PUMPING SQUIRRELS Edition▶Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/june-24-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcementhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/pauper-bans-for-june-6-2024▶Official News:MagicCon: Las Vegas Badges On-Sale Now! https://checkout.conventions.leapevent.tech/eh/vnbrihbufdbbjfdjobfbjoe/?cc=WOTCwebThe Release Notes include information concerning the release of Bloomburrow, as well as a collection of clarifications and rulings involving that set's cards.https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/bloomburrow-release-notes"Brian Boss packed his bags, gathered his cards, and took off for the airport. His final destination? Amsterdam. He sat on a crowded plane for eight hours as he traveled across the world with one goal in mind: To qualify for Magic World Championship 30."https://magic.gg//news/the-week-that-was-masters-of-their-craft▶Something that happened over a year ago that people still put in the OP for some reason(?):Magic: The Gathering publisher hires Pinkerton to seize leaked cards from YouTuber’s househttps://www.dicebreaker.com/categories/trading-card-game/news/magic-the-gathering-aftermath-youtube-prompts-pinkerton-investigation▶Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES▶Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/▶Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES▶Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES▶Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/▶Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM▶Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/▶What is E D H?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1▶Previously>>93382491▶TQ:Are you playing the game because you're having fun, or because you're addicted?
It's a game of numbers.
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>>93394755>>93394793Remember that MtG was at its best when the cards would tested around limited and Dominaria was the beginning of the end.
I've never played physical magic before. Would it be worth going to a Bloomburrow pre-release?
>>93394867Have you played sealed digitally before?
>>93394793>I equip my Ezio Auditore with the Infinite Gauntlet and attack alongside my Cloud and my Gollum, btw The One Ring makes me draw 3 cards. Your Turn.This game and the UB formats specially are already doomed
>tfw burdened with knowledge of how to save mtg but have no means of actually accomplishing it
>>93394472I would pump that squirrel
>>93394879I have and I'm shit at it.
>>93394995>T.Crazy anonIf Mark couldnt save this game no one can.
>>93395000So you know what to expect. Ask yourself if you can still enjoy the experience if you go 0-3, and there's your answer.
>>93395012I'm 100% pure Bavarian stock, not Jewish like Mark. I actually could save this game.
Keep playing with friends
Which of the Bloomburrow tribal legends is the best/worst?
>>93395012mark is a blightall he does is make bad mechanics then bow to hasbrohe has no real controlhe wasnt even the hnic at wotc at magic's downturn
>>93394755>unsets>battlebond>conspiracyI dunno I don't think we're missing out on much
>>93394472tqA bit of both probably (I exclusively play on arena)
>>93395012MARK*CLAP*MADE*CLAP*COMPANIONS
>>93395099God bless him. Make more Mark!!!!
>>93395099Companions were a good mechanic. Hating them is just a reddit/youtuber meme.
>>93395056Rats seems the weakest to me. Not alot of cards and their mechanics aren't as cohesive. All the others seem decent with squirrel probably being best. Really hope otters and bats do well
>>93395042I don’t have any, so i do my fnm on arena
>>93395174Any effect that includes "from outside of the game" is an inherently bad card. Wish, Tron, Companions, etc. are all mechanically bad cards. This is non-negotiable.
>>93395224Talked like a true faggot anon.
>>93395317
>>93394472ftfy
>>93395174
>>93395182That makes sense. I mostly do sealed/draft, so I have a hard time picturing the frog and raccoon working as intended and not just fucking over the player using them.
>>93394977>Whoa whoa>in response to you moving to combat, I play “Bazinga!” From the Big Bang theory set>This triggers my commander Kramer, Annoying Neighbor from the Seinfeld set>*puts a Mackinaw Peach token into play, sac it immediately*>My Homer Simpson can now block multiple creatures
>>93394977you say that but assassin's creed failed to produce any playable cards
every day until you like it
I like the brain dead lands. Sue me.
I'm doing the thing where I'm pretending I'm in a video essay explaining how to fix the game again...
>>93395745You can keep going with this horrible shitpost my answer will always be the same: Trash
>>93395745>it sits in the space between peopleGoddamn artists are insufferable
I finally won with Grinding Station.It wasn't worth it.
>>93395868Omgzzz so liminal and kafkaesque!Time to get schwifty!
>>93395953How does this impact me if I'm not a burger (and my country has no known oil deposits)?
what's happening?
>>93395927you are just putting down cardboard rectangles until either you or the other manchild across the table say "uuuh i'm dead". using one or another specific cardboard rectangle isn't going to give ylu happiness
>>93395993Give me sloppy and maybe then I'll have happiness, bitch.
I wish Precon standard/modern decks were a thing. My friends don't play EDH and I'm too lazy to make a new deck
WEE WOO WEE WOONEW SHITBREW ALERTINCOMING NEW SHITBREW
>>93395985How did you manage to learn how to read, write and count to 10 without helping yourself with your fingers?How come putin farts after eating a hearty matzo balls soup on the other side of the planet and now suddenly prices skyrocket and eating steak is now antisemitic?Do you really believe black Aragon was done in good faith or for the interests of black people in the slightest?
