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>Thread Question:
How many cyoas have you released? How many cyoas have you started but never finished?
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Power Word: Arobitch Shitalics
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>i hate italics because he doesn't understand what cyoas even are in the first place
What are CYOAs? What criteria must be met for a CYOA to be a CYOA?
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>>94263454
>Supernatural terrorist.
Correct. "A witch did it!" and all. A sorcerer is also this. "Foul sorcery!". Often heretical. Both true pejoratives.
>Literally, a wise person
The honorific to the pejorative! The realest sort of magic--all you need is sufficient knowledge (wisdom) of a thing. "Woah, are you a wizard?". Wizards like Gandalf or Odin are this. Inhuman sages. Sufficiently sagely humans like Archimedes or Leonardo da Vinci also suffice.
>Person that commands spirits
This applies to shamans, animists, mediums, necromancers, demonologists, and high ritual magicians petitioning gods and angels. Or DMT taking lunatics (Crowley, etc) attempting to contact aliens.
>Person that makes a profession of the use of magic.
This can just as easily refer to a mage or a magician. All three (mage, magician, magic-user) are so close they may as well mean or denote the same thing. The thaumaturge amounted to the same--a man of magic, a man of miracles, etc.
>any person that has used a supernatural ability
As above.
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>>94263488
>leans female
In pop culture/media, sure. In eastern Europe, a noticeable percentage of prosecuted witches were men. In Africa, male witch doctors are the ones who abuse the system of who's a bad witch or not.
>might ride broom
Cute, but also a must for purists. Conversely, witches would also ride flying pigs, or strip naked and fly around like that.
>evil, satanic, anti-christian
Magical terrorism, as another said.
>leans uncivilized
Unwashed women smell like bad onions, a favorite food of the witch.
>transformation magic
Defiance of mass, or wholesale conjuration, is also a sign of the wizard.
>forms groups with other witches
Which is strange when women can barely tolerate other women.
>either very pretty or very ugly, no inbetween
If they're pretty, it is but a wicked illusion....

>always male
>leans old
>long beard
Correct. The image of the old sagely bearded male was obsessively cultivated for thousands of years. It's why occultists pretended to be Solomon, Plato, Zoroaster, Hermes, etc.
>absentminded eccentric
The most brilliant minds of history, the certified "wizards", were indeed insane/eccentric.
>silly hats
Absolutely. This is mandatory. Pointy or bulbous. We still don't know what hat Leonard Euler wore. Was it a dishcloth? We just don't know!
>high tier ability
Magic does often relate to mastery. "He's a wizard at math!", etc. The Magus tarot card represents this. Magnum opus, etc.

>term made popular by dnd, so reminds of dnd systems
"Dee en Dee"
>more innate and less academic than wizard
DnD brainrot. Born and innate savants/wizards are a thing. The sorcerer in the Dee en Dee sense is just a magic jock.
>leans more evil than wizard
Charismatic chads are always evil.

>fake magic
All magic is "magic" at the end of the day.
>low tier ability
Magic is a game of punking. "That's not magic, THIS is Magic!", etc.

>term invented (?) by dnd
Nope. A user of magic is a user of magic.
>low tier ability
Gandalf is a magic-user.
>silly
Indeed.
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It's going down.
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>tfw you're waiting for Ultimate God updates for so long that you end up becoming a horrorterror.
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>>94263783
>term invented (?) by dnd
>Nope. A user of magic is a user of magic.

Oxford dictionary believes it was invented by dnd.
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/magic-user_n?tl=true
>The earliest known use of the noun magic-user is in the 1970s.
>OED's earliest evidence for magic-user is from 1979, in the writing of G. Gygax.
If you disagree, cite source.
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>>94263721
A story whose events vary depending on the influence of the player. Traditionally not computerized, although exceptions are increasingly common. Traditional CYOAs with sufficiently extensive narrative systems can be called "gamebooks". Hyena-Anon and Cyrus are both creators of gamebook styled CYOAs.
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>>94263821
I don't have to. You are literally just mashing two existing words together. Magic and User. What Dee en Dee did was coin it further, my making it a known type of phrase. It's like saying the Illusionist class "isn't a user of magic", because the Magic-User class already exists, which is just silly.

What is a magician, for that matter? What's in the name/word? MAGIC-ian. It's all the same thing. A magician is a magic-user and a magic-user is a magician.

This is why I hate Dee en Dee, by the way. They shove shit into little semantically redundant little boxes, that end up serving to just fucking frustrate the people at the table.
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Alright it's been like 6 months since last I was here, what's the new OC? Last thread didn't have shit.

What the fuck? Why the fuck is posting giving a email verification option, it's not April fools. This site gets worse and worse every year, I swear. The only reason I'm typing this much is due to the 800+ second timer and I'm going to use it to complain like the bitch I am. I see you're all still crying about italics, did he ever come out with those 5 OCs he was working on and the update to that magic city detective God shit? Did everyone lose their shit over the changes?

What about MT and Danmachi fighting, did you all get bored of that? Have any of your lives changed or improved since then? Did that spammer finally fuck off?

Holy fuck this timer is forever. Just updated the thread and I see magic autistic is still here. lmao. There must have not been much lasting OC if these type of arguments are still going. I'm gonna go piss.

Back from pissing. If there hasn't been any decent OC posted, someone post a kingdom builder or realm builder. The more pages the better but if it's a text wall it's shit. Speaking if text walls, remember that overlord crap? Oh thank God only 100 seconds left. I should post an image while I'm here.
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IT'S THE PHYSICS FAG. I RECOGNIZE HIS TYPING PATTERNS. HE HATES DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS. DO NOT ENGAGE.
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>>94263851
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>>94263828
Did you copy this from somewhere?
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>>94263857
If my presence causes you to type in all capitals like this, then I need you to kill yourself.
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>>94263864
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>>94263853
This is like reading a dropped audio log from a video game from 2010
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>>94263857
To be honest, it was obvious from the moment he said that all magic was "magic".
>>94263853
A few, but they weren't very impactful. Aromage did a few remakes. There are new Surinical OCs of course. You can find the rest by going to Reddit and filtering by month/year.
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already this thread is terrible
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>>94263881
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>>94263857
I knew it was him the moment he revealed his (based) misogyny
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>>94263884
>t. doesn't know what remakes are
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>>94263882
It's my stream of consciousness, take it or leave it.
>>94263884
Reddit? Do I have to? I still don't know how to use that site nor bother to try but names are enough for me to dig it up, thanks.
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>>94263892
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>>94263890
We can make it worst if we gather the rest of the shitposting crew. Tok, Italics, Aro, catposter, gilposter.
Then we'll have the perfect thread (with no cyoas posted, mind you).
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>>94263845
Dude. You claimed that it is wrong that the term "magic-user" was invented by dnd. This is a very specific claim, and "do words even mean anything" doesn't get you out of it.
You just now found out that the term "magic-user" was indeed invented by dnd.
In other words, you just realized you were wrong. You can admit it. It's fine. We're all friends here.
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>>94263907
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>>94263890
Quick, sacrifice a skeleton!
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>>94263910
I'm not a shitposter.
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>>94263918
I don't see a CYOA in your post so you're a shitposter by default.
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>>94263915
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>>94263918
It's not about being a shitposter, Italics, it's about bringing the IQ waterline down.
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>>94263926
I'M NOT AIEEEE
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>>94263910
Do they all assemble in a big robot, with each one making up a different bodypart?
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>>94263929
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DAILY REMINDER THAT I
Do not care for your manjaw manly 'waifus', aroSLUT
Do not care for your forced parenthood, entroPISSanon
Do not care for your lore, SHITalics
Do not care for your disgusting bimbos, tokmaBALLS
Do not care for your children, husPEDO
Do not care for your giantess fetish, beriSHITTER
Do not care for your AI, SLOPingical
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>>94263851
why are you posting this again?
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>>94263940
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>>94263942
Holy BASED!
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>>94263933
One page? Gross, but I'll take it.
>>94263946
Shut the fuck up it's currently the best thing in this thread.
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>>94263934
The real question is "What's the name of the robot?" and I don't have the answer.
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>>94263958
This thread really is doomed then.
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>>94263965
It was fucked the second I started posting.
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>>94263910
>Italics
>Shitposting
Will you fuck off already?
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>>94263910
>Aro
>Shitposting
Will you fuck off already?
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>>94263953
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>>94263721
Choose: To be given choices
Your: From the perspective of (you)
Own: Full freedom of the choices you make
Adventure: A journey of events
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>>94263991
You doesn't have to be real-life you and can be your Avatar like in You any other fictional media like in video games
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>>94263987

>>94263933
As a rule I'm only picking books that I've read.

