koma edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-26-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-scheduleMetagame Mentor: The Scariest Standard Strategies in Duskmourn:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-scariest-standard-strategies-in-duskmourn>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>Previously:>>94267631>TQnow that standard is basically extended 2.0, should they create another format to take its place?
>>94271895>TQThey need to create another game at this point
imagine if force of will hadn't died...
>>94271959>read from left to right and top to bottom>puts the instructions on the top rightYou're as dumb as this infographic.
Universes Beyond is gonna fucking kill Standard. What were they honestly thinking? No one had an issue with it being for a different format.
>>94271959>MTG pushes its flavor and theming to the extremeThis is some peak boomer cope lmao
>>94271895Koma looks like a great battlecruiser, but you don't really see that kind of gameplay in MtG anymore. Maybe low-power Commander games
>>94271959Jarvis, please add pop culture references.
>>94271959What genre trope does Tragic Slip embody?
>>94271999it's gonna kill standard in paperit will help to monetize standard on Arena though
EEHH HOO HOOHAA HAAHEE HEEHEH HEHHERES STANDARD
faction slop is le badaethershit is an easy skip
>>94271959You're going to have to explain how cards like bog initiate, krosan drover, or fatespinner are creating a unique identity, because those look like a regular fantasy witch, elf, and oracle. OG Jace is just a 13 year old nerd's donut steel with psionic abilities.
>>94272048FINALLY, EQUITY
>>94272069The whole color pie is faction slop.
If you aren’t selling your entire collection to cardkingdom in the next 6 months I have bad news
I'm not caught up on the Aetherdrift news. Who's this guy supposed to be? I'm assuming some dude from Kamigawa based on the bike
>>94272135>he didn't sell years agoNowadays I just beat up newbies on Arena to drive them out of the game.
>>94271895>now that standard is basically extended 2.0, should they create another format to take its place?What would that look like? Just the 4-5 most recent sets? or just reverting to the old rotation schedule?
>>94271999>What were they honestly thinking?I completely disagree with their reasoning but they have explained it pretty clearly:>make UB product >it brings massive amounts of money compared to the shitty sets of late>biggest complain from people who buy that product is that they're funneled into modern or commander >solution: make UB standard legal what I think it's going to happen is, UB players are going to realize that playing standard sucks just as much as if they were playing modern or commander, it's not a format problem, it's a card design problemonce sales reflect that realization, the game will either die, or go back to making mtg sets again
>>94272166>What would that look like? Just the 4-5 most recent sets?yeah that + no UB sets
>>9427202913 being an unlucky number
>>94272087>>94272029>>94272002>>94271977>>94272018dont understand why every post on this website needs to be some post ironic troll
>>94271999>release UB cards straight to commander>commander players slurp it up because they have no regard for the soul of the game>wotc: "ok, that went well">release UB set straight to modern>modern players are spineless faggots who are too deeply invested to bail at this point (sunk cost fallacy), so they too slurp it up>wotc: "oh wow these have been great! Ok lets ship it!"They are literally just retarded and don't understand why their previous products have succeeded. Spiderman is not going to get Normie Nathan to buy into a full standard deck any more than it inspired him to buy into a full modern deck. Commander decks were full precons, which were a good starting point for noobs, and the singleton format is inherently easier to justify an increasing investment over time.These market pressures do not exist for standard and are not going to get the results wotc thinks they will. The money number will still trend upwards, and they'll misattribute that upward trend to this recent decision, because as they've demonstrated with Rat Fuck Nosewater's public statements, they are too retarded to analyze the data they're collecting in any useful way.
>>94272158That's Chandra. Why she's on a clearly Kamigawa bike instead of a Kaladesh thing is weird, but hey.
>>94271999>What were they honestly thinking?"finna makes aragorn black"
>>94272045How, unless every other set is broken you'll be able to make a good Foundations deck and never spend wildcards again.
>>94272190Who's trolling?
>>94272195>any more than it inspired him to buy into a full modern deckTo clarify, this was explicitly stated as a reason for shipping to Standard instead of just Modern, like they had been. The monetary barrier to entry was too high for normies.They somehow overlooked the fact that Standard is also a high monetary barrier to entry for someone who has not already established a history of justifying spending hundreds of dollars on cardboard.
>>94272190good question for someone without a brain good job
>>94272135>>94272160The time to sell for peak profit was the first week after the pandemic ended.
Keep the faith sisters, the worst is yet to come
>>94272198>That's ChandraLooks more like a dude who stole her goggles, but I don't know why I expect anything out of WotC anymore.
>>94272166That's what Standard is gonna be now. They said Foundations stays until 2030 but everything else will be rotating every January now.
aethershit is a bad set and i will not buy it or play with it
>>94272244Chandra has one of the least consistent designs of anybody. Red hair + fire + goggles is basically all she 'has', and even the fire's not always there.
>>94272190Why would anyone reply to a ironic troll chart with a serious post?
>>94272255If OTJ or Duskmourn is any consideration Aetherdrift will have middling-to-okay flavour but be mechanically really good.
>>94272257I can think of at least two things that would make Chandra more distinctive as Chandra when viewed from the side
>>94272261you are very funny. congratulations on making a post. a great achievement for someone with the brain of a fucking moron
>>94272274all mtg girls should have big boobies and wide hips
>>94272251>>94272255>>94272257all me btw
>>94272190I just find it entertaining how his infographic completely skips over the blatant IP dick riding already flirting with the idea of crossovers 20 years ago.
>>94272285You're not wrong. But it's especially glaring on that Chandra art when she's pretty much always had boob plate. Instead here she looks more like an skinny guy wearing football pads.
>>94272320damn... she really does look like that
>>94272313i find it entertaining how your mother keeps begging me to fuck her
>>94272276>>94272341Kek, not even mad.
Will of the People {3WR}SorcerySecret Council - Each player secretly votes Trump or Kamala, then those votes are revealed. If Trump gets more votes, shuffle each non-white creature into its owner's library. If Kamala gets more votes, untap all creatures and gain control of them until end of turn. They gain haste until end of turn.
>>94272313Sporadic references aren't crossovers
>>94271959i dont get why you keep posting this its kinda cool but also a bit flawed and im not sure if its something so revolutionary it needs to be in every thread. but i will give you credit that its something kinda creative and mtg general needs something like that pretty bad even if just to give us something to talk about besides "universe beyond bad" "standard bad" "red aggro bad"
>>94272190Maybe you should go back to plebbit then lil bro
>>94271959One of the dumbest infographics ever made. At least it was made as a joke a->>94272190Wait, you're serious? yeah, I prefer sun tzu, Shakespeare and knockoff iron man see >>94272018or this knock-off infinity gauntlet >>94272313My favorite IN UNIVERSE character: aladdin. No UB stuff at all >inb4 everyone hated Arabian nights, this doesn't count, those old cards referencing ali baba, Dong zuo were somehow alright anyway... because they just are, OKAY? lol, lmao even
>>94272313i think its a bit false to say that a few references per set in the old times is the same as all the newest sets being entirely based on a pop culture reference. albeit yes there have been references all throughout mtg history
>>94272401i dont know what reddit is and like i said before i have no idea what a troon is either so please stop talking about it i dont care i will continue to post on this 4chan website as i am free to do so no matter how much you cry about it
>>94272408The second card in the infographic is Aladdin's Lamp. What are you even trying to say?