>>93395174bad intern, Mark is a good designer and so is Aaron, but you are either drugged, mentally challenged or trolling
>>93395953leaking?
RETARDED SHITBREW WARNINGOkay okayhear me outyes I know it looks like absolute retarded garbagebut it can win gamesAwaken the Woods land tokens don't get bounced or destroyed by "nonland permanent" board wipes like Crush of Tentacles and get buffed by Sylvan Awakening and other lands matters anthemsRisen Reef + Zendikar's Roil is unironically a nutter comboThe Great Aurora doesn't end the turn, so you can just cast it, dump your grip of lands than Sylvan Awakening if you draw it and murder them on an empty boardI mean hell, we get so much mana we can basically hardcast ANYTHING by turn 6, the options are limitlessdrop the reef/roil combo for Koma maybe, or something even stupiderI swear to fuck there's a REAL brew somewhere in this ideait's not refined yet, but I swear it's a real deck it just needs time...
>>93395745Ok but where are the good secret lairs?
>>93396086What does that shitbrew do that Nadu doesn't?
>>93396095Cute breedable bunny butt!
>>93396138>somehow we found someone more retarded than me
>>93396148I'm not retarded YOUR retarded YOUR the one playing lands and shit so why not play the Nadu??
>>93396138>modern now is literally yugioh where it's oneshot or get oneshotted unless you have an ash blossom to throw a wrench into the opponent's gears so you delay the oneshotting by 1 turn
>>93395706I tap my Ronald of the Golden Arches in order to create a $5 Meal Deal token, then I pay 1R to activate Wendy, Nugget Dipper's ability to create a $5 Biggie Bag token. Since both tokens have drinks, they're considered Coca Cola products for my Coca Cola Polar Bear, which gets +1/+1 for each Coca Cola product on the battlefield. Then I sacrifice a Coca Cola Spiced token and Coca Cola Vanilla to give my Coca Cola Polar Bear first strike and lifelink respectively.
>>93396179>nowWHERE WERE YOU WHEN 50% OF DECKS WERE LITERALLY>T1 Thoughseize>T2 Bloodtithe Harvester>T3 Fable of the Mirror-Breaker>T4 Sheoldred, the Apocalypse>T5 Invoke DespairYOU BITCHASS BROTHERTRUCKER???
>>93396211We're talking about Modern, not Standard/Pioneer
>>93394472▶TQ:Are you playing the game because you're having fun, or because you're addicted?More than likely, both.
>>93396039Sure, maro said players are not willing to pay 800 (sarting price) bucks for a precon, sorry sucker!(A card costs all costs included 2 cents to produce, a whole deck costs around $2 packaging included.)
>>93396211I was playing Phoenix.
>>93396211I legit dropped pioneer when they refused to ban fable, now it's even worse than the worst scenario I've imagined.
>>93396179Isn't that just Legacy?
>>93396228nta but didn't he basically said that they are not willing to pay half of that, i mean the price point post talked about $300
Pioneer:BAN FableBAN BloodtitheBAN Vein RipperBAN SorinBAN AmaliaBAN MutavaultModern:BAN GriefLegacy: BAN FoWBAN Psychic FrogBAN GriefBAN Troll of Khazad-dumBAN WastelandPauper:BAN Refurbished FamiliarBAN Myr EnforcerBAN Writhing ChrysalisBAN Avenging HunterBAN Sneaky Snacker
Instead banning, unban.
>>93396252Please understand incel, if you want to play this game you have to stop eating, drinking water, washing and clothing yourself and you must also cut off your penis, wear a skirt and a wig and start taking psychiatric medications.
>>93396274>no Nadu ban
>>93396274>pioneer bans lollmao even
>>93394793Are you sure that you're not the greens or purples?
>>93396326there's no purple color on this image
>>93396284This.
UNBAN TIME WALK YOU COWARDSin modern
>>93396284Why not just play Vintage?
>>93395174The inherent problem with companions is that a free card from outside the game gives a huge advantage, so you either have to make it too slow to retrieve to make it meta (effectively what the 3 mana errata did), you have to make it so that the forced archetype is really difficult to win with on its own (can’t be your typical control deck +20 cards), or you just have to make the companion really mediocre.
>>93396450They can be both fun and not obscenely broken.
>>93396460>or you just have to make the companion really mediocre
>>93396287>dies to removal
>>93396460If you like commander so much why not just say that.
>>93396499>>93396515You are the reason why they made 9/10 companions absolutely busted.
>>93395745do atleast collectors buy these or its some sort of money laundering scheme?
>>93396573>gaslightingyou are not seriouscummander cancer is what it is and it shows
>>93394793This is cope for Magictards though. Too many have spent hundreds if not thousands of dollars on this game because they were too retarded to proxy, and now they're stuck playing an ever shittier game because they can't eat their losses and move on, so they bitterly berate a game that has not been for them for years now all while CONSOOMING moar product.
>>93395745Nothing screams being a punk skateboarding anti-culture loving disruptive artist more than creating some basic bitch AI generated tier art for a massive corporation.
>>93396661People need to consume to survive.
>>93396688They trained the AI to spew anti-cultural nonsense as well as. This 'collective' is a fabrication.