4 Tesseract
3 There and Back Again.
1 Psychokinetic (why the hell is this attached to Charlie and The Chocolate Factory...)
4 Butler
7 "The End"
2 The Gift of Giving (desperately need this IRL because I'm human third language)
2 To See Brightly

Dump all remaining points into A Keen Mind
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>>94263991
If you are given choices by any authors you don't have freedom, btw. CYOAs by nature are anti-thesis to freedom and choice because you play by rules governing the media. If you ignore the rules, then there is no point and you aren't playing the media in the first place.
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>>94263991
>Adventure: A journey of events
Next to no-one does this, author or reader.
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>>94263998
Where the fuck do you think "own" is? Do whatever the hell you want, it's your adventure.
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>>94264021
>metafag corrupting the youth
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>>94264013
I saw "btw" in your post and didn't bother reading the rest. Good for you or sorry to hear that.
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>>94263910
You are 100% correct
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>>94264035
You are 100% incorrect
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>>94264035
>>94264038
Now kiss
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>>94263910
Based. Proven by the seething replies.
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>>94263910
>Doesn't mention Huspedo
mmmm...
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Looks like you guys don't have jack shit here so I'm going to fuck off to /trash/ for scraps. See you in 6 months losers.
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>>94264046
Stop seething so hard then and people won't make fun of you.
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>>94264058
Heh. He's going to miss Ultimate God (but again), the Luminaries, and Tok's next masterpiece.
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>>94264058
>Looks like you guys don't have jack shit here.
We got hype, aura, and delays.
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>>94263961
I got you senpai
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>>94264066
>further proves it by seething more
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>>94264083
Perfection.
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>>94264087
Projection.
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>>94264091
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>>94264104
>Does it again
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>>94264105
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put out cyoa where i can be mage
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>>94264118
Absolute Cinema
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>>94263454
>The faction centered on Abrahamism should.
Says who? It's not like having people die for the religion is unheard of.
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>>94264128
If you dont mind slop, then here you go: >>94263851
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>>94264130
>Projection
>Cinema
Movieanon...
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>>94264124
>>94264132
>Says who? It's not like having people die for the religion is unheard of.
The Pentateuch has a whole story about God revoking the practice of Human sacrifice, not to mention, you know, the story of Jesus. Also necrophilia is involved in that ritual.
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>>94264142
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>>94264146
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>>94263851
Boring. Tankista went down hill after worm v5 gimel. Such heights will never be reached again.
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>>94264156
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>>94264162
He fell for the meme of complexity = fun
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>>94264168
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>>94264180
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>>94264195
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>>94264206
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How does this family system look?
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>>94264306
Seems fair to me.
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>>94264306
Looks better than before, that is for sure.
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>>94264306
>Tribunal
>second to last line
It should say "none of your family members can be of opposing aspects" instead.
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>>94264306
Tribunal and Council are the same or did you do an oopsie? And what are cosmic points?
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>>94264335
Cosmic Points are used to buy powers, and yes they're meant to be the 'default' options.

>>94264329
How is that substantially different from what i wrote?
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>>94264369
What you wrote has the loophole of the family members being of opposing aspects.
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>>94264306
Just thinking about having to update my build makes me fucking mad....
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>>94264369
>How is that substantially different from what i wrote?
With your current set up, it is possible that you can have Blood and Breath siblings while you're Void. He does not want this to happen.
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>>94264374
>>94264377
Ohhh i get it know, yes you're right. I was thinking only of the player character.
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>>94264375
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>>94264369
Would giving lonesome road more points to buy companions not go against the theme of being alone? I think it would be more thematic that they also get less court points than any other option and instead get more personal power. Just my personal opinion.
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>>94264375
Do you not enjoy making image builds? If not, why do you make them?
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>>94264369
Why would anyone pick tribunal over council?
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>>94264385
The idea is to build a family using Companions and your Angel, not to be forever alone.
Even the Lonesome Road has companions.
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>>94264395
I love making image builds, I just HATE when authors update the CYOAs and FORCE me to make major changes to my image builds.
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>>94264413
But doesn't this give you the chance to work more on an image build and expand your character?
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>>94264369
Angel-sama... are you still a jobber?
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>>94264418
No, I already did everything I wanted to do in the first build, it is just annoying as fuck to me and I fucking HATE to update my image builds. I dropped this build because the author keept updateing the CYOA over and over again and I fucking lost my patience and just diden't want to play cat and mouse with that retarded fuckwit of an author and I am feeling dangerously close doing the same with every Aro build, like right now I will NEVER make a new image build for a Aro CYOA because it will get updated to death
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>>94264455
Forgot to post the build because just thinking about it made me so fucking angry, pic realted
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>>94264434
You already know
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For all her faults Angel never did excessive updates and I love her for it!
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>>94264466
That's a no then.
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>>94264472
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>>94264455
But answer me this, tok. Why would anyone choose to cater to you over shoring up what they feel like are flaws in their cyoa?
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>Does a god cyoa
>Does not even know how big is the sun
Its arover...
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>>94264493
Yeah its uh... *checks notes*
pretty big but could be bigger.
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>>94264455
Make a Magocratic Convention image build.
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Why are you so negative?
Why cant you choose to be someone who deserves to be happy?
What happened in your upbringing to make you this way?
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>>94264498
>pretty big but could be bigger.
what a slut
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>>94264488
>But answer me this, tok. Why would anyone choose to cater to you over shoring up what they feel like are flaws in their cyoa?
Don't make a flawed CYOA to begin with and you don't have to update it. Like I don't mind authors adding new stuff to their CYOAs, it is VERY easy to incorporate into a image build as long as I have space for it. But entire options, the entire point balance and fundamental stuff like how the Demigod parents work fucks up my image builds and forces me to remake them from scratch. My first demigod build was very different from the one I have now. It is not fun to redo a image build like that, it fucking sucks. It also sucks a regular CYOA players perspective. Like Demigod didn't need a remake, it was good as it was. I would much more like Aro to make a entire new CYOA instead of rekaming Demigod and the same is fucking true with Ultimate God and I think most people think that way. No one one really wants Aro to do remakes of her CYOAs, they want new CYOAs. Like Aro is the fucking Disney of CYOAs, always making remakes after remakes. I'm so goddamn tired of Aro remakes and I bet /cyoag/ is that too
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>>94264501
>Make a Magocratic Convention image build
I never liked that CYOA, I much prefer Blood Magic
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I hate to admit it but T*k is right about Arobitch
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>>94264540
Sounds like that's a you problem
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I think Tok is an attention-seeking narcissist.
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>>94264540
Why do you keep remaking dragonfall then? Why was it not perfect to begin with?
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>>94263934
I form the head.
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>>94264598
No! How could you think that?
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>>94264603
I think he should remake it again. 3 more times just to be sure.
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>>94264603
>Why do you keep remaking dragonfall then? Why was it not perfect to begin with?
Update is not remake. I added new shit to Dragonfall like the Pacts and the Legendary Features. To remake is to take existing options and alter them like changing the description of all the options and even change the graphical design of the entire CYOA. I think that a CYOA author should have a clear vision of what they want to do and then commit to it. Adding new things and expanding on things is okey, but changing your vision is NOT okey. If you diden't like your vision then you should have not made it and should still work on what you want your vision to be. Not rush out a half done CYOA only to remake it from scratch.
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>>94264643
Then Aro updating Gateway and Ultimate God should not count as remakes either.
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>>94264649
>Then Aro updating Gateway and Ultimate God should not count as remakes either.
I never made a build for Gateway since that CYOA was too railroady when it came to build variety. And the new Ultimate God is not out yet so I can't say anything about that either, but Demigod was a fucking remake
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>>94264306
Why can't everyone have a secondary aspect? *sad n0ises*
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>>94264697
Because some people are more speshul than others
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>>94264673
>was too railroady
Basically this. Aro could not understand. To her, it was about 'supporting a build'. Not seeing how she was reducing build variety. Reminds me of that 40k cyoa that is also on rails because everything combos into the next thing.
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>>94263965
Flopstafags cannot comprehend that people don't like his dogshit. Literal subhumans.
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>>94264673
Demigod got remade? Sweet.
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>>94264724
Yes, it must have gotten remade about 40 times by now.
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>>94264734
Sweet x 40.
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>>94264739
based
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>>94264598
He's always been an attention seeking narcissist. The problem is that he won't go away.
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>>94264649
Toks double standard knows no bounds, anon.
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>>94264802
Tok has a vivid imagination combined with a humiliation fetish and a hypno kink he expresses with his cuckbscked fever dreams of watching anons back his "waifu" zynthia in tons of cyoas
Except he wants to BE zynthia
Mans subconcious is cooked
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>>94264822
>Tok has a vivid imagination
Really don't agree. I think that some of his aesthetic issues are a symptom of aphantasia.
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>>94263912
Are you really attributing phrases like "he's a user of magic!" to sweaty old neckbeards playing pretend in a basement? No one else in history ever used that combination of words?
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>>94265004
That's not what you said. You said the term "magic-user" was not invented by dnd.
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>>94265038
What do you think magic-user is.
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>>94263962
>funnyjunk
unequivocally based
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>>94263942
>forced parenthood
Frankly, it’s more of a surprise adoption in my opinion.
Regardless, looking forward for him to drop his next work now that he har returned.
Kirilia best girl.
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>>94263615
I sartre myself to have mind control over the witch I build here.

