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unstoppable slasher edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-26-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement

The Week That Was: Where Dreams Become Reality
https://magic.gg/news/the-week-that-was-where-dreams-become-reality

Metagame Mentor: Discussing Pioneer with Bloomburrow
https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-discussing-pioneer-with-bloomburrow

>Spoilers
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https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/
>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>Previously:
>>94151611

>TQ
what decks/formats have you been playing recently?
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I would like to see Universes Beyond: The Simpsons
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Since this game is sweetbabyed as fuck UNIVERSES BEYOND x JEFFREY EPSTEIN when?
One of sweet baby executives only weeks prior to being hired to ruin this game was a BLACKED.COM producer.
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this kid got mindraped by social media
>>94162495
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>>94162420
The Achuta Bat or whatever it's called pretty much breaks Unstoppable Slasher. So what needs to be banned? The Slasher for halfing your health each time it directly attacks? Or the bat for doubling the damage and makes the Slasher go from halfing your health to just fucking 1 shooting you?
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>>94162525
The bat has other stupid combos it can work with. Even before slasher there were similar combos people were doing with that black spree spell or other black burn type cards
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>>94162525
>one shooting
One shotting*
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Why do Japanese tournaments have a different meta share compared to the rest of the world? Do people netdeck less for big tournaments?
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>>94162871
Probably something about honor

>This decku wasa forged wissu my ownu wirrpower i must bring it to victory for my famiry
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>print card that could fuck over most modern decks
>does not see play anywhere
feels bad
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>>94162898
I don't want plains in my deck and I don't want them in your deck either.
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>>94162420
>TQ
Standard and Pioneer, but mostly Standard. Been having a good time.
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>>94162898
Why is this in White, this is a green/red/black effect, no? I doubt ponza would want to try casting a double White pip
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>>94162964
Despite the arenababies crying about losing to stupid 1-drops and not knowing how to use the plethora of removal available Standard is in a really good place right now. It’s an aggro meta for sure but that’s not necessarily a bad thing
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>>94162420
>TQ
Started playing Pauper, the decks are so cheap that I ended up ordering a bunch at once
I do feel like a addict now
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>>94162898
maybe if it didn't let them search for a land
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>>94162972
In case y'all haven't heard the arenababies have been crying so hard that the Arena devs have hinted at a possible banning of Leyline of Resonance in Bo1 specifically
Which, just, lol
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What cards can I add into this Standard deck from last year? The only card I'm thinking I can replace is Wedding Announcement with Dollmaker's Shop. Any additions or replacements would be appreciated.
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>>94162999
The only card I would keep from this list is the plains.
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>>94162525
that is a pipe dream that never actually happens
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>>94162420
>TQ
playing?
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>>94163057
It just did to me, I didn't read the effect of both cards while playing Arabella.
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>>94163094
So you want a card banned because you are an arena babby who can't read cards?
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>>94163105
That's right.
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>>94163105
Why read
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I'm goldfishing Amulet Titan and this deck is fucking awesome in a way that I didn't know Modern decks could be capable of.
How is it positioned?
What's it like to play against it?
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>>94162891
>ah yes...shuffled ova 1000 times.
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>>94163235
>The Japanese actually have such a diverse meta because they heavily shuffle their decks so every card is marked by wear. That way they can cheat and draw whatever they need for their strategy
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>>94163326
do you even know what the bushido code is? they don't cheat because the japanese value honor above all else.
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>>94162871
Less metaslaves and less "ooga booga me see expencive gard me blay gard so it more expebcive so i can sell it" types
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>>94162420
>buy a playset of bloodletter of aclazotz for 5 tix back when slasher gets spoiled (and also because I like the card)
>fast forward to now, slasher + bloodletter is a competitive combo in both standard and pioneer
>gonna sell my playset today for 120 tix
I love MTGO so much bros
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>>94163201
>How is it positioned?
it's in a fine position if you're not expecting to face a lot of jeskai or moon decks (either blue or red)
>What's it like to play against it?
most decks aren't ready to interact with its play patterns so you just have to race it most of the time
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Standard is LE DEAD?
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>>94164047
Who?
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>lost to hololive card game
It's over
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I played in a local legacy tournament last night playing d/t
Lost to frog 2x
Won against maverick
This is probably an outlier but ever game I played last night had more cards from MH3 and UB than not.
I obviously can't quit, what am I going to do? Sell out of legacy and start playing the fan maintained netrunner game lmao but seriously where do I go to sell my cards?
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>>94164171
>people would rather play with cute girls than go on wotc's forced shit ride.
color me suprised
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>>94164171
>lost to a cash grab game
oh no
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>>94164299
>implying magic isn’t a cash grab game
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>>94164265
>what am I going to do?
get some mh3 and ub cards
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>>94164265
isn't d&t pretty good against frog? the deck runs like 8-10 removal effects and has built in lifelink in the form of batterskull. it's also not like many decks run anti white creature cards like they used to back when d&t was way more popular.
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>>94164171
MARO WE NEED MORE ANIME SECRET LAIRS
THEN ANIME FANS WILL LOVE MTG
BILLION DOLLAR IDEA!
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>>94163481
Is not cheating. Skill.
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>>94164265
the gorillas designing this slop have made it so a standard red deck would kill legacy D&T on turn 2 because mono white winning a game is racist
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NOBODY RESPOND TO WHITE SCHIZO
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>>94164327
We can reconvene in five years from now and compare the two. For better or worse, Magic has momentum and nostalgia going for it. Pretty much every "MTG killer" fizzles out early, the exception being YGO and maybe Hearthstone (except now that's apparently dying too). As much as I would love an actual decent competitor, I have little faith in the one backed up by a property which would consider card games a tertiary interest at best. Far stronger ones have already fallen, where the fuck are games like Gwent and Legends of Runeterra now? TES Legends? Scrolls? Those were backed by huge names which were actually in the video game realm. Or ones like Eternal or Solforge, which were made by people who actually played card games. Or any of the numerous games trying to revitalize paper.
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>>94164401
ayo, R&D finna balance this card game and shit. No Swords to Plowshares for you, white devil. You just die on turn 2? DAS RITE
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>>94164416
The biggest problem is that nobody’s made a better game yet. Time has proven that they got it right the first time when making a tcg. If somehow someone managed to make a better game one day I’m sure it would put a huge dent into Magic’s profitability
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>>94164265

Do you have a fat stack of graded RL cards to leverage against the huge pile of shit that nobody wants to deal with? No? Then you're a bagholder. Learn to like it.
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>>94164470
People can do better games, it's just that the momentum for existing TCG is so great that people can't penetrate the market. It eventually leads to more short term oriented decision because the reality is that they can't last long in the market.
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>>94164482
What game is better than magic and why? I’d love to see what you consider superior to it
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>>94164485
YGO
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why did tcg development in the us stop shortly after mtg?
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>>94164498
>running out of mana
not a problem in vintage dredge
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>>94164416
pretty sure the list from >>94164171 is from japan, but all of the game except one piece and holo tcg are 10+ years old.

