Previous: >>93740273>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.nethttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>Thread Question/Prompt:What card has your favorite flavor text?
>>93749243>TQ
>>93749243A classic.
Is Otharri better as the commander in a rebel tribal deck or as part of the 99 in a token deck?
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>>93749243>TQthis piece of shit
>>93749291Goddamn I hate this question. It's a supremely powerful card but because it has the word "rebel" on it people's brains turn to mush. To answer, it's much better in a token deck.
>>93749243>What card has your favorite flavor text?
>>93749291Don't build it like a Rebel deck. Build it like an Otharri deck, filled to the brim with protection, extra combats, and Purphoros Effects and watch people get fucked.
>tqShakespeare UB when?
>>93749226probably not big brain enough for blue>>93749228burn and blood moon I guess
Gay Bolas
Straight Bolas
>>93749243>TQLambholt Pacifist advocating for total genocide by werewolves ;v)
Bisexual Ugin
>>93749359what the FUCK is he reading??
>>93749312How is anyone going to get fucked by it, it's very bad
>>93749350Burn is bad in cedh by design, but bloodmoon is incredibly good. Try windgrace land hate if you want to shake things up a bit. Blue requires some thought but it's honestly pretty easy if you get enough reps in.
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>>93749358>>93749359>>93749369
>>93749380>how is a commander that dodges commander tax (on single target removal) and scales even if it gets removed good?
>>93749359Same energy
>>93749374This, the /lit/ classic.
>>93749393He only dodges the tax if you build as a rebels deck which is what you recommended not to do
>>93749303>>93749312>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT HECKIN DO WHAT YOU WANTERONI AND BE CREATIVE!!!! YOU HAVE TO MAKE LE EFFICIENT OPTIMAL STRATERINOOOOOOOO!!!
>>93749400Anon, he makes rebels. You only need to swing with him twice to get around the tax if you so choose.
>>93749412>twice? he makes at least 1 rebel each attack, cast him and swing and you have a rebel (presumably it doesn't die)
>>93749412*removes u're rebels*
>>93749412>BoardwipeOops, ruined that strategy
>comp fags when someone suggests running a commander that synergies with rebels at the helm of a rebel tribal deck
>>93749249You know, I really like mono white, but I was kinda torn with what to do with this card. The design is vague. There’s not enough support for mono white convoke, either. I also have a Kasla deck for convoke. Any other ideas for her? Voltron might be cool with tap effects for protection and buffs
>all the multiplayer lands creeping upreally fucked up that they dont print these into the ground like sol ring
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>>93749243>TQI suppose it's not exactly "Flavor Text", but this line of text from Boldwyr Intimidator is my favorite flavor of all time. I have wanted Coward inducement to be a theme of Warrior tribal cards, but the only other card that does anything like that is Kargan Intimidator.
>>93749457>Creeping upDo you not remember when they were all valued at 20+? That's their true value
>>93749423Oh my bad, I thought he needed two rebels for some reason.>>93749425>>93749433He has haste anon. Or you just stick him in the command zone and do the same thing over again.
>>93749461It's an interesting design space that they have yet to meaningful explore.
>>93749453might be decent in the 99 of my abdel/far traveler deck. a whole part of the deck is reliably getting abdel tapped without attacking so having her in the 99 would give me a hexproof protection spell.
>>93749476Creature types doing more than just being Ability Group A, Ability Group B, etc is interesting, but I think it's something they want to move away from in favor of just sharing keywords and abilities between creature types. Especially with removing "Can't attack" from the wall creature type to the keyword Defender.
>>93749453Thought of something, maybe effects that boost cards that attack aline for the wanderer and a bunch of other cards that can tap to support or do other shit so they can tap themselves whenever they may be targeted. Could be fun
>>93749385>windgracethanks, sounds interesting enough, will look at some lists
>>93749516Yeah, that’s sorta what I was goldfishing. Just took a look at her showcase art. Shame it looks like muddy turbo shit.
Nonbasic hate is only okay if everyone in the group is running a full set of fetches.>Fetches are what pushes multicolor decks above the consistency threshold where they're actually good>Fetches provide 2/3 color decks counterplay to nonbasic hate by letting them search their basics, of which they SHOULD have a lotIf you're running nonbasic hate at a table with no fetches, you're really just dropping a hydrogen bomb on a coughing baby punishing them for running the bad manafix lands instead of better ones.
>>93749630The showcases so far all look bad
Is there a way to build blink that isn't ten minute turn, do nothing cancer? Also, same question for spellslinger.
>>93749631Oh no, multicoloured decks have a draw back. Whatever will we do?
What's /edh/'s most expensive deck? I finally finished a deck I really want but it's sitting at about $650 and scared of buyer's remorse. I only have one upgraded precon at the moment.
>>93749769$650 is too much for a new deck. I either aim for superbudget or around $100 on new brews, if I like the deck i might buy some upgrades later.
>>93749769$1,617.27I never play it
>>93749769Eh, my most expensive deck is probably 4kish, but a lot of that is in unnecessary foils and mox diamond and whatnot. Dont feel too bad, $650 is on the high end of average.
>>93749769I think the most I spent on a single deck was $67 in MTGO
>>93749630Idk I think it looks alright I guess. Would I prefer more full on alt arts instead of this profile/kind of profile view they've been doing? 100% if course. But in terms of those versions this isn't a bad one of those
>>937497695-10k probably. Cedh gitrog and a pimped out sharuum deck I've had for a decade now.
>>93749659No
>>93749778Based, 100 is what I am for too. Building on a budget has honestly made me a better deck builder, I have a more consistent mana base than all of my friends and I use mostly basics
>>93749807It's pretty bad anon. The fuck is going on here.
>>93749769like 850 due to SLD cards and such
>>93749769180 buckaroos...but that is 52 relentless rats
>>93749659Play fast and loose. It's on you to know what you're going to do.
Opened a spicy pack and added another deck to my to build list. Any good arguments for not going monoblue? I'm thinking Jace and labman since I have the former sitting around and have been looking for a deck to put it in.
>>93749769You didn't finish the deck. I only build with what I have and just buy cool cards now and then, draft and get shit for free from my bros. Obsessing over budget is for faggots and that goes for holier-than-thou " I only build on 100 dollar budgets" and investor whales. This discussion should only lead you toward proxying or cancerous xmage/cockatrice land.
