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The Amazing Spider-Man edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-26-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement

>News
The 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:
https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule

Metagame Mentor: The Scariest Standard Strategies in Duskmourn:
https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-scariest-standard-strategies-in-duskmourn

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck lists
https://www.mtgtop8.com/
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>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
https://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share Cubes
https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
https://untap.in/
https://dr4ft.info/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>Previously:
>>94187593

>TQ
What are your hopes for the upcoming Spider-Man set?
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>>94195197
>TQ
None
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I hope none of the cards are playable outside commander
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>>94195217
Sorry Anon, the Spider-Mobile is going to be a format staple.
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>>94195217
They made a legacy playable cards in an unset, they will make a pushed spider-man to sell the set.
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>>94195197
>TQ
Being frustrated that Spiderman cards don't synergize with spider cards
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>born too late to buy black lotus for $100
>born too early to buy black lotus for $100
>born just in time to play Wakanda Forever
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>>94195197
>What are your hopes for the upcoming Spider-Man set?
Goblin Grenade
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Wolverine and Storm can now fight Ryu and Chun Li in Edh. I can't wait to play Marvel vs Capcom
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>>94195240
lets face it, you wouldn't have had the foresight to buy a black lotus for 100$ and if you did you'd have sold it when it got to 1000$
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>>94195254
>Wolverine and Storm can now fight Ryu and Chun Li in Edh, Legacy and Vintage
fixed this for you.
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>>94195259
>blocks you're path
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>>94195256
I've played played MTG when revised duals were <$100 ea except Underground Sea and thought these people are pants on heads retarded to waste this much money on cardboard. I played Dredge btw.
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>>94195259
>Wolverine vs Ryu vs Gandalf vs Megatron
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>>94195266
banned
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>>94195261
>Forcefield is the same price as Black Lotus and Moxen
Holy shit, what a time to be alive.
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>>94195284
>dredge player

checks out
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>>94195197
>>94195208
>>94195235
>>94195253
I remembered when cards that reference other IPs were one-offs. *sigh*
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Can you guys help me come up with a blue and white Phyrexian Artifact creature deck? This is what I came up with what Phyrexian cards I own.
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>>94195345
I for one love the spider man set. Finally a set I can skip without feeling like I'm missing out on anything.
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>>94195235
There's a very real possibility that Spider-Man cards will have the Spider creature type, will have Reach, and will be present in all colors including Green, so we shall see.
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>>94195464
Did we ever have a set where most creatures shared the same type?
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>>94195451
>kitchen table arena
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>>94195473
Phyrexia: All Will be One.
And do note that only Spider-Man and other spider-themed heroes will probably have the Spider type, so most of the set won't be Spiders. There will probably be far more Spider-Man villains.
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I just learned that you don't have to name the card out loud on predict before it starts resolving
I thought all choises need to be made on cast or is it literally for "choosing" for example modes for a spell like split up?
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>>94195502
I'm a F2P
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>>94195197
If the Marvel set ends up flopping, what are the odds employees get laid off since the Marvel IP is really expensive?
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>>94195526
play on xmage and stop falling for freemium slop clients
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>>94195509
>InB4 we get Spiderman memes on MTG cards
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>>94195451
You've been asking for a long time. There is a reason why nobody is helping you. Nobody wants to waste their time helping you build a deck that is garbage just to cater to your narrow desire and it's selfish for you to ask this of anybody online or in real life. If anybody helps you, you will just come back and ask again, wasting everyone's very limited charity.

If you want this deck built, use scryfall and build it yourself. Also, everyone is hostile to Arena here.

If you have any response beyond acknowledging and accepting what I've said, don't bother saying it. We all know what you will likely say because we've all been where you are right now and the best thing you can do is learn to not beg for people's expertise. Good luck.
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>The marvel set is actually marvel sets
We are so fucking done for.
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>>94195782
Is Marvel really this popular? I couldn't care less, haven't seen any of the movies, just read some comics when I was a kid.
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>>94195197
Leyline of sanctity+shaku: infinite untap?

If not, why?
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>>94195817
>Is Marvel really this popular?
Fuck no, it's popularity fucking dropped hard after Endgame.
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>>94195583
>Also, everyone is hostile to Arena here
Why is that though?
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>>94195817
Like Anon said they dropped off hard after Endgame but a lot of the people who work on Magic are unironically soiboys and turbo virgins who eat Marvel slop by the bucket full
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>>94195848
arenababies are dunningkrugger as fuck and 90% of them play best of 1 magic which isn't even real magic
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>>94195855
Yep, look at what happened to the devs of XCOM 1 and 2. Instead of making XCOM 3, they make a card based strategy game called Midnight Suns. Most of the game is all this Fire Emblem hang out crap. And no romance with characters despite many chances for one because Disney said no. And despite being the magical side of Marvel, only 3 or 4 have Magic. The rest is just the fucking Avengers. And only 3 Midnight Sons.
Game flopped that the sequel/expansion bait they were planning in the credits and DLC with Dracula and Doctor Doom got canceled. The dev who rebooted XCOM and the CEO of Firaxis "quit" (Most likely fired by 2K) a month or two after release.
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>>94194432
I mean, the only non-energy meta deck playing phlage is domain zoo, which virtually nobody complains about, I still think they're more likely to ban some combination of guide of souls/amped raptor/ajani than phlage
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>>94195848
>best of 1 magic which isn't even real magic
Why is that though?
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>the ask retarded questions Anon is back
I'll admit it's a good troll but consider locking yourself in a garage with a running car
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>>94195893
There's no rematches in arena m8
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Why can't I use him in Standard
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>>94195909
so the first match you play against each opponent is not magic?
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>>94195912
he's from modem horizons 3, which is a set that bypasses standard legality
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>>94195912
only printed in a non-standard legal set
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>>94195912
because it was not printed in a standard set
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>>94195922
What a retarded reductive statement, please stop being 17 years old.
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>>94195922
No, and MtG isn't Magic. It's actually Yugioh.
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>>94195893
In BO1 there's no repercussions for using a deck that can get teched out easily. Unless your opponent happens to be maindecking a counter then it doesn't matter how easily some cards could invalidate your deck. In BO3 on the other hand, you need to be able to deal with your opponent not only knowing your strategy but also having swapped in cards dedicated to countering it.
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>>94195938
Please stop replying to the most obvious bait in the world
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>immediately Anoint with Affliction every oculus
>die to random 2/2s it made for free before I could untap

Incredible Wizards of the Coastâ„¢ gameplay! Can't wait for The Spider-Man!
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>>94195997
How ever will we deal with a single 2/2 creature. The horror. Truly, magic is dead.
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>>94195567
The pointing thing might well get a card.
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>>94195782
We knew this from the announcement it was gonna be multiple sets. You don't get to be surprised.
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>>94194150
I really like the lands. As much as non-mtg they felt.
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>>94195947
ah I see. maybe in arena where you can't see the decklist beforehand but irl I thought decklists were public knowledge
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>>94195912
what do you think "Standard" means in the context of magic?
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>>94191612
>>94191703

this is a commander dream if ever there was one, but we are now dreaming the doublestrike Storm vesuvan duplimancy seize the day dream. fuck, they got me...
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So... Pioneer has 0 relevant tournaments the next few years.

