Previously: >>92577224>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.nethttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>TQ/prompt:What's the most difficult to build Commander you've tried to make work? How did you do it?
>>92591223>What's the most difficult to build Commander you've tried to make work? How did you do it?Fynn the Fangbearer. It fundamentally doesn't work. People get irrationally mad about poison counters and make you archenemy from the start of games. I was consistently able to kill one player per game, but then the other 2 players would always focus kill me. After a year of playing Fynn and trying to make him work, the only win I got with him was when everyone ignored me and someone played a boardwipe. I topdecked a lucky Hornet Queen and was able to kill the table with that before everyone could rebuild. Fynn seems simple but in game politics and people's irrational hatred of getting poison counters made him not work.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/control-zombie-2/?cb=1713924221Fuck, what do I cut? I ran into the problem of slowly taking out all the interaction of this list before since I wanted fun zombie cards. But now I need to refocus it and add in enough control elements
>>92591223>TQI tried building Treva the Renewer as a lifegain deck but it really doesnt keep up with any of the decks nowadays. She's currently a Bant Goodstuff deck with a classic finisher combo with Finest Hour>Why Treva?I love my pack foil Treva from years ago
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
How you guys liking Plot so far?Any Plot cards you add to your decks?
how does this look for a najeela build that doesnt go infinite, il probably cut grim hireling since shes not a warrior and i want to keep it pure warriors
>>92596665i like highway robbery, though i will very likely never plot it. i like thrill of possibility/tormenting voice type cards, and i like them even better when i discard on resolution, not cast, so that a counterspell doesn't 2for1 me. i also like step between worlds and plan the heist. also playing railway brawler, because i pulled one at prerelease, but i also don't care too much about plot (but i will plot this one)
>>92596665I like it better than foretell, although only sorcery speed hurts it
>>92596665None, this set is gay and I'm waiting for Bloomkino
>>92596765the only cards i got was honest rutstein and footjob vraskaotherwise i skipped
>>92596789you are missing out. this thing is some of the best timmybait we've gotten in a while.
>>92596809oh right, someone told me to put this in my omnath deck im trying to build
>>92596809green card that is better than old green card, what an exciting design spacefaggots eating this slop up is why every new creature has to have an etb and death trigger stapled to it
>>92596879Fun!Inviting!Replayable!Exciting!Because it's motivated by money.
>>92596879whatever, cry more faggot. i will play it with siege rhino and you will seethe.>pic related is you
>>92596716Just play cEDH if you are playing najeela. Literally just go infinite, that's what she does.
>>92596959>I WILL EAT MY SHIT AND ENJOY ITyup eat up piggy, daddy hasbro needs this set to sell!
>>92596991will we ever get god form yawg as a card
>>92597000We have Death Cloud already.
>>92596991yeah, and you not enjoying eating shit yet you keep doing it. which is arguably more embarrassing. why are you here if you don't enjoy it?
>>92597000Maybe in MH3 we'll get, like, "Yawgmoth, Father of Machines" that flips into an Enchantment or something called "Yawgmoth, Will of Phyrexia".
>>92591223Good TQfor me, it is probably rosheen. deck was pretty much x burn spells, hydras, and ramp. It wasn't doing enough to maintain a thunderous board presence and being incentivized to spend all my mana during my main phases meant I rarely had enough left over for interaction and shit. I played it about a half dozen times before taking it apart.I actually did get one win, but that was because I was pretty much left alone and then the guy who should have won fumbled at the last moment.
>>92597040Side note, it's funny to me how few cards depict Yawgmoth in any form. And the Yawgmoth art tag on Scryfall returns pic-related for the funniest reason.
>>92596809What deck wants this? I assume it's dinosaurs but seven cmc conditional card draw seems not that impressive. It seems to slot well into Ghalta mono green maybe? I'm just not sure why you'd play this over something that wins you the game.
>>92597071Pantlaza bait, one of the most prolific MTGA commander decks
>>92597071for me, it's karador midrange ft. siege rhino and obzedat. got a buddy who plays tasigur pod with a bunch of 7 drops, and it is a good fetchable target there. like i said, though, it is timmybait. not saying this is good up against your doomsday cedh deck or anything. not everything needs to be 10 on the power scale to be good or fun to play with.
Crashing this pod, no survivors
Gay Bolas
>>92597136Why doesn't it just say "goad all creatures your opponents control", I wonder. I guess because it was printed in a Standard set?
>>92597150That, and Kardur will affect a creature that your opponent plays after the effect triggers but before your next turn; i.e. one with haste
>>92597150It's worded in a way that's significantly better than "goad all creatures you don't control" desu.
>>92597163Ah, true, it's a one round static effect of sorts instead of "affects all creatures that already are there".
is this guy actually a fucking cedh commander
>>92597548No. Almost every cEDH viable commander is either a powerful engine or a combo piece. Just tutoring for a card after you attack isn't great.
>>92597591you tutor for ad naus, then draw your whole deck then discard 40 lands then save yourself with dark spherei saw some people talking about him and he even topped an event
>>92597619forgot image
>>92597619goes in the same bin as every other fast combo deck which folds immediately to any kind of interaction
>>92597619I guess you can do that. There's some value to being a cheap way to tutor for Ad Nauseum, but is he better than Sidisi?
Need help with my Jeleva Deck, https://www.archidekt.com/decks/7468160/a_spellthiefs_requiem I need advice on what removal to cut and what possible cards to add
>>92596665this card would go stupid in goreclaw, the plot doesn't even matter
>>92597658Was mostly curious how much he's actually used in cedh or is he just a wildcard deck, I'm assuming if people actually know what the deck does they hold the force of will for the ad naus
>>92596809Played this the other day, copied it twice and then almost decked myself cause I had a few anthem effects out and a faerie artisans. Good card.
>>92597619This combo is never resolving in cEDH. It's absurdly telegraphed over a full rotation and locks you to monoB so you can't reliably protect your win.
>>92597040oh god please no i don't want him to be flip trash
>>92597163>>92597164if it was just that they could just have written "all creatures your opponents control are goaded until your next turn"
>>92597040If he was in MH3 we probably would have gotten a teaser for him already since it would be a really big inclusion. MH3's main focus seems to be Eldrazi.>>92597999If he ever gets a card, it should probably be a Meld card simply because he would need to be incredibly powerful to feel lore-accurate, and meld cards are a good way of doing that without breaking 60 card formats. I mean, Planeswalker Urza is already a meld card.
>>92598012two faced cards aren't real cards
>>92598014Sure thing granpa, lets get you to your old school 93-94 game
Bring back fuse cards
Any spicy tech for the cute paleontologists?
>>92598192
>Stella goes infinite with one other cardFuck whoever designed this cunt and made a precon around it.
>>92598014They're "real" the same way tokens are real. We aren't supposed to use the double faced cards in our decks because they're marked cards if you play without completely opaque sleeves. We're SUPPOSED to use those fill-in-the-blank cards and only pull out the actual double faced cards when we play the fill-in ones. The problem is that the entire concept is really stupid. Those cards have walls of text that you need to reference while you're playing, so literally everyone just plays the actual card, unsleeves it, and resleeves it when it transforms. It's an entire category of card that requires a third party product, but they get away with that bullshit because everyone already uses sleeves.
>>92598210What's the combo?
>>92598012>meldMan, I hope we see more of these.
>>92598301cerulean wisps
>>92596771extremely based
I've never heard someone complain about honest magic. Infinite combos on the other hand...
>>92598192Birthing Pod will be an all-star in this deck. Samwise Gamgee, too, if you want repeatable recursion and have enough historic cards to justify running him
>>92598402MLD is honest.
