STDs edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>93926314>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolswarhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>Thread question:What's more important in choosing an army: playstyle or aesthetics?
>>93948056Aesthetics, obviously. Rules and editions change constantly, but your cool models will look sweet for as long as you take care of them.
>>93948056>>93948085FPBP
>>93948085>Rules and editions change constantlythat's a dumb thing to say, if I hate the moon in gsg I'm not going to gamble on it changing on some indefinite point in future and then watch it not change for the next decade.
>>93948056TQThey are both important. If you don't like the aesthetic you are hardly going to build and paint the entire army. If you don't like the playstyle you are going to end up with pretty models on your shelf.
>>93948056>TQRules are temporary, models are forever
finishing up my first AOS models
>>93948056>What's more important in choosing an army: playstyle or aesthetics?I think most armies aesthetics do a decent job of determining their playstyle.
>>93948264The bases look disgusting. Good job
>>93948056If you play the game fairly regularly then the playstyle is really important. Keep in mind that rules and playstyle is a different thing. Obviously the aesthetics is also important, but it can't be the only factor. To find a truly 'your' army you need to have both playstyle and aesthetics to fit your taste. And there might be no such army in the whole game. So you need to look for a different game and hope that it has a decent local community and not just 3 dudes that are playing it in a different city.
>>93948182>if you don't like the aesthetic you'll never do anything with the models>if you don't like the playstyle the worst thing that happens is your awesome models will spend most of their time doing what they'd do even if you play with them: sitting on your shelf looking cool>They are both important.I'm not sure how you can make a reasonable assessment like this and not realize that one of these things is vastly more important than the other.
>>93948329Most people want to actually use their models. Yes, if you don't really care about playing then of course you are going to care about aesthetic more. Grazie al cazzo.
>>93948139God I hope the moon gets changed this edition drastically. Make all the buffs meaningful too. And not some shite like +3 control. Or maybe just revamp the whole thing. Have the shine creep up the board, from your side, until it envelopes the whole board. And the buffs get stronger by appeasing the moon like casting or killing stuff.No idea for what the buffs would be but I'm spitballing here.What am I talking about it's james it's probably already in print that we're stuck with the random moon movement for another edition.Also have my current WIP since it's kinda related.
Aesthetics (why is this word being used like this so often?) is probably the most important. As GW usually has a set time before they update a mini. Originally it was about 10 years before they would update a mini, but that went out the window with AoS (Blacktalon was, what, four or five years?) but in general you're going to wait around 10 years before you got a chance for the model to be updated. By then you've probably had three new editions and rule changes.Playstyles will by and large stay the same, however, but you're still ultimately using the same models (outside of you buying totally-not-warhammer models and I'm against 3rd parties doing 1:1 models, if you got the skill, make something different but in keeping with GW stuff so I have an alternative, or do stuff GW won't do, like nudity on models that would reasonably have nudity, such as harpies or slaaneshi shit).So, 'aesthetics'.
>>93948517the control buff is mechanically strong it just favors weird tech builds like palooza spam and isn't interesting unless you want to play that kind of skew game.
Anyone gotten their new Stormvermin yet that could do a pic of them next to the previous plastic Stormvermin?
>>93948570The palooza should be unique, change my mind. Or some other mechanic that still allows them to be brought back but only to be taken once.
>>93948632Its a random argument, one of a hundred things that could improve the game. Unit sizes should be adjusted and reinforce removed, change my mind.
>>93948517The yellow is very nice, well done
SELLING FAST
>>93948753Two more hours trust the plan
>>93948056Both
>TQI bought into Seraphon purely because of last year's range refresh, not knowing anything about the game or how the army plays. Didn't do any research. So I guess aesthetics is my answer. After playing a couple spearheads I do like the playstyle as well.
>>93948056>Thread question:What's more important in choosing an army: playstyle or aesthetics?Rules are for fools except rules of cool. If you build something because of rules and aren't excited about their aesthetics, you'll find that when those rules change that you won't enjoy those models anymore. At least if you have an army built of lots of stuff you think is cool then when the rules change there's still something you enjoy about your models
>>93948056>STDsAny models who look like him?
>>93948936with some minor kitbashing
>>93948936Alternatively, basically any of the darkoath units.
>>93948936That's just Darkoath
>>93948936
Dead game
Are alternate versions of the Skull Box not being made because 40k has no cool familiars to put on models?
>>93951282Havent seen anyone put this on the table at my LGS yet
Gonna have a RTT tomorrow.How sweaty is this list? It's from one of the participants.1980/2000 pts-----Grand Alliance Order | Lumineth Realm-lords | Hurakan TempleDrops: 3Spell Lore - Lore of HyshManifestation Lore - Morbid Conjuration-----General’s RegimentSevireth, Lord of the Seventh Wind (350)• GeneralHurakan Windchargers (340)• Reinforced---Regiment 1Lyrior Uthralle, Warden of Ymetrica (240)Vanari Dawnriders (420)• Reinforced---Regiment 2Hurakan Windmage (150)• Masterful Tactician• Silver WandHurakan Windchargers (340)• ReinforcedYdrilan Riverblades (140)-----Faction TerrainShrine Luminor-----
Extra head on him
>>93951611Incredibly sweaty, confirm that they win the whole event later yeah?
>>93951745I don't like it
>>93951745Meh, I wish there were more customization options for the $30+ hero
>>93951838As a general rule characters don't get many optional bits and never really have. Most character kits maybe get an extra head or if they're very very lucky an optional arm
>>93951816ProbablyI'm just there to roll dice anyway
Do you guys think that using evocators as Anihilators and dracolithes as the new cavalery is going to be okey, once the army book drops?
>>93952072Sure. It's GW plastic, so there's no law that can stop you
>>93952091yeah, if I was a Tzar or a Tzars son I wouldn't worry, I am more interested in what the consensus is among other people, especialy those not playing stormcast. For example in 3ed I thought people would allow paladins to be played as Anihilators with two handed maces. But they didn't. Same way in 2ed where I had to buy staffs to have full units of long staff evocators and not the short staff+sword.
>>93952103In 3e palladin and anihilator were separate units. Evocator won't be an unit in 4e
>>93952103Those were units that exist as parts of the army being used as other units within the same army, I think it was dumb as fuck that whatever losers you were playing with took issue with that but it’s a pretty different story to using squatted models as modern units that have similar vibes
>>93952103You aren't going to know the consensus of your local community by asking on 4chan. These things are heavily community dependent.
