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Previously: >>92591141

>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:
https://mtgcommander.net/

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>CARD SEARCH
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>how to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/

>TQ/prompt:
How has your latest commander been treating you?
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Gay Bolas
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>92591240
So he's treating you right? Good to hear anon.
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>TQ
I built The Reality Chip with a vehicle focus.
Probably my 2nd favorite deck right now behind Hazoret the Fervent.
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>>92591276
I genuinely forget this thing is a creature. Why would you ever let it BE a creature.
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>dragon storm
so bolas is 100% coming back
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>>92591304
I mean we're returning to Tarkir. Bolas might get referenced. I dunno if they'll bring him back before they bring the Eldrazi back. I feel like, given how much set-up the Fomori and Jace/Vraska have had as the antagonists, I don't think they'll throw any more major ones in the mix.
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>>92591304
Janny has been deleting gay Bolas posts intermittently along with posts that shit on Loot and the leak of Jace's (biological) kid. Gay Bolas poster won.
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I need to cut one card and i cant decide which out of these 2 I should drop anons- Simic Charm or Voidslime? They both have their uses, but i need some outside opinions on this
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>>92591357
I guess thats one way to look at it
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>>92591372
how about cutting a land instead? you already got enough of them
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>>92591292
You're right, you never would. I think the reality chip is supposed to be sentient which is why they made it a creature. Its also what lets it be a commander.
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>>92591372
Drop them both and add a land. You could always use more.
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>>92591372
>>92591392
Just keep them both and play with a 101 card deck. No one's gonna know.
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>>92591392>>92591417>>92591421
Buncha mother fuckers in the thread right now I swear, im at 34 lands with 8 ramp cards, we all know dropping a land below 34 is usually a bad idea
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>>92591432
>34+8 ramp
you start at 37 lands and 10 ramp. what ebin bombs did you sleeve up to cut this deep?
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>>92591454
yo mum
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some of you guys are alright.
dont come to slightly modified precon night this thursday. I'm preparing war crimes.
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>>92591454
the vast majority of good decks don't run over 35 lands
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>>92591454
Seems a bit much for both, I never have a issue with not having enough land, just wanted thoughts on what to cut but I guess that aent happening
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>>92591479
>good decks
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>Knows there a ton of commanders for obscure tribes
>"Well I like ____" Let's see what that commander is
>Character's vibe breaks the theme (all characters from 1920s land, cowboy land, cross overs, intolerable non-White characters,) or is just stupid/ugly like most of the more recent art is
>Don't want to make a deck for that tribe anymore

Keeps happening.
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>>92591473
price of progress is fucking based. only card that is largely approved by the softspots that punishes lands. don't forget to pack in a way to recur the spell
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>>92591479
Yeah because "good decks" shove in expensive fast mana that a normal player can't afford.
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>>92591489
yes, good decks
or are you one of those "people" who builds do nothing decks and gets mad when the game ends before turn 12?
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>>92591537
unironically if you can't afford a $2000 MINIMUM for your mana base you shouldn't be playing magic
like, let's just cut the crap right here ok? magic is a luxury game the average person may be poor as dirt but if you're still playing magic in 2024 you most certainly are not
so yes, most players, most paying customers CAN afford that fast mana. Let's just stop pretending the average player is some broke college kid. It hasn't been that way for years.
The actual average players is in their 30s and upper middle class
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>>92591537
Even with the fast mana it's a very aggressive curve. It's usually <40 mana sources total counting ramp.
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>>92591497
We're done, when I say we're done
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>>92591357
What does gay Bolas even mean?
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>>92591571
can't afford and aren't willing to spend are different things, anon.
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>>92591571
Tryin too hard anon
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>>92591592
What do you think?
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>>92591571
winning with worse cards than your opponent is the real goal of this game so the cheaper the better, objectively. also middleclass hasn't been a thing since the college years either, that's why you propose a "upper" in between cope class
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>>92591592
It means Nicol Bolas is a heterosexual and sexually dominant individual who tops females.
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>>92591571
based, the average mid tier deck is like 3k now the everyone is poor meme had to end sometime
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>>92591537
>>92591571

Yes. That is why they stopped selling $50 precons decades ago. Because the player base consists mostly of people that will spend 100 times that per deck.

But really, why not just get proxies? The actual magic cards are financial products not game pieces to have fun with.
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>>92591601
The last few times I have been to this thread, there's always a post "gay Bolas". Does it reference anything or is it just random shitposting by some low iq person?
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>>92591473
You need a volcano hellion + phyrexian vindicator you can straight up nuke somebody.
Works with brash taunter and stuffy doll too.
If you add a guilty conscience you can nuke the whole table with 1 ping of damage from something like fanatical firebrand or grapeshot.
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>>92591592
>>92591627
Some parts of Ral's backstory imply that it was Bolas who cucked him (reminder, Ral is gay), which would make it the only time in the story Bolas canonically had sex.
However in reality WotC likely already forgot this detail and it will never be brought up again like all of the backstory they gave Bolas himself.
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>>92587947
See, this doesn't work when someone in your pod builds decks to consistently win t4-6 but rates himself a 6 or "low 7"
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>>92591646
Ah, that makes sense.
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>>92591628
>2 card yawn combo
couldn't have missed the point harder. this doesn't punish non-basics
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>Naya dragons
Is she fun? For casual play with poorfag dragons.
Of the three other Naya legendary dragons, one is just too mana heavy, the other two have meme abilities.
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>>92591628
>volcano hellion + phyrexian vindicator you can straight up nuke somebody.
I suggest re-reading the cards
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>>92591662
Just ask to see their deck and rate it yourself, explain how you came to that conclusion. Maybe they have some fast mana or hyper optimized cards they dont consider that good.
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>>92591662
I break the chart by playing hard stax control so nobody is able to access any mana before 10 turns while I jerk myself off recycling land and artifact destruction chipping people to death with a single 2/4.
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>>92591678
I thought the point was war crimes

