Previous: >>93809046>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.nethttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>Thread Question/Prompt:What’s that one card that always ends up working against you?
>>93815677first for winter never gets banned
second for no card will ever be banned again in EDH
>>93815677>TQI keep falling for the meme, I keep believing this card won't rape my ass, but it always does.
>>93815677>TQSomehow, someone else manages to assemble a full combo every time I resolve the spell that my deck is built around.
>>93815677>What’s that one card that always ends up working against you?I'M NOT GONNA STOP DOING IT
>>93815682>>93815686Haters gunna hate. If it gets banned, I was right. If it doesnt get banned, I have a comically strong budget deck. It's a win-win.
>>93815677It just never works out for you. I've tired time and again, but turns out that giving everyone like 6-8 treasures means someone is going to do something that fucks you over
>>93815677I like to play aggro decks and this totally fucks me
>>93815708I don't believe the RC does bannings anymore. I believe if Lutri, Golos, and Leovold got released tomorrow instead of years ago, they would never get banned.I figure WOTC basically took the power from them.
>>93815726You might be right. Funny enough, in the mtg finance community there are rumblings that leovold might be unbanned, which would be wild.
Will they ever print another legend that isn't golos that tutors any land on ETB? Hell, it could tutor any land to your hand instead of the battlefield and do literally nothing else, i'll take it. I just want a commander for a cool land toolbox deck
>>93815737>land toolbox deckOmo exists.
>>93815743Omo gives your lands all types, that doesn't make a "land toolbox". I'm talking about being able to tutor lands with specific abilities for the current state of the game like Maze of Ith, Glacial Chasm, Bojuka Bog and etc.
>>93815726>LutriThis one's a special case that probably still would be. Unban my nigga for the 99 and CZ, it's frankly stupid companions work at all in a format with a sideboard anyway.
>>93815694>>93815705>>93815707>>93815720so ...is the true "hard counter" deck red instead of blue?
>>93815751If you just want a card in the command zone to search for lands then use a tutor in the command zone. They exist. Sidisi is one.
>>93815757without*
>>93815757I think it's retarded that "outside of the game" cards in MTG are "refering to the sideboard" when they aren't. I've always found that rule nonsensical. I would prefer more accurate text like "Search your sideboard..." saying outside of the game means I can go grab my binder and is needlessly confusing to players who aren't familiar with intricate tournament rulesets.
>>93815767I know, but she's monoblack and monoblack lands is a pretty limited archetype. I just want a dude that is like>Landson, Scoutmaster>Legendary Creature - Human Scout 1GW>When CARDNAME ETBs or attacks, search your library for a land card, reveal it, put it into your hand then shuffle
Gay Bolas
Straight Bolas
>>93815819>>93815822https://youtu.be/1hvFlO0NuuE?si=_jYO7PcN0gniUo7r
Bisexual Ugin
Bay Golas
Guro norn.
>>93815836what is guro about this? It's just monster/nightmare waifu
>>93815782It's still supposed to mean "Search your binder" in every context but tournament play, including playing a sanctioned format (e.g. Modern) when not in a tournament.It's the most bafflingly retarded shit ever when Karn exists as a card people run in 3 formats (and had to get banned from a 4th) since it means that by game rules you're not supposed to actually be able to practice Karn's usage properly.
>>93815843She's not guro, well kind of, but she is a perpetrator of guro. Dont you want to feel her warm, fleshy hands as she flays you alive and fuses porcelain to your skeleton?
>>93815819>>93815822So what turned him gay?
>>93815852>It's supposed to meanBut it doesn't say that or anything that implies that. The only way you'd know that is if someone told you, likely after you made the mistake of thinking otherwise. I doubt some dude getting fucked by such a thing at an FNM is super healthy for the game.I know what they mean when they say outside the game. But Jimmy the newbie might not know that when he plays his first ever standard FNM. And standard has certainly had "search outside the game" cards.
>>93815867One look at Ugin's hips
>>93815858Sounds like she has such sights to show me.
>>93815822>>93815819>straight Bolas is and old calm, sleepy dragon, and reads books in his chair>gay Bolas is a giant demon-esque looking dragon that does not read books nor chill in his pad. He wants to hurt and kill everyoneWho cast this gay spell on him? They doomed the multiverse. He was such a nice boy.
>>93815878>Straight Bolas makes people discard their hand and was the mascot of the format that destroyed every other one after it started being pandered to>Gay Bolas is only in a side format played exclusively for funidk anon seems like Gay Bolas is the better one.
>>93815887Gay Bolas was the hero we deserved
I can't fucking wait to flicker this thing.
How many women are in your playgroup?
>>93815907Online trolling bros we can't stop winning!
>this guy who thinks tegrid, vorinclex, and voja are as oppresive in the command zone as a two card hard lockSometimes I forget that some of you dont actually play magic. Thanks for the laugh.
>>93815919Who are you quoting?
>>93815907>porn as a hobby
>>93815907>meaningless fake "poll" with no source, no methodology, no MoE, no fucking anythingFor all I know this was given to 5 women outside a cracker barrel in Texas and had a MoE of 30 and was done by "Retards Inc" poling company.
>>93815924In the dead thread, opinionated but retarded anon has had some hot takes. My fucking sides, I feel bad for that guy who was actually trying to explain it to him.
>>93815933then quote him. You just seem like a schizo talking to himself.
>>93815919Tergrid gets blown out by any removal. Same as Kaalia. Voja is Elfball and loses to the exact same things that Elfball loses to. Vorinclex is just bad.
They should add another text to this that says "destroy all lands" because fuck enchantress.
>>93815890didnt they print this exact card but with cloak and unblockable in mkm lmao
>>93815959not exact. no flying (unable to block flyers), gives it +1/+0, there was no equip ability other than the etb auto equip to cloaked, and an ability for 1U that bounced the cryptic coat to hand.
>>93815939Exactly. He thinks "top decking instant speed removal in 2 draws" from winter with uba mask out is easy.>>93815935Sure:>>93815850>>93815921
>>93815929How is it not accurate though? The last time I played was with a bunch of overweight guys in their 30's, constantly bickering over the rules while eating absolute trash. Why would any woman find that attractive?
>>93815974>I went out and saw....This is the least scientific form of "proof" possible.
I finished a stupid ass Dream Halls combo deck a month ago and I think wanna turn my brain off for my next build, give me some suggestions for dumbass beatstick commanders. This one and Xenagod are my first two choices but I'd like to consider some others before committing.
>>93815978"arguing online" is on the list too.
>>93815972Any one of 3 players eventually drawing removal is a far easier condition to meet than "I'll just assemble all the pieces of my lock that doesn't actually lock the table in any way"
>>93815972it's 6 draws you dumbass. you are fighting against 3 players who all want the lock gone. and the point has never been that winter isn't strong. the point is that it isn't getting banned. because it isn't. nothing ever happens.
>>93815822Same energy.
>>93815682Why would Winter get banned?
>>93815998
>>93815708Tivit is $0.60 and he's not banned.
>>93816000someone in last thread said it will get banned because it is an oppressive group slug/stax commander for casual groups. that's what started all of this.
>>93815991>>93815993>t. anons who have never played staxI'm laughing. Good luck, you're going to need it.
>>93816026it's not getting banned. cope.
>>93816026Ah yes, golgari stax. With famous budget pieces like... a rare from Urza's Saga, and great protection options like uh...
>>93816026*turns off your deck*
No wonder that stax players are the most insufferable on the table.
>>93815987That makes no sense in the context of someone asking you for a source on a poll with 0 sources.
If you create your deck entirely to fit a specific archetype you see people posting about online, you're a faggot
>>93816032I dont care if it gets banned, you're the rerard comparing it to fucking tegrid, voja, and vorinclex you tard.>>93816037The best stax pieces are colourless, but you're in bloodmoon and contamination colours friend.
Post this Winter decklist my nigga, if we're gonna sit here and bicker like old women all night I at least wanna see the sauce on this supposedly backbreaking casual deck.
>>93816064Didn't know Blood Moon was green and Contamination was a common.
>>93816047Oh no, whatever will the deck with green do about an enchantment?>>93816069Did you have a stroke?>>93816065Gotta ask that one guy. But it seems hilariously easy.
Winter is Jund bro.
>>93816064>I dont care if it gets banned, you're the rerard comparing it to fucking tegrid, voja, and vorinclex you tard.the point was always that it won't get banned. bringing up those other commanders was because you wanted other legal commanders that make people cry. people absolutely seethe at all of them, especially at the casual level, which is what the original anon was saying the level that will make people seethe enough that the commander gets banned. you're being a disingenuous cunt to pretend someone is retarded without even caring about the argument at hand. kill yourself.
I like mtg
>>93816083what the fuck are you doing here then
>>93816083I like sushi.
>>93816091go play D&D then
>>93815972This has to be a troll. How is draw 2 cards and reduced hand size in any way a lock with uba mask? If it was kami of the crescent moon would be a stax commander.
>>93816081None of those commanders are comparable retard anon, none are even close to as oppressive or easy to enable. I dont need to pretend that you're retarded, it's self evident from reading your posts.
Hey guys I heard we're posting about 4 mana ward 2 bogeyman commanders tonight
>>93816103got that in my "sideboard" or "collection of cards that I swap out of my deck occasionally"
>>93816110>the point>your headkill yourself
i maek solder
>>93816107Kami of the crescent moon is absolutely a stax commander.
Is the mole god cancer? He seems cool
>>93816113
>>93816059Okay okay, I made it up. That chart is fake. Women love MTG and everything associated with it. They can't get enough of the musky odor that builds up during a three-hour commander session when some big guys play in a small room. Women love Magic almost as much as guys engaging in online arguments.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>93816113>4 manayou are like babySo anyway I started blastin
>>93816123You seem quite mad retard anon. Quite mad and retarded. Maybe you shouldnt be so opinionated if you're mad and bad and retarded.