>>94272392>>94272411Top tier ESL input.
>>94272427Do you know what Global Rule 2 is though
>>94272411I prefer to have the real thing instead of the cheap pirated version from a flea market. You're accustomed to your grandma always gifting you those weird Gameboys from China with 1000 games on it as a Christmas gift, normal people had the real thing
>>94272453dont care and neither does anyone else besides you
>>94272432Yeah, that's why it's clearly a troll image and some retard in this thread thinks it's serious
>>94271959Based
>>94272465sorry i have no idea what the fuck youre trying to get at
>>94272487Me neither, kill yourself. Imagine trying to defend mtg with Aladdin's lamp.
>>94272475It's there for a reason
>>94272313>>94272408Retards
>>94272494its kinda rude to tell someone to kill themdselves apologize NOW!
Ban mana crypt in vintage
>>94272512vintage fucking blows
Straight Bolas
>>94272531hell ya straight bolas
>>94272486>>94272507
Fourty (40) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
>>94272538based on what?
>>94272494You will have your teeth smashed in with a ball peen hammer
I will be using your tiers
>>94272541no please be nice to him
Everything sucks and no one is happy.
Reminder that if your meme gets positive feedback you are serious, if it gets negative feedback you were le trolling all along.
I will continue playing Pioneer, but I will not play with, and against UB cards.
>>94271959This is pretty accurate, but I still like UB because I'm a normalfaggot slave
>>94272548im happy
>>94272512>>94272531>>94272538>>94272543what the fuck is happening? are we bizarro /edhg/?
>>94272554actually if i like it its serious and if i dont like it its retarded amd a troll
>>94272547He will have his finger nails pulled out with needle nose pliers
flashflying
>>94272583arent you supposed to be talking about magic the gathering?
Unban Mana Crypt
>>94272593Sorry soijak, I'll be good now
draw cardput land onto the battlefield
>>94272612sorry i dont know what a soijak is but id appreciate it if you never mention it in my presence again. thank you for being good though
Aladdin was fine but we needed Jasmine
If this is somebodies favorite card, what would you say about that person?
>>94272635they are probably an okay person
create a food tokentarget artifact or creature loses all abilities and becomes a green elk creature with base power and toughness 3/3
>>94271959I like how its coming alongGj anon
Where can I watch some good online Premodern matches, /tg/?I don't care about any other formats.
>>94272408Yeah, Arabian Nights and Portal: Three Kingdoms were wildly successful sets that were deeply influential to the game. They're definitely not dusty old relics that only really come up when someone wants to point and say "SEE UNIVERSES BEYOND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A THING!"Pay no mind to the 20 year gap between PTK and the actual introduction of Universes beyond.
>>94272195>release UB cards straight to commander>commander players slurp it upThat didnt even happen
>>94272313This is strictly a whataboutism because its not even a trend its a few one off examples scattered through magics history
>the 1000 dollar format is too much for UB newfags to buy into>shepherd them into the 400 dollar formatLoTR sold like bananas but these guys are insane if they think Spiderman is a big enough outside draw that they'll get spidermanfags to buy $350 dollars of not-Spiderman cards to play a playset of Peter Parker, Photographer.
>>94272680>>94272706do not even respond to people who are trolling
>>94271959This picture is accurate. I draw the line at paying for an IP in order to add it to the game. Older sets referencing real life things is acceptable because the game back then was modled off of real world stories, people, and events. They stopped name dropping real world things when Magic gained an identity of its own.>but the references Those are bad for the game in the same way that garbage flavor text is bad for the game, but having a card that resembles something from pop culture is not the same thing as paying another company money to put their names and images in the game.
>>94272688Nah it happened and happened pretty well for them. At least the Warhammer and Fallout ones did, Dr Who did less well but that's because Dr Who in 2024 is niche as fuck.
>>94272712Same but about you
>>94272706You don't understand anon. If it occurred at any point in MtG's past, it means you can't complain about it now. You can't complain about references to other franchises because of Arabian Nights.You can't complain about bad art because they've hired cheap artists in the past. You can't complain about power creep because of the Power 9.The new product is flawless so consume new product!
>>94272727explain what i did wrong or how im trolling in any way
>>94272725Ive literally never seen a fallout card in person desu i highly doubt the sales were goodI have seen some dr who slopLotr is obviously a different beast due to matching tone and the one ring hypeI am convinced pic related is purely gaslighting based on the sentiment of the 6 lgs I visit in 4 states
>>94272761>That's why you have to play against itThe fucking audacity of this comment.
>>94272736You can complain about those things, but what does that have to do with praising those old things? You might say "old good, new bad", I'm saying "old bad, new worse". I'm (mostly) in agreement with the bottom half of the chart, it's the top half that's retarded.
>>94272736fpbp
>>94272313>>94272737This post is so wrong, it can only be described as trolling Its a reference, you know it and you are acting like its anything else
>>94272780that is not me at all i dont know why you think it is
>>94272775You know that chart is a work in progress and this well meaning autist that spams it in every thread is more than happy to change it due to feedbackMaybe try to be constructive instead of an unhinged retard
>>94272680>>94272706>>94272736>Yeah the game literally started by copying other works but that was decades ago so it doesn't matter>It's not even a trend it merely had been happening consistently since the beginning until it turned into actual crossovers>I'm want to be a whiny little bitch even though I don't play the game btw
>>94272775this person is right>>94272801you dont have to be so aggressive all the tim just cause your on le epic 4chan
>>94272775I'm not sure where you're seeing 'praise'. The most positive things that image says about MtG is that there was a period where it created its own identity.That's an extremely low bar.
>>94272807trvth nvke
>>94272801Then answer >>94272087 instead of deflecting by calling it trolling. Magic's lore has always been slop, at least D&D can make the claim it helped to pioneer the modern fantasy genre by expanding on Tolkien. Magic's lore has had little to no impact outside of the game itself, it's no wonder that the execs decided to toss it.
>>94272833>>94272820>>94272807>>94272801all me by the way
>>94272810your mom doesn't need to suck my cock so aggressively either but she still does it
>>94272780Imagine if pokemon had those references
>>94272886>imagine if Pokemon was as valueless as MTGCan't imagine, honestly.
