Around Rats, never relax Edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>93689865>Official AoS website, Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.ageofsigmar.comhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Tools and resources:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.phphttps://aosg.github.io/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/>Thread question:How is your local AoS scene?
>>93701480>TQ:Pretty good. My LGS has a bad habit of not getting the word out soon enough about tournaments, but other than that there's a very solid playerbase. A lot of us agree that it's more fun than 40k right now, and we've got at least 2 newbies painting armies.
>>93701480>TQThe local scene was near-dead and on life support before 4.0 came out. Everyone just played 40k instead.Now it's been revitalized and people are getting hype again (including me). Many games are being held weekly.
>tqLively, but with some quirks.The most competitive players just play amongst themselves in lgs.Others usually play at home on weekends.These two group mix only on tournaments and league matches.
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>>93701480>TQVery good. AoS has always had a decent presence in my city at the local gaming club (although its mostly 40k) but this year there was a branch out from a few members creating a pure AoS club at the side with more..."socially competent" players. Less nerds and university students, and more working fathers who wanna play some chill games. Although not classic beerhammer, its a shark tank kind of club where there are several members who are involved in our countrys AoS Worlds team. I go to both, the new one for more chill matched play games, and the old one for selective games with a narrative flair.Pic is from a tournament held by the new club, they always try to buy terrain together and create matiching "tables" for the club, which is very fun to play at.
>>93701599Neat terrain setupAlthough, imo, it is a waste to smear the tower in far left with moss
>>93701640Think there are more than one, so they sacreficed one to the theme.I also played on a ruined village table and an ice table when I was there.
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>>93701701>>93701707Very nice. Do they have a graveyard aesthetic battlefield?
>>93701599That's some nice moss, what do they use?
>>93701713I know for a fact there is one, I played my last game on it. But I didnt take any pics. I'll see if I can find anyone who took one.>>93701724I have no idea.here is a table I didnt play named "Ironjawz camp" or something
>>93701480>TQI have no idea since I can't be bothered with spending 3 hours in total driving to LGS and back. I decided to talk my friends into playing AoS at my place. Unsurprisingly, Spearhead worked wonders. Now we have 4 players with 7 forces among us.
>>93701713>>93701805Found a pic from a buddy, not the greatest angle but alas
>>93701845Why did it rotate?
>>93701858>hownew.ruThe short of it is 4chan strips all metadata from uploaded images, including orientation data so if you take a picture with your phone sideways or whatever it'll be posted sideways unless you edit it first, like cropping for example.
is that all stormcast dragon army any good?
This is the best kit in the game I think. You can make like 30 different looking dudes out it if you don't care about box instruction autism and mix the parts up to just make them look cool. On top of that you'll still have enough shit left over to make your Hellstriders look cool and not old as piss.
>>93702037you shouldn't buy helstriders to begin with but slickblades
Ghul
>>93701480To where I moved? Literally non-existant. It's so bad the nearest lgs is 30 minutes away, so it's impossible to even introduce people to the game locally. Where I moved from? Perfect, two lgs's and a local club.
>>93702127What's a good way to proxy the 3 guys on the left? I'm not paying $150 for 3 models!
>>93702186Ghoul with axe, Ghoul with a totem, ghoul with a fancy hat
>>93702186I mean the dude from Grymwatch in underworlds would make a perfectly fine decapitator, priest could just be a necromancer with a ghoul head and fancy hat, and judge could just be any ghoul with some greenstuff and a book.Go crazy, only reason I wound up with these guys was it was 100 bucks for them and ushorann.
>>93702278>Grymwatchthat would be 100 alone kek
soon
>>93702117I already had a bunch from shadow and pain.
>>93702348Oh fuck right, underworlds.
>>93702351>era of the beast could have kicked off with the reemergence of the silent people and going on a supercharged migration like a swarm of locusts>instead angry horsemanWe coulda had an army of bug people armed with sculpted amber and chitin who live in symbiosis with ghur's predatory mountain ranges. Instead we got kragnos and tall grots.
>>93702351Anyone who wants aos tyranid bug people has brainrot
Eyy box just showed up in the mail today!
>>93701858>>93701805>>93701707>>93701701>>93701599hell yeah, love seeing thematic terrain setups
>>93702869Hope it wasn't expensive, they'll probably rerelease it soon
>>93702869Kino. I'm really grateful to younger me for buying pic related for the equivalent of todays 50 eurobucks. I want to buy a Fortified Manor as well which should give me enough scenery for the rest of my life.
Has anyone converted the Steam Tank to fit with the rest of the range? Putting Fusilier or Steelhelm shields around it and such?
>>93702952It was 120ish with tax from my flgs, I probably overspent but this is a box I've had my eyes on since I was a kid.>>93702972Fuuuuck man 50 sounds amazing. I'll wait and see what else they drop but god damn if that old terrain don't do it for me.
>>93702972>>93702869>fortfied manorwhy do you want to paly with boring normal houses and building from WHF when you could play with naw holes, Realm Gates, Bloodkeeps, living meat trees, maw pits, Fyreforges and floating water shrines? its 2024.
>>93701480>TQ Seems to be dying around here. I thought the new edition would revitalize an already struggling environment but instead it seemingly flatlined. Not feeling great about my game prospects in the near future.
>>93703183Because not everyone likes making anime tables anon
>>93703183Why not both, mundane next to fantastical is a factor I enjoy in warhammer. Besides having half normal half bloodpits or gnaw holes implies (your dudes) are enroaching on (my dudes) territory.
>>93703183Most AoS scenery looks shit and is ridiculously overpriced. For 70eur I can get a fortified manor and split it into 3 buildings, multiple walls, fences and scatter scenery.