>>93749931>Any good arguments for not going monoblue?Why not run green with her since her identity is simic
>calling others holier than though while being holier than though because people dare to talk about something as basic as a budgetRope
>>93749631>Nonbasic hate is always okayfixed that for you anon, you're welcome
>>93749243>retard forgets the name againIt's not that difficult lmao
>>93749769About $3k with some variance due to Tappedout using incorrect editions. It's been my main deck since the 2013 box set and I paid/traded away maybe 1/3 - 1/2 of the present value to get it, the rest is old/RL card hyperinflation that happened while they were already in the deck.
>>93749983>fretting about money>too cowardly to even replyNobody cares how much or little you spend, or how much or little the cardboard you already have is worth to investorfags in the deck you just built.
>>93749665>Yeah I'll just sac games on turn 1 exploiting how my table isn't running an answer that is also a straight upgrade to their deckJust play Go Fish if you want to win every time you draw Ruination/Blood Moon in MonoR.
pyfw your Ryhstic study triggers
>>93750101>nooo don't do the thing that folds my deck in half! that's unfair!Bring removal if you don't like nonbasic hate.
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>>93749931>Any good arguments for not going monoblue?Are you fucking kidding meGreen is the best color and will give you ramp and removal even if you do literally nothing else with it
>>93749631bro we're not at a table playing, gaslighting here does not improve your odds of your greedy ass manabase getting blown the fuck out by harbinger of the seas or blood moon
>>93749950Her main plan is going to be flipping and ulting as quickly as possible to draw the deck, so it needs to focus on draw, protection, and maybe proliferation. Blue has the better options for all of this, and although green has some cards that would work well in the deck I can't think of that many and am worried that such a strong color imbalance would lead to being unable to execute her plan due to either an increased number of irrelevant/unoptimal cards that could be in hand or plain old color screw. I could be wrong and under valuing or ignoring certain green cards, which is why I want people to argue for them.>>93750128>ramp for a one mana commander that wants to spend the first 3-4 turns drawing cards or holding protection>removal barely better than counters or bouncing for the purpose of the deck
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>93749807I think the other alt art is better, but both are unironically worse than the basic.
>>93750112I will not be extorted, I aint paying
>want to pimp out a deck>most of the cards in it don't have cool alternate versions so to get it consistent I'd have to get like 60+ full art alts commissionedit's a painful feeling
>>93749769Most expensive deck is about 1.4k, but that’s also me putting most of my expensive shit I’ve pulled into one deck- shit would be way more expensive if I went out of my way for the best lands and some more fast mana, could also be cheaper if I used different prints of some cards
>>93749769I assume anyone saying 1k+ is an oldfag who has been playing since the 90's. Or absurdly rich.
>>93750152I think you're under valuing green a lot and you're overestimating your ability to flip her and get her ult off
>>93749406Retards like you are the reason why we keep seeing shit like Toxrill slug tribal
>>93750169Based not payer
>>93750173You want to know a painful feeling? Imagine having an 80% pimped deck, then look up how much a foil grim monolith is.>>93750101Are you really complaining about not having fetchlands when they're the cheapest and most accessible they've ever been? I didnt force you to play some ungodly multicolour abomination. I myself play exclusively monocolour decks. Do you want to see real genuine suffering? I run this in my "75%" yawgmoth deck I play with strangers along with tanglewire, pox, and smokestack.
>>93750211which is based
>>9374937450 Shades of Gay, probably.
>white borders>futureshifted frames >shitty question mark set symbolyou ever been jacked off by a monkey paw?
>>93750227>turning off your brain and ignoring every part of the card but the type line is basedAbsolutely not. Lil B would slap you in the mouth for that shit. Tribal is the second lowest form of deck building, above only an unsorted pile of whatever is lying around.
>>93750202That may be true. I've only ever seen her played in brawl, so that's probably coloring my perception of her quite a bit. It was reinforced by edhrec having a minimal amount of green cards listed, which is exactly which I asked here for evidence to the contrary.
>>93749931>>93750152If you must run protection for her, you at least should pack several fog effects. Besides, you're gonna end up with a super boring deck, since you want to have a ton of 1cmc cantrips if you want to optimize the flipping. All that for a relatively mediocre ult.
>>93750253I've got white borders, future sight, alpha/beta, promo cards, UB, all in my deck
>>93750256>>turning off your brain and ignoring every part of the card but the type line is basedCorrect. No different than building a deck based off creature/instant/sorcery/enchantment/artifact/planeswalker. It's a theme.
>>93750253white border sucks
>>93750289Theme decks are only interesting when they're good, or innovative. No one is impressed with the vast majority of theme decks.
>>93750256I have it on good authority that lil b will retweet basically anything with the word "based" in it
>>93750320so can you tell me what type of decks are fine, since all archetypes are apparently bad?
>>93750114>>93750214>Noooo I should be able to windmill slam my instant win stax piece against anyone running a deck with more than one color!!!
>>93750301>t. zoomer>>93750282I don't care about your deck anon, I care about JotC ruining good reprints with an awful set symbol and letting interns offset it on the futureshifted cards.
>>93750227Grug retards are based, but they have power behind their shit at least. Tunnel vision is only based when you refer to the card, not tribalmind.
>>93750346They literally made white border because it was less appealing
>>93749631
>>93750344Yes, you should. Dont like it? Play fewer colours. Multicolour decks are awful from a design perspective. They have next to no flavour, barely any identity they need to build around or weaknesses they need to overcome, and the most pushed commanders ever printed. Monocolour is the true way to play edh; accept no substitutes.
>>93750353And ended up with kino instead. Funny how that works.
>>93750344Contamination doesnt care, either you use black mana or you suffer.
>>93750380Hope you don't mind my 45-minute turn then. Just play a better deck if you don't like it.
>>93750380>play mono black>rely heavily on artifacts>opponent plays stony silence>scoop because black has one answer to this and I already used feed the swarm on another no-artifact cardNot much to overcome, really. I guess you could punch the other player in the face
>>93750344if you run zero basics of a given color in any multicolored deck you deserve to fold to blood moon lmao
>multicolor decks have next to no flavor>omg you dint heckin like white boarders?!?! Z-zoomer!>stop talking about budgets!The IQ of this general is 0. This is the kind of shit that makes people realize you're all retarded and not to give a shit about. You kind of people are the ones who other players don't want at their table
>>93750406I didn't know Blood Moon tutored basics into my hand when it resolves.
>>93750403Mono B is the real struggle. G and W can remove anything, U can counter anything and has good removal staples, R is close but while they need damage to kill creatures and also can't remove enchantments, they shit on artifacts.
>>93750416>G can remove anythingShit only this general can invent.
>>93750419How is that wrong though
>>93750421MonoG can't even answer this card.