>>94271999who cares about standardthe whole appeal on pioneer was that it was supposed to be safe form novelty setsGOD FUCKING DAMNIT
>>94272980loot merchandise will increase magic's profitability
>>94272886It would be a different game for sure but would a pikachu with the beatitudes as flavor text be as bad as straight up dropping currently licensed IPs into magic probablyBut magic isnt pokemon and I am grateful for that fact
>>94272998This A year ago I was able to sell my edh decks to basically buy into all of the t1 and 2 pioneer decksImagine my shock when both formats dies within a few weeks of eachotherI was actually having a really good time in pioneer But hey premodern looks fun, hopefully I can do the switcheroo to that format before alluren is a 100 card
>>94272845Well one of those is meAnd I am not youAt least I dont think were the same personFurther investigation is needed
>>94273094i wish i had the option to play niche formats like premodern but i'm from a small country and we barely have 16 people at the pioneer nightsmy lgs (which is the only in the city) sees most players in pauper nights (because its the cheapest format and living in third world sucks)
Play Premodern.
>>94272980It'd be pretty crazy if mtg was trying to position itself in the exact market with #1 and a game including 3 of the top 7. Nobody would be dumb enough to try and leave their established niche to do that, right?
>>94273138I have the added bonus of being wealthy and a touch charismaticI single handedly kept pioneer alive in my area and I have convinced half a dozen people to play premodern with me on a regular basis Im in talks with the lgs to have a night open for it, sometimes you just gotta ask
you know maybe this new era of mtg isnt so bad
>>94273162I'm glad it's working out for you, sincerely, but that doesn't mean it can last elsewhere. Netrunner still has a few groups going, being propped up by the efforts of people like you, but it doesn't mean it's healthy as a whole.
>>94273154I have a real fear that scalpers are going to start picking up RL premodern cards with fervor
>>94273177Man the saddest day for me is when wotc yoinked the IP from FFGNo way in hell im playing the fan made version but even through asset spam I loved that fucking game
>>94273191For me, it's Warhammer ConquestFFG is a shell of its former self now, pumping out slop for Asmodee. Shame.
>>94273182>the RL ultimately ends up killing magic after allNice
>>94272736>You can't complain about references to other franchises because of Arabian Nights.>He thinks it only happened in Arabian nightsLmao, embarrassing post
>>94273182It's going to happen
>>94273199Dude my friend bought a lot off of ebay of that game when it was cancelled That shit is SERIOUSLY fun
>>94272807Don't mind him, he's retarded
>>94273199I actually really like Arkham Horror the card gameI am consistently impressed with how they toy with their mechanics
>>94272807>but that was decades ago so it doesn't matterThat's not even true. They kept doing it all the time throughout mtg's history, so yeah, crying about UB and not crying about all those other instances makes you a retarded secondary who doesn't even play mtg. That's all.
>>94273182The Premodern community will either accept proxies or die.
>>94273236I wouldnt count on the formerI saw a group that wouldnt even allow new border reprints (based)
>>94273182This won't do anything. Premodern is explicitly proxy friendly and rejects the idea of artifical scarcity on the basis of being 40+ year old men who just want to play a fantasy card game.
>>94273205>at any point in MtG's PastLmao, embarrassing lack of reading comprehension.
>>94272029>>94272189>>94272190So orcs and elves are part of Magic creating its own identity, but the number 13 being unlucky is genre tropes?
>>94272624So you actually wanted UB from the start with some Disney slop, because jasmine never appeared in the original tale about Aladdin. Embarrassingly pathetic, but at least the truth comes out now>old UB slop good, new ub slop bad, because...?
>>94273169Yu-Gi-Oh art
>>94273162honestly at this point i'm gonna just make a proxy play box from my favorite standard decks back when i first got into magic and play like any other board game
>>94273272Sure, you will. What will wotc ever do without some retard stopping to make proxies? Oh no, all the nonexistent never lost revenue.
>>94272624>Princess Jasmine>UUUUU>when Princess Jasmine enters, if you control a Magic Carpet creature and a Genie creature you win the game
>>94273282Based Disney characters
>>94273283holy kek
>>94273270Yugioh art is generally better than modern Magic art. Even the creatures that are overdesigned slop still have a middle school cool factor and adhere strictly to archetype design themes. The one area that Magic dominates is in art depicting places.
>>94273283Signpost uncommon
premodern is too small for anyone to care lolthe format is only played in europe if you go by top8 listings.
>>94273303Casual commander is played by around 0 people all around the world if you go by top 8 tournament results, because nobody keeps track of those games and nobody plays casual tournaments. Huh, so much for your worthless stats.
>>94273283
>>94273318premodern is a competitive format. commander was designed to be casual from the get go.
>>94272680He already predicted your smoothbrained post and made fun of it or did you just chose to ignore what he wrote after >inb4Lmao, he read you like a book
>>94272810>>94272801>>94272654>>94271959All me by the way
>>94272680I don't get why people forget that Portal wasn't even legal to be played in Magic until 2004. Before that it was treated as its own game (no seriously, look up all the rules differences). If it wasn't for EDH, Portal 3k would be a trivia piece.
273385Stop replying to yourself already.It's obvious and pathetic
>>94272610Go back to your edh general, you ritualposting faggot
>>94272688Nigger are you retarded or what
>>94272710Exactly >>94272222 I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized this
>>94272222are we still calling it cardboard?if so why?
>>94273512CardSTOCK maybe is more accurate I guess>if so, why?To highlight the inherent worthlessness of the physical items outside of the artificial price inflation of manufactured scarcity
>>94273524cardboard implies a degree of permanence or endurance which magic the gathering no longer has, if it ever did
>>94272012the retards in /edhg/ are freaking out over this card because it has ward, god forbid a 7 mana creature survive for more than a single turnand even then it's still aggresively mediocre compared to other 7 mana creatures
>>94273557It's one guy. Every deck that really cares about killing creatures can butcher a field of indestructible hexproof attackers. It also gets turned off by Spore Frog.
One of these days they'll print a copy spell that two-card infinites with Ral.This one is pretty close.
>>94272670>>94272670>>94272670Hello? Anyone?
>tfw no d&t gf
>>94271959As the guy who made the first few drafts what people are missing is that the chart is meant to point out Trends in MTG and how it went from being all references, to building tis own identity and having the game in general be about that identity, to then giving up that identity for the sake of drawing in fans of other properties and pop-cultural references, and how they have basically given up on the internal setting which was based upon taking the mechanical aspects of the color pie and putting a face to them.A few cards which are references across the years, most of which are just the artist having fun, is different from "Cowboy Catchphrase, the Card".And please note that its not meant be be a standalone thing to post, but an infographic when someone is trying to make a point to give context to the point they are making.Also I stopped working on it because after a full day of work since feedback died out , another anon with way more skill in paint made a much cleaner version of it after I posted my tentative final draft so I let him take over and I don't know if he is still updating it.>>94273248Stuff like Orcs, Goblins, and Elves are universal tropes that were grandfathered in when MTG was just meant to be a D&D adjacent filler activity (Legends was literally D&D PCs retroactively placed in Dominaria) but in turn have been integrated into the game. Lorwyn is a good example of taking Elves and doing cool shit with them.You really need to start looking at how the game changes from Fallen Empires forward. Antiquities is the start of MTG lore as we know it, but at the time was like the others a one off set and meant to be an entirely self contained story. FEM is when MTG really starts doing its own thing with stuff like Homarids and Thrulls and eventually will start doing things like Slivers dwon the road.