>>93701480>TQbreddy gud, there's a solid core of us that do tournaments and still a lot of faces at the store that aren't in our group. We're all crazy about 4th and just smashing as many games out as we can, though admittedly we do basically only play 2k matched tourney lists, occasionally testing silly skew lists is about as wild as it gets. There's some real good hobby to go with it though, one guy won best army at lgt and another's gargants are a thing of beauty.
>>93703284Oh you rascal anon!
>>93702127>good paint jobs>gloss varnishYou know we're not *really* supposed to listen to Stillman, right?
>>93703642It's been a balancing act of learning to get my ghouls the way I want em. I want the moist skin and bloody hands but haven't quite nailed down everything! Thanks for saying its a good paint job though :D
what are the must-do next purchases after building a Sylvaneth spearhead?
>>93704177I'd try looking up if someone still got a boxed deal like the blades of belthanos and/or the tree half of echoes of doomthen I'd grab spells and something to make my own terrain pieces, probably fake bonsai trees and other model trees
anyone got the most recent STD tome? I want to see how much better they are than the space marine cousins
>>93702127>>93703923Holy shit I just noticed the S on the scroll.
>>93704221their current rules are free to download from warhammer community. we got indexes with the new edition
>>93704177Matches to burn your poor choices.
>>93704177How do you play this team in spearhead? Feels like as soon as the branchwych dies you just run out of gas and the tree lord only lasts a couple turns as a distraction. Am I supposed to just be doing teleport shenanigans and maximize objectives?
>>93704282I'm amazed anyone spotted that, I thought it'd be a fun little detail.
>>93704177nearly every list using this index and ghb will have alarielle and 6 bows.
>>93704499i mean if you're going to spend $150+ and 700 points on a model it damn well better be good lol. i'd be pissed if my big centerpiece turned out to be a never include.glad they finally got her warscroll right
>>93704177The Belthanos value box if you can find it, or more spearheads (2 more max), or a couple boxes of Gossamids.>>93704366Abuse teleports like a motherfucker for ez scoring and to put the Treelord exactly where your opponent doesn't want him. It's not a very killy Spearhead but it's so mobile and plenty tough enough that it doesn't matter. Personally, I've had little use for the Branchwych more often than not, losing her has never been a big issue for me, though my opponents are mostly Skaven, FEC, and Nighthaunt so YMMV.
>>93704527I want the power level of them to be around glutos or morathi currently, good but not the obvious best choice. Alarielle revive ability makes her too necessary.
>>93704535i think a lot of people underestimate how little damage things do in spearhead and how long small squads can survive. i had a squad of moonclan stabbas survive 3 turns in constant combat. i had trolls in combat for 4 turns straight without them losing a single model. things arent as fragile as they are in teh full game, shit like treelords and kurnoth are damn hard to kill
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Just some friendly advice for any gloomspite players. However many squig herd you have, it's not enough. The conventional wisdom is 100% wrong on them. Stonks
Are you required to pay for an entire year subscription for the buyable minis on Warhammer Plus or is the year-requirement only for the free stuff?I don't mind pay $6 extra if I can cancel immediately but if it's an entire year fuck that noise
>>93705669It’s games workshop. What the fuck do you think?
>>93705695That's why I didn't sign up and try since I figured they were greedy cunts like usual. Off to recasters I go
>>93705748if you cant get them from a recaster they also occasionally pop up on ebay or trolltrader for not outrageous prices.
>>93702788>we can have space marines but not bug kinoI hate you
How is it that literally every unit in dok ended up good, not a single dead scroll. They even fixed the fucking warlocks. What do I have to do to get this treatment for my faction?
>>93705767Yeah, I might go that route as well. There's one for $75 which is actually cheaper than the year subscription plus purchase price.
>>93705793which faction?
>>93705793Rule writer's pet faction.
>>93701480Soon
>>93705793Sounds more like a skill issue
>>93702972Ironically that set has enough terrain to setup a 2k tableI was able to find one for roughly 70 freedom bucks. Considered getting the manor from TOW rerelease, but it's a bit pricy for what you get>>93703183Imo the best aos terrain came out in 1st 2nd edition, but I guess it's too whacky for the current rendition of the settingAlthough I don't get why the realmgate set was discontinued
>>93705793Rules are adjusted to push sales for specific sets
>>93701480>TQStarting up. Casual 40k players are feeling some fatigue from 10e so we're trying out 4e to play something with a bit more flavor in the rules. I played my first game, spearhead size but we didn't have the spearhead decks. Cities vs Hedonites. I did alright, I got his leader, but I let my cav get stuck in combat instead of pushing through so they stayed tied up by those -1A whip guys for 3 turns and his cav was free to wipe my steelhelms and ironweld. All in all I had fun though.
>>93702351Sperging about minor factions like this is the 4chan equivalnet of brand accounts using the latest meme on twitter.
>>93706890>it's too whacky for the current rendition of the settingWe need to go back.
>>93707019Whatever, GW decided to shift them from extinct to living with recorded encounters. If Warcry wasn't hindered by AoS we'd have a warband for them already
>>93707111They were literally never extinc.The premis of Beastgrave was that they slumber deep under it with eggs and the resolution was entrences being burried so nobody will bother them anymore
>>93702351buy vespids, replace the head with a skull, add horns, fuckup the eyesockets with greenstuff and poke it to get the eyes
>>93707130This thing clearly doesn't have wings like 40k's knoc of geonosians and is much larger than a human
>>93707137>such a lorelet he can't read the single text blurb for them
>>93707137>This thing clearly doesn't have wingsWhat's clear is that you didn't read fucking anything about silent people and just spammed the image.they're human sized because normal people can don their masks just fine, and they have wings because the very text next to that image mentions them having wings
>>93707025We really do. Keep grimdark to wfb and grimderp in 40kI aos to be the powermetal noble bright that doesn't take itself seriously
>>93706900Fake news anon. This would require GW rule writers to actually know what is good and what is not.