>MTG killers
all the digital ones were tying to be hearthstone killers, none of them cared to be mtg or appeal to mtg players outside of being card games. And as you pointed out HS is slowly crashing, so the clones follow suit.

>Physical tcgs
It's always hard to tell because MTG has become so involved in the investment sphere that for every legit new paper tcg there are a dozen MetaZoo Crypto scams that are just trying to extort money from clueless investors believing they are buying into the equivalent of black lotuses or something.
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>>94164482
There's been plenty of attempts by games that have massive franchises behind them, I don't think that argument can really hold up. The One Piece game is a recent one, we'll see if that can stay alive. Hearthstone did it by focusing on digital. Marvel Snap is apparently doing well, with a focus on mobile. I just remembered Lorcana, too. Disney certainly has its own horde of consoomers, but that never seems to be enough for those games.
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Tierlist of the Championship casters?
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>>94164498
Has there been a single good deck in the history of the game that normal summoned anything?
It's been forever, but IIRC you had to sacrifice one lower monster to summon a 5+ star monster, and you had to sacrifice two monsters to summon an 8+ star monster, right? This was a big deal in casual play.
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>>94164565
My deck back in First Edition. My brother had no chance.
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>>94164558
cedric is the realest nigga
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>>94164380
Super good in fact
Sometimes you just dont get the removal though, eat a few well times forces and thats game
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>>94164485
netrunner android and keyforge
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>>94164485
Four Souls
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>>94164485
Ive had more fun playing ashes reborn but im not going to lie to you and say its a better game
When games are new or smaller you can brew more freely
Thats the only reason i like card games
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>>94164541
>japan
Yeah, Japan does its own thing. Until it actually affects us out here, their isolated market doesn't really matter.
>hearthstone killers
Sure, call it whatever you want. My point is that they're short lived. We can all argue about how X game is better or Y game is worse, but at the end of the day the easiest hard metric to look at is longevity.
>physical scams
Agreed, I'm guessing that along with a couple other factors makes it much harder to get one going nowadays.
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>>94164558
Marshall has that expression like he is barely containing his disgust.
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>>94164380
Playing against any tamiyo deck on the draw is fucked imo
Playing against tinfins on the draw is fucked
Playing d/t in legacy is asking to auto lose a match to rng imo
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>>94164558
Cedric > Marshall > Corey > the rest
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>>94164590
>>94164664
Stop it! We're supposed to be the racist website!
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>>94164397
Jokes on them I'm gonna build mono-White anyways (I'm racist)
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>>94164485

Nta but a short list off the top of my head;

anr, thrones, every lcg, l5r, burning sands/r9e, shadowfist, poxnora, culdcept, vtes and its many variants, doomtown, the adventure time ccg, uhmm
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>>94164171
Vtuber secret lair when?
I would 100% buy it just to dab on commanderfags with my anime girl deck that combos off t2 and watch them choke back a sneer because they invited this faggotry to begin with
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>>94164558
Cedric and Sullivan are the Artosis and Tasteless of MTG, and Marshall is at least listenable, the rest are nails on chalkboard
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>no magic con 2025 in europe
Its not fair. It was Prague's time.
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>>94164749
Anon, the commander players are all going to be playing anime waifu decks too. You'll just be fitting in.
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>>94164558
>no Patrick
Shame
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>>94164787
Pepiks are not worthy.
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>>94164749
0
most vtubers have some cleavage, and the rest would be considered lolis
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>>94164171
Wow the new game with a estabilished IP they actually care about outsold a slop game who does not care about it's own IP and constantly fucks itself over to be purposefully subversive
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https://x.com/rcondon17/status/1846175294907932962
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>>94164897
im literally named cracksmoker on MTGO and no one ever gave a fuck
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Some Secret Lair Promo cards for RCQ stuff.
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>>94164933
And then this unreadable mess.
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>>94164558
Cedric and Marshall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else

>>94164787
it's an american game we have to come to terms with, definitely feels like a kick in the nuts with how much of a success Amsterdam was
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>>94164787
Europe is pauperland and wotc knows better than to try to invade it. Just go to paupergeddon bro.
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Does mtga just straight up unapologetically scams you out of your entry fee if the set drafted switches while you're still playing? I was 3-0 on a Duskmourn draft and it just booted me out.
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>>94162898
>destroy nonbasic land
Based
>search their library for a basic
Cucked
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>>94165055
send a complaint email, they usually give refunds if it's the clients fault you crashed in the middle of an event
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>>94164941
This would be great if not for the illegible text
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>>94165133
Gonna have to wait until MH4 for Sinkhole on legs
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made some custom cards for energy counter mechanics.
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>>94165194
Incredibly boring, an offer of employment from Wizards of the Coast has been sent
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>>94165160
wotc will never EVER print a land destruction ability without a downside
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>>94165230
rare WotC W
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>>94165230
Green Blue Orchid Phantom GU
Flash
Flying
When Green Blue Orchid Phantom enters, destroy up to one target land, then create a 3/3 green Elk creature token. You gain 3 life and draw a card, then you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
2/2
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>>94165230
2 mana 3/3s aren't viable any more, so it has to Sinkhole people on ETB and attack
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WHY THE FUCK IS SIMIC DESIGN SO BROKE? "DRAW CARD DO THING" LIKE FUCK YOU, HAVE A DOWNSIDE OR COMPROMISE OR SOMETHING
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>>94164933

Far from their worst effort but needed to be hot chick with bare midriff and cleavage for any sales traction
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>>94165366
No.
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>>94165207
Why do energy cards always have the same "do X, gain energy" or "pay energy, do X", anyway? Sometimes both. Not even shitting on anon here, WotC's designs are banal. Surely there's some wacky shit you could do with it.

Unstable Power Core BBB
Artifact
Whenever you would gain E, gain twice that much E instead and lose that much life.

Dead Zone 1W
Enchantment
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, they may pay 1 for each counter they have. If they don't, remove that counter.