>Arcane Origins
[[Self-Taught]]
I am ruling out Demonic Oath and Bioarcane Splicing because taking drawbacks for someone who isn't me (and whose wellbeing I do not overly care about) is too cheaty. Of the 3 drawbackless options, Self-Taught brings the least contact with other witches who might discover that I control her mind, thus increasing my expected remaining lifespan by helping me avoid justice.
>Magical Attunement
[[Mending Mastery]]
The availability of magical healing at times of emergency should increase my expected remaining lifespan.
[[Alchemy]]
The potions might include ones that increase my expected remaining lifespan. If not, we won't focus on this field.
[[Astromancy]]
I will use this to avoid possible futures which reduce my lifespan, for example by traffic accidents. This should increase my expected remaining lifespan.
[[Demonics]]
The power and aid gained from symbiotic agreements might increase my expected remaining lifespan. If not, we won't focus on this field.
>Familiar
[[Cat]]
It stands to reason that the arcane pests that plague my aura carry arcane diseases, and the arcane cat can hunt them down, lowering the chance of arcane infection and increasing my expected remaining lifespan.
>Atelier
[[Apartment]]
Her living alone conceals any evidence of mind control, delaying any acts of justice against me, which increases my expected remaining lifespan.
>Witches Coven
[[Covenless]]
Her time and effort shall be spent on increasing my expected remaining lifespan and not on other things.
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>>94265278
>i sart-
invalid build, NEXT
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>>94264604
You're the asshole and everyone knows it, catnigger spammer.
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>>94264603
He's remade quite a few of his cyoas over and over, or at least updated them numerous times. 5-12 versions. It's nuts.
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>>94265325
What has it been invalidated from? The Great Build Contest with the $5000 prize, judged by international build experts?
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>>94265354
it's not canon if you cheat like a metafag
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>>94265359
The author did say that it was supposed to be a waifu builder.
Should probably update "my" build with that in mind.
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>>94265354
Nothing. Except invalidated from the canon of an anon you don't know nor care about so it doesn't matter. If anything, seeing him seethe about it brings me joy.
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>>94265004
Not in the English language and with enough frequency that it was remembered, no, and mostly because the words "witch", "wizard", "sorcerer", and "magician" already exist.
>>94265038
That is in fact what he said in the post you are responding to, in the most annoying way possible by simply ignoring your statement that he can't convincingly respond to.
>>94263845
>coin it further, by making it a known type of phrase.
In other words, invent the term "magic user"(as opposed to "magic" "user")?
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>>94265354
Are you telling me you _don't_ want to win $5000?
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>>94265278
Why cheat to shoot yourself?
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>>94263933

>The Little Prince: True Heart. (73)
Frankly, sounds like one of the most valuable choices. What point is there to phenomenal worldly power if you cannot enjoy an earnest sense of beauty of what surrounds you?

Similarly,
>Bridge to Terabithia: Fortune's Gentle Touch (69)
Minor plot armor against accident seems darned handy. Not that amazing, since you could still be deliberately injured by totally random people, but still, nice.

And, oh, hey!
>Bambi: The Love of a Mother (64)
>The Cycle of Life (63)
Protects me from that as well, so long as I'm not being murderous myself, which should be easily avoidable. Plus some more healthy psychological help. Grief can be a crippling thing.

With the above protections, adding in
>Alice in Wonderland: Down the Rabbit Hole (62)
Can lead to a series of interesting adventures, even in mundane worlds. All on the cheap!

For more powerful supernatural benefits, let's turn to
>Pippi Longstocking: The Strongest Girl In the World (60)
Which is pretty inexpensive, but probably reasonably so for how helpful superhuman strength actually is most of the time. And what the heck,
>Treasure Bag (27)
Money is handy. And I guess the anti-theft bit means I don't need to worry about carrying the bag around with me.

Then
>Tuck Everlasting: An Unassuming Spring (54)
Because frankly, aging isn't that great.

>The Lightning Thief: Demi-Demigod (49)
For 'aerokinesis,' mostly because it seems awfully nice to be able to fly unassisted.

>The Hobbit: Three Rings (38)
Pricey one there, but I hope the benefits justify it. Healing is always nice, and unlike the fire-flower cordial, I don't think it's limited here.
>There and Back Again (35)
Provides still-stronger plot armor.

(...cont...)
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>>94265452
Back to the smaller-scale gifts

>The Very Hungry Caterpillar: So Hungry (36)
I confess, I would like to be more attractive.

>Tom Sawyer: Speechcraft (33)
Although I wouldn't want to be a liar, a charismatic tongue would also be nice to have.

>The Book of Three: Dyrnwyn (30)
I would also like to be the sort of man to hold a holy sword, although I don't know how often I would really unsheathe it.

>Charlotte's Web: Omniglot (22)
Is handy if one wants to wander among many different peoples.

Let's also throw in
>Encyclopedia Brown: Elementary School (18)
For a better grasp of reality. Who likes feeling uncertain about things?

Finally, some more worlds. I don't want all of them, but we'll go with some interesting/pleasant settings, which with I am personally familiar...

>A Wrinkle In Time (16)
>Encyclopedia Brown (13)
>Harry Potter (8)
>The Wizard of Oz (5)
>The Hobbit (1)

And, hm, one point left. I guess let's go for Roald Dahl's Psychokinetic, and then hope for the best.
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>>94263942
>Do not care for your lore, SHITalics
Italics lore be like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4FF7x8vnZg
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>>94263853
>timer hell
The enshittification of the Internets continues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTeLmwm_EE
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As I read City Witch, I was faced with the question of how to relate to the character being created in the CYOA.

>Option 1
>The City Witch is me
Normally the most natural approach. The CYOA always refers to the character being created as "you". However the CYOA also repeatedly describes witches as female, and I don't want to BTG.

>Option 2
>The City Witch is a character unrelated to me, I will never meet her and I might not even exist within the setting of the CYOA
If I had a particularly interesting concept for a character, I might make such a build. However I didn't have such a concept. Also, I was caught in an escapistic mood and wanted to self-insert into the setting in at least some capacity.

>Option 3
>I exist nearby, the City Witch is my waifu
This would be a sartre. I dislike that the premise leaves ambiguous to what extent would she help me achieve my goals, which makes optimization too fuzzy. It's also too low-tension.