Duskmourn hype train choo choo(yeah the set will be tasteless and shit but I think we will get plent of broken shit)
>>93396736Oh boy!I can't wait to watch television slop on TV screens on my slop Magic cards!
>>93395745>we_appreciate_power.webmbot-like behavior
>>93396274your phone is ringing
>>93396744>Screens broke /mtg/ more than hats did
>>93396861THEY'RE LITERALLY JUST REGULAR ASS REGULAR OLD MOTHERFUCKING BORING ASS REGULAR TELEVISIONS
>>93394472>Are you playing the game because you're having fun, or because you're addicted?I have fun playing with my friends but interacting with mtg players in LGSs post covid has been a nightmare. Did nerds in general lose any modicum of social skills during lockdown? Also I cant fucking stand how goofy some of the cards are. Its like they let reddit decide a dozen cards per set.
>>93394821Khans was the last great setC2015 was the last good commander product idk what happened in 2016- but its been a pretty rapid decline in quality both cardstock and ideas in general
>>93396879>Did nerds in general lose any modicum of social skills during lockdown?Honestly it did a blow to everyone's social skills. Nerds just had so little to start with that it set them back to zero.
>>93395174>Companions were a good mechanic.
>>93396326I'm the pink one.
>>93396185WoW UB can't come to save us soon enough.
>>93397145Hearthstone is the biggest competitor to Magic, they're not gonna make a crossover with it any time soon.
>>93397152Blizzard is gonna buy WotC from Hasbro and fuse Hearthstone and Magic into a single game.
The last time MtG was Good, Savannah Lions was still a worthy rare.
>>93397188Ravagan is a Savannah Lion thoughever.
the last time magic was good mythic rares didnt exist
Can we talk for a moment about how they have a compleated fragment of the Legacy Weapon and Phyrexia didn't nuke the entire multiverse on a whim the instant they compleated it?
>>93397233That's not how the Legacy Weapon works (it needs ALL the parts to do its thing, and some of those parts no longer exist), and the Weatherlight is basically nerfed after the Mending and whatnot.
>>93397233The multiverse has plot armor against phyrexia/Yawgmoth.
>>93397268>That's not how the Legacy Weapon works (it needs ALL the parts to do its thingThe LW is a metaphysical weapon. It didn't need any of its parts, the parts assembling were just the cosmic confluence that resulted in its activation, which Urza foresaw with his giga autism.To interact with parts of the Legacy Weapon is to interact not just with fate and reality itself, but you're basically interacting with the fucking toon force.
>>93397313Well, it's basically 'used up' now. The Weatherlight is functionally just a really good ship currently. And I'm pretty sure it was blown up pretty soon after it was compleated.
>>93397327>Well, it's basically 'used up' nowYou don't just un-meta the physics.
>>93397233It didn't have enough phyresis counters.
>>93397340Even so, it's a fated thing for the Legacy Weapon to work. Phyrexia was never fated to use it. They would've needed Karn at the same time, and they never quite had him properly, they only had him in pieces, not to mention all the other components.Also, let's be fair, Magic has a history of going "hey we're gonna use this powerful thing from the past- Oh no it did nothing" did you really want the fucking Legacy Weapon to be part of that.
They really want mono green to be a thing in standard. I'll be willing to bet CoCo gets a Foundations reprint.
>>93397395Green's been fairly weak in Standard as of late, so it makes sense.
>>93397395>I'll be willing to bet CoCo gets a Foundations reprint.We literally have Duskmourn art for it.
>>93397425That's a Special Guest, not Standard legal.
More brews in the works. I don't think the Ghalta/Henge sultai fat butts brew is going to turn into anything, just too fragile.Esper Vehicles though... FUCK me is this deck fast. i honestly think this might be the fastest pure aggro deck I've seen in Pioneer right now. It's serious blazing fast brutality.It's also no the easiest to interact with, as Vehicles dodge board wipes.Another very fun brew that I think has some potential to push somewhere into the meta.
>>93397425Didn't know that. I'm still getting familiar with BB.
>>93397432And I find it unlikely that they'd reprint one of their chase Special Guest cards in the core set that's going to be around for a few years.
>>93397457Plenty of Special Guests reprints are of bulk, I wouldn't put too much stock into that.
>>93397395CoCo would be fucking retarded in Standard i mean at that point you can just introduce all the retarded bullshit like Cat+Oven, or Embercleave or Fatal Push
>>93396661But I only play 93/94 and 95 OS these days.Proxies are for yellows
>>93396274God i'm willing to even pay money to fucking Wizards to see them ban Nadu, Sorin and FUCKING CRUISE ANON how can you forget that card?
>>93397662They'll ban Prankster so the deck doesn't completly die, ala Iteration.
>>93396138Lack Nadu. There is no more noble goal.
maybe you hate me but i'm 100% staying past august.
>>93397702>Everybody stops playing it and sells out of it, knowing it's going to be banned.>"We've been monitoring the formats.">"Nadu had a low play rate in this recent tournament, suggesting the meta has adapted.">"No changes in all formats."
