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>Thread Question/Prompt:
Would you ever keep a hand that is all lands an mana rocks?
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i want to fuse my morph deck and +1 counters deck with this OG. any fun and secret tech?
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>TQ
only if my commander draws cards or i play lands matters
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>>93826121
Its not secret, but Ancient Statue goes infinite at 4 counters.
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>>93826121
Ancestral Statue***

Also Spellskite is a good card for protection to have in the deck
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>>93826094
>TQ
Of course I would, that's a great hand.
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Masters 25 foiling is so shit
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>>93826094
I have and I will continue to do so
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Do you think we’ll see a Commander Masters 2 in the future? If so, when do you think it might be released?
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>>93826140
>foiling is so shit
yup
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>>93826178
Probably, they release masters sets quarterly now dont they?
Im sure it will happen eventually
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>>93826178
Next year.
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>>93826094
Why does the concept of tempo filter edh players so hard?
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>>93826178
Every masters set is commander masters.

>>93826196
Probably because tempo decks don't work in multiplayer.
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>>93826196
because countering a single ramp spell while you have 2 whole other opponents just isn't the smart move you think it is, blue player
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>still haven't seen an Eerie version of Forgeborn Oreads that pings each opponent instead of just one target
Come on, WotC, it's like the lowest-hanging fruit if you're going to make rooms the UR draft theme.
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Ur Dragon Dildo
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>deck is mostly draw
>slam omniscience
>so do you win, anon?
>pass
lol
lmao
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>>93826208
They sure do and they win all the time.

>>93826228
>t. Brainlet
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>>93826295
My friend group was playing once, and we had just had a spell slinging "counter your counter so I can counter your spell" exchange. After it was done, my friend untapped, cast Omniscience, wheeled the table...and drew 7 lands. He had to pass his turn and we killed him. We still joke about that, but he wasn't laughing at the time.
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>>93826094
>Unironically lost to a cruelclaw meme deck
I am ashamed of myself
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Why does she have huge tits?
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>>93826358
Do they mean equal to permanents sacrificed??
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Does control work in multiplayer?
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>>93826370
Yes
Treasure buff is real
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If you had to choose one basic land art for each type and afterwards you can't use any other, what would you pick? I want to buy 1000 basics and be done with it. 200 of every type. I hate the inconsistency and the different borders and some of them looking ass.
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>>93826370
no it means emotional damage, from killing your own creatures
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>>93826411
Lorwyn has some of the most beautiful basic land art, if you want modern borders.
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>>93826335
happens, but I'm running no wincons. I'll just defend myself with my free spells as long as possible
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>>93826411
Odyssey has some killer ones
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>>93826445
Yeah, they are pretty cool. However, the island doesn't look like an island. Rather like a river bank. I originally had Lorwyn basics in a deck, but had to remove them because my autism wouldn't allow them to be in a deck with lots of deep sea creatures.
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>>93826445
Lorwyn's lands are awesome
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>>93826463
Absolutely. This "cult gathering" swamp is one of my favorites.
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>>93826411
not for everyone but I'm partial to Mirrodin, especially the islands. Was the first type of magic I was introduced to and it put such a mark on how I viewed the world of mtg before I learned about lore
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>>93826468
>swamps aren't even close to black
Holy fuck I hate it
I don't remember lorwyn art being this awful, most of the monsters were just fine
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>>93826490
for that you have to go to shadowmoor
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>>93826463
>>93826475
Men of culture
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>>93826487
This
Mirrodin was one of my first sets and its visual style is so distinct and gorgeous that I still compare everything in magic to what that was like
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How is your 32 deck challenge coming along?
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Sometimes I think about how I might have had a chance with Thalia, if I had just let myself grow close to her, perhaps she would have loved me. Perhaps that's all it would take. I didn't need to buy chainmail or work out or anything like that. And i have a girlfriend anyway. I hate the fact that I still have feelings for Thalia and I hate the fact that it's because she has a better face / body than my girlfriend, but I love my girlfriend and I try to be good to her, she says I make her happy and she makes me happy too but some part of me knows that Thalia would make me happier, even though I don't even have anything in common with Thalia, and now all my friends hate me because all this guilt and anger made me angry at them and they didn't want to hang out with me anymore because I became a toxic incel piece of shit, all I do is lash out at the people close to me because I hate my life, and the few good things in it, I ruin them by mentally cheating on my girlfriend with Thalia, emotionally cheating on her, which is fucked up because she is the ONLY woman to ever give me romantic love, she is the only woman who has ever or will ever love me. I wish I could fukcing delete Thalia from my mind and NEVER think about her again. I HATE HATE HATE THAT I STILL THINK ABOUT HER. But I can't help it. I can't help thinking about how she is with another man I consider to be lower value than me, who i feel like I am better than, but he is obviously better than me since he won Thalia's heart and I could not. I don't like to think about her as a prize to be won but that is how I feel. I wanted her so badly. I would have killed for her. I would have died for her. The passion I felt for her, I would have married her WITHOUT hesitation.
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just a knock-off eldrazi
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>>93826591

Finished it a while ago, but I'm not happy with my gruul and orzhov picks so they're first on the chopping list
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>>93826678
What did you build for those combos?
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>Mindflaying Spirit
>UUU
>Legendary Enchantment Creature - Nightmare
>Mindflaying Spirit can't be blocked.
>If a source you control would deal damage to an opponent, prevent that damage and each opponent mills that many cards.
>10/1
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>>93826710
Meh
>>93826358
Not terrible in a juri deck
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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Fifty (50) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>93826094
Would keep when the commander gets more value from lands than other cards
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>>93826710
>Mono blue retrain of one of my favorite old piece of shit legends
Nice
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>>93826591
Finished a while ago and have won a game with all of them except for the Atraxa colors. I refuse to play Atraxa so I'm doing Sidar Kondo+Silas.
I might make them an Aluren styled combo deck.
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>>93826796
Play the new Atraxa instead of the old one. It's a bit more fun. I also hate Atraxa colors
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>>93826487
I like how all the Mirrodin lands, including the New Phyrexia ones, form panoramas that show the plane being corrupted by the Phyrexians and growing more decayed. Except black since the Mephidross was always a shithole and nothing really changed when the Phyrexians took over.
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Oh my gosh is that a heckin shining reference???
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>>93826806
Nah. I tried her in three ways (Blink Value, Keywords Matter, Spy Kit). People really dont like the value she brings and tends to get hated off. Plus I already have a "high cmc to turbo ramp into" commander I like better Maelstrom Wanderer, thats why I ditched her.
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>>93826843
WOW remember the SHINING from the 80's????? Hecking BAsed!
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>>93826843
At least French is easy to read
Choose one:
Exile an artifact
Exile an enchantment
Manifest dread
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>>93826710
>Creature : Type and Type and Type
do the fr*nch really?
looks like utter shit
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>>93826411
I've always been really fond of this forest.
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>>93826870
Human clown berserker

