Previous: >>93786082CEDH edition>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.nethttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>Thread Question/Prompt:What do you find most enjoyable about playing Esper?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
Gay Bolas
Straight Bolas
ever notice that any deck that includes black or blue inevitably is dominated by those colors
Good packs I should get? Wanna gamble. Also thoughts on Kiora (Kraken/Serpent etc) deck.
Bisexual Ugin
>>93794540Forgot pic I'm retarded
Once again I am asking for your support.What else should I throw in here?What should I take out?>t. babbys first golgari
Commanders that die but are replaced in the command zone cant be yonked right?I know there was some changes made to death triggers a while back but im not sure what they were
>>93794569SBAs are not checked mid-effect, so you get it because there's no chance for it to return to the command zone.
>>93794565>what else should I throw in?A nice ragu and some basil never hurts.
>>93794580Decks for this feel?
>>93794565Is gilded goose good, or just there to make one mana and sometimes a squirrel?
>>93794622It came with the precon. It's near the top of the list of next non-land cards to get replaced if I find something better.
>>93794621New capena
>>93794621Something overrated and well past its time of relevance. Zur, maybe?
>>93794508>TQI like the versatility of Blue and Black with the added artifact/enchantment hate in White. It's comfy, and if I wasn't autismo about having more than 1 deck of any color combination, I'd have Urza, Sidar, and Arna by now.
>>93794644>zur>overratedYou shut your whore mouth, vile blasphemer.
>>93794739A lot of people still treat him like he is the bogeyman of 2012 or some shit. In reality he doesn't measure up to the modern archetypes that obliterate it
>>93794565You're playing like 3-4 pieces of removal in the entire deck. Maybe more, but I can't recognize every creature.Unless you want to instantly scoop to someone having a better board state than you, add a couple more nonland removal cards or etb sacrifice creatures.
>>93794765>Unless you want to instantly scoop to someone having a better board state than youJust make a deal with the two other players. It's not a 1v1 format.
>>93794757My friend runs a zur cedh deck, fully tuned, and frequently kicks the shit out of supposedly top tiers, especially if he isnt hated out quickly. I think you'd be surprised how good having necropotence with upside is in the command zone.
So there's no downside to being Tempted by the Ring?I don't get it.
>>93794786Heard it here first folks, power creep isn't a thing and old decks and commanders are finew. Stop crying about FIRE.
>>93794538How gay?
>>93794815>So there's no downside to being Tempted by the Ring?Correct.
>>93794815Yea, it's just another dungeon, it's dumb. The central point of the One Ring in lore is that it lies to you to make you think that you're going to win the game. Meanwhile in MtG it actually does win the game for you.
>>93794843Oh you know nothing of the tears yet to be collected. We have such sights to show you.
>>93794875Thats not Esper.....
>>93794860So the one ring should not have been in the LOTR set? Or it should have been an artifact of pure downsides, so you'd be angry when you opened a joke card in your 30 dollar booster?
Combo or hit damage?
>>93794782If you want to only play a political game, then sure. But stuff like running 0 artifact/enchantment removal in green of all colors when Nature's claim exists feels wrong.
>>93794757>Search Necropotence>???
>>93794934Atraxa>Zur
>>93794542Rakdos feels fairly redSimic feels fairly greenAlso this means Dimir if the perfect color combo
>>93794886"The ring temps you" should be something you do to your opponents, or it should be a suicide strategy with short-term benefits. The stat line that they gave to the ring would be fine for a palantir (as far as the health of the game it's just a terrible design but from a vorthos lore-autism perspective it's a good representation of Denethor's palantir).
>>93794938No. Doesnt even matter which one, definitely not.
>>93794957Doing it to your opponents isn't flavorful. Frodo never use the ring against his enemies. He didn't give them the ring as a form of combat.
>>93794903Damage/burnIf you want to run combo you should probably just play another commander like Tivit.
My least favorite thing about The Ring Tempts You is that the 1st and 3rd abilities are in conflict. Honestly I would fix the Ring by making the first chapter like this>Becomes Legendary and must attack and be blocked if able. If it deals combat damage to a player the Ring goes up level. If a ringer bearer dies, a creature that dealt combat damage to it this turn becomes a Ring bearer.
>>93794815It makes you a bigger target, that's the downside :)
Etrata Assassins thoughts?
>>93794951>Dimir is the perfect color comboThis is generally agreed to be the case, yes. At least in cedh.
G>U>B>W>R
>>93795216Its not Esper
>>93795231B>U>W>G>R>h-hewwo...1 buwgr pwease
>>93794938Atraxa is the better Reanimate target but Zur costs considerably less to card cast than her, and draws 30 instead of 5.
>>93795281>>93795231U => R > B >>> W >>>>>> G
>>93795317>Green is the worst color in commander
>>93794640>Lord Xander, whatever happened there
>>93794886the Ring should have had massive short term upside but also be capable of outright losing you the game if used too muchfor example>gains burden counters each activation and each upkeep>burden counters cause life loss and cards exiled from the top of your deck>if it reaches 10 counters you lose>if an opponent gains control of the ring, you lose>if the ring leaves play, you lose>it has shroud and indestructible
Are there any commander streamers on twitch that are worth watching?
>>93795325Green in edh is boring. There are like 5ish interesting decks in the whole colour, and it consistently gets the most pushed garbage.
>>93795216Seems interesting, probably pretty fun. Cloaking is putting it into play under your control as a 2/2 right?
>>93795325“Worst” is nothing to do with it, it’s just so brain dead.>spam land>spam elves>spam elves that tap for mana like land >spam counters>spam trampleNoobtoob of EDH
>>93795371Still the best color.
>>93795377Go on, explain why.
>>93795347I'd never use a ring tempt card like that.Gameplay and design>flavor100% of the time.
>>93795377>it’s still the STRONGEST color even if you don’t enjoy playing with/against it because of how simple and overpowered it isTranny thought process. I bet you play Simic control and have no idea how much your table hates you
>>93795384I'm talking about the One Ring itself, not "the Ring tempts you"
>>93795400Your obsession with trannies is irrelevant. Not gonna read the rest.
>>93795379Its lets me make my expensive Kraken deck.
>>93795325>>93795366When did you realzie Esper is the best color combo?>>93795379
>>93794875Feels like Orcish bowmasters would be kos for this one + Ob nix
>>93794508Have you done your part in making people quit EDH?
>>93794815Yeah, it's an extreme flavor failure. The last step needed to be "you lose the game".
>>93795509That isnt Esper?
>>93795509I also watched it :)
Green has the fairest Rhystic.
>>93795448So I nailed it then
>>93794508>TQI get to larp as Kenjaku
What's a commander that's strong but not too easy to pilot?
>>93795664Probably one of the friendly ones that gives shit to other people. That is until someone gets gifted a time bomb.
>>93795651Two can play at that game
Hey anons, can a child of alara deck be made for cheap?Since I'm gonna get myself the secret lair set that includes a child of alara, my mate said I should build a deck with it.I checked on archidekt for a few and they all seem to be 6-800 bucks. That's kinda insane.The 2 decks I own cost me like 2-250 each to make.
>>93795509I think I might go that direction with one I've been wanting to brew. I've recently been loving a Standard Abzan Control deck with 15 sweepers in it and have been wanting to get something similar to work in EDH.
>>93794508Anyone build any decks with heavy bloomburrow representation?I miss when they did blocks, but I think otters have a pretty strong showing. Ygra food / squirrels seems possible. Maybe mice? Maaaaybe frogs? Most of the rest of the -folk tribes seem lacking.What bloomburrow decks did people come up with?