>>92598301>>92598321Cerulean Wisps is the cheapest one, but it also works with Refocus and Twitch
>>92598321>>92598510Ah, so not only is it easy to set up but there are multiple cards you can do it with to make sure you get off the combo in case one gets stuck. That's wild.
>>92598216I always liked the per-card proxies like Nicol Bolas, the Ravager's stand-in card.The ones where you have to write yourself or just having a humongous list of checkboxes is lame
give me a big brain commander all of my decks are just ooga booga combo or aggro
>>92598620It's weird that they made one for Nicol Bolas, but didn't put his flipping condition on the token. Given the number of double sided advertisement cards that are in a box, I don't think it's too much to have these kinds of stand-in tokens for each flip card in a set.
>>92598301>>92598321>>92598510Or just kill them all outright with this
>>92598620If you proxy them, they also aren't nearly as much of a pain. You have the front side in your library with a sheet of paper and the backside in your command zone basically. The blank/checkbox cards are really what makes them shit to play.
>>92598620It's a neat frame to use
>>92598695Interesting. It looks like there are actually a LOT of Threaten spells with secondary effects that you can abuse. Twisted Fealty kills everyone, but you can make infinite treasure tokens, scry your whole deck, give all your creatures a billion +1/+1 counters, and use extra combat spells to gain unlimited attacks. There are a shocking number of ways to go infinite with her.
>>92598887seize the day won't work unless you also have vigilance
>>92598894No problem
I'm ready for Ratadrabik.
>>92598887would use the word boring rather than interesting
My self-imposed deckbuilding rules that I don't actually hold my pod to despite giving to myself:>No MLD. Spot removal for lands is okay.>No infinites, even if the game is won on the same turn>Only acceptable wincons are HP to 0, 21 commander damage, and Battle of Wits>Wins ideally come from a creature dealing combat damage>No Mana Crypt, Chrome Mox, Mox Opal, or Mox Diamond>Mox Amber, Mana Vault, and Gemstone Caverns are only for use in emergencies>Keep color identity focused on 3 colors maximum. Even if commander is 4 or 5 colors. It's how God intended EDH to be.>Avoid RL cards if possibleDoes anyone have more bad ideas I should give myself?
>>92599086my niga
>>92596716Kazuul has done some work for me as a sort of aggressive version of ghostly prison, and any red deck that goes wide should probably have goblin bombardment in it
Advice to improve my artifact foodstuff deck? I have most all the more expensive cards from an old Bosh deck from when I had more money than sense.https://archidekt.com/decks/7280837/karn_legacy_reforged_artifact_tax_fraud
>>92599308Goodstuff*
>>92599204the worst thing you could probably do is add a budget limit for ever card, like having no single card be worth over a penny or some dumb redditor shit
>>92599169If you ain't turning dudes sideways are you even playing MTG?
>>92599321>tapping my commander infinitely with 1 card combo counts as turning sidewaysyawn
>>92599326How did you read a direct quote from a mono-green playing tournament winner and think I meant something other than combat?
>>92598210>>92598510>>92598695>got the commander for free>already have wisps from my old orvar deckonly need refocus and twitch and I might build her
>>92599334Because you used it in reference to a commander that goes infinite at the drop of a hat, which if built "correctly", never needs to even touch the combat step.
There's a full proxy allowed cedh tourney at my lgs this week. Ive never played before but the prizing is pretty good and its not like I have to actually buy cards.Whats the most autopilot deck possible, ideally avoiding anything with underworld breach lines as the main wincon as I'm a noob but unfortunately that seems to be most good decks
>>92599521Thoracle turbo and pray nobody is holding up interaction.Kenrith decks are usually simple value printers.Kennith is straightforward in that if your commander ever resolves you have infinite mana.
>99 cards full of pricy staples >fuck ton of tutors and infinite combos >slaps a unpopular commander on the helmet and calls deck mid powerwhy do people do that?
>>92596665Stuffing this fucker into Gyome. Plot seems super relevant here since you can practically guarantee a trigger later instead of praying it lasts a turn cycle
>>92599762plot is so retartedly broken even in commander. been stuffing free cast hate in my decks against cascade and now plot
>>92599521TivitRuns almost no bad cards apart from time sieve so every hand is playable, your commander is a bomb value engine that blocks everything, and you have an easy to remember 1 card combo that requires no thoughts
>>92599819Examples of this? I have a table that loves abusing suspend and while it's not nearly as strong I'm interested in potential more targeted responses to it.
How to make aggro fun?
>>92599867hello
>>92599969Racism.
I am actually pretty happy with how OTJ turned out. Huge improvement over MKM.
>>92600061really hard to be worse than MKM
>>92600061I fucking hate committing a crime as a mechanic and the story was a complete mess, but overall power wise it's been great
>>92599710"Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game"www.designer-notes.com/game-developer-column-17-water-finds-a-crack/They build for optimization in the colors they're allowed over actually building synergy around commander>>92599867Pic. Also incidentally stops free spells and a few of artifact/eldrazi stuff
>>92596665Adding Pyretic Charge to Rielle.Wish there was something good to put in Oskar, plot seems fun but nothing stood out for that deck. Might try Slickshot Lockpicker.
>>92599867there are very few. especially after they buffed suspend so any damage hate is useless now
>>92599819>paying full price or at most a 1-mana discount for a card you don’t actually get for at least an entire turn cycle is brokenAmazing
>>92600200sandbagging is the most powerful move you can make no-games-kun. right after drawtempo is little to non-existent in edh so you can just keep putting shit in exile, wipe and then vomit everything on board. it basically makes every board wipe one sided
>>92600141It can almost freeze colourless decks. I think most others would be fine aside from stopping free spells.
>friends don't want to meet up every day for commanderyou brought me into this, I never wanted to play magic, but you went "hurrsurr try it, it'll be fun", and now that I'm hooked with this shit you have the gall to tell me you are burned out with me? tough luck, I just came from a week long brewing session and want to test my THREE new beatdown decks. we WILL have several commander nights this week and we WILL value our time together as friends
>>92591223>TQBreya. And I actually couldn't do it, the thing I want to do with an artifact deck was too specific that I kept getting caught up in how many cards I could use and got lost in it. Now I use an Esper Urza deck instead for the same purpose.>>92597136A friend of mine runs a deck about this and it is an absolute trainwreck, I fucking love this guy>>92600284Who are your three new commanders?
>>92600355>Who are your three new commanders?Rakdos, Lord of RiotsZurgo HelmsmasherKardur Doomscourge
>>92599308Pls respond
>>92591223>What's the most difficult to build Commander you've tried to make work? How did you do it?https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AIcnqDDWI0mlIKqjloUH4APharika. I made her self-mill creature heavy enchantments. The deck revolves around getting a mill engine online, seedborn muse, and an enchantment payoff like thoughtrender lamia to lock the game
>>92600434>Rakdos, Lord of RiotsPsychotic energy, I like it>Zurgo HelmsmasherStraight forward facesmashing>Kardur DoomscourgeI can't get enough of seeing this dude hit the table, it's so satisfying. Got to the point where I run one as a sub commander in my Baeloth Barrityl deck just to see people deal with it.>>92599308Theres a new Darksteel card that lets you cast a colorless spell from your hand each turn for free. Also you might like Cybermen Squadron or Cyberman Patrol for Afflict and Myriad as a blanket effect.
