Stormtroopers Edition >Codex: Imperial Agents Incominghttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/07/22/codex-imperial-agents-unleash-the-might-of-the-emperors-inquisition/>Balance Dataslate:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/20/warhammer-40000-metawatch-downloading-the-new-balance-dataslate/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTL>Previous Thread:>Thread Question:Why do you like your faction? It's not a fetish thing, right?Previous Thread >>93443670
Hope the jannies delete this thread as well.
second for IMPERIAL GUARD holding the line>TQthey HOLD THE LINE
>TQI dont really like csm, but I like traitor guard, and cultists, and everything chaos thats not in power armor.
>>93447303finally an imperial guard thread
For retaliation cadre, is two crisis suit squads + broadside kenough? Or do I want 3? I currently have the battlebox, a coldstar, and a pathfinder box, I'm looking at buying another commander (going enforcer), a crisis suit, and a broadside, but I dunno if it's better to just stack 3 crisis suits and forget the broadside or what. 2 broadsides + a commander would a little more expensive and I'm trying to optimize how much I spend with how much I already have.
>>93447303>Why do you like your faction? It's not a fetish thing, right?>EldarSpace wizard ninja elves with psychic armor. It is a little bit of a fetish thing>Word BearersUnabashed and unashamed bad guys who serve Chaos and revel in it.
>>93447431>spoilered text
>>93447456erm ackshually there's an episode of dildos and fuckshots on WH+ that says this photo isn't canon
MAKE DIRE AVENGERS TROOPS CHOICES YOU FECKLESS WHORES
>>93447303>Why do you like your faction? It's not a fetish thing, right?no of course not
How far into the hobby were you when you realized using paint right out of the pot was a noob move?
>>93447500I never buy citadel so day 1
>>93447303>TQIT'S NOT A PHASE, MOM!
>>93447303I really enjoy building and ramshackle stuff is fun and flavorful
>>93447350Based.
>>93447486Bad
>>93447541did you fuck up on its claws, also I cant imagine building that can be fun.
>>93447303>TQI like them because they're evil, and all their lore is just super intense by because of their nature
New Space marine lore just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfsTwxRkJ3s
>>93447385Broadsides don't really benefit from cadre, they're not going to be making use of the army rule nor any of the strats. It's more or less Crisis o'clock, that's the reason to even run the detachment
>>93447567Idk if I'd go so far as calling ultramarines evil, but I see where you are coming from
>>93447303Because I love heavily armored infantry and power armor.
>>93447550recast so it was broke when I got it. It is actually very few pieces. I'm happy with the final results
>>93447625
>>93447603Alright, is it better to have one of each crisis suit or should I be doubling up?
>>93447629>>93447625I also hated the side platforms so I built new ones
>>93447630Sunforge with the Coldstar to get into Melta, Fireknife is better after that unless you're running Farsight who can make Starscythe quite dangerous
Awoo with me sisters!
>>93447550NTA, but it's easy as hell to assemble. The body is one solid part, with the head+tusks+tail being the only separate bits. The howdah is a few more pieces. I'd say painting it is more of a pain in the ass than assembling it simply due to the weight of the fucker. Not pictured: the gargantuan squiggoth that I've owned for 5 years that still needs to have it's paint job finished.
Could it be done?
I like the Eldar for how fleshed out they are.They can be written as basically human or completly alien. I feel GW drops the ball when trying to write them as a tragic story tho. Also I don't like non-space eleves.
>>93447739I don't think a Space Marine would become a tranny no, they're like castrated and don't seek sexual gratification, so there's no AGP within their ranks.
>>93447739Of course it COULD. All it would take is ADB to shit out some abortion of a story approved by some suits to have it done. The real question is SHOULD is be done, and the answer is obviously no.
Female space marines should have gigantism and hard features like males but of course they will be cute and fappable instead
Do you believe the rumor that Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Space Wolves will all get their big update this edition? It seems a bit unlikely to me, what will they do in 11th Edition?
>>93447739Best way is a classic codex snippet that doesn't answer anything. Like a post battle scene where a guardsmen gets beat to death by his squad while swearing one of the blood angels was a fem marine. Grogs have plausible deniability and femoids get a continuous shitwar.
>>93447303>stormtrooper thread>posts scionsLmoa, the copeium is strong with guard players.
>>93447739second most masculine ultramarine right there (titus and malcum caedo tied for first place)
>>93447807>faggot
>>93447772
>>93447776Didn't the DA just get a rules update or am I misremembering?
>>93447772>but of course they will be cute and fappable insteadAre we talking about GW sculpts here? The Sisters all look like trannies, what would possibly make you believe this?
>>93447831Dark Angels got their update last year. Valrak is saying Blood Angels later this year, maybe as early as September, and Space Wolves before the end of this Edition. He called the Scions vs Vespid box like a year ago, so his rumors aren't total bullshit
>>93447843Imperial Fists after that right? Right?
>>93447848black templars already got theirs, so no
>>93447848>codex compliantLol no
>>93447848
I like GSC cuz they are underdogs throwing bodies at the enemy to stall enough so that they can secure an objective.I like space marine cuz they are hyper elite one-man-armies that can be any flavor of reverent and noble warrior to blood-crazed savage.
>TQSpace Dwarfs are just neat I guess. Just finished a batch of hearthguard and pretty happy with how they came out.
>>93447848a new upgrade kit on par with what BT and DA got would be pretty sweet, and I don't think that's out of the question. But if you're expecting unique IF units, haha
>>93447862Nice off-white, man. Bet those look cool on the tabletop
>>93447548just admit it, you'd have sex with a tyranid too
>>93447303they're the only completely unobjectionable faction that never did anything wrong. And they're friends with giant robots.
>>93447862I feel like they would look less shit if they were painted traditional dwarf colors, like Steel, Silver and Gold. Not your models really, just the squat models in general
Can I get away with proxying the Blackstone Fortress named Kroot character ad a generic Kroot Trail Shaper?
>>93447875i want to repeatedly thrust my bayonet into its vital parts if that counts
>>93447866For me it was always the Ultramarines, Blood Angels and Imperial Fists as the face of the Space Marines since I started off with the Space Crusade tabletop.Always makes me sad that Blood Angels and Ultramarines developed nicely since them with their own designs and iconography and fluff and Imperial Fists were left in the dust.There's something nice about the simplicity of primary colors and grit of WH40k
>>93447875No
>>93447906Ages ago I heard a rumor that Centurions were originally designed as a unique Imperial Fists unit. Which makes perfect sense, they're literally walls.
>>93447303TQ - I like how the models look and they aren't very hard to paint.
>>93447900>get away withgod some people are so pussy whipped, it's literally the same guy, you don't need daddy's permission.
>>93447900Is this a joke? Obviously not
>>93447928The BF Kroot has Legends rules, won't that cause confusion?
>>93448009not if it's the only model you're runningjust go "oh I'm proxying him for X model" when discussing lists
>>93448009Nobody is going to even notice in the first place to get confused
>>93448018I was thinking of fancying up the free Kroot Carnivore GW stores gave out this month as a Trail Shaper too, putting one of the fancy Fastalker heads on him and loading him down with extra gear from the Carnivore kit. That way I'd have three Trail Shapers, (BF Kroot, gussied up Carnivore, and the actual Trail Shaper kit) but they'd all look unique. The wargear is the same across them, so they would be WYSIWYG.
>>93447625looks cool anon, very nice
>>93447765the emperor's children became fucked up because they had no dicks?
>>93448009no one will notice, but if they do, call them a faggot
>>93448083I don't use that word. Except in bed, where it's kinda hot.
>>93448090as much as you don't want to, it is an essential part of the hobby anon.
>>93447303I've always liked dwarves and science fiction. When I first started playing the squats were long gone and Votann brought back Space Dwarves with strong norse mythology references.I know there's people here who hate them, but I thoroughly enjoy Votann's aesthetics and think they fit into the setting better than Tau or Tyranids.
>>93447900I play with people who proxy whole armies.
>>93448131Cool sculpts.
Are Tau fun right now? I'm interested in a combined arms style of army and Tau look lioe the ones for that
>>93448190Yeah my usual opponent is tau and he has a great variety of units to play with including his colonial kroot troops
>>93447906IF generally get ignored because their successor chapter is cooler.
>>93448131Man, that kit needs to come out as a separate box already. Been dying to add them to my diggers but I can't be fucked buying them for ebay highway robbery prices.
>>93447660So sunforge with coldstar, 2 fireknifes? Is farsight better than getting an enforcer? So I could go farsight + starscythe, coldstar + sunforge, then fire knife on it's own?
WIP for tonight, calling it a night. Got some more ultras in the works and I just finished building a warboss and a trukk I printed off. Gonna paint those after this batch of Boyz.Not sure if I want to run that warboss as a regular warboss or a warboss in mega-armor. He's got the size to be either so I might just run him as both when I see fit.
>>93448318The truck looks awesomeHere's my WIP on the avatar.Blue looks a little weird but I'm going to use some transfers and freehand some white patterns so hopefully it's good on the end.