>>93795664
Any partner recommendations for this guy?
>>93795509Yes I have.
>>93795752Partner with green, acquire Innkeeper's Talent
>New to playgroup. Play a match. Seems alright.>One player suggests "let's all play cEDH" unironically>Everyone else agrees, tell him I won't be because combo is gay>In turn order: Winota, Thrasios and Tormod (me), Thrasios and Tymna, Tymna and Tana>>inb4 ">partners," yeah it's gay but so is the format>Turns keep going through, get Runescarred in hand, Sultai Ultimatum for Sheoldred, Seedborn, and Massacre Wurm. Sheoldred gets tucked, MW rapes Winota's tokens>not-R drops Notion Thief at first K instance.>Runescar hits, fetch and drop Tasigur, game grinds down to a halt since they can't break through a grand total of 4 creatures with 4 or greater toughness>"Well, we can't really do anything about that since we're playing cEDH, and you're playing Stompy. It's like that triangle: stompy beats cEDH, cEDH beats control, and control beats stompy">mfw this>Winota decides he can't combat anymore because losing 2life is 2much>not-R is shitting his pants because Runescarred can kill him in a few turnsI never did because, unless the deck is designated for it, I legitimately forget which of my creatures have flying and just assume that none of them do.>not-B decides he's going to try to draw a few cards to help not-R fish for a Damnation by hitting he and Winota.>MFW this goes on until the shop closes and we decide to call it a draw
>>93794875Oh no
>>93795819>partner with the worst color in commander
>>93794538>>93794540>>93794547>>93794551these threads are eventually going to become a series of posts that are nothing BUT meme posts that show up every single thread, and by the time all the meme posts are posted, it is time for a new thread ready to rinse and repeat.
>>93795874I honestly can't wait until we have a whole thread of just ritual posting
>>93795905the truest humiliation ritual will be when the thread is nothing but repeating ritual posting.
What happened to secret lair?
>>93795917Corporate
>>93795917Swapped to limited print
>>93795216It was a really bad idea an year ago because there just weren't that many assassins that are even decent, but the Assassin's Creed set made her like 3x better
Stax or hatebears? How do you actually win with this?
>>93795917Like the other anon said, they swwitched to limited print runs and now literally the only people who care are scalpers. It's basically a non-product now.
Dark Ritual posting.
>>93795920Why?
>>93795925Azorius flyers. A bunch of flying creatures + stax pieces is a classic combination, kill them in the air while they struggle to play anything and just counter when they do.
>>93795936Thing sell out fast means person who has no idea what magic is but has his accountant buys stocks in hasbro will be happy.
>>93795936Nobody 100% knows for sure, but the most popular theory is that the bad secret lairs were being overprinted and unsold, which led to excess stock having to be dumped, and that just looks really bad for investors. So they changed to a limited print run format where they can pretty much guarantee that 100% of the printed stock gets sold in like 2 days. Might not generate as much profit, but it's pretty much risk-free and looks really good in quarterly reports when they can present a bunch of products as sucessfully sold out to the investors. Of course this is horrible for the average consumer who now has to buy immediately or just miss out, since scalpers are mass-purchasing all of them to make massive profits in the secondary market, but Wizards doesn't really care.
Is she a good stealing things commander or should I just play Gonti or something else?
Favorite flavor texts?
>>93795917Good SLs are bought out within hoursBad SLs languish because of either shit art or shit reprintsI have no fucking clue who greenlights half this shit.
>>93795963
Why is mono green so boring?>Inb4 it's the strongest color on the gameThat doesn't make it interesting
>>93795973this but red
>>93795963My GOAT
>>93795982Extremely based, when I made my post I was actually going to post that picture but accidentally clicked post before I uploaded it
>>93795963I really need to buy this card
How does everyone feel about the current direction magic is being taken in?
>>93796011I don't feel very good about it at all
>>93796020What specifically do you not like?
>>93795987This is somewhat of an esoteric recommendation, but if you like that flavor text i think you would like this short story https://www.medina502.com/classes/ml260_2017/readings/Borges-The_Circular_Ruins.pdf
>>93796011>>93796024i'm very skeptical of the tone of these posts. i will not answer, my shill detector schiz-o-matic is going OFF. just post the consumer survey links next time, please.
quads and i'll do it
>>93794551Same energy.
>>93795988Anybody here got to buy Seb's new artbook from the Kickstarter. When I knew about it it was already too late for me.
>>93796040
>>93796011it's shit for a very long timeretroactively removing crusade and other supposedly raycis cards from the game was the nail in the coffinsending the pinkertons to confiscate cards you allowed to be leaked was the last shovel of dirt on the gravethe cards look like shitthe price of precons is asinineat some point you retards at wiggers of the coast forgot why this game was played in the first place and now it's a dumpster fire, you aren't even creative enough to make original sets anymore, using other IPs like league of cringe, doctor who, fallout, have genuinely soiled a lot of what made the game special in the first place. stop with this cancer of taking things that had an organic fanbase on it's own and appropriating it to churn out perpetual slop
>>93795963Basically anything with goblins.
>>93794912>not Heroic Intervention + Back To Naturengmi greenbro
>>93796057more like gay time tea
>>93795963Rip bozo, he seems like he was a chill dude and I wish I could have pissed him off with mld before the ass cancer got him
New player. I don't really know the schedules for these things.When does the rest of Duskmourn get revealed so I can see if there's anything I want before I place my big cardkingdom order?
>>93794875>ward 2WHY
>>93794815The One Ring and being tempted by it are flavors fails to highest degree and I can't believe Wizards couldn't figure out how to make it work from a set where flavor is probably more important then anything else.
>>93796108Shit will be slowly trickled out for the next few weeks. I'd order now unless you want to wait 3 weeks or whatever. However, You also should not pay pre order prices. There are cards that preorder for 50+ in some sets and then drop to less than a dollar after release. Most of that shit will never hold the value it does in pre order.
Who else is building?
Doctor Who is the UB set that actually had the most flavor. Probably because the people doing it actually cared about the property. That feels like the most important aspect for UB. You need designers who really care about that property.
>>93796129what makes him so jolly?
>>93796133The balloons I assume
>>93795367With Ward 2, yeah. Like manifest, if it's a creature, it can be turned face up for its CMC, as well as having the Etrata ability while she's around.
>>93796129But why Boros?
>>93796040The man asks for quads, it seems only fair that I give them to him.
>>93796141Temporary clone = Red1/1 token = White
>>93796037Im genuinely curious.I personally hate all the other universe shit in the game and its very obvious their are forcing DEI shit.Im just wondering how others feel about it is all.Like what magic used to be to me back in 2014 when I started playing feels like it is being killed by conglomerate bean counters for profit.Wizards has been adding some neat shit to the game but its super offset by all the retarded shit they are pulling by being extremely DEI and greedy.Masters sets used to be so FUCKING hype it was unreal, now there is a masters set every few months, they have basically become normal sets expected once every few months and they are no longer special.I personally think all the weird new special art cards are fucking gay.A lot of what they are selling and forcing these days as product completely break the immersion of the fantasy for me when im playing.
>>93796040cum on it
>>93796141Clown face paint is white and red
>>93796152You just need a like-minded playgroup and someone local who can paint at card size to do alters of the post-2014 garbocards and turn them into chad fantasy types.
>>93796129More support for attraction.
>>93796141Dunno but white has the best removal in the game
>>93796024Tldr the DEI shit and the blatant cash grabbing is getting old. Still love the game but it's mostly for nostalgia and memories
Where were you when you realized combo isint fun?