>>92591683
My bad. It works with brash taunter and stuffy doll anyway. The guilty conscience combo also works.
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The same way you can't tell others your SMV (sexual market value) is the same way you can't tell others your EDH deck's power level. This is something your pod decides for you.
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>>92591681
>gives ward and maybe one (1) token a turn
it's alright i guess
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>>92591708
Lmao no.
I get my decks checked by the playEDH discord all the time. They'll tell you if your deck is low, mid, or high power.
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>>92591684
>>92591684
He won't listen to reason because "everyone will target me no matter what I play!"
It gets annoying watching him complain about others' turns then using all the expensive tutors to grab the same combos
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>>92591704
only war crime in this game is getting away with too many non-basics uncontested and to them the opposing of it
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>>92591727
Sounds like he's just a bitch. Sorry anon.
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shit that infuriates you? for me, its this one guy who has a hyper tuned, 3k cedh deck that he almost exclusively plays against out playgroup that is more casual, with most decks being around 2-3 hundred. he could win almost every game he plays, but he just holds back and sometimes lets people win so they don't get so upset that they aren't always losing. but if there are decks at the table he doesn't like he will just end the game every time on T3 or T4. it's very patronizing to be "allowed" to win, and feels extra shitty when he becomes the arbiter of what decks are allowed to be played at the table. no one else is willing to put up the cash to make something that will compete, nor are the rest of us super competitive for kitchen table magic, nor do we want to yuck his yum too bad because we are all a group of friends beyond magic.
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>>92591454
>10 ramp
I will never do this outside green.
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She's cute, is she fun to play, I've kinda wanted to build a spellslinger deck
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>>92591777
proxy a deck and kick his ass
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>>92591724
How many upvotes do you need to be able to join the discord and does the interview require turning on your camera because looking at myself gives me dysphoria
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>>92591777
>complains about 3k deck
>then complains about a 200 dollar deck
you're retarded and it sounds like you're asshurt he's skilled enough at the game to keep the monkies in check
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>>92591811
>then complains about a 200 dollar deck
but i didn't complain about that? i said that is the average cost across the whole group besides him. learn to read before calling others monkies, monkey.
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>>92591571
This is genuinely boring bait because it breaks no new ground and is just a regurgitating the usual bait
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>>92591780
doesn't matter if ur not a drawlet
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>>92591803
She looks like a darker skin version of Satele Shan from SWTOR
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>tq
I took apart my kaalia deck for her
She doesn't do much, but atleast I can actually play angels instead of being archenemy turn 1
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>>92591803
A lot of work for little payoff.
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>>92591870
You just wanted an anime commander.
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>>92591870
you could've used tariel instead
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>>92591209
>TQ
I got to hive mind into pic related. The new obeka is a problem since she'll run away with the game though.
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>>92591915
the artwork isnt even good. could be ai slop as soulless as it is.
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>>92591915
I tried to make kaalia pure angels but still got targeted no matter what, so I was debating between Gisella or one of the Aurelias
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>>92591870
Im genuinely mad they chose the worst Aurelia to give the anime treatment.
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>>92591928
>epic
Lmao now I want undying flames
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>>92591304
Not only Bolas but the Eldrazi and Slivers and Phyrexians and every other bad guy who was defeated because MTG uses wrestling logic
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>>92591944
Angel tribal is pretty much solved since they did the secret lair angel commander deck.
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>>92591903
She still sounds fun, and she looks nice
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>>92591209
Unrelated, how does Eriette work with removal? Am I correct in understanding that her effect continues even if she's removed?
I.e. if I cast Eldrazi Conscription on someone's commander, take control of them, and they later kill Eriette, do they get their commander back?
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>>92591965
>Angel tribal is pretty much solved since they did the secret lair angel commander deck.
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>>92592027
Idk what you want me to say. Its the most reddit tribe at this point.
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>>92592005
once the aura is attached the effect stays.
removing eriette in response to you casting eldrazi conscription makes you look like an idiot because you've just buffed your opponents creature.
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>>92592042
>Its the most reddit tribe at this point.

That would be cats and dogs.
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>>92591841
or maybe it's not bait, maybe it's a true statement and in your ego you've imagined its bait because if you acknowledge it as fact that would mean your world view is wrong and all the hours you've spent crying about wotc's price hikes were for nothing!
and God knows you could never admit that
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There needs to be more native american representation in Magic. Im not talking about the mayan/aztec analogues in Ixalan. Im talking about real native americans like the Chinook, Sioux, and Navajo.

They had the perfect chance to do it in OTJ. Instead we got cactus people.
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>>92592042
im judging you for thinking the tribe is "solved" and that it happened when they released a secret lair deck. you're so fucking stupid it is insane.
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>>92591646
Even then, that moreso implies Bolas only sees sex as a tool and has no real attraction to anybody at all.
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32 lands plus 8-12 rocks/dorks/temp mana is enough in anything that isn't a landfall deck and getting mana screwed is a sign of poor draw in a deck, not too few mana sources
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>>92591209
>french artist draws her cute
>american artist gives her a manjaw
card art also reads like shit at size, what a massive downgrade
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>>92592123
the atiin from OTJ are based on the navajo and they apparently had navajo consultants to help develop them.
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>>92592143
>not posting the patrician artwork
shaking my head
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>>92591777
once you realise the hollow victory of pubstomping never feels as good as winning with bad cards, you will be freed
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>>92592153
And then they had, like, twelve of them in the set. Wonder if they're setting up for an eventual visit to the Atiin plane at some point. Would probably need another 'hook' because "Native American plane" is not a big draw in and of itself.
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>>92592127
Youre just pissy because angels are boring and solved. Like elves.
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>>92591928
isn't the best way to run this to copy it a bunch when you first cast it so you get like 3 epic triggers each turn?
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>>92592168
>angels are solved like elves
do you ever get tried of dribbling spit all over your chin and shirt?
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>>92592168
Does that mean theft decks are forever solved because of the gonti precon?
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>>92591777
he sounds based
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>>92592185
that anon is propably the same one who thinks a commander with a landfall trigger should only be built around landfall
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>>92592159
i am not the one who needs to realize that, though. it is the guy pubstomping. and he hasn't, when he gets tired of pubstomping with one cedh deck he switched commanders and calls it a new deck and is entertained by the novelty, even though the list is 90% the last list he pubstomped with.
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>>92592206
the mid power pill is hard to swallow.
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>>92592153
Sure, but theyre depicted post-westernization. Wearing cowboy shit.
I want stuff before that.
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>>92592206
what I mean is that you shouldn't really care if someone is bringing nukes to a slapfight. and once you just so happen to win with a slap, you can never let them live it down
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>>92592168
Anon elves quite literally just got unsolved
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>>92592237
They’re actually depicted barely at all since even in more modern, Cowboyish garb you can pretty easily tell a Navajo is a Navajo. I think wizards did that classic wizards move where, in an attempt to be not racist, they manage to be extra racist by ignoring most of a culture and reducing it to just a silly hat.
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>>92592116
i suggest you get better bait. if you have to spend time convincing me it isn't bait, then it's bad bait
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>>92592185
>ad hominem
Just internet things