>>93448369I think the blue just needs a highlight alongside a wash if you haven't washed it already. Looking good though, anon.What kind of base do you plan to give him?
Is an Eldar melee army viable? One that uses Scorpions and Banshees? Or would I be stuck using Wraithblades yet again?
>>93448389Do a full shining spears army. Not technically melee tho
>>93448389Yeah avatar of khaine is really good.Scorpions are cheap so you can bring 3 units, but they are mostly just screen unless you include their Phoenix lord.Banshees can do work, they are counter charge units.Don't count on stormguardians to be melee, they are for sticky objectives and invuln chaff with special guns.You will probably want axe wraiths they are probably the best melee after Khaine.Wraithlord is kind of meh hitting on 4s, but can be a good thematic option still with his sword and flamers
>>93448242They're slow with everything right now, but yeah, they need to release them individually. They make me want to try Kill Team as I have the Hearthkyn team built/painted too.
>>93448389Banshees are a literal waste of points and a failure of a unit.
>>93447303For me, dwarves were always a favorite race in various settings, when the Votann initially were previewed I had my reservations but grew to like them for their overall aesthetic reflecting older space exploration themes I saw in a lot of media growing up (bubble domes/wheels for vehicles, curved helmets etc). To me it fits the lore approach that the Votann have, being a bygone industrial relic of humanity in the form of an entire vat grown labor race, now entirely focused on expanding their own material wealth. They also were the faction that I decided to use to push my painting further (more difficult color choice in the yellow, painting faces, using more complicated bases etc) because I felt I was getting a bit sloppy/lazy
>>93448386I'm trying to do a jungle with ruins vibe, the elf ruins will be sand coloured, dark earth with moss and grass tufts and some leaf litter on the ground.I'm sort of thinking Yavin 4 if possible
>>93447303Why is he undivided and not Slaaneshi?
>>93448471The problem is that the overall design is very un-wh40k. It doesn't have that "extreme" edge to it. It just looks benign and oval. Everything is rounded, everything like a child's toy.The way I'd deal with the Votann is keep the lore the same (I like their faction conceptually) but the visuals need to be more exaggerated. The armor pieces and designs more angular, more "anvil" like. Sharp edges, square and polygonal surfaces. Oversized mismatched pieces. Something that maybe conveys they are both tinkerers (a lot of mismatched parts) and also oversized parts as well.And maybe they should've went all in with the AI thing and have more robots. Have some gimmick where they need to feed orders back to their ship AI and then the AI runs the robots for them so they're all strong, but have a communications handicap or something... some specific gimmick.Also they should be technologically ahead of every other faction and that should be their gimmick as well. basically an intermediary step between the Imperium and the Necron.
>>93447900Im pretty sure this isn't bait, which makes me sad for the future.
>>93447815aww, he tried.
>>93448369Advice for the blue fabric: use a more de-saturated color. Take whatever blue you used, and mix it with a bit of grey or beige. That'll make it look more like cloth, rather than vinyl/plastic.
>>93448669Thanks, I'll do this tomorrow
>take waacfag list>swap in one pet suboptimal unitit's gaming time
>>93448471Looks fucking great I did the same thing with Sisters as far as pushing myself to paint faces If I still played with randos I would love to throw dice against your space dwarves
>>93448712Which unit?
>>93448471Is that 20 Hearthguard? Absolute madman.
>>93448471only squats player in existence
>>93448750There's plenty of Squat players out there. None of them would ever use Votanus minis though, if that's what you're implying. That guy is the only Votanus player I'm aware of.
>>93448739Vertus PraetorsI just like the models
so black and yellow are the hardest colors to paint supposedly?
>>93448609>The problem is that the overall design is very un-wh40k. It doesn't have that "extreme" edge to it. It just looks benign and oval. Everything is rounded, everything like a child's toy.
>>93448808tau have been a part of 40k for longer than they haven't, this isn't remotely applicable :^)
>>93448800yellow, orange, white and red are the trickiest paints for a beginnerblack is easy to make look decently acceptable but it takes skill to make it look really good and an understanding that you almost never paint pure black as a basecoat, same with white
>>93448815>The problem is that the overall design is very un-wh40k. It doesn't have that "extreme" edge to it. It just looks benign and oval. Everything is rounded, everything like a child's toy.
>>93448808But you see anon, Tau are old now, so they're good. Votann are new, so they're bad. Get it right - if it didn't exist when anons got into the hobby, it's bad.
>>93447739No. Being converted into a space marine would make a born female into a transsexual male because it is basically a male to gigachad transition.
>>93448829Not him but that's probably not the best example considering how much people also bitch about 40k admech designs being shit compared to their 30k counterparts.
>>93448829>>93448815>>93448808>The problem is that the overall design is very un-wh40k. It doesn't have that "extreme" edge to it. It just looks benign and oval. Everything is rounded, everything like a child's toy.
>>93448800I wouldn't say either of them are particularly difficult if you have the right workflow. I think it'd be more correct to say black and yellow require a unique set of steps that aren't just basecoat, shade, highlight
>>93448848space marines just shouldn't have means of mobility at all.
Look what you didnow the votannfag's gonna spam pictures of primaris for the entire thread like last time
>>93448858No I'm not. Just until anon admits he's wrong.
>>93448829Yes, that is 7th Edition trash that was mocked when it was released too for the same reasons.
>>93448829>>93448848>>93448808yeah and all those sucks too
>>93448848Why couldn't they have just done a rescaling of space marines like they did with chaos? If you want to play your old tacticals, just put them on bigger bases.
>>93448704No problem. Also, if you're looking at the new color after mixing and thinking "this is far enough," it probably isn't. You can mix in quite a bit of grey or beige*, and still have a blue fabric "look blue." The Avatar already has lots of vivid color, so it'll look better being offset by something a bit more subdued.*your choice, though I'd recommend something on the lighter side
>>93448876Because MKVI and MKVII look like shit.
>>93448848>>93448829>>93448808>The problem is that the overall design is very un-wh40k. It doesn't have that "extreme" edge to it. It just looks benign and oval. Everything is rounded, everything like a child's toy. Last example I swear.
>>93448887> hating beakiesShit taste.
>>93448902Didn't ask, redditor
>>93448905we don't sign our posts here
>>93448911>n-no uFirstbornfags aren't sending their brightest tonight.
>>93448876Tactical are retarded looking squatting trash, you just have rose tinted glasses for the stuff that was around when you got into the game
An Iron Hand with hair; can it work /tg/?
>>93448905Look at these pieces of shit. It's worse than giant pauldrons. A tactical marine with an ammo belt going into his backpack with a hand-held heavy weapon looks way better. All they had to do was rescale the MKVII to more correct proportions.
>>93448921Still looks better than MKVII, had they kept the shit firstborn limitations you'd be getting more and more slop like centurions instead :^)
>>93448920Not very loreful imo. Iron hands are al about practicality to extremity. They wouldn't care about hair.
>>93448920Top knots look ass so your answer is no
>>93448925Oh well, I saw it on my night lords sprue and thought hey this would be fuckin funny
>>93448920>moldlines fucking everywhereJesus christ anon what are you doing
>>93448931>MoldlinesNot my problem, I just paint over them
>>93448918You don't have reading comprehension. They just rescale MKVI and VII to primaris proportions like they did with chaos and don't say anything. Or even release a new MK of power armor along with it. There was no reason to make a whole new line of space marines, lore wise. Just have Belisarius Cawl make better armor and guns and have Guilliman say he's revising the codex astartes.
>>93448808I never liked Tau and I still don't. All these years and they still don't feel properly integrated and they're entirely directionless.It's always "OH and also Tau did this as well and fought off the badguys on their own and they're okay, thank you for asking ... so .. h-how are you?"It's like they exist in some side pocket non-canon universe just so they can play pretend with their toys and the writers allow them to win whatever they need to win unimpeded
>>93448808Tau are widely-disliked for being out of place in 40k because they're sci-fi. I see them as ok as they're the exception, even if I don't personally care for them.>>93448829These are robutts from the Dark Age of Technology, and as such should look out-of-place in the 41st Millennium.>>93448848These are pure shit, along with all Primaris. You're not making any point with this one.>>93448896Also pure shit.
>>93448937>Not my problem, I just paint over themThat's a lot of words to type when yoh could've just said "All my models are ass"
>>93448941I don't read pointless seething of those with bad taste. Also the lore is gay and the worst part of the whole hobby, if you care that much about anything in the lore it's a sign of being on the spectrum
>>93448958>another nomodels larper Need to remember never to try and have genuine discussions on anything aesthetic on /40kg/ anymore, so many tourists who have nothing else going for them but pretending to be contrarian to whatever's being currently discussed
>>93448929What's the joke, I don't get why it's funny
>>93448958>Tau are widely-disliked for being out of place in 40k because they're sci-fi.Tau are MECH sci-fi though. Mechs are basically magic anyways so they still fit.
