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>Anons are losing against guts
Laugh at entrocucks!
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>>93263257
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>>93263276
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>>93263285
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Let it go.
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>>93263309
Yes, it is time for magi case to die.
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Serious question, from a lore perspective who would win the Sons from Entropist or the Magi from Magi Case?
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>>93263342
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>>93263346
Entropist has very clear powers while magi case is super vague. That means magi case wins since anyone can headcanon whatever they want.
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>>93263346
Answering that question would require me to actually read an Italics cyoa, which I refuse to do
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>>93263356
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>>93263346
Sons, except perhaps some of the more bullshit Auctors.
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>>93263371
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Who would win? One of Father Entropy's Sons, or the Chosen of GOD from that one Apotheosis CYOA where you choose several angel guardians and perks for yourself?
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>>93263379
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>>93263392
Goku
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>>93263346
it's unfair to compare the two. Magi Case is about having a wizard day job. Entropist is about being a death god. Sons would be considered absurdly overpowered in any other universe, it's just that the threats they face are also absurdly powerful
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>>93263398
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>>93263309
lord tok will never die!
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>>93263406
>loses to guts
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>>93263413
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>>93263430
I will not!

>>93263286
This is a good one, pic realted
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>>93263439
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>>93263454
he WILL NEVER see it. You LOST
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>>93263257
V2.2 List of Blessings

To help me with this list, I plead any Unblessed builds that update to link to their previous one and link to my list as well. New builds, returning builds, or updated builds that already have a blessing, please also link to my list.

>Total:
Multiplayer: Creeping Conquest, Arcana, Empyrean Prince, Hoarded Technique, Man of the Purple Rose, Kingmaker, Song of the King, Grand Harbinger, Protocol FULCRUM, Tortured Armaments, Endbringer, Dismantle Ego, Dark Justice Nightmare Strike, Pale Rider, Dark Sovereign, Magnificent Titan, Scattered Spirit, Storm Knight, Apex Hunter, Wyrm Hunter, Repeated Armament, Dread Legate, Black Fire Imbue, Draco Warlock, Leviathan Pursuit, Sunward Traveller, Master of Monsters, Red Mist, Remnant Chronicler, Father's Paladin, Exquisite Puppeteer, Spirit Force, Patriarch Dragon, Entropic Generator, Calm of Thanatos, Transcendence Through Death and Destruction, Colossal Strikes, Pillar and Foundation, Ascended Ensemble, Lord of Winds, Center of Knowledge, Grand Master

Singleplayer: Elder Son, Ungraspable, Overlapped Technique, Unending, Vampire Emperor, Spark of Light, Red Ravager, Chimeric Manipulator, Lingering Magic, Forced Destiny, Stoic Fighter, Peace, Judgement Storm, Tour of Sin, Evolving Hunter, Astral Star, It Will be Spoken, Destined Decree, The Messiah

41 multiplayer; 19 singleplayer; 60 total

>Returning:
Multiplayer: Creeping Conquest, Arcana, Empyrean Prince, Hoarded Technique, Grand Harbinger, Protocol FULCRUM, Tortured Armaments, Dark Sovereign, Apex Hunter, Remnant Chronicler, Father's Paladin, Exquisite Puppeteer, Patriarch Dragon

Singleplayer: Elder Son, Unending, Overlapped Technique, Vampire Emperor, Spark of Light, Chimeric Manipulator

13 multiplayer; 6 singleplayer; 19 total
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>>93263475
>New:
Multiplayer: Man of the Purple Rose, Kingmaker, Song of the King, Endbringer, Dismantle Ego, Dark Justice Nightmare Strike, Pale Rider, Magnificent Titan, Scattered Spirit, Storm Knight, Wyrm Hunter, Repeated Armament, Dread Legate, Black Fire Imbue, Draco Warlock, Leviathan Pursuit, Sunward Traveller, Master of Monsters, Red Mist, Spirit Force, Entropic Generator, Calm of Thanatos, Transcendence Through Death and Destruction, Colossal Strikes, Pillar and Foundation, Ascended Ensemble, Lord of Winds, Center of Knowledge, Grand Master

Singleplayer: Ungraspable, Red Ravager, Lingering Magic, Forced Destiny, Stoic Fighter, Peace, Judgement Storm, Tour of Sin, Evolving Hunter, Astral Star, It Will be Spoken, Destined Decree, The Messiah

29 multiplayer; 13 singleplayer; 42 total

>Links:
Creeping Conquest (MP)
>>91632625
Arcana (MP)
>>91372017
Empyrean Prince (MP)
>>91928880
Elder Son (SP)
>>91372696
Hoarded Technique (MP)
>>91372707
Man of the Purple Rose (NEW-MP)
>>91379183
Ungraspable (NEW-SP)
>>91497451
Overlapped Technique (SP)
>>91488625
Kingmaker (NEW-MP)
>>91448003
Song of the King (NEW-MP)
>>91398249
Grand Harbinger (MP)
>>91378418
Protocol FULCRUM (MP)
>>91398820
Tortured Armaments (MP)
>>93259985
Unending (SP)
>>91383902
Endbringer (NEW-MP)
>>91384981
Vampire Emperor (SP)
>>91384859
Dismantle Ego (NEW-MP)
>>91407005
Spark of Light (SP)
>>91386739
Dark Justice Nightmare Strike (NEW-MP)
>>91387023
Pale Rider (NEW-MP)
>>91387078
Dark Sovereign (MP)
>>91911586
Magnificent Titan (NEW-MP)
>>91396406
Scattered Spirit (NEW-MP)
>>91396559
Red Ravager (NEW-SP)
>>91397475
Storm Knight (NEW-MP)
>>91407357
Apex Hunter (MP)
>>91410429
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>>93263487
Chimeric Manipulator (SP)
>>91414369
Lingering Magic (NEW-SP)
>>91606020
Wyrm Hunter (NEW-MP)
>>91419564
Repeated Armament (NEW-MP)
>>91910008
Dread Legate (NEW-MP)
>>91419940
Black Fire Imbue (NEW-MP)
>>91479935
Forced Destiny (NEW-SP)
>>91445528
Draco Warlock (NEW-MP)
>>91445528
Leviathan Pursuit (NEW-MP)
>>91445544
Stoic Fighter (NEW-SP)
>>91485440
Sunward Traveller (NEW-MP)
>>91520881
Master of Monsters (NEW-MP)
>>91445557
Red Mist (NEW-MP)
>>91473111
Remnant Chronicler (MP)
>>91571135
Peace (NEW-SP)
>>91445569
Judgement Storm (NEW-SP)
>>91447452
Remnant Chronicler (MP)
>>91571135
Father's Paladin (MP)
>>91496100
Exquisite Puppeteer (MP)
>>91558595
Spirit Force (NEW-MP)
>>91546173
Tour of Sin (NEW-SP)
>>91548860
Patriarch Dragon (MP)
>>91558432
Entropic Generator (NEW-MP)
>>91558598
Calm of Thanatos (NEW-MP)
>>91612972
Transcendence Through Death and Destruction (NEW-MP)
>>91905815
Evolving Hunter (NEW-SP)
>>91515331
Colossal Strikes (NEW-MP)
>>91520740
Pillar and Foundation (NEW-MP)
>>91554276
Ascended Ensemble (NEW-MP)
>>91628765
Lord of Winds (NEW-MP)
>>91564330
Center of Knowledge (NEW-MP)
>>91603059
Astral Star (NEW-SP)
>>91642636
It Will be Spoken (NEW-SP)
>>91642646
Destined Decree (NEW-SP)
>>91642667
Grand Master (NEW-MP)
>>91644141
The Messiah (NEW-SP)
>>93010666