>Option 4
>I exist nearby, I mindcontrol the City Witch
This would also be a sartre. Controlling someone's mind is an exceedingly clear and simple relation to a person. Clarity and simplicity with such a thing encourages optimization, which makes the self-insert feel sharper and more rewarding. Mind control is surely a horrible thing, which also adds some nice tension to the premise as I need to hide my crime.
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>>94265478
Remember, nothing in magi case is good, and if you find something you like, italics will make up a list of reasons why that thing you like isn't actually something you like.
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>>94265556
So I just have to find something you like, be loud about it and Italics will nerf your build for me? Nice.
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>>94265568
The true strat to beating the other clans. Evoco has fallen, Ford is on the decline, now we must take out the other clans.
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>>94265556
He has yet to do this for the things I like because I'm not greedy like most of you. You're probably a timefag.
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>>94265590
I forgot time clan also got nerfed.
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>>94265556
>Not just ignoring italics
If it's not in the CYOA itself, whatever he says doesn't exist.
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>>94265598
True. Fuck authors nerfing shit.
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ALLSYNCANON!
Allsync doesn't have the 5 option version of the Sartre cyoa, it only has the 3 option version.
Allsync also doesn't have My Computer ( https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RCtSeLYTTJ-2lxbPpotZMYq8MBLtuXQT ), which is a wip, but quite notable as far as wips go.
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>>94265615
I find it funny that a CYOA had to be made to give people permission to break their imaginary game. I'm not against it, but there's something to be said about the need to follow some kind of law and authority for some people even when presented with pure freedom. Even funnier when they fight over these made-up rules.
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>>94265556
Holy shit will you shut the fuck up and stop malding over nothing and shitposting. None of the shit you said, happened.
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>>94265590
Nobody got nerfed, not even timefags.That Anon is shitposting and just not getting muted for it.
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>>94265634
A cyoa's value isn't always primarily in weighing between the options in it, even if that's what makes it a cyoa to begin with.
Cyoas can also have literary quality and pretty pictures and meme value and worldbuilding and humor and other things, and the value in all these things can be more important.
The Jean Paul Sartre Cyoa Supplement is more or less a meme formatted as a cyoa.
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>>94265590
>>94265596
Reminder: Years before Magi Case came Italics has always posted that Time Stop in the CYOA is not an auto-win and can be broken or subverted.
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>>94265478
BOTH POST CYOAS!
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>>94265615
Way I see it, options 4 and 5 are pretty much just subsets of options 1 and 2.
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>>94261330
>Cyrus
>Floridian
>Last post was before Milton
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>>94265556
>>94265590
>FordGODS never got nerfed
Ermmmm inferior clans? Your response?
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>>94265839
As someone who made a Faber build I don't care since we profit off of most everyone. Pay your bills.
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EntropistAnon wasn't joking about mapmaking. Cartography something decent is a substantial undertaking, but I'm chiseling at it. I might forgo the map until the rest of the WIP is done. That's probably what I'll end up doing, as the map itself is secondary. Do you anons have any advice for making quality maps?
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>>94265922
Azgaar is what I've used. Allows me to go into autistic detail.
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>>94263933

Like >>94264003 I restricted myself to books I've read, the ones with green dots. And I ran out of options to pick (12 points left over).

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Options I rejected:

>The Hobbit
3 There And Back Again
Rejected because: I don't want the fate to conspire outcomes for me like that, that's creepy. I prefer seeing ordinary causality at work.

>Winnie the Pooh
3 Winnie the Pooh
Rejected because: I no longer possess the sincerety and wonder to fit in. It would be awkward and uncomfortable.

>Robin Hood
3 To Give To The Poor
Rejected because: I don't want the world to be directly shaped by my intentions, too lucid dreamlike, it reduces the tangibility of the setting.

>Tom Sawyer
5 Freedom of Speech
Rejected because: Global mind control, way creepy.

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Options I picked:

>The Little Prince
3 True Heart
4 The Little Prince, I'll have a computer planet and use the many decades to learn programming and try and write my own OS from scratch.

>Harry Potter 1
9 Yer A Wizard
5 Harry Potter, I attend at the time of Harry's parents, because I don't need to care about death so I must as well fuck the timeline up entirely.

>The Hobbit
11 The Three Rings
4 The Hobbit, I'll be the dwarf.

>Pippi Longstocking
2 The Strongest Girl In The World
3 Treasure Bag

>Winnie the Pooh
3 Bears Love Honey

>Robin Hood
2 The Shelter of Sherwood
3 The Adventures of Robin Hood

>20000 Leagues Under The Sea
2 Call of the Waves
2 20000 Leagues Under The Sea

>Grimm Fairy Tales
2 Master of Tales
2 Fairy Tales, I'll start with stories about nobles and royals so I can spend Pippi Longstocking's gold in the big cities.

>Tom Sawyer
3 Speechcraft

>Alice in Wonderland
3 A Grin Without A Cat
2 Down the Rabbit Hole
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>>94265922
Don't bother. Anons here will shit on your map no matter how well crafted it is.
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>>94266001
A map doesn't have to be well crafted to be effective. This one looks like it took no effort or skill yet it adds a lot to the CYOA I think.
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>>94264142
That's just one religion, and Jesus is basically IS a human sacrifice. The sex part shouldn't really change anything either.
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>>94266054
I'm talking about Isaac from their universally shared account of history. Also please don't make me go looking for religious verses that specifically condemn sex with the dead.
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>>94266073
> I'm talking about Isaac from their universally shared account of history.
That's literally the exact opposite of a condemnation of human sacrifice.
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>>94266017
Some cyoas are more heavily scrutinized than others, so if you're a new or hated author your maps are going to be destroyed with criticism and insults regardless of how well they've been done. Do you think if Entropist posted a similar map he wouldn't be relentlessly shat on? Tok's Dragonfall map wasn't even all that bad and it was made fun of until this day. This is why making maps is dumb. Someone like Italics can get away with a mediocre map, but a new author or someone like Tok? Forget about it.
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A God of Technology is inherently a God of Crafts.
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>>94266017
i remember that one autist who kept whining that eclan was ruined because it was landlocked in spite of things like teleportation and motherfucking magic crystals being things
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>>94266266
If they don't make the tech that they research i doubt it is like that
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>>94266275
All crafts are technology. Metalworking? That's a technology. Tailoring? Also a technology. Stonemasonry? Architecture? Carpentry? Glassblowing? Pottery? You guessed it, technologies. A God of Technology must intrinsically also be a God of Crafts, in the same way that a God of Earth is intrinsically a God of Granite.

Do keep in mind what the definition of technology is.
>Technology is the application of conceptual knowledge to achieve practical goals, especially in a reproducible way.
Far too many people treat technology as merely a synonym for machines and nothing more. A God of Technology is a God of Machines, yes, but a God of Machines is not necessarily a God of Technology.
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>>94266313
I meant it on the sense that you wouldn't call a researcher a craftsman
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>>94265334
You seem upset.
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>>94266266
Hephaestus is not a god of wood carving or sewing.
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Whats a good author, that gets shit on for no reason according to you?
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Is allsync dead?
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>>94266671
Aro
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>>94266671
AHS maybe. He wouldn't be even my top 10, but his ratio of goodness to getting shit for no reason might be the highest.
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>>94266671
Italics, Aro, Entropistanon, basically everyone except Tok.
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>>94265385
t. Mindbroken

lmfao
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>>94266671
Unironically Tok
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>>94266671
gil
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>>94266849
True, he's the SCAPEGOAT of cyoag.
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>>94266671
Me

>>94266857
YES!
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>>94266671
Dragon_jak.
He's got tok beat at his own game without even trying.
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>>94266671
Seconding Gil
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>>94266936
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>>94266943
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>>94266895
>tok posts a comic where he's represented by a character that breaks down in tears because anons bullied him
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>>94266936
>Sand
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>>94266955
Cyber bullying is "real", and it will only get worse.

I laughed my ass off at an article about a woman who was "gang raped" in a VR environment, "by force", and she "just took it like a victim".

BITCH JUST TAKE OFF THE VR HEADSET.

I don't think people realize how stupid humans are.
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>>94266969
thats fucking hilarious
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>>94266958
Yes?
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>>94266998
Sorry, your work was so bad it made me throw up.
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>>94266969
>>94266981
The "Cyber rape/bully" argument is buttressed by the "women shouldn't have to exclude themselves" argument. I.e, women shouldn't have to take off the VR headset.
You're still right to say that it's funny.
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>>94265278
>>94265511
This is the most autistic approach to CYOAs I have ever seen
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>>94266955
You don't understand, it's meant to show how he's SHOULDERING the hate of cyoag to protect us.
We should honor his sacrifice by making a lot of builds for him!
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>>94267008
If images can make you that nauseous, you should probably consult a doctor.
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>>94266969
IME the phrase cyberbullying is usually used in the context of schoolkids. Eg some little shits use social media to humiliate a kid from their class and turn the class against him, and the day after in school the whole class has been coordinated to bully the kid. So it's bullying and coordination of bullying using social media, but against a schoolkid who will face the brunt of it in real life because he has to show up at school, he doesn't have the right to just skip school to avoid it.
So it's not necessarily retarded. But when it's online-only, then it's retarded, yeah.
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>>94266671
Aro
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>>94265650
Nice historical revisionism. We remember though.
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>>94266906
>>94266855
Gil has unironically terrible taste on practically everything and is needlessly combative at all times.
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>>94266958
gato-sama... I kneel...
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>>94266969
Cyberbullying is real...
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>>94266958
I guess aro got to this guy too
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>>94266969
>I don't think people realize how stupid humans are.
Are you the physics fag? Only the physics fag says shit like this. “Bawwww humans are garbage we should all just lie down and DIE”.
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>>94267161
Rent free.
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>>94265839
How do you nerf the Ford Clan? Their Magic is literally the most baaic and explained.
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Who is the bigger cutie patootie, Tok or Gil?
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>>94267161
He absolutely is, yes.
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>>94266017
Mind posting the whole CYOA?
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>>94266671
Every single author has done something to make some anons angry. To say there is no reason is to deny reality.
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>>94267402
Pay close attention. The only authors mentioned are the same names being circlejerked around with artificial discussion. Its either the same anon or the authors themselves samefagging and trying to create synthetic discussion about them.
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>>94267252
SDA
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>>94267453
Maybe? I never pay enough attention to these things but I did see that some anon defending italics and then switching to defending aro so maybe you are right that is just one shitposter.
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>>94267161
Is physics fag hated simply because he doesn’t think like an idiot to fit in here?
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>>94267467
You are hated because you are an idiot.
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>>94265478
Why does everyone pretend that Lamentations is a bright sunny setting with furry women throwing themselves at you?