>>93750403I play monoblack, you're right that a resolved artifact or enchantment will fuck up your day unless you reanimate meteor golem or some dumb shit. But this is why you go FAST and fuck up their day first; you have all the best tutors ever printed.>>93750392Nah. I just put down a timer on my phone when people start that shit. Cant win in ten minutes? Whoops, guess you can try again next turn.
>>93750427"Sorry sweaty, still my turn. You'll have to wait or I'm calling a judge over."
>>93750426Nice try
>>93750431>judge>edhlol
>>93750407You dont have to post here, salt-kun. Post one flavourful deck with more than 3 colours.
>>93750435Okay I pull out my gun and shoot you because a judge can't DQ me.
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>>93750414Look man you can either run some rocks, lean green, or throw a few more basics in such that you can expect to have one color pip. If all three of these options are so unthinkable for you I guess just quit? Can I rule 0 my enemies to never play edicts because I never want to play anything but my voltron?
>>937504365 color doctor who theme deck with the fourteenth doctor. Having your deck be entirely based off a TV show and themeing it after that show is indeed flavor.
>>93750419>>93750426You're a real buffoon. Non flying creature based board wipes is literally the only answer mono G can't pack, and even then they don't even need to get that creative with answers.
>>93750431You do realize real games have match timers and slow play warnings, right? If you're being disrespectful with people's time playing a nondeterministic combo deck you havent practiced enough to play efficently, you get the timer.
>>93750426Perilous vault/oblivion stone
>>93750446So it doesn't tutor basics like you were implying and your solution is "just have basics in your hand".Fetches alleviate this by giving you 7-10 lands that serve as manafix and transition into copies of your basics after that.
>>93750450Shit is still a flavour; doesnt mean anyone but faggots finds it palatable.
>>93750457Sorry chud, this is the real world. The bird gets the 45-minute turn.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2232738507?t=09h00m45s
>>93750470>not playing arena where this is impossible because the timer doesn't care if you do actions fast.
>>93750475>EDH>Arena
>>93750477>modern showdown>edh
>>93750481You will sit through my 45-minute turn and you will like it.
>>93750470>pioneerI cant help they're too stupid to take out their phone and set a reasonable time limit then call a judge. You cant play 4 horsemen in legacy for the same reason.
>>93750487Except unlike 4 horsemen Nadu meets the clause of advancing the board state.Try again chuddie! I'll need all 45 minutes to slowly reach my win.
>>93750416Honestly I don't think it's fair that green and white get answers to everything and red and black don't
>>93750421NTA but green's mass creature removal is just jank and expensive. They've really only got Monstrous Onslaught, Spinning Wheel Kick, and Ezuri's Predation and maybe a handful of others I'm forgetting all of which cost an assload of mana and don't get you out of every situation the way even a simple Day of Judgement does at half the cost.
>>93750461and their downside is that they don't do that if blood moon or harbinger of the seas is out
>>93750495>[citation needed]Slow play is still a thing, and the reason the bird will be banned. But we both know you're just shitposting because you're mad about nonbasic land hate.
>>93750502ezuri's predation really fucks, tho
>>93750503Most non-retarded players will hold the fetch open until they actually need to do something with it or their turn is coming up. They're not going to instantly crack for a dual and pass.
>>93750532>just hold your fetches up forever in case of hateThis silly argument will never not make me laugh. People fetch when they need the fixing or need a shuffle. No one holds fetches to play around hate, they just fetch basics.
>>93750532Ok, yeah. But most non-retarded players also wouldn't be mad at blood moon turning their fetch into a mountain, since they knew what they were signing up for when they put fetches into their deck. I guess that makes the anon mad about nonbasic hate a retarded player.
im a noob to magic but is there any other game where people so proactively try to downplay their skill? like "oh this deck is jank" and it's just a pile of staples that pubstomps the 7 lobby.
>>93750502It still isn't wrong, the only thing green struggles with is aggressively costed mass creature removal. As good or better than white at removing enchantments and artifacts and it's creature removal is underrated in fighting, deathtouch combat tricks and Beast Within, Kenrith's Transformation and Song of the Dryads.
>>93750541>Turn 1/2>Crack fetches for fix on end step>Turn 2/3+>Crack fetches for basics because they're not susceptible to hate and you know someone is playing enormous amounts of nonbasic hate because he's autistic and thinks decks need to be monocolor in a format that started with 3c decksI know playing around Wasteland is a foreign concept to EDH players but Legacy players had this one figured out a while ago.
>>93750502The Great Aurora deals with everything
>>93750550The problem is there is a MASSIVE gap in the skill of players, particularly a new player's ability to evaluate the power of a strategy. In general, the rule is:>precon is about a 5>a "7" has just about everything but fast mana or an optimal commander. This includes combos as a wincon.>8-9 are strong decks that might be missing some uber expensive cards, but generally has fast mana and a strong gameplan that can win through interaction.>10 is the cream of the crop; everyone has fast mana and a great strategy. No expense is spared, they're using the best commanders in the format and can play through multiple players of free interaction.
>>93750545Fetches are exactly the situation where it's okay to run nonbasic hate because decks with few colors can still consistently fix and retrieve basics after.
>>93750580>Kinnan with no Mox/Rituals is a 7>Precons are a 5This would mean every single deck I've made is a 6.
>>93750550This genuinely happened to me several times apparently. I built a Bonny Pall deck with Keruga as companion and I used only shit I had already aside from Bonny and Keruga, which I bought specifically for the deck. It was intended to be a casual deck but it ended up stomping. Same thing happened with my Shelob deck, but I have no actual frame of reference for that, just one of my friends said that it's too powerful.I tend to build grindier decks and I rarely have mana problems because I run a lot of ramp, so I get to cast big spells more consistently and faster.
>>93750559That's what I said? >>93750583Then you should probably run fetches in a multicolour deck. Who'd have thought?
>>93750550Yes it's also the only format where people massively downplay problem cards that actively damage every game they touch, which is why the RC is able to just not ban shit anymore.
>>93750597>Kinnan>Not an optimal commander
>>93750605This whole argument started because someone said you should run Blood Moon at every possible opportunity to punish 5c value piles, even if you're playing against a 2c precon with a dogshit manabase.
>>93750597Yup, sounds about right.
>>93750615He's not even the best simic commander anymore, so technically yes.
>>93750616Yes, you should. Where is the problem here? If you have a shit mana base, run more basics. Use green to grab basics. Play some rocks. It's not hard to play around, especially in 2c, dont be greedy then whine when you get punished.
>>93750615Kinnan without fast mana is nowhere near the same thing as kinnan with fast mana.
