Pro Tour Modern Horizons 3 Edition▶Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/june-24-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcementhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/pauper-bans-for-june-6-2024▶Official News:Magic: The Gathering publisher hires Pinkerton to seize leaked cards from YouTuber’s househttps://www.dicebreaker.com/categories/trading-card-game/news/magic-the-gathering-aftermath-youtube-prompts-pinkerton-investigation▶Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES▶Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/▶Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES▶Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES▶Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/▶Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM▶Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/▶What is E D H?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1▶Previously>>93173238>TQAre you watching the PT tomorrow? Any predictions?
Fun fact if you don't have Revolt you can Push your own Nadu to get a trigger.
Boo!!!
it will be on at FNM and I will hopefully remember to watch it at home too>any predictions?something with a relatively small turnout is going to run away with it, like a 6 decks or less archetype>>93182229yes anon we all know how fatal push works, you can target anything and it checks if it dies on resolution
>>93182235The fuck is impending, some suspend variant?
>>93182272will probably be 'put it onto the board as a not-creature' to get the etb effect and it becomes a creature after the notsuspend timer is done
>>93182244t'was destiny
>>93182217APOLOGIZE
Apologize NOW!
>>93182299>>93182301There's going to be unfathomable deck in the Black Burn deck at this PT if people were already going as far as Soul Spike.
>>93182217Which bet should we bet anons? My inner timmy want to see the honest Eldrazi to take this PT
>>93182299Great minds think alike necro anon >>93182301, whats your list look like?
>>93182299>>93182301Why? Among the pack trailing behind Nadu, Black Scam has been one of the larger archetypes. Were people thinking Scam got rotated?
>>93182313Sorin, Grief, Bowmasters and Sheoldred with Necro, removal and some burn
I'll pump Amalia in response
https://twitter.com/MTGOjeda/status/1806354627308175574
Modernfags are crying about rotation but i wish Pioneer could rotate as hard as Modern at least with this meta
>>93182373>downticks sorin>move Veinripper to the field Response?
>>93182235MORE SPOILERS, NEVER STOP I WANT NEW CARDS DAILY, MORE MORE MORE!
>>93182373so MH are actually very good and the best way to keep a format healthynice to knowMH legal in pioneer when
>>93182400a new set every monthwhy is duskmourn even fucking coming out in goddamn september and not spooky season
>>93182400Your wishWotC command lul
I despise the Boros Energy deck more than anything. It's like playing vs some retard's custommtg deck. I will be rooting for (God forgive me) Tron.
>>93182420AI is getting better but not quite there yet
>Affinity prices all crashing down>deck can be built for like $290At this rate Ill probably just build affinity and attend FNM to gatekeep wins every other week.
>>93182373to anyone still wondering how modern horizons 1 was allowed to happen, look at this post>>93182406pioneer horizons is happening before the end of this decade I can promise you that
>>93182423Me too, energy is complete cancer to play against
>>93182420>>93182412WHAT ABOUT THE COMMANDER SPOILERS? NO SIDE PRODUCTS? WHAT ABOUT A NEW CONSPIRACY? I NEEEEEED MOOOOOORE!
>>93182432>end of this decadewhy not just make MH pioneer legal? as long as they keep fetchlands out the formats will be vastly different tehee
OKAY GAYLORDS TIME TO PLACE YOUR BETS ON WHAT DECKS WILL BE IN THE PRO TOUR FINALS WHILE ALSO LETTING US COLLECTIVELY SEE HOW GOOD THIS THREAD IS AT ASSESSING HOW GOOD SHIT IShttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAgahttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAgahttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAga
phlage is maybe my favorite modern creature ever if I'm honest
>>93182312>>93182423I'm here just to sayBANZAI NADU!!!WIN NADU AND AVOID THE BAN!!!BANZAI NADU!!!
>>93182451picking these two because they are my current decks
>>93182469I was wondering what fag picked Goryo's. Desu Phlage is legendary.
>>93182475I cant believe some retard dare to pick SSS
>People picking the current #1 meta deck plus NaduCouldn't be lamer if you tried.
What happened to mono blue tempo in pioneer? Why was Delver not ever a deck in pioneer?
Free him.
>>93182451merfolk
>>93182484I want those decks gutted which is why I voted for them
>>93182483That was me, SSS + Mardu were my picks. Probably RG SSS just to pack extra Boseijus for Shuko.
>>93182490>What happened to mono blue tempo in pioneer?you mean blue spirits?>Why was Delver not ever a deck in pioneer?no topdeck manipulation
GLIMPSE OF NATURE LITERALLY DID NOTHING WRONG. THE FIELD RUNS OBM ANYWAY UNBAN PL0S
>>93182217Can you imagine how fucked it is to track Nadu in paper? Looking forward to all the on-camera judge calls this weekend.
>>93182517>no topdeck manipulationAre you not aware that even in Legacy most Delver flips are/were blind?
>>93182483modern newfag here, what's SSS?
