Previous: >>94232445>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://mtglands.com>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com/>TQ:What's your favorite tier 4 card?
Gay Bolas
>>94237787>TQThis bad boy
>>94237787tier 4 commander coming thru
>>94237787>What's your favorite tier 4 card?HOOO'sa askin'?
>>94237834>not og hazew
>>94237869og haz is like t2 idiot
>>94237787>TQSol ring
>>94237887no he's not, you just have bad tasteso badthe worst in fact
>>94237907>reeee old good people on internet said so I don't form my own opinions waaaaaahNot to mention tiers have nothing to do with how much you like a card. Og hazezon will likely be a tier 1 if they even bother tiering him lmao
>>94237907no he's t2. i don't make the rules. he just doesn't have an incredibly powerful ability just like pic rel
>>94237914>>94237917imagine being THIS bad at the game
>>94237925i just follow what wotc tells me about what is powerful
>>94237925You're embarrassing yourself anon. Tiers have nothing to do with your opinions on the card I'm sorry
>>94237972nobody said they didnobody thought that except for you its like you want to embarrass yourself
>>94237907>>94237988Mhm then what exactly does bad taste imply here anon?
Waitis tier 4 high or lowam I the retard?clearly both haz's are whatever the weakest tier is which should be tier 4 unless for some reason its tier 1
>>94238012bracket 4 is the "really powerful" bracket and iirc wotc said crucible of worlds was bracket 4 at some point and now we shitpost that hazezon is bracket 4 even tho he's not nearly that strong. that's it
>>94238012Hazezon(new) is being memed as t4 cause he's a strong commander for MLD which we know is a t4 "archetype"
>>94238025ohso I AM the retarddamn...also wtf wizards why are the tiers backwards
>>94238036>backwards?Any online game ever with ranked game modes ALWAYS uses I-IV with I being the weakest, IV being the strongestJust look at League of Legends or Overwatch, heck even Pokemon uses Tier 1 levels for their basic precons too
>>94238075Tier 1 is synonymous with high performancedon't you try to gaslight me
>>94238036>>94238075they did this so they can add more tiers in case they end up unbanning stuff that they deem "too powerful"
>>94238075Tier 0 = massively overpowered, meta warping decks/cards that are seen in 70%+ of competitive gamesTier 1 = top tier in normal metasTier 2 = offmetaTier 3 = rogueTier 4 = playground trash for children
>>94238111>wotc unbans biorythm and coalition victory>throws them in bracket 5 with all the degenerate shit>nobody gets to play them without suffering the wrath of thoracledamn
>>94237787Did they release the tuer list at aome point I'm not aware of?
>>94237811Are warriors a decent tribe? Don't think I've seen many lists around them.
>>94238165No, people just like to meme about it.
>I actually got to play games last night.Awww yiss. A great time was had by all.
>>94238075>Any online game ever with ranked game modeswhat a retarded example>heckfrom an actual retard
Are the tier lists actually out yet? What makes anyone think they'll be better than power levels?
>>94238274What deck did you go with?
>>94237787>What's your favorite tier 4 card?It's normally my emergency First Aid Kit but with Tainted Remedy out it and a huge board it becomes a bomb when targeting an opponent
>be ob>get planeswalker spark ignited>go to shandalar>get turned into ugly demon>fuck>go to zendikar to try and cure it >some elf bitch shoves one of her gay ass therapy rocks in my forehead>trapped now and cant planeswalk away>find and break her dumbass rock collection>spark finally reignites and then leave>later get forced to planeswalk to ravnica>become trapped AGAIN>farm souls and get juiced>leave after gay dragon is dead and am no longer trapped>planeswalk to whop land>have to fight wonderwoman and green arrow>leave>come back later during phyrexian invasion>immediately trapped for the third time except in a city full of greasy redditor italians >literally used over and over and over again as a C tier bad guy for dogshit sets
>>94238367No it's not out yet, and yeah it's a terrible system just like powerlevels.
>>94238367>Are the tier lists actually out yetno>What makes anyone think they'll be better than power levels?We certainly fucking don't. The normies with half a brain are going wild over them, thinking it'll fix the "EDH vs cEDH playgroup problem" at LGSs
is Yedora or Titania, Nature's Force better for just casual lands matter?
>>94238373Blurza. It was a blast, I miss crypt but he still seems well suited.
So I am very, very new to commander. I wanted to make my first deck Samwise Gamgee because he is one of my favorite characters. It was going to be a food combo deck. When looking up cards for the deck I looks like black has a lot of great cards to go with food. So I thought I could do a sam frodo deck, but then Merry and Pippin look just better, so maybe Merry and Pippin instead. Pippin also lets me go wide as a back up win con. Again looking at cards I feel like I can streamline the deck by changing the commander to either chatterfang or ygra eater of all. But then I lose white and Samwise Gamgee the original card I wanted. So what do you guys do in this kind of situation? Do you guys go for power and speed or flavor and flare? Also what is better, white removal and utility or putting a combo piece in the command zone?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
Every time I think players might be competent I remember banned as a commander was too complex of a notion for the average edh denizen.
Unban Mana Crypt
>>94238633Ban solring
>>94238582buy the Hobbit precon and test either Sam/Frodo or Merry/Pippin and go from there
>>94238623Nah players are perfectly competent, they just need to be put into a situation where they can succeed. Like people know frame data in fighting games, if edh players were expected to be knowledgable they would rise to the occassion. However a certain type of person loves to infantilize strangers and I have very little tolerance for that.
>>94238653>>94238633replace sol ring with jeweled lotus
>>94238653B& Ancient Tomb
>>94238582I'd say lean on flavor and flare. All else being equal, in a 4-player game you should only win about 25% of the time, so you need the deck to play in a way that's pleasing to you.Pursuing power and speed can be the thing you learn that you enjoy, but i find that's something you grow into once you have some basics down.
>>94238662"Edh players" encompasses demographics that are beyond hope. You can't reason with the "games must go on for hours and only end when I want to win" grognards that plague casual tables.
>>94238380I mean, he still beat up Xander at least. If anything yes probably one of the most tenacious character they've got. Was honestly expecting him to get a cowboy hat too when that set came around.
>>94238695You dont negotiate with retards and you dont negotiate with terrorists. You tell them "hey, this is banned as commander" and then you show them where it's banned. Problem solved. Same way you teach them to get better. It just takes patience and consistency; anyone can improve with enough reps.
>>94238662>Like people know frame data in fighting games, if edh players were expected to be knowledgable they would rise to the occassionAnon fighting games are unpopular specifically because people shut down at the notion of frame data.
I built a budget Thryx and I'm excited to play him, more focused on big blue COCKS like serpents and krakens and shit
>>94238815Nice bro. You playing Stormtide?