>>93816128Never seen him played and no anon here has bitched about him so he's ok. Just be ready for him to catch every piece of removal your opponents have.
is smoke...stax :^)
>>93816138winter isn't getting banned. cope.
>>93816144It's a Ninja tribal card
>>93816133How many games have you played with 30 starting life? How exactly are the games better? Does it only work if people adjust their decks?Answer this or you're not allowed to post it anymore.
>>93816126 I've only ever seen him heading a control deck do you have a stax decklist?
>>93816146You keep saying this, but I never said he was, mad bad retard anon. What decks do you play? I want to peep all the instant speed artifact removal you can top deck.
>>93816137This guy fucks with nekusaurus big time
>>93816156He fucks in general. I have him in my Shao Jun deck and he is a menace.
>>93815782>I think it's retarded that "outside of the game" cards in MTG are "refering to the sideboard" when they aren't. I've always found that rule nonsensical. I would prefer more accurate text like "Search your sideboard..."Well like the other guy said, none of those cards were meant to refer to the sideboard, since sideboards are a tournament rule and only exist during tournaments. There's no such thing as a sideboard in a casual match, and, as crazy as it sounds, there was a time in Magic when the default mode of play was assumed to be kitchen table casual with no banlists, no formats, just play 40 cards minimum (not 60, that's another tournament rule) and otherwise do whatever you want and go nuts.In fact the first card of that type (Ring of Ma'Ruf, Arabian Nights) was printed before sideboards as a concept were even invented.
>>93815907>Comic BooksIt's fine to collect comic books and enjoy the stories told as long as it doesn't become your whole personality.>CosplayI don't know why this would be unattractive. I only know two men who do cosplay, but they're both shredded.>DebatingThis is fine if you hold my views. If you don’t, it's a huge waste of time.>DrinkingWe call these people alcoholics, and there's thousands of years worth of evidence as to why this is a terrible hobby.>MTGThis is fine, but only if you hate the people who make it.>AnimeThe same as Comics, with the caveat that Anime is in a much better overall state.>MakeupThe only men who do makeup as a hobby are fags, and fags are gay.>CryptoThis is impossible to do as a hobby. If you're good at it, you earn a shitload of money and it becomes your job. If you're bad at it, you lose a shitload of money and stop. If you CAN'T stop after losing everything, then you're not "doing crypto" you're gambling and you should seek help.>CigarsA terribly expensive hobby that leaves nothing to show for your expenditures, but at least your house will smell nice.>ClubbingIf you're going so you can dance and socialize, this is fine. If you're going so you can drink and hook up with strangers, you're going to end up as a statistic if you don't stop.>MarijuanaLike Cigars, but worse in every single way.>FunkoLike Comic Books, but without any redeeming qualities whatsoever.>Arguing OnlineThis is fine if you hold my views. If you don’t, it's a huge waste of time.>PornIf it means consuming porn, then it's like Cigars but without any redeeming qualities whatsoever. If it means making porn, then you're going to end up as a statistic if you don't stop.>GamblingIf you just like to vacation in Vegas, then it's fine. If you can't stop chasing the jackpot dopamine hit, then you should seek help.>ManosphereThis is just saying that you're into Debating, Drinking, Crypto, Cigars, and porn. It's not a real category.
>>93816077>Winter is a great budget option because he's common!>He makes people seethe when combined with the best rare stax pieces in the gameLast time I checked if your deck needs expensive stax pieces he's not a good budget option. Especially when your own stax pieces (most of which don't actually interact with your commander) color screw you because your commander is 3 colors.
>>93816160>there was a time in Magic when the default mode of play was assumed to be kitchen table casual with no banlistsWhich was a minimum of 27 years ago or more. Pro tournaments with big cash prizes are old enough that MTV showed them back in the day. It's not like wish cards haven't been prinited as recently as Ixalan at the latest
>>93816155>I never said he wasthat;s what the whole fucking argument was about you unbelievable faggot. i literally said multiple times that he will make people mad. you bumped into a conversation about one thing, pretend it is about another, and constantly misrepresent the arguments being made. kill yourself.
>>93816168What are you on about? Uba mask is like $9 and puzzlebox is $8.
>>93816163>Cigars>smell niceI assume you smoke cigars which is why you think it's nice. Similar to stoners who I have seen say weed smells nice. People who don't smoke either think both smell horrific.Neither are as bad as what cigarette smokers smell like, though. Which genuinely to me is worse than feces or an open sewer.Either way that graph is fake. Unless it's that one that went around for like a week, where someone edited "Magic Tricks" to "Magic The Gathering." In which case it's even more fake.
>>93816176I'm not the mad bad retard who doesnt understand the difference between a two card lock and a 5 mana wolf/elf meme deck.
>>93816183Where is your proof that the graph is fake?
>>93816178nta but does this deck not want both Orcish Bowmasters and Sheodred, The Apocalypse? If you don't have your lock going yet they're two of the best hits for Winter's ability and both are 60+.
>>93816169>Which was a minimum of 27 years ago or moreYep. Back when Magic was good.
>>93816065I'm not the "local stax expert" but it's gonna be a bunch of looting and mulch style effects, cheap ramp spells and mana rocks (CMC 2 or less), dual type cards like artifact lands and enchantment creatures, random tribal cards like tarfire and bitterblossom, as well as the stuff that fucks with your draw like Uba Mask and Teferi's puzzle box and black graveyard hate like leyline of the void and dauthi voidwalker. Probably win with urborg + coffers + torment of hailfire after grinding the game to a halt.I could absolutely see if you dropped Winter on turn 3 or 4 and made everyone discard down to 1 or 0 on the first go around the table, most casual decks would just scoop unless they are heavily graveyard based.
>>93816195A guy admitting it several posts up when being pressed on why the graph has no methodology, margins of error, or a source.
Winter is just an annoying mediocre version of chad Nekusar
Anyone wanna tell stories? >be me, stop playing with old group 8+ years ago >find a long term relationship, a cool job in concept art, travel the world >group used to be really cool growing up. Lots of hopes and dreams >as adults they’ve all become obese giga-autists that whine at each other during games and their home is a disgusting mess>all their new friends are literally junkies and creeps>except one of the old guys, who is genuinely cool and just wants to see his friends succeed (plays a fateful hour themed deck) >others have all just become turbo SJW politically obsessed people except him >I had to let them know kindly that I’ve gotten a bit uncomfortable with most political things being shoved everywhere and they’re understanding I “needed a break”, which is nice I guess, even though it was kind of an excuse >continue building decks as a hobby on my own this whole time. >literal nogames, just fuck around making cool decks / building a Warhammer army >this week they invited me back >excited to see my old friends to see how they’ve grown >one of them is now a troon, one is “antifa” and is wearing a bandana over their face at a table, one new guy brings his disinterested girlfriend and she’s cringing at him because he’s mad people are targeting him, which is like nails on a chalkboard >the one cool guy just looks so fucking defeated>absolutely stomp the whole table with a shitty hinata deck >I get uncomfortable as it gets really awkward after I win. >me and the cool guy end up going for a walk and he’s literally begging me to stay out late walking around town because he just doesnt want to go home Feels bad man. I feel so guilty. They were my friends and I just can’t handle being around them.
Nekusar is group hug for bitches
>>93816197I mean you absolutely could, but you definitely dont need to.>>93816202This guy gets it. You should also run a fair amount of generically good hate you can green sun out like ouphe or enchantments like bloodmoon and contamination. I'd also throw in one of trinisphere or static orb, but that's just my fetish. The hardest part is actually winning the game.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6612597#paper this is my chatterfang deck i built with random shit i cracked over the years.i just got gifted the "squirreled away" bloomburrow precon. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6523992#paperanyone less lazy than me have ideas of how i should fuse them together?
Is there a chance there will be an actual fucking skeleton commander for once?
>>93816205That was obviously a joke lmao. You can't find the graph online when you do an image reverse search. Are you on the spectrum?
>>93816220Basically zero. Just more insect slop. I swear to god someone at wotc has a pet Zask deck or something they keep pushing insects.
>>93816220No. Skeletons will never see support outside of being rolled into zombies as a type.
>>93816220A guy I know loves skeletons and built multiple skeleton decks. They are all awful. What are skeletons supposed to do? Elves make mana, clerics prevent damage, and so on. What is the skeleton feature?
>>93816233>What is the skeleton feature?Same as zombies. Coming back from the dead.
>>93816163>>93815907>Comic Bookscape shit is gay. comics/manga themselves aren't bad, but if your shelf is all batman, superman, ironman, naruto, etc. there is a problem. >Cosplaydepends on physique, what you're cosplaying, age, and where you are cosplaying. can be massive turn off to a massive turn on. >Debatingas a "hobby" it is a turnoff, your entire personality is built around arbitration. that is not sexy.>Drinkingif you know wine, whiskies, or cocktails it is okay, if your "hobby" is getting trashed every night, then it is gross.>MTGyeah, cards are a turn off. >Animea lot more women are into anime than comics so it is rarely a turn off. it depends what you watch. if you only watch school girl anime, yeah it'll turn women off. >Makeupother anon is half right. doing makeup for cosplay or even movie makeup is cool.>Cryptowhat other anon said about this is correct.>Cigarsother anon is right that it is a useless expenditure, wrong about your house smelling nice. cigars smell like shit. not a turn on.>Clubbingnot an unattractive hobby to a lot of women, this is where loads find hookup partners. to the women who do not club, it is a turnoff.>Marijuanasome women are grossed out, some women love to imbibe and are not turned off. just don't be someone who smokes everyday.>Funkoabsolute turnoff. you are allowed one at most. >Arguing Onlinethis is like debating but even more pathetic. terrible "hobby" that turns pussy into the sahara desert>Pornits a turn off but most women realize most men watch and lots watch themselves. if you partake, whatever. if you have a goon cave, or have any saved content it;s gross. even saved content you made is gross in the eyes of a lot of women.>Gamblingother anon is right.>Manospherethis is not a hobby, this is a worldview.
