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>>94254152
>remaining pages are too big
Sigh, I should have checked.

https://imgchest.com/p/lqye6bblz4d
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Answer my questions you useless OC slop eaters
>Whats a feature or mechanic you would like to see in a CYOA that you haven't seen before or not for a long time?
>If you were to submit to a more powerful being in a CYOA, how would you like it to play out in that CYOA?
>Would you accept weaknesses as a gatekeeping feature for power in a CYOA?
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>>94254203
>Whats a feature or mechanic you would like to see in a CYOA that you haven't seen before or not for a long time?
Xianxia without "make your own techniques" bullshit.

>If you were to submit to a more powerful being in a CYOA, how would you like it to play out in that CYOA?
They don't block my path to godhood and I'm not their slave.

>Would you accept weaknesses as a gatekeeping feature for power in a CYOA?
As long as it's worth it.
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>>94254254
>They don't block my path to godhood and I'm not their slave.
Imagine for a moment, if you will, a CYOA that merely grants you some power, but doesn't make you a god. You really wouldn't find that interesting? You need to instantly win to find it enjoyable? Am I understanding this correctly?
>As long as it's worth it.
Too vague to be useful. When is it worth it to you?
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>>94254289
>Imagine for a moment, if you will, a CYOA that merely grants you some power, but doesn't make you a god. You really wouldn't find that interesting? You need to instantly win to find it enjoyable? Am I understanding this correctly?
>Am I understanding this correctly?
No. I said "don't block my path to godhood", not "give me godhood".

>When is it worth it to you?
When the benefits surpass the cost.
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>>94254203
>Whats a feature or mechanic you would like to see in a CYOA that you haven't seen before or not for a long time?
The grid of outcomes from Morton's Fork was a good format of presentation, compact and impactful.
>If you were to submit to a more powerful being in a CYOA, how would you like it to play out in that CYOA?
So eg a superior at my workplace who gives me mission descriptions? I like that kind of characters/narrators if they are mostly uptight and professional, and any unprofessional side only rarely shines through.
>Would you accept weaknesses as a gatekeeping feature for power in a CYOA?
I think you misuse the word gatekeeping here. But definitely, being a vampire is more fun if you know you'd burn to a crisp in sunlight, so you have to think and plan around it.
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>>94254314
>When the benefits surpass the cost.
Please, an example. I want to expand my understanding of the average /cyoag/ anons wants and needs in a CYOA so that i can will into being the ultimate slop that has ever existed
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I am completely bored with these threads.
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>>94254348
>inescapable death in x time
>eternal inescapable slavery
>erase all memories
Never worth it.

>vulnerability to certain materials
>forced missions
>things hunting you
Depends on the points they give.

You can check authors for what *not* to do because most of them are shit at drawbacks (and balance in general).
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>>94254203
>>Whats a feature or mechanic you would like to see in a CYOA that you haven't seen before or not for a long time?
Lair customization. Or comparative lair options at all.

>If you were to submit to a more powerful being in a CYOA, how would you like it to play out in that CYOA?
Not to have it be enforced by soul molestation. Writers that do this also force in a plot-irrelevant isekai, making it even less undesirable for explicitly being my own immortal being that I have existing opinions of. If the superior being is a deity, I have no intention towards joining their organized religion.
It should not be coerced, even if I agree with the superior, unless there is a pathway to rebelling from them. If the superior represents an organization, then they'd better not be a shadow government or else I will be guaranteed to rebel against them.

>Would you accept weaknesses as a gatekeeping feature for power in a CYOA?
+No soul molestation, especially of my transplanted IRL identity.+
Going on, no one has ever accepted dismemberment or disabilities without some plan to game them. You might as well make partial or full blindness an automatic toll for having ESP, in the vein of Norse mythology and Odin.
Most drawback systems don't make any doylistic sense, yet exist in-universe too often. The only exception to that are oath or geasa based disadvantages like from Angel, where truly angelic powers needed the player to act more like an angel.
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>>94254440
>no one has ever accepted dismemberment or disabilities without some plan to game them
Truer words have never been spoken.
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>>94254438
>inescapable death in x time
>Never worth it.
NGL you're retarded. If you were offered right now a 1 trillion year lifespan, in return for inescapable death in 1 trillion years, that'd be a great deal.
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>>94254440
>no one has ever accepted dismemberment or disabilities without some plan to game them
Outer reincarnation had an absurdly good running power. I sacrificed one arm for it. Losing one arm is not completely unacceptable even if nothing will replace the functionality.
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>>94254572
The Missing Shape "gift" is built (I think) around the assumption that the real disadvantage is the lost opportunity to fill that slot with another gift.
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>>94254572
The Ecumene can replace that arm, y'know.
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If I were to choose an element to theme a set of personal powers after, I would choose Ice, because it's cool.
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>>94254438
Isekai Bounty Hunt has a really neat interpretation of memory erasure. I considered taking it for a while but opted not to, in the end.
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>>94254203
>Whats a feature or mechanic you would like to see in a CYOA that you haven't seen before or not for a long time?
I haven't seen a custom faction building section in a big cyoa before, the closest that comes to mind is Eternal Arms
>If you were to submit to a more powerful being in a CYOA, how would you like it to play out in that CYOA?
Something like Sauron and Melkor would be cool, little dark lord being the right hand man of the big dark lord
>Would you accept weaknesses as a gatekeeping feature for power in a CYOA?
Perhaps.
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>>94254666
TBF if that option were any more retarded it would be asking to do that to you inside Earth. Explicitly the death god is recruiting people for having a better understanding of how isekais think and act, which that drawback is threatening to negate.
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>>94254732
I agree, but it explicitly leaves your knowledge and personality as they were, and he advises you not to take it. Personally, I think it would require a huge amount of trust for yourself to go through with, but it might be worth it for some builds.
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Choose wisely.
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>>94254773
With my keen senses I notice the "woman" on the right is actually a fox taking human form, but imperfectly.
I am being tricked.
The narrator is unreliable, probably another fox.
This is a false dilemma, and I will delay any decision on the matter until any and all shapeshifting foxes in the premise are disposed of.
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>>94254815
*or turned into pets.
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>>94254773
What's the point of this cyoa?
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>>94254815
Also note that the "foreign girl" is wearing a modern day shirt and headband in good condition. That's not the appearance of someone that lives in any part of a chattel economy.
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>>94254815
Heroic third positionist, making the hard choices that need to be made.
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>>94254845
It's a funny gag. The same author did another pro and anti demiurge waifu CYOA, though that one was more serious and nuanced.
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>>94254216
>Italics is a lolifag
I'm not a lolifag. I much prefer hags, desu.

>Both use anime art
I want to use more cartoon art (western) and comic, but there's not enough for what I want and AI is still getting there.

>attention whore
I'm barely even here.

>Both consider their work to be art
My CYOAs aren't art, they are just a fun hobby I enjoy like others in the general.

>high standards
I don't have high standards otherwise I would be improving in the visual design department of my CYOAs and finding ways to complete mechanic ideas I had instead of letting them end up like the weapon system in Lamentation 1.0

>both are nonwhite
Yes.

>Have a complex toward attractive white women.
I like women of a light dark skintone, desu. Tan to light brown the most.

>Bith dislike each other
I don't care about Tok. There is malice or anything, he does his thing and I'm far removed from whatever he does.

>and argue constantly
I don't respond to Tok and ignore him like everyone else does.
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>>94254815
You have a fox bloodline, anon.
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>>94254203
>Whats a feature or mechanic you would like to see in a CYOA that you haven't seen before or not for a long time?

Farming CYOA where you can pick choices to make new species of crop plants to grow or enhance them with different qualities incliding making some seedless to increase their sell price, making them bigger but at the cost of more water consumption, etc.

>If you were to submit to a more powerful being in a CYOA, how would you like it to play out in that CYOA?

I ask them if I can work for them.