>>94273819FEM is also (imo) one of the best uses of flavor text in the game's entire history. The dry descriptions from the history books juxtaposed against the direct quotes from the characters living the fall makes the story seem like a grim, realistic fact. Even with bits of comedy relief, I always felt there was a bitter inevitability to it when reading the cards as a kid. Really underrated set.
>>94272222I think the main issue is not even money, you have no chance of building a proper deck if your only exposure to the game was buying a display of spiderman boosters.>which cards should I buy?>which deck uses my spiderman cards and are strong?normies who like marvel faggotry have the attention span of a minute, if they can't figure out what to buy in that time they will lose interest
>>94273819>Lorwyn is a good example of taking Elves and doing cool shit with themThey're directly ripped from Celtic mythology, as is most of Lorwyn. At best you could say they mixed in some aspects of Tolkien elves. A decent chunk of the plane is Arabian Nights level of references.
>>94272886Pokemon's constant references are Kaiju movies, the Alien movies, and modern folklore.
>>94273819So, between Triskaidekaphobia, Tragic Slip, Tree of Perdition, Triskaidekaphile, and the "Thirteenlands" from Duskmourn, hasn't 13 being a special number been integrated into Magic lore?
>>94273962Anon the gap between the Sídhe as an otherworldly force and the fiercely interlocked with the plane and its other peoples Lorwyn Elves and not the same. If you wanted to make that argument about the Fairies in Lorwyn then you would have a stronger stance. Also the existence of Changelings, Flamekin, Thoughtweft for the Kithkin, and the Elementals, plus the entire effect of the Great Aurora on all those involved.The Seers Parables are a fantastic piece of poetic worldbuilding almost lost to time thanks to Wizards server transferhttps://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-storyline/335515-the-seers-parablesThat is not to say those outside references don't exist but that they are used for magic to explore itself instead of just being the references.
>>94273557>the retards in /edhg/ are freaking out over this cardNo they're not
>>94273660Heavy Play
>>9427403513 being a special number in the game is precisely the retarded sort of theft from our reality that should be condemned.Nobody has a problem with detectives existing, they have a problem with the fact that the detective is inexplicably linked to hats, which has been drilled in so hard to the point an elemental is wearing a hat; a sphinx is wearing a hat. The UFO is shaped exactly like a UFO from our world's fiction.13 mattering in Magic is fucking stupid; and it's especially stupid printing it on a few cards without explaining why the number has meaning in the setting. You can't explain why 13 matters on Innistrad because Wizards didn't fucking explain it.
>>94274043You could say that about any other modern plane. MKM introduced the RAMI, a guide for the guildless. Despite the guildless making a large percentage of the population they are constantly oppressed and don't have the same benefits as those in the guilds. The story about MKM was about disrupting the guilds to make Ravnica a plane focused on the the individual rather than the guilds.Azorius let the RAMI exist and lend help do to being overwhelmed with the aftermath of the Phyrexian invasion.The Boros had most of of its members die during the invasion so they got help from the RAMI while they build up their numbers.Dimir had their guild leader work as a low level detective to make everyone believe the Dimir has fallen while Lazav spreads disinformation.Th Golgari is in schism between the repentant and those who wish to become the monsters everyone makes them out be.The Simic send out free detectives to build up their reputation with the public due to them and the Golgari accepting phyrexia's influence.The Selesnya's guld leaders chose to start the plot MKM due wanting the Guilds influence to leave Ravnica since Ravnica isn't about the guild but about its people.The focusing on detectives would lead Ravnica from being a plane ruled by gang violence of the guildless into one ruled by law and due process for everyone.
>>94273557>bad players are retardedyou don't say
>>94274127All detectives wore hats for drafting reasons. People complained that couldn't tell an ally cleric from a regular cleric. 13 is just an arbitrary number they chose because they associated it unluckiness and now all cards the reference horror have it for the same reason crabs are associated with milling.
>>94274035For me it has to do with having a strong resonance with the color pie and in this case the color Black, not only as a mechanical or ideological level, but in keeping with stylistic continuity. I wasn't the one who added tragic slip to the chart but I can see both sides of the argument.>>94274127To be fair Wizards never explained most of OG Innistrad beyond the Plansewalkers Guide, which is again a causality of the mid 2010s server transfer.>>94274149The RAMI is a vulguar interjection of Detective Tropes into magic because of their heavy use of outside pop-cultural resonance for their structure.If the RAMI1. Looked like actual Ravnicans or in a wholly original plane were more based around the stylistic and aesthetic markers MTG developed for itself (Capenna is again a vulgar implementation for instance).2.Were trying to use detective fiction to display the unique personalities and affects associated with the Color Pie through that lens instead of trying to use MTG as a universal format to shove in as many detective tropes and references as possible Than I would be fine with it and would of welcomed it as an interesting forward movement for Ravnica.>>94274167I will go to bat for the crabs being mill, its a distinctively magic only thing and exists as a positive development, especially because of the association between Blue, Crabs, and MillingI don't hate new things, nor do I just want 8th-Lorwyn forever, but MTG did develop its own self as a unique universe and I do feel that throwing that away for the sake The Reference is a negative.A Blue Mage should be a Blue Mage regardless of Plane (honesty one of the big ones which has stayed the most consistent even with more and more of its concept being wiped away) but that doesn't mean Blue can't expand its domain within reason.
>nor do I just want 8th-Lorwyn foreverWhy the fuck would you not want thisThe only valid answer is that you're a vintagefag
>>94274043>changelingsCopied straight from folklore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changeling>flamekin, elementalsWotC sure as fuck didn't come up with the idea of elementals, plenty of cultures practiced animism.>thoughtweftI'll give you that one, making the hobbits into a pseudo hive mind was a new one.>great auroraA bastardization of Seelie/Unseelie courts and the idea that they're actually related to the seasons. I think the Dresden Files popularized the idea, right around the time they would've been coming up with Lorwyn.>faeriesThey split up aspects of the sidhe and gave them to various tribes, yes. It's a big list that includes changelings, merrow, puca, selkie, and others. Recognize those names? They also took the name boggart from generic spirits and just gave it to the goblins. Ouphes are literally just ouphes. They called it a nucklavee instead of a nuckelavee. The list goes on. Am I supposed to congratulate them for not copying as much as they could've? When they mash together tropes to make Aztecs riding dinosaurs, you want me to boo, but when they mash together tropes to sprinkle some Tolkien into fae, you want me to cheer? You can fuck right off with that.
