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>Brutus' Drive
http://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1qb0_OLhDrDSmZpRWdZaGZRcWs?tid=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&authuser=0

>DriveAnon's Drive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Cx7KoDkQa9qmDfJN9_CehZ0fxXEweKOu?usp=sharing

>Jumpchain IRC Chat
http://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn

>How to Jumpchain
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDVDFBR2NpdG03S0U/view

>Last Thread
>>93204653
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Irresolvable | Irrecoverable Presence, or Anthem Anatheme + Rega? I've gotten most of my build worked out, but am torn between these options for spending my last 800 CP.

Destiny: The Darkness

Starting Location: Ishtar Sink
Origin: Human

Perks
>The Sword Logic -300 CP
>Heresiarch -600 CP
>Universal Common Ancestor -Free
>Hatred Of The City -Free
>Drifter's Gambit -100 CP
>Bane of the Swarm (Vex) -100 CP
>Embrace the Darkness (Deepsight) -200 CP
>Prismatic Symmetry -300 CP
>Shaped Finality -400 CP

Items
>Madwoman's Ramblings -Free

Drawbacks
>Off The Board +200 CP
>Usurper of the Ordered Way (Hive, Vex, Cabal, Black Fleet, Witness) +1000 CP
>Living Lootbox +300 CP
>Pruning Shears +300 CP
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Real thread
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Update. Added a new item + 2 400 CP drawbacks. Did some grammar checks here and there too.
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>>93215408
*+400 CP I mean.
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>>93215397
>Irresolvable | Irrecoverable Presence, or Anthem Anatheme + Rega? I've gotten most of my build worked out, but am torn between these options for spending my last 800 CP.
Man, these Jap story titles keep getting longer every time I turn around.
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>>93215426
Kek
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>>93215426
>There is an author out there writing a jumpchain light novel RIGHT NOW
Nightmarish
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>>93215441
Thanks for making it. It's a fucked up story, but sometimes those make for the best jumps.
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>>93215441
I don't get you man. I really don't. The juxtaposition is bizarre.
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>>93215448
>The juxtaposition is bizarre.
How so?
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>>93214912
I know there is pirate ship but maybe you could add some small spaceship or there are only big vessels that can move in space?
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>>93215397
Irresolvable | Irrecoverable Presence. It gives you a paracausal force that is fully in your control, making you a baby traveler
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>>93215458
You man. You. Good luck with future projects.
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>>93215441
No problem, even if a fool had to jump the gun on what was surprisingly decent discussion about it. I thought it would be much worse, glad to be proven wrong.
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>>93215459
Yeah, I was kinda feeling that after a point. Added that into my build, and finished my Destiny The Light build too.

Destiny: The Light

Origin: Risen -200 CP
Race: Human
Class: Warlock

Perks
>Glimmer Production -Free
>Jumper's Light -800 CP
>The Light -Free
>Rise -Free
>Fate Of The Fateless -Free
>A Compass Towards Hope -100 CP
>One With The Light -300 CP
>We Are A Beautiful Creation -400 CP
>Subclass: Voidwalker -200 CP
>Ingenuity -Free
>Student Of The Cryptarchs -100 CP
>Member Of The Interdimensional Research Team -200 CP
>Thanatonautics -400 CP

Items
>Grimoire -Free
>A Jumpship -100 CP
>Sparrow -Free

Companions
>Ghost -Free

Drawbacks
>Make Your Own Destiny +0 CP
>Patrol Duty, Again +200 CP
>Give Me A Moment +200 CP
>It Came From The Moon +300 CP
>Lost To The Light +300 CP
>Sweet Cotton Socks! +400 CP
>A Betting Man +400 CP
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>>93215471
>Thanatonautics
Always thought this perk was super cool
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Is Gilgamesh a Potential Man?
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>>93215485
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>>93215485
A Potential Man is someone who is continually hyped up and yet fails to live up to their role. Gilgamesh, by eating shit, is being undone by his flaws, thus fulfilling his role as the antagonist.
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>>93215485
Gilgamesh is like Sukuna if when Sukuna fought Yuji he just refused to use shrine or his domain expansion.
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>>93215502
>Gilgamesh is like Sukuna if when Sukuna fought Yuji he just refused to use shrine or his domain expansion.
I'm not sure that's enough, perhaps if he were to also intentionally give himself brain damage so he both can't think properly or use RCT.
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>>93215508
Sukuna does that already.
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>>93215508
It's more like if he could at any moment use tactics or RCT and just didn't, thanks to a staunch conviction in the face of all evidence that his opponent didn't deserve it.
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>>93215491
>A Potential Man is someone who is continually hyped up and yet fails to live up to their role.
So, Gohan?
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>>93215523
Only in the Buu arc
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>>93209575

Hey Cruel Anon, sorry to bother, but you gonna upload it? Went to check on the drive but it still shows the old 2022 version of the jump
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>>93215537
That ended up turning into a WIP for the update, so it's got at least a few more things I'm going to be adding.
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>Looking back over Exalted vs
>Companions only get 400 cp
WHY.
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Ah fuck it. I truly can't think of a good storyline for Hellsing so I'm just moving on for now. Off to Jujutsu Kaisen it is.

Jump 41: Jujutsu Kaisen

Starting Location: Shibuya (Free Choice)
Origin: Old Timer
Age: 34
Gender: Female

Perks
>Jujutsu -Free
>Transferrable Skills (Doctor) -100 CP
>Curse Forge -600 CP
>He's Fast -Free
>The Right Kind Of Crazy -Free
>Keeping Promises -100 CP
>Corpse Curser -200 CP
>Healer -200 CP
>Just That Good -300 CP
>Barrier Master -300 CP

Cursed Techniques (+200 Cursed CP)
>Custom Cursed Technique: Ten Thousand Stars -200 Cursed CP, -400 CP

Items
>Slaughter Demon -Free

Drawbacks
>Early Days +0 CP
>Curse Magnet +100 CP
>Overtime +100 CP
>Culling Gamer +100 CP
>Oath Sworn +200 CP
>Weak Point +200 CP
>Star Plasma Vessel +200 CP
>Failed Incarnation +300 CP

My general plan here is fairly simple: design Cursed Cybernetics, build myself and my technique up via working as a free sorcerer, grant Jujutsu to all of humanity via transhumanism, then eventually go and stomp on Sukuna like the insect he is.
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UQ Holder needs more drawbacks.
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>>93215580
It does not.
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>>93215577
>Oath Sworn
>Failed Incarnation
Yeah, you're getting mindbroken.
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>>93215592
Nah. My Jumper has temporal fuckery. I can literally go back in time and undo anything they try.
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>>93215577
>grant Jujutsu to all of humanity
Literally the worst thing you could have done. Like, it literally would have been better to do nothing than mass infect people with something that runs on and magnifies misery.
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>>93215606
Then I can just do the opposite. Or ensure there's a switch-to cancel out Cursed Energy generation at will.
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>>93215596
>Brother said "Nah, I'd win"
And like that you've sealed your fate.
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>>93215606
It actually doesn't infect everyone with misery, they were already leaking it out. This just lets them channel it properly.
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>>93215564
Fuck you in particular, that's why.
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If you take a drawback that seals your memories does that mean your amnesiac self might choose to stay or go home while not remembering shit?
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>>93215636
You're writing the story.
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>>93215577
>Custom Cursed Technique: Ten Thousand Stars -200 Cursed CP, -400 CP

Sooooooo, what does this do?
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>>93215636
Depend on when you decide the effects of drawbacks are lifted.
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>>93215640
No, Marvel/DC editorial is. Or Toyotaro/Gege/Kishimoto/Kubo is.
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>>93215636
I don't know about other people but I assume that the decision to stay / go home / continue effectively marks the end of a jump and thus all potential drawbacks fall off so you can make your decision. I mean you couldn't get the ending options if the jump hadn't ended, and drawbacks go away when a jump ends, ergo you should not be dealing with memory loss or amnesia when making those choices (assuming they're the result of drawbacks).
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>>93215636
Not unless you did some drawback keeper bullshit. While it's not nearly as common due to modern jumps assuming you know the ropes, older ones very explicitly said your drawbacks stop fucking with you before then being presented the choices to go/stay/jump.
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>>93215651
A lot, but very little without a great deal of buildup.
>https://privatebin.net/?5df4785529ecefe0#3Ns5TZXMi6zUHWTCeAE9Tfy9yo7XVnrppcEyzhkfCUbB
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>>93215606
It's literally the only thing that will actually solve the problems of Cursed Energy
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>>93215624
Understandable, have a terrible day.
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>>93215666
So another instance of someone wanting literally everything but lacking the self-control to rein in their impulses and "creating" something that can do literally everything but with "limitations" and "drawbacks" that will almost never actually come into play.
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What are your favorite restrictions to apply to your chains and jumpers?

Hard Mode: Can't say "no magic" or "no technology."
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>>93215676
Cursed energy is about to go away when they kill the merger after Sukuna dies.
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>>93215681
Nope.
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>>93215681
To be fair, Sukuna does the same thing so it's on brand for the franchise
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>>93215684
No items that are purely physical, no properties that are purely physical, no companions unless I figure out how to bring them along myself.
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>>93215684
First few jumps follow a theme, and then after that I do as I wish.
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>>93215684
Jumper can only take what he can basedly pry from the setting's cold, dead hands with his own Chadly efforts and even then has to pay for everything with CP he obtained for drawbacks.
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Is JJK worth giving a look?
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>meme, meme, buzzword, meme
Tiresome.
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>>93215684
Jumpers age doesn't get reset. He has to figure out a way to solve the ageing problem in his first few Jumps. Its a good filter to make them inventive.
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>>93215684
I've come to realize I actually prefer short (10-20 jumps) chains over long ones. It's far easier to write for and it doesn't have the problem of jumper becoming so powerful they just lol stomp the entire setting.
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>>93215702
But is it really Chadly when jumpers are expected to be magpies and you can take multiple drawbacks that give you those points for doing the thing you were already going to do?
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>>93215706
It's fun, brutal shounen fights, just don't think too hard about the plot.
Pity what happened to best girl.
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>>93215717
Yes, because the points don't actually give anything, they just allow the opportunity to take things you could have already gained yourself.
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>>93215706
It's pretty good, but it kinda falls off after Shibuya. I like Naoya
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>>93215706
It's fun but you don't watch it for the plot. You watch it because of the fights and power system that tickles your Autism in a special way. Oh and to watch people suffer.
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>>93215720
>>93215757
I mean, its a shonen, no one ever watches shonen for the plot they are all universally terrible.
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>>93215757
>watch it for the plot
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>>93215766
Naruto's plot was great unironically. Even the War arc (once Madara showed up).
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>>93215766
Say that to all the Naruto fags who never shut up about there show.
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>>93215766
Kenshin was great through up to and through the Kyoto Arc, but it falls apart after that.
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>>93215767
That's the normal plot most sane and rational people watch anime for. JJK fags watch it for the homoerotic masculine version of that.
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>>93215720
>>93215757
> All these 'it's fun just don't think about plot' answers
I'm getting real 'MHA before it was tossed aside' vibes
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Hey, so I'm gonna be making Eyes of Heaven next (sorry Tomoko gamers)

Anything you guys would wanna see?
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>>93215720
Truly a shame about Nobara, but what can you do.

Also want to waifu her, but I am kinda torn between going early and helping Geto & Co., or going at the usual time, actually teaching Yuji how to Sorcerrer before trying to take on a Spirit, along with the FYI of 'Don't get into deals with ancient sorcerrers, they are much more experienced than you, smarter, and totally willing to be maliciously compliant.'

That and tell Megumi to either take the stick out his ass and enjoy being a psycho sorcerrer, because other wise he might very well end up being some spirit's chew toy.

But honestly torn between nabbing and corrupting Nobara, and playing counciler to Geto during his teen years.

Solution?
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>>93215772
This is a bit right? You're having a giggle?
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>>93215775
No one here talks about Naruto for the plot. They talk about the powers and waifus.
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>>93215784
Nah, they have a very different feeling. You can tell Gege just wants to write guys beating the shit out of each other and make people seethe.
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>>93215686
Fuck off retard
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>>93215802
What jumps have you made, faggot?
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>>93215792
Ignore plot, take waifu for yourself.
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>>93215807
More than you.
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>>93215802
They intentionally set up the "getting rid of cursed energy" concept in Hidden Inventory for a reason. Stories don't just bullshit ideas and then do nothing with them.
>>93215793
Naruto haters have either never read the manga or read it like 8 years ago and never stopped being salty Madara wasn't the final boss.
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>>93215789
Perks based on the double combo game mechanics I guess.
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>>93215789
>Dio isn’t even done being my punching bag yet
>This is the setting where he’s beaten with the least amount of effort in any JoJo setting
Damn. I actually feel bad for the guy at this point. A reasonable explanation for why Star Platinum’s power lets it just copy whatever the World has would be appreciated.

Uh more seriously a perk for combo attacks with your friends, Holy Corpse parts as…I don’t know, I guess generic spiritual energy powerups, another perk for talking your friends out of needless sacrifices like recklessly attacking the Pillar Men in their residence and a third perk for getting along with alternate versions of yourself so you can live a quiet life together I suppose?

Damn items are gonna be tricky for this one huh
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>>93215818
>Stories don't just bullshit ideas and then do nothing with them.
>He actually says this
>Unironically
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>>93215789
Dunno Eyes of Heaven well enough to really weigh in, but since its a multiversal meetup kind of thing:

FemDio companion. Version that got all her power and wealth on her own, unlike the other fraud, but got bored with shit. But now she wants to pursue a relation with you, as the sole person that tried to help her out of genuine kindness when Dario was a bitch. Unfortunately that version of you died, and jumper you is the only one she finally found in the multiverse after a long search.

Sorry for the long post. Obviously a bit of a joke, but would love to see a snappy, sarcastic femDio throw shade at the other, all while being lovey dovey.
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>>93215815
Any that you've released into the thread?
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>>93215818
Anon I have read the manga. Ignoring issues with what came before it the War arc as an absolute shitshow. The writinf flew by the seat of its oversized clown pants.
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>>93215813
Hmmmm, Office Lady. Nais. Mini skirt needs to be mini-er.
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>>93215826
The crazier thing is he said it in a post where he also defends Naruto's writing.
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>>93215720
>>93215813
I'mma give her a nailgun made to work with her powers.
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>>93215818
The story went to utter shit long before the 4th Ninja War. Anyone that stuck with it that long is just a masochist or connoisseur of trash media.
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>>93215826
Well they're not supposed to, at any rate. Gege's writing actually seems relatively tight on paying shit off, like enchain or Yuji gaining shrine.
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>>93215843
What are her powers?
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>>93215844
Can we agree it peaked with the Pein and Itachi fights?
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>>93215850
>Gege's writing actually seems relatively tight on paying shit off
>He says this
>Unironically
>Again
Have you even watched/read JJK?
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>>93215844
>The story went to utter shit long before the 4th Ninja War.
Pain arc was peak.
5 Kage Summit was pretty good.
Naruto training arc with Bee gives us the legendary Minato flashback where he fights Obito.

This concludes all parts before the War arc, unless you're trying to seriously argue the Pain arc was bad.
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>>93215858
Pein, maybe, Itachi fight had more than a good deal of bullshit in it. Still good, but was definitely going downhill.
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>mods are finally cracking down on Coffinspam
If only they could be more consistently based by not also deleting redpilled posts.
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>>93215858
The series peaked with pein. This is undeniable.
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>>93215874
>>93215867
I am never taking the opinion of anyone who spells Pain with an e seriously.
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>>93215879
I spell it as "Nagato".
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>>93215879
Blame localization.
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>>93215879
>choosing the name that means bread
Sorry, this isn't Dragonball.
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>>93215825
>Damn items are gonna be tricky for this one huh
I'll just include shit from all the parts since that's basically what the game is anyways.
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>>93215879
Blame localization stupidity that was "official" so people blindly assumed it was intentional. Same reason Hallibel turned into Harribel with Bleach.
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>>93215894
Nah, that's cringe. It'd be better to have a sparse item section than one that's a shopping list of shit from the series that isn't relevant to the game.
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>>93215855
Nail Manipulation/Voodoo Stuff
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>>93215901
Item sections HATE
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>>93215879
If you don't like Pein, you can't enjoy Mahoraga or Malevolent Shrine either-which are localizations as well. Take your Makora and Evil Kitchen and like it.
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>>93215831
All of them.
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>>93215913
Someone pull out that screencap of caustic hatred for item sections.
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>>93215818
I just hate that it became all about chinese ayylmao imigrants. And that all the world's evils can be blame on two guys.

I can't help but dislike reductive shit like that, when writers just decide to kill all mystique in their work and dumb it down to the smallest denominator.
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>>93215870
what does that mean
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>>93215918
Calling him "Pein" missed the entire point of his character. He is elevating himself to the status of a god which brings pain to everyone in order to get them to stop fighting. His name directly reflects his goals and philosophy and this is a main antagonist in the series. Mahoraga actually kinda is right as a translation, since Mahoraga itself (the entity, not the name) has more references in its appearance and abilities to the actual Mahoraga than it does to the actual Makora.
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>>93215920
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>>93215818
>They intentionally set up the "getting rid of cursed energy" concept in Hidden Inventory for a reason
No they didn't. The whole idea is completely fucking retarded now and it was back then too. It wasn't set up because it wasn't treated as a legitimate thing that could happen at any point, it was in fact bullshit because Gege has done absolutely nothing to validate the concept
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>>93215935
They were just trying to be coy. Absolutely no one didn't get that he's trying to mantle the Buddhist concept of inherent suffering.
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>>93215850
>Gege's writing actually seems relatively tight on paying shit off
Psycho, what the fuck are you on?? That's completely wrong, gege not paying off any set up at all is one of the biggest problems with JJK as a story.
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>>93215959
Examples?
>>93215952
What do you think the Tengen and Kenjaku shit is? Kenjaku is the same as Geto (which is why he's in his body). It was set up as a dialectic between eliminating cursed energy (Yuki/Tengen's goal) and evolving cursed energy (Geto/Kenjaku's goal). The merger will be an attempt at evolving cursed energy which instead ends up eliminating it, since cursed energy and curses themselves are the main antagonist of JJK.
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>>93215953
>Being coy
Ah yes, clever wordplay from the same people who inserted a joke about Rock Lee looking like Mo Howard into Naruto, a world where Mo Howard does not exist and nobody could know about him.
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[Super Sentai Kyuranger redux]

So, in conclusion the threat of the Galactinsects is…TECHNICALLY much, much, much lesser compared to Sutekh Wank over in Doctor Who. But only. ONLY going by scaling and “this guy beat everyone and their mom offscreen, we don’t have the budget to animate it”, and compared to what it took to actually bring each down Dagded took much, much, much more, and went down fighting like a man much, much, much better. Yes, even accounting for how he actually ended

Alarms went off as Cockatrice, Rooster Mind, the Surveillance Tomb Spyder, and the foresight-type Aesir I had posted as sentries in this universe sent me an urgent priority. An existential, universal threat’s arrival was imminent. Target planet: Tikyū.

“I must go” I told the local heroes, “my planet needs me”. And without waiting for a reply, I jumped-through space, through time. There was no time for the beautiful precision of a construct or the efficiency of a leyline portal; arcana flared and the red glare of Telos crackled as I landed smack in the palace of an insectoid race.

“A human! DIE HUMAN-mmph mmph mmph!” shouted the arthropod king as grabbing him by the face, once again-I jumped.

“Abyss King Deathnaarok VIII?! Here, now?! How?!?” exclaimed the rulers of this world as I warped into their meeting room.

“Silence. Silence, all of you. You are, all of you, pawns for a celestial child that can’t be bothered to clean his own room” I said very, very seriously.

And I explained in great detail that the entire Naraku-Five Kingdoms war was actually a falseflag operation orchestrated by, among other things, the prime minister of Naraku as well as an unwilling traitor by the human kingdoms.

The important thing I impressed everyone on, was that the enemy was overconfident enough that if we played along we could literally gull them into handing us their weapons.

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“So…so wait, human racism was-“ began Deathnaarok

“A psyop by an aggressive warmongering third party with a vested interest in your relatively impoverished nations related to it’s military-entertainment complex, yes” I said impatiently. “Many such cases.

“And the shugods imbued into our war machines are CREATED by this…this cosmic manchild?” exclaimed Hymeno. “W-why?! What kind of madman would create an entire religion just to enable his campaign of warfare?”

“Many. Such. Cases” I sighed. “Look. The important thing is-we have slightly less than two years to get ahead of everyone, cull or turn some traitors and metaphorically fill the ball pit that water bear-looking cunt wants to jump in with LEGOs. You with me?”

“Of course we’re with you, our fellow trustworthy human!” said the rulers.

“I mistrust humans, and if you EVER cross me I will end you myself!” growled King Deathnaarok.

Sending a 54% loss in efficiency if I didn’t, I quickly manifested my Oma Zi-O: Taken King transformation. “Okay, does the fact that I am secretly a bugman on a spiritual level make a difference?”

“Oh! You should have said so from the start, it’s only natural for a noble non-death-fearer like you to be honest about such a noble goal!” he said cheerfully. I seethed in silence as, without actually saying anything, I communicated to him that this attitude was exactly why he’d overlooked his chief minister being a double agent.

Preparations went underway. The core of the planet was replaced with Diomedes, Kingsmind: A Vex aggregate tuned to figure out Sentai bullshit. With the Vex network established, weapons not seen since the shattering of the C’tan were attached to a flotilla of ships in orbit. And while the tragic and avoidable war continued, my Aesir agents chose worthy souls as Einherjar before giving them a little talk about the entire war being a psyop.

2/4
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Any place I can get magic Crystals/Stones that are perpetual sources of magical energy and constantyl emmit some?
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I Took the Galactinsect chief minister after the king got him to let his guard down with a “performance evaluation meeting”, and the human traitor turned out to have his own revenge plan against the imminent threat so with some fast talking we roped him into the conspiracy. A sealed crony of the imminent threat could have ruined everything-but my Aesir forces granted his wish and shunted him to the afterlife, leaving him at the mercy of his own victims Unto the rulers, I passed down my pokemon trainer knowledge as well as some Lifestream-infused magical goat’s milk I used my Triune Scriptures cultivation to further enrich into spirit energy steroids.

The key thing is the Galacticainsects thought everything was going just as keikaku.

“Aschente!” I greeted Goma Rosalia as he was about to make his grand entrace.
“What?”
“It’s a greeting our planet has for formal game-based challenges” I said innocently.
“Hmph. Aschente, future corpse” he said confidently.

The Aesir sorcery, Vex <simulations> and Necrontyr magitech seeded throughout the planet activated alongside the Aschente magic. Suddenly Goma found that “being a ninja” incorrectly penalised all ninja actions by sealing off certain abilities, and I had tuned the magic to versions of ninjahood foreign to this reality. By Naruto-running, wearing labcoats and shouting BELIEVE IT a lot the rulers beat Goma despite the vast gulf of power between them-and quickly, I used Symphogear alchemy to decompose and reverse engineer the empowering forces for him.

“Aschente!” I greeted Hibil Lich.
“Aschente yourself! Now, you will be the first of my slaves!” she said. Or tried to say. A field of silence sprang up across the entire planet. Six swords swung, one invader fell.

“Aschente!” I greeted Minongan Mouz. He was too dumb to fall for such tricks, and started age-warping everyone.

I sealed him into the Shadow realm with ancient Egyptian duelling card magic instead.

3/4
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>>93215974
>What do you think the Tengen and Kenjaku shit is? Kenjaku is the same as Geto (which is why he's in his body). It was set up as a dialectic between eliminating cursed energy (Yuki/Tengen's goal) and evolving cursed energy (Geto/Kenjaku's goal). The merger will be an attempt at evolving cursed energy which instead ends up eliminating it, since cursed energy and curses themselves are the main antagonist of JJK.
Absolutely none of this is true. The merger won't even happen, to be frank, Kenjaku has nothing to do with Geto and was an irrelevant plot device character with zero thematic relevance or emotional connection to any other character, Yuki died irrelevant too and will never be mentioned ever again.
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What options are there to acquire the ability to photosynthesize or otherwise subsist on sunlight? There was one in the MGS jump. Obviously some jumps let you become a plant person, but I'm looking for something that's not tied to an alt-form.
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>>93215789
>Perk for giving everyone Good ends
>Perk for working with complete dickheads who want to kill you (Diego and Dio)
>Perk for ignoring hax from weaker stands (GER and Tusk vs TWOH)
>Jumper family companion
>Drawback where Novel Kars joins
I wish I had more to give, good luck
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>>93216024
Young Justice got this perk
>Solar Powered: Solar Powered greatly increases the user’s healing ability in direct sunlight; they won’t be regenerating lost limbs, but anything that’s still attached will heal, given time. In addition, they no longer need to breathe, eat, drink, or sleep, so long as they’ve been exposed to enough direct sunlight in the past 24 hours. Effectively makes the user a solar battery. (400 CP, discount Human- Kryptonian Hybrid
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>>93216016
I will say this: if Gojo doesn't come back at all even for like ten seconds this series writing is legitimate trash, because there was a significant amount of set-up about Gojo coming back. This "Yuta in Gojo's body" thing could lead to Gojo coming back momentarily and that's what I'd assume, otherwise I have zero idea why Yuta taking over Gojo's body was a part of the story. Gege may just be in full My Hero war arc mode where he says "This'll get them talking!"

Yeah, yeah, I know, Gojo coper.
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“Well, well! So YOU’RE the one who’s taken all my toys!” said Dagded, as he showed up on the planet. The paracausal forcefield held, held, HELD against his coming-then snapped like brittle glass. “Too bad for you, I’m getting serious from the start! THIS PLANET” he said, beginning to swell up into his galaxy-sized form “IS NO LONGER NECESSARY FOR THE SAKE OF MY ROOM’S CLEANLINESS”

“And yet you still deigned to set foot on it, presumably to make a strong first impression” I said. C’tan-cracking weapons fired into him and he laughed at them, swatting away most. Leaving him wide open to the alchemical silver bullets made of his own subordinates, weakening him enough for the remainder to hurt before he destroyed both. Right as the broken forcefield’s pieces suddenly forced themselves on him-constricting him with the force of a black hole.

It had taken A LOT of coaching, but as I’d taught everyone breaking Sentai convention and beating on someone mid-transformation was critical to victory.

“GAAAH! STOP INTERRUPTING MY TRANSFORMATION, THIS ISN’T FUN ANYMORE! HOW DARE YOU REFUSE TO PLAY MY AWESOME GAME OF DEATH! I WON’T LET YOU BREAK MY LAW OF ENTERTAINMENT!!” he bellowed, succeeding in spite of the shugods fearlessly sacrificing themselves-knowing they’d be reborn. Albeit badly wounded.

“That makes two of us” I said. finally exerting more of my power. YOUR KINGDOM ENCROACHES ON MINE. HEAVEN PIERCING RED STAR SHINTAI, OUR LAW IS THE LAW THAT CLEANS YOUR ROOM PROPERLY

Six stars hurtled at the cosmic destroyer, and my fires rose up around them as an insurmountable curtain, and the usurper was blasted so hard his very existence was splattered over the room he refused to clean.

After that, Abyss King Deathnaarok “The Peaceful” VIII appointed a certain wandering historian as his chief minister to deal with the drudgery of stabilising human-bug relations without his intense human racism kicking back in.

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Bit of a weird question that just occurred to me since I'm jumping Worm as Taylor's power. Say that I give Taylor the power to make Digimon via coding them into existence on a computer, after which they can literally just pop out into the physical world at will/Taylor's command. Would this count as biotinkering or AI creation?
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>>93216041
For Gunstar, how would the addition of 2000+ exalts help the war against the primordials? Yes I know you didn't make the jump.
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>>93216038
Yuta taking over Gojo's body was put in the story so Sukuna could kill Gojo with unlimited cursed energy AND every cursed technique Yuta has in his back pocket upgraded with the Six Eyes. Have you been reading JJK lately? It's called the Sukuna cycle, characters exist to job to Sukuna at this point, the only reason they're even brought up is so Sukuna can defeat them proving forever that he's the best and the strongest
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>>93216041
Don't answer this >>93216061 , Shard. Leave the retard to rot. Your refusal to do so is why you keep getting spam like this.
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>>93215789
>Over Heaven
>Same type of Stand bullshit
>One of the time travel macguffins
>Fighting Game mechanics?
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>>93216038
>Gege may just be in full My Hero war arc mode
I mean, speaking as someone who’s always turned his brain off at everything in JJK except aesthetic appreciation for the fights, the whole Sukuna fight has felt like that?