>>93948917Is that a grot head slapped on a Bonesplitterz?
Had an Ogors vs Stormies.Ogors absolutely tear ass but start melting when they get hit back.My friend asked how can Stormcast exactly deal with Moshpit fights?
>>93952269Pose looks like a 40k thing, like he's supposed to hold a gun
>>93951745holy shit he's mikael jacsen returned
>>93952298>hehe
>>93951745>putting anime hair on a fucking skeleton
>>93952370GW has been realy liking their haired skulls
>>93952370>anime hair ghostly wind
>>93952389Is that what Nurgle told you?
Is the Krondspine any good
>>93948972Why do so many Darkoath have the HR skrillex haircut?
>>93951745>weeb hair on skellybro
>I HATE CHAOS
>VIIIIIINCEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MAgOcU4YnM
>>93953249It's a pop culture viking thing but I think GW are leaning more into the punk influences as a contrasted to ordered society
Does anyone else hate faction terrain pieces? Aside from maybe shit like gnawholes?
>>93953523I actually hate Gnawholes the most because they're so entwined in the army's rules. You can play, say, Idoneth without their aquarium decoration and not really suffer. If you're playing Skaven and have no Gnawholes, you're suffering a significant handicap and like half of your army rules do nothing.
>>93953515Isn't this super old?
>>93953554Could be worse. Could be sylvaneth.
>>93953523I like faction terrain, but I would greatly prefer if there was a tradeoff when you don't take them, because a number of factions have believable reasons for their faction terrain to be present on the field, but not all of them
>>93953593I'll argue again that it's worse because (for as long as I've played at least) Wyldwoods have always been an essential part of playing Sylvaneth, whereas Skaven players could easily get away with not using Gnawholes until this edition.
Scans next weekend?
>>93953667probably not
>>93953174Its okay
>>93953667>>93953743Surprised no one has done those bundled screencaps of the youtube previews
>>93948753I also noticed that Skaventide boxes sell worse. Why is that? Is it the economy?
>>93953667Neh
>>93953667What are Skaven cooking?
>>93953844Plastic bags to extract the chemicals
>>93953667I like Mark Holmes's art.
>>93953844I don't know because I don't have the battletome.
>>93953935Would look better if K. and T. were swapped.
I'd say I can't believe GW have the gall for some of these absurd prices on the new rat kits, but at this point I'm more surprised it's not more. We're gunna be at $50 for a basic foot hero by 2026. Sucked the wind right out of my sails. Guess I'll just keep hold of my old shit and see if I can kitbash some things together. The crown jewel though is they want $60 for effectively a copypasta of the index.
>>93953774Could be. Personally I think it’s because the Skaven range refresh came out to sterile. I hate to use the term but they really are soulless.
>>93953774My lgs sold out of them in july and only recently got a restock. The other local shop I don't go to only has 3 left in stock. They're selling pretty well at least here in my slice of central florida, but games workshops absurd bullshit prices aren't helping for damn sure.
>>93954312For a limited edition box this is probably an absolutely terrible situation for GW. When you have the useless 30 year old fantasy sculpt WoC box selling out but not a limited edition new sculpt box it’s dire.
>>93954480their financials are insanely good retard.
>>93954654Which doesn’t change what I said about the limited edition box belly flopping
>>93954723completely baseless assertion, fuck off back to your deadgaem general.
>>93954723Starter boxes have been flopping since forever. The last good one was Island of Blood and it never went sold out either
>>93954772You realize 40k limited edition boxes sell out the day of release right? Even the latest blood angels one, which was panned as terrible in terms of the new sculpts being a downgrade sold out. GW operates on selling out of limited editions fast, they are supposed to foster fomo but clearly didn’t. Also lmao at your asshurt. This is a good thing for age of sigmar you retard. Consumers rejecting the overpriced Skaven means they most likely won’t continue to gouge prices for other factions in new releases. You don’t want the box to sell out unless you’re holding GW shares or are a brainless paypig.
>>93954783Ugh don’t get me started on IoB. 150 euro for this, can you imagine that today. What is that in USD, like $100 per faction.
>>93954976As of today $167.56 burgerbuxEventually somethings gotta give on the global setting. Every country seems to be folding in on itself.
>>93955095Yeah holy shit $83 a faction. This would cost twice as much at least today with GW’s pricing. I know it’s a luxury hobby that’s niche and has whales, but what’s the endgame? Doctors and financial analysts will form the customer base of GW and no one else?
>>93948056>What's more important in choosing an army: playstyle or aestheticsI can't imagine myself playing with an ugly army, that would be depressing. So aesthetics first.
>>93953774I think is part of the reason,AoS isn't the main game for most people so when money is tigth most people will prioritize their main game locally most AoS players are main 40k players who wanted to test something new also unlike marines for 40k where a lot of people have a marine army and can justify buying the box for the marine part and selling the other have, the same isn't true for stormcast.
>>93955576you know you can check the website for that shop in 2 seconds and see they sold them all despite charging $265 for it, idiot.
>>93954959the price of it is already starting to rise on ebay dumbshit, it will be gone by the end of the year.
>>93955686Still Selling Fast! In Canada
>>93955686Oops you also lied about USA. Still Selling Fast! In the USA.
>>93955686Still Selling Fast! In Australia.
>>93955686Most of my local shop still have 5 or 6 boxes and only one shop manage to get enough people to run a tournament.Also selling fast in Spain
>>93955686Still Selling Fast! At Wayland Games.
>>93955686Still Selling Fast! In Rest of World. I rest my case. Skaventide is available absolutely everywhere in massive numbers. Even at retailers that discount 20-25%. Stop the cope, it’s ok that Skaventide didn’t sell out.
what an obsessed faggot, seethe bitch.
>>93955912>caring about trolls
>>93955912>obsessed Said the guy who lied about the sales of a product that has no effect whatsoever on his life. >>93955950Not a troll just calling anon out on his pathetic lies with proof
>>93955850>Skaventide is available absolutely everywhere in massive numbersAnd? You used to be able to find Leviathan boxes everywhere too for months afterwards; and you can still find it in Ebay. Idk why people like you obsess over something that every single GW system goes through as if its some kind of "gotcha!" or something.