>>93397702even if he does get banned in modern, nadu is a completely competitive legacy deckit's a win-win situation, there's no way to lose with nadu
>>9339770210 out of 10 Content Creators™disagree.Verification not required.
Say it with me...NO CHANGES IN ALL FORMATS.
>>93397750Fuck they will not have the balls to even dare to do this right? RIGHT? That would be a huge shitshow nobody would be able to swallow...
>>93397662Treasure Cruise is not a problem, and Nadu dies to removal so it's a non-issue.
>>93397638I guess it is too powerful for standard, specially with rotation. Still, it really looks like they want green creatures to be as strong as needed, there are a bunch of low mana fatsos in this set.
>>93397775>Treasure Cruise is not a problemImagine being stupid enough to say this.
>>93397775This, but unironically. Let Bird decks dominate, let the world rage.
>>93397779Fable beats TC in the seething department.
>>93397750NO CHANGES IN ALL FORMATS.NO CHANGES IN ALL FORMATS.NO CHANGES IN ALL FORMAAAAAATS!!!
>>93397784Nothing can beat the supreme unfair cards in the seethe department, is like compare The One Ring with the energy cards.
do bloomburrow play boosters not have any chance of getting the nicer art?
>>93397779Treasure Cruise is such a fucking non-issue in Phoenix I have no idea why you're analpained about it.
>>93397750The meta is healthiest it has ever been.NO CHANGES IN ALL FORMATS.
>>93397790And yet, most people complain about Fable more often than they do TC, and seem to think Necro is as busted if not more than Ring.When I say most people, I'm not talking about here obviously, just broadly speaking.
>>93397804>Treasure Cruise is such a fucking non-issue in Phoenix I have no idea why you're analpained about it.It literally solo carries the entire fucking deck are you retarded?
>>93397801Define "nicer art".
When is the August ban announcement supposed to be?Should I be worried about jumping into Boros Energy in Historic?
>>93397814Consider is more powerful in Phoenix than Treasure Cruise. CONSIDER. Heck I'd toss out Shredder before tossing out TC. TC is only viable in one (1) deck and dies to basic control. It's a non-issue.
>>93397825Last week of August, next year.
>>93397825>When is the August ban announcement supposed to be?In August, probably.
>>93397825My dad works at Wizards, he leaked the ban announcements. Here's a complete list of each card being banned, broken down by format:
>>93397829>Consider is more powerful in Phoenix than Treasure CruiseConsider literally only exists in the deck to enable cruise lmfao what the fuck kind of atomic retard rays are you living under?
this card make me irrationally mad Can we stop with the silly shit for a bit I can only xdddddddddd so many times
>>93397839>remotely pinkertonedwe will never know...
>>93397845Consider exists to enable PHOENIX THE DECK'S NAME IS PHOENIX NOT TREASURE CRUISE YOU STUPID SMELLY FARTHEAD
>>93397818Showcase stuff, borderless, all that. I could've swore MKM had it in play boosters but Bloomburrow doesn't appear to.
>>93397825>When is the August ban announcement supposed to be?2 weeks after bloomborrow releases, I believe
>>93397851the joke was that there was nothing being banned but I guess that works too
>>93397849You hated it, but 5000 loved it and giggled when their favourite BO1 Arena streamer first packed it, so I'm afraid all further cards will be silly -Maro
>>93397853Not really.Consider hits a Phoenix like 4% of the time. It's not really a noteworthy part of the list.Lightning Axe and Shredder are the primary means of pitching a Phoenix. Consider is literally just a slightly more optimal Opt.And then Cruise singlehandedly enables the entire garbage pile. Phoenix is a fucking terrible deck, it's just a deck that gets to play Treasure Cruise so it tops the meta by chance.
>>93397856Everything but the anime art and Imagine: Critters cards are in Play Boosters, I think.
Maybe I found a fun modern deck but I'm sure it just folds to whatever is meta.
>>93397864If,Phoenix is a fucking terrible deck,Then,Why ban Treasure Cruise?
>>93397865Except the anime Lumra, I think? Maybe I'm not understanding Collecting article well enough. You can just scour this.https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/collecting-bloomburrow
>>93397859dark sense of humor
>>93397873Because Treasure Cruise is a broken card you gob nobbler.
>>93397864>Phoenix is a fucking terrible deckEhm, ok but redact that part where Phoenix, the child poster of the format, is somehow 'terrible'.
>>93397874Actually, you know, here's just a link to the Card Image Gallery showing everything that's available in Play Boosters specifically.https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/bloomburrow/card-image-gallery?cigcolor=all-colors&cigfreshness=all-cards&cigproduct=blb-products-play-boosters&cigset=all-sets&cigsubset=all-subsets&cigsubtype=all-subtypes&cigtreatment=all-treatments&cigtype=all-types&cigrarity=all-rarities
legacy grixis control my beloved....
>>93397886If,Treasure Cruise is a broken card,Then,Why isn't is used in every deck that runs blue?
>>93397862Damn
>>93397887>Ehm, ok but redact that part where Phoenix, the child poster of the format, is somehow 'terrible'.Treasure Cruise is the poster child of the format.Phoenix is just the stick that carries it.