Is it over?
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>>94196142

never began
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>>94196142
I'm an enlightened Chad so I understand that Tournaments are dumb and pointless and for dweebs
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>>94196142
don't worry, new format soon. with straight to (and commander) designed cards
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>>94196142
bro I was playing pioneer during the 2020 covid era, so there was no relevant paper tournaments for anybody and pioneer was one of the least played formats on MTGO, only doing a little better than vintage which has a minuscule playerbase

and that was post the combo decks bans so you couldn't use that as an excuse, if the format didn't die then, it's not gonna die now
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>>94196092
You do see decklists at RCs and similar level events, but usually at anything lower level like RCQs and regular events at your LGS you won't see them.
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>tamyios are 25€ each
>chinaman has not yet discovered how to proxy double faced cards

its over
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>>94195848
Bad client with no good features of MTGO like auto-yield or the chat function, plus the packs are even smaller than paper ones. Being kinda free-to-play if you grind 24/7 does not make up for the faults.
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>>94196142
Only because Pioneer doesn't make money. It is still the best pure Magic format.
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>>94196294
that would be pre-modern, remember your format has cards like pic related when you reply to my post
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>>94196300
>that would be [format nobody ever plays]
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>>94196048
maybe we shouldn't just make every card over 0 mana a must-answer atomic-level threat

Helping Hand is 1 mana, Anoint with Affliction is 2. what am i supposed to do, having the correct answer fucking cost me 1 mana. game is designed by apes
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>>94196313
works on my machine
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>>94196300
Fine. The best pure DCI sanctioned official supported Magic format left.
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>>94196142
this game is an abomination, WOTC is like Invasion of the Body Snatchers masquerading as R&D
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>>94195451
Since I'm bored as fuck I'll actually answer your question with another question: How do you want your deck to win? Are you trying to overwhelm your opponent with a swarm of cheap dudes? Are you focused on trying to get Artifact synergies together? Are you trying for a poison wincon? Figure that out first and then rework your deck by getting rid of all the 1/2-ofs. But really Just build whatever version of RDW is in Standard now and use that to grind for gold/wild cards/dailies. and then go back to this deck.
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Pioneer bros. Share fun decks you've been playing recently.
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THIS GAME IS SHIT
MAGIC IS SHIT
WOTC IS SHIT
FUCK MARO
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>>94195451
In general, i'd try to either go all in on either poison or artifacts, but either way, you definitely want skrelvs hive in this even though it's a rare.
If you're going down the artifact route, Plated onslaught is an uncommon that's decent for this kind of strategy. Unctus is a rare that fits with that as well.
Phyrexian Atlas and dune mover also look quite bad when your curve is so low.
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>>94196550
What did he do?
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What should happen for this UB for die?
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>>94196712
Wrong board, thought I was on /lolg/.
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>>94196676
it's kinda obvious: people have to stop buying it
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Has anyone had any luck starting a scene for a locally unplayed format? How did you go about it? Solicit Standard players at the LGS? Fliers? Host a tourney? I want to be able to play Pauper or Premodern in paper now that Modern and Legacy are pretty much scorched earth.
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>>94196654
he will break modern. mark my words
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>>94196724
here is not much better, the latest [balance patch/card release] is fucking over the metagame even though it still hasn't recoverend since [previous balance patch/card release]
when more than half the [games/deck] see [a character picked or banned/a card played at 4 copies] because they just so strong, and the devs do nothing about it, it's very telling of what's going on upstairs
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>>94196784
>Yone gets a buff
>Ban rate goes from 20% to 33%
>90% pick rate at Worlds
Card for this feeling?
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>>94196805
The One Ring in Modern
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/modern/full/all
At one point it was around 54%, now it kinda dropped to 49 as people figured out the counterpick, and the counterpick is rising up to 40% and climbing
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>>94195197
The only spiderman shit I know is the raimi movies and that animated one with the loli from a few years ago.
I think I'm actually glad it's ONLY spiderman and not all the mcu shit for now at least since I at least liked spiderman, even if I don't give a shit about comics much.
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>>94196845
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-marvel-superdrop
> and not all the mcu shit
Anon, they will do all the mcu shit, they just make a special set for spider-man
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>>94196879
Oh I know they have storm and whatever (storm actually looks fun) I just meant an entire set.
Plus since those are lairs they'll get real magic versions in like 2 years or something.
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>>94195197
Thanks for the OP image anon. I was thinking about buying a few packs the other week, your reminder of all of the bullshit tie ins set me straight. I'll just keep drafting my cube with my mates in peace.
>not even meming, I'm actually really thankful, you saved me a booster box
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>>94197028
not how you use greentext newfag
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>>94197051
I'll use green text however I desire cunt, I've been stuck in this Godforsaken place since 2007 (barring a brief sojourn to better imageboards when they existed) and I will use my eternal summer powers to do whatever the fuck I want.
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>>94195141
>that pic
Pure, unadulterated hate.
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>>94195240
>>94195256
You can buy Charizard from 151 at 100 dollars right now.
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Give me some characters/cards to commision lewds of. I just got a new job and have money to blow. Ill specifically request it is within the bounds of blue board safe so it can be posted here and will share results ITT.
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>>94197356
Marina Vendrell (the goth girl from duskmorn)
The Wanderer
Freyalise
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>>94197356
>lewds
>blue board safe
anon?
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>I counter with spoderman's webshooter
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>>94197356
Grist is also acceptable
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mtgbros, i dont feel so good, it's growing too fast...
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Duskmourne has finally pushed Rakdos Sacrifice into being a fun deck in Standard again. Just got off a game that made my dick feel like it was 6 feet long it was so much fun and made me feel so clever to pilot.
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>>94197451
call me when they have a sana card (they won't)
though with them pandering to JP so much it wouldn't be out of the question to get UB stuff
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>>94197356