>Guys look Gojo actually severed a limb and has him on the ropes, this could get rough for-nah, Sukuna wins
>Guys guys look Kashimo-nah, Sukuna wins
>Guys guys look Yuta and Maki are fighting together-nah, Sukuna wins
>Guys look Sukuna beat the allegations with Yorozu’s gift, isn’t he cool?
>Guys look COGji is finally showing Black Flashes can pay off-nah, Sukuna wins
>Guys look Maki is making Sukuna go waku waku-but Sukuna just brushes her off when he’s serious
>Guys look who’s that, is Gojo still alive??
>Guys GUYS look it’s Yuta my original main character BUT with Gojo’s dead body! Get HYYYYYPE

Like I mean again I’m not even complaining because I genuinely have no investment in most of these characters and I can still just enjoy the novelty of everyone dogpiling a dude in shounen, all I’m saying is that Gaygay’s intentions seem pretty transparent to me.
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>>93216072
>Fighting game mechanics
I don't typically like to put meta stuff in my jumps to that level. Other than that, it seems good.
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>>93216044
Technically both, because they're artificial intelligences composed of code, but once they transition into the physical world they're composed of flesh and blood.
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>>93216028
>Perk for ignoring hax from weaker stands (GER and Tusk vs TWOH)
Dio didn’t ignore them, he overwrote them because they accidentally touched his fists.
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>>93216044
Dragonslayers don't care, they're after your ass anyway.
Being serious, I'd say infomorph creation if they can jump back into a computer for reasons, weird biotinkering if the computer just makes em and that's it.
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>>93216024
Solar Powered from Mega Man will give you implants that let you photosynthesize.
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>>93216073
Final bosses of shonen fight lots of characters to show how strong they are. That's how the genre works. Remember Frieza? You could do your exact same post but with every time it was really gonna be the time they finish off Frieza.
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>>93216044
what does that matter? Tinker Categories aren't really a thing in setting and nobody is gonna care about something like that(especially since both are super rare).

The only thing people in setting are gonna care about is if the Digimon can reproduce on their own. It's not like upon seeing them anyone would suspect they're AI.
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>>93216044
Convince Cauldron that you can make them an army and it'll count as whatever you like.
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>>93216085
Not at all.
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>>93216024
You could become a Pokemon in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon with the move Synthesis/Morning Sun.
It's not bound to an Alt-Form as Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ends with allowing your human form to use your pokemon moves and benefit from half your pokeform's stats.
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>>93216085
Id DBZ was made today people would call it the Frieza cycle. Especially if every chapter was followed by a two week break.
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>>93216089
>Hey look, Vegeta's contending with Fri-this isn't even my final form!
>Oh look, Piccolo is doing pretty goo-
>This isn't even my final form!
>Vegeta got another zenkai boost, now he's really gonna finish off Fri-
>This isn't even my final form, also you're trash
>Goku he's here, he's got hi-
>You've made me use 10% of my power!
>Goku hit him with a spirit bomb, he's finally dead!
>Lmao, bye, Krillin.
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>>93215426
Yeah, native isekai is getting out of hand. I’m A Lesbian Indian Woman Reincarnated As The Musical Queen Of The Vex, My Goal? The Recreation Of The Golden Age, At Any Cost Of Human Life sounds like it’s MC is going to be a Keyaru-tier edgelady.

>>93215397
Whatever you think is coolest. Like I said though, right now Vexcoin/humancoin is on the rise while AFAIK the Nine didn’t even do anything to the Ahamkara, and the Guardians legitimately bodied them against their consent even if the Ahamkara technically lived on as objects.

>>93215485
To be perfectly fair he beat the fraud allegations somewhat in Extra and Strange/Fake. And he kind of used it to his advantage in Babylonia by being an administrator type and just bribing or mana funding everyone else to his advantage.

He kind of skirts Potentialhood by quietly running a side hustle as a protagonist helper.

>>93216085
Again, I’m not saying that as a complaint. It is what it is, I’m just here for the fight, and how blatant it is or whether or not Sukuna managed to impose himself as well as Frieza did on Namek rather than come off as someone the author just likes better than the protagonists as well as how much sense the solutions to him or his recovery against them makes in the context of JJK’s power system is subjective. Because, frankly, JJK’s power system plays things pretty fast and loose. As does DBZ.

I only meant that the hype cycle just feels particularly obvious when Gege is doing it. But hey, as long as dem hands fly hard and fast it’s just JJK doing what it usually does in my book.
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>>93216108
>He kind of skirts Potentialhood by quietly running a side hustle as a protagonist helper.
I'm now imagining a Fate version of 7th stand user where you buy NPs from merchant Gilgamesh
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>>93216118
Oh yeah, he was literally a merchant questgiver in Samurai Remnant too. And apparently the Ruler class gives him the intelligence to use POISON instead of just throw swords all day. So yeah, Gil as the antagonist/solo act is a walking study in genre retardation, and Gil as the happy merchant-king actually has something resembling a working brain.

Even if it’s kinda funny that he seems to be more afraid of provoking Ruler Ibuki Douji than any Sumerian god. Or really just any divine being short of BB (Forma de Moon Cell)
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>>93216102
You're completely misrepresenting what actually happens in DBZ and in the process moving the goalposts because you don't want to admit that JJK has ass writing and has always been bad.
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>>93216132
>Yeah, yeah, I know, Gojo coper
I mean to be fair, he did cop to it. He is literally coping about his sunk cost fallacy.
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>>93216132
How is that not what happens in DBZ? It's literally just everybody trying to fight Frieza, looking impressive for a bit and then getting their ass whooped badly.
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>>93216083
They will be able to jump back into computers effectively at will or at Taylor's command. My plan is to basically give Taylor a "Digi-Programming" Tinker ability; she'll be able to freely code up digimon, digital objects, and digital environments with a side order of superhuman programming skills. One of the most fundamental programs Taylor's gonna learn to code early on is "Bio-Mergence" which allows her to basically transform her code into physical/biological objects, or transform physical objects into code. Her Digimon/programs won't necessarily have the capacity to emerge from code natively, but she can program that in or create bio-mergence terminals for them. The big gatekeeper for her tinkering is always going to be hardware capabilities since Worm lacks a native digital world, so I'll also nudge Taylor to basically program computer parts, bio-merge them into the real world, then put them together to make better computers for her to run more complex programs and simulations on in a cycle until she can basically run an entire digital world off of a custom-made smartphone. Assuming she actually thinks to do so or gets that far. Or gives a shit about miniaturization.
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>>93216140
The dragonballs??
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>>93215577
I think that a technique with the potential of giving you 10 other techniques with above Mahoraga shikigami is too powerful but you do you.
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>>93215694
Nta but Sukuna's technique, even with all expansions he did on it, is extremely limited.
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>>93216155
I could see it it it's an 800 technique, because Takaba's power is just reality warping with very few defined limits that makes him invincible to all other CTs. If Takaba wasn't already a character in the series and somebody tried to make that their Custom CT people would be calling it out like "This shit is way too OP and exploitable, you can just find it funny for your enemy to get hit by a truck and instantly die"
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>>93216155
You're looking at the endstate without any consideration for the actual development and difficulties along the path to get to there. Each shikigami will require at minimum ten subjugation battles, with each one being at increasing levels of difficulty until the tenth where I'd have to actively subjugate that beyond-Mahoraga shikigami, AND I'm also going to have to feed and empower the damn things to actually get that level of power-which is no easy feat in the first place. This offers a lot of power, but with a great deal of drawbacks and buildup time that would make it nearly impossible to bring to its pinnacle for someone who only had that alone.
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>>93215818
Nta but I unironically prefer Kaguya to Madara, Obito to both, before his role was hijacked by Madara, and Pain much more than him.
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>>93216175
Based moon bunny goddess enjoyer. Madara a bitch.
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>>93216175
Obito is my favorite Naruto character and I like his redemption arc. Curious to hear your reasoning for why you prefer Kaguya over Madara.
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>>93215989
>Kyuranger
You know, technically Kyuranger takes place in a separate universe than the mainline Kyoruger-KingOhger universe but people have consistently crossed over via wormwhole so this is just quibbling.
>spoiler
Dare I ask what it took to beat Sutekh?
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>>93216008
>>93216041
Incredible.
Also, I guess you dealt with Evil King Gira (not to be confused with Tyrant King Gira) by giving Ucchy some mood stabilisers.
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>>93216108
Shard, this is a question about Elden Ring. In your opinion, how strong is lore accurate Tarnished?
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>>93216038
I would like for Gojo to appear for a bit but don't really think it necessary.
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>>93216198
Jobs to a .50 cal.
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>>93215989
>spoiler
The weirdest thing about the Sutekh being "The One Who Waits" thing isn't that they've essentially made Sutekh Carnival Queen level by putting him above the Toymaker in terms of power and threat, one of the Guardians of Time. No, what's super weird is that Sutekh simultaneously is and IS NOT The One Who Waits. See, due to the ultra-weird nature of his ascension (being exposed to raw time vortex energy when hounding the Doctor), his entire timeline essentially got blended to shreds; Sutekh became the head of the Pantheon of Discord following those events and essentially got the biggest powerboost of all time...except the Doctor tells us that the Pantheon existed ages ago and he was hearing stories of them when he was still just a child. Several members of the Pantheon made their debuts at points well before Sutekh showed up and were never indicated to be major deities initially, let alone peers to the Toymaker. Sutekh himself doesn't become the One Who Waits until AFTER he faces the Doctor and truly dies chronologically, meaning that Sutekh's end is his beginning and his beginning is his end. For all we know, him dying in Empire of Death literally IS the moment he ascends. His entire existence is an unresolvable bootstrap paradox.
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>>93216068
People have real problem, I wasn't there at the time, did people complain about everyone being there to make frieza look stronger when his arc was first released? Differently from then everyone is there to weaken Sukuna
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>>93216201
We need the white haired king back.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tjBs4pKwzhU
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>>93216209
The fundamental difference is that DBZ didn't have constant fucking delays and cutaway chapters, Frieza's arc was shorter and even then people complained about how long everyone was on Namek to the point 'are we still on namek' became a meme
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>>93216073
>Guys look Gojo actually severed a limb and has him on the ropes, this could get rough for-nah, Sukuna wins
That was obvious, Gojo was a mentor
>Guys guys look Kashimo-nah, Sukuna wins
That was to show how strong he still was
>Guys guys look Yuta and Maki are fighting together-nah, Sukuna wins
In all the series Yuta and Maki never fought together
>Guys look Sukuna beat the allegations with Yorozu’s gift, isn’t he cool?
Wich allegations?
>Guys look COGji is finally showing Black Flashes can pay off-nah, Sukuna wins
and in fact Sukuna was forced to enourmusly weaken his domain and his output has dropped notably
>Guys look Maki is making Sukuna go waku waku-but Sukuna just brushes her off when he’s serious
He dashed and had a BF, so a lucky hit
>Guys look who’s that, is Gojo still alive??
>Guys GUYS look it’s Yuta my original main character BUT with Gojo’s dead body! Get HYYYYYPE
That was the best way to handle that cliffhanger.
I fear we are going off-topic, so probably won't answer anymore about this, but anyway haters will hate, not with real reasons.
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>>93216230
Shouldn't have answered at all, it makes you look like an idiot because your arguments are bad.
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>>93216129
I heard that his alter ego version in strange/fake seems smarter than usual too.
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>>93216246
It's like the reverse of that "when the boss character becomes playable" meme.
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>>93215918
>>93215935
>>93215953
Ladies ladies please, you’re both missing the point.

Japanese is a language where the same word can have three different “correct” meanings and Japanese authors regularly exploit this for gags.
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>spoiler
His original and comics incarnations or current Sutekh who has gotten memed into being so overwhelmingly powerful he's probably only behind the Six-Fold God and Carnival Queen now? If it's the former, his original TV appearance had Sutekh casually curbstomp the Doctor and basically win; he was moments away from being released from his seal and damning the universe to silence. The Doctor only "wins" by using the TARDIS' controls to push the exit/time tunnel out of Sutekh's seal far into the future, in hopes Sutekh would die of old age long before he ever made it out. When he returns in the comics, he's STILL casually clowning all over everyone and just destroying casual planet busters and universe-destroyers with no more effort than pointing his fingers at them, and he's only really beaten by one character revealing herself to have been a personal artifact of his own power in human form, forcibly merging with him, then dragging him back into the Void. In neither appearance was he beaten with any amount of raw power.

In his current appearance he gets vaporized by the Time Vortex. Except we are outright told that the energies of the time vortex were what allowed him to ascend for a level of power so great he spooks both the Toymaker and Maestro and his entire timeline is one paradox after another now, so how much of this actually harmed him is completely up in the air.

I will also add that he was originally sealed by 740 of the greatest Osiran Lords and Ladies fighting across all of time and space before they finally imprisoned him at great cost. The Osirans being an entire species who saw the Time War at its peak as a "petty squabble" and the Time Lord's as a whole as being decidedly inferior to them by orders of magnitude, on top of possessing the means to create things to create and destroy entire multiverses. And they didn't bat an eye at the latter.
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>>93216255
Fair enough.
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>>93215993
>Okay, does the fact that I am secretly a bugman on a spiritual level make a difference?”
Technically it’s on a Paracasual level which is DEEPER then spiritual, but I’m just complaining about semantics.
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Why the fuck does anyone use spoilers in /jc/? Do you actually think anyone here cares? No one else besides you even likes whatever garbage setting you're talking about.
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>>93216259
>he gets vaporized by the Time Vortex.
.... If the mechanics of this involve 'the companion looked into the heart of the TARDIS AGAIN', I'm going to riot.
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>>93216272
No, no. They literally drop him smackdab into the heart of the Time Vortex, which destroys him on contact.
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>>93216186
Because Kaguya, differently from Madara, was different from the antagonist just appeared, had a better reason for her power, yes she ate a fruit isn't too much but better than "Hashirama and Madara are simply built different" and paradoxically seemed less arbitrarily OP, she was incredibly powerful but Madara had costantly the answer to every threat against him for no reason, the most egregious of wich was the answer to Edo Tensei to free himself. I really like obfuscating stupidity so I liked Tobi and him as Madara, the reveal of his true identity wasn't that bad to me but his reasoning to do all his evil acts, among wich brainwashing Yagura and so continuing the bloody mist, manipulating Pain to form Akatsuki and the attack of the nine tails, wich exacerbated the relationship between Konoha and Uchiha and brought about the attempted coup and so the Uchiha genocide, makes him far too evil for a reason far too petty, for me to think him a simpathetic character like they want him, this partly because, like Oropo from Wakfu, other villain with wich i have the same problem, he was retconned into being the mind before many previous tragedies.
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>>93216269
Look, we're already having both a conversation about Fate and a conversation about Naruto. If you still can't engage with the thread, just bring up the stuff you like.
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>spoiler 1
Yeah there seems to be-and I don't say this lightly-so much inter-universe travel in Kamen Rider/Sentai/rangers stuff that it rivals actual comics. So yeah, interdimensional turnabout is fair play.

>spoiler 2
The answer of what it took in canon is so comically inadequate for what the fucker was hyped up as that it's why I'm here rambling with you guys instead of actually writing the build. God, RTD really wants the lore to work his way and only his way.

>spoiler 3
To be fair, a lot of people in Sentai/Kamen Rider seem like they'd benefit a lot from mood stabilisers.

>>93216206
I was going to save the real lore autism for the actual redux but if we're doing this now the entire Pantheon of Discord thing came off as mega ultra memberberries fanservice where RTD is just dropping random cosmic being names into a nice, easy to remember format to hype up his current villain. It's not like the Guardians of Time; a lot of those entities had nothing to do with each other and it's debatable if the Dream Lord/Trickster was even meant to be REAL until now. And honestly? It felt extremely unnecessary to wank Sutekh. The guy was already deemed unbeatable by the fucking pre-war Time Lords if he ever go tout of his tomb, and tbqh his Necron form was way more menacing than that goofy TARDIS-hunging bat-jackal thing. Even if I admit his villain voice is the correct amount of hamminess

In general I feel both the good and the bad of this season has been RTD being let completely off his leash with no oversight. Like the Doctor Tinkerbelling himself to escape the Master's clutches was tame compared to this.

>>93216218
>the white haired king
But Psycho.
Sephiroth is already multiverse-tier, courtesy of Rebirth. And also simultaneously weak enough to be driven off by a distinctly non-multiverse-tier Cloud as long as multiversal Aerith (forma de Avatar of the Lifestream) is running vague interference at the same time
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>>93216239
I am happy they at least are better than yours, I need little to be satified.
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>>93216218
Yes, that's always the real reason to cope, who cares about good storytelling.
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>>93216281
>Spoiler directed to me
Whatever. WoU and Soft and Wet Go Beyond solo the Nomuraverse.
>What does that have to do with anything
I dunno, I just feel like talking about it cuz I'm in a Jojolion kind of mood.
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>>93216198
>lore accurate Tarnished
Varies depending on which point of the game he's in. By the start you could probably put him down with a derringer pistol to the head (until he revives) By the end? Well...he's carrying so many Great Runes, has at the MINIMUM a competent set of armour and weapons, potentially has learned everything from Sellen's sorceries, to the Frenzied Flame, to weird shit like Godskin fames and dragon communion. And now that the DLC has shown you can potentially pick up the Remembrance of a fucking GOD before facing Morgott.

I mean shit man, it depends on how much you think "lore accurate Tarnished" actually accomplished before his story ends at either becoming Elden Lord, fucking off with Ranni or burning the world but I'd say he's a demigod in all but name at the very least and an actual god mongrelised with a fuckload of shit when he faces the Elden Beast. Mind you this doesn't mean as much as it thinks since Miquella has very definitely proven that this is a setting where you can totally beat gods to death and have it stick as long as the Erdtree isn't working properly even if you don't possess a god-killing knife or Destined Death.
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>>93216274
Well, alright then.
>>93216281
>Yeah there seems to be-and I don't say this lightly-so much inter-universe travel in Kamen Rider/Sentai/rangers stuff that it rivals actual comics. So yeah, interdimensional turnabout is fair play.
To be fair, places like Dino-Earth are notoriously locked up, what with the dimensional portal service being very spotty.
>To be fair, a lot of people in Sentai/Kamen Rider seem like they'd benefit a lot from mood stabilisers.
That is true, but Utsusemimaru is the only one who repeatably bawls on and body slams the person piloting their time travel machine, fucking up the timeline so bad that even after the Galactinsect version of Gira is defeated (who also is somehow immune to being time paradoxed out of existence?), someone has their dad replaced by their grandad.
>Like the Doctor Tinkerbelling himself to escape the Master's clutches was tame compared to this.
Final fuckingly, people are actually talking about the Jesus T-Posing and oh boy that's a statement to make.
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>>93216299
They did foreshadow his return though.
>The talk about going south vs north plus the lotus symbolism in that same scene
>Gojo's character arc of him being the strongest because he's him vs he's him because he's the strongest is unresolved, as he never got to answer that question while alive
>The whole talk of "Either one character will die or three will" out of the group of Yuji, Megumi, Nobara and Gojo could imply Gojo lives depending on interpretation
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>>93216286
I'm not the anon you're dick measuring with, I'm just entering this conversation to tell you that your arguments were bad and the only person who believes you got ahead is you. Feel free to be smug in the confines of your own tiny skull, retard
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>>93215408
Why are they so obsessed with mining.
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>>93216300
Oh yeah, definitely. Sephiroth is the lamest kind of "multiverse-tier" where he can comically fly between timelines on his one stupid wing, is the master of the Black Time Jannies and casually bust out transformation after transformation.

And without getting any similar wank except again for the vague and largely undefined resistance of Aerith/the Lifestream, Cloud is still pulling a COGji and just preserving through being manipulated, mindfucked and just plain whittled down to stride over and cleave his stupid smug face.

Yeah no if Sephiroth has to deal with anything more complex than a Buster Sword while also being undefinably delayed by the Aerithstream he's fucked, end of story. The fact that he actually couldn't kill Cloud at the end of Rebirth when he made Aerith's death a Canon Event is a massive L.

>>93216259
It's amazing if you think about it, in an indirect way RTD is wanking Rose Tyler (Forma de Bad Wolf) to be above almost every cosmic villain the Doctor has faced except a scant handful of EU beings that may or may not still be canon after Chibnall's dickery. Shit RTD, we got the message after seeing who the Moment (the greatest weapon in the entire Time Lord arsena) chose as her primary avatar. You don't need to rub it in. Rose is the Doctor's one true powerlevel waifu no matter how hard River Song tries, we get it.

Also I'm dead certain Mrs. Flood is the consciousness of The Beast/The Deathless Prince/Actually Satan given the trend of RTD hyper-wanking his own toys.

>>93216315
The BBC/RTD could dodge a LOT of criticism as long as the shippers and powerlevel lorefags were happy. Now neither is after Chibnall, RTD is double-triple-quadrupling down on throwing a tantrum where his toys/values are the best and shiniest, and increasingly it's hard to talk around the fact that both care more about the feel good vibes of an episode than whether or not it's actually coherent.
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>>93216317
Sorry, I didn't convey my meaning, I was saying I would like his return not for particular storytelling, just because I really like him, even more after last chapters.
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>>93216334
It's basically FF7 logic, the delicious lifestre-I mean, Fluxium does everything from create new lifeforms to purge necrium to power your car so mining is the most important industry across the multiverse.

And one of the major multiversal guilds may or may not be the in-universe equivalent of Shinra, it's not clear.
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>>93216331
No, I'm saying my arguments are better than your "your arguments are bad", the other at least brought reasoning.
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>>93216317
>symbolism
That particular cope reminds me of how people read a lot of symbolism in KLK and the insane kabbalah babble about Star vs, only for both to end up having nothing to do with it.
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>>93216341
>And one of the major multiversal guilds may or may not be the in-universe equivalent of Shinra, it's not clear.
Which one? The Noirmat?
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>>93216342
Anon, you don't deserve reasoning
You don't deserve to be treated with dignity
The other anon was stupid for doing more than summarily dismissing you
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>>93216347
Noirmat, yeah. Innocent until proven guilty, etc, but damn does the primer make them sound guilty.
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>>93216335
Well, even considering how bad this hive of scum and villainy can be, I'm glad that there aren't any unironic Rosefags here.
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>>93216355
The tiny, tiny silver lining to NuWho going all in on representation/diversity in the form of a female Doctor followed immediately by a zesty Doctor is that it has been a solid kick to the teeth towards anyone that ever tried to envision the Doctor in a heterosexual relationship. Of which Rosefags formed a vocal proportion.
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>>93216337
Oh, alright. That's cool.
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>>93216348
Thanks for conceding.
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>>93216346
The symbolism in question relates to Buddha and the cycle of reincarnation and everything about Gojo is a Buddha reference. His name literally means "enlightenment/enlightened one" and he calls himself the Honored One, which is him quoting Buddha. JJK is filled with references to Buddhism and Buddha, so the symbolism that also related to Buddha being intentional isn't much of a stretch.
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>>93216352
Keep in mind that the name of their multiversal archive directly shares the exact same name as the account(s) Daniel posts all of his artwork too, which includes images of major Viralborgia entities and dimensions (some with hard numbers like Sivanchron) and which at least one post by him was basically just a riff on the Borg's "you will be assimilated" line, but replacing Borg with "Codex Noirmatic".

Daniel and the primer are sort of insistent that there's nothing to damn them over YET and they've been a huge help to Udraiken so far, but you've got to wonder...
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>>93216359
It probably doesn't help that River Song is y'know, dead.
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>>93216366
This is the most absurd cope I've ever seen. My man, do you post on /a/? Have you actually been afflicted with brainrot? None of this is real, it's all stuff the fans made up
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>>93216366
Fun little reminder.
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>>93216388
No it isn't. "Throughout Heaven and Earth, I alone am the honored one" is just provably a Buddha reference. Satoru meaning enlightenment (or something like it) is also something that's provably true. Six eyes is a reference to the cycle of reincarnation just like how the Rinnegan is (both referencing the six realms of reincarnation) and the sage of six paths in Naruto is another character that's a Buddha analogue.
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>>93216392
Just because one series doesn't actually have symbolism doesn't mean another series doesn't. Are you trying to say no series in existence has symbolism? That doesn't follow.
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>>93207077
JUMP #0148: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers

+1000
Location: The moon
Age: rolled 1 + 12 = 13
Gender: Male
Origin: Monster (100)
Perks:
>Sculpting (free)
>Monsterspy (free)
>Alchemy (300)
Items:
>Armour [Import my armor] (100)
>Sword of Darkness [Import my sword] (100)
>Extreme Long Range Telescope (100)
>Monster-Matic (300)
>RadBug [Import my car] (300)
Drawbacks:
>Bulk and Skull (+0)
>10000 Years in Prison (+300)
Total: 1300/1300

Commentary: I really wanted to buy the Dragonzord but the rest of the drop in line is such a disappointment. So now Jumper instead furthers his monster creation powers. Also, since we have a Zeo jump nowadays this will be a shorter stay than normal.
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>>93216397
No. The Six Eyes are just a fucking Rinnegan reference. The Buddha quote was intentional but it was just to hype gojo up, there was no other intentional buddhism references and everything else was coincidental
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>>93216399
NTA but the point is that just because a series makes a reference doesn't mean there is necessarily a deeper meaning behind it.
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>>93216397
Open your fucking eyes for once, jesus christ
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>>93216375
>he doesn't know
Nonlinear character.
Genderfluid character now too lmao
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>>93216399
Yes. The curtains are blue and that's always what they'll mean.
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>>93216400
>this will be a shorter stay than normal.
I mean, you have to stay a century in a dumpster with Rita...?
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How would jumpers companions feel if jumper had to go on a trip for a month with no contact? Could they survive without jumper there to tardwrangle everyone?
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>>93216399
My dude, please be slightly more self-aware of how hard you're coping. Yes, a series can have symbolism. But, and I need you to pay attention here, symbolism does not always have a profound impact on the actual plot.

I mean go ahead and explain how any symbolism going into Kenjaku's character as well as how he was involved in the plot foreshadowed his defeat by Takaba.
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>>93216420
A month isn't long enough for the alliances to break down.
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>>93216409
I guess not. I still think at the very least the go north go south thing is such an obvious set up that it has to lead to something.
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>>93216429
>such an obvious set up that it has to lead to something
>it has to lead to something
Protip: Never read Kengan Omega.
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>>93216429
No it means nothing at all. Stop thinking about JJK, there's nothing to think about, it is a story with no real depth besides what you've imagined it to have. All of the nuances you think you see is just you being stupid and participating in mass hallucination.
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>>93216418
Poor wording on my part. The drawback moves my start date into the past and extends my stay but my free period is shortened.
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>>93216437
Listen, brother, I just got done reading a web novel about a revenge rape man and his revenge rape adventures. I'm well aware that setups can just not be paid off. I still have to assume the author will take the most logical path for their storytelling, the same way you have to assume your 200 ELO opponent will make the best move in chess.
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>>93216450
>I still have to
Psycho, and I say this without malice unlike some in thread because it is very clear to me there are things in life that have hurt you very much to lead you on this path you have chosen, why? Why do you have to put so much faith in a genre that gives so few shits for symbolism as anything but windowdressing, for an author that statistically is not afraid to kill off characters unceremoniously or in ways deemed controversial by his own fanbase? Shounen manga is not a game of chess. There is no opponent to style on with your 200 IQ control of the board. There are only unreasonable shounen jump deadlines, and the desperation of authors trying to write the next big hit by keeping the readers on their toes.

If you were going off on the symbolism of, say, Demon Slayer I would have nothing to say about it. Demon Slayer isn't exactly a deep story either but I can at least concede everything it has established, it has also paid off decently, and the symbolism there ties into the central themes and events of the story pretty well.

I am asking you to lower your expectations, for your own sake, because statistically JJK really hasn't.

>the same way you have to assume your 200 ELO opponent will make the best move in chess.
Also tell that to xqc blundering so hard in online chess that the meme jesus youtuber guy beat him and then started screaming about his cock throbbing.
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>>93216483
NTA, Demon Slayer is the most dogshit of dogshit shounen oh my god I have no idea how anyone thinks that shit was good. It fucking establishes nothing and pays off nothing, every single plot point is fucking pulled out of nowhere and then goes absolutely nowhere.
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>>93216496
Eh, like I said it's not exactly high art but I mean. Demons were a problem, kill demons, the demon slayers killed the demons I mean. I felt like it accomplished what it set out to do, even if not necessarily in a truly coherent way.

Father dance and the sister becoming randomly immune to sunlight were kinda out of nowhere but at least the central theme of people progressing by helping each other remained fairly consistent by my reading. Again it's not exactly a super complex story but it felt like one that at least knew the tone it wanted to stick with.

Except during the swordsmith village arc.