>>93182484I vote to win anon not to make some.shit up. Nadu will be in the finals and in my opinion Mardu too. Is the best you can make in the format right now
>>93182517>spiritsNo, like Djins and pteromanders
I just came back to Arena after 3 years absent, and I have 60 rare wildcards, and 40 mythic wildcards. It's hard to get back into standard because I don't have any cards aside from Outlaws, and it's hard to get into Explorer since it seems to be dominated by Kamigawa which I don't have.What format should I craft towards? Standard, Explorer, Historic, Timeless? Of course I'll wait until after rotation though, but wanted to see what people say.The argument towards timeless could be that sure I would probably delete all my wildcards through two decks but in theory those decks will last longer... But again another Modern Horizons 3 could rotate it further. Explorer, at least I have a lot of M21 standard era cards so I'm not starting from scratch. Brawl... Well I just don't care about it if it's not 4 player.
>>93182522Bertocini must be livid he can't play pro Magic anymore.
>>93182420what is this and why it looks like some Yugi card?
>>93182526SlickShot Showoff
Jim said he brought some bullshit and hopes he doesn't piss of his team when it goes 0-10, what deck do you think it is?
>>93182558MH2 tribal.
>>93182451Mardu vs Tron because it's Modern
>>93182373You don't want this. You think you do, but you don't.
>>93182557Makes sense. I'm surprised it isn't just played in ruby storm, is it too redundant?
>>93182523I don't know about delver lists of the past, but current legacy delver runs like 20 cards that can control the top card of your deck, and the other reason delver is playable there is because of how much free interaction and efficient removal you get to play,I think if pioneer had good topdeck manipulation delver would be playable, but not nearly as good as legacy delver is because of all the other cards we are missing>>93182541it doesn't line up well against the most common forms of interaction in the format like fatal push and thoughtseize
>>93182526The /other/ birb
>>93182552Japanese alt-art showcase thing for Duskmourn. Apparently they're gonna be going for 10 of those alt-arts per set going forward, because... Japanese alt-art is popular.
>>93182592Delver's problem in Pioneer is the lack of other good threats, and not having Lightning Bolt.
>>93182552jap artists only make stuff that looks like thati think they used a lot of artists from force of will this set
>>93182600Theyre just getting ready for final fantasy. They got actual jap pixiv artists on board now.
>>93182583Basically just doesn't fit into the game plan. DRC has the upside of surveiling. SSS is just a Grapeshot that the opponent can kill as far as a storm deck is concerned.
>>93182634Ruby Storm has the Twiddle effect of not really presenting you with targets for your removal. Medallion isn't a creature, and Ral can drop and flip in the same turn at instant speed. If your opponent takes out their removal they're leaving themselves wide open to huge slapdowns from SSS.
>>93182217>this was 6 years agodamn
>>93182653What's the situation where you can stick a SSS and deal meaningful damage with it, but you can't just storm off instead?
>>93182717SOVL
>that one madlad with nethergoyf deckWhat the fuck? How do these retards get into protour?Literally pic rel
>>93182758Sometimes in Eternal formats is best to go with what you are familiar with... In Modern, land of bullshit, is a bols move thought
>>93182344Retards here thought necro was a bad card in modern./tg/ is really not good at magic
>>93182758Element of suprise?
>>93182217Conversion rate after forst day?
>>93182785It's the same as everything else in MH3 where people said it was amazing, then they said it was shit, and then they say it's amazing again. It's the third fucking Modern Horizons set and people still haven't learned that we're not gonna know for sure how the meta's gonna shake out until the set's been out for a little while.
>>93182839We'll let you know after the first day.
>>93182844>>93182785Necro IS a bad card in Modern.Wait a month after the craze dies down.
>>93182869Necro is the single best draw spell in Modern. It's not actually close.
>>93182869>Anon retarded take/mtgg/ at its finest
>>93182869>t retard
>>93182869Why don't you wait a month before trying to call it? You could be right, but we don't really know how things are gonna look when things settle down.
>>93182366Fuck I wish I could
>>93182544There's always the Standard RDW option, you can run it with Slickshot Showoff being your only rare
>>93182544Standard rotatesPioneer queues are insanely long and meta is obnoxious Historic is faster, decks are more diverse but also as degenerate if not moreI wouldn't craft shit except maybe manabases that are evergreen
>>93182922sexo con Doña Aguirre
>>93182217>Jeskai conrol
>>93182922>The pubes poking out of the leotardNone of these thoughts are in the bible
>>93182960>>93182922Pubes on a white girl are so disgusting not gonna lie
why do they print cards like Obeka into Standard instead of just doing a dedicated Commander set for them?
>>93182979As opposed to pubes on a non-white?
>>93182991Yes
>>93182988Because they want EDH players buying Standard packs in addition to buying dedicated EDH products
>>93182988because they want commander players to buy every product so they put commander cards into everything
>>93182960>Philippians 4:8 >Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.This do it for me
>>93182996I don't see how it's all that different
>>93183002>>93183003bastard jews
>>93183002>>93183003This. The last two Standards set were ruined moreover for the absolute incompetence of these retards at design, write and bring to life an interesting set but specially because they are so obssesed with the fake magic group they feel an obligation to put ten thousand random legendaries, 0 interesting or weird mechanics and a complete lack of effort in card/lore design. Our last hope for 2024 is BLB and things are already looking grim
>>93183009For asian chicks : hotAnyother race : ehh
>>93183012Glad you're finally caught up
>>93183009there are unkown lenghts to avoid fucking a white girl
>>93182922Alt art is the top cute for me
I know that this LGS-dependent, but how many people run meta vs rogue decks/brews on average? I've only played on arena and I'm curious
>>93183089Rogue decks are a lie, everyone want to win
>>93183089We don't really have that kind of data outside of tournaments, which obviously favors meta decks above experimentation.