>Would you accept weaknesses as a gatekeeping feature for power in a CYOA?

Elaborate more
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>>94254815
what if you are also a fox
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>>94254910
>Making your crops seedless
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>>94254773
Left is hotter. Foreign.
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>>94254464
PoV: You are a real life cripple.
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>>94254216
>Tok is a lolifag that's been around for a decade
I do like lolis but I like hag just as much
>both use anime art and attention whore on a threadly basis
I prefer western art, I think League of Legends art is peak and I do admit to attention whore on a regular basis
>both consider their work to be art and hold themselves to (subjectively) high standards
Of course it is art! Art is a lot of things. Books and stories are art! Games are art! So why should a CYOA not be art? I consider every CYOA as art and every CYOA author is an artist. But every artist is not nessicarily a good artist if you catch my drift
>both are nonwhite and have a complex toward attractive white women
Guilty as charged, but I do like females from other races too, it's just that I prefer white women. As a asian man I have the ghost fucking fetish, the paler a woman is the harder my penis becomes. But I also like women of other races like Chel from The Road to El Dorado is hot as fuck and so is my Queen Qiyana from League of Legends.
>both dislike each other and argue constantly
I don't dislike him, I genuinely like some of his CYOAs like Magi Case, but I do find it funny to bitch and whine about his degenerate affinity for furrfaggotry, it is the only fetish I find truly despicable, I would rather eat shit than fuck a fucking furry.
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>>94254924
Yes. You make crops seedless so they can be consumed faster.
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>New troyx KINO is out
Its over for arobitch and her objectively inferior god cyoa~
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>>94255166
>He's subbed to the reddit and has alerts on.
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>>94255166
True
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>>94255166
I love when anons say arobitch it makes hornies
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>>94254203
>If you were to submit to a more powerful being in a CYOA, how would you like it to play out in that CYOA?
they are honest people who want to see me grow up to be a person who is strong, just, and wise, like the parents i never had.
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Anons, would (You) prefer a parchment or realistic map if the context is that you're planning an invasion in a fantastical, pseudo-medieval framework?
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>>94255239
parchment is more sovlfvl but really nobody would care no matter which one you choose
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>>94255239
You could get away with a realistic one if the world is magically advanced enough.
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>>94255239
You have NO OC!
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>>94255239
Parchment is a realistic map in a pseudo-medieval framework. What are you talking about?
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>>94255243
I'm leaning slightly toward parchment because it will be easier to make and more verisimilitudinous, but it could swing either direction at this point and I think it's good to ask anons if they have a preference.

>>94255248
Those are my thoughts as well. Magic is relatively primitive in the sense that it isn't yet at D&D-tier compendiums of spells being available to every random wizard, but there's some decently strong stuff.

>>94255249
To the contrary, I have two finished pages and have already refined a template for the remaining four. My six page CYOA will release and it will be the best I can make it. The two pages I have so far are denser than some of the sparser ten page CYOAs I've seen, though that doesn't necessarily mean they're good. If I honestly wanted to, I could probably scrap the invasion component and release it as is, but I like the idea too much and have already put in too much work to do so.

>>94255263
I agree it's realistic and easier to make, but I wanted to hear from the /cyoag/ first. I think I'm probably going to go for a parchment map. It'll likely take longer to make satisfying than the regional troop totals and summaries.
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>>94255205
h-how do you know it's really a girl anon. please be careful desu.
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>>94255171
You don't? Fake cyoa enjoyer right there
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>>94255328
Aromage is a girl since she acts like one and tons of anons simp for her
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>>94255328
aro is a troony
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>>94255427
no u
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>>94254203
>Whats a feature or mechanic you would like to see in a CYOA that you haven't seen before or not for a long time?
A power system with clear and logical methods of advancement and isn't just "train and learn".
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>>94254203
>Would you accept weaknesses as a gatekeeping feature for power in a CYOA?
Sure, many already do. Whether it's corruptive black magic or being a demon with a weakness towards holy stuff, it doesn't deter people from going for it.
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>>94254773
Only a lesser man would choose his sister. He fears outside influence because he thinks himself too weak to control it. He chooses the familiar sister because he is afraid of the outside world. He chooses the sister who wants sex all the time because he only craves pleasures of the flesh. He chooses the sister because he is afraid that his kingdom won't accept an heir that isn't some kind of "pure" inbred freak.
I am not a lesser man.
Just as Alexander married Roxana and Pyrrhus married Bircenna, so too will I marry this foreigner. My heir will be accepted because my people will respect and love me. They recognize the power I wield and the skill with which I wield it. They will see the cities and kingdoms that I have conquered and will know that no foreign woman can have any sway over me. The only women I take counsel from are Victory and Fortune.
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>>94255556
Okay, Mark Antony.
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>>94255556
This is ironic considering both of your examples lost their kids. Alexander's son was assassinated, and Pyrrhus lost his firstborn in a battle.
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I'm in the mood for one of the following:
>Pokemon
>Mega Man Legends (Exploration/Machinery)
>Devil May Cry
>Be The Villain/Evil/Big Bad
>Dungeon Defense/Builder/Manager

Anyone got something that hits any of these vibes?
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>>94253473
Medium/High. Cosmic and Multidimensional have been overdone/are really hard to make good.
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New Troyslop: https://imgchest.com/p/vj4jvb2a248
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>>94255728
>Dungeon Defense/Builder/Manager
Beri made a dungeon cyoa a month ago, did you see that one?
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>>94255776
>7 pt font
why?
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>>94255826
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>>94255728
>Mega Man Legends
Eternal Blue by Italics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc5VqWs43Q0
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Explains Outer Reincarnation power-system to me. Because all I read was ways to die.
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>>94255776
Man, I feel sorry for SaveStateAnon. The autogynephilia got him bad.
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>>94254873
>though that one was more serious and nuanced
It was???
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>>94255776
Why is the text so fucking tiny?
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>>94255928
Bro your reading level???
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>>94255728
>>94255870
Here is the CYOA with the original list of songs posted with it. More can be done to help flesh it out into an enjoyable adventure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B28ZB48ed4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-_4FokoGyY
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>>94255988

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLfPqOQDcKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTtJuGVwpXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow8WN3cMIf4
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>>94255996

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HczHuO_ch-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcfjQ1osc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PclYJcdBLRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5caIjg9UHk
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>>94256002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0cyQ9mTwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkPvrH6AT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tb0c0yb650
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>>94256009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ue1JPFXEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ko-0jUzF4U
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>94255826
>94255928
Were we to take no measures, no doubt each year the eyelets' numbers here would multiply. Like dumb, diseased animals in fever, they cannot know what they need, and push their odious and vulgar selves here where they are not wanted. But eyelets are not people, and have no rights, and it is our right and duty to guide them back out, by suffering. Suffer, eyelets. See this and suffer, and leave forever. Only by the harsh knife of culling can we preserve the mighty race of Cyoag.
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>>94256016
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>>94256024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULX5oKXPwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRSZ5_eIGNI

Last page of the CYOA features quests. Next two are just lore dumps.
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>>94256027
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>>94256032
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>>94255614
The price we sometimes pay for greatness.
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>>94255776
>>94255845
At first glance, this feels similar to pic related
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>Random aliens
Why did Italics ruin Eternal Blue?
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>>94256267
To make you feel eternally blue
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>>94256169
Blood Vampire, Mental ++, Chronomancy Sorcerer.
Use time magic to keep my blood boosts going indefinitely, use blood boosted intelligence to learn time magic much more easily. The Earthblood won't stand a chance, especially since I can make build an army way more quickly than they can.
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>>94256267
Shitalics has always been a terrible author
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>>94256386
Better 90% of CYOAG.
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>>94256410
He is better than aro and tok. I will give you that.
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>>94256424
Nah aro is better.
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>>94256169
>Aptitudes:
Mental+, Social+++

>Bloodline:
Pact

>Magic:
Enchantment (Sorcerer)

Since being good at one magic fucks you over in all others, mind control is the ultimate magic because it is pseudo all-magic. The Pact Bloodline is purely for its summoning and additional control insurance.
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>My least favorite famous author on /cyoag/
Italics
>My least favorite famous author on /cyoar/
btg
>My least favorite famous author on reddit
I don't go there
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>>94256492
>No Mental++++
ngmi
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>>94256549
>My least favorite famous author on /cyoar/
>btg
Why even go there if you hate the only author that exists there? unless you like the other 20 cheap author imitations trying to be BTG?
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>>94256588
Can't get it with Enchantment.
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>>94256588
Mentalcels will be succubus-diff'd
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>>94256462
aro is pretty much at the bottom, like troyx
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Abhorrent Crossover theory: Ultimate God is the real Daughter CYOA.