>>92592190
No, the gonti precon sucks.
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>>92592276
you made the claim that angels is solved like elves. back up that claim. preferably while keeping the spit blast radius to a minimum.
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>>92592273
your delusions don't make it bait
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>>92592290
Sure. Angel tribal that isnt giada, font of hope or Kaalia of the vast suck.
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>>92592237
Judging by the art showing an Atiin entering the plane for, presumably, the first time, they might actually be the originators of that aesthetic on Thunder Junction, at least in part.
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>>92592316
You got him on the hook anon! Keep reeling him in!
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>>92592323
kaalia has been around more than a decade, and giada didn't come out with the secret lair precon. what did the secret lair precon do that "solved angels?" also, what does a "solved angels deck" look like?
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>>92592346
take your meds
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Is yuriko the best budget option for a cedh commander
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>>92591617
people who've used the same $50 slightly modified precon for 8 years get super angry whenever you point out that they aren't the target audience anymore
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>>92592403
No one building a deck is the target audience. The target audience is collectors and secondary market guys like Rudy
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>>92592371
My bad. Youre right anon. It was before the precon that they were solved.
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>>92592440
what does a "solved" angel deck look like?
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>commiting crimes
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>>92592452
It looks like your average kaalia and giada angel tribal deck lists
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>>92592438
>No one building a deck is the target audience
they are but the poorfags have been excised from the deckbuilder caste and consigned to theorycrafters
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>>92592463
Thats a cool card
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>>92592479
printer go brrrr
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>>92592479
This is why people proxy decks
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>>92592463
I like this card
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>>92592403
I really like making a budget version of a deck to see if I enjoy it then upgrading it slowly
I will not buy reserved list scams though
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What's your lowest deck count commander?
My lowest is Soraya, 342 decks (banding is based and you can't convince me otherwise)
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>>92591479
>good decks
The only deck that is a good deck is the deck that you have fun with
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>>92592469
i said to answer while keeping the spit blast radius to a minimum, anon. you aren't doing that!
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>>92592548
winning is fun
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>>92591586
>mistveil plains
I missed this card. Thanks anon
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>>92592556
winning *with bad cards* is fun
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>>92591479
Cedh decks run like 28 lands and all of the fast mana and 0 cost spells
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>>92591777
Literally talk to him like a normal person. If he is your friend, he'll tone it down.
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>>92592549
Listen anon, you may not think it be like it is, but it do. No one is stopping you from playing sub optimal angel tribal.
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>>92592323
Sephara decks are also out there.
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>>92592528
I have 15 mono white decks, so I also have Soraya, but pic related only has 18 decks and my Crovax has 150 decks.
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>>92592556
Winning is the cherry on top, but most of the cake is just having fun with your friends... You DO have friends, don't you anon?
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>>92592528
I only have 4 permanent decks
>Mondrak - 2047
>Alandra - 1539
>Mono B Ashnod - 1272
>Toggo + Kodama - 1082
Inverse correlation between popularity and power
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>>92592591
every angel list is suboptimal. it is not a "solved" deck, because the pieces don't exist for it to be solved yet. pretending it is anywhere near the level of elves is hilariously retarded.
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>>92592754
Okay anon, whatever you say.
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>>92592688
if you lose on purpose for friends then you are patronizing them, it is not the cherry on top. That's the fucking point that's why the game has a winner and a loser
I play chess with my friends too but I still make the optimal moves because to sit there and go
>well I'll just move my pawn at random since winning is just the cherry
is fucking INSANELY retarded
why is commander the only thing in existence where actually trying to win the game is seen as a bad thing? no other game or format is like this
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>>92592774
>why is commander the only thing in existence where actually trying to win the game is seen as a bad thing? no other game or format is like this
edh players are uniquely autistic and entitled they truly believe locking people into 4 hour matches that only end when they say so is how games should be played
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>>92592042
That would be cats, dogs, and squirrels easily.
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>>92592774
I went to a locals like that and never went back, people played shit like sissay and ur dragon with proxied dual lands and threw a fit when anyone tried to do something to win
I'm glad I have a group that actually tries to win
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>>92591357
Really? I haven't been around for a bit but they're really hitting Gay Bolas and those other posts?
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>>92592528
Adric/10th Doctor. 14 (#3264)
And I was basically the first deck there.
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>>92592143
Which is supposed to be which?
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>>92592816
The Gay Bolas stuff being hit is because it's spam posted every thread. I've never seen the other things being hit. I see decent amounts of Loot hate and the half-human/half-gorgon from product testing being posted (we don't technically know if she's meant to be Jace and Vraska's kid but given the blue cloak it's probably indicative).
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>>92592548
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>>92591304
Dang. I was kind of hoping Bloomburrow was going to stick to the Redwall exclusive animal line up.
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>>92592674
Do you just run her by herself? No idea why you wouldn't include a Doctor unless you specifically want to be mono color.
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>>92592528
here is the list in order of most popular to least
>ur dragon - 23512
>jodah the unifier - 16959
>muldrotha - 14721
>teysa karlov - 13074
>belakor - 8869
>magus lucea kane - 8635
>feather the redeemed -8280
>varina 6388
>alesha 5902
>marwyn - 5454
>karador - 5071
>reaper king - 5059
>tinybones, trinket thief - 5003
>emmara soul of the accord - 3344
>baral - 3178
>sram - 1794
>yenna 1762
>vadrok 1474
>cecily/elmar - 714
>akiri/reyhan - 133
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>>92592838
Anon...
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>>92592839
Ah, got you. That would make sense. I had seen it start, but when I left for a bit it had slowed down to just the one post every thread. Didn't know if started back up again.
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>>92592528
I actually assumed she would be higher
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>>92592528
Silvos, Rogue Elemental at 103 decks.
He's green unga bunga at its most pure.
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>>92592769
you literally do not understand what "solved" means.
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>>92591350
>I mean we're returning to Tarkir.
says dragonstorm "in bloomburrow" right fuckin there my dude
unless the tarkir plot is all the dragons leaving tarkir to live on other planes I highly doubt it has anything to actually do with tarkir which leads us back to the only relevant dragon characters outside that plane which there are 2
ugin and bolas
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>>92592774
with chess you can't play all pawns
I can play jank and still try to win. makes it all the more sweeter
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>>92592923
t. the guy who acts really smug about his deck after winning 1/50 games
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>>92592870
It might be there's Loot hate getting deleted and I've just not been present but who knows.
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>>92592934
I highly doubt mods are banning people who say Loot sucks.
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>>92592917
Return to Tarkir is literally the last set of the Dragonstorm arc (it's Bloomburrow, Duskmourn, Death Race, Return to Tarkir), and judging by the Bloomburrow box the Dragonstorm arc may be "oh god oh fuck Tarkir dragons are showing up literally everywhere" because that looks VERY Kolaghan-esque.
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fun deck that won't trigger people?
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>>92592975
Winning triggers people. Just play what you think is fun.
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>>92592954
Why are Tarkir dragons massive threats? They were moderate antagonists on a single plane. Upgrading them to multiversal threat is retarded. Why would they even want to leave a place where they're effectively the gods of society?
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>>92592856
I think Dr who and the doctors are lame as fuck. Jo Grant is kind of cute, but cycling on a motorcycle is a fucking cool pun. I love playing mono white, and don't want to ruin the pun by attaching a gay doctor to her.