>>93956079I literally ended my post with its ok that it didn’t sell out. I’m just calling anon out on pathetically lying to protect the honor of his corporatfu
>>93956091Cap. You started this by showing a picture of a bunch of boxes, implying that it didn't sell at all when that website only has 2 boxes remaining. Don't try to backtrack from the retardation by concern trolling now.
>>93956130I'm the one who posted the boxes not the other anon
>>93956162Oh, then good on you for calling that shit out
You know what's the most retarded part about all this? Speculating and caring about sales numbers in the first place. Why is anyone's enjoyment of their miniature wargaming hobby affected by how much did a new edition launch box sell? Why do you care? Why is this a discussion that occupies every thread? You can't know the answer and never will. And what about the implications of that answer? Is the game dying if Skaventide sold poorly? Are the people you play with right now just gonna quit? If so, why are you here ranting about it? What's the point? Move on.
Some fan(atic)s strongly self-identify with brands and companies. Some are trolls.All are retarded.
>>93956091It did sell out in plenty of places though. Alchemist workshop sold through over 500 copies in a month for example. So he's technically correct. And the other anon is still a petty little bitch for looking for places where it's in stock to spam the screenshots.There was no reason to start that selling fast bullshit again.We all know 40k sells better than AoS which sells better than TOW.
>>93956226Wharhammer fantasy was killed by poor sales some of those fantasy players wish the same would happend to AoS also there is a bunch of sencondary chuds who just hate the game becose some youtuber told them to do.
>>93956226It's all they have.
>>93955759>>93955785>>93955809>>93955817>>93955818>>93955850You could have placed all of these into one image as a collage and not clogged up the thread.
>>93956279It's just genuine retardation on the part of people. One 40k box sold out so quickly that basically no one managed to get ahold of it and GW had to actually do a second run of it, so now that's the MINIMUM of success for some of these near-human primates to consider "Acceptable"You know, despite the fact there have openly been changes to how the limited release boxes work since then and the new system is actually far better for a company than the box selling out instantaneously.
>>93956288Right. I forgot there's the crowd of grognards who can't get over the death of a game 10 years ago that was actually dying for years before that due to poor management and now it's somehow this other game's fault.
>>93953554>I actually hate Gnawholes the most because they're so entwined in the army's rulesSee, that doesn't bother me. It is very lore-appropriate and thematically fitting for Skaven to bring gnawholes to every engagment, as tearing reality new assholes as needed to get up to skullduggery and shenanigans is very much on brand for them. For me, what detracts from immersion is respective factions bringing portals, fountains, giant ass moon rocks and bone tithe nexuses to every battle. Gnawholes and wyldwoods I get, and I believe I read a story where some ghouls slapped together a charnel throne in a hurry, but I'd like to see faction terrain be an option for most factions. Maybe be able to opt out of taking them and get an extra artefact, trait, or command point. Armies of Renown is a good start, but they tend to trade on annoyance for another in the form of obligatory named centerpieces.>>93953615This, pretty much. Stormcast getting faction terrain has me convinced everyone is getting one at one point, with KO and SoB (specifically, Gatebreakers) being the most shoehorned.>>93953628Wyldwoods and gnawholes don't bother me, what bothers me about wyldwoods is how dogshit the sculpt is.>>93953968Nah, Khorne should always be on top because in every Warhammer setting he tends to be the most powerful at any given time due to the nature of how Chaos works.>>93954212GW is ridiculous (like they've gotta be high with the prices on these repackaged Kill Teams) but tabletop war gaming is not, has never been, and will never be a hobby for poors, and that's a good thing.>>93953774After the Dominion Gutrippaz and the Leviathan Termagaunts, I'm extremely distrusting of GW's FOMO boxes, and while everything in Skaventide looked OK, there was nothing in the box aside from the warpblaster got me particularly excited.>>93954654Be that as it may, the winds can change very quickly.>>93954959To be fair, marinefags are notorious pay-piggies.>>93955576WALLED.
>>93956323There is also a small part of 40k players(mostly xeno players) who resent sigmar for "taking away resources from 40k" and would like the game to die
>>93956347I am a 40k xenos player (T'au and LoV) and I like both games/settings. I think with the kind of profit margins GW has with their plastic, it's unreasonable to think that developing one game is taking resources from the other when GW has the money to do both. Retards gonna retard I guess.
>>93956345I don't like Gnawholes because I sincerely consider myself too dumb to properly utilize movement shenigansI picked Skaven to play a gunline with Stormfiends and WLCs
>>93956347That is impressively retarded.Literally the second most retarded sect of GW fans after those people that unironically thought that all the supply issues with shit over the past few years were caused by GW ramping up to do a colossal release for TOW where they re-released every faction at once, alongside revamps, instead of the supply issues being caused by, you know, sane things like demand outstripping the ability to produce and TOW being announced literally the day after it was greenlit to start work on the project.
>The only time this general is active is when someone is trollingThis game is dead the moment VC get released in the old world fantasy chads keep winning
>>93956606Wish they would just release empire already so I can leave this gen and finally get into fantasy. Why the fuck is it launching next year?
>>93948056Do you lads think we will get a Dark Oath spear head box?
>>93956693Because they want enough time to pass for you to not realize that they've doubled the prices of basic infantry that's nearing the legal drinking age.
>>93956693They need space to advertisethe the new AoS edition(flop), hope to see your future army>Verification not required
>>93956709??? Going off the warriors of chaos. 32 warriors costs $100 or $80 if you go third party. When I was a teen a box of 16 chaos warriors was $40. Considering inflation of over a decade they are actually cheaper now than they were before. ToW is easily the most consumer friendly priced GW game when looking at points per dollar.
>>93955850Lol you actually went to 6 different websites without asking yourself whether you were too invested in this shit, you have definitely spent too much time on the internet today.
>>93956703They confirmed that in NOVA that Slaves to Darkness for Warhammer day along with a Darkoath theme spearhead box
>>93956408reminder that the opponent does not know how dumb you are at gnawholes and has to play around it
>>93957127This. Reserve units are a threat that makes the opponent have to make different decisions even if you never utilize them.