>>93796186combos are unfun if>they require two cards or fewer>they can be done without warning, meaning everyone has to be on constant 100% alert because the game may just end at any moment.>primary combo piece is in the command zone
>>93796152honestly, at this point i like universes beyond MORE than the in universe stuff. they've made so many retarded shifts with their own world building while also having some retarded holdovers in their design documents. final fantasy is my most hyped set in years and years. i think universes beyond is retarded and turns the game into a billboard for other IPs to advertise on, and yet despite that UB is still more enjoyable than the output of regular magic's creative team.
>>93796186When the person in front of me pre-game Gemstone, exiling Elvish Spirit Guide and Flash a Protean Hulk turn 0.
>>93796186>three players actually playing the game and duking it out to see who wins>player 4 demonic tutors into exquisite blood and drains everyone for over 9000>the three actual players don't get to see who would have won
I've seen this spell ruin so many people's days for how underused it is. Someone thinks their craterhoof just won them the game, and then they basically just lose on the spot.
>>93795820>be gay retard>"its totally fine to have two commanders that don't even share a commander tax when everyone only has one">"but man people winning the game is too gay for me">even acknowledge how gay partners are but do it anyways>have Tasigur and Seedborn on the board, somehow don't flood the game with Tormod zombies and bury your opponent under mountain of recurred value and tokens>don't attack with your flying 5/5 because flying is too hard for you>game ends to time because you're too gay to run combo, too stupid to make a shit ton of tokens, too lazy to read the word "flying" on your cards, and playing against the world's most handicapable cedh group
>>93796186They always went for Saw in Half.
Would
>>93796139Unironically, I've become so fascinated by her ability to both steal and synergize with Assassins that I'm gonna build her myself. Currently working on a list.
>>93796233>play evolving wilds>manifest>crack evolving wilds>flip ulamogThanks wizards.
>Playing Yuriko (yeah i know, sue me)>Aristocrats opponent plays Yawgmoth, one of Yuriko's greatest foils since it can easily snipe the small evasive creatures and make ninjas have no power so they don't trigger>I play Sakashima's Student as a copy of Yawgmoth and slap Aqueous Form on it>Attack with Ornithopter, Student, Yuriko (who has a -1/-1 coutner) and Mist-Cloaked Herald>Opponent tries to -1/-1 Student, i point out how he can't because Student is Yawgmoth and he has protections from Humans>Opponent kills Yuriko>I Ninjutsu her back in because ornithopter is still unblocked>He sacrifices to kill her again>I nijutsu her back into mist-cloaked>He doesn't have anything to sacrificce anymore>Gett two triggers, hit draco and kill himThis is why i can't for the life of me stop playing her. I know she's overpowered but Yuriko is such a fun deck to play.
Is there a control deck I can play that won't make people hate me? I've been looking at pic related or Queen Marchesa but I don't want to build a deck that I will never play because people bitch and moan whenever I pull it out.
>>93796302She's so fun
>>93796302>play yuriko>scrub out a winimagine my shock
>>93796323Sounds like someone lost to yuriko
>>93796325The people I play with have dignity so I've never actually played against her. I'm not interested in cedh anyways.
I am prepared to ruin some games with this
>>93796331So you're bitching about something you think is overpowered but never even seen on the table?Sounds like you should make a YouTube channel
>>93796336Why? Do you actually watch mtg youtube algo slop?
>>93794569Danse Macabre also works.
>>93796334Too many hoops to go through, play the OG.
>>93796365>>93796334How are you guys still finding people to play with?I can't even play eidolon of rhetoric without getting annoyed looks.
>>93796365Dealing combat damage is unironically too many hoops
>>93796377because I rarely play the same deck for that long before I build something elsePlus I am always up for using someone else's deck or them using mine for a game
>>93796377eidolon of rhetoric is way worse than those twoThose make the game end faster, Eidolon makes it end way slower
>>93796365More like Sigma Lasher amirite
>>93796397I've got a mate who loves playing food token decks.. sometimes he just sits on 150life. If I played that, he'd probably pack up.That's why I always play 1hit commander or poison>>93796387wish I had the money to just shit out decks
>>93796405oh I hardly spend any money, if I pull a legendary creature out of a pack at a draft or something, I'll usually try to build some jank with it by the end of the week
>>93796412I can't even afford packs man. I make 1k a month and my 2 decks cost 250 each. Magic is unhealthy for my bank account
>>93796416>makes 1k a month>pays for passyou fucking RETARD
>>93796429I can't post without it.. my ISP is banned
>>93796416Just proxy then.
>>93796365What's the flavor text referencing to?
>>93796218>4 CMC instantYeah nobody will see that coming when half your land is untapped.
>>93796464He's correct
>>93795651I'm Danish and love esper. Should I build this deck?
>>93796462Ashling
>>93796457that's not allowed on 4channel
>>93796462
>>93796454get a fucking job and stop posting on 4chan.
Is he fun?
>>93796494with Slime against Humanity, yes
I have 2 unopened boxes of Time Spiral Remastered I have been holding on to for nearly 5 yearsShould I draft them with friends or just open them?
>>93795959i dont know but im rock hard when i see that milfbuilding the gypsy whore as we speak
>>93796526>for nearly 5 yearsTSR was 3 years ago
>>93796491but I said I had a job.. why so mean
>>93796542I feel I have to be in order to fit in with some 17 year old vision of a 4channer
>>93796556what
>>93796563He's referring to the 2007 legacy of 4chan where everyone is mean, the way most remember it and try to enforce on others. Honestly, I remember when I started around then, which was probably not a healthy thing.
>>93796556This guy gets it.>>93796563This dumbass never will.
>>93796571Oh, so he's just a grumpy grandpa
I miss the days where everyone was a fag. We were namefags, newfags, and everything else under the sun. We even called gays gayfags. For some reason I tap my mother of runes and name protection from black, but the grief hits me all the same.
>>93796464Even if they see it coming, what are they going to do? Not attack after casting craterhoof? The threat of it existing in of itself is a problem, that's one of the core tenets of how control decks work.
>>93796578No. Everywhere else on the internet is a giant circlejerk hug box; this is one of the few places you can call someone a fag and tell them to fuck off for basically any reason. As a result, the people who post here and believe in this place (like me) give off older brother energy, where they seem like dicks and call people on their bullshit, but deep down really care when newfaggots are working to better themselves and are trying their best to fit in without being shitposting retards. Personally, if you come to my little corner of the internet and antagonize the ancient edgelord king of douche mountain, you deserve to get both barrels of the shit filled shotgun I have to use 90% of my brain to supress in public at any given time. But if you're reasonable or entertaining you might get personalized instantaneous free assistance you cant find anywhere else.
>>93796599>I tap my mother of runes and name protection from blackIf your mother had protection when she got tapped by the blacks, you wouldn't have been born.
>>93796619Anon, I'm a raging faggot who at times sits on vg, other times makes moonman threads on gif and then goes into faptogether threads on trash.I'm not new to this place. I've been here for some 7 years.
>>93796619>I'm an asshole because I can be one!You sound young.
>>93796603>Even if they see it coming, what are they going to do?How many counterspells would you like me to name?
>>93796619Bro 4chan hasn't been that way since the exodus.
>>93796542"1000 dollar income" is not a job. that's a hobby.
