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>>93770613>TQ
>TQ Removal.decWhat sort of archetypes do we expect to see getting support from Duskmorne. Surely Aristocrats gets something?
>TQI don't know any of these NuMagic cards
>>93770689I had the same feelingI was just glossing over most of the cards without knowing what they did or why are they so powerful man... there was a time in which I could remember entire sets... the game is so bloated now in comparison
>>93770687>Plot>Plot>Plot>Plotyou try and play something>Haste, Prowess Mouse>Double Strike Mouse>4 Cards from Plot>Dreadmaw/Rage/Fling>28 damage in a turn>5 mana spentlmao
>>93770744But I just remove them all.
>>93770771the greentext says you blew your load trying to play something, lmao
>>93770666By Satan's balls, he's right.
behold your new protagonist
>>93771009It's amazing they pushed the most boring and ugly character from Strixhaven. We could have had it all bros.
>>93770784Why would I ever play proactively against monored when I'm playing Removal.dec? Only a disabled person would think that would ever happen.
>>93771009I'm With Her
Thank GOD Duskwhatever will be the last set of the year
>>93771164uhhhhh sweetie....
>>93771171what is coming afterwards?
>>93771183Foundations is in November.
>>93771188that just Core set that won't rotate because WOTC is to lazy to do standard rotation anymore
>>93770613I just beat this.Round one I destroyer their 2 Heartfire Heros and then they didn't have any creatures for the next turns. I won at like 5 lifeRound 2 they kept a one land hand so I could build my board. Once they hit their second land they plotted their slickshot but I had cutdown to deal with it an phantom interference to deal with spells I won at 8 life.
>>93771022We had Quint show up in LCI, it's very likely we'll see the whole Strixhaven crew again.
>>93771231No you didn't, this deck is off meta. Cutdown generally doesn't work against it due to valiant, prowess and pumps like crescendo, ire, and rage.
>>93771231>phantom interference successfully cast on 1 mana spelldid you ask how your opponent is enjoying starting in middle school?
>>93771622>Your meta decks can't beat an off-meta aggro deckAre you joking?
>>93771639its slightly less funny than your joke about trying to use cut down on 3/3 creatures
>>93771700My joke? I wasn't even the person you were initially replying to, schizo. Why is it that you don't seem to understand the stack though? Every time you try to push the "aggro is unstoppable" meme, it always demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of the stack and how to play around pump spells. Are you just really new to the game?
>>93769809nadu decks, and those like it, are basically crossword puzzle decks. For the pilot they are having this mentally stimulating experience. But their opponent isn't and just becomes bored. It would be no different than if in the middle of a match, your opponent just held the game hostage by pulling out a crossword puzzle and started doing it right in front of you, only passing the turn once they are done with their puzzle.
/mtg/, I'm tired of playing aggro. I'm tired of always asking myself "Am I fast enough?".How do I transition to playing/brewing other types of decks?
Pioneer Cobra ramp seems pretty cracked
>>93772046nigga that could mean anything
No More Lies, my beloved
>>93772179Blocks your path
What happened to the Judge program?
Thalia would crash and burn the spells that trigger valiant but she riatted out s while ago. I wish they'd never reprinted her in the first place though. At the time I just had a crush on her, after reading the blessing of blood story, but after a while it turned into the most powerful desire and love I ever felt for a woman and I couldn't get over it, even after 2 years hearing she is with another man hurts inside, I even have a girlfriend now but still have feelings for Thalia, now I have lost friends because of my despair over Thalia affecting so many aspects of my life. Sometimes I listen to gregorian chants or viking music and feel empowered to fight for Thalia. I started working out but stopped when I had to start working more hours. My goal was to train in HEMA so that I could be strong enough to protect her. I bought a chainmail hauberk and recurve bow as well so that I would be able to defend her. But I never will. I never will even meet her, touch her, anything. I decided to stop talking to her entirely and frankly that was a good decision. I shouldn't even be talking to her when I have a girlfriend. I love my girlfriend but deep down I know that my desire and love for her will never be as strong as what i felt for Thalia, where if I had been dating Thalia I know I would have married her by now. I know it.
I know that if I had been dating Thalia for even 3 months I would ask her to marry me. I don't even want sex with her I just want to be able to call her my wife and know she loves me. But she never would, because I am ugly, because I am an angry pathetic incel piece of shit, because I am a low T beta male, and because I am a cruel and petty and self-centered person. I try to be better but I fail over and over. I remember I used to wish that Thalia would kill me. I dreamed of her ramming her rapier up to the hilt in my belly and leaving me to die like the worthless shit that I am. I also dreamed of sacrificing myself for her in battle, because I am genetic trash and she is perfection in human form. I wish I could kiss her but I would only stain her lips, her dignity, her soul by doing so. Even my girlfriend deserves better, honestly. She deserves a man who doesn't hesitate to move in with her or marry her. My friends deserve someone better who doesn't be an asshole to them. It's a miracle I have so many friends. Thalia deserves far more. In some fucked up way I wish I hated her. I wish I had never met Thalia. But then I wouldn't have my girlfriend. I don't know how to feel because sometimes I wish the entire thing had never happened and that means i don't really love my girlfriend too? Or just Thalia? Or what? I don't know what to think anymore and it doesn't really matter. If my girlfriend breaks up with me I'll have no reason to even have a job anymore, and then I"ll probably quit and live with my parents til they kick me out, then in my car, then when I run out of money I'll end it. I will never get to be with Thalia. For her I would have done anything thoughtlessly, I would have bought a house I could barely afford, worked hours and hours, I would have married her, lived in a cabin in the forest with her, given her everything.