>>92596013Thats too bad brother, I also built a long time ago a Fynn deck and it was pretty good. This was before the Phyrexia sets and all so the thing with massive poisons decks were a niche thing still. Now I still have the deck but is better approched because there are things like the Dimir Venser which is just the worst in comparison with Fynn, at least Fin was DeathTouch AND Poison stuff, Just keep at it and keep enjoying the deck and the other faggots that cry abaout it just dont know any better.
>>92596765Another man of culture
>>92598482>My buddy wanted to play his "shitty" moonfolk deck that didn't do "anything">Game goes on an he doesn't do anything except ramp >Suddenly nukes the board returning all permanents except his to hand and shows he can bounce all lands every turn so he just wins from that point I've learned to not trust any of his decks now
I've got anime brainrot, who are your favorite waifu commanders
>>92600670Ashnod!Ayara!Ayli!Olivia!Nahiri!Thalia!
>>92600670Ashnod, specifically the Grixis one that doubles sacrifice abilities
>>92600670Braids
Post the deck you're working on right now, WIP or just finished. I will rate them.
>>92600670Savra. No waifus for you guys
ok I pre ordered the mh3 eldrazi deckhope it's good
>>92601041Commander: Calamity, Galloping Inferno1 Arcane Signet1 Sol Ring1 Wayfarer's Bauble1 Lightning Greaves1 Mind Stone1 Swiftfoot Boots1 Cursed Mirror1 Fire Diamond1 Panharmonicon1 Liquimetal Torque1 Lithoform Engine1 Strionic Resonator1 Meteor Golem1 Solemn Simulacrum1 Wily Goblin1 Rose Room Treasurer1 Patron of the Arts1 Combustible Gearhulk1 Feldon of the Third Path1 Filigree Familiar1 Trumpeting Carnosaur1 Rapacious Dragon1 Impulsive Pilferer1 Stalking Vengeance1 Treasure Keeper1 Witty Roastmaster1 Simian Spirit Guide1 Dualcaster Mage1 Mogg War Marshal1 Rigging Runner1 Stingscourger1 Torbran, Thane of Red Fell1 Angrath's Marauders1 Furnace Gremlin1 Firemantle Mage1 Scampering Scorcher1 Goblin Bombardment1 Impact Tremors1 Industrial Advancement1 Underworld Breach1 Tooth and Claw1 Mechanized Warfare1 Blood Moon1 Tempered in Solitude1 Furious Rise1 Chaos Warp1 Thrill of Possibility1 Big Score1 Abrade1 Red Elemental Blast1 Pyroblast1 Call In a Professional1 Tibalt's Trickery1 Myriad Landscape33 Mountain1 Rogue's Passage1 Faithless Looting1 Seize the Spoils1 Blasphemous Act1 Chain Reaction1 Twinflame1 Heat Shimmer1 Fervent Mastery1 Ruination1 Act of Treason1 Mark of Mutiny1 Great Train Heist
>>92599214Making a hand drawn token is kind of cool.
>>92601096what do you think of my proxies
>>92601041https://www.archidekt.com/decks/5517230/entertainmentBaeloth Barrityl + Agent of the Shadow Thieves with a focus on trying to keep Baeloth on board and keep goad pressure on. I'm trying to find a slot for Hot Pursuit right now for that cute new wincon.And alsohttps://www.archidekt.com/decks/5937193/karlachs_onslaughtKarlach + Veteran Soldier with an attempt to blend Tokens and Multi-combats with some big boros lads and ladies. Need to fit in Craig Boone for funny and Great Train Heist because come on.>>92601085Same, unironically hoping it's rad because I also got my hands on Zhulodok and ended up disassembling it after it got boring.
Who the fuck paid $297 for 9 picture of Fjorm?
>>92601227Whoops, wrong board
>>92601205unironically impressed by the drawings but holy shit your handwriting is a fucking mess, do you have parkinson's?
>>92596013>play poison counters, effectively reducing everyone's health to 10, which can't be healed>full of cheap gimmicks>can always cheaply kill one player with some 'I swing 10 unblockable hexproof infect'>'but, I'm suddenly the threat after insta-gibbing someone!'sorry dipshit, poison counters are busted. Between infect and proliferate, it's fucking cancer.
>>92601041https://www.moxfield.com/decks/1-SXNciKN0qPPA6EnOcHFAhere bro, talk about my new deck
>>92601245Infect is shit
>>92601041Took a part my tasha deck and made this two:https://archidekt.com/decks/7464078/phenax_mindmaxhttps://archidekt.com/decks/7342511/don_n_obeka_stealforceThen this for general shenaniganshttps://archidekt.com/decks/7461760/jeremy_juice
>>92601293Infect is good against bad players
>>92601227me
I built a dumb Simic value with Bonny Pall and Keruga companion. I discovered that Echoing Equation is a pretty good card and best of all, I can search it with Primal Command.
It's potato quality so you know it's legit
>>92601041https://archidekt.com/decks/7453487/geralf_says_theres_bodies_in_the_wallsMeant for low power/precon tier. I have a soft spot for bident of thassa effects.
>>92601237no, i just made these about a decade ago, back when i used to smoke a shitload of pot. that, and i write with speed in mind, not legibility. those two things together make my handwriting near impossible to read for many people. i don't feel sorry for the TAs who had to mark my written exam essays. i half think they gave me good marks because they didn't want to bother attempting to read them and didn't want the potential of me fighting back if they gave a poor mark.
>>92601418>Whenever a Lhurgoyf permanent card is put into your graveyard from anywhere else than battlefield, return it to the battlefield.>Whenever another creature you control deals combat damage to a player, create two treasure tokens.Am I reading this right?Captcha: KN0T
>>926014182/3
>>92601418>>92601462holy fuck who took these photos? were they actively being physically shaken down by pinkerton agents while they tried to snap the photos?
3/3
>>92601462>On ETB put a everything counter on a creature and on a land.>Lands with everything counters are all types and creatures are changelingsWish that secondary commanders get a legible photos. Not gonna buy anyway tho.
>>92601449I think the bottom says to make a tarmogoyf token
>>92601471So is Kindred gonna replace tribal card type or is it completely separate from it? As in, if I have a kindred card and a tribal card in my grave, do they count as same or separate for purposes of Delirium and such?
>>92601093kinda gay but i like the horse 5/10>>92601210>Baeloth7/10 concept 5/10 execution you have no removal and no real recursion 5/10>Karlachkinda shit but if its mid power table people will like it and think your scary 6/10>>92601283>golgari sacrifice daring today, aren't we? in all seriously 8/10 >>92601302>mill3/10>Andres8/10 this shit is based>>92601420best deck i've seen yet this thread10/10
>>92601484We arena now.>Conjure a Tarmogoyf creature on the battlefield
>>92601041I finished a Bonny Pall timmy deck just last week and I'm working on Roxanne and another deck with Othelm and Wernog.
>>92601462>>92601482>they really brought rangeling to black bordergoddamn
>>92601418>>92601462>>92601471>The absolute worst picture quality known to manThis must be an intentional leak. A normal person wouldn't do this.
>>92601548Keep in mind that the counters do jack shit if the commander is not on the battlefield.>tfw Simic Domain
>>92601041i just started brewing yet another modular deck. doing breya modular this time. i hope it is fun.
>>92601418>They're continuing the fugly NFT portraits
>>92601418>>92601462>>92601471can someone translate the text from blurryspeak
>>92601580That was confirmed ages ago dude.>>92601582Here's two.>>92601482>>92601449Though in the latter replace the treasure tokens with a Tarmogoyf token.