Icarus Mech R
Artifact Vehicle
Flying
Icarus Mech has +X/-X, where X is the number of E you have.
Crew 2
0/5
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>>94165341
creature - elder twink spirit
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i will never understand why you fags want coomer cards so much when you're on a device that plays riley reid videos. just jerk off to something else before you play mtg.
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>>94165861
riley reid is busted
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Dear lord Bloomburrow is the worst draft format I've ever seen
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>>94165341
>We didn't think people would use the land destruction ability on the opponent's lands
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>>94165861

Because cheesecake is a core element of nerd culture. Fantasy art has always been a juxtaposition of softcore porn, horror elements, and power dynamics and when you remove any one of those elements to facilitate broad market appeal you destroy the art of the thing.
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>>94165878
What if Bloomburrow was a set about a plane of all scantily clad women instead of animals? Would that make it a good draft format?
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>>94165934
Of course. As we all know, fantasy art has to be softcore porn, horror elements, or power dynamics. People like Tolkien were the death knell of fantasy. We NEED big titty mice and slutty lizards.
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>>94165934
I didn't enjoy Onslaught limited if that's what you're asking
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>>94165934

Unironically yes. Anthroshit has always been a revolting buboe on fantasy. The movement to take an artistic medium that is supposed to be challenging and threatening and edgy bastardize it by attempting to make it about dumbed down non-threatening subject matter is massively problematic.
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>>94165861
Thalia NEEDS to look like this
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>>94165848
I think it's fear; with the current energy cards being based around spending the very limited amounts of it that you get, you could get out of hand quickly if you introduced weirder things to do with the counters or more powerful energy gain methods.
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>>94165861
You sound Gen Z. Go watch Heavy Metal if you "don't get it".
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everyone here should move to flesh & blood
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>>94165848
Dead Zone would never exist because it allows somebody to remove poison from themselves, which is a big no-go for some reason.
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>>94166079
>tcgs need coomer art because of this one movie made in 1981
lol?
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>>94165230
>>94165912
This is why Angel of Despair is the ideal card.
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>>94166064
>Not making the cyborg an artifact creature
Come on, man.
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>>94166084
I like bolt but not that much.
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Me? I love this one.
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I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE VEXING BAUBLE
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>>94165912
>Because cheesecake is a core element of nerd culture.
If you define nerd culture as 70s/80s/90s commercial media aimed at high-IQ white male virgins, then sure, it's a core element of nerd culture. If you're defining modern MtG culture as nerd culture, then no, that's not a core element of nerd culture.
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>>94166175

Just pay mana for your spells what's the problem. I pay for my Belcher activation after all.
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>>94166199

Modern mtg is not nerd culture, no... that much should be obvious to anyone.
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>>94166027
As long as you provide safety valves, that shouldn't really be an issue though. Yes, it's hard to interact with, but that's also true of artifacts and enchantments. The only difference being that the latter are far more common. Thus the answers to them are far more common. You could do shit like:

Gremlin Scavenger UR
Creature - Gremlin
Menace
Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, siphon (move a counter from a permanent or player onto another permanent or player)
2/2

Tainted Growth 1BG
Enchantment
Whenever a permanent or player would gain counters, they gain that many minus one counters instead.

>>94166090
Sure, just make it so it only affects opponents then.
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i hope wotc bans reanimate in legacy just to fuck with reaniggers
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https://magic.gg/news/play-in-rcqs-earn-secret-lair-promos-and-qualify-for-pro-tour-3-in-2025
Pooneer sisters...
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I can't come up with an Azirius Phyrexian deck, I'm too fucking stupid. Maybe I should do mono white Phyrexians first before I try to add another color.
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>>94166479
>Azirius
Azorius*
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>>94166423
I don't play RCQs but it is sad to know Pioneer bros that do want to play them won't get a chance
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>>94166079
Would you still enjoy Heavy Metal if it had less scant babes? Airplane part doesn't even have any females and yet it's a thing of beauty.
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>>94165861
If porn is the goal then why not just make a porn card game? I’m sure people would play it
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>>94166617
TF Card Battle. Reasonably popular for what it is but what it is is bad. Someone competent should definitely jump on it, though.
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>>94166575
>Would you still enjoy Heavy Metal if it had less scant babes?
yeah probably, I don't watch music clips. I hear the music, with my ears.
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>>94166657
I made a post on /u/ about a card game based on a yuri anime. The ideas brainstormed there were pretty generic but it did give me an idea that’s worth pursuing. Maybe I will
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>>94165861
i will never understand why you fags want
>anime cards
so much when you're on a device that plays
>One piece episodes
just
>watch
some anime before you play mtg.
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>>94166733
Kek
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MTG should do an experimental beach episode set. Alternate artstyle is anime. Style it like an unset, but no acorn stamps or silver borders. Make the characters be past and present legendary creatures and planeswalkers throughout the games history, a commander masters set if you will. Characters in bikini's and swim trunks. Reprint powerful stuff, print more fire cards.

I guarantee it will be one of the best selling products made.
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>>94165861
i will never understand why you fags want
>LGBT cards
so much when you're on a device that plays
>Tranny hypnoporn
just go
>be gay
before you play mtg.
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>>94166764
they already tried that in the Ravnica Remastered where you could open alt art anime versions of popular cards
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>>94166721
There actually are a few softcore porn card games, but no one really carries them, usually have to order them direct from the manufacture
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>>94166840
>softcore porn card game isn't wildly popular
But anon told me that was how to make money??
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>>94166840
Any of them exist in english?
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>>94166867
Card games and eroticism don't go well together.
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>>94166764
>I guarantee it will be one of the best selling products made.
The only thing it would guarantee is that the Magic community will go into civil war.

The community has (rightfully) been outspoken about tolerance and respecting bodies to the degree that basically all sex-appeal has been removed from the game with zero consequences. But this isn't to say that players wouldn't love to see swimsuit Chandra balancing a bubble tea on her tits.

And so you have all the players who would love beach bods vs community leadership that is only leadership because it has been for the most part anti-bikini. And there is going to be a 100% certainty that the leadership will condemn it for virtue signalling purposes thus forcing the players to also condemn it, and the players who love glorious tits who haven't seen glorious tits in the game for a decade will refuse to bow and there's just going to be strife in every single store.

I love glorious tits. But I think those faggots with anime playmats should fuck off because that shit is legitimately inappropriate. Putting glorious tits on cards is just going to revive the sexy playmat/sleeve monster fight except those faggots will have the defence "but it's official Wizards product" and the physical spaces will tear themselves apart (where they still exist because the game is fucking dead).
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>>94167009
wtf are you saying Magic wouldn't have better sales with coomer art???
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Rwby secret lair when? The ip is up for grabs now
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>>94166764
>Reprint powerful stuff, print more fire cards.
Dude. Forgetting the anime ascetic.
If you had a set that was all Powerful stuff and/or fire stuff, AT a reasonable price. It would already be a best selling set.

For your example to work it was have to be a completely average set, with lots of reprints (but not necessarily powerful stuff, some yeah, some not) and have all the base art for cards be Anime artstyle.