>>94271959How are Karn's Temporal Sundering or Beamsplitter Mage pop culture references?
>>94273962Here are the Shadowmoor goblins. Here are what they are referencing.Hobgoblins are English household spirits that clean the house while the family sleeps. "Master Dobbs has been helping you" is an expression that refers to a Dobby a type hobgoblin.Fachans were Scottish giant with a single eye, an arm coming from their chest and a single leg. They had a tuft of hair on their head that was unbendable.Redcaps are goblins of the Anglo-Scottish border. They inhabit castles in the border where evil acts were committed. They dye their caps in blood.Spriggan are Cornish fairies that look like old men with large heads. They are small but have giant strength due to being ghost of giants or can grow huge.
This guy is making food out of cats, isn't he?
>>94274291It appears he is sacrificing food to attract a cat.
>>94274206I think you're correct about the crab thing being associated with mill as being a good thing - giving identity to the tribe.The nitpick is that it wasn't done on purpose. Hedron Crab being a crab was probably a random choice and the art being cute and adorable attracted community attention that Wizards ran with it. Gilded Drake and Chromeshell Crab swapped - nobody gave a shit back then about what creatures did other than that Drakes had Flying. And so what Hedron Crab did should have been to inspire this stupid fucking company to care about creature identity but they didn't because we now have dogs. And I felt like the absence of dogs in the game in the past was because people either didn't want to make the game more modern or someone understood that dogs are a man-made creation and dogs =/= wolves. But now, dogs do everything, they flicker, they gravedigger, they gain life, they get counters, they give counters - it's just shit to sell cards; fuck if it makes sense same with the Drake/Crab. You look at the Special Set card The Crab Queen - it just fetches random crabs, it doesn't even fetch mill crabs.That's the problem with Wizards, everything good is an accident; everything bad (shit art direction, not explaining shit, stealing modern tropes) is done on purpose. This UB shit is going to offend people and they are doing it on purpose. Crabs milling - that shit hurts nobody and it was mostly an accident.
I don't have a huge problem with Magic using generic nerd fantasy (i.e. Tolkien + the more well-known folklore stuff), but on a scale of Universes Beyond to "burn it all down and only do originals" I definitely know which side I'm closer to.
Destiny Manager 4UUCreature - SphinxRareThis spell can't be counteredFlyingWhen this enters, look at the top five cards of your library and separate them into one face-down pile and one face-up pile. An opponent chooses one of the piles. Put the chosen pile into your hand and the other into your graveyard.5/5
>>94274364You don't have that binary choice. You're going to get Universes Beyond owning 25-50% of mainstream releases forever.The only debate people should have been having since Walking Dead is appropriate properties to license. And given that we've already opened Pandora's Box to shit like Ghostbusters and Spongebob, I'm going to have to insist on the McDonalds Secret Lair. If I don't get a Big Mac or french fries food token before stupid like like the next Spongebob, Wizards is fucking up. I'm completely seriously only a retard would want Spongebob over McDonalds.
>>94274340And where is he getting that food? He's obviously an apothecary, and he's feeding that cat something out of a vial, not a scrap of meat.
>>94274412SpongeBob has a fungus named after him.
>>94274233>>94274256While I see your point its also 1am where I'm at so, I will be review Lorwyn and Shadowmoor and back in the thread tomorrow with a fully fleshed out response.For now all I will say is that the big things I'm looking for in regards to this conversation as I have the entire time are.>Does it feel like its in cultural continuity with MTG as it had developed up top that point.>Is MTG being primarily used as a vehicle to show the audience the tropes and genre material or are the Genre and tropes being used as a way to reflect the internal MTG cultivated by years of self referential design and unique creations I'E how much does Swirling Spriggan, in being a Spriggan, derive itself from MTG and how much does it derive itself from Celtic Folklore, from both in it being a Goblin and in it being a G/UG creature. And then comparing that to say Duskmorn.
>>94274030>the Alien movieswat
>>94274256It feels like total shit that that much of Lorwyn was stolen as well. I don't even want to know if the Great Aurora was a novel idea but I'll keep telling myself that because it's interesting inverting the world as a natural phenomenon.
>>94274256Boggarts are English monsters often used as a generic boogeyman for anything scary.
>>94274512It's canon.
>>94274233Love Lorwyn to death but yeah it's no different than any of the other theme parks, except Celtic mythology is less known than Greek or Egyptian so people feel it's more original.
>>94274566Cinders?>Celtic mythology is less knownthis is complete and utter bullshit
>>94274412>You're going to get Universes Beyond owning 25-50% of mainstream releases forever.You wish, in 2~3 years UB will be 60% of releases, then 75 and so on
>>94274512These Pokemon were based on the Alien series.Gligar is based on a facehugger and its name is a corruption of Giger. In the anime it constantly hugged the face faces of people (not sexual)Poipole's head shape was inspired by Giger's Aliens.
>>94272158not the fucking Akira slide...
>>94274570>this is complete and utter bullshitThere are no fucking books on Celtic mythology in North American school libraries the kids are all reading Greek and Norse myth. By the same note there are no Asian myth books either. The Japanese don't have Celtic shit either it's all local and they study English and Russian literature.It's an objective fact Celtic myth is less known. And before you fucking mention Asterix I assure you nobody fucking associates that property with the Celts or their mythology.When you say "Celts" in any part of the world you're lucky if they know the football team. Go fucking travel.
>>94271895Koma should have been 3GGRR; nothing blue about OP card.>TQHow about a format with minimal FIRE? I can't keep track of each creature have 3+ abilities and being a one-card combo.
>>94274584I hate this frame so much
>>94271916another format you say? can do!
>>94274566They put the same amount of references in Bloomburrow as they did in Duskmourn yet people didn't complained as much because they don't know about the animal fantasy genre.
>>94274584It could be mono-blue if they removed the combat damage ability.
>>94274127>retarded sort of theft from our reality that should be condemnedAre you saying that a card game should have a highly intricate lore and belief system on par with lotr, that should somehow remain consistent over decades with multiple different writers and somehow be free of any unconscious involvement of the writers cultural norms?This is peak 'back in my day'. It's one thing to say there's too much outside IP going on, or that magic is straying from its' core fantasy genre but bitching about 13 is dumb.