>>94238815virgin thryx vs chad goreclaw
>>94238771Fighting games are extremely popular and frame data is incredibly straight forward in modern games; training mode outright tells you. People dont like fighting games for the same reason people dont like edh, namely they have a bad mentality and are unable to adapt their strategies as competition improves. They find certain things "cheap" because they are unable to adapt, and make excuses to justify why they're actually good even though they lost. I'm a zoner and set play kind of guy, I understand how it can be frustrating when I hit you on oki with a change up or a mix up, but if you're going to play the game learning to deal with fireballs is step one, just like learning to deal with counters in magic. I dont expect someone to understand full 2 frame parry chains off supers in sf3 because it requires a lot of practice and execution, but it's pretty easy to explain how brainstorm interacts with fetches and surveil lands to be much more powerful than the sum of their parts. People are more than capable of adapting, whether they want to is a different question.
>>94238843But Thryx would win in a fight
>>94238871goreclaw brings chunkier friends
>>94238894You really think that don't you
>>94238840I couldn't find him, I thought I had one somewheres but I'm just using cards I had laying around.Some good ones>One with multiverse>Lorthos>Breaching Leviathan>Frost Titan>Thing in the ice>Caged sun>Slinn Voda
>>94238918yerp
>>94238869>Fighting games are extremely popularLmao
>>94238937*cucks you're whole board*
>>94238946thanks bro
bit tired of my predictable gimmick mana burn for 3 trillion build and want to lean more into Jund Spellslinger with this guy.Anyone has some good includes and tech, if i want to use him as a Mana Dork in the zone rather than a mana burner?
>>94238956Wow a vanilla 6/6 for 6
>>94238956I'm gonna.. I'm gonna.. I'M GONNA ENTER AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH
>>94238946My beloved.>>94238942It's true. There are about 14k active users right now on steam alone between sf6 and tekken 8.
>>94238981Decimator my beloved.
>>94238986Anon there are about 500k-1.3m active users daily on counter strike
>>94238980>needs to bounce stuff to winthats why thryx is virgin, goreclaw plays honest magic and just swings a 30/30 retard at people
>>94239044I have goreclaw too I just thought it was way less fun building big greens
>>94239054i think it's pretty fun having a board of massive dumb fucks on like turn 5
>>94239064That's cool dude enjoy!
>>94238582You need to find out what you like to do first. For me, the most important part is that my deck can somewhat reliably accomplish the "idea" of the deck. In some cases this is blowing up all permanents while my board is phased out, in other cases it's throwing a 49/49 thromok at an opponent. But you might find that flavor is more important to you, and that you're "compromising" when you go for power instead. I'd say buy a precon or construct a simple budget deck, and play with it a few times. Most people are also pretty willing to let others borrow a deck (although you will definitely play worse when it's not your own deck ofc). Get a feel for what you want to do.
>>94239001Yes anon, the most popular game of all time with a giant esports scene and multi billion dollar skin industry has many more players than two newish fighting games. I'd wager more people play either sf or tekken each month than all the users on mtgo.
>>94239044>le grug brained can't into interactionSad!
is there any reason not to use this guy in a big creatures deck?
>>94239169now i never said that
>>94239175Depends on the big creatures deck. He's only better than a hedron archive (or a card like pic related since you're in green) if you play multiple 6+ CMC creatures per turn, and also play one every turn. Niche cost reducers like this can often be noob traps.
>he thinks combos are dishonest
>>94238986Anon the genre is notorious for people picking up a game and dropping it after getting demolished.
>>94239220Reducers are better cause you can play more spells. Hedron gives 2 mana but you would still need say 12 mana to cast two 6 drops. With a reducer you can do the same with only 8 mana
>>94239140MTGO is a fossil. It's a crying shame so much good magic is played through that piece of shit program.
>>94239140>mtgoI would sure fucking hope so??? That game is over 20 years old
>>94239255The question is are you actually doing that on every turn after the reducer comes down?
>>94239257I kind of like it. It has this old school 90's patina and is all function over form. It's kind of byzantine and arcane, from installing the program to getting the cards with bots. Way better than arena in basically every possible way, even the UI. God arena is so fucking ugly.>>94239247Eh, depends. Tons of people play fighting games for single player content or with their friends, but playing any competitive game online is a recipie for a bad time if you're weak in constitution. Fighting games with your bros is peerless; my brother and his militarty friends have great fun drinking and doing dragon punches even if they arent up to snuff to play online.
I had a thought about it after someone mentioned it last thread, but the law of unintended consequences is staring me in the face, so I figured I'd run it by the thread:What would the consequences be of allowing:1. Creature cards that can become legendary to be commanders (flip cards, Tenth-District Hero)?2. Non-creature cards that can create legendary creatures (Dark Depths)?If there are any other edge cases I'd like to think them over. A few of these are a fairly easy rule 0 at casual tables, but would official support of any of these break the game?
>>94239305the strixhaven mdfc legendary creatures basically already do this, but the creature is on the front and the spell on the back. it doesn't really change much, but it would really depend at how broken any given spell is that just so happens to make a legendary token
>>94239305>Non-creature cards that can create legendary creatures (Dark Depths)?Yes please. Getting 10 snow permanents is very easy with a snow deck. 10/10 would enjoy
>>94239241Combos are an "I win" button you can press when the game needs to end. Gunning for your combo first thing is gay, but doing it when it needs to happen is based.
Post irl decks!
>>94239455What if it needs to happen as fast as possible?
>>94239467Context? Like the game has just started or someone else is about to win? These are very different scenarios.
>>94239465Don't make fun of me or my jank deck ever again
>>94239455This thinking is silly. A combo is your gameplan. It doesnt have to be your main gameplan, but it's still an integral part of winning the game. I seriously doubt you just sit there twiddling your thumbs with your wincon in hand.
>>94239519>just the tipAnon... do the whole thing
>>94239542I don't think I have enough room...it's a big deck
>>94239552
>>94239465I didn't realize how many rocks I had in the deck until I laid it all out
>foundations spoilers start tomorrow>comfy friday >rest of my cards should be coming in the mailGonna sleep well tonight Hope the new teasers bring me a couple new toys, need to see the rare land cycle be another powerful budget dual set
>>94239542Don't bully I put this together with what I had on hand
>>94239288More likely to have the chance to do so with the reducer. I'm trying to show you how reducers are not the same as hedron and "only better if casting more than one" because they open up the avenue to casting more than one each turn. Hedron doesn't!