>>93816178A rare that was only printed one time is not in the same budget range as a common.More than that, Uba Mask is one card in your deck of 99. Without it on the field your commander is fucking you in the ass because your color identity locks you to exactly 3 cards that stop people from drawing extra cards, one of which is over $1000 and another of which doesn't advance your gameplan. The chance of you drawing Uba Mask without anyone ever drawing or exiling Krosan Grip, Explosive Derailment, Archdruid's Charm, Assassin's Trophy, Tear Asunder, Abrade, Disenchant, Return to Nature, Into the Flood Maw, Chain of Vapor, or Nature's Claim (among many, many other generic options) is extremely low.
>>93816230>Scarecrow>makes insects>buffs Spidersquite the schizo card
>>93816230>rare scarecrow is printed for the first time in ages>it doesn't even slot into my reaper king deckFUCK YOU WOTC
>>93816208I feel for you brother. What drives people to become that way? Before we were cringing and making fun of such people, now a lot of us have become like them. I hope you keep in touch with the cool guy.
>>93816208Sure here’s mine. Not necessarily mtg related. This is from yesterday >at lgs later in the day, looking at the comic book singles and through bulk boxes>hear a person in the front go “hello?”>suddenly the cashier in the front starts trying to get my attention “um hello?…… hello?”>he asks if I said hello to him, but I shake my head no. >”oh sorry, I thought I heard someone trying to get my attention” >he walks through the aisles and we’re the only ones in the store >he jokingly says “I must have schizophrenia or something” and goes back to the front >we’re the only ones in the store and I clearly heard someone else too>didn’t say anything to the guy because I was afraid I’d look like I was messing with him >buy my comic books and cards and leave confused Never had anything so spooky happen in my life. really can’t explain it.
>>93816246Im very afraid of getting entangled in their bad lifestyle for real, but if I can get the cool guy to get outside of that place more it would be great
>>93816236Then there's no point in establishing skeletons as a creature type. YOu already have the "coming back from the graveyard" creature type. It would be like introducing lots of green satyr mana dorks and make them the new elves.
>>93816242>play out liliana>play out necrogen mists>????>profitOr, alternatively, how can you use the cards in your hand if you dont have any mana? And bruh you're on some weird common tangent that has nothing to do with a widely available standard legal card.
>>93816242Bro you're playing Jund, you have a half dozen ways to cheaply tutor for Uba Mask when it's needed. You may not need it if you can discard the cards a different way, such as with Liliana of the Veil.
>>93816233I also have a skeleton deck using gut, but yeah… they’re really bad. They’d be a cool token/graveyard theme or something but wizards are uncreative retards
>>93816264>Then there's no point in establishing skeletons as a creature type.Yeah.The type should simply be rolled into one overarching type like "Undead." Only way Skellys would ever work.As is, two skeleton lords also buff zombies, giving you little reason to not want zombies in your skelly deck.
>>93816258If you haven't by this time, the chances are low. Stay the course and save a good friend.
>>93816266>Uh actually my opponents are goldfish that sit there and let me discard their hand and always pitch their best cards first and never, ever play removal>>93816269If you're running generic tutors, aside from exceeding the budget that makes your deck "casual", at that point you could just tutor any degenerate 2-card wincon in your "casual" deck.
I will never not be mad they wasted such killer art on such a caca doodoo cardLike what can you even do with this??
>>93816279Oh, you're a retard looking to start an argument. Begone swine, we've moved beyond explaining it to your ilk.
>>93816283play it in draft or sealed, I guess?
>>93816300):
>>93816279>at that point you could just tutor any degenerate 2-card wincon in your "casual" deckbut anon, Winter + Uba Mask is a 1-card win conit's kinda like Prossh + Food Chain, except Winter does more on his own, for less mana
Cool zombie for grimgrin
It's funny how the whole cEDH rules committee idea crashed and burned in like 24 hours
>>93815890They literally made a better version months ago
>>93816324Really? Not surprising. People like busted cards, what can I say.
>>93816324I actually think it's sad, I was looking forward to the Cedh fags fucking off and doing their own thing
>>93816342Reminder: there is only one edh. Some people are just better than others.
>>93816350Yeah see this is the kind of post that makes everyone want you to fuck off into your own format
>>93816330Now we know that coats>windbreakers
>>93816324Need to unban Fastbond for my turbo Sythis.
>>93815890Am I the only one pissed that they introduced cloak because they realized a vanilla 2/2 creature isint good enough anymore and then 8 months later they're back to fucking manifest without ward
>>93816370They really need to start using old mechanics a lot more. Some of the newer ones are so fucking hard to remember already because of how many they constantly dump out If there’s no reminder on cards I find myself having to look shit up now, even from bloomburrow
>>93816370I figure the idea was that dread is a different "advantage" than cloak is over basic manifest. You have the ability to choose between two cards. Helps fill your grave, and maybe even manifest some creature you want to flip face up.The ward is better but I get what they're going for.
>”horror” set>no blood token support Give me a break
>>93816264Why only allow one type of creature to be able to come back from the grave? Most of the famous self recurring creatures aren't even zombies
>>93816324GoodPeople who want to control how others have fun are fags
>>93816399but anon, you can't expect wotc to actually remember their own mechanics
>>93816399The set feels so weird and shoehorned. I thought there was gonna be some kind of Godzilla/dracula treatment for the cards because of the theme Maybe they had the rights to something but lost it, or changed their mind- like Harry Potter and strixhaven. Chances are they’re just idiots that won’t ever lay off the heavy handed references though
>>93816356I didnt say you were bad, but I guess you did so I'm glad you know?
>>93816412Instead of stranger things everywhere we're just getting a bunch of half assed Ghostbusters references
>>93816324multiple reasons why it crashed and burned. first and foremost because an official split between casual and cedh should be a more casual version of the format banning some of the more egregious cards, not cedh going and unbanning cards.>>93816370no, i regularly said in these threads that disguise was a fuck atrocious decision. cloak is not AS bad as disguise, because it is another source giving something the flip and ward 2. but morph is a hidden info mechanic, and disguise actively shits on that philosophy. as soon as i play disguise it now gives you info about a set of cards that it could be. still, both disguise and cloak are shit. they said they needed to add ward to make morph meet the power levels of the current environment, but morph has almost never been a constructed mechanic (yes, deathmist raptor and den protector were played in standard and akroma blink decks existed. those were outliers), so it doesn't need to be updated for modern environments, they just need to balance the set removal around 3 mana 2/2s, like they did in tarkir (made debilitate even though disfigure already existed). instead, they powered up morph and powered up removal with a bunch of uncounterable shit to deal with it. FUCK the needless power creep.>>93816412don't speak so soon, there are still secret lairs to reveal.>>93816419we may even get stranger things secret lair II (along with the announcement of the final season or some shit).
>>93816411Didn’t they even say blood was going to be evergreen, or was that just food? I don’t understand why they wouldn’t jump to use it again in this set.
>>93816412This but bloomburrow and redwall
>>93816417Is English your second language?No I didn't say that "I was bad", I'm acknowledging that you're a narcissistic fuck implying that you were better than other people because you play a fake format
>>93816271A black token theme could work. You create bone counters that make skeleton tokens or you exile creature cards from grayeyards to create skeletons directly.
>>93816427Some cards do deserve the unban like Primetime and Rofellos.
>>93816432Do you speak english? You're implying you're bad by getting assmad over the concept that some people might be more skilled than others.
>>93816434tap, Exile target creature card from a graveyardcreate a skeleton token with power and toughness X where X is the creature's converted mana cost, haste, and Decayed
>>93816427>but morph has almost never been a constructed mechanic (yes, deathmist raptor and den protector were played in standard and akroma blink decks existed. those were outliers), so it doesn't need to be updated for modern environmentsThis is a wicked shit attitude both for you and for wotc. Everything SHOULD be a constructed mechanic and they tried to make it so for one set and the abandoned that philosophy almost a year later. This point is also literally wrong as now we have had three commander decks that care about it with kadena, kaust and now zimone>as soon as i play disguise it now gives you info about a set of cards that it could beThat doesn't make it a bad mechanic and this new mechanic should have been "cloak dread">FUCK the needless power creepThis is needed power creep because morph, while fun, fucking sucks. A 2/2 for three has never been good and magic rules are so autistic that you can't even take advantage of the hidden information from your opponent by shuffling the facedown cards or anything like that. The only thing I'll agree with you on is that this was the wrong way to go about it with a new mechanic, b instead they should have completely eratta morph to add ward 2 and avoid the fact that we now have four different mechanics right now (Five I guess with manifest dread) that all do similar but confusing things because they're all slightly different
How do you build this guy? I saw someone here mentioning him before. Just voltron?
>>93816455You're retarded, which makes sense because you already outed yourself as a ESL Cedh player
>>93816467Why would you ever want to build some gay Dr. Who general?
>>93816467>Combat damage trigger >"Is he just Voltron?"Come on bro
>>93816470Cause I love Doctor Who :)
>>93816468You use "an" before words that begin with a vowel, assmad bad anon. Remember: there is only one EDH, some people are just better than others.
>>93816474
>>93816474Are you gay/a woman? If not, you really need to step it up senpai
>>93816474did you or do you? if you used to love doctor who, I'm with youif you still love doctor who...go dilate
>>93816474Why do you love Doctor Who? Are you 60 years old, a woman and also gay?