>>93183089I played Modern at my LGS last week and I foughtRound 1: some incredibly wild As Foretold brewRound 2: Mono U MerfolkRound 3: Dice FactoryI saw someone playing Prime Time, someone playing Affinity, someone else also had a Murktide deck on them. Everyone was basically just playing their favorite Modern deck or something wild. Shit, the Prime Time player brought a janky Hollow One deck to fuck around with before the event.People in paper tend to play decks they like over meta, but we do still try and tune them to be as good as possible.
>>93182912It's an evaluation. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. But even after having it seen in action it looked underwhelming to me.Now Legacy is a different thing.>>93182882>>93182889>>93182901Call me when it wins something. I get the feeling in a few days' time you will be proven the retards.
>>93183089They exist. Theres a girl at my fnm who brings goblins every week. She just wants to play goblins.Yes, i have indeed lost to her snoop combo before. Never again kill this fuck on sight
>>93183124No one tell him Mono black necro won the Hareyuya West tourney
>>93183145>Japanlollmao
>>93183145I've seen so many janky decks win that thing it's insane
>>93183166>We are still playing in Standard with Takashi card a world champion>JapaneseAnon?
>>93183212The truth is that janky decks can win in Modern just fine, it's just that in the west players refuse to have fun and will only netdeck, spawning metagame snapshots containing very few decks.
>>93183124When I've seen it, it seems pretty strong. It's still doing all the usual scam bullshit, but also some games it lands the necro and they just never run out of cards and can snipe you with Soul Spike out of nowhere. I'm not saying it's unstoppable, but it doesn't seem straight up bad like you're saying.
I'm actually VERY surprised that the Mono B decks don't run Collective Brutality. It flips Sorin, disrupts your opponent, and benefits greatly from Necro refilling your hand.
>>93183227When Soulspike is the best you can do you know it's pretty underwhelming kek
>>93183145>*blocks your path*Merfolk is the real T0 deck, get out with that rare draft chaff
I was inspired by that post earlier and am now trying to brew Obeka in Standard. There are basically only 2 possible payoffs for it lol. Generous Plundered and Laughing Jasper Flint.
>>93183307Could go kinda hard with the extra combat spree card desu
>>93183242Thats the thing, soul spike and march are good because they pitch cards and are isntants, so you overdraw and then pitch before discard. Pitching main phase 1 sucks with a 5 card hand.Youd rather play the march, or thoughtseize, or spike you may pitch to it
>>93183306>runs toxic deluge mainboardHeh, nothing personal kid
>>93183324Train Heist? I've been basically trying to bypass having to play Obeka at all at the minute. Discarding her with Inti and then committing a crime to turn Lazav into her once opponent doesnt bother blocker. Even does more damage than normal Obeka so you get extra upkeeps. I do like the train heist though, even for just the ability to make treasures that help Plunderer get the win too.
>>93183342Sack tideshaper for Flare of DenialAny responses?
>>93183342>killing yourself through 6 free countersthanks for doing my job for me
>>93183307There's far more than that, even phyrexian arena is in standard.
>>93183342>flare of denial>force of negation>hexcatcherok cool man good try
>all these butthurt postersAt least wait to see how much Birb's decks dominate the PT this weekend. You cunts are the most defeatist bunch of sooks I've ever encountered - it used to he that people wouldn't even try to beat a strong new deck they'd just try to have it banned out of existence , but now you're calling for a deck to be banned before you even know if it's good
>>93183342Imagine trying this against counter fishlandLolLmao even
>>93183365I was thinking of the plunderer angle with train heist, making a bunch of treasures then getting an additional combat for him to attack (again) to burn your opponent out
Reminder that Treasure Cruise also needs to be banned in Pioneer.
>>93183383The problem I'd expect to see with Dracosaur is that your opponent just wipes your board afterwards. You get all your upkeep triggers off, but often just don't get to use the shit you created.
>>93182235something about the border on the text combined with the weeb full art genuinely made me think you'd just posted a FoW card in this thread at first
>>93183431and sorinand amaliaand fable
>>93183432Like I said, there's more than that. Not going to claim they're good, but there's enough to meme with.
>>93182360Do you run any surveil lands or 'splashes'?Im trying a underground mortuary and a boseiju main with pick your poisons in the side
>>93183459what a meme
>>93183368>>93183376>>93183368>>93183376Fuck you fishies im gonna run this out of spite now
>>93183441Yep. Absolutely in agreement.