Also apparently many women want to get eaten by Douma
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>>93216532
The story is so full of plotholes and random bullshit that you have to have a hole where your brain is to enjoy it even if you're watching the anime. The manga has shit paneling so it's not even fun to turn your brain off. Where the fuck did the mark come from? How exactly is sun breathing better than every other form of breathing, why does the protagonist randomly have it? Why am I supposed to care when Rengoku dies, he was literally just introduced and had no personality.
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>>93216555
So, as someone who got into it from the anime

>Where the fuck did the mark come from?
Given the show established the japanese afterlife and heaven/hell are a thing, I just took it for granted the gods unironically blessed a random dude.
>sun breathing
It's hamon and it skips a couple generations I guess, like Naruto turning out to be related to a fuckload of important people
>Why am I supposed to care when Rengoku
Yeah I'm not gonna defend this one though, the author really wanted you to see Rengoku as the coolest guy in way too short a time despite him basically being a smiley face as a character.
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>>93216567
>I just took it for granted the gods unironically blessed a random dude
Why would you, it's never discussed by anyone at any point. The existence of the rest of Japan, or the implications of fucking ghosts, is discussed either
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>>93216567
>It's hamon and it skips a couple generations I guess, like Naruto turning out to be related to a fuckload of important people
That's not really a great example for "skipping a generation", since Naruto being the son of absolute shitkicking monsters meant that even excluding the reincarnation shit, he was gonna end up being incredibly powerful.
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>>93216582
NTA but there was clearly pletny of spiritual nonsense ongoing. Thinking Kami are a thing is not a great leap of logic.
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>>93216582
>>93216588
Yeah, it is pretty dumb when you put it like that kek. What's an objectively well-written shounen? Fire Force?
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>>93216594
*objectively well-written recent shounen

Also while it wasn't discussed in a coherent way, I was mainly thinking of all the afterlife sob story all the plot relevant demons get in their final moments and how much focus was put on it even though it wasn't really given a coherent explanation. Especially Daki having the option of going to "heaven" instead of joining Gyutaro in "hell"
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>>93216590
The problem is that the story never addresses the supernatural elements on more than a surface level. No exposition is certainly a choice, except there's a lot of exposition about character backstories that DO NOT MATTER
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>>93216594
Fullmetal Alchemist. I'm not sure if it's shonen or seinen, but that one is pretty much THE example of a manga that tied up all the loose ends, fulfilled its foreshadowing, didn't escalate unrealistically, remained coherent and internally consistent all throughout, and ended satisfactorily. I can't really think of any others that can meet it on every single one of those criteria.
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>>93216599
Nta but I would imagine it's to preserve the mysticism of it, while character backstories contestualize the actions characters take.
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>>93216610
>escalate unrealistically
What does this even mean? Why are people so against escalation?
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>>93216611
Mysticism is garbage storytelling. Mystery boxes aren't fucking good when J.J. Abrams is making a movie for Star Wars and it's not fucking good when you're making a battle manga, explain how shit works and make it detailed so I can actually buy it when you tell me that no one has ever killed an Upper Moon in a hundred fucking years yet Tanjiro and friends can do it on his first go at them
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>>93216610
I amended that with "recent" for a reason, but I don't disagree it was bretty gud.
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>>93216627
Yeah, Exalted 3e sucks.
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>>93216627
I don't know, I heard the midichlorians created an uproar because they "destroyed the mysticism of the force" same for many other cases. I know there are stories in wich I would like more explanations, like edens zero, and stories in wich I'm satisfied with the information given, like spirited away.
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>>93216627
Anon, a japanese manga generally doesn't need to explicitly explain japanese religious concepts like lingering spirits.
You're acting as if the ghosts are an elaborate power system. They are not.
Not every background element needs a big explanation.
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>>93216647
>You're acting as if the ghosts are an elaborate power system. They are not.
They're literally THE elaborate power system of dozens of different manga
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>>93216627
>>93216657
Honestly, you're just a fucking retard .
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casper the friendly ghost bad?
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>>93216619
Most people aren't against escalation, just bullshit jumps in power levels that are inconsistent with what was established beforehand.

If it's something you'd see in an MMO (we killed the Old Gods, but now the secret, eviler, more powerful Void Lords, who the Old Gods served, are here!), or Supernatural (Literal Actual God got BTFO but now we gotta deal with his bigger meaner older sister, Sammy!), then it's bad escalation.

When a manga does shit like "Minato was considered utterly unstoppable for his instant teleport+knife to spine combo" and then goes on later in the series to have the Tsuchikage that Minato was in opposition to capable of disintegrating matter on the scale of entire battlefields, thereby rendering Minato's feats mundane, and then going on to have shit like Naruto and Sasuke in energy-mechas and Literal Actual Godmode Madara, that kind of shit is bad shonen escalation.
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>>93216633
Still pissed that I was naive enough to buy the corebook for that game when it first dropped.
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>>93216647
Background elements that serve a major function of the world and plot deserve more explanation than background characters who die and then get a flashback
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>>93216675
It's karma for having ever liked Exalted in the first place.
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>>93216657
The ghosts in DS are basically used to give peptalks to characters to resolve their willpower. You're making this a way bigger deal than it is.
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>>93216619
I find it stupid and unfun when shit gets to "I throw 10 planets at you"
If you enjoy that, congrats, you have the mental age of a 10 year old.
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Would Super Amy have gold fur or pale pink?
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>>93216683
The ghosts in DS fucking taught Tanjiro Waterbreathing
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>>93216686
You're not asking because it's relevant to your chain, you're asking because the pic came up on your twitter feed or something and you have no friends so you come here with it right away. Kill yourself.
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>>93216675
It could be worse. You could be one of the damn fools that keep ensuring their splatbook kickstarters overshoot their goals and underdeliver on their promises because the current Exalted dev team runs on the freelancer model with people who are essentially the inmates running the asylum, and is managing by a pennypinching idiot who can't even afford UdonCrow's rates.

>>93216667
To be fair in Supernatural it was the opposite. God's bigger meaner older sister showed up, then the being older than both of them showed up, THEN God turned out to be a sick fanfiction writing fuck, and instead of actually overpowering said sister he basically talk no jutsu'd her into fusing with him so that he could regain his Super God powers from back when they were fused together as one being.

And then he jobbed to Jack's glorified Life Drain/failed a spot check because he was too buy getting off on pummelling his favourite characters for deviating from his script, like Gohanposter getting his hands on Gohan.
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>>93216680
As a teenager, Exalted 1e & 2e sounded like an incredibly cool game held back by impenetrable mechanics. 3e was, in theory, going to be the same game but with the advantage of a mechanics system crafted with the benefit of several decades of seeing what was worked, what didn't, and how to bridge the gap and fill in the cracks. That was not what 3e delivered to us though.
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>>93216678
You're juat a retard, then. When a priest in Western media performs an exorcism, a vampire is repelled by a cross, or a fucking angel visits the protagonist, only complete fucking retards who are incapable of reading between the lines expect the media to launch into a 5-hour theology lecture on the minutiae of heaven and hell, the nature of omnipotence, the spiritual anatomy of angels, etc. Almost no one fucking does that because the reader is assumed to share a similar cultural background and know that shit already because they're not an uneducated kindergartener.
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>93216702
>YOU'RE A RETARD BECAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T BE THINKING
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>>93216699
It is particularly painful because 3e does have a few good ideas like sorcerous workings and Supernal. The problem is they're buried under a system that is far, far more complicated than it needs to be, and because the writers seem unable to tell the difference between vagueness and mystique, and keep trying to tone everything down to make the setting more accessible for the dumbest D&D 5e players who literally can't imagine their characters interacting with anything except a human society-like community.
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>>93216718
Funny you say that when you yourself refuse to think. You've somehow fallen under the delusion that making inferences and extrapolations based on available evidence is less intellectual than asking literally everything be spoonfed to you like a retarded toddler.
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>>93216699
NTA, your problem was ever thinking Exalted even could have been good. The setting is bad, the mechanics are bad, so what else is there? It's just an illusion you cast on yourself.
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>>93216686
Obviously Rose Gold
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>>93216732
Anon, even Fromsoft games actually provide the information needed to piece their stories together. A story that demands you make shit up to explain what happens going off nothing is a bad fucking story, shut the fuck up
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>>93216690
>you're asking because the pic came up on your twitter feed or something and you have no friends
nta, but even if you have friends, a pic like that cant really be shared.
Unless you're in artist circles I get, sharing fanart(outside of memes) is pretty weird, especially sonic fanart which is pretty infamous.
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>>93216728
Nta but what makes that edition so bad? I don't know it well but I was thinking about using some aspect of it in my chain .
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>>93216667
So you're just bitching and moaning about nothing.
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>>93216732
>Funny you say that when you yourself refuse to think. You've somehow fallen under the delusion that making inferences and extrapolations based on available evidence is less intellectual than asking literally everything be spoonfed to you like a retarded toddler.
Yes, that's what a good story does.
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People these days will be self superior over having the weirdest fucking opinions
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>>93216686
Didn't they make Super Amy canon?
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>>93216750
Your inability to understand the point of that explanation does not detract from the fact that there was one.
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>>93216760
They did indeed, but in Sonic Origins where she's in her classic outfit.
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>>93216742
>>93216752
You're a dumbass whining about why a calculus textbook doesn't explain basic arithmetic to the reader. It's on you to do the homework and not expect iterative knowledge to constantly explain previous steps. There are hundreds of years of cultural context available that you should already understand. Lord of the Rings doesn't explain half of the shit in its plot; at best, you learn that shit from the Silmarillion. Moby Dick doesn't explain why the white whale is so powerful, you can assume it to be a freak of nature.
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>>93216765
There was no explanation. He just said it's bad because it's bad.
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>>93216770
I can smell this post through my screen
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>>93216749
There are certainly aspects worth incorporating but in general the books so far focus on the blandest and most inconsequential aspects of the setting, the mechanics are overdetailed for what they set out to do while simultaneously being very underwhelming for actually defining new concepts like what Exigent Charms should actually be like (compared to, say, Roll of Glorious Divinity setting out a generalised framework for spirit charms structures) and many examples of both mechanics and lore are deliberately or not deliberately left vague about how they actually interact. One key example being the corebook contradicting itself about whether or not Dragonblooded should be engaged as a mass combat unit by Solars (one section uses a unit of Dragonblooded as the highest example of Might, another says Exalted should never be treated as mass combat units)

Like I said, there are a few things I wouldn't blame anyone for incorporating. But as a whole, the whole thing seems incoherent and simultaneously afraid to change the setting too much while also rewriting characters to fit modern sensibilities (the Shoat of the Mire unironically wants to please the Dowager instead of being a trauma victim because THAT is apparently seen as more socially acceptable for example).

So far I would say the highlights of 3e have been Karvara, followed by the Sidereal charmset as a whole. Ironically for how concerned I was about Abyssals being stated to ape Deathlord themes, ultimately their charmset is a better tuned version of the Solar ones but I wish it diverged more desu. Because said themes are subtle enough to be flavourful and open new options to Abyssals that Solars lack.

But nope, 3e just CANNOT resist those fucking E5 Charms that do literally nothing except give you an extra Excellency roll and the devs have the gall to complain about their wordcounts being tightly packed. Something that could easily be solved with an E5 Excellency upgrade.
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>>93215684
>no magic
You're right, that should be the default for all chains. In fact, I'm making an official ruling that anyone who ever took a magic perk instantly failed their chain the moment they set foot in the jump.
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>>93216749
The system is overly complicated and suffered from far too little editing oversight. Which can be summarized fairly well by the corebook itself; the thing is 662 pages, and should've been 300 at most.
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>>93216795
>>93216808
So why don't Chadly fans of previous editions use their superior non-pozzed competence to get into the Onyx Path/White Wolf/[insert whatever it is right now] writing team and get paid to fix it?
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>>93216816
Exalted has Chad no fans.
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>>93216808
>the thing is 662 pages, and should've been 300 at most
Do you know where you are? The more words, the better. Only illiterates want less words. Words are like gold leaf. Keep piling that shit on-it can only enhance the value.
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>>93216816
Because most of them said Fuck That Shit and continued to make homebrew for 2e, because they'd already invested years into making that work for themselves, so they had no incentive to start from scratch and do so with 3e.

Plus the worry about getting tarred and feathered with the same brush that Holden and Morke were, because those guys were homebrewers that got hired by WW/OPP, and were the original minds that set the direction of 3e; despite having been fired in disdain for the damage they'd done to the line both mechanically, narratively, and in the public's eye (by publicly bullying, disparaging, and otherwise shitting on what was previously an incredibly loyal playerbase, and making the brand look bad to prospective newbloods), the likelihood of other longtime homebrewers being brought on only for a possible repeat was a worry many people had, including the business itself.
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>>93216816
Fans of prior editions are unironically too intelligent.
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>>93216830
You misunderstand. It's not that it's got too many words, it's that it's got too many USELESS words. It's not big cause it's comprehensive, it's big cause it can't stop masturbating to itself.
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>>93216847
USELESS words? No such thing. Only those who hate reading could possibly think a description should be made more concise.
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>>93216747
I meant as in, he has no social interaction so gets it from posting random shit here.
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>>93216819
Shard Chad? CHADE? Chadhunter? Skyrim Chad?
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>>93216770
>Lord of the Rings doesn't explain half of the shit in its plot;
Such as? Other than bombadil and why the eagles wont fly to mordor I dont remember any plothole type shit?
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>>93215789
>Item Idea: German Engineering (Cybernetics) Manual that teaches whomever reads it how to pull off the bullshit that made a German Cyborg in WW2.
>Drawback Idea: STUPID AS FUCK STAND LIMITATION (One of your Stand effects only happen on what you punch)
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>>93216728
I can't help but notice that Exalted fans consider an idea "good" if it enhances the power fantasy (i.e. makes their characters more powerful) and "bad" if it diminishes the power fantasy (i.e. limits the abilities of their characters).
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>>93216741
You remind me that we have the Jump where we can kill all the Fanfiction characters we hate and I'm happy, thank you anon. Now I will go make a Protectors of the Plot Continuum Jump build because the idea of killing the fuck out of Mary Sues while being an overpowered self-insert original charcter (taking into account drift from the base state that the Jumper would undergo due to decades of time) is just great.
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>>93216891
Exalted 1e was a mess that couldn't decide what Exalts were. On one hand, you had the Bull of the North defeating a Great House, that one campaign where a half dozen young Alchemicals and one Abyssal conquered half the South and invaded the Blessed Isle in only a few months. On the other, you had a dozen of elder Solars who couldn't defeat an army of a few hundred demons, an elder Solar who has spent the last hundred years trying and failing to conquer an unoccupied city, the suggestion that random bandits can kill a Solar, an admonishment to think about what your character will do after they retire, and the Lunars. People liked the first, because the second is just a low quality DnD ripoff, so 2e tried to play into it.

But because that fanbase is already there, 3e has no reason to try to appeal to them. Instead, they can write low power mechanics (because fuck actually trying to write a game with powerful cultivators who your party can nonetheless triumph over) and vague contradictory lore (in order to shut down criticism that might interfere with kickstarter profits.) So yeah, principally good = powerful in this game about epic heroes and god kings.
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>>93216915
The lolis will abduct you for their man-milk farm.
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>>93216915
Fear is full of things that you don't understand but must be taken into account. The Sun rises in the east. The east has been burning for a while now. Fallen soldiers can be found under the mountains. Find your way along the roads that once connected the worlds. This message will not repeat.
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>>93216920
>vague contradictory lore
could you give examples?
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>>93216920
That's the core problem with Exalted. Power is inherently bad in games, devs shouldn't indulge players when they ask for it.
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>>93216915
Good morning!
>Woke up early with dread for some reason.
Don't open it.
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In the alchemical jump do you need to buy being a patropli to have a "capstone boost" or can you grow into it? By the wording it seems the second but want to be sure.
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>>93216915
Morning. Had a nap a couple hours ago and woke up remembering a jump that I'm pretty sure doesn't actually exist. The best I can describe it is being an older generic with a lot of nice, niche options that weren't too overpowered.
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Getting this out of the way now, given the scope of shit in EoH what do you think is appropriate pricing for vampires, Pillarmen and being an ultimate lifeform?
I figure
>100 vampire
>300 Pillarman
>600 Ultimate Lifeform
would be appropriate, but I'd appreciate the feedback.
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>>93216949
The sword not drawn rusts in its sheath. The unwanted path is the only one taken by fools with no ambition. A foundation of dreams has become a factory of misery hiding the rotting foundations. This message will not repeat.
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>>93216971
So I dont know the setting, what is the difference?
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Any relatively low-power jumps other than Supidaman and Marvel to get a danger sense? Bonus points for actually existing in the setting rather than merely being fiat.
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>>93216939
Are Exigents a well known phenomena with consistent results, or a totally miraculous thing that happens unpredictably at the whim of the Unconquered Sun?

Yes, because it says right there that Exigents can't be relied on or mass produced in plain text. You're banned for complaining about the characters being dumb for not noticing a way to mass produce celestial tier Exalts because you obviously didn't read the book.

Yes, because the city fathers can get a new member of their Exigent splat on demand and nobody cares. You're banned for complaining that Exigents are entire splats for one individual character because you obviously didn't read the book.
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>>93216922
That would fill me with hope and anticipation
>>93216934
I think I just fear getting tossed into the streets.
>>93216949
Hi psycho. Have you read index or railgun? I want someone capable to help me refine some stuff
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>>93216962
The shell of the realm is flat to those inside it, round to those outside. Your cellar structure is built off fission reactions, harness it. Master the body with the mind to harness your ephemeral ego as fuel for the flames of your ambitions. This message will not repeat.
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>>93216934
>>93216974
>>93216992
Reported for spam.
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>>93216983
>what is the difference?
Eyes of Heaven is a noncanon spinoff game where DIO pretty much becomes a god and is so strong he no sells both Tusk Act 4 and GER. There's Requiem stands, heaven stands, holy corpse parts and there's just generally every OP thing in JoJo except Calamity and Go Beyond is present and accounted for.

If you don't know what any of that means, it's JoJo Smash Bros so ultimate Kars isn't that big a deal.
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>>93216962
Sounds kinda cool.
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>>93216991
>I think I just fear getting tossed into the streets.
Those who do not look deeply will find the mirror shallow. This message will not repeat.


>>93217000
And they named me Cassandra, for they had no other name for things like me. This message will not repeat.
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>>93215789
My GOD, do you have any idea the cheer scope of what you will have to do to make it decent?
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>>93216991
>Hi psycho. Have you read index or railgun?
Unfortunately not. I apologize.
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>>93216971
They seem all really cheap to me
>>93216983
Vampires:biokinesis really advanced, fear the sun, can do things like shoot beams of pressurized blood from their eyes or fight as an head
Pillar mans: same as before but much better, can petrify theemselves to protect themesleves from the sun and use biokinesis on others if they touch them
Ultimate lifeform: every power existing in nature, can do things like grow wngs, a stratified armor that allow them to swim in lava or turn their hand into a squirrel that chew metal, defeated only sending him to space and he hybernated.
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>>93216971
I would say 200, 400, and 800.
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>>93217020
Well go check it out. It's less damaging than redo of the raped.
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>>93216971
The story has higher stakes as far as I know, but aren't the characters mostly on the same level until the climax?
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>>93216915
I woke up from a nightmare, only to get one from my "job". I'm stressed and tired.
Weeeepeeee.

>>93216949
What a nice coffin. I wonder what's inside. Couldn't be dangerous.
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>>93217032
How's the jump coming along?
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The transmissions signal are backwards, only method of leaving only one trail. The Chain can carry the reverberations back to only one point, Home, take heed. Obfuscation is necessary, symbolic drift a symptom of loss in coherence. This message will not repeat.
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>>93217030
Seconded, they are really powerful.
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>>93216984
My Hero Academia got this tier 3 quirk
>Quirk 5 (Auto-Pilot): The Quirk user gains a secondary intelligence within their brain that scans the five senses of the user to the absolute extent of what is possible for them to perceive, even if the user doesn’t understand the information like it does.
>If danger is detected by this intelligence, it will temporarily take over and help the Quirk user dodge or counter. While less than impressive in words, it offers supernatural levels of threat and damag avoidance that may see the Quirk user walk away from a stroll through a battlefield unscathed.
>The Quirk user may shut off or suppress their autopilot if needed. The Quirk user may synchronize with their secondary intelligence, massively enhancing their senses and processing power for a short time. >Synchronization however is extremely taxing on the mind.
personally I'd combine it with this tier 2 quirk, but it's pretty good on its own.
>--Quirk 3 (Trajectory): The user of this Quirk casts a 20-meter by 20-meter cube shaped grid of awareness around them made up of numerous smaller blocks just four centimeters wide each.
>The user of this Quirk measures speed, rotation, mass, shape and trajectory of anything that passes through one of the six walls of one of these smaller cubes, allowing them to calculate where it came from, where it’s going and how fast it’s going to get there.
>The more walls something passes through, the easier it becomes to predict and react to it. This Quirk can quickly allow the user to measure and adapt their motions to become more and more precise.
>The nature of this Quirk means information doesn’t come in smoothly. If something for whatever reason instantly changes direction while inside a cube, the user’s predictions can actually cause them to be caught off guard.
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>>93217048
I have to worry about assignments and work rn so no progress.
Despite saying that I'm actually behind in those too...
>>93217046
Sorry to hear that
>Pic
Looks like a fertile elf slave lmao
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>>93217040
Well, here's the thing, right? Everything's relative. Being Ultimate Kars is gonna be less valuable in this than it would be in Part 2 because in Part 2 there wasn't GER, Tusk act 4 and reality warping DIO running around. The question then becomes how valuable it is relative to those things.
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>>93217065
Are you handing those things out or just the means to get to that level?
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>>93217063
>Looks like a fertile elf slave lmao
Yes, but with a few extra steps.
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>>93217065
I could argue that the ultimate lifeform, if it can perceive and interact with stands, could defeat Tusk act 4
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>>93217072
I was just gonna straight up sell them as perks unlike in the previous jump. There will likely be a scenario about becoming the hypothetical God DIO that would've existed if he'd gotten all the corpse parts, but you have to beat the whole Joestar bloodline in the process (potentially complete with asspull Jotaro).
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>>93216971
And Gone To Heaven would be what?
Also remember that being Ultimate Lifeform make your immortal and invincible. It's been "recently" discovered that if Kars knew about a specific type of bugs, he could have gone away from space and survived it.
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>>93217065
It's Jojo, everything was always relative. Still find it funny that Wonder of U organized the whole Eyes of Heaven plotline to prevent itself from being deleted. Catastrophe goes crazy hard.
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>>93216915
>pic
It's incredible how if Crow didn't exist, she would easily be the most hated character.

NIkke Jump soon?
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>>93217054
Nta but thats half the build I went for with my quirk. Autopilot + trajectory + need4speed + vectors. I have been told it basically would be a small domain in jjk, just a zone of beatdown where I can manhandle anything that enters my sphere.

The mha jump is really fun for just brainstorming combos. I love it.
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>>93217063
>Sorry to hear that
I genuinely want to go to sleep with some sleepingpills.

>Looks like a fertile elf slave lmao
See, it's true too, but I looked at it and seen her eyes, and it gives of the effect of her being either mad or fucking tired too.

Something something, neromashin jump when ahahahah
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>>93217089
Well yeah, so can the World. It's more about the fact that Tusk act 4 is this insane thing capable of bypassing any barrier and that will infinitely spin whatever it touches. What it is fundamentally is crazier even if it can lose in a matchup, because JoJo is very matchup dependent as a series.
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>>93217104
Nta and maybe I'm assuming, but doesn't Johnny lose Tusk when using Tusk Act 4? Valentine tell him to "Stop, you won, I give up", and he's released from the Tusk loop.
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>>93217095
Ageless, yeah. Immortal, no. insanely hard to harm, yeah. Invincible, no. Ultimate Lifeform is cool, but its not that good in comparison to a Stand, the Spin, or even Hamon. Heck, it's so weak it has to use Hamon hacks to finish off Jojo and he still managed to get around it via Fate and his Stand.
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>>93217104
Ok, undrstandable pint of view, I prioritize versatility in my interests rather than sheer insanity but I understand it's only my priority in my builds.
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>>93217095
>Gone to Heaven would be what?
I was thinking something like
>Over Heaven Stand -1200
>Requiem Stand - 1000
>Regular Heaven Stand - 800
Heaven stand could maybe be equalized with Requiem stand, though generally Requiem stands are treated as superior by the series.
>Immortal and invincible
Even if you're immortal and invincible you could still lose to someone like Rohan or Vanilla Ice, so it isn't that much better than top tier normal stands except for the versatility.
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>>93215789
Will there be a purchase/scenario for an "Over Heaven" Stand?
Maybe a general perk for completely nonsensical physical traits like Dio inexplicably being purple. Maybe something for power-ups being accompanied by similar aesthetic transformations.
Something for manipulating people with extremely prideful or diverse personalities to fight on your behalf.
Seconding >>93216028's suggestion for giving people happy endings.
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>>93217122
What the fuck are you talking about? Kars literally just played with Joseph.

>Immortal, no
This is like, the entire thing of "Kars stopped thinking".
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>>93217129
Is there a difference between Over Heaven and Heaven? I thought Over Heaven was simply DIO who used the Heaven ritual instead of Pucci.
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>>93217122
TULs can regen from a single cell.
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>>93217118
That never happened at all. Nothing can stop an infinite rotation except another infinite rotation in the opposite direction, he keeps Tusk and in fact he dies using Tusk on his son to cure him of a disease when Calamity claps back by dropping a rock on his head.
>>93217096
Yeah, Wonder of U and Go Beyond are unironically stronger than Over Heaven DIO somehow.
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>>93217140
It's at least some kind of Heaven+. Even if it's fundamentally the same thing, it's so much stronger that it kinda has to be its own tier anyways.
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>>93217132
>Will there be a purchase/scenario for an "Over Heaven" Stand?
>>93217129
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>>93217063
Post wip.
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>>93217163
Yeah. I saw that right after making that post.
Why is there so much cuntboy Heaven Ascended Dio art? I had to sort through multiple before finding a pic I wanted to use for that post.
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>>93217147
Go Beyond even if it is more conceptually BS than TWOH I wouldn't say it is stronger, and with the power and versatility of TWOH it would be possible to defeat even WOU by using its limitation.
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>>93217133
>What the fuck are you talking about? Kars literally just played with Joseph.
The one who survived is Jojo, the one defeated is Kars.
The reason the defeat happened is Fate.
Jojo's 'hand just moved' is was via Gravity, the weight of Fate.
In this way Kars was visited by Catastrophe, the end of things that prevent Wonder of U.
Thus, Wonder of U defeated Kars.

>This is like, the entire thing of "Kars stopped thinking".
While strong the being you speak of is still mortal.

>>93217142
And thus it can be slain.

>>93217147
>Yeah, Wonder of U and Go Beyond are unironically stronger than Over Heaven DIO somehow.
Of course, the proper course of causality that will always result in the ending of all things that threaten it and 'that which does not exist' are amazingly powerful things.
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>>93217155
I thought The World Over Heaven was limited to localized phenomena, unlike Made in Heaven which affects the whole universe all at once?
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>>93217129
>Over Heaven Stand -1200
>Requiem Stand - 1000
Honestly seems pretty fair, maybe even underpriced, since Over Heaven is "rewrite and alter reality (and get infinite Stop Time and LASER BEAMS FROM THE SKY)" and Requiem Stand is "What you want, what you need, in an absurdly overpowered and specific way, while boosting the stats of your stands to high HEAVENS".
While Regular Heaven Stand is just your overpowered, world/universe destroying/altering Stand.

>>93217140
Heaven is the process of going to Heaven made by Dio but used by someone else. Over Heaven is the actual final goal way after Heaven.

>>93217147
By losing, I mean losing until Valentine is gone from the loop. Valentine's words and Johnny's nail regrowing slowly seems to imply that.
Or Valentine really was a tryhard who is forever stuck in this dimension, and Johnny still got Tusk at him, and just needed his nail to "reload". Araki mind.

>Yeah, Wonder of U and Go Beyond are unironically stronger than Over Heaven DIO somehow.
If that was the case, DIO Over Heaven wouldn't be there.
Oh you are saying that it's because Araki hadn't wrote them yet? Naaaaaah it couldn't be iiiiiit...

But seriously, when you got Reality Altering fists that alter everything in every universes... yeah I can see Over Heaven beating them.
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>>93217183
Yeah, no. Well yeah I can see it, but you are using theories. Theories aren't canon.
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>>93217179
I agree if DIO was actually trying he'd beat Gappy with Go Beyond, but this dude literally never tries until it's too late.
>WoU
Heaven DIO is still subject to the flow of Calamity and therefore he can't hit WoU. He also can't kill WoU because it is a fundamental law of reality that it must exist. You could argue that he can beat it because he could rewrite reality, but that clearly has some limits because he can't just make more corpse parts or punch a rock and turn it into "object that gives me all the corpse parts".