... But what >>94166791 said
based on what we saw in that one Jump Start, Ravnica Remastered, and Neon Dynasty, the alts didn't really move anything.
This tactic probably would have worked pre 2010-2015. I don't think people these days give a F one way or another is something is Anime or not. It's just another art style these days.
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>>94167092
>to the degree that basically all sex-appeal has been removed from the game with zero consequences
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>>94167200
Sex appeal is not the point of that image. Empowerment is.
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>>94167173
The duality of goy
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>>94166575
Would you still enjoy X if it had less Y? Yes for most things, but why be reductive when everything plays a part in setting the whole? Why should anyone have to choose instead of enjoying the full vision put to fruition? Current MTG is both castrated and an amalgam of pandering.
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>>94167200
this is not a standard release
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>>94167185
Didn't Viz acquire the IP?
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>>94167092
>But I think those faggots with anime playmats should fuck off

>have pic related on a playmat
>play against angle shooting RCQ grinder in the last swiss round of last RCQ of the season
>he's playing burn, im playing red prison
>i have a dragon's claw in play
>he casts a roiling vortex when im already quite low
>consider my options and the only play i have is to hope that he misplays, otherwise i die
>cast sorcerous spyglass, holding the card waiting for him to pass priority then placing it on the table when he does so
>"ill respond to the trigger"
>"you cant, it's a replacement ability"
>he loses and vocalizes his annoyance
>outrace him next game
>tells me to get a different playmat after the game ends because that one is "creepy as fuck"
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>>94167273
>idolshit
He was correct
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>>94167273
That's fucking disgusting
She's getting sauce all over the bed!
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>>94167273
Yeah, I'm thinking you should fuck off.
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It's not even the disappearance of cheesecake.The removal of the boob window from >>94166099
is just the beginning.
>>94167200
I appreciate the joke aspect with the name of the card. But the gay communitty has gone too far when pride events have turne to full blown street orgies sometimes.
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CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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>>94167359
wheres legacy?
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>>94164897
>Here are, as I can see it and it seems like everyone agrees, the consequences of being mean to (literal faggots in my collectible card game):
>-Some well meaning, unaware folks get harassed, realize why, and are inconvenienced enough to change their faggy manerisms.
>-Faggots aren't comfortable annoying everyone around them anymore
I, for one, applaud the admission that gatekeeping is good actually
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>>94167419
Based. White supremacists should never feel safe in any hobby.
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>>94166175
well you're in luck since it just got restricted in vintage
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>>94167399
You mean Modern with reserve list cards, right?
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>>94167173
Jooish porn brainwashing is effective for a reason
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>>94167520
erm the pillars of the format are FoW, daze, brainstorm, ponder, wasteland and ancient tomb all of which are not reserved list cards so no I don't mean modern with reserved list cards chud, I mean legacy
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>>94167463
Why wouldn't I feel safe? What are you going to do, whine at me?
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>>94167543
4 Wasteland
8 fetches
6 fetchables
4 FoW
4 Daze
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 copies of some kind of removal
4-8 copies of whatever broken tempo 1-2 drops are currently legal printed within the past 5 years
2-4 copies of whatever broken delve payoff is currently legal printed within the past 5 years
Here's your legacy deck bro
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>>94165149
Thats not illegible, i had no difficulty reading it
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>>94167588
You're illegible.
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>>94167585
That's pretty cool but how do you like my original brew?
4x Ancient Tomb
4x City of Traitors
4x Chrome Mox
4x Trinisphere
4x Chalice of the Void
~12x 2{Color} beaters
~6x basic lands of the color you're running
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>>94167585
>>94167610
both lose to my
4x Mox Diamond
4x Life from the Loam
4x Dark Depths
4x Thespian Stage
4x Crop Rotation
4x Exploration
1 of every broken land ever printed
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>>94167629
Gigabased lands deck enjoyer
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What's the deal with these triangles that I've seen in a couple of different arts?
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>>94167863
MCU reference
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>>94167629
my brother
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6UweimoEdI
folks
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>>94167863
Common pedophile dogwhistle
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>>94167863
it's a shape, anon
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>>94167863
Seems to be the general shape they're using for Omenpaths, or at least the inter-planar ones. Not fixed as that, but generally seems to be what they're going for.
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Can they ever be a real deck?
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energybros already got a legacy deck it they ban a bunch of energy stuff in modern lol
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>>94168028
>>94168098
Thank you for the actual answer
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Can Deathrite Shaman ever be unbanned in Legacy?
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>>94168285
in pauper, sure
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When can a combat trick be used to give a creature flying and have it dodge a blocker? Do I have to do it before blockers are declared?
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>>94168321
Yes
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>>94168308
in terms of power level it definitely can but they simply don't unban things very often

>>94168321
>When can a combat trick be used to give a creature flying and have it dodge a blocker?
anytime before blockers are declared
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>>94168286
>hey, I need a new Legacy deck
>what if we took Modern Energy and jammed Brainstorm/Daze/FoW into it?
>sounds good enough to me
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>>94164558
Cedric Phillips > who gives a flying fuck?
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>>94168308
It should be.
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NEW BREW ALERT!!!!

Does it instantaneously crumble to 'yard hate? Yes.
Does it nuke its own card advantage to even do anything? Yes.
Is it way too slow to even compete against the insufferable trashfire that is Prowess? Yes.

But GAT DAYUM if Corpse Cobbling seven decayed zombie tokens before they sacrifice themselves, all from the garveyard, the best damn feeling in the world.
Hitting the triple Say Its Name off of fast self mills is also very satisfying. FOR FREE!!!!!
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>>94168501
Why not run patchwork beastie #5-8?
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>>94164558
Ceric is the goat.
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>>94168540
Beastie is an Artifact for Delirium.
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>>94168540
>>94168548
And also Beastie is easier to Corpse Cobble. Bonnet is in the Considering.
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>>94168540
I have considered dropping Vantress Gargoyle though, and Bonnet is a good alternative. Maybe it'd be Beastie 5-6 at best..
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>>94168565
Well in that case, why aren't you running grim flayer #5-8?
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>>94168501
I wanna brew like skellyfag but I'm bad at it and also I spend most of my hobby time building thematic decks for casual games

Speaking of, I've noticed how barely any of the Bloomburrow tribes actually form coherent tribal decks in and of themselves. It's weird and really annoying.
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>>94168587
>Saddle
nah senpai
... but maybe. I'll add it to considering.
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>>94168598
>tap a shitty decay token to saddle
>burrowfiend mills and also gets +10/+10 because you have a ton of creatures in the yard
>swing in, then eat it with cobble to make the stats permanent
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>I wanna brew like skellyfag
Speaking of me, I am sad to report that the available Skeletons are, in fact, fucking garbage, and tests have slowly pulled the list away from them.
But I'm happy to report the deck is a total menace. Some unholy hybrid between pseudo-tribal aggro and unstoppable midrange value. I'm still working on the sideboard. Things are shifting.

Dreadnight + Underdog is a truly vile value engine. Pawpatch + Dreadnight having natural Trample means Vorpal Sword has a comfy home in the deck again.

I wish the skeletons were good. I really do. But, it turns out that the things that make Skeletons (Corpses, Case + Mutavault) are so good they can carry the tribal party all by themselves.

Also,
BLUE FUCKING SKELETONS ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME WOTC
TWO. TWO BLUE SLEKETONS. BLUE.
BLUE SKELETONS.
YOU FUCKING RETARDS AHHHHHH
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>>94168639
They will never be forgiven
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absolutely NO idea of how to implement Nihil. in the meantime have this
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>>94167863
It's easy for AI to make
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>>94168687
A custom card poster who has a cool, interesting idea? In the /mtg/ general?
It's more likely than you think...
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Man I have to talk about this fucker again. Not just because Pawpatch Recruit helps to make it even more disgusting.