>Unblessed:
>>91394813
>>91396672
>>91451477
>>91474326
>>91508517
>>91566215
>>91626868
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>>93263475
to hell with your multiplayershit
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AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>93263379
Currently torn between taking an oath that I like or Solieac for the extra perk.
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R8 this CYOA
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>>93263568
Reddix out of reddix
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>>93263568
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>>93263398
how strong are gifts in the Multiverse? I feel like they are used as punching bags most of the times. Any mid tier or higher threats, like the Guardian monster, are always described as stronger than Gifts
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>>93261530
I would love to stream my army down to a core theme of about 14 points but you get way more value getting extra gifts so I know what you're saying
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>>93263602
The Gifts are gifts. If you want to be strong, you need to be strong yourself.
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>>93263543
Soleac's oath to learn languages is one of the easiest
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>>93263602
They are jobbers. Not in the meme sense but in the actual definition sense. Entropist anon seems to used them to hype up threats in the cyoa as strong by comparing them to gifts.
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>>93263602
They are hands down your strongest and can also function as admins and generals
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>>93263602
Guardian monster are stronger than a gift at the start. Falista starts being country level, later on can reach planet buster and later on dimension level. There is no "gift level" except at their start, because they will also grow in power. Its like stating a "son lvl" we can say elder son or early son, the middle can be a lot of things.

In general, in their niches they are probably better than any son not focused on it if they at the same range of power
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>>93263610
I don't want to fight unless I have to. I much prefer running my death cult from the shadow

>>93263650
do gifts really grow stronger? I am sad even some no name Paladins are stronger as strong as my strongest Gifts. My originally plan is to invade Hells through Hellish link but I am not so sure my Gifts can frat a Demon Lord
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>>93263692
>no name Paladins
You're a no name Son, retard. They have been risking their lives fighting evil before you were even born. Be more respectful.
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>>93263692
Powerfags really make the biggest whiners if they are not automatically the strongest.
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>>93263707
Man, I bet their souls are worth so much...
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>>93263707
I do not respect the rainbow brigade
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>>93263718
It's true, and their obnoxious attitude is what drives off most authors over time.
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>>93263692
Every gift have clear paths to get stronger.
Sangra. Physical empowerment. Vampire Skills. Sanguine Evolution. Absorbing skills, experiences and abilities of vampires
Kirilia. Vampire Skills. Sanguine Evolution. Drinking Blood from strong beings. (physical empowerment if you have divine promotion, highly recommended)
Falista. Physical empowerment. Her Dragon variant's natural growth
Ebon. Power word mastery. Physical Empowerment. Black Dragon natural's growth
Alta. Physical empowerment
Elaine. Physical empowerment. Lightning magic
Ectos. Depens on the power you pick for her, elemental magic, soul magic, power word etc... she will grow stronger but the best part is she will learn 8 magic systems and be the head of the research team, which means her knowledge will grow.
Drace. Same as Ectos but more magic systems and more destruction focused. Also will gather especial demons
Koryuu. Power word mastery. Physical empowerment. Void cutter mastery. Her skill stealing to make her counter to almost anything
Nida. Void cutter. 3 times of elemental magic. Infinite number of Cursed spirits that not only she can use mid combat but also take advantage of the random skills of the monster and use them herself.
Astra gets stronger seeing the dreamlands.
Ester gets 9 magic systems. Gets more mana and can get better at her magic.

Bloom is the one we dont have a clear path to grow without her "perfect form. Probably can just smack in her a physical empowerment because her coccoon form is physically focused with spiritual attacks and all. She is inmortal anyway and in case someone is strong enough to damage the coccoon it gets nuked.