Haste
Whenever it attacks get a 1/1 gremlin
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>>93826870
Technically it is smarter than what the americans do as
> :
is shorter than
> —
As if they went with the english method, the font for it typing would be smaller.
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>>93826870
>Human and clown and berserker
French are autistic but I kinda like it
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>>93826870
"Bloodslicer horde leader"
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>>93826870
It's upsetting me that most of the clowns don't work with the clown legend mechanically but I'm also happy that this isn't a tribal set
So I'm torn
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>>93826591
Why would I need 32 different decks?
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>>93826901
correct, but they only do this to have the remaining space occupied with useless and autistic filler
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>>93827000
for the epic challenge :^)
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>>93826125
Nta
I was thinking of building animar as proliferate/storm. I'm not super familiar with him, does he have a reputation as kos or pubstomping?
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>>93826591
I have over 32 decks but I don't force myself into specific colors for an arbitrary reason, I just build what looks fun
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>>93826411
Bloomburrow
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>>93827033
He's had a reputation for pub stomping since his release
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Genuine audible "what the fuck?" out of me bros, I'm shitting and puking and crying
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>>93827033
ita
he is an old boogeyman and id say he will hold up very well with todays powercreep. its the protection from the biggest removal colors that give him the edge, he can also outgrow fighting and burn based from Gruul pretty easy.
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>>93827064
Is that the guy from the lonely island
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>>93827064
makes me moist, man
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>>93827064
Like they're in a horror movie! HECKIN BASED SISTERS
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>>93827076
It's me actually
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>>93827093
You're kinda handsome ;)
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>>93827103
a-anon you can't post stuff like that on a Christian imageboard...
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>>93827064
Damn a white guy and an Ozolith at home in 1, not bad at all.
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I got the cards I own (plus 2 lands I need) down to 100. But I was able to buy some other cards I want more, so I need 4 more cuts for them.
Nonlands in the sideboard are what I bought (consideringboard is just other cards I want that I can't get ahold of within budget right now).
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/U6UvgjSPvk29o5Q4UkzjWQ

>>93826094
>TQ
Depends on the deck, but yes. My vilis deck basically needs exactly that.
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>>93826358
* doesn't
I don't know. Edit artist need to get on that. Big ass H-cups hanging a bit.
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>>93826411
Full artunstable lands, and it's not even close. They are beautiful but also perfectly clear what land type they are.
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>>93826591
I need a WR deck to complete my guilds, and WUR, WUG, UBG, and URG to complete my shards.
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>>93827204
People sleep on boros and I love it
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>>93827056
>>93827073
Ah I see. Some counters and an ancestral statue with some version of impact tremors is gg
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How many token doublers do people run these days? Whjen I last played there was just Parallel Lives and Doubling Season but now there are many of them and I am not sure how much redundancy one would need for that effect.
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>>93827186
>I tap my Island for one blue mana...
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>>93827204
I'm a Boros enjoyer. Do you want the usual suspects or something a little off the beaten path?
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>>93827247
Nta but give me some weird recommendations
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>>93826870
That's haste right?
This will be pretty annoying in limited if so
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>>93826591
Gave up, as I several times felt obligated to build decks that I didn't really enjoy (Bant, Rakdos, most 4c combinations come to mind). I have more than 32 now but I have multiples for color combinations I enjoy (Esper, Jund, Mardu, Dimir).
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>>93827186
>plains
>taps to add one yellow
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>>93827212
I've brewed many decks, but they all have issues. Underpowered:
Tiana (death auras)
Plargg/augusta (exert and inspired)
Nelly borca
Ertha jo
Koll the forgemaster (ball lightning)
quintorious (sunforger)
Vikya
Zirda

Do the same thing as my other decks:
Eivor (too similar to Awaken the blood avatar)
Duke Ulter (too similar to Emiel)
Dheru and Hazoret (Already gave a legends tribal deck)

Too opressive:
Rem Karolus
Taii wakeen

Boring:
Adriana
Aurelia, the law above
Tori d'avenant
Winota
Gut+inspiring leader
Velomachus

Bruse Tarl, roving rancher is the only one I've brewed that I think would be fun and good, but a guy in my playgroup said he's building him already, so that's pretty much off the table.
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>>93827247
Definitely off the beaten path.
See >>93827322
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Thoughts?
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>>93827322
Become a clown
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>>93826094
>TQ
Always, surely I'll draw some spells before it's time to cast my 6 CMC commander.
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>>93827241
Honestly. These are so close, but that swamp really needs purple color correction.
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>>93827335
That's in the boring camp
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>>93827231
There's now also anointed procession, mondrak, and ojer tak which is a tripler.
As well as other cards that give an additional token of something else whenever making a token
I have anointed, parallel, and season in a goshintai pile cause I want shrines that say 'do x for each shrine' to be more impactful
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>>93827335
That would pretty much just play the same as Duke Ulter and Emiel, sadly.
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>>93827284
Yeah I don't understand this retarded challenge that fixes you on each of every color combination. Focus on the commanders you would enjoy, not the colours.
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>>93827335
>And for my next trick...I make.....ANOTHER DOCKSIDE EXTORTIONIST OOOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>93827342
No, that's in the too similar camp, especially aince I also have a lagomos deck.
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>>93827342
Wtf
Its ok but I guess im the only one that likes this style of commander
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>>93826358
She cute.
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>>93827362
>What if we made... le kiki jiki with white!
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>>93827354
It's about giving you focus. If I just built every commander I liked the look of, I'd have like 100 decks. If I tell myself I can't build decks of the same color until I complete the challenge, then that gives me focus.
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>>93827274
Hofri Ghostforge is a aristocrat / blink take for Boros. You can double up any ETB or death trigger by sacrificing things, and you can do some cool loops with cards like Mistmoon Griffin because Hofri will return any copies creature to your graveyard afterward. You also get to use Goblin Bombardment as one of your infinite sacrifice outlets, which is usually off limits from the typical Orzhov Aristocrats.

Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero is a favorite of mine. You can run a ton of the egg artifacts and use Faith's Reward or Second Sunrise to do KCI style combos, but you also get to run board wipes and play a control angle on the game because Gerrard will always bring your board back from a wipe.
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>>93827368
It's an archetype now
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I beg you to keep crying that a set that was always said to be a set of horror tropes has references to horror movies and media. It's absolutely buttfucking retarded that MTG is an infinite multiplaner existence yet you piss and cry at anything that looks remotely modern.
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>>93827373
If gerrard was an LTB trigger instead of a death trigger, I would absolutely play him, but as is it's too hard to be consistant-- unless I'm doing something wrong.

I'll have to try to brew hofri again. I thought he was uber popular for some reason, so I didn't bother.
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>>93827064
Kek looks like Mengu.
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>>93827386
No.
I hate that is has an infinite multiplanar existance, and will continue to complain about it including modern/futuristic settings because I dislike them.
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>>93827331
Great in tinyboys decks
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I wanna build a whiskervale forerunner value engine deck. Kinda wanna keep it in R/W with mabel and the other valiant creatures and tons of ways to trigger them. Issue i have is, is there any good way to get whiskervale forerunner out of the deck somehow besides gamble?
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>>93827386
>>93827431
>Infinite planes
The Marvel Plane, the Final Fantasy Plane, the Jurassic Park Plane, such wondrous sights we'll
>*buuuuuuurp*
see Morty, the multiverse is truly ours to discover...
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>>93827418
Gerrard being a delayed effect makes him significantly stronger.