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pulled a textured foil leyline binding and I guess I have to sell it because I'm never putting it into a deck
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>>92592975
Elesh Norn, Mom
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>>92592975
Nothing. Even group hug triggers people.
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>>92592774
The only thing I can think of is that people want to avoid the feelsbad moment of knocking a player out early and then proceeding into an hours-long game where they have to sit and watch; something which is extremely avoidable when decks have clear avenues of winning and not just relying entirely on combat and stalling out when there are no good attacks or constant boardwipes.
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>>92592954
the creature you see on the box is a night owl, the night owls are infused with black mana and are the bloomburrow antagonists. Doesn't feel very kologhan or tarkir beyond having 4 wings. However, gifting people with power as a useful pawn?
sounds like another dragon with black mana I know. One who was present on tarkir and beyond
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>>92592983
based
I run a Peri Brown deck and the edhrec page is literally just my deck list
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>>92592774
>why is commander the only thing in existence where actually trying to win the game is seen as a bad thing?
I see you have never played dead by daylight
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>>92592975
Pure copycat/clone deck.
No one would complain about their own cards, right...?
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>>92592981
it's just edhg coping that bolas is returning as the next antagonist
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>>92592986
Kek
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>>92592981
In and of themselves they're not major threats, but sheer quantity and them basically spawning out of control could cause them to be a 'problem'. And like 70% chance it mostly just ends up being fixed by the end of things but it's also used to help Jace and Vraska convince people that a Multiverse that's so interconnected is bad actually.
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>>92592774
>if you lose on purpose for friends then you are patronizing them
Anon...
Think about this, how about having a deck to be at a level where your friends and you can all have fun? Then, you wouldn't be patronizing them and it wouldn't be up to you to DECIDE to give them the win or not.
Chess and EDH are NOT the same. EDH is supposed to be a party board game. It's like everyone sits down for a game of Uno, but you stack your hand full of draw 4s.
If you want to play the game like chess, then play cEDH and don't lie to your friends about your deck.
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>>92593031
no anon, people play chess in the park casually and they still try to win
you are a child who is complaining about what you perceive as high power decks. Grow up and if the sting of losing is too much then see a psychiatrist instead of demanding everyone else sink to your level
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>>92592975
Look for people that won't get triggered like these anons. I lose all the time, but I don't get triggered. In fact, I get angry at myself for misplays a lot more than "getting triggered" at someone's win.
Just be respectful, and make sure y'all have a little power level discussion.
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>>92593024
If they're threats then that is a statement they are the strongest dragons in the multiversal. Oddly not reflected on any of their cards.
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>>92592975
The only time I get triggered is when someone is basically throwing the game to attack me for no real reason. It's basically ruining the game for everyone else so as to be a dick as a form of passive aggressiveness.
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>>92593064
>Grow up
>Can't understand having fun without winning games
Sounds to me like you are the petulant child. I don't know how you can't understand that EDH is a fundamentally different game to chess even when the end goal is a win. It's even a different game to the "competitive" mtg formats.
I don't demand that people "sink" to my level either. I just play with people who want to have fun. If you want to pubstomp, then you do you, and i will not be sitting at your table. Fair?
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>>92593122
>Pubstomping is the same thing as trying to actually make the game end
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Is the nostril thing in Eriette real or edited in?
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>>92593122
Fuck off. If you're not trying to win then you're doing a disservice to everyone at the table. It's super fucking rude. You're damn right you wont be sitting at my table.
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>>92593105
>Oddly not reflected on any of their cards.
>cards must reflect lore power levels
15 flying squirrels against a world ending, eldritch horror.
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>>92593145
t. man who cries when games go longer than 30 minutes
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>>92593122
>oh no I won't sit at the table and force you to endure hours upon hours of my do nothing meme deck
oh noooo...
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>>92593117
I don't even get triggered by that desu. They obviously have a reason. Whether you wronged them in some way, or someone got in their head before I did. EDH is a very social game. If someone is attacking you like that, it might be that someone convinced them to do so. In that case, I'll take the L because the table talk is very important in deflecting attacks and threats with just words rather than cards/mana/other in game resources. Being able to bend people to your will, convincing them that it is to their best interest, in EDH is important to winning.
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>>92593151
Cool assumption.
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>>92593136
>implying op is edited
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>>92593165
Too many people forget that shit-talking and choosing when not to shit-talk are important skills. Sportsball players know this.
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>>92593031
If everyone is trying to win then the game will make sense and has the potential to be fun. The difference between Chess or Uno and EDH is that the latter has to be designed to be fun by its participants. The casual party game mentality ideally applies to building your deck whereas piloting it is playing to win.
I will admit there are exceptions though, such as when a hyper greedy risk-taking playstyle would statistically result in winning more games but also lead to more blowouts where you aren't participating. Keeping more reasonable, consistent hands and not over-politicking wouldn't be in line with "playing to win" but it would make things more fun and dynamic without qualifying as sandbagging.
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>>92593145
You genuinely should not be playing EDH
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>>92593165
That's cool but I will stop playing with you. Leave shit in the last game. Trying to drag shit into other games is being a cunt and if you have that much issue with a player, confront them.
Attacking people because of non-game reasons is faggy and so are you.
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>>92593145
You're the kind of dude that tackles when playing laser tag
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>>92593105
"Nigh-endless amounts of dragons stirring up shit on planes they should not be showing up on" is still an issue, even if they're defeatable dragons.
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>>92593145
I think we are talking over each other. Everyone should be trying to win. That's the objective of the game, as I stated. But again, stacking your hand full of draw 4s in Uno is very different from just playing the game.
Remember, the conversation started when anon said that there are such things as GOOD DECKS and I responded that if you are having fun, then that deck is good.
To anon, regardless of the means, winning is the only thing that matters and the only way to make the game fun. I don't agree with his opinion because >>92593132
To answer you, pubstomping is how you win most easily.
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>you can't have fun in a game unless you WIN
Do autists really?
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>>92593145
This the type of nigga who rule sharks and refuses to let you take back some land drop a nano second after you placed it.
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>>92593230
A very large amount of people think this way. Probably the majority
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>>92592979
I don't think that's necessarely true. My friend has a Emmara, soul of the accord deck that pisses me off because every single game he sets up some bullshit engine where he is untapping her each upkeep to make more soldiers and gain life and draw cards to the point where every time he plays that deck i have to spend the entire game trying to stop him. As a result, he never wins with that deck, but it always pisses me off
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>>92593230
>>92593245
I think most people have fun as long as they have a real impact on the game and feel like they could have won if things had gone slightly different.
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>>92593207
Well, for table "politics" the only one you have to blame is yourself. If you fail and declare yourself the biggest enemy at the table in everyone's mind, you're done, and that's a YOU problem.
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>>92593279
I think so as well. I don't think people don't have fun if they don't win, it's just hyper artists like this anon that think that way.
I've seen people get blown the fuck out and still talk about how they were fucked. It's especially cool to see the underdog pull some crazy shit off after you've and the other guy have been killed and it's a 1v1.
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>>92592933
you are just a sore loser
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>>92592999
Good thought. Except. It's not the night owl, Pic is.
That 4 wing eagle thing is something else.