The CYOA has a giant black hole creature destroying reality, a giant lovecraftian horror causing memory death, bio-enugineered slave soldiers, genocide, Humanity is nearing extinction after getting nuked by the gods, totalitarian dictatorship the old world government is worshiped like a god despite it being shit, bird people raiding any technology like a toaster from your home, entire cities are lost ruins, etc.

Lamentation is just as dark as Magi Bloodlines. You can't just throw waifus and titties at anons and pretend that "Nah, none of happened. It's all bright and sunny. Look at my comfy house."
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>>94267493
presentation
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>>94267467
I just want to know what's going on inside your head. Did you REALLY think this was going to fool anyone?
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>>94267489
>>94267497
Mind. Broken. Holy shit.
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>>94267521
I accept your concession.
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>>94267530
Go ahead. Keep thinking holes are a thing. That episode was my favourite .
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>>94267535
I never argued with you and I never will. Arguing with retards who has weak bait such as you gets everybody nowhere.
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>>94267535
Holes are real, retard.
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>>94267547
>>94267549
LMAO
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>>94267535
Well there seemingly is no philosophical consensus on whether or not holes are 'real', but I'm just glad you've seemingly given up on pretending you weren't samefagging.
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>>94267549
The absent, non-existent mass that are holes definitely exist, yes. There’s still not anything in there. Hence hole. Its what you would call an absent existence.
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>>94267581
Or maybe I’m just rolling my eyes at everyone jumping at their own shadows.
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>>94267581
Philosophers will argue that something can exist (“exist”) as a lack relative to something else. That’s essentially what cold, darkness, holes, etc, are. Nuances. The people who think light or cold are actual things you can look at, fail at that nuance. They’re absences of the actual thing you CAN look at.
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>>94265615
that 5 options Sartre CYOA irks me
lemme fix the composition real quick
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>>94267496
Italics can't keep getting away with it.
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>>94267622
He can as long as his dickriders will tell you he nevee did anything wrong
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What in the fuck is their problem?
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>>94267614
Depends how you define a thing. One definition from google is 'an abstract entity, quality, or concept.' and under that definition a hole would be a 'thing'.
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>>94267562
I don't see whats funny about my post.
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>>94267142
me in the sofa
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If you can think it, it exists. Now shut the fuck up and report the physicfag for being off-topic and deliberate shitposting if he tries to start things after me.

If you reply to me arguing any against or after me, you are a shitposter.
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>>94267535
>is there a hole in the fence over there? that not something that exists is it????
>of course not, calm breaths. if I pretend the hole doesnt exist it cannot hurt me
>the holes not there. holes arent real
>(looks at fence again. the hole is still there)
>AIIEEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN IM GOING INSANEE

you cant make this up
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>>94267720
> If you reply to me arguing any against or after me, you are a shitposter.

What?
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>>94267702
Stop posting Techne. You will never be Ford's wife. He still doesn't know you exist even after you copied Telos body. Everything bad in the Ford Clan is your fault too.

- Sincerly. HundeGOD
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Jesus Christ you guys are so threatened by higher thinking.
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>>94267723
Point to the matter making up the hole. Oh wait—you can’t! Since it’s a fucking hole.
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>>94267036
Don't pander to the retard. You're completely right about cyberbullying, and anyone who's ever acted like it doesn't exist is either stupid or just doesn't know how bullying works. Like what, are they imagining some rando calling them a faggot like they're playing League of Legends or something? Is that what they think cyberbullying is?

Bully CYOA attached
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>>94267581
physicsfag was samefagging? color me surprised. I have more breaking news, the sky is blue. Oh, wait, stop physicsfag I am not saying colors are a thing in reality, of course "blue" doesnt exist and is a definition made by humans oh no stop dont kill me over it noo.

He is the type of kid in class that is stupid and wants to make everyone know about it, his only consolation is his imaginary friend hyping him up
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>>94267688
An unreal concept technically exists as a formation of your neurons + brain patterns and etc. The unreal has to be conceived of somewhere. Fiction lies in the brain, which is then put down on a thing / paper.

Physics cant stop winning.
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>>94267804
You’re physics fag I bet. Bitch.
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>>94267804
The wavelengths of photons that make up blue do exist though. They’re not an absence.
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Discuss.
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>>94267790
What's the mystery box?
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>>94267790
You sick fuck
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>>94267808
That's not what the definition means.
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>>94267834
Where blue starts and stops is purely a human concept. And is to a degree different cultures hace different names for the same colors and have them in different ranges, some even mix the same colors under the same name or separate them into different ones. Like blue and green being the same color.

As so, colors themselves dont exist, they are light yes but what is red? what is blue? those definitions are arbitrary. If you accept colors exist by human definition, the rest of concepts born from human definition also exist
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>>94267816
He'd never denigrate himself like that.
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>>94267790
Pretending you’re a victim is real. That’s still not real bullying. Take. Off. The. Headset. Turn off the computer. Holy shit.

There was an article that dropped right after the finale of Game of Thrones, that accused HBO of attacking the mental health of invested viewers. Just turn off the fucking television, holy fuck. It’s not a literal attack (rape) on art like the Rings of Power (which WILL cause aneurysms in those who actually HAVE integrity for Tolkien’s work).

You can also be so stupid you don’t realize you’re pretending to be a victim of something you can easily deal with.
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>Where blue starts and stops is purely a human concept.

Stopped reading here. I bet you think “diseases” like Aphantasia are real and not made up bullshit.
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>>94267888
I wouldn’t. It’s already too far fucked. This is beyond reckoning.
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>>94267875
Shut the fuck up, retard. I didn't read your dull post because I have no reason to read something written by someone who doesn't think cyberbullying is real. That's like saying you don't think bananas are real. The greatest illusion the internet promotes is that every opinion is equal.
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>>94267856
There is only one thing to do on this situation.
to extend your life by any means necessary then come back and call her an idiot for believing she was EVER gonna be rid of you
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>>94267885
Is that concept hard to grasp for your mind? US education system at its finest
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>>94267898

>>94267892
Where do you think it became chalked. That is the first step in yoi fixing it.
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He is our most powerful shitposter….
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>>94267912
Last page. So how do you fix it, Anon?
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Kleidi my little stressed waifu...
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>>94267906
>Oh, you silly little elf.
>Did you think I was going to leave your side?
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How does he always manage to do this? Can you people really not hold yourself back from the urge to correct someone who is clearly being intentionally wrong and stupid?
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How do you fix these cases, Anon?
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>>94267938
You've never had a thought in your life that didn't come from a /pol/ thread. It's crazy how quickly you people fall in line.
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I will try to sum up magic autist's argument.

He defines "existence" as being made of "matter" ( >>94267788 ) because he doesn't know what any of the words he uses means. This is certainly not a defintion used by anyone in physics. For example everyone would say photons exist, but photons are not matter - matter means having mass and photons don't have mass. That's why they can travel at the speed of light in a way anything with mass cannot.
Worse than that, he then ( >>94267834 ) says wavelengths "exist". So... I don't even know where to begin with this one. Wavelengths are made of matter? Wavelengths have mass? That's like saying the probability of winning a lottery has mass.
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>>94267940
We still interact with Tok a decade later, you should've seen this coming.
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>>94267940
That's the thing, he ISN'T doing it on purpose. No one who's just shitposting would do it for this long, this consistently and with this much thought put into it. He just genuinely has an ego the size of the moon and absolutely zero self awareness.
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>>94267938
Lmao
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>>94263910
Gilposter is gil. No one else cares enough to post about him
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>>94267947
>How do you fix these cases, Anon?
Easy, I pick The Ending Days of a Magi Investigator which guarantees that survived all the other case and completed them
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>>94267969
>He defines "existence" as being made of "matter"
Nope. Even space is a fabric of a sort—which is something Einstein knew.