It's just so ridiculous. Occasionally it's a brick, but holy fuck when it's good is it good. Sometimes the Menace anthem just clean pushes through lethal.
Sometimes they keep a slow hand, or a hand with only one blocker, and oops it's +6 card advantage on turn 4.

I honestly can't believe how powerful this card is, and how it's slipped under the radar. This thing is FUCKING NUTS.
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>>94168725
I remember seeing it as a 1 of in dredge and thinking that it was nuts.
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>>94168750
The bottom of its power is 1G to cantrip and tuck an evasion anthem away for later.

The best case scenario ranges from enabling lethal, to shredding their entire hand in one swing, to pushing singlehandedly swinging a half dozen points of card advantage.

I definitely don't think it's a 4-of, as the odds of it being at its lowest power increases with the more copies you have (Fewer slots for bodies = fewer bodies to swing) but gat dayum whenever it lands, it feels like a nuke.
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>>94168725
>google Aftermath for the refresher
>most of the top results are MoM Aftermath
Also just now realizing none of those cards had Aftermath. Wizards is a fucking joke.
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>>94168591

it's because the card are designed together and then split up into different sets. used to be more coherent with blocks released in sequence but now you get retarded nonsense like lucky clover rotating out of standard before the 2nd cycle of adventures get printed.

it is a greed-based policy; FFG did it with every single cycle of cards in all of their games and the goal is just to make you have to buy everything.
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>>94168796
>Wizards is a fucking joke.
Jokes are supposed to be funny. WotC isn't a joke, it's just pathetic.
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>>94168725
>I honestly can't believe how powerful this card is, and how it's slipped under the radar.
it was a very popular inclusion when bgx graveyard decks were a thing back in the early 2019~2020 era, it fell out of use because those decks got cards banned and the graveyard became more of a wincon than something to pull value from
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>>94168774
It's one of those cards that is crazy as a 1 of but gets forgotten about because it's never played as a playset. I wonder how many brews and decks after its printing would have benefited from a copy or two but never included it
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>>94168639
>moss pit skeleton
Put Insidious Roots in there :D
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>>94168892
Roots just isn't very good.
Moss-Pit is an occasional 6/5 haster to close out games.
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>>94167273
the other anons are wrong and koume is based
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>>94168724
what did you like about it, anon?
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>>94168362
Since modern horizons has been trying (and succeeding I'd say) at making Modern into Legacy but gay, it's no wonder you can just port some of the decks right into Legacy nowadays
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>>94168687
Can't say I know much about the games other than Mili makes good music.
The Love one has a missing 'attacks' for its first trigger. The back side feels like it's intended to transform back for some reason, but I'm sure that lore reasons say no. You may also want to remove the hysteria counters as a part of the transformation if the back doesn't care about them.
Probably possible to pull off some oneshots with the right deck and those sword tokens. It should probably be specified that they're colorless.
The Happiness one, if you play it on curve and swing every turn puts you on...an 8 turn timer, I think? in 60 card formats, and maybe 9 turns with 100 cards. Some part of me wants to say some of them should be free for maximum greed, maybe one per turn, but that might be a bit much.
Green should come right after the p/t when describing The Hermit token, not after the creature types. (And should be 'creature token', not the other way around.) And on the back, it would be checking if The Hermit is on the battlefield, not in it. That said, I'm not sure you need to check given the trigger afterwards. It couldn't attack if The Hermit wasn't on the battlefield outside of the token being phased out or something.
Seems like a sad story.
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>>94168892
The roots version is a lot slower

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/B23-6yktdEaPCbyp4K3D2Q
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>>94162420
>what decks/formats have you been playing recently?
i fucking LOVE this deck
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So in retrospect, what combo was more broken, geological appraiser or Amalia? Personally I don't think appraiser combo was particularly broken. You were pretty much fucked if you didn't draw appraiser (or got hit with thoughtseize) whereas with Amalia you could play a midrange game if you didn't get to pull the combo
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>>94169112
Why do these lists not run Doorkeeper Thrull
It's what pushes the Legacy version over the edge into playability. Is it something to do with creature removal being more ubiquitous in block constructed?
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>>94169112
The one ring?
CHECK.
Looks like Modern is back on the menu, boys.
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>>94169168
4x Dress Down 4x Consign is probably enough of that effect.
Doorkeeper would compete for slots with those (I guess Modern is more of a One Ring format, so Consign must be nice mainboard).
That's also a Control list with sweepers and Mind Sculptors, not a Legacy Wasteland/Daze Tempo deck like Stiflenaught.
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>>94169112

mountain discard ssg ritual bloodmoon
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>>94169040
>turn 0, draw 7 (53 left)
>turn 1, draw 0/1 (52 left)
>turn 2, draw 1 (51 left)
>turn 3, draws 1, impulse draws 1 (49)
>turn 4, draws 1, impulse draws 2 (46)
>turn 5, draws 1, impulse draws 3 and transforms (42)
>turn 6, draws 1, impulse draws 3 (38)
>turn 7, draws 1, impulse draws 6 (31)
>turn 8, draws 1, impulse draws 12 (18)
>turn 9, draws 1, impulse draws 24 (empty library)
>die by turn 10
I think it's less bad then it sounds, honestly. Gives enough draw that you don't need anything else and you're giving impulse draw 12 to izzet.
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>>94169166
At least Amalia wasn't a weirdo that poses like a fag
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I propose community dubbing the one ring as the cock ring
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>>94169166
Appraiser was good but amalia was more consistent, resilient and faster. For some reason reddit thinks that decks that are harder to interact with are more fair than all in combo decks and it's a joke that appraiser got banned before amalia
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>>94169209
Taken
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Wait wtf why is baleful strix legal in historic but not modern?
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>>94169204
Oh, I was mentally doubling the impulse on turn 6, making me one turn ahead. My bad.
It is a strong amount of draw, for sure. Any deck with it had better have some good mana to play with, though.
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>>94169233
Anon, nine sol rings only costs {1} to cast.
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>>94169237
because it was printed for commander
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>>94169166
appraiser got banned because losing to a creature resolving with virtually no setup wasn't considered engaging gameplay by wotc
amalia got banned mainly because of logistics, the best way to stop amalia from doing the thing was forcing a draw and having a deck like that be top tier was hell for tournament play
neither deck really achieved "broken" status, they both just were a huge pain in the ass to have around