>>92601322Explains why he was upset
>>92601093Don't ever post your deck like this again, use moxfield
>>92601580>"NFTs? These are based on Mike Mitchell's artwork" I think to myself>Look up Mike Mitchell's X account (formerly known as Twitter)>He is just shilling some NFTs that died years ago
>>92601659>>92601322>hehe you are le bad>infect is shit, imagine having to rely on creatures swinging >only shit players rely on combat damage to win>only dipshit players rely on lands to provide mana>I have 15 counters and removal in my hand at all time>not only can I remove all creatures they control at instant speed, but I can also counter any random spell they cast giving a creature swinging infect>Also, as a pro, I can simply raise my eyebrow and laugh at them as I run cEDH against precons, what a fucking stupid chumps>behold my true power>demonic consultation thassas oracle.. heh.. maybe next time try harder..a true magician of the gathering can do anything
>>92601418>>92601462>>92601471Looks like Eldrazi face guy says>Whenever you cast an Eldrazi spell, you may pay <><>, if you do, copy all spells you control, then copy all other activated and triggered abilities you control. You may choose new targets for the copies.
>>92601549fuck it sure feels like it right? Even the shittiest phones have cameras better then this.yet year after year "leaks" look like they are taken with a phone from 2001.
>>92601820Third world
>>92601725It’s been a theory for a while that the portrait style cards were originally planned to be for an NFT tie-in, where presumably one in however many cards would come with a code that gave you a matching NFT. However NFTs became unprofitable in the time that it would have taken for them to see that idea to fruition so we’re left with the ugly profile cards. The fact that the artist is shilling for NFTs lends credence to this theory.
>>92601778>I lost to an infect deck one time so that makes infect a cedh deck
>>92601824even 3rd world has better cameras my dude.
>>92601824>3rd worlder can buy $400 USD worth of cards but not a better phone[doubt]
>>92601825The only thing I could imagine is having a code that redeems a version of the card on Arena, but thats been around for a while now. Blockchain, NFT, AI, all this faggot ass third world tech bullshit needs to die before I commit a Butlerian Jihad.
>>92601863>Buy
>>92601832>>92601863The image was probably decent quality but whoever took it wanted to remove the EXIF data and compress the image through discord or whatsapp or some messenger app.
>>92601863>>92601873They're obviously official leaks which WotC sent to someone just to Pinkerton them back after the set generates the hype they want, is what they hope at least.
>>92601829yes, that was my point it seems. anyway, poison/infect/proliferate are strong and obviously not cEDH, so some double nigger spouting infect is shit probably hasn't dealt with one on an even footing.
>>92601902>Poison is strongLOL it's not 2013 anymore gramps.
>>92601887>HypeYes, nothing can hype me like effect doublers and triggered abilities that x100 treasures, counters and tokens.
Played against this last night. Just ordered one. This shit is busted and I fucking hate this set.
>>92601913>#1 commander is atraxa, #1 deck type is infect
>>92601902Infect is just cheesy, they either kill 1 person randomly and immediately lose, or everyone makes them archenemy and they die before they do anything There's someone at my locals who only plays infect decks and i think it's funny
>>92601942>missteps younothing personal, kid
>>92601955full circle>>92596013
>>92601952>EdhrecLMAO
>>92601942I got a couple of these in my boxes, is it that good? What happened?
>>92601974There was one game where I was gonna kill the table if I untapped and the infect guy was trying to get someone to kill me since he realized I was gonna win, instead I convinced him to use removal on the infect guy so he doesn't kill them next turn since they were so afraid of dying to infect
>>92601942That's a bold statement, Anon. Please give the class your reasoning.
>>92601914That's why I said "it's what they hope," but it just shows that WotC are creatively bankrupt. It's natural that it would happen because the design team is on endless crunch, which is why we have this "creative templating." So everything just boils to the same shit they've been doing but it's tweaked so they don't print identical cards. Next natural step is to have shit like "When a permanent entering battlefield would cause an ability of a source you control to trigger, copy it twice. Do this only once each turn."
>>92602036Read the card.
>>92601942>Anon learns about board wipes for the first time
>>92602052I did. Let me help you to get a conversation started.Why would you sleeve up Final Showdown instead of Winds of Abandon?
>>92602094Flexibility. Instant speed.
>>92602047>Do this only once each turn.My friend (whom I was complaining about how he underrates his decks) asks this about every card it's printed on. Yes, the new orzhov token-copy guy SHOULD have that limitation, otherwise he stops other token decks from playing the game.
>>92602094It's an instant. It can also be used as a pseudo dress down if need be.
>>92602073I find it amazing how many people approach wipes as somehow 'fair" or 'resetting the board' when the only reason to cast them is if it's more helpful to you than anyone else.Yes a wrath I can cast before untap is strong, especially one that make it semi asymmetric
>>92602094>SorceryI would never sleeve this shit up
>>92602094It's instant speed and it does a lot>save your 1 dude>stop a creature-based combo (Vito, Vindicator)>cuck someone out of a Heroic Intervention or Boros Charm>board wipe someone trying to Teferi himself out of harm's way
>>92602127Why yes anon, when I play cards I like them to work in my advantage, it might come as a surprise that im also trying to win
>>92602094Not him but showdown is more versatile. And unlike winds there’s actually a case where you’d realistically want to cast it for less than its full power.
>>92602118Sometimes it's necessary and sometimes it's not. I think that Freestrider Lookout, Pantlaza and Kambal are good examples where it's a necessity, but there's stuff like Ancient Cornucopia, Donal Herald of Wings or Mavinda that are most likely because WotC was afraid that they'd miss some old card that goes infinite, but they're too shitty for that anyway.
>>92602094>Ramp the go wide player for a billionYUCK
>>92602193idea is he will never have another turn
>>92602094Why would you play this over farewell
>>92602207>your opponents controlyou tell me
>>92602199If the idea is boardwipe into a win then Showdown is still much better because you can use it right before your turn and have full mana as opposed to having to spend 6 of it on your turn.
>>92602231then you've ended your previous turn with at least 6 mana open, no?
>>92602231You only save 1 creature though, it's not completely 1 sided
>>92601942>>92602094I am going to run it in sephara, at the cheap end its worse for the card im cutting for it blacksmith's skill, but at the high end its a one-sided clear because sephara is giving the team indestructible anyway so giving her it then clearing all is good. Instant speed too! And yes i run winds as well in the deck but both are good.
>>92602267>>92602287you too
>>92601942>white cyc riftgee I wonder
>>92602417>white cyc riftThey are not even close to comparable. Do you only play with creatures?
>>92602468It also hits your creatures
>>92602417>>92602468>>92602493Behold! The Blue Cyclonic Rift!
>>92602417>>92601942played against azorious fag no win con stax deck last night, told him to shut his bitch mouth after I exiled that with obeka when he cast that at the end of my turn. Then I skipped two of his turns with discontinuity and glorious end
I'm assuming cedh is the one place where people don't care about proxies
>>92602520You forgot the part where you creampied his mom and everyone clapped.
>>92602519
>>92602527>defending white/blue no wincondition stax players>thinking that shit talk is somehow some albert eistein class memeare you just a retard bitch that never leaves his room?
Wake up Bros.New MH3 commander leaks are out.Omo, Queen of Vesuva - 2{U/G}Whenever ~ ETBs or attacks, put an everything counter on up to one target creature and up to one target land.Creatures you control with everything counters on them are every creature type.Lands you control with everything counters on them are every land type.2RGBWhenever a llurgoyf is put into your graveyard from anywhere but the battlefield, put it into the battlefield.Whenever one or more creatures you control deal combat damage to a player create a Tarmagoyf token.5/6
>>92602550>Someone's making fun of my made up story?? YOU'RE ON HIS SIDE >:^(
>>92602573>Did you cast 3 obeka staples against a blue/white deck??>MADE. UP.>WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH>YOU SAID YOU PLAYED A SOL RING? DIDNT EXIST.