Vanifar is criminally underrepresented in the degenerate sloppa world
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>>94197416
do you think he's gonna be a spellslinger card because "webslinger"
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>>94197543
He's going to be the most degenerate stax piece you've seen in your entire life to replicate the feeling of being trapped in his webs (even though him using them to make himself move fast is more iconic)
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>>94197543
Jeskai spellslinger makes sense for him, both thematically and mechanically.
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>>94197451
it's just pokemon tcg but with energies in an extra deck
why did you expect it to not blow up as much as the ptcg did?
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> Literally named Carth The Lion
> mfw not a Lion

what the hell WOTC?
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>>94197451
>>94197648
>>94197508

what is this?
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>>94197685
hololive's card game
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>>94194794
Because their support was designed to be pushed enough for Legacy.
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>>94196762
Got incredibly lucky in that there's a ton of oldheads in my area who like old magic and want to play games semi-regularly
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>>94194794
>It's incredible how much more faith people have in the Pokemon tcg than in Magic.
no one plays pokemon though, they collect it
why do you think eveyr charizard card costs a lot despite most of them being shit in the meta
that being said mtg has literally never had a successful brand image, which they're sort-of kind-of trying to "fix" now even if it's just by being the fortnite of card games
people fucking love yugioh, the brand
yugioh, the card game, is a form of existential torture I wouldn't wish on anyone
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>>94197712
Magic doesn't seem to realize that Fortnite had immense cultural presence prior to being the big crossover game and legitimately keeps pouring a ton of money back into the game rather than cutting corners trying to milk everything out. For fucks sake they funded a research study against their own monetization model (timed exclusives, like what MtG has with secret lairs and reserved list) and changed their model (battle pass now returns after 1 year) when they found out it was harming long-term prospects.
If they want to have staying power they will need to increase the viability of their own brand.
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>>94197736
anon fortnite (at least, the battle royale, not the zombie game that barely anyone remembers anymore) was always big because of the crossover shit. you might not have been using shotguns with naruto or kamehamehas with peter griffin but you were doing it with random zoomer dance 1-5 because all of those were just popular dances (they even got sued for a few of them, I think)
fortnite's a juggernaut but it's a juggernaut near-solely on it being the funny crossover game, before that it was just "pubg but slightly better because the pubg devs were retards"
I did hear about the battle pass stuff though yea, good on them I guess
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>>94197736
>WOTC are less competent than the fucking Fortnite people
Color me not surprised in the slightest
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>>94197685
vtuber card game, and despite only be a few months old is already like the 4th or 5th biggest tcg in japan
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>>94197712
I said it, people have faith in Pokemon, that is what is driving Charizard's price up.
Who the fuck has faith in that old and busted card game that tries to be hip by paying to use the Marvel licenses?
Magic is managed by retards that drank their own kool aid.
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>>94197763
Except this is contradicted by their breakout season, season 5, being one that had zero pop culture references in the battle pass.
They legitimately just made a good game.
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>>94197780
If you're asking mtg to have a successful brand image you're 25 years too late for that. Whether or not you think it's a good thing they never really cared about anything outside of the cardboard.
Shandalar saw middling success and pretty much every other video game adaption has been hot garbage or a shitty recreation of paper.
I think they maybe tried a manga promo thing back in like M10? I remember some shitty blue fatty showing up.
Destroy All Humans is the closest the series has ever gotten to having a prolific brand (and I'm not even just being a weeb on this, the old comics and books were largely ignored and vorthos stuff since has been very hit or miss, partially because you have to wait like five years to see characters again, at least after the weatherlight)
At this point their best foot forward is to keep chugging along with the game (as it's the only thing they've ever put significant time into) and just let other people do the brand heavy lifting for them.
I'd consider myself a pretty heavy vorthos, maybe even over my enjoyment of the game itself, but wotc absolutely does not give a single shit about the narrative/brand.
Both of their big climactic finales in the past decade have been wet farts, the first of which was an active detriment to the game and the second was..."ok" I guess but even then it was still pretty shit to waste what had been kind of good build up.
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>>94197780
Pokemon and Pokemon TCG WILL still be a thing in 20 years.
MTG? I honestly don't know.
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>>94197736
>>94197798
>Fortnite had immense cultural presence prior to being the big crossover game
No it really wasn't lmao. It piggybacked on the PUBG battle royale trend, and then jumped onto the pop culture crossover scheme.
>their breakout season, season 5
And you really think that happening right after their collab with Marvel to promote Infinity War, the biggest movie of the time, had nothing to do with their success? Really?
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>>94197763
technically anon is half right, Fortnite started it's popularity as a wave-rider for the battle royale genre after PUBG didn't havemeaningful updates for a while and the performance kept getting worse
they just pivoted to crossovers right on time to carry the wave into a different direction
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>>94197829
If that was the case then season 4 would have been the breakout but it wasn't.
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>We've got fortnite zoomers in here now too talking about how it's a really good game, promise
I'm surprised I haven't seen this earlier
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>>94197844
it may have been good back when it was a zombie survival thing
battle royale fortnite is like commander magic: using the engine for something it's not meant to do and yet somehow that's the more popular format and it boggles everyone's mind (or at least, everyone who has a mind, unlike salespeople or the players/consumers)
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>>94197844
It's an unfathomably low bar to be a game managed better than MtG.
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>>94197834
I'm not some video game historian and they don't put out player numbers, but at least from what I can see, that was exactly what happened.
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>>94197866
oh if you're just talking about how the game is managed then yea absolutely
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>>94196882
There's multiple sets, Spider-Man's just the first one. I can see there being anywhere from 3-5 to be honest. X-Men feel like they'd be a whole set to themselves if Spidey's one, and Avengers could be their own thing, but you could conceivably just have Avengers "and the rest" all in one, and maybe a Fantastic Four + Cosmic shit in another.
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>>94197883
whats the timeline for this, a set every month? 2 sets a year? are we gonna have up to 3 years of marvel slop?
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>>94197907
2 UB sets a year was I think their last word on it
starting next year with final fantasy and spiderman
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>>94197808
Didn't help that their grand idea was to soft reboot with a cast of comic book characters without doing any of the legwork to build them up to the same degree as comic book characters. Yeah, maybe you could have had Jace Beleren as the Spiderman of Magic, but first you'd need to actually put in the effort to make him cool or iconic. For being the "Mickey Mouse" of Magic that they named a typeface after he doesn't even have a video game afaik, yet Garruk got one all about him.
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>>94197907
Just suffer through it and make sure you don't buy any of it and we might turn out okay
The ven diagram of people who care about Marvel Comics and people who care about MTG is probably not too big. It won't flop as hard as Assassin's Creed but it hopefully won't do Warhammer numbers either.