>>93750610A problem card is not as clear cut in some cases and is dependant on meta and it's players. Many people for example would say that Rhystic Study is a problem card, but much like Tempt cards, they're problems only when you play with retards, which makes the players the problem, not the cards themselves. Way back Mogis was deemed a problem card in one of my playgroups, because it's (or was) hard to interact with and when the games drag on, the 2 damage a turn accumulates quickly.
>>93750621I kinda wish that I wouldn't have seen Kinnan anymore after Nadu became a card, because Kinnan's ugly mug really bothers me, but I forgot that people also play it in the 99 of several UGx decks too.
>>93750583Fetches definitely reward you for playing nonbasic hate, but it's permissible at any time to fuck with someone's nonbasic land. Those cards exist in the player's deck for a reason, and that reason is to try and win the game >ohhhh but the manabase in my precon is very bad it's very mean to shut off my pips!precon manabases have lots of basics in every pip
>>93750645Rhystic is probably the worst example you can give of this.>Low power players are idiots and don't pay the 1, wins the game>Mid power it's a one-sided Sphere of Resistance for half the table, then one idiot doesn't pay the 1, wins the game>High power it's a one-sided Sphere of Resistance when every point of mana matters. It's a devastating one-sided stax piece that requires no deckbuilding investment. It also wins you the game if anyone's win attempt ever fizzles because people tend to not pay the 1 if they think they're going to win/lose that turn.
>>93750654"It's okay because my opponents are trying to win the game" is not acceptable reasoning in a format where autistically lowering your deck power for no real reason is the only reason every game isn't a cEDH slog.
>>93750510Find an example of a Nadu player being disqualified for slow play because his combo doesn't advance the board state.
>>93750676the only autistic person here is you anon, you've missed social cues. the game is meant to be played, and blood moon is not by any means powerful enough that it will turn your deck into a cedh slog. you've failed the most basic problem of mtg in that someone has interacted with you and you have no response but to whine about it
>>93750672Just run Chains of Mephistopheles if you don't like Rhystic
>>93750580this just feels like 8-10 are reserved for what could be covered in a single cdh tier list with 10 being reserved for the single or two top decks.
>>93750672We already had this argument about rhystic. The answer is run removal. Or warset. Figure it out, you know the solution.>>93750687No. A venser deck with a crypt isnt the same as an urza deck with every fast mana, which isnt the same as a polykraken urza deck. There's a lot of nuance and thousands of dollars between them.
>>93750685That's why most cEDH decks run Chains, right?
>>93750684>The game is meant to be playedOkay and I am going to play it during my 45-minute Nadu turn. Sorry you're not enjoying it but that's just how it is when I'm better than you. You were trying to win so I put cards in my deck that don't let you win.
>>93750702>Just run removalAny creature that dies to Doom Blade can therefore be unbanned in every format.
>>93750709sorry, you scooped when blood moon resolved like an hour ago.
>>93750709Enjoy your slow play warnings.
>>93750716In edh? Yup, pretty much. I cant think of one banned creature that deserves it and if banned as a commander came back wouldnt be fine in the 99.
>>93750702yeah and a koma deck sans mana crypt isn't the same as a Deadly Disguise precon with the taplands swapped out for basics. lot of spergs out there calling things jank when the only actual glue to their decks are smothering tithes and docksides
>>93750719Chud... Chud? Are you there? Do you have a response to my 52nd Nadu trigger this turn? You were daydreaming again about how this game would have gone if your Chud Moon resolved.>>93750725Advancing the board state. Not slow play. Keep sitting there chuddie. Tournament rule 4.4
>>93750754who's daydreaming? this whole argument started when you said running blood moon was wrong against lower power decks, if you were playing nadu I'd be fully justified in running blood moon
Is running OG Rocco as secret tamanoa an acceptable use of tutor in the command zone?
Recommend some spicy tech for Naya Norin
>>93749243Been thinking about my idea for a format more since last thread. General idea is 2014 era Commander (EDH but no cards from m15 and onwards) the more i consider the funner this sounds. Would other anons like this? What decks would you play?
>>93749769220have 9 decks, all in the ball park of 100-200I don't win very often
>>93749631Don't care, didnt read. Play more basics.
>>93750289incorrect. typeline matter has way more limited cardpools, making tribal decks homo(geneous)
>>93751098Depends on the tribe. Humans have massive variety, as do dragons.
>>93751100so there is a difference
>>93749769Two decks both around low $1400, Monoblue Urza and Esper Knights with Sidar Jababy. If you're making a new brew, I don't think you should make $650 your starting point, get upgrades later if you like the way the deck plays. I made that mistake with 300+ spent on an Orzhov deck I promptly disassembled when I realized the fun was just not there for me.>>93750112pic related>>93750407Wait, people unironically liked white border? They don't bother me anymore but as a kid I straight up kept them in separate boxes from my other cards and they're still there. Kind of funny actually, I had a Mana Vault, Blood Moon, and Grave Pact in there and found it recently. If X Edition foils which gave them black border weren't so expensive, I'd pick up stuff like the Terese Static Orb or other cards like that.>>93751087based and OG blood moon-pilled. Whenever I build Red I try to find the lowest amount of colors (1-2) so I can play Blood Moon reliably and either not hurt myself or count my nonbasics against my mountains so it doesn't matter. Ruination, Shivan Harvest, and Demolition Field seem to always catch salt.
Came up with an idea called called Elder Dragon Highlander Plus.In a throwback to classic EDH, your commander has to be an 8 cmc legendary creature that was first printed before Alara (when mythics were first printed) (though Alara itself isn't the issue, but rather really nasty cards that came soon after like Vorinclex, Avacyn, and Griselbrand)This adds a lot of cool cards like Akroma, Baron Sengir, Bosh, and some Ravnican and Kamigawan legends. It also works out that if you want to play three color, you still have to use an Elder Dragon.Nobody will probably ever try it but it sounds fun
>>93751168I'd play it, a great excuse to use my Akroma as commander.
>>93751168It sounds soulful, but you probably ought to restrict the cards in the deck to be Pre-Alara as well, otherwise it will be the same piles with a different face. You might also consider pre-Scars of Mirrodin, since that's when WotC started printing commander cards, or pre-original mirrodin, which is the Premodern cutoff.
>>93749359Fuck yeah
>>93751335It turns out, PreDH is a format which is basically what I described. Everything up until New Phyrexia is allowed, but nothing after that because the next product was the first commander deck set. It seems like fun.
>>93750407And this is why I can get a continuous source of screencaps without saying a word. This is a hell of your own making and I'm laughing all the time.