>>93448975you wouldnt get it anon
>>93448983>haha the funny man has a hairI have a feeling I wouldn't get it because it isn't a joke, it's just you being retarded
>>93448958Dios mio mucho seetho
giant ass fucking spider crawled on my foot while i was gluing an arm on and i sent my knee into the table at mach 12
>>93448982You're going to make me hate the tau even more than the blood angels man.
>>93448902>noooooo how could you not like le heckin beakarinooos
>>93448999calm down exoditefag
>>93448997If you're scared of bugs as an adult you should just get it over with and start painting your nails and wearing skirts lmaoo
>>93448921https://voca.ro/187tF9djGy1D
>>93449012Noone wants to listen to you get pegged by your local crossing guard. I ain't clicking that shit
>>93448958They should've leaned more on tribal aspects with various septs being like their own clans and there's internal competition, a form of forced evolution, all manipulated by the Ethereals. Have them present themselves as the altruistic do-gooders to everyone, but have it just be a manifest destiny for them to carry the savages into civilization. Their civilization. When some non-Tau species start to get too much power, oops, it appears you had space cp on your cogitator unit and you commited suicide by putting five pulse rounds to the back of your own head. Or a space freighter carrying spent reactor fuel happened to crash into your planet and now you need some foreign assistance. Let us send this other ally species that hates your guts, I'm sure it'll be fine and whatever happens, we did everything we could.They're too clean and the writers can't stop fellating how awesome they are, having surpasses every race on every field in a few thousand years. Even their failures are just steps on a path to greater goodness.
>>93449018>picked tau because they're manga styledand faggots will still try to say they're not the japanese faction
>>93449017But anon. You love gay porn!
>>93449018The Tau are in the same position the Emperor was when he was in the midst of the Great Crusade, it wouldn't make sense for them to be all dark and gritty, they're supposed to be the shining better alternative so that they can fall apart later. If everything is shit all the time, how is anything supposed to be a dark age?
>>93449023>projecting this hardLolLmao even
>>93449018>that kabuki facepaint in the blanche picfuck I'm tempted to do that for some HQs now
>>93449022They aren't though, they're indian
>>93449026They just need some sort of "grimdark" streak to them to effectively make them more interesting.Votann have the same problem. The lore is too sanitized and "friendly". imho it just doesn't fit the theme of the setting at all
>>93449044just kill yourself my man
>>93449045they have glowies and a mind controlled populace that'll collapse in on itself if their ruling class were to go away, that's grimdark enough
>>93449022They're about as japanese as the deatguard are.
>>93449062cope harder
>>93449051My point being that that kind of stuff should be further emphasized as the MAIN trait of their faction. That would properly fit.Instead they're kind of tap-dancing around the fact they're all similar to GSCswh40k is not about subtlety. Just have them OVERTLY be scummy in how their ruling caste works. it's just presented in such a milquetoast way
>>93449065You're the one who seems to have made an uninformed investment lmao.
>>93449026>The Tau are in the same position the Emperor was when he was in the midst of the Great CrusadeThe fuck they are. The Great Crusade was a clusterfuck, because the primarchs got gotten, and a lot of shit was just cobbled together as they went. Planets were bombed into submission, provinsial government was formed and the fleets moved on. That's why the Horus Heresy was so massive, because as order collapsed, local governments took it upon themselves to carve a piece of the pie for themselves. Tau spent thousands of years carving a just a tiny empire for themselves with established societies and unified goals.>all dark and grittyI didn't say all dark and gritty, now did I? Just not this "better than everyone at everything, but don't you worry, they're totally gonna fall hard real soon, but not really, they're actually showing everyone how logic and reason will conquer all, because they're the only people in the universe who tried that." Their AI doesn't go mad, their technology keeps improving, they're immune to Chaos, they can take out hive fleets without losses, they've mastered FTL without any inherent dangers, they get along with other races... Am I forgetting something?>they're supposed to be the shining better alternativeWhy? Who decided this? Who needed this?>how is anything supposed to be a dark age?I dunno, because that's literally the tagline of the fucking setting? Are CWE all dark and gritty, living their comfy lives in their artificial worlds and sometimes going to war?
>>93449071You're the only pathetically disingenuous faggot hereThey were literally conceived as the Japanese mecha faction, they carry around diamond pattern wrapped blades, their main HQ has cherry blossoms on his model and uses a vampire katana and they speak with stereotypical Japanese accents in every game they're portrayed inIn short kill yourself * 2
>>93449081Pakistan is japanese because they cherry blossoms now. Oh, and curved blades. Curved. Blades.>captcha-vamad
terminators
>>93449076>Why? Who decided this? Who needed this?The setting? If everything is shit, nothing is. You never go full grimdark. You go full grimdark that's how you get the Xeelee and nobody wants that.
>>93449018Don't disagree with any of that. Like I said, Tau aren't to my liking, but I can acknowledge they do fill a narrative role in the setting. They'd be better if they moved in a direction similar to what you laid out, while still retaining a "protagonist status.">>93449076>Are CWE all dark and gritty, living their comfy lives in their artificial worlds and sometimes going to war?Craftworlders are the grimdarkest™ faction in the setting (but GW just has shit writers).
>>93449120
>>93449124That's not what he's saying.
>>93449120Elder are grimderp. It's hard to take em seriously at all, the implication of their gods absence should have more consequence and yet its executed in hilliariously awful manners.
I like Night Lords because like they're schizo. I'm also schizo as well.
>>93449133writing xenos is extremely hard
>>93449114
>>93449137howcome the gay marines are the only ones that got new assault termies
>>93449124How was RT and 2e full grimdark, exactly? Why do you need to add a whole new faction to take all the noblebright, rather than adding it evenly across the setting?
>>93449140Blood angels haven't got anything yet
>>93449137wolf looks like a 'jak though
>>93449130Reposted because of a missing quote, but... You're missing the point. No matter how beautiful the Craftworlds are, they're in an unwinnable situation. Treading water in a sea full of monsters.
>>93449140What do you mean, Dark Angels have always been terminator heavy.
>>93449145man what? blood angels? dark angels are LITERALLY the homosexual legion
>>93449147So, how are Tau any different if, "they're supposed to be the shining better alternative so that they can fall apart later." By your own logic, Tau are full on grimdark, because it doesn't matter how great they're doing now, they'll end up in the same, unwinnable situation as everyone else.
>>93449135True. One way to deal with this is to have Eldar never be written about from an Eldar perspective.
>>93449159i liked the relationship that ravenor had with eldar in one of the bequin books
>>93449143It is pretty evenly distributed already between the Imperium, the Eldar, the Necrons, the Votann, and the Tau.
>>93449167Is your brain working alright?
>>93449155I'm not the anon who said that (I'm the one who was talking to that anon), but... the Tau (and humanity) are in a very different situation from the Eldar. The Tau have a future of possibilities before them. For the Eldar, it doesn't matter if they win every single battle; they still lose the long war.
>>93447303taurox is so fucking dumb and dumb looking holy shit
>>93449174>Most of the Eldar just want to be left alone and aside from the occasional scheme to keep their race alive won't engage in needless cruelty or imperialism>The Votann likewise mostly keep to themselves and aside from the occasional world harvested for resources (sometimes even evacuated first) don't really bother others>The Imperium has two primarchs back already and more ready to be awakened and they're mostly the good primarchs who acknowldge daddy's faults and try to make the Imperium a better place to live>The Necrons turn out to be pretty chill dudes who want to stop Chaos and can be worked with and even fought alongsideThe only way the Tau are less Grimdark than the Imperium is they don't kill all other species on sight, and even then there's this American-style imperialism to their actions where they use them as cannon fodder instead.
>>93449180Based on?
>>93449197All of this tells me that Orks are still the best, Tyranids are cool and chaos is lame
>>93449197>they use them as cannon fodder instead.Except they don't, they actually give leadership roles to their allies and actually value them. The worst they've done to the Kroot is hope they'd stop eating other creatures, but haven't actually placed any restrictions on it or their mercenary activities.
I have four full platoons of scions. I'm so ready for this book.
>>93449208I'll Start respecting tau when they give us the pancake bears and their giant kaiju titanic unit
Every faction is removed except Chaos Warbands and Traitor Legions. No cringe Primaris shit, no dumb xenos, no retarded chromatic demons or T10 towering spam. How absolutely kino would the game get?
>>93449220Lamehammer 2 1/2
>>93449211>The Tempestus Scions line is sadly being retired, please submit all your models at your local GW store to be melted down!>Don't worry, the new line of Tempestus Blions is here! Preorder your box for $65!
>>93449208The only people who make the distinction are the people who already like the Tau in the first place.
>>93449220>No cringe Primaris shitThere's no escape.
>>93449231>this is the future Tau lovers want
>>93449202[she-who-thirsts]
Hey Dark eldar players: What's a dark muse?
>>93449231>people who don't like the Tau make up shit about them
>>93449229Eh, it's be like the 5th army of mine to be squatted at this point.
>>93449236You mean the one-who's-about-to-get-got once the last Eldar dies and Ynnead is born? And Yvraine's seeking a way to awaken him without needing to sacrifice all the Eldar. Besides, even if they all died, it'd just be their bodies, their souls would live forever as part of Ynnead. And for the Eldar the souls is the important part.