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>>94197907
I can see us getting one Marvel set per year 'til they're done with them. Maybe every other year.
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Garruk didn't have a game he was just the face of M13 I think. They used to have yearly Duels games so I guess you could count that? But yea, Jace was a non-character that no one liked until Ixalan, which is funny, because they then immediately hired a narrative lead that made sure that Jace would do jack and fuck (and then when people DID like him they sent him to the backseat so the WE brigade could take over).
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>>94197918
ass creed flopped because it was an aftermath booster thing
i mean, I also don't think ass creed is a great ip (ubisoft is currently a sinking ship too) but most of its sales are more than easily pointed towards its format rather than its cards/ip/etc
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>>94197927
>ubisoft is currently a sinking ship too
That's because of everything except AC. Has there been a single unprofitable AC game? It's basically how WotC is to Hasbro.
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>>94197927
Barely anybody bought the Ass Creed Commander precons afaik. Nobody wanted that shit. The aftermath boosters were just another shit to add to the pile.
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>>94197918
>but it hopefully won't do Warhammer numbers either
lotr was their best selling set, ever
whether or not it's a good idea long-term you can absolutely see why they're chasing it
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>>94197924
Jace I think has always been good in the stories, but his good parts were never put forward in the stories until Ixalan (Agents of Artifice had them too but nobody fucking read that). He just suffered from a case of "being an entirely different character in flavour text".
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>>94197940
There were no Assassin's Creed commander precons.
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>>94197938
That black samurai game isn't helping their ship stay afloat though
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>>94197940
>Barely anybody bought the Ass Creed Commander precons afaik.
those didn't exist, did they?
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>>94197975
No, it was just the mini-set and a starter kit.
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>>94197959
>He just suffered from a case of "being an entirely different character in flavour text".
since they apparently chose vivien to be the mono-green face for foundations I hope they do fucking SOMETHING with her
even if she's just snarky black womyn and not steve irwin like she was in that one card it'd be better than her simply Existing like Nissa did
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>>94197970
You're right I got confused
But that doesn't mean anybody gave a shit about Ass Creed enough to buy into a shit card game
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>>94197938
>Has there been a single unprofitable AC game?
the new one got delayed by half a year and had its merch cancelled
funnily it's ass creed japan, the thing people have been asking for since more or less the series started going places, and they managed to fuck it up harder than any other
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>>94197972
That's more due to the rest of the ship sinking rather than the AC brand. They already had a similar thing happen with people crying about how that one chick from Odyssey looked like a dude, yet that was a commercial success too.
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>>94197988
yea, which as you said, is purely on the ip
lotr, 40k, and (probably) even doctor who/fallout have all sold exceedingly well
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>>94197985
Vivien's honestly even worse on that front because Jace at least had a good story to start off with that they mostly kinda meandered around using as a kick-off. Vivien had no real story with her intro besides a brief backstory blurb, did nothing in her actual story debut in WAR, and then just kind of fucked around on Ikoria and Capenna for no real reason. I wonder how much Lukka's reception being so poor swerved their plans for Vivien's character, though. Like there's remnants of Vivien trying to get Lukka to be less of a dickbag but then she just sort of unceremoniously executes him when he goes Phyrexian and so... Mnyeh.
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>>94197996
History-loving types seem to have been their weirdly big fanbase, and they got turned off pretty hard by Valhalla because it went WAY too much on whitewashing the Vikings (don't worry, all those monasteries you're raiding have been evacuated of ALL innocents, you're only killing mean soldiers, etc.) and felt just wrong on the history end. I don't think those sorts of fans were upset at Shadows, they just sort of stopped caring with Valhalla.
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>>94198001
Unironically her best story was the one she had on Ixalan where she saw the vampires were torturing animals so she just cast overrun and nuked the city
>sort of unceremoniously executes him when he goes Phyrexian
I think that's less of them being wishy washy on her character (they are though, absolutely) and moreso just the thing of "It's ok you didn't kill them it was the phyrexians that did etc etc", they even kept repeating that for tamiyo
What's funny to me is that vivien is introduced as ONLY caring about getting revenge on bolas because her whole gimmick is her whole plane got killed by him, which is why her bow has every animal from her plane...and then she didn't lift a finger and actively avoided him in WAR.
WAR has its own myriad problems but still.
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>>94198014
I forgot they gave Vivien that story, to be honest. She's just kind of been 'there' in the story. It's so weird she's the face of Foundations for green, but I guess it's kind of just for lack of anybody else. Garruk they seem even less sure what to do with, and Nissa's been relegated to not being a planeswalker anymore.
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>>94198018
I'm glad Nissa's fucked off but do we even know if Garruak still has his spark? He was sparse at best before but they at least uncursed him, the last time we saw him he was chaperoning the twins for the kenriths, now the parents are dead and the kids are split
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>>94198009
That may be true (I've never played a single AC game), but it's not hard to do a search and see that Valhalla put up great numbers. Maybe people disliked the departure from historic accuracy, but that doesn't seem to be hurting the bottom line.
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>Chick from a Nature vs Technology plane, said plane's name is based off some norse word.
>Weapon is a soul-stealing bow that binds living creatures to it.
>Souls are used for summoning later, said summons are from when the creature was in the prime of its life.
>Personality: Steve Irwin
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>>94198038
I feel like he'll still have it just because the rest of the Lorwyn 5 do.
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>>94198072
She'd be good if she was steve irwin
Sadly they seem to have abandoned that personality for her since it only ever showed up on one card.
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>>94198072
Her personality should be Gordon Ramsay and she should cook the animals before stealing their souls.
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>>94198081
tbf that's partly because she doesn't show up much, she's on flavor text for 7 cards since Ikoria
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>>94198097
yea but she's been in stories and...not done much other than be garruk lite
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>>94195256
nta but i wouldn't have sold it because i'm a goddamn hoarder
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>>94197985
Somehow Vivien reminds me Kellan exists, isn't he one of the new non-walkers Wizards is trying to push?
Oko got a pretty terrible reception why would anybody care about his son?
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>>94198269
People liked Oko's character, they just hated his card.
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>>94198269
Kellan wasn't meant to be a long-term character, he was just a connective thread for the four sets post-MOM. He'll probably show up again sometime down the line but he's only been moderately well-received compared to, say, Proft who I think is the best-received new character in a while.
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>>94196762
You have to build a bunch of decks for that format, then attend other events and offer to play that format with people between rounds. It helps if you're well ingrained in your LGSs community.
>Hey man do you want to try this format called premodern? I have some decks here if you want to pick one to try
It can be difficult if you have limited time between rounds because people will spend quite a while reading the cards.