>>93796629>I've been here for some 7 years.you're a newfag
Powerlevel:U >= B > R > W > GBlue: Counter magic and draw power. Best method of protecting a win condition and stopping one in a 4p format. Has access to the most broken card in the format.Black: Best tutors and obscene draw power. Best way to actually get to your win condition. Has access to numerous design mistakes.Red: Has some absolutely colossal design mistakes that enable explosive turns.White: Stax pieces that double as wincon protection. It's an okay splash but does very little on its own because permanent removal isn't as valuable in coombo format.Green: Ramp in format with almost all fast mana legal. Has creature tutors though so that's nice.
>>93796654:)
>>93796629>I've been a low quality shit anon on containment boards for 7 yearsMany such cases. /gif/ is alright though.>>93796635>missing the point this hardI just am an asshole. Some people are born that way, and I am one of them. If it wasnt for 4chan I'd be fighting people over their retard driving, hiding raw chicken in the depths of walmart, or yelling at morons in public for their dumb shit. I still wind up in those situations, but at least if I'm contained here normal people dont have to put up with my bullshit unless they have the misfortune of antagonizing me by accident.>>93796643Meh, I came from ogrish and stayed because I like it. It's just the way it is.
>>93796669>green is last in powerlevelThis is bait
>>93796669Green has better draw than blue
>>93796669Swap red and black and you nailed it from a fun and interesting commander design perspective as a monocolour. Blue and red just have the best artifact synergy, and artifacts are both the most powerful and most fun parts of magic.
Are angel decks cool? I wanted to make one but ended up with a mite deck.Never seen one before. I like the magic angels.
>>93796724angel decks are cool, but good angel decks are expensive. more than you can afford on 1000 bucks a month. you should spend less time here and find a job to make the money you need to play an angel deck.
>>93796736Good angel decks aren't that much
>>93796669White has been leaning more towards shutting down an entire turn rather than using spot removal.
>>93796736>>93796745I don't care about "good".. just playable. Like a lil above average precon strength.Like, my mite deck isn''t very strong either. https://archidekt.com/decks/8488125/copy_of_corrupted_influence_preconI just need something playable, u know. Not like so bad I can never win.
>>93796754Angels aren't amazing but they are playable. Giada is the go to angel commander. There are some pricey good angels, but, you don't have to use them. And there's not many tribes without any pricey creatures.
>>93796754You can build a playable angel deck that can sometimes win, but it will be expensive and require fast mana to offset the general high cost nature of angels. Or avacyn and armageddon, whatever you prefer.
>>93796763>>93796761Hm.. well, sell me on another faction or race or type that would make a cool deck for less than 250bucks.The only thing I found that looked interesting was slivers but their effects are kinda boring.. the art of the cards and creatures is what interests me the most. Not really the playstyle of the deck.Except for stax but I can't bring a stax deck, my mates would hate me.
>>93796776Zombies aren't that pricey and can be pretty good.
>>93796783Zombies.. zombies sounds cool..But that reminded me of that one card I saw.. some acolyte nonsense that specifically states you can have unlimited of them in a deck and once 6 are sacrificed they summon whatever from the deck I think..U know what card I mean? Is that a cool deck to play?
>>93796776>>93796783Second this, I love zombies. Build grimgrin.
>>93796788They're like $5 each and recently got new support.
>>93796795They're average a dollar 50 on tcgplayer. But you'll rack up shipping costs because most sellers won't have a bunch, except for the ones over charging.
>>93796801Really? >checksDamn I have like 200 of them or some stupid shit. Should have sold them years ago. But to answer anon's question, build shirei. Sure it's a one trick pony meme deck, but that one trick is pretty neat.
>EsperThis is a Gruul thread.
>>93796837Ok autumn. How are the ropes treating you?
>>93796840bot post
Are the Fallout commanders okay? My friends want me to play commander with them but i don't really give a shit about mtg so i'm more inclined to buy a themed set so it's stuff i know
>>93796845The Mothman precon is pretty good iirc
>>93796844Dont be upset about the most famous gruul player in mtg. You chose this life.
>>93796303There is no such thing as a deck everyone likes. Play what makes you happy.
>>93796845The decks or commanders themselves? Mothman deck is good. Caesar is a good commander, but, his precon is whatever.
>>93796837>This is a Gruul threadFavorite Gruul deck? For me it's Minsc and Boo
>>93796848I kinda liked the Caesar one because it's got Mr. House in it and most new vegas stuff, but i'll check out the mothman one aswell if it's got better cards
>>93796795U are a lying sack of shit. These things cost nothing.>>93796790Never played a deck that supports blue but I like that commander.Any other cool commanders out there or is he like.. the most fun to play
What is the least gay commander to play in Mardu colors?
If I were to order 30 non foil they'd not be too expensive. Considering that's already 1/3rd of the deck.
>>93796571>be 2007 newfag>still don't understand the point of anonymity and decide to use a tripRetard
>>93796868Radha. Radha on 2, Skyshroud claim on 3, play a fatty a turn for the rest of the game.Bello is a lot of fun and enables some absurd tech.
>>93796899Piru. Actual Elder Dragon, versatile lines of play if you don't fall completely for the Stuffy Doll meme.
>>93796868Omnath Landfall with 5/5 Jellybeans that have bolts inside of them. Even better the deck can be an assymentical lockout if they can't bother building with basics.>>93796899Mr. House, President and CEO. Just roll dice. Or Zurgo with Worldsmasher.
>>93797043>gruul idiot running worst stax pieceAs expected of country vegetables.
>Away from magic for 2 years>Just got back into it a week ago>Brewing up a deck>Come Across this card>Read it and get extremely excited thinking he works like how Infect works>Daydreams of running him with a instant speed removal, hand disruption and pump spells going through my head>Realize its not the same as infect and he only does 1 poison per combat damage instanceIs he any decent? It looks like he can be good but he might be kind of limitedIm going to build him anyways, he looks fucking cool as fuck
>>93797088He's funny with flicker and doubling ETB triggers because you make a billion little Mites to swing
>>93797026I completely forgot about Piru. I wanted to build her when she was released, but I never did. Do you have experience running her yourself?
>>93797088Just run best boy, though you dont get red for the combo.
>>93797088https://archidekt.com/decks/8488125/copy_of_corrupted_influence_preconI have him in my deck, he's my 2nd commander. I switched him out with ixhel a couple times.But my deck is just average nonsense.
>>93797121>forgot my imageGoddamn being up all night...
>>93797115Limited, was back around release as well, though I've been thinking about putting the deck back together. Being able to pivot between reanimator, control, token spam, and storm was really fun. Now that there are so many Undying Evil and "creatures you control gain indestructible" effects I feel like going all in on storm could be a viable strategy on its own. My only real advice is what I already said: don't fall for the Stuffy Doll meme. It's usually more hoops to jump through than it's worth. Toralf and Repercussion are more than enough of that kind of effect. I'm going to include Phyrexian Vindicator in my potential rebuild because that might actually have the juice to kill the table without extra work.
>>93797202It sounds like a pretty baller idea. Could finally give me an excuse to run Dawn of the Dead and Bloodfire Colossus in the same deck. Thanks for the suggestion anonymous.
>>93797229You're welcome. Good luck.
>>93795317>>>>>>> GHave you ever played the game?
My Piru deck is 100% just vague crap I pulled together after noticing I had a lot of neat cards in mardu, but even having your commander as a "gain 50+ life" button by just not paying the upkeep is excellent
Impending 4 – 2RRWhen this ETB or attacks, deal 4 damage to any target 5/5
>>93797582I usually give them passive aggressive shit until they stop.What really helped me was a flying vigilance commander with good toughness. They just won't dare try to fuck with that thing.
>>93797568The Bloomburrow snake is dozen times better than this shit.