>>93702351here's your silent people
>>93707275weapons evidently manufactured not grown by aliens
>>93707490of course it's manufactured, do you think you can find chitin swords in the wild?
Speaking of terrain, anybody knows any recasters that do warcry terrain? Really want to get a full Ghur set, but buying it all in plastic is a fucked up concept
>>93702788Tyranids can be added to AoS as is, just cut their shooting options, no termagants only harmogaunts, etc.
>>93707530Tyranid weapons aren't manufactured so they shouldn't be used in conversions
>>93707586Why would that matter? This one for example looks more like a crafted sword than the picture on the card
>>93707586That's not a tyranid weapon, that's a silent sword
>>93707586>Tyranid weapons aren't manufacturedDo you consider sylvaneth weapons manufactured?
>>93707630anon read the chain >>93707275
>>93707658Irrelevant, silent people have manufactured weapons.
New player here:Do flesh eater courts get noble deeds pts for damage on their sheet or just like health lost on the enemy (like is it only possible get 1 from a model with 1 health?)
>>93707728>>93707738and these are manufactured >>93707275or are sylvaneth weapons not manufactured? or are these not manufactured >>93707630
>>93705793Gw for some reason believes biological women like DOK instead of the glaring evidence stating otherwise. Can't have your girlfriend getting wafflestomped by some sweaty SC or BOK player
>>93705778>implying aos benefits from being an even more blatant clone of 40kYou are an idiot anon
I wanna try this game is there a skaven spearhead box coming out? I really only have an interest in them and the tree guys
>>93708145near the end of 4e going by past editions
>>93708145the skaven spearhead box is most likely going to be just some of the units of the starter set, at least for the time being, so your best course of action is finding someone willing to split skaventide with you.
>>93708145just buy a half on ebay for $120.
>>93708145>I wanna try this game is there a skaven spearhead box coming out?Edition startes get repacked either at the end of edition or near the begingin of the next,s o you own't find a solo Skaven box for the next 2-3 years.Just buy half a starter online, it has rules as if it was a separate box
I have a question about AoS lore. Does it mirror w40k in the whole dark and grim setting thing? I read some of the lore for AoS on the community site, and the good guys seem to be losing all the time or turn out to not be the good guys at all, but kind of a bad guys too. What is most shocking though is the fact that the humans somehow are all the bad guys. Even the good humans are ugly and not very heroic. Is it always like that or did I just unlucky reading snipets of the lore, which is rather the exeptions then the norm.
>>93708294it's warhammer, so people generally aren't nice or beautiful and war and conflict are what most stories will concern themselves with, but no, AoS is far from having misery porn pretending to be a central theme of the setting's tone.grim things exist, terrible things happen, evil people exist, but also noble things, magnificent things and genuinely good people too.
>>93708321Are there any stories or books about that, I would like to read more about the human factions in the setting, before I pick one. As I am more of a lore, then efficiency player.
>>93708338Don't know about any novel, but if you're in for some worldbuilding the sourcebooks for the RPG soulbound will probably do the job.
>>93708294>I have a question about AoS lore. Does it mirror w40k in the whole dark and grim setting thing? Yes.It started by being a little hopeful but also very grim, but now GW has fallen back on the 40k formula since soulless no-game faggots cried online about it. Now its the same old "CHAOS WIN INEVITABLE HURR DURRR EVERYONE IS TERRIBLE" nonsense that 40k is.
>>93708351Thanks, I will try to look in to them. Aside for the RPG right now which of the human factions is the good guys? I thought it was the Light Lords, as generaly those should be good, but they don't seem to be human, but rather elves. I have seen this guys in the picture, but I am not sure what factions they are from.
>>93708400that's a bretonnian for the old world, so not for age of sigmar.the good human factions are stormcasts and the cities of sigmar.stormcasts are superhuman rather than being merely human, like chaos warriors but of the good god, or like space marines but made with magic.cities of sigmar recently got a new range that tries to emphasize the fact they're the very lowly common man marching in the mud, but in theory the cities of sigmar have very wildly different looks and can be composed by a number of human cultures* in friendly coexistence with non-human races of order, for example there's a city of sigmar where humans and the light elves coexist.*before the new range the cities if sigmar army was composed of pretty much all of the old models for the old world so you have a good precedent for taking, say, the bretonnian knights of the old world and converting them a bit to represent the knights of your city.
Currently I’m painting some stormcast as a palette cleanser between doing big Skaven batches. I’ve been doing each one a unique scheme to sell the idea of a host of warriors that remained after the rest of their cohort were reforged. But I don’t know if I’m in love with the idea, it’s coming out more like rainbow stormcast. Should I do it more like deathwatch, a unified scheme but they each have a pauldron and features done in the style of another stormhost?
>>93708516It works if you keep the metal color of the armor the same.
>>93708516What’s wrong with rainbow troopers? You could also paint the shoulder pads , knee guards, and or helmets etc the same color to show a unified force even if they’re largely different
>>93708516>I’ve been doing each one a unique scheme>it’s coming out more like rainbow stormcastWhy would you expect it to turn out any different. If you want a unified force then you need a unifying theme
>>93708516>Should I do it more like deathwatch, a unified scheme but they each have a pauldron and features done in the style of another stormhost?Yes, just don't make it exclusively one pauldron, a halved scheme in the middle should be more than enough and easy too given the pectorals and abs neatly dividing the sculpts already perhaps make the half in common something like bare iron or oxidized bronze or white-grey stone, because something like silver or white or black could be mistaken for an actual colour scheme.