Another difficulty is card accessibility. It's more or less not worth it for stores to find and stock random commons and uncommons from the 90s, so you have to be willing to source and do bulk online orders for several people at a time. I live in a small country with poor card availability and occasionally do orders from overseas, and check with my playgroup when I do so to see if they need anything; I usually get several people joining in each time.

After people have become interested and maybe started building decks, you have to talk with your LGS owner to see if he can start stocking staples for whichever format, and offering tournaments for it. It's enormously beneficial to allow proxies because of the availability issue described above, even if only temporarily.
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>>94198281
No, people liked Oko because his card was broken and because of the meme. Nobody care about MtG characters since they don't know anything about them except what their card do.
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>>94198269
>Oko got a pretty terrible reception why would anybody care about his son?
I'm pretty sure most people don't even know that Kellan is Oko son.
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I like dragon characters because I think dragons are cool and I want to see more of them.
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>>94198376
Sarkhan bro, you gotta let go
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>look for a card i can put in modern dredge to deal with ring protection
>the only option with any kind of recursion is this and it's not legal in modern
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>>94198389
We're gonna return to Tarkir and see him getting SMASHED by Ojutai.
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>>94198402
Nah, Narset will kill him and the shitty dragons as well.
Hopefully.
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>>94198376
>thunderous applause
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Who are you quoting?
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>>94198418
me
thunderous applause
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>>94198409
The dragons will suddenly be wedge colors and it will not be explained.
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Current standard is trash. Too much aggro and combo.
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>>94198424
The dragons will start fucking and pumping mana into each other, that's why they'll be wedge colors. This will of course lead to the return of Ugin and Bolas together as a new gay couple.
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>>94198269
Kellan was a weird case where he connected four stories narratively despite only really being in two of them. He's sharing the protagonist spot in Eldraine and OTJ, a side character in Ixalan, and a barely-present tertiary character in MKM.
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>>94198450
Oh my god Kellan is like one of those kids in an educational fiction book or series where the kids get sent back in time to see the Great Wall or meet Washington or something
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>>94198441
BASED BASED BASED
I'll take ten boxes.
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>>94198441
Fucking dragons, hope the Khans can get their vengeance even if some of them are already dead.
Fuck dragons all my homies hate dragons.
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>>94198402
He's apparently the 'Dragonspeaker' now whatever that means.
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>>94198567
stfu Narset go join Tamiyo in the fridge
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>>94198569
Fucking sellout glowie. Too bad nu!Zurgo also joined him on team 'let's fuck dragons' over team 'fuck the dragons.'
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>>94198580
Zurgo teaming up with Ojutai was more a matter of "greater threat" than Zurgo actively joining them.
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>>94198580
Anon I don't think they changed teams they just got better at fucking the dragons.
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>>94198569
That's from one of his oldest cards, I wouldn't put too much stock in it.
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>>94198460
Magic tree house kellan edition
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>>94198567
Based.
Due to timeline shenanigans, Anafenza, Narset, Sidisi, Zurgo, and Surrak team up for total dragon death.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRUgbNFvhs
>tfw no oldschool gf
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>>94198658
this looks like set constructed rather than old school
pretty cool nonetheless
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>>94197809
Pretty much.
>>94197808
Just because you weren't very good at doing something until now it doesn't mean you have to throw it all away like they're doing with Universes Beyond.
Magic IS a decent brand known by nerds all over the world, they have a good foundatio upon which to build but they're willingly choosing to throw it all away in the name of short term hype and success.
That's where the management appears to be blind.
On top of that, unlike many other companies that only put on the woke performace to ingratiate themselves to certain groups, people at WOTC fucking believe that bullshit, that's what I mean when i say they drank their own kool aid, and that will absolutely destroy the game, it already has to an extent and it gets worse by the day.
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>>94198589
The difference between dragon sex and dragon murder is a thin one it seems.
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>>94198269
>Somehow Vivien reminds me Kellan exists, isn't he one of the new non-walkers Wizards is trying to push?
They weren't "pushing" Kellan they said he had a concise arc and it finished in thunder junction. It was infinitely better than "Here's a character, hope you don't like him again because he's not showing up for 6 years".
Look at fucking Teysa who has done Fuck and All so they just killed her and she's STILL done nothing despite all their walking around.

Also people really liked Oko, as a character, and Kellan was also a pretty good character. He even got a cute vampire girlfriend and lives with her now. We'll maybe see him later but they said from the start he was a short arc character. They should do more of them.
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Great, I finally get around to collecting Nazgul and it's all Standard Non-Legal.

Oh, but suuuure, go brew a deck with Wolverine, bub.
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>>94198729
Pipeline is real.
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>>94198569
anon that's been his title for ages
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>>94198716
>Just because you weren't very good at doing something until now
they AREN'T good at it now, that's the issue
go look at the march of the machine story, it had some pretty decent buildup but the actual main crux of the story was "Uhhhh yea everyone effortlessly scooby doo'd the phyrexians and then they died the end, all those plot threads were meaningless". They have never had a consistently good story, it's always "Oh well yea that was kind of good" and then they fuck it up. Weatherlight, arguably the most consistent story they ever did, got axed and ended prematurely for some corporate reason.
they are slightly better now, I guess, but they are far from good
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Is there a scryfall tag that find actual card advantage? "otag:'card advantage'" is full of things that are not at all card advantage
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>>94198794
what do you mean by "actual card advantage"
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>>94198806
Repeatable draw/impulse/exile
Draw/impulse/exile multiple cards
Draw/impulse/exile a card, leave a body behind
Kill a thing, draw/impulse/exile a card
Etc
You know, actual card advantage. As in, you have an advantageous number of cards compared to your position before playing the card.
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>>94198822
Looks like they have a handful of replacers but most of them are advantage.
otag/atag are also entirely user generated, if you wanna do it you can just go and make your own list.
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>>94197918
nah it's going to be one of the most successful sets ever based on the hype I've seen on it so far, the venn diagram you mention is a lot bigger than you think
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>>94198608
It's not really a title he's been called much in lore or flavour text, they'd usually just use Sarkhan Vol, but fair enough.
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>>94198843
>a handful
I've filtered at least a third of the total results and there are still a bunch of false positives remaining.
I know how tags work I was just wondering if there was a tag I wasn't aware of that could save me the trouble of writing a sixty character regex.
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>>94199057
Why don't you just remember every card in the game off the top of you're head like a normal, well adjusted person?
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>>94199066
Fuck, you're right. I'm a washed-up scrub :(
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>>94199066
That's not what Richard Garfield intended
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>>94197995
>funnily it's ass creed japan, the thing people have been asking for since more or less the series started going places
Didn't help that Sony beat them to the punch and ported Ghost of Tsushima to Steam the same year Ubisoft decided to "modern audience" their version.
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>>94199099
>current Magic is coming back around to Richard's original vision
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>>94199099
>People won't know every card
>Overflow of design mistakes means you only need to know 5 at any given time
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>>94198822
Card advantage also counts the board state, but of course, /tg/ is bad at Magic and you'll die on this hill you've made of half-assed game understanding.
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>>94199164
The guy's probably just looking for cards that refill the hand not virtual card advantage which is more multifaceted.
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>>94199099
Honestly, I think Garfield (not WotC) is right. The game is at its best when you and your opponents don't know what each other's cards do and you're learning as you go. Naturally WotC just uses that as an excuse to churn out infinite slop, but Garfield himself wasn't wrong.
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>>94199191
Cool bird
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>>94199164
Yes, what you're describing is usually referred to as "virtual card advantage" or "selection" or "quality" or something similar. It's a quality that can be important, but is not what I'm looking for.
Even if I was considering "board state" in the sense you're talking about, it still doesn't make sense to call this "card advantage" in any reasonable sense.
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>>94197995
>>94199139
This was the one with the black samurai right? Outrage from both sides of the globe?
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>>94199099
Today, nobody cares what Richard Garfield thinks or thought about the game; his vision at the time was a perspective from the bottom of the mountain. Nobody sane thinks we should return to the darkness and unknown because that's all the excuse Wizards needs to keep things like Gatherer shit and offload their responsibility to Scryfall. Additionally, nobody should care because there was nothing of value or relevance there. And finally, Wizards (and players) only invoke his name to attach his legendary status to some idea that is probably dogshit. I'm not saying everything Garfield believes is useless, to the contrary he wants the game to be better unlike Wizards, but for the most part he has no relevance.