if you want to know what a recent broken banned deck was like, look up valki cascade decks before the errata, shit was hilarious
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Should I make a Toxin Phyrexian deck in MtG Arena Standard or is 2023 decks about to be filtered out of Standard?
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>>94169473
>Toxin Phyrexian deck
Sounds cool
>Arena
Sounds gay
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>>94169494
>Sounds gay
You can blame Commander taking over Paper
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>>94169522
Eventually I will have enough different pioneer decks built that "I don't have a deck for that format" will no longer be a valid excuse :D
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>>94169522
Commander isn't responsible for WotC fucking up Arena. If it wasn't a colossal piece of shit, we wouldn't hate it so much.
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>>94169237
Historic is just a dumping ground for regular set commander reprints. WotC gave up on trying to curate the format years ago.
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>>94169654
well it is free.
I just hate that the software is so fucking poorly optimized.
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>>94169522
No, I'll blame WotC for shitting and pissing on every format. Commander just happens to be a format that thrives amid shit and piss. I suppose the knowledge that at least something is thriving despite they actions encourages WotC to keep shitting and pissing even harder.
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How much do you think one of these would cost?
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>>94169799
¥222222
https://jp.mercari.com/item/m17565592373
Or $1 from your preferred proxy vendor.
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I equip Axe of Despair on Gemini Elf
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>>94170050
mst
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>>94169217
The real reason Appraiser got banned first was because it was an uncommon so they made little money on it compares to Amalia
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>>94169811
nta but that's surprisingly cheap
isn't this shit extremely rare?
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>>94167173
>also /mtgpol/: what do you mean i can't play with my "liliana and chandra making out naked on a bed" playmat at my flgs? literally 1984!
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>>94162495
Which one?
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>>94170319
its 1500€ for a card printed in current year it cant get more expensive than that other than a one out of one one ring or 420 or 069 serial format staple
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i have absolutely no desire to play this game anymore, yet i still buy cards
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I want to get into Legacy to play Doomsday
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>>94170396
This but unironically
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What card triggers this reaction?
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>>94170658
sunfall
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>>94170612
be prepared for a lot of losing
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Did Arena put out a shadow update because I noticed I very rarely encounter mono-red in unranked. I only saw it once and never again.
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>>94162987
That's pretty great. Remove bo1 it's not magic.
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Are green and red phyrexian creatures good?
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>>94171114
Yes
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>>94170658
pic related
>>94171096
They can change card weights without an update, so maybe they set Leyline or a mouse from 18 to 400 or something.
>>94166423
This is not good for my store. We're trying to grow, and our players love Pioneer and dislike Standard. They're also forcing some event (store champs?) to be Standard only. Even freely lending meta decks, we bleed players on Standard nights.
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>>94171114
The best Phrexian colors are white, black and green.
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>>94169040
>The back side feels like it's intended to transform back for some reason, but I'm sure that lore reasons say no
Actually they all should be able to transform back. Love one especially, because the lore of dealing with them in both games is helping it come back to itself and remember what it fought for and all that.
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>>94162525
Combos have been in magic. It's fine.
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>>94166764
Gender bent Nicol Bolas dragon god in a bikini smiting the ice cream stand. That's what I want.
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>>94171114
Chris is one of the best monsters in pauper
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>>94170319
how many Eternal weekends are there?
if 3 (Asia/Europe/America) then I guess there will 72 non-foil ones and 24 foil ones printed, given to the top 32 of each.
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>>94168501
I dunno, brewbro. The skeleton one was way more interesting and fun looking.
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>>94168974
Not that anon, but a forced transformation creature that has to have really specific deckbuilding limitations to be viable is really interesting from a design point alone, especially since WotC has been making creature so good in the last 5-10 years or so.

The greed one especially feels like a really interesting take on the current trend of "red draw" we've been having recently.
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STANDARD IS LITERALLY, LITERALLY JUST MONORED MIRROR MATCHES WHERE THE GAME ENDS ON TURN 2.
THIS IS ACTUALLY WORSE THAN YGO.
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>>94171520
Anon, I simply can't play it in my lgs because local meta is 80% removal.
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>>94170658

mindslaver
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>>94171327

plus another ten or twenty thousand distributed around hasbro employees and wotc warehouses. you seriously believe they print cards on an individual basis? I have a bridge to sell you.
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>>94164787
>>94165030
>tfw was part of the pauper blitz on magicon barcelona
Stole so many EDH binders and tossed them in the ebro lmao
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>>94171599

>retrieve tiled binder from eurotrash river
>find like seven more
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Why is he talking to ants? Is he stupid?
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>>94171520
>look up standard tournament results
>there isn't a single monored deck in the top 8 of any tournament
you're playing Arena bo1 against people doing dailies on their phones, aren't you?
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Trying to brew Big Red for standard. I'm having good results so far. Screaming Nemesis and Pyroclasm are great together, like the old Skred decks with Boros Reckoner. I was also considering Geological Appraiser, but not sure if he is worth it. I haven't started working on a sideboard yet. Any thoughts or suggestions?
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>>94171693
Back when I was brewing Big Red I played a lot of Bonehoard Dracosaur. It has to stick but it shits out genuinely absurd amounts of value when it does.
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>>94171674
How do you make a Duskmourn demon deck?
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>>94171748
I considered him, but the lack of ETB effect is garbage. I might test him as a two of.
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>>94171801
Unholy Annex could be good.
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>>94171218
soulflayer my beloved
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is anyone here a judge? Is it worth it to try to become a judge in the year 2024?
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>>94171973

Is someone else paying for it?
Do you work at a game store?
Do you enjoy engaging in intrinsically negative purile demisocial interactions with the literal worst human beings on earth?

If you answered yes to all 3 it might be worth becoming a judge but still probably not.
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What was the logic?
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>>94172240

Dsk needed a banner mythic and everything else in the set is going straight to bulk, do not pass go do not spend any time as binder chaff
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I quit edh after the RC shat the bed
I'm looking into other formats, I had no idea things had gotten so bad.
Can I just get a non-rotating format without doctor who and lotr cards? Is that really too much to ask?
>muh pioneer
Yeah that horizon set is already being worked on, miss me with that shit
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>>94172304
Pioneer lost its shine for me when they killed Amalia, the last actually interesting combo deck. Now it's just UW Control and Phoenix.
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>>94172310
the last big Pioneer tournament (a couple days ago) had 1 Phoenix 0 UW Control in the Top 16.
where do you people get your perception from?
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>>94172304
>Can I just get a non-rotating format without doctor who and lotr cards?
pioneer
>Yeah that horizon set is already being worked on, miss me with that shit
that still doesn't change the fact that pioneer is the only nonrotating format without UB sets
and if that's seriously your argument, you should just quit the game because even if they made an entire new nonrotating, standard cards only format tomorrow, at some point in the future they are going to introduce UB cards simply because they make a lot of money
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>>94172310
It's obvious that some nepotistic bigwig declared that pioneer is just going to be treasure cruise: the format and then forgot about it
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foundations is going to make standard effectively non-rotating
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>>94172310
>muh Amalia
Either you swung for 20 or forced a draw it was a shit deck and everyone knows it
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I've decided that with Standard becoming a non-rotating format, it's time to leave the dying format pioneer.
Where do I start to learn about Standard?
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>>94172304
>horizons
Unironically selling all my cards if they do this
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>>94172434
Local game store, followed by mtggoldfish or mtgtop8. Learn your local meta, then learn the wider meta. Discount Arena lists (even Best-of-3) and MTGO league 5-0's, because they're way more aggressive and based on people jamming a ton of leagues and forcing one of them to stick, something you can't do at a paper tournament.
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>>94172703
>if
when*
it literally just is a matter of time, no format stays pure forever
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>>94172415
I don't give a shit, it was the last deck I enjoyed playing and the only good Abzan deck in Pioneer.
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>>94172718
>local game store
Do people actually play something besides EDH at your LGS? Magic is fucking dead in paper. It comes alive briefly during prerelease but even those numbers are down.
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>>94165830
They could have made the same art but give it huge boobs and it would still sell
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>>94172766
I have two thriving game stores without living in a city, so maybe I'm lucky. You can replace local meta with Arena/MTGO, but still pay most attention to the type of matches you'll actually be playing, as they all have faster or slower metas.
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>>94171223
Oh yeah? That's neat. In that case, the hysteria counters would definitely need to be removed. Not sure how the others would flip back, though, since they have fairly distinct deaths laid out. I only mentioned transforming back for Love because it felt cyclical to be managing your life total and perhaps being exiled and returning front face up after the board wipe trigger would be the right way for it. Probably wouldn't need the stun counters in that case, though.
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>>94172304
you have to learn how to adapt, anon.
>>94172434
look up Gruul Leyline, buy those cards. decks fairly straightforward, you shouldn't have any problems.
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>>94166791
I bought that one in the special foil version just because of the art, never played the card.
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>>94172738
Frontierchads stay winning
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>>94173114
I fear the Leyline ban
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>>94173137
It's a $3 card and red prowess will still be among the best decks in standard without it.