>>93708578Are you suggesting halving them transverse or sagittal? I do like the concept
>>93708453Its a dude on a horse, works perfectly fine for cavaliers
>>93704923We will miss them.
>>93708400>pic Thanks for reminding me the that the Bretonnian RPG book I desire is $200 including shipping to Canada. Fuck my life I just want the lore so I can flavor out my old world Bretonnia army.
>>93708453we need another non chaotic human faction
>>93708611
>>93708770comes to think of it: there are no red stormcasts
>>93708684Ideally a faction that is lower tech but higher magic to contrast the CoS a bit. They could take the robe-covered mage knight aesthetic back now that Stormcast have kind of lost that for themselves.
>>93708684no, we really don't
>>93708770Honestly wish I seen more people do halved and quartered schemes
>>93708916They're hard to do consistently across a large army. A lot of people just don't appreciate the aesthetic either.
>>93708916They're not the simplest schemes both in terms of execution and in terms of colour theory.
>>93704575I rolled 3 2s for her revive in my last game, useless bitch. She tanked a sbgl army like a boss in my game before though.
>>93708453Bretonnians are canon in age of sigmar. Do you not remember first edition?
>>93709266Bretonnians are not canon, just like there's no Karl Franz or Skarsnik. Compendium warscrolls do not reflect the setting
>>93709266Look, anon, I know what you mean, but let's not make it more confusing for a newcomer to mention very niche stuff like that that are also practically pointless for how aos shaped up.
>>93709266>>93709329We dont really need Bretonnians or anything similar.
>>93709353Brets vs Hedonites would look kino. Put re-imagined ones in that look all Blasphemous.
>>93709420we have reimagined brets at home
>>93708770Do you think it would look odd to do metallic below the chest plate break and chromatic up top (minus helm)
>>93709353We don’t really need half the faction and 3/4 of the units. What we need isn’t the point. >>93709329Bretonnians are part of the history of AoS as a setting whether or not you like it. Also there’s nothing stopping that guy from using Bretonnians as a proxy force for Cities of Sigmar for example. Only limitation would be most tournaments, but even GW would let you play it in their heavily restricted stores because they are still GW models and they are a part of the history of the setting.
>>93709515>part of the history of the settingbarely
>>93708938Something less garish would be cool for another human faction. The armor designs for many cities of sigmar human units are cringe. Imagine a race of low tech high magic humans coming from an area that similar to Albion. Rune tattoos and more primalistic human casters ( druids instead of wizards ). It would contrast great between the high tech cities of sigmar humans.
>>93709542>>93708835Sorry I meant that reply to that post.
>>93709526>Noooooo you’re only allowed to include things that have recent product!!!!!!!!!Cringing at your corpo logic anon
Is it possible to replicate this classical adventuring party in Soulbond?
>>93709542we have enough naked retards already.
>>93709590I’ve never seen anyone actually playing the diaper dwarves
i would rather have silent people than nu-brets any day of the week. bugs and bioweapons are more interesting than feudal france even if reskinned.
>>93709556Let me ask you a question, are tomb kings part of the setting's history?
>>93709515>Bretonnians are part of the history of AoS as a settingExclusively in the context of legends compendiums? Like I said, Karl Franz has a compendium warscroll
>>93709605aos already feels too much like weird sci-fi crap, it wants more fantasy grounding. Putting dudes with ww1 boots and cannons everywhere in cos didn't help.
>>93709559SCE, Sylvaneth, DoK and KO
>>93709599"naked retards" arguably describes SoB and FEC as well
>>93709515A less relevant part than fish people who aren't elves, but sure, if that somehow comforts you.
>>93709628>FECIn all aspects but physical they are clothed
>>93709649Tough shit then that the one aspect they're lacking in is the most critical one.
>>93709670Materialism isn’t the only lens through which you can view the world
>>93709691Collectible plastic toys aren't the world and should be evaluated through a materialistic lens first and foremost.
Alright critical mass on plastic , holy fuck. I need to stay away from people selling off old stuff they didn't paint the prices are dangerously low.
What army can I run all monsters that have zero metal or armor, painting flat plain surfaces is the most agonizingly boring things I've ever experienced
>>93709970Flesh Eater Courts
>>93709970Sons of Behamat
>>93709970>>93709977You'll want to kill yourself assembling multiple terrorgheists just so you know
>>93709992Shit really? I just bought one for 50 bucks assembled but the other one is in that old start collecting.Good to know.
>>93710000Make sure you pay close attention to the instructions GW has wrong versions in some of their boxes that have things out of order
Had a small 3 game RTT today. Went 2-1. Was alright. Added in a Crawler and it put in a lot of work countershooting, otherwise I would have just eaten opposing shooting like a chump.Top table was NH vs NH. God, they're busted.
>>93709968>$100 Spearhead>$15 Lord of Pain and Hubris>$30 box of Painbringers>fucking $8 Alchemite WarforgerI love Ebay.
>>93710021I got the old ghoul start collecting, terrogheist, endless spells, and 10 extra ghouls for 180. I'm happy but god damn I've got so much shit to work on now.
>>93709992>multiple terrorgheistsfor what purpose, also it's really not that bad of a build.