>Sacrifice tons of things
>Sacrifice Gerrard
>Gerrard trigger on the stack
>Do anything that pulls Gerrard out of the graveyard
>Nim Deathmantle or Loyal Retainers is the easiest way
>Resolve Gerrard trigger, returning everything

You can also do it with token copies of Gerrard that are produced by effects like Molten Echoes or Flameshadow Conjuring. Heat Shimmer and Twinflame function as a one off of the effect as well.
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New horror set feels weird. Like we already have Innistrad which just does most of it way better and it fits into the theme of everything also.
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>>93826409
Damn so almost worth a build around. I can go like reprocess into faiths reward into pitiless carnage etc etc and kill some guy on the spot? Sounds fun.
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>>93827457
just...if they had just not included the stupid ghostbuster equipment
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>>93827376
That's what makes it boring
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>>93827479
Then how would they fight ghosts?
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>>93827064
This might actually go in my Bart lurrus deck
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>>93827492
Why not bring the ghost assassin to the ghost plane?
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>>93827241
>huge swamp symbol
>huge swamp text
>very black blues and black everywhere
Durrrrrr is it a swamp?! Believe it or not you being a retard doesn't make it bad design
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>>93827492
would only matter if they had brought back shadow
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>>93827515
You know why
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>>93827522
Sleeves + lights make it look like a coastal sunset, especially looking at it from across the table, it's a really shit design for a swamp
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>>93827515
Too busy schlicking Teysa's coochie
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>>93827484
Why is everything so boring?
>Inb4 it's not
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>>93827620
what's the commander? Etali?
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>>93827231
i run one, sometimes two maybe. its nice to have but inherently win more, so i don't use them too much
>>93827347
i think Ojer sucks because of the win more aspect.
the ones that give an extra one are pretty nice though, they often have going on more and provide more synergy than simply and only doubling
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I enchant your waifu commander with enslave, have sex with her, and end my turn
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>>93827231
Zero
They're win more cards
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>>93827652
I stab your waifu
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>>93827638
The card at the top
Rorix
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>>93827678
Holy clavicle erotic
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>>93826358
Let me make sure I understand this right. If I don't sacrifice anything before my end step she won't trigger at all, but if I do then I can stack the triggers so Ziatora resolves first and that sacrifice will be added to Skinripper's count, correct? And I can also sac treasures and whatnot in response to her trigger to make number go up because it's determined when it resolves.
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>>93827455
>Trying to explain combos and holding priority
Nobody here is smart enough to do anything besides playing value engines and nobody is creative enough to do anything besides look at the top played commanders and then pick a different one just to be a contrarian.
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>>93827687
Being retarded as a joke is still being retarded
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>>93827694
I wish they would get rid of the intervening if
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>>93827709
Why would you make such an overwhelmingly negative and unproductive post. Go outside
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>>93827455
Vs
>sac your things
>blink him
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>>93827583
Everything isn't mono g honey
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>>93827710
I enjoy playing stinky shitpiles
Sue me
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>>93827479
Or anything modern, really. The chainsaw spoilered some months ago decided the set for me.
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>>93827522
It's blue. They could have made it purple, but they made it blue.
When I saw it in the preview I immediately thought it was an island.
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>>93827740
I play Spirit of the Night, sometimes subpar commanders are fun
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>>93827652
>>93827678
I enjoy the ongoing damage being analagous to emotional damage.
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>>93827762
List?
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>>93827740
>stinky shitpiles
They you should have picked the brick shithouse art.
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>>93827709
>tfw all my decks are value staple piles so i can use any commander in the color identity and they'll perform identically
feels good
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>>93827755
It is visibly blue black. And it ver7 visibly says SWAMP and very visibly has a swamp symbol. You are retarded, nothing will change that
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>>93827803
So bland compared to his og art
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This is actually not a bad cantrip creature
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>>93827908
Yes it is
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>>93827860
>ver7 visibly
>You are retarded
At least you still have sudoku colorblindanon
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I have all of the onslaught pit-fighters built
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>>93827064
Dwight from DBD.

>ozolith variation

ill take it.
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He's literally me
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>>93828013
first mono-w surveil. Only took 6 years, can't let white have too much fun.
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>>93827522
K
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>>93827241
>I tap my Island for one blue mana...
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>>93827386
Dude the bitching about this set is pretty damn tame, your just pulling stuff outta the air for what reason?
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>>93828013
I hate that surveil is now a keyword for multiple planes. Like its a dimir mechanic. Why does dakkon blackblade for example surveil.
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>>93828013
Uh oh white is breaking the color pie again.
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>>93828013
>Fear of surveillance
>Read the card
>Surveil
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>>93828078
>I tap m7 island for one blue mana
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>>93827386
Can't have a revolver in the wild west but we can televisions and chainsaws in le horrorland. Really makes you think.
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>>93828097
>tfw you are a millennial and your double entendre are just single entendre references
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>>93828100
Considering its seattle guns might aswell be magical weapons. So no reason not to put them in.
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>>93826094
>Would you ever keep a hand that is all lands an mana rocks?
My commander cascades and my deck has a high average CMC so definitely.
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>>93828078
That's not a full art land.

>>93828062
Goddamn this might be the worst land ever printed.
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>>93828100
Magic already committed to notguns anyway, sticking a wand on an iron handle and firing off 12 blasts of of magic is just what any non-retarded Wizard will eventually come up with anyways, or they'll get killed by the wizard that did come up with it
>Regardless of the century, plane, or species, developing artificers never fail to invent the howitzer.
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>>93827322
"Go wide power matters with artifacts"
I haven't played it many times but it surprises me whenever I do. Jor Kadeen himself swinging in for lethal with Loxodon Warhammer and double strike on turn 6 is a sight to behold for such an underrated commander. And the rest of the time he's Overrun for your artifact tokens at bare minimum.
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>>93828117
Hehe silly cat meme
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>>93828168
I am not even sure what they are smoking with some notguns. Like this.
>Designed to have the drawback part of a crossbow, small holes in a circle at the mouth of the weapon like a gatling gun, one big hole as though for a cannon shot, the body of the weapon looks like a cylinder meant for many chambers. Ammunition is not bullets or arrows or crossbow bolts.
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>>93828272
>It evokes a gun but it's totally not a gun guise
I wish they would just drop this shit right now. It gets even sillier after 40k and fallout

I miss when no guns was the only virtue signaling in magic
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Gay Bolas
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>>93828272
>>93828286
It feels a weird line in the sand. Just make them flintlocks or similarly shitty, nobody's asking for a fucking Deagle. Or just make them magitech guns instead of weird vaguely gun-like magitech crossbows or whatever. That there's no actual revolver in OTJ is a shame.
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Asexual Palladia-Mors
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>>93828286
>It's pretty much entirely a gun firing a magical bullet but it's totally not a gun guise
We'll have to wait for the Dirty Harry secret lair to get a real Smith & Wesson revolver equipment
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>>93827785
it's mono black big mana with a devotion subtheme that usually wins using gary, could take a pic if you're really interested
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>>93828309
I paid more for the og art
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>>93828310
Not really, no
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>>93828304
>nobody's asking for a fucking Deagle
I am asking for an MRI secret lair, mostly because the MLR looks goofy enough to be a real magic card anyways
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>>93828351
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Seeing guns in magical settings is really gay and you're really gay for having the desire
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I hate a fierce desire to bend Bolas over and plow his asshole
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>>93828391
At this point this is the average post in this general
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>>93828286
>fallout
Yeah like here is a pair of cards with a revolver in the artwork. Small, practical, to the point, iconic in design where most folks can recognize on a glance, doesn't distract the viewer's eyes from the full art piece.
>>93828304
Not even flintlocks get in as anytime they could've been used in Ixalan, its instead a hand crossbow. Especially when the pirates really like their cannons. And we even had a story article where Breeches, a goblin pirate, had basically a flintlock, but because it sounded like a prototype and prone to failure, hes like "This sucks, I stick to big cannon".
>>93828309
Yeah it certainly seems to be going that direction.
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>>93828272
Unrelated but I really like the Plot mechanic
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>>93828466
It's.... Fine. I don't think it's great
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>>93828470
You think using ellipses in conversation is fine, so who gives a fuck what you think faggot?
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>>93828549
What makes you think anyone gives a damn about your opinion either.....
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>>93828563
>brainpower so minimal all you can squeak out is a “no u”
Thanks for reinforcing my point gaywad.
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>>93828386
Fantasy settings are often moronic as they want to pick and choose certain aspects from the Classical to the Medieval to even the Modern eras such as the Victorian and the Industrial Revolution.