Just let the man receive his paycheques but for fucks sake stop using his name it makes you look like a hack.
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>>94199308
I find the controversy over misuse and misunderstanding of important Japanese symbols and pieces of their culture to be more compelling.
Guy who was literally real being cast as something that he probably wasn't is not at all strange for Ass Creed.
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>>94199099
Make all games played for ante with no deckbuilding restrictions just like the original vision.
10 Leyline of Anticipation
20 Black Lotus
Every. Single. Deck.
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>>94199333
>Guy who was literally real being cast as something that he probably wasn't is not at all strange for Ass Creed
That never applied to the main character though.
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>>94199333
>misuse and misunderstanding of important Japanese symbols and pieces of their culture
That's also not new to AC, unless you're of the opinion the Capitoline triad were actually aliens.
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>>94199397
Well there's stuff like that and then there's the Assassin's Creed funko pop with a symbol of a national tragedy featured prominently on it
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>>94199452
Nah, back then they just had you beat up the pope instead.
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>>94199328
I can't say I know exactly what the dude thinks but sagas (and large parts of dominaria) were direct from him. His two main things were "Cards should never be more than 20 dollars" and "You shouldn't really have an encycldopedic knowledge of the game".
I don't know if he ever stated if he had any hard opinions on ante but I'd say he generally has a better idea of the game than a lot of modern wotc.
Shitting out a thousand cards a year (or whatever we're at) IS a good thing. The quality of those cards is another issue, though.
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>>94199353
40 Chancellor of the Dross
20 Soul Spike
Good luck scrub
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>>94199572
While those Chancellor triggers are on the stack, I flash out my Black Lotus...
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>>94199572
>Player that goes first loses
Finally. Good Magic.
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Does anyone have that one green card where its current oracle text directly contradicts what's on the card?
Like, it's literally the opposite of what the card implies.
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>>94197356
Braids, nightmare version.
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>>94197356
R63 Unstoppable Slasher
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>>94198389
>>94198608
Sarkhan was originally white?
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>>94199811
He's fantasy-Mongolian.
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>>94197356
Her feet.
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>win an Arid Mesa on MTGO
>it's worth $2.50

everyone at WOTC should be in a concentration camp
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>>94200004
there are mexicans grinding pauper to live right now and this is how you repay them, you swindlers?
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Anyone played Value Vintage?
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>>94195464
Mark said Spiderman is green because he has villains with animal names like himself almost as if by fate so all animal themed villains might be green.
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>>94199932
I find it funny that despite the endless sea of ugly females, there's only a couple that look cute or attractive.
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I don't think I've ever seen that Mystic Forge Grim Monolith deck in Legacy lose a game 1.
But I don't hear people mention it as one of the top decks.
What's up with that?
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>>94200223
Jujubean, the guy that won EW Legacy last year, started playing it in leagues after not playing for several months, so I'd assume he's going to take it to EW this year.

It's probably not discussed much because the game plan is always linear and it's not a deck that has a spotlight on it. It's also somewhat easy to hate out via Null Rod, Meltdown etc. I think the printing of Vexing Bauble - which that deck runs a playset of - and Fleshraker has really pushed it over the edge.
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>>94200223
consign to memory is in the top 5 most played cards in the format, that probably makes people a bit hesitant to pick the deck up
personally I don't see myself playing it because it needs 4x rings and that shit is not worth its price on MTGO given it's not gonna be legal in modern by next year
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>>94200277
>700 tix
I can't even justify renting it for this much
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>>94200183
That's kinda cute
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>>94195451
Update, found a blue Phyrexian deck but uses red which I don't mind.
https://youtu.be/KvvKBNOH-k8?si=6arZixnBFwJ3h7PI
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>>94199353
>no deckbuilding restrictions
I actually liked the rarity-based restrictions in the Magic Origins digital game that was up on Steam (and died for Arena): up to 4x per common, 3x per uncommon, 2x per rare, and 1x per mythic.
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>>94195451
You should move away from toxic and into artifacts typal.
Here's some cards to add:
Surgical Skullbomb
Jawbone Duelist
Veil of Assimilation
Ossification
Experimental Augury
Myr Convert
Eye of Malcator
Unctus's Retrofitter
Patchwork Banner
Cephalopod Sentry

Here are some artifacts matter cards if you do choose that route:
Novice Inspector
Clay-Fired Bricks
Oaken Siren
Staunch Crewmate
Everflowing Well
Unstable Glyphbridge
Master's Guide-Mural
Combat Thrasher