The Paladin is still weaker then our starting out Alta and would also lose to starting out Ester when said Paladin has like 1000 years of training. They are fine with Moloch, the strongest Demon god probably kills you all though, but thats like going to the multiverse and find Soleac. The chances of finding a demon as strong as us is slim
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>>93263792
>t. autist
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>>93263802
yes
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>>93263792
>>93263809
Based autist
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I said my build was finished but you have convinced me to take One Man Army and "cut the fat" down to a core theme
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>>93263832
Run away! Minmaxerfag will whine that you are doing a theme instead of minmaxxing!
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>>93263832
Post and I'll trim your build for you.
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>>93263841
I will when it's done. I already got it figured out in my head
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>>93263487
I was one of the first ten sons, junior. Any particular reason you didn't start with us?
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>>93263257
I assume "Blast" refers to the same thing?
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>>93263893
I think its a mistake and he meant emit
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>>93263893
Nah, it makes 0 sense for her to have Blast because she has nothing in the physical department. >>93263920 is right.
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>>93263792
I thought EntropistAnon said something along the line of demonic magic has no effect on Entropy based entities and they have to resort to their Tempered Heroes to stop Sons.
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The amount of scrutiny Entropist gets put under is hilarious. Imagine applying that level to something like Battlemage or Fulcrum. It's just wild.
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>>93263985
The taller the tree, the stronger the wind.
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I LIKE GIL KINO
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>>93263977
basically its the equivalent of sons keeping demiurgues slaves to do against their counters. In very rare ocassion a demon lord could have a tempered hero hired to stop sons
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>>93263985
It has been done with other cyoas, newfag
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>>93263985
Nah. Just look at Magicase or Isekai Hunter. We are all minmaxing scrutinizers no matter what anyone says
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>be True Son
>genociding some unknown world on the fringes of creation
>really, just harvesting souls for a future campaign that actually matters and indulging in some easy bloodsport on the side
>end up in an obscure forest village
>decide to take it easy and kill them one by one instead of using Armageddon magic
>cut down around thirty noname peasants and devour their souls
>hear someone shout, turn and look
>it's another village champion, some burly oaf with a stick
>he challenges me, so I make a leisurely step and cut him down
>against the odds, he manages to dodge a half-second too soon
>now he's missing an arm and bleeding, but still holding the stick
>laugh and cut him again
>he tries to dodge but there goes a knee, and the leg with it
>that's got to hurt, but this is getting a little boring
>the fool collapses on his back, spitting up blood
>decide to be indulgent about it, put boot on his chest and go to stab him in the heart
>get that lovely *snik* sound that always brings a smile to my face
>look down at the mortal's dying moments
>funny, they always get the same look of despair in their eyes
>except, there's something...
>feel a mountain-shattering blow to the side of my head
>stumble off, dizzy, and take a moment to reorient myself
>he's gotten back up
>his eyes are full of rabid hatred, he's got the stick back in his hands, both of them, and his wounds are sealing shut in an instant
>hmm
>swing a void cutter at him, which he somehow parries, then counters with a blow to the stomach faster than I could see
>that should be impossible
>nauseous for the first time in centuries
>stagger back and look at him again
>the sheer killing intent is unspeakable
>this can only mean one thing
>ohshit.morgue
>teleport away, get Gifts and planeswalk to neighbouring dimension
>maybe I'll come back in a few millennia
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>>93264111
the turning into a tempered hero is a gradual thing. Its not instant.
Anyway, why dont just use minions that don't have an disadvantage? or if its a new tempered hero you can just brute force your way. Or send ester or astra or bloom or your earth giant Eduardo Rock
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>>93264111
That's not how a Tempered Hero is formed. The word "Tempered" comes before "Hero". You need to experience pain, loss, life and death, etc. hundreds of times over while having the willpower to still go on before you can become a Tempered Hero. The odds of anyone becoming a Tempered Hero are worse than drawing lots with the entire human population.
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>>93264159
>>93264163
Don't piss on his cool story.
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>>93264170
Should've made it lore accurate.
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>>93264170
I wouldn't call this pissing. It's constructive criticism with no hostility.
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>>93264111
>manual killing
This is why I use Heralds and religion. It's far safer and more efficient to convince mortals to give up their souls
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>>93263275
>Losing against guts because of type advantage
>Not becoming Tempered and getting neutral
Everyone can do it.
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>>93264163
>pain, loss, life and death, etc. hundreds of times over
What if, hear me out, you experience all that while in a simulation, hypnotized to believe its completely real? All the gains without any real loss or risk!
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>>93264296
That's just torture with extra steps. If just torture can make Tempered Heroes, then they would be mass produced already and not rare as fuck.
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>>93264296
That's gay.
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>>93264296
1. You would still need the willpower to keep on
2. Thats false and no true strife
3. The build made for that with a blessing to help it still have less possibilities then any human in our earth. thats like a line of 8B humans. Even soleac, who fights every side for his brothers and is the first son didnt get it
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>>93264111
Imagine having to fight a Shonen Hero Protagonist
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>>93264406
Tempered Heroes are the true chads of this setting
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>>93263368
holy based
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>>93263475
Who is the best Demiurge enslaver?
>what's the combination of powers required to enslave a Demiurge? I'm guessing the process involves dragging them into a mortal form (Soul Drain can accomplish this, but Harpoon is probably better), Pain to force them into a more mortal mindset, then Sealing Chain to lock away some aspects of their now-easier-to-influence minds.
>You basically mentioned the main ones. Spirit Chains is the big one. Soul Drain also helps a lot. It's a slow and complex process, since you need to put it at the verge of degradation. It's like bringing in a whale to process. It takes, time, but you cannot waste a single second when working on it.
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>>93264506
So does Pain do nothing despite the description literally saying otherwise?
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>>93264515
Entropistanon said "You basically mentioned the main ones," which includes Pain.
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>>93264506
Useful info for this in the lore notes:
>They are alien in thought: they may speak human tongues but hold no true understanding of certain words. They may make supreme, impossibly genius plans, only to be outmatched by a casual and improvised strategy, being blind to a concept or a timespan, like the present. They come in a lot of varieties but are never benevolent. Since Demiurges are extremely powerful, and nearly impossible to defeat, most strategies try to seal or to draw them elsewhere so they may cause less harm. However, Sons are the exception to this. Sons through a variety of means can drag Demiurges down to the physical world, forcing a solid body on them, a process that is extremely traumatizing to them and that weakens them severely. Sons can do this in any way if they can establish a link with the soul of the demiurge, which is absurdly easy as a Demiurge actively absorbing souls and magic off a realm is accessible everywhere, and all Sons can do it at least through Soul Drain (a skill every single Son has access to). The tug of war to draw them into reality depends on the individual power of the Son and the Demiurge, though usually heavily in favor of the Son. Sons then can kill the Demiurge and absorb its soul, or enslave it if they have the power or means to do so (this is VERY difficult, costly, and quite literally on Sons can pull it off, and even then, it requires very capable and experienced Sons). Demiurges have a variety of abilities, so it’s not always an easy fight, and they may escape the hunt attempt, though usually weakened. It’s not uncommon for Sons to track, pursue and eventually kill a powerful Demiurge over several encounters.
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>>93264515
>does pain do nothing
>It's like bringing in a whale to process. It takes, time, but you cannot waste a single second when working on it.
You're gradually convincing a godling that it is not immortal, but, in fact, VERY mortal. Normally you'd be limited to negative reinforcement, denying it souls for trying to survice. Pain lets you bring positive punishment into the equation, and teach it that existence is suffering, and its newfound mortality is the way out.
If it runs on emotions and souls, steal its food and make it stop believing in itself, and it will shrivel up and die.
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>>93263692
>do gifts really grow stronger?
did you even read the gifts introduction before asking this question?
>>93263792
bloom will probably just reflect your and your other gift growth.
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>>93264506
On top of the already mentioned stuff, powers that alter souls like Soul Magic and control the mind like Dream powers should help as well. Things like Power Word, Winds of Death, Entropic Imbue, and Aura of Dread should help as well.
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>>93264506
>>93264577
>>93264599
i really wonder how long this hunts for demiurges and other outer horrors actual last, it it a matter of weeks? months? a couple of years?
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>>93263832
>>93263835
>>93263841
Alright it's Done. RED RAVAGER MP BUILD

I'm gonna save all the fluff and other stuff for an eventual pastebin, but basically:

-Multiplayer
-Vampire Army core theme with One Man Army.
-I'm using Dual Form(s) to take full advantage of my mutation pools. Each form will have its own separate mutation pool. All the forms more or less look the same so you won't know what your up against
-Added the Tahneem for its Fleshwarping abilities and large pool of abilites that I don't want that can be sacrificed for mutations. Keeping telepathy, Regen, and Tenacles and dumping everything else. This also let's me go full Akira if I have to by going full octopus instead of the hybrid shape
-took the plauge ability. This is mostly to keep up with the lore of that really neat spinoff Cyoa since the Zombie Plauge was a big part of that. That was a really cool thing that you made and like I said before I like how you tributed my character. Instead of being an accident I'll be the originator
-Reaping India so hard that even Kali and Shiva will blush

Red Ravager: Your physical abilities are overall boosted, and you gain powerful regeneration, completely regenerating from harm over the course of seconds, using blood to fuel this (very expensive bloodwise, but more efficient than a Bloodguard’s). You gain Raging Momentum. You can Fleshwarp much more easily, letting you use it for combat purposes, and with training, allowing you to switch in between attacks, to greatly increase your battle versatility. You can hold 6 (additional) mutations, 3 (additional) instant, and your mutations are more efficient. Blood Magic precision is increased, and the ability is boosted when used for combat. You can hold infinite blood. Your Elder Vampires, Pale Butlers and Bloodguards are stronger.
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>>93264613
Oaths: Merciless, He Spoke to you that day

>Drawbacks
Pleasure Target, Suicide, Hunted, Final Rapture, Chosen Paladin, Incompatible Target (Spirits, Animals) True Son, Diminished, Homogeneous Existence, One Man Army, One Way (Reaping), Disloyalty