>>93797593well i'm running multani maro with shroud so he does have great power and toughness, and i got lucky enough in this game to get my akroma's memorial out for vigiliance and flying and trample and slap the lifegain guy off the table as payment for swinging only at me every turn, and it felt so fucking good, but then the other player bounced my akroma's (totally valid) but then also made me sac the commander which would only have been a blocker for the next turn cycle and not a threat as i was tapped out, still fair i guess, but then they just kept at it focusing only me and avoiding interacting with each other despite me having nothing left on board except howling mine. combine that with slow ass turns, mumbling, and it just felt like a shit game where 3 people all focused a monogreen grouphug deck. i imagine they went on for another 30 minutes in the 1v1 not swinging at each other and just playing legos going hmmmmm ummmmm i.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>93797625yeah but...that one's in red but yeah impending 4 for 2 less mana is strictly worse than casting it on curve
Nothing personal
>>93797649simple.. tell them to stop it, commander is a social game. If they don't, call them all worthless niggers and find new people to play with.No joke.
>>93797568The green overlord is still the best right now.
>>93797677so far I honestly think the red might be the worst, or well...least interesting
>>93797703>might be the worst, or well...least interestingId guess the red one is going to be hot in standard, almost worth a revival of GR Monsters
>>93797714yeah it's good, better than the white in most circumstances, but white has way more intractability with other cards and strategies
>>93797674my deck just doesn't fare well against malicious retards, much more enjoyable when everyone is interacting a lot and i'm supplying them with the ammunition, but fuck if i were them i'd be going for the guy who's boardstate looks like picrel just to save us all some reading instead of casting invert polarity to stop the guy with 3 life total from casting his commander out as a blocker in a last ditch effort to stay in the game before the guy with half his deck on the table goes next.. i mean who the fuck does something that cringe just to secure third place
>>93797568Overlord of the Boiler(boira)Bilge(biruji)
>>93797731Well when I play with the guys, before every combat, people look around at life counters and usually never attack the one with the lowest life. Like we play super social.If they are being such fucktards, get a stax deck and just rape em. Like they aren't gonna play friendly, right? Order a full high power stax with proxies and just ruin their day if they can't play fair.
>>93797722Whites definitely better for commanderGetting titan vibes from these, like whites a better grave titan, reds a sidegrade to inferno titan, green sucks compared to prime time but nobody wants that in commander again
>>93797568>>93797703So will they come in as a creature if we blink them while they're still pure enchantment?
>>93797768that's...a good question
>>93797768>>93797787I believe it will become a creature, if bouncing it removes the counters
>believe my deck is weak shit>friend constantly targets my resource supply commander asap >refuses any diplomacy with me because he thinks I have the strongest deck>rebuild my deck so it produces more resources and can function without the commander if required>also add some alternative wincons like token creature engines that synergy with my strategy>test the deck a few times with friends>friend lets my commander live for a few matches>massively increased winrate, deck can reach lethal swing easily at t6 now>even other friends now believe their decks are too weak against me>friends now target commander even moreI'm sorry. I honestly believed I am playing a shit deck.
>>93797741thankfully this was online with randoms so fuck em. that's part of why this kinda shit happens in the first place i think. wish my irl homies played old border mtg with me, need some good bantz and social matches. i did come across a deck exactly as you're describing, pretty much running nothing but counter spells, meant to be played purely as a fuck you no one is gonna play the game now how bout dat
>>93797807I mean, you were, you remade your deck to where your commander was no longer the sole threat
>>93797768>Old Aminatou would just blink them>Nu Aminatou would just discount them
>>93797768Yes, because its "base state" is an enchantment creature. Impending is a variation on it.
>>93796899Trynn and Silvar
>>93796868Xenagos baby
>>93797807Edh players are notoriously terrible evaluators of their deck's power level.
>>93797808I never played magic online. Doesn't sound fun.. cause I can't use my cards
>>93797857definitely. I usually underestimate my decks, despite everything being on a budget and using no cEDH staples. my only principles when building decks are fast&cheap.
>>93796040go on
>>93796302>Playing Yuriko (yeah i know, sue me)Nah, Yuriko is fine as a cedh deck, but it's impossible to play as a "casual" commander. So if you're playing cedh then it's good. If you are playing casual or marketed your Yuriko deck as a "power lev 7 or 8 trust me guys", then you're a pubstomping faggot.
Seems fun. Not a typical orzhov style with the pseudo goad.
ugh I can't decide my feelings on proxies. I want about 15-20 proxies for my precon to help solidify its theme/gameplan and up the power a bit, but also I feel like if someone came at me and said "hey 20 cards in my deck are fake" and they kept winning I'd be pretty upset. its like I can't objectively find a reason to hate proxies because the only one they financially hurt is wizards so lole, but also I still don't like it, but I also wouldn't mind it for myself.
>>93798081Wrong lmao I will continue to play her in casual and there's nothing you can do to stop me
>>93798096Yeah you are just retarded. If they showed up with 100 real cards they bought there would be no difference.Most mindbreaking around proxies comes from power level disputes, where someone uses proxies to enable the use of high-price (and high-power) cards
I'd like some help setting the parameters for a self imposed deck building challengeWhat I want is >A reason to go through sets as they rotate out of standard even if I am currently not really playing edh>Have to make hard decisions with lasting impacts on my card pool>Play with and test new cards regularly, even if I have to cut similar cards that are more efficient>Only play with cards that were standard legalI thought about limiting this deck to 3 colors but I am experiencing a lot of FOMO in case I want to change the commander down the line not sure if that is antithetical to the "make hard decisions" portion of my challenge. I wanted to play Treva, the renewer as my commander because I really like this cycle of dragons and she's pretty generic and honestly pretty bad so I wont have to worry about changing my decks strategy around or worry about the deck becoming hyper optimized. I don't want to get bored either, maybe one day I want to change over to Vorosh the hunter or Rith, the Awakener so I might not want to limit the colors even if limiting the colors would make it much easier to comb through the constant deluge of sets being released. So how many cards per set would be a good number? Too few and the temptation will be to only pick up the most obviously good cards, too many and I may as well pick up everything EDH playable in a set.
>>93796868the Ruric Thar, the Unbowed CEDH list is pretty fun so probably thatnot sure if it's any good anymore but it used to hate pretty hard on the meta decksCEDH is like New York City, pretty fun to visit no idea how people live there
>>93796302if i see someone playing yuriko i just go to another table or asks if he can change the deck, nope, i'll not play with you. If commander ninjutsu was taxed every time she used it, it would be fine, but as it is, she's the ABSOLUTE pubstomper commander. Maybe in a table with nadu, voja and winota it would be fine, just imagine that shit show
>>93797568>red is pushed for standard in that specific way that makes it trash in EDHsasuga
>>93798255I hate this trope
>>93798099Yeah because you're a pubstomping faggot
>>93797568really really solid in Bello deck
Still my fav card. Love the cute
Yuriko bypass Drannith Magistrate
>>93798294Haters gonna hate
>>93798298Based cute doggo but unfortunately I like other commanders better for the theme.
>>93798314I even have the dogmeat playmat and both versions of him.
There will be a time where a Yuriko deck will play no lands besides the MDFC one and it will be casual.
>>93798335Based
>>93798314My love for Miku is even stronger tho. I'm a weeb of some renown
>>93798191>So how many cards per set would be a good number? if you are playing only standard legal: all or nothingbut honestly, I don't really understand what you actually want. do you play only sets that rotated recently out of standard?
>>93798375then why do you buy non-weeb western uggo face miku?
>>93798383huh?
>>93798389are you stupid or something?