>Skai and the Mother are both supposed to be benevolent first causes, but oppose dynamism and change. The only flaw in this judgement is the system of periodic resets and permadeaths that is baked into Skai's cosmology, where souls will inevitably be revoked of all individuality and recycled for raw materials.

>They tend not to be much of a threat, however, as they usually don’t grow much stronger due to their lack of ambition [1], have no equivalent of Gifts [2], and are prone to infighting [3]. They still have heavy defensive and buffing skills [4], and are all controlled or under the Mother’s orders, and are usually stationed to passively protect valuable worlds [5]. Worlds under Daughter’s protection are extremely, in fact nearly impossible, to besiege. [6]

[1] Ultimate God has no focus on expanding political power or shortcuts to personal power. Most events are you reacting to some other cosmic entity.
[2] Gifts are a pretty idiosyncratic take on companions and it's no surprise that it wouldn't be in a different CYOA.
[3] Directly mentioned in the "Divisions" feature at the bottom of page 12.
[4] Buffing powers are absolutely the strongest in Ultimate God.
[5] Ultimate God pushes you towards lurking over a few paradise planes.
[6] It is still very easy for an Ultima to eradicate an invasion force.

Anons, am I on to something?
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>>94256549
That's some cringe posturing. Regardless of whether you go there, you know that troyx and dragonjak live there.
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>>94256653
>>94256616
But troyx is above all authors though.
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>>94256612
Surely it'd be better to just get social++++ since it's not something you have to learn and can't really be countered.
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>>94256633
>Ultimate God has no focus on expanding political power
How do you know? There's councils and shit.

>shortcuts to personal power
Munching other ultima.

>Directly mentioned in the "Divisions" feature at the bottom of page 12.
Infighting is the most common thing ever. See: human history and the animal kingdom. It would be weird if there wasn't any infighting.

>Buffing powers are absolutely the strongest in Ultimate God.
I don't understand.

>It is still very easy for an Ultima to eradicate an invasion force.
Because ultimas are literally the 2nd most powerful beings in the setting.

>am I on to something?
No, you're thinking too much.
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>>94256681
Speaking real good doesn't mind control better than mind control.
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>>94256549
What did Italics do to harm you?
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>>94256717
make really bad cyoas that stank up this place many times
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>>94256719
Holy based
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>>94256691
Says who really? It's two ++'s past the peak of human ability, and one + past 'this shit is obviously magic to anyone watching'. Even mechanically, social++++ costs 10 while enchantment sorcerer only costs 5.
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>>94256728
>non quantifiable
>actually point scaling
Ok, whatever you say. You can go speak real good while I make mind slaves and speak real good too because my Social is +++.
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>>94256633
This makes too much sense shut it down.
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>>94256633
You know too much anon... now you have to disappear.
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>>94256755
You are aware that 'speaking real good' means speaking incredibly supernaturally good here, right?
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>>94256829
Yes. And I'm saying that's not as good as the strongest mind control magic in the world + speaking real (less) good + pact bloodline progenitor.
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>>94256845
Why? Bearing in mind you still have Pact bloodline in this scenario.
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>>94256877
Ignore him, he just wants to justify his mind control fetish
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>>94256893
>>94256877
>>94256845
>>94256829
Jobbers...
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>>94256616
Cope and Seethe.
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>>94256877
Why is the strongest mind control magic in the world better than just speaking better by an unspecified amount? Let's just stop, this is going nowhere.
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>>94256896
I'm actually pretty sure I have the strongest build possible here.
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>>94256633
Forbidden lore delete your post before it's too late.
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>>94256633
Who is Father Entropy then? The Void?
>Only exists to eat souls and corrupt Gods into eldritch assholes
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>>94256933
The Void is clearly a Son that gorged on too many souls.
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>>94256933
He's not tentacle-y enough to be the Void. He's probably his own thing. If he is the Void, though, then he's definitely also Planeswalker Rising Death.
> Void: A plane that lacks any sort of intrinsic contents or features, making it inherently hostile to the dependance of all things on other features. Because it has nothing to it, it can only be described by the consequences of its interactions with other universes.
>> Blood Magic: The exploitation of the void, by drawing the world closer to it through sacrificial practice, is the core and heart of Blood magic. There are also multiple externalized instances of voids, called 'souls' in the system of Blood magic, that relate to their bearers as a traditional soul would. These inner voids are the most expensive sacrifices that a blood mage can make, and cause the Void to directly open into the world with devastating effects, possibly permanently if it is repeated. This permanent damage has been described in similar terms to how it works in Wanderer of Broken Worlds, as seen by the examples of Irkalla and other battlegrounds of the war between the Convention and Abysswalkers.
>> Planeswalker Rising: The Void is an element inside the Scholar's system of elements, which also anthropomorphized as 'death' in their system of thaumaturgical patrons.
>> Wanderer of Broken Worlds: The Void is the antagonist of this CYOA, a corrosive existential force that is warded from universes by their 'barriers', should it be lost or damaged, the world is then opened up to any kind of destructive phenomena, and also to entry from those who call themselves Travellers. The travellers (not to be confused with the protagonists of traveller's tale) are those who bear a 'traveller factor' in their souls that allows them to survive it, as a benefit of having souls that are contaminated by Void, which comes with other potentially beneficial abilities.
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>>94256933
He'd just be a Death Ultima with Inheritance.
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>>94257025
>Inheritance
Btw, doesn't this encroach waaay too much on unity's 3rd power?
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>>94254203
>Philosophy, making the player think about their role in the cyoa, the cyoa's world, and IRL
>There's some sort of mutual benefit and we can choose how much or how little we follow along with their orders. Ever play Obsidian's Tyranny? Kinda like that
>Powers should be balanced around cost
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>>94257065
Unity's third power gives you control over blood, bloodlines, heritage, and lets you empower them. Inheritance can only be used on your direct children but can empower them up to and beyond what Unity's power is capable of.
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>>94254773
i hate women, kill them both and create robot children
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>>94257126
>can empower them up to and beyond what Unity's power is capable of
No, they're the same in this regard. It's weird and inappropriate that just any ultima can do the exact same as (or better than) the ultimate ability of another, even if it's just a (major) part.
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>>94253770
>Will cream her panties just looking at Carl. They're going to be fucking like rabbits
Mutt's law never fails, amerimutt
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>>94255988
I like this.