Points: 10 starting + 5 multplayer
+5, +12, +15 = 47

Capacity: +50 + 5 multiplayer
+4, +4, +10, +2, +2 = 77
+10 for minions
GP: 1+2 (minions) +2
Perks: 3+1+1+1
>Perks
Talented, Extra Lives, Commander, Sleepless, Harem, Beauty

Minion Form Perks (Vampire)- Novelty

>Minions (10)
Vampire -1, Elder Vampire -3, Blood Gaurd -1, Pale Butler-1, Reflected Maiden-2, Tahneem-2
>Starting: All

>Gifts
Sangra, Kirilia, Bloom, Alta, Koryuu
>Starting Gift
Sangra
>Free Powers
Physical Empowerment, Reap (All), Soul Drain (lif/inv)

>Powers (total capacity 78, 89 with free powers)
Soul Drain (Emp)-1, Blood Magic (All) -6, Necromancy (All) -6, Soul magic (Alt/Sea) -3, Consume Soul (All) -6, Phylactery (All) -4, Alligned Magnificence -2, Dual Form +2 + 5 extra transformation changes (Pale Butler/Elder Vampire/Bloodguard/Tahneem) - 9, Sanguine Evolution -7, Oblivion Strike -2, Pain -1, Spirit Armor (Auto) -2, Entropic Imbue (anti) -3, Dread Aura (PWR) -3, Dark Smite (All) -3, Dark Angel -2, Fleshwarp (All) -4, Sex Magic -2, True Resurrection -2, Ascension (All) -5, WALK BLESSED -5

Starting Abilities: 47 points
Reap-4, Bloodmagic-6, Phylactery-4, Fleshwarp-4, Sanguine Evolution-7, Dual Form -9, Walk Blessed-5, Physical Empowerment, Alligned Magnificence-2, Spirit Armor-1
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>>93264613
>save all the fluff and other stuff for an eventual pastebin
COMPLETE THE PASTEBIN BEFORE POSTING, YOU DUMBASS.
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>>93264613
>slop
Get out and stay out.
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>>93264622
Cowardice.
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>>93264622
Nah. I'm done with my autism for tonight.
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>>93264613
Here, a better crop.
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>>93264628
Were back
>>93264646
That is much better. Thanks
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>>93263568
>bunch of random stuff i like, go! the cyoa
a little more thought could've gone into the pricing, i think. i mean, seriously, complete mastery of a skyrim skill for only 5 points?
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>>93264660
It should cost 1 point. What a shit option.
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>>93263257
Can Mirror Assassins enter the dreamworld?
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>>93264720
Yes
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>>93264720
No, Dreams don't have reflections, they're Dreams.
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>>93264111
K-kino...
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>>93264613
>plauge
*plague

>Reflected Maiden
*Reflected Matron

>Oaths: Merciless
Suicide. Take Eternal Ravager instead, its name even fits your blessing.

>Incompatible Target (Spirits, Animals)
>One Way (Reaping)
What is "Reaping"? Anyway, huge drain on resources, especially One Way, crippling, remove them.

>Sleepless
Why? You have nothing Dream except Tahneem and you're not even using it for Dream stuff.

>Sanguine Evolution -7
You're missing an "(All)" and it costs 5 SP in total, not 7.

>Soul magic's Seance
>Phylactery's Reinforce
>Sex Magic
>Harem
Trash or unneeded, remove them.

Max Spirit Armor, Entropic Imbue, and Dark Angel. Consider removing Necromancy and taking Spirit Chains and/or Reverberating Harpoon.

Have better formatting and proofread please.
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>>93264752
>t. jobber that got assassinated on dreamlands
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>>93264775
I'm not a dream fag. The assassin would just kill you while you're sleeping, anyways. They don't even need to come to the dreamland (not that they can)
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>>93264613
>>93264773
>Spirit Chains
Actually, forget about this, Reverberating Harpoon is much better for you. If you don't have enough SP, remove Dark Angel, it doesn't do much, and Spirit Armor's Auto.

Also, consider maxing Pain if you have leftover points.
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Is italics actually black
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>>93264817
Yes. He made a build for Magi Case, and it was Yakub.
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>>93264817
Yes, Italics is a real nigga. I'm a White supremacist ethnofascist but he gets a pass because his work is excellent. Actually, if not for Tok's asiatic tendencies worsening my opinion of them, he probably would've turned me moderate.
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>>93263454
Post the dlc retard
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>>93264849
>It's a flat ability Boost
For the dreamlands. You have no other Dream abilities.

>prerequisites for something else
Harem? Take Ascended Master then. If you don't have enough SP, I guess Harem is ok.

>you can't see why their good
>Sex Magic
Ok, coomer.
>Seance
Just a detection ability, not worth the SP.
>Reinforce
Trash. If someone reaches your phylactery and deals with all the traps and minions protecting it, they're gonna be able to destroy it. The only use of Reinforce is the two extra lives, which you don't need because you already have 6 extra lives without it.
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>>93264840
Even people like Hitler gave passes to certain Jews, did you know? His Jewish childhood doctor refused to take money from his parents when his mother was dying from cancer or something, so he personally spared him and his family, and got him out of the country.

Fucking bizarre.
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>>93264621
>>93264773
>Merciless
I did mean Eternal Ravager, actually. That's a requirement for Physical Empowerment that I listed under Free abilities
>Sleepless
It's a flat ability boost for sleeping
>everything else
Brainlet and Readlet tier comments. Didn't properly read Sanguine Evolution, doesn't understand that Sex Magic is needed for Reflected Maidens, etc. Thanks for the spell check
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>>93264927
>It's a flat ability boost for sleeping
For sleep abilities. You have no powers related to sleep except this.

>Sex Magic is needed for Reflected Maidens
Once again, Matron, and you have Commander.
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>>93264951
It reduces the cost from 4 to 2. You should have stuck to proof reading because you're reading comprehension and hot takes are trash
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What’s the best martial arts to take in italics new waifu kino
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>>93264613
The only indian son good luck with the goddess
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>>93264773
>>93264912
>don't take extra Phylacterys for yourself because you don't need them
>don't take the perk that keeps your bitches working together
Nta but are you being retarded on puropse? Also you can specifically only bind one Phylactery to yourself without reinforcement. It says right in the power
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>>93265135
Why are you pretending he's Indian
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>>93265135
I'm not Indian you readlet I said was harvesting India
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>>93265173
>only bind one Phylactery to yourself without reinforcement
Already been concluded during previous discussions that Link's description has a mistake and that it increases the amount of phylacteries that can be bound.
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>>93265217
I'm not accepting your headcanon over what is clearly and unambiguous written in the cyoa
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Entropist lore discussion is fun. I missed this.
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>>93264951
>>93264912
>when you do sleep
Not when you're sleeping
>all your abilities are increased
Not just sleep related abilities
>AND you are more powerful in the dreamlands
It's a flat boost for sleeping when you don't have too. And you can choose not to sleep. And pass this on to your own minions. AND it's a dreamlands boost
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>>93263257
>Starting Powers:
Soul Drain [Free]
Reap + Physical Attacks
Aligned Magnificence
Spirit Armor + Physical
Consume Soul + Boost
Power Word + All Modifiers
Aura Of Dread + Power
Nightmare Magic + All Modifiers
Dark Smite + All Modifiers
Fallen Angel + All Modifiers
Physical Empowerment