Overall, Wonder of U is Fate and Fate literally beats DIO in this very game.
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>>93217193
>If that was the case, DIO Over Heaven wouldn't be there.
Why not? If they don't interact it isn't a problem.
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>>93217217
What part of conquering multiple universes didn't you get?
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>>93217212
Yes It's obviously stronger, what I was saying is making Tooru pursue you and kill him like that, the calamity will keep existing but WoU, the ability to manipulate Tooru will be defeated.
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>>93215789
>>93217212
Will there be an option to take the place of a canon character?
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>>93217078
Them elves are crazy, man.
Crazy I tell you.
>>93217097
You will to ask someone else. I don't play the game or know the lore
>>93217102
Man, wageslaving is really the only way these days..try to not die, anon.
>>93217169
When I have enough for a wip
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>>93217193
DIO over Heaven actually doesn't have infinite time stop and there's no evidence that he does.
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>>93217243
NTA but if not then why do people keep saying he does? I feel like I see that claim all over discussions of TWOH.
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>>93217236
Oh it's not wageslaving, it's a special, but normal job.
How to say this...
Having someone to take care off suffering and screaming because of what seems to be articular pain, isn't fun.
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>>93217253
I dunno. It's probably some fanon based off DIO saying in Part 3 that he'd eventually be able to stop time for as long as he wanted, so people extrapolate that as proof he now has infinite time stop because this is a DIO who won part 3 in his universe.
>>93217234
Uh, maybe?
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>>93217243
Actually looking at, you are right.
But it's not shown the actual limit of it, and DIO said that his Time Stop would grow longer and longer with time, and considering that Dio Over Heaven is super old and doesn't seems to have the One Hour limit from Jorge Joestar...
It would still be pretty big, and makes you wonder why he doesn't kill people instantly.
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>>93217254
Ah, nursing.
At least your job is helpful to society and something worth doing even if it's not as glamorous as it should be
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>>93217201
The facts are not theories.
Catastrophe visits all threats to Wonder of U, even those that stop it from coming into existence in the first place.
This is why Jojo had to kill himself with Perfect Spin while performing a Miracle of stealing Causality, in order to create the 'thing that does not exist' and leave it waiting for the correct time when the attack could hit.
None of this is anything but evidenced and factually shown truths of the world in which DIO and Kars both are subject to.
Amazing how strong the Spin is in comparison to all the other powers, but such as it is.

>>93217212
>Overall, Wonder of U is Fate and Fate literally beats DIO in this very game.
Indeed.

>Heaven DIO is still subject to the flow of Calamity and therefore he can't hit WoU.
Agreed. Though I find it funy that we must hve read different translations because all I remember Wonder of U ever using is the term Catastrophe still both meanings fit so I guess it was just a localization issue on someone's part at some point.
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>>93217268
Not exactly nursery but basically nursery.
At least I don't have impots or taxes to pay! Ahahah...
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>>93217266
>makes you wonder why he doesn't kill people instantly.
The same reason he didn't kill the stardust crusaders instantly and just trolled Polnareff on the staircase instead. He's a cocky asshole, likely tuned up by a million considering he's now effectively a god.
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>>93217275
Anon, keep your fanon out, and stop being retarded. The discussion is already difficulty without butting it and saying "OOOOOOH YEAH ARAKI TOTALLY THOUGHT OF FATE AND WOU AND GO BEYOND BEFORE EVEN PART 2".
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>>93217279
Don't worry anon. We all know it's wageslaving. Don't worry, we all live for the paycheck and use the paycheck to live.
W
hat a sad affair this is ...
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>>93217275
>Catastrophe visits all threats to Wonder of U, even those that stop it from coming into existence in the first place.
>This is why Jojo had to kill himself with Perfect Spin while performing a Miracle of stealing Causality, in order to create the 'thing that does not exist' and leave it waiting for the correct time when the attack could hit.
>None of this is anything but evidenced and factually shown truths of the world in which DIO and Kars both are subject to.
>Amazing how strong the Spin is in comparison to all the other powers, but such as it is.
Ironically, all of this is just a popular theory and not really stated in canon.
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>>93217288
I have asserted no such thing as to say that Araki did or did not plan for these things. I am merely stating the facts as they are in the setting, not that the creator of the media did it purposefully.
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>>93217283
Orrrr, because the ending is kind of a very low point.
What the fuck kind of ending is this? The Same Kind of Stand, again?!
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>>93217301
In which case, everything everyone is saying is true.
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>>93217190
>>93217300
Not to be pushy, but am I just misremembering how TWOH works?
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>>93217296
Do note I'd say not exactly.
Man, the day my charge die, I will be crushed by heavier depression.
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>>93217314
Not really no. It's just that since it was written before Jojolion's last arcs, and was seemingly made without any knowledge of it, people are trying to put them in the canon of EoH.
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>>93217314
TWOH is capable to reality warp anything it touches with it's fists and stop time.
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>>93217300
>Ironically, all of this is just a popular theory and not really stated in canon.
The facts are in place, perhaps not planned out by the hand that wrote the fate into the world, but all of these things 'just happened' by the hand of Fate, acted upon by the power of Gravity, and ended by Catastrophe. It is the nature of the thing that was written in setting, not theory.

>>93217310
I am simply stating the facts. Kars is neither immortal nor invincible, is subject to Catastrophe, and was defeated by Jojo because his 'hand just moved'. Those who assert that Kars is both immortal and invincible are incorrect in their facts.
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>>93217314
I'd need to actually watch a playthrough of the story to answer that. I'm just going off stuff I've seen and heard from various places.
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>>93217328
Oh, I wasn't specifically talking about the WoU stuff. I just linked to that because it was Psycho's most recent reply.
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>>93217333
>THE FACTS
>THE FACTS.
My God, shut up with your headcanons. Have at least the balls to say what they are..
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>>93217336
Have you not even played the game you're making a jump for?
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>>93217346
No, I haven't. It's just like with Sonic and the Black Knight.
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>>93217343
He's right though, causality defeated Kars and Kars wasn't immortal, in fact if he didn't protect himself he would have died in the volcano.
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>>93217352
Or Redo of Healer.
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>>93217343
I do have the balls to say as such. The headcanon that Ultimate Lifeform Kars is immortal and invincible is utter drivel, the fact that the function of Wonder of U does a lot to fill in plot holes that accumulated over the canon is simply factual. Evidenced parts of the canon are not headcanon.
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>>93217336
>I'm just going off stuff I've seen and heard from various places.
That's a... Vogue way to make jumps...
>>93217315
Man am I the only one living out of paycheck and kindness of family?

...why do I suck so much?
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>>93217360
>Man am I the only one living out of paycheck and kindness of family?
...I'm living out of the paycheck and kindness of society.
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>>93217360
>Man am I the only one living out of paycheck and kindness of family
No you’re not alone
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>>93217356
Listen here, you little shit, I read 1700 pages of that drivel just to make the jump. Kiss my ass.
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>>93217360
As an actual neckbeard waste of space that still lives with his folks, you're not too bad Ricrod. The fact that I don't think I've ever been suicidal is something impressive to me, because I think I have all the hallmarks of being set up for it. Anyway, I'm going to get back to the fun imagination game now and hope that this cheers you up, grim humor and all that.
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>>93217369
And you didn't even manage to get 50 pages out of it.
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>>93217360
>That's a... Vogue way to make jumps...
I'm gonna watch a playthrough of the story mode, it's not like I'm making it based off nothing.
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>>93217355
>causality
Please, shut up, it's starting to become a meme.

>if he didn't protect himself he would have died in the volcano.
Iirc, he wouldn't, he would have been stuck. Same thing really.

>>93217357
You don't. WoU wasn't there. Fate wasn't there. At best and worst, it was an asspull.
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>>93217369
I know I know and you didn't tell me the ending or answerer ALL my questions, I was mocking him a bit, not you.
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>>93217374
>The fact that I don't think I've ever been suicidal is something impressive to me
>be me
>with crippling stress and depression
Is everyone tougher than me or what? The next step is trying to kill myself or posting on twitter.
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>>93217381
WoU wasn't there, you're right, never argued it was, since part 8 and part 2 are different universes with nothing in common, it stays that since Kars was killed by things in the order of causality WoU would defeat him.
>he wouldn't, he would have been stuck.
I need to check again, but I'm almost sure that the volcano would have killed him
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If Kars's eyesight as good as a telescope, how come he got fooled by a dummy parachute?
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>>93217377
I'm not inherently opposed to making a jump for a game you haven't personally played, but you probably should have watched it before making the claim. This game really doesn't have much meat on its bones beyond "what if Dio was back and all these fan favorite characters from different parts fought?". It'll probably end up feeling like a weird Frankenstein's monster of all your other Jojo jumps than something wholly its own. But hey, maybe that's exactly what you're going for. I'm not gonna stop you.
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>>93217383
>Spoiler
To be fair, you sent me like 50 questions.
>I was mocking him a bit, not you.
Alrighty then.
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>>93217394
>WoU wasn't there, you're right, never argued it was
>it stays that since Kars was killed by things in the order of causality WoU would defeat him.
Then how did he destroyed multiple universes with it?

>I need to check again, but I'm almost sure that the volcano would have killed him
You gave me an olive branch, so I'll do the same, I'm not sure either because I don't know how lava would have worked.

>>93217403
Araki forget things really fast.
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>>93217408
>To be fair, you sent me like 50 questions.
And I want them answerer. You broke my HEART!
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>>93217381
Fate actually was there. In part 2 Lisa Lisa says they can't destroy the red stone because it's destined to bring about the end of the Pillarmen. Fate was even in part 1 with Will's whole "facing his destiny" thing. Fate has always been a major theme in JoJo.
>>93217404
The Frankenstein's monster thing is actually what I wanted, honestly. The idea of making an "EVERYONE IS HERE" type jump seemed fun.
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>>93217381
>Iirc, he wouldn't, he would have been stuck. Same thing really.
You recall incorrectly. He would have burned to carbon and been destroyed had he not created the shell. That was the point of making the shell in fact.

>You don't. WoU wasn't there. Fate wasn't there. At best and worst, it was an asspull.
1. Even Jojo didn't understand, see pic related. It just happened.
2. It was an asspull and a small plothole filled later.
3. I didn't assert that Wonder of U was a thing, just that it, in setting, makes things like this have a canonical casuality that makes a horrific type of sense.

>>93217394
>WoU wasn't there, you're right, never argued it was, since part 8 and part 2 are different universes with nothing in common, it stays that since Kars was killed by things in the order of causality WoU would defeat him.
Agreed.
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>>93217410
>Then how did he destroyed multiple universes with it?
When did WOU destroy multiple universes? Anyway I think the universe from part 1to part 6 aren't canon to 7-9.
>You gave me an olive branch, so I'll do the same, I'm not sure either because I don't know how lava would have worked.
rereading the narration said that with his shell it's possible to survive a volcano for some minute, implying the volcano could eventually kill him.
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>>93217390
I was gonna kill myself a couple times when I was a teenager.
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>One can stay active for a few minutes
desu Joseph could have defeated Kars if he sent him into an even bigger volcano, that'd take more than a few minutes to get out of.
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>>93217435(me)
>>93217439
Thanks for posting the image, I can't.
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What are some of the best luck perks across the chain?
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>>93217439
Not only does it say he defeated the Earth there, but it even says he's a God. This easily puts Kars at either planetary or outerversal levels of power.
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>>93217445
One of the Kamen Rider jumps has a luck perk so strong it'd let you survive unassisted freefall from orbit.

Danganronpa has Ultimate Luck, which is about as absurd
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>>93217422
>>93217435
>>93217439
You proved me wrong, I still think bringing WoU and Go Beyond is dumb, but you proved me wrong, and I kneel.

>When did WOU destroy multiple universes
Dio Over Heaven.
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[Doctor Who redux]

We found the reason why Earth had been recreated. The One Who Waits' full, undiluted divine attention was so fixed on a specific random runaway young mother giving away her random daughter that it actually warped reality with the, the fucking pressure of his sheer power or some shit. The point was the memory was powerful enough to manifest tangible phenomena if viewed through a time window or something similar and the rest of the Earth had kind of formed around it. And more importantly, the TARDIS that was there during said event.

"Bloody hell, THAT'S the vehicle I would've explored all of time and space in if Techeun had succeeded at lobotomising me into a white woman?!" exclaimed Wimey.
"Yep"
"The bloody break's still on! And why is it still disguised as a police box in 21st century Britain?! With how many controversies the Metropolitan Police Force have accrued recently the poor thing's basically been set up as a hate crime victim! I bet the streets are full of people who'd try to deface this poor timeship simply for being an icon of British culture!"
"Your potential incarnation was a man, and once a woman, of many eccentric tastes" I said. We were viewing this particular event NOT using a Chaldea-style spiritron rayshift mechanism because those things went awry more often than Star Trek holodecks-which is really saying something-but through my Phenomena Intervention powers from Blazblue to stabilise and layer with conceptual countermeasures anything powerful enough to pierce the veil of time.

But as I calculated the flow of cause and effect, I realised something so powerful it warped the future in it's passing was beginning to turn it's eyes towards it's origin point.

Ah.

Here came the ominous smoke of a true villain. Three minutes to think up countermeasures, two minutes to lay them down, one to protect my compani-

"How curious. You are NOT the Doctor"

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>>93217451
You are behind, since he has the power of every living creature he obviously has all the stands, as the absolutely canon Jorge joestar showed, and can tank the destruction of the universe 36 times, moreover he's so charismatic that he can convince the stands to betray their owners.
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>>93217465
The One Who Waits, father and mother and other to the entire Pantheon of Discord turned out to be Sutekh. Last and most terrible of the Osirans. A being that in life was already deemed impossible to stop by /the Time Lord civilisation at it's peak/, and after his supposed death from being sent forth into the Time Vortex to his demise had actually clung invisibly to the TARDIS through every twist and turn of history, every adventure. Yes, that time House nearly ate the TARDIS? Sutekh was there. The part where the TARDIS exploded? Sutekh presumably clung on to it's pieces. The time the Dream Lord took over the TARDIS? Well, the Dream Lord is actually one of Sutekh's children, and so is the Toymaker, and so is the Mara. For you see. Long exposure to the Time Vortex evolved Sutekh retroactively into an actual, no-bullshit god of hyperdeath so powerful it calls itself the god of gods and judging from the reaction of the Toymaker (again, a guy who claimed to have gambled with Actually God and won) his children agree with that definition

...

"Run, Wimey" I said quietly, in Edenic

"I can't just leave you-"

"That wasn't a request" I said, as the true language banished her to a safe place.

"Is that nobility I smell on you? Such hypocrisy. I watched you slay Gallifrey in it's infancy" it drawled, oozing so much villainy it might as well have had an actual moustache to twiddle.

"We both know someone's about to die here"

"No. Everyone is. Every place the TARDIS has been, has a version of a woman called SUSAN I created in the image of the so-called First Doctor's granddaughter. In truth, the construct is my angel of death! The fuse by which I will snuff out all life, ALL that can be said to live in this universe. Forever" he gloated, one such angel of death creeping out form within the TARDIS.

I weighed my options.

"Go ahead, punk. Make my day" I said finally.

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>>93217460
Since when WOU and Dio Over Heaven are connected?
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"If you insist. I confess you've scored quite the victory" said Sutekh hatefully, "for how could my plan of revenge account for THE DOCTOR NO LONGER EXISTING?! But alas, whatever you did to this timeline, this...so-called Spiral Yssgaroth, like you /I/ lack the tether of linear time. And so. Somewhere, I am always reaching my full power"

"I bring the gift of Sutekh" said a Susan on every destination of the TARDIS. Each Susan puffed out grains of sand, the manifestation of Sutekh's death power. The puff of sand billowed up into a wind, a storm, a hurricane that swept cities to dust and lives to even less"

One such gust of death swept over me, and every protection and modification I'd seen fit to equip this avatar with.
And it died.

But that wasn't the end of it. When planets were scoured of life, stars were next. They dimmed. Everything across the universe died, like a Tohno Shiki fanfiction writer jerking himself raw to describe what would happen if he cut the universe's point of death. If Gallifrey was still around in my chain, they would have died too. The peaceful planet of Skaro in my chain would have died, even if they housed the Daleks at the height of their power

Somewhere, Wimey was hammering on the controls of the Mobius chair as the stars went out.

People on some planets didn't even notice they were already dead until their force of will gave out-for such was Sutekh's power that /he could even make death die/

Somewhere, Elodie was trying to get her to stop. To tell her this wasn't my first rodeo, and they needed a plan. Somewhere, Grail burst in furious neither of them was doing anything about my demise. Wimey found a panel on the chair that simply read "In case of avatar death, open this"

Memory died. Fucking F A C T S started to die.

Somewhere, Sutekh looked upon what he had wrought, and saw that it was good.

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>>93217468
>spoiler 1
The Dreamlord is the Valeyard and that's my headcanon and it's final.
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>>93217437
Fuck me too. Bullying is a bitch.
I had good parents, so they took me away from that, even if it made me weaker. Otherwise they would have found my corpse in a few years.
I sometime regret not having done more, as in, more damage to the school, the kids, and the profs.
Now that I'm an adult, I can't do that sort of shits.
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>>93217473
"Open it. NOW. He must have prepared for this! He ALWAYS prepares!!" shouted Grail. "A superweapon! Some new creation, or a weaponised idea-"

"It's uh. It's rope. TARDIS rope" said Wimey. Elodie looked away politely as Grail stared aghast at it, fretting. "Well...well if he thinks rope would help...I've got my Lasso of Anti-Life right here..." she snarled.

...

And as all this was happening, suddenly Sutekh burst into white flames. "What?! My own power, turned against me! I...how....argghgh" he gurgled as he, not being immune to his own powers, died.

. . .

And causality abruptly reversed, my avatar's familial bond with that which was this timeline's lifeblood itself anchoring it back into existence. "Well, well, well" I said finally. "I have to hand it to you, it's been a LONG time since I've released the sevenfold blessing God once gave Cain, and the flow of calamity to weaken anything in it's path. To think you could actually make me-"

"DIE AND STAY DEAD!!" howled Sutekh. It took way longer than you'd think for his death angels to spray dead someone at close range. But I just keeled over with a shrug. And Sutekh once again into flames, rolled around howling, and died.

But death's vastness held no peace for me.
"Die!"
"See you in a bit" I said, blowing away on no breeze.
"You shall not-ANGEL, HELP KILL THE FLAMES QUICKER-"
"Hello again"
"DIE!"
"Allons-y" I said, crumbling
"Do NOT use that phrase, it is an affront to Sutekh HOT HOT TOO HOT ARGH"
"Oh, would you prefer GERONIMO instead?"
"The curse! I just have to kill the CURSE on you then-" Sutekh flinched as I waved my sonic module at him. That hesitation, and similar minor distractions, kept him bursting into flames.

"P-parlay! Parlay, I say!!" he panted after about 1575 iterations of silliness. "I...I will graciously forestall your execution!"

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"There is, I confess...one COSMIC MYSTERY I will...MAGNANIMOUSLY DEIGN to permit you to assist me to investigate for, erm, a...more dignified death?" choked out Sutekh. Clearly stressed at the very concept of resorting to offer mercy again.

"One moment" I brandished the Life Equation. All of a sudden, life across the universe resurrected.

Sutekh's jaw dropped. "WHAT JUST HAPPENED"

"Life found a way. Oh relax, you probably killed whatever you were investigating in your death wave"

"Well...bully. I WILL kill everything afterwards but for now, you will help me investigate the mystery of Ruby Sunday's birth which even I, mighty Sutekh the god of gods, cannot comprehend" demanded Sutekh. I stared at him. I made a big show of cleaning out my eras. He growled like an actual dog. I threw up my hands in exasperation.

"Mate. Mate, she's a random abandoned British baby from a mom with an abusive dad. There are kids like her literally all over Britain" I said flatly.

"W-wha...no! NO! DO NOT LIE TO MIGHTY SUTEKH!"

"Bitch, I will TAKE you there"

And warping us both through time I showed Sutekh the Destroyer, the Typhonian Beast, the Death of Ages himself Ruby's perfectly ordinary mom being pumped by her perfectly ordinary dad before she left home and very sadly dumped baby Ruby on a black woman's doorstep before fucking off to wherever disenfranchised white women go.

"I have to ask, are...are YOU shitting me right now?" I demanded. "You accidentally bent your reality warping powers to give a random British girl Christmas song manifestation powers and RECREATING THE FUCKING EARTH because...you couldn't figure out she was a NORMAL ORPHAN?!"

"OH MY ME!" screamed Sutekh, slamming his snout on the TARDIS in embarrassment. "MY COSMIC GLAUCOMA MUST BE PLAYING UP, TO THINK MIGHTY SUTEKH COULD HAVE MADE SUCH A TRIVIAL SPOT CHECK FAILURE IS...IS..."

"Sutekh, this is fucking embarrassing for both of us"

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>>93217470
There's a mini-debate of "WoU would win against DoH".
Except Dio conquered multiple worlds, implying he did beat WoU (and Go Beyond).

Obviously the actual answer is "It's because WoU and Go Beyond weren't a thing".
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>>93217488
>before fucking off to wherever disenfranchised white women go.
Portugal, I think.
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>>93217488
Speaking of spot check failures, suddenly the Mobius Chair warped behind Sutekh and Elodie, Grail and Wimey just fucking lassoed him like a steer

"Ack! Rope...my one weakness..." he choked out, strangled by the TARDIS rope and also hooked at the elbow by the Lasso of Anti-Life. And while his death angel was slowly, ponderously walking up to spray sand Grail just portal-axed her from behind.

"Holy fucking shit you have slow reflexes for a cosmic death god" I said flatly. "I have known japanese teenagers with better reflexes"

"What am I saying? Why am I only relying on death angels?!" Sutekh turned his full power on the rope. It died. "Now I'll just-"

Reality was suddenly overtaken by walls of flesh. "Hi dad. Felt you regenerate inside me just now" said the Lilim Yssgaroth cheerfully, as Sutekh was bowled over by Imperial monstegirl flesh from E-space, from the timeless weft where a thread could have been anchored, and from those regions of the universe that just refused to die. Sutekh again displayed the reflexes and might of a drunk opossum.

"Fashionably late, kid"

"Wanna know what his death tastes like? The Time Vortex itself"

I stared aghast at one of my daughter's manifestations while Sutekh had to kill the other individually into subatomic dust. "You serious?"

"Deadly. Serious"

"Well...okay? Uh, Sutekh? Playtime's over" I said firmly, as Grail started cheerleading and Wimey hooked Sutekh with ANOTHER TARDIS rope that Elodie had duplicated. "This ends now"

"This...this isn't right!" snarled Sutekh, once again thrashing in the grip of rope but also kicked by vampires. "This will not be...I am Sutekh. And I was forged into a god by time. I bring death beyond mortal imagination. My plans will not be undone by such amateur-hour codswallop as being dragged backwards through my own timeline. I. Am. Sutekh. My will be done!"

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>>93217460
>You proved me wrong,
Aight, also thanks for the civil debate, it's great to have one of these with no hard feelings or anything.

> I still think bringing WoU and Go Beyond is dumb, but you proved me wrong, and I kneel.
No need to kneel, weird ass shit like that are part of the media so it isn't anything bad to get out of sorts about that kind of thing. Also, yeah agreed that Wonder of U and Go Beyond being brought up was silly, but it was just a thought that led to this debate and I enjoyed it so I'm happy it got brought up.
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"Wimey? Pass" I said, catching the TARDIS rope. I opened a portal into the Time Vortex, and clotheslined Sutekh straight into it.

"So, you MIGHT be wondering" I said as instead of doing anything godlike Sutekh promptly started flailing like a drowning puppy, "what's bright and grants a human power over the Time Vortex itself when looked at properly?"

"AAAIEEEEEEEEEE" he screamed as I swung him like a yo-yo into the walls of the Time Vortex which undid all his actions in the universe

"LOUDER" I shouted, kicking his snout into the walls of time itself.

"...THE EYE OF HARMONY?!" croaked Sutekh, staring at the abortion of Time Lord civilisation.

"That's right! Full marks! And, AND being already an Archmage of Time, I was able to gaze into the Time Vortex WITH. COMPLETE. IMPUNITY. IT. IS. OVER, SUTEKH! FOR IN MY RIGHT HAND, I HOLD ALL THE POWER OF THE TIME VORTEX...AND IN MY LEFT? STURDY ROPE!"

"Then...I'll...SURPASS ROPE...IF IT TAKES ME A BILLION TRILLION YEARS!!!!" howled Sutekh.

I pondered that statement for a second. Then I punched a time-scar into Sutekh's history into the Vortex, like the one the Great Intelligence would have used to undo the Doctor's victories.

"Yssgaroth? A moment"

"Yes, papa?" said a drone vampire, crawling out from behind my back.

"I'm going to manipulate the Vortex's flow so you'll ALWAYS evolve into a transcendental being faster than this former Osiran here. In return, you will find this creature whenever and wherever it manifests, and punt it back into the Time Vortex"

"K. Sounds fun" said the drone vampire, blowing a raspberry at the horrified Sutekh.

"Wait! Take this" I said, pulling all the TARDIS rope from time and space. "If I've learned anything today, it's that the god of gods is weak to being leashed like a dog"

"Huh. Kinky"

And thus, the Time Vortex was suddenly filled with screaming, disintegrating Sutekhs tied up with rope and dropkicked by vampires. Forever.

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>>93217492
Well with WoU he could just ignore it because unless he has something DIO wants then DIO has no reason to pursue him. That's kinda WoU's biggest weakness. Go Beyond likely doesn't exist in any other universe because Gappy arguably only exists because of Johnny and his spin, and Johnny can only use spin because of the holy corpse which doesn't exist in other universes.
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>>93217508
Thank you Dugded, for delaying this ... whatever it this is for a few hours.
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>>93217518
What the fuck are you talking about? The spin isn't dependent on the holy corpse, and even if it were, it isn't confined to the same universe as the corpse either. That's the whole fucking point of using it to fight D4C
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>>93217499
I wouldn't call it civil, I was very rude and thought you were obtuse, on purpose, hence me being rude. I apologize.

>>93217518
Probably.
There's also the fact that TWoH's powers are connected to his hands. Who would win, the hands, the bubble? It's the best shield vs the best spear scenario. And Calamity. Can you even touch Calamity? Technially you could say that it's touching reality itself by being there... so that's rabbit hole and a half.
Hm, Tusk is "dependent" of the Holy Corpse, as, HC unlocked it, not the Spin. Well Jesus talked about the Spin, but he's not the Spin.
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>>93217531
I misspoke. I meant the infinite spin, specifically the one he uses which is special and works differently from normal infinite spin because it's from his stand he got from the corpse. I know Gyro can use infinite spin, but Johnny wouldn't have ever learned it because they only needed it to beat Love Train, which doesn't exist in any other universe.
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>>93217525
Dread it. Run from it. NuWho still arrives.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x90quj6

I cannot stress enough how everything about Ruby comes across like RTD wanting to write a platonic Rose updated for current year stuff

>>93217495
Actually she was still living near enough in the UK to visit Ruby's extended family. That's the most unrealistic part of this whole season really, a British single mother kicked out of her home apparently making a decent life for herself in the British economy

>>93217475
Don't tempt those monkey paws, RTD might well go "The Valeyard is the Dream Lord is Sutekh's kid, and thus the Doctor is half-Sutekh on his father/mother/other's side"
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>>93217465
>Doctor Who redux
Wait, is there a new Dr. Who jump, or are you using the shitty old one?
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>>93217552
>I wouldn't call it civil, I was very rude and thought you were obtuse, on purpose, hence me being rude. I apologize.
That is somewhat overly harsh on yourself, but I understand.

>There's also the fact that TWoH's powers are connected to his hands. Who would win, the hands, the bubble? It's the best shield vs the best spear scenario. And Calamity. Can you even touch Calamity? Technially you could say that it's touching reality itself by being there... so that's rabbit hole and a half.
>Hm, Tusk is "dependent" of the Holy Corpse, as, HC unlocked it, not the Spin. Well Jesus talked about the Spin, but he's not the Spin.
Agreed on that point, it's a huge downwards spiral yeah.
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>>93217568
>spoiler 2
I'm just making a JK Rowling JK.
There is a reason why the founder of Slytherin shares a name with António de Oliveira Salazar
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>>93217576
Oh I'm just using the shitty old one and making the most of it, by using the caveat you can start with ANY Doctor.
ANY
DOCTOR
To start with the Timeless Child, who predates Gallifreyan society as commonly understood/propagandised throughout the greater Spiral Politic and is literally just a random little black girl from another universe that the Shobogan (that's the CANON original name for Gallifrey's intelligent species, by the way) known as Techeun (who is also the Other, the third and most mysterious founder of Time Lod society. And an abusive dominant white woman that invented regenerations by torturing the Timeless Child's infinite stock until she ran out. Warping her into the first known iteration of the Doctor, who was gaslit and girlbossed into believing she was a Time Lord. Just like all Time Lords apparently stole all their technology from other species then rewrite history to an unspecified degree)

(And then RTD retconned that again into the whole backstory being the Toymaker's fuckery with the Doctor's timeline, so now it's unclear if the Doctor started out as a Time Lord or Timeless Child at all. I will once again remind everyone that apart from giving Ruby random fucking christmas music/snowfall, Sutekh is apparently too fucking lazy to use his theoretically stronger than every other Pantheon of Discord member's reality warping powers)

Thus, the Doctor wasn't around to interfere with my goal of universal order because /there was no Doctor/ just this random girl I saved from Techeun who joined ME on my Mobius Chair adventures across the cosmos.
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My first jump shall be SoL Vtubers. What second jump could I go to that would allow me to give my newly collected Companions lore accurate powers?
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>>93217578
Being harsh on yourself is probably one of best-and depending of the severity, severe if you allow me the redundancy- thing you can do for yourself, it forces you to calm down and apologize for shitty behavior before it's too late, and think about it, and better yourself, even if you fail. Better learn at snail pace than nothing pace.