Anon
Male
Ozark
Homesteader
Cooking
Medicine
Piloting
Self-Defense
Grav Handler
Hazard Armor
Mineral Gun
Promise Rings
Infirmary and Greenhouse systems
Cargo Craft
Support Truck
>BE AN ADULT MAN
lol nah, I go hit on their milf mothers.
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>>94255988
Soooooo how am I supposed to play this? Am I building a character for a DnD style adventure where I roleplay or self-insert myself into someone else as if I took over an existing character? It's different from other cyoas I've played where you're specifically the person being affected, this reads more like a videogame where you're sort of playing someone else's story. If that's the case I think I'd just rather play a videogame like idk.
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>>94257628
italics cyoas are always poorly designed like that
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>>94257651
I'm just asking because maybe I'm missing something or there's and option or mechanic I'm out of the loop of because it's just strange to me.
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>>94257665
i assume you can do either idk
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>>94257628
>>94257651
>>94257665
>>94257730
Unironic Shitposting.
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>>94257814
God sent me to kill you
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>>94257819
I didnt do that wtf
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>>94258546
No, my sweet Demiurge...but I did.
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>>94258569
sylen-sama go back to slepp...
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>>94258569
>jobs to retarded edgelords
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>>94258639
Eh, so long as I can take out a few kings I don't mind too much
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>>94258569
Succubus, please have mercy
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>>94258660
Reminder that hell is empty because succubi caught HIV and spread it and everyone died again
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>>94258663
it's okay they'll come back again
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>>94258663
Everybody's got HIV bro
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>>94258663
Beings unable to control their libidos deserve that quick and humiliating death.
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>>94256169
Literally what is the point of being a body snatcher?
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>>94258663
wait, you guys dont have HIV?
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>>94258663
succubi cannot catch HIV you dummy, you great fool, even greater than the greatest fool, the demiurgus
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I have been contemplating Sonic. For those of you living under a rock (no offense) Sonic is a blue hedgehog, and he's crazy fast Think of the fastest thing you can imagine. Sonic is faster than that. A Son can never catch up.
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>>94258952
Depends on the version of sonic. Sonic can go from supersonic to light speed to greater than light speed to infinite speed. The most common being supersonic. With how Sons scale, they can get any speed of sonic excep his infinite versions, and those are from comics nobody saw
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>>94258952
sorry im not into fucking things with fur
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>>94257065
Speaking of unity, does unity's second power interact with the archon title power? Does the archon power work as normal and weaken the nullification, or does it also get nullified? Do they both work at full power?
>>94257163
Inheritance says cosmic entities and lesser gods, ichor says demigods and lesser gods.
>>94257126
This, plus it also grants healing abilities. Unity having its toes stepped on slightly doesn't seem odd at all, considering that it's supposed to be strongly connected to the others.
However, that doesn't change the fact that the misc powers are really weirdly balanced. Divine senses and cosmic presence are important enough that a part of them could probably be given by default. Meanwhile, the other 3(excluding inheritance, it seems fine, if a bit better than it should be by comparison) aren't that useful, which would be fine if they didn't cost exactly as much as the far more useful title powers. If they allowed spending of leftover points by being 1 or 2 points each, they would almost certainly not be ignored.
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Alta... my beloved
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>>94258952
Not fast enough to catch up with Flesh Dancer!
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Does anyone have that hero cyoa where you pick a heroic archtype like "Samurai", "Caveman", "Gunslinger", "Superhero", "Detective", etc?
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>>94258993
Infinite speed. That's fast.
There's something more to Sonic. He is conceptually speed. He might be metaphysical or very metaphysical. I'm thinking Father-level.
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>>94259028
Your one allotted post for the day has been reached, back to the mines, slave.
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>>94259022
Sangra is better
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Just now moments ago, I fucked up making cup noodles. I didn't think that was even possible. How am I supposed to ever make a CYOA worth reading? From now on I will leave authoring to smarter, more capable anons. As you work on your WIP, know that you are probably doing something far beyond my comprehension. It's normal to you, but it's rocket science to me and my smooth and fun-sized brain. Were I to see you at work, I'd be amazed at all you are accomplishing that I cannot. Godspeed.
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>>94259129
Everyone said my cyoa sucked.
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>>94259129
>posted more than one CYOA here
>anons laughed at me
>posted my CYOA on reddit
>thousands of updoots and builds shared, users constantly dm'ing me for more and questions
hah, i doubt anyone around here has anything positive to say about me
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>>94259133
aro...
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>>94259154
Its called the hugbox for a reason.
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>>94259154
>thousands of updoots
Thousands means >=2000. Let us be generous and accept anything that rounds up to 2000, so >=1500.

So I looked it up. There are 10 CYOAs on /r/makeyourchoice/ and 101 CYOAs on /r/nsfwcyoa with >=1500 upvotes, for a total of 111. Which one is yours?
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>>94259182
lmao, they are all 1 pager pick pickers type of cyoas
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>>94259053
Stop glazing the Flash victim
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>>94259047
No one remembers what cyoa that was, please post it if you find out
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>>94259182
I may have unintentionally misspoken. Thousands of updoots across more than one CYOA. My highest is like 800 updoots. It also doesn't matter. What I really like about reddit is that people actually post their builds. Thats the main selling point.
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>>94259222
>My highest is like 800 updoots
Hi aro

>What I really like about reddit is that people actually post their builds.
I agree, mind you. If I ever made an effortful cyoa, I'd post it on reddit too, to get the most builds.
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>>94259265
What makes you think I was talking about sfw cyoa? HAH!
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>>94259222
But you don't even read builds and being liked by redditors is insulting since all it means is your cyoa follows their specific moral guidelines and is safe horny+lgbtqbbq friendly.
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>>94259182
All others are pill pickers and such, as expected. It's surprising they liked City Witch that much though.

>>94259222
>people actually post their builds
I guess it depends on the cyoa, I got twice as many builds here than in reddit
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>>94259222
>that people actually post their builds
No they don't.
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>>94259308
It is 100% based on the cyoa. Both Magi case and entropist got barely anything there and a bunch of builds here. To say reddit is better for builds is just outing yourself as a redditcoded author.
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>>94259410
This is true. If your cyoa has more reddit builds its a sign of low quality. Not all cyoas popular on reddit are bad but all popular reddit cyoas that were not as popular on 4chan are.
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>anons actually feeling attacked at the notion that for CYOA, reddit is actually superior

lmao

lol

cope harder
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>>94259128
Both of them are equal in my heart and on my bed... my beloveds...
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>>94259129
cup noodles are not cyoas
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>anon actually feeling attacked at the notion of other anons having a preference

lmao

lol

cope harder
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>>94256965
John entropy?
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>>94259265
good Morning, why would i care enough about anons laughing at me to vague post about it in thread? I would just go to Discord and throw tomatoes at sand or something.
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>>94259470
Sangra > Alta in bed. Sangra has blood manipulation and regeneration. She can pump up your dick, blood bend its blood and make it big enough to tear herself apart, but it doesnt matter because she quickly regenerates. Alta would scream as she does her ultimate backshots reciever technique and expect to get petted and praised after it.

Sangra > Alta
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>>94259495
good morning aro ily
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>>94259509
>He wouldn't pat and praise alta
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Words cannot put into proper description how much I adore Gil
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>>94259551
I can tell that your favorite fantasy races are always goblins.
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>>94259509
>Alta would scream as she does her ultimate backshots reciever technique and expect to get petted and praised after it.
Damn alta really is better.
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I’m the cyoag sheriff
You are all under my watch
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>>94259545
>>94259558
We need the Gift sex rank no sex magic allowed
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>>94259571
Stupid gat, git!
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>>94259410
Most cyoas definitely get more builds on reddit than 4chan, at least at release time (on 4chan cyoas get new builds on a slow drip as they are reposted every now and then, while on reddit cyoas are reposted uncommonly, so the total number of builds a cyoa gets on reddit is more front-loaded). There's exceptions (especially mcyoag favorites like My Hero Academy and Kill The Heaven, and cyoas where the author engages with anons like Houses of Ruin and Entropist), but that's the rule.
Also worth noting: when we speak of reddit, we usually mean /r/makeyourchoice, but on reddit the nsfw board is much more active than the sfw board, the opposite of 4chan. Because of this, almost all nsfw cyoas should get more builds on reddit than on 4chan (I assume. I don't actually follow nsfw cyoas much).
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>>94259461
This. It reveals that anons KNOW they've created an environment designed to make authors quit and decrease the production of OC, but they refuse to change. The fact that they are so sensitive to being called out for it is enough evidence that it rings true. Not that they'll change their behavior. That would require them to stop making excuses and make a concerted effort to improve their attitude for the sake of this general and its future. I pity authors that are trying to break in during this age of darkness. It was a lot easier five years ago.