>>93751400extremely retarded cut off point
all this hate for blood moon and it doesnt even bother my Omo deck with zero basics
>>93751504based omo chad
>>93751500The cut off point is exactly when they started printing commander decks. Predh has no command tower or cards that reference the command zone or colour identity.
>>93751520Just ban those commander decks then instead of cutting out two of the most popular and beloved sets of all time. I'll play your shit format when it has RTR and Innistrad.
>>93751526Neither of those blocks is worth keeping.
>>93751547Not if you want players I suppose.
What's the best waifu/coomer deck? I'm guessing some vampire or angel deck?Don't worry about the price I'm using all proxies and for fun with friends
>>93751526Are you the same guy who pitched a fit over Premodern not including Ravnica? The entire point is that it's EDH from before Commander took over the game and had a bunch of retarded shit printed specifically for EDH.
>>93751569We don't want you and your ilk.
>>93750380my Hazezon desert deck is packed to the gills with flavor and is probably the most synergistic deck I've ever made. Maybe you just suck at deckbuilding
>>93751595angel since all angels are female.
>>93751636list? ive had dessert on my mind
>>93751689https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6579801#paper
>>93751595It can be whatever you want it to be.
>>93751768need this but for goblins
>>93751780I REALLY want to make a proxy Goblin waifu deck helmed either by Muxus or second Krenko, just FILLED with bratty green shortstacks, but I know my playgroup would hate me doing so...
>>93751822Fuck em
>>93749291Put it in another deck that cares about experience counters.
>>93751768How do I do this and not have my group look at me funny?
>>93751918>Fuck emWell, one of them IS my girlfriend... Honestly, the hardest part will not proxying softcore porn on cards, because the artists I like that draw goblins seem to have a hard time drawing them with enough clothes or non-lewd situations.
>>93750550It's because 100 card singleton introduces a lot of randomness. Even a jack deck can fuck if you get t1 land - sol ring -signet and everyone else is on a basic
>>93751948If your girlfriend isn't down with you liking gobbos then it is never ever gonna work in the long term.
>>93751948i know this feel
>>93751959She's down with the gobbos, just less with softcover porn. it the other players I worry most about, especially my best friend. He is, under no uncertain terms, is a prude and can be REALLY cringe about it.>>93751969Tell me about it.
>>93751612>The entire point is that it's EDH from before Commander took over the game and had a bunch of retarded shit printed specifically for EDH.What? Innistrad was absolutely not designed with commander in mind, if it were they would have printed a werewolf legend to tie all of those creatures together. RTR's guild leaders and maze runners are basically an even 50/50 split of playable and just jank, nothing outpacing other already strong commanders in there. More or less on par with the first set of Ravnica guild leaders and their lieutenants. PreDH can legalize whatever they want but saying RTR and Innistrad were designed for commander is pants on head retarded.
hurricane was such a good fit into my already pretty juicy multani grouphug suprise win deck. i won both games i've played since adding it by using it for lethal off a big ramp line like pic rel. so far i have the hardest time against mill decks but as long as i dont mill praetor's counsel i can maybe still pull out ahead.this is the most underrated mono green commander
>>93751948Pls sauce artists
>>93751768Sauce?
Wtf wizards?
>>93752265me
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/WGqWAjZPyUeKS0-T_i0_LQCan any anons give me some pointers to make this deck work? It's too slow and gets stomped into dust before it can get up and running. Besides some better mana, what are some good defensive creatures to keep the heat off me during the course of a game?
>>93752326Well just saying I would buy prints of these
Why is this in the top 100
>>93752458They're kind of hot.
>>93752458>draw-go with upside in the two most removal heavy coloursI wonder
>>93752458It's a precon commander, innit? Also a cute girl.
>>93752458They cute.
>>93749243>TQThe all time classic
>>93749243>TqFor me ots always been this. Rough that the Terese version changed the flavor text
>>93752442Buy?The pdf is right there, just print them yourself and stick 'em in a sleeve. I made them in like thirty minutes with some AI-genning and mtg set editor.
>>93752663What did you use to Gen?
>>93752672NovelAI, artist tag is vanripper.
>>93752663did you make them just to post on here or do you actually use these?either way, based
>>93753235I use 'em, I made a Sidisi deck that creates a good amount of zombies. I like genning images and using them for tokens, and I'm degenerate enough that I don't give a shit what people think. And frankly, anime monster girls are hardly that weird. Here's the tokens I made for my elf deck, some AI pics and some other stuff. They're fun to do.
>>93753295Got any female goblins?
>>93753311Sorry, no. I haven't built a deck that uses goblin tokens so far, so never made any.
>>93749388Would love to see a updated version of this, thing would be bigger then the Codex Gigas
>>93750419Beast within?
>>93750621Aside from Nadu, whos better?
>>93751168Absolutely, power creep is a bitch
>>93752281Literally cancer
>Fastbond buyoutI fucking love insider trading
>>93753700Are you implying it's getting unbanned? Bold of you to assume the RC will do anything besides "No changes" and talk about DEI initiatives.
I cast pic rel on a player, they draw cards and lose life at the same time, which would put orcish bowmaster triggers on the stack. A player scoops as soon as I cast pact on them, then the players at the table argue that the spell fizzles and I don't gain life, nor do I get any orcish bowmaster triggers, and I am not allowed to reselect targets either. I told them that if they were going to be sorelosers, they could continue to blow each other.
>>93753736The people that started tracking cEDH are basically splitting off and doing their own banlist
>>93753819Source? I could actually be convinced to play cEDH if the banlist wasn't so retarded.
>>93753887https://x.com/CatanEthusiast/status/1829172789993205851
>>93752281Any measure of QA would see that the restriction should be cast from hand
>>93753819The edhtop16 people? Will primetime return?
>>93753917Rhystic banned but not Dockside kek
>>93753917these fucks dont understand that they'll just join the pile of dead bodies called commander variants.
>>93754145This. No one will play their retarded format because no one knows who these people are. All custom banlists are dumb; half the fun of edhnis using cards I cant use anywhere else.
>>93754145cEDH isn't exactly alive. Decks even in cEDH are less optimized than the average 60-card format and part of that comes from the format just being extremely sacky so it's harder to tell when underperforming is due to a card rather than clown format.
>>93754135They're 99% on banning Dockside, but haven't publicly announced it yet
>>93754163It's mostly commander only players having no idea how to play the game, sp their deck design choices are utterly fucked. And add to the fact that you have no sideboards, so a deck that's prepared for the local meta will have a main deck advantage over decks that dont.