You don’t even know me enough to argue against me.

If something exists, it just exists.
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>>94267983
Or he just doesnt have a life. Remember he was samefagging, something people picked on several times and acted like someone was not only dumb enough to agree with him but also to care enough to defend him. He is either a troll without a life and too much free time or he is truly dumb and lonely. But yeah, we should ignore anyone calling physicsfags because its probably just him wanting his attention
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>>94268001
Gilposter is only Gil when it suits him.
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>>94264083
Fucking kek
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Planar Split
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>>94268020
In >>94267788 you said "matter" is necessary for something to "exist". So you decided to change your definitions?
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People interacting with the most obvious bait these days
Smh my head
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>>94267969
>but photons are not matter
Lol, retard. Maybe physics fag is right about you dolts not knowing what energy is.
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>>94268042
It's "Smh" or "shaking my head". You wouldn't say "shaking my head my head", would you?
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>>94268042
What do you mean "these" days? Shit has been like this. A bunch of teens and 20 nothings wanting to feel "intellectual" over the most inane stupid shit as a form of getting off.
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>>94268062
RIP in peace.
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>>94268037
Reasonable way to deal with most cyoa settings.
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>>94268084
Ever wondered why CYOAs are not real? In actuality, they're just not real *anymore*. The Convention did its job.
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I see the Harahel CYOA has released it's character creation demo for the game he's making. Why are the rest of you such slackers?
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>>94268142
That's still going?
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>>94267969
>photons are not matter - matter means having mass and photons don't have mass
They are a special case of matter without mass, in-fact. Photons are still energy as a point of it—and matter and energy are interchangeable. Photons have no resting position to have mass, but they’re still a particle, and this matter.
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>>94268152
and thus matter*

The specialness of light is the key to Einstein’s famous equation.
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>>94268147
It is. Ugly as shit but progress is progress.
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>>94268104
>all that remains is the Empyrean
They have shit taste then.
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>>94268055
>>94268152
NTA but matter is literally defined as having mass.
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>>94267788
There's always going to be matter in an area being defined as a hole, you troglodyte. A hole in a fence includes the air in that hole, because that air is A: being surrounded by something else and B: not what one would first consider as an object. Not to mention, the space itself exists. Do you not believe in air because you don't notice touching it?
>>94267940
Can't or won't, but which doesn't matter.
>>94267888
>>94267898
As far as I can tell, it's just your clan determining what type of magic you can use and you choosing a spellcasting method? The Magic System page feels more like a lore document, and it might be, I've never played Magi Case. It could be fixed by adding more things to choose. For example, if the spellcasting methods were broken into subsections too, and you picked say, two from one and one from another. But it doesn't seem like this is meant to be engaging in that way, but as an aide to whatever companions and investigation things you pick.
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>>94268159
Italics and Tok could never get this far.
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In the Walk Blessed roller, if you roll an option that has different benefits if you already have a certain power, can you 'save' the benefits until you have the power or do you need to buy the power ahead of time?
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>>94268159
>>94268179
>vomit-inducing tranny furry anime trash
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>>94267842
Its just wrong on almost everything. Nothing to discuss.
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>>94267842
I dont know who any of these are.
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>>94268174
>For example, if the spellcasting methods were broken into subsections too,
How do you break those three into subsections.
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>>94268207
And yet it has reached farther than you ever could. Degenerates are motivated and get shit done.
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>>94268062
what the wtf are you on about,dweeb
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>>94268170
And yet photons don’t have mass, and are still nonetheless a particle.

This is common “well ain’t that weird” science information.

It’s still matter.
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>>94268055
>>94268152
Here for example is Encyclopedia Britannica's defintion:
https://www.britannica.com/science/matter
>At the most fundamental level, matter is composed of elementary particles known as quarks and leptons
So photons don't count as "matter". I googled around and photons seem to be always excluded from "matter".

>They are a special case of matter without mass, in-fact.
Show me this definition of "matter" (from some serious source)?
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>>94268237
Being a particle is not what makes something matter. Having mass makes something matter, and photons do not. Seriously, just google it.
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>>94268174
>There's always going to be matter in an area being defined as a hole, you troglodyte.
Nope. Space isn’t made of particles.

Mentioning air as containing particles is irrelevant when space (deep space) is even more devoid of shit, consisting mostly of radiation, or a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter. By comparison, the air humans breathe contains about 1025 molecules per cubic meter.

Please stop being disingenuous.
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>>94268264
A photon is literally a particle, which is what makes up matter.

You’re not googling well enough it seems. You’re not familiar with photon’s motions.
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>>94268237
Like in the discussion earlier in the thread, you are pretending you said something other than what you actually said, and hoping nobody notices.
You thought photons were "matter", and you were proven wrong. Now you are pretending you never said that, and that you instead said photons are particles (which is trivial).
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Matter/mass is frequently described poetically as frozen light/energy lol, and this is all thanks to Einstein.
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>>94268288
No you’re just failing at nuance and semantics. You’re too emotionally charged to debate me at the moment. Come back later.
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Plurp down the plop
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>>94268192
I will suposse its the Dark Smite weapon. Because you didng give the example.

In your plans dark smite comes after Wlak blessed. You have the dark smite weapon as normal. Then you get fark smite yourself, now the dark smite of the weapon is enhanced.
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>>94268281
All matter being particles doesn't mean or imply all particles are matter. This is literally the first definition I got of matter:
> physical substance in general, as distinct from mind and spirit; (in physics) that which occupies space and possesses rest mass, especially as distinct from energy.
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>>94268241
Okay.

Photons do not have mass or do not have a known quantity of mass, meaning they are not matter in that sense. However, photons are particles that are emitted and travel as waves, meaning that as particles they can be considered matter, just matter without mass which makes them a paradox.

This is so simple that you arguing against it just means you’re too angry to see it.

Your hatred of some annoying shitposters has gone and de-educated you.
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>>94268310
>All matter being particles doesn't mean or imply all particles are matter
Just because you’re correct doesn’t mean you’re right. :^)
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Retards, stop discussing with THE retard.

Cattofagottooo i love you marry meee
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>>94268308
I was going with 9 but the question applied to multiple options really.
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>>94268341
Oh, anyway it works like with the dark smite weapon. It would start as a normal element and then become empowered and easier to use. Maybe something like the Soul eating fire of Ectos in case of fire
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Arguing there isn’t a background to the foreground is like those anti-materialists that will argue God isn’t made up of anything to reinforce their anti-materialist views, not realizing that they are implying, in the process, that God doesn’t exist at all, because he isn’t made up of anything. That he has no god logic to him.

If something exists, it has to first exist, in order to exist… because it exists… it is there… I don’t care if it’s particles or waves or empty space… IT IS STILL THERE…!
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>>94268213
With incantations I don't really know how to make variations of it(maybe dividing it into magical languages? But that might contradict lore), but catalyst and leylines can be broken into catalysts and leylines, and projection can be varied by its consequences for overuse(hallucinations, physical exhaustion, spell failure).

>>94268270
>Space isn't made of particles.
You're right, "always" is an overstatement. That's why I specifically mentioned that the space itself exists irrespective of the particles in my post, something which completely contradicts your claim that holes cannot exist without being made of matter. My point is that in actual application you absolutely can point to specific matter as being the hole if you want to. Also, why are you mentioning deep space, aside from pedantry? What have you found with a hole in it there?

No, I will not stop being disingenuous until it stops being fun.

>>94268281
(You) are an anon, which is what makes up 4chan.

You're not googling well enough it seems. You're not familiar with (You)'s motions.

Tell me, are you 4chan?
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>>94268315
The quote even admits that photons aren't truly matter.
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>>94268366
Also, it might seem odd to use an option to choose negative consequences, but what I was thinking of was being able to control what side effects you suffer between the two. For example, you might find hallucinations to be totally manageable normally, but want to avoid them at all costs in combat.
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>>94268366
NTA, but yes, I am the hacker known as 4chan
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>>94268366
>No, I will not stop being disingenuous until it stops being fun.
So you admit you’re reinforcing miseducation. Because of some educated asshole you don’t like. Wow.