>>93182235these look like a bloomburrow cards. wth most of them even are animals. wasn't duskmourn supposed to be a horror set? what's with the cartoony look
>>93183512Yeah that's a great idea
>No changes to any format
>>93183530>>93183540magic is literally dyinglmao
>>93183534>commandingcheap shot
>>93183530I feel these are alt arts and the actual designs will be actually spooky, besides i have the impression these animal ghosts are the "benevolent" part of the horror house but the rest will go in the line of horrorand slasher protagonists
>>93183571>and the actual designs will be actually spookynow youre just being delusionalhasbro/wotc will never let anything remotely un-marketable pass againthe designs wont be cutesy but good art is basically gone
>>93183534FUCK YOU YOU DOUBLE FISHER
>>93183571they held back on the phyrexians because people got icked out, do you really think they'd actually let artists hit any good horror themes
>>93183089Most people who sink money into this game want to win. Online and LGS players are far more likely to be sweaty no fun tryhards vs kitchen table players.
>>93182235>>93183571These both look like they're from an anime card game. The Goat especially, though. That is some straight up modern Yugioh looking art.
>>93183609I think the artists might've done a lot of YGO or Pokemon TCG art. Not too familiar.
>>93183571>>93183545but why is the set symbol even a pretty foresty butterfly rather than some silence of the lambs moth?
Is affinity literally unironically bad right now?
>>93183630becauseshut up and buy it
>>93183609>>93183617The artist did Force of Will (the anime tcg)
>>93183638Its either just kept losing so theres no results, or its just old and busted vs the new hotness everyone is trying so no one wants to play it.I for one havent seen shit on MODO for affinity
>>93182235>>93183571was this not supposed to be a spooky set?
>>93183630It's more moth than butterfly by the shape of it. And it probably has to do with whatever the fuck this thing is.
Reminder to vote for the two decks you think will make the finals. Lets see how good /mtg/ really is at evaluating cards.https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAgahttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAgahttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAga
>He thought Bloomburrow would be goodAAAHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>93183654Alt arts probably lean more into surreal and 'fanciful' horror rather than the actual art.
>>93183291The best thing it does is still scamming.
Izzet or Jeskai Control? Jeskai looks stronger but I'm missing more of the pieces
>>93183691Only the Indian marking shills have posted that they think Bloomburrow will be good.
>>93182922>pillar of the formatmy dick can only get so hard
>>93183730Only Indian CHADS have posted that the KNOW that BloomKINO will literally save Magic
>mtg is dying when it's more profitable than ever/mtg/ logic
>>93183699Not at instant speed.
>>93183774Yes.
>>93183782Grief has never been instant speed?
>>93183774At what cost though?
>>93183774mtg is edh now
>>93183774>profit is important not quality or player retentionuhok
>>93183774>More profitable than everYeah, that's why they had all those staff cuts and why paper play is drying up all over the place. Thankfully none of that matters because they can keep hunting addicts and EDH whales and Arenababs forever while the rest of the game fucking shrivels up. At least they can until Hasbro finally collapses and drags WotC down with it.
>>93183774>profit is a reflection of vitalityUnironically I think you should drown yourself in a ditch because there's nothing left of you but marketing propaganda. You are not human.
I'm not sure how Nadu is supposed to be ok in any way
>>93183802Necrodominance is only good if you can do things at instant speed before you have to discard.
>>93183874uhjust fucking buy it okay
>>93183774logic that stems from players, yesnaturally, it confronts the corporative facetious profit driven narrative you just described
>>93183876what the fucknoit's also good to just draw 7 cards and craft your hand
>>93183874>Two card combo that wins the game on the spot if the opponent doesn't interrupt itAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE SAVE ME MARO!!!
>>93183874According to commander players, you just need to interact more
>>93183916Commander players also actively hate it
>>93183876What? That's only part of it. A big part of the power is that it might as well read "Your minimum and maximum hand size are the same". You can always draw a new hand at the end of the turn no matter how much pitching and discarding you're doing.
>>93183914>this card isn't ok to unban, we found out we can make more money printing pseudos of it at best, or just straight up better cards that don't have to compete with the likes of splinter twin
>>93183876>drawing too many cards is bad! Why? It just is okay!!!
>>93183946I've said it before and I'll say it again, WotC won't unban a weak card because they can just print a new better version and force you to buy new product.
>>93183913>>93183934It's shit if you have to wait time because you're going to lose life. It's only really good if you can win on the spot.>>93183947>look mom I'm projecting!
>>93183914This is bannedNadu, Grief, the Ring, Bowmasters and Phlage are fineAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>93183571Also these things apparently have the glimmer subtype. Whatever the fuck a glimmer is. As its not a spirit or incarnation or an avatar.
>>93183956Hey retard, why dont you want to draw 7 cards for 7 life? Did Grislebrand touch you in your nonos?
This is the average horror aet i expect in Duskmourn
>>93183966Lot of talk for someone in bowmaster range.
>>93183646That explains it. That shit was cutsie anime as fuck. Holy balls.
>>93183974have a qt spirit snek, instead :D
>>93183974>AAAAAAAAAAA TENTACLES AND EYEBALLS I'M GOING INSANEI don't know why anyone would expect anything different
>>93183979>march it for uhhhhhhhhh 12 gain 12
>>93184006Kinda sad to see the second ability isn't a keyword, would've been a cool set mechanic.