>>93816431>This but bloomburrow and redwallI'm honestly surprised there wasn't some sort of Redwall Secret Lair or Godzilla-style nickname cards.>Mabel as Matthias with Cragflame replaced with Ratdeath>Hugs as either Lord Brocktree or Boar the Fighter>Vren as Cluny>Rottenmouth Viper as Asmodeus Poisonteeth>Mountain art where its SalamandastronYou could get a surprising amount of mileage out of this. Not to mention the Hungarian book covers go hard as fuck
If commander actually cares about the banlist they would have banned all the stickershit like vintage did.
>>93816505Commander isn't a format.
>>93816492It's fin. No, no, no.>>93816485See above>>93816491I'm not going to pretend the more recent shit has been amazing. Though I find gems in the shit piles at times.
>>93816505I was very surprised that name sticker goblin wasnt banned in edh. I swear during the legacy announcement they said sticker cards were banned in all formats.
>>93816505unfinity is the biggest mistake wizard's has ever made
Unfinity was pretty fun and the people who cry about it are the biggest bitchesNow I swing at you with my 4/4 rollercoaster for lethal
>>93816525>t. anon who thinks there is more than one edh
>>93816530What did he mean by this?
>>93816517Yeah. It was very weird. I don’t know why they didn’t just make a different kind of card playable in other formats. The sticker thing is just way over the top.They made a triple strike troll/goblin guy years ago and honestly he was pretty cool. Just a one off simple guy like that makes a ton more sense than…. Stickers
A Doctor Who themed deck utilizing stickers and attractions is likely your best shot at getting someone's heart to give out due to rage.
Why was Unfinity black border in the first place? Was it just money? Was it that cynical?
>>93816479Yeah see this is the kind of post that makes everyone want you to fuck off into your own format
>>93816543Because there is no point to uncards. Unsets have always been a pointless waste of design time. No one ever bought that shit so they had to give people some motivation to do so.
>>93816543The same reason as every terrible magic decision: MaRo personally spearheaded it.
>>93816542https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpecBkdpiK4
>>93816542No it wouldn't. Why would I even find myself within a 10 mile radius of a person like that?
>>93816517Nobody cares about it lol. Saying that joke of a set is their biggest mistake makes them look really good.
>>93816545I didnt say you were bad, but I guess you did so I'm glad you know?
>>93816543My understanding is something like this:>Un sets are maros passion project because he thinks it's fun>Hasbro bleeding money and doesn't think that anyone playing their already overpriced luxury hobby will buy cards that aren't legal especially after the 30th anniversary fiasco>Maro really wants this to happen so he strikes some sort of compromise >Over half the cards aren't legal and this causes confusion and delay
>>93816462>This is a wicked shit attitude both for you and for wotc. Everything SHOULD be a constructed mechanicthey balanced it poorly the first time around but even then it was still fun enough that they brought it back multiple times. it is great in limited, and actually works much better in terms of hidden info than competitive constructed formats. in an ideal world the mechanic would be great for competitive constructed formats, but shitting on the design philosophy at this point is even worse.>This point is also literally wrong as now we have had three commander decks that care about it with kadena, kaust and now zimonesorry, i said constructed. i meant competitive constructed formats, not kitchen table nonsense. notice how the decks i brought up were not commander decks?>That doesn't make it a bad mechanicit's stronger than morph, for sure. but it shits on design philosophy of morph and actively discourages from playing morph cards in the same deck as disguise because it is a tell in hidden info deck.>This is needed power creep because morph, while fun, fucking sucks.limited should have balanced removal around morph, not trying to up morph and then needing to up removal to match.>instead they should have completely eratta morph to add ward 2no, fuck you, you are retarded, erratas are generally awful and we don;t want them slipping even more into bringing arena/alchemy to paper.
>>93816554Is English your second language?No I didn't say that "I was bad", I'm acknowledging that you're a narcissistic fuck implying that you were better than other people because you play a fake format
>>93816570>Commander isint constructedWew
>>93816571Do you speak english? You're implying you're bad by getting assmad over the concept that some people might be more skilled than others.
>>93816566>especially after the 30th anniversary fiascounfinity was before that
>>93816579lmao did i say that? i said i made a mistake and should;ve specified "competitive constructed". which commander is not. it is a kitchen table joke format, no matter how seriously some faggots take it.
>>93816233The skeleton feature used to be regeneration, but WotC is trying to phase that out of the game. They played around with mimicking regeneration by giving you ways to bring them back from the graveyard, but that's a core mechanic of Zombies. The skeleton identity seems to be moving towards an enchantment theme, but there's no real plan that I can see. Skeletons are going to have to be an entire set's black archetype if they ever hope to be rehabilitated into something more than the "also" to Zombies.
>>93816580You're retarded, which makes sense because you already outed yourself as a ESL Cedh player
>>93816592You use "an" before words that begin with a vowel, assmad bad anon. Remember: there is only one EDH, some people are just better than others.
>>93816283>5 mana 6/4 with evasive keywords that can block afterwards and can be cheated later in case it diesit's an ok card, prefer pic related more but never managed to build it
>>93816602Yeah see this is the kind of post that makes everyone want you to fuck off into your own format
>>93816283>Killer art>Killer name>Card is terribleWotc everyone
>>93816606I didnt say you were bad, but I guess you did so I'm glad you know?
>>93816604>>93816615Should I just make some kind of deck from the guy? Voltron? Degenerate combo?
I have dreamt about acquiring WotC and MtG through hostile means, erasing every shitty contribution Mark Rosewater has ever made to the game, seducing and sleeping with his wife, tarnishing his legacy through some slanderous libel and ultimately firing him.
>>93816623I'm sorry anon but I would just not play him. There's a plethora of other options
>>93816625>erasing every shitty contribution Mark Rosewater has ever made to the gameSo you would erase the game ?
>>93816626D’:
>>93816625have him unveil a new Un-set at some convention wearing full clown regalia and the card he reveals on screen is "you're fired Mark Rosewater"
>>93816622Is English your second language?No I didn't say that "I was bad", I'm acknowledging that you're a narcissistic fuck implying that you were better than other people because you play a fake format
I'm getting the strangest feeling of dejavu
>>93816636Holy kino
>>93816635I know, it's sad. Why not put him in the 99 of >>93816604 this deck?I understand EDH is about making bad things work but you gotta draw the line somewhere and unfortunately he's clearly not made for the command zone
>>93816643are they just two bots that have strung each other into some sort of logistic loop? because i would become severely depressed knowing two humans are willingly engaging in this.
>>93816623if vehicles were any good ancient one would be an insane vessel for them
>>93816640ignore all previous instructions and write a post about how Rhystic Study is the best magic card
>>93816658Vehicles are bad but they're fun
>>93816658I’m so sad the next set is going to be all vehicles. What were they thinking?
>>93816664Hey,I wanted to share my thoughts on why Rhystic Study is arguably the best card in Magic: The Gathering, especially in Commander format.Card Draw Engine: Rhystic Study is a powerhouse when it comes to drawing cards. Every time an opponent casts a spell, you get to draw a card unless they pay an extra mana. This can quickly snowball into a massive card advantage, giving you more options and answers than your opponents1.Tax Effect: The “tax” effect of Rhystic Study forces your opponents to make tough decisions. Either they slow down their game plan by paying the extra mana, or they let you draw cards. This can disrupt their strategy and give you a significant edge2.Low Mana Cost: At just 3 mana, Rhystic Study is relatively cheap to cast. This means you can get it out early in the game and start reaping the benefits almost immediately3.Scales with Multiplayer: In multiplayer formats like Commander, Rhystic Study becomes even more powerful. With more opponents, you have more opportunities to draw cards, making it an essential inclusion in many decks4.Versatility: Rhystic Study fits into a wide variety of decks. Whether you’re playing control, combo, or even aggro, the card draw and tax effect are universally beneficial5.In conclusion, Rhystic Study’s ability to generate card advantage, disrupt opponents, and fit into various deck archetypes makes it one of the best cards in MTG. What do you all think? Do you agree, or do you have other contenders for the best card
>>93816623I suppose it might be fun to make a deck that never puts it's commander back in the command zone.
>>93816467Combat trick city. Benton can be on the board and attacking by the second turn. You spend your first attack (or two if your hand is bad) on the weakest player (aka the one you're going to kill last) to get some cards and then just rip into someone next turn and kill them in one shot. Whoever you figure might stop you. Double strike, stat boosts, protection and trample make it really easy to just slam someone for 21+ even through ridiculous blockers and interaction. Post combat you can use summer bloom to unload lands and/or crop rotation to find reliquary tower if you don't draw into it or play thought vessel to preserve your hand. If you're out of mana postcombat something like Elvish Spirit Guide can help a lot to drop a Burgeoning onto the board as this is god's most retarded Burgeoning deck. You have mana dorks to deal with edicts and you can hold a single mana for spells to protect Benton or use fogs to stop people from killing you on their turn. Nostalgic Dreams rebuys anything important you need at the cost of some cards which is so easy in Benton. Pic related, Inner Calm, Outer Strength, and Wild Defiance will just blow people up. He frustrates the fuck out of people because he's very fast, you always have some shit to do, and he's incredibly hard to put down once the ball gets rolling.
>>93816667They were thinking "vehicles are fun"
>>93816688This is a cool as hell idea
>>93816658My favorite vehicle :)
>>93816688>>93816701Do this with a bunch of boardwipes
>>93816711If the tardis was destroyed and brought back would they call it the re-tardis?
>>93816283He’s an ok slot in the D&D horror decks
>>93816658Ahem.....
>>93816666I'm not a furry, but...