And the secret is magic has always had this problem. Its only become more evident as they indulge in later eras like the roaring 20s (1920 to 1929) and the decade of decadence aka the 1980s. Where the stereotypical "fantasy" aspect has been thoroughly milked out and they move to later eras. After all, they're going for a wackydeath races not too long in the future where it will have all sorts of vehicles and cars that will be out of place in most "fantasy" settings.
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>>93828466
>I really like foretell/suspend but hilariously overpowered
great, unfortunately it's killed standard.
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>>93827492
You don't fucking fight a ghost in a horror story, you run from it, barely surviving, or at best finding an obscure ritual to seal the damn thing away for long enough for you to haul ass outside of its hunting grounds.
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Blex bros were we at?
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>>93828584
guns are the most boring stupid weapon to ever exist, the reason why fantasy is popular is because swords and magic are just cooler.
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>>93828599
Yeah and this is coming out on Feb 7th, the death race mtg set that is multiplanar. Which is just 5 months away.
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>>93828615
looks based, remember star wars, the sci fi series with space magic and swords is the most popular "sci fi" to exist
melee combat is more exciting than guns. Even Dunc knew this
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>>93828625
>looks based
So wheres your argument about sword or sorcery when you got modern looking cars? Oh wait you have none.
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>>93827803
Who in their right mind names their offspring "Cunt"?
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>>93828576
>Get challenged on your view
>Immediately start swearing and calling names
Lol...........You had no point to begin with
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>>93828643
I never argued against "modern" I just pointed out guns are a boring weapon, I highly encourage wotc to continue doing more modern aesthetics but without guns because again. They are boring as fuck. Sorcery in a more technological setting on the other hand, is fantastic
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>>93828591
What's overpowered about it? Doesn't seem good in edh
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>>93828664
it's not as good in edh, but it's completely broken in 60 card formats like standard, that stupid red bird with plot has single handedly made izzet burn a turn 2-3 kill deck
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Is Emry mainly just a combo commander?
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>>93828681
Yes
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>>93828657
Sorcery is so bland nowadays. Oh look some lightning coming out of fingertips or a ball of fire being thrown. Its the fantasy equivalent of a watching magician pull a rabbit of hat.
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>>93828700
It wasn't bland when mtg first happened but it's pretty bland now because it's fucking everywhere
Doesn't make guns any less bland desu though
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>>93826591
Decided to build 17 mono white decks instead
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>>93828727
Based if true.
Which ones?
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>>93828643
Guns are gay super cool fast cars aren't? They are two entirely different things. Guns, especially in an "advanced" setting, ruin tension and are boring. Literally just consider drone warfare and realize we are just now getting into incredibly powerful weaponry. That's BORING. Hitting eachother with maces and swords and brawling is cool and creates tension. This doesn't apply to locomotion. Going fast is cool, looking cool is cool, going fast while looking cool is hella cool
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>>93828615
This is either going to be really good or really bad
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Post cards u like
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>>93828406
No, Breeches had a gun and liked the gun, but it was more of a hand-cannon than anything.
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Post IRL decks!
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>>93828777
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>>93826786
They also did it to Virtus the Veiled
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>>93828737
>car not gun
You want modern thing you also have other modern things. Why draw in line a sand like the liar that is rosewater? Oh if its all rule of cool, then it shouldn't matter if normal guns exist.
>but gun blandboring
Then why have a wild west set in-universe? Oh wait because the aesthetics "look cool". While also dropping the ball so hard that it makes the rest of mtg look put together by duct tape and spit for its worldbuilding. And it only gets worse with Kamigawa Neon Dynasty, Murder at Karlov Manor, "tennis" set, Duskmourn, and whatever other new set they release.
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>>93828777
one of the first "bombs" I got, with a lot of ramp in kitchen table-low removal magic this became a problem
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>>93828652
>Ellipses are stupid and nonsensical is my point
>after getting challenged you still have no substance
I don’t know why I expected more from (you)
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>>93826094
I want to make a Mr Foxglove deck to enable a timmy playstyle. What are some fun timmy creatures that aren't popular like craterhoof or etali?

I want to cheat (foxglove to put creatures on the field), but only to maximize my timmy ability. I just want to turn big guys sideways and enjoy life
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>>93828924
Grozoth to tutor another big boi
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>>93828737
The irony is that Urza basically won the brothers war by dropping bombs from Ornithopters, aka drone warfare
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>>93828924
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>>93828897
Holy shit just take the L retard
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Are there ANY izzet characters that are heterosexual?
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>>93828977
>>93828987
2 great options right off the bat. Thanks anons!
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>>93828996
>Immediately think of 3 gay characters
>Now can't think about anyone else
Fuck you anon and your jewish mind tricks
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>>93828799
Nice dubs
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>>93828924
Can I interest you in bad moat?
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>>93828996
Izzet is fundamentally a gay color
>Blue means they realize associating with women will only cause problems and should be avoided at all costs
>Red means they're an impulsive coomer
Therefore all izzet characters are gay.
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>>93828799
The last of my cards finally arrived to finish 'er off
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>>93829012
Oh yeah? Well then name three gay magic characters that aren't Jackie Chan.
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>>93828700
>gunfag calling anything else bland
magic can be anything so it's never bland
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>>93829045
Ral
Jackie Chan- FUCK
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>>93828996
>>93829012
>>93829032
>Selesnya players trying THIS HARD to rehabilitate their image
There is no going back
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>>93829055
>wrong karametra printing
POSER!
The izzet are really trying their hardest but we will prevail
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>>93829047
It can be. But you're sticking your head in the sand if you don't notice the fact that the magic in magic has become increasingly mundane and dull.
I mean, you call guns boring and bland, well what about the MULTIPLE sets we've had where they've just used magic as a way to have guns without actually having any firearms?
And it's not like you can't have firearms in a fantasy setting. A lot of early fantasy works had guns. Both warhammer fantasy and AoS have guns, and the latter is often criticised for being TOO fantastic. Warcraft also had guns tanks and helicopters even back when it was good. Hell, even D&D can't escape from having had guns in it, since Myrlund, of myrlund's spoon fame, was literally just a fucking cowboy, complete with six shooters.
Face it, at this point, the lack of firearms in magic isn't for any lofty creative reason, but solely for political ones, and pretending that it isn't is just foolish.
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>>93829072
I'm so sorry anon, maybe you should try playing gruul instead?
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This is why JUND is the chaddest color combo
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>>93829006
>>93829029
I like these options too. I'm going to go brew now but please post anymore you think of. Thanks again anons.
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>>93829055
>>93829072
>>93829124