If you don't want leyline.dec play rakdos with unstoppable slasher or whatever
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>>94172703
They already soft confirmed it a while ago and said straight to pioneer product is something theyre working on
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Okay hear me out
>ozolith
>nine lives familiar
>all will be one
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>>94172263
but it's a rare
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>>94173270
One of these days someone will find a deck for All Will Be One but it will not be soon
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>>94173307
If a card gets banned in arena you keep the cards for use in other formats and get refunded the wildcards iirc
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>>94172434
STAY WITH ME THEY HAVENT ANNOUNCED THE GP FORMATS DONT GIVE UP
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>>94173675
I genuinely see this as the end for Pioneer and Legacy. Now that WotC has control of Commander this game is fucking cooked.
Modern and Standard will be kept on life support as a facade of them supporting other formats when in reality Standard will be the dumpster for Commander theme sets and Modern will be the dumpster for the most pushed Commander cards.
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>>94169384
Amalia had an insane matchup spread and probably would have been too good or tier 1 in modern at some point (compare it to the shifty vizier + druid + mana sink combo that used to be played) It's a 2 card creature combo that doesn't need to untap and doesn't need to play a bad 3rd card
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>>94173324
There was a memey combo deck people built with that 1000 year calendar card
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Why did they mess up pioneer with bans if they end up abandoning the format anyways?
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>>94173753
Who is abandoning Pioneer? Why are they abandoning Pioneer? And why we just had regionals if they are abandoning the Pioneer?
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Should I play Dimir Death's Shadow for Modern tonight, or should I play Dimir Murktide?
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Ledger Shredder is one of the most broken cards ever printed.
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>>94173858
Nuh uh
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>>94168362
Legacy is quite literally mh3 set constructed atm
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>anon says to play gruul aggro and abuse leyline
>reddit faggots say gruul aggro has no game. mono white is the real shit
>friends tell me to stop with Standard and come to Commander
hmmm
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>>94173936
no anon has ever said to play aggro
100% of anons recommend not playing MTG at all
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>>94173936
Split the difference and play otterstorm
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>>94173696
I want to know how Legacy could be fixed outside the obvious and preferrable solution of banning all cards from MH sets. With WotC's (now explicit) goal of making the game centered on creatures we end up with the awful situation of the same tempo spells supporting a rotating cast of cheap, efficient creatures - DRC, Dreadhorde Arcanist, Psychic Frog - with cheat strategies such as reanimation or S&T also benefitting from the printing of high cost monsters with a gorillion lines of text.

Then, you have the stompy decks. Every time a new set is released I search for creatures with a cost of 2{C} because each set has a reasonable chance of containing some new broken creature, or some other 3 mana spell.
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>>94173945
If you would take a look at exhibit A >>94173114

>>94173957
I plan on winning games, not losing them all due to playing the cute animal .dec
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>>94173979
>I plan on winning games

Bad plan but stormsplitter is a real deck anyway
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It still doesn't work.
X=4 means X does not equal 1, nor 2, nor 3.
Doing all of the above does nothing.
This card just doesn't do anything if you cast it X=4.
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>>94174016
I'm assuming this anon is doing a funny by parroting the posts made by retards when this card was first revealed
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>>94174025
"The above" all check the value of X.
X is not the value they check for, so nothing happens.
It literally just doesn't work.
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What block cube should I build?

I'm thinking of theros block, because I like the theme.
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>>94174048
OG Kamigawa cube is pretty fun as you can exclude all the cards that ruined the format.
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>>94173753
>Why did they mess up pioneer with bans
they didn't, removing Sorin and Amalia was good for the format
>if they end up abandoning the format anyways?
we had 3 or 4 pioneer RCQs already, not having one for a year sucks for compfags but it's not the end of the world
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>>94174048
OG Innistrad
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>>94173968
Unironically begin by just ripping off the reserved list entirely. Reprint true duals and cut down barrier to entry on the format. Making the format cheaper to play will get more people interested for ZERO effort in format curation.
Now that WotC has direct control of Commander they no longer need the pretense of printing cards direct to Legacy (or Modern) to sell mega-pushed cards aimed at what's basically shitty Vintage. They can print these cards direct to Commander so we don't get a repeat of shit like True-Name Nemesis. Again, ZERO effort step to improving the format. Legacy is the 2nd deadest format right now you can NOT argue ejecting these cards from Legacy will kill their selling power.
If WotC wants to keep rolling Commander product into other sets MAKE MORE USE OF THE COMMANDER SHIELD!!! Literally use it as a shield for other formats so horseshit like Nadu doesn't bleed into the rest of the game. If the card is designed for Commander and sees a last-minute change, it goes into the Commander block.
If WotC is feeling crazy they can start by analyzing every set after and including WAR and dump a slaughter banlist.
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>>94173329
Love how you implemented its concept of "too much of a good thing".
Both its effects include itself though, which I'm not sure you intended.