>>93709970Trogs you could get away with very little effort, or alternatively kroxigors but krox have metallic weapons
>>93709970Troggoths
>>93710039Good haul at least.I'm looking at stuff still, but definitely trying to work on my pile now. Ended up buying Sigvlad, The Fane, and HoS Endless Spells at my LGS afterward to throw cash their way.Godspeed, anon.
>>93710062Preciated anon, I've got my SBGL force almost finished so I'm glad. I can feel good that I've nearly got a whole painted army before I begin grinding on my ghouls.
>>93709970trolls.
Should I get Glutos or Keeper?
>>93710135Glutos, 100%.
>>93710135Glutos for mortals. Fatman is integral.
>>93710135Glutos is the way, Glutos is the man.
>>93709970>painting flat plain surfacesYou mean a canvas?You don't have to paint it flat and then edge highlight it. Blend a gradient, do some weathering, maybe a freehand here and there.>if you're bored then you're boring
>>93710344The other options alongside glutos to carry the enhancements kind of suck. 10 twinsouls with bodygaurd with him looks funny, but he's kind of pillowfisted.
>>93701480Are there any guides on how to paint the skin of skaven like the center rat pic related? Preferably with non citadel paintsEverytime I try my clanrats look like they've used fake tan or something, I hate it but i'm at a loss on what to do
>>93710135Glutos's shooting attack lets you bait out the temptation dice, too.
>>93710588I wouldn't call missing 6 damage a bait.
Gotta say looking at 10th 40k codices I’m really scared GW is going to stiff us on Battletome lore
>>9371064640k codexes haven't had a not copy pasted lore section since 5th edition
>>93710609Sounds like you don't have much experience with 1-shot "trap" weapons. Glutos's has no rend, so unless you're using it against chaff, there's a good chance they're gonna pass the save roll anyway and you'll feel like shit having "missed" your big 6 damage shot. You bait out the temptation dice because it works against their insecurity of possibly taking 6 damage and guarantees them the surety of a 6 save instead of rolling for it.
>>93710677its not a bait, the allegiance ability itself just sucks.
>>93710736Not other anon, but your opinion on an allegiance ability still doesn't change what Glutos shooting attack can be used for. Your opinion and rules are two separate things, like your opinions and your asshole; make sure next time we don't hear either bud.
>>93710790he stated an opinion on the attack you fucking retard.
>>93710563https://eavy-archive.com/age-of-sigmar/skaven/This may help a bit.
>>93701599You got your ass handed to you by france lmao
>>93710840Again see >>93710790 for same answer.
>>93702972Gw graveyard isn't even in the top 30 modular graveyard you can buy and it's also the most expensive.Gw has not done a single scenery to scale or that makes sense.
>>93710925Okay, but it's good and effective wargame terrain which your pic doesn't look like it would be. There's certainly compromises to be made.
>>93709970That's good?You could run Nagash + Morghasts and do okay with OBR. Morghasts are very monstrousy, Nagash is a huge skeleman but probably not what you're thinking when you say monsters.FEC are sucking right now but terrorgheists heavy list are possible.Avengori SBGL which is basically the same thing with vampire centaurs mixed in.Trog gloomspite gitz which is probably gonna get nerfed.Sylvaneth list heavy on tree lords (no idea), Seraphon dino heavy (also no idea how well they're doing).
>>93710667Even votanns lore though, which they needed to introduce and establish an entire new armies lore, was only like 15 pages, it's the thinnest codex I own and it was such a dissapointment it put me off buying codexes forever
my Freeguild come from Chamon
>>93710981Wuz wrong wtih FEC? I have yet to get my guys even built yet but figured I might as well be up to date on em. Ain't changin' my lists since I just want cool shit
>>93711772NTA but aside from Ushoran being auto-take they're actually in a pretty good spot, really the image of a fair and balanced middle-of-the-pack army.
>>93712050Neat, and works since I did grab Ushoran. desu I was originally just grabbing Ushoran just for painting by himself then found some deals for start collecting and an army box and suddenly realized I basically had a big ol' army.
>>93709970This post made by contrast only gang
>>93709970Bonesplittaz...RIP
Anyone else agonize over their color schemes/painting styles? I can't shake wanting to do something gimmicky and outrageous each time.
>>93712136>all monsters>horde army
>>93712184I spent over a month and a half trying to figure out my LRL scheme because I wanted to make phthalo green work, but I just couldn't. I envy people that can just plop out a color scheme, but I need to experiment and tweak shit until it "clicks" with me.
>>93709266>>93709329>>93709351>>93709353Yes they are canon, led by the noble Ushoran
>>93702016it did some work on release, but the meta 3rd ed had a lot of foot hero, infantry, and then magic until the 4th season GHB.since its a lot of dragon and SCE had some other lists. but overall the dragon big boi and a pair of drakes aren't bad and likely viable to show up in lists.
>>93712184Yes, quite frequently. It usually takes getting a bunch of guys knocked out before I feel confident in an army scheme. To the point where I don't have to think I've nailed down the colors, scheme, and details I want.
>>93704177the best purchase is actually nothing. you need to study up, learn your army, and get some mentors for your faction. And probably your army faction terrain. you picked tree shenanigans so learn them. spacing is pretty important in sigmar.learn to magnetize well because you want to be able to swap kurnoth around and switch at least some treelord types around.beetle girlboss will always draw looks so keep that in mind before deciding to paint that shit earlyI've heard from a fantasy paint comp dude that wood might be best primed in a lighter brown first not anything dark
>>93708145its better if you have a trusty local hook up that just wanted the SCE and book, because you can probably get it down to 100
>>93709515>Bretonnians are part of the history of AoS as a setting whether or not you like iIt was all ghouls hallucinating shit
Is there any conversion of Fyreslayers from angery manbabies that wear diapers into The Real Men™ that wear kilts?