>>92602615>I epicly pwnd this guy at the card shop last night! I called him a bitch and then turnskipped him twice, I could see the hottie next to me get visibly wet at my alpha male style! >NO I SWEAR IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED STOP LAUGHING AT ME!
>>92602568Pretty new to MTG. New Eldrazi dude says 'Copy all spells you control', I think. Would that mean you get double non-legendary Eldrazi everytime you cast them if you paid whatever the cost is? Also this would not apply to creatures already on the field as they are now treated as permanents right?
>>92602650It was at my house with my buddies, but yes, that story is correct.https://archidekt.com/decks/6660011/obeka_smash
>>92602666Lol ok champ I'm sure you did.
Is yuriko a decent entry option for cedh atleast learning the format
>>92602659Spells you control means "spells that already on the stack". The idea is you cast a bunch of other things, activate a bunch of abilities, then cast something to trigger Ulalek's ability and copy all the things you just cast/activated/triggered.
>>92601942We Wuz Aragorns n Sheit player at my lgs dropped this as I was about to assemble a winning bard state with 4th Doc/Sarah Jane and literally accused me of cheating when I heroic interventioned it, jej. Because the guy with half his deck in his hand couldn't possibly have one of the same cards he played last game by turn 9. Scarab Chud player got my ass the next turn by casting a zombie apocalypse, but idc as long as I managed to make that other whiny faggot mad
>>92602666Okay, buddy, why don't you go farm some updoots over at r/magicTCG
>>92602666>UBfag has enough standing to call anyone else a bitchYeah bet the pecking order is hard to nail down over there.
>>92602755>Obeka >UBanon...
>>92602785>Doctor Who cards in the list>Has a Doctor Who deck in the same archidekt profileHoly shit you ellipses using retards need to give your balls a tug.
which playmats are we getting, rkfbros?
>>92602694So in the context of the Titans this would be like double card draw with Koz Butcher, or taking over multiple turns with Ema?
>>92602785Pray tell anon, what magic the gathering plane is The Master from Dr. Who from?
>>92602785>>92602823he means Universes Beyond you fucking tards not Blue/Black.
>>92602755>>92602745>>92602673>>92602807Seethe, sperg, dilate etcWhat rustles your jimmies more, that I don't give a shit about UB? that my story is true? or that I have a fat assed latina wife who was hot n horny that night after playing?
>>92602855No shit dumbass, that's why I'm making fun of him for running dr who cards like a bitch.
>>92602808I already have the only playmat I need
>>92602856Why would you lie about being in a mixed race relationship with an obese spic? Not exactly earning any cool points with that one
>>92602872>american censored version
>>92602808These cards were definitely RKF's worst pieces.
>>92602856>He's actually running with the "my girl got wet after I put the UW player in his place"How embarrassing
>>92602872i wouldnt use these on some random table
>>92602808Honestly I don't really care for RKF's artsyle. It's a bit too busy.I did CONSOOOM a Nils Hamm mat recently though and I fucking love it
>>92602856pfffff ahahahahahaha
>>92602943hamm is great, cant disagree with you there
>>92602943My favorite is the Pete Venters Kiki-Jiki mat. I also use the UMA Bitterblossom one during prereleases.
>>92602985Fuck me.
>>92602997Looks nice but I'm irked by mats that have CFB/SCG/whatever logos on them. It's kind of distracting.
>>92602856Full blown pity is now having your jimmies rustled I guess, weird how language evolves.
>>92603102I agree, but I take what I can get. As far as I'm aware, it's the only Kiki mat.
>>92602127>Yes a wrath I can cast before untap is strong, especially one that make it semi asymmetricIf you have 7 open mana, 3 of which is white then you honestly deserve to have a board wipe -1 at instant speed
Should I stuff her full of combos to dig for or build it like a Feldon 2.0?
>>92603339Unlike Feldon you still have to cast the shit or get it onto the battlefield somehow. Mine is mostly like a flicker deck, lots of etb or on attack effects.
I've learned mill decks make some people genuinely have a break down and they treat it like the most broken shit ever What's some steal things/mill decks I could try aside from tasha
>>92602732>heroic interventionI might be stupid but doesn't Final Showdown bypass Heroic Intervention if you pay for the first mode on top of the boardwipe? Heroic Intervention will give your creatures indestructible until the end of turn, but Final Showdown will remove all abilities before destroying them
>>92602679Not really. Yuriko relies too much on combat and is a bit too slow for cEDH. That format needs your deck to reliably win by turn 4. Yuriko is a regular EDH pubstomper deck
>>92602157>>92603298Why are you both agreeing with me but phrasing it like it's not what I already said.7 mana for a asymmetric wipe is about right using cyc rift as reference point. Instant speed helps as wellAnd idiots at the lgs literally do play wipes if anyone gets too far ahead, even if it slows themselves down significantly. I'm saying it's amazing they think this way instead of turning it to an advantage
>>92603400It would.
>>92603416>Too good for edh>Not good enough for cedh>Isn't good if you play pure ninjasI hate it, I just want to play yuriko
>>92603416You are a moron. Yuriko routinely tops cedh tier lists and wins events. Please play cedh before talking about. Most groups are proxy friendly and if wanna fuck around with spelltable there are plenty of places.
>>92603435My LGS only plays cEDH to the point where i gave up playing there, but in all my time playing with them i have never seen a Yuriko ever win. Its always the same " i play an evasive creature and hit you" and then someone casts thassas's oracle demonic consultation followed by a free coutnerspell battle and someone wins before the Yuriko player does anything
>>92602679Sure.Here's a primer it was the third option when I googled it.https://www.moxfield.com/decks/PdktfhYDMEe-wyQ-k25vZA/primer
>>92603419I only board wipe if I have nothing else or I know someone is gonna win next turn if they untapI remember one game where I had a ton of tokens on board with blood artist and someone tried to board wipe me and when I went to resolve my blood artist triggers he said he forgot she was there and tried to take the board wipe back, then I pinged him for 18 and killed him Some people think board wipes are the only answer to things no matter the situation
>>92603386I split my tasha into two>>92601302
>>92603451See that's why you're a moron. Yuriko is able to do Thoracle Consultation.
>>92601418Judging by the name, "Ulalek" seems like a combination of Ulamog and Kozilek.
>>92603435I assumed most groups proxied everything because I couldn't imagine buying like 10 playsets of all the duals and moxes and such for every deck
>>92603467Yeah, so is any other UB deck that is running actual good cards instead of trying to attack with ninjas for no reason.
>>92603475Ulakek
>>92603430Just explicitly play it as a high power casual deck.>opponent wants to play KorvoldAight, breaking out Yuriko>Koma player shows upAight, breaking out Yuriko >Someone wants to try VojaAight, breaking out YurikoIt's not pubstomping if most of the table is playing degenerate shit. Reminds me that I need to find room in my list for OTJ Satoru.
>>92603467I was about to say, isn't that yurikos main wincon aside from hitting big mana things off the top
>>92603476Typically you only one have real card of each and just make one cedh at a time
cedh is an embarrassing joke of a "format" played exclusively by people who aren't skilled enough to play proper 60 card formats
>>92603502this but card games in general instead of something actually competitive
>>92603481>for no reasonFree card advantage or repeatable drain through top, Brainstorm and/or scroll rack.