>>93397891>>93397865Sweet. I was confused cuz the "Collect MKM" article is so much more in depth than the Bloomburrow one, specifically referencing what card arts and shit are available.
>cast thoughtcast in a challenge>MTGO declares the other player the winner
>>93397902>If Griselbrand is so broken, why isn't it played in every black deck????Braindead thought patterns, you are displaying.
>>93397914oh the board stall was so long because of kenkus i decked LMAOwhat a shit game
>>93397924power creep has fucked pauper, this game is a joke
>>93397921Griselbrand is only good in decks that facilitate Griselbrand's use, just as TC is only good in decks that facilitate TC's use. Other cards are objectively broken as shit and need to be banned because they irrevocably obliterate the format. TC isn't a game-breaking card; it just WORKS in Phoenix.
>>93397913Yeah, the Collecting articles are sometimes very good and sometimes not, I assume it's just based on whoever they paid for it. Blame the layoffs.
>>93397872
>>93397939>Griselbrand is only good in decks that facilitate Griselbrand's use, just as TC is only good in decks that facilitate TC's useWow you figured it out.>Other cards are objectively broken as shit and need to be banned because they irrevocably obliterate the format.Ah yes, Treasure Cruise. A card that is absolutely not broken like all those cards that are legal in Modern, Legacy and Vintage. Now those, THOSE are problem cards!
>>93397954I wouldn't be shocked in ChatGPT was involved.
>>93397956Why are you talking about other formats when we're talking about Pioneer? Oh, that's right, you lost the argument, and you're hoping I'm a retarded faggot who won't notice your logical fallacy. Joke's on you, I'm NOT retarded. I accept your concession.
>>93397909If it is, Phoenix is also the deck they are balancing the format around so they are not going to kill it, or even hit it hard. Prankster goes, TC is worst and the new broken shit catches everyone's eye(Greasefang, Amalia effect) until they get bored and go back to Phoenix because it's still strong.
>>93397971>Why are you talking about other formatsBecause being banned in every eternal format is indicative of a card being a problem.>Oh, that's right, you lost the argumentPfaahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahfhahaha fucking hell you're retarded
>>93397983Ad hom, no arguments, unbelievably assblasted over a card that doesn't define Pioneer, and even though you're still being mean to me for no good reason, I forgive you (I accept your concession).
>>93397978>until they get bored and go back to Phoenix because it's still strong.It's literally just Treasure Cruise ruining the format.i would love for Pioneer to have unusual brews flourish, but they're leaving one of the most broken cards ever printed to suppress potential meta variety. The trio of Phoenix, Amalia, Vampires makes it basically impossible for interesting decks to be played. The entire meta is just those three decks and "How do I not die to these three decks"
>>93397983Anon its rude to harass the mentally retarded, stop hastling that poor creature
>>93397993>no arguments,>Because being banned in every eternal format is indicative of a card being a problem
>>93398006Tell me how Modern's card pool affects Pioneer. You can't, because you have no arguments, and you can only resort to reddit maymay arrows and spinster twitter cat pics. Again, I ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION.
>Some people here defend Treasure Cruise>Some people here believe WotC will ban something in AugustSeriously anons?
>>93398000You just outed yourself as an Explorer only fag, no more engagement from my part is needed.
>>93398012>Tell me how Modern's card pool affects Pioneer. You can'tI never said they did.Non sequitur is a fallacy too, and a far worse one than calling someone a retard.At least calling you retarded gets to the heart of the issue.
>>93398022No you dingus, you're not getting it. Treasure Cruise is banned in Modern because Modern's card pool made it viable in every deck running blue. TC is run in only one deck in Pioneer because Pioneer's card pool doesn't let it be abused. If TC were a broken card, then you would be seeing it in every Pioneer deck running blue. You don't, because it's not broken. You can stop posting at any time, and I encourage you to, since I've already accepted your concession.
>>93398027>TC is run in only one deck in Pioneer because Pioneer's card pool doesn't let it be abused.It's run in many decks. Dimir Proft's, non-Phoenix drakes among them.And to assert that the raw number of decks a card is run in somehow is the marker of how broken a card is, suggests you are very, very stupid. A card can be in one deck and ruin the entire meta from just that single deck.
>>93398027You are a fucking retard if you believe a card must be played in every deck with such colours to be broken anon, not every fucking deck with Black plays Amalia, not every fucking deck with Red plays Kumano, not every fucking deck with White plays Emperor and you know what? They are all wrong cards
>>93398042>>93398058A card that is its own wincon so it's the only deck that's run is broken, yes. That's why Amalia should be banned, and Vein Ripper. What's Treasure Cruise's win-con? How does it win? How does it beat Vampires? Or PUMPING LOVELY AMALIA'S PUSS (PLAP)? It doesn't, dingus. Also,>proftWhat, did you get that off a YT video that cherry-picked wins? It doesn't matter if you respond both on your computer and on your phone, you're wrong, and I accept your concession.
>>93398027this anon is stupid and his logic is retarded, please accept his mental status and don't engage the mentally disabled...