>>93712206Ah, missed that bit.
>>93712416not really, there are the warcry team, which do come with 2 handed axe options for the 5 basic guys so you could potentially use them as hearthguard berzerkers.otherwise you may consider printing. artisan guild, titanforge, yedharo, highlands miniatures, and others have all done mohawked dwarfs with pants, artisan guild even has 2 different sets of them, so you can find quite a few if you trawl myminifacotry for a bit. its not hard to find someone to print them for you these days if you dont have a printer
>>93712416there are also some third party plastics you may be able to track down like the avatars of war seekers, though as far as i know they are OOP now and i dont think they have kilts specifically. also i bought a pack and....idk, they dont look great.
Got started on my Path to Glory today. Had Stormcast on Dragons completely throat-fuck my CoS army in about 2 Rounds, but I learned how to play just in general since it was also my first non-Spearhead game.I did get to kill a few dudes so it wasn't a total wash against the meme list. >I'm sure it's a skill issue, but I've always fucking hated playing against SCE. It just feels like I'm being punished because I hit/wound on 4+ with trash rend against +2/+3 saves.
>>93712222Checked. Phthalo green is one of the toughest colors to use pure, the only use I've found for it is mixing it with varying levels of white for verdigris.There's a reason permanent green light and Hooker's green are so popular when artist paints use monopigment whenever possible.
>>93712228>mom look I posted the FEC Bretonnians meme again!
>>93712839It wasn't exactly pure, was trying to use the 2 darkest colors in this set aiming for something like the 2nd or 3rd picture in the guide, but I also wanted metallic armor because colored armor felt a little too much like "football pads". Nothing I did felt "right" when I put paint to the model.
WTF happened to the Gors and Ungors? I cannot find them in the store, imma go on a stampede if they killed the range REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>93712861This is hilarious, I drove myself mad trying to perfect a color scheme that was tarnished metallic brass and verdigris. It's a good color scheme but something about it really activates the brain worms.Are you still working on it? I could tell you what I did, it sounds like you're going for green cloth so not exactly the same but maybe it will help somehow.
>>93712880Anon, I...
>>93712924Nah, I gave up on the green and went with blue instead. Dotting some eyes right now, though.
>>93712880They're fine, they just went to go live on a farm in Shyish.
>>93712928>>93712936Life is suffering, when did they squat the range?
>>93712880Anon, close your eyes and imagine Gors and Ungors , now imagine some big green pastures that's where BoC are now, now they are free.
>>93712943Start of 4th basically. They got Legends'd with Bonesplittaz before we even got the indexes.The models got pulled shortly after, alongside a lot of old CoS stuff.
>>93712943A few months back. Beastmen are a core faction in Old World and will likely be getting a release soon. Next confirmed release is Warriors of Chaos, then High Elves most likely. Following this you will have the likely Beastmen and Wood Elves release pair. Probably by end of year at the latest going by their current release speed. I know it sucks, but look at the bright side. There will be a lot of old Beastmen models available online and made to order, stuff from earlier editions. So you’ll be able to feast.
>>93712955>>93712961>>93712967That is so fake and gay, they better re-release them or I will go on a stampede I swear on me horns. Gors were one of my first minis I ever bought.
>>93712943The start of 4th was the great squat. Half the Stormcast range, Beast of Chais and Bonesplitterz all died for GW greed and the shit of TOW. They will last until this year and then they will live forever in our hearts.
>>93712967>Next confirmed release is Warriors of ChaosWeird they left Slaves to Darkness alone then.>>93712983>Half the Stormcast range, Beast of Chais and Bonesplitterz all died for GW greed and the shit of TOW.>StormcastStormcast in TOW confirmed.
>>93712979It's painful but is real anon, you better desecrared all you want till the end of 2024 after that your cows and goats are going to the farm.
>>93712979The Old World rule book has been out for months. They are in the rulebook. They will be getting a rerelease plus a couple new things plus many old pre AoS sculpts. If you’re a Beastmen player this is a good thing. Range will be expanded if you have a little patience.
>>93712992Stormcast by greedBoC and Bonesplitterz for ToW
>>93712880My understanding is that Beasts of Chaos were removed from Age of Sigmar.
>>93712997>If you’re a Beastmen player this is a good thing>Being kicked out of a whole system for no reason>Good thing???????????????
>>93712995Goats should be free not on a farm.>>93712997>Range will be expanded if you have a little patience.I have no patience right now only bestial rage. But that sounds promising. >>93713011How annoying.
>>93712992They probably left them alone because they didn’t want to use the AoS models for WoC considering the different aesthetic direction they went in AoS. They would look too jarring on a fantasy table with classic hand sculpts. They are also rereleasing a bunch of classic chaos shit that could be proxied in AoS.
>>93712979I'm not 100% certain, but I believe they're fully written out of AoS alongside the Bonesplittaz.Like, I think Archaeon genocided them. The Bonesplittaz just fucked off to kill rats really, really far away.
>>93712997>>93713013A TOW release for an OG faction is a good thing if you're not doing console war bullshit.
>>93713022Yeah a couple new sculpts at least like every army. Personally I’m more hyped for the returning shit. Some real Beastmen classics in the range.
i understand beast of chaos they never were a popular range, but they really needed to kill savage orruks with all the possibilities another flavour of green magic chads could bring to aos? seems crazy to me
>>93713011What about blue birds of unhappiness?
>>93713043Exactly. There’s some people in both game systems that seem to have a legitimate hate of the other game for no actual concrete reason. It’s great to have more fantasy games to play considering how shit 40k 10th is.