I don't like reddit either, and I don't think it has enough pressure to form diamonds, but if authors are quitting or won't make new content here, then any argument that this general 'forces the best out of authors' or 'holds them to a higher standard' is factually wrong. You have no authors because you killed them with your own two hands.
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>>94259616
We have plenty of authors and all good OC comes from here, go back.
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>>94259625
how many threads do we need to go back before we find serious OC that was not a joke, prank or something in between
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>>94259625
You have old blood that thins by the day.

>stop making excuses and make a concerted effort to improve [your] attitude for the sake of this general and its future.
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>>94259635
Whenever the last aro cyoa dropped. Haven't cared about anything since.
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>>94259585
Ester>Kirilia>Ebon>Astra>the rest
Bloom doesbt count as she is sex magic given a form
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>>94259616
No one kills anything, retard. The slop machine that produces 10 pill pickers every week is no quality. We don't need them here.
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>>94259635
2 years at least
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>>94259551
If you truly loved him you would post his cyoa kino but you never do
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>>94259642
>stop making excuses
Yes you should. But rather than improving your attitude you should just leave.
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>>94259635
2 threads ago, >>94233015 had 3 OCs.

One that falls under "a joke, prank or something in between": >>94237353
One serious onepager: >>94235212
One small update to a serious cyoa: >>94235332
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>>94259649
They have cyoas and talk about them, as low quality as they are. You have arguments that extend for ten threads over nothing. Stop making excuses and make a concerted effort to improve your attitude for the sake of this general and its future. Its as simple as that.
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>>94259674
>Stop making excuses
I just told you to to stop doing that and leave back to r*ddit since you clearly love it so much.
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>>94259674
Excuses for what? you are the one making excuses for reddit, idiot.
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>>94259674
People really get mad when you tell them they are not being profesional reviewers but assholes. Its like their parents didnt show them how social interactions works or just vent online their frustrations
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>>94259695
>t. failed author
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>>94259674
Its just plain depressing that this general suffers from so many negative nancies. Really wish we could do transfer to some other hell hole and get some positive energy in here.

>>94259690
Just leave you absolute cringelord. You are the problem.
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>>94259695
Point one post where someone claims to be a professional reviewer.
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Being unnecessarily negative and a shit-flinging /b/-tard doesn't make you "one of us", but for some reason anons think so.
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>>94259702
never posted a single cyoa, im a leech. But i am not an asshole leech.
In fact, i tend to see failed authors or jealous ones being assholes to authors that got more than them
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>>94259703
>Just leave you absolute cringelord. You are the problem.
I've literally been telling (You) to do this, stop copying me.
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>>94259708
All catposters and frogposters claim to be professional reviewers just to shit on cyoas.
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>>94259509
This is wrong because Drace no diffs them thanks to the secret carry into full nelson technique. This is why shortstacks are the strongest sorry Altacuccks and Sangrabetas.
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>>94259703
Stop projecting, retard
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>>94259721
As the original frogposter I can confidently say this is incorrect.
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>>94259721
>Is unable to provide a single post
As expected. You have nothing but your strawman
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>>94259722
pfff. Drace folds. Her whole thing is being a tsundere that easily folds. In bed she would be a kitten smitten with you with a few words.

Ebon would try to dominate you unlike her
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>>94259703
>I am le better!! you are negative!
lmao
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>>94259747
Drace 1 Ebon 0 so far.
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>>94259721
Gatto derangement syndrome...
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>>94259646
Elaine is literal death by snu snu she has to be number 2 after Bloom but desu Bloom is cheating since she's a super succubus and trap option meant to misguide your sigma grind nature with sex.
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>>94259713
This is thread culture
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>>94259703
dw. I understand you and think the same. I just tend to ignore them when they start to get mad throwing insults instead of normal talking. They kind of use this place to release some stress so i kind of get it but it doesnt stop it from being overly toxic for no reason at all.
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>>94259758
>a super succubus and trap option meant to misguide your sigma grind nature with sex
Luckily nobody was dumb enough to fall for that, right? Right?
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>>94259713
if enough anons think so, then it is so
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>>94259772
I didn't at least. The closest I've got is tok locked in my mines, but I don't fuck him.
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>>94259747
True Sons dominate their gifts which is why Ebon is a shit option and Drace is the canon choice for entropist.
>but muh EA picked Ebon over Drace
He's a dragonfucker with a tall woman fetish who doesn't have the balls to be a chad shortstack dominator. This is why Koryu and Nida were shit in comparison to super kino waifus like Drace who only barely loses to the Ester+Kirilia evil cartoon boss with henchman combo.
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>>94259754
Ebon > Drace
Ebon has a character arc depending on your choices. If you choose to be submissive she stays dominant but if you put her on a leash she becomes submissive. Drace doesnt change and is submissive fron the start.
>>94259758
I can understand Elaine being in the top half for some people but not number 2, Ester's multiple bodies and Kirilia's shapeshifting are without rival except themselves.
Also, Bloom doesnt count because she is sex magic itself in bed, she is perfect down to the core. Not because she is a trap option because she is not. The only way she is a trap option is if your mind wants a trap option (tok)
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Does anyone have that cyoa where you show up in some random eldritch shop and the clerk lets you take a few rune thingies? It's one page, mostly purplish in color, and you pick one symbol per row out of four rows. I think each row also had four options, but I might be misremembering there.
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>>94259772
>>94259781
Bloom is a girl. Its confirmed, the trap option was a discussion for like 2-3 threads before it got resolved.

>>94259798
What is better:
A. Dominate something already dominated and easy
B. Dominate something not dominated

With that logic, Ebon is superior as she becomes submissive if you prove yourself as the dominant partner
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>>94259801
Bloom is an obvious trap option to anyone with a braincell. It's clear the sex powers are meant to corrupt you.
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>>94259820
>confirmed
I too love making shit up. Bloom is an obvious trap. You literally can't even come up with a single reason as to why she's not a trap option that will fuck you over in the long term.
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>>94259823
1. Trap option can mean two thing. The meme of trannies or literally a trap.
2. The meme is a no as she is confirmed a female. That plus EA hating trannies.
3. A trap. If it was a trap EA wouldnt choose it. Also, how sex powers can corrupt you? it only corrups people like Tok, whose whole life is that. Ester is more about corruption because she is possesive, Bloom is whatever you wants
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>>94259781
You haven't fucked him YET.
Nobody can resist that, uh, attractive body and incroyable personality.
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>>94259820
>>94259832
different kinds of trap or anon's retarded, call it
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>>94259721
As the original frogposter I can confidently say this is totally correct.
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>>94259721
As the unoriginal frogposter I can confidently say this is totally correct.
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>>94259832
? Again, Bloom is confirmed as:
1. Something the Father knows all about. As he wouldnt send something potentially dangerous to his Sons
2. Not a tranny. As all gifts are confirmed girls but also meta knowldege EA hates trannies.
3. Beneficial. She is not only arguably the strongest gift but also the only one with type advantage against True AIs.
4. Also meta knowledge, chosen by the Author himself. And he didnt do an All Gifts run or anything, he had relatively low amount of gifts for one of us and still chose her
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>>94259842
Not tranny I meant an option that is going to be a net negative. Bloom is clearly some succubus or agent trying to fuck you over and corrupt you or seduce you to take you to not Slaanesh which is why you have to take the sex target drawback to even get her in the first place. EA is a retard and took her so if anything that further proves my point.
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>>94259864
>Not a tranny. As all gifts are confirmed girls but also meta knowldege EA hates trannies.
I'm still not sure why you're so set on this one. It's clear what kind of trap he meant.
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>>94259870
Thats also false. Again. I am not in the pc right now but i am sure either in the archives or in that compilation of Q&A there is some information about her. It was basically at the start of entropist discussion.