>>94239519Seems like voltron and not very jank but I'm glad you like it anon :)
>>94239692Nevermind I thought big fishy was commander ^.^
>>94239692>>94239695the full list is above, I haven't even played it yet so I have no idea if/how it works. I put it together today after work in about an hour, excited to bring it to the store though and see how it does!
keep it or bin it?im on the verge, but casting is feels so good and like getting shit done
>>94239711keep
>>94239669>rest of my cards should be coming in the mailI've been saying this for 2 fucking weeks and they're still not here. Hopefully you don't experience the same
>>94239720Sometimes my orders come in 2 days sometimes they come in 7-10, letter mail seems to be the wild wild west these days
>>94239711100% keep. Blowing up nonbasic lands is top tier entertainment
>>94239726It's literally "within 3 days of ordering or 3+ weeks" here I hate it so much
>>94239719>>94239728based, thanks ladsi've been thinking about Cabal Coffers just after i posted and how much i hate that land
>>94239740That and Maze of Ith I see *all* the fucking time. Plus you can blow up people's Sol Rings with that spell which is also incredibly satisfying
>>94238965Forget spellslinger. Embrace Voltron.
>>94239720Man my under $5 orders ship the next day but my Polluted Delta and another quarter common took an entire week to shipI'm more excited for my latest order that shipped yesterday though, tons of necessary pieces for my decks like Helm of the Ghastlord and Phyresis, Thornvault Forager as well as Krenko, Mob Boss Impact Tremors and Siege Gang Lieutenant As long as I get my fetchie tomorrow I'll be fine haha
>>94238869>just like learning to deal with counters in magicplay blue?
>>94239685Yes, that is obvious and was already made clear from my first post. The point I'm making is that niche cost reducers (not like the medallions and such) can often be a waste because you don't make enough use of them. Sure, it's nice to be able to cast 2 6CMC creatures in a turn when you have 8 mana open, but how many turns are you not doing that? On how many turns are you casting a big sorcery instead, or multiple smaller creatures, or some big artifact or enchantment? Cost reducers aren't "better" than hedron, it completely depends on the deck and situation. For example, if you have 8 mana available with the cost reducer on the field, but the optimal play right now would be to cast a 6 mana enchantment and a 4 mana sorcery, you'd have been better served with the hedron.
>>94239241It's in a format when it's the most efficient way to win and where you can't prepare for everything and have no sideboard.
>>94239339It does mean that you have a spell which counts as a creature in pretty much every zone other than the stack.Makes for some interesting builds since it's way easier to recur creatures. Shame we only got four of them in Blex, Extus, and Jadzi.
>>94239339How does this work? Do you have to track commander tax for both sides, independently?
>>94240159No their the same card which means they share commander tax, it's better than it sounds honestly since two of them are black and Jadzi has self-recovery on her backside.
>>94240169blood avatar is pretty great too since it's a repeatable sac outlet in the command zone that effectively can't be removed
>>94239241Depends on how you telegraph yourself. If you're playing a "casual" commander, then people won't expect you to be a glass cannon combo deck. Like, who expects someone playing Veldrane to kill the table turn 2 with a buried alive combo?
>>94240198Alright spoonfeed me this. T1 land, Dark Ritual into Buried Alive? And then T2 do shit?
>>94240207Usually you want to do Buried Alive + a reanimate on the same turn, but yeah. Sol Ring, Dark Rit, Mana Vault, etc. for ramp and Vamp, Imperial, or Demonic to tutor. Get Necro Ooze into your grave and you can do something like Asmodeus/Skirge to dig and play for another combo or kill Ballista/Phyrexian Devourer if your deck is set up for it.
>>94240207It's probably reanimate Necrotic ooze and combo off.
>>94240252https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyZoe-r9qb0
>>94239349Run this in my Urza deck, I fuckin' love it. 2 mana to turn every land drop into Scry 1 is a super high floor for this card, and the sudden Marit Lage option makes people pretty nervous. I've seen it eat removal before my Commander at times.>>94239465It's about time I update the pictures post duskmourn/recent changes
>>94240452>>94239465Another one
>>94240252So, bets on his card name? This is clearly not "his card", it's focused too much on the action, but he's gonna be, what, Kefka, Mad Clown and... I dunno, flip into Kefka, Mad God?
>>94239465>>94240574>>94240452Another. Honestly I've barely tweaked this, but Aura Flux is based and it was time anyway.
>>94240676It's when he's poising that river and killed all those civilians, so it might be a reprint of something like languish, of course it could also be the poisoning of [placename]I forgot which river and where he did the poisoning, but I do remember he did it.
>>94240687Dona, I think it was.
>>94240701Doma. Was one of the two.
>>94240680Aura Flux is the most kino enchantment hate card nobody seems to know about
Finished my niko list... kinda! I need some rocks I feel, or some more interaction not sure. What I am sure about is I have two many cards in these slots. Help me trim/tell me what I'm doing wrong thanks!https://www.archidekt.com/decks/9724387/niko
>>94240680>>94239465last one for now>>94240720You're absolutely right. Once i put it down, I had a couple people ask me what it even was and why they had never heard of it since it seems to be just objectively good. On top of that, the art is already one of my favorites in MTG history. Maybe I should get a playmat of it or something if possible.
>>94240757I got it in foil - which isn't even that expensive somehow - and the old foiling treatment really makes the blue pop
>>94240764I've gotta put that on my list, it's such a good card and I can't imagine how good it's gotta look like that.
>>94239465Been having a lot of fun with this one. A few cards I want for it, but it still feels pretty tight.
>>94239241Depends on the combo. Anything that needs you to untap to win is fair. If it can only by stopped by a counterspell it should be reserved for competitive games.
New RC has the actual fucking cushiest job conceivable by man.Now instead of saying "no changes" every 3 months for free, they get paid to say "no changes" once a year.
>>94240825They get paid for it now too.RC wasn't an "actual" job
>>94240842Wait are they getting paid?
>>94240869I think the new RC is a paying job but I could be wrong
Can this be my commander?
>>94240964No.
>>94240964not officially noyou can ask your group though if you want
I have a isset tokens that kinda sucks and i’m thinking about upgrading it either into jeskai tokens or jeskai energy. What do you guys think? I’d probably do Liberty Prime for energy and Kykar for tokens.
>>94241047I'll throw Zinnia out as an option for Jeskai Tokens, it's surprisingly fun to make more of creatures that were never intended to be copied or come in multiple times in a row.
>>94241063It's not even remotely Jeskai, but I'm cooking a deck with Xavier Sal that revolves around mutating over legendary creatures, then making token copies of them to populate. It's fun to make the legendary rule into more 'legendary guidelines'
>>94241047Kykar might draw hate from strangers since that deck is occasionally built as combo. Should be fine if you have a consistent playgroup though. Only reason I could see someone harassing you about Liberty Prime is because it's UB.I haven't built either decks myself. I tend to avoid token decks since they clog up the board. Energy doesn't seem that interesting to me.
>>94238380why does he look like Steve Harvey
>>94241063>>94241077ahh interesting thanks. ya zinni seems neat too. my secret objective is just like if i ever get any good white stuff it’d be a home for it. white token related cards are actually kind of pricey. but energy cards are cheap right now and just got two precons and mh3. i haven’t played with or against it. so im not sure if its that fun but definitely cheaper than a token strategy… in jeskai anyway.