>>93798399All I see is a weird attempt at bait but I don't even understand what you are trying to bait for...
>>93798377I think the idea would be to build a deck from cards I currently have that were at some point standard legal and pick up new cards as they rotate out of standard and add them to the deck. I'd like to have a binder at some point of cards that I can swap in and out of the deck on a whim and test new cards as well. This is a half baked idea at the moment so I am open to suggestions
>>93798404then you are a paranoid retard, because I was asking a rhetorical question, ultimately expressing my disgust in someone unironically purchasing artistically raped miku
>>93798458MIKUU CARDS
>>93798423sounds like you want to play standard-adjacent edh, but given that you already have a lot of limitations doing this (do you even use commander staples like sol ring and arcane signet?), why would even limit yourself further to a certain number of cards per set? how many years do you plan on going back? and how would you handle wanting to play a commander that needs mechanics you sorted out of said sets?>I'd like to have a binder at some point of cards that I can swap in and out of the deckYeah cool and all, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around as to why to do this. Do you want to create something like a personal hall of fame for every set? Because that sounds nice, but if you want to do this for one commander, it should be someone you know you will keep playing in the future, no?
>>93798461yeah, sure, miku cards
>>93798527I planned on going back about 10 years, to when I started playing >already have a lot of limitations doingyeah that's kinda what I thought as well.>Commander staplesonly ones that were in standard. sol ring was, arcane signet was as well >do you want to create something like a personal hall of fame for every set?that actually sounds exactly like what I'm trying to do.>it should be someone you know you will keep playing in the future, no?I've had a planar choas/invasion dragon built for as long as Ive been playing edh (currently its og darigaaz) so keeping the commander to that cycle should be easyI guess the hard part at this point is deciding how many cards per set to pick up, I know I am going to pick up fewer cards the less interested I am in the format and maybe that's ok now that I think about it, maybe even preferable as it will show my interest waning and waxing over time. at least for this deck I don't want to go back after I have made my decision and buy more singles
>>93796302based fellow yuriko enjoyer
>>93798580you could always do it based on rarity 1 mythic 5 rares 10 uncommons as many commons as you wantor based on price, give yourself a budget of like 100 bucks every rotation
>>93798580I don't think you can decide how many you want per set without picking the ones you absolutely want first. I would start by picking my favorites for every set and then see how much they add up, then decide upon a system.
>>93798628Wow a totally reasonable response in 2024. I am shocked. Thanks anon, I think that's probably how I will go about it.
>>93798375I bought Miku sleeves when I was on a holiday in Tokyo once. They were pretty shiny and the inside looked kinda like foil. But the corners on those Japanese made sleeves are so sharp they cut into the side when you shuffle.It's really fucking annoying you can't shuffle them properly without outer sleeves which dull the image and makes it twice as thick.
This is legit an cool card
>>93798580I did something like this with my buds. We started with a precon and drafted 2 cards (lands count for half a slot) each time we played I chose the Oloro precon, took like 6mo for it to become a boring ass typical Oloro deck, never underestimate how little it takes to make a deck boring or how shit those old precons were lol. the first 5 play sessions were just trying to fix the land and ramp.
>>93798805an cool card for sure.
>>93798805No red 1 drop will ever top Glitterfang in the being cool department. This one is not even a contender really.
>>93798805It is cool but where is this good in edh?
>>93798824Glitterfang isint even good, this monkey at least looks playable
>blocks your path
All commanders should have a ward equal to their cmc
>>93798977>NOOO NOT MY SUPER SPECIAL CARDCommander tax shouldnt be a thingonce a commander is cast it shouldnt go back to the command zone ever
>>93799017Brianlet take
>>93798849>burpswhat? ah yeah, I attack>farts
>>93799033it would make people actually have to build a magic deckyou may not like it but its the best thing for the format
>>93799053But I don't want to build a magic deck, I wasn't to play a commander deck. What you're proposing is 100 card legacy Singleton
>>93799053>you know what would improve commander? removing the commandersubtle bait, I like it. Almost convinced me that a person was stupid enough to actually hold this opinion
>>93799068>>93799075you still get to cast it once a gameuse it wisely!
>>93798830Any r deck that cares about robots and looping little dudes
All I ever hear about is people bitching about my commander or my colors or the cards I play or the strat I use, and it's an expensive pain in the ass any time I upgrade so why would I put on the effort and the money if all I'm going to hear is more bitching and moaning? It's all so tiresome.
>>93799255Two things. First, this is why you have a couple decks at different power levels. Second, this is also why you dont listen to salty faggots telling you you're having badwrong fun.
>>93799017This is "special card" the format
>>93799343I have the lowest power level in my pod, but I have to hear the black player bitch incessantly about how green is overpowered because it can ramp while he tutors It That Betrays into the graveyard for 1 mana then reanimates it for 2.
>>93799436Have you considered that the reason he has to do that is because he can't ramp into it
>>93798096you are retarded>hurt wizards financiallygo read their official stance on proxies, they dont give a shit, it's one of the few things in recent times i respect them forwhy would you be upset if someone kept winning with 20 proxies in their deck but if they never told you that and you presumed they just spent money on cards you'll never afford you'd feel fine?run a high power proxy deck you could win against them with, problem solved.stop being a retard.>>93797865>cant use my cardswtf do you mean. look up EDH tabletop simulator. you can import your decklist and use your exact cards down to the specific editions and sleeves except now you'll have the added benefit of shuffling taking one click, and be able to tutor, scry, keep track of tokens, board state, etc all much more easily than in real life. so that's not why it doesn't sound fun, the real reason is because every negative thing you've ever encountered in an LGS is amplified because no one has to look another person in the eye while being a fucking nigger. games are way more a roll of the dice on whether or not everyone will be charismatic and social or just mouth breathing into the mic for their ten minute turn that accomplished nothing.if you have a friend pod then you are winning at life
>>93796788Shadowborn Apostles, they are clerics that summon demons.Demons can be pretty expensive and shadowborn apostles are about 2.50 american each and you want at least 28 of them.
>>93799472sounds like he should play green thennot my problem
>>93796040dew it
>>93799472He runs more ramp than I do. 3 signets, 3 talismans, both Cabal lands, Black Market giving him like 50 mana each turn.
This is my first attempt at building a group hug style deck, is there anything I'm missing? It's a budget deck so I'm probably missing some staples due to cost but I was wondering if there were any low cost cards that should be included. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6614483#paper
>>93799699well its missing most of the most common group hug cards and how exactly does it win?damn MTGGoldfish why are all of your images blurry as fuck lmao
>>93799698Can't wait for someone to sperg out about how finality counters are bad
>>93799698Even without the sacrifices, 4 mana for this effect is absolutely fucked. The day I see this on turn 3 is the day I probably stop playing.
>>93799721The game plan is to control combat by granting keywords that tip interactions in certain players favor. I don't want to ramp everyone else or give out too much card draw because I'd probably be easily overtaken. The end goal is to one vs one with another player and then just tip combat in my favor enough that I come out on top
>>93799698This is fucked
>>93799698that border looks so fucking bad
>>93799775have you looked at the vow cards?
>>93799698This is terrible
>>93799765Yeah I agree with you. Colors that can't remove enchantments are looking worse by the day
Boring
>>93799808yes! but in the cuts I ended up cutting them though they might be worth taking another look at (cuts are hard)
>>93799838Zzzzzzzz
>>93799698This might actually be better than the original, what the fuck. In 1v1 formats if you get this down for 4 mana its basically impossible for your opponent to ever win on board
>>93799436Green is over powered, incredibly linear, and super boring to play against. I dont have a lot lf sympathy for you.
Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long time
>>93799698they really, really like this joke
Kek
>>93799859Oh look, suddenly the enchanment land is looking good, imagine that.
>>93799859Seneschal?
>>93799872...this actually seems like a lot of fun
>>93799859i hear it all the time right now, but because im playing rogue trader.I love learning how to pronounce stuff from media.
>>93799895Isint this one of two cards that make shard tokens though?
>>93799918yeah but you can blink for extra etbs
>>93799859This design sucks
>>93799872SHART IN MART
>>93796125It will always upset me that MTG made a LOTR set that includes both The One Ring and The Fires of Mount Doom as cards, and The Fires of Mount Doom cannot destroy The One Ring. The One Ring is immune to its effect.Like, how the actual fuck do you screw up that badly and get it past any kind of secondary review? At that point you have to be fucking trying to do it wrong on purpose.
>>93794508TQ: I wouldn't know, I only play Temur.
Where do you pick up your commons and uncommons? My store recently stopped hoarding draft chaff but I want some cards like thirst for discovery and mulch. I imagine getting them online is way more expensive than the 10c and 25c I was paying in a store
Based as fuck cycle coming through
>>93800055Oh hey, these are gonna be pretty good.
>>93800021I would not be surprised if the people they had working on the set were specifically selected to know as little about the IP as possible. The amount of open disrespect they show to the grandfather of the fantasy Genre in that set is appalling.
>>93800055You are correct sir.
I recently finished building a set of 5 mono color decks to serve as intros to EDH, is there a good deck box that can hold 5 sleeved decks and tokens?
>>93799880not technology btw
>>93796868Phylath, World Sculptor is great fun
>>93799698Oh, so this just shows that this setting could have taken place in Innistrad just fine and they probably didn't put it there because they were ashamed that they wasted two sets there recently that were completely forgettable.
why are foils from NEO basically the same price as non-foils? Is there something wrong with them?
>>93800296Foiling is a disadvantage nowadays. They're rarer than normal cards, but they also curl up even inside sleeves. God help you if you live somewhere particularly humid or particularly dry.
Bloody Mary Candyman Beetlejuice
>>93798977Half their manacost rounded down and it would be fine as long as it also supercedes any other ward costs.
>>93796040I'm waiting, anon.
>>93800055>>93800067>>93800126>>93800139>>93800146>Untyped>Only allied colors>>>UnidirectionalWotC will really do anything to not finish the tangolands.
>>93800405>tangolandsplease stop being racist
>>93800387and the boy
>>93800387
Neat
>>93800439based
>>93800387So useless in EDH then?
>>93800405They're still very good. Better checklands, really.
>>93800459not useless but not goodI play satyr wayfinder and its ok, this also lets you get a creature but there are like 15 other spells that do its effect better
Hmm... this feels strong
>>93800506Its going to make standard and pioneer fucking unplayable
>>93800509Valiant only triggers once each turn, so copies don't really help
>>93800506>>93800509my friend who is good at magic said this was bad in rdw
>>93800506In edh:mehIn other formats: destructive
>>93800506That’s because it is. It’s slightly hampered by the spell needing to target a creature you control to get copied, but it’s still a damn good leyline
>>93800506>you controloh I was dreaming of the return of Satyr Firedancer
>>93800506Zada is happy otherwise meh
>>93800531Your friend probably doesn't play standard or pioneer. Heartfire Hero/Cacophony Scamp + Burn Together is already winning games turn 2-3 right now, and it's only going to get worse with this leyline. Play leyline turn 0, Hero turn 1, turn 2 swing with hero and cast monstruous rage on it. Rage copies, gives it a total of seven power and trample. Then cast burn together to deal 16 more to the opponent's face. And it's not even that difficult of a combination of cards to have in your opening hand.
>>93800442Kinda bad feels like an uncommon
Your turn anon
>>93800579I take 6 casting carnage tyrantur turn
>>93800579Oh it's going to be one of THOSE games I see.
>>93800564he plays standard. his argument was that the card doesn't make the deck faster than it already is and if you don't have it in your opener you have to mull or/and have bad potential drawsso essentially diluding the already full deck
>>93800509Anon, dont play standard or pioneer, the fuck is wrong with you?
>>93800579>opponent casts this>have a board to deal with him>my creatures get removed>you are too scary, anon>no more removal available for mama braps>we lose to itwhy always like this
>>93800609Because the average commander player cannot conceive of a noncreature permanent being a problem, no matter how many times they lose to one.
>>93800609every time I resolve mana barbs I die within a turn or two or win. mostly die though, people hate that shit
>>93800617I have another gem>play signet and ghostly prison early game>crush contrabanded>next turn another anon plays gilded lotus>goes untouchedsure, hindsight 20/20 but MANG
>>93800605Trust me i'd be playing Legacy if i had the money to
>>93800648I know this one will sound like a made up one but I've told it here before so>steal aetherflux reservoir from emry player>they tutored isochron before>sorry, anon. that reservoir is just too scary>destroys it>emry player recasts it and combos off
I fucking hate wizards, why hasn't it been banned in anything yet?
>>93800562i'm not putting it in my zada. it's fine in the starting hand but otherwise i'd rather just cast a cheaper creature since that will get me an extra copy anyway
>>93800710lel why would it? it isn't in any single dominating deck. it only enables janky strats, anon
>>93800710>tfw I traded for a foil One Ring several days after release>tfw it was valued at $30ish at the time of the tradeI feel big brained for not having purchased a single pack of LotR and still easily getting the best card.
>>93799473Nigga are you braindead? >use virtual shit garbage like a filthy, nigger loving, shitskin having trannyNOI want to use my OWNED FOIL CARDSI WANT TO FEEL THEM BEING PLACED ON MY PLAYMATKill yourself.For real, I have never felt as much disgust towards a human being before.I hope you have to watch your loved ones die a horrible death.
>>93800442Why couldn't WotC have it buff other scarecrows to throw Reaper King players a slightly bigger bone?
>tfw feel like I need to buy every card that comes outhow to stop this?
>>93800784PROTIP: Determine what cards you are planning on cutting for the new singles before you buy said new singles
>>93800797holy shit that's actually kinda smart
>>93800784Build a good deck. You'll have so few new cards to add it's almost depressing.
>>93795727All of them are buildable anon
Day 4 of duskmourn making bloomburrow look good by comparison
>>93800880Sure anon, whatever you say.
>>93799698My Athreos deck is screaming right now we finally got fed some Aristocrats support in Orzhov
>>93801148myeah, such a niche. finally catered to
>>93801148Finally some aristocrats support in the color that is "oops all aristocrats" kek
>>93801148which athreos?
>>93799698>lurking evilaka the gayest most pointless alt art ever
anyone play not!path?
>>93801148>we finally got fed some Aristocrats support in OrzhovAre you kidding me lmao
>>93801296>destroy>2 mana>here's a free clueit's shit
>>93799698$80 card right there
>>93801316When I read it, I didnt see the colorless pipI was on the fence when it cost half of what it does lol
>styx hexenhammer is almost a strictly better Abyssal Persecutordamn yo I unironically play abyssal persecutor, guess I better upgradeRIP one of my favorite cards
>>93801378You can always just play the card you like better. Who would want this floating homosexual over fucking abyssal persecutor?
>see a pub stomper>people leave the table>asks to join ours>'hehe, it's a 7' - it's a CEDH Urza deck>play based bumbleflower>t1 vexing bauble>seethes>has 30+ counters>drop lier>he has enough stax pieces to do what he wants and lock out the game>flash out pithing needle on urza chief artificer >his winter orb locks the game down>everyone scoops and kicks him from the tableI encourage everyone to make an anti-cedh deckwith silver bullets for all of those decks, because most of their cards are the same and it's fucking funny.