Id really like some suggestions on what colour to paint the blade of this Chaos Lords weapon. The base below the blade will be gold eventually and im trying to imagine something unique for his blade to match its texture. I dont really want to do the volcanic look you see often on this model because i dont think it will match the Bronze/Gold/Red colour scheme ive done for my spear head box.Thanks in advance.
>>93957535Black and red is the easy match, but that’s close to the volcanic look you don’t want. Something with a pale soul-y blue would pop, especially paired with silver or a volcanic black to make it blue fire
>>93957590>Something with a pale soul-y blue would pop, especially paired with silver or a volcanic black to make it blue fireIm having trouble visualizing what you mean. Could you maybe show me some close examples if you got time?
>>93957535molten orange, or icy white are the 2 obvious choices.after that maybe glossy obsidian black? do black, dark blue-green highlights, then gloss varnish?just dont do a green spectral blade because you've gone red for the cloak, and red and green look horrid.
>>93957638not that anon, but he prob means like this.
>>93957535
Anybody else kind of hate that they didnt update the foot clawlord? krittok KINDA fits into the "foot clawlord" but is just a named one, but idk the clanrats sculpted into his cloak and the bald head and gutplate arent my favorite for a clawlord, would have liked an updated version of pic rel.
>>93959015>krittok KINDA fits into the "foot clawlord" but is just a named oneIsn't he one of those fake named characters, who have generic warscrolls?
>>93959385no????he literally has special rules?????
>>93959409Huh. Thought he's another case of this
>>93959462i mean, that guy is the only retail version of the executioner,Youre more so thinking of the black library characters or the commemorative series stuff that have no special rules but are generally intended to be used as stand ins (pic rel.)
>>93959482The new Skaven guy is standard retail too, so shit like the Executioner is the comparison, not alt sculpts given out on events
>>93959509regardless he confirmed has special rules and confirmed (by warcom) to have a regiment of renown where they mention his specific special rules too
>>93951745looks fake as shit
>rat book has step by step kitbash instructionssurprising
>>93959736Looks like a low level SPORE creature
>>93959763Or some really shitty magical staff.
>>93959763Looks like the nippy nippy nip nip sticks from labyrinth
>>93959763makes me think, why did they go with a non helmeted clawlord if they KNOW that people in general prefer helmeted (either open or fully closed helmets)Same thing goes for krittok, as easily my least favorite part is his head
>>93959814>if they KNOW that people in general prefer helmetedGrog shrieks when first Stormcast released probably convinced them otherwise.
>>93959814It's a kitbash guide for a path to glory character where they use a spare head from another model in the skaventide box to make it Their Dude, there's not a whole lot more thought to it
>>93956606Barely anyone shares their models or games here, this general is literally just autism posting 95% of the time. It's worse than 40kg and that's really saying something
>>93959930Mainly because I don't want to be identified as posting on here. Most people would assume I'm a closet nazi or some shit
>>93959938>o-oh no my fellow redittors may find out I post on a mongolian basket weaving forum
>>93959930>" It's worse than 40kg"hah,no
>>93956606its the start of the edition, right after all the first wave stuff is announced and right before all the new models and battletome stuff drops
>>93959930>barely anyone posts models or gamesbro what there literally often is
I honestly think more people have played Spearhead than actually trying 4E. It seems to be the new hotness at my local.
>>93960144Fantasy didn't get a new edition for years and you see people posting models and discusing the lore same with 40kg when a new edition releases accept that 3rd killed the game
>>93960208tbf it's not a big jump to real games, spearhead is like 1k almost and there are as many enhancements
>>93960208I know i did that.
God please let the narrative rulebook feature enhancent lists that are more than 3 items. PtG is boring af rn
>>93959763He cute
SCE next weekend for sure
>>93960495it's honestly embarrassing to see AoS shafted in it's edition launch for anything 40k
>>93960509I thought 40k is done for the year?
>>93960509I don't think so. There was a long streak of nothing but AoS coverage. It doesn't feel like the game is being given the shaft just because it's been out of focus for a few weeks.
>Skaven warpfire weapons: shoot in combat >Any dragon breath weapon: shoot in combat >Steam Tank Steam Gun: can't shoot in combat
>>93960786That’s what you get for using fantasy units anon.
>>93960786Fantasy units are garbage on purpose in preparation to their phasing out.
>>93961004Black Dragon is fantasy
>>93960786Balancing
>>939602224chan in general is grog central, anon. If anything, its ridiculously impressive that /aosg/ even exists. Or that it has continuously mogged /wfg/ for most of its existence. That shouldn't be possible.
>>93960786Rat ogres: Can aim their arms downwardDragons: Can aim their necks downwardSteam gun: Can not be aimed downward
>>93960372lol
>>93961179The steam gun shoots steam. It had the equivalent of shoot in combat in WHFB and does again in TOW.
I want about half my chaos warriors to be helmetless, which heads would be best for swapping, stormcast?
I bought this dude off darkminiatures. I'm thinking the upper armor pieces will be silver while the middle layer between the top pieces and the skin will be black. I like how the trousers' color pairs with the skin so I'm keeping that.>>93948264these look like somebody is tried to strip them but didn't leave them in the alcohol long enough. is the base still wet or did you add some kind of product to make it look wet always?
>>93959930Im pretty sure i've seen more aos models get posted in the 40k general than actual 40k stuff the few times I peaked in there while I was on guard duty.
>>93960372He just wants the hug he can never give
>>93961215Aren't warriors already coming with helmetless options?
>>93961226Never seen a red undercoat for green but I guess brown is common enough
>>93961527There's 3 helmetless heads in the kit, one of which I simply don't like.So I need more.
>>93961226The ones with flat bases just have a gloss varnish applied to the basing mud. The ones with some height have AK still water used
>>93961597Stormcast probably have the most comparable heads then
>>93948264>Texture paste in be rim
>>93961540>every greenskin needs to be greenFree yourself anon and enter the rainbow not the gay one
>You should smite yourself. Now.
>they're pushing a new MESBG boxWe're probably not seeing stormcast preorders for another week.
>>93961793Good, means I get another league game in before they potentially nerf my Longstrikes.
>>93961669Ganbatte deadbeat>>93948264I like the rust but your base looks like literal diarrhea
>>93953774Sigmarines continue to suck, you can verify this by price checking each half of the box.Definitely isn't as bad as Dominion though.