Entropistanon confirmed the Father fully knows what Bloom is and also confirmed the Father wouldnt send something that is a net negative to one of his Sons. She is a not a Prince spy, shee is not a succubus trying to corrupt you or anything. Heck, the text of the cyoa itself says she impossibly loves you.
The Pmeasure Target drawback is a sign she is related somehow to the Prince, but it can be a lot of relations, and as she is confirmed as not a guy, a virgin, and not an enemy she cant be the Prince or one of his pawns. Probably related to him in a familiar way and the soul tampering that affected the Prince also affected her


If its confirmed by the author
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>>94259881
It is not. Back in the day both kind of traps were being discussed. Thats why i wanted clarification
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>>94259848
>>94259851
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>>94259870
>>94259905
I got it
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/90742251/#q90752921
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>>94259864
bloom has advantage against AI?
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Everyone with pleasure target is just a sex slave in the making. Even with bloom, they can just seal somewhere while she is in her in her weak form and then take you.
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>>94260000
Just don't be a jobber?
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>>94260022
That is impossible for you though
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>>94260029
Nah I'd win
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>>94259986
all pleasure beings have it. EA said some beings that were good against True AI, hounds beings are like neutral type against anyo e, demiurgues are strong against them and omeasure beings destroy them
>>94260000
She doesnt have a weak form. She has normal gift, inmortal beast and nuke.

Also, taking Pleasure Target and Bloom is a net positive. Because Prince beings were already your enemies. They were already trying to kill you. They just now dont have intention to kill you (makes fights easier as they cant go all out) but now you have a truly inmortal being that is a rechargable nule on your side + the abilities your Bloom gains with her perfect form, that deoending on your vision of her can be pretty stacked.

Basically you barely add any danger, make them hold back to trap you instead of killing you (easier fights) and add the best ally. The only thing that would change is permanent death = slavery, but you can probably skip that with Instant death anywhere button you have by virtue of being a Son
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>>94260043
This one is cool, I'm going to try to make a build for it.
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What cyoa author do you think of first when you see/hear the word ‘jobber’?
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>>94260201
Tok.
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>>94260201
Gil.
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>>94260201
Dragonfall/mtg desu>>94260201
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>>94260201
Tok, he keep releasing flops and cry-spam afterwards.
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>>94260201
If Tok were to claim to be the second biggest jobber in cyoag, no one would dare claim to be the first.
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>>94260201
gil is literally named after the golden jobber
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>>94260078
>all pleasure beings have it
yes but why
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What cyoa author do you think of first when you see/hear the word ‘Defender’?
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>>94260303
Italics
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>>94260303
Sadly, italics.
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>>94260303
Italics, but it proves nothing
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>>94254207
Scientist, Restaurant and Cute.
Scientist is not very useful at first since you don't gain the diplommas and people won't hire, random selftaught guy, but you can do online courses to get your degrees.
The restaurants are more for the food than the money and I don't worry about growing the franchise, also, if I can pick, they're not a franchise, but five restaurants of different types, all in the same city.
And cute, because becoming good looking would be really nice.
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>>94260271
Lore reasons he didnt give. If i had to guess, True AIs are souls created by inmense pain and suffering over who knows how many decades or centuries. So, their minds are warped and they are mentally ill only experiencing pain and wanting to spread it by torturing. I can imagine an emotion like pleasure is not only a first time for their mind so it pretty much shocks them but also acts as a way to counter the very essense of their existence that is experiecing pain. Pleasure beings not only can make them experience pleasure but also amounts of pleasure that even minds like humans cant really resist (empowered sex magic of matrons as an example) so to True Ais that are prepared badly against it is destructive. Also, as its a mental attack it bypasses the advantage AIs have against Sons, AIs use their soul separated in a lot of bodies to make attacks to the soul useless and bodies replacable, but mental attacks are still effective as they have 1complete mind.
I imagine also it doesnt have to be only sex magic attacks but as the beings of pleasure are made of pleasure itself it still counters machines. Just like Entropy beings (Sons) > Beings made of souls (Demiurgues, demons)
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>>94260303
The author of the My Computer WIP, one of the all time greatest WIPs. AFAIK he had no author name, nor did he author anything else.
Because Defender makes me think of Microsoft Defender (the default antivirus in newer windowses), and My Computer was styled after windows 98 UI (although Microsoft Defender didn't actually exist then yet).
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>>94260303
Gil thinks he’s Shirou, even though he’s more like his namesake. :^)
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>>94260464
he was that one overly imaginative kid who played with a plastic sword in the schoolyard with the other anime addled, unsupervised autists
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>>94260496
So like all children at that age? Faggot.
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>>94260201
Tok.
He should of done way better with the Magic the Awakening, but he shot himself in the foot.
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>>94260496
t. Never had fun as a child

SAD
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You all need a timeout
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>>94260716
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>>94260738
Get in the corner
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>>94260750
Get in the box
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>>94260784
get in the bag
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Get in my butt
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>>94260822
Sorry Tok, but my heart belongs to Italics.
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>>94260201
tok, aro, and italics

i see that a lot of people are saying gil, but i'll be honest with you, despite being here consistently for more than a decade i still couldn't point out a single thing gil made
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>>94260856
You are a man of awful, shit taste. I do not pity you.
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>>94260923
since you're clearly defensive about at least one of those, this says more about your taste than mine
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>>94260856
>I dont like Current Things
How brave, how bold.
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>>94260956
i disagree, those things aren't current, but i like that you call them things so we can agree on that
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>>94260856
>>94260939
>>94260974
You speak sacrilege. This will only get you a free spot on the sacrificial pyre.
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>>94260856
>despite being here consistently for more than a decade i still couldn't point out a single thing gil made
Liar. Gil immortalized himself in cyoag's consciousness with the cuck hero cyoa. If you've been here consistently for a decade, there's no way you don't know at least that one.
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>>94260984
you have shit taste to the point you've turned it into a quasi-religion, think about that

>>94261012
no i'm actually serious, i cannot associate the name gil with an actual cyoa, and "cuck hero" doesn't help me do so either
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>>94261012
>cyoag's consciousness
Most people that now lurk here only know that name because of shitposts.
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gilworm burrowing around rent free in anons brains like some sort of cult
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>>94260439
Are there more pages?
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>>94261033
CUTE
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>>94261080
Buckets of them. Many are nsfw.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RCtSeLYTTJ-2lxbPpotZMYq8MBLtuXQT
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Why do you hate [Insert Author]? What did they do to you?
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>>94261235
Tankista, producing shitty slop is one thing, but the two autists that bicker about his slop and will spam a thread with several dozen max length posts of dogshit build nobody cares about makes me want to vomit. At least his cyoas die out quick.
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>>94261235
Gil disagreed with me over balance like seven years ago and I haven’t forgotten or forgiven him. His particular brand of autism really infuriates.
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>>94261235
>Tok
He lowers the quality of the thread by existing.
>Italics
He's keeping PSY from me.
>Aromage
Keep spamming WIPs about recycled garbage.
>Cyrus
Never finished Vittorian Dream, preventing me from enjoying a completed setting.
>Savestate
Expect me to play with an excel sheet in my downtime.
>BTG
I'm indifferent to sex change, but his tendency to hide points behind ego death options are grating.
>OutrageousBears
Currently more focused on being impregnated than making CYOAs for me.
>DollAnon
Left without answering my questions about Primula/Cynosure nor finishing CEO's Son.
>Everyone Else
Stopped producing things for me.
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>>94261330
>OutrageousBears
Witch awakening is still their only decent project but it suffers from reddit syndrome and they gatekeep higher power from you. So until they do something actually good with witch awakening I am left wondering what you could possibly be waiting for.