It’s like that guy who started the MSG ‘Chinese food syndrome’ panic “as a joke”, and not knowing whether the letter was truly a joke or not “is part of the joke”. Even though MSG was made by a Japanese man and is literally the “umami” shit millennials gape mouth over.

Humans are so fucking stupid, they will reinforce being stupid, to other stupids.
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>>94268369
And yet it also acknowledges them as a form of matter, being a particle. The speed of light messing with mass/matter is precisely a part of the whole eureka moment Einstein had.
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>>94268315
That's a lot of words when all you needed was to
>Show me this definition of "matter" (from some serious source)?

The question was about how "matter" is defined.
You suggest there is some authoritative definition of "matter" out there that includes photons, yet refuse to show it.
Meanwhile, every academic physics source that does define "matter" seems to exclude photons (and demand mass).
So the latter seem to be right and you seem to be wrong.
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>If something exists, it has to first exist, in order to exist… because it exists… it is there… I don’t care if it’s particles or waves or empty space… IT IS STILL THERE…!
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>>94268397
Keep being disingenuous because you’re buthurt I guess
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>>94268398
Yes, anon. If something is there, there is something there to it.

This is what anti-materialists fail to grasp.
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No. There are no particles or waves or anything to a magic missile. If you look at mana powder beneath a microscope, you see nothing there.
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>>94268394
Particle =/= Matter. Literally what is difficult to grasp about this? Show me literally one definition of matter that includes all particles.

Also note that you got that quote from Homework.Study.Com as opposed to any reputable source.
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>>94268394
>>94268397
Couldn't you move this conversation to /sci/? There is a whole board for you to discuss the subject.
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>>94268417
>If you look at mana powder beneath a microscope
>you see nothing there.
So it doesn’t exist? There is nothing to make magic missile. You have a vital misunderstanding of how the macro/micro of a thing works. The micro or macro look at a thing isn’t a separate reality. It’s the same thing, constructed up, deconstructed down.
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>>94268179
Italics here. I have picked up learning C++ and the use of Visual Studio. Though, I'm far off from what I want to do with it. I also made dummy VN scenes using assets generated by AI.
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From now on, if anyone ever tries to claim that the physicsfag is actually smart and is only a problem because he's overly pendantic/an asshole, I'm going to refer them to the fact that he flatly refuses to accept that photons aren't matter.
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>>94268420
>Particle =/= Matter

You appear to be insane or just mentally retarded.

>>94268429
Nope. If it’s taking them this long to get it,
I may as well continue ruining threads. It (this stubborn refusal to grasp something so simple) is why I’m even here. It’s fun to see people panic because they’re so dumb.
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>>94268442
You don’t accept that photons are particles. Everyone in the physics community will laugh at you. Lmao.
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>>94268450
Photones = particles. Yes

Particles = matter. No

This is a new low even for you, physicsfag. Should change your name to matterfag because you think everhthing is matter, with your logic fucking radio waves could be treated as matter with enough dumb thinking
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>>94268443
> You appear to be insane or just mentally retarded.
JFC. That is literally not how matter is defined. You can't just invent your own definitions for shit and expect everyone else to play along.
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To me, matter is anything that is real, and capable of being analyzed. Since we are all embedded in space, I assume space is a thing as well, despite not being *that* kind of matter. Spacematter is the field for things to Happen. Wormholes are literally folded space.

You’re all gay btw.
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>Open thread
>Complete fucking dogshit
>Close thread
Something that happens a bit too frequently these days
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>>94268366
Your idea sounds more like dividing up the use and punishment system into choices.
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>>94268468
>Should change your name to matterfag because you think everhthing is matter
Just say you think something can exist without existing lol.
>>94268473
You’re still coping. At this point you’re just screaming down a well.
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>>94268439
I don't believe it until I see results. You promise a lot of things but don't deliver, I have no faith in you.
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>>94268439
Why do you need to learn code? What's your goal there?
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>>94268439
Love you italics. I am glad you the kind lf person that wants to learn new things
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>>94268468
>radio waves could be treated as matter with enough dumb thinking

Do radio waves exist? There’s something to them? That can be described as “matter” outside of traditional matter/mass.

If something exists, it’s going to have particles, waves, etc, to it. The problem with you anti-materialists is that you think a thing can be a thing without having a thing, or things, to it.
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>>94268493
Yes, talking to you is very much akin to screaming down a well. Particles =/= Matter. This is incredibly easy to understand for everyone except you.
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>>94268382
I will find all the other stupids and collect them in pokeballs, yes.

In all seriousness, that was a joke, in case you couldn't tell. People can seriously disagree with you because you are wrong, and not because I hate you as a person. You're probably an entirely normal individual for the most part. Now, would you care to actually respond to the claim that A: You have stated yourself that space exists, B: you have accepted that holes are composed of a volume of space rather than matter, therefore C: holes exist.

>>94268379
z0mg, I'd better get a dog.

>>94267872
To turn these annoying conversations somewhat more relevant, at what degree of changes does a cyoa update become a remake?

>>94268295
>Celestial
I can probably have fun without an avatar, and always working through proxies seems interesting.

Major themes:
>Death
Death to holes.
>Weather
I shall remove all air from holes everywhere.
>Magic
With this power, I shall makes holes cease to exist.
>Wisdom
I shall enlighten others to the fundamental truth that holes are not real.

Minor themes:
>Prophecy
I forsee a future without holes.
>Justice
I shall show what is right, and it's certainly not the existence of holes.
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>>94268517
>Particles =/= Matter
You appear to be insane.
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>>94268417
Wow, this is super outdated. Helodora the Wise showed that this result was purely because of a poor enchantment on the lenses. With glass vetted by a competent enchanter (ie not a gnome), the manons show up as predicted. Check out her article in the Grimoire of Quantitative Mana Sciences back in 1995
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>>94268528
> In classical physics and general chemistry, matter is any substance that has mass and takes up space by having volume.[1] All everyday objects that can be touched are ultimately composed of atoms, which are made up of interacting subatomic particles, and in everyday as well as scientific usage, matter generally includes atoms and anything made up of them, and any particles (or combination of particles) that act as if they have both rest mass and volume. However it does not include massless particles such as photons, or other energy phenomena or waves such as light or heat.[1]:21[2]
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>>94268495
>I don't believe it until I see results
It might be awhile since I'm still learning. I got two friend, one whondoes software for a living at least telling me where I fuck up and explaining things to me.

He told me the best thing to do after making the basics is just to make a simple 2D project. So when I get decent enough. I'll make something top-down like Echoes into a short playable demo focusing on movement, room transition, and tactical combat.

>You promise a lot of things but don't deliver,
I always deliver and release. I'm just slow.
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>>94268517
Ignore him. I think he even passed Tok in being a retard. At least Tok wouldnt defend something so stupid for that amount of time, he would retreat silently which is smater than his tantrum right now
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>>94268525
>People can seriously disagree with you because you are wrong

They have yet to do so successfully. ;^)

Keep thinking holes are created by matter, and not its absence.
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>>94268537
Where are the 5 OCs you'd said would be "quick"?
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>>94267614
Philosophers are mostly retarded sophists who's suppositions have no actual bearing on reality. Que your every opinion.
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>>94268534
Do you really think mass and matter are not interchangeable? Lmao.
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>>94268550
>Missed the point
I know how it feels anon, read again
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>>94268546
Ironic, when theoretical/hypothetical physics cant avoid taking philosophical positions. If you decry philosophy, you are Reddit incarnate.

You guys are just affirming that you’re dumber than Einstein, who valued the likes of philosophy, and actually knew what the word meant.

Philosophy is just pondering. Good lord. “How, why is it so?”.
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>>94268550
Right, and since photons don't have mass they aren't matter.
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>>94268563
kiko
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>>94268534
>Wikipedia
You made a big oopsie.
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>>94268563
need more options
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>>94268538
Yeah, I should probably give up now. At least whatever small amount of credibility he had has been thoroughly dismantled by now.
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>>94268565
And yet physicists treat particles as existing/matter. Matter/mass is literally just frozen light/energy. e =mc2

Everything meets in the end. Cope.
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>>94268578
Do you really think you’re more physics aware than fucking Einstein? Jesus of Nazareth.
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>>94268559
Nigger you are literally the right panel convinced yourself that you're the left. Most philosophers are retards like yourself with only a handful contributing to anything substantial like the philosophy of science
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>>94268501
>Why do you need to learn code?
I got convinced into picking it up as a hobby during my off time instead of doujin collecting, finding old retro games to play and other misc shit that cost money (excluding CYOA making) or requires travel.