>>93398064>"Only wincons are banworthy."Expressive Iteration is banned and it is literally orders of magnitude worse than Treasure Cruise.OuaT. Underworld Breach. Wilderness Rec. Veil of Summer. Nexus of Fate. Now fuck off.
>Explorer is like Pioneer you guys, it really is just a few cards away!
>>93398064Amalia is only broken because WALKER EXIST RETARD is not it's own wincon you absolute faggotSame with Cruise the fucking card is fucking Insane alongside the birds on Izzet are you seriously normal?Vein Ripper is broken because of Sorin too, the card would be not even playable without the PW. You even understand how fucking combos work? You even play Pioneer?
>>93398079And how many decks ran Expressive Iteration when it wasn't banned, dingus? I accept your concession.>>93398082Why would I play Pioneer? It's a shit format.
>>93397233Kaya would solo it
>>93398086>Why would I play Pioneer?>I will talk about shit i don't know because i feel entitled tooPlease Kys and keep playing Memedern ABSOLUTE RETARD, you belong with Nadu and UB slops clearly, garbage
>Why would I play Pioneer? It's a shit format.
Don't bully the exploretard please. He is trying his best.
>>93397395I'm peeking my head back in after not playing for quite a few years and these cards are just insane to me
Play IngraMake Food Great AgainStart the Experiments with BG Food
>>93398153Same
>>93398159I mean I'm just gonna play the deck in standard>4x camellia>4x ygra>free sac outlet>something that pings on creature/artifact death or token creation
>>93398206no chance in Pioneer? with green you have pick your poison, with black fatal push, and gy hate is easy
>>93398215>no chance in Pioneer?I'm sure there is, I'm just not interested in playing it there, I played A LOT of rakdos sac when it was popular, I'm kinda done with the cat oven play patterns
>>93394793>FEMALES
>>93394755People don't understand that Maro's job is just to make up a convincing-sounding excuse for whatever WotC/Hasbro is doing right now. If they pivot, he'll have a new excuse arguing the exact opposite position if that's what's required of him. He is a company man through and through.
>>93397340Yeah you kinda do. Just a few of the components that no longer exist the might and weak stones in Urzas head, Ramos the dragon engine's bones, Gerrard and his pendant, as well as 3 seperate Thran artifacts. There's literally no way to recover or remake these things. Even just recreating 1 than relic the Sylex and making work was almost impossible for thr current planeswalkers
>>93398300Which kind of convincing-sounding excuse can Mark pull out of his cavernous anus to justify a no ban or even a no Nadu ban in August? And please i dare you, i double dare you, Mark to repeat the "we are monitoring the formats"
>>93395745I like it.
>>93398159Dibs for cmdr
>>93398388He doesn't really ever talk about bans or balance all that much, that's not his area. At best he'll just say "the people responsible for it felt it was fine".
White should be secondary in looting. Not saying connive set a precedent but it would fit perfectly and help alleviate its card draw problem.
>>93398432Fuck this card is such a color pie break it's insane
>>93398447The color pie is just a meme at this point.
>>93398447Don't care, it's the glue that hold Pauper white weenie together.
>>93398477Blue weenie pretending to be white.
Bros if I go to a FMN will I find normal people? I used to go 8ish years ago and people were generally pretty cool outside of a weirdo or two
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>>93398648>Other (6)>Lists 10 deckswhat did they mean by this
>>93398658It doesn't list any of them. Are you retarded?
>>93398159
>youtube video about a new card>its slotted as a 3x/4x in an already solid shell>the guy playing casts it maybe twice in an entire league
>>93398739HELLO YOUTUBE, TOOOOODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TESTING OUT THIS SUUUUPER UNDERRATED CARD FROM THE NEW SET.
Return to Bloomburrow(RTB) waiting room
>>93398754I too look forward to 2028, when Pioneer 2 will be announced
>>93399030we'll be at pioneer 3 by then stupid
>>93398754The fastest return ever was Eldraine and that was still 4 years apart, so you'll be waiting a bit.
What's the name of that card with the really bad collage style art where it looks like Jerma985 wearing a robe?
>>93399055Faithless Looting
>>93399071Oh yeah, looking at it makes me laugh.
>>93398658The Other (6) refers to ones that Goldfish hasn't classified yet for some reason. At the moment that means a mix of WG Cloudpost, (R)G Eldrazi and BUG Midrange, and probably some others I'm forgetting
>>93399079I can't believe how technically impressive it is while being so aesthetically repulsive.
>>93399040nuh uhog modern's card pool was 2003 to 2011og pioneer's card pool was 2012 to 2019pioneer 2 will start somewhere around 2021~2022pioneer 3 will not be a thing until the late 2030s
>>93399084Isn't that most modern MTG art from your average calarts grad artist?Like I can go back and look at the pre 2014 decks for hours, especially hand drawn ones.
>>93399100Yeah but the ability to make pure paint look like a collage of art mediums is really impressive in a way you don't normally see.
>>93399105That would require patience and care, something they lack. I could bang on about your average liberal MTG card artist but i'd be here all day. The art gets very slowly worse over time, it is known.
>>93399119>That would require patience and careTo be clear, Faithless Looting is a painting. The artist succeeded in making paint look like a collage of different mediums. She just made it an ugly collage.