>>92603516Its funny how this is always the cedhfag response. You mention how their format is for retards who were filtered from the other formats and their anwer is always some form of "w-well actually MTG just sucks in general anyways!!"
>>92603502True and based
>>92603523I dont play cedh, but if you take magic seriously you are a fucking loser
>>92603386>G access to help ramp into the nastier steal effects>Universes Beyond for extra seethingThe answer seems obvious to me
>>92603532>>Universes Beyond for extra seethingYou guys do realize this is a meme that only exists here right? Literally nobody gives a shit if you play with UB cards, i've seen them a ton of times at my LGS and nobody cares. Its a meme that only exists on 4chan
>>92603502It's all the same format. If the rc wanted to actually balance it they would have a much larger ban list. Unironically wotc taking over the format would be a net positive
>>92603502This really hit home after that video of someone in a cedh pod getting ass blasted and going off about muh honor because his opponent casted Silence, said "I probably don't have a line" so nobody countered it, and then won.
>>92603502EDH killed all of the proper 60 card formats. Realize the absurdity that Modern Horizons 3, a whole set made for Modern, has 4 commander decks and ZERO Modern decks. The card on the booster pack is a creature version of Ajani. The fat pack features a creature version of Tamiyo. cEDH is the sin EDH must bare for strangling 60 card competitive.
>>92603386If you really really wanna piss people off with mill, you go the extra mile and play Jeleva exile mill. Easily over half the people don't understand that they usually don't see half their library anyway and they can get really pissy when they see cards in exile that they wanted to play.
>>92603386Mill is legitimately a great litmus test for your group's level of inteligence. Every time i mill some dude for 20 cards and the 19th card is his hecking epic win con and he cries about how he would have won if i didn't mill it i just know he's an actual retard
>>92603594I did that to an ur dragon player, I genuinely thought I was gonna make him cry, Everytime something good got killed he got angrier and angrier, I milled a bunch of his fast mana and apparently he only played like 25 lands, I ended up killing him when I made him mill until he hit a basic land, and he instantly got up and yelled he plays no basic lands and scooped the stormed away from the table
>>92603564pff this is just proof commander is the superior format
>>92603519I really don't know what kind of cedh you're playing, but the one i'm experienced with has people tutoring turns 1-2 with fast mana and going for a win turns 3 or 4 every single game. You either keep a hand with adnaus/tutor and coutnerspells or you mulligan else you're losing
>>92603553To be honest I would kind of like to see a massive update to the banlist where they ban like 20+ cards at once>Jeweled Lotus>Mana Crypt>Thassa's Oracle>Dockside>Cradle>Ad Naus>Kinnan>Cyclonic Rift>Underworld Breach>Rhystic Study>etc
>stop making any kind of preconstructed pack for 60 card decks for years>Put out 2-4 precons for commander literally every set>Hmmm I wonder why players aren't interested in other formats?I hate Wizards marketing team.
>>92603564We've already seen the flip walkers get leaked
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>>92603669Anon, that's what I was saying. In the new Modern set, a set that is not specifically made for EDH, has its advertising primarily about famous planeswalkers in flipwalker form so you can run them in EDH.
>>92600551I run kardur in every deck that allows him.>now fight for my entertainment
>>92603667To be fair, 60 card modern decks wouldn't work very well since the price point for them to be actually worth using would have to be huge. Commander is primarily a casual format so they can get away with releasing decks with shitty manabases and not optimizing every card in the deck. Most precons made nowadays are good enough to do OK in your average LGS pod out of box even if they're not as good as the same deck with a full set of fetches and shocklands. But that wouldn't really work in modern due to it being a much more competitive format so for a modern precon to serve as anything other than a tutorial deck to teach people how to play the format they would need to include an optimized manabase and all the best cards for the deck archetype, which would make the deck so expensive players new to the format would be unlikely to want to spend that much money on it.
>>92602892Why'd they get rid of all the drinks?
>>92603386Eriette, the Beguiler so you get access to white’s Silence shit, tax effects, and land destruction. Or just have Oloro big dicking in the command zone kek
I have no fucking clue what to build
>>92603773>the price point for them to be actually worth using would have to be huge.No, printing a fetch land costs exactly the same as printing a basic land. They just want to maintain the toxic synergy between the primary and secondary markets because that way they can keep leeching money off from unhinged autistic trannies and incel whales while putting zero effort into designing and creating new cards.
>>92603725You realise the Origins flipwalkers were liked quite a lot in constructed play, too? It's hearkening back to them.
>>92603892Hit https://scryfall.com/random until you find a card that activates your almonds.
>>92598695This is what the guy at my table has used.I wonder if they'll ban the cunt before she has 30000 decks on edhrec
>>92601418I see they got the same guy who takes pictures of ghosts and UFOs
>>92601942>15 dollarsNo thanks
>>92602755>REEEE MUH UB REEE DO I FIT INGive it a fucking rest you annoying faggot.
>when you mill people out by forcing them to draw their entire deckAny pleasure, when taken to excess, becomes torment
>>92603482Emrazozzle
>>92603564WotC killed all the 60 card formats, stop blaming EDH for their greed fueled decisions.
What are some flavorful fun decks I can build? I’m currently building a sakashima + vial slasher deck, it’s using the SLD cards and being housed in a gremlins VHS case with a “slasher movie” mat to give off a campy horror feel at the table when I pull it out. Kind of want to build a Jurassic park deck next and get a safari hat to wear when playing it
>>92601942eh, there's enough board wipes that are more one sided or versatile in white alone that I wouldn't slot this in if I had one
>playing with spergy kid of undiscernible race>constantly needing to correct his "misplays" >he casts stitch in time>he flips a coin for heads>"oh nice i got heads!" >literally shows no one and puts the coin away>"uhhh buddy you gotta show the result you cant just put it away and not show anyone">"but i got heads!" >keeps trying to argue about it>50/50 chance he got heads so its entirely possible he did but you cant just fucking conceal the result>tell him to flip again and show the result>he gets mad>flips the coin>it goes tails this time>"man this is fucking bullshit!" >he instantly scoops and packs up his shittell me about your lgs cheaters
>>92604307I hope you didn't build the whole thing reading it as "vial slasher"
>>92604307>Kind of want to build a Jurassic park deck next and get a safari hat to wear when playing ityeah dont do that>>92604368kek
>>92604387yooo where'd you get that from boss
>>92604387sex
>>92604368Kek no, mistype. The SLD card kind of fits the theme though, and more importantly the blasphemous act SLD fits it. Just want some themed decks to add a little color to the table.
>>9260438740 dollar rare
>>92604307if the flavor you were going for was goyslop you nailed it
>>92604424Nice meme word.
>>92604307Yuck
>>92604387you know it's shit cause everyone plays blue anyway
>>92604443terrible deflection, do you store your decks next to your funko pops you fat fucking slob
>>92604387>more legless merfolkmmmmmyeeesssss
>>92604482Don't use meme words if you want people to take you seriously.
>>92604424>>92604453What do you fat fucking niggers have against light flavor? Your Cheezit covered black box and cum encrusted sleeves at not allowed at my table faggots
>>92604545Take a shower.
>>92604510Explain to me what a memeword is
>>92604571Generally retarded words with no meaning that get pushed and popularized solely on this site. Can you define goyslop then also explain why you named it that? Doubt it.
>>92604545>you can't play at my imaginary table with my le reddit decks Hilarious
>>92604581Goyslop is what makes you the flabby lil boy you are, all that yummy yummy mcdonalds slop, your decks are the equivalent to that, consumer bait trash and you've fallen for it.
>>92604605Nice memes.