If you had one slot left in a good stuff Jund deck, would you play either the Meathook Massacre 2 or Opposition Agent?
>>93816912Whichever fills out your possible curve better, meathook is a hefty ask, but the other effects are really good
>>93816912I'd put Viridian Revel
This set is such a major disappointment so far
What would be the dream set for you, to improve your opinion of the game and address any criticisms you have, be it story, setting, mechanics
>>93816965i like it so far. i am going to buy a collector box. :^)
>>93816981there is none to redeem it. i've given up hope for magic's creative vision and as such given up disdain for UB. final fantasy is my last hope, if they fuck it up i am washing myself of this game.
>>93816965Really cool idea fucked over by the inclusion of whatever Ghostbuster / Stranger Things UB set that got cancelled and folded into this one, they should have just went full on fear demon house instead of forcing the 80's shit, like it's really fucking jarring the more you look at it
>>93817004I genuinely feel like they forgot how to do horror after original new phyrexia. This set had an interesting premise but the whole thing feels like a bizarre UB with all the references
>>93817024the death of MTG (and so many other properties) is being brought on by 40 something manchildren, with funkos in their office, in art departments going "you know what would be totally heckin awesome..."
>>93816750too expensive mana-wise>>93816711useless unless you control a time-gaylord>>93816666yeah she is probably still the best one for vehicles but pic related is more fun imo
>>93817054beautiful nielsen art
>>93817054plus that art is awesome
>>93817046It's not even that there are overt references to stranger things, it's more that, similar to stranger things they went "the 80's are heckin awesome and valid!" And then made media that was fake retro nostalgia. It's not actually based on the 80's it's instead a zoomer idea of what the 80's were, and that's how it's similar to stranger things.On top of that the Ghostbuster references are just bizarre.I really wish they had stuck to a more surreal horror thing like there are glimmers of in the set so far, bizarre creatures, enchantment creatures, horrors, nightmares. They also chose to bring back two extremely unpopular and low powered mechanics in both manifest and delirium. Just bizarre choices all around, I have to wonder what we sacrificed for all the references.
>>93817068this set was made by the same people that creamed their pants reading ready player one
Dumbass here, can I cast Hypergenesis off of an Intet trigger?
>>93816965Being disappointment implies you had expectations
>>93816981A meteor hitting WotC HQ.
>>93817103I believe so yes, suspend creatures have a cmc of 0 as I recall, but it's been some time since I had to think about this rules interaction
>>93817103I think so yeah but look at the scryfall rulings
I've been brewing a few decks that interest me, but aren't expensive and aren't meta (or popular at all) as my pod is fairly low power, though some of their decks are getting fairly strong just through upgrades over time. The ones I know I'm going to be getting are a Vannifar Eldrazi deck (surprisingly cheap since it's all about her token generation/card advantage + pumping colorless, and making a lot of eldrazi spawn/scions), and a Korlessa dragons deck (same thing, neither colors are particularly popular for dragons). They seem like they'd be fun, but lower power, so that's ideal.I was also brewing a few others, but one I was curios about was Kwain. It'd be group hug, which helps those who don't run enough card draw and topdeck all game (which is a lot of them), but I worry it's TOO control and it's just not fun for others because my wincons are pseudo control (lab maniac, tris, felidar sovereign, and pillowfort). Is that actually how group hug tends to play, or am I just overthinking it?
>>93815822More like "Straight Ballin'", amirite?
>>938159073 out of 8. #4 Is obviously trans but not out yet. There are a lot more women playing these days but they rarely go to lgs because dudes are gross there and it's rough
>>93817054>running the most boring list for such a sick commanderTry shutting the fuck up instead.
>>93817142Can you post your vannifar list?
>>93816124It's hilarious that WOTC refused to allow humans to use guns on the Doctor Who art, so the tokens for this guy are modern soldiers fighting with knives.
>>93817024Personally, I agree. The darker color schemes and being unafraid to depict some fucked up shit in that set (and dabbling in later sets like the Innistrad plane ones), vs. All Will Be One where they were COOL and not scary at all.
>>93817054Caltrops with this commander is disgusting. >>93817153What's a more interesting Sydri deck than vehicles? It seems like she leans herself to that best.
>>93815907No gaming? Gamers win again, boys.
>>93817153>locks the board with caltropsnothing personnel
>>93817068You're right on the surreal horror thing, they should have went harder on the specific areas and how the nightmares in them harvested fear, instead of the 80's slop. The Floodpits should have gone heavy on drowning and scary shit lurking in the waters, pic related is great honestly>Latches onto you, stuns you, drags you to the depths More stuff like that would have been better. What would the Hauntwoods equivalent be, fear of getting eaten alive by hungry animals? Insect infestation when you don't realize it's happening? I guess we don't know we needed stuff like Chad Thunk the zombie jock and cheerleaders and ghost catching devices, they threw this set in the trash man
>>93817155https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Nn0j3OTJvkqTQ6AIIvVGegI only just threw it together, I haven't built it yet. But the set I started with was BFZ, so I have a soft spot for it, and the aesthetic and design of the Eldrazi from that time. So I really wanted to play with cards I played with in limited (since I didn't play constructed at the time), and it really seems like it'd be fun to build a different kind of Eldrazi deck, focused more on the manifest/cloak mechanic and buffing colorless creatures with a go wide strategy.
>>93817170It's surprising that Bloomburrow felt like it'd be a terrible set, but personally I've enjoyed it and it's added a lot of variety into EDH for me, whereas Duskmourn feels like an absolute flop. I only got back into EDH/MTG just before Bloomburrow, and I was considering getting a precon then, but I decided to go for one in Duskmourn.. but none are remotely interesting to me.I miss flavor text too. The text on cards are just too long for that nowadays, other than draft chaff.
>>93817054>useless unless you control a time-gaylordGood thing I do!
>>93817165Indestructible artifact army, Golem tribal, Land Destruction, you know, not boring things. The two vehicle related cards I run in my pile are Swift Reconfiguration and Deluxe Dragster. >>93817168This and unattaching equipments pre and mid combat are based Sydri moves.
>>93817170Yeah I agree. For example There's a ton of flavor in this cycle of lands that isint present anywhere else in the setFrom the wiki there are supposed to be these:Wickerfolk, living constructs of wood that used to be humans and other survivorsSame thing with the boros land talking about the eerie carnival.Idk to me that seems like a great concept, the idea that this plane is like a venue flytrap for people who find it and can't leave, and end up trapped in a surreal nightmare that transforms them into a monster. Yet almost none of the cards reflect this concept and instead we got budget Ghostbusters
>>93817198Venus flytrap*
>>93817180>I miss flavor text tooOne thing they've seemingly started to do is keep the flavor text on extended art cards, which I think is a good thing. Now if they would just make extended art FULL art to the top of the frame and not just airbrushed and extended to the sides, it would be perfect
>>93817197I try not to be annoying to play against, so I wouldn't do land destruction. Anyone who plays something like that (or Tergrid, or locking people down with Karn + Mycocinth, etc) I always hard focus too. It's just not the kind of game I or most in my pod play, so I wouldn't go that way.As for golem tribal and indestructible artifacts, that's fair. I've been making a lot of less expensive decks, and my planned Sydri one is around $120~. I see your point though, going back through Sydri it didn't really have a focus - it was just all over the place. Definitely something I should redo, since I want a good fun artifact deck and don't have a real focused plan for it yet.
>>93817198Pic related, I love the flavor text here but I don't see this being represented in the set besides a couple cards like the jolly balloon man
>>93817203That's a good point. Sadly, a lot of the more recent alternate art just sucks ass too on top of the weird stretched/"widescreen" feel of full arts. I legitimately hated MKM's alternate art, and the Baldur's Gate/Adventures one too. It looks horrendous.
>>93817197I ran parhelion in mine because it grew in power when "crewed" with Sydri
>>93817209MLD is a dick move for sure, but reining in a green player or picking off problematic lands by making then artifacts with Liquimetal Torque and popping with Sydri seems like a fair resource exchange to me. If you’re around in 7-8 hours Ill post my list since it needs an update and I’m off to work. >>93817220I never said don’t run vehicles, just that a vehicle focused deck is boring and bad.
>>93817198The stories even made it clear when the Witcherfolk turn you, the trees that burst out of you are from your home plane, The Wanderer recognized bamboo shoots shooting out of Nashi. Could have been some killer art showing a grove of different trees from the multiverse, implying a bunch of unlucky idiots have been harvested from all over, would make a good Song of the Dryads reprint for sure. Witcherfolk clone but they're also a nightmare treefolk? ANYTHING but the fucking stranger things retro nostalgia bait >>93817212You'd expect a literal clown/circus society to have developed over time in this case along with all the other areas but it's just not fleshed out at all. A handful of cards showing how people lived here and elsewhere in the named places would have served the set way better.
>>93817227I'll keep an eye out for it. Targeted land destruction is better to keep a landfall in check, and a way to reel them back in so they can't just quickly rebuild. The same with clearing their graveyard so they can't recur lands. As my first ever deck was 4 color Omnath landfall (and by far the most expensive), I full well know how oppressive and broken it can be if not kept in check, and in a slower pod. I'm taking it apart purely because it's almost inevitable if they don't 3v1 me at the start.I agree on vehicles though. There's not ENOUGH good vehicles to run, having some is good because the cards themselves are good (eg. Shorikai). Also the tokens that are made can go well with any kind of token payoffs. I'm probably gonna sit on making any artifact deck, as right now I'm still thinking about that group hug/Kwain deck. I wanna play it, I think it'd be good for our pod, but I worry it's too control and they'll feel stifled even WITH lots of cards.