Where is the Selesnya romanian booba poster from last thread to redeem you?
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>>93829103
>well what about the MULTIPLE sets we've had where they've just used magic as a way to have guns without actually having any firearms?
yes magitech is in fact cooler than normal guns, that's why kaladesh was so cool. It's not bland, you just have really bad taste and you're upset that fantasy products sell better than other genres because you can't accept that your opinion is just unpopular
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>>93829124
it's weird how selesnya is associated with sissies but the one person I know who actually wears a chastity cage while playing magic is a 5c eldrazi player
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>>93829152
... So we're gonna just ignore the decade plus where the genre was DEFINED by WoW, which famously has guns?
Or the years where WHFB was actually popular and, surprise, had guns?
And we're also going to ignore the recent style shift in magic where the "Magitech" is just "Take a real world object and glue some magical looking doohickeys on it and call it a day"
And again, there's nothing wrong with avoiding modern technology as a stylistic choice, but wizards clearly isn't doing it as a stylistic choice. In fact, Kaladesh is when they STOPPED doing it and started becoming increasingly lazy about their magitech bullshit.
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Where did this meme even come from? Selesnya is unironically one of the better color combos in the game
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>>93827694
Yes that all sounds about right.
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>>93829012
>Can't stop thinking about dudes
Anon, I...
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>>93828615
That is also moronic. That they are doing one stupid thing isn’t reason to want them to do another.
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>>93829142
VALUE
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>>93827457
It's just an excuse to use all the other horror things that wouldn't fit in the settings of Innistrad. Like VHS tapes or chainsaws. Not sure we really needed those in a plane but I at least appreciate they separated the two.
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>>93829194
really, you think wow is famous for its guns?
I can't tell if you're baiting or straight delusional. Either way this conversation is pointless because the popularity of fantasy in all media speaks for itself. You're simply an aberration, guns are boring
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>>93829220
Reading comprehension. It's not famous for its guns or having them, but the fact that it has firearms is something notable and extremely hard to miss about the setting.
Though I will agree that this conversation is pointless, seeing as you can't even seem to accept the simple fact that a fantasy setting can have firearms in it and still be considered fantasy, and that it's not even particularly out of place for such things to be.
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>>93828988
Good job dropping the ellipses faggot lmao
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>>93829196
>inspired by sissy porn porn videos
>lesbian dryad guild leaders who don't like cock and instead fuck each other (trostani)
>so it's a whole "cuckold for women" femboy style deal
None of them could ever handle a selesnya colored man like arahbo
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>>93829196
If I had a nickel for every time a Selesnya player posted their chastity cage, I'd have three nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened three times.
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>>93828777
Always thought this guy was cool. Was one of the first big purchases I made when trying to improve an early deck. Always wanted to get more use out of him.
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Gay thread
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>>93829151
he got banned for that stunt
give him a few days
until then the izzet counter agents run free
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>>93829372
>Izzet and Selesnya players fighting over the last unsucked dick
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>>93829196
I always thought selesnya was more like nazis personally
>tree hugger
>nationalist
>socialist
really gets the ol noggin joggin
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Who's got mono white decks?
Please post lists
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>The one hetero selesnya poster gets instantly banned
>Gay Bolas porn went to 404
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>>93829388
There was an old image here about how abzan is the nat soc colors
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I have extremely bad sleep apnea
my cpap machine broke the other week and I havent had meaningful sleep in days
my brain feels like its crawling
commander for this feel?
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>>93829432
How old are you and how much do you weigh? What is the cause of your sleep apnea? Have you tried keto?
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>>93829257
I feel like WoW having guns is just sort of a "thing that is there" about the setting. No super-notable guns exist, a handful of notable characters use guns, etc. It's just a 'thing' about the setting, not a BIG thing.
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What's that moni green creature that is like an ox looking creature overgrown with plants?

Has an effect like "When a creature dies, return it to the battlefield."

Might be an enchantment now that I think of it.
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>>93829436
early 30s
BMI is 26, sleep apnea was way worse before I lost 100lbs.
Keto is a meme, believe me I tried for fucking 10 years. The only real diet worth a shit is whole foods, especially cutting high fructose corn syrup and processed oils.
Mancander for this feel?
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>>93829159
same all the sluts I know play some sort of 4/5c timmy deck
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>>93828777
It's just one of those cards that used to be super good but now feels super old but still kind a playable in selesyna decks that ramp like crazy
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>>93829460
Ah that was it!! Thank you
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>>93826178
That set was a scam so absolutely
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>>93826487
I agree with Mirrodin but you got the wrong block.
OG Mirrodin was truly unique. The lands just feel wrong which fits the plane so well.
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>>93829500
I was only 4 years old when OG mirrodin came out so my perspective is on the later mirrodin blocks
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The average player has no idea when they've lost the game because they never play with wincons.
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>>93826487
Wait, I don't remember making this post about my own life experience. Though I must've left out that Rise of the eldrazi also helped.
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>>93829523
That's a good point. Though there's also some people who will just try to tough shit out if they have a chance of victory even if from an objective perspective they just lost the game
Like you. You just lost The Game.
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>>93829531
only concede when you have no possible chance, if you can topdeck it or last a couple more turns waiting for the answer you know is in your deck, go for it. If you have no way to win except from your enemy misplaying then yeah concede
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>All those Selesnya Cages
nervous naya laughter
Big stompy dinos are masculine, right? I know gruul has some negative connotations associated with it, but Boros is b-based, and Red(white) pilled, right?
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>>93829540
Even sometimes it warrants trying to play it out and hope for a misplay if your opponent has been consistently misplaying.
But yeah don't bank on that.
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>>93829437
WoW has advanced technologies, but powerful magic and superhuman muscularity are common. It makes sense that guns would be invented in that setting, but not commonly used because there are better options. In Magic, there's advanced technology but 99% of people have no magic and normal muscularity. It makes sense for guns to have been developed, but they haven't been. There are clunky gunlike weapons, but those have proven to be less effective than guns in WotC's own stories, so it doesn't make sense. They could make magic weapons like the noisy cricket or phasers, but they opted for huge, flashy, ineffective "Thunder Rifles".
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>>93829540
You have to do a cost benifit analysis. Is the boardstate winnable even if you get your answers? Does your opponent have an insurmountable resource advantage from asymetric conditions? What does your path to victory need in order to be accomplished? A lot of players just glaze over and pray for a top deck when a win has been presented and they should scoop. The flipside, if the combo is nondeterministic and there is a chance luck could fuck them, they're playing that shit out until they present a wincon.
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>>93829456
damn anon. are you me? Just went to the doctor and had bloodwork done to put be on weight loss meds.
Trying to avoid being put on cpap. At least the bloodwork came back great, not even pre-diabetic
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>>93829578
Don't fear the cpap, when the machine is working it's a game changer. The problem is that pressurized air is one of those things that is hard to maintain over time.
Like a boat sitting in water.
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>>93829593
I realize that, id just rather lose the 100 lbs i need.