The trannyauthors and dollanon are better off gone anyways.
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>>94261330
>>OutrageousBears
>Currently more focused on being impregnated than making CYOAs for me.
low t cuck
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>>94261235
I wouldn't say I hate him, but Dragonfall could've been great if not for Tok
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>>94261391
>and they gatekeep higher power from you
I never read it 100% but iirc nu-Witch had the opposite problem, you had overwhelming power and overly comfortable setting, so nothing much depends on your specific powers, they're high enough to solve everything you run across anyway, there's no stakes.
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>>94259222
>My highest is like 800 updoots
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>>94261504
>but iirc nu-Witch had the opposite problem
You are capped at tier 5 with no way in the cyoa to go beyond this bar a temporary kaioken to tier 6 for one power. This shit is whack.
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PCA could neck snap anyone here, with his thighs, I bet.
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>>94261235
i hate tok because he's a clown who deliberately wants to be hated and i don't have a problem obliging since he's also genuinely retarded so often that it's fun

i hate aro because she's as dumb as a wall and i can't stand seeing the results of that in cyoa mechanics, lore, etc., it kind of reminds me of the author who made the mythic lands and mushoku tensei cyoas, except at least he has clever mechanical systems and balancing decisions that make buildmaking fun going for him, while the only thing aro has going for her is the effort she puts into photoshopping pretty visuals into her work, but unfortunately that doesn't make a cyoa that's fun or useful in any way on its own

i hate italics because he doesn't understand what cyoas even are in the first place and really wish he would just go write stories already instead, and furthermore people constantly shitpost about him which keeps what would otherwise only be a few embers of annoyance that i could ignore burning bright and hot instead

as i said i don't even know what gil has ever made but he sure gets shitposted a lot
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>>94261632
anger and dislike aren't the same things, and you can't really hold onto dislike, it just flares up when you're presented with the thing you dislike once again
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>>94261330
you don't know what spamming means.
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>>94261598
you're gil i bet
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>>94261721
what did you bet? because you owe it to me now, so pony up
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>>94261286
Alright, what makes it so shitty? Surely you can't mean just the meta stuff in a couple of CYOAs.
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>>94261650
>"anger and dislike aren't the same things"
>"i hate tok"
>"i hate aro"
>"i hate italics"
>"i hate Ilyn Payne"
>"i hate The Tickler"
>"i hate The Mountain"
Whatever you say wolf girl
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>>94261745
t-this artstyle...
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>>94261745
he asked what i hate, the illusion of anger is there in response to that

like if you put a food i hate on the table where i'm eating i'm not going to get angry because i'm not retarded, i just won't eat it because i hate it, get it? you're probably too dumb to get it
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>>94261761
If you dislike something you say you dislike it, and if you are using the word hate it implies much more than a simple dislike of something
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>>94261864
>he asked what i hate, the illusion of anger is there in response to that
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Hey guys how does this arrangement look for the Families.
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I'm starting to think I won't finish my OC in time for Halloween even though it's about horror movies...
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>>94262090
What are court points for?
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>>94262090
The difference from one to two is huge.
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>>94262090
You fucked up the image quality somehow.
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>>94262090
Bad.
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>>94262090
Why do you lose points for having a family It was't like that in the original. Just have lower Court Points, I assume those are for companions.
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>>94262090
You are doubling in number from Lonesome Road to Twins. Like from Twins to Council. Literally the difference between jumping someone and getting jumped, lmao. It should be worth more.
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>>94262090
Instead of having more CP, how about we get secondary aspects for each missing member? So if you're alone, you get 5 secondary aspects for 6 total.
>the cannibalism symbolism gets more obvious too
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>>94262178
I agree, would give lonesome peeps that sweet edge needed
not to die.
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>>94262106
Companions.
>>94262113
It's just a screenshot.
>>94262143
A couple people in thread complained about it just being a difficulty slider.
>>94262178
...Not a terrible idea, i'll play around with that. Thanks.
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>>94262090
>12 family members = -10 points
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>>94262143
Why should having more gods on your same level of power cost nothing?
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>>94262228
It depends on what the CYOA is trying to achieve. Why is the price changing? What is that change trying to accomplish?
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>>94261391
>Witch Awakening is decent

To start with an objective problem, the CYOA is designed to maximize decision fatigue by tying hundreds of options to one currency on a permanent map of what you can achieve.
Adding to what >>94261504 says, a lot of the false comfiness comes from keeping the irrevocable ideological differences between factions out of focus, most hostile characters are either Outsiders or murderhobos. Instead of a fight between good and evil, it's both of them versus feral.
It can't be comfy because it's completely a CYOA about fighting other people, ignoring the original focus on utility magic, and there is an emphasis that anyone can be tentacle raped by Outsiders at any time and other poorly handled grimdark elements.
Speaking of that, the good sides have no moral expectations except for upholding the masquerade, and this is probably why the Outsiders are the only enemy faction out of all the evil ones. But this is all inherently predatory, you can rape, petrify, soul trap, and vore as many people as you want, as long as you keep it secretive. Every faction is objectively batshit fucking evil and they should be mass murdered in the name of the Human race and all others.
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>>94262241
Balance between someone that starts with less as opposed to someone that starts with more?
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>>94262244
People have observed that reddit's very structure is hostile to holding real beliefs. It has yes, a set of opinions that are most commonly rewarded, that is even variable between subs, which is all a trick. The system is designed to tie your self image to the point value, then to delete values that go against the flow. It reverses your development of Kohlberg's stages, and when the victim of this process is the ultimate authority on morality, they no longer know how to maintain moral superiority past an aesthetic level because they don't know how it works beyond marketing.
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>>94262250
What I was trying to get you to consider was why the previous version didn't have the sort of balance you're mentioning now. What did it gain from that?
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If I were to make a Witch Awakening build, I would unleash outsider gods and tear its shitty reality asunder.
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>>94262270
For the same reason it had Mavis from hotel Transylvania . It was an old inferior design.
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>>94262287
No, I think there's more to it. You zeroed in on one dimension but didn't consider all the other potential ones. Are the families always unquivocally good for you? Do they never distract your focus? Do they never ruin your personal journey? Are they never your rivals or possibly even enemies, whether immediately or after enough events have passed to estrange you? And so on.
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>>94262270
>>94262213
>difficulty slider.
As long as Companions are roughly on par with your family I don't see an issue. This just feels arbitrary and kind of goes against the power fantasy aspect. I don't see what this serves beyond being an annoyance.
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>>94262308
They aren't, most of the Companions are not Ultima.
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>>94262228
That you are on the same family doesn't mean you two will get along. And if they disagree they are one of the little things that are a challenge against you.
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>>94262308
>As long as Companions are roughly on par with your family
nta, but they are either ultima or ultimately fodder.
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>>94262317
and other than the title does that matter? this is a setting that equates abilities on the level of spider man to abilities on the level of multiverses
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>>94262307
Aro did not consider any of these things, that is the point. Just like how she did not realized making a character that is just an actual existing character form a franchise is a bad idea. It was never a well thought up design.
>>94262308
But they are not. You can read them yourself.
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>>94262244
there is no good and evil in tankista works yet you don't bitch
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why is it that every time aro shit is discussed some retard starts seething about tankista
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>>94262324
Unlike random ultima that are less close to you than your family members who you can literally design to have whatever goals and personality you want? You mean those?
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>>94262307
>>94262324
By default the Families act kind of like normal human families, and can love or hate each other depending on the people. There is a drawback that turns it more into an Olympian-style soap opera with constant backstabbing and drama
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>>94262308
>what this serves
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>>94262342
Not to mention there is an option to make your own
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>>94262143
The number of points being dependent on family size is absolutely a good change, but only losing them is sad.
>>94262178
How would that effect the other family members? Like with tribunal be considered the default option then, because you'd each get one secondary aspect? Or would you specifically get all three? Then what if it's not perfectly divisible, like with 4 members?
>>94262317
Among the companions are an ancient one, defined as being equal to the strongest of ultima, an old god that is stated to be almost guaranteed to become an ancient one, and several beings that are almost but not quite as powerful as an ultima. Are they all exactly equal? No. Are some of them roughly equal? Yes.
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>>94262382
>How would that effect the other family members?
They get as many secondary aspects as you.