Bunch of side game shit, but at least the Briar & Bone stuff is getting individual releases. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/09/22/sunday-preview-a-little-something-for-everyone/
>>93962023That warband is mostly mid, but i love the whip-hand guy
>>93962023this warband was so forgettable
>>93962431like sylvaneth
>>93962431Because it's mostly just regular guys
>>93953409This is a super cool idea and very nice paintjob, but I can't help but feel it looks way worse outside of a few specific angles.
>>93962431I like the swarmlord
>>93962431I dislike how they are using the Warcry Warbands to give units to armies while at the same time making them so much disjointed that they look out of place in an actual AoS game.
>>93962576they completely in line with sylvs aesthetics.
>>93962548Found it. Still doesn't look half bad.
>>93962598They are a unit of 3 Dryads, 3 Tree Revenants and 2 Spite Revenant. They are incredibly disjointed not in the design of the specific models but in the composition of them as a unit. Most Warcry bands have that problem. The River Temple has half the guys in pajamas and without armour for the same reason.
Will the demon armies get a refresh? The Tzeentch line looks dog and tired.
>>93962665They're all spite revenants really
>>93962682Doubt it
>>93962144I think it's cool on a technical level. I mean we have revenant models from near a decade ago to compare to. And those models still look good, but with the new unit we get a showcase of how much better fidelity the newer kits are made in.
>>93962682Nurgle demons for Underworlds is the most you'll get
>>93962431Yeah can't even be used in ToW>>93962682Maybe if they get move to ToW they would get one eventualy
>>93948056For obvious reasons my group and I refer to it as age of nigmar
>>93962878>old shit: the game>updatig modelsYou'd sunner get the tiny greater demons back
>>93962920sooner obviously
I'm going to work, won't be back until midnight. Post some Lumineths please.
>>93962920They will update more models eventually is going to take years tougth
>>93963061
>>93963061I don't know what is that bu here is an elf
>>93963077Doesn't the warrior releas straigh up not have any model in it that hasn't been already sold? Not even a pitty hero like orcs got
>>93962682not soon, go grab recasts/scans of the 6th ed models, convert your own from third parties like mantic's devils and nightstalkers, various 3D printed alternatives like one page rules, or get expensive proxies like creature caster's or the various oldhammer recreators
>>93962682Tzzentch got blue/brim demons last wave
I keep forgetting demons other than the greater/lesser duo exist
>local hobby store started stocking GW>decided to support them instead of ordering from a fast and reliable online store>it's been a month and my model hasn't shown up, they're not really sure what the status is>they put it down to being unfamiliar with ordering from their GW wholesaler>model was supposed to be for my birthday
>>93964232The store isn't local if you can't just go there and take stuff off the shelves
>>93964232supporting your local store is nice and all but that doesnt mean going out of your way to help a poorly run businessBecause ultimately EVEN if you put up with whatever bullshit is going on there, if they dont get their act together other people wont since most people dont care and just want their plastic in the cheapest and quickest way
>>93964232i ran into a similar situation in 3rd during the stocking crisis. ordered a mawkrusha at my flgs and it took nearly 4 months to arrive. i love my flgs, they put on a great space, they have a ton of tables and im personal friends with the owner, but GW stock distribution and orders are so fucking erratic and they do nothing to give the retailers any kind of timeline on orders other than "we're working on it", that now if they dont have the item on their shelfs, i'll just order it online. i'll still pick up kits off the shelf but im not placing an order at the store anymore unless its a pre-order for something they 100% are getting in that i can guarantee arrival date and stock, like an edition launch box. so yeah, my sympathies, been there. its not a great place to be. you want to support the local business but the warehouse makes it painful.
>>93964370>poorly runthat might not be the case. GW distribution is famous for jerking around its retailers. could be a legitimate case of GW just being a pain in the ass
>>93963061aw yeah nah yeah nah yeah nah
>>93965041ei viddu mage :DDDDD onx toi aossi spurdo??? :D vidun lehmä :DD
>>93963061Posted them some days ago, but since you asked nicely.I want to keep working on my army, but I've got some vidya I want to play, too.
>>93964232Don't feel obligated to support your local store. Because for as much as people put them on a pedestal, they aren't immune from criticism. Just because they're local doesn't make them good. I've got 3 nearby that all at one point stocked GW in some capacity but refused to try and grow a community beyond scribbling in "Warhammer" on one of the days of the week of their calendar. Two of them did barely enough to even have a playspace or terrain and one even cut all GW product after not being given any Leviathan copies. If you don't play MTG it feels like you're a second class customer in terms of service at those 3. Hell, my group donated a table to one of those under the premise of helping start a community and the next time we showed up to play the table was piled high with old accessories and cables from random consoles. One had a discount and slowly chipped away at it, now all 3 are MSRP, and now that I think of it, none within my area have a discount that I know of. It's why I don't use the "F" in "FLGS" because my experience with them has been largely not friendly and they don't get that distinction or preferential treatment to my business just because they're a "mom and pop" store.
>>93965477NTA but my city has 2 big FLGS that don’t sell magic at all and cater towards table games. One has nights for 40k, AoS and old world. The other has nights for 40k, old world, bolt action and dnd. I pity the people who only have stores which sell magic + other things.
>>93965402these look really nice anon, very clean and neat
>>93965503That sounds wonderful. One of those 3 I have is mainly MtG, Pokemon, and fucking Heroclix of all things.
>>93965523I don’t even know what a heroclix is
>>93965554it's when a woman finds a spot that feels good when she pegs you
>>93956408>I sincerely consider myself too dumb to properly utilize movement shenigansWell you know how you get to Carnegie Hall, don'tcha? Anyway, as other anons have mentioned your opponents have no way of knowing your mind is stuck on HAHAHA RATS GO BRRRRRR; they're gonna assume you're all about 300 IQ plays and "just according to keikaku" bullshit; they're playing chess while you're playing checkers, use that, let them outsmart themselves.
Assembled the new weapons teams today. Honestly very happy with the kit. Managed to stretch it and make 5 dudes so I got 2 squads out of the box with bits left over.
>>93966739How'd you stretch it out, just using one rat per base?