>>93770613>TQwith the same deck but with less lands
>>93772646someone at corpo figured out that it was just a convoluted excuse to sell promo cards
>>93772727Shame standard is so dead, I'd actually consider dropping $70 for a burn deck I'll be able to play for 2+ years
I find myself almost always boarding out chalices these days as moon stompy. The card doesnt feel very good right now because no one at my store runs storm
>>93772773It's still the most played paper format according to wotc stats
>>93772812this sounds like a lie lol
>>93771907My brews always turn into a midrange pile. I wish I had more self control.
>>93772646Judges and wotc kept trying to screw each other over.
>>93772812Literally none of the stores near me run it, they run lgbtDH, draft, and occasionally pioneer or modern. But mostly the first two.
>>93772812It's the only paper format run in my area lol apart from Commander nights.
>>93771907Just play things that can defeat aggro? i don't know what format you play but it's not that difficult
>>93769809>>93769910>The YGO player saying it so nonchalantly because his card would instantly get reprinted into oblivion and become $0.30 to play>Meanwhile WotC can't find a way to reprint a card within 2 years of it turning out to be broken
reveals when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfhNy7evXjQnew aids just dropped
Whiskervale Forerunner dot dec is enabled by The Monumental Facade despite not running a single card that cares about oil counters, just 36 creaturesget out your phyrexian censor, get out your anointed peacekeepers and werefox bodyguards and deep cavern bats and grand abolishers>opponents turn>1 spell allowed on his turn, none on mine>he casts removal on skrelv because it would save whiskervale>I target whiskervale with skrelv, find aven interruptor and yeet his spell away
>>937730074 hours from now
>>93773048wtf is wrong with your tuber
>>93770613>How do you beat picrel in Standard?its impossible. no one could ever possibly win against that deck, which is why it has <90% meta share
>>93772727The same deck but without the dead chaff cards in hand and wasted landbase>4 scamp>4 heartfire>4 swiftspear>4 phoenix chick>4 slickshot>4 monstrous rage>4 felonious rage>4 banesplitter>4 callous sell-sword>3 ruckus>3 emberheart challenger>8 mountain>3 rockface village>4 blackcleave cliffs>4 sulfurous springs
>>93773333quads don't lie
>>93773356>no burnngmi
>>93773389your shock will never deal more than 2 damage + prowessmy banesplitter can deal 6 damage + prowessif I'm on the draw in a mirror I'm going to lose anyway, playing a control game is for chudsthere are no creatures in the format who can block you profitably, putting a blocker in front of a 6/3 trample heartfire hero is just a way to take extra damage from its death trigger
>>93773422you play Misery's Shadow and kek as their mice go to exile instead of dying
>>93773422>if I'm on the draw in a mirror I'm going to lose anywayDon't concede those, you can still win if they play retarded shit. I won one yesterday bc the op played connect the dots
>>93773507You can play a turn or two but if they're not retarded you're going to lose about 90% of the time, the mirror match is a coin flip. Actually all the matches are coin flips, what the fuck else was going to happen when aggro kills on turn 3 and control isn't allowed to have 1 mana removal
>>93773566>control isn't allowed to have 1 mana removalWhat happened to cut down?
>>93773722gets cucked by literally everything in the formatdoesn't kill 1 drops with prowess or pump, doesn't kill 2 drops at alldo you really think you can cut down an emberheart challenger with 2 red mana untapped? Even if he puts a banesplitter on it first, a monstrous rage will followheartfire outgrows it, warden outgrows it, hired claw outgrows it, yotian comes backhalf the time even if it CAN kill something, you take 3-4 damage from its death triggerSwords to Plowshares, now that's what I call removal
>>93773862Just shock them into cut down range.
>>93773862even Domain can run it
finally figured out that nassif's anime song is saying "yellow hat, yellow hat"
>>93772646
>>93773862You had, like, one whole turn to kill it. I guess the problem is not "there is no 1-mana removal".
>25 lands>no Passages>2 fucking Sunfalls>Tolvada to cheat in Nissa, Atraxa, Kaya using your Surveil lands>Tolvada also lets you reuse Jacewhat do we think, domainchads?
Mana burn got removed?
>>93774442As of almost 15 years ago, yes
>>93774451Any other rules changes since then i should know about?
Reprint Fatal Push and Thoughtseize in Foundations. Total Black dominance for the next 5 years.
Bloomburrow was a surprisingly decent set
>>93773862>do you really think you can cut down an emberheart challenger with 2 red mana untapped?Why would an Emberheart Challenger ever survive until its next untap step? Unless you're saying it's played on T4, which means the RDW player is already losing.
>>93774548shit card, my condolences to white mages
>>93774548best set in years purely because of the flavour and art. power-level was ok. It's still too powerful for where I want Standard to be, but I know I'm living delusional, so I'd be okay with BLB power-level for the next few years.Duskmourne is going to be so fucking OP though and I already know it.
>>93774529>Fatal Push>Cut Down>Go for the Throat>Thoughtseize>Deep-Cavern Bat>Duress
>>93774427Way too many whammies and not enough interaction, cards will be dead in your hand 80% of the game and you're compounding it by having shit like tolvada with only surveil lands to fill your yard, and up the beanstalk for card draw even though you'll be looping atraxas lategame.Domain has to be one or the other, you can't just count on massive domain threats alone. And if you really want to ramp hard, run interaction and not have a miserably high land count bricking you, skip heaped harvest for Map the Frontier and run 1x arid archway + 1x conduit pylons, which is effectively invasion of zendikar for mana fixing and domain enabling -or- get colorless mana and surveil 3 + draw an extra landIf your only interaction in the first 3 turns is 4x lockdown and a leyline you can't play turn 2 without triomes in the format, you can't possibly survive aggro let alone with nothing in sideboard. I mean your deck would lose to a lot of starter decks if they just curve out on the play
>>93774580>Duskmourne is going to be so fucking OPflash forward to 2026; >"we really thought this one mana mythic planeswalker stapled to low-printing commander niche product as a one-of was really fun and very balanced and totally did not expect or intend to disrupt and warp every constructed format including vintage"
>>93774609Wrenn and One {G}Legendary Planeswalker - WrennAs an additional cost to cast Wrenn and One, sacrifice a forest.{+1}: Add two mana in any combination of colors.{-1}: Return target land card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.{-4}: You get an emblem with "Tap an untapped land you control. This emblem deals 1 damage to any target""we thought it was really fun and very balanced"
>>93773333>>93773361>30% meta share at a 60-70% win ratehow awkward for you
>>93774641Who is Wrenn and why does she like hanging out with these trees so much?Is she a whore?