>What's your goal there?
I hate the current quality of new games as well and there are few that appeal to me. So why not just make my own for fun and let others hopefully enjoy them as well.

It would be fantastic if I could end up like one of those amazing solo devs you always see. Years of dedication for a great project. It would be nice to make Eternal Blue, Echoes, or even Lamentation real and have a more interactive experience. But that's a too fae ahead talk and dream.
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Comfy thread.
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>>94268539
I outright stated that holes are not created by matter. I responded considering that position specifically because you mentioned it as a reason why holes don't exist. You're avoiding your previous incorrect statements because you cannot defend them and will not accept it. Holes do not require an absence of all matter, or the presence of matter. They are defined by a difference, and usually a lack of SOLID matter.

>>94268559
To be entirely fair, he did say mostly. Additionally, the philosophers currently alive are not those who were alive when Einstein said that.

>>94268537
Good luck, I look forward to seeing the results, and I suppose I'll get to look forward to it for a long time.

>>94268563
I Sartre this to pick option 8: remove all holes from the CYOA.

Yes, I am mindbroken. No, I will not post without at least mentioning cyoas in a cyoa thread.
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>>94268592
See
>>94268545
See how you don't answer and why you're untrustworthy?
I rest my case.
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>>94268621
Is anyone actually retarded enough to believe someone who can not even finish a fucking image full of stolen art in less than one year is somehow going to make a game?
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I'm just looking for a home

>>94268639
>>94268639
>>94268639
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>>94268633
Yes, I am. He won't die of old age or starvation first, as he's too slow for such things.
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>>94268545
Luminary - Bigger than I expected due to changes from when the statement was initially claimed.

Ecclesiastes - Nearing writing completion, additional subordinates slowed it down. I do have worries that people may not like the fact there are no male subordinates and the power system is very free form.

Echoes PSY - A big three part CYOA that is getting rewriten from when it was originally concievesd. New choices, new text, design, etc.

Star Runners - Customization system is larger than initially pitched especially since a ship creation sub-section was tacked on and a lot of fluff added to choices.

There is also the bonus of Cogency CYOA. But I have a fear of people not liking it due to there being only 9 superpowers, you can only pick 1, fear of people maybe not liking powers having techniques to them (EX: Superior Strength has a technique for it giving you super speed via thrusting force), and it being rather short. Nearing last stage of writing with companions, powers and main quest holding it back.

>>94268621
What os with you? I'm not at a computer to type. So I have to type by phone.
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>>94268037
Useful beyond the use of harvesting mana. Outlawing it is folly.
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>>94268671
>I do have worries that people may not like the fact there are no male subordinates
Just give an option/perk/etc. to genderswap the subordinates, you don't even have to include images.
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>>94268621
See how you don't answer me after you get a response. How untrustworthy you are?
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>>94268732
>Just give an option/perk/etc. to genderswap the subordinates,
That's kinda of gay. I'm also not a fan of a genderswap option as an options due to their connections with a lot of poorly made CYOAs. It seems lazy and tacked on, especially since it is so meta of an option.

>you don't even have to include images.
I learned not including images is a detriment.
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>>94268772
The target demographic that would want male options already have slim pickings as it is and would grasp at anything. But suit yourself, just include an option that give more points or an extra feature for going solo/not choosing anyone. If the CYOA relies solely on choosing waifus then I'm just not your target and that's fine. I don't care for waifu pickers anyway.
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>>94266671
Aromage
Tok
TroyX
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>>94268159
>anime girls with animal ears
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>>94268798
>More points
There are no points.

>Going solo
Ecclesiastes is about you being a Marshal Lord. There is no going solo since you lead what is basically an Army-State.

>Choosing waifus
The waifus are more of your Subordinates. They look up to you as their Senior and Lord in killing Beasts and being one of the strongest humans in the modern era.

The Subordinates are basically officers of your Marshal Forces chosen by your Vice Lord/Commander to be your escorts and JRPG party members. You in-universe have enough strength to kill divinity alone, but even divinity can be killed if jumped by an endless number of normal people with weapons and just beat down.
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>>94268563
How did you make your OC announcement looks like that???
Are you a sorceoror?
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>>94268861
It sounds interesting but what is the lore reason for them being all female? Do men not exist or are they the weaker sex that takes care of the home and children instead? Or are the females of this universe rebelling against men?
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>>94268882
>ting but what is the lore reason for them being all female?
There is no real lore for it, I just couldn't find enough images. I have male NPC quest givers in the CYOA and even NPC male Marshal Forces officer that interacts with you in specific subsection.

But enough images for what I want to use. Even a decent chunk of the quest givers are female.
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>>94268159
>Ugly as shit
Is it tho?
Most indie games are disgusting low-effort pixelated crap.
So stuff catches my attention when it's something different.
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>>94268159
There's something Escheresque about her legs.
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>>94268159
I know it might not look great now, but it's miles ahead where it was last year. I'm doing my best to improve it. We should all strive to do our best and never give up.
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>>94268926
I find that hard to believe unless you just don't know where to look but I will leave it at that. Magi Case came off as pretty feminist before and I thought you may have gone that angle again but I see that's not the case. If there's a lore reason, I'll bite but if not then it's just not for me and that's fine.
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>>94268977
>I find that hard to believe unless you just don't know where to look but I will leave it at that
I'm using very specific art for characters in the CYOA. Not just grab anything from the booru and slap it on like the Magi Case, all the art has to be transparent characters too. So I do know where to look. Thank you.

>Magi Case came off feminist
Only a woman would think that. Women in MC are very subordinate to men including the strongest mage.
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>>94268848
Trash is the place for gays, not the main thread.
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>>94269090
anime boys with animal ears are gross too, even moreso
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>>94268944
You oneesanman?
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>>94269113
I pity you for having such shit taste, honestly. A horrible fate.
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>>94269061
>Women and children are considered disposable and that's why they were used as sacrifices
>End up being the most powerful mages as a result and rule this world
>Explores the cruelties of man through each of them and the abuse they had to endure

You wrote a tragic tale of women rising to power despite misogyny. And did you mean submissive instead of subordinate?Because unless you left something out, these powerful women are infact rulers over everyone.
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>>94268872
>Are you a sorceoror?

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>>94269149
so that's the taste of physicsfags...
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>>94269181
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>>94268848
animal ears are cute
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>>94269191
A new face for my collection...
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>>94269382
your welcome tok
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>>94269164
And yet in the end they lose to my cock.
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>>94269406
I already have this face.
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>>94269421
i know aro
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>>94269427
I already have this face.
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>>94269450
you said it last time tok
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>>94269467
>>94269421
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>>94269555
>>94269427
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>>94269168
Alright, played it. The model's art style looks pretty enough I guess? There's not much else to say at this stage.
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Yandere cyoas?
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>>94268290
Matter and energy are the same thing at different concentrations. Likewise distance (space) and time are the same thing in different directions.
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>>94268340
Which one of us?
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>>94269566
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>>94265615
I never felt that the 5 option really offered more than the 3 option did as that was just some othe anon's mod but I can add it. <shrug.gif>. I'll add the better formatted one someone did.

I thought I had my computer under the unfinished cyoas section. I'll recheck and see about uploading it. I never did get around to reuploading every wip when I had to remove them due to space constraints. Some of them have been finished and I'd really need to sort that out which is a nightmare in itself and I just don't have the time or the energy to do that. 2024 has been probably the worst year of my life so far and I doubt it'll get better any time soon.
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>>94266391
Your very presence shits up this general, which used to be good, now it's pretty crappy due to image shitposters like yourself who are far more prolific than they were in the past and if they got prolific in the past we could get them perma-banned. Chinamoot doesn't seem to care about that though.
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>>94267675
>What in the fuck is their problem?
If I had to guess, the Yaga clan are based on the femdom/BDSM witches of Anne Bishop's Black Jewels series. Some very, very messed up magic users in that setting.
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>>94268358
but physicsschizoanon, free will exists even though its not made up of anything
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>>94269837
There are a bunch
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>>94273490
i feel bad for all of them. i would spend time with all of them except emilia because i don't want my memory tampered with. if she couldn't tamper with my memory then i would spend time with her too.
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>>94270812
You're a cornerstone of the ecosystem. Best wishes.
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>>94273490
Is there anyway to avoid bloodshed here or do you have to let them kill each other?
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>>94274562
You could restrain/imprison them, or Emilia could wipe the others' memories of you if she gets a good opportunity.
Personally I'd just run away with Emilia to a far-off land and let the other 4 duke it out. Emilia's magic is perfect for hiding among people with a fake backstory.



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