...Wow. Didn't though I would go into philosophy.
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>>93215989
>Dagded
>>93216041
>said Dagded
Didn't knew Dagda was in a Super Sentai.
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>>93217627
That would depend entirely on the Vtubers you get
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>>93217627
She look like a clown.
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>>93217627
What Psycho said, unless you go to something ridiculously broad like Generic Superhero Academy.
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>>93217492
Yes, but WoU never destroyed multiple universes wich was the point I was arguing against, anyway the obvious answer is that they never fought.
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>>93217651
The thing is, by it's very nature, you can't just ignore WoU, and WoU can't just ignore you.

....Right?
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For how I see it TWOH to defeat WoU would need to let himself be pursued, but can't truely defeat the calamity even if it defeat WoU, without the further ascension he was trying to reach, it couldn't vanish something as inexistant as go beyond, but could defeat him simply by timestopping.
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>>93217683
No, WoU will activate only if you choose to pursue him, probably Dio simply never did it, this would run countrary to gravity but I suppose that it simply was Dio's fate to lose against Jojo.
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>>93217641
Hakos Baelz(Concept of Chaos)
Ironmouse(Literally Satan)
Selen Tatsuki/Dokibird(Dragon?/Bird?)
Kureiji Ollie(Undead)
Takanashi Kiara(Isekai Phoenix)
Henya(Genius)

And I honestly can't decide on the final two to fill my roster.
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Would spiderman pursuing a WOU jumper be in a perpetual state of "Mr stark I don't feel too good"?
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>>93217727
>perpetual state of "Mr stark I don't feel too good"?
So nothing would change?
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>>93217727
I think that since his danger sense is an attunement to the web of destiny it would preeventively tell him how WoU is twisting it, so yes it would work to warn him of the dangers, even if it wouldn't allow him to hit WoU.
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>>93217727
>Being targeted by Calamity actually improves his Parker Luck
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>>93217726
Could literally not be any more basic.
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>>93217726
Why not adopt a couple of dogs?
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>>93217828
I asked for jump suggestions, not your opinions on Vtubers
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Thicc thigh-ed waifus to companion? I already have Chun Li and the cast of Fat Elf in mind.
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>>93217232
WoU can exist and operate independently of Tooru.
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So besides
>TInyhammer
>Kamen rider
>Gundam (We do have a build fighters jump right?)
What other jumps have an aspect or entire focus on model kits?

Totally not asking because I became addicted to making models and ordered a shit ton
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>>93217848
Just get shapeshifters.
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>>93217879
My favorite part of WoU is how it appears everywhere for no reason.
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>>93217915
Isn't it a part of it's powers?
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>>93217915
I have a thing for you, I think this is what the other anon was talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlV5r_Vo23Y&ab_channel=OtherMeanings
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>>93217915
I think that it has something to do with the fact it is a law of reality. Like it already is technically everywhere so why wouldn't it be there?
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>>93217848
>legs are the best part, chest is a big weird by anime perfect standards.
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>>93217622
> is apparently too fucking lazy to use his theoretically stronger than every other Pantheon of Discord member's reality warping powers
Given he quite literally kills the universe through every time period as his opening move, does he even really NEED to? Even in his original appearances, Sutekh put in only the bare minimum effort to achieve all his goals.

It's still ridiculous that RTD is scaling him above the fucking Toymaker of all things, but I can absolutely buy Sutekh being a lazy fuck.
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>>93217922
He already know it, iirc, I even talked to him about.
Iirc, he said that yeah, it fit, but it's still a theory.
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>>93217926
Why the fuck did I put a >?
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>>93217931
Ah okay. Just was trying to be helpful there.
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>>93217919
Yes. It's a fact of reality, so it's technically omnipresent. It's only really with Tooru because if you subscribe to the theory that WoU is ultimately just the curse then it's all part of an insanely convoluted chain of events for the curse to murder the the family with ease. It probably wouldn't even need Tooru for that goal but then they wouldn't pursue it.
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>>93217942
>Just was trying to be helpful there.
Oh I didn't meant to be condescending I was also trying to be helpful.
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>>93217879
reread chapter 108, WoU is Tooru's ability to control calamity, after his death calamity act by itself, the head doctor isn't WoU, it's the laws of calamity wich took a form because of WoU.
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>>93217922
I don't think I've ever seen this whole video, actually. Thanks
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>>93217964
Nta but, like, same difference. It was trying to get a new host so it could keep Calamity-ing all over the place.
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>>93217993
My point is that by doing so he would have defeated WoU, I sid he wouldn't have stopped the law of calamity.
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>>93217982
no problem glad if it helps.
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Is it morally wrong to turn overworked black company businessmen into legal loli hikkiNEETS that live in the internet cafe I own?
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Do female jumper do anything interesting in those settings where over 90% of the population are women?
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>>93218011
I would assume once it regains a new host it just becomes WoU again.
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>>93218058
Possible but we really don't know, it might use a different gimmick if it reformed as a new stand to bring calamity.
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Is it morally wrong to adjust human gender ratio so women outnumber men five to one?
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>>93217964
>>93217993
>>93218011
>>93218058
>>93218074
Does WoU even NEED a host?
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>>93218084
Explicitly no; WoU lives on even after Tooru is killed.
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>>93218084
>>93218096
It lives on with a big asterisk, because it had no face and the first thing it did was try to jump into Norisuke, presumably to try and become his stand or possess him. It would still exist, but it seems like it really doesn't like not being linked to someone.
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>>93217930
I mean.
I mean, no if we assume he has had a subjective lifetime of being an all-powerful actual no-bullshit god but fucking CHRIST if he had just bothered to manifest one. Single. Piece of Osiran technology with his (presumed) reality warping powers it would have been over. Literally throughout the whole episode the given reason why he doesn't end the Doctor and Ruby is because the one thing his powers couldn't tell him was who the fuck Ruby's mom was and his BELIEF made supernatural phenomena manifest around her apparently, but jesus christ look at Osiran technology. He could've time-googled that shit in a retroactive second or MADE IT WHATEVER HE DECIDED IT WAS.

Osirans are to Time Lords what Time Lords are to...generously, Daleks and less generously Sontarans. The reason the ones that didn't die fighting Sutekh aren't around is because they didn't need to anchor the thread or sacrifice reality to ascend to a higher plane of existence, they fucking BUILT their own portal to a "higher universe" and just left. All this shit and they still choose to style their technology as ancient egyptian magic for aesthetic reasons, like creating cosmic winds that can shred lesser spacecraft or time travelling sarcophagi.

Meanwhile Godmode Sutekh just sits there roaring like angry puppy when Ruby smashes the data slate and waits long enough for her and the Doc to lasso him instead of doing what Osiran Sutekh could've done and just telepathically made them bend the knee.
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>>93218084
Again the laws of calamity are something that exist in the universe and it gave to Tooru the stand WoU to manifest in a form that could directly follow its plan, WoU is the ability to bring calamity over your pursuer, a manifestation of the law of calamity, the underlying logic of the world.
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Okay but what if I kill the very concept of calamity?

No, I'm not joking or memeing. What would happen to the Jojoverse if I do this?
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>>93218132
Nothing would ever happen again.
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>>93218136
So "calamity" is "causality" in the Jojoverse?
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>>93218136
>>93218132
*Nothing BAD, I meant to type
although you could make an argument for causality breaking down
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>>93218141
Yes, that's pretty much how it's described. Everything in the universe operates off logic and the highest form of logic is the flow of calamity.
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>>93218132
Nobody really knows, WoU says multiple times that the flow of calamity is the flow of logic, hinting strongly at >>93218141
this, but things like the human heart or the spin are either hinted or stated to be beyond that logic, so it's arguable that it's destruction would either break down the world or stop every calamity in the world forever, with calamity intended as unforeseen accidents, like a tornado.
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>>93218167
>the spin
Really just Josuke's spin, considering what happened to Johnny.
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>>93218143
>>93218149
>>93218167
So killing calamity will either make the universe an eternal paradise where nothing bad ever happens, or it'll literally stop /everything/ from happening. And we can't quite tell which is true, since both are hinted at being true.
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>>93218084
No, but it does prefer having one. Presumably because a host acts as a fallback plan.
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>>93218182
Just thematically speaking I'd say it would probably break causality and screw everyone because JoJo is a series that considers even the shitty parts of the human experience like meaningless suffering to be ultimately important and valuable.
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Would FF14's Ultima Weapon be able to defeat Sin from FFX?
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>>93218111
>The reason the ones that didn't die fighting Sutekh aren't around is because they didn't need to anchor the thread or sacrifice reality to ascend to a higher plane of existence, they fucking BUILT their own portal to a "higher universe" and just left.
It should also be noted that their "doorway" was so ridiculously powerful that if forcefully destroyed, it would have annihilated entire multiverses as a direct consequence.
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>>93218105
Rinosuke also talk about something calling... the flow I think? It's something he attribute the success of his fruit enterprise to.
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>>93218209
I mean, it didn't even have a head anymore so that probably sucked. It's not like he was big chilling.

Unrelated, but it's so weird how slow Araki makes vampires and Pillarmen despite some of their crazy feats. Like how are you gonna tell me a dude who can do this can't fly as fast as a WW2 plane after becoming the ultimate lifeform?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qs0NYpbhCGY
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>>93218230
If Sin just sits there being a goober, then it could probably do some damage. I don't think it could actually KILL it though.
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>>93218179
From my understanding the spin is beyond the logic of the world, the spinning medium isn't, Go beyond is so thin that the medium doesn't effectively exist, so all it remains is the spin.
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>>93218253
*insert joke about very thin condoms*
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>>93218239
He was talking about the flow of customers and their natural course which leads them to the fruit parlor, which was an allusion and teasing to how everything is controlled by the flow of causality/calamity.
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>>93218265
Oh, I thought it was a possible opposite force, or Feng Shui.
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>>93218167 (me)
I would add that this dubious bond make it possible that GER could return to zero the calamities and that Diavolo could avoid them, but by doing so they would simply be avoiding their own actions, so they would survive but effectively do nothing to WoU.
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>>93218253
Well no, what's happening is that the string is spinning infinitely close to zero, basically saying it's become so thin it practically doesn't exist and therefore doesn't abide by the laws of reality. The spin just facilitates reaching that "infinitely close to zero" state.
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>>93218277
I do think that could be a thing, especially because Araki touches on Feng Shui in Part 6 and it seems to work very similarly to calamity, but you could also argue the perceived positive flow is actually just the lack of the flow of calamity or a lower amount of it. I think there's a lot of evidence of a general benevolent force in JoJo, though, like the mentions of True Fate.
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>>93218283
In the description at the end of chapter 108 they state the lines infinitely thin close to zero exist in this world as only spin, so they still exist, and follow by saying that that spin seem capable to overcome all logic that exist in this world.
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>>93218076
Yes. You need to make a men woman ratio be 1:39 at least
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>>93218305
Yeah, Feng Shui is seemingly neutral and be used and corrupted, but the way Norisuke I can't believe I said Rinosuke describe it, it seems that this "flow" is like a benevolent force of harmony that you have to treat with respect and it will give it back to you, but if you don't, it'll do nothing.
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>>93218330
>pic
I want to kill myself!
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>>93218305
Also, y'know, Jesus.

The first JoJo
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>>93218309
Yeah, but that particular spin is also stated to not exist under heaven and Earth like six times so I think it's pretty clear it actually doesn't exist as far as the universe is concerned.
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I have a jumper who always tries to leave each jump a happier place than they found it. However, sometimes the bleakness is woven so deeply into a setting that unless you can rebuild it from the ground up, trying to change things for the better is nigh impossible, and might even make things worse. What are some of the hardest settings to un-fuck?
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>>93218339
Me too!
:D
>>93218346
What's the secret to being as cool as you are?
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>>93218345
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>>93218346
This is pretty contradictory with how they state it exist in the world as spin, so I hypotesize that the spin exist in the world but outside the flow of logic and reason, heaven and earth, but now I'm in headcanon territory so I will stop.
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>>93218355
>What's the secret to being as cool as you are?
Watch a binaural beats video that turns you into Dante from DMC for multiple hours a day every day until you're cool.
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What are some good counters to hostile nanomachines inside your body so you don't melt/get disassembled. Phasing or turning into an energy being are the easy ones.
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>>93217352
will you make a sonic and the secret rings jump?
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>>93218405
Having a body temperature soo high it melts them.
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>>93218405
Evolution powers so strong your cells become even stronger little nano machines and wipe out the enemy nano machines
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>>93218433
>Your white blood cells start developing guns.
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>>93218425
I can't, I haven't played the game.

In all seriousness, that's never been something I was interested in cuz it doesn't seem like it has the BANGER story and music Black Knight did.

(Just for the record, powers that be, the image is from Better Half, which we have a jump for. A jump I made.)
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How do I ensure the defeat of the commies in Atomic Heart?
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>>93218461
Are there other Sonic jumps you might make?
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>>93218461
>In all seriousness, that's never been something I was interested in cuz it doesn't seem like it has the BANGER story and music Black Knight did.
Having watched a playthrough of both, I think they're comparable.
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>>93218507
I don't know. Is anyone doing Adventure?
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>>93218522
>Adventure
>Not doing The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
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>>93218405
Your own, stronger nanomachines
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>>93218445
That sounds like it's going to escalate out of control and culminate in your white blood cells constructing giant robots inside of you.
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>>93218522
Not to my knowledge.
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>>93218565
Look, if a jumper has blood vessels that are larger on the inside by several orders of magnitude, that's his business
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>>93218576
I don't wanna promise anything, but I could maybe do it.
>>93218546
What reason is there to make a jump besides pingas?
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>>93218591
Sonic Sez
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>>93218405
Your own nanomachines.
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Does Porygon count as a Digimon?
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>>93218591
Weren't you going to do that Lego game first?
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>>93216132
>completely misrepresenting what actually happens in DBZ
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>>93218642
yes
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>>93217097
Only whiny little faggots don't like Crow and Syuen.
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>>93218642
No, because in Digimon there are other AI lifeforms besides the Digimon themselves.
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>>93217097
Nikke, Last Origin...
You guys are weird for not having made it yet.
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>>93218751
Maybe you could give one a shot?
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>>93218565
>>93218586
And here I thought having my white blood cells be tiny sharks is odd.
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>>93218751
My Nikker the prologue isn't even over yet. I don't want to be stuck updating it constantly.
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>>93218762
I don't know anything about Nikke or Last Origin.
Well I know a few things about Last Origin, but not enough to make a jump.

>>93218778
>the prologue isn't even over yet
what the shit
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>>93218471
Resolve the social and economic issues plaguing the US because they are having a lot of trouble because commie robots are better workers than meatbags. Other then that sabotage Kollektiv 2.0, kill the eggheads that keep shitting out Soviet SCIENCE during the Kollektiv 2.0 launch crisis and make sure they can't hide in Limbo to revive later. The USSR relies on automation so if Kollektiv goes down you basically kneecap them.
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>>93218751
Last Origin is basically porn. It doesn't try to be subtle about (You) being the last human and having a lot of the bioroids salivate all over your dick
Nikke's story is a mess
There are other gachas that are nonsense, like Orisries where other players can fuck your girls in front of you if you lose the pvp match.
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>>93218831
>where other players can fuck your girls in front of you if you lose the pvp match
????
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>>93218831
>Last Origin is basically porn. It doesn't try to be subtle about (You) being the last human and having a lot of the bioroids salivate all over your dick
Seems like it would be something you like.
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>>93218831
>Last Origin is basically porn. It doesn't try to be subtle about (You) being the last human and having a lot of the bioroids salivate all over your dick
Good. DO IT. You did Maken Ki, you should do that too.
Or someone else, anyone really. Stop being wimps.

>Nikke's story is a mess
Reassuring.

>There are other gachas that are nonsense, like Orisries where other players can fuck your girls in front of you if you lose the pvp match.
Let me guess.
Korean gacha that decided to be even more Korean?
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>>93218863
>You did Maken Ki
No he didn't.
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>>93218793
Yeah around the Crown event the devs said the Prologue is coming to an end. Literally the last two years was all prologue.
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>>93218873
Ah fuck, I can't believe I've done this.
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>>93218831
>like Orisries where other players can fuck your girls in front of you if you lose the pvp match.
This makes everyone who plays it a cuck automatically
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>>93218831
>Nikke's story is a mess
Shut the fuck up secondary or else I'll tell your wife you are cheating on her.
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>>93218894
>wife
Which one?
>>93218885
>>93218849
Welcome to gacha games?
>>93218863
>You did Maken Ki
Unless my memory is playing me up again, I didn't do that one.
>>93218854
When I get the blues my horni energy drops and so does my productivity.
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>>93218943
Yeah I dunno why, I always link Maken-Ki's jump to you.

>When I get the blues my horni energy drops and so does my productivity.
Eat black chocolate. It'll help.
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>>93218943
Kuesu.
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Where are my skeleton jumpers?
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>>93218971
You will shut your whore mouth.
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>>93219020
>Ric moments before he gets corrected.
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>>93219007
In the bone zone.
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>>93218751
Soft core porn gacha don't need jumps.
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>>93219026
Can we see how is Ric corrected? I don't remember it.
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>>93219074
Yes yes, you are a good smart boy Timmy, now jump off a cliff.
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>>93219058
The idea of a "bone zone" is a cope by skeletons stemming from their lack of penises.
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>>93219077
Kuesu was killing everyone Ric interacted with and beating his ass IIRC. Truly only the harshest punishments for the greatest of sinners.
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>>93219090
*off a cliffic
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>>93216129
Gil in any class could do that if he just USED HIS BRAIN.
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>>93219103
A rattling amount of seething
>>93219077
She will throw away my ygo cards
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>>93218943
I hope you feel better soon friend.
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>>93218751
>You guys are weird for not having made it yet.
The few remaining jumpmakers aren't interested in making jumps for popular media that it would make sense to make jumps for.
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>>93215989
Who is Sutekh?
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>>93219156
https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Sutekh
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>>93216281
>The answer of what it took in canon is so comically inadequate for what the fucker was hyped up as that it's why I'm here rambling with you guys instead of actually writing the build
Doctor Who Jump soon?
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>>93219152
Become the change you want to see.
Just do a low effort one like the Blue Archive jump if you are feeling lazy.
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>>93219090
Anon they literally have fuck all of value and there is no reason for anyone to make a jump for them. There are dozens of better liked, more unique gacha that don't have jumps. Just because you jerk off to them all the time doesn't mean anyone is obligated to make a jump for it.
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Look at this CEO.
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>>93216306
I assume lore accurate just means he has every item and spell in the game and 99 in every stat.
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>>93219210
Name them.
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>>93219221
My wife.
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>>93219221
>*sends her deep into an active war zone*
Good girls must be strong as well
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>>93217009
>it's JoJo Smash Bros so ultimate Kars isn't that big a deal.
Isn't Ultimate Kars the strongest character in the game?
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I need a synonym for "Perk" that starts with the letter "D". I don't feel like explaining why. Any ideas?
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>>93219234
What, the gacha? Yeah sure I'm sure people would rather see the rest of the jewhoyo roster, PGR, WuWa, PtN, R:1999, Limbus and all those done before "just look at porn bro" Nikke, Last Origin, Brown Dust etc
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>>93219278
Deft?
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>>93219283
Except for Limbus I never heard of them.

>"just look at porn bro"
Don't try to play the gatekeeper, we got Maken-Ki and Redo of Healer. You will only look stupid.
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>>93217096
>Still find it funny that Wonder of U organized the whole Eyes of Heaven plotline to prevent itself from being deleted
What?
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>>93219278
Idk? Maybe dominion or domain, depending on how broad the perks are?
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Mother : Genius
Father : Hunter (Reckoning)
Elder Twin Daughter : Changeling (Lost)
Younger Twin Daughter : Changeling (Dreaming)
Son : Solar Exalt
Youngest Daughter : Princess
Dad's Brother : Hunter (Vigil)
Mom's Sister : Mage
Dad's Father : Hunter (Reckoning, Demon-possessed)

And the son is dating a succubus and a vampire. Is this family fucked up enough or should I add more stuff?
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>>93219278
Demesne (of study)?
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>>93219307
You’ve never heard of wuthering waves, Honkai star rail, ZZZ, or Punishing Gray Raven?
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>>93219269
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>93219343
I wouldn't call Honkai deserving,

>wuthering waves
I've heard about it though.
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>>93219323
Mom’s brother is a Dragonblooded.
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>>93219307
>Don't try to play the gatekeeper
NTA but it's weird to pivot to this when you opened by making statements about what jumps should be worked on (surprise it is stuff you like but are too lazy to make yourself).
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It's not about what deserves a jump, it's about whoever puts enough effort to make a jump and if it's liked enough by the thread if the jumpmaker cares about it getting on the drive. That's all that matters.
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>>93219374
Yeah and the only people that play nikke are ESL SEAfags that jerk off 24/7, so they won't be making a jump for it.
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>>93219374
Yeah, I guess it's true. It's just frustrating to see something interesting and fun, but no one will do it when it's an obvious gold mine people would like.
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>>93219390
You could make a jump at any time.
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>>93219385
Nigga what?
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>>93219390
I will tell you what I tell everyone else, if you want it make it. Hell you don't even have to share it, just make a bare-bones skeleton for yourself to jump.
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>>93219390
If it was so interesting and fun you wouldn't be literally the only person pushing for it.
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>>93219398
>>93219402
My skin is not thick enough to deal with shiposters who find an IP "problematic".

I admire PsychoAnon for declaring he'd make a Redo of Healer, soldering the ocean of shitpost thrown at him, and ending up finishing it.

>>93219399
Don't bite. Sex bad or something.
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>>93219278
Dispensation.

>>93219297
>>93219316
>>93219337
Have we gone this entire decade with /jc/ not knowing what the word "perk" means?
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>>93219438
I went for a synonym of ability/skill
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>>93219435
Literally just ignore them, unless they have some kind of useful criticism and aren't just bitching and moaning about whatever inane bullshit they like to cry about on a given day like a wrankly old housewife.
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>>93219390
Mate if you want a jump then whatever but don't try this faux concern "oh you're all missing out though it would be so much fun for all of you" crap.
Beg for a jump like every other one of us lazy cunts, not this disingenuous garbage. Especially when you're the only person in like a year+ to ever bring it up.
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>>93219438
I know what perk means, but I went with a synonym of power because it was the only thing I could think of a d word for off the top of my head.
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>>93219449
Deft is an adjective. You are deft, you don't learn "defts".
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>>93219435
Sorry to break it to you anon, but bitching about what jumps should be made while doing fuck all makes YOU one of those shitposters.
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>>93218348
>Warhammer (blame the Chaos Gods)
>World/Chronicles of Darkness (blame the Wyrm/Caine/God/the Yama Kings/the Neverborn/the Nephandi/etc. and blame the Exarchs/the Strix/the Dark Mother/the All-Consuming Darkness/the God-Machine/etc. respectively)
>Nechronica (everyone's already dead)
>DC (something something Crisis Energy)
>Marvel (something something 616 is cursed)
>Forgotten Realms (something something The Wall)
>Dark Souls (blame Gwyn, even letting the natural cycle of Fire and Dark start running again won't fix anything because now the Dark is gonna go Abyss from all that negative human emotion)
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>>93219438
We know what it means in the given context, there just aren’t any good synonyms that start with D.
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>>93219369
I"m going to say granparent because she already has a sibling and I want mom and dad to be relatively balanced on that front, but otherwise that works.

...Man, they're probably pretty pissed that they managed to have two kids that weren't also dragoblood, and then pissed again when they find out one of their grandkids exalted as a Solar.
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>>93217465
>"How curious. You are NOT the Doctor"
Why is this suppose to be scary?
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Rolled 31 (1d100)

>>93219278
That choice of letter is kind of difficult to work with since English usually associates it with the prefixes de/dis - a negative connotation/incentive. That said, it's not impossible...
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/douceur.html
>captcha: RNGPR0
Fine, let's roll for getting the preferred waifu in a gacha jump. Higher is better.
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>>93219490
If anything they would be glad. Better to have a Solar in the shit show that is world of darkness where the dragon blooded were getting bullied by werewolves.
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>>93219452
I said it, my skin is thin, especially nowaday but that's a me-problem and in front of people who like to shitpost, or worst, gaslight like >>93219453 and >>93219467 it's just toxic.
I almost sometime end up believing them, if it wasn't for the fact that I remember people actually talking about LO and going "yeah a jump would be nice".
At the end of the day, you are right, fuck those people, but they end up being a cancer for morality and goodwill because they like playing the superior people.

>>93219490
>pic
This will forever be the best and most used Reimu pic of all time and I love it.
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>>93219490
Imagine how they’ll feel once they find out about the full list of what the family’s like.
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>>93218471
Call in Joe McCarthy. He’ll get ‘em sorted out.
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>>93217468
>>93217473
>Wanking an ugly CGI monster THIS hard
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>>93219527
Gaslight? Nah he's being a fucking autistic bitch about it. You want a jump either ask or make it, not this woe is me oh my god it's such a missed opportunity crap. It's fucking annoying for the exact same reasons humble bragging is.
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>>93219527
>gaslight
No anon, it's the truth. Disparaging jumpmakers because they aren't working on your pet likes isn't any different than targeting them because they are making something "too lewd". You are part of the problem.
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>>93219516
Mhmm, that's fair. Maybe I'm thinking of them the same way as Creation!Dragonbloods, who would likely have a very different reaction.

>>93219527
Done with your shit Raymu is great.

>>93219532
Given that I am attempting to make the most fucked up family imaginable from as many gamelines as I can manage? I would imagine they'd be more confused than upset.

Now how can I shove a Promethean in there?
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>>93219561
>Mhmm, that's fair. Maybe I'm thinking of them the same way as Creation!Dragonbloods, who would likely have a very different reaction.
Reminder it was the dragon blooded who opened the black vault because they were getting fucked from all sides. They were even having their homes taken by packs of werewolves and had to defend them to the bitter end just to increase the chance of more dragon blooded being born.
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>>93219561
>Now how can I shove a Promethean in there?
The butler, of course.

>Maybe I'm thinking of them the same way as Creation!Dragonbloods, who would likely have a very different reaction.
In ExWoD, the Celestial Exalted are seen by the Dragonblooded as this dangerous force that could save the world or doom it. Except the world is already doomed, so heck with it, let’s roll the dice.
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>>93217622
Would Timeless Child even count as the Doctor since they didn't exist yet?
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>>93219595
>>93219597
Yeah, that's fair. In creation the Dragonblood are in the proccess of trying to stamp the Solars back out because they weren't the ones who set them free, but in the WoD they just said fuck it and opened the thing up. Very different situations to be in, and that's disregarding that they're a world superpower in one and getting their ass kicked in the other.

>>93219597
>Butler
Nah, while the family is plenty bullshit they aren't rich enough for one of those. I kinda want to make them a cousin, the adopted kid of either the uncle or the aunt, but I don't feel that fits very well. Maybe one of the changeling's boyfriend?
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Man I just wasted so much time engaging in a philosophical debate with a porn bot. How are you all doing?
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>>93219658
>Nah, while the family is plenty bullshit they aren't rich enough for one of those.
Depending on what the Solar son studies that could change.
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>>93219734
Any good replies? Sometimes thoes spit out gold.
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>>93219734
>>93219757
>porn bot
Last Origin boobs. That is all.
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>>93219749
They get unlucky and the son is Solar Dante. Killing monsters for cash but blowing it all on Pizza.
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>>93219757
Yeah a few. It's an intersectional feminist cuckoldry bot. My favorite was after tearing into it for a while I got an unironic "educate yourself sweety" type response.
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>>93219749
Reptiles.

Specifically because there's this one giant snake that may or may not be his wife from his past life that keeps trying to kill him.

>>93219765
Actually it's probably worse than that. He's going to end up killing monsters for great justice and if people pay him for it then great, but otherwise who cares?