>>93771907>does it go fast?>does it help me win game 2?Those are the only questions you need to ask
>>93774607>anti-harvest schizoopinion discarded
>>93774607>nothing in sideboard for aggrothere are a lot of questionable choices ngl, my there's two virtues right there
>>93774607first of all, it's not my deck, second of all>your deck would lose to a lot of starter decks if they just curve out on the playhow did he trophy the mtgo league though?
>>93774607damn, pylonshill. I thought you were a /mtgag/ exclusive
>>93774655>mao
>>93774674>Is she a whore?a lemon stealing whore
The end is near. Be prepared.
>>93774742I need this boy even if he isnt really an insect.He's one in my heart
>>93774742I can't wait to get into that mothussy
>>93774742if they dont make Valgavoth playable i will be really fucking mad. I had enough with the disaster they made with Rakdos.
I wonder if Loot will get a card in Duskmourne. Or at least some flavor reference.
>>93774799unlikely for now but we'll see
>>93774777you know well enough WotC will make him a commander bait card with more than six lines of text to draw a card
>>93774777He is in commander deck, anon.
>>93774696imagine playing vs aggro where the only cards you can even cast turns 1-2 are 2x virtue in a 60 card deck, only in games 2-3
>>93774528Let's see -Damage doesn't use the stackPlaneswalkers are now valid targets for burn spells that say "any target" (in the oracle text, this rule was changed a few times) and damage cannot be redirected from a player to a planeswalkerYou can only distribute damage among multiple blockers, or a blocker and the defending player if you have trample, once lethal damage has been assigned to each blocker in order. One point of damage from an attacker with deathtouch counts as lethal. (i.e. if you have a 2/2 blocked by two 1/3s, you can't put a point of damage on each one and then cast pyroclasm and kill them both)When a second legendary permanent with the same name as another permanent with the same controller enters the battlefield, the control chooses which one to put into their graveyard as a state-based action. Two players can each have the same legendary creature, and you can keep the new or the old one.Mulligans are now you draw 7 cards each time, and then once you choose your hand you put a card from your starting hand on the bottom of your library for each time you mulliganed That's the major ones I can think of. Mill is officially called milling now, I guess.
>>93774803Well he is in the story, so I expect at least a little bit.
So the disaster Jace was prophesized to cause was letting Loot fall into the hands of Vulvagoth?
>>93774847i'm just posting the list the dude won with. personally i'm already at 2 get lost
does every chapter of magic lore have to reference an older chapter? this is fucked up i can't read all this shit
I'm excited.
>>93774864>Vulvagoththat's a new one
>>93774881Fuck More fucking token enabler in white fuck fuck fuck....
>>93774881where are you seeing this already?
>>93774881Rooms are way less retarded than I thought they would be
>>93774900reddit most likely
>>93774900I saw that one on reddit. Apparently someone pulled it from Facebook.
>>93774854Genuinely useful info, thank youThe mulligan change is actually great
>>93774911wtf I love reddit and facebook now
>>93774881So you choose one half to play and then you can pay for the other half later?
>>93774881what is a "door" and why/how unlocks on the battlefield
>>93774881So split cards but they're permanents. Okay. Might be a tracking problem in paper.
>>93774924Seems to be the case.
>>93774881That's actually a neat design.
>>93774924Yeah, seems it. It's a split card but it's a permanent, basically. Kind of Adventure-style, but the Adventure is both halves.
>>93774924>>93774928It's just set-themed jank for "this side of the card is active." You can have both halves active if you pay the side you didn't initially cast later, as a sorcery. The reminder text is pretty clear IMO.
>>93774928>what is a "door"
>>93774871It makes absolutely zero sense and just shows what a small sample size in a tiny format can do. The last MTGO tournament list was;>rakdos aggro>gruul aggro>domain>gruul aggro>dimir aggro>domain>gruul aggro>control>gruul aggro>gruul aggro>rakdos aggro>gruul aggro>dimir aggro>rakdos aggro>golgari aggro>dimir aggroTrying to play vs aggro decks that clock you out on turn 3-4 when you've only got 4 cards in your 75 you can even play by turn 3, is beyond suicidal
>>93774928I think each side of the card is considered a "door".
>>93774928A door is a half of a Room card, I believe. Unlocking means it becomes active. So you pay the 1W and get the left door unlocked, then can pay 4WW later to get the right unlocked and have both effects.
>>93774881this card can be... surprisingly good? and i like the fact you just can have it there making it's shit and then pay later for the big stuff.
>>93774949
>>93774881The interesting scenario is if you cheat it in or blink it, I think that means both sides are locked, but you can pay either side's cost anyway.
>>93774742this looks very fucking phyrexian even if they butchered the concept of invasion last time
>>93774954>both effectsI hope not. I hope it's one or the other. I quite like the idea of having the big buffing one out, getting swept and then switching back to the token creator to rebuild. I think that would be more interesting design-wise, personally.