Remove
Sinew Dancer and Ichor Synthesizer

These are staples you should get for any White or blue decks.
Nettle Guard
Chart a Course
Sealed from Existence or Banishing Light
No Witnesses
Phantom Interference
Not on My Watch
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>>94200451
But how many copies though is the question here.
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>>94200287
That's kind of brutal.
The only Modern deck I'd want to play is less than 100 tix for everything except The Ring (mainly just Boseiju/Urza's Saga).. but then it wants a playset of the The Ring too.
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>>94200568
This?
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>>94200451
>typal.
go back to twitter nigger
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i will never serve
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>>94200656
Not in that outfit, you won't
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>>94200611
I can't tell what the feel in that image is, so maybe he means this instead
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>>94200873
Alternatively, pic rel
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>>94195891
i'm playing jeskai stifle, hoping ring gets banned and phlage doesn't.
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>>94200873
>I can't tell what the feel in that image is
This should help
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>>94201085
And the card he was holding
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>>94201085
So you can force this onto their field, sac one of their things, and then you can use some other thing to counter a spell/ability?
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>>94201107
Ye, it's mainly just used to clear up a specific card. But the only way to even use the archetype's counters is by having their specific field spell.
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https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/444546
Explorer(ew) tournament 2nd place decklist looks neat
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>>94201130
explorer and pioneer are the only formats that are free of made for commander or made for modern cards for now:(.
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>Duskmourn has cool demon cards
>No one has come up with a deck yet utilizing Duskmourn demons
>Alchemy makes this
>MtG Arena exclusive and not in Standard
What bullshit is this?
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>>94201107
Not quite.
Baronne is a control card that freely counters and destroys shit each turn. Gameciel hard counters it because it sacs an opponent's monster (Baronne) as the cost to play it in the first place, meaning she dies regardless of what happens to the kaiju on the chain or the field.
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>>94201151
>drafts a card
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>>94201151
>cast trigger
Shame its alchemy faggotry, would be cool otherwise
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>>94200523
Here's the current list I crafted trying to make a WU phyrexian.
It can be improved but I'm tired right now. It could use Sunfall and other control cards. Here's how the deck could be improved:
1. Going artifact tribal and try to play low cost artifacts to beatdown the opponent aggressively.
2. Control artifact. This is the best way to play but I would have to remove many phyrexians to focus on removal and card advantage.
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>>94197356
Moriok Scavenger, my beloved.
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>>94201260
Holy titties
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>>94201130
UW Control with a build-your-own Staff of the Storytellers
Judging by those results, it looks like the best Explorer deck is just good old Cat Oven ft Fable of the Mirror Breaker.
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>>94201217
CoCo is pretty funny with it
but I think Demon + Occulus are better in a UB deck with Unearth and Psychic Frog
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>>94201260
New Capenna female devil token.

>>94197527
Vanifar is a woman?
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>>94201350
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>>94197808
Wow, a living Vorthos ! There is still people caring about the lore at this point ? What the fuck
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>>94200611
Isn't it a little fucked up that this gets around Ward but not shield counters? Even though it was in the set with shield counters?
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>>94201460
Not that Anon, but Bloom Burrow and the Jace+Vraska chapters from Thunder Junction were nice.
Although Bloom Burrow felt rushed, it definitely should have been a multi-block set and I'm still not a fan of Thunder Junctions flavor on a whole as being the wacky cowboy plane with ugly looking not!guns.
Loots inclusion also feels weird since he immediately got kidnapped by Vagavoth, I thought the Dragons they keep talking about or Jace+Vraska were going to be the main villain, and while I like Vagavoth in a vacuum it seems weird that he just immediately gets Loot right after Thunder Junction, it feels too plot convenient and like we barely got to know the annoying Fomori creature macguffian and I don't think Vagavoth even needed Loot, he was already breaking into new planes without Omen Paths and now that he has them plus a perfect map of the multiverse it seems a bit weird we're going to swerve back to whatever the Dragonstorm is now that Vagavoth is basically Yawgmoth the living planet 2 demon edition.
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>>94197356
Ugin and Bolas kissing.
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>>94196054
Shoving Match
Captcha I shit you not GAYYHJ
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>>94201291
wouldn't top Pioneer decks that get ported over without missing cards just be better than whatever Arena players are on in Explorer?
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What's the fastest way to get these two on the field? I never managed to make Nexus work in Mono-Green before Karn got banned, but maybe I can make this work instead.
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>>94201741
show and tell into omniscience, or double tinker off mana crypt + black lotus + 1 artifact start
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>>94201741
In pioneer you could get them both out with creativity x=2
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>>94201573
I thought the idea was is that Jace is supposed to "fuse" with Val somehow and then use Loot.
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Wait, why just Spider-Man? Why not all of Marvel?
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>>94200568
Had to read the explanation, but this fits pretty well
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>>94202052
because pre-mcu people only cared about spiderman and mcu is on the way out
at least, that's my idea
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>>94201460
MOM was a bit of a wet fart but otherwise they've been on a (very slight) but gradual incline
>>94201987
That's just a schizo theory saying that Winter was Jace all along.
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>>94195217
We WILL get numerous ToR style format warpers and you WILL have to put up with years of faggots saying "I tap Captain America's shield" or "I tap The Infinity Gauntlet".
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>>94195284
And you thought correctly, because anyone paying over 2 bucks for any single card is a giant retard. Even back then, we could always proxy by writing on a land or trash common.
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>>94199099
Most players won't know most cards because most cards are hot garbage intentionally designed to be shit to pad out boosters so degenerate crack packing addicts can get hooked on dopamine for the 10% of time they open a pack and it isn't 100% shit from front to back. The same few busted cards dominate while poor retards who insist on playing the game but don't want to sink money into it but also refuse to proxy have to make due with padding their decks out with barely good enough budget cards getting stomped by the pay2winners.

The game would objectively be better with an extremely small pool of cards that are all well designed and roughly on the same level.
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>>94196762
Make a battle box. If you remove the barrier to playing games by having multiple decks ready to go, people are infinitely more likely to try your format.
If you're a Premodern Chad come find us on boomer ass Facebook. Easiest way to find games, better discussions for the format than here, and can set you up in webcam or MTGO leagues.
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>>94202201
Not all along, just at the very end.
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>>94202327
yea that's what I meant, the same thing as in eldraine
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>>94199571
>"Cards should never be more than 20 dollars"
A point that Wizards obviously doesn't believe in nor does enough people in the community bitch about.

>"You shouldn't really have an encycldopedic knowledge of the game"
Given that you just said printing a thousand cards a year is a good thing, which I agree with, and everyone else probably agrees with, it renders Garfield's opinion somewhat irrelevant because obviously it is to be celebrated and encouraged to have an encyclopedic knowledge of cards.

So again, if these are his two big points and they don't matter at all nor will the game ever change towards these viewpoints, it makes him somewhat completely irrelevant. Okay great, he made Sagas, how heavily do you want to lean on that fact to support his legendary status.

I'm not shitting on Garfield in any way. But to throw his name around like it has clout is pissing into the river. His contributions to the game since the creation of the game itself amount to almost nothing good or bad. Wizards has done so much shit to the game that it's just not fucking rational or sane at all to say Garfield's positive contributions somehow offset all the shit we can attribute to MaRo that he would obviously be ashamed of if he were in charge.
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>>94202221
Anybody who proxied by writing on a land or trash common or used black and white prints was a war criminal.