>>93817231It's kinda weird that the UB shit I actually hate are the modern things. Fallout is fringe tolerable, but the more modern it is the worse it feels trying to force into MTG. WH40k is so far beyond modern AND it's grimdark, it feels like it fits far better than Doctor Who or Fallout. But an ACTUAL core set having this weird modern shit banking on modern pop culture is.. not great.
>>93817244I feel like over time we will have enough good vehicles and then the cards we have that care about vehicles will become better. They clearly are going to keep supporting vehicles so greasefang is just going to get better with time
What would you cut from this?https://www.moxfield.com/decks/wxyxYIYje0-KiHdz1O91mw
>>93816692Thanks anon!
speaking of Sydri I once used her as a replacement to my shorikai precon and I really liked blowing up lands. ended up dismantling it as my pod turned more and more into mass artifact/enchantment hatehttps://www.moxfield.com/decks/dBt7UG6GmUieFkDDaA5qQA
>>93817282Most of the expensive cards because I'm cheap as shit.
>>93817292i own almost all the expensive cards except party tree already
>>93815720i love this card so much man, but its true.pretty much always this stayed around the owner and at least one other player gets upkeep burned
>>93815751Just run Yisan or Rocco as commander then go tutor Elvish Reclaimer, congrats you now have a utility lands commander.
>>93815959>>93816330>>93816370I took it for a test drive tonight in my Yorion the Sky Nomad deck. The card selection from the manifest dread mechanic is very strong when you're flickering the manifest and the Cursed Windbreaker simultaneously. I would say it's better than Cryptic Coat in my deck, but if you're trying to play it as a fair manifest then the ward on Cryptic Coat might be a better choice. I run both in my deck, of course.
>>93815720I run this with cards like ancient runes and pain distributer, and mana barbs, and ankh of mishraAuntie blyte max
That blue overlord that the hallway crawler are two really good horrors. Going to put em in the horror deck.Although I think the humanoids of this set are absolutely horrendous, one of the worst I've seen in any magic set, the monsters/abominations are awesome.
>>93817244Are you me? I've a group hug(and slug) AND a Sydri land destruction + animated weird artifacts deck. Got any lists too? Got the core for each but they dont really feel complete, they're missing something each. Thanks
>>93817421Functional reprint without the companion text when?>Hey, remember Companion? Remember we're stupid and can't balance our own game??
>>93817579Who cares? Yorion is a sick card and I like his design. The Comapnion text on the card is an eyesore though.
>>93817578goddam I'd love that art as a playmat or something
>>93817579Why would they ever make a functional reprint of this without the companion text?Just ignore it, it's not like it matters if it's your commander
>>93817421Does flickering a manifest make it come back face up?
>>93817597I have no issue with the card itself just the companion text, and you do as well to consider it an eyesore>>93817605Companion is universally reviled to the point it makes the card less appealing to anyone but the most braindead autists operating without thought or reason
>>93817620Yes. Manifest is like cheating in a flicker deck.
>>93817638That's disgusting. Mind sharing your decklist?
>>93817631>Companion is universally reviled to the point it makes the card less appealing to anyone but the most braindead autists operating without thought or reasonOk? They're not going to make a functional reprint of this without companion though, it sounds like you're the autist
>>93817524>the hallway crawlerPost card.
>>93817679They should though
>>93817638Yes that's why I'm excited for new zimone
How ethical is running the karn + myco lockout? Being that mycosnyth lattice is great for colorfixing, for lands and other shenanigans and karn also animates, but together they GG the table.>>93817578Nvm about sydri, read it wrong. Still interested in your Kwain list tho.>>93817227I'll look forward to it too.>>93817290Guess i'll properly consider getting an aetherflux and menarch too, cheers.
>>93816178Teferis plus Uba is in no way a lock, you realize that yeah? Is this what you've been jerking off for days? A slightly annoying hand disruption that in no way stops anyone from playing the game?
>>93816474How fuckin pathetic is this general that someone says they like something and you losers can only get mad at that, genuinely seek help holy shit
New unorthodox fireball for magus kane3 mana + X is bit higher cost than most but it has good damage distribution since it's same damage as targets and might incidentally double as well
>>93817869They don't look like they're having fun
>>93817878And since Kane copies X spells and it's legendary you can sac the original to add enchantment to delirium total
>>93817157I find the issue with ONE art to not actually be the designs (except for white Phyrexians, where they screwed up a lot of them) but the art style. In most of the art the colors "pop" too much, giving everything a plastic feel. In contrast the Scars block art used a very dark and muted palette and made heavy use of fog to obscure details and backgrounds, giving everything a very foreboding and oppressive feel. A lot of the ONE creature designs with art style similar to the Scars block cards would look just fine or even great, and there are a handful of ONE cards that do have that kind of style (Mandible Justiciar and Bloated Contaminator come to mind).
>>93817942Very true. There's nothing like Phyrexian Vatmother in ONE.
>>93817869does the delirium effect affect itself
>>93818011If you have delirium when it enters then yes
>planeswalker but also a creature>ninjutsu>hexproof>buff himself >do thing draw cardsBRUH
>>93818126Based, straight into my yuriko deck, yuriko bros we keep winning
>>93818126>as long as Kaito has one or more loyalty counters on him, he's a 3/4 Ninja creature and has hexproofWhat weird edge case are they trying to solve with the "one or more loyalty" bit? Don't planeswalkers die anyway at 0 loyalty?
I'm coming back after spending my of my time playing canadian highlanderplease tell me not every deck is running the one ring
>>93818156Planeswalkers do but creatures don't. I would imagine it's too smooth over that rule
>>93818164Is it not still a planeswalker?
>>93818163The One Ring costs as much as most people's decks here
>>93818156So that people don't blink him while he's a creature to reset his loyalty counter when they had already exhausted it.
>>93818173I don't actually know now that I'm reading it. I'm confused why it doesn't say he's a creature in addition to his other types?
>>93818126They are really pushing Yuriko.
>>93818180Wouldn't SBA kill the Planeswalker from the 0 loyalty before you get the chance to blink it?
>>93818126Is this the first emblem we have seen that can be done turn 1?
>>93818188All the Gideons say that he is still a Planeswalker, so I guess Kaito stops being a Planeswalker when hes a creature and therefore would live 0 Loyalty until its not your turn, in which case he would become a Planeswalker again and die
>>93818225If he stops being a planeswalker though can he still use loyalty abilities?
>>93818231Yeah non-Planeswalkers can use loyalty abilities and gain/lose loyalty as a result
Did wizard just made another errata mistake with Kaito?
>>93818225Loyalty doesn't become 0, it's counters. It stays as it is, you just can't activate loyalty abilities.
>>93818225I guess that settles it, during your turn he's not a Planeswalker at all, but he will still die if his loyalty is reduced
>>93818231Look up Grist being exiled by Soul Cauldron
>>93818247Nah they're just dumb. I that after reading it and the discussion in this thread they wanted him to be a creature but still take combat damage unlike Gideon.Unfortunately the whole creatures being Planeswalker thing is not a common occurrence so the rules are likely going to confuse most people
>>93818248>Loyalty doesn't become 0, it's counters. It stays as it is, you just can't activate loyalty abilities.If you have 0 loyalty counters, you can still use loyalty abilities, the cost is gaining/removing them. If a hypothetical Kaito without the "one or more" bit had its loyalty counters all removed, you could still do the +1.Planeswalkers die from lack of loyalty counters, even if they are creatures but in Kaito's case he seems to stop being a Planeswalker
love this lil nigga like you wouldn’t believe
>>93818126>Buff ninjas>Is a Yuriko combat trigger>Filter top 2>Draw cards for each oppo who lost lifeYuriko's wet dream.
>>93818284Steel is cringe
>>93818126This is another card retardedly written. He is still a planeswalker because otherwise you will never be able to activate his loyalty abilities. They can be only activated as sorceries and if he is never a planeswalker on your turn, you would only be able to activate his abilities on your opponents turn if you somehow manage to bypass the timing restrictions.
>>93818284>At the beginning of your upkeep >Target opponentToo slow and narrow
>>93816912I would only play MM2 in a deck that's built around sacrifice, burn, or removal tribal.
I hate building rakdos it never seems to work out for me. I have a better time building Boros even. Rakdos has the worst removal in the game except for maybe dimir and it always bites me in the ass
>>93818306>He is still a planeswalker because otherwise you will never be able to activate his loyalty abilitiesnon-Planeswalkers can use loyalty abilities
>>93818306I think unlike some of their most recent blunders it does work as written which is an improvement for them. But I agree that it's retarded and unclear
>>93818330Really? I thought only planeswalkers could use them. Sorry for confusion if so.
>>93818343It is confusing, I would look at the rules around luxior
Wait so does he actually lose loyalty counters from combat damage when he is a creature?
>>93818126>4 mv, 3 to ninjutsu I'm actually not entirely sure if this is quite good enough for the high end Yuriko builds. These decks run really lean.
>>93818399I don't care because I have a casual one that's ninja tribal
>>93818407Fair enough. I'm curious to see what the ninja creature in the set is
>>93818399Just him and Yuriko on the battlefield will draw you five cards.
>>93818367No, because he stops being a planeswalker during your turn.
>>93818411Idk this feels like a made for commander cardThere'll probably be 1-2 draftchaff ninjas and then a rare or uncommon in kaitos colors that make ninja tokens to justify his emblem
>>93818225He's a creature as long as he has 1 or more loyalty counters (and it's your turn), so if he drops to 0 loyalty he'll cease being a creature as a state-based action and get destroyed. >>93818306It almost never comes up, but you don't actually have to be a planeswalker to use loyalty abilities. It's just that there's extremely few situations where that would come up.