>>93774881ALLMECHANICSAREKICKER
>>93774967Nothing says you lock one side to unlock the other, so if you pay for both effects, you get both effects.
>>93774881I don't dislike it
>>93774975I suppose. I just think it's boring that way.
>>93774881ok what now
>>93774973This isn't really all that Kicker-like, though. It's a split card variant.
>>93774881The first spoiler of this wave already confirms to me this set will be retarded.
>>93774984It's now an enchantment that does nothing until its controller pays 1W or 4WW to unlock the respective sides, by my understanding.
>>93774984Unless there's specific rules about it when they release the set, it would come back with both halves locked, and you'd have to pay both again to unlock them, at sorcery speed.
>>93774914Happy to help. The current mulligan is called the London Mulligan, and it's deceptively powerful because you always start the game by looking at 7 cards so decks that operate with a very small number of specific resources or are digging for specific cards are extremely reliable. I also found https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Comprehensive_Rules/Changes which only goes back to 2012 but will be a nice journey through the ages.
>>93774956We just got a fuckload of token support in Bloomburrow, so a token generator that later turns all your tokens into Regal Bunnicorns seems pretty good.
>>93774975>>93774881Okaywhat the fuck is the name of this permanent when I want to use 'choose a card name' effects against itwhen cast and on the stack it should be like a split card, if I named Dollmaker's Shop with Anointed Peacekeeper you could still cast Porcelain Gallery for 4WW, okayso it enters the battlefield, you can't cast both halves at the same time, you MUST use a special action to pay the mana cost of the other side to unlock itwhat the fuck is the name of the permanent nowwhat does it become when you unlock both sides
>>93774986Arguably it's like a split card that turns into a level up card on the field.
>>93775014It's likely it has both names. A single object can have multiple names. Naming either will work, if you need to name it.
wtf is this trailer
Nashi should be saved
>>93775030Yeah, CGI Nashi mixed with a VHS 80s horror movie was weird.
>>93775038Nashi is fine though.
>>93774877magic lore was best when things were overall very loosely connected, the early modern period was like this, the Jacetice League and mtg authors wanting to be marvel script writers ruined it
>Set lead by womaninstaFAILURE.
>>93775030it's freaky. like the house.
>opening with the commander shite
>>93775030WHERE ARE NASHI'S RECKONER FRIENDSTHIS ISN'T HOW THE STORY WENT
>>93775056Magic the Gathering?
Why are they doing this as a live event thing with boring people talking and not a pre-recorded thing with lots of images like previous set releases?
>>93775069this was shown in the mtg stream. no idea what this is.
BRING GUNS BACK TO MAGIC COWARDS
VALGAVOTH UNPLAYABLENOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>93775056Betrayal At House On the Hill doing a cross-over-y thing I guess? Sure, why not.
>>93775069>>93775074a gamebook
>>93775074It's Betrayal At House On The Hill, another board game Hasbro has. Probably doing a Duskmourn-themed expansion to it or something.
>>93775086Yeah, that sure is a big black card
>>93774881I can see that mechanic being funreally have to see more room designs at lower rarities though
>>93774881this is a pretty massive flavor win.
>>93775086Maybe in Mono B Coffers.
>nobody dies>wanderer is the final girl???
>>93775086yeah I reanimate this and opponent untaps and casts sunfall or casts liliana / edictpass
Ninja bros... Are we back?
>>93775108Neat
>>93775086BIG BLACK CARD
>>93775108>>93775116each opponent?
>>93775130what the fuck is this fucking card
>>93775108>+1, get an emblem with "ninjas get +1/+1"This is such a retarded design
>>93775134fLaVOr!
>>93775131all sets have been designed for commander since Eldraine anon
>>937751301/1? In my Simic?
>>93775130>they felt the need to explain what a prime number isjfc the west has fallen
>>93775148This dude is what they come when someone suggested "WE NEED AN EDGY CHARACTER!!"
>>93775130Uh, neat I guess
>>93775108Giving Kaito Gideon's gimmick now? Feels odd.
>>93775148I LOVE GROUP HUGSI LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEEEE CUMMANDER
>>93775174MILL BROSHERE WE GOOOOOO
>>93775108you will never be Gideon, you fucking asian twink
>>93775174cool art anywayfuck mill though
>>93775148Owling chads, is this what we've been reduced to? Banning the monke wasn't enough?
>>93775169Seems obnoxious as fuck in commander
>>93775108>>93775116having gideon's ult on a +1 seems insanely busted, even if it's only for a specific tribe, I bet we can abuse this in pioneer
>>93775108>>93775116>the +1 is the most powerful partnot oko tier but reminiscent>>937750864 mana Sorin for demons coming soon btw>>93775148kinda funny, you get make their max hand size what, 1?>>93775164the whole card feels white, the emblem is like gideon's
>>93775212Probably started from "we wanna give ninjutsu to a planeswalker, what does that look like" and went from there, but still weird. I guess giving a tribe that's VERY much almost only in blue-black an anthem effect is perfectly valid for blue-black to do, but still.
>>93775219Feels weird it's not just tapping up to one creature an opponent controls. There some set synergistic reason for that?
Can she has a chance now with a new Enchantment set?
>>93775219>Nightmare in WhiteHow does that make sense?
>>93775219unplayable garbage
>>93775212>kinda funny, you get make their max hand size what, 1?-2 actually.>Creature>Land>Artifact>Enchantment >Battle>Planeswalker>Instant>Sorcery>Tribal
>>93775219>fear of immobility>deer looking thingThe art doesn't really screem "immobility".
>>93775232There's also that one rare from BLB that can tap your own creatures to draw cards. Good call, I think it's seeding for a future mechanic.