Looks pretty Kologhan, except I hope the first anon is wrong cause I hated tarkir.
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>>92593279
Pretty much this. All I care is that I feel like I did something. It's not too fun to be unable to do shit while everyone ignores you.
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>Friend is at 4 HP, has a board set up for victory his next turn and a wall of flying blockers making it impossible to attack him
>My board consists of an OG Sheoldred with 5 +1+1 counters and a bunch of mana
>Cast From the Catacombs for its escape cost reviving a Seasoned Dungeoneer, which progresses the Undercity, i add +1+! counters to it
>Cast From the Catacombs again targetting my friend's Mirror Entity
>Activate Mirror Entity for X=0 since i don't have any mana, making my creatures 0/0s with all creature types until end of turn
>Attack friend with Sheoldred which is now a warrior and unblockable thanks to Seasoned Dungeoneer
>Friend removes sheoldred and wins
I mean it was still a super sick line
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>>92593204
>dont play the game if you're trying to win
Genuinely, if thats your actual opinion i dont think you should be playing EDH. You should be playing role-playing games like D&D, Pathfinder, GURPS, etc.

>>92593221
>wanting to win the game means im violent or extreme
I just dont like it when people intentionally waste everybody's time.

>>92593231
You the type of nigga to make wild assumptions about people with no evidence because you dont like what they said
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>>92593338
That is a pretty sick line
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>>92593344
>STOP ASSUMING
Stop being a stereotype lmao
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>>92593338
You can walk away from that with a moral victory at least.
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>>92593377
>stop being something you already aren't
Ok. Easy enough.
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>>92593322
I mean we ARE going back to Tarkir, regardless. That IS a thing.
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>>92593344
not everyone wants to play thoracle
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>>92593396
Yeah, makes me sad. I can only hope it's just really down played and not that important over all. But with a title like "Dragonstorm" that's probably wishful thinking.
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>>92593400
You dont have to have a cedh deck or include cedh cancer. But you do have to try to win with whatever deck you bring.
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>>92593424
even if I play bad cards I'm eventually going to win. nobody in their right mind would actually play a deck that actively CANNOT win. like even with natural mill or something
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>>92593344
Autist anon...
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>won two games with new zurgo helmsmasher build
rogue's passage with two combat turns is one hell of a drug
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If you play interaction your getting kicked out
If you attack me your getting kicked out
If you play more then 1 card a turn your getting kicked out
The point of commander is to look at my cards, no one is allowed to win, because if someone does that means someone else loses :( and that's not fair
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>>92593434
This is the correct idea
You can play a dogshit meme deck that only was built as a gimmick, but you should still try to win with it
I'm just assuming the people that actually cry about a deck winning are people who don't play
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>>92593447
Does anyone have that old meme where it shows the hobbit smoking a pipe and talks about EDH being more of a story or D&D game?
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>>92592916
nice.
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>>92593474
I think people are just being hyperbole as usual where there is nothing between
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>everyone has 1 talisman or the equivalent on turn 3, I am last
>Everyone has a creature around 2/2
>lynde gets countered by faggot faerie by one player
>grim guardian gets pathed by the second player
>third player swings at me for 10 with a red creature that gets +1/+1 for each spell cast 'because I'm open'

Which of the three players deserves to be punched in the mouth?
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>>92593485
>pathing grim guardian
Why?
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Give me a combat deck that isn't just turning everything sideways and hoping you have more protection than they have wipes
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>>92593434
Thats not true anon, a person could have a win con and decide not to play it because theyre being patronizing or they feel like they've won too much already. Like if theyre not playing to win then those people need to fuck off.
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>>92593404
It's the final set of the next 4-set arc, though not the 'finale set' overall. It's comparable to OTJ, actually. Seems the current set-up is 3 4-set arcs that form a grander overall arc. We know every set in that grander arc (at least broadly) except the last one, where all we know is that it's a finale set.
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>>92593439
>defending your position makes you an autist
Breh. If you want me to stop posting just say so.
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>>92593505
those people must be in the minority and not an actual problem. there are way bigger groups of stupid that need addressing
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>>92593497
I achieved that which lies beyond based when I floated 10 mana as gonti, cast a stolen teferi then a stolen farewell the game before.
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>warn someone il kill their commander if they swing at me
>They swing at me and I swords their commander
>"Wtf anon you were the only one open so I had to attack you"
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>>92593535
Is the new gonti fun? I really love theft decks, I wish Tasha wasnt a Planeswalker but she's still one of my favorite decks to play
>Elf player has a massive fucking board and hapatra player has a million snakes but there both tapped out
>Mill the Judith player and see rakdos charm
>The look of horror from the table when I steal it and cast it
>Instantly kill both
>Judith player laughs and on his turn he kills me with prisoners dilemma
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>>92592042
>>92592093
>>92592795
All tribes are R*ddit as fuck aside from the ones I play
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>>92593653
This
>Your deck reddit
>My deck based
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>>92593570
>people getting mad at you for performing pvp actions in a pvp game
I wish mtg players didn't attract so many retards. I mean I'm one of them, but I wish there werent so many others.
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>>92592042
This but Doctor Tribal
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>>92593653
>>92593661
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>>92592528
Tahngarth with 35 decks. It's pretty fun to play considering that it's just a vigilant 4/4 that taps to fight.
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>>92593675
I just don't know what he was expecting, he could've just not attacked, I straight up told him I was gonna do it
He later used removal on my commander and he got upset when I didn't really care that he did
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the only based tribes are the ones that wotc has abolished
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>>92592528
229 decks
pretty dog shit but fun at times
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I'm new to this game.
Do you think this deck is good? What should I change
archidekt /decks/7431575/schwarz
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my tribal decks are scarecrows, treefolk, and insects. how based am i?
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Can you put multicolor lands in mono-color deck?
Like can i put Boros Guildgate in mon-white?
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>>92593608
he certainly looks like fun
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>>92593733
Thats a huge sideboard anon.
I'd probably add in more token gen like Bitter blossom
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>>92593790
>scafecrows
Meh
>insects
Meh
>treefolk
Fucking based.

>>92593805
Yes, but theyll only tap for colorless mana.
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>>92593805
No.
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>>92593830
Wrong
>>92593832
Correct
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>>92593830
How is it possible for someone to be this clueless about colour identity rules in [current year]
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>>92593862
I dont know anon. I've come to the conclusion that I'm genuinely a low IQ person.
At this point I go through every day and just try my best.
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>>92593830
>>92593832
>>92593840
Thanks!
I wanted to use the dual artifact lands from MH2 in my Chiss-Goria deck but that's not happening it seems.
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>>92593608
Gonti is brutal, I split my Tasha deck into an umbris deck, and I made a don andres steal deck/outlaw