>>93753917I hate cedh but this ban list is genuinely better than anything we would get from the fucking DEI RC
>>93754163cEDH is a power level. you dont create a new format called precon commander because you dont like universes beyond decks playing against your shitty deck.
>>93749769My Nazahn deck is 3 grand and people have seethed at me because "Why would you spend that much money on a dogshit commander just build cEDH bro."
>>93753917>Leovold unbannedIts time.
>>93753917>Rofellos unbannedSIMIC REALLY NEEDED ANOTHER TOOL IN THE 99
>>93749769>Jeweled Lotus>Memory Jar>Wheel of Fortune>Time Spiral >pack foil Rhystic Study>Chrome Mox>Mana Vault>Mana CryptIt's not complete until I get my Timetwister and Volcanic Island
>>93754214You know, the regular rc could just unban these cards and no one would complain.>>93754240Except this guy, but he'd complain about anything.
>>93754268>You know, the regular rc could just unban these cards and no one would complain.I know but they won't. The RC is no longer active. They meet like once before any set and look if any new mechanic breaks stuff so bad i.e. Companion so they need to make a rule.If you want to make changes you need to grab the entire format and attack RC directly. not go for the power level you prefer to play.wotc refuses to work on a commander ban list due to no data available.
>>93754214Wrong
>>93754304Lol even saffron olive knows the rc doesn't do shit
>>93754304The RC is just a scheme to enable its members to be content creators in youtube and shill for money. It has nothing to do with monitoring the EDH format. It is just a front for useless leftoids and trannies.
>>93754365I dont know a single member of the RC by name or their advisory group except Sheldon.
>>93753783They are right. Scooping doesn't use the stack and when person scoops, all the shit they said DOES happen. Sorry you were to shit to be prepared for someone jumping on the grenade to save the table.
>>93754374You probably know the crazy milf Olivia Gobert Hicks.
>>93754398"Crazy" and "milf" together is an oxymoron
>>93753917https://x.com/luastardust/status/1829187581164102075>how can I make this about minorities
I'm pretty sure if a group like Reid Duke, Kai Budde and Gabriel Nassif stepped up and decided to force their way into the RC they would replace the entire group and be acknowledged by the community. All you need is fame to make a change.
>>93754398I dont know her but googled her.Isn't she the chick banging Brian Kibler?
>>93754207>DEIJust say nigger, chud
>>93754207there's "people" already trying to push DEI
>>93754268*fingers asshole*Uhh I cast Channel outplayed loser
>>93754304Reminder that members on the RC let Dockside and Jewish Lotus slide but want to ban Commander Damage because "its unfun and too complicated"
>>93754512remember that Kristen Gregory, member of the RC Advisory Group and former Pokemon pro player, has this opinion.
>It's not okay for YOU to run commander staples or popular commanders because they're boring and you're boring, but it is okay for ME to run dockside and smothering tithe and demonic tutor for my s e c r e t c o m m a n d e r because MY decks are fun and interesting and I need them in order to compete at casual tables
>>93754601Literally who?
>>93754398Does she have breast implants? It's weird to think that some bimbo is playing this autistic format.
>>93754600What does this mean? Does this person mean gaining life can buy you another turn vs combat based decks and thus it is an extra turn card?
>>93754629yes. may I present to you the 1 mana time walk? its still commander legal btw.
What are some good looking bascis for an Orzhov deck?
>>93754601literally me
>>93754648How do you sacrifice power for knowledge when knowledge is power?
>>93754600She's a former pro pokemon player?
>>93750716This is why leovold is banned
>>93754648That's kind of funny, I like that approach to thinking about the game even though it's basically just wrong. At least this person is thinking about what the card could potentially do in a very narrow situation.
>>93754228Dies to doom blade
>>93753783>>93754396This is the most pussy take I’ve ever seen. How petty and spiteful do you have to be to abuse forfeiting to stop spells and abilities from resolving. I’ve let plenty of people get what they want when someone scoops, such as a sword combat trigger. Passive aggressive max
>>93754601This guy has some really bad takes
>>93754601>I had a bad experience on Spelltable>I entered a room that said "no infinites" then performed an infinite and got called outI honestly don't know how he's this autistic
>>93751087I don't put trash like blood moon and ruinition in my decks because it can't kill basics. I just use boom // bust and epicenter. Don't like it? Get good and play artifact mana. Those cards exist in my deck for a reason nub
Has anyone played any of the offensive cards after they were banned? Did anybody react in any way?
>>93754600>Advisory committee makes a tongue in cheek twitter post >Autists: "but it's not LITERALLY an extra turn spell!"I think the implication of her(?) post is actually correct, pic related and Whip of Erebos are amazing cards in the average EDH meta.
>>93754793I cast Stony Silence nice artifact mana loser
>>93754798Most people only recognize Invoke Prejudice. They're all kinda terrible and not very notable.
>>93754600In pokemon, gaining life is like drawing extra prizes!
>"anon you cant play an infinite combo deck"Well you see, when you demonstrate a loop you need to specify the number of iterations, which is explicitly finite. 100ish is nowhere close to infinity.
>>93754600>>93754802Is this why WotC is printing Screaming Nemesis in Duskmourn? Because apparently lifegain is so strong it's unanswerable?
>>93754798my question is why not make a non racist version of them? except maybe gypsies
>>93754809You cast it on your own artifact mana?
>>93754834Because the cards are all kinda terrible gameplay-wise so there's not any real demand for them beyond the novelty of being "racist" cards according to WotC.
>>93754802Dont make up excuses for these faglords and their bad takes. It's not "tounge in cheek", it's just dumb. Like the guys who equate mana with turns. Or the guy who thinks rhystic is a one sided sphere of resistance.
>>93754837Yeah because I cast Heroic Intervention in response to your MLD attempt. Enjoy your enchantment removal in red while you struggle to rebuild.
>>93754802>tongue in cheekThere's a thread where she defended it, it was absolutely not tongue in cheek. Don't white knight for these people
>>93754764>killing a Sultai creature with something that literally says "Destroy target nonblack creature" in its textAnonReally?
>>93754837Its called flash, also I cast marauding raptor and polyraptor, with infinite mana and counters in hand. Additionally, Ive hired kyle, a thug from craigslist to break the hypothetical knees of anyone who wins This imaginary game of magic
>>93754798If you put cleanse and invoke prejudice in your deck and start loudly talking about the 2nd amendment and woke you're just another flavor of assburgerz
>>93754843then why do they keep printing terrible cards today then anyway
>>93754793>He says this when the color with the most land destruction is also the one with VandalblastNot falling for that one. If you want to play a faggy control deck be upfront about it. Don't pretend you're balancing the format somehow by making your wincon blowing up everyone's mana and taking 8 turns to actually win.