>>93775230>any targetfuck you fuck you fuck you
>>93775255>ANOTHER Caretaker's Talent
>>93775254Sure, but there's no benefit to tapping your own creatures so far from the set. And it's not even a must, it's "up to", so it's not even a potential downside. I dunno, maybe some other cards care about you having tapped creatures.
>>93775255I get that that the set can't be all scary things but...
What did they mean by this?
>>93775252Like a deer in headlights anon
sorry guys. fell asleep for this one.
>>93775255why is glimmer a new unit type? shouldn't just be spirits
The power level seems to literally shit on furry set.
>>93770613why do you guys keep letting some standard fag make your threads? Has this general really fallen that off that the only people here are arena players and standardfags?
>>93775295>1cmc instant speed removalmental lol
>>93775266Yeah that's why I said future mechanic. Maybe something like inspired will show up in an upcoming set.
>>93775295>Fatal push in white with a little downsideNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>93775295what the fuck
>>93775295HOLY SHIT
>>93775278Where I live the expression is "like a rabbit in headlights"
God this set looks so fucking sick. Breath of fresh air after the bland-ass bloomburrow that the basedboys were so excited for for being "traditional fantasy" (like we didn't have enough of that)
>>93775295>manifesting dreaduseless keyword, good card though
>>93775295FIRE design at its finest guys.
>>93775316
>demonic tutor in standardlollmao even
demonic tutor in standard?
>>93775295>1 mana white Reality Shift The fuck
>>93775349Cool art
>>93775333well, there goes standard, pioneer, and maybe modern too
>>93775295Yeah RDW is shitting itself right now
>>93775303I guess it kinda synergises with BLB's Valiant, but still. Weird.
>>93775364Ah, there's the synergies with tapping your own stuff, there we go.
new aminatou art misses the creepy doll point of Seb's design and also isn't cute like the japanese art
>>93775371They just showed the synergy with Survivor.
>>93775364>survivalthis mechanic is gonna go nuts with all the vehicles in the deathrace set
>>93775219Up to one, huh.
>>93775387it looks like an AI repaint of Seb's.
managed to grab this guy
>>93775240>she
>>93775349Might be cool in decks that want to get Grizzly-B (or the new big demon)? Since even without delirium you can at least get him.
>>93775295Didn't they say that white was around what they wanted power-wise?
>>93775368It's strong but the fact that it doesn't trigger the ETB of the card you cheat really limit it.
>they printed kiki-jiki into Standardwhat the FUUUUUUUCK
>>93775404synergy with caretaker talent :3
MORE CLOOOOOWNS
>>93775316>2 mana 2/2 that draws two cards and mills a card>potential mana sink to flip the card tooLooks insane for limited, standard too.
>>93775232Survival mechanic
wow they figured out a way to do the gacha roll 50% thing by making it so 1/3rd of the time you "lose" by getting a less valuable japanese language printing (guaranteed in japanese collector boosters), insane kabbalah tricks
>>93775479what the fuck is the alt art supposed to be?Didn't they have enough special treatments for this set?
>>93775479yo this is exactly what I needed for naya ghired
>>93775486I can finally sac something to play Rottenmouth Viper without losing EVERYTHING
wtf
*yawn*another straight to coomander set
3 mana wrath btw
>>93775479Is this a Junji Ito reference?
>>93775130This is a silver bord- sorry, 'acorn' card.
>>93775510>>93775512They've fully lost the plot.
>>937755103 mana WRATHAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>93775479How this isn't black/red is beyond me.Some Boros nigga please explain why you get the evil killer clown?
red bmeister
>>93775528I think it's becoming very clear that someone at WOTC is obsessed with white and has got high enough up to influence design.
>>93775479>Stands are now in magic.
>>93775510STOP WHITESTOP LITERALLY KILLING EVERYTHING WITH EXTRA VALUE
>>93775512Well they're gonna reprint Wrath of God soon, so they need to make sure to power creep it first
>>93775500kino frame
>>93775528Because it's an horror set, kinda like how you had mono white or mono green dragon in Tarkir or the D&d set.
>>93775537I'm half expecting it to be some nonesense Pozzed decision. >"we Had to make it a white card. It's got Man in the name! And it's an Evil Man!"
>>93775554kill yourself, shill
>>93775548>>93775550Ito's art is nuts.
>>93775548>>93775550what format plays this card other than commander nowadays? Memedern has wrath of the skies and toxic deluge and wrath effects aren't a thing in legacy and vintage. This thing isn't standard legal so who is this for
>>93775510>>93775295OH! you wanted to Play creatures card,well.... FUCK YOU INSTEAD
>>93775550>ItoAlways kino.
>>93775479all of these are CoCo hits by the way, there's a new combo deck on the block
>>93775479I for one look forward to dying to some combo deck on turn 4 in standard in a few weeks!
>>93775510HAHAHAHA I PLAY MY OWN CREATURES ON TURN 1 AND 2DESTROY ALL YOUR CREATURES FOR 1WW ON TURN 3YOUR GO YOUR GOYOUR FUCKING GO
>>93775563da fuqI just like it brothe tv frame in red/green works aesthetically
>>93775562Take your meds anon
>>93775510
Since when the fuck was Norin BLACK
>>93775593Norin went from being a neanderthal to being blackwhat did WOTC mean by this?
Does every card now have to be a versatile multi-mode?
>>93775510Turn 1 skrelvTurn 2 deep cavern batTurn 3 I will blow up all your creatures while mine stay alive because I can either have them tapped or untapped when I cast this
>>93775593Shouldn't he have died of old age centuries ago?
>Sunfall>Day of Judgment>Damnation>Temporary Lockdown>Split UpWotC heard you all complaining about aggro. Are you satisfied?
>>93775602He always was, you just never looked at the art closely.