>Later Powers:
Soul Magic + All Modifiers [Free]
Arcane Magic [Free]
Stillness
Spirit Chain + All Modifiers
Reverberating Harpoon + All Modifiers
Echoed Roar + All Modifiers
Perish Song + All Modifiers
Plutonian Dream
Golden Truth
Oblivion Strike
Entropic Imbue + All Modifiers
Walk Blessed
Wind + Water Simulacrum
Lightning + Ice Advanced Elements
Sleep Magic + All Modifiers
Dreamwalker Knight. Could actually get everything needed here, Dual Transformation might have been nice, and maybe a couple others, but nothing to be sad about. Harpoon is a trump card, with low cost/free melee with Dream magic to cover that area. Dark Smite is one of the best options here imo, it’s a free power attack every two minutes. Magic would be used to augment melee combat.

>Perks:
Feast Of Evil
Talented
Beauty [+1 GP]
Sleepless
Extra Lives

>Minions:
Spirit Warrior [Free]
Death Knight
Death Lord [+1 GP]
Black Wyvern
Black Dragon [+1 GP]
Whispers
Hitsuji

>Gifts:
Falista, Apocalypse
Ebon, Dread Empress
Alta, Eternal Victory
Elaine, The Unrelenting
Astra, Dreamland Princess
I think harems are coomer bait, but some loyal generals and advisors couldn’t hurt. Astra is probably the most useful of the bunch.
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>>93265377
>Oaths:
Gentle Ward [Gain Arcane Magic]
Benevolent Elder [Gain Soul Magic + All Modifiers]
I would be doing these anyway, not really drawbacks. The edgier oaths actually seem much more annoying to maintain. If I have one gripe with this it’s that you cannot choose more than two of these, it feels restrictive.

>Drawbacks:
Dead Sense [Taste]
Lonely
Pleasure Target [+1 GP]
Suicide
Hunted
Entropy Magnet
True Son
The Final Rapture
Deep Sleep
Single Root
Homogenous Existence
Mirror Assassin
Some of these aren’t drawbacks unless you’re a degenerate. Suicide is hilarious but also just means I lose a charge of Extra life for 60 days out of the year. Hunted is free souls, and Deep Sleep is barely an inconvenience. Mirror Assassin is actually a little disconcerting, but you only have to hold out for five years. Pleasure target is similar, but I’m on the fast track to power in the Dreamlands. Final Rapture isn’t really that bad, at worst you just spend a century on the backfoot. Losing your sense of taste is a little sad, but it's not as if you need to eat. True Son feels almost like a joke option. It feels just as weird as a Be The Girl drawback. Did the author not want a woman to play this?

>Events: Multiplayer
Will have to deal with a lot, but cooperation has always been our real strength. I doubt most people wouldn't want to attempt to band together. After Planeswalking, the real endgame is becoming an Origin Dragon. I have everything necessary, so it’s just a matter of doing what needs to be done, though I imagine that will take a long long while. Exploring the Dreamlands would be fun, Astra could accompany me while I’m in one of my Deep Sleep’s.
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>>93257791
>>93257844
The orbs were going to be used to represent the foundations of magic before I decided to use proper images for the choice.

>>93264817
Yes.

>>93265024
If I had not failed the Tang Family, the Tang girl would have been the best option. So just pick whichever one tickles your fancy. Are you evil? Go with Priestess. Wanna be a Hero? Go with the Heroine? Outlaw or just a traveler of Jianghu? Get the Fairy. Someone entering the politics of high martial artists and power dynamics? Take the Great Family.
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>>93265377
That's a sick pic
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>>93265380
>Mirror Assassin is actually a little disconcerting, but you only have to hold out for five years.
Don't take it, it's not worth the souls.
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>>93264506
Empyrean Prince
Apex Hunter
Pale Rider
Scattered Spirit
Overlapped Technique
Evolving Hunter
Colossal Strikes
Forced Destiny
Exquisite Puppeteer
Center of Knowledge
Grand Master
Unending
Dark Justice Nightmare Strike
Astral Star
Wyrm Hunter

I think I got everyone who has Spirit Chain. I'll start rating them now.
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>>93263475
>>93265377
You got a new one.
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>>93265436
Yep, added to Unblessed already.
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>>93265377
I think harems are coomer bait, but some loyal generals and advisors couldn’t hurt.
Harem is a great perk that is consistently overlooked not because of the sex because it's massive upgrades to your organization capacity. I think you almost figured that out yourself. Also you should you use the chart because the author isn't coming back to give you a WB. Cool Pic and build
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>>93265455
>you should you use the chart
Sneaky booger tried to slip this in lol.
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>>93265377
I feel we are alike in our goals. I have no authority to bless you, but take this weapon.

Dreamcutter - Greatsword
Material - Sleep paralysis demon, bound in spiritual chains and burned in ghost fire
This blade can only be drawn in the dreamlands, but it is especially powerful against dream entities with a high feast of evil value. When used in conjunction with smite, it applies a binding effect that cripples the foe’s ability to flee or evade
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>>93265423
What's wrong with it? It doesn't seem unsurvivable.
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>>93265458
I'm not trying to be a dick. He's really not coming back
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>>93265455
>Also you should you use the chart
I did, but sometimes anons come up with fun ones.
>>93265460
Case in point. This is neat, I like it. Very in-line with the theme of the build.
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>>93265461
It's perfectly manageable, but it is just not cost effective. You will spend more souls than what you got to get rid of him, not to mention the danger. Mostly, it's not like those souls are necessary in the first place, there is no need to take any green SP drawback at all since you're not really in that much of a hurry to get souls.
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>>93265460
>>93265482
I'll allow it
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>>93265492
Tortured armaments made that weapon, it’s an in-character gift not someone making a blessing
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>>93265498
It's his Wb now because it's cool. I have spoken
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>>93265483
>hurry to get souls.
The gladiator one sort of necessitates it. If you win you can get off the blasted war zone that Earth is going to be a lot faster too.
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>>93265455
>almost figured that out yourself.
Almost?
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>>93264613
>>93265377
These are both great
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>>93265506
>The gladiator one sort of necessitates it.
Self made problem and 100000 souls really isn't much, razing a city would net you more.