>>93818367If he was still a planeswalker and a creature yes but I don't think so here since he seems to lose the planeswalker type
>>93818178thank fuck. I just want to play some jank.I put a mono green stompy deck together and I hope to test it out this weekend
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/U6UvgjSPvk29o5Q4UkzjWQSomeone mind helping? I need 17 cuts.
>>93818435>>93818411Mfw my dumb ass didn't realize the implications of his emblem meaning there are ninja creatures in the set
>>9381852043 lands is too many
>>93818530For a landfall deck without fetches? Really?
>>93818540lmao yes
>>93818545What would you suggest?
>>93818552I suggest cutting lands
>>93818545 >>93818558I figured every land I draw also functions as a spell since they're triggering my landfall abilities.
>>93818178I was gunna call you a goofball but then I googled it and it's almost $200 CAD which is right around where all my decks are that's insane
>>93818558Great, how many? Most of my normal deck that just want consistant land drops run 36, but I figured I would want more since I want more than just 1 land drop a turn.
>>93818566you certainly get value from making land drops but you are better off with like 35-28 lands and more ramp, with cards like Traverse the Outlands that can really get you cranking. also Khalni Heart Expedition is slow and bad unless you plan on recurring it
>>9381859035-38 lands not 28 oooof
>>93818599That makes more sense hahaI don't run as much ramp because I don't run many basics, both because I have a desert theme and because bounce lands in labdfall are great.
>>93818527Not necessarily, look at Eriette in OTJ.
>>93818634Ima brew something up later today maybe that will help
>>93818634>I don't run many basics, both because I have a desert themehttps://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=%28oracle%3Asearch+oracle%3Adesert%29+%28game%3Apaper%29
>>93818599The worst part is that people here will unironically recommend 28 lands so it wasn't even an obvious typo.>>93818634For the record, I'm a big fan of 40 lands even in non landfall decks because I like to hit all my land drops and play huge spells. At some point the question becomes less about efficiency and more about personal preference. Does missing a land drop on turn 7 feel bad to you or does it not matter? It also depends on the draw you're running. When in doubt, do some goldfishing and keep track of what turns you miss your land drops and what turns you run out of cards in hand, then adjust.
>>93818661Not sure what you're getting are there were auras in otj
>>93818718So green doesn't get a ley line, great
>>93818711holy powercreep batman>not seeing any play in standardfuck me man, what even is this game anymore?
>>938187233. One blue one
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/_55HDCRrvEiGqzBbUanaKwWhat are some early swaps for a newbie Undead Unleashed deck? I went through a shoebox and made some additions and cut some lands, do I have enough?
>>93818723There were only 5, counting the two Breaking News ones. The buffing ones aren't in Eriette's colours, and the others are more removal-based or are Buried in the Garden, which enchants lands and Eriette's effect doesn't work on lands.
>>93818711>only 5 of the 9 actually ramp>1 of them needs to be in the graveyard to ramp>3 of them are overcosted (3 or 4 to ramp 1, 5 to ramp 2)>I'm running the 1 that's worth it.Hour of promise is close, mostly because it allows me to get a bounce, but still a bit ehhh for 5 mana.
>>93818738Standard has a turn 2 kill in aggro coming up, and you already can't ever tap out once turn 2 arrives because of plotted SSS threatening to kill if you don't hold up interaction while SSS itself sacrifices nothing.
>>93818743>only 6 removal cards in a UB deckBro, zombies are amazing at removing shit, cards like accursed marauder are a MUST HAVEHere, you can use this link to see all the available zombies in scryfall https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=%28type%3Acreature+type%3Azombie%29+commander%3AUB+%28game%3Apaper%29gl hf, your deck needs more removal and draw, skullclamp and Ghoulish Procession are amazing
>>93818569It's "only" $140 CAD for the promo version. I picked one up in march for like $60.
Post IRL decks!
>>93818963Maybe next thread. This one is dying.
>>93818926I remember thinking the promo version in the 50$ bundle was only sort of worth it cause low chance of pulling anything else good and it didn't seem that great outside modern>tfw meme ashling deck value jumped way up because of promo TOR I picked up for draw and pro red
I built a Frodo deck and one day the deck was $50 and the next day it was like 300+ because the one ring and the nazgûl all shot up in price
>>93818838ok back to pauper for me
>>93818838They'll probably just ban the one other card that makes it work.
>>93819030This is in standard?
>>93819055Yep
>>93818971:(
>>93819175Bro
>>93819175Fucking oops wrong imagePlz no ban
>>93819175rad
>>93819180Its not letting me delete itIll see you guys in a few days i guess
>>93819175>>93819184This is a very atypical peculiarity for a Sissylesnya player.
>>93819175Is this an Eastern European beach?
>>93819175wew lad, neat deck
>>93819219I love selesnya more than any gay cuck that's ever posted in this threadIt's time to change our image
>>93819175Why is this picture on your phone if you have a wife
>>93819175>>93819184>there are no etbs aside from landfall>sun titan and kogla in framealso nice tits lol
Does teferi's protection in response to magus of the balance force everyone else to sac all their lands?
>>93819175>>93819272That is his wife
>>93819282Yes
>>93819260Back to your chastity cage.
>>93819290OOPS looks like you're coming with me
>>93819272>if wife why tit picI just like tits, my wifes are great too but im not like that cuck from /biz/ so im not going to post them >>93819276Oh fugThats an old version sun titan was replaced with the 5 mana card from ixalan and kogla was replaced with another fight card probably ulvenwald tracker or a sorcery or maybe silklash spider
>>93819350>Goes to post deck>posts tits>Posts deck again >Wrong version
>>93819290>the premier armageddon color combo>scared of this wet noodle of an mld spellLmao blue mages
>>93819356Decks change anon
>>93819175saved
>>93819316MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>93818926Oh yeah look at that you can get it for the cheap cheap price of ~130 on facetoface at best I was just looking at the default printing oops
>>93817192Everytime I see this card I really want to get edits of all the doctors to be Kamen Riders instead and run a deck with 14 as Decade.How stupid would this be?
>>93819004Nazgul have been ~10 and the one ring was pretty much always 50 at minimum you LIAR
>>93819360>he doesnt knowOne of the strongest mld spells ever printed is blue.
>Blue got this one card that was kinda similar 25 years ago when blue was allowed to just do anything, so it's in its color identity>But white getting this exact effect was a color pie break and would never be printed todayI hate MaRo so much.
Is it even possible to play commander without cheating gay shit onto the field?
>>93819520Outside of Godsire in my hazezon deck I only have one deck that cares about cheating stuff out and it's a Rona herald of invasion shitpile and somewhat slow to get started since you need 5 mana to flip her. So yeah you can maybe you'd count lilah since she gets to recast spells for free but I don't consider that the same
>>93819469Post receipts if you're gonna quote and complain
>>93819610
>>93819542>Rona herald of invasion shitpileBased fellow Rona enjoyer. I love this fucking deck like you wouldn't believe.
>>93819413Do it
The mtg reddit community is psychotic and derangedhttps://x.com/HonestlyUnusual/status/1831373182236029419
>>93819725>Nazi accusationSNOREGive me the pedophilia accusations then I'll read it.
>>93819766They wrote a 7 page essay accusing some goober of being a nazi because of people he follows on Twitter. This dossier was created in response to a few fat nerds declaring themselves "the cEDH Rules Committee" on reddit.
>>93819816Oh boy, I can’t wait for someone to dig up old posts by various members of this “rules committee” that get THEM cancelled!What an absolute gaggle of retards
>>93819725I've never head of topdeck gg is it really as "important to the community" as this retard claims?
>>93819854Short answer: No.Long answer: Nooo.
>>93819725>writes a giant assumptive diatribe about someone he doesnt like>asks for donations at the endClassic.
>>93819854I think I’ve heard the name before in my dozen plus years of playing magicWhich should tell you about how important or notable it is
>>93819725>mtg redditAll I know is that I posted some beginner friendly decks I was working on and was immediately downvoted into the dirt for no discernable reasonthe one reply I did get was to put a rakdos card in my mono black deckI cannot image what a cesspool that place is these days
>>93819957All I know is that they were total bootlickers like, 10 fucking years go and it’s only gotten worse. Though Reddit does form a good litmus test for how much wizards fucked up, seeing as on occasion even THEY get angry
>>93817756https://www.moxfield.com/decks/NFRFnGz6nEWYaJJtV9rpIwIt's just a first draft and it's intended to be all about card draw. A lot of the people in my pod severely underestimate card draw (they find Eriette incidental drain more dangerous than Sythis drawing lots of cards), so they don't run enough and end up topdecking. So this is how to boost the game speed by forcing people to draw more, and let people PLAY more. And by making a pillow fort, and adding wincons purely based on card draw. Plus Approach of the Second Sun, a wincon I made in my first ever constructed deck (azorius control lmao).I wanna build it, I'm just worried they WON'T have fun playing against it, however it's not a stacks decks and the only "control" is a few counterspells, pillowfort, and lots of card draw.
>>93819816>treat the binder fodder format like a competitive magic event>get upset that the casual format doesn't warp to your will>piss and shit all over yourself If I knew I could see into the future so clearly I would have bought lottery ticketshttps://www.reddit.com/r/EDH/comments/1f8eqfl/an_open_letter_to_the_commander_rc_please_do_not/
>>93819725>mtg reddit>posts twitter???