>>94239465
>>94240964No it has to start as a creature first
>>94240964Not by the official rules, but if your friends are cool and your deck isn't obnoxious they'll let you do it.
>>94240825Not true, they have the job of trying to justify WotC demanding that every good reserved list card being tier 4 and everything else being tier 3.
Been arguing with myself for a few days about whether i should try and make a deck with land destruction as a theme. Maybe not MLD, but enough to keep people on the struggle bus.I'm fairly confident that my group is mature enough to handle it, but who's the commander? what's the wincon? how do i avoid screwing myself.I'm open to any and all suggestions
>>94238380Ob and Tibalt should form a group. Then revive Chromium's wife Piru and Xenagos. Ask them to join their cause and get Baron Sengir as their last member to form their own 'Antagonist Avengers Assemble' team.
>>94241856The problem with land destruction as a theme is "what exactly is your wincon"? You're just playing hard stax at that point, in which case you're building your deck backwards. Who are you going to play that land destruction benefits?If you can't come up with a wincon which isn't just getting everyone at the table bored enough to scoop, then I wouldn't make the deck.
>>94241856MLD and Land Hate together if you wanna produce the most salt. Blood Moon, Citadel of Pain, Price Of Glory, Dwarven Miner, Dwarven Blastminer, Wake of Destruction stuff like that. The wincon for these decks are very similar: all their lands are destroyed so you gotta now outpace them and summon more shit, faster. Or they ragequit.
>>94241572>if your deck isn't obnoxious thats the part i dont get about rule 0 commanders, there are more than enough obnoxious commanders with even more obnoxious builds around >my Captcha88jank+<commanders for this feel?
>>94241856Thank God you came here to ask us and >>94241897 informed you that MLD is a boring deck. Now you're not going to make it, right?
>>94241923>Now you're not going to make it, right?We all must learn this lesson the hard way. Sure, making people scoop is a wincon, but booyyy you better be prepared for people to never ever want to play it a second time
>>94241856instead of destruction I have gone with punishing non-basics. cards like price of progress and the new lynx are examples of wincons if you copy them enough. it depends on your pod tho. won't do much if they run mostly basics
>>94241856My friend has a Zozu deck that makes people search their library for a new land after destroying oneIt is slow tho
What are some neat cards for Muldrotha? I like recycling cheap cards that sacrifice themselves for things.
>>94241897Right that's exactly what i'm asking for suggestions on, in regards to answering those questions.>>94241900Right so what are some cards to accelerate into those wins right after the land destruction hits?>>94241923I know it's a scary thought, but maybe i don't necessarily agree with that notion.>>94241927My group has faced some amount of land destruction before, and they're mature enough to not scoop.>>94241932I've tried a couple decks like that, they're decently fun.>>94241946Do you happen to remember some of the core cards for that deck? you have me curious
>>94241958>core cardsAnything that does damage for playing landsAnkh of MishraTunnel IgnusAlso some damage multiplication like TorbranAll the lands like Demolition Field
>>94240780bartholomeu and lurrus were made for each other, such a nice combination. I personally would put in some persist combos too, but cool deck anon
>>94240825i really hate that they put some "cedh" guys there too, holy shit man, if you want competitive shit just play 60 card formats, pauper, modern and legacy are all there for you, fuck off.
>>94241856There's a few ways to do land destruction as a theme. You can either use things like shivan harvest or weird combos like using Kamahl to animate your opponent's lands and then wipe the board. This is assymetrical by definition so at that point the land destruction is your wincon, as you've denied only your opponents their critical resource, while you can keep playing as normal. In decks like these artifact destruction is critical, to fully cripple the opponent.You can also go for more of an MLD theme. At that point the best way to do it is either:-hard stax + combo-running cards like jokulhaups and obliterate while also running cheap combat tricks that give your permanents indestructible, phase them out, exile them until end of turn etc. Boros is actually pretty good at this.
>>94241955Cheap enchantments are good too
>>94241932>cards like price of progress and the new lynxRunning both of those in the monored deck I built recently and they put in work. Winter Moon is also great for a two mana artifact. It affects you too, but in one color decks that are running a handful of utility lands it isn’t too bad and it brings 3-5 color decks to an ass grinding halt
>>94242111This is great. That's probably going in the list, thank you.
>>94242079Sounds like something like Hazezon might fit the bill then? He got the colours for most of those tricks you mentioned except for the hard stax+combo stuff maybe.
>>94242033>cedh exists>anon cries endlesslyThis is a grown man by the way
>>94242146I wouldn't combine all of it together, you'd lose focus then. I threw shivan harvest into my gruul token deck because it seemed like a good idea, and it's performed quite well. I have a boros deck that uses the evasive combat tricks + boardwipes that also wipe lands and that also works decently. Combining both ideas is probably not great.There's also lots of creatures that can be tapped to destroy a land, and I think there's a goblin that has an XXR ability to sacrifice it and destroy x amount of lands.
>>94242138oh yeah instead of destruction anything that renders them useless is a good way to double punish
>>94242142No problem, I love my Muldrotha deck.
>>94242168Fair point.What's the commander for your boros deck? that one sounds kind of in the ballpark for what i'd want.
>>94242189Aurelia the warleader. The idea started as an angel tribal deck (which it mostly still is) with a sunforger package. While picking out the sunforger package I realized that cards like teferi's protection, cosmic intervention and ghostway can also be used proactively before casting a jokulhaups or obliterate.
man, she is super fragile, but when you get a combo like Black Sun's Zenith plus any proliferate off, I begin to see why anon likes her.
>>94242033that's because they probably want to create some "competitve" precons or something equally as retarded
>>94240964I would allow this solely for the reason that it would be funny to see you pay 2+ mana to play a land once the commander tax starts to kick in
How long until we get a legendary dryad arbour type card. Gimme a mono green 0/1 legendary creature forest with an ability stating "cardname can be played even if you've already played a land this turn"
How would you build this guy?
>>94242030I had Vizier + Putrid Goblin, but I cut it because it felt like I needed more tutors to put it together, which just felt like watering down the deck. I want to make room for Worb and Meekstone.
>>94242511Robots aggro
>>94237787What's the issue with this one? I get 'tutoring for combo piece is... LE BAD' but it's pretty locked to once per turn as a combat trigger. Not like vannifar that'll chain to end the game as soon as she activates.
>>94242527It's boring and not flavorful at all.
>>94242527Wotc pushed it too hard
>>94242165>60 card formats exists>proceed to shit up the only casual format, because they are not skilled enough to play themCedh fags deserve the rope, simple as
>>94242527Red definitely can't get additional combats. Although I'd agree it's no worse than any other fire design monstrosity
>>94242530It's flavorful because it's like he is assembling his armor like in the movie. Cringe as fuck though.
>>94242535And 100 card competitive games exist too ^.^ I can't think of anything more pathetic than crying about people one never engages with.