>>93447381I've always appreciated how satisfying it is to paint green overtop of yellow
>>93449241Replacement gods for the ones that got eaten.
>>93449241any hip-hop artist>error: you are bannedlmao no
>>93449145
>>93449251I prefer to not acknowledge any 40k fiction written in the last, let's say... two decades.
>>93449232Well that's retarded I thought chaos would stay old marines to keep variety between the codexs
>>93449232>>93449220
>>93449280I'd be okay with ogryn space marine units as long as they're sufficiently stupid looking
>>93449272What about 40k fiction written 36 years ago?
>>93449330There's a difference between a vague far-off possibility, and something happening in the present (with literal avatars of Ynnead walking around, confirming the possibility).
>>93449355>"dude, it's grimdark because they're totes all gonna die to death!">what about [thing]>"that's just, like, rhetorical and/or nulore, unlike their confirmed, 100% canon, not subject to change, deaths!"I give up.
>>93448921Aggressors are cool.Centurions are trash and gravis is unironically the same concept but executed better.
>>93448902>reddit spacing>beakfagGo back.Beakies are trash and always will be.
>>93447772>>93447739>GW finally caves to the horde and releases female space marines.>They are not officially called "female space marines" though. GW has learned it's lesson from primaris and knows that they need to be bigger and better than space marines for them to sell.>instead they are officially called "Primammaries space marines"> The product of Fabius Bile ejaculating into one of his primaris space marine batches, the Primammaries space marine is taller, wider hipped (to accommodate the plus sized audience) has and a pair of massive Juggs filled with a high protein supermilk that has healing properties.>Their main function in the battlefield is to follow the apothecaries and save the injured that aren't unsavable by forcefully breastfeeding them and stoking their heads.>Equipped with a hypnotic voices similar to emperor's children screamers that lull the space marine into a state of relaxation so they can pull themselves together or alternatively yell at them so that they fight harder.Appeals to women and SJW typesAppeals to manchildrenAppeals to coomersHire me GW I know what the people want.
Is it worth it to buy and play Blackstone Fortress in 2024?
>>93449393
>>93447772>but of course they will be cute and fappable insteadThat'd be preferable.Former is pure faggot shit.
>>93449400kek.
>>93449393>Appeals to women and SJW typesIf you made the models appeal to coomers they would not appeal to "women" and sjw stereotypes.
bit late to the party but>135 pointsI don't understand. At 120 points they still weren't worth taking.
>>93449400Xeno hands typed this post.Therefore meaning his post is immedeatly invalid and retarded and I don't care because I'm a marineCHAD.Marine releases are the only good and exciting releases.>chaos?Overdesigned trash and superflous details everywhere>CWE?Underdesigned power rangers shit that hasn't been changed for the past 30 years making them look like shit.>tau?Retarded mech garbage or more second rate xenotards that don't sell>necrons?Terminator rip offs with terrible egyptian theming.>DEldarWorse looking CWE which in on themselves look terrible>tyranids?Look kinda cool, but are retarded hivemind zerg dogshit>orks?Only good ones alongside marines.Looking forward to that Blood Angels and Space Wolves primaris range refreshes that'll be happening soon.
>>93449410>If you made the models appeal to coomers they would not appeal to "women" and sjw stereotypes.All trannies are coomers.It's the reason why they became trannies in the first place, they all just fried their brains with porn.
>>93449426
>>93447347Imperial Guard? That is a NOTGOOD word citizen. Please use the copyrighted term in the future, or you will be visited by a squadron of GW Attack Lawyers.
>TQknocking up that magussy to sire purestrain children
If there are Imperial Fists and Death Guard, theoretically, there is a successor space marine chapter called the Imperial Guard
>>93449394it is very good and fun. if you can find a copy of it, it's worth trying at least. my group is about 35 hours into our playthrough. I will say that it's much simpler than WH40K but i found the game to be pretty damn hard.
>>93449076>The fuck they are. The Great Crusade was a clusterfuck, because the primarchs got gotten,This is why anons cannot be taken seriously.We have authors making commentary on hhow the T'au thematically going on a Great Crusade and how ancient characters like Abaddon would recognise the sense of hope and drive as the self-same that they felt in the Great Crusade And we have anon here being a complete lorelet. Fuck sake the discussions here has been dumped down by the influx of tourists.
>>93449448Wouldn't it better to call them Death Fists?
>>93449448I'm more interested in Death Fists
>>93449218The Shadowsun novel has Shadowsun leading a diverse alien kill team of T'au ally races. It has one of those bears. The She-Bear absolutely manhandled the Death Guards.
>>93449456
What army looks the best when they are unpainted? While I like the models shown on the GW website, I have no painting skills (almost failed the classes during high school) so mine would look completely different and I am afraid they would stay in their gray state, maybe primed with one of the Citadel spray can colours. Is there any army for paint loser like me?
>>93449484>unpaintednigger just base coat and dip wash
>>93449456The problem with the Tau is that they don't have flaws and their flaws are so underplayed and irrelevant that they are boring. They're boring to think about, boring to interact with, boring to read about... just boring. They don't have any sort of dynamic imbalance that makes factions in 40k interesting. Some fatal flaw that brings tragedy to the entire effort. No, they're just okay, trudging along getting stuff done with no problem.And the issue with comparing them to the Great Crusade is that humans at that point ALREADY colonized vast reaches of the galaxy and were reconquering systems that were out of communication for a long time and thus there's a lot of drama there. Some were nice and compliant but still got conquered, some were nice and everything was fine, some were hellholes and some were just assholes. There's a whole range of interesting stuff there and a lot one can play off of the characters involved in the great crusade.But Tau just like ... go "okay we're friends now or idk I'm going to shoot a bit, okay we're friends thanks" and that's it. Bland to the core.
>>93449456I'm just an eternal tourist and I'm never going to play, but from the outside it kind of looks like he destroyed your central point and you're mad, what am I missing here?
Marines should have something like this.
>>93449484Get some cheap reaper minis or nolzur minis and paint those as practice.
>>93449456>the Great Crusade was so hopeful and great that half of your force rebelled against you because you were such a fucking piece of shit tyrant that they saw no other choice>spending thousands of years colonizing new worlds, establishing stable societies and trade routes is the same as zipping across the galaxy in 200 years to unites lost colonies and beat back hostile races coming to get youThat's what you get for listening to some "author's" commentary.
>>93449503
>>93449491I just got in the thread. He destroyed none of my points. I am calling him out on being a tourist who missed the point of the T'au.Now get the fuck out. I mean look what I am dealing with by replying to him >>93449490Who says shit like this>The problem with the Tau is that they don't have flaws With a serious face?A non-tourist wouldn't need anyone to spoonfeed him the weakpoints of the T'au Empire.This simplest discourse belongs to /v/ or any secondary forum.
>>93449393>Be 200 year old space marine. The greatest of them all. An ultramarine.>Get hit with gauss flayer.>Even for a superhuman of the emperor it hurts like hell and I'm in incredible pain.>Crying through my helmet.>Giant armored amazon rushes over to me. >"Oh no what happened? did that xenos shoot you?">"sniffle Y-y-yeah">"Aww poor baby! Let mommy take care of you"
>>93449516>Tau>flaws
>>93449515Beautiful.
>>93449519>"Aww poor baby! Let mommy take care of you"
>>93449484Painting miniatures isn't like actual painting in terms of needed skill until you get to a very high level. 95% of army painters are doing stuff that is on the same skill level as coloring books. If you just pick out all your materials with basecoats and hit everything with a wash you'll have stuff that looks just as good as the majority of armies out there
>>93449510You are ignoring that the T'au are far ahead of the human race and are entering their Great Crusade phase much earlier than humanity did.You also ignored Phil Kelly likening the Ethereals to the Emperor and his explanation how the Chaos Gods planned to turn Farsight into a T'au version of Horus.
>>93449538>their Great Crusade phaseYou keep using this term but it does not apply at all. For humanity the Great Crusade happened as they were REconquering their lost colonies (and expanding) what was previously colonized.It's more apt to compare it to the first wave of human colonization of the galaxy and NOT the great crusade.
These threads are dogshit.
>>93449558
>>93449490>The problem with the Tau is that they don't have flawsIf they didn't have flaws you wouldn't have most of the fanbase thinking they're weaklings who are about to die at any second.
>>93449558These threads are what you make of them anon.Today I learned what a dark muse was AND I learned of a great new model idea for space marines. Couldn't have done that without the faggots on /40kg/. Meanwhile you sit in negativity complaining.
lost to tzeentch demons as world eaters
>>93449554So you know more than ADB and Phil Kelly?https://x.com/adembskibowden/status/850259054798659584
>>93449587>2017>21 likes>aside from dumbowski and nuloreReevaluate your life.
>>93449594Okay but he explains well how what the T'au are doing is identical to the Great Crusade so much that it would catch the attention of the few characters that could recognize the irony of it.