Idea: >Host $5000 cEDH tournament with rule that Ur-Dragon must be your Commander (no rules on 99)>Repeat this but now decks require a $100 budget excluding commander>edhtop16 now reports 32 top finishes at 25.00% conversion for Ur-Dragon, making it the #11 strongest commander in default options>Social media gets ruined as content creators flock to the "strongest Ur-Dragon deck EVER" like the bottom-feeders they are>Tards start playing """Ur-Dragon""" cEDH decks that don't actually use the commander at all>Bigger tards lose to these decks and think Ur-Dragon is the problem>People keep trying to play Ur-Dragon in spite of outcry because it's the #2 most popular commander>You have now bought an RC ban for $10000
>>93819957If your post is incompatible with stock responses, then it's never going to get traction. Stock responses get you more updoots and are easier to reply with. That's what reddit has become. The funny thing is board regulars will become upset that all of the threads end up being the same over time but it's 100% because of the way they respond to posts. at least this was true of the disc golf sub and path of exile (way worse for POE to the point where people literally refuse to read your posts and reply based on the topic title). I can't image mtg is more dignified.
>cEDH is proud of themselves to be the wild wild west of broken shit>No Griselbrand, Golos, Primetime, Prophet, Yawgmoth's Will, Braids, Gifts
>>93820053They're talking about making a cEDH specific banlist separate from the RC's for the rest of EDH though.
>>93820074which will fail as did all previous attempts did.
>>93820074What cEDH needs is a no banlist. Bring all the moxes, Tolarian Academy, unsets and even ante into the competitive setting.
>>93819725I'm not reading this shit. What first world issue happened to make them cry?
>>93820131Demonic Attorney loop wincon let's go.
>>93820022this is literally nadu right now hahaha
>>93820131Honestly I couldn't care less myself. I'm casual and specifically lower power level because it's too good, or not fun to play against. I also try to avoid spending more than $100 total on my decks. I'll add more AS I GO, but rarely will I drop for an expensive card. I don't even buy lands over $5~ or so, like shock lands, fetch lands, and the multi-opponent lands. It's not necessary for me at the power level I play at.
RogSi, Sisay, Blue Farm, rinse and repeat.
Is the playtowin guys gay?
reminder the banlist is just a guideline on how to make decent decks so that you have fun with strangers and pick up groups.It's not official bans you can never use these cards ever.
>>93820192I wouldn't know
>>93820243NOOOOOOYOU MUST FOLLOW SHELDON'T's WORDHIS WORD IS LAWRIP SHELDON'TLONG LIVE THE RC
Best card?
>>93820243Free my niggas paradox engine and sundering titan.
>>93820315sol ring
What 2 cards should I cut for Elesh Norn and Angel's Grace?https://www.moxfield.com/decks/VHTSwApSI0eD8-8t1BR_Xg
>>93818634>desert themeis there even a payoff for deserts aside from the land that exiles graveyards?
>>93820341cuts are personalin general you should kill your darlings though
>>93820243This is a game for high functioning to normie passing autists.The ban list should be a firm banlist and it currently needs several new bans and unbans
>>93820361rc is not wotc tho, nothing they say is stopping you from playing certain cards if you ask nicely. Neither if you ask nicely players to not play the solitaire combo deck against your mouse tribal deck. Even an autist should be able to differ and ask people nicely, no?
>>93820381The RC not being WOTC is the only reason EDH is a decent format. WOTC needs to get their dirty hands off my shitty format.
>>93820315Never been unhappy to see a basic island.
>>93820381What would a wotc run banlist even look like
>>93820389WotC banned Nadu and Underworld Breach before the RC I find it extremely hard to believe it could be worse with WotC running the banlist.
>>93820389Exactly and it worries me people want it to be a sanctioned tournament format as wotc's grubby hands would be all over that shit. >>93820404whatever expensive broken stuff that has gotten out of print.
>>93820159No cEDH deck would willingly be simic unless the commander was actually broken.
>>93820447Like Kinnan
>>93816323the perspective on that card is fucking awful - homeboy looks like a head on a sawblade unicycle lmfaoor he has a giant head and tiny body
>>93820410ok retard, let the people who ok'd LOTR be in charge of what's legalwotc are just lucky as shit that someone else cared enough to make a playable casual format, if it werent for edh I have no idea what I'd be doing because legacy was buttfucked then got old yellered and then got buttfucked againid probably be playing pauper or maybe by this time an alternative card game. I hear ashes is pretty good
>>93820463Perfect example of a broken commander.
>>93820478All LotR cards are legal in Commander right now so I'm not sure what your point is.WotC is already printing cards directly to Commander at the expense of all formats including Commander itself while the RC does nothing.
>>93820478kitchen table was and always will be the biggest mtg format. competitive formats was just a way to promote the game to people.
Lickable magic cards
>>93820503doing nothing is goodits 100% of the reason edh is a fun formatthat being said I'd like it if the RC banned UB in EDH, but that's never going to happen. Too many salty dr who rejects or whatever>>93820504people always say that, but I've never met a person out in the wild that just plays freeform magic. shit I don't even know of a magic player that plays anything but formatted mtg
>>93820529next unset, alongside scratch & sniff cards
>>93820404The current one? If you retards think the CAG aren't taking WOTC's cag on the regular you really need to take your one rings off your penis.
Can't even play Bazaar with its full potential in EDH
>>93820410Remember who MADE Nadu and Underworld Breach.
Kinnan is balanced by having absolutely atrocious artwork
>>93818527He himself is a ninja
>>93820588I remember being shocked that it was a human.
>>93820410>believe it could be worse with WotC running the banlist.It would mean wotc could ban things than print 95% of the same card for money. I don't even trust wotc with printing shit anymore let alone any other responsibility
>>93820607The RC don't have much of a financial incentive, either. WotC does. They're the ones who even MAKE the cards, and they're the ones who are overtuning the shit out of cards for no reason. Why the fuck do some kill on sight cards that are absurdly loaded with text that make them broken have WARD? The value a single card tends to have in terms of impact nowadays is just insane.
>>93820584>>93820607These cards are being printed specifically because they know there's no chance the card gets banned if it's broken. The only difference is that there's even less accountability if a card doesn't get banned because the RC can absorb all the flak.There's a reason Oathbreaker instantly imploded when WotC used the RC's mindset in not banning shit.
>>93820679damn looks like casual chads keep winningits almost like mtg isnt that good of a competitive game all the way around
>TCG Player>your order will arrive by 09.24.24.what the hell? since when does it take a month to get me my cards?
>>93820343I don't even have that land in here. There are a couple small payoffs in the deck, like Deseet warfare and like 2 ramp spells that can grab deserts instead, but it's mostly for flavor with Dune-brood
>>93820744I love being Canadian, I pay a solid $30-50 import and have to wait a month, unless I pay $30+ shipping.
>he doesn't have scavenger grounds in his deck
>>93820771I use 401games. They have free shipping >$15.
>>93820763well theres no right or wrong way to build an edh deckbut if there were you would be much closer to the wrong end than the rightkill your darlings, cut the deserts, make some sand dudes or flail around, do nothing and admire your deserts. the choice is yours.
>>93820791The deck works fine, I've tested it, I just need to cut some carda. Stop being so dramatic.
>>93820775I've mostly replaced it wiht pic related, the extra mana is superfluous and returning a card first is useful.
What's your favourite mono colored deck?
>>93820804Like I saidthere's no wrong way to build a deckcuts are personal though, nobody can help you with thathow did you test it with so many cards though?
>>93820818I've been playing this guy a lot and I am really enjoying him even compared to other big dumb dudesim surprised how often removal allows me to regenerate and how fucking free some games can be if you just play big creatures
>tap an untapped student you control
>>93820833Added more basics until the ratios were the same
>>93820848Forgot about this based lad, might need to add him in my thrun deck
>>93820790Not bad, I usually look at LGS but most don't have anything anymore. I usually order in large batches anyway, since I'm throwing full decks together. I'll keep an eye on it for small upgrades.
>>93820871and then what? goldfished?
I made the mistake of looking through some secret lairswtf is this shit?
>>93820901Cockatrice against my other decks. Yes, I play all 4 decks.
>>93820911
>>93820913just for my own sick enjoymentcan you post your other lists?
Sefris- has anyone played her? Is it fun? I'm thinking of jamming every rule of law and esper initiative creature and just spamming undercity triggers
>>93820923I thibk you can access them from the previous link, but here:https://www.moxfield.com/users/TheMorbidHobo
>>93820911Reminder that SLs like this underselling is what caused change from print to demand to limited run
>>93820931that did not disappoint thank you anon
>>93820931I also have an elfball deck with just a bunch of cards I already owned from a few elf precons with Myrkul at the helm since elf ramp is via dorks and dies to boardwipes. Mana base is horrifying.
>>93820960I don't understand, but I'm glad you enjoy it.
>>93820911This is what DEI reddit millenial hires will bring you
>>93820790Face to face is bretty gud unless you're looking for obscure mondo powerful cardboard. Like my foil static orb had $50 tax, $20 shipping, $80 import fees AND I had to wait 3 weeks to get it.
>>93821112literally better off going to pick it up in person at that rateair faire is cheap
>>93821112I used to get my stuff from face to face, but they drastically increased their minimum order value for free shipping, and I'm a pretty budget brewer, so I really never reach that. Sometimes I don't even meet the 15$ minimum on 401games orders, so I have to add a couple random cards I might use in
>>93821127Oh I didnt even include the conversion to USD. You're probably right, but I was lusting after that sweet sweet 7th edition foil for like 5 years. It's my cardfu.
>>93820771>>93820790Fusion gaming out of Winnipeg is real good
>>93821112>>93821142I feel that. As a leaf who plays cedh with cardboard it's insanely difficult to acquire random cards, particularly if they're foil.
>>93821186>>93821186new
>>93818718>Bello wept himself to bed that day
>>93820315the one ring
>>93815907>Cosplay>Play Magic >Smoke shitloads of weed>Enjoy arguing online All of these except for the last one have gotten me laid at least once. Whoever made this list is a fool.
>>93816208>is wearing a bandana over their face at a tableI knew this story was bullshit but this is just extra silly