>>93713051Ironically those, nobody liked for real, are staying LUL
>>93713070GW marketers seem to have a hardon for them both in AoS and 40k
>>93713051They have been moved alongside the woodpickers of miscontent.
If you could make ONE change to the core rules, what would it be?
>>93713074>GW marketers seem to have a hardon for them both in AoS and 40kNerds attempt to appease the God of Nerds and Reveling In Nerdiness. More info after commercial break.
>>93713051>>93713103For those birds is why we will never have actual cool Tzeentch warriors
>>93713103I’m pretty sure Tzeentch is marketed/pushed the most because he is the most family/advertising friendly. Khorne is blood/gore/death, Slaanesh is sex, Nurgle is rot, decay and disease. Meanwhile Tzeentch is rather inoffensive to non lore nerds.
>>93713111Here's your Primaris Tzaangor/Acolytes
IMO tzeench should have a special faction rule that says all their spells and unbinds automatically succeed. It’s kind of silly that the god of magic can’t give his mages more of a boost.
>>93713120If only anon, if only. Khorne has a whole range of varied warriors, Slaanesh kino sculptures and a good range, Nurgle lacks models but the quality is superb, only Tzeentch is fucking neglected this hard.
>>93713125Just because the spell isn’t cast successfully doesn’t mean Tzeentchs ends haven’t been furthered. In the lore he regularly fucks over his own followers to ensure outcomes, and sometimes because he can’t help it because it’s too funny .
>>93713125>giving the Oops All Wizards army the ability to remove an entire aspect of gameplay >DoT vs DoT is just nerd fisticuffs
>>93713111>For those birds is why we will never have actual cool Tzeentch warriorsDunno, Acolytes and guy in the center look kinda cool.>>93713115The question is: why is GW using same Tzaangors in AoS and 40k? They tend to separate their settings.>>93713125Tzeentch is the God of Giving You Enough Rope To Hang Yourself On It.
>>93713103>>93713115I always thought Khorne and Nurgle were far more prevalent.My totally unscientific survey of the Age of Sigmart booru showsKhorne: 224Nurgle: 124Tzeentch: 90Slaanesh: 17I know it's an invalid metric but it also confirms my hypothesis lmao.
>>93713147>The question is: why is GW using same Tzaangors in AoS and 40k? They tend to separate their settings.Chaos daemons are canonical to both settings. If the same characters are in both places they aren't going to double up sculpts just because.
>>93713051>>93713070i've seen tzaangor painted in other schemes and they look much better. the powder baby blue unironically ruins them
>>93713172It’s not about their occurrences in the system or lore. It’s about outside marketing.
>>93713187The problem is that chaos daemons are also in fantasy while tzaangor are not.
>>93713256The booru is a repository of official art, it has much more in common with marketing than system or lore. I would gauge prevalence in the system by number of models, and lore by the number of novels they're in.
>>93713285It doesn’t matter if it’s art, once again, what matters is content made for external marketing. Meaning marketing that will be seen by non GW consumers.
>>93713308Is there a better measure?
>>93713326External marketing, for the third time.
>>93713329Where do I find "external marketing"? Does AoS have TV ads or banner ads I don't know about?I'm being flip but the magic words "external marketing" don't tell me anything.
>>93712880Beastmen has become a core race in TOW so the higher up has told that AOS can no longer have beastmen in their game and rather then waste resources to create a completely different and original-ish aesthetic for them now they weregors and ungors and every other old beastmen models will be re-release after the high elves get announce on wednesday >>93713051Mono-god beastmen are safe since they exist in the mono-gods faction and will not see them in TOW. So Tzaangors and Slaangors are allowed and they already teased the Pestigor to come for Maggotkin of nurglethe "neutral" beastmen are all TOW exclusive
>>93713374When the hell is empire getting re-released for ToW, I want the old puffy shirts floppy hats instead of the new freeguild stuff.
>>93713382they're last in the list since it High elves-->Beastmen-->Wood elves-->Empirewell probably get the roadmap on wednesday NOVA along with the AOS as well
>>93712754Need to play the objectives
>>93713413fuck.
>>93713474if you dont feel like waiting warlord games has some plastics https://us.warlordgames.com/collections/landsknechtalso plenty of people like highlands minis made empire since its basically just historical germans and italians and cant be copyrighted.
>>93713382>>93713413Yeah most likely last in the list. If we’re going by the esoteric numerological puzzle hidden in the rule books art. Which has been 100% so far. If next race release is High Elves then we will know Empire is last. The reasoning is probably that Empire has the broadest appeal and people who have already bought an army for Fantasy will buy empire in addition to what they already bought. So they are spacing it to give time to save funds.
>>93713493Oooo those are very nice, I'll keep that in mind! Thanks anon.>>93713537Now if only they'd put out some of the weird old character sculpts they fucking will never put out again.
>>93713201I saw them painted in standard flesh tones once and they looked really creepy and cool that way
>>93713565Kinda like when you paint stormcast entirely in flesh tones.
>>93713115>Tzeentch is marketed/pushed the mostHuh? What pararel dimension do you live in? Hes literally the most irrelevant? Only ones people care for unironically are Khorne and Nurgle, then you have Slaanesh for "sex, isnt it funny" crowd, and tzeentch kinda exists on the side
>>93713537>Empire has the broadest appealwerent they one of the least popular factions, slightly better than bretonnians?
>>93713602>>93713565Do you have any pics?
>>93701480>TQI have no idea at all since we always play at home.
>>93713909That's a great shot. Shame about the camera quality, because it's got good composition otherwise.