>>93964232My lgs carries age of sigmar products, uses aos promotional material in store and online, has a demo aos army for every edition, but refuses to allow aos games in store whereas 40k gets a whole game night a week, pokemon gets fucking two game nights a week, lorcana gets one game night a week, magic gets 2 nights a week and Bandai tcgs get one night a week as well. Just because your lgs carries product doesn't make it necessarily worth giving them your money
>>93962144He looks cool but sucks. Same as bow.Other 3 are all alright. Wish I had read the rules before building mine lol
>still no preorder for SCEI dont even play them but this slow release schedule makes me worried we only get like 4 battletomes next year
i feel like these could have been 2 different units.
>>93967789God those mortek look goofy...I get that the OG Mortek Guard look way too small compared to anything, but if you are going to make them Thunderthighs at least give them sole leg armor so they dont look nude
>>93967789>dog pack like gryph hounds>harpies like SBGL bats>Liege Kavalos from Ghur>2 random Mortek-likes
>>93967786I wouldn't worry about the number of tomes per year. GW will shit out 2 books with 1 pity hero each every quarter with like 2 real releases in between
>>93967789ugliest army in the game
>>93967789Why do the dogs have horns in some promotional images and don't in others? Do they have head options?
>>93968448>Do they have head options?Yes.
>>93968448Yes. It's not uncomon for Warcry to have some minor customization, even if the band is your whole army
>>93968553They used to have two+ builds each aside from beastly companions but that's rare now. >>93968448https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerInstructions/comments/1f9ahcr/aos_warcry_ossiarch_bonereapers_teratic_cohort/#lightboxNo
>>93968592>noshows that they clearly do have build options
>>93968592Anon...
>>93951816Yeah they won 3-0I played Tzeentch and there was literally nothing I could do as the 20 archers just peppered LoC
>>93967786rn its on the exact same schedule as 40k's launch, frankly i expect aos to have a better schedule than 40k after the launch stuff is out
>>93963061Behold, Aelven beauty
>>93968706Lol yeah couple of my mates play lrl and they're just playing a different game to the rest of us. My sylvaneth are utterly fucked right now, it's like the index writer actively hates them the rules are so bad; let's build an army around standing very close to specific spots but make it near impossible to actually achieve that. Not got any trees down? Well fuck you and yours, you don't have any spells, battle traits or mobility. Managed to get some trees down? Well fuck you the ranges are so tight they can be rendered useless by a single model standing near them.
>>93969065the trees are a bonus you aren't supposed to have them by every unit 24/7. Why is this so hard for people to understand.
hmmmm....I think I will pick up ogres. I need an excuse to paint those gorgers.
>>93969079The army is not built with the trees being a bonus anon.
Spooks (2000 points) - General's Handbook 2024-25NighthauntDeath StalkersDrops: 3Manifestation Lore - Morbid ConjurationSpell Lore - Lore of the UnderworldsGeneral's RegimentReikenor the Grimhailer (210)• GeneralBladegheist Revenants (300)• ReinforcedBladegheist Revenants (300)• ReinforcedDreadscythe Harridans (300)• Reinforced• 1x ChampionRegiment 1Lord Executioner (150)• Lightshard of the Harvest Moon• Cloaked in ShadowChainghasts (100)Regiment 2Awlrach the Drowner (160)Dreadblade Harrows (160)Dreadblade Harrows (160)Hexwraiths (160)• 1x ChampionThis is is my supposed list for a small local tournement. Am I being an idiot for not bringing Olynder, spamming Hexwraiths or not even picking Ruler of the Spectral Host as my hero trait?
>>93969065im almost certain that im just gonna ban terrain and endless spells from my games (im mostly just playing with friends, and im the one doing most of the organizing)Endless spells would be fine except i dont want to see them in EVERY game and make them mandatory, though ive never HATED the idea of models for spells, just that i dont like them as replacements for having other options for spells (including smaller buffing stuff that doesnt work as a model as itself)As for faction terrain? never been a fan and ESPECIALLY hated how it was implemented for sylvaneth (them being so built around their terrain) and now EVERYONE gets faction terrain for free it just makes stuff like gnawholes mandatory when they were a thematic neat option before (though way too big and would have still been better as spells)Putting down random things that give buffs and block LoS and nothing else and generally dont make sense to be appearing game after game after game just kinda sours shit for meIve also considered homebrewing alternate activations but thats its own beast
Is 4chan done being dumb
>>93969079>the trees are a bonusThey're the backbone of the army. They're as much a bonus feature to sylvaneth as wheels are a bonus feature on a bike.
we got a lizard hero to convert
>>93969214Looks cool
>>93969214Wait hold up that dude has to kill a baby dinosaur to get that skull on his head what the fuck.
>>93969214Surprisingly good, BB lizards tend to look retarded
>>93969079>using your battle traits is a bonus>using your spells is a bonus>using your god unit's key ability is a bonusOh silly me, what was I thinking. Imagine wanting to be able to use my army rules, fuck me I guess
>>93969195Yeh it was down for meintenance for a bit
>>93969079having to buy 2 boxes of those damn trees is retarded but you cant just remove what makes sylvaneth just like thatyou just expect your units to stand around doing nothing?
Noosehttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/09/23/get-ready-for-chaos-warhammer-day-2024-is-coming/
>>93969235fluff about temple guard skull helmets went both ways depending on time>They're the skulls of revered creatures of the jungle that happen to be conveniently small enough>They're the actual skulls of a previous generation of temple guards inherited by the new generation
>>93969308Where are all the retards claiming Underworlds is dead?
>>93969308>new logo for Warhammer underworlds>no warcry>new skaven confirmed despite the reveal saying this was going to be it for them for the next 12 monthsbtw, whitefang's "mini doomwheel" must be part of this underworlds warband then, skryre wins again
>>93969315Dead
>>93969308That's a new logo for Underworlds. Are they launching a new box set already? And with a fourth Skaven warband?
>>93969329I recall back when that Rumour Engine was first posted that people were mocking and jeering me for thinking that it had to be a Skaven model...>no skaven don't use bombs like that (wrong)>looks too shitty to be skaven (wrong)>other factions have those spheres too (wrong)
>>93969308Please sirs, reveal the new underworlds chaos dwarfs too.
>>93969308Tzeentch got fucking Mike Wazowski-ed
>>93969350>people were mocking meprobably for other reasons, or you butted horns with another sperg.
>>93969377I think it was just extreme pessimism because it was long before the skaven update was confirmed
>>93969350Wasn't this a Necroblunder model?