I fucking hate being so goddamn short. Either way, cheers anon.
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>>93828777
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>>93829610
fun card, cool art
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>>93828248
Already have a few artifact decka, and just attacking with big guys sounds boring to me. I'd probably just play Adriana if that's something I'd have fun playing, but I won't. Thanks, though.
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Post cards that filter bad players. I'll start with an easy one.
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>>93829708
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>>93829708
where's that one guy lmao
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What commander should I make next? I have
>Vera'zol Kickers - Probably my best deck. Can win in a bunch of different ways. Has a lot of my money cards in it since they just fit the deck well. Very consistent in that it actually gets to do something every game.

>Thromok Fling - Feed a bunch of shitty tokens to the worm and whip him at people's faces. Pretty fun when it works but kinda inconsistent. Thromok doesn't touch the table until it's guaranteed victory.

>Blim's Comedy Act - It's your typical Blim deck. Super fun to pilot and wins more often than you'd think.
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>>93829734
Blim 100%
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what enjoyment do people get out of playing non-cdh commanders with 99s that are just cdh staples that don't meaningfully interact with the commander?
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>>93829742
No those are decks I already have anon. I'm looking for recs based on those.
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>>93829708
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Is Ygra pronounced:
>Yee-gra
>Ee-gra
>Eye-gra
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>>93829782
Yi-gra
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>>93829765
oooooh IC IC hmmm

Urtet Myr tribal
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>>93826094
>TQ
1 × Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
99 × Forest
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>>93829742
Average reading comprehension of a UB enjoyer lmao.
>>93829734
Do Niambi Esteemed Speaker ETB shenanigans.
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>>93829751
How does this filter bad players?
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>>93829708
I am now the archenemy
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>>93829782
yig-ruh
like saying wig but with a y
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I'm currently sitting at an impasse. I want to build the most jank of jank kind of decks. It is going to be a witchmaw deck where it's primary focus is foods. The big power houses are gonna be Bernard and Ygra with a lot of food production. You might think I'm retarded, but I also built a five color vehicle deck. So it's up to you to decide how dumb I am
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>>93829843
Basically I want tips on how to build it
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>>93829843
>I'm at an impasse because I have a deck that I want to build and have ideas on how it will work
I don't think that's what in impasse is.
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>>93829852
play this with knowledge pool
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>>93829843
I'm also at an impasse. I want to play selesnya flicker but Emiel is a lame and gay horse so I can't convince myself to build it.
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>>93829487
Why is it a scam?
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>>93829863
>not building a lame and gay horse
Anon, it could be so much worse
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>>93829849
Well, the choice of the commander(s) is what's filtering me currently. People have said Atraxa and some people are saying partners. I've what is possible but I don't know what I should choose
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>>93829877
when is the my little pony universes beyond anyway are they not going to reprint these?
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>>93829708
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>>93829734
is your blim one shotting people or grouphug? I had no luck connecting once with him no matter what and took it apart
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>>93829805
people hate milling so much even pic related gets hated on immediately
my friend's Sidisi is probably the worst deck I have ever seen and it gets shit on because it dared to mills some cards
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>>93829889
Rampant growth is very straight forward, I dont get it.
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>>93829708
Not because she's good, but because they don't actually understant how her ability works. One look at her edhrec page will tell you people don't understand how she works.
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>>93829896
Both? There's some minor group hug elements but the main plan is just giving people nasty shit. It also has a minor theme of giving stuff like nefarious lich and cards that exile the graveyard the same turn.

But I also run funny absolute garbage like Drooling Ogre so it's by no means optimized.
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>>93829920
It isn't ramp. It's fixing.
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>>93829920
>manafixes and gives a card to replace it
>doesn’t give an extra mana or land
The mouth breathers in this general.
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>>93829761
No clue.
Same with any deck that is just generically good with no synergy. I will actively cut out generically good carda from my deck to put in worse cards that synergise because it's more fun.
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>>93829947
>>93829951
Oh, you're saying people think it taps for extra mana? Fair enough.
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What mana value would Flash need to be relatively balanced?
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>>93829734
Verazol is based
Thromok is based

Your next endeavor is Noyan Dar. He has tons of synergy with indestructible lands, easily built on a budget, has enormously wide space to play whatever instants and sorceries you like. Every "nonland" board wipe feels brutal, especially anything that lets you spare Noyan himself (Consuming Tide is goated) or sparing him with a spell that pumps your team anyway
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>>93829805
No idea why people hate mill so much. Until it's going to lose you the game, it's just information on what you aren't going to draw next.
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>>93829708
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>>93829972
does ending the turn negate all cards on the stack? can i dodge boardwipes with this?
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>>93829863
Emiel is pretty fun in my experiance, but you end up wanting to sink all of your mana into flickering so you end up casting fewer and fewer spells as the game goes on, which feels wierd.

>>93829887
If you read that cards you know that most of them are clearly silver-border for good reason, and UB is all commander legal, so reprinting them as UB wouldn't really work. Maybe with new cards, but I'd imagine it wpuld likely have to coinside with a marketing campaign.
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>>93829961
Mana cost. Mana value refers to the mana cost converted to a number value, but it's possible the answer to your question involves more blue pips unaccounted for by mana value. That said I think Scout's Warning is Flash fixed properly, but if you want to keep the unintended functionality for etb and dies triggers in the same color I'd put it at 2UU.