>>93449574is fine bro, Tzeentch is best god anyway
reminder that ADB was a fa/tg/uy, he made it, you can do it too, never give up
I just finished Morvenn Vahl novel. Do you want spoilers?
>>93449615sure
>>93449587I trust a random anon more than ADB desu
>>93447900sure
>>93449612He made what exactly? Being hated on /tg/?Yeah, i think i can do that too
>>93449519Please contain your fetish posting to your fucking discord or whatever you faggots use nowadays
>>93449639>Check it out guys I call them wytches! They're strong beautiful elf women who dance while they kill people and dress scantily! >Ugh pleeease contain your disgusting hornieness. Nobody wants to hear about your fetish. YOU LAUGH AT ME, BUT PRIMAMARIES MARINES ARE THE FUTURE!
>>93449619-A 14-year-old boy named Kol Rakhul lives in an orphanage with his twin sister where they are abused as typical of the Imperium. Kol keeps dark urges in check thanks to the words and presence of his sister.-One day the world comes under attack by heretics. The twins fleet o sancaturay and wait there for some time with the other kids. Sisters of the Argent Shroud eventual arrive but they are willing only to take the girls. -Kol's sister refuses to go without him. When the sister pulls her away, Kol lashes out and cuts the Battle Sister's face. The Battle Sister knocks him out and the last thing he sees is the expression of his sister that hertakes for hatred for what he did-When he wakes up, he finds a Night Lord standing over him. Kol attempts to fight the traitor marines wanting to die rather than live on without his beloved sister. Impressed by his furiousness, the Night Lord gives him the choice between death or joining the Night Lords.
>>93449659Oh boy the sister upgrades to battle-sister and the boy becomes a night lord. Very dramatic.
Is this list ok for a chill 1k game, last time it felt that I drowned the other guys in chaff so I kinda went with something smallerSons of sanguiniusCharacters >Apothecary biologis>Captain with artisan of war equipped with neovolkite and power fist>Librarian in Terminator armor with archangel shard>Librarian with visage of deathBattleline>5 Assault intercessors with thunder hammerThe rest>Company Heroes>6 Fragstorm aggressors>5 Terminators, power sword and powerfists>An impulsor with grenades and missilesInitially I was running a repulsor and 10 assault intercessors but I think a repulsor may be pushing it too much for a friendly game
>Slaanesh Grey for skin>Naggaroth Knight for carapace>Vallejo violet wash>Warlord Purple for carapace highlight>Vallejo Black for nails>Barak Nar Burgundy for nail highlightsI'll stay home and finish painting my aberrants today. Combat Patrol buddies are out of town for the weekend
>>93449659-Kol would become a mighty warlord of the Night Lords called the Slayer of Saints. He becomes the nemesis of the Argent Shroud for stealing his sister from him. For a thousand years, he menaces the Order and slaughters their saints. His Sister who has become a Living Saint confronts seeking to end both of their torments.-Turns out that she never hated him. However, both are too far removed from each other for any reconciliation. -Kol kills his sister but her body is taken by the Argent Shroud-He comes to Ophelia VII to be reunited with his sister and invades the world.-Morvenn Vahl struggles against the High Lords of Terra (who hate her for some reason) who all except for the Custodes guy attempt to stonewall her from going to defend Ophelia VII. The Custodes dude is very supportive of her. -She abandons her seat and goes to Ophelia VII
>>93449684>Those guys on the right without the grey shade.
>>93449685-Kol finds his sister's bones and reunites with her by placing her skull on his chest armor.-Morvenn Vahl arrives and shenanigans happen. Battle battle. Black Templars are there. Death Death Death. One final battle as Kol attempts to blow up the main Imperial Church temple to finish his revenge. Morvenn Vahl fatally wounds him and his pet cultist refuses to trigger the bombs because she realized that he is not a true servant of Chaos but a degenerate sister-con-The pet cultist fades into the background with the implication she is going start a new cult that will summon the Tyrant of the Blueflame back to the world at some point in the future. -Morvenn Vahl returns to Terra and throws the head of Kol on the High Lords' table and rubs it in their face that her action did more than their words-Roboute steps out of the shadows (very sneaky for someone of his size) and expresses his approval of Morvenn Vahl. He restores his seat and they both discuss a new holy war
>>93449713restores her seat*
>>93449713>because she realized that he is not a true servant of Chaos but a degenerate sister-conNight lords aren't chaotic tho. They're just eastern european assholes
>>93449736These guys were chaotic.
TQ Death guard because I like zombies and horror and they were "cheap" second hand when I rejoined the hobby in 8thGSC cause I like the models.Here's some Gellerpox dudes in hope they move from legends to Codex in 10th
The novel special release comes with a booklet called the Book of Saints with some neat artwork.It has some lore about a number of Imperial Saints. Turns out that Calgar was named an Imperial Saint since he rose from death not once but twice. When he crossed the Rubicon and when Abaddon struck him down.The first Living Saint Marine!
>>93449752Spiritual Liege's most worthy son... I kneel
>>93449752Is Calgar still depressed or Is that Guilliman job now?
>>93449775
>>93449707Going for Green & Purple color scheme on clothing, and tones of purple for the skin.
>>93449775>>93449781why not keep coteaz as is if your aim is to use his bits and still have him in the same identical poseis it just an issue of height?
>>93449799Heightism is the most common affliction in this hobby by far.
>>93449740NL are like the alpha legion and IW(kinda).Chaos shit is not universally accepted or abhorred, it's more like a warband to warband thing and some only accept it as a tool at most, while others fully embraces and the rest just fucking hate it and see chaos as another force wanting to enslave them
>>93449799>>93449799That's not the upcoming Coteaz model, that's a regular Arbites with some greenstuff.
>>93447900i hate warhammer
To anyone who plays at their local GW store and not strictly with friends, what's it like? I have a good job with disposable income for an army and haven't played since 6th. My friends unfortunately have all spread out and so the ones remaining don't play, so I'd have to do it with strangers.
>>93449298We have that and it's Tyberos
>>93449842It's about as hit and miss as you'd expect from the general public. Some are cool, some are autists
>>93449842Find a FLGS with a community, not a GW store. They don't have the table space for people to actually play games there anymore.My experiences have been largely positive but it varies from city to city and how insular the group you join is.
>>93447303>TQIt absolutely is a fetish thing
>>93449842>GW storenot even onceIsn't there any LGS around? Here, the local store has a whatsapp group and a discord, in which you can just announce when and what you want to play. There is also a (not really strict) schedule, Tuesday is for Magic, Wednesday is for Yugioh Thursday is the "40k night" and the store has "open" until midnight. So obviously i might rather post i want to play my 40k army on Thursday and not Wednesday, but it would not be impossible.
>>93449807the eagle is from coteaz, so the dude got coteaz in order to convert... an inferior coteaz?
>>93449881>wraithlordIt's very clearly a wraithknight.
>>93449881>Do not fist android girls
>>93449898Might've scored the eagle from a bits box or ebay sale, not the whole mini? Or just wanted to make a taller Coteaz.
>>93449898I assume it's from before the dumpsterfire new one and he just thought it'd be a fun little project
>>93449775Poor Coteaz
>>93449905Does she need a spiritseer to hold her hand during the process to stay focused?
>>93449915Oh, to be a snooty french waiter with a thin 20s moustache
>>93449901can't be, there's not enough space in there for the living pilot
>>93449915>>93449928It´s more like the polite and badass Alfred.
>>93448958>These are robutts from the Dark Age of Technology, and as such should look out-of-place in the 41st Millennium.So, just like Votann then?
>>93449905Wraithbone is flexible and manipulable. It can bend and flex into any shape that needed. It obeys the right commands.
>>93449946FW can't keep getting away with these brutal moggings!
>>93449951Why, it could even be made to be semi-solid, offering it a marshmallow-like softness. If desired.
>>93449957Just imagine.
>>93449957>>93449959Eldar fertility goddess
>>93449959
when im done with all my painting maybe next spring i will finally play again possiblyit has been 8 years since my last game so im pretty excited
>>93449981Things have changed in your absence
>>93449963Isha is still alive though.
Good morning lady (singular) and gentlemen, today is a good day to hate on dark angels
>>93450002No, to hate on blood angels! AAAAAARGH how I hate those fuckers!
>>93450027Do blood angels make 3 other chapters completely redundant while also having exclusive units that are straight upgrades?
>>93449992yeah ive noticedwe have this shit planned out, it will be 5th edition 40k and warhammer armies project faba side
>>93449996With how GW and BL are these days I'm surprised they haven't done a story revealing how she actually has Nurgle wrapped around her girlboss finger.Is the whole Nurgle tests shit on Isha thing even canon anymore? I just read about that shit on 1d4chan like 15 years ago Was it ever?
>>93450030i hate all the divergent chapters.
>>93450039Are you the "Fold them all back into legions" guy?
>>93450036>t. Brainlet
The Blood Angels bait is pretty bad.It's too obvious.
>>93450002>>93450027This, but space wolves
>>93449996Isha isn't the goddess of wraith construct ass and breeding though. She only cares about living Eldar.