>>93754853So you're saying MLD has counterplay?>Just draw basicsnoooo what if I don't :(>Just draw your 1 copy of teferi's protectionhaha ownd fgt
>>93754878The claim: Improving the draft experienceThe real reason: Pack filler so people need to pull more to get rares and mythics they want
>>93754863Thesis proven: Its impossible to say something so stupid that people were realize it was a joke.Believe it or not, I was only pretending :^)
>>93754897so they could have done it then instead
>>93754864Yeah? Well I'm not a virgin and all my cards are proxies
>>93754880I'm balancing the format by blowing you the fuck out with my mono red deck. Why don't u go back to super mario?
>>93754601which video was that i dont feel like skipping through all his garbage
>>93754913They could but they won't because that kind of decision would be messy in the rules where you're only allowed to use specific printings of black-border cards. I imagine it would be a mess for WotC PR department too since it could easily be spun as "WotC legalizes racist cards" even though they're really not a problem.
>>93754920>anon can only claim to he a non-virgin in a an imaginary hypothetical of a trading card game on peruvian llama ranching forum
>>93754927C... Chu... CHUD! WAKE UP! It's your turn!
>>93754955Conversion didn't beat my mono red deck because I flashed in taniwha to phase out all my lands. I untap and cast rite of replication kicked, targetting inferno titan. Take 16?why are you calling me chud? My name is Ian
>>93754945Ur mom's not a virgin either faggit
>>93754973Chud! Blue is not in your red commander's color identity and you can't cast blue spells with white mana. We've talked with you about this before! Now we're going to have to rape and kill you.
>>93754996Every deck is red white and blue because this is america
>>93755016Then that means your monored deck is communist, making you a traitor.
>>93754802>the average EDH meta>lifelinkwhat fucking meta? even my biggest casual jank deck tries to fling 80+ damage at you on t6 without any infinite combos. not to mention the hundreds of alternative wincons and combos that everyone like making you draw your entire deck, unblockable commander damage, infinite turn/burn/token loops. where the fuck is lifelink in this supposed meta?
>>93755016>I thought this was amurricaI support this.
There are two types of edh players: those who play the binding of isaac and those who do not.
>>93754264Post your list.I recently also built Arjun with a ton of draw triggers and cantrips
Is voltron a viable archetype for mid-power level pods, or just super casual? I'm thinking of playing a skullbriar deck.
>>93755153>Cringe game made by a fat atheist and is full of piss and shit
>>93755153Top 5 most overrated games
>>93755058in actual jank meta. where you don't do thatbelieve it or not but they exist
>>93755207What are the other 4?
>>93755178>>93755207What decks do you guys play? I have a guess.
>>93755058post listI bet it's not casul
>>93755271Roguelites are shit and the dissonant cutsey and edgy style is atrocious. Deal with it. Right now I only have Volrath, Radiant, Umbris and Yedora built.
>how dare timmy try and play dinosaur tribal>he should fucking know better in building a deck>better ruin his evening by running lockdown pieces that might just fuck random people over, it's about sending a message!!Why not just go back and play modern/legacy? You guys miss the whole point of the format.
>>93755271What's your guess
>>93755344Yup as expected.>>93755388Decks that prioritize things that arent mechanics at a lower power level.
>>93755383in this hypothetical that totally didn't happen to you. how else I, the gigastax am supposed to win?
>>93754832Lifegain is a shit mechanic in the first place, at least put a cap on it. Not everyone is playing a combo deck and when your opponent has 100+ life in a casual pod (where EDH is supposed to be you retarded twats), it means most of the time that player has the highest chance to win. So I hate to say it but that tranny has a point, although it sounds retarded in the bigger picture.
>>93755509>gigastaxBrother! You and I share the warrior's spirit.
@93752242shut the fuck up. stop tipping people off this commander exists, he MUST be gatekept
>>93755526>t. retardIf you cant win with 40 life, 60 more life wont help you at all.
>>93754614Hard to say for sure from this pic, but she looks like she has a lift up.
>>93755157No list but can type the gist of it. Its actually artifact/Cheerios based. Using things like Hurkyl's Recall and Retract will increase your hand count while you plop out eggs. The wincons are about what you'd expect, just I chose the cheerios route since you have some leeway with things like Welder to turn off Alhameret's Archive or retrieve your Psychosis Crawler.
okay kids, listen up>Nadu was supposed to enable flash>deemed problematic>changed last second>RC claims to advise wotc directly on cards being okay for commander>prophet of kruphix is banned because it enables players to play on opponent turn>og Nadu was deemed problematic for the same reason>RC advised wotc to change og Nadu>RC is responsible for destroying Modern and Commander
>>93755534That doesn't change the fact that the game is only getting sloggy and artificially long, which in fact means that there were more turns due to it.
>>93755569I may be (more than a little) drunk but sounds to me like your issue is that you dont play things that win the game.
>>93755534Yes, it means exactly that because in casual pods combat matters a lot and the more you can take, the higher chance you have to eventually grow your board and win, or at least win through attrition.
>>93755568Old Nadu was a shit idea to begin with. Amonkhet had a colorless subtheme for Simic. Why not just do that? Just copy the text of Bounty of the Luxa River, word for word, onto his text box and keep the art, P/T, name. Boom. Theres your Simic Commander.
>>93755271What decks do you play faggot
>>93755568it's the seedborn muse effect not the flash part that got prophet banned
>>93755610Guess. Betcha cant. I'll accept either specific commanders or general strategy.
>>93755628you post it like the other anon did and they they say if their guess was right just like you did
>>93755612No. It was both put together and the card being like $3 at the same time they printed kruphix and the eldrazi retrains.>t. Guy who ran it.
>>93755643Kek
>>93755648why is flasher teferi not banned
>>93755526Your commander has 0 power and you have no buffs? Beacon of Immortality was banned before P9 until commander damage rule was implemented.
>>93755643Sure. Ordered from weakest to strongest:>Mimeoplasm. Doesnt run a single nonbasic, in general it's just stuff I had lying around to play with new players. Mostly I want to fallen shinobi or grist some fools.>Slobad. I've had this deck for over a decade. Used to be darietti, then bosh.>Yawgmoth, I built this deck to play with "75%" players. Lots of scary cards but folds to pressure, enchantments, or artifacts.>Urza. I've played monoblue for over a decade as well, and upgraded it slowly over time with a bunch of fancy foils. I frequently use it in tournaments.
>>93755663That shit has 3 pips of devotion and doesnt untap everything.