>>94274579oh i thought it was a more direct reference they've been doing that since gen 1 like kadabra was based on yuri geller who actually sued them and they avoid using the pokemon in promotional material until a while ago when he dropped the charges
>>94274584That's any flavour of the followingPremodernMiddle SchoolOld SchoolClassic LegacyPre Innistrad LegacyPre WAR LegacyBlock constructedetc..The problem is that none of these are formats where you can just walk into a store on the weekend and play, unless you happen to live in one of the areas of the world where a format like this is popular for some reason. I think they might be in some part of Italy and maybe Barcelona, Spain? I'm not sure. The point being that you have to seek out these players via online community run MTGO/Webcam leagues. It's doable, but requires more effort than casual FNM style play.Wizards will never create a format devoid of supplemental, lore breaking sets because it would be an implicit admission that they screwed up, which would only be backed up by such a format achiving greater numbers than formats allowing Spider Man to fight against the Hamburgler.
>>94272264>OTJ>mechanically really good>Duskmourn>mechanically really gooddo you even know what you're writing?
>>94272565Shitpost floodgates have been opened because el americanos have woken upThis has always happened even back when this thread was called /mmg/
>>94274570Nah, the other guy already explained but few are reading about Celtic mythology and there isn't exactly abundance of media exploring it, the topic is just very obscure to most people. They usually have a vague notion about faeries based on Disney and that's it, if you ask them who were the Tuatha Dé Danann or the Aos Sí no one will have an answer.
any fun Arena decks?
>>94274724>Tuatha Dé Danann>Aos SíWHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER
>>94274742It's like a handicapped mile but for yuros and everyone else apparently.
Freedom hours are the best
>>94273027>abandoned by Jace in duskmourn two set later his introductionKWAB
how do you add a color indicator in MSE
>>94273695>flickerwisp3 mana blink on a stick is too much
>>94273695that's a man
>>94274742bald eagle always reminds of urabro
>>94274412Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Not fucking Ronald McDonald.
>>94274876:o
>>94274610"Can't be countered" shouldn't be a blue ability.
>bear>3 mana>3/3FAILAIL
>>94274897Counterspells are a blue ability. An ability that counters counterspells is thus, also a blue ability.
Behold, a colourless Leyline.
>>94274915It's a fat bear.Also, more importantly, OH GOD THE BEES ARE SHEEP
Cephalid Ink MageCreature - Octopus WizardWhen this enters, surveil 3.Threshold — As long as you have seven or more cards in your graveyard, Cephalid Ink Mage can't be blocked.2/2
>>94274957>literal do nothing>still have to pay for it to be usable>embercleave existsoutside of affinity this is fucking useless thank god
>>94274960Yeah, that's Eldraine.
Llanowar Elves will be standard legal until the year 2030. Is Standard saved? Is this what you wanted? >>94274919I am one again asking for white Spell Pierce.
>>94274957This wouldn't make the cut in most decks even if it cost 0. Also, a leyline inside a weapon doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
>>94274984I honestly don't know why they reprinted Llanowar Elf when a setting-neutral version has been around for 10 years.
>>94275000Mark said Llanowar Elves was more iconic so they chose that one.
>>94274981I HATE that there are cards that weren't in draft boosters and yet are standard legal.Which reminds that Foundation gets a SHITLOAD of such cards.
>>94274984>Llanowar Elves will be standard legal until the year 2030.until 2029, it's 5 years from foundations release I believe
>>94274992Maybe the leyline produces a weapon.
>>94274984can you even build elf tribal in the next few sets? return to lorwyn maybe?if not I can only see them being useful in ramp decks
>>94275013It could be legal for ten years based on how much it is received.
>>94274957>speeds up metalcraft, affinity, and improvise >provides evasion and more than doubles a creature's damage output>don't even have to cast it
>>94275024The Tyvar cards could do something work in standard.
>>94274957I wish they would just stop it with the fucking leylines. This is our 7th leyline this year. The staple sideboard ones are neat, but the proactive ones are just obnoxious.
>>94274981wtf I've never seen that card but the art is fucking awesome.I drafted a ton of WOE too
>>94275059It's not on the main set
>>94275075>It's not on the main setWHY?
Marvel sneak peak.
>>94275090It was part of the "Jump-start" set exclusive cards I think WOE was the last of of these packs.
>>94275091When did Iron Man fuck Ant Man?
>>94274964This is cephalid erasure, the empress will hear of this.
>>94275053planeswalker tyvar has use in combo decks, it's not that great in elf rampbellicose requires too much mana for being a lord, and if you drop him turn 3 your elves are already tapped for his effect to trigger, as a card he's quite awkward
>>94275102Can't believe they got rid of cephalids but we still get shit like vedalken fish detective.
>>94275009>>94275000I wish they would revisit the llanowar story. But lore is gone.
>>94275101It was one of Karn's private parties that he used to have on that private planet of his.
>>94274964>>94275102>>94275124It's so weird to look at 40k, trying to get rid of all their generic-but-iconic names and replace them with copyrightable made-up names, then you look at Hasbro and they're going out of their way to get rid of cephalids and viashino. Why people gotta fiddle with shit?
>>94275131The one where he laced his baby oil with glistening oil?
>>94275025might as well make it eternally legal at that point
>>94275147No, I think it was before that, but it's hard to say for sure since he "phyresisized himself" in prison PROTIP HE DIDN'T DO IT TO HIMSELF. Now his noggin is so scrambled that he's crushing skulls with his fist.
>>94275163I always thought it would be funny to have a pushed creature with "This card doesn't rotate (it is always legal in all formats)". As a parody, you know, to make fun of "this card can be your commander" and "you can have more than one commander" and similar cases where they use bullshit rules text to redefine a format. But it's getting harder and harder to parody MtG because the parodies come true. .
>>94270065>>94270090Just stop with phyrexians. You guys don't want to make Phyrexians so stop doing those retarded robots.>>94270872>>94271895Shit.Also, didn't it get phyrexianized? >>94272158>Akira slide>jamigawa bike>no boobies (where did the milkers go?)shit>>94274957shit>>94274964Good looking Cephalids? O0O(glad they dumped the n_GG__ cephalids from new shitpanna)
>>94275146the card is called>Cephalid Ink Mage
>>94275209Cephalid used to be a type and now they removed it.Cephalid - XXXXOctopus - YES!!!!Viashino - XXXXLizard - YES!!!!Coyote - YES!!!![shit nobody asked new typeline that is used in less than 10 cards] - YES!!!!!
>>94274584>>94274610It should just be mono green
>>94275227They are behaving in ways that give me thoughts
>>94274897>>94274919How long until they print "spells your opponents control CAN be countered until EOT"
>scavenging ooze in FDNcomfy...
>>94275227Cephalids are playing with the big boys now.
>>94275270finally a good card
>>94273962if lorwyn was made today it would just be fantasy scotland, with the fantasy creatures as similar as the originals as possible and an obvious expy of cu chulainn (who would be black and/or a woman)
>>94275183honestly that's the only reason I still stick around. all these shitposts manifesting into reality is endless entertainment
>>94275227Viashino and Cephalid were changed to be in line with how Leonins are just Cat and Avens are just Bird.
>>94272642Cool art, butit looks more like a Blightsteel colossus than a Darksteel Colossus.