>>93450057Name a more contemptible faction
>>93450068The Houthis
>>93450068Votann in general. GSC based off their poor performance.
>>93450068Damn those Votann are looking rad.
>>93450039I mean, I don’t hate it. I hate the lore of blood angels but I think their play style is cool. Blood angels have to charge from cover to cover before slamming into the enemy which is fun and very wargame-y due to the positioning battle. My problem comes when your lore and gameplay are actively hostile to everyone. >Oh you see dark angels are the first legion and the best legion so they get the best melee terminators with better anti-vehicle options oh and their terminators can use plasma cannons so they have better ranged options. Oh they also have better bikes than everyone, making your entire white scars list even more non-viable. Even if Stormlance was viable, then Dark Angels could run it better than you could so why bother? >Oh, Also they have a better bike HQ, their own Ravenwing detachment, and a named bike character. They also have better melee infantry, unique to their faction, that blow blade guard vets away. Oh and they don’t have any roster restrictions. Sure, tanks don’t get deathwing/ravenwing bonuses, but there’s nothing stopping you from taking a gladiator lancerLike, it sucks. It just fucking sucks. Yeah, I’m biased because it makes my chapter useless and redundant but I think you can see they’re just terrible. >>93450047No, I just think they should have more list restrictions. >>93450066Eh, space wolves are unbearable in lore, but their tabletop playstyle isn’t too shit. I kinda like playing against space wolves because they have nicely-painted terminators. >>93450068Dark angels
So what's the next major story beat? When are we getting a horus heresy 2.0?
>>93450079At least yiffs just kinda do their own thing and don't invalidate other chapters like DA do White Scars for example or blood angels raven guard(before vanguard became a thing they were both the jump pack faction with lightning claws)
>>93450086>So what's the next major story beat?Nth war for asmrageddon
>>93450086The Storm of Emperor's Pride is going to turn half the Space Marines into women and then they'll destroy half the Eye of Terror with the power of Girlboss. Ghazghkull will look at the camera and say trains roights. Eldar will get their new codex 10 years after this.
>>93450088I agree that wolfs do their own thing, yes. My main gripe with them is lore. However I don’t think the blood angels thing is bad. My two main armies are white scars and Raven guard, lol. I actually like the new direction of being stealthy. The problem is that Phobos suits are kinda shit and Reivers suck. I still keep some deep strike and/or jump pack units and some tanks in my Raven guard armies, but I wish there was better stealth options. That said, I still like their jump packs. Especially when it’s Kayvaan-type up/down shenanigans
>>93449870>not a gw storeironically my gw store is packed and virtually every meaningful flgs within 25 miles is laser focused on mtg and barely deals in aos/40k.it isnt really that popular out here and GW sales requirements for local stores are fucking stupid. e.g. one shop had to sell a certain number of recruit, elite, and command versions of the 9th edition starter set every month or they wouldn't get any new kits
>>93450079>but I think you can see they’re just terrible.I don't, really, I don't let crunch unbalancing tip my opinion on aesthetics or fluff.Especially when you sound like the kind of person who would flip around completely on whether it's a bad thing the moment it's your chapter having the edge in those ways.
Space wolves still have the right to be called the Emperor's executioners, because they carried out top-secret missions to destroy such terrible enemies that they could not be told about them.
>>93449713>because she realized that he is not a true servant of Chaos but a degenerate sister-conThere's nothing worse than finding out your boss is the wrong kind of degenerate
>>93450137Okay, but why does an Enslaver outbreak need to be a state secret? They're not a cognito hazard like Chaos in general is. Knowledge of them doesn't provide any extra vulnerability.
>>93450129Dude, I would think it’s insane if any faction made *3* others redundant. It’s not just a me thing. I was comparing when imperial agents souped death watch and I’ll complain when they soup grey knights in as well.
>>93450151guard should be able to be souped in any <imperial>, <chaos>, or <tau> faction desu
>>93450151>there should be 15 different marine codexes>also they shouldn't be redundant or repetitive at all
>>93450155No, they shouldn’t be souped in, they should retain their identity, that’s what I’m arguing for. If you let them be souped, they’ll have to be balanced around that, and it’s going to lead to a 40% WR guard codex getting nerfs to their best units>>93450163You need to make them not step on each others’ toes. And also there didn’t need to be 15. We never needed black Templars.
>>93450170What's your reasoning for not needing black templars but needing deathwatch?
do you use battlescribe or armybuilder and do you print out your lists or use a tablet
>>93450172He's a smelly guard player, that's all he has
>>93450178I marsturbate on a piece of paper with a bunch of units written on it then tailor my list to where my cum lands
>>93450170>they should retain their identityBut you're arguing against the dark angels retaining their identity
>>93450178newrecruit,eu
>>93450200Is that why your list is understrength?
>>93450206It's why my list is all terminators
>>93450172Because Black Templars bloat the roster and deathwatch didn’t step on anyone’s toes. We didn’t need another knightly/crusade faction. >>93450202No one in tournaments plays them with bikes. They are a knight faction, not an everything faction. They at least need unit restrictions besides “uhhh… they don’t get death wing buffs”
>>93450223Do you seriously cannot understand that a faction's identity doesn't end at one descriptive noun like "knight"?
>>93450223>tournamentsbrainrot
>>93450235Yes, that’s exactly my problem. Black templars existing gives dark angels players the excuse to take literally everything interesting from other chapters because “they’re also knights” If you deleted dark angels from existence, it wouldn’t instantly inject a ton of life into the space marine roster
If there are entire chapters that are cut off from the rest of the imperium due to warp fuckery, what are the chances that some chapters actually exist twice? Like some of them got trapped somewhere and now they're split in two, regaining their forces on both sides of the divide?
>>93450150It's not a secret. Remembrancers simply did not record the well-known stories of Space Wolves, considering them savages and barbarians.
>>93447303Am I being a 4chan stereotype be choosing eldar as a trans woman?I'm getting my first 2 models at the start of august and gonna try assembling and painting em at our citys bigass game store.I'm only picking tanky themed eldars though cause I wanna be a snowflake and "human/fleshy" eldar models look ugly af outside yvarin.Wraithlords(my fav model), wraithguards and seer and war walkers really appeal to me and I am definitely getting an avatar of khaine when I learn to paint properly.
>>93450047Nah, i'm more of a 'everyone should obey the codex astartes' kind of retard
>>93450262There's a Lamenters dreadnought in the deathwatch that thinks he's the only Lamenter left cause he's been in the watch since the last time they were essentially annihilated
>>93450262ah yes, the knights of quantum founded after the slaughter on shrodinger VII
Do you think you could subdivide the existing marine codex units into 9 distinct chapters with their own unique units without ruining any of their identities? Really it's only like 6 since BA, DA, and SW already have their own unique units.I think you could get away with:>Ultramarines Stern Guard, Tyranid War Veterans, Company Heroes>Imperial FistsCenturions, Heavy intercessors, Hammerfall Bunker>SalamandersInfernus Squad, Eradicator Squad, Promethean Priest>Iron HandsDesolators, Predator Annihilator, Gladiator Reaper>Raven GuardEliminators, Phobos Librarian, Reivers>White ScarsInvictor Tactical Warsuit, Whirlwind, Speeders
>>93450265Are you only interested in painting or playing the tabletop game? Also yes this is going into my xenos players are troons folder
>>93450262The chance that both exist is low but the chances that a chapter that is cut off from the imperium does anything other then slowly die is quite absurd. they not only need to be able to replenisch units but also supplyes and equipment what seems basically impossible for spacemarines.
>>93450262Impossible. Astartes are programmed with a preset kill count and can only replenish to specific thresholds without supervisor authorization.
I'm just gonna greytide. Painting is too demoralizing.
>>93450329Bro go make a coffee, sit down, and paint your shit. Right now
>>93450317I'd rather give tyrannic war veterans to everyone
>>93450338Fair. I originally put blade guard there but I think they are cool enough to justify everyone having them.
>>93450329Choose a simple colour scheme if you're going to give up on painting what army are you playing?
>>93450336Nah. Building is fun. Painting isn't.
>>93450329i never understood this mentality but then again i lean more to the hobby side not the tournament change armies like socks styleother thing i never got was why do people buy and buy and buy more and more models when they have no use for them in the first place, let alone never paint any of them
>>93450319I just want to collect a few minis and just have an excuse to dress up n go outside and hang out somewhere.I would rather play 500-1000 point games ideally, 2000 seems like a pain.
>>93450036Russ will free her and she will suck his dick, cucking the Eldar out of one of their last living gods because nothing good can ever happen to the Eldar.
Anyone's a weirdo that has both some new Cadians (or Kriegers) and some WHFB Beastmen for a size comparison?I want to make imperial guard beastmen but not sure how well they scale together
>>93450178Battlescribe, but once newrecruit actually has an app and preferably someone who understands how to design a mobile UI that isn't dogshit terrible I'll be moving to that
I need to stop playing Darktide and start painting. Painting the Magus scares me.