>>93399128>uglyGod, some artists it almost feel like they do it intentionally. Can't make characters too pretty, they might get jealous of their own work.
This is NOT okay
>>93399207kino deck
>>93397849You have a shriveled husk of a soul that can't feel the little joys of life
>>93399207Bros how do I make kitchen table phoenix? With bolts and flooting and all the busted ass stuff?
>>93399247https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pauper-izzet-faeries:^)
>>93399243>4um user thinks he has a soul
Which Color player stinks the most?
>>93396326Pretty sure you are, xister.Reminder literal actual trannies are on the banned and restricted team and have monetary incentive from Hasbro xerselves to keep boooooster packs selling and secret lairs.
>>93397849You're losing it over literal draft filler, did you want x random card to all be extremely serious majestic creatures when it's going to get more use being proxy backings over anyone actually playing this card irl
>>93399294>literal tranniesA..Anon. It's a Modern Card Game. Much like Tabletop Games, trannies infest both and consider it "their domain". Being surprised at them is like going into an abandoned building and being surprised there is graffiti.
>>93394755Same logic even if I hate unset trash
>>93395042chuds don't have friends
>>93399302I didnt say it was rational Just the straw that broke the camels back
>>93395174Why do you bait?pic unrel
>>93399370Everyone?
>>93399376Except for straight, white males, of course, but they're not really "people" if you know what I mean.
>>93399243I like good mtg art though, it still brings me childlike joy looking through my cards. I get it things change, silly cards existed forever and it is what it is but it just seems so on the nose. Im not financially supporting the game anyway and if this is what the game boils down to id hate it but I cant stop it either.
>>93399382I swear to god nothing gets my blood boiling like "chudhammer" vs "wokehammer" nonsense. Both sides act like they are the silent majority when both aren't.
>>93396037This. No sex no work.
>>93396065Me on the left
>>93399398The beautiful thing about Warhammer is, just like MTG, you can just print your own official materials and choose whatever headcanon you want. Anyone who supports any official release of anything in this day and age and gets angry about things outside of their control must live very cushy lives where things like comic books and tabletop/video games take priority over anything else.
>>93399398somebody has to be the majority exacy 50:50 split is statistically unlikely
>>93399404Reminds me of all the thousands of people using proxies and playing nothing but Commander and plays nothing but Red Deck. Simple joy.
>>93399404Thats true of WH but not MTG
>>93396211Nobody liked that, either.
>>93399416MaRo fears the autistic proxy printer
>>93399462I mean shit I do that but I only play so often at my placeIm forced to play at LGSs mostly, I might just quit going to them honestly, I played in a pod today with these two guys hitting on the same girl by trying to one-up eachother over how many phobias and medications they were on
>>93399500Id rather people talk about phobias than have becky the blue haired autistic non binary shiteater.
>>93399505Who do you think they were hitting on?A nornal, well adjusted feminine woman? Lmao no everyone is a freak these days
Arenabab here, thinking about going to my first pre-release this week. What's typically in a promo pack that differentiates it from a play booster?
>>93399566It's a curated list that varies by set. They aren't part of the draft so you don't need to worry about it too much. https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Universal_promo_pack/Curated_list
>>93396736Why would you be excited for "broken shit"? That is exactly why the game turned into Yu-Gi-Oh! 2.0.
>>93396736for me, it's this guy
>>93399566Have fun bro, it's the first day nobody will know how to draft either, so have fun reading all the new cards
>>93399698What are the expectations for this card?
>>93399764Weeeeeeeeee
>>93399764combos with jace in standard, the question is figuring out what the rest of the deck looks like to support it, UB control is losing a lot with rotation
>>93399398>le superior moderate (actually muddying the water)pic VERY unrelated
>>93399824Look if you pretend to be moderate you get access to both spaces and both spaces have worthwhile things in them. It just has creeps and weirdos too.
>>93399823Insatiable Avarice should ensure opponent decks out before you do, most mill or forced draw for 3+ should do
>>93399405Or they're both the minority
>>93399764Some kind of degenerate combo, I'm sure.
Hey look, for $30 you can get two in-real-life booster boxes. Quite a bargain!Of course, you do have to win 6 matches in a row of best-of-1 sealed format. But that's just a formality. You ARE good at this game, right?
>>93400370Damn, that looks fun as fuck. I do wish there was some consolation prizes so that it would encourage weaker players to join for the free wins
>>93400405Well people who lose still get to keep the 6 boosters they opened for their sealed pool, and people who only go 4-5 wins get some money back on top of that.But mostly I think you can count on weak players to overestimate their skill and be tempted by those free boxes
>>93400370Jesus you need at least 4 wins just for the fun bucks
>>93400418Is 4 wins before 2 losses a big ask? Maybe if you're dogshit
>>93400370>sealedLiterally a pure RNG format, winning comes down to getting good luck before you're even allowed to build a deck, let alone play.
>>93400370My buddy already won a box of MH3 the last time they did this. Going to draft that soon.
>>93400370Considering I got both the FIAB and the MH3 boxes on my first try, I'd say so.