>>93775602Since always, but that face doesn't look like him.
>>93775593Where is the difference in the art?
>>93775622I hate that I like all of this.
how fucking good do they have to print green bullshit before people play itits a 1GG 3/3that prints free 2/2 tokens every turnand blah blah turn them face up cheat in bigger stuff who cares its a 3/3 that prints free 2/2s every turn like its half a grave titan
>>93775528the reason, like always, is commander
>>93775630Yeah, my question is why he suddenly looks 15 years younger than his previous appearance
>>93775632Right above the doorframe. Demon head poking from the top.>>93775635Doesn't matter. Dies to 3cmc boardwipe.
>>93775617Yes, thanks. Aggro half banned from Standard if you play white. Thanks, WOTC.
>>93775619>>93775630he was a caveman, he hides in his cave, that's his flavorhe was never black
>>93775630It's a different angle and lighting, he looks pretty much the same except maybe a bit younger. But that's been a thing for a lot of characters, I think Arlinn has been a different age every single iteration.
>>93775622>Nightmare boosterWe JUST got rid of alternate booster types like a year ago, COME ON!
>>93775650Thank you for trying to change the narrative it really helps
>>93775653thats just a fancy name for a booster which includes 2 promo cards out of a pool of 6.
>>93775593>>93775602Well, it was Norin in the endstill waiting for Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar's return
>>93775650He's a black caveman, it's not that complicated.
Butchered the life out of that graphic lmao
>welcome deck>not available in europe
>>93775637>turn 2 valgavoth?
>>93775683tell's who is not welcome huh
>enchantment landLETS GO
>>93775652Arlinn was an internal miscommunication thing; Creative wanted her to be 'older' so her first appearance had the artist made her look like she was in her forties, then it turned out 'older' was supposed to mean mid-twenties.
wheres the eternal formats 1 of in a sideboard staple
>>93775700>Hexproof>On a landOh boy i already can see the bullshit...
>>93775683when was the last time a product like that wasn't available in Europe? I remember the last scandal of that caliber being when they cut a bunch of languages for MtG, but the two aren't really comparable
>>93775700What took them so long? Should have done this in Theros block.And Urza's Saga doesn't count.
>>93775014>>93774928>>93774881>But what good are connected Rooms if you can't do a little exploring? Once a Room is on the battlefield, you can unlock a locked half as a sorcery by paying the locked half's mana cost. Unlocking a door this way is a special action that doesn't use the stack and can't be responded to. If that half has any abilities that trigger "when you unlock this door," those abilities trigger at that time. Other static abilities of that half are now active. Unlocking the second half of a Room doesn't affect the half that's already unlocked. It stays unlocked, and all abilities of the full card are available to you.>If a Room card enters without being cast—say, because it's returned to the battlefield from your graveyard or put onto the battlefield some other way—both doors will start locked. None of its abilities will be active to begin with, but you can unlock any locked door by paying its mana cost as a sorcery (meaning during your main phase when there are no spells or abilities on the stack).>While on the battlefield, a Room card has the characteristics of its unlocked doors. For example, if only Porcelain Gallery is unlocked, the permanent's mana value is 6. If both doors are unlocked, the permanent's mana value is 8. Similarly, if both doors are unlocked, the permanent has two names. In your library, graveyard, and hand, a Room card has the combined mana value of both of its halves and both of its names.
>>93775635>no protection>no haste>no etb>need to attack to do anything>stat creep has made that every color has creatures that will trade into it by turn 3Even fucking blue get 3/2 for 3 now, this guy will at best attack once before being traded.
>>93775692Those are Commander cards
>>93775673I guess, but black caveman is different from black guy hanging out in 21st century america, really an art fail
>>93775727Rooms are literally just Talents, Which are just sagas that don't die lmao.
god damn this set will style all over cute hamsters.
>>93775593>>93775645>>93775632Where's Waldo is my favorite 80s horror movie.
>fear of lost teethreally? not Dentophobia?
>>93775608Norin has basically no lore so I can see them saying he somehow became immortal. Or at least ageless.
>>93775738talents are just kickers that you kick over multiple turns
>>93775741Losing your teeth is a common nightmare. Same as the "I need to run but I can't" nightmare.
>>93775510So i can't even put a board against the obnoxious white decks? Why the hell they don't think before print cards?
>>93775240Ask /edhg/
>>93775738You can choose which "level" to unlock first. Presumably this will be more relevant for other rooms where the mana costs are more even.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/side-six-its-a-beautiful-dayThe final (I think) side story is a sort of weird interactive thing. Don't think I can really recap this one.
based https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/side-six-its-a-beautiful-day
>>93775741It's not specifically about dentists, nightmares about teeth getting fucked up are apparently pretty common.
>>93775758...which is why it has a proper name that I posted and they decided not to use
Valgavoth is KINO.unplayable, but KINO.
>>93775782"Fear of X" is the naming scheme they decided on. It's more easily parsable and them all starting the same way makes it easier to understand from a look.
>>93775782No. It's completely separate from dentophobia. I've had the teeth falling out nightmare probably a half dozen times and have zero issues with the dentist, even after learning I'd been getting dental work done without anaesthetic for years lol.
>>93775768It's just a CYOA
>>93775815Yeah, fair enough. Bit underwhelming as the last side-story, but it's, I suppose, a fairly fitting 'gimmick' thing to do.
>>93775768Whats the passkey?
>>93775608In the presentation they said he went through some kind of time distortion or something.
>>93775768>>93775770>>93775841Passkey is knockknock
>>93775530>>93775533they live + freddy
>>93775838It literally tells you in the article.
>>93775838It's literally given to you in the spoiler, anon.