Yes, it's stupid to pay X dollars for a card, but being a cheap piece of shit who doesn't care about helping your opponent easily recognize your card across the table is not to be respected either. There was and still is a bare minimum of effort that has to go into proxies.
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>>94202449
>it renders Garfield's opinion somewhat irrelevant because obviously it is to be celebrated and encouraged to have an encyclopedic knowledge of cards.
I mean, I sure as hell don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of cards, even normal standard set cards.
Wotc obviously doesn't give a shit about the price point one, and it's true that they don't ACTUALLY care (or at least, no one with decision making power does) about these things and just throw them out as maxims to justify things, but I DO think they are desirable aspects none the less.
Maro's also done a fair amount of good for the game, arguably the most by sheer quantity, but he's also given the game two of its biggest blunders ever (bfz and companions) and is rather frequently either pompously certain of his own opinion or jut flat out wrong. (again see: bfz, companions)
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>>94202468
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/what-are-play-boosters
MaRo damaged Limited to what I would suggest is an unrecognizable state of imbalance. I don't really care if it was him who suggested it or if he's just there to sell it but it's his name on the article. You will not convince me that this single act does not outweigh whatever long list of positives you think MaRo has contributed to the game. I invite you to try but I know you won't make a convincing argument. It won't be your fault if you don't understand how much damage to Limited he has done but it is unbelievable; it is so damaging that you could revert ALL the power creep since the introduction of Limited and the damage would still be there.
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>>94202499
I don't know how you read what I posted as a glowing endorsement of maro because it wasn't, I even said in the more recent years he's been a lot more overtly wrong about things.
>I don't really care if it was him who suggested it or if he's just there to sell it but it's his name on the article.
I will however say that we've had multiple people all corroborate the story of corporate trying to kill draft packs entirely and this was some half-compromise they made so limited didn't just go poof.
Play boosters ARE much, much, much worse for limited and that's an even further shame when draft/sealed are some of the only good formats.
Perhaps everything they've said is some random fabrication and maro wanted to kill draft boosters from the start, but that seems unlikely, so I'm not gonna be the one shooting the messenger on this. I can shoot him for all of the outright retarded things he's admitted himself, though.
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>just ordered a playset of leyline of resonance
I held for so long, but I can't go on anymore without it. Testing my deck with bo3 arena showed substantial increase in winrate and I want to try and win at lgs at least once untill foundations and old gruul prowess isn't doing it anymore.
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>>94202514
You deserve an explanation, I don't credit MaRo with anything good in the game hence the volatile reaction to any suggestion he's been a force of good. I have never known Magic without MaRo he has been the voice of the game for the nearly 20 years I've played it and in retrospective, I seriously think nothing he has said or done has made the game better. The progenitor to everything bad we are experiencing today is Mythic Rares, something he sold to us. Mythics opened the door to hundred dollar Jaces, power creep, teaching MaRo that the community would swallow his bullshit about Lotus Cobra. He was there for all of it and he and Aaron are the only two people still in the company from that era. They are the messengers, the gatekeepers, and the men whose signatures are on the marching orders. And I can say, based off the entire past year's events alone that the game would be in a better place if those two people were fired 20 years ago and replaced with anybody else if only to delay what has happened this year by any amount of time.

You might think Companions are the worst thing. To me, that's nothing; to me, that's just a result of lack of playtesting, which is the reason why tonnes of stupid shit happens. Companions aren't the sin, it's the sin of lack of playtesting, this is the real and gigantic horror. And we're not talking about a whole lot of playtesting, I mean a failure to have a level of playtesting that any other profession or organization in the world does for their own product.
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>>94202574

based successfully fomo'd retard
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>>94201987
>It was me Ral, I was Winter, I was Coffee the Rat, it was me who fertilized Maha's eggs.
>But the Stormhawk, who was the Storm Hawk?!
>Sarkhan walks in from off screen.
>Ral falls to his knees
>T-Then why was Vraska a lizard?
>Thunderbooms in the distance.
>Vraska walk in stage left, she is a Viashino now,
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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>>94201151
There have been a bunch on Mono Black demon lists popping up they just haven't gotten a foothold yet
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>>94201741
a deck full of artifacts + whir of invention
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>>94201741
I think the best fit for these would be in an updated version of the Whir of Invention artifact deck that someone was doing well with in Pioneer after Ixalan.
Maybe 2 of one and 1 of the other as an instant speed tutor target.
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>>94196142
The less the eye of wotc shines on your format the better
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>>94197356
The guy on fiver did a pretty meh job
Maybe you can do better
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I'm going to try using this idiot as a wincon in Enchantress. Part of me hopes it sucks just because the showcase art is so much better and my lgs doesn't have any of them.
>3 mana for a body
>4 mana for 6 power cast is cheaper than all the other token generators, even though there's an element of diminishing returns
>if they kill it immediately you can still get the toad
Lord help me it sounds downright reasonable. Will also be testing Doom Fortold because we clearly need more than 11 pieces of removal. Unfortunately reaching the point where Blood Moon might be too greedy.
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>>94198794
If you're just looking for card draw try this.
>(o:draw o:card) (-o:"draw a" ) game:paper
So you search for cards which contain the words, Draw and Card, but exclude cards which draw a singular card.
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>>94202992
That has a low false positive rate, but also a high false negative rate.
Drawing one card is fine as long as it does something else too. Leaves a body behind, kills a thing, has flashback, etc.
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>>94203284
Well if you want something with an additional effect you can add something like this to the search.
>(o:token or o:target or o:destroy or o:exile or o:flashback or otag:double-keyword) (-otag:un-keyword)
And remove
>(-o:"draw a" )
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>>94197986
>groid samurai game will NOT save Ubislop just like how groids in MtG will NOT save Magic
Orewai da
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>>94201741
I spent a lot of time trying to brew a deck that was good with that combo but it doesn't really work (mainly because you have no way to sac the Nexus in UW).
so I just went back to play this list that one guy did alright with for a week at the start of the year, it's a lot of fun. nothing relevant for it came out since unfortunately.
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>>94203438
Yeah you'd either have to splash black or red, or play Trading Post. Or play Creativity instead.
>>94201897
Creativity decks have always looked fun maybe I'll try that. Makeshift Munitions gives you a sac outlet that doesn't brick you, so that's nice.
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>accidentally did alchemy draft instead of regular draft
FUUUUUCK how do I refund
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>>94203756

>retard does retard thing
>asks how to undo it here instead of asking customer support

retard
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"Restricted by Rarity" (RbR) across all formats except Vintage fucking when??
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>>94203828
>let's sell less packs

never ever
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>>94203857
Then I hope this game burns. FIRE playtesting with only Commander has irrevocably obliterated this game, there is absolutely no saving this game, and I dream of the death of Magic ever more every single night.
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>>94203879
>>94203879

>>94203879
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>>94202654
got a good laugh out of me anon
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>>94201356
this is definitely someone's fetish
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>Face a control deck
>he drew 4 three steps ahead, 4 no more lies, and 4 get losts in 16 cards.
:) Just variance bros!



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