>>94242527just errata all 5cmc commanders and give them haste
hello, i was curious on the ruling between Necrodominance and Sea Gate Restoration how would that interaction work and does play order matter
>>94242511make all lands into creatures and wipe
>>94242533By... letting you tutor for a sol ring for 5 mana and your combat? >>94242536>Red definitely can't get additional combats.>Just draw the extra combat card and have 3 mana to play it on top of the 5 drop bro
>>94240676I'd like god-mode Kefka's card to be called Kefka, Dancing Mad.
>>94242551You can tutor into one of the extra combat cards anon
>>94242527Commanders with tutor abilities tend to have a very linear play pattern.
>>94242530>Inventor man hero makes and invents artifacts What else was he supposed to do?
>>94242565not exist
>>94242558I can see them referencing some song names. Maybe Sagas. "Dance of the Mad Clown" for Kefka's ascension or something.
>>94242560Zamn, an equipment you can't use until the next turn unless you have instant equip speed somehow? Damn, you've opened my eyes on the potential this beast has
>>94242595You seem awfully invested in a situation you were wrong in. You don't have to *hope* to draw into it because you can tutor it. Who gives a fuck if you have to wait a turn are we saying if iron man doesn't combo off the turn he attacks there's no strength in the card? You're a bad player and a dishonest person who can't accept that they were wrong.
>>94242560You mean the one(1) card?
>>94242551>>94242595dont know if you are the same fatso, but if you have this little fantasy, no one will have an issue with your janky pile >>94242538>>94242565does he do that in combat though, or rather in his gooncave when the post nut clarity hits?
>>94242606Yes this is one of the extra combat cards.... is English not your first language?
>>94242633It's literally the only one you can tutor with him, cockgobbler
>>94242600>Who gives a fuck if you have to wait a turnBecause there are other tutor commanders that combo off and win you the game the turn they come down, whereas I'm not seeing that potential with this guy really. >You're a bad player and a dishonest person who can't accept that they were wrong.Yikes
>>94242639Yes? Nothing I said implies anything different, thank you for confirming English is not your first language>>94242640>yikesAbout? I stated there was an extra combat card you can tutor into and you are freaking out for *reasons*. It's pathetic
>>94241883Tibalt is dead
>>94242560>You can tutor into one of the extra combat cards anon>into one of the>one of the>>94242647There's only one.
>>94242527Who cares about any of them really?
>>94242535It is the fate of every casual environment or game to ever exist>comp tards begin forming>eventually take over the game>devs/designers/whatever begin to cater largely to them>casuals pushed out of their own gameMany such cases and it is why comp fags garner so much hate. They do not want to co exist. They want full control of the thing.
>>94242664this is indeed one of the extra combat cards, nothing wrong or not factual was stated here, Pablo.its still not optimal getting that thing after declare attackers happened. so you might as well just use the standard sorcery extra combats you also only could use the turn after anyways
>>94242647>and you are freaking out for *reasons*>You're a bad player and a dishonest person who can't accept that they were wrong.YikesAnyways, I discounted your extra combat card since you don't get to use it until the following turn- my initial question was along the lines of 'how does this guy win the game right when he comes down?' An extra combat trigger is good sure, but not if you have to wait a whole table rotation for it on turn 4/5
>>94242527>see tens of thousands of people brewing these commandersDid every store get super pro proxy recently? There will be less copies of this card in existence than there are Alpha Mox Sapphires. There won't be enough copies printed for all of those 50k+ decks being put on edhrec and moxfield.
>>94242678It's literally the only one you can tutor into with iron man. Only a single card. You can draw into the others, but you can't tutor into them. There is only ONE (1)! additional combat card you can tutor into with iron man.
>>94242664There is a set of cards. This set of cards gives you extra combat steps. This is one of the cards from that set of cards, and it is tutorable. Don't try to educate me please>>94242683No this definitely isn't what your original post was about but we have already established your dishonesty so we can leave it at that
>>94242690>you can Tutor into one of the extra combat cardspicrel is one of the extra combat cardsand you can tutor into it.please learn your basic english semantics or get outta here
>>94242542mind you that wotc NEVER held a 100 card singleton format seriously, you can see that we never had any sanctioned cedh tournaments ever, just kys>>94242674i agree, but with magic is EVEN WORSE, because there are like 6+ formats you can play competitively, but cedh retards CHOOSE to be complete retards and shit up the only big casual format. The only explanation is that they are so bad at magic they do not play other formats, because they are scared of being shown as frauds
>>94242716>Not like vannifar that'll chain to end the game as soon as she activates.Ok... going by my original statement what combo does with this guy do as soon as you activate him one time? Because Vannifar doesn't tutor for a card you need to wait a turn to use like your extra combat card, she just chains to end the fucking game then and there with the only additional setup being to have literally any creature besides her on the board
>anon thought there were dozens of extra combat equips>shits his pants when he's made to realize there's only one
>>94242771There's only one equipment in the game that can tutor Instants or sorceries?Sunforger stay winning
>>94242771To be fair I thought there might be morr also... but they're still not really relevant when none of them would win you the game or give you an extra combat trigger the turn they come down.
>>94242560>>94242771I made it quite clear there is only one that you can tutor into ESLanon
>>94242626agreed, he should only be able to "invent" in the postcoombat mainphase
>>94242783>casting Sunforger in Iron ManThat's cheating anon
>>94242795No I did
>>94242818Oh, we're saying there's only one IN THOSE COLORS. Got it.
>>94242725>have a haste granting effect in play like Rising of the Day>play Godo, Bandit Warlord and put Hexplate Wallbreaker in play >swing with everything except Godo, untap all, and go into a second combat>swing with everything including Godo>because it’s the first time Godo attacked this turn, he and all Samurai untap for a third swingThis works right?
>>94242333I built her for penny dreadful edh years ago when she was legal and she holds her own against most mid level decks. Her decklist now is like 2.2tix
>>94242927the fuck is penny dreadful?
>>94242934https://pennydreadfulmagic.com/Basically it's a format based around 0.01tix cards, I think it had to be updated to 0.02tix cards but I haven't played it in a while. There's a small group that builds edh decks using the ban list. It's cheap and forces you to be more creative brewing so I thought it was interesting.
>>94242934hate newfags, holy shit
>jesus anon your deck is fucking broken it destroyed us>uhhh this was a precon what?what are some interactions at your lgs that made you die of laughter
>>94242956precons have now 1 card infinites with the commander so that's no laughing matter, mister
>>94242956lmao the good player in our group did this we have a few softies that always bitched about his decks being broken/overpriced so he just started bringing precons and crushing them until they admitted he was just better and got over itI feel like people would enjoy edh more if they just checked their egos at the door
>>94243014precons have now 1 card infinites with the commander so that's not a big achievement, mister
>>94242984What? Which precon has that?