>>93775841Yeah, makes sense I guess. His card was only in the Time Spiral block, so he could easily have been shunted to who knows when at some point. He doesn't really have any actual lore besides being from Dominaria, so sure.
>>93775510So, the good news is that there are no standard-legal, 1-mana vehicles that would let you turn this card into a one-sided boardwipe for 4. The bad news is, there's a few 2-mana options
>>93775876There's a few 0 mana options, you mean.
>>93775876Its going to be a one-sided board wipe in most normal creature decks. They attack in, their creatures are tapped. You untap all your creatures, you cast this, wipe their board, then attack. If you want more control over your creature tapping you just play evasive cards like deep cavern bat and those with effects like skrelv, no need to run warden or vehicles or convoke to do it
>>93775510bwahahahaha now convoke faggot i double dare you to convoke anything!!!
>>93775700>Lands with Hexproof>AgainFUCK OFF.>>93775510>Plague Wind for 3 manaSure bud. Fuck it, who cares anymore.
>>93775510>whatever happens remember trans women are wom- AAAAAAHHHHHHHHCCCKKK
>>93775876>a one-sided boardwipe for 4anonit's 3 mana, not 4
>>93775295>Forced to put one down.Reminder that Reality Shift loop is a legitimate way to mill out someone's library (You can Reality Shift the 2/2 that it createsu), and now it's 1cmc and in another color.The power creep in this set is so disgusting I am legitimately unable to express how disgusted I am with it.
>>93775904I think they were more talking about how to make it into a 1 sided boardwipe in a deadlock.When nobody is attacking and just staring at each other.Like when oppo got a bat, you got a bat and they have a Glissa you can't attack into with your ground creatures.
>>93775364Sorry, excuse me, why is mon-white getting unrestricted Hexproof? WHAT THE ARE THEY DOING WITH THIS FUCKING GARBAGE
>>93775962After BLB is crazy indeed, feels like Eldrine lite again.
>>93771009>(2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29 and 31 are prime numbers)
>>93771009Could they not have made these proper sine waves?Those waveforms are complete nonsense.
>>93775974>unrestricted hexproofHe needs to live at least 3 turns to get it
>>93774215Looks like a ponzi scheme or something for a cult.>No really just pay us half a grand a year and you get some shiny cardboard and the status of being a judge. Indoctrinate your friends into our lovely program.
>>93775993>He needs to live at least 3 turns to get itLiterally so fucking what?The Hexproof itself is the fucking problem, not how it gets it. White gets Indestructible on these types of effects, not Hexproof.
>>93775608>Shouldn't he have died of old age centuries ago?Yes.It won't be explained.They don't care.
>>93775934Anon, nobody's talking about trannies but you
>>93775510>"We did not playtest the final version of Split Up."
despite the muh 80's overload, I do like these
>>93776003Hm, yeah that's pretty true. Only example I could find was pic related. Otherwise it's mostly about giving you, the player, hexproof.
>>93776027Nice Odyssey citation.
>>93775108Time to speculate on powerful ninjas?
>>93775990This is the most autistic post I have ever seen.
>>93775962I can't find any decklists that revolve around this, how do you loop Reality Shift give or take fifty times?
>>93776054I'd probably look at Pioneer legal ones, since I doubt it's gonna be enough for Modern.
>>93776060To be fair, the set designer literally said "We hope maths people recognise how it's woven into her art" or some shit like that.
>>93775333This thing can spiral out of control very fast.
Will this set have Ninjas then?
>>93776070They said her design involved math, ie, prime numbers.
>>93776081No he specifically mentioned the art.
>>93776054Spoiler: This will not make Ninjas a deck.
ToT
>>93776064>I can't find any decklists that revolve around this, how do you loop Reality Shift give or take fifty times?Typically it was done with Tasigur and any infinite mana engine. It's an old fringe combo that ended up settling into cEDH.The point being that the core combo pieces were a big, efficient creature and a removal spell so you would sacrifice less of your list to pure combo that doesn't do anything.
>>93776088I think you've got to at least change the pose if you don't want to be compared unfavourably to Seb.
>>93776076Probably just Nashi, and maybe one of Nashi's friends.
>>93776088ugly, I like the old aminatou more
>>93775108folks I don't think it's clear enough: this is a 3 mana planeswalker with 4 loyalty that pluses to give you an emblem that buffs itself as well as most creatures in your deck it's the very definition of "answer me or lose" except it has hexproof on your turn and you can sneak it under counters with an unblocked creature
>>93776088>Animatou is present>Somehow this plane has any problem with any BBEG at allOopsie woodle doodle do we introduced a cosmic deus ex machina into the setting and now we just have to pretend she's completely apathetic to endless atrocities across the multiverse.
>Wizards isn't working with McKinnon anymoreIf you still play this game you're the cuckest of all the cucks that ever existed.
>>93775364>>93775974>>93775993trap card, unplayably badits just going to be a vanilla 2/1 for 1 in 90% of gamesif it comes out early there won't be anything to vacuum up in graveyards, even if you're tapping it for convoke/warden/etcand even if there is graveyard fodder, the fact it needs THREE activations to get any value is obscenely slow and irrelevant90% of games this is a 2/1 for 1, 10% of games this is a 2/1 for 1 that incidentally hoses a graveyard deck, 0% of games will this be a 5/4 hexproof in a scenario in which that actually matters (ie who cares if its just going to run into blockers or sunfalls)
>>93776088I hate they are sending my girl to the commander gulag... Fuck man this was the perfect set for her to enter
>>93776075It's much, much worse as a face down creator, but pretty good as a payoff, since it's basically, turn a face down creature up for 5.Most of the time it won't be able to attack or will die straight up, 3/3 for 3 just aren't good stats anymore.However, since we have surveil in the format you can set it up so you know what's on top of your library and then jump attack + flip during attacker to cheat something into play.People will probably try it with the new big demon.Also it comboes with Cryptic Coat.