>>94275265Soon
This is the future of mtg. They opened the floodgates, there's no turning back now. Wait until they find out how much they can make with signed coomer full arts, it will become the next WS.
>>94275310"Aven" and "Leonin" were blanket terms for a wide range of catpeople/birdpeople. "Viashino" and "cephalid" were specific unique species. Hasbro is dumb.
>>94274566>LorwynI always thought the main appeal was the art style not that it was a unique setting
>>94274662If canadian highlander would just ban all UB shit it could unironically surpass commander
>>94275359>"Anon finally emerges from beneath his rock" circa 2024
>>94275019Thats even dumber
>>94274957Stupid design. Either it does absolutely nothing, or it is way too good - there is no in between with this.
>>94275359>Syr Elenora, the Discerning's power is equal to the number of cards in your hand.Actually based, this is an old mechanic and it was always a great fit for cold-blooded shonen characters.
>>94275552What? I think that you have affinity PTSD and that you should talk to a trained professional. This is free doublestrike if you can find a way to equip it for free (in the same game that you win the leyline lottery) but beyond that it's fair and mediocre.
>>94275359angry they are taking space away from ugly black women?
>>94275310>>94275370small sacrifice to enable more tribal matters
Divine ResilienceInstantKicker 2WTarget creature you control gains indestructible until end of turn. If this spell was kicked, any number of target creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn instead.
>>94275573Eventually black dykes will become an anime fad. The fad won't last long, sure, but I'm genuinely looking forward to how mad it's going to make you.
>>94275091Looks cute! =^_^=Still not buying any UB products for this dead game
>>94275577It actually isn't. Also, more importantly, they still suck at tribal matters. They're still printing new creature types for no reason. Nevermind the times where they've sabotaged pre-existing tribal support for no reason (like retconning toothy [fish] to be [shark]s).
>>94275585I'm an adult, I don't watch anime.
>>94275605but those are niche tribes cats and birds are all over the place and they care about tribal interactions
The crazy thing is they could stop producing UB shit tomorrow and all eternal formats would still be dead formats
>>94275605>>94275627Fish will forever live in the shadow of Merfolk too.
Loving the anime girl art, keep 'em coming
>>94275585black dykes consistently failed to become a fad even in western entertainment despite all the millions wasted on them, so it seems like you will be waiting for quite along time
>>94275578pretty cool
When are they putting cunny in the game?
>>94275605>>94275627>>94275634Just need to change Werewolf to Human Wolf
>>94275653
>>94275615So why talk shit at people who are mad at anime? And why respond to posts making fun of posts that talk shit about people who are mad at anime? >>94275638>black dykes consistently failed to become a fad even in western entertainmentlol, whatever helps you sleep at night. You know I'm right though, Japan loves to do weird shit with western racial politics, it's inevitable.
>>94275673yes anything to make them playable
I'm an adult, I don't play children card games.
>>94275634>>94275673Just need to change merfolk to fish humans. And elves to faerie humans. And goblins to devil humans. But "devil" was another tribal blunder, they should have just been red demons.
>>94275694Me too. I only bitch about them on anime forums.
>>94275701Bad analogy werewolves have a dual nature and change forms
>>94275685Because the subject was magic cards not anime
>>94275694I always hated this meme. There's nothing inherently childish magic. It's only ever been employed by cope/seethe enthusiasts.
>>94275749*about magic
>>94275310Should have been merfolk.
>>94275749Children love cool dragons and swords
>>94275826And black women.
>>94275685blah blah blah, you are still the angry one while i'll never be angry, the pendulum is swinging back, your angry stronk black womyn are getting replaced by kawaii animu, etc etc
>>94275585>e-eventually they will be popular...>stop laughing! >:(
>>94275796>vedalken fish mutant, typical of ravnica simic faggotry>looks like a merfolkthey were afraid of making an actually good merfolk tribal
>>94275826Children play with hotwheels, therefore formula 1 is a children's hobby.
>>94275953I mean .....
>>94275966You're retarded.
>>94274964end of an era
the next schism in wotc will be when the suits realize how popular gacha games are, and the they/thems resist by trying to make them fat black covered-up lesbians
>>94276114TCGs are the original gacha games
I know people seem really angry and up in arms about the UB being standard legal.But honestly why does the art on the card matter? Its still the same cards, it's just the art on top is change to be spongebob or spiderman. It's still magic.I don't know, maybe I'm too old to be angry about everything, but them making UB into standard seems fine to me. Note I only play standard paper/arena and commander casually with friends. So I don't give a fuck about modern/pioneer/ or whatever else dumb legacy format.
>>94272158There was a point in time where "Chandra doing cool pose" would've excited me. This image doesn't. It also doesn't make sense: if the point of the set is a race to the death, why do the sliding stop? Did she forget to turn a right on the i-01 interplanar highway or something? WotC just keeps squandering their potential for interesting things.
>>94274915please ubderstand this is the signpost mythic for the jumpstart minipack they had to cram four upsides into it at the cost of paying more mana
>>94276216The art has always been one of MTG's greatest selling points, it had many fantastic pieces no other TCG ever came close.That being said, it's been so long since they abandoned their commitment to art and the old frames (which were the other half of this game's aesthetic appeal) I gradually stopped giving a fuck. Might as well play with Cloud and Spongebob if the alternative is some ugly DEI quota fill.
>Foundations Jumpstart (J25)>58 cards>29 cards where the set is “j25” and the card types include “legendary” and the card types include “creature”
>>94276216>>94276279shut the fuck up please just SHUT UP!
lol angry culture warriors
>>94272309>>94272845>>94273377all me by the way
>>94276293only one thats angry is you
>>94276279Even the shitty weeb art is better than niggers.
>>94276310no saying the racial slurs please
>>94276282okay? and?
>>94276323good question
more UB sets means less shit i have to buy... i guess
>>94276323I hate legendary creatures.
>>94276400But what if it's from <your favourite franchise>
>>94276216yeah even ignoring the disgusting "people" they shove into everything, magic's designs have deteriorated to an absurd degree. the aesthetic of new planes are just bad, especially when it comes to human and clothes design. the sooner they stop with them the better
>>94271959It all comes down to which IP you like and which you don’t. I’m excited as hell for final fantasy in standard but at the same time don’t really care about marvel. You have to take the good with the bad. There is- theoretically- some good for everybody
What fucking faggot contrarian do you have to be to dislike lotr/warhammer
>>94276514didnt buy LOTR, didn't buy fallout
Lots of disingenuous arguments from both sites. I'm happy I can finally jack off to MTG fanarts now
>>94276557Same here. FF in Standard feels like a historical event, like a president being assassinated or something.