>>93713070The only beastmen I like lol.
>>93713125Sucks to suck.t. Teclis
>>93713909those units look out of coherency.
>>93713537god, beastmen look so retarded. no wonder they got squatted.
would anyone happen to have the cities battletome/ looking to get the lore from the book. or if someone could lecture me on Hammerhall Gyra thatd be cool too. Building Gyra themed spearhead soon :D
Looking at getting into Stormcast.What are the current top teir units?Units to avoid? (Other than those getting legends)
>>93714296If you can't figure out by yourself, which units are good and which not, you are in the wrong hobby.
>>93713111Not every army needs to have the same cookie cutter roster
>>93714440sure, but cool tzeentchian warriors need to happen, it's the lord of fucking change and there's barely one (1) instance of a mutation
>>93713459Got tabled in the second half of Round 2, so points didn't matter.It went from 8-10 to 8-27 once the other rounds were played out for the sake of quests/whatever.
>>93713374Beasts of Destruction with a Bonesplitters style will come in an edition.
>>9370215930 minutes is not far Anon
>>937021863d print them?
>>93714236Cos book + 4e core thta should have some info too
>>93702186>recasts >convert ghouls buy some 3d printed bone pack and it'll look great
Is Belladama + Torgilius and 40 wolves too strong for a casual 1000pt tournament?The 44×30 board size means my wolves will quickly control the entire board, and eating through 80 wounds being healed and brought back by two wizards is a tall order at this game size.
>>93715240its good but not unmanageable. go for it
leaked roadmap according to tga: >SCE >Skaven >Root Kings>GSG Vs CoS release/box>OBR
>>93715255fuck off
>>93715255Fallowed by a Black Templar AoS releas and kroots for Warcry.Trust me i'm Whitefang's uncle working at Nintendo
Do you ever put easter eggs on your minis that no one is likely to notice?
>>93715255And Bonesplitterz Redux for April 1st!
>>93715291Don't forget Hashut making an appearance to lead Chorfs and obviously being Vashtorr in a fancy mask.
>>93715378No I prefer to spend my time painting things nicely instead of focusing on redditor bait
>>93715378I plan on making a mark of Slaanesh on one of my female Stormcast. Just a little bit of it poking out somewhere.
should we expect anything in the previews this week?
>>93715378No.
>>93715429I use vashtorr as a demon prince proxy.He's the kind of guy you can put next to soul grinder and it won't stand out
>>93715506For the preview show? Remaining new Stormcast Models, roadmaps.For next weeks Pre-Orders? Almost certainly not. Skaven are technically possible but unlikely this soon.
>>93713710slaanesh has the best range by far, its not even close.
>>93714296I mostly agree with this, I don't quite think longstrikes are that good, and I think lord-celestant and lord-cele on dracoth with quicksilver draught and bodyguard is underrated.
>>93715240Its not a fun list at all so why would you even considering bringing it to casuals if you're asking.
>>93715680you may want to read the most recent FAQ update before fielding quicksilver draught
>>93715429He looks very Sylvanethy here
>>93715716It works the way I originally read it as working.
>>93715680Are there unot tier lists like that for other armies?
Is there any website other than the official app where I can build lists for 4e which also have armies of renown available? I mostly use listbot but they don't have it.
Why doesn't it grow an extra pair of arms so it can dual wield the bow and the sword?
>>93715798Not from that channel. There are a few tier list for other factions on some channels from people who are skilled tournament players if you look for them.
>>93715716I thought it confirmed the stronger interpretation
>>93715851Because Alarielle decided all Sylvaneth would be humanoid, even Drycha's crazy ass wasn't able to break away from the template she set for them.
>>93715540Isn't he like twice the height of a DP and like half the width. Genuinely asking as I've never seen vashtorr out in the wild
>>93715932It's been stated in the battletomes that Alarielle doesn't actually decide or even know what newly sprouted sylvaneth will look like.
>>93715949I read that as she doesn't know if a seed is going to be a dryad, wraith, treelord, etc.
>>93715942Nah, he's roughly the size of a daemon prince. His tactical ground fits perfectly on a DP base too
>>93715942He's a lanky boi
>>93716023>>93715975Go figure, for some reason I imagined him being greater daemons sized for some reason
>>93716062he's on par with belakor (less impressive because his wings are tamer and he doesn't have a tactical diorama) but both are smaller than greater demons, including the verminlords who are huge.
>>93716136Post cute art fags
>>93715694I think it's fun, lots of run and charge, resurgence and board control.It's also thematic, Belladama leading her wolves like some studio Ghibli villain.
>>93715255what is a root king? and what about their queens?
>>93716175>I think its fun when I make the game unenjoyable for everybody else
Are there any decent listbuilding tools for 4th yet
>>93716218were using listbot now.
Any bookfags? How was it?
Are vigilors any good or are they gonna get replaced by a better shooting unit on wednesday? Their buff sounds good but not 5 models for 140pts good
Tried 20 blue and 20 pink horrors today. Dear god it was an absolute slog.Not sure how the faction is supposed to kill high save dudes though. Almost nothing has rend and they all hit on 4s and wound on 3s or 4s as well. I suppose you dont need to kill dudes when you out OC them and score tactics?
>>93716930They're ok, if you have 30 points you can upgrade 5 vanquishers to them. They're probably 10 points too expensive or so.
>>93716195Lexicanum is right there
>>93717015Not a Tzeentch authority by any means but I've heard a Tzaangor-focused build is the way to go for damage.
>>93715469No More Thunder where?
>>93717350>>93717350>>93717350New thread, take to take leave
>>93715378Ha! Wish I thought of that