>>93776131>trap card, unplayably badHow good it is is irrelevant to it being a hard, explicit color pie break.Your statement is a total non sequitur to the discussion.
ALRIGHT LAY IT ON MEWHATS THE COMBO
Tyvar is monogreen
Watch out anon your going to get clowned on.
>>93776149IT FLOATS GEORGIETHE COMBO AND WE ARE FLOAT HERE!!!!
>>93776143>However, since we have surveil in the formatWe seem to have a lot of "Manifest, but blatantly power crept" in the set too, so good chance you can also just cheat it into play turn 1/2, flip it on turn 3 and attack in the same turn.Might not be optimal, but it is potentially viable if support for the plan is strong enough. which, given the RETARDED power creep we've already seen, I don't doubt it will be.
>>93776088Well she looks boring now
>>93776149Probably some trash like this.
>>93776156i want an alt art of this card made for ito.
>>93776131No shit it's bad, the point is about the color pie
>>93776149>>93776178Well that was fast.
>>93776149see >>93775569>>93776178you can just use a generic mana dork, combat celebrant untaps everybody, not just himself
>>93776149t1 r/g land llanowar elvest2 plains JBMt3 any land Combat Celebrant
>>93776202>you can just use a generic mana dorkAh true that. And mana dorks don't risk dying while attacking.Some solid tools for doing it in pure Boros though.
>>93776116Spark ruptured
>>93776207>>93776202yeah the generic dork combo seems way betterespecially since blockers don't matter here, the original celebrant is just sitting back with summoning sicknessunfortunately in standard the only seize the day effects are>anzrag the quake mole (doesn't work)>great train heist (doesn't work)
>>93776217>Spark rupturedSame thing happened to a huge portion of 'Walkers and not a single one of them lost their abilities.
>>93776131Every set has to be built around every gameplay format. This is made for draft
>>93776236when have 2/1 for 1 ever been relevant in drafts
>>93776247ragavan was pretty good in mh2 limitedI think that's it
>>93775148jank
>>93776260Why are all the cool weird artifacts 5+ mana and from Mirrodin?
>>93776149>>93776178ohhh wait I totally glanced over that last line of text on JBM about sorcery speed idk then
>>93776251>deathtouch for players
>>93776272>ohhh wait I totally glanced over that last line of text on JBM about sorcery speed idk thenJust do it on your postcomba- ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD ORDINAL NUMBER USE CASE CONFUSION
Ezuri still remains the elfball finisher of chocie at 3cc.>>93776271Highly experimental set. Thats why you had loads of overpowered and weird cards in it
New thread>>93776289>>93776289
>>93776116They retconned Aminatou to not be as absurdly busted as her initial lore blurb was set up to be, I guess.
>426 posts>12 actual postsdoubt, lmao at wizards' marketing using post delete bots to nuke this thread on post release day
>>93774881not bad but would preffer those card to be DFC. (Will they have a door token?)>>93775086Cool card. Should have been one of lili's demons to be honest.>>93775108Static abilities (+ ninjutsu) = cool+1 = retarded (will pump future kaitos and all ninjas, so you just do +1 unless you are way behind)0 = good but "each opponent" is shit, magic should be designed mostly as a 1v1 game.-2 = shit>>93775130oh, character that 50% of the player base have no idea exists, 10% love, 20% hate and 20% is indifferent...Holly shit what a retarded ability, and pretty shit as well, they went for the gimmick but the card reads (make a 3/3 the turn this enters, then a 5/5 after 2 turns)>>93775148That is actually pretty good imo. BTW are all those characters receiving a new card in the commander slop?>>93775174shit, but it might be used in combo decks.>>93775219ok ish, lots of enchantments in the set, right?>>93775230kinda ok/good>>93775255shit mentor of the parish but it returns to the game after dead and piracy that has a 4/3 body with flash. Well those are good, probably standard playable.>>93775281>>93775404>white insectshit.>>93775295giving a choice for your opponent is bad but being a 1 mana removal is good.>>93775316wow this set looks full of slop>>93775333pretty cool, reminds me of the megamorph raptor from tarkir block (but this one is better if kept unchecked, but it suffers on being easy to remove)>>93775349Well shadows over innistrad had a 1 mana tutor that you searched for any land or creature when on delirium.>>93775364lmao he looks like someone who would shot other survivors in their backs to pick up stuff>>93775479cool and a representation of magic players.>>93775500cool>>93775510ah, shit card name, goodish wrath.>>93775514>Unwanted setI get it.>>93775518yep, the story about ballons with face that hangs people on the streets. >>93775530>pinehead no needleheadgood card, taxing draws will make people go mad.
>>93775593>Norin>A modern Black man instead of a pale neanderthal>Alive after 200 years (since he was timeshifted in original time spiral)God, I hate the retards making this game, wtf.If this was a commander card I would be ok with the obvious retarded time frame for the character but they also made him into a modern black american for some fucking reason.Fuck you, wizards of the coast.>>93775630by black he means "Black human male from New York (probably)". Norin was like a early human with lots of Neandearthal traits...
>>93775108>>93775116IM GONNA MAKE NINJAS WORK IN PIONEERIM GONNA FUCKING DO IT
>>93775510>It's a promo art is far worse than the standard art episode
>>93775492Jesse, what the hell are you talking about
>>93775251Pretty sure tribal us a supertype like snow or legendary, so it doesn't count
>>93782089"300.1. The card types are artifact, battle, conspiracy, creature, dungeon, enchantment, instant, kindred (tribal), land, phenomenon, plane, planeswalker, scheme, sorcery, and vanguard."