>If you win you can get off the blasted war zone that Earth is going to be
Nah, you get out of Earth the moment you're captured. What, you thought that the match is gonna happen on Earth?
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>>93265537
>100000 souls really isn't much, razing a city would net you more.
Yeah I can see that now.
>Nah, you get out of Earth the moment you're captured.
I meant to a nice planet, preferably one with lots of tasty evil souls. Actually, does evil feast perk let you taste souls? It seems like a valid workaround.
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>>93265573
>does evil feast perk let you taste souls?
Yes

>It seems like a valid workaround.
For the drawback? Sort of. IIRC, Entropistanon said that you would taste souls, but there would be a feeling of "something missing." There was a cake analogy; I forgot how it went. You can search the archive.
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>>93264613
>Reaping India so hard that even Kali and Shiva will blush
Kek
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>>93265583
Thanks
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>>93265377
> Suicide
> Relying solely upon Extra Lives
Surely that just guarantees your eventual death?
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>>93265377
Better quality version for your pic. You probably know, but https://www.deviantart.com/serbiandude/art/Fantasy-Knight-1002088863 is the original with the highest quality png version.
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>>93265377
>knight
>endgame is becoming an Origin Dragon
Are you leaning more knight or more dragon? Do you want the blessing to be for one or the other or both? Are you aiming to be a dream dragon?
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>>93265377
This is an easy top 5 build.
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>>93265461
The main problem is that in multiplayer they will ally with other mirror assassins and everything that wants to kill you.
>>93265573
I believe that bans gives you a free planeswalk if you win
>>93265812
In case he has few lives he can buy philacteries
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>>93265359
> Not just sleep related abilities
Reread >>93263303, it's only sleep abilities
>>93265235
EA already clarified that the perks only increase the amount of phylacteries you can bind to. See: >>91473927
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This has to be the most unintentionally (?) pathetic antagonist of any CYOA. All knyazes in Time of Troubles have defined territory from the game map, and his can produce up to 600 Military if you assume that he counted all of his provinces as either Crown Holdings or Frontiers. That budget has room for exactly 0 units of omnidisciplinary 3_tankistaverse mages.
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>>93265852
Naw
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>>93265858
>This has to be the most pathetic antagonist of any CYOA
ENTER.
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>>93265858
>he thinks NPCs are bound to the same rules of economy as the player
>he thinks AI is not cheating by spamming mages for free
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>>93265812
>>93265852
It has some issues, I didn't set out to minmax. I was banking on asking older sons for immortality options they have shored up on.
>>93265828
>Are you aiming to be a dream dragon?
I was going for a Dragonknight feel. I only read you could become one after I made the build, so the dragon part might not feel as connected to the rest of it. Dream Dragon was definitely what I was going for. I assumed dragons could turn into a human form, but Golden Truth might let that happen in the future if they don't.
>>93265855
>The main problem is that in multiplayer they will ally with other mirror assassins and everything that wants to kill you.
Yeah, I understand why it's not a good pick now.
>he can buy philacteries
That's a thing?
>>93265503
Actually, I like the idea of it being a gift more. The lore about Sons helping each other out is one of my favourite bits.
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>>93265878
Ah yes, the Right to Rule power of scripted enemy spawns.
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>>93265879
Sons don't typically work together though.
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>>93265879
>I like the idea of having a free power that I don't have to pay for
You don't say
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>>93265812
He can get other revival powers later.

>>93265879
>he can buy philacteries
>That's a thing?
Sorta. Other people can make phylacteries for you.

>>93265885
We're special. :)
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>>93265889
??? You must have read an older version or something, it 120% says only sleep abilities.
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>>93265889
What a hill to die on.
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>>93265895
Shit you're right. No more drunk posting for me I'm going to bed.
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>>93263692
Alta can defeat the leader of the shadow legion and a paladin at the same time, in a free for all, but she would be tired after,and yes all gift can grow endlessly.
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>>93265879
Rejuvenate allows dragons to take human form.
The elders wouldn't help you too much, they want you to grow on your own merits and they had it much harder. Anyway if you're literally dying and meet an elder they will probably help you
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>>93265885
>As such, meeting a Son should be seen as a positive occurrence, where you both host each other, exchange gifts and information, and the eldest Son usually helps the youngest one in some immediate way.
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>>93264506
The best is overlapped technique that skips the enslaving process and directly overlap it. By doing so he's basically using both rock and scissor at once, he can't lose.
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>>93265888
>Other people can make phylacteries for you.
Oh, that's interesting.
>>93265916
>The elders wouldn't help you too much
I was hoping the Sons in the Plutonian Dream would be a little more willing.
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>>93265930
The full paragraph:

> They almost never work together but tend to be hospitable and positively inclined to give localized help to each other. As such, meeting a Son should be seen as a positive occurrence, where you both host each other, exchange gifts and information, and the eldest Son usually helps the youngest one in some immediate way. Afterwards, your part ways, and likely won't call upon each other as allies or contacts in the future, but will both likely leave with a positive impression. If you're in mortal danger, and there's a Son nearby, chances are he'll come to your rescue. In that respect, conflicts and fights amongst Sons are almost unheard of. Treating each other dishonesty is seen as a sign of shame and mockery.
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>>93265916
he doesn't have necromancy and it makes you half as strong
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>>93265953
how is this different from what he said? "helping each other out" is different from working together.
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>>93265940
Sure I was only thinking of someone who wanted to ask him a billion souls because for him aren't too much, as others are saying they are helpful I only overreacted
>>93265959
Keeping his draconic strength in a human body seems too much at least for now, i don't think there are options for that, and can't he pay someone with rejuvenate?
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>>93265879
>>93265981
>Golden Truth might let that happen in the future if they don't.
afaik its reality warping but not sure
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>>93265965
The point is, constantly going to other sons for help is not going to be received positively.
Also from EA:
> Sons almost never loan to each other, specially since you're basically still a child in their eyes. The circumstances and context of your birth are also supremely easy compared to most Sons, whoa are usually born in magical and much more dangerous worlds (Pluto had to fight and kill an Exquisite Noble early on, and almost got killed by local Tempered Heroes, for example)
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>>93266027
>The point is, constantly going to other sons for help is not going to be received positively.
I never said I was going to do this? I was just going to trade for the knowledge with the Plutonian Dream Sons. I'm not looking for handouts.
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>>93266049
I'm talking about the phylactery thing.
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>>93266083
He can buy it from younger sons
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>>93266083
Oh, fair enough. It is Multiplayer scenario though so >>93265888 might be right. I'm sure some anons would be reasonable about it.
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>>93263257
>trying to record all answers to previous questions for easy finding in the future
>including all the lore that Entropistanon said in the thread
>herculean nigh impossible task
Please help.

Here is what I've gathered so far: https://rentry.org/Entropist_Information
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>>93266096
Stand proud anon, you were strong
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>>93266096
There was an anon that posted a bunch of screenshots with questions around January that should help. Godspeed anon.
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>>93266096
ganbatte anon-kun

>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/91552461/#91558464
My question about how Orphan works, which he answered (it's also funny he says that the shitposts are from less successful authors).
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>>93266155
Any key words? Although I remember it happening, I can't find it.
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>>93266197
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/91641610/#q91642529
Another of my questions he answered about what normally happens to the souls of the dead on Earth. Personally I found it important, since basically even if you don't harvest them, they'll usually go to the Father anyway.
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>>93266096
>author ramblings completely contradict whats in the cyoa
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>>93266233
>t. less successful authors
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>>93266233
But enough about Italics.
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>>93266236
It's simply a statement of fact. He should have updated this shit if that was really his intention
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>>93266237
KEEP MY WIFE'S NAME OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH
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>>93266241
Sorry Tok, won't happen again.
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>>93266241
How do you feel about your wife copying Fate (again)? >>93265404
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>>93266233
>said the man with no oc.
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>>93266236
>>93266237
>>93266261
It's a cyoa not a religion
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>>93266268
refer to >>93266261 & >>93266236
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>>93266268
It's more of a sitcom really.
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>>93266096
Updated. I'll continue tomorrow.