https://archidekt.com/decks/7342511/don_n_obeka_stealforce
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>>92592528
>Defining how much you like your own deck based off of what other decks are popular.
gross.
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>>92593826
I put on the side and maybe board all the cards I thought about putting in, they won't be in the finished deck
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>>92593970
Why?
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>>92592528
Probably her. At about 2550. I like building up and upgrading precons so a lot of those have higher numbers.
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>>92592954
Man I hope this set ends up cool.
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>>92594068
11 lands
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>>92594068
No my son, you need to add 88 cards and build two decks with the same commander.
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>>92592528
177 decks.
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>>92594132
ebindeth :DD
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>>92594068
cut lands until you have 34 in your deck.
Perfect amount of lands.
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>>92593653
I'm really tired of anthem stacking and door of destinies "tribal" decks as opposed to building around themes and mechanics that tribe tends to favor. Roaming Throne is not a tribal card.
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>>92592528
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>>92594159
Amalia has become my favorite deck for tribal, focusing on life gain while still doing pure vampires is really fun, there's only a couple of anthems built into my vampires but the entire deck is 100% only vampires
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>>92594159
I play time lord tribal. What do time lord mechanics favor?
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>>92592981
Dragons are always a bit threatening. Dragons that don’t take any time to breed and mature, but just pop full-grown out of weather patterns? That’s a problem, even if it’s not a world-ending one.
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>>92592528
This guy or Eron the Relentless at 30-something I think
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>>92594262
Yeah I'm not really buying that.
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>play pic rel as general
>never gets insta-removed as there are bigger fish in the board
>opponent declares an attack with their general towards someone other than me
>it's unblocked
>cast a downhill charge on their general
>give their general a double strike with shu yun
>indirectly remove one player
>proceed to win the game since biggest threat has been dealt with one blow
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>>92591209
I really like Yu(wnba)ma(n)
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>>92594267
It's very unclear how problematic Tarkir dragons are to people at large. The Khans of old couldn't handle them, at least, though that was mostly owed to their endless nature and the overwhelmingness of the Dragonlords moreso than the dragons themselves being particularly powerful. It's not a Multiverse-ending threat, but it's still an ISSUE. Especially when they show up on planes clearly unprepared for them.
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>>92592528
Surprisingly it's a partner combo.
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>>92594259
for the most part, casting from somewhere other than your hand. not all of them, sure. but most.
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>>92594275
The (ywnba)Mandalorian
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>>92594241
I know she's probably gay but I'd love to fuck her
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Before i order a bunch of cards is she a fun commander?
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>>92594295
i like scarlett better.
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>>92594252
Nice, that's exactly how tribes should be approached. Real tired of everyone dismissing non-Edgar vampire commanders for not "caring about the tribe" or missing colors when there's so many other cool options.
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>>92594289
Could also say historic, since a lot of them came from a historic deck. Also every single time lord is legendary, so they edge toward a legendary/historic theme
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>>92594313
the other thing i am tired of is people saying "this is my tribal deck" and it is 90% changelings.
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>>92594267
>An invasive predator with a centuries-long lifespan and an absolutely explosive reproductive rate might cause some problems
>”Yeah I'm not really buying that.”
Morons like you are how we end up with DBZ-style constant escalation where every threat has to be more cataclysmically world-ending than the last. Tell me, do you enjoy Blizzard’s storytelling?
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>>92594324
It's way better to branch out into something tangentially related to the tribe, ie. a bat for vampires or an oyster for crabs, than settle for changelings just to tick a stupid box.
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>>92594317
i think more care about casting from outside of hand. that was the theme of the temur deck, the jeskai deck was about suspend (casts from exile), and the bant/historic deck still had cascade and casting historic shit from top of library/grave. even rassilon, from the villains deck, cares about casting spells from exile.
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>>92592774
The secret to enjoying mtg and edh is abandoning the mtg community, bunch of söifaggots, retards, autists, fatsos. I recently bought a house so I now have a place to play whenever I want with selected people. It changed everything, I only go to the LGS to scout for potential invitees who fit my group. I've never enjoyed mtg more.
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thoughts on this combo I pulled off?
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>>92594275
Yeah literal tranny commanders make for real fun decks. Maybe they do it on purpose
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>>92594379
That's exactly what I've done too. With both mtg and warhammer. Incredibly high quality fun times with people you like and who like you. Then afterwards we all pile on the couches in the living room and watch shitty movies together
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>>92594408
Looks like a good lock, only vulnerable to whatever boardstate your opponents already had out. Did you win?
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>>92594313
I'm hyper autistic when it comes to stuff like that, I kept getting told to put in other really good life gain cards, but they weren't vampires so I refused to put them in, amalia is my favorite deck to play right I played that shit 5 times last Friday when I added some more upgrades to it
I still wanna build mardu vampires with bride Olivia and groom Edgar as paired commanders but there's other stuff I need to build first
Tribal has always been my favorite thing in any card game I usually refuse to put in non archetype stuff
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I have another question on Clara interacting with the 14th Doctor. Could I do the following?