Anyway:
>Whenever a creature with two or more +1/+1 counters on it attacks or blocks, its controller sacrifices it and target opponent loses life equal to that creature's mana value.
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>>94174048
Alara is for chads
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>>94173329
Remove flying and give it shroud since it cant take damage from ranged weapons in game
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>>94174048
>What block cube should I build?
Lorwyn/Shadowmoor/Bloomburrow
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>>94174224

The idea of paying $500 for an utterly thrashed revised dual land does not appeal to anyone. Duals are only a matter of time. They'll just give them the same treatment as the mh3 medallions; give them absolutely abhorrent diarrhea-tier art and border so the OGs retain value.
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>>94174594
Are you sure about that?
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>>94174650
Are over 90% of the people into Magic complete pants on head retards cause I see this shit all the time and this isn't even the most retarded thing I've seen
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>TQ
duel commander on mtgo and standard on arena
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>>94174650

You know I just keep forgetting.
Thank you for the reminder.
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>>94174650
I once received a shockland in a similar condition. It taught me to take the time and set the minimum condition to good at least.
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>>94168687
My hate of Commander goes to the point that whenever I read Legendary in a custom card I stop reading.
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>>94174650
This is why the chinaman gets my money
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>>94174650
Shit dude that's funny.
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/Ccg/, I have come out with a new (maybe I am wrong) unique mechanic, it has some commonalities with attractions as it uses a different singleton deck of seal token cards. It's called Entombed: when a permanent with entombed enters, you put an amount of face down (or face up in some cases) random seals under the card, then when an action is performed that coincides with a seal, it gets broken and exiled (no stack) When the last seal is broken, you get an effect. I think it's a flavourful mechanic and maybe somebody else would enjoy playing with it.
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>>94174914
>/Ccg/, I have come out with a new (maybe I am wrong) unique mechanic, it has some commonalities with attractions as it uses a different singleton deck of seal token cards.
>uses.... different deck...
Use the sideboard. And the Seals need a card type (Enchantment seems reasonable)

I don't mind it, but it's not significantly different than just having a creature transform on a particular trigger.
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>>94174914
I'd rather enter the fucking dungeon
Nah for real though that's actually a neat idea you should post a card so we have a better idea of where you're going
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>>94174914
>>94174931
Yea that's not bad, I wouldn't use sideboard, unique deck is fine. It's bad if you're pretending like you're Hasbro because I don't want Hasbro to do any more crap like this but for homebrew purposes it's cool. I assume it relies on having a standardized seal deck (1 of each seal?), which could create honesty issues if Hasbro were to post it, but again for homebrew it's fine.
I don't know why they'd be face-down though.
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>>94175069
>, I wouldn't use sideboard, unique deck is fine
Unique deck is not fine. Stop being a retard.
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>>94175084
lol
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>>94174224
>shitty vintage

you have no clue what you're talking about
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>>94175166
Commander had Black Lotus legal for 4 years don't lie to yourself. It's shitty Vintage that only exists because most people collectively agree to sandbag in deckbuilding.
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>>94175197
you have never played legacy or vintage and it shows so why bother talking about things you dont know anything about with full confidence?
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>>94175166
He's not wrong, cEDH is shittier vintage
Atleast in vintage I can play the most based deck around (manaless dredge) but cEDH is even less fun and wears out its welcome faster
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>>94175197
sry I thought you were calling legacy a shittier vintage, not commander
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>>94174931
It needs to be singleton and random or you could put only a type of seal and they would banish all at the same type. It can also work as a quest type mechanic, but I think it is more interesting as a semi-hidden mechanic where your opponent can involuntarily help you if you can't get rid of a specific seal by yourself.
>>94175041
This is as complicated as it can get. The basic idea is a big bad monster that has been jailed under several seals.A land with transform is a good representation, but I'll play with the idea and try to do at least a color pie cycle.
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>>94175289
Since you have six of them you could use a d6. Just a thought. MtG already uses six-siders and it already uses tokens so at that point you'd just need a rules tip card mapping numbers to seals (or a custom die. Or a repurposed custom die from some other game that has 6 abstract symbols).
Traumatic amnesia is a mess, I'd workshop it and try to cull simpler designs out of it, not every card has to do everything.
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>>94175289
ngl anon I don't fuck with your vision
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>>94175289
>It needs to be singleton and random or you could put only a type of seal and they would banish all at the same type
A consideration:
If your idea doesn't work within the rules of MTG, it is a bad idea.

Just make Seals a type of Enchantment that blows itself up to do something cool on a particular trigger. Maybe integrate a learn/lesson mechanic into them if you really want the out-of-game interactions.
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>>94175289
>>94175341
Honestly?
As fucking terrible and clunky a solution this is, I don't mind the six Seals being tokens and rolling 1d6 to determine which one you hit.

You could even go for the WOE flip-token style they used for Roles, to avoid the annoyance of having to find them.
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>>94175289
>d put only a type of seal and they would banish all at the same type. It can also work as a quest type mechanic, but I think it is more interesting as a semi-hidden mechanic where your opponent can involuntarily help you if you can't get rid of a specific seal by yourself.
Another thing, I don't know if I'd do anything that would ask your opponents to remove seals, but if I did then I'd deal multiple seals and say that the opponent only has to break one of them, it's more fair that way because there's a bunch of shit that not every deck can do. I'd also make sure it was something that could potentially be played around (not countering a spell and exiling their whole hand lmao).
Synergy wise I assume you understand that the decks which want to break seals are diametrically opposed to the decks which want to prevent seals from being broken. No deck is ever going to do both unless it's also full of "get something whenever you make a seal" type support effects.
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>>94175431
My greentext there was an accident and has no specific relevance.
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>>94175289
Requiring people to have a different deck is the reason stickers and attractions got banned in Vintage. It's not fun preparing an entire set of cards because you might copy someone else's effect that relies on them.
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>>94173270
>...and sent Phyrexian perfection coursing across the Multiverse.
>Where it was immediately, soundly defeated in every location where it arrived.
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>>94175582
Maybe I'll just put 4x calendar in Nykthos and try to hit AWBO with Storm :D
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Put me in coach.
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>>94175730
Fuck this guy and his false color scheme.
I did kind of dig the dumb subterranean merfolk though, it's cute that they used to put in that kind of effort when inserting things that don't belong on a given plane.
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>>94174224
>Unironically begin by just ripping off the reserved list entirely. Reprint true duals and cut down barrier to entry on the format. Making the format cheaper to play will get more people interested for ZERO effort in format curation.
I've been for killing the Reserve List forever. But I am against it now because it will kill the stores.

What the RC did with the EDH bans fucking stabbed the stores in the eyes. Thousands of dollars just evaporated in an instant, imagine a year's rent just gone like that. Ten, twenty years ago this would have been nothing just as removing the RL back then would have been nothing because the game and stores were strong then. But now stores are weak, and the only thing keeping them somewhat alive is EDH. Whatever damage removing the RL does to stores will not be outweighed by how many people return to play Legacy/Vintage. In order for Wizards to actually kill the RL at this moment and revive the formats as you say, they have to reprint everything in one massive product, not just the RL cards but all the staples, that is not in limited supply, and at regular booster prices - it has to be consumer friendly and store friendly and NOT the same price gouging horseshit that was 30th.

And it's never going to happen. Wizards won't kill the RL and protect the stores at the same time. Just like they couldn't be fucking bothered to make 30th accessible to anybody.
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>>94175822

stores can get fucked. events can fire at community centers, VFWs, libraries, malls, anywhere. stores serve no purpose other than creating a safe space for the wrong kinds of people.
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>>94175822
>>94174224
They probably won't reprint true duals but they might make something strictly better than true duals. They only care about a format when they're trying to rotate it.
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