>>93183956your life doesnt matter unless it's at 0, thougheverjust dont go into bolt range buddyretard
>>93183954and they don't have to balance against cards like twin or pod, that might still make for better decks that they can't forcefully rotate
Imagine thinking Bowmasters will stop Necro when the deck runs Grief and Thoughtseize.
>>93184022You can say either though or however, we are all adults here.
>>93183974you are out of luck, boyo
>>93183979See, now that's a decent point. Necro on its own gets fucked sideways by Bowmaster. Ironically, however, the main decks playing Bowmasters at this point are Necro decks, which have the best answer to Bowmasters (i.e. playing their own Bowmasters).
>>93184035But I want to say the funny meme word
>>93184034>Imagine thinking Bowmasters will stop Necro when the deck runs Bowmastersftfy
>>93184035i am older than you and i will speak like a reatrd if i so desire
>Opponent gets 3x Treasure Cruise AND a Galvanic Iteration copied Temporal Trespass in one game>We still winSIR, SIRNO I DON'T CARE THAT YOU DRAW SO MANY CARDS SIRYOUR PHOENIXES ARE IN EXILE SIRAND SIXTEEN DAMAGE TO THE FACE IS LETHAL SIRluv me some flings
>>93184068Is that shit even playable in any deck? Never saw one.
>>93184079I'd play it in limited
>>93184079I'm slowly adjusting the list.It's getting fairly good. Just about my most successful brew.Ancient One getting online with the 8 permanents in the 'yard so it can block a Storm Giant Hall was actually what won that game in the end.
fr fr no capJust look at this opening hand and tell me you don't want to play against this shit.Against turn 3 Sorin/Ripper, the Ripper has to chump block lmfao.
>>93184068If I have the Lazav Multliculti on the board. I declare blockers with him, and then change into Ancient One, it will block normally? Or the block still invalid and things happen.
>>93183966Griselbrand won on the spot in Neoform...
>>93184127>If I have the Lazav Multliculti on the board. I declare blockers with him, and then change into Ancient One, it will block normally? Or the block still invalid and things happen.Yep. Once attacks and blocks are declared, "Can't attack/block" effects are ignored as the thing has already happened.Lazav is often an 8/8 beatstick that shits out a clue every turn.
>>93184120Just hope they don't have a single piece of interaction? lmao
>>93184022Okay. The card is still bad in Modern.
>>93184143Bowmasters has been replaced by Discharge in Modern.
>>93184139Incorrect, my friend. That is not the equation.The real situation is: THEY hope they DO have interaction.AND we have neither Stubborn Denial in nor Thoughtseize in hand.And we don't draw into midgame grinds like Lazav to gobble up our Ancient One now that they burned their removal, or Kroxa to crush the game out even though we got disrupted early.The fast start is just the beginning of how vile this list can be.
>>93184148I never mentioned Bowmaster, it's irrelevant to what I'm saying.
>>93184143insane cope
>>93183609>>93183617>>93183646>>93183997Wait, hold on. Which one of these artists is the Force of Will one? There's a ton of artists on this set doing anime artwork.
>>93184154See you in a month.
>>93183459>>93183540>>93183545>>93183691>>93183974remember>>93183571>I feel these are alt artsHey there, sherlock, where is your fedora?BTW this set is just a Locke & Key inspired set, what a joke
>>93184182thumbs up emoji
>>93184185>I. Must. Hate.>Me. Angry.Get new material faggot, is lame at this point.
>>93184143Youre so fucking braindead.What the fuck deck do you even play? I want to know what kind of mouth breather im actually dealing with
>>93184157Terese Nielsen.
>>93181202>>93181138>Tron is immortal.Thanks to Ugins Labyrinth enabling turn 1 Chalice cancer.
>>93184215T1 Trinisphere on the draw is also PRETTY GOOD.
>>93184215is t1 chalice even good in modern
>>93184233its ok
>>93184229>this retarded magical christmas land opening is the reason why trinisphere costs $60 nowlmao
>>93184243nogames
How would this list perform in the current Modern meta?4 Karn, the Great Creator2 Acidic Slime4 Arbor Elf1 Dryad Arbor4 Eternal Witness4 Llanowar Visionary4 Noble Hierarch3 Trinisphere2 Beast Within4 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss1 Plow Under4 Primal Command2 Turntimber Symbiosis // Turntimber, Serpentine Wood4 Utopia Sprawl2 Blast Zone1 Boseiju, Who Endures1 Breeding Pool1 Lair of the Hydra6 Snow-Covered Forest4 Verdant Catacombs1 Waterlogged Grove1 Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth[SIDEBOARD]1 Chalice of the Void1 Ensnaring Bridge1 Haywire Mite1 Liquimetal Coating1 Phyrexian Metamorph1 Pithing Needle2 Repudiate // Replicate1 Sundering Titan1 The Stone Brain1 Tormod's Crypt1 Torpor Orb2 Walking Ballista1 Wurmcoil Engine
>>93184243Pretty sure AIDS did it M1 G1 T1 in his blue Eldrazi video.
So it turns out no cards are actually good and we all gaslighted ourselves into thinking magic is a game about choices.Wrap it up, we dont need to talk about magic anymore. No more magic generals needed
>>93184010>LOOK AT ME I HAVE SO MANY TEETH AAAAAHHHHH>DO YOU LIKE LOVECRAFT!??!?!?Are you ready for (insert generic corporate horror)!???!?! Boy am I!