>>93829966
>ocean man begins playing
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>>93829708
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>>93829957
It's more like that bellcurve meme
low iq its good cause you have a bad mana base and it says draw a card
medium iq its bad because its not ramp and its a bad cantrip
high iq its good because mana is tight and its a functional cantrip
I was shocked to see it in a lands combo canlander deck but I've been playing it in my 5c lands deck for years so I guess im not 100% insane
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>>93829999
If you're getting boardwiped on your turn yeah
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>>93830008
>ween is only known for ocean man
I guess things could be worse
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>>93829889
In Sythis it's pot of greed.
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>going on the train down town
>walk by these two cute mixed girls, one in a tube top and a jean skirt, the other in an unbuttoned coat and booty shorts
>take a peek at the clevage
>both girls see me doing it and check me out
>go on the train and sit down
>start looking at elesh norn on my phone
>smile at the girls when they walk by
>at first they're jazzed, then confused, then they burst out laughing
>have no idea what happened
>then it dawned on me
>realize I was looking at a picture of elesh norn in panties that was reflecting in my mirrored sunglasses
Well I sure fucked that one up.
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>>93829961
I'd say 6 since it's at instant speed and you have to pay for it next upkeep. Also because it's blue instead of green or red, so it's a color break and you have to pay more for that. 5 would probably be fine too, but it would be pretty strong then.
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>>93830008
I explicitly asked for mana value precisely because of the card not fitting the current color pie as noted by >>93830041
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>>93830020
>hey little boy, what you got there?
>"kind sir it's a mollusk I found."
>Did you find it in the sandy ground?
>Does it emulate the ocean sounds?
>"Yes I found it on the ground, emulating the ocean sounds."
>Bring forth the mollusk cast unto thee
>lets be forever let forever be free.
The Mollusk Sessions is one of my favorite albums ever.
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>>93830020
Push th little daisies and make em come up
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>>93830010
I need to find one of these for my landfall deck. I don't have enough basics to run basic land ramp.
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>>93830020
I never got into Ween, but I liked it when Devin Townsend covered one of their songs
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>>93829708
It's good except for when it's bad
>>93829751
>>93829803
I think it depends if you mean the card filters opponents when played or bad players are filtered for not running it
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>>93830120
At minimum it's veggies, it scales, and hits non basics. I've never had it be bad for me.
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>>93830036
That either didn't happen you you are highly schizophrenic.
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>>93830120
Open the way is a really great card if you run a ton of nonbasics. Otherwise it's sub-par.
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>>93829886
When you said you had a witchmaw deck, I figured you were just actually running witchmaw. If you don't care about synergy, witchmaw it pretty awesome looking, and does at least something in any deck.
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>>93829734
>Thromok Fling
Thromok is cool and I've been experimenting with something similar for a different deck. Mine posting your list?
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>>93828089
This is such an autistic complaint. Its a keyword now because it's a popular ability, and it saves space from having to write the full text of what it does every time. Do you also hate that prowess exists outside of tarkir?
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>>93829805
It's comical how hard this turns everyone at the table against you. It's definitely the kind of card you need to check the feel of the table to know when is best to throw down. Sometimes best to miss a turn or two of mill set up if it means everyone else takes a couple turns going at each other instead.
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>>93829805
Don't worry the Gitrog player got your back.
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>>93829805
Yes please
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>>93830200
I can type it up for you when I get home from work for sure.
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>>93829961
Just make quicken cost G and give your next creature flash. Trying to get cute with an elvish mystic effect isn't worth balancing.
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nyoom
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Opinion on full art lands?
Do you usually think they are better than the regular versions or does it depend on the artist?
What do you think of this one in particular?
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i just want a commander format that bans all tutors and turn 1 mana rock ramping wombo combo
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>>93830356
Nah. Edh is the only format where you can play that jazz.
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>>93829708
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>>93830342
I think the doll heads on the ceiling in the left elevates it
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>>93827386
A plane should be its own thing. If they take inspiration from a thing, that's fine, but it shouldn't just be that thing on a card. There's a difference between inspiration and parody, and this set is parody.
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>>93830342
I liked the extended art the first set it came out, questing beast looks incredible every other iteration just devalues it though and Im sticking with standard printings from here out
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>>93830390
I agree, if it weren't for the doll heads the full art would win 100%, but they make it a close call in my opinion.
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>>93830356
If those are issues with your playgroup I feel for ya, if you are complaining about them but not suffering from them then stfu
EDH is teaching people daily that mtg is a terrible game to play competitively
for the most part people want to actually play the game which means nothing needs to change
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>>93830356
Toxrill needed all the mana rocks available because he's going to run between the zones a lot.
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>>93829708
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>>93830342
Hate 'em. They were cool when they were a novelty; now that they're just the standard the majority are poorly done. Like look at the godforsaken bloomburrow lands.
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>>93830449
How do this work if I draw let's say three cards? Do I need to discard all three cards first or resolve the trigger individually for each one draw?
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>>93826499
I use a mix of champions and timespiral swamps so basically a variation of the X set
I was so happy when swamps stopped being purple or off-white or fluorescent green
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>>93830506
I believe it's individual triggers per card drawn.
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>>93830506
Each draw is replaced individually, in order. If chains is out, you have 5 cards in hand, and you cast Harmonize, you replace the first draw with a discard, then Chains makes you draw a card, the Chains draw is replaced by a discard, then Chains makes you draw again, and the draw is replaced with a discard until you have discarded all 5 of the cards in your hand, then the last discard for the first harmonize draw is itself replaced by Milling 1 card because your hand is empty. Then you move on to the second draw from Harmonize, which is replaced with Milling 1 card, and the third card from Harmonize, which is replaced by Milling 1 card. At this point, any triggers that were generated by Discarding or Milling get put on the stack.
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>>93830506
>>93830539
It's a replacement effect, not a trigger, so it replaces each of the draws.
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>>93830568
Consider taking classes in how to tie a noose.
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>>93830506
Here you go.

>>93830568
No.
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>>93830449
>>93830506
So if you played Harmonize and it makes you draw 3 (assuming no other effects are in play that affect draws) and you've already drawn your card for turn (since it's a sorcery, I'd fucking hope so)
assuming you have 4 cards in hand
>go to draw first card
>replaced with discard, then draw
>go to draw second card
>replaced with discard, then draw
>go to draw third card
>replaced with discard, then draw
I don't believe Chains repeatedly interacts with its own draw because that'd be monumentally stupid in my mind.
I don't claim to be an expert on a card I've literally never used, but that's how it reads to me and I am fully willing to be corrected.
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>>93830665
Chains doesn't interact with itself because replacement effects modify a single event a single time. Much like Teferi's Ageless Insight doesn't cause you to draw your library and deck out.
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>>93830506
Replacement effect, not trigger
Here's a flowchart
>go to draw a card-- is it the first card you drew this turn?
>>yes-- draw the card then mill
>>no-- discard a card-- did you discard a card this way?
>>>yes-- draw a card
>>>no-- mill a card
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>>93830623
>>93830660
>>93830665
Chains basically reads "If an opponent would draw a card except for the first card in their draw phase, they discard their hand and mill that many cards instead."
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>>93830692
>>93830690
>>93830660
I love that we all immediatly went to the flow chart method.
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>>93830689
Fair enough, I had sorta forgotten about that line of logic, thank you
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>>93830692
retarded and incorrect, it does not modify itself
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>>93830411
>There's a difference between inspiration and parody, and this set is parody.
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>>93830670
All of them are in the name
>yoretiller
He's tilling the ground, ripping up the earth, therefore no green
>witchmaw
He's eating the witch magic, and witch magic is red, so no red
>dunebrood
It's a desert therefore no water, so no blue
>inktreader
He's treading through the ink, therefore no black
>glinteye
I got nothing for this dude. Glints are wshining light, therefore white? I don't know, he's the other one I always forget.
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>>93830726
>he's experimenting with humonculuses and becomes one himself
Crazy the they made a Full Metal Alchemist reference back then.
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>>93830692
>>93830568
neither of you understand replacement effects at all
>>93830660
correct
>>93830665
correct
>>93830689
correct
>>93830690
retarded and wrong, it only replaces draws other than your first draw step draw so you don't mill for drawing 1
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>>93829803
It filters the bad players that think it's a bad card
Sounds like you got filtered
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>>93830767
>retarded and wrong
Yeah, I missed that the second "in this way" refered only to if the draw was replaced, and that it was specifically for the draw step. Fuck me, I'll go back in the corner with the other keyboard judges.
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>>93830242
Cool. Thanks anon.
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>>93830725
>>93830767
Has it changed at some point? If it's all one single replacement effect now, then it's not very good.
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>>93830790
It's very clearly a fine card, right alondside the other cards that do the same thing. It's just not particularly noteworthy.
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>>93830804
That depends, what do you think it does?
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>>93830804
Literally the only wording that has changed on the card is shortening the mill effect to mill, so no.
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>>93830829
Fuck me, nevermind. It's totally changed.
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Mephistopheles is truly the great filter
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>>93830835
Literally says the same thing here. Functionality was always the same, just worded differently.
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>>93830815
>>93830829
>>93830835
The last time I checked the ruling, it was three different replacement effects, which is why it destroyed your hand. I suppose it still shits on Brainstorm and changing card advantage to card neutrality IS a powerful effect, but I think it got nerfed at some point.
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>>93830865
Yeah, you're like 90% of the way there.
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Whats the best infect commander?
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>>93830891
Depends. Do you want to hit one guy really hard, combo kill am entire table, throw phyresis and graftes exoskeleton in a normal deck, or swing with a bunch of dudes and triumph of the hordes?
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>>93830891
Fynn
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>>93830891
Boring as it may be, probably still the OG Atraxa. Turns out that having a vigilant, flying lifelinker that also proliferates your infect every turn and gives you acess to four colors is pretty good
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>>93830891
Karumonix
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>>93830865
Literally never worked like that.
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There are two types of anons: those who believe more colours breeds versatility, and those who prioritize consistency and execution.
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>>93830942
Are either of them wrong?
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>getting drunk on the train
>talking to my bros about chains of mephistopheles
>going to fix my girlfriend's door knob and watch football at a bar with nachos
Hope you anons are having a great weekend so far. I can give deck advice for like 40 mins before I get to my stop.
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>>93830967
Depends. Do you want my personal opinion or do you want the objective answer? Objectively if you have the money for fixing and mulligan correctly, more colours is usually better.
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>>93830971
I'm having to skip my LGS's FNM this week cause I am too tired to be able to drive home after but otherwise weekend looking good
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>>93830985
Dont be a coward, drink two five hour energy drinks for 2.5 hours of psychosis and you'll be fine. What format is the fnm?
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>>93830995
getting 2.5 hours of energy out of TWO five hour energies is a pretty bad exchange rate
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>>93830984
>colours
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>>93830909
Is a Fynn deathtouch tribal deck even worth it if you're archenemy all the time?
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>>93831006
Yeah but you get 5 times the energy for that period so you're actually getting 2.5 extra hours.
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>>93831044
I see, I see
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What a cute little guy
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>>93831136
>no flavourtext
Sasuga. I do find him adoravle none the less
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>>93831052
>xavier renegade angel
Oh my fuck I love that show.
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>>93828799
>get insulted!
No fuck you lmfao
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>>93831009
yeah he spelt it correctly. Retard
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>>93830971
based and normie pilled
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>>93831239
>Having bad decks
ishiggydiggy
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>>93827386
It was a given this general would cry and whine about this set after spending two months demanding we suck furry cock because "hurrrr no nigz lmao kek"
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>>93827386
MTG should not have a multiverse. It should be one planet with a set of various nations and lands. Amonkhet should be one area, Kaladesh another etc. They're all already based off real locales on Earth. The lore and players have an issue with actual multiverse (infinite possibilities) so it would make way more sense to just be one planet. It would make for better stories and also explain why there are 1 googolplex planes yet they all must have the exact same technology and societal advancement.