>>93969308I still cannot accept the horned rat as a proper chaos god until we get lesser demons, human cultists and blessed warriors and chosen.
>>93969214That's the rumour engine
>>93969421not sure about it but I doubt it
>>93969399Human cultists are kind of a thing in lore. They just get shanked by Skaven whenever they open a way to GHR's realm.You could argue skaven themsleves are lesser demons, with Verminlords being very obviously greater ones.
>>93969426we don't have a proper look at the back but the artwork, which is usually quite accurate for the model, shows a different backspine
>>93969148NH are so obsenely broken you can basically bring almost anything and roll over the other guy with ease. Harrows make Tactics an autoscore.Olynder and Hexwraiths just make it even easier.
>>93969421>>93969426From what I've seen the only time Blood Bowl gets REs, they're specially marked
>>93969434>You could argue skaven themsleves are lesser demonsNo? Skaven are flesh-and-blood mortal creatures. If anything, the lesser daemons are the things that Pestilens plagues summon, like the rat-faced ticks and fleas.
>>93969399I understand he’s at the rank he is, and I accept it. But what throws it for me is GHR not having a proper name and the stuff you list. I mean, Verminlords do count as his greater demon, but that’s about it.
>>93969065LRL and NH are on a totally different level.The Facets are obscene.Armywide -1 hit? Make 14" move shooters move again after shooting? No need to roll dice btw. They just get it.Meanwhile Kruleboyz need to succeed on a diceroll for each unit or they dont get an army trait at all.Oh yeah and the fox makes the ignore ward shooters advance and shoot, retreat and shoot. Great game design, guys. Their terrain also has a 3+ save and a shitload of health for some reason.
>>93969308So, are better roadmaps incoming?
>>93969399Horn rat had human cultist since the 80s but there only ever showed up in RPGs
>>93969619I suppose we might get a roadmap for Underworlds. Wouldn't bet on it, though. But we might get some idea of the sequence and scope of future releases.
>>93969563the names of the gods are quite straightforwardjust gotta find the dark tongue/old tongue word for desperation or panic and add the -neth suffix
New UW season likely means a new location.We had >spooky space station>hungry hungry hill>damp dungeon>fucked up forest>chilly caveWhat's next /tg/?
>>93969746gnarlwood again
Is whoever made this in the bread?
>>93969746>New UW season likely means a new location.I'm a little confused. Is the release format now just to drop a big box with two warbands in it twice a year? There have been no mid-season release of dudes or decks for Wintermaw as of yet, which is a first.
>>93969811Ws the Beauty and the Beast warband not post Wintermaw?
What's stopping a vampire count from working or being enthralled by the flesh eater courts
>>93969804well, you posted it, so I guess sobut you need to make a variant image showcasing the delusions people are under
>>93969308what are they even going to show off for AoS? new models for Slaves to Darkness would be my guess since outside of SCE there the only army i think coming this year
>>93969825Carion Curse is a mutation of Ushoran's Soulblight Curse, so maybe being infected with Soulblight protects you from Carion, just like cow pox protected from smallpox?
>>93969840Less vague roadmap. Probably a cover of the StD tome
>>93969687I know that text you’re referencing, but can’t recall if it has those specific words.
>>93969308B...beasts "coughs blood" of...c-chaos....when...?
A little odd. It's in the transcript but isn't spoken. Might be something, might be nothing.
>>93969873Embergard is that Aqshy ghost town Skaven stole from the lich bitch, right?I guess we're going there in UW
>>93969824Those were released for Deathgorge a while before the season turned to Wintermaw.
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>>93969851I don't think GW will ever publish another Roadmap after the near universal dislike of the Nova reveals
>>93969931Which one was Nova?
>>93969937the most recent reveals show which was 10% models and 90% vague roadmaps
>>93969944The concept of a roadmap.
>>93969825>workingnothing>being enthralled byvampirism works by severing your soul from the immortal realm and encasing it fully within your material body, this has a number of effects:-since your soul is now very well preserved into a container in the mortal realm that's relatively sterile and isolated from the entropy of the immortal realm, it can stay as it is indefinitely-your soul does not sustain itself with the background vibrancy of the immaterial realm it's normally immersed into and must instead actively feed on the life force of other beings -your soul is very much out of the grasp of demons and similar entities which reside in the immortal realm, if they want you they need to get down to your level and convince you-since, again, your soul is isolated within yourself with little to no outside influence with the warp's vibrancy, which would normally contribute to your character, ideas, spirit, will and drive and emotions, your soul becomes utterly self referential and can easily spiral into a degeneration that exacerbates any flaw previously present, this usually manifest more evidently in those vampires that turn into the inner beast, but pretty much all others have a feature or another that warps them, usually it's a measure of egocentrism which becomes egomaniacalso the simpler answer is that normal vampires are well isolated from the madness of the flesh eaters and the normal ghoul kings can become subjected to it only because they share a bloodline with their primogenitor, ushoranwe could make a guess that IF someone wanted to have another vampire fall to the madness of ushoran they would need to become related to him, and although there's no precedent for a vampire of a different bloodline to somehow receive "a second blood kiss" I wouldn't completely rule out a ritual of some kind that effectively achieves that one way or another, be it wilful exchange of blood or dirty waterboarding with kingsblood.
>>93969931They've released several well received roadmaps in the past, those just happened to be the shittiest, vaguest, worst-formatted, most confusing excuse for a roadmap I've ever seen in my entire life.
>>93969308>This year’s Commemorative Miniature is the Chaos Sorcerer Tzarketh, Bane of Law, and we’ll be revealing their glorious model in the coming days. You’ll be able to pre-order this miniature on the 5th of October, while stocks last – don’t delay, pledge your immortal soul to the pantheon today!this seems like it slipped past people's attention but I too thought they were talking about pic related at first glance
>>93969873>>93969889would be neat, either for warcry or underworldsmaybe both, it's got a bit of everything
>>93969978>bane of Lawhas GW reference the Gods of Law in AoS before?
>>93969978I presume it to be a Thousand Sons model
>>93970048Had the same thought.No way they'd do Chaos Sorcerer twice in a row for AoS
>>93970048wouldn't GW say it's a thousand sons sorcerer then?