The rest of his party cares, including but not limited to his sucubus gf, his vampire gf, the giant snake, and his magical girl sister who thinks her brother needs a real job and a gf that isn't a hussy.
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>>93219765
>>93219821
>Genius Mother: Money is of no concern when you intend to CHANGE THE WORLD.
>Hunter Father: This isn’t what you’d call a high paying job.
>Changeling Elder Twin Daughter: I can make money, it just won’t exist for more then a few minutes.
>Changeling Younger Twin Daughter: I can make money, it just comes with horrible side effects.
>Solar Son: Uh, I’ve been focusing on fighting.
>Princess Youngest Daughter: Darkness monsters don’t leave cash lying around when you defeat them.
>Dad's Hunter Brother: Sorry, I’ve spent most of my money on weapons and equipment.
>Mom's Mage Sister: I’ve focused more on the higher mysteries of existence.
>Dad's Hunter Father: I have problems holding down a job.
>Mom’s Dragonblooded Mother: My clan cut me off because of some… youthful indiscretions.
So much supernatural power, and bills prove to be the toughest challenge.
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>>93219734
Fiddling with my chain. Currently using a completely unbalanced Alt-Chain build rather than my usual set of houserules, plus a custom accommodation because I don't want to go without free items combinations/inserts.
First jump is Casual Sex World, Doujinshi High School, and The World of Lolis to pick up my minimal desired lewd utilities, acquire the means for a comfortable day-to-day life, and get around the fact that my age doesn't change when entering a new jump. Being an eternal shota is a decent workaround. I'd mix in more, but three is about as deep as I'm willing to go for combos/supplement modes.
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>>93219847
The greatest challenge for this family is the IRS.
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>>93219847
Mom actually has a decently high paying job as a locum tenens physicians - that is, a substitute doctor who gets called in whenever an actual doctor wants to go on vacation or gets sick themselves - she's just very delinquent on actually showing up for work because SCIENCE and also her kids are more important to her. She doesn't get paid often, but when she does she gets paid very well.

Similarly, Uncle Vigil Hunter is gainfully employed by the US Government as part of the men in black - sorry, as part of Task Force Valkyrie. He doesn't get paid enough for the shit he deals with, but he does live comfortably.

The rest though, especially the kids? Yeah, they got nothing. Dragonblood Grandma probably owns her house because old money, but that's stability rather than purchasing power.

>>93219937
Now that I believe. Once the younger changeling daughter remembers she's an ancient and powerful fae she'll decided that money issues aren't part of her story and proced to get her entire family in trouble throwing around more money than they ought to have.
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>>93217445
Flow for the meme answer.
The one from Steel Ball Run is nice.
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>>93218033
Only if it doesn't come with something to let them work faster and better.
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Anyone know if the only dedicated staryard items are both from Star Wars (Squadrons and Force Awakens)? I've found myself rather bereft of dedicated facilities for this and would rather not jump right to the SupCom/Total Annihilation/Forerunner stuff to cover the currect deficit, they'd be a touch too disruptive right now.
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If I wanted to use the powers/device from one Kamen Rider jump as my main tool set in ALL of the Kamen Rider jumps which one would be the best for that?

Conversely which Kamen Rider series would be the best to watch to get a good idea of the themes and power levels of Kamen Rider in general?
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>>93220016
I think the Stellaris jump offers the mega shipyard.
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What would be my chances of survival if I wanted to do a full run of Jojo jumps as a villain?
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>>93220016
There's a Shipyard in Heaven's Reach.
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>>93217445
Go campione. You have multiple luck perks with being a Campione having super luck built in and multiple luck authorities.
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>>93220016
You can get Orbitals and a GSV (which doubles as a mass population luxury ship and shipyard) in The Culture - Minds.
There are also a shipyard purchase in Space Evil Lord.
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>>93219937
Isn't the IRS backed by the Technocratic Union in the OWoD?
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>>93220016
There's another one in the classic Battelfront jump.
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Are there any anime style western fantasy jumps that has stuff like the sharingan,
Mystic Eyes from Type-Moon, the All Seeing Eyes of the Gods from Blood Blockade Battlefront or any other types of eye/ocular based magic with cool visual changes?
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>>93220077
Nah that's just a hanger, a pretty good hanger item at that though.

>>93220067
>>93220047
>>93220036
Feel like these settings all fall into the disruptive level for my chain right now, an early game Stellaris shipyard might work but that entire setting would throw things a bit out of wack for my chain progression
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>>93220105
The Almighty from Bleach.
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>>93220122
NTA but Bleach isn't an "anime style western fantasy jump" anon.
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>>93220118
>Feel like these settings all fall into the disruptive level for my chain right now, an early game Stellaris shipyard might work but that entire setting would throw things a bit out of wack for my chain progression
Bitch, a spaceship shipyard is going to disrupt 95% of the chain.
Most settings don't go above city level, so they are fucked by someone who holds absolute space supremacy and can just do orbital bombardment.
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>>93220105
Chaos Eyes (webmage)
being a Drafter/Light Splitter (Light Bringer)
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>>93220016
In Homeworld you can buy a mobile shipyard
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>>93220132
It was more the production scale, doesn't matter now as I've just remembered the Orbital Refinary from Hive Queen Quest which works perfectly at this stage.
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>>93220016
Go to Battlestar Galactica. You can take a ship of your choice, you aren't limited to just a battlestar per the wording in the jump. In the spin off game series there was a construction yard ship. Just pay a bit extra and fan wank that you can get that construction yard ship.
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>>93220132
NTA but you can't look me in the eye and say that Culture Minds and Stellaris aren't on the same level of SupCom and Forerunners in the clarketech department
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>>93220045
>novel_kars_get_wonder_of_u
Wrong.
It would be Wonder of U Utimate.
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>>93220105
Demon Eyes in Mushoku Tensei can be pretty nice.
Highschool DxD got some eye based sacred gears like Forbidden Balor View or Cassandra Calling.
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>>93220105
We recently got Redo of Healer, it's one of the Capstones, and it's super useful.
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>>93216984
Xmen movies has a Danger sense power called Precognition
Dodgeball has one but it's a fiat perk
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>>93220072
I would assume the IRS is a Syndicate/NWO front.
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>>93220142
Am I missing it or is that not an option?

>>93220162
That works, the specialist ship option seems freeform enough for it. Pity there isn't a Daidalos option
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>>93219963
>The rest though, especially the kids? Yeah, they got nothing. Dragonblood Grandma probably owns her house because old money, but that's stability rather than purchasing power.
Maybe Grandma can point the kids to some summer jobs working for the Dragonblooded clans.

>she'll decided that money issues aren't part of her story and proced to get her entire family in trouble throwing around more money than they ought to have.
The question is, does the Grandma have the charms needed to give their Disappointed Grandma Look essence backing, to convey even more disappointment?
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>>93220207
Its the Mothership option.
>Each purchase grants you a single Mothership or Shipyard class vessel. Motherships are more versatile and mobile, while Shipyards are more specialized for production facilities and industrial support.
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>>93220222
You must have a different version to whats on the drive as there is no mothership purchase option that I'm seeing
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>>93220241
He's probably talking about the turbo wank SB version.
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>>93220220
>Maybe Grandma can point the kids to some summer jobs working for the Dragonblooded clans.
This ends with the Solar son adding dragon blooded cousin's to his growing harem.
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What did you do in Invader Zim?
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>>93220258
Never has the Disappointed Grandma Look been given such a workout.
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>>93220241
NTA but I assume he means the plans for the Sajuuk.
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>>93220241
Idk what the fuck happened, but I guess I have a different version. Give me a moment and I'll make a mega or something, since the pdf is more than 8mb
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>>93220246
>Capital Ship (100CP)
>Super-Capital Ship (150CP)
>Mothership (400CP)

I see it now, I dislike how cheap the Mothership is but I've got to admit that being able to actually by the keystone of the entire setting is a benefit to this version

>>93220261
I plan to steal Mars and Venus, what kind of alien empire just leaves behind to battle planets and doesn't expect the monkey people to take them over.
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>>93220291
>>93220283
I was going to post the SB version now that I've found it but it's more than 8mb so guess you'll have to settle for the link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bx8aY9e6D9gJMBJvhqxPcrDCot1kOp-/view
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>>93220281
>Dragon blooded
>Disproving of incest
Come on now. We all know granny planned this to try (and fail) to whip him into shape.
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>>93220299
>Venus
It was Mercury, and you might want to do something about the cockpit's aesthetics before you harness it.
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>>93220312
>and fail
There you are.
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Something is wrong with me and I'm adding OCs just to help with my jump's formatting. Would anyone have any suggestions/requests to further enable this dumbass idea? I need (at least) one more to make things fit neatly on the page without bigger empty spaces than I'd like there to be.

Also here's the latest one, based on Korra.
>Bringer of Balance (50): Erumenta are a race that look very similar to humans or tret but with an obvious elemental bent but this woman is a bit different, with relatively normal brown skin along with bright blue eyes this fit athletic tomboy possesses a talent with every element that very few of her cousins can match even when focused on just one. She was carefully raised, and in secret engineered, to be a peacemaker in a society with great social conflict between different groups of Erumenta who placed a bit too much emphasis on their elements. She turned out to be a little bit of a failure since she’s more interested in adventure and sports than diplomacy, but regardless she’s an exceptionally powerful elemental adept happy to be by your side or in your bed.
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>>93220220
>Summer jobs
Aint nobody got time for that shit.

No, but she has sandals of +3 headslapping.

>>93220258
>>93220312
I wouldn't actually do that because I don't want to resuse splats like that. I'm only adding two changelings/hunters because they're from different splats, so two dragonbloods just isn't happening. If the solar met a girl while working a summer job, she'd probably be a leviathan.
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>>93220346
A Jedi and Sith pair?
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>>93220330
>Dragon blooded granny starts giving her her nieces the stare after seeing them helplessy fall in love and start following her grandson on his adventures.
They never stood a chance. Haghty princess types are weak to incest and heroic types. Being dragon blooded just made it worse.
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>>93220346
A shadow manipulator based on Midna.
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>>93220061
Campiomeh luck so bullshit makes a random schizo kill a god
Too bad mc is a faggot
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>>93220346
But Korra is cringe.
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>>93220346
I have a vague memory of there being some old granny lady who gave one of the human girls a poke of emboobening. Something like that? Old granny lady who wants to know why you don't have seven wives yet and is more than happy to screw with you in various ways to make it happen.
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>>93220383
I still can't believe something genuinely started like that.
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>>93220176
What does it even do?
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>>93220383
>Stack every luck perk but don't take Pandora's child.
What are the chances I accidentally became a Campione?
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>>93220346
>OC
>based on korra
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, there
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>>93220383
Have you ever watched a harem anime where the MC isn't? It seems to be a common through-line when ever you talk about one.
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>>93220352
>No, but she has sandals of +3 headslapping.
Passable, but only just, a proper Grandma must have a proper Disappointed Grandma Look.

>>93220371
She doesn’t actually mind, but as a Grandma she’s contractually obligated to be disapproving whenever the kids are being foolish, even if said foolishness will work out for the better in the end.
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>>93220389
>>93220434
If it makes you feel better the Korra Expy is literally there to fill a space that was too small for any of the existing OCs yet too big for my autism to leave empty.
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>>93220453
Testament.
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>>93220453
NTA, obviously, but Hachiman is pretty great.
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>>93219435
>My skin is not thick enough to deal with shiposters who find an IP "problematic".
In my experience this isn't that impactful. You know people are being irrational or shitposting so you don't care as much, and the few honest/reasonable posts shine through.
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Rolled 2, 2, 1, 2, 2 = 9 (5d2)

>>93219734
Just chillin', maybe makin' a build soon.

>>93219493 (Me)
Well that's - less than completely terrible. For fun and because I needed to remake that build may as well roll for voice too, because that makes more sense in the context of multiverse madness than trying to figure out how to translate the menu/data fuckery for that specific process into an in-setting thing knowing that wouldn't be anywhere near as granular. Anyways...
>1: EN dub
>2: JP dub
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>>93220401
Ultimate Stands are Stands that are gotten by Ultimate Life Forms. Their potentials pushed to the maximum. Whitesnake Ultimate can make DISCs like normal, but it can also copy, create, and downgrade DISCs.

So it would be Wonder of U, but even more bullshit and probably some powers thrown into the mix.
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>>93220462
That really isn't a harem anime, at least not in the same way.
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>>93220462
Hachiman 100% wanted to bang Saika Totsuka though?
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>>93219734
At work writing new chapter of my fic and shitposting occasionally here.
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>>93220462
>Hachiman
>great
>this pretentious joke a series full of retards
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>>93220478
I think he's asking what kind of powers "WoU but even more bullshit" would have
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>>93220433
It kinda happens with the protag of the sequel. A Goddess falls into his laps, they become friends and he becomes a Campione shortly after by not killing the other goddess that was pursuing her and taking her Authority.
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>>93220509
Hey, your offending everyone on SB who self inserts as him and his "competency" and "realistic outlook"
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>>93220346
>Captain Amelia (Treasure Planet)
>Judy Hopps (Zootopia)
>Centorea Shianus (Monster Musume)
>Master Tigress (Kung Fu Panda)
>Stella (Helluva Boss)
>Muffet (Undertale)
>Mineru (TLoZ: Tears of the Kingdom)
>Pile of kobolds, though that might technically be covered by Arrangement.
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>>93220509
Still better written than 99 percent of harem anime, and Hachiman is absolutely a better MC than 99 percent of harem anime MCs.
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>>93220511
Then the answers would probably be "On top of being bullshit, think of any applications it could have, push it even more".
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>>93220521
It is kinda crazy how many loosers resonate with him but fail to recognize that he's a pretentious fuck up.
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>>93220513
>he becomes a Campione shortly after by not killing the other goddess that was pursuing her
Now I haven't looked at this series in a... really long time. But isn't killing gods the whole thing around being a campione?
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>>93220536
>Captain Amelia (Treasure Planet)
Any chance of a dupe? The existing one is basically a WIP
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>>93220547
That's why they resonate with him so hard. There as tone def as the character.
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>>93220521
Next to every other characters, he is competent.

The sad thing is that I can sorta relate to him, he is dead inside he just want to live his life in peace, but then his retarded teacher want to "rehabilitate" him because reasons. And then he's forced to deal with retards, and oooh, pretentious reasons and even more retardations.

>>93220547
>he's a pretentious fuck up.
That's the best part, he's probably the least pretentious character.
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>>93220453
Yes
Twgok, kamidori, testament, hagure yuusha, failure knight, toaru, Kurenai (kinda), senren, etc.
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>>93220564
Eh, why not.
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>>93220573
I can see why you relate to him.
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>>93220573
>he's probably the least pretentious character.
And just to be clear, before the inb4, it's not a compliment.
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>>93220595
Called it.
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>>93220584
>Twgok
Too bad he had oneitis for worst girl.
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>>93220607
When does an MC have oneitis for anyone BUT worst girl?
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>>93220584
Nta but good list, even if Kamidori's MC (and everything) is too generic for me, and failure knight is bad.

>Twgok
A very special anime. But he's a "loser". (apparently)

>oneitis
And a very bad sickness.
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>>93220045
They usually die, and the ones who don't wish they were dead, so based on our sample your odds aren't good.
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>>93220607
People being so salty about Chihiro winning is still funny to me.
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>>93220346
Othinus expy. Is a highly experienced user of Axiom and will gladly take you on as a student.
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>>93220346
>>93220397
Or maybe a bisexual Axiom expert who enjoys giving less endowed girls the emboobening poke.
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>>93220539
Maybe you can now sic it on people regardless of whether they're pursuing you.
That'd be pretty bullshit.
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>>93220573
No, he is indeed a stupid contrarian and he himself admits it. He is, however, incredibly reasonable even at his worst, also he likes to be a fuck up whenever a cliche appears so he's kinda great for forcing other tards to develop.
>>93220558
Ren likes to go against the current. Also his Nemesis authority+ his harem of hot goddess is more than enough
>>93220433
199%
>>93220400
Toaru starts with Touma trying to save a bunch of delinquents from a 14yo middle school girl.
>>93220621
>>93220612
>>93220607
Don't fucking remind me. The whole last arc was such a shitshow.
>>93220632
I'm still mad
>>93220637
You can recruit othinus in the new toaru jump (tba) and she's a terrible person
>Captcha: sxs0
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I think the companion stipend is getting doubled. . .
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>>93220662
They still keep being retarded though.
You know the whole overcomplicated way of thinking and such. God I hate it.
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>>93220662
>I'm still mad
Fuck I can't find my image. Somewhere I have a great collage of the /a/ thread when the first leaks came out about the ending. Half the thread denied it up until the official release.
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>>93220661
It doesn't help that WoU is by itself a very special stand, seemingly being an avatar for Calamity.
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>>93220536
Based.
>>93220585
So fucking Based.
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>>93220672
I'd like to request an import clause for items, or at least the stuff smaller than a planet. You can throw it in the notes if putting it at the top of the items section would mess up the formatting.
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>>93220672
Having lots of wives fits the setting.
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>>93220686
If you mean the overanalyzing then you should just give it up, it's a very well written trait to have them constantly thinking about stuff.
Even yukinon development is nice despite being mostly off screen and only shown in actions.
It's a good show but the last third of the novel felt incredible melodramatic and kinda padded in odd ways.
>>93220695
I'm still mad.
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>>93220454
>>93220371
Yall are assuming that grandma will have a lot more interaction with the kids than I'd been planning on.
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>>93220346
One with a svelte figure who enjoys it and doesn't want to be a titty monster.
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>>93220539
You can control your own Calamity and push it away from yourself like a souped-up Love Train.
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>>93220730
I REALLY don't think it's a well written trait when every characters are basically super computer trying to process human emotions running on Windows Potato.

>the last third of the novel felt incredible melodramatic and kinda padded in odd ways
Just give the gun.
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>>93220662
>and she's a terrible person
She's pretty alright by magic side standards and her tendency to explain stuff is quite useful.
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>>93220662
Yeah but she's hot so "I can fix her!"
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>>93220756
Heh.
Grandblue jump never ever.

>>93220773
>She's pretty alright by magic side standards
All is forgiven. 500000 points for Gryffindor.
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>>93220736
There needs to be some interaction. One of the most important duties of a Grandma is to tell the grandkids embarrassing stories about their parents.
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>>93220105
Dream power from Friday the 13th would be fair use imo
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>>93220807
*nightmare on elm
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When I need to catch up on a long thread I read bottom to top
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>>93220662
>and she's a terrible person
What’s your point?
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>>93220536
>Judy Hopps
I remember the scene with her in the area for tiny rodents and am using this as an excuse for giant bunny girl.

Ascending Officer (50): Resembling a grey furred anthropomorphic rabbit this short woman has a dream, one she has succeeded in despite her difficulties. She has always wanted to be an officer of the law, someone able to arrest criminals and serve her community. The issue is she’s barely half the height of many species, something that makes it hard for her to physically restrain those she might try to arrest; her only being busty by human standards (even relative to her size) does not do much for her confidence either. Fortunately she has found a solution in Axiom, being able to control her size such that she could carry the likes of a Cannidor or Agela around like an action figure or move quietly through tight places like a mouse. While a bit more difficult and requiring she get ahold of them first she can also change the size of others, something that’s convenient given her favored response to any comment about her breast size is to stuff the perpetrator right between them; though she wouldn’t mind being in the shirt pocket of a guy she likes either.
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>>93220829
BASED!!!
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>>93220802
Grandma is currently plotted to show up dramatically at some nebulous point in the ExVsWod jump. She's not on great terms with her kids, but after getting reports about Weird Shit TM happening in the same city as one of them, she thought she'd drop to make sure her daughters were still alive and all that. She spends the next while trying to hunt down said Weird Shit TM, which turns out to be her grandson and his girlfriends waging a war with the local werewolf clans over a manor built on top of a local leyline. And winning.

Or maybe she drops in halfway through the fight to try and help them because that used to be HER manor damnit, and then later when she visits her daughter they meet back up and do a spit take. She'll stick around for a while at that point, but I'm not really planning on giving her a major role.

...In complete honesty, the only reason I'm putting so much effort into this family is because I can't think of anything for Messier to do. She's going to be busy being drunk off her ass or cleaning up the consequences of being drunk off her ass 90% of time, so you get things like Hunter Dad trying and failing to arrest her a number of times, or Secret playing wise mentor to the Solar. In essence this time it's less about her and more about people reacting to the damage she causes.
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>>93220769
>characters are basically super computer trying to process human emotions running on Windows Potato
That's literally one character. Yukinon is just a bit stunned and she pretty much becomes normal the more she interacts with decent people and grows as a person.
Every other character is better adjusted. Yes, even the chunni fatso. Except Harunon, she's basically a less bratty Scarlett from gone with the wind but a bully instead of a slut.
>>93220773
>She's pretty alright by magic side standards
What???
Magic side may be full of egocentric imbeciles, but few are horrible people like Terra and Freya or stupid like Vento and Sheryl. Even then they usually have their reasons to be retards with an axe to grind against the world.
Magic side has people like Kanzaki, Orsola, Itsuwa, Lessar, etc.

Science side has fucking Aleister, the 5k Kiharas, the fucking board that literally sends children to die of hunger because they don't feel like losing their jobs in the middle of the Elements Apocalypse, dark side, etc.
Their moral heroes are fucking Touma, Accel 'I killed 10k baby clones', Mikongto, Misaki 'time to hypno app' shukuhou and fucking kuroko
>>93220785
Touma 'fixed her' a bit
>>93220827
Just saying. Enjoy your odin waifu.
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>>93220872
>That's literally one character. Yukinon is just a bit stunned and she pretty much becomes normal the more she interacts with decent people and grows as a person.
>Every other character is better adjusted. Yes, even the chunni fatso. Except Harunon, she's basically a less bratty Scarlett from gone with the wind but a bully instead of a slut.
Not by much, and not helping.

>Just saying. Enjoy your odin waifu.
Where is the Doi?
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>>93220872
Perché i tuoi gusti sono così schifosi? Por que seu gosto é tão ruim? Carson a tha do bhlas cho gòrach?
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>>93220829
>she wouldn’t mind being in the shirt pocket of a guy she likes either
Just remember to stop her before she tries to shrink down and crawl inside your urethra.
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>>93220672
Would you consider a bulk option for Cosplay Expy?
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>>93220872
so, how much stuff left until jump done?
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>>93220829
As I'm an idiot who forgets about plans halfway through fluffing what the ideas are for the Judy Expy will also optionally come with a 'few' of her sisters, though they're just cute bunnies without any extraordinary abilities. Their cop older sister will want to. . . observe your relationship with them for entirely pure and upstanding reasons.
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>>93220872
>Zaimokuza
>Well Adjusted
You are shitting me right?
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>>93220885
Asking why my taste is shit in 3 languages using google translate isn't very nice,
>>93220884
>Not by much, and not helping.
>teens aren't super well adjusted
Shocking revelations, anon.
>>93220900
Fucking leave me alone. It will be done when its done. I'll work on it when I feel like working on it.
If you want it sooner then throw in ideas or suggestions
>>93220909
Dude apparently gets friends offscreen at some point. Including some female otakus. They seem to appreciate his antics.
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>>93220897
No, though the Arrangement option can be used to get a large group of a single species if you want and there's a new +0 drawback that allows custom species to the setting as a whole. 1+1 = 2.
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>>93220935
>teens aren't super well adjusted
They honestly feel like very bad computers to me like I said.
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>>93220935
>Dude apparently gets friends offscreen at some point. Including some female otakus. They seem to appreciate his antics.
Good for him. Having friends around like that is always nice.
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>>93220939
That only works if they’re all the same species.
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>>93220939
>that allows custom species
Adding, that allows adding custom species.
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>>93220016
40k Planetary Governor.
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>>93220942
I actually know a guy who unironically thinks like Yukinon and Hachiman. Weird dude but a good friend.
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>>93220957
The Arrangement option does not require all the girls to be the same species and the +0 is a full fanfic toggle that allows pretty much any species you want to add as long as they don't break the rules of the setting or be innately stronger than the high level species such as Apuk in strength or Gravia in intelligence.
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>>93220346
I see Eggmaam in there so how about a Rouge?
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>>93218642
No. Also don't bring a Porygon to Digimon or an AI god will try to destroy the world
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>>93220953
He's also a relatively nice guy and his more extravagant quirks get shed as the series progresses, by the end he's just a very nice, energetic and quirky otaku that (according hachimeme) would be extremely handsome by losing weight.
>>93220942
I went to a catholic highschool kinda geared towards maths and science. The oregairu cast in incredibly well adjusted in comparison to the messes there were there, me included.
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>>93219007
They're preparing for the yearly skeleton war in two months
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How dangerous would Exalted Solars be as a first jump for a character that doesn't know anything about creation or what a solar is?
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>>93220977
Well I don't have a thief anywhere. . . we'll see how things develop.
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>>93220983
If that's well adjusted I fear for you life. And your brain. The slow lines of simple coding it must have gone through...
But yeah, I don't like it, and I don't like that style of writing.
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>>93220009
They're legal loli hikkiNEETS. They don't work by definition.
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>>93220990
Mostly fine as long as you stick to the North or the Scavenger Lands, that way you're strong and not in the Realm's zone of influence.
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>>93220990
Eh. Bad, but not that bad. Demons bad, zombie gods worse, empire that wants to kill you not actually bad per say but bad for you personally. And being a Solar, as long as you don't die you'll Git Gud real quick.
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>>93220974
>The Arrangement option does not require all the girls to be the same species
>>93220939
>the Arrangement option can be used to get a large group of a single species if you want
I can see what you mean, but the first post gave a slightly misleading impression.

>>93220974
>and the +0 is a full fanfic toggle that allows pretty much any species you want to add as long as they don't break the rules of the setting or be innately stronger than the high level species such as Apuk in strength or Gravia in intelligence.
My love of Blue Kama shall be rewarded.
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>>93220990
There’s plenty of dangers, but you’re a powerful figure at the start and you’ll become even stronger as you go along.
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Are the apuk in out of cruel space basically bowsette expies? I know I saw a jump posted recently.

Also axiom in story seems stupidly broken, able to turn someons blood into acid in a second is pretty crazy.
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>>93220990
You can always hide underground working with the Jadeborn. They might not like you but you are useful.
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>>93221009
It's worth pointing out that the girls from the Arrangement option are individually unexceptional members of their species aside from some having as of yet untapped talent in their areas of interest. If you want them replicating any crazy fate bullshit they're going to need to learn it and as powerful as Axiom can be it isn't all powerful.

Nasu goddess with a galaxy in her hair probably has bullshit that isn't readily available with Axiom assuming it's available at all.
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>>93221053
They are koopas, yes.
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>>93221053
>Are the apuk in out of cruel space basically bowsette expies? I know I saw a jump posted recently.
Apuk are indeed Bowsette the species.

>Also axiom in story seems stupidly broken, able to turn someons blood into acid in a second is pretty crazy.
Very much so, a lot of the Axiom bullshit is the result of incredibly talented geniuses or old monsters who've been practicing and expanding their powers for longer than any human has ever lived but the potential for Axiom can be ridiculous.

There was one story arc where the team who joined up with the priates fought two crazy bitches who had each depopulated a noteworthy chunk of the planet the story was happening on, because they were that strong and everyone else around them died or fled.
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>>93221061
Also this is me my name just fell off for some reason.
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>>93221064
>>93221098
Well damn now Im excited for the jump. Its totally different than my normal magic and Im sure a male vampire with functional anatomy will go over terribly but as long as I avoid the dog women that could be a really fun setting to jump.
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>>93221061
>>93221106
Actually I’m thinking of being Kama myself. I don’t expect to replicate all, or even many, of her powers with Axiom, I’m just looking at the galaxy in my hair and hoping that’s possible as an effect.
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How big are your jumper's balls?
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>>93221143
Big enough to drown someone.
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>>93221138
There's an entire species that's literally a bimbofied math equation, pretty sure you find get any aesthetic you want as long as it's curvy. And you could probably modify it to be not curvy if you really wanted to.
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>>93221151
>bimbofied math equation
I'm gonna next more context, chief.
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>>93221151
Could Axiom let you survive in the void of space?
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Someone asks jumper for advice. What words of wisdom will jumper give them?
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>>93221163
Not him but a religion called the Gravid used Axiom to mathematically affirm life, which became the Gravia. The Gravia talk like stereotypical bimbos and have absurd bodies even by Axiom standards, but are actually hyper-intelligent. As living Axiom, they are super vulnerable to null though.
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>>93221151
>Bimbo Life Equation
Oh no
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>>93221143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwJ6OVSwkM
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>>93221188
What are they asking for advice on?
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>>93221163
So a particular religious group that has strong views on a man's role in life (that is to say in bed impregnating his wives) managed to create an entire new species around a math equation that supposedly proves that life and joy are objectively wonderful.

Unlike most species that are heavily dependent on Axiom the Gravia are essentially made of Axiom, they are also REALLY friendly, super intelligent like the Apuk are super strong, and are described as 'non euclidean bimbos' (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean). The bimbo part is in their personality not just their body like everyone else, they are the brainy bimbo archetype.

I have no idea how to deal with them so they probably won't be getting an OC.
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>>93221219
>non euclidean bimbos
Ah, so another author not knowing what (non-)eucildean geometry means.
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>>93221185
Yes, you can convert axiom into matter so just conjure an air bubble around yourself and then continuously transmute the air so that it remains breathable.
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Is Out of Cruel Space safe horny or based horny? Given it was posted on reddit, it seems safe to assume the former, but just checking to see if anyone else has thoughts on the matter.
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>>93221219
>I have no idea how to deal with them so they probably won't be getting an OC.
Why not? It sounds pretty easy, just some bimbo scientist companion
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>>93221248
The author is an (actual) autist who has got into shit throwing in his comments about refusing to use gender identity because as an autist it upsets his rules based thinking, so take that how you want.
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>>93219734
Using bots to test chain ideas/concepts for different jumpers and help me think.
>>93221188
Timetravel is bullshit.
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>>93221250
Mostly because of the whole math elemental thing, I just have a hard time wrapping my head around it despite super genius waifus talking like valley girls being at least a bit hot to me.