>>92604581Here you go son>Low quality entertainmentNailed it on the dot
>>92604635Can you explain how these cards are made by da jewz?
>>92604670Nta, but the Head Designer is literally jewish, so the other anon's not wrong about that.
>>92604688He's not involved in most Commander products though.
>>92604363>pay for a spot a day in advance >arrive the day of the game>my spot is already being occupied>tell him to move>"bro the game is about to start I'm already here you should have gotten here earlier please let me play">fuck no>he is pissed but does go away>turns out two of the guys in my pod are friends with the guy who tried to take my spot (again, that I had to pay for) and are now pissed at me>they target me down within a few turns >pretty annoyed I spent money and two hours of my Saturday to get hated out by two fat sweaty fucks>turns out the guy that tried to take my spot was standing behind me the entire time; I'm 100% sure he was giving info on my hand>complain to guy at the desk>"can you prove it?"turns out he was also friends with the three chucklefucks and had no interest in stopping his friends from cheating. I wish I could say that the store is now closed or whatever, but that was nearly four years ago and they only seem to be expanding. fuck them anyway.
>>92604587>>92604559Nah, in fact I think I’ll double down on it and just make every card in the deck alt art even if it doesn’t fit the theme just to make you retards heads explode
>>92604742>Take a shower>NahThat's all I needed to see, have fun stinky boy
>>92604742Absolutely based
>>92604742>>92604753>Almost exactly minute apart Kek
>>92604766?
>>92604781>4chanx to show you aren't a samefagLul
>>92604781>>92604807AHAHAHAHA
>>92604424Do you only watch indie dramas and art house films?
>>92604781
>>92604387oh hell yes I'm putting this in inalla
>>92604826are you looking for someone to go with you to a marvel movie anon?
>>92604729You have to pay to play casuals at locals? Or was this prerelease or something
>>92604729take the MLD pill anon, make them suffer
>>92604846No, I was just curious what kind of entertainment you like if you seem to shun movies like Gremlins and Jurassic Park as "goyslop".
>>92601418So Ulamog and Kozilek fused?
>>92602568Entomb to tutor any goyf to the battlefield. Not much but it's spicy
>>92604915I think he was talking about the deck.
What happens if I have harbinger of the seas and magus on the moon on the field?
>>92605006timestamp, whichever one entered the battlefield most recently takes priority.
>>92605013What if they enter at the same time?
>>92605021Turn priority.
>>92605021you choose which one takes precedence as they enter, it never changes unless one of them is removed.
>>92604807You were wrong. Take the L
Ugin and Nicol sitting in a treeK I S S I N G
>>92605173illegal
>>92602568Fascinating so Omo bascially makes simic gates a thing as previously they were 1 gate short. Plus this means thespian's stage and vesuva can be turned into gates which you were going to use on maze's end anyway. Also means extra turn spells are ways to convert more lands into gates.
>>92601471>make an Eldrazi commander deck for 5c>leaked Eldrazi are all colorlessJustice for my drones and processors.
>>92596771alright, i need a list. i am that guy who shows up to the shop to play shit like chaos in "sanctioned" events at the shop. i am the reason why chaos decks got banned there, which was funny as hell. i refused to short cut any shit where i copied chaos spells, which made everything take forever
>>92605260>The moment Ugin realized Bolas is a villain was the moment he realized Bolas loved himWhat did WotC meme by this?
>>92601518What are some good cards for an aggro land deck? Don’t have a lot of cards that make lands attack. Got a decklist?
>>92605523you should just play mobas or other cancer where you can hold people hostage
>>92605639if people are okay with you playing your gay boring infinite combos, im going to play something on par with it.
>>92601942It's a powercrept Rout, and I have always respected a well timed Rout.
>>92605676Though at the same mana cost of rout, you either get a boardwipe that leaves a targeted creature of yours behind, or a boardwipe that can kill indestructible shit too. Not to mention the potential for getting both, or for it to be one of three combat tricks. It is a REALLY good card.
>>92605675>someone presents an infinite>everyone accepts the loss and moves to the next game if theres no responseyou seem like the kind of person who went to my old shitty locals
>>92605555I haven't put it online yet, but manlands isn't a bad idea. My deck is basically Simic value with a few different wincons, for example, I run pickles lock. I just put the deck together from the cards I had, I only bought Bonny and Keruga. It's mostly an excuse to run some of my more expensive cards, but if I were to optimize, I probably should cut shit like Mind's Dilation and the blue Cavalier.
>>92605781>everyone now has to spend a bunch of time shuffling and starting a new gameit would be different if it took maybe 2 minutes, but most people take forever and it becomes a 10-15 minute process. your combo deck is making me waste time every time you go infinite with it
>>92605523How do you even find games at your shop if you are such a massive prick they banned an entire deck?
>>92605788Laaaame. I’m transforming my aesi landfall deck into a combat focused land deck, hoping for greatness.
>>92605797So your decision is to waste even more time?
Do you play Commander with your gf?
>>92605839if time is going to be wasted by the infinite combo player, i might as well have a laugh while adding to it. time is going to be wasted regardless by the boring retard playing shit like mikaeus + triskelion every game. i can at least go home happy knowing that i ruined that guy's night
>>92605811it was a joke deck that i didnt expect them to take seriously until i cast 7 copies of thieves auction that i refused to short cut through the copies for.
>>92605827What do you mean by lame? I don't want to hear that from someone who played Aesi of all things. I just converted it from Brenard, since he wasn't fun even with my fringe idea, so I just decided to slap together a simic ramp deck with a restriction and I'm just running cards that I like and cards I can't feasibly run elsewhere.
>>92605797everyone i play with, if they even have infinites they merely explain how the loop is done and then ask if anyone has interaction, then if it resolves we take the Lbut i have a group of friends i play with and even the randoms at my locals are cool
>>92605873You're most likely ruining the night of other people playing too. Just play more interaction if you hate combo so much. No reason to fight cancer with another type of cancer.
>>92605858You're expecting people to ask "Girlfriend?" but you're gonna get more "Play Commander?"s
>>92605914um anon, removal is for tryhards
>>92605884So you're just insufferable. There's almost no reason to not shortcut Thieves Auction, but in case of ETBs, sure.Just play more interesting slow play stuff like Chaos Warp + Radiate
>>92605889Don’t be upset, anon, it’s lame that you don’t have a list.
>>92605914>You're most likely ruining the night of other people playing too.their nights were already being ruined by the waste of time that is playing any games with the infinite combo player>Just play more interactionlet me magically have a hand full of answers every time i need them. ill just make a deck of 1/3 lands and 2/3 answers>No reason to fight cancer with another type of cancerfight fire with fire
>>92605884I would just leave the table because you clearly were only playing to annoy people and waste their time.
I aint never met a fun person who plays Simic/Selesnya
>>92605894maybe it is the attitude of infinite combo players that pisses me off the most. about every single one of them in my area is very smug and arrogant about playing the tee ball method to win games. i probably wouldnt care too much if they all didnt think they were gods for being able to play a combination of two cards in such a boring way. i succeed in other parts of my life, so i dont need to be the screaming 400 pound guy with no shower for weeks smell who talks big about winning in the easiest way possible
>>92606020I've only got one simic deck that I play with any frequency but most people I played with seemed to enjoy it at least a little.
>>92606020I play Selesnya and I've been told that I'm pretty fun!Simic is boring though...
>>92605959"no"
>Combos are boring>Tribal is boring >Value Piles are boring>Voltron is boring>Stax is boring>Superfriends is boring>Commander Synergy is boring>Group Hug is boringIs there anything that we can agree on that definitely isn't boring?