>>93266197
>>93266223
Thanks.
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>>93266268
I wonder if we had people trying to make a CYOA their whole personality, kinda like some dudes do on Twitter.
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>>93266365
Merely "making choices" can't be a personality.
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>>93266365
My CYOA personality is Black Magic.
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>>93266375
Jokes on you I'm a Italics' cumeater.
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>>93266096
If the author did this from the start, we would still be singing his praises and hailing him as the greatest of all time.
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>>93266534
Sigh, hindsight is 20/20.
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>>93266534
almost like he was a hack
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>>93266155
>>93266216
nta but i found them. now that i look at it 30% of questions where asked by me, i also previously updated the gift chart
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>>93266613
post no. >>91547768
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>>93266613
Finally a cyoa for tall woman enjoyers.
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>>93266096
Now that i see the Void cutter question. What do you think the rest of elemental void cutters are like?

We lack Ice, Fire and Metal
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>>93266613
>Kouryu is 1 cm shorter than Sangra
Kek
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>>93266841
fire would probably cauterize the cut and possibly set the opponent aflame, ice if directly used against an opponent would give them hypodermic wounds but it could be used to debuff and slow an attack since ice magic is related to time magic, i have no idea for iron...
i bet you can imbue void cutter with blood magic to cause injuries to bleed much faster.

also, reminder that power word can be used to apply and modify void cutter and other powers with various effects
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>>93266841
Well I imagine they have the secondary properties that elements seem to have in this setting. I can see Ice being able to slow down enemies.
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>>93266926
Ice magic and Time magic are related but are also different. So I imagine there is a variation for both, one that is like you said about ice and another one that is some time fuckery like stopping time for 0.1 for the cut enemy or stopping time for the part cut.

Which means there is a variation of nature magic that isn't the one of gravity magic nida knows. Maybe growing plants from the wounds made by it?

Metal is the most difficult because that magic is to create materials
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>>93266096
>Alta wins every time
Ectosissies, bloomfaggs, and Kirilialosers on suicidewatch
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I knew that anon yesterday was lying. He even changed what the author said for his argument. This cyoa was never meant to reach op levels like lightspeed or planetbusting.
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>>93267156
??????
That answer itself doesn't contradict anything. In fact, you say it is not meant to reach planetbusting levels but it is literally telling you they are planet busting levels.

Also, nobody lied
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/91540155/#q91547646
Its literally EA one week later explaining more about the power levels and literally has 2 gifts destroying a dimension and local parts of another planes in existence.

Reading comprehension problem?
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OH NONNONOONNO. TOK-SAMA, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR HOUR OF GLORY! WE ARE THE KOREAN GODS. HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO US?
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>>93267136
>every time
Read much, much slower.
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>Entropist
>again
This is getting tiresome. Unless Entropist anon comes back, any discussion of this CYOA will inevitably keep growing ever staler, by the very nature of it.
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>>93267240
Sorry that your gift is inferior, anon
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>>93267248
I have Alta, I lack only three gifts, just Alta wins as a general rule, not every time.
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>>93267136
Well yeah, that's the point of Alta, that she's the best solo combatant/general. It'd be weird if she didn't win the majority of fights.
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>>93267246
Yes, this is why no one should EVER post a cyoa that was made by an author that is no longer here!!!!!
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We should delete the cyoa archive and allsync. Unless those authors come back, any discussion of their CYOAs will inevitably keep growing ever staler, by the very nature of it.
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>>93267246
>>93267251
Entropist discussion coming back is a symptom, not a problem in and of itself.
Tell me this: given how hostile the environment is here, and be honest about that... Why would someone new WANT to make OC for this place? What would they really, honestly get out of it? Until that changes, there isn't going to be much, or any, OC.

>Verification not required.
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>>93267246
Such is entropy.
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>>93267265
The AllSync should be password gated and only select individuals should be able to grace the thread with cyoas. Supply and demand would make everyone enjoy the thread again and every old gem would be received as divine omen to re-read rather than a ritualpost
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>>93267251
You're being intellectually dishonest, you know my point. Blessings not handed out by Entropist anon will always be strictly inferior to others, due to the garbage guidelines he left, and/or dismissed by everyone who did get a blessing, which, since Entropist anon is gone, means that no newcomer can really enjoy this CYOA as it was intended.
Now, I understand that a lot of people here really enjoy that "secret club" aspect of Entropist, but it also means posting it and talking about it is largely pointless.
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>>93267265
No, it's definitely good that allsync exists. You're being silly.
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>>93267278
>you're being intellectually dishonest
Of course he is, is this your first time here?
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>>93267278
>no newcomer can enjoy... ACK
Then why do we have a new build in this very thread that seemed to had fun?
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>>93267300
>as it was intended
Reading comprehension, anon.
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>>93267281
>You're being silly
Of course he is, is this your first time here?
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>>93267278
I got a blessing and I am perfectly fine with people making up blessings. Only the shitposters want to force the shitty spite page on new players.
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>>93267278
>as it was intended.
Entropist anon broke that rule first.
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>>93267278
you snooze, you lose
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>>93267246
Then make good oc for once Hyenanon. The only way to shut up Entropist is with good oc so lead by example.
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i would like to say that hyeanons archaeologist cyoa made me interested in tes lore again and start playing skyrim again to have sex with dwemer women
thanks hyeanon
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>>93263257
There's way too many options for the amount of points you get. Is there a drawback section?
Am I not supposed to play this in numerical order?
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>>93267479
> Is there a drawback section?
...anon...
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>>93267321
Walk blessed was never intended to be the focus of the cyoa. The author said as such. Reading comprehension, anon.
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>>93267246
Sorry, Hyenacuck. You can sperg out all you want. None of your slops will EVER be as popular
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>>93263257
There's something oddly comforting about Entropist's design. Maybe it's the brown colored dialogue boxes with a dark background but reading through it is comfier than how a cyoa about being a multiplanar genocidal demigod should feel like.
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What's the smallest acceptable font size for a 1.2k x 10k CYOA page? Asking purely for a friend. I'm definitely not working on oc.
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>>93265858
What CYOA?
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>>93267733
Times of Troubles, it's a Tankista OC.
https://imgchest.com/p/lqyevdp37dn
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>>93266096
All his errata is worse than whats actually in the cyoa
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>>93267724
Yeah, when he asked about entropy based powers for a cyoa before it was released, I thought it's tone would be much more bleak.
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>>93266096
Holy shit tahneem is actually absurdly powerful. Wtf was he thinking
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>>93267865
Superior minions are op in general. Death lords with soul are stronger than Tahneem, Black dragons are stronger than Death lords. Ancient Black Dragons are stronger then 100k soul cost evil spirits
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>>93267865
It's a stronk minion
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>>93267724
The Father offers peace. It might the kind of peace i don't want but some do and it has a place in the world.
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any advice for a self buff """"marital""" build?
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>>93267900
>>93267912
Yeah I get that but I was thinking something like a giant squid aka on par with a dragon. He says it's godzilla size and city level. Do you understand how crazy that is compared to everything else? And a human shaped Tahneem can have half that power compacted into human human. That's nuts
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>>93267865
It's the most extensive minion wtf did you think?
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>>93267926
marital? marry as many waifus as possible and harem, its easy, pick every GP
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>>93267935
You have to invest so fucking much to get the squids anon.
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>>93267940
Fuckkkkkkk meant expensive fuck phoneposting. Also i says it's small godzilla size which is what just slightly bigger than a blue whale? That's not that big.
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>>93267935
In size he is the biggest. In power he is not.
A death lord with full capacity of souls is stronger, so a human sized death lords would win even better agaisnt the human sized tahneem.