>>93969978I love this model. I wonder if it's been scanned well/recasted
noob here, I want to have a nice waifu centerpiece model plus elite unitswhat army should I collect?
>>93970048The name is somewhat tzeentchian, made me remember about pic related.Maybe it's a disciple of tzeentch sorcerer.
>>93970130lady olynder but im biased because I think a corpse gf would be neat.
>>93970130>Centerpiece + eliteAlarielle and big trees would workNagash also wears a really cute crop top
>>93970296>>93970341ok thanks, and what about horde army then?
>>93970130Nighthaunt are busted atm, wouldnt wanna play with you.Dont play Sylvaneth as a new player, unless you realy love them, 4e terrain hasnt been kind to them and they need you to know exactly what you are doing to have a chance.Daughters usually hordy, snake heavy lists are possible tho.Take a look at Gravelords, the big vampire bitch is for monster fuckers, but a vampire cav heavy army with Neferata at the helm works.
>>93969252you can't spam euphoric and you can't spam trees, simple as.
>>93970513>big vampire bitchthis one?
>>93970547Ye, surprisingly at the upper end of fuckable models, compared to the quota females they sneak in everywhere else.Daughters are the designated coomer army, sounds like a good pick.
>>93970636sounds nice, these look fantastic too
deathrattle skeletons having a base of a 10 men squad is odd.
>>93970130Nighthaunt’s the only one that has a recent sculpt for its basic infantry.
Anyone have a source for Doom Flayer STLs?
>>93969509I just had a draw against a NH players as squig heavy GSG. And the only reason for that is Skragrott said no. I pulled off his fangs of bad moon like 6 times, countercasted it too. Everytime shitting out 8 or so mortals.There was only one bedsheet left.Mate got kinda mad.
>>93971073They've been MSU 10 since 2015
>>93971732> I only won because I rolled hot for the best magic missile spell in the game 8 to 10 timesOh good. The balanced and rewarding gameplay experience we have come to expect from the greatest fantasy wargame on the market!
>>93972188>Dice games are subjected to random chanceWow
>>93972188blud does NOT understand how this game works ong
>>93972188Can you read, it was a draw, go back to 40k where you cast gun.
I'm concerned I'm running out of heroes and spells to paint anons, I might have to actually start working on battleline....
>>93971956what does that matter, zombies used to be msu 10.
So I've wound up with what equates to like 2 soul wars boxes thanks to a friend dumping them on me. Are any of these fucking units even good? I like ghosts and all but Chainrasps look like they suck, Glaivewraiths look like they suck, I don't think I hace enough dudes for the scythe dudes, what the fuck was GW smoking for this shit? I also think the hero jailer guy is missing 2 dudes.
Played another spearhead today with my friend (skaven v. seraphon) and I ended up winning as the Skaven I think purely because my rat ogors got off 9 shots and landed 7 or 8 in the first battle round against his kroxigors. I also learned how to properly utilize the battle trait. Deploying my clanrats on his empty home objective felt pretty good.
>>93972968you could scratchbuild terrain, milord
>>93973191Tempting but I snagged some cheapo terrain too. I wanna save that for when I can ask my dad for tips since he does a bunch of model railroad stuff.
>>93973075They keep nerfing chainrasp, they aren't really worth it anymore. Best thing in that box now is the executioner.
>>93973211>Best thing in that box now is the executioner.Not the only generic wizard in the army exclusive to that box and an overpriced online only bundle?
>>93973211Seems a bit scuffed to nerf the battleline
When do they announce the christmas battleforce boxes and what factions are (You) expecting?
>>93973377SCE, Skaven, Ironjawz, NH.
>>93973377CoS, FEC, Ironjawz
>>93973268no he isn't, he used to be before 4th.
>>93973486Is every unit from this box just crap now?!
>>93970130All snek
>>93973377>When do they announce the christmas battleforce boxesLate October/Start November
>>93973518The executioner is in every list and the guardian of souls and knight of shrouds see occasional play.
>>93973204What about objective markers? as a treat and warmup
Wait, Executioner is good now? But /tg/ told me combat heroes or foot are worthless
>>93973638 didn't want to spam but I'm having fun on the steps to this gif
>>93973707Try to think about the reason for why combat heroes on foot are worthless and try to see how many of those apply to the Executioner
>>93973791It's a ghould bit, got me in stitches.
>>93969329was hoping it would be for new night runners, but I guess a suicide rat is ok too.Can't be any worse than the hackjob the tome got where they just copypasta'd the index and expect you to fork over $60 for it.
>>93974920They already did an eshin team for UW. Nightrunner replacement is more likely to be through Warcry.
>>93969746>>93969873I was already thinking that the new UQ focus would be somewhere in Aqshy (mirroring big AoS, since they like to have the same focus realms when they can) but this all but confirms that Embergard is where UW or Warcry will take place (hoping warcry, because i want some more mordheimy AoS terrain)Also while its not stated as part of the 5 that are listed, Warcry MIGHT have some sort of information there too, but i wouldnt EXPECT itThough its weird we still havent heard anything new about warcry in forever
>>93969746But we didn't get the two teams from the last season :(
>>93969746Free cities shipping docks
>>93970048>>93970058"chaos sorcerer" is specifically AoS/ TOWIt would be "chaos space marine sorcerer in terminator armor" or the sort if it was 40k
>>93948056After a bit of 4th as stormcast, a few observations:>Palladors kick a lot of ass now. Genuinely competitive with dracoths if not better for the points.>Reclusians only make sense in a Ruination list, otherwise Questor Soulsworn do literally everything they do better and cost less $ IRL.>Reinforced Prosecutors are genuinely useful and a great target for bringing back at half strength for 1 CP.>Lord Relictor and Knight Arcanum are my two go-to heroes, Bastian is very legit and great for moving vanquishers + reclusians up the field. Funny corner case for putting your prosecutors on the table turn 1 if you know you're going first, because with him they're going 24" and then charging 3d6 which is going to do better than deepstriking 9" away.It's weird to say but stormcast feel like ironjawz did, they're tough and have some speedy options while hitting hard in a very unsubtle manner.StD except they have more trickery instead of just depending on statlines.
>>93976695>Reclusians only make sense in a Ruination list, otherwise Questor Soulsworn do literally everything they do better and cost less $ IRL.Reclusians turn on the bonus for your other units in Thunderhead Host while Questors don't, no?
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