>>94242950Most players do not play MTGO
>>94242946So, how does that work in paper?
>>94243043at least the energy precon from mh3then there is the new abzan enchantment one and I heard family matters has one too but I haven't checked
>>94242856You can click on the blue numbers and it will take you to the previous post!
>>94243028>>94242984Which precon?
>>94243063>>94243099Oops. What are the combos?
>>94242956>want to start playing edh at LGS because one time per week with friends isn't enough>go during summer on a hot thursday night>can hear the commotions a block away>arrive at shop, tables and benches everywhere>packed to the brim with commander players having a good time>because of the amount of people and tables, there is no free space left to walk into the store>have to crawl over several benches with huddled together people to get to the clerks>while stepping over boards and people, I notice the extreme humidity in the room>absolutely drenched in sweat when I reach the clerks>they smile at me, try to say something>can't her them over the constant shrieking and laughing>thick pearls of sweat running over everyone's faces>shirts don't even have sweat stains anymore, they are 100% drenched>decide that this is not worth it>look a clerk in the eyes, then shake my head, spraying my sweat on everyone around me>turn around, crawl out of this cave>a cool breeze hits my dripping wet face>city air never felt so much like freedom before>got some ice cream on the way home and played my decks against each other by myself
>>94243108>>94243099not him, but I remember the dimir fairy precon caming with hullbreaker horror and sol ring
>>94241918>8/8 jank
>>94243080This is the problem when you guys do your autistic arguments that last a whole 30 hour thread. Few want to click back 200 posts of your argument. Keep it short and simple, autist.
>>94243137>Random Chinese guy is an 8/8
>>94243043pic related, yedora grave gardener and sakura tribe elder pull out every basic land from your deck. because zimone flips sakura tribe elder every time it enters as a land you can tap it in response to the etb and have a lot of green mana to cast spells from your hand
>>94243137>>94243158He's a legendary chinese guy.
>>94243158he's attacking you with a warship
>>94241955Lotus Petal seems like a auto include
>>94243136hullbreaker's bounce effect is on cast, you can't loop sol ring for infinite colorless mana. you would need another 0cmc permanent
>>94243170>1 card
>>94243190oops my bad
>>94243063I just looked at the mh3 energy precon and I can't find it. I think someone lied to you about their precon being unaltered
>>94243171Jackie chan?
>>94242956Not mtg but I saw an autistic 30 year old man have a meltie because a 12 year old Amish looking kid poked him with his eraser.
>>94243181>ancient Chinese warship is as strong as a Cybership
They really are just printing infinites in precons now though. Bello had Kodama + Bounceland infinites unaltered.
>>94243225>They really are just printing infinites in precons now though.Avoiding infinites is silly.
>>94243239It homogenizes play. We don't get new infinites, we just get the same infinites with different pieces, or sometimes just the same pieces slapped into random decks. I don't like combos because the players who like that shit genuinely look like they're going to cry if you stop them from winning.
>>94243225>>94243239There's nothing wrong with a deck being capable of hitting an infinite combo.People will get salty if your decks purpose is to win with it though. Like tutoring or having it in the cz, ie Stella, but drawing into it is part of the randomness and interaction of games.
>>94243158That's motherfucking Zhou Yu.
>>9424325250 dollar decks can do infinites. If 50 dollar decks are too much for you then just find another game.
>>94243225Yeah but the post said 1 card with commander this is a 3 card minimum that needs all pieces drawn into much more acceptable
>>94243258Why is he stronger than Frank Horrigan?
>>94243058Just check the legality on scryfall?
>>94243272The format makes no sense.>if this stops being 1 tix then your deck is invalid
>>94243280Yes anon its a rotating format, it's fun to brew new decks every season. And it's cheap enough that brewing a bunch of decks every season is viable.
>want to build a deck that can function several ways>pic related would be perfect as you could grab anything for the right situation>because he's a tutor in the command zone it's shunnedcan't have SHIT
>>94243262Anon there are two piece combos that go for less than a dollar please shut up and read. I don't have trouble dealing with them, I have trouble dealing with the players using them being fixated on winning with them having a meltdown when I stop them because infinites attract the worst personality types.
>>94243266Because he's motherfucking Zhou Yu
>>94243298Last time I played against someone running this he apparently kept hand with 1 swamp and sol ring. So t2 he swung and tutored.No one noticed he missed a land drop t2.So on my turn we all thought he had a really strong start so I used pic to get rid of tutored cardIt was a swamp.
>already have 10+ tribal decks>decide to try and make a new deck for a change of pace >think up what I want to play >five hours later I've just brewed up another tribal deckI don't know why I bother.
>>94243298>5 mana total to tutor to the top of your deck the turn after you cast him unless you have haste and then you get that card the turn after that unless you also have something letting you draw Is this dude really that bad? Seems like enough working against him that he’s not broken and presumably the three other people you’re playing with won’t make it easy to tutor regularly
I'm going to warm up some soup and goldfish my stupid deck
>>94243370>tribal>brewing anythingbro, you just pick 25 creatures of the same type and the usual tribal goodstuff.deks, it's the most uninspiring shit ever
>>94243239>>94243254yeah but that means the decks are not as low power as people make them out to be
>>94243371If you've got haste it might be likely that you're getting unblocked if you were starting player, which means you can just grab something like Mithril Coat to ensure your commander isn't going to die trying to activate it's boast ability from combat.
>>94243298>>can't have SHIT>waaaaah I can't have EVERTHING
>>94243399t. Has never brewed a tribal deck before
>>94243298Is that heckin Tiffany?
how much is the magic number for redundancy cards per deck?for example>each creature/token has "tap for mana"I feel like I should bring more than 3
>>94243523Chucky is one of the first trans-progressive franchises in mainstream media, Wizards should be honored by getting this collaboration
>>94242333Play her with Yawgmoth, Thran Physician.You pay 1 life and sac a creature to draw a card and put a -1/-1 counter on a creature. Every time you place a -1/-1 counter, you get a snake. Which you can then sacrifice to put a -1/-1 counter on a creature, and make a new snake.This ability lets you draw cards as long as you have sac fodder. It can also act as a one-sided board wipe. If you have Blowfly Infeststion, Chatterfang or any token doubler then you can make a fuck load of creatures.
>>94243221To be fair it's more like he's attacking you with his entire fleet.
>>94243645>how much is the magic number for redundancy cards per deck?depends largely on how many cards you expect to draw on average each game.Let's say you are not playing blue.Your opening hand is 7you get one free mulligan but lets ignore that for now just know that it makes finding cards easier you also get one free card draw at the beginning of your first turn so 8.Let's say you want to get to 2 or 3 creatures before an effect like Earthcraft. add 2 more free card draws for turn as you developyou get to see about 10 cards so if you had 10 copies of an effect like that your chances to draw one by turn 3 is 67.4%. This is why cantrips are so fucking good, imagine adding an extra 3 cards seen for 1 mana and increasing your odds to 77.3%. sourcehttps://aetherhub.com/Apps/HyperGeometric
>>94242689I dunno, last week I was playing with a guy who was running Elden Ring themed proxies.If you don’t call attention to yourself by proxying up a $3000 deck then who would even care enough to complain?