>>93450426Beastmen are notably bigger, and they come on 32s. I'm using mine as proxies for the smaller accursed cultists and they're barely fitting on 25s
>>93450426Here's how they stack up on minicompare
>>93450317Why do that when we could instead squat most chapters and keep only the ones with a specific theme that doesn't infringe on the others?space marines have only 5 themes anyway>knight>tacticool>neoclassical>technobarbarian >mechanical transhuman
>>93450538>neoclassicalThat the Roman Ultramarines and Spartan Minotaurs?
>>93449685>1000 years of misunderstanding>sisconJust like in my japanese animes.
>>93450205>>93450434i have been using armybuilder for some 24 odd years and still loving itthey apparently had some licensing issues in the past and there were many years without any official warhammer datafiles but now they have startet popping out againback in the day armybuilder 2.2c was among the most pirated software on torrent sites for a prief period, that was kinda funny
>>93449195Weapon placement is silly, but it's your typical IRL MRAP shapewise. People that do wheel conversions miss out. The fluff reason that Tauroxes have treads is that the Taurox Prime's treads literally magnetize like magboots.>>93448662>>93449229Why be a faggot?
>>93450538This is a bad idea
>>93450587Oh god, it's the hovercraft from 2042
>>93450533This isn't accurate. That website is dog
>>93450587>People that do wheel conversions miss out. The fluff reason that Tauroxes have treads is that the Taurox Prime's treads literally magnetize like magboots.I agree and don't really get the hate. Imperium tech should look weird and somewhat unconventional as well
>>93450638It doesn't matter if your regular guard guy is doing it to a regular Taurox, but taking the treads off the Prime is where you gimp yourself.Like a lot of Scions stuff, it's an obscure piece of lore from the Scion's 6th Edition codex, which most people don't have.I personally wrote an email to the Wrath & Glory RPG team with all the capabilities of Scion's gear, the monoscope being an armor piece and not an actual weapon scope, how the their carapace armor is a voidsuit with magboots, etc and cited that codex, and in the next update they added all of that info.
>>93450664Damn man, you really like Scions
>>93450664>I personally wrote an email to the Wrath & Glory RPG team with all the capabilities of Scion's gear, the monoscope being an armor piece and not an actual weapon scope, how the their carapace armor is a voidsuit with magboots, etc and cited that codex, and in the next update they added all of that info.Honestly pretty cool of you
What's an instant secondary red flag for you?>corpse starch
>>93450684I do. I got the 8th Ed. IG codex in the past and then saw these guys that looked cool and that's where it started.>>93450695I was happily surprised that they cared. Even if it's not a great game, that still wins me over a bit
>>93450732Marines as unkillable demigodsDon't even hate marines, mind youAlso ork waaagh powers & how extensively exterminatus is used
>>93450732Starting with 8th or later.
>>93450835Anon 8e was 7 years ago already
>>93450732Warhammer is satire.
>>93450844Please tell me you’re fucking joking Please
>>93450317We should just squat primaris and restore the 4th edition space marine roster + drop pod.
>>93450893Anywhere I can see or find this roster?
>>93450684NTA, but the scions are my favorite for a lot of reasons, but chiefly it's their fluff. Every bit of lore about them is "and so every man in the regiment died horribly, but bought just enough time for (insert other imperial here) to win the day."Also, they're the humanity fuck yeah faction, so that's dope.
>>93449615Can you post pictures of interesting bits?
>>93450732>codexes are imperial propaganda>femstodes have always existed>tau are the good guys>the imperium is satire>everything is political
>>93450732What's wrong with corpse starch?
>>93450899The 4th edition space marine codex.
>>93450967They're convinced it's all the imperium eats and it's absolutely ubiquitous.Go ahead and name me one instance of it even being mentioned semi recently.
>>93450732le hecking kreig shovel
>>93450957>femstodes have always existedThere is meta and in-universe answers to this>the imperium is satireWell, post-Rogue Trader 40k isn't straight up satire, but satirical elements are still present to some extent
>>93450732>Guys, check out my ork conversion.>Orks are never beaten>Did you know ork stuff works because they believe it does?!?Basically if they're an ork fan, it's a red flag. Ork fans are almost as bad as skaven fans.
>>93450732>firstborn being over 7' tall>primaris being over 8' tall
>>93450957This isn't specific to secondaries, this is just things you don't like
>>93450985And meta wise, femstodes weren't exactly a retcon, sinse otherwise was never stated, so GW has benefit of the doubt, but I think that most people realize that's it's an addition to existing lore, not lore that has always been a thingHonestly, I don't give a shit that golden boys has females now, my only problem with it is that Custodes are not as homoerotic now, and thus less based
>>93451010>Honestly, I don't give a shit that golden boys has females now, my only problem with it is that Custodes are not as homoerotic now, and thus less basedNah, they're a bit less like marines now, which is a plus.
>>93451010What I hate about the femstodes retcon as a Custodes player is that I'm going to have to learn how to paint feminine faces.
>>93450970Checking the folder right no- Catachan´s had their own fucking codex? I would like to know when that codex was made. Started in the middle of 7th.
>>93451035just don't use femstodes minis
>>93450844Irrelevant
>>93451029I don't like that they've ruined the duality of custodes and sisters of silenceat this point I'm arguing in favour of severing the sos and custdoes connection and linking sos with grey knightsto keep things balanced custodes can have indentured thunder warriors and those thunder warriors can have women with power armoured thunder thighs
>>934510413rd edition and 4th, don't think there were any newer ones made
Anyone got a link for the 9th edition Black Templar Codex?
>>93451041Pretty sure they had one in either 2nd or 3rd edition and some supplemen and/or white dwarf list afterwards.
>>93451056SoS were always forced in there purely for female representation despite absolutely no one caring about them. The power discrepancy between them and custards is insane but we were forced to go along with it.
>>93450732There is a type of eldar fans that are annoying and generally not a fun person. They're hard to distinguish from normal (and optionally well-adjusted) eldar fan. Those people whine more than eldar fun generally should (mind that there are reasons eldar fans can be rightfully upset), they fail to see ANYTHING good with how eldar are treated and they sometimws convinced that everyone else hates eldar. They always find things to be upset about. Like, I know a guy who whined about other factions having powerful psykers rivaling farseers. He was also convinced that eldar aren't special anymore as a faction
>>93451084>Like, I know a guy who whined about other factions having powerful psykers rivaling farseersHe's right. Everything eldar do other factions do better.
>>93451080>The power discrepancyI don't care about marinewank, let alone custdoeswank, sisters of silence must be their equals in fighting terms regardless of the nature or absence of their own augmentations, training and powers
>>93451084I have to agree, it is disappointing seeing Farseers being far less capable psykers than something like Thousand Sons Sorcerers. I wouldn't mind paying extra for a Farseer or Eldrad if they got some decent shooting.
>>93451084>I know a guy who whined about other factions having powerful psykers rivaling farseers.It was me.The removal of psychic tables was also a mistake.
>>93447303>Retcons your minotaurs>Refuses to elaborate>Gets fired from GW
>>93451084 (me)There he is"And it's just the Eldar don't have a unique identity anymore. Their advanced tech angle has been taken by Necrons and DAOT humanity, Psykers by Chaos and every other named human Psyker. Future telling, useless to actively harmful. Magic weapons and tech, it's a neat idea but it's barely used, really the only unique thing is wraith bone, but even then Nexrodermis is just a far more superior material. Beyond that psyker based tech is not used at all, not in a unique way, ghost swords are just nemesis weapons. Eldar don't have a unique identity 40k and I fail to see the point in them existing in the setting besides just helping the Imperium be much cooler." (C)
>>93451178>being the only best at something is the only thing contributing to having unique identityAlso, ghost weapons are not in fact nemesis weapons, ghost weapons have spirits of eldar living inside them and guinding them in combat
>>93448921I actually think Gravis armor is fine. Hardly the dumbest thing GW has conceived.
>>93451178>other named human Psyker>Mephiston, Magnus and Emperor are the only existing named human psykers
>>93451195>ghost weapons have spirits of eldar living inside them and guinding them in combatThen why do they only hit on a 4+?
>>93451210Because if they died they probably weren't very good at combat
>>93451209There's a couple. A few blood raven librarians come to mind
>>93451219Fair enough.
>>93451210Because this is the edition where they brought back character attachment so they can heavily push the overpriced character kits and therefore GW wants to sell spiritseers.
>>93451222That's the point. Mephiston, Magnus and Emperor are not the only ones, there is a plenty of weaker human psykers
I have no idea how to play against vehicle skew>just outscore themI try but they just table me by round 3 and then max out primary and secondary on rounds 4 and 5>just run more antitankI've seen tournament lists that run barely any antitank so I know that's not the issue
Imagine showering a tau to death.
>>93451258You have to put firecrackers in their vehicles. James specifically encourages this, as is evident with the Dorne having no bottom, making it easier to place firecrackers within.
>>93451263The flamer will do.
>>93450732Crying over primaris 7 years later.Especially unprompted.