It doesn't help that anon>>93221236 is right, the author had no idea what the words he was using to describe them actually meant.
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>>93221244
Good to know, thanks! Being voided xenomorph queen style is something I worry about if I'm thinking of going to a scifi setting early on.
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>>93221271
I think based on the chapter I remember reading, they are polygonal but the exact polygon count changes moment to moment and they can control it if they want to.
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>>93221260
Huh. Well, it's at least mildly non-pozzed. How is he not banned from reddit?
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>>93221248
Well the main idea of the setting appears to be that women want men to just stay home having sex and being pampered by their wives while human men (and some alien men who get sick of being coddled) go off to have schlocky space adventures.

Feel free to decide whether that's safe or based horny yourself.
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>>93221248
It has graphic sex scenes that the author has told people to just deal with if they don't like 'em.
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>>93221271
That makes sense, from the little I've read it doesn't seem like the author does a great job of actually illustrating these races that well
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>>93221297
That's not what he means by safe/based horny. Ignore his shitposting.
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>>93221284
>Waifu shifts between old school laura croft and high definition cgi bimbo making a slutty face depending on her mood.

I'll keep things in mind, the companion section is now well and truly out of hand.
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>>93221288
Because OoCS is one of the most popular stories on HFY and that subreddit in particular has mods who are chill with essentially anything so long as it's not illegal.
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>>93221151
>There's an entire species that's literally a bimbofied math equation, pretty sure you find get any aesthetic you want as long as it's curvy.
Works for me! The idea of innately floating around would also be fun to add in, but since I’m taking the Altered Form drawback that might mean I wouldn’t know how to move. On the other hand, that kind of thing is what the drawback is all about. On the third hand, if the floating is innate I might not need to know how in the first place.

>And you could probably modify it to be not curvy if you really wanted to.
Why would I want that?
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>>93221288
NTA, never read the story, and haven't browsed there in a long time; but the hfy sub mods are pretty chill about this sort of shit.
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>>93221210
Oh jumper of the multiverse, what is best in life?
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>>93221306
This. Don't reply to any retard who uses "safe horny". It's exclusively a shitpost term, on the same level as native isekai.
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>>93221329
They kind of have to be in a subreddit about racial supremacy, even if the supreme race is all of humanity and the inferior ones meant to be sidekicks or waifus aren't actually real.
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>>93221335
Trip on, 9anon.
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>>93221297
>has graphic sex scenes
So did Baldur's Gay 3.
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>>93221332
Freedom. Freedom is best in life.
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>>93221344
Ngl, I never finished that game. Got into act 2 and lost interest.
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>>93221188
Sadly I don't have the lesbian of the cool comic. That was some good advice. words to live by.
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>>93221318
>Waifu shifts between old school laura croft and high definition cgi bimbo making a slutty face depending on her mood.
No one is ready for the pixel art waifus.
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>>93221318
Here's the bit that I was remembering.

>He had heard of the Gravia, seen the pictures of the women. Too many straight lines and perfect shapes. Honestly the race looked like geometry homework more than anything. Albeit in a fashion that a lonely high school teacher would put together in a half awake daze then lose his next few paychecks if not his job for.

Now, of course pictures of a Gravia as he’s doing extra last second research is one thing. Getting Frenched by one is another. He pushes back and she pulls away to smile. Seeming to shift from a small number to an enormous amount of polygons at the same time, it was like watching the strangest tech demo in real time as she shifted from to low resolution right in front of him. The effect was ethereal and otherworldly. Her eyes were enormous and guileless, her outfit was a single nylon dress that left her breasts halfway through spilling out and her hips bulging at the sides. Strappy, stiletto heels and big jangly bracelets and earrings complete the look of brainless but beautiful. She makes the already over the top and downright pornographic races of the galaxy look both conservative and understated.
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>Math Bimbos
I am officially interested.
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>>93221376
It tells me something about my brain that my thoughts immediately honed onto the fact these utterly alien creatures wear fashion recognisable to humans.
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>>93221306
>>93221334
What does he/it mean?
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>>93221376
This is clearer than I remember, Sultry Shapes added to the list of OCs waiting to be fluffed.
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>>93221385
They aren't math bimbos they are bimbo math.
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>>93221362
I am
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>>93221402
I was wondering how aliens reacted to the fact that several species seemed to exist in human media, except without massive tits.
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>>93220866
What are the rest of your companions up to, other than trying to reign you in?
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What is a based chuddy safe horny native isekai?
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>>93221413
Here's the chapter if you need it.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/rkxkbb/out_of_cruel_space_part_211/
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>>93221425
Goblin slayer.
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>>93221416
Close enough. I want to fuck the living equation waifus. I wonder what happens to the proofs and equations that make them up when they orgasm.
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>>93221425
You mean unsafe horny. If it's based and chuddy, it can't be safe.
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>>93221441
>I wonder what happens to the proofs and equations that make them up when they orgasm.
You complete them.
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>>93221411
It started as a way to poke fun at journos saying xyz horny game/show thing is okay and politically correct, but not YOUR horny, that's bad. Like, for example, hot tifa mods vs super ridiculous body builder muscular tifa mods. Then /v/tards picked up on it and everything they don't like is safe horny (derogatory), up to and including just generally toned women most people find attractive.
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>>93221283
The xenomorph girls are horrified by the alien movies and are terrified aliens can survive in space. Its a pretty funny couple chapters. The chestburster scene traumatizes them.
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>>93221425
Danmachi
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>>93221188
>Changing yourself is the simplest and most difficult thing you'll ever do. All you have to do is stop doing what you were doing yesterday, but good luck making yourself do that.
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>>93221288
He literally calls gay people an evolutionary dead end and tells them to seek therapy. I dont know how reddit hasnt deleted his account on principle.
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>>93221362
That art is gorgeous though
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Jumps where being the little girl is objectively the strongest build?
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>>93221200
I mean, it's definitely more fun than Anti-Life. Granted, No Fun Allowed isn't a high bar to clear fun-wise, but still.
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>>93220872
>What???
Remember when Styl first meet Touma and his first move was an attempt to burn the boy to ashes? That's the average magic side user.
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>>93221512
None.
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>>93221499
Huh, I didn't think such reasonable people could be found on reddit in this day and age.
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>>93221512
One can make a strong argument for Symphogear.
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>>93218668
I don't remember saying anything about a Lego game. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>93221200
Isn't that just 80085?
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>>93221512
Victim Girls, JK Taimabu, Symphogear, Generic Loli, World of Tentacles.
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>>93221533
I think he is confusing you with an anon who was working on LEGO Mars Mission or something like that.
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>>93221538
5318008
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>>93219274
I'm talking about a lore perspective, not a gameplay perspective.
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>>93221512
Needless
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>>93215789
More OC stand user companions/followers please
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>>93221509
In the hands of someone who knows how to use it, pixel art looks as good as any other art style.
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>>93221512
Ironically I can actually think of one. Black Bullet. Little girls are infected with a disease that gives them super powers. It is also slowly turning them in to monsters the more they fight. It's not a happy place but objectively it is the strongest build. Also I suppose many magic girl jumps would qualify.
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>>93220045
>DIO: dead
>Kars: comatose
>Kira: is a ghost detective
>Diavolo: is dying infinitely
>Pucci: died of oxygen poisoning
>Funny Valentine: infinitely spun in place presumably until he died of dehydration
>Tooru/WoU: was transferred a curse disease that turned him into a rock/was killed by something that doesn't exist
It's not looking good.
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>>93221512
Die Buster.
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>>93221512
Fate Kaleid Prisma Illya
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Is it morally wrong to use your fortune telling Stand to hook up with random hot muscular men?
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>>93221647
Can you just do us all a favour and kill yourself please?
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>>93221647
No. It is weird though.
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>>93221521
Styl is just constantly assmad about touma.
He's constantly assmad in general
>>93221647
yes and you're a twat
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>>93221655
Understandable.

>>93221668
>yes and you're a twat
You still owe me a femboy maid. You promised
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>>93221587
This is super impressive. I thought that was a 3d image.
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>>93221677
Some people really know what they’re doing.
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>>93221512
Wheel of Time arguably.
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>>93221706
Uoh cute feet
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>>93221668
>He's constantly assmad in general
And that's basically the modus operandi as far as To aru mages go.
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>>93221721
Most of necesarious are shown to be very professional. I think the only one who is assmad like styl is the proctor girl from the entrance exam SS with the amakusa. And I'm pretty sure it was out of racism.
Even with that the sheer assmad in the science side eclipses it. I mean, the science side was created out of aleister being assmad at the bri'ish. The magicians were made out of assmadness at the gemstones.
Hell, most espers aren't really espers, just a crude imitation using magic. That's why the american esper project failed.
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Where should I be making some helltaker expys?
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>>93221713
No. It really isn't.
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>>93221795
so what are the nations that matter in this world? Japan obviously, and it sounds like Europe is getting by okay. How are Africa and the Americas doing? China relevant?
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>>93221806
Shinmai Testament has a Cerberus expy
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>>93221806
In hell, obviously.
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>>93221806
If you're just trying to make look-a-likes, I imagine you could make a pretty good facsimile in Disgaea. Especially if you abuse the reincarnation system.
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>>93221647
It's actually pretty scummy to con people for sex. We of Custom Companion options, We have Appearance perks, we have companion perks. We even have perks where people will desire you despite your gender. This just seems like a horny post. Remember one of the unwritten rules of the board. Masturbate before you come here. We don't want to be a partner in your fetish.
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>>93221863
>We don't want to be a partner in your fetish.
I might if it caters specifically towards my own fetish. Unfortunately for anon, that is not the case here.
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>>93221806
Overlord
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But consider: low-poly waifu.
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>>93221318
Honestly you may be better off just saying build your own custom companion. There are a ton of races out there and I honestly prefer build your own companions over ocs myself.
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>>93221888
She's gonna end up in jail after the Pikachu girl gives a bunch of kids seizures and makes her take the fall.
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>>93221318
Please stop enabling the OC beggars.
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>>93221903
While potentially wise it is far too late for that.
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>>93221903
>>93221913
Hmmm
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>>93221674
>You still owe me a femboy maid. You promised
?
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>>93221913
OC Chads are some of the most valuable members of this community.
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>>93221915
Hey man I bring up how fucking annoying it is that 90% of jump feedback is begging for OCs all the time, it was just bad timing.
>>93221925
You faggots have not and will not ever contribute anything of value, you're just lazy unimaginative autists.
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>>93221927
You're literally asking for less attractive women in jumps and have the gall to call other people faggots.
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>>93221418
Horrified. They are horrified, there was apparently some aliens attempting first contact via psychic bullshit. It did not go well. A loy of them got turned into horror movie monsters. The predators are specifically called out in that any of the race that looks like them would see the movie predators as violent homosexual psychopaths while the alien franchise is basically wild and warped monstrous animals. The movies got a weird mix of stuff right and horribly wrong. Though they grey aliens were apparently due to one of them sending probing visions to humans because that was their fetish.
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>>93221914
Eh thats fine, just a way to save work for yourself and enable more freeform creation of companions. Up to you.
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>>93221938
>Though they grey aliens were apparently due to one of them sending probing visions to humans because that was their fetish
Based.
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>>93221927
Considering he started by asking for OC suggestions, this doesn’t seem like the best time to complain about people offering OC suggestions.
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>>93221936
Im pretty sure he is asking for the ability to make a companion as pretty as they want. Without the need to make 30 expies for people who cannot imagine for themselves. Like this entire thing is an imagination game, how do you play without one?
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>>93221936
There is the companion option. There are an infinite number of attractive women. You just unironically need your hand held through it.
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>>93221823
Japan as a country doesn't matter at all. It actually gets dissed in GT when Touma and the dex go out of AC.
The countries that have political standing are russia, AC, the coallision of eastern small countries, AC, bongderland, france, AC, usa, and AC

The geopolitical situation in Raildex is actually mentioned several times and not explored in detail because no character is in a good enough position to do so - given that they are all teens basically shackled to AC (real reason is that kamachi would piss up people if he wrote about it).
Bongladesh history with magic and witch hunts is important, as it is their prissy relationship with france as those are what drives Carissa to try a coup during British Halloween.
Aleister hate for the bri'ish is what convinces him to buy land in tokyo after the war and create AC there using magic temples as a base for the design.
USA having basically all the power as normie humans but being basically defenseless against magic should a big shot name appears is what drives that media misinformalist into trying to make the place a theocracy
Russia loses all its influence after AC rapes its ass during WW3, but how AC is basically reconstructing it to further its own goals is what drives some thot into Gremlin during NT.
Its noted how AC is almost fully self functional but not fully there yet at the constant invasions does wear it out. USA has all the bombs but it means jack shit if someone like Alice or Accelerator decides to level down the place and they know that. The bongs are basically being carried by the kamijou faction and they hate it. the french and other countries are being as neutral as possible to avoid loses even if that means losing potential allies.

Anyway if you want them to be a big part of the plot then no. Its mostly AC, with the bongderland in second place for locations where shit happens.
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>OC companions get anons mad
Does everything make people mad now?
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>>93221888
Watch out for those pointy bits.
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>>93221966
I'll make dozens of waifu OC companions and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>93221959
>>93221960
Because it's important that a significant portion of the jump reaffirms the concept of heterosexuality and conventionally attractive women. Otherwise certain groups of people will get the wrong idea.
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So replaying Noitas reignited a desire to make a wizard/Magician jumper. Wheres a good place to start for him? Preferably somewhere not to powerful. And potentially any special rules to have on the chain?
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>>93221966
Nowadays it's impossible for someone, somewhere, to not take offense to something, no matter how pointless. So yeah, basically. Yeah.
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>>93221966
Yeah sure dude it's great that every time someone picks up a jump they get 2 actual requests and posts of feedback and 20 anons begging for expys of whoever they happened to jerk it to that day. Instead of the retards just grabbing the generic companion option and going "yep, they look and act like X"
they're fucking mentally handicapped cunts that need someone to help them jerk it
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>>93221980
What flavor of magic do you want? Im stupidly drawn to world of darkness magic myself.
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>>93221988
See >>93221978 . It's not our fault that SBI-type individuals have forced us to do this.
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>>93221966
A jumpmaker doing it themselves did their own volition is fine, a couple dozen posts of anons begging for their waifu of the week to be added isn't. A lot of the time it doesn't even remotely make sense for the jump, it's literally just whoever has been on anons mind at the time.
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>>93221988
Maybe make this complaint about a setting that isn't specifically designed to be a male fantasy waifufest.
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>>93221959
>>93221960
>>93221927
>>93221913
>>93221988
>>93222006
Jumpmakers are people. If they don't want OC companion suggestions, they can simply say they're not accepting OC companion requests (whether because they're already full or whatever other reason). Jumpmakers can refuse on a case-by-case basis. They don't need retards like you chasing away people giving useful advice. If they lack the spine to tell people off despite not wanting it, they don't belong on 4chan.
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>>93222014
I wish I still had my Shard Kult waifu companion screencap.
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>>93222001
Shouting in an echo chamber?
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>>93221976
>I'll make dozens of waifu OC companions and there's nothing you can do about it.
That's part of why I love you my dear Italian friend. Your best OC companions are Obsessed Cultist and Crema Catalana
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>>93222014
Ironically the sheer number of races available mean you kind of need that oc create a companion option or you wont have even a fraction of them. Anon wasn't lieing when he said there were tons of them.
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>>93222038
No, to signal that jumps are meant to be used by heterosexuals.
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>>93222027
And you will bitch and moan and cry and spam and ask again and again just like you always do.
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>>93222046
Anon literally every jump has a create an OC option. It's been baked into the canon companion option for actual years. It's always "pick up canon OR make a new companion" and it's why the begging basically staples "I suffered a fucking lobotomy please jerk me off" on your forehead.
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>>93222053
We can't control the actions of falseflagging shitposters. Again, if jumpmakers can't learn to ignore it, they don't belong on 4chan. You shouldn't let your actions be decided by hypothetical people that might cause problems in unlikely scenarios.
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>>93221992
Oh all sorts really. I like JRPG magic, I like ritualistic magic, Eldritch stuff like in lovecraft. Elemental stuff however common as it is. Even much to my own reluctance Fates magecraft.

If theres a type of magic I'd want them to get into it eventually thats probably a bit of a cop out answer though.. World of darkness is cool. Though It might be best to save that for a few jumps down the line. Maybe sometime round Jump 10.

Maybe if only to as a start some kind of elementalism?
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>>93222006
>A jumpmaker doing it themselves did their own volition is fine
What if the jumpmaker asks for suggestions?
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>I've made 86 posts in this thread
Damn, I need to log off. Sorry, fellas.
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>>93222067
Sure to an extent just learn to chill instead of acting like crack addicts getting your next hit. At a certain point you gotta stop fucking flooding shit with your begging. And it does turn into begging after a point.
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>>93222060
Yes? Thats the point. There are so many races in this specific setting that they dont bother to learn names of races, your race is classified by a code denoting your body type, food type, ratio of male to female, and a few other things. They dont even bother with race names because they have to use serial numbers just to keep things manageable
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>>93222071
You're the new, somehow less active and annoying, Nyanko.
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Ok so I need some weird very specific things:
>Superspeed but without some required secondary powers; no higher reaction times, no super durability etc
>super regen, that restores limbs in an instant
>immunity to pain (optional)
>A way to gift those abilities as a superpower bundle to someone combined with an inability to toggle the power down

I want to make some lucky guy into the funniest superhero ever
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>>93222077
Where's this begging?
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>>93222087
Resident evil
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>>93222087
>I want to make some lucky guy into the funniest superhero ever
I don't think I should tell you where to find those things.
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Alright people, as always throw me some suggestions for ToAru.
Yes, my brain ain't working lately, thanks for asking.
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>>93222085
I'd take 10 PsychoAnons over 1 Nyanko.
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>>93222077
>math elemental
Well at a rough count I see 7 posts offering suggestions, plus that series of posts about the math elementals. Considering it was a request for OC’s, that doesn’t seem unreasonable.
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>>93222066
Ok so casylevania netflix has some awesome elementalism in it.
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>>93222115
I mean yeah, for sheer jump output alone.
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>>93222113
We've already done so before, post a wip so we know what we're working with man.
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>>93222119
That works for me. Thanks anon.
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>>93221823
>Japan obviously
AC is a sovereign state that Crowley funded by buying cheap land available after WWII. He himself even said that it could have been built anywhere if he could have managed to sufficient land back then.
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Rolled 2 (1d4)

Okay dice which Chain am I working on today?

>1. Demigod (and pick a jump to start it in)
>2. Changeling
>3. Robot
>4. Prophet
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>>93222113
A cuckquean with mind control powers.
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I like Nyanko and Psycho. They make the thread more lively.
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>>93222113
You know the drill WIP so we know what's already there and what you need help with
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>>93222164
Nyanko isn't even half the annoying cunt he was a couple years ago, so he's fine now. Psycho gets annoying sometimes, could be better, but could also be a hell of a lot worse so I'll take it.
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>>93222164
I'd like Nyanko if he was less of an obnoxious faggot. Like, I genuinely appreciate his builds, jumps, and writefagging. The problem is he keeps shitposting and spamming his fetishes/recent fixations.
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>>93222125
this
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>>93221992
OWoD magic is cool my only problem is that I can never find a way to deal with paradox. Even just a way to lower the backlash of spells one step from vulgar to coincidental and coincidental to consensual would be great.
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>>93222164
They make jumps, which puts them well ahead of most yappers.
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>>93222113
remember to back up your fucking files you dum dum
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>>93222193
i think the prime sphere deals with that? you can just like splurge on mana to make paradox go away iirc.
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What's your favourite magic item creation perk? I like the idea of carrying a shit ton of extremely varied items and just pulling out the right tool for every job.
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>>93222193
The marauder capstone can make everything coincidental.
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>>93222226
NTA but that also requires being a Marauder and therefore categorically insane (at least according to anyone who knows what you are, no matter how sane you actually are).
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>>93222113
>Magic Index in your brain like Index has
>Being a Saint
>Using mundane items as spell components like the Amakusa do
>General Magic expertise and magic style perks
>Using and incorporating Telesma into your magic like Birdway did or being infused with it like Sasha was
>General God's right seat bulllshit
>Magic items like the Curtana or the Croce di Pietro
>Uiharu's hacking skills
>Accelerator's calculation skills
>Heaven Canceller's medical skills
>Kihara science bullshit
>Tech perk for interfering with AIM fields
>Something to redirect the damage Espers receive when using magic to certain bodyparts or something else connected to their bodies
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>>93222222
The Arcane Craft from Sword and Sorcery.
If you like the idea of having a ton of things on hand with something on hand for everything, take a look at the Talismonger class in Overlord
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How do you justify your location purchases following you between jumps outside of CP fiat or pocket dimensions? I have an arcology full of people that follows me around and I need a more satisfying in-universe explanation for it than "I bought it in Free Cities".
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>>93222226
That only works on magic that falls into your theme as a Marauder.
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>>93222222
>Master of Mana (600 CP)
>Alchemy’s foundations are built on the magical knowledge of ancient civilizations who once made cities fly through the sky, battled demons from hell, and even unlocked the secrets of immortality with their mastery of magic. By comparison the simple battle magics known to modern humans are like children smashing rocks together, a pale imitation of what came before them, but in you the capacity for such things remains if only the knowledge can be rediscovered. You are a genius at manipulating raw magical forces, so much so that anything you can accomplish with alchemy you’ll quickly learn to replicate as magical spells. From hurling powerful fireballs and supporting your allies with healing magic to enchanting objects with magical properties, you can conjure these effects out of thin air as easily as you could in your atelier using magical power rather than raw ingredients. The energy required may be comparatively enormous but with training even this limitation can be overcome.
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>>93222244
It's tethered to your soul/powers and gets dragged along with you to a location nearby when you jump.
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>>93222222
I pick up too many. But one of my favourite ways to store them is using a card binder with magical items and one time use spells inside in the form of cards.
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>>93222244
Either A) it just drops in like I do or B) fiat-induced "This building and company definitely existed before today what are you talking about?"
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>>93222245
So choose your theme to be identical to your paradigm.
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>>93222226
That just makes a big area around you function on a different paradigm it doesn't actually deal with paradox or quiet.
It also is super obvious to everyone outside it when all the cars and planes turn into flying carpets or unicorns when they enter the area.
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>>93222244
>>93222269 (me)
I'm an idiot and misread the question.
The Warehouse is mine so anything connected to the Warehouse follows me. The properties are connected to the Warehouse, so they follow along as well.
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>>93221919
I asked Ric for a femboy maid when he was making OC companions and he said he'd put one in. Then some other anon started shitposting about it until Ric decided to not add it.
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>>93222193
Prime spheres and mana, if you have mana (or tass which is just mana in matter form) you can just pay away the paradox.

Theres also some fun stuff in one of the owod splats, not sure which, that says paradox is different for each mage and calls out a spirit sphere mage doing magic then waiting around for the paradox man, a spirit of paradox, to come round and bargaining or talking him to the final price of said magic.

Either way just dump in mana and paradox isnt really an issue. Or do magic in a sanctum/demesne. No paradox in those.
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>>93222255
Is that how lands work in MtG?
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>>93222163
I can do some cuck companions
>>93222197
How about no?
>>93222237
Damn some of those I didn't even think about. Thanks a lot anon
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>>93222113
Legal Loli perk based on Tsukuyomi Komoe, preferably with a thing that makes people not care about you doing adult things like binge drinking/smoking
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>>93222222
Iron Blacksmith from Duel Monsters The Shadow Realm. It'll let you enchant things with any magic you know, lets you reverse engineer enchantments to use later, comes with some basic enchantments already, and is part of a perkline that gives you a pocket dimension to store stuff in as a 100cp perk
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>>93222299
I shower too regularly to know anything about MTG.
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Given how the franchise has been powercrept to hell and back, can you survive in Fallen London with just the stuff the jump gives you?
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Naruto

Allegiance - Rain Village

Experience - S Class (500)

Perks
Combat Analyst
Chakra Control
Blinding Speed (100)
Genjutsu Specialty (100)
Hashirama Cells (200)
Sealing Specialty (200)

Kekkei Genkai
Sharingan - Kamui (600)

Drawbacks
Friendly Fire (+200)
Bountyx5 (+500)

"Everyone, I would like to introduce the latest member of our little family. This is Bito."

"Nice to meet you, everyone! I won't let you down."

"Excellent, now that introductions are in order we'll assign you a partner. You'll be working with-"

"Here ya go. Did I do it right?" Bito asked as he dropped every jinchuriki, unconscious and tied up, onto the floor.

"H-how did you...?"

"I can teleport anywhere. Plus I can suck people into my eyes and my genjutsu is good enough to mind control jinchurikis."

"Huh... That lazy motherfucker."

"What?"

"Nothing, I was thinking about something else. Anyways, I guess that just leaves the three tails-"

"That's already in Kamui, should I drop it here or-"

"Nonono, do not do that!"

Bito dropped the three tails from his eyes, crushing the Akatsuki headquarters.
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>>93222326
So long as you don't piss off anyone major, upset the Creditor, bully the Black (you monster), draw the attention of the Judgements, etc. Then yeah, you'd be fine.
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>>93222326
Yes, definitely. You could survive it as a totally normal human with no powers.

You know, since death is a temporary setback at best
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>>93222326
It's astoundingly easy to survive in Fallen London.
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>>93222326
>can you survive in a place where you can't die
Yes
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>>93221863
I hadn't quite decided on how my Fortune Telling Stand actually works. I'm still trying to find a good future related song.
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>>93222355
Based on what you posted before, this seems like it would fit.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c4zwIGF0mFQ
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>>93222348
People regularly get permakilled by the possessed serial killers that go around the streets, there's people whose day job is to permakill complete randos without giving a fuck about the why, there's monsters who will eat you whole everywhere, and hell, the cops will literally push you off the slow boat and permakill you if you're too much trouble
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>>93222335
you got an additional 100CP freebie you didn't use, personally I'd use it on the Body Flicker Technique.

Also you dont really need to buy Uchiha, since you only really need one eye you could just buy the implanted sharingan and the Mutation of Shin.
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>>93222371
>you got an additional 100CP freebie you didn't use, personally I'd use it on the Body Flicker Technique.
What? I'm pretty sure you only get two.
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>>93222342
>>93222344
>>93222348
There are many, many, many ways to permadie in Fallen London. Why do you secondaries insist in posting?
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>>93222371
>Also you dont really need to buy Uchiha, since you only really need one eye you could just buy the implanted sharingan and the Mutation of Shin.
If it's implanted it will work worse. It doesn't matter if you have Mutation of Shin or not. Mutation of Shin just means you won't literally die.
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>>93222361
That'd definitely fit being a time travel stand more than being a fortune telling stand. It'd definitely be wonderful for having an adorable relationship with historical figures though
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>>93222290
Yeah but you can only spend 5 mana per round max so if you are taking more than 5 paradox a round you will still get backlash so a big enough crowd will still fuck you over.
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>>93222384
Yeah, where the FUCK are all those Licenciate skulls coming from if I'm not permakilling people? Do I just, like, remove people's bones nonlethally?
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>>93222377
nope, you explicitly get three.
>In the following “Perks” Section, you are given a number of discounts to help tailor your build: three 100NP perks, two 200CNP perks, two 400NP perks. Discounted 100NP perks become free, while more expensive perks are reduced to half their normal cost.
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>>93222366
>>93222384
I played the game for a few years and didn't find a way to perma-die
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>>93222355
Just go with Michael Jackson's The Future.
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>>93222396
yes, because you have PC plot armor to the point where you can survive desintegration by sunlight by coincidentally dying from another wound a second before you would be hit by it
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>>93222386
No? Mutation of Shin lets you use the Sharingan freely like an original user, even letting you turn it off and on.
Also you wouldn't die either way, since the Hashirama Cells are there boosting your chakra levels and enhancing the sharingan, and the mutation of Shin enhances your bodies acceptance of those even more.
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>>93222395
Damn. I never noticed that all this time.
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>>93222411
Well still, having both Kamui is just better because the speed is doubled and I get the long range one too.
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>>93222222
The one in SMITE is really good since it puts you on par with Nu'wa and Hephastus.
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>>93222401
Well, that has some very simple lyrics.

I could honestly easily justify it as letting me meet my soulmate pretty easily too
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>>93222420
The smite jump is a special brand of god awful I won't touch. Somehow DOTA has the best jump out of all our moba jumps.
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>>93222431
>Best jump out of all our moba jumps
We have a jump for Heroes of the Storm
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>>93222389
Thats why you do big stuff in your own area using a soulstone anchor in nuwod, or just leave general area of consensus in owod. Going into the middle of nowhere far away from civilization makes your magic work better and easier in owod.