Tahneem are strong but i saw them as the general of the water/dream creatures and to do massive dream heal for free because mana is autogenerated
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>>93267951
>*it says
Fuck it. Tahnim still look like shit next to death lords and shir.
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>>93267942
love is a battlefield
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>>93263342
>Requirements for black dragon: Power word, Black wyvern, then 3SP
>Requirements for Tahneem, Sleep/Nightmare, Hitsuji/Whispers, then 2SP
Huh. I had in memory the old costs. Forgot they got way less demanding.
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>>93267951
Nah, small godzilla is way bigger than a blue whale. Its basically mid-high building in height,
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>>93267979
It's not that big all things considered.
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>>93267935
The dragons are stronger, they're explicitely the strongest superior minions.
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>>93267983
It's big enough to get the holy fuck effect without being big enough that it causes too much problems in logistic.

What is a question is how big would Astra big, given she must be a lot bigger than the Tahneems
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>>93267267
Maybe this place will die for good this time.
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>>93267956
A deathlord would get absolutely crushed. If it's comparable to anything it'd be a dragon. Those are hands down the strongest two minions in the cyoa
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>>93267996
She is a big girl
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>>93267979
Well small godzilla is more like 40m from those old jap movies. Also add in tentacles and the main body would end up being pretty fucking small.
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>>93268000
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/90769392/#q90775122
Nope, starting death lord and starting tahneem is a close fight and the death lord simply gets stronger faster
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>>93268017
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>>93268025
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>>93268015
The body itself is zilla sized. The tentacles are separate
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>>93268044
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>>93268055
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>>93268062
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>>93264613
>>93264621
This makes really good use of Dual Form. IIRC that was an underused ability
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I have to pee but I don’t want to pee :(
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>>93268017
who's the author?
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>>93268192
Nxtub.
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>>93268192
fuck just saw nxtub put their name at the bottom
embarrassing
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>>93263379
>>93266096
>>93264621
I'm wondering now if Blood Pact counts as "Minion Related Magic" for the purpose of the Disloyalty Drawback or if that's considered fair game as long as they're not mind controlled.
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>>93268267
I think blood pact would work.
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>>93268267
I don't see why it would, it doesn't turn the other party into your minion (in mechanical sense).
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>>93268302
none of them. by the time the juice barely reaches the pipe to 2 the orange has been depleted
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>>93268302
4, right?
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>>93267979
>>93268015
godzlla size has been all over the place since its first appearance.
the first iteration was 50 meters tall and the biggest version was 318
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>>93268324
The pipe to 4 (and 1 and 3) is blocked.
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>>93268302
do cats like orange juice?
>>93267725
is it a furry oc?
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You don't get Tahneem for their physical strength so it really shouldn't matter how strong they are.
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>>93268386
This, they are a mothership minion specialized for the dreamlands
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>>93268302
God this is a confluence of obscure memes
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>>93268386
Dumb take
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>>93268386
Well if your big boss is too weak then it is just focus the guy to ruin the advantage
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>>93268475
Which is why everyone remembers Napoleons bodyguards in awe. Crazy how they beat him in that fistfight in Waterloo.
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>>93268500
Retarded or retarded on purpose?
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>>93268475
>>93268500
Nta but I really don't understand the arguments you two are having.
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>>93268548
One guy is saying that if a commander is weak they can just kill him. The other guy says that the commander has bodyguards so it doesn't really matter

Dumb argument desu. Tahneem are strong on their own and good commander for dream creatures, so they are debating nothing really
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>>93268516
Here are some annotations for you:
#1 Napoleon was famously mocked for small stature (which may or may not have been the case)
#2 Napoleon famously surrounded himself with brawny, tall bodyguards (the minimum height requirement, 185cm, is still idiomatic all over western europe)
#3 I don't remember any of this weak big bosses bodyguards, but I do remember him.
#4 He didn't lose a fistfight, he lost a campaign

>>93268548
I am just a third party mocking the personal power fags

>>93268561
>The other guy says that the commander has bodyguards so it doesn't really matter
An army, really.
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I am begging you all to learn how to speak English
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>>93268589
No.
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>>93268575
>Personal power
>When discussing a minion
?????????
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>>93268626
The minion's personal power, yes. Can I solve any other of life's mysteries for you today?
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>>93268640
You are paying premium cost for that minion so it is assumed it will have some personal strength. Otherwise it would be cheaper.
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>>93268662
I have nothing to add to your deep insights.
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>>93268575
So retarded
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>>93268682
no i name YOU the retard
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you guys are cute today
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>>93268691
Kek, you can have him but dont lose the word ratio game
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>>93268702
Damn right we are.
CYOAG is a cute general and noncuteness will not be tolerated.
Total Beri Victory.
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Entropist is a necromancy CYOA overrated by people too bored to work for OC.
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Fags, the lot of you.
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Cuteposters will be shot.
Berifags will be waterboarded.
Blissfags will be hanged.
Rosanontroons and BTGtrannies will be hanged, drawn, and quartered.
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Know who's cute? Tok. Tok a big cute.
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>>93268773
Nice try Tokkek
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>>93268769
Trying to act tough like that is so cute anon!
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Know who's cute? Gil. Gil a big cute.
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>>93269029
see >>93268747
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>>93268773
Stop deadnaming Zynthia.
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>>93269029
It's been eight or nine years, man. Gil is a fully grown man. A whole damn man. An adult male. You've been doing this for his entire adult growth arc.
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>>93269044
>Eight or nine years
Beyond the shitposter mentioning him unprompted, do people even remember him? I can hardly imagine someone staying in this hellhole for a decade.
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>>93269065
I've been here since 2013. I was fourteen.
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>>93269065
Gil was on the discord when i checked it a few years ago, he might still be there now. I've always assumed the poster behind >>93269029 is some discord person.
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>>93269065
There is no escape
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Get along, try again

>>93269119
>>93269119
>>93269119
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>>93269044
He will always be a baby.
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>>93269044
He's still a virgin hence still a cute
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>>93269065
I was there when he was around but yeah only the shitposter mentions the guy. I don't get it.
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>>93269271
It's gil. He's lonely.



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