>>93184264>we all gaslighted ourselves into thinking magic is a game about choicesHaven't thought that for almost a decade, and I've only known the game for little over a decade.
>>93184204>playing magic in 2024Who's braindead now?
>>93184356
>>93184202I m also angry with hasbro/wizards, so fuck off shill, stop apologizing in name of rosewater.Magic is in a bitter state, anyone still playing either is too much invested or has some mental issues.
>>93184374/mmg/ - silver and weapons, why?
Why is everyone so bitter here?
>>93184356my God but...2024...it's the current year?
>>93184398I'm pumping Amalia, what's wrong with that
>post modern stifledrazi here day 0 of reveal>its bad it wont work>deck count: 6And yeah fuck the rotation.
>>93184398Because a thing we used to enjoy was destroyed so WotC could milk money from pathetic manchild consoomers who couldn't care less for quality.
>>93184398Im not bitter. Im just mentally impaired and can't stop defending BBC (Big Black Cards) like vein ripper and necrodominece
>>93184394Based
>>93184400You're actually wrong. 2015 is /currentyear/, we're in /currentyear/+9
>>>/vg/483757721/Just a post to see how interested people are but I'm interested in hosting a /mtgag/ timeless event. If interested, just reply and if I see enough interest I'll start setting it up.
>>93184454how did I fuck that crossboard link up so bad. Do you not put in the last backslash?>>>/vg/483757721
>>93184398Because the game is garbage now. Why do you even have to ask, don't you have a functioning brain?
>>93184461>Do you not put in the last backslash?You do not.
>>93184478the more you know. I never do crossboard links so I thought I had it. Should have double checked the FAQ before I made myself look dumb...
>>93184488Been here since 2008 and I still have to check the FAQ to get crosslinks right lol
>>93184387Yeah we know shill, shill, shill, WotC bad Hasbro bad Magic shit blablabla as i said get mew material or better save you (and us from your mindless shitposting) and fuck off, be free, stupid faggot.
>>93184157>we want the shadowverse audience>>93184215Laughs in Ancient Tomb>>93184243I thought you were wrong or this was just a regional thing. These were ¥2280 a week ago and I didn't buy any because I was waiting for fakes to be made and didn't want to spend $60 on the playset. I feel awful.
>1 week without mtgo decklistsit's officially overwe will never recover from thisbillions will die
>>93184269
>>93184525I just want to win with smart people decks... Give me good decks... Out meta powerful decks... I don't have the enough brain to brew...
>>93184398People say I'm a sweet man
>>93184398no mtgo decklists
How do I maxx /accelerate/ mtg?
>>93184398bloomburrow will be shitduskmourn will be shitdeath race will be shit2025 will be shit all of itwhat is to hope for? why we shouldn't be bitter here?
>>93184599You dont Pucci
>>93183571>>93183609The future of TCGs are cute monsters.
>>93184599You find gravity
>>93183974That's conceptually cool though.
>>93183774Don't insult Marks hard work he's been working very hard this year.
>>93184599Have you read Ride the Tiger?
>>93184649I would dig some schlock and camp, but knowing wotc, they wouldn't be able to pull it off.Cute animals are fine, too.
>>93184398Iunno. I just know I am in that stage of fandom enlightenment where the game being garbage is not something to be mad about, its just part and parcel to playing it.
>>93183974>SAAR NO I DO NOT WANT REDEEM THE MIRROR!!!
>>93183974If you had to put this art in a card which effect would that card have? Which colour?
>>93183974looks like that dr disrespect dude
>>93183048PreFIRE format when?
>>93182526>SSSSelective Service System
Phoenix is literally just hard carried by Treasure Cruise lmfao.
>>93184874so you figured it out
>>93184874Congrats anon, you know understand what people complained for months about, clap clap clap
>>93184874>don't draw treasure cruise>win anywayLolbabs?
>>93184883>Don't draw Eye of Ugin>Still manage to win with EldraziWTF???
holy shit did guys know that tron can make 7 mana with just 3 lands???
>>93184897did you guys know that ral and tamiyo were busted cards?
>>93184883Show me one game where Phoenix has won without drawing treasure cruise, and the opponent didn't mull to 5 or less.
>Tamiyolmaoooo
>>93184883>Don't draw [Extremely Strong Card]>[Tier 1 deck] wins anywayCrazy stuff uh?
>>93184897Wich lands?
>>93184874>never draw nykthos>"omg green is tier o stfu ban idk karn or something"izzet players are something else
>brick with opening hand even after mulligans>[tier 1 deck] wins anywaycrazy stuff
I miss Sac being a top tier deck, same with God forbid me Greasefang, my cute little rat
>>93184979they will be playable again after ripper is gone
>>93184979you just miss netdecking at seeing them in some chart
Reminder to get your vote in for this weekend's finalist decks so we can see just how good /mtg/ is at card evaluation.https://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAgahttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAgahttps://strawpoll.com/40Zm4dxxAga
>>93184979>I miss Sac being a top tier deckthat is the only deck I don't missstealing my creatures for 1 mana is fucking cheating
whats with the autist who hates metahes been doing it all dayNETDECK NETDECK NETDECKblud is broken record fr fr
When they ban Nadu, will they also ban Phlage or are they going to punt that can down the road so we can see what 70% RWx Modern looks like?