Plus you can always just grab mana from a different setting and pump that in but I dont know how viable that is. Also prime magic can just get rid of paradox at higher levels.
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>>93222448
Funny enough the turn off paradox spell is itself really vulgar so you still get fucked over for daring to try to do something about it.
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>>93222472
Eh fair enough. Thats why they made horizon realms after all.
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>>93222484
Yeah its why despite liking the rest of the magic system I never bother using it for a jumper because you can't have any fun in later worlds without getting fucked over for trying to have fun in public.
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>>93222494
just use maker of magic from weakness of beatrice to take out paradox from the magic system.
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>>93222526
You'd need to kill every single Sleeper for thatl
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>>93222494
I mean if magic is possible and known in those settings then its not an issue? Besides that is there really any problem using rituals to cut the crap of paradox and use it like that instead of snap casting? Doing a ritual is always better, or have yourself a handy pocket dimension somewhere to cast stuff in, or enchant yourself stuff up to work later. Also its one reason I like the nuwod stuff that just makes paradox a non issue. Im just saying you have options.
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>>93221064
>>93221098
What the hell is an Apuk? I see no images. Google is lost.
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>>93222532
Nah. You are the stronger mage, you can just make it so magic doesnt have paradox. Also realistically speaking your magic from modern wod shouldn't have paradox outside of that setting anyway. It doesnt have the whole bullshit broken reality to go through.
Or be an archmage.
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>>93222532
no lol
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Can Caine (WoD) stop the Infinite Spin?
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>>93222539
A species of dragon girls who can juggle tanks and breath fire, they also look like Bowsette. Various versions as they can shapeshift to a degree.
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>>93222539
An alien race of bowsette expies that decide societal power in their race by forging shells out of metal and seeing who is most powerful by breaking their enemies shells in a tournament. They all breath fire and are described basically exactly like bowsette.
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>>93222554
>>93222556
So it's a text-based medium? Fair enough. I like how they sound.
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>>93222539
Basically Bowsette. It is a written work, and no "official" art was posted for that species, but is meant to be a Bowsette race.

>>93222558
>So it's a text-based medium?
Yeah, you can read it here:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/nfsakq/out_of_cruel_space_part_1/
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So I've just discovered that Hunter the Reckoning has a website called hunter-net where they discuss various monsters and how best to fight them.

Someone please tell me not to rip off worm's pho interludes to make a bit about them reacting to the infodump that Messier gave Oaks. I have other things I want to work on, and it doesn't advance the plot at all, but it sounds hilarious.

>>93221423
I haven't decided yet, but the answer is probably going to end up being "a lot of shit". Like, Genius!Mom knows that Faries kidnapped obe of her kids and is determined to get her back, and was also spying on Messier's infodump to Hunter!Dad which means that for the first time in forever there is someone she can ask for help that she knows actually knows what the fuck they're talking about.

This may or may not end with Maria (Her OTHER fae daughter, from Changeling the Dreaming) and Noel breaking into Arcadia to rescue Angelica (the Changeling the Lost daughter) from her True Fae master and recreating the Hope In Hell scene from sandman in the process, and then accidentally-ing a signficant portion of Arcadia when they accuse Maria of cheating.

Secrets plotline is going to have more to do with Howard (Solar son) and Jade (Dragonborn Grandma) as they interfere in Princess shit and may or may not result in the redemption of a Queen.

Makoto I don't have even a vague plan for yet. I would say something about werewolves, but their only place in my writing is going to be as mook enemies who get stomped.

YG doesn't care about that shit, she just wants to spend time with Messier. She'll get dragged into stuff anyways because she'll head somewhere to meet up with me and the anti-fate effects will put her in entirely the wrong place, but strictly speaking she doesn't actually care.
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>>93222542
Archmages in oWoD still suffer from paradox, tertiary. It's why they can't even exist outside of Umbra without imploding. And for Chronicles, whilst they don't suffer paradox, they can't do shit without Quintessence and that takes going on a whole major quest for each one, and you need exponentially more the higher the ritual is. Not that they could fix Paradox anyway even if you gave them arbitrary amounts of it, since all paradox is sourced from the Abyss which would need a new Silver Ladder to fix.
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>>93222577
Thats a fun idea. Do it.
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>>93222583
what is the silver ladder and why can't they just make a new one?
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>>93222583
What about use the perk that allows you to rewrite how magic works do you not understand dumbass? Are you too mentally deficient to read one post up in the chain?
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>>93222583
The abyss doesn't even exist outside of new world of darkness.
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I'm pretty sure there's a perk that makes you immune to miscasts or other such things where you get fucked by your own spells going wrong. Unfortunately I don't remember where that's from. . .
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>>93222627
Doesn't work. Doing that would be removing a massive part of the magic system. That is beyond what most perks from settings can do.
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>>93222627
Yeah but paradox ain't miscasts its actually all the sleeping mages counterspelling you for going against what they think reality should be. Thats at its core what consensus is its all the mages who don't know they can do magic reinforcing their viewpoint on you.
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>>93222633
Nta but perks can do anything. Literally anything. You're just being purposefully difficult at this point.
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>>93222633
Are you retarded?
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>>93222618
It was the metaphysical bridge between the Fallen World, our material existence, and the Supernal, the plane of Forms and Ideas. This allowed for people to awaken to one of several Supernal Reslms and thusly gain access to magic. It was shattered when the Exarchs ascended up the Ladder, deposed all the old Supernal deities, then shattered the Ladder behind them so nobody could follow them up It and undo what they'd done. This is what created the Abyss and is what creates the massive divide that prevents most people in CofD from Awakening due to it being inbetween the connection to the Fallen and the Supernal, preventing the Watchtowers from reaching down and causing mass awakenings.
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>>93222551
no, he is a shitter and white wolf developers making a sheet saying you lose doesn't actually mean anything.
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Can your Jumper beat Goku tho
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>>93222652
Yep
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>>93222647
wouldn't that just be prime and space to make a new one?
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>>93222622
>rewrite how magic works
Why would this stop paradox? Your entire idea hinges on >>93222526 "removing paradox from the magic system" but paradox is an inherent part of it. Magic being vulgar is what causes paradox and even spells to negate paradox still end up being vulgar. It's not something you can "remove" because it's not a separate aspect of magic, to the point there are spirits of banality and paradox who actively represent it.


>>93222626
Yes, which is why I specified Chronicles in the latter half of my post retard.
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>>93222640
Which is why doing shit away from population centers is much easier. Hell if you can walk into the umbra and get out past earth into space you dont even need to deal with paradox. Its where the technocracy keeps all their wacky off the wall space bullshit, like deathstars and sailing ships powered by starlight in the void.

Nuwod I always though it would be a cool story hook that multple mages ascend together and weave their golden paths into a new road through the abyss for others to follow. A legacy that builds on yhe path with each person following it adding more and more to the golden road. Always seemed cool to me. Shame mages are generally too out for themselves.
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>>93222652
Outsmart him maybe, win in a fight, Naw. That's not happening unless they has 30 billion Spongebobs on their side. Then again I am only on their 4th jump and am taking it slow.
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>>93222640
i'm pretty sure with owod mage magic you can just get an infinite willpower perk from somewhere else and ram all your spells through by believing in yourself harder than all the normies disbelieve in you.
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>>93222669
No, because the Silver Ladder was high-end Ascended stuff. Ascended are to the highest and wankiest interpretations of archmages what those archmages are to everyone else. It's why the main goal of the archmasters opposed to the Seers (the guys who serve the Exarchs) is to Ascend because only by enough of them Ascending at once can they hope to either oppose the monopoly the Exarchs have over the Supernal or use their power to forge a new Ladder to allow the Watchtowers to mass-awaken everyone which will eventually lead to mass Ascensions.
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>>93222652
I can trap him
I can betray him
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>>93222674
So you don't know how the perk works or are too stubborn to admit you were wrong. Simply saying spells cant interact unless they do so on purpose negates your shit.
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>>93222684
>Outsmart him maybe
Simply tell Goku that the only way to defeat you is to kiss you. He'll give up due to not knowing what that is.
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>>93222698
>Simply saying spells cant interact unless they do so on purpose
Paradox has nothing to do with spell interactions.
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>>93222692
Anon no this never ends well
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>>93222652
Jumper went full martial and loves to fight. The two of them will Waku, Waku until the end of time. If Goku was a girl it would basically end in sex and battle.
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>>93222652
No but he can beat Abraham Lincoln.
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>>93222722
yes it does.
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>>93222692
I can feminize him.
I can mind-break him.
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>>93222731
The Immortal isn't that strong. Country buster at best.
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>>93221963
>Japan as a country doesn't matter at all. It actually gets dissed
>The countries that have political standing are russia, AC, the coallision of eastern small countries, AC, bongderland, france, AC, usa, and AC
Realism in a LN?!
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>>93222285
>I asked Ric for a femboy maid when he was making OC companions and he said he'd put one in. Then some other anon started shitposting about it until Ric decided to not add it.
Dang
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>>93222723
You mean, never ends at all? I've watched those TRAPPED and BETRAYED videos, they all end with "subscribe if you want to see more", even if the title has [FULL STORY] in them.
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I am making a Paracelsus Pseudo-Servant in Fate Zero.
Assuming I have him buy this perk
>Homunculus- 200
>You are an artificial human created by the Einzbern family, or someone who stole those techniques from them. This has imbued you with greater physical and magical power than most modern humans can even imagine. Your physical attributes are almost at the peak of human ability and your Magical Circuits number 200 in total. You also have an impressive affinity for magic in general, improving the speed with which you learn it. You may freely choose to take on an albino appearance, with very pale skin, white hair and red eyes, but you will not suffer any of the drawbacks of being albino nor the other associated penalties of being a Homunculus, such as limited lifespans.
Do you think there's much point in buying any stats in the Servant Supplement other than Magical Skill?
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>>93222113
Item or perk to be a member/leader of a secret group inside an big organization? Like God's Right Seat.
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>>93222652
Any reasonably fit person can beat Goku if they can build that ki wave jammer thing Android 21 built in FighterZ that just shuts off your ki unless you're a GoD, angel or something else permanently on that level or higher.

>But what if he attacks the machine-
Well that's what the Thorn Forged To Kill Kings and Mark of a Crimson King are for, to just yoink out his spiritual energy.

>>93222669
Also the Contagion Chronicle heavily implies the God-Machine is what became of the Silver Ladder after it shattered. Do you want to risk building a second mechanical kudzu demiurge if you fuck it up?

>>93222551
Unironically no. Not because it has infinite rotation, but because the Spin is implied to be the will of God. And despite some cope about the idea of diablerizing God, the available evidence suggests Cain cannot in fact do shit to God.

And JoJo's God is not deemed the equal of a being that can be killed by an Amazon rainforest's worth of life energy being fired directly at it's core.

>>93222244
You know those ancient cities that just kind of resurface at the turning of an age? It's like that. They're like metaphysical kudzu that herald my coming when the stars are right, except instead of R'lyeh it's a Waffle House.

>>93222222
Crafting the Legends and Bestowment from The Free Universe. It's nice to be able to turn Wish into a combat shovel anyone can use. Or better yet, THE LANGUAGE PRIMEVAL (which is like Wish but better in literally every way)

>>93221188
"Submit"

>>93221143
I dunno, how big is Galeem? That's how big my ball form is, roughly. Although thanks to Kirby and the Forgotten Land I do have a much smaller one too.

>>93219622
After it was re-retconned that the Toymaker in-universe screwed with the Doctor's backstory? Definitely.

>>93219537
Thank RTD, not me. And he'd beat Goku, Bejita-sama, Gohan, Black Frieza, Beerus (post-final Toriyama handjob), all the angels, Zeno and Jiren bloody at the same time btw

>>93219185
Holy fuck no.
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My Jury duty got cancelled, which means I don't get paid for the day off I took for it but have more time tonight and tomorrow to work on my jumps.

>Captain my Captain (50): Formerly a captain of a naval vessel this Feli woman struck out with her own ship, while certainly not unarmed and staffed by some of the same girls who served under her at wartime her new vessel is meant for exploration or treasure hunting rather than the more serious combat she left behind. Strict and serious in command the feline woman only shows her species well known lazy side when off duty, lounging around her cabin and taking a great deal of pleasure in the luxuries a private sector ship can provide. She’d be quite happy to find a nice man either in her home port or on her ship and always seems to have a lead on a potential adventure or treasure, something she’d love to use as bait to real you in; for herself and her crew, a good captain knows when to share the prize with her girls.
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>>93222894
The OC sickness has truly taken hold of you.
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>>93222615
Damn you.
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>>93222897
Fortunately one of the other jumps I hope to get done soon™ is only going to have one companion option that isn't just a build/import.
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>>93219185
Shard would fucking die.
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The best plan for OoCS is to rip off Interspecies Reviewers and go around fucking and reviewing alien species.
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>>93222926
Still surprised we got a serviceable one from blackshadow of all people over on SB.
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>>93222926
Like holy shit 8's continuity alone would break my brain.

Fuck that, fuck jumpmaking, I'll plunder all the tech and breed all the unthinkable interdimensional horrors I want the old fashioned way. Bless RTD for giving me a nice, jobby Sutekh I can have my horrible meat universe daughteru extract the biodata from to crack Osiran technology, and bless Chibnall for letting me start before Time Lord civilisation became a threat. That's really all you need to start clambering up the hierarchy of cosmic power anyway as long as you have technology as sophisticated as a DC, Blazblue or First Age scientist.

>>93222956
>serviceable
>blackshadow
Doubt. Lemme guess, 400 CP to be an Intercreational?
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>>93222953
You're not exactly wrong but be prepared for the women to get attached.
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>>93222956
>we got a serviceable one from blackshadow
Lol. Lmao. No.

>>93222960
It has a perk for infinitely scaling intelligence that puts you even above shit like omniscient gods.
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>>93222300
What does this chart signify?
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>>93222975
Looks like how much Touma gets hurt
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>>93222964
Ah yes
"serviceable"
From the setting that brought you Sutekh, the god of gods who can't tell a british slag apart from a cosmic being of unthinkable power
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>>93222960
>>93222964
>>93222978
The quality the show deserves
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>>93222989
You know what? After the double KO of Chibnall and RTD, you're not wrong at this point.
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>>93222989
Cringe. Just because it's been run into the ground by cucks doesn't mean it didn't used to be good. It's no different than Rings of Power and LotR.
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>>93222989
I miss Eleven...
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>>93223014
I maintain 12 was an incredible Doctor in a vacuum, the problem was he was an incredible Doctor trapped in an absolutely shite season.

And yes, turning the Master into the Doctor's literal girlfriend is shite from a writing standpoint even if it is hot and so was the gilf scottish woman playing her.
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>>93222960
I wish for nothing more than to see your massive autistic rage builds/rants ala supernatural but for Doctor Who. I legitimately miss the days when I could hop in the thread after a new episode of supernatural had dropped and watch you loosing your shit. Its the whole reason I started checking this thread regularly I had no fucking clue what jump chain was at the time but that shit was hilarious.
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>>93222893
>Any reasonably fit person can beat Goku if they can build that ki wave jammer thing Android 21 built in FighterZ
If every person in this thread jumped Goku who had his ki taken away he would beat the shit out of all of us harder than Batman beats Gotham thugs.
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>>93223028
I liked Nine. Whenever I think of the Doctor I think of that guy.
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>>93222910
What jump?
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>>93223049
I've probably said it before, as it's an old WIP that I started before any jump I've actually put out, bit I'm not putting my name to it until I've got a jumpable WIP to post.
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>>93222964
If you're actually omniscient you can't get smarter or more knowledgeable by definition.

If you did then by definition you weren't omniscient before.
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>>93223057
Fair enough. Good luck with it friend.
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Other than Log Horizon and Overlord, what are some setting where you can pick up a full set of encahnted items, which you can grant a variety of abilities?
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>>93222893
>Any reasonably fit person can beat Goku if they can build that ki wave jammer thing Android 21 built in FighterZ
It brings everyone's ki down, not get rid of it entirely, there wouldn't be a story if no one had ki anymore
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>>93223070
Let me amend that statement: Yamcha. Yamcha could take him.

...maybe.
With a bat.

>>93223045
In hindsight I think we were all too harsh judging 9's actor for finding the BBC difficult to work with because...holy shit, he was lucky to get out when he did.

>>93223034
Wait and hope, I suppose. Thus far the reward of easy access to Time Lord/Osiran stuff as well as Bad Wolfcoin going so far to the moon that it might technically be more powerful than whatever passes as Doctor Who's GOD (probably not the White Guardian. The showrunners have probably forgotten about him) has outweighed my overall disappointment with a season that includes racist space white people who can't pee without space Tiktok assistance as well as the they/them drag queen spawn of the Toymaker, but I'm 90% sure RTD is planning to have the Beast (forma de Mrs. Flood) return next season.

And that'll be really something, because before the current theme of "it's straight up magic the Doctor can't just technobabble an explanation for" the Beast was the main show mystical thing that had the Doctor stumped.
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>>93223105
yo shard, i don't play destiny, is any of that leaked stuff people talked about something that will incite an update to the darkness jump or no?
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>>93223105
I know it was a different time and that I may never experience such joy again, but I do miss it.
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>>93221344
Baldur's Gate 3 has safe horney where the only porn is so softcore it would be allowed in a deadpool movie.
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>>93222113
>Drawback so that every Level 5 has their own clone plot popping off
>Drawback for autistically denying that magic/science (whichever you're not) exists/is legitimate
>Drawback that makes one if not all of your waifus as incessant as Kuroko
>Perk to survive what should be dangerous bullshit as long as its romcom/slapstick abuse from waifus
>A herd of dumb expendable background simps like Misaki has
>That artifact that turns people Christian
>A crazy nun faction filled with all the things totally normal nuns are known for, from the batshit insane but modestly dressed busty head sister, to the also batshit zealous little sisters in normal nun clothes like mini-dresses and bondage gear
No really, what is up with the nuns around here?

>>93222163
Based.
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>>93221151
>bimbofied math equation
That would be a real mind screw to become with the Altered Form drawback.
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>>93223127
It's just an indian scientist lady dunking in Vex while hopped up on the equivalent of Prismatic Symmetry so unironically yeah, it's all in.

...that said, would anyone mind if I replaced Clarity Control with an Echo instead? I've been thinking about what people said about it overlapping with Shaped Finality and figured that might be decent compromise. Just want to wait a little longer to get more on what an Echo can actually do other than reality warp an entire fucking planet with the Traveller's memories
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>>93223142
>Sogiita Gunha clone network.
Anon no. This is how spiral energy is made.
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>>93223127
Not shard and haven't played destiny in years but iirc the whole "Maya taking control of the Vex" thing is just a shittier Irresolvable | Irrecoverable Presence
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>>93221200
>>93221519
Also yeah holy shit most people here do NOT want to look at the canon Anti-Life girl.

>>93223165
Way shitter, I mean going by the cutscene leak she just keels over from a mere three-man Guardian team in which the third man didn't even do anything

Absolutely pathetic.
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My first dive into sidecharacter backstory for Exalted Vs and also Hunter pho interlude. Because why the fuck not.

Can I be an attention seeking whore for five minutes and ask if people are actually reading this and if so, what part of this you think is funniest or something?
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>>93223158
So something that would improve the entire world without any real downside.
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>>93223221
Anon, the Spiral Nemesis?
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>>93223208
>Opens it
>59 pages
Yeah, gonna take a while to read all that but I liked the spirits of creation part. Especially the best primordial doing this.

>HEY SHADOW THATS REAL NEAT. HOLD MY BEER, I'LL MAKE ONE TOO
I fucking love this Boar.
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>>93222366
All the "easy" ways to die permanently are themselves incredibly easy to avoid in Fallen London.

>Jack-of Smiles is a possessed knife, just don't pick up random fucking blood-flecked metal knives in the city.
>It's shockingly easy to not fuck around in with the Fingerkings in Parabola, by just not trying to get clever with mirrors and not eating Prisoner's Honey.
>The Black Ribbon Society are an invitation-only group, just don't join the club for people that get off on perma-murdering each other.
>You can't actually spend an appreciable amount of time on the Unterzee where death's more permanent, since that's a stipulation baked in by the author to reconcile the Fallen London & Sunless Sea jumps.
>You can't fuck off to the Iron Republic or Hell either unless you're deliberately trying to fail your chain, since "stay in London" is one of the fundamental rules of the jump.

Jumpers that aren't familiar with Fallen London are probably safer than those that are, realistically, cause they don't know to go looking for all the esoteric things that might kill them for good. And if you are familiar, just don't deliberately try to bite off more than you can chew and you'll be fine.
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1.0. release of Udraiken Primer. Can be placed on the drive.
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What are some fun sapient races to release into Star Wars?
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>>93223276
We should still get a new Fallen London and Sunless Sea jump, both because ours are old and because the restriction is dumb.
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>>93223236
Fake news spread by people without true will and determination of their own.
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>>93223288
Gohans, just to watch them JOB to Gungans and get sold into SLAVERY by fat old Hutts.
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>>93222392
Licentiates are among the few people whose trade is divvying out permanent death in the Neath. I played one for about a year and saw pretty much all the content it had, your job is to go the extra mile to ensure your assassinations stick. You're also, if you managed to become a Licentiate in the first place, one of the most lethal people in the Fifth City.
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>>93223288
Humans (forma de psychic) from Saga of Exiles. See which is superior, the force or operants (it's operants)
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>>93223291
Do you really want to give Gohan the Force?
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>>93223062
It scales to the smartest/most knowledgeable person in setting. As you can imagine, it has a million fiat provisos like many SB perks.
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>“Dodge charms!”
Duck Fate?

>“What even are you?”
>”I am the hero this city deserves!”

>He wasn’t sure he actually had a choice in the matter. If things went downhill, he’d probably die, but hey, that was every fight he got into.
At least these ones are friendly.

>Man. Every time I think I know how the world works, someone pulls the rug out from under me.
World of Darkness.jpg

>Some guy in a horse mask walked into a nightclub full of leeches and killed a few dozen of them before going down.
Makes sense, newbie Solars aren’t unstoppable.

>what part of this you think is funniest or something?
Personally, what I’m waiting for is the moment the Hunters fully realize how stealthy Solars are.
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>>93223298
Gohan would just use the Force to do scholar nerd things and retreat the world so hard, he jobs to his own Force powers by transcending physical existence while alive and merging with the Force manually. The ultimate conclusion of escaping all conflict.
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>>93223279
I feel like some of these Perks describe what they're based on without describing what they actually give you. Sometimes it's easy enough to interpret, but things like Unearthly Lore don't really tell you what you're getting other than people looking at you funny.
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>>93223303
I mean, if a Solar is stealthy enough wouldn't the Hunter never realise? They'd just think all the powerful glowing people just disappeared one day.
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>>93223288
Do you want races who would break things or just ones that would be interesting to see interact with SW without being game changing?
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>>93223303
>Makes sense, newbie Solars aren’t unstoppable.
Must have been very new. And a lot of leeches because vampire aren't exactly known for being the strongest unless there old.
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What are some low-power mecha jumps?
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>>93223307
Unearthly Lore is basically you being a walking SAN check as a person due to the information you have. The Noirmat have information pertaining to Viralborgia or Viralborgia-related elements that can simply be too much for the average mind, so people break or snap in some way shape or form. And the last few lines relate to the idea that information about Viralborgia has a tendency to stick in the mind and convey horrible visions, which can lead to further insanity as shown in the very first chapter of the comic.
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>>93223312
The joke is that Solars Are Not Subtle.

>>93223316
These are ExWoD Solars, if there are some experienced vampires around they could take a new Solar down, though it’d hurt.
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>>93223317
Battletech. I don't think Mecha gets much lower than that. Some iterations of Gundam keep things a bit more grounded as well but not all of them. Votoms, though I don't know if we have a jump for that.
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>>93223317
Armoured Core. Technically.

Also Knights of Sidonia.
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>>93223276
You're missing the fact that Jack-of-Smiles regularly chops people to shreds beyond resurrection and nobody gives a shit; go poking around in the Master's affairs and Poor Edward buries you alive; the sunlight trade is booming and any sufficiently savvy or rich enemy can get a box and fling it at you; the mere fact that there are PEOPLE EATING MONSTERS EVERYWHERE, from fungus-columns to rogue goat-demons the Eater-of-Chains to the Snuffers to the fucks in the Shuttered Palace who will lock you and have bees feed in your brain for kicks; the fact that this city exploded three times already in quick succession, raining permadeath galore; the arsenic rain currently drowning the city, apparently; the streets that regularly shift for kicks and expose you to the most dangerous stuff in the place even if you were just going to a pub or something; Revs' terrorist attacks being done with increasingly lethal Red Science munitions including fucking Hillmovers and Unlawful Devices; sorrow-spiders and Spider-Councils running amok; the fucking Vake running around killing whoever it wants;
Fallen London is a city full of danger to the core and there's no avoiding that: it's an insanely fucking dangerous place
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>>93223327
Does Mining the Holy Fount let you mine Fluxium in future jumps?
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>>93223288
Inklings. What's the worst that could happen?
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>>93223348
Ye.
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>>93223279
What does The Oneirogean Way actually do? It sounds like it makes you well liked by people like Avalanche or forces like the Lifestream in FF7 but it also sounds vaguely metaphysical and somehow affecting all of existence
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>>93223313
I was more for interesting interactions. Such as making Inklings and Octolings a new space force.
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>>93223357
Also nice
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>>93223296
The thing is, anon, Licenciates are pretty much following the will of the Prescript here. They just get the names from their little list and give absolutely no fucks about who that person is: you can just see some random guy in a party and realize it's a guy in your list, then go and kill them no fucks given. They're an everpresent danger because at any moment you could show up as one of those little names in gant and then the guy just sneaks up behind you and tears off your head with their bare hands.
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>>93223276
>>93223296
Just had a weird moment of clarity. I still have the screencap I took of Shard's explanation of Fallen London that I asked him for 4 years ago, that got me into actually playing the game.

And yet, I've been playing the fucking game for so long that I literally finished all the end-game content and just unsubscribed from the "new monthly stories" subscription a few days ago cause all the ones that've come out in the last 8 months have been stale, uninteresting, and clear attempts to try and claw out some relevancy in the face of not having a single writer on their team that's of Alexis Kennedy's caliber. Done all the endings for Sunless Sea, and all the ones for Sunless Skies. Weird to realize that the Fallen Londonverse doesn't have much of anything foreign to me anymore.
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>>93223363
Makes it so positive entities of all forms and stripes (physical, metaphysical, animate, inanimate, etc) are more inclined towards harmony, benevolence and prosperity around you and will work towards actions that positively impact and benefit everyone around them.
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>>93223288
I think a lot of the Mass Effect races would like the Star Wars galaxy.

The Quarians in particular would either prosper or get fucked worse than the Twi'leks. Star Wars has enough megastructures and unclaimed worlds with magical universal habitability that the Quarians should be able to easily find someplace to rebuild their civilization. However it's also very likely they could encounter the Hutts, Zygerrians, Confederacy, etc. and just end up as another minor enslaved species. Regardless, I bet the Quarians would absolutely love Star Wars droids and their near-inability to rebel.

https://www.deviantart.com/upshdragoon/art/Comm-Jedi-Master-Zaree-631915305
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>>93223265
The last ten pages are almost pure images, so I'm not quite sure those count.

>I fucking love this boar
I have endeavoured to make Isidoros as based as humanly possible.

>>93223303
>Duck Fate?
No. Dodge charms.
>https://keychain.patternspider.net/comics/koc0009.png

>World of Darkness.jpg
Technically it's a reference to Hunters being able to see through the masquerade, but you'd have to look him up on one of the white wolf wikis to get why it's really funny.

>Stealthy
>>93223312
Jonathan will get a better idea of what Solars can do in a week or two once his son is one, but honestly I'm not planning on writing them as stealthy at all. Too busy being righteousy furious to give a shit about the masquerade.

I would post the image I have of hotline miami solar but we're at image limit unfortunately.
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>>93223378
I dunno, I thought The Sunken River, The Laws of the Game and A Dream of a Thousand Tails were been really damn good. I thought Laws was just offbrand Cricket, Anyone? But it ended up really fun. They sure picked an obscure theme to go with but they managed to make "in the 1800s nobody had came up with a cohesive ruleset for football yet" work fine.
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>>93220990
Realistically, it's an absolute death sentence. Exaltedfags will lie to you and themselves and say they can handle it because they treat Exalted in exactly the same way the treat Jumpchain, they take for granted they will overcome every obstacle and survive objectively long odds because they're the main character and author of their chain.
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>>93223423
And yet, you don't shit on Narutofags for doing the exact same thing assuming they will be Madara 2.0.
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>>93223405
>Jonathan will get a better idea of what Solars can do in a week or two once his son is one
That’s going to be an awkward conversation.

>but honestly I'm not planning on writing them as stealthy at all.
>>93223331
>The joke is that Solars Are Not Subtle.



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