>>93755723in mono deck that's no problem altho it is more expensive to cast than what nadu would have been but I don't think it would've eaten a ban just because of flash
>>93755705Yup as expected.
>>93755773What's your guess
>>93755773What did you expect?
>>93755783>>93755795I expected you would be a nogames faggot
niice
>>93755804But I do play games? Why else would I have built two decks for other players and one deck for tournaments?
>>93755691There are many occasions when commander damage will not save you like if it is not the central combat piece or it gets locked out of the game after several removals.
people always brag about all the nonbasic hate they run but my 5c eldrazi deck had maybe 10 basics and the few times I actually encountered a player with nonbasic hate they got smashed out by the entire table.Idk what universe you guys are playing in where you're owning people with blood moon but it certainly isn't this one
>>93756067mld players are lepers of the community, all the posts you see about running back to basics are just larpers seething and making up fantasies because they got booted out of yet another store
>>93755968If a deck is doing nothing but lifegain, commander damage is an inbuilt out if they lose board control. That's why Beacon got unbanned the moment the rule was implemented even though creatures were comically dogshit back then.
>>93756067In higher power groups it frequently wins games or forces opponents to completely change their game plans.
>>93756074This is the ideal form of nonbasic hate. I wish there were more cards like this.
>>93756146>In higher power games it*sharts out dockside or swan song*
>>93756067I played my auntie blyte deck and an ur dragon, two other basic bitch decks had nothing but non-basics, so I turn 2’d bloodmoon and then killed them with ojer axonil, mana barbs, magebane lizard, ankh of mishra, and ancient runes
>>93756218I dont play these gay hypothetical games. I'm just explaining why it's good; take it or leave it.
>>93756331These aren't dumb hypotheticals these are two of the most-played cards in the game for high-power. It doesn't change shit, otherwise Magda decks would have a higher winrate.
>>93756067My pod aren’t bitches, and it’s fun on spelltable.
New fren joined our session today with his first deck he bought himself.He did nothing but play like 4 removals followed by 3 board wipes, one every turn yet complained about my elesh norn making his commander a little smaller.This was dreadful. All 3 of us just sat around the entire match while he kept wiping.
>>93756426Sounds like you need to git gud.
HEY TRANNY JANNY WHO BANNED ME FOR “OFF TOPIC” BECAUSE I POSTED A CARD EDITED TO SAY “EXILE TARGET TRANS. U A MAN”YOU CANT STOP ME AND YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN
>>93756074>Booted out of the storeIn reality everyone is finally waking up to you fags playing your ultra pushed greedy 2 billion dollar land bases and wondering why we allowed you to gas light everyone into never targeting the most fragile part of your decksIf I see a gaea's cradle, urborg, cabal coffers or anything else like that I'm nuking the non basics. Always run wave of vitriol, ruination, price of progress in every deck I can
>>93756495What is there to git gud about endless board wipes?
>>93756067I won with keldon firebombers ONCE and I've been chasing that high ever since
Can someone post the salt calculator link?
>>93756426You're in white wheres your second sunrise and faiths reward?
>>93756495>>93756555Don't reply.
>>93756531This post is proof that the average EDH player is retarded and would rather create non-games than run spot removal.
>>93756426sounds like he is too based 4u
>>93756555second sunrise, sure, I could.. but faiths reward? Nah, that's just stacking power. What's next, adding 5 tutors to my deck and all the sac lands?
>>93756575Hardly, he agreed to in the end that the match was horrendous, even for him. He is planning on taking a few board wipes out.
>>93756589oh, yeah. removing them would make him hardly based you right
>>93756609Well he just didn't get to play the game. His turn, he plays a board wipe, ends his turn. He didn't have much fun either
>>93756615playing spells is playing the game. sounds like someone is trying to lie to someone to gain an advantage
>>93756629What's there to play when your own board gets annihilated each turn?
>>93756574>Non gamesLmao I've never made a deck that didn't have at least half the mana base as basics and if it's a mono color deck almost all the lands are basics. Sorry nobody is letting you have 30 mana on turn 2 and running away with the game
>>93752364Crawlspace and Silent Arbiter can shit up people's attempts to attack you, and you can work in those annoying enchantments like Propaganda>>93756074desu I still need to find a slot in my Urza deck for Back to Basics now that you mention iti'll see how it plays today and if I feel like I need it in addition to Static Orb and Winter Orb I'll throw it in
>>93756638the next wipe. he doesn't need to take them out, just make them one sided with either indestructible permanents or whatever else. that's what this game is these days anyways
>>93755178>Opposed to to numagics current authors, which aren't?>>93755153Card game is pretty kino, something there for everyone and will feel very familiar with some of its mechanics.
>>93756576If youre not willing to punish his plays don't come here bitching that he spams the winning move. Second sunrise will unfuck the board but faiths reward sets you up to face fuck him
My carefully crafted deck that I haven't had the opportunity to upgrade for a couple months has been consistently crumpling to recent precons, and it makes me feel pretty bad.
>>93756718played it once and went infinite on a drop of a hat. I bet mcmuffin is a pubstomper who goes around combo winning with casual randoms
>>93756787well you said it yourself. you need to upgrade monthly
>>9375664030 mana on turn 2 is coming from cards that aren't lands.
>>93756779>face fuck himBut then that's not commander. That's just meta gaming. We are playing commander
How about Tectonic Reformation with Astral Slide/Drift for a boros deck? Is that anything?
>>93755235BotW/TotKTLOU (1 and 2)BioShock Infinite God of War (reboot and Ragnarok)I bundled sequels together but I think it still counts.
So I'm brewing Odric, Blood-Cursed and I was wondering how I'd go about maximizing the chance that when I play him I get every possible blood token off of his trigger. Basically how many of each keyword should my deck run to insure that I can have as many of them on the board at any given time after turn 3?
>>93756835It could be cool, but I don't know if I would want to do an Astral Slide deck without Life From the Loam. Are you just adding the Slide/Rift/Reformation package to an existing Boros deck, or are you really leaning into a Cycling engine?
NEW>>93757080>>93757080>>93757080
>>93749769Apparently a $900 Sliver deck based off of Moxfield's pricing calculator (I know it's based off Card Kingdom's inflated as fuck prices)I don't even have the $40 to buy that "The First Sliver" in my deck, it's just a proxy for now (I cannot stop building other decks)https://www.moxfield.com/decks/TEAE-fPc4E20sb4hF-xxeA
>>93749769I had a $600 deck, edited the landbase down and made it $300 to make the deck more casual friendly, then cut some of the pricier cards in it and now it's around $150