>>92605873The infinite combo player always will explain how the loop works and then everyone will concede.What wastes time is a storm player not knowing how to play their deck so you actually have to wait to see if you even die.You play troll decks against specific people. I played pure permeant removal once solely to teach the person who takes advantage of no mass land destruction by just running all the degenerate utility lands or playing group slug so the pillow fort player can't cry that you are unfairly targeting him because you are hitting everyone at once
>>92606020That's because they're powergamers that play the colors and not the guilds. Ravnican-blocks Selesnya and Simic are nothing to complain about.
>>92605858Yes anon, I play commander with my hands.
>>92606054Poison because everyone immediately starts freaking out.I don't think there is such a thing as a calm game with poison
>>92605973Ah, fair. Sorry for making assumptions. I've just been procrastinating, but the main thing why I didn't put it online yet, is because I'm considering it sort of WIP, I literally threw the thing together the night before I played with it, and I have a few cards I would want to slot in.I did win the game I played, when I cast Echoing Equation, which I slotted for another reason, but I ended up with 9 Bonnies and attacked with all 6 that could attack, drew 54 cards and I put maybe 26 lands on the field, 22 being untapped.
>>92606003that's fine. the combo player is there to annoy people, but your brain just associates it different. the combo deck is an apple, and my deck is an apple.
>>92596665I wish there were more in Green so I could set them aside for a big Aeve storm count
>>92605989You're assuming that everyone else has problems with combos. The others clearly had problem with your shit considering they wanted to shortcut, and your shit got banned too. At that point it should be obvious that you're the bigger problem.
>>92606075infect is always funny
>>92606055yeah, i dont just pull out my combo deck for no reason. i only really pull it out when i find someone really annoying that i am playing with. i find it annoying for the game to just end randomly with such an unsatisfying conclusion that you get from playing vs infinite combos, so i aim to make their experience as unsatisfying as possible.
>>92606075Even something as light as snake tribal will get people sweating. Poison only becomes a valid win con if you get beat in the face five times by a 2/1.
>>92606105>assuming i am not assuming. i speak to people once the infinite combo player leaves, and most players complain once that person and other combo players arent around. my deck was played to send a message, but i wouldnt expect some self righteous combo players to recognize it.
>>92604387Aaaaaaa stop giving every effect to blue for fuck's sake!
>>92606163Again, you're fighting against cancer with cancer. You get your message better across if you play a strip mine crucible loop against the annoying player or some abzan removal toolbox deck and you use the pieces to fuck over the specific player. Of course the other players won't say to your face that they found your antics annoying too, but they're thinking about it. You're just overly vindictive.
>>92606038You dropped this
>>92606286classic
>>92606038Are you fun to play against or are you fun because of the services you provide during and/or after the games?
>>92606054group slug
why is mono blue so boring?
I was looking through some Cedh decks to get some ideas. Why is Dismember in them? Surely there's better black removal spells.
>>926067111 generic mana for -5 toughness at instant speed is very strong.
>>92606711>Costs (1)>-5 is enough to kill basically any creature that matters in cEDH>Instant speed>cmc 3 so beats Mental Misstep>Technically beats indestructible but that barely matters in cEDHIt's still not very good but I guess it's an option.
>>92604729You didn't notice him behind you the whole time?And why not just take a different spot? Were there none available or did you want that pod specifically?
>>92606711Because it's only 1 generic and instant speed.
>>92606286Fuck you. Trostani is actually fun.>>92606456My friends say I'm really scrappy and can take a lot of punishment. I also don't cry about things and I generally compliment their decks and plays!
>>92606959Why are you pretending to be a faggot rn? On a fucking MTG subreddit of all things
>>92607147Gb2redditHow am I pretending to be a faggot? Selesnya has a bad rep because it's "gay" but it's not. It's really fun. dimir is the actual tranny color
If they made a Mat'Selesyna creature to milk Ravnica even harder than it's already been, what would you like it to do? Obviously Convoke is going to be slapped onto it, but I personally would like it have something that either end-step Populates a number of times equal to the differently named creature tokens you control. Alternatively, (trigger warning) an Eminence that says every creature that's tapped for a Convoke cost gains you 1 life, but on the battlefield it also lets you put up to that many +1/+1 counters on either what was cast or the tapped creatures.
>>92605858>tfw my gf introduced me to magic>tfw when I got too good and she dosent want to play magic with me anymore
>>92607318Sissylesnya Arch-Faggot1WGGLegendary Creature - Elf Dryad ClericSpells you own have convoke.Whenever you cast a green spell, create a 1/1 green Saproling creature token. Whenever you cast a white spell, populate.3/5
OFFICIAL 3-COLOR POWER RANKINGS:>Sultai, God intended the GY to be the second hand>Temur, because I simply will make my board untouchable>Grixis, because Nicol Bolas would be sad if I rated this any lower>Jund, earning this position by simply being honest>Jeskai, carried hard on the back of Zedruu>Bant, it's anything but banter with this color combination>Naya, for obvious reasons>Abzan, for obvious reasons>Mardu, for obvious reasons>Esper, no explanation required
>>92607441I'd play the shit out of that!
>>92607472>No explanations for bottom 5This ranking is wrong.
>>92607486Bottom 5 all contain the color with Rule of Law, Silence, Drannith Magistrate, and Armageddon.
>>92607472looks like someone got booty blasted by zur
>>92607496Armageddon is based, greentard
>>92602568Pretty fucking bold to post this given what happened to the last guy
>>92607496Those cards are all based as fuck
>>92607550lmao
>>92607472Esper at the bottom means you are pants on head retarded and not worth listening too.
>>92607565Cry all you want. At the end of the day you'll still be an esper player.
>>92607472The best is grixis and it's not even close.
>>92607572>cry all you want, you'll still have an above average winrate
>>92607590Yeah maybe at the kitchen table where people don't run enchantment removal.
>>92607593Enchantments? Blue/Black has the easiest instawin combos, Black/White has the best removal, and White/Blue has the best counterspells.
>>92607640and Green/Red has the most fun
>>92607441Yeah, that fits well enough.>>92607472My man hating W just because it exists, damn.
>>92607664>esper hater is a gruultranny
>>92607664fun doesn't matter since the talk wasn't about fun
>>92607593>he says while listing sultai as top and doing it because "graveyard"Your deck folds to a black land drop.
>>926077781-mana blue spell
>>92607783Is your argument "I'll counter it"? Because that also works for esper, which has U/W counters available like dovin's veto.
>>926077870-mana blue spell
>>92607640>Color is good because it has>Way to not play the game>Way to not play the game>Way to not play the gameThanks for confirming
Esper is cool because it has sphinxes, and sphinxes are cool
>>92607831Seethe more, I'm almost there
>>92607472Objectively correct 3c tier list:>Top TierGrixisSultaiTemur>High TierEsperBant>Mid TierJundJeskaiAbzan>Low TierNayaMardu
>>92608007As a Naya enjoyer... correct, my decks are hot trash. Even my Voja deck is just Wolf Tribal padded with elves, I just want to make the angry doggos do a monch with their elf friends.
>>92606054spellslinger and burn
>>92606054brothers yamazaki clones but with no rule zeroescyclinggrandeurnondeterministic creature stormsacrificing all of your lands and ramping back up to match the green player in the same turncreating token copies of things that shouldn't be token copiescards that care about cards with the same name like pic related
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>>92608231I only agree as long as you don't mean "Xcc, X=lethal, with a counterspell" is the win con. At that point you might as well run a two-card infinite.