>>93801323>BBBBDoubt it'll be $80, that mana cost is way too restrictive for many decks
>grievous wound isn't a curse
>>93801414This has been my experience with basically every monoU urza player I've ever met. They'll try to convince you the deck isn't an absolute cancer pile but it always is.
>>93801414Better idea:>See commander that's in top 100 on edhtop16>Do not play against it
>stompy timmy attacks breyafag down to single digits when he has only has thopter assembly on board>he tries to resolve time sieve on his turn but gets burned out by solphim manabarbs and spellshockcombo players get the rope
Wilhelt, Scarab God or Varina for zombie tribal?I'm aware zombies aren't that great but I love them. I can't decide what's the strongest way to go.
>>93799698Thanks I hate it
>>93801488>zombies aren't that great>one of the strongest combo tribes in the game>one of the most supported tribes in the game>on par with Goblins, Elves, and DragonsMy dude Zombies are probably among the top 10 strongest tribes in the entire game and they have TONS of combo potential, sac functions, and synergies outside of just punching people with shambling dead
How much space in your dwelling is used by storing Magic or other TCG stuff?I did a move recently and it made me re-evaluate how much Magic stuff I am hoarding. I think I might have to downsize some of my collection, it's taking way too much space.
>>93801414this is the most real story i have ever heard and absolutely does not reek of you trying to fit in too hard at all
>>93801516oh shit the king of autists is back
>>93801514I also moved fairly recently and gave a ton of my old bulk to a local school via the LGS owner. Just went through my whole collection and asked myself "Can I imagine actually putting this card in a deck by choice?" and it more than cut my collection in half.
>>93801513I'm not complaining, it's just that I play with people who have very high powered decks so I'm trying to do the best I can.
I kinda just don't want to play this game anymore.Every set is either new bullshit I have to buy or new bullshit I'll have to deal with. It's clear the priority is more on "print powerful card" than "must-answers and silver bullets".
>>93801567*than AVOIDINGPlaying Go Fish fucking sucks. I don't like the game coming down to "Do you have it?" in the worst way possible.
>>93801414>>93801447I play an actual competitive urza decklist. I dont think this is a real story. Where was his hurkyls? What about his rift or any of the other bounce spells? I'd tutor that shit in a second->chief artificerOh it's the bad urza with even more tutors and removal. Why would you go lie on the internet like this?
>>93801238God of Passage>>93801301It's been years since black got a proper Enchantment like this meanwhile green got Great Henge White gets Farewell etc. etc.
>>93801567honestly, this. there are just too many one sided wipes these days and permanents with wards so high single target removal costs as much as a wipe anyway so they get to do their endless value before that
>TCG Player>select keep current printing>optimize>fills cart with a bunch of mother fucking dr who and other bullshit cardsNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Duskmourn seems pushed
>white got a 1 mana murderAre the wiggers finally happy?
>>93801513Top 10 are there even 10 tribes worth talking about. It’s too 5 easy
>>93801723this but [current set]
>>93801750Bloomburrow was not pushed
>>93801723??? Seems weak as fuck besides meathook
>>93801771Miles ahead of Bloomburrow in terms of power, which is a shame.
>>93801734It's literally a color-corrected pongify my dude
>>93801488>>93801544Wilhelt or Grimgrin
>>93801795Give me literally any examples
Zamn
>>93801964Is this good?
>>93802099Not particularly.
>>93802099It's similar to Voracious Greatshark, Mystic Snake, and Ertai where it gets substantially better if you can blink it demand. But all of those are probably just better.
>>93801964AMONG US WHEN THE IMPOSTOR IS SUS
>>93802191This is true, but giving your opponent a 2/2 that they can turn into something better is a huge downside. I would much rather pay 1 extra for something that doesn't develop my opponent's board while I'm trying to slow the game down.
How do i get started with commander?Just buy a shitty precon?What are these power levels i hear about and how would i even calculate that
>>93802191This card is VASTLY better than all of those cards by virtue of targeting any spell and costing only 3 mana
Favorite token?
>>93801964Manifest and delirium are some of the shittiest mechanics WotC refuses to let die
>>93802231Commander power levels are largely arbitrary and no two people calculate them the same way, i wouldn't worry about it. Yes, precons are a good starting point. They are actually really well constructed and consistently some of wizard's best products, just pick one that feels interesting to you and go play.
>>93802099counters on stick in blink colors, also counters it all. pretty decen't
>>93799698>It's actually called Meathook Massacre IIlollmaoroflkek
>>93800570Would be busted in limited at uncommon
I hate duskmourn because there's no fuckable animals.
>>93800387>literally Beetlejuice: The Cardlol. Lovin this set
>>93802270We haven't had fuckable animals since Ixalan.
>>93800710Contractual obligations
>Ghost maids get printed>Unusable draft slopI hate wotc.
>>93802287Bumbleflower
>>93800745i have real cards and a playmat too, big whoop. >hurrrr i wanna feel my retarded miku proxies being placed on my retarded miku playmat so i can see the look of contempt in everyone's eyes for having to play against weebshitbest they are good for is kindling for the inevitable house fire you will suffer from. gas yourself nigger, you have shit taste in waifus and you have a 4chan pass, you are worse than a tripfaggot tranny>muh heckin ISP is banneduse a vpn you liquid brain waste of life
>>93802301This actually goes in to one of my decks lmao
>>93801826Meathook massacre ii alone is better than everything in the entire Bloomburrow put together.
>>93802287hazel
>>93802231>How do i get started with commander?>Just buy a shitty preconLook over the recent precons that are available at your local game store, maybe ask a few questions if the person behind the counter actually plays and isn't just a lackey who sells things with no knowledge. See what looks appealing, and on the box they give a really broad interpretation of the strategies therein. Should still have some Bloomburrow and maybe the last of the Thunder Junction ones on shelves, along with the new batch coming soon(tm). >power levelsa meme generally speaking, and most people just end up saying stuff like "low, mid, or high" when it comes to power. Precons qualify as mid without upgrades so don't fret about being too strong or too weak, if you pilot well you'll be fine and can parse out if you like the format.Check if your LGS has a commander night as well, mine does every Thursday and it's a lot of fun. 0 horror stories about it, despite going there for a little while now.
>>93802270I mean Nashi will probably get a card but he might be uggo if they lean into the lesbian haircut too much
>>93802231honestly? get tabletop sim and join an EDH discord, tell ppl you are new, use a precon or a netdeck. it's a good way to play a lot more games than you could irl and you'll start picking up on what's what pretty quickly. that way when you play irl you'll have a smoother experience cause ppl will be playing way lower power.
>>93802287Cruelclaw.
>>93802231You CAN buy a shitty precon, but you can also go the ebay route and see if there are decks online made custom by people if there's a legendary you like that isn't from a precon (like my sphinx tribal or avacyn or etc.)Power level is usually measured by commander salt, if you have a lot of high value cards commonly played by people like cyclonic rift or blasphemous act your power level will be higher than someone who just focuses on mana acceleration to just summon 8 mana creatures on turn 5 because you can answer quicker.Target would probably only have Bloomburrow so if you want older precons try checking out Gamestops I saw Thunder Junction precons there
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Is anyone else excited for the inevitable Freddy Fazbear reference?
>>93802435HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
>>93800387>>93800432Fun draft cards.
>>93801993Why though