>>94243733>cantrip good in edhLmao
>>94243739Usually it is the shop owner
>>94243733interesting, thanks anon. I don't need those effecta before t4-6, and my draw gets easily gets me 5-10 extra cards until then.
>>94243745They might be too slow for competitive but for casual edh they are more than just good, they are great as shown in my previous post.
>>94243876Lived experience > some retarded autists numbers. They are objectively bad in edh especially when genuine card draw can be found for comparable costs
We're getting the first spoilers for the Final Fantasy set tomorrow and as much as it shames me, i'm so fucking hyped
>>94243884>lived subjective experience>objective wewhow many one drops give you card advantage?preordain gives you the draw odds equal to having a 79 card deck by itself. Once you start playing with cantrips you wont go back its just incredibly obvious they are good even by the caveman methods you use to judge card value.
>>94243937>once you STARTAnon... playing with cantrips is where everyone starts and where everyone moves away from because they are useless in this format. And yes, when the overwhelming majority of deck builders move away from something because their collective lived experience has deemed it bad that is one method by which humans come to an objectively superior solution (real card draw), can't believe I'm saying this but read Rand
>>94243933Why are you ashamed, anon? You needn't automatically disapprove of things you like just because you might not like things related to it (like Final Fantasy but dislike Hasbro/WotC)You can do both. You can just proxy the cards.
Sure would be great if I could play a 6 cmc commander and get an untap step. Games too fast for my liking.
>>94243953If you want to leave cheap value on the cutting room floor be my guest, I on the other hand will gladly spend one mana to fix my draws at basically any point in the game.
>>94243953>read Randholy guacamole, that is a next level way of advertising your own idiocy.
>>94243991Anon if two cultures meet and one doesn't find murder wrong and the other does do you know what happens?>>94243989Sure and I will beat you with my full grip thanks to actual card draw lol
>>94243953Hey so where is that 1 mana card draw advantage you spoke about earlier?
>>94242182I love this little guy like you wouldn't believe. That and Haywire Mite carry the deck.
>>94243184I've thought about it, but I've rarely wanted an extra mana over other cheap artifact utility.
>>94244009waitwaitwaitwhat if weand follow me on this onewhat if wewhat if what if we we put cantrips AND card advantage in a deck? I mean that's crazy right? like what if we could put more efficient card advantage in and cut some of the less efficient cards for sorting so that we get to the more efficient cards more consistently? That way if you are digging for something that isn't card draw you can find that too! Man this is some ground breaking shit!THANK YOU ANON!
>>94244014Well first I said comparable cost never 1. But you got esper, remora, benthic, betrayal, burning, combat/curiosity, keen sense. Just off the top of my head all engines or better than a single card forc1 mana which is dogshit.
>>94244047oh so you are just retarded, got it.
>>94244044Why would I put suboptimal cards in when I can just include..... more, and better card advantage options that cost the same or maybe 1 mana more but will net me more cards to select from. Think I'll go with that because it is very clearly superior >autist spergs out because no one cares about his numbers
>>94243298Tutors in the command zone are shunned for most players to play them themselves, because people actually do enjoy their Singleton fromat and dont want to rely on the same 5 cards in the deck everytime, not necessarily because they dont want to play against it.also tutoring on top is pretty mild, compared to shit like Light-Paws, i think Varragoth can be a fun mid tier Voltron
>>94243973stop trying to match pace. boardwipe then play. if theyre carrying free protection tell them to kill themselves and then go to a lower power pod
>>94244052>where are the cards that meet this specification you never stated>Well I never said that but here are some that do!>ermm.... retard!!!!!!Huh?
>>94244075those examples are what make you look retardedBenthic Biomancer? Keen sense? You are jumping through hoops to be less efficient than ponder assuming you don't get 2 for 1'd in the process. >>94244053I do not agree. spending more mana to draw more cards, time walks yourself when you could spend less mana, and have a higher compression of efficient cards and utilize your curve better.
>friends build me an Orvar deck as a "sorry your family member died" gift>it's a very budget Orvar deck and I have never played it nor really know what Orvar decks do>it is also built to focus on meme fallout bobbleheads>win anywayWow. Orvar is bullshit lmao
>>94244140You are bad at the game and dishonest no interest in discussing the game at you. You are welcome to lose while screeching at the numbers about why you shouldn't I will sit pretty with by 75% win rate drawing actual cards
>>94244181This has been nothing but a reasonable discussion. If you have an issue with the conversation the issue is with you.
>>94244181>I will sit pretty with by 75% win ratepost list, cantriplet.
>replying to the humiliation fetishist
>>94240252We got images now? Didn't think we had any yet. Any idea on what any of them do or what games they'll cover?
>>94240252It's too bad I have never played a single FF
>>94242956>your deck was really strong and wiped us all out>it's just a precon>only your commander, everything else is not in that precon>uuhhAnd now he only plays against other high powered decks and mostly loses all the time, because other people with low powered decks won't play against him at my lgs.
I am brewing Red Deck Wins for edh and I have had some mild success with Heartless Hidetsugu but it has been drawing too much aggro. Would Neheb the eternal fly more under the radar?
>>94242956Before Commander Legends I had a pirate deck that was almost all whatever shit from Ixalan and a few really old piece of shit pirate themed cards like Skeleton Ship and Sky Pirates. I said it wasn't a very good deck because it wasn't.I cast Revel in Riches because the board was full of creatures. The next player wiped the board of creatures, and then no one had any enchantment removal so I won on my next upkeep.Then they complained my deck was too strong. I didn't even do the actual board wipe.
>>94242956>long ass game circa 2014>down to two players>sitting at 4 life>have a fuckhuge Vorosh the hunter, more than enough counters to kill with commander damage>opponent is sitting at 34>has a grave titan and 2 zombie tokens>swings grave titan and two zombies>if I don't block the titan Im dead >block a token>cast tainted strike on grave titan>go down to 2>dude fucking sign in bloods me>I lose
>>94244362neheb would draw more aggro from me than heartless.
>>94244362I don't think you can have it both ways. Almost any commander that helps quickly burn the table down is inherently not going to fly under the radar against players that can read.
>>94244396kek thats awesome
>>94244417I kinda assumed playing RDW in edh would give you a little more room since every incentive is stacked against you.
>>94244462EDH players think a blue player with a full grip and 7 mana is less threatening than a 10/10 dinosaur.
>>94244477Well that's disturbingGuess I'll stick with HH for now.