>14 ETBs
>I choose a doctor with another ETB effect
>then after that, I choose another doctor off Clara doubling 14's ETB
Could I do this to grab an ETB from one doctor then use the second ETB trigger from Clara to then swap to another, so I can just get that quick ETB benefit?
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>>92594408
>>92594438
Technically, they’ll be able to cast instants during your upkeep and respond to the Memory Vessel activation, so it has a reasonable degree of vulnerability.
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>>92594444
14th does not have ETBs
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>>92594444
14 has a cast trigger, that is the mill ability. he has no inherent etb, the copy ability is AS it enters, not once it enters. you can only choose one type of doctor in your grave to become a clone of, and you get two etbs of whatever that doctors etb is.
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>>92592400
Probably Magda.
>>92592570
>28
Most run even less than that.
Only one of my cEDH decks runs around that amount.
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Is it true that EDH players are all 300 lb black queer gorillas?
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>>92594443
Mine has a flying lifelink saboteur theme with Vish Kal at the helm, and Amalia's in there now as like a miniboss. I'm generally pretty autistic about staying on theme too but I sometimes make concessions for explicit commander synergies like Horobi.
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>>92594498
What do you play to get away with 28 lands?
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what were they thinking with skullclamp? ridiculous card
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what were they thinking with [card made before commander]? ridiculous card [for commander]
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>>92594632
>what were they thinking with sol ring? ridiculous card
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>>92594615
They were thinking "this equipment is pretty good, let's reduce the creature's toughness as a downside" and then whoops.
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>>92594615
>>92594632
Skullclamp was retardedly overpowered the moment it was printed. What they were thinking was "this +1/+0 equipment is too good, it needs a drawback" and they made it better by accident.
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>>92594615
https://web.archive.org/web/20220815003646/https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/skullclamp-we-hardly-knew-ye-2004-06-04
I miss when they were this open and honest about things.
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>>92594132
What does the deck do?
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>>92594707
Lose
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>>92594720
What does it do before that?
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>>92594720
Feh, I bet you’re a scrub at losing. My jank is almost certainly better optimized to lose than your deck is.
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>>92594785
based Wimp Lo player
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>>92594707
Low-power Voltron/aristocrat deck.
The gimmick is that it doesn't have single protection card for Ebondeath but it doesn't matter because he is back in an instant anyway.
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>spend 30 minutes cutting cards down
>now I need to cut 12 cards
FUCK
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>>92594809
where's the stream
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>>92594814
Post deck. Let me see how shitty a deck builder you are
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>>92594812
That's an interesting direction for mono black and probably the only time I've ever heard of a "fair" mono black deck that isn't doing an infinite or saccing the board constantly
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>bought a new desk and webcam holder so I can finally play spelltable
Its all coming together
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>>92594819
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/arycOEjcXUaxiOOlQWJe2Q
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>>92592863
>Akiri+Reyhan
That sounds fun. Do you go full modular?
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>>92594241
How'd you set her up? Cathars' Crusade and other boosts depending on the creature's entering? She really delivers in a deck I use her in but I'm not sure how useful she'd be on her own.
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>>92594835
no, it was originally a modular deck (my third one i'd brewed at that point). but i found it was spread too thin and i couldn't get it feeling right, or any better than my muldrotha modular deck. now it is about using clues, food, treasures, and whatever else to make akiri fuckin giant, then sacing akiri to disciple of bolas, greater good, ruthless tehcnomancer, altar of dementia, or whatever else to get massive value, fill the grave, then mass reanimate using living death, scrap mastery, or eerie ultimatum.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/txjsIZ9RIESRbyJJzcHSvw
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>>92592181
>>92592181
I copy it and also run things that give me more upkeeps and doing shenanigans that don't involve casting like cycle effects.
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>>92594672
>Note that the ideal Tooth and Nail plan makes no use of one-toughness creatures, yet the way to make the deck a winner was to add sixteen one-toughness creatures and four Skullclamps.
lole
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normies off my bridge ree
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with the new jace, do you have to reveal the card you want to plot when you activate the ability? The way it's templated makes me think no
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>>92595309
the way your brain is templated is retarded
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>>92595309
No offense but you're kinda retarded. Reminds of a guy who insisted he didn't have to show us what E-Wit was grabbing because it doesn't say so on her effect
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>>92595309
Exile is a public zone.
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>>92595309
You have to exile a card with specific traits, so you have to reveal it. Also, Plot as a mechanic puts the card face up.
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>>92595378
>>92595338
exiling and plotting is not an additional cost, it's part of the effect. The cost is just +1 loyalty and there are no targets to declare. That's why it says "may" because it allows it to resolve without there being a valid card to plot.
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>>92595309
Exile, unless specified, is always face-up. It's a public zone.
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>>92595406
obviously when you actually plot the card it's exiled face down
I'm talking about activating the ability and passing priority before it resolves
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>>92595309
Learn the rules of the game and also learn rules of Plot. Do not make another post before you have done so.
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>>92595415
...No, plot never specifies exiling face down.
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>>92595415
*face up
>>92595417
you losers think you're so smart
tell me: if somebody stifles the ability, what happens to the card you were trying to plot?
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>>92592870
It's honestly just janny being a schizo.
>Gay Bolas posting pretty much has dropped to 1/thread unless people reply. Janny deletes it seemingly at random.
>Loot hate was getting deleted en masse and I have no idea why
>Jace's kid was getting deleted which doesn't even make sense because the MH3 leaks didn't
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>>92595424
Nothing. It stays in your hand. Jace gets the loyalty counter shift but nothing else happens.
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>>92595430
I still never saw the latter two getting deleted, but maybe it was just when I wasn't around or it was deleted quickly. The gorgon-human hybrid chick is clearly still staying up from that last post.
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>>92595431
then why would you need to reveal it if it's not going into exile and the ability doesn't require you to have a card with specific traits?
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>>92595430
Weird considering loot had mostly positive to middling reception here for the first couple threads. We were nicer to him then reddit and youtube was.
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>>92593689
my nigga absolutely based taste
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>>92595449
loot was hated? I thought the sois would eat that shit up
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>>92595466
No one is happy with current magic, because all the decisions feel corporate-mandated up to and including representation and shit designed for reddit-tier consumers.
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>>92592528
From most popular to least
>nekusar 15009
>raffine 8498
>myrel 5291
>shirei 4828
>solphim 4569
>rocco street chef 4521
>syr konrad 4311
>vadrik 3773
>alibou 2291
>kroxa 2220
>emiel 2177
>lier 1093
>sliver legion 731
>war doctor/adric 132
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>>92595466
Very few people outright LIKE Loot. But Reddit is the most whiny fucking place on the internet sometimes because everybody's a doomsayer all the time and Magic is always going to be the thing it is currently forever and that's AWFUL, etc.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that Loot is kind of cute, sure, but cuteness never really appeals to me for a character as much as, well, character, and Loot so far has only "plot device child" characterisation. I'm vaguely intrigued by him from a Vorthos perspective but beyond that he's just 'fine'. I like Jace and Vraska having a kid even though that's clearly not gonna work out well given they're on their antagonist arc, but the kid himself is just nothing right now. Maybe if they make him talk in the future or something. Or make him grow up a bit.
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>>92595448
Because you only exile it when the ability resolves. Then it moves to a public zone. Even if exile wasn't a public zone, you would still need to reveal it because the card has specifications, which is it needing to be 3cmc or less.
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>>92595466
I kinda like Loot for the sole reason that his introduction established Jace pounding Vraska's snussy repeatedly a canon piece of lore.
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>>92594275
His stock precon has proven difficult for me to upgrade. Struggling to find good mill sources for him and consistently draw the colors I need. Also, I reject the tranny lore, the pamphlet that comes with the precon is the only story I need
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>>92594275
>>92594418
>>92595526
This dude's a lady?
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>>92595515
Technically speaking Loot could've been introduced without that, but he's a 'slight' payoff to the notion of "Jace and Vraska want to be parents but clearly they can't and also they think it'd be a bad idea to really bring a kid into the world as-is because the world just continues to get worse and worse".
I hope they don't bungle whatever story arc they're going for with those two, because somehow they've been consistently pretty good as a pair.
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>>92595532
Nope, but WotC wrote a weird fanfiction that implied he was. Luckily, I own the card, and therefore I write the canon
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>>92595459
I play Arena in my dumb Sapling deck, but it probably would also be decent in Tahngarth, can't have enough fighting cards that don't take a nonland slot.
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>>92595499
yes I know what fucking plot does! Christ you guys are retarded. I specifically asked "when you activate the ability"
>you would still need to reveal it because the card has specifications, which is it needing to be 3cmc or less
it doesn't though because it says "you may exile" so it's perfectly fine to with no hand at all and not be forced to ignore any instructions. And if the opponent responds with a wheel or something, I can just choose a different card when it resolves, if possible.
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>>92595553
Yes, you choose the card that you exile (if you choose TO exile a card) as the ability resolves. It is revealed as it is exiled, because exile is public.
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>>92595568
yeah so when you activate the ability, you DON'T reveal the card. Only when it resolves. That's what I was asking.
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>>92595576
Maybe you should polish up on your reading skills before trying to play MTG
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>>92595553
Are you being obtuse on purpose or are you genuinely retarded? You choose the card when the ability resolves and then it goes to face up exile or you don't choose anything and nothing happens. When you activate the ability, it does nothing until it resolves. You need to pass priority around the table before it resolves. When nobody has responded to the ability and it resolves, only then you choose a card and exile it face up.
I'm not sure in how many different ways I can say the same thing, but I took a few different approaches to get it through your thick skull.
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>>92595576
Well, yeah, the ability goes on the stack, and the resolution of that ability is "hey, controller of this ability, do you want to exile a card with CMC 3 or less from your hand". There's no point at which you choose the card prior to the ability resolving.
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>>92595532
>Female criminal was part of the riveteers
>left and started a business
>Becomes FtM with the money
>invasion happens
>Goes into debt because invasion
>flees plane and finds a male baby cactus and adopts it
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>>92595599
thank you for finally answering my question without calling me a retard
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>>92595515
>>92595536
These were the main reasons people were fine with him here.
People new he existed to be merch but he could still serve a narrative purpose and finally Jace and Vraska are together
Reddit cared more about the existing to be merch and a mascot part
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>>92595649
Truth hurts, huh?
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>>92595640
Incorrect. The real lore is:
>Well paid Cabaretti enforcer on New Capenna
>Phyrexian invasion happens
>Yuma fucks off to save some children, leaves his boss for dead
>gets excommunicated from gang, bounty placed on head
>escapes to Thunder Junction and adopts a cactus baby
>wanders the plane in search of the cactus baby's family and makes friends with the cactus folk