>>93451285>you should just lower your standards and conform as time passesWeak willed subhuman.
>>93451293Firstborn models suck lmao
>>93451303Oh hi PAKfag
>>93451056>I don't like that they've ruined the duality of custodes and sisters of silenceThe duality you talk of never existed.SoS and Custodes used to be in their own separate codexes.And SoS sold so badly that GW then just decided to axe them completely and then shove them into the Custodes codex in an attempt to get custodes fans to buy them, it didn't work.Even in the lore they barely work with one another, custodes are the Emperor's bodyguards, not SoS who do their own thing by manning the Blackships that hunt for psykers that are then sacrificed for the Emperor.
Is it worthwhile putting a Warlock with Windriders? I put the Shuriken Cannons on them.
>>93451263>>93451283what do tau ears look like? is there a single model showing them?>inb4 art
>>93450997Why are you scared of Ork conversions?>le purple invisible OrkI've noticed some pushback from the usual secondary sloptube suspects on meme Ork lore like "We'z a Tank", but bizarrely this one hasn't been caught yet, the one person I saw trying to debunk it for some reason adopted a stance of "Orks don't think everything purple is invisible, just that purple is hard to see because nobody has seen a purple Ork", instead of acknowledging that it's not official lore and is just an internet joke (originating here, no less) that has been repeated into becoming meme canon.
>>93451310>SoS and Custodes used to be in their own separate codexes.So did skitarii and cult mechanicus around the time, so go spit to yourself in a mirror
>>93451112>sisters of silence must be their equals in fighting terms regardless of the natureNo, they are not. Never will be and never were.You're a secondary retard and lorelet if you believe this.
>>93451322Tell me how tall a custodes is
>>93451084>Like, I know a guy who whined about other factions having powerful psykers rivaling farseers.It's not really "rivaling farseers" anymore.There are just plain better psykers everywhere that then proceed to shit all over the eldar at every opportunity.Like that one time where an ork weirdboy just teleported behind one farseer and then popped their head like a grape with the ork psychic powers.After which the fucking autarch in the very same book started to bawl their eyes out in middle of a fire fight after seeing it.
>>93451285>>93451303projecting + hypocrisyThank you for making primaris more disliked by the day.
>>93451306it is true
>>93451303Chaos Space Marines transitioned from old ones to new ones without ever requiring primarisation. And they look awesome
>>93451345>and then popped their head like a grape with the ork psychic powers.'Eadbanger used to do d6 MW. That's an entirely accurate portrayal of it. It's a power designed to snipe leaders.Get over yourself, eldarfag.
>>93451293You should.Either adapt to the environment or get left behind to rot. Your choice.Firstborn models suck, especially the old ones.I don't care how varied or ornamented they are, they are shit on a fundamental level, putting any detail on top is the same as putting sprinkles on shit.And no, I don't care about mk6 or mk7 either both are terrible but for different reasons.Nu-mk6 because it is bland trash with less details than mk10 and its proportions are terrible.Mk7 is terrible because the helmet is just a bad rip off of Darth Vader with also terrible proportions.
>>93451345>orksthey can get a pass because it's a very different kind of psychic powers, much less restrained, so much so that it also harms the weirdboy and other orks at times.The problem is with humans.
>>93451142>The removal of psychic tables was also a mistake.Don't worry, it'll be selling point of 11e to have it return as a brand new feature
>>93451321>uhm but this other thingCool shit, it's irrelevant.Doesn't change the fact that SoS and Custodes are completely different and Custodes players never wanted SoS in their book or army at all.No asked for SoS, no wanted to buy them, and no one will continue to buy them.
>>93451339Taller than space marines.
>>93451310Remember when they tried to force in not one but two SoS kits in the custard box because they sell that badly?
>>93451142>Nooooo I should have an entire mechanic that forces other armies to accomodate me by wasting points on shitty psyker characters!>It doesn't matter if several factions don't have a way to counter it I want it back NOW!
Tempestus Scions are cool but I need to stop buying more stuff thinking "I can paint this in a few months" and throwing it on the pile.
>>93449420>he won't do whatever it takes to include the best looking kit in the csm range in his gamesget out of the eye of terror and don't come back
>>93451345Gav Thorpe did nothing wrong.
Still working on the firstborn techmarine kitbash, slowly coming together
>>93451423That one was Mike Brooks actually, it was the Warboss novel.
>>93451413I'll take em off your hands. I could probably use another platoon.
>>93451285Primaris are bad because they simultaneously bloated the space marine range with useless starter boxes that are limited in terms of options and customization, while enabling GW to both squat classic and iconic stuff like boxnaughts and predators, while having the third malus of pushing out codex-unique stuff like the Khan on Bike for the less fleshed out chapters- making the range far more samefaggy than before.
>>93451393>Cool shit, it's irrelevant.It's perfectly relevant, assassins were their own codex then, harlequins were, scions were.it was all microfactions because GW wanted to maximise the amount of codexes they could sell to retards and because the ally system in place meant you were expected to field everything together anyway.custodes and sisters were released together, they got models together, their designs got developed together, they've been described and illustrated as the two talons of the emperor, they got a duo of characters together, they are objectively meant to be together and the one and only reason why "custodesfags" don't want sisters is because they don't actually care about custodes, they latched onto them because they're marinefags seeking the most special snowflake of them all and because sisters aren't op in games, that's it90% of custodefags would abandon the faction and latch onto grey knights the moment they get taller models and stronger rules
>>93451407>don't have a way to counter itDon't have a way to counter what?I just want to choose what power my units have like other units can swap their weapons to change their roles.
The interweb seems to have settled on Sanguinius’ (S) death being for nothing. Fair shout. That’s wasn’t how I interpreted the SOT novels. Horus, in Solar War, gave Perturabo (P) full command because H was going into hiding and P was the logical choice for a endurance war. H for the entire book series was acting like Joe Biden, he was in a pre-Molech entering mind space. He thought he was H before Molech the entire time to hide his power levels to E. E knew he was corrupted. Knew H had power levels, “he just didn’t know” that H had entered Molech too. Remember H has had the power to alter time and space at this point and it isn’t until to E lands on the flagship that E realised H’s levels. ‘Yeah but big E is a weapon according to the Tan’. Let’s ignore that whole thing and get to Mannis (G). G is telling S to hurry the fuck up, like “go.. go, go, go.. go!” E knowing he was tricked is turning into the Dark King (DK), absorbing all the warps energy. G tells S that it’s now, fucking go! H even after the DK is still mind fucked. If he believes S has killed him he will believe it and die. But S is such a useless dick i’m glad he died for nothing according to the interweb. Gorgeous as he is.
>>93451404Are SoS even under the custodes umbrella on the lore? I know that when together they are the Talons of the Emperor but no one would ever mistake a sister of silence for a custodian
>>93451440>Don't brinf psykers to Deny The Witch>Eldar now hand out full rerolls for Hits and Wounds, increase their weapon strengths and movement, debuff anything on your units, and shit out tons of mortal wounds
>>93451258Tournament armies should have a proper damage output to deal with vehicke skew. It may not be specific anti tank guns but massed high str or lethal hits. Otherwise you autolose just as you said.
>>93451437I mean, what do you wanna do, go back to tactical squads? Build all your marines out of one box?
>>93451437Predators still exist, go look in the store>boxnaughtsI don't care. Those look terrible alongside the invictor.Only the contemptor, leviathan and redemptor variants look good.>while having the third malus of pushing out codex-unique stuff like the Khan on Bike for the less fleshed out chapters- making the range far more samefaggy than before.Less fleshed out chapters were always complete shite that barely existed even before primaris. And at best were terrible quality, overpriced FW resin, or Finecast.Shit like that deserves to be removed.
>>93451443dunno, go ask /hhg/
>>93451458>Don't bring psykers to Deny The WitchLiterally no one can do anything to stop it now anyway.Stop being angry about elves.
>>93451438It's not relevant.And labeling all custodes players as WAACfags just shows you're just asshurt over SoS getting "sidelined or put into a corner" when in reality they already existed there and absolutely no one wanted to play with them anyway.In these threads I think I've only ever seen SoS models one(1) singular time.And I say "I think" because I can't be sure if they were SoS models at all, or if they were SoB models but painted bronze/gold.That should already tell you how much people "care" about SoS, ie. which is none.
>>93451443I like that since the Siege of Terra novels are what "really" happened it confirms that all the old HH art are artistic depictions of the events of the Siege and larger Heresy made millenia after the fact by people who only know about it through half-truths and thoroughly ingrained propoganda
>>93451468Anyone who thinks the Invictor looks good cannot be trusted to have an opinion worth listening to.
>>93451285The passing of time doesn't make them any better. If anything it makes them worse because now lots of the old units are forever gone.
>>93451382>The problem is with humans.As all problems in the setting ultimately are
>>93451487>nu uh!>it's not true!facts speak against you
>>93451468Hating boxnoughts is like hating oxygen
>>93451496Not him, but you have bad reading comprehension. He is saying the Invictor looks bad, and that old boxnaughts look as bad as the Invictor.