>Heh, you played well kiddo, but now I'll play my 3rd land and cast Phlage, Helix your face, and pass tur- ACK!!!
>>93185134Who is tapping out with this fuck plotted?
>>93185134I would always save a fucking removal if i see a mountain, and of i see this plotted? Two removals if i had the mana.
>>93185134what were they thinking? that card is seeing play and success across all formats...
>>93185186>thinkingLmao
>>93185149>>93185161>Wasting entire turnsYou know they don't have to cast it right?
silly anon. WotC doesn't think in the traditional sense like you and me. WotC is a somewhat sophisticated Ai that makes cards and artwork based on prompts given to it by a single overpaid monkey.
SSS is a healthy card for the metagame. Without it aggro couldn't compete against all the unfair combo decks. His decks are not even the best deck in any given format.
>go on twitch out of boredom>mtgo main channel just started streaming>there's this goblin on streamnever change evil jews
>SSS is a healthy card for the metagame
>>93185321>Yung DingoNo way that's a real name lmao
>>93185287>holds up 1 manaGo on anon, play into it, i just wasted my turn not tapping out. Im definitely gonna lose now
>>93185322Yes anon unfair combo decks still dominate modern and pioneer. SSS is unironically fair.
>>93185331Okay!
>>93185338Anon you don't make a game more fun by giving EVERYONE the wombo combo shit; you ban the wombo combo shit.
>>93185354Except wotc is allergic to banning shit
>>93185343Did you not see my angel of jubilation retard?R players always play into onboard tricks ShakimgMyDamnHat
>>93185357You're the one saying they made the format better, not me.
>>93185327Sounds like the name of a creature>Yung Dingo>Creature - Dingo
>>93185321Someone ask why the decklist page isn't back up yet.
>creatures have been powercrept so much that Legacy Delver lists have unironically started cutting DelverIt's over
>>93185719Delver has his time.Now the moment of the F.I.R.E. children has arrived.
>>93185719its not that delver was explicitly powerfuldelver is a 1 drop who you can win the game with eventually while being able to hold up your 8-12 free counterspells theres just other one drops that do that now
>>93185746Do not try to explain deckbuilding philosophy to /mmg/ they are genuine heathens
>>93185719Why are they still calling this delver lmao
I'm glad people outside of here are aware of this problem, but it's not like it will affect anything.
>>93185719Delver was a popular ban target for many people for a long time as far as I remember.>>93185741Also Ragavan is banned in Legacy, with it legal it would probably look even worse for Delver of Secrets.>>93185763Probably because it shares almost every card with the previous lists with Delver.I think mtggoldfish just automatically categorizes lists based on how many cards they share with existing ones.
>>93185780>Delver was a popular ban target for many people for a long time as far as I remember.meant for >>93185746
delver is an ideal which we should all strive forhe is more than a singular card, more than a man
>>93185719Now we can confirm the death of magic
>1 mana 3/2 flyer is now unplayable garbageAmazing. They will have to reprint at mythic rarity with a paragraph of text on the flip side. Call it Delver of Horrors or some bullshit
>>93185834>1 mana 3/3 flier that surveils every noncreature spell>1 mana walkerhes simply been crept
>>93185851Don't forget the 1 mana goyf and 2 mana Frog these are also quite busted for tempo lists.
>>93185763I mean mid-2010s Affinity (Robots) was called Affinity despite having 0 affinity cards. People associate the deck with the lynchpin card long after the card's actual time
I think Tamiyo was also underrated by a lot of people, to me it was clear that 1 mana walker that can win the game in a few turns is quite powerful, at least in Brainstorm formats where flipping her is extremely easy.It reminds me Origins Jace, back then I also thought it looked quite strong but a lot of people seem to underrate these cheap blue planeswalkers for some reason.
>>93185908She was the most hyped up one, from what I saw.
>>93185134This is your brain on game design
>>93185966I thought people mostly hyped up Grist.
>>93186422There was one guy in these threads that thought Sorin was as good as Oko because he could make food tokens, I don't think most people, especially not here, have any idea what makes a card good or bad.
>I CAN KILL YOU WITH DICKSHOT!!!!!!!tap blue for spell snareAny responses?
>>93186561I'll.. eh.. pump.. mmm.. swifty?
Have they done anything with Garruk after he got cured
Wishing this list didn't have crutch saga in it.
>>93187098How else would I be able to tutor out my haywire mites?
>>93187098How else would I be able to tutor out my Shadowspear?
>>93187098Isn't it mostly there just because it's an enchantment land that puts itself in the graveyard while also grabbing an artifact creature that can put itself in the graveyard? Four types from one card seems quite nice for the goyfs.
>>93186561I cast bolt bolt growth spike and hit you for 5 with my swiftspear. GGs
>>93185134>>93186561>>93187214
>>93187241fetal push should be banned
>>93187241>Shocks you with barbarian rings for 4 the next turnHeh, nothing personel. Should've stabilized on an empty board kiddo
how the fuck do people go to a 5+ hour event without a serious urge to amsturbate
>>93187294You jerk off in the toilet, duh.