>>94242956nobody ever expects pic relatedturns out combat math CAN matter in edh lol
>>94244396i love these shard and wegde dragons so fucking much, they scream quintessential EDH to me.What are your favorites, which ones are the most viable considering todays standards?
These sleeves are psychological warfare
>>94244564BASEDI spent the last 12 years brewing them I have several lists for each and I cry ever time I play them these days because the truth is they always kinda sucked but now they REALLLLLLY suck.
>>94244564My fav, and IMO probably the strongest (but still crept out of the game) combat + mana just to do its thing on a 6 mana non-hastey is just too much.
>>94244588>>94244626i started playing commander around 2019, and i dont have any of them myself, but i get this warm and fuzzy feeling of second hand nostalgia everytime i look at them and i root for them every time i see someone play them online.maybe i can get some friends together to build one of each with the restriction of only using cards pre 2019 or something
>>94244686That sounds like a swell time>>94244626IMO the strongest of the bunch is Crosis, or at least I had the best luck with him. Persecute is a hell of a card in the right scenario and even in the wrong one it still fucks shit up. You can pretty confidently plan to use the ability of any of these dragons once a game and so it better be at least somewhat impactful. Vorosh might be my favorite but also I'm convinced hes the worst. I have had better luck with even Treva if only because she doesnt paint a big target on her head.
>>94244709forgot pic
>>94240757>>94240680>>94240452>>94240574it is frankly amazing that you put together this many decks and not. a. single. onme. is any good.
>>94244564I still use Treva as two decks: one enchantress; the other old-border only.
>>94244727Shitpiles are based
>>94244709that tech would work well with Darigaaz, no?but frankly, Crosis resource denial is really brutal, he would probably dominate a pod build around theses dragons
>>94244727begone cEDHfag
>>94244740>building bad decks is goodcringe>>94244754>anything better than shit is cedhcringe
>>94244751well that "tech" is just crosis' abilitythe card I play in darigaaz is head games which is really fun, the darigaaz deck I like the most plays a lot like boomer jund, its a handful of static discard effects and creatures that double as interaction
>>94244764I feel so sorry for you.
>>94244778that is just fucking cool, do you have the lists online somewhere so i can take a look?
>>94244727all of sword's decks look pretty good
>>94244764>You HAVE to build good deckswhy?
>>94244798Please don’t encourage my faggot son. I need him to find other hobbies so he stops being so overweight and insufferable.
>>94244790I'll upload it later tonight I still have it in paper, looking at my archive the only version I have online is the one where I was obsessed with trying to kill people with infect creatures and warstorm surge which worked the first time I played it and only that one time. I was just trying to chase that high. I do not recommend.
>>94244825This didn't work in /dbdg/
>>94244834Dead By Daylight has a general, and people hate that tripfaggot there too? Lmao.
>>94244876DBD has had a general on this site for like 8 years bro. It's a pretty big game.
>>94244833>commander used to be a format where dumbasses repeatedly tried to pull off dumb, low probability shitThis is a myth right?
>>94244876he was between and hero and an autist, facecamping bubba main who had some crazy high win rate despite not ever doing anything>>94244896literally has always been a myth
>>94244896>>94244899>imagine not playing edh before 2018
>>94244876>people hate that tripfaggot there too?It was roughly the same as here with some being fine with him and others hating him because of chanology era anon is lejun shit. It's hard to give much of a shit about him there when that general has had namefags who spammed CP, or guys like that farquaad fucker.
>>94244896SOVL
>>94244914>attributing distaste of tripfags to chanologyTrips are on the site so a line of questioning/dialogue can be traced to one source, not so some dipshits can attention whore.
>>94244896There was a time where the dumber and lower probability an interaction was the betternow that was just in my local meta, when I would travel to other states people would get a kick out of my shitty decks but largely played battlecruiser goodstuff piles
>>94244931If this was true it would be banned by the rules.
>>94244931>not so some dipshits can attention whore.eMErGenT GAmePlaY
>>94244931>a line of dialoguesword makes it pretty clear that he always posts with trip so you can filter and makes his posts followable so its one dialogue
>>94244991I wish more of you all used trips so I could filter you when you do one of your 6 hour arguments
>>94244727>Sidar deck is generally strong with lots of protection/removal>Urza is cedh>Coram is clearly his autistic lovechild but looks like it plays well>Zinnia is generic impact tremors etb goodstuff with tons of expensive doublerslooks like they're all actually good but just obnoxious to play against
>>94244337that is the only image we got currently. More are supposed to come out at a panel? starting like right now.
>>94245012>Urza is cedhurza hasnt been cedh in years
>>94244583That’s rookie shit anon.You can make your opponents so much more uncomfortable by getting some anime booba sleeves.
>>94245036this but loli sleeves
>>94245027that is a straight up lie
>>94245027Idk I still see urza a bitIdk what tier it is but you gotta realize people sometimes just play decks they likeI still play doomsday grenzo sometimes, its still cedh its just not a great cedh deck
>>94245040based? which character?>>94245043urza is fringe at best and almost never wins in the modern meta compared to kinnan, neheb, morophon, azalask, winota, thras+tymna, rog+si, etc.
>>94245078>winotaI thought all the cEDH kids said she was unplayable post bans?
>>94245095you cant win turn 2 anymore but she's still broken as fuck
>>94245036>>94245040>uncomfortable if they're not a pervert>distracted if they are a pervertToo bad the sleeves also works on yourself.
>>94245078Is this a post crypt ban thing?I havent played since
What do you imagine when you think of the word "Angel?"Here is what Wizards does.
>>94245266>What do you imagine when you think of the word "Angel?"A race that isn't 100% female. So WOTC has failed that since day 1. Same shit with demons.
>>94245266>warrior woman with feathered bird wings and armoryeah, that's an angel
>>94245266The one on the left is stunning from the neck down
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>>94245266Looks like they took a monk and gave it wings
>Gay Bolas was real
>>94245401>>94245401>>94245401
>>94245266nice, i love me a bald bitch
>>94245036It's a woman playing those. I guess she loves gortash from bg3. She was playing a modified Winter precon Maybe I need to have big titty sleeves for a counter offensive.
>>94245014Surprising. Here's hoping we get something interesting. I'm gunning for Emperor.
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>>94245642post the ffx image, coward
>>94245807its together forever.
>>94245867I am praying that they give FFX and FFIX as much love as they deserve, given they are by far the best games in the franchise.Is that actually a reprint of Together Forever? or are you just playing a prank?
>>94245883its a reprint of together forever. https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/final-fantasy?utm_source=debut_video&utm_medium=vanity_url&utm_campaign=fin_teaser
>>94245910>it's actually a reprint of Together ForeverI'm torn because on one hand, that's extremely sweetand on the other that's not what fucking happens and I'm gonna scream also the card isn't that awesome. I can actually feel them attacking my wallet directly with FFX cards given it's one of my two favorite games of all time.Thank you for the information, anon.