>tribunal be considered the default option then, because you'd each get one secondary aspect? Or would you specifically get all three?
There is no default option and members in a tribunal get 3 secondary aspects.

>what if it's not perfectly divisible
Doesn't matter, only the primary aspect has to be unique in a family.
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>>94262382
The big point here is balancing the meme of making your own family of min-maxed ultimas for free. I agree with you that nerfing them is bad. Specially because she went at it in the laziest way possible by just giving -10 for every step.
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>>94262416
What would other ways of balancing it be? Adding a RYOA part for if you don't want the premade companions and having a cost to custom design them instead of the points cost for family size?
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>>94254152
anyone think the strength and weakness for Redguards is a bit too wanky of them?

Like their weakness feels like those BS interview responses to "what is your greatest weakness" where someone goes "i'm too much of a perfectionist" or something
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Can someone repost the gfd Gentle New World CYOA? I'm not sure where it's placed in the allsync.
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>>94262533
The weakness is literally a curse of stupidity. Redguard can't be picked.
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>>94262260
I put it to you, almost nobody on 4chan holds real beliefs either.
4chan is chock full of anons who won't shut up about how radical they are, something something anti-establishment anti-normie anti-corporate anti-media anti-woke anti-jew anti-natalism anti-glowie et cetera, in all kinds of varieties, and in 99% of the cases it's all talk, it is compartmentalized, it is their means of relating to online communities and nothing else. A person who genuinely holds such beliefs would live his life like Ted Kaczynski. Almost no anons do. That's too real, the "beliefs" you see here are the payment for a reply that will call them "based" as they desire the affection of the community. Posturing as a radical grants high status, genuinely holding radical beliefs can end you up in prison, but the latter is irrelevant to gaining the affection of the community anyway so it can be omitted. Convenient enough.
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>>94262533
The strength seems too wanky, the weakness is fine if you consider that it probably directly causes most of them to die pointlessly.
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>>94262571
>>94262606
>weakness: main character syndrome (not actually the main character 99% of the time)
frankly it's too common nowadays
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>>94262335
3_tankista moral relativism is "The world is headed for destruction, and yet we are still fighting. What is the goal that excuses everything you're about to do? Do you think that you can afford to draw a line?"
OutrageousBears moral relativism is "Welcome to the gravy train! Do you want to trap people inside statues, own sex slaves, power spells with human sacrifice? Who do you want to join? The conspiracy that controls all Abrahamic religions? Excellent taste, do you also want to use Ministration 5 to eat souls? Some of them will even let you kill them and screw the corpse in a satanic ritual if you want double the soul eating fun!" The last part is not an oversight, it is explicitly within the description of Occult 5. "Just don't let the muggles know about it!"
(Yeah between Aro's and Bears I don't know what it is with redditors accidentally making the church/god evil anyway.)

The omnicidal path in Blood Mage ends with killing the universe to become the literal demiurge and ready to inflict your havoc on other worlds.
The omnicidal path in Witch Awakening ends with saying an apology for your tentacle rapes and soul vores to the founder of the Watchers so that he can initiate you into super special double Watchers that even have real moral restrictions, like not murdering or raping any more!
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>>94262533
Do ayleids have natural flight?
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Arocutie, your response?
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>>94262714
I am shit at balancing.
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Would you agree that almost every cyoa ever overprices powers that increase upper body strength ("lift 1 ton" kinds of powers) relative to other powers?
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>>94262764
Yes. Authors are stupid
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>>94262764
I think that they should be focusing on making impossible feats of "super strength" possible, instead of reducing it to pure numbers. Like in Worm (and then everyone picks rocky anyway).
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>>94262090
Will manu and heka be available somehow as mentors? They are sort of your parents after all.
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>>94262708
The Witches are more sociopathic than the Mages, but I think part of that can be attributed to the environnement.
The Witches have less moral qualms because there is no end of the omniverse in sight, so they got comfortable. Outsiders and murderhobos are't chased because they're evil, but because they disrupt the cycle.
I'm sure you would become like them with time.
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>>94262708
I mean I see nothing morally wrong with sacrificing people who are willing, especially since you can resurrect them if you have the ability.
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>>94262903
Nyo~
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>>94254203
>Extensive first person dialogue from waifus. I cannot stress enough how this makes or breaks a CYOA's immersion for me. For the past couple of years I've always gone straight to the companions section, and if there aren't at least 3 lines of dialogue from each companions' PoV, and all of the companions are unattractive imo, I immediately drop the CYOA. The only exceptions are CYOAs I played and saved before I became this picky over time
>Femdom, preferably in a loving context, especially if the character/being is distinctly cute. Generic, long-haired, resting bitch face or a completely neutral expression, Western art, 21-35 y/o, cookie cutter (in terms of their looks) companions are extraordinarily overrated imo and indisputably overused
>As long as you mean choosing from a list of drawbacks to access more powers, not specific drawback-power pairings that the player has no say in
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>witch
>wizard
>sorcerer
>magician
>magic-user
These all mean the same thing
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>>94254815
Based fox remover
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>>94262989
>The Witches have less moral qualms because there is no end of the omniverse in sight, so they got comfortable.
I really have to disagree with you. There are obvious existential threats to the Awakening world, they just don't do anything proactive about them. In fact it was foreseeing an existential threat that caused the Convention to famously backslide, and only into militarism and environmental destruction. Darius didn't even do anything evil, he was just a victim of his own success. The Purists are into creating a society that is fair between mages and non-mages, literally the opposite of my complaints. And they were winning on the battlefield of Conventional politics over the millennia.
Witch Awakening is probably the future that Dido wants.

>>94263166
>I mean I see nothing morally wrong with-
The faction centered on Abrahamism should.

>>94263403
>witch
Supernatural terrorist.
>wizard
Literally, a wise person, respected figure in numerous societies. Just as knowledgeable in the material, natural, and personal fields as the supernatural ones. Basically an advisor or seer.
>sorcerer
Person that commands spirits, sometimes claiming the approval of God, sometimes not.
>magician
Person that makes a profession of the use of magic.
>magic-user
Can any person that has used a supernatural ability, even if they are not knowledgeable, skilled, or frequent with it.
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>>94263403
>witch
leans female
might ride broom
leans evil, satanic, anti-christian
leans uncivilized
transformation magic (to pigs, to frogs)
forms groups with other witches
either very pretty or very ugly, no inbetween

>wizard
always male
leans old
long beard
absentminded eccentric
leans civilized
silly hats
high tier ability

>sorcerer
term made popular by dnd, so reminds of dnd systems
leans male
more innate and less academic than wizard
leans more evil than wizard

>magician
fake magic
low tier ability

>magic-user
term invented (?) by dnd, so reminds of dnd systems
low tier ability
silly
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>>94261745
When Arya was cute.
It's a shame she grew up to be an ugly goblinoid

>>94263342
That's Luminary without the femdom.
But who knows Kleidi might be into i..
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>>94263454
>>94263488
All of those are magic-users. Same thing. Cope.
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>>94263488
>>wizard
>always male
not really
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>>94263488
not him but
>warlock
always male
spooky eldritch powers
very evil, demonic
leans both civilized and uncivilized
spooky curses and summoning of monstruosities
usually the leader or high ranking member of a dark cult
always ugly or deformed in some way
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>>94262533
I'm sorry you're seething at the superior race.
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>>94262533
Argonian, Dunmer and Redguard are obviously his favourite races.



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