>>93182235I'm a huge simp for cheap tawdry horror, especially creature features. Please let Duskmourn not be shit
>Mull>Consider>Picklock Prankster>Treasure Cruise>Consider>Picklock Prankster>treasure Cruise>Four phoenixes ready for actionNothing personnel, kiddo
>"Grief is, at least to me, the card that's most emblematic of the way Modern has evolved with Modern Horizons sets. The straight-to-Modern expansions put more of an emphasis on interaction in a format that had a reputation for being 'two ships passing in the night, Grief excels at that, and being a spell that can be played for free means it can disrupt in the very small window that the fastest Modern decks have to be stopped. Grief is proactive disruption in that it doesn't require your opponent to have done anything to still be effective interaction. Grief 's ability to be used proactively means that abusing the evoke mechanic by playing cards like Not Dead After All allows you to do more than just disrupt, but completely dismantle opposing game plans as early as the first turn, which brings us back to the Modern we talked about before: blisteringly fast, but now instead of racing to execute to our own plan, we instead race to tears yours apart. Grief blends the speed of 'old' Modern with the interactivity of the post-Horizons format, making it the poster child of the present and future of the format."Beardsley
>>93187362okay, but why did they need to put unmask on a creature? why not just print unmask directly into modern?
>>93187362Nice, a retarded take from someone I'm supposed to know but have never heard of?
WHY THE FUCK IS CHORD OF CALLING AN INSTANT
>>93187497it's basically a summary of why it will never be banned, by a pro tour winner
>>93187510So I can make manchildren cry when I pull "in response..." shit outside of blue.
I think one of my least favorite things about FIRE and its consequences is how topdeck can just completely blow out entire games by themselves.You can go from an opponent with zero cards in hand, nothing on board, and you with a dominant board presence, to them topdecking Treasure Cruise or Return to the Ranks and your opponent suddenly just wins a game they had no right winning. Not from behind, not from a tense game, not a close call, the game just flips 100% from totally losing to instant win.So many games are just LITERAL heard of the cards ass coinflip bullshit. Zero strategy, zero interaction. Just "I drew the I won card"It sucks so much ass. Everyone at WotC needs to be fired for how badly they've blundered game design. E v e r y o n e.
I think the moronic focus on only ever banning cards for power level reasons is awful. It contributes to how bad the game is.Just because the top four decks (with 80% meta share combined) are technically kind of even with each other, does not mean the game is good.It's a designers job to make an entertaining game, an engaging game. One where decisions matter. Yes, you SHOULD ban T3f just because it fucking sucks ass and makes the game boring. You SHOULD ban cards like Treasure Cruise, even if you think the format is """healthy""" with it rampaging, simply because the card creates extreme arbitrary, topdeck-dependent, strategy-negating gameplay.Who cares if a card is too powerful. I mean yes, many of the cards that need to be banned ARE too powerful, but who fucking cares. Get over it. Just ban them because they FUCKING SUCK.
>>93184018I used to make custom cards with that exact same mechanic.Funnily enough it was a horror themed set too.
>>93187650>Including a counter to solve memory issues.WotC would NEVER!!!
>>93187362So instead of two ships passing in the night, it's two ships blindly ramming in the night. What a step up!
>>93187526Tourneyfags are often retards too. We got Bowmasters because they asked tourneyfags what they thought.
>>93187684there aren't many more scenarios in that metaphor>>93187691ravagan was also made by pro players so whatever the case they do this things in tandem
When does the PT coverage start and where can I watch it?
>>93187713The ships could actually see each other and exchange fire like they're fucking supposed to
>>93187720It starts in around 90 minutes, you can probably watch it on twitch or youtube.
>>93187713To be fair, MH3 kinda killed Ragavan, you barely see him anymore.
>>93187764bowmasters rotated ravegan
>>93187723I guess so, but when a format picks up speed it no longer goes back
>>93187764Ragavan getting powercrept out of Modern should be peak clown world, but all it shows to me is that we can't even comprehend the true heights of clowning that WotC is capable of.
You people aren't real fans and hate magic
>>93187819no, we aren't the ones designing the game
>>93187789This isn't even the final horizon. MH4 soon, and then, MH5 will be just around the corner.
>>93187819SO true
>>93187819XD omg dude you got us good!
>>93187564Anon, treasure cruise is a 10 year old card
>>93187846I must be sincere i'm more afraid of UB sets... You don't need hype for MH we all know what we can expect, but depending on the franchise you need something else to make people outside of the Cummander crew to buy cards and that could lead to some terrible design ideas
Can someone post an image with WotC's explanation as to why there are so few non-human(oid) planeswalkers, saying that they want the fans to be able to sympathize with them?
>>93187880UB sets are literally the only thing of value this series has produced in years, I would prefer a thousand asscreeds and dr tumblr sets over another soulless hat theme park.
>>93187895speaked like a true commander faggot enjoyer, sis.
riggged protour draft, cards are already slveeed
Ikawa-san... this deck...... is not good......
>drafting a BW deck in mh3Big Kev you mad man
>>93188260>>93188260>>93188260