The tranny fanfiction contradicts the pamphlet that the actually sell you with the deck, and I prefer the latter
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>>92595403
You still have to show that the card you exiled had the correct criteria to be chosen by the effect. It's like how you have to reveal the card when you tutor for "A Creature Card", but you don't have to reveal when it's "A Card".
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>>92595680
one day you'll get over your crippling fear of the outdoors enough to go to your LGS and observe just how many long-standing players will activate the ability, slam down the card they want to plot, and go "any responses?"
>>92595745
yeah that's not what I was asking at all, but thanks I guess
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>>92595675
I don't really... Care if he's designed to be merch? You can still have good characters from corporate origins. I don't think he's a good character as of now, because he's not really a character right now.
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>>92595770
For the record, I answered to your question at least once cordially and in an informative manner. You deserve all the name calling for being a massive dunce and not understanding at all, almost like you had your mind set on how the card works and refuse to understand how things actually are.
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>>92595819
well sorry, I asked a reasonable clarification about the process of revealing information as an ability is activated and then resolves and immediately got called a retard twice. And then it turned out everyone just read "when you activate the ability" as "when it resolves" for some reason and I was right about how it worked to begin with.
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The new Shuffle Up and Play almost seems like a troll image.
Picking Olivia and two ugly trannies seems like a deliberate insult
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>>92595869
i feel more anger towards olivia then the trannies, she makes kiblers show un watchable which is a real fucking shame
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>>92595845
Just to remind you, all activated abilities, including loyalty abilities have the formatting "cost: effect", and for planeswalkers, the cost is increasing or reducing loyalty counters (or having 0 cost), all after the loyalty counter is the effect. All of it happens when the ability resolves, the effect never happens when the cost is paid.
I think the confusion was because of the fact that most people understand already that activating abilities doesn't do anything until they start resolving, of course barring specific cost, like pic related for example, but they're rare cases.
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>>92595890
Olivia is extremely unlikable which is why the best episode is the recent episode with Josh, Prof, Kibler, and her because she is fuming and not even a contender or threat.
She is fit and attractive which is why I felt like it felt like a direct insult.

I can't tell if she's over playing a bitch or being a bitch which is the main problem and if it's the former she needs to dial it back a bit
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>>92595929
yeah, but there's a lot of scenarios where you have to clarify your intent (ie target) before passing priority, and scenarios where you must reveal cards to verify to other players that you've chosen a valid target. I ended up going to the CR and reading that it's explicitly only targeting and not any other form of choosing.
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>>92595640
>>92595699
Fucking weird just checked my insert ANF it has the caberetti story too. Have they mentioned it at all?
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>>92595980
>I can't tell if she's over playing a bitch or being a bitch
it's one of those things where you play into it, but you play into it for so long it kind of becomes you. everyone around her doesn't seem too peeved by her attitude, so based on that we can assume her offscreen self is more likeable and it is all just a character, but it does often come off as more whiny and annoying and kind of bitchy then as "playing a villain." that said, i do believe she is kind of a bitch, but the kind of bitch that gets along with everyone within those circles. you know, sometimes a bitch is well liked because they hold similar values to those around them, so even when they are being a bitch no one really cares because she is kind of saying things/acting how everyone around her wants to.
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>>92595699
>>92596010
So because wizards is completely incompetent and I don't know anyone who bought that deck I don't know if you are trolling or if they actually have a completely different backstory when you buy the deck
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>>92596025
She needs to course correct a bit then.
The table needs a heel that isn't Kibler just making a massive board because green, but the villain should be someone to root against instead of wishing she wasn't there in general
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>>92595869
>>92595890
>watching commander games on youtube
why do you do this
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>>92596042
I eventually run out of things to watch on lunch
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>>92596025
I have no idea who she is but any woman with any kind of internet presence has simps with 100% possibility and besides, I don't think anyone in any video would dare clap back at a woman because of the dumb mob mentality. Besides, it's been well established that prof has no spine.
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>>92596028
I bought it for my og hazezon
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>>92596042
because i can only play on friday
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>>92596028
They probably decided that they wanted Yuma to be a troon after the decks had already been produced and were ready to ship, hence why the webfiction gave Yuma such a different backstory. In the deck, he's a lone wanderer looking for Kyrie's parents, while in the webfic he's a fake man who runs a bar with Kyrie (who is secretly cactus Jesus and also an infinite water source)
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>>92596025
I occasionally watch Kibler's streams and she seems perfectly fine whenever she shows up on those so I assume it's something of a 'bit' that she acts like that in Commander games. Or maybe she's just overly competitive.
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>>92596062
>I have no idea who she is
she's kiblers girlfriend and is one of the five commander rules committee members.
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>>92596144
I have no idea who that is either. Do you mean RC or Rules Advisory Group?
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>>92596064
>>92596128
It is odd how different they are. Don't even have the same families. In the written story, Yuma's former gang was the Riveteers. The baby cactusfolk is more-or-less the same in both though.
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>>92596153
i havent even been playing magic long and i know who kibler is
from hearthstone
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>>92596157
The anon in >>92596128 is probably on the right track. Wizards is a very confused jumble of a company at the best of times; this is likely a case of the right and not knowing what the left hand was doing
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>>92596198
Very probable they made the blurb early on and then hashed out the story with the author on some level and details changed here and there. Not sure why you'd need to change the family, it's a frankly minor detail.
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>>92596153
rules committee. one of five members. the advisory group is like 10+ members.
kibler is a well known pro from the early days of magic, lead designer of the wow tcg, and also a hearthstone streamer.
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>>92596050
there is no way you run out of that much material that you need to youtube watch commander games. literally, watching something like kitchen nightmares will do you more good than commander games.
>>92596103
same thing as above. your time is better spent elsewhere.
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>>92596194
>>92596271
All right. I don't really watch any ecelebs so I just know the really pushed ones like prof.
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>>92591209
>How has your latest commander been treating you?

Learning Inquisitor Greyfax has been an interesting experience.
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>>92596323
He's a MTG hall of famer and and was a pro player obviously.
He also did industry work so he's a little different then the other ones who were always content creators.
What probably helps him is the fact that he just seems nice plus he just likes green and dragons
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>>92596323
kibler was famous in the mtg community before "e-celeb" existed as a term
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>>92596431
>>92596448
That's cool, I take your word for it. I've never been interested in famous people nor the pro scene, I just know some of the invitational winner names, like Bob Maher.
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New thread when?
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Someone already made a new thread same time as this one. May as well migrate
>>92591223
>>92591223
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i've started to play cedh tables in spelltable just to play land destruction with no wincon and make games go really long
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>>92592699
How’s mono b ashnod? I tried ashnod the uncaring but the payoff was not worth it and it had trouble ending games
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>Stella goes infinite with a single card
Ban this cunt



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