>>93400441dogshit here, at least give a reward at three wins that's my pipe dream every fnm
>>93394472Want to make a 5 deck suite of pauper decks for each colorGot Blue delver, black zombies, red burn, green elves so far. What should i do for white? weenies? tokens? heroic? don't really play white.
>throes of chaos into tibalts trickery>gets emergent ultimatum>reveals time warp, alrund's epiphany and nexus of fate
>>93400935White Weenie is the best mono-white deck right now, recently won a challenge and has been putting up pretty consistent results in leagues.
Are there too many formats?
>>93401019>>>93401019fucking arena lmaoI can't even tell you what half of those are without looking them upwhat the fuck is traditional or artisan or gladiator or okos madness and why are there multiple momirI know what alchemy is and fuck that
>>93401019Fuck is JUMP IN and Rainbow Stairwell?
>>93400993I should note i'm wanting to make them somewhat sub optimally as sort of a "tribute" to classic pauper cards (AKA delver using stuff like augur of bolas which nobody has used in a LONG time due to the serpents taking over) So i likely won't be using many newer cardsHave them around to take out like a suite to play casually with friends you know? That being said would weenie still be a good choice?
>>93401042>>93400935I just realized on a side note i need to do Black devotion instead of zombies, thats way more classic.
>>93401037jump in is a janky limited format kinda of like cube where you get handed preconstructed packs within the colors you pick, to make a deck and get to keep the cards, designed so new players can play a format without a collection while building a cardpool at a rate generally better than cracking packs / drafting at the cost of sticking you into the precon decks they give you. And importantly you only pay for the cards, not rewards for winning which is almost zero (5% chance to get a rare after 1 win, otherwise an uncommon, and that's your whole prize after 1 win). It usually pegs you hard into aggro and never gives you copies of meta control rare spells like sweepers or counters. Worse value proposition once your collection is decent and you're building meta decks or jank brewsthe rest of the cards are chaff but you get 2 rares for 1000 gold which is more up front value than the more deckbuilding targeted value of wildcards / wildcard progress in regular packs
>>93400370>You ARE good at this game, right?If it were draft we'd be talking but I haven't gotten a good Sealed pool since I went to the Future Sight prerelease.
>it's not a mythicThanks, I already hate blb limited
>>93401019>Arena>Paper>That difference in formatsWotC are faggots
>>93401042>That being said would weenie still be a good choice?A lot of the stuff that makes Weenies function are new cards printed in the last couple years. If you want a more "classic" white deck, Mono-White Heroic might be the better fit for what you're envisioning.
>>93400414Ohhhhh, okay I completely misunderstood then. I figured it would be only for the most confident players around. That makes a lot of sense then, if I played online I'd give it a go
>>93398528Depends on where you live obviously.
>>93401284>A lot of the stuff that makes Weenies function are new cards printed in the last couple years.Such as?That 3/1 from Rohan who can die to naturalize is pretty good, but what else? The basic identity of white weenies is to run good attackers and get in under the usual curve while also having efficient removal and disruption, how has that changed in the last few years? IMO the biggest change was like 10 years ago when "human tribal" basically supplanted the role of white weanies.
Free her.
>>93401125Rare boardwipes have been a thing in Limited since 4th Edition, anon...
>>93401890Free her. Free Lurrus.Free Field of the Death.Free T3feri.Let everything burn.
>>93401032>>93401172I'm pretty sure those are just midweek magic events. So not real formats.
>>93401968This, except Teferi and Field. And Balustrade Spy. And Fetchlands. And Iteration. And Karn. And Oko. And NoF. And Undercity Informer.Rest is fine. Actually Uro is not fine.
>>93401951Just like sunfall, this is a board wipe that leaves you with a creature you nigger
>>93402075Lotus fag here. Don't unban Uro, it makes the deck so much better and it's ok the way it is.
>LGS has 0 booked into the pre-release>next closest LGS has 4 people booked into the pre-releaseThere is no MTG scene here.
>>93401951nta BUTSunfall makes an artifact, which is kind of different in it's own right, and becomes a creature at instant speed, that is relevant as well. It doesn't draw opp a card on top of exiling. Regen hasn't been a thing in forever (should but what can you do) but the other factors are considerable.
>>93402075How fucked up would be to unban inverter of truth and walking ballista?
>>93402452Ballista breaks the format, if only for Soul Cauldron. Inverter and Thoracle do the same.
>>93401890Pioneer is a format for old standard decks :)
>>93402489Lol, this is either really convincing trolling or the most idiotic cope I've ever read
>>93402544It's satire, irony, paraphrasing wotc's words. Winota was a standard deck after all.
>>93402610>>93402610>>93402610migrate
>>93402432Sometimes the regional variation in the MTG scene is hard to understand, I live in a small city and my LGS always does 5 prerelease events over the weekend and they're all usually full two weeks in advance.
>>93395745>collective>disruptive>punk, underground>"spirit of subculture">"sits in the space between people"Actual communist bullshit. Someone go revive McCarthy, his services are needed.
>>93403252It's just plain marketing, all of that is just buzzwords that appeal to the people that consume their products, that's all there is to it.