A multiverse without infinite possibilities isn't a multiverse. It's just a gay planet.
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>>93831265
>courrectly
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>>93831360
This man has a mental breakdown when he see's tires spelt tyres
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>>93831304
But then how will our planeswalkers be super special snowflakes when the powerscaling is so fucked random magic students can teleport and stop time to do their homework?
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>>93830971
>been on leave from work for about a month now because wife and I had a baby
>cooking some dinner
>might play some arena or stellar blade while baby is napping
I haven't played paper Magic in weeks but I'm here mostly to keep up with spoilers and talk about deck building
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>>93828730
This took forever to get a picture of:
>Lin Sivvi, Task Force Combo
>Norika, Sagas
>Yoshimaru & Keleth, Devotion to White
>Jo Grant, Cycling and Vehicles
>Crovax, Life Swapping/Surviving at 0
>Autumn-Tail, messing with Auras
>Odric, Keywords
>Oketra, Creature Casting
>Soraya, Birds, Blinking & Banding
>Abdel Inspiring Leader, Templar Knights
>Patron of Kitsune, Lifegain Foxes
>Lita, Artifact Creatures
>Noble Lae'zel, Counters and Planeswalkers
>Darien, Soul sisters
>Mila, Enchantments and Planeswalkers
>Sephara, Annoying Fliers
>Balan, Cat with Swords
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>>93831444
Damn what a legend
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>>93831278
Your deck will get shit on for

1. being bad
2. being unoriginal
3. being original
4. being really good
5. using UB
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>>93831512
1. Deserved
2. Deserved
3. The reception of "cool what an original deck" beats "wow what a snowflake in any amount any way
4. If it's #3 at the same time, cool, if it's just efficient shit we've seen, then #2 applies
5. Deserved
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>>93831512
What absolute donkey shits on a deck for bwing original?
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>>93831512
You forgot the mandatory "boring" comment
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>>93828799
Where do you think you are? Remember: most anons have big brother energy.
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>>93831594
>What absolute donkey shits on a deck for bwing original?
This general
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>Spend X minutes coming up with Maze's End deck
>Take out every possible point of interaction
>Throw in tutors for one-card wincon
>"Damn why did people not respect my original deckbuilding genius of Scapeshift into Win Game?"
This format has rotted brains to the point they think the Commander taking a second card to win the game is original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Z7IuZQqQI
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>>93831761
Is that the one where the retard doesn't run red? How the fuck can you build a Gate deck and not put Crackling Perimeter in it?
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>>93831775
He used picrel so Maze's End would enter untapped out of Scapeshift. Literally just one-card wincon if commander is alive and a deck stuffed with tutors.
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>>93831775
By playing Omo, the best gate commander
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>>93831444
How do you feel about the direction WotC has taken white in in recent years?
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>>93831789
>Puts one-card wincon in his deck
>It wins when he plays it
>"Wow guys I just don't know if this archetype can ever be fun there is no conceivable way to make this more enjoyable"
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>>93831761
he has incredibly shit takes, like most mtgtubers.
anyone know any nice channels, maybe not so well known?
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>>93831874
They're all shit, but at least I can fantasize when OGH is on the screen.
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>>93831800
>No Crackling Perimeter
>No Gateway Angel
>No Hold the Gates
>Must have Omo in play to do anything
I'm not convinced. I run Esika, but I only cast it as the Bridge. It used to be Golos, but it got banned.
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>>93831761
>take archetype you enjoy
>include a combo as alternative wincon
>dont touch tutors
>you now have a combo deck you enjoy and is fun

WOWZERS!
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>>93831943
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>>93831943
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>>93831444
Damn anon thats fucking based
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>>93831912
I run the blood/bond combo in my erebos deck and do include tutors, but I think I've tutored for one half of it like, maybe twice ever. And I rarely ever bother trying to win with that combo.
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>>93831912
cont.
>pull off your combo turn 16 after massive stalemate
>your deck is now know as "that combo deck"
>get hated out each game after that, leaving you not enjoying your "fun" combo deck anymore
maybe i haven't thought that one through enough
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>>93831775
I have a dungeon deck that runs gate as a side thing, so I don't run this.
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>>93831474
>>93831952

I dont get it? Whats so special about that deck?
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>>93831885
Not hard to keep a 1/5 3 mana commander in play in a deck that easily has 20+ mana available. The cards you listed are fun meme flavor cards but do nothing to advance the only meangingful aspect of gates: Maze's End.
Being able to turn your lands into gates instead of having to run a fuck ton of garbage tap lands/hope you hit the 10 gates in your deck is much better.
She also has more than enough mana and acceleration to quickly scapeshift or reshape the earth and just win. I can only imagine how slow a 5 color gate deck is with like 15+ tap lands. Meanwhile omo is shitting out 15 mana on turn 4.
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>>93831761
I stopped watching this guy because of this video. He's huffing his own farts now



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