>>94276557Marvel's something I just kinda feel nothing about. I theoretically like a lot of Marvel characters, but in a rather detached way. DC personally does more for me, if only just because of Superman. Marvel fatigue doesn't help the general "eh" feeling I have towards it. It'll be neat to see what they do with various characters, I just hope they're not all "Storm has storm"-tier. How the fuck are they gonna distinguish Peter and Miles, mechanically, anyway? I guess Miles might have some sort of unblockability or something because of his more stealthy thing, but I dunno.
>>94276565i wanted to kill black aragorn with space marines but it never happened because none of the cards are playable competitively
>>94276282>can only play them in commander or other eternal formatsdoes it really matter?at this point they should make jumpstart the format where "built for commander" cards get printed and leave standard/modern sets alone
>>94276639Miles also has electricity and does stuns stuff. (stealth, flash , stuns)Meanwhile peter is more of an outright brawler and does more with his webs. Also tends to be the leader of the spider gang (if they want to do spiderverse shenanigans)
>>94276639>storm has storm>Wolverine has regenerate>captain America’s abilities are called “throw” and “catch”This more tongue in cheek design has made its way into real sets. Expect more of this. >>94276282>the number of legendary creatures per set has gone down, actuallyFucking lmao. Has anybody posted the graph to nose’s blog?
Trans sisters, we won!
There is nothing wrong with wanting coomer art. If I have to spend 30 bucks on a single piece of cardboard I want at the very least for it to be sexy or cool or have good art that makes me happy.Paying for shit that's made ugly on purpose all in the name of a demographic that doesn't even play the game is absurd.That said I really don't like the anime cards in MtG, they all look like generic Pixiv slop and vastly inferior to any actual anime TCG.
>>94276848I mean it was her or Feldon for the "character from one of Magic's most popular online stories".
>>94276848Is this the granny or the grandchild who taken her name
>>94276887>her
Oops, a fifth Kellan. This is the shortest time for the most legendaries for one character, right? Has to be.
>>94276848>this is considered winning>still looks like a dude in a wig with a push-up bra onMy fucking sides, anon
>>94276557>>94276619sick troll honestly definitely high effort you are definitely giving it all you got so i think you deserve a response for how well articulated this troll is good job
>>94276893I think it's meant to be aged-up Alesha from the Dragons timeline.
>>94276848>>94276903>MORE LEGENDARY CREATURES
>>94276848>>94276907I wonder how the artist took the assignment. I think the original art was done when it wasn't established Alesha was supposed to be a tranny, but I wonder if for this new one the artist was split between "do I make the character look male in drag?" or "do I make it look like a woman and thus nobody is able to tell it's trans?"
Also the bone bro returns.
>>94276910>waah I hate crossovers waahListen, I’m not big on it either but do you expect me to complain when it’s something I actively enjoy?
>>94276716Because. It's clearly a commander set.But also for new players.But they just said Universes Beyond should be legal in all formats, so new players who get introduced by UB, can find a way into Standard.So why do UB if they can just do shit like this?
>>94276948Jumpstart is a standalone sort of experience, and fills a similar role to Commander without being Commander in the sense that you can just pick it up and play it with a newer player. UB gets players interested, Jumpstart teaches the fun of the game.
>>94276928That’s the thing, right? If you just draw a woman you don’t get the approval of the le representerinos crowd, but if you draw a dude in a dress you expose what’s actually happening. Is there any winning if you’re the artist in this situation?
>>94276999Or, rather, UB and Jumpstart target different audiences. Jumpstart is the way to get people in with the game itself. UB is for "oh hey, thing I like" players.
>Detective
>>94277005A quick look at the reception on other sites indicates they did just fine with this one.
>>94276848Imagine chaining these if it wasn't Legendary.They can't even print shit for EDH that's playable i EDH. Why, all these Legends are so fucking shit for EDH why make them Legends at all.
>>94276903One Kellan to rule them all.
Y'know, I forgot this was once in Standard. Now it is again.
Also Aetherize, speaking of "cards that have been in Commander precons for years but not in Standard for years".
Also OG Tatyova. Not quite as long since we've seen her.
Looks like foundations limited will be simple fundamentals fun
Behold, seven.
>>94277261perfect for ugin's lab decks
>>94276514My favorite franchise used to be Magic at one point in time. Now it's dead, replaced by literally everything else. WotC have no integrity and so they won't have my dollars.
>>94276848>trannie growing up to reach elderly ageUnrealistic.
>>94277261>no hastetrash
>>94277261I like it.
>>94277261The art is pretty cool.
>>94277293In Tarkir, they can't actually mess with their own hormones so they don't destroy their brain chemistry chasing a fantasy.
>>94277347Capenna DOES have magical hormone therapy though, as Yuma is proof of.
>>94275338Or go deeper meta in the other direction:>Big Stompy Idiot - 4GG>Hexproof, Trample>Super-Hexproof (this creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control, even if an effect would otherwise allow it)>6/6
>>94277161>>94277173>>94277201I dont speak brown
Fiendish Panda 2WBCreature - Demon BearWhenever you gain life, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.When this creature dies, return another target non-Bear creature card with MV less than or equal to this creature's power from your graveyard to the battlefield.3/2
>>94277261Why the fuck is it formatted like that
>>94277461>our customers are too stupid to read a bunch of keywords if they’re in one giant line
>>94277461Easier to parse, basically.
>>94277362It is Not!USA, so it makes sense.
>>94277456I do hope the english name is Pandamonium.
>>94277261akroma bros.....
>>94277261I can't wait for my opponents to slam this bad boy in limited
>>94277261Soulflayer fodder
>>94277347But they eventually 42% themselves because they realize they will never be a woman, not just because of the surgeries.
>>94271959I've been playing magic before you were born, this chart is a very poor troll.
>>94277651how so? objective reasoning only please.
>>94277651Cuck. Go back to plabbit.
How do people feel about the combat rules changing? Seems pretty arbitrary to me.
>LSV is having twins>no double preggo Gabby wife never ever>forgotten ex and kid twisting in the wind forgotten
>>94277261not bad
>>94277651>t. larping zillenial
>>94277671It won’t really matter in constructed but will come up in limited from time to time. It gives the attacker more options which is bad, but it simplifies the game which could help new player retention, which… I’m not going to call “good” but I can’t condemn their reasoning, either. Overall its fine. I’m neutral leaning towards negative on it but it’s not a big deal to me
>>94277671merely going back to how it was in 1993
>>94277717Yeah, I didn't understand their logic. You're usually only attacking if you have the stronger board state already, so why give that player another advantage?
>>94277734The reason I’m not complaining is because it will only change how combat works in one very specific scenario: double block plus pump spell. That no longer works. Everything else we already shortcut to work this way already, right?
>>94276216I'm going to use an actual Magic storyline as a parable forgive my pretentiousness.Once there was a plane called Argentum, made by this dude Karn meant to be a home for him and his Artifacts.All was going well until a bit of Phyrexian Oil, inert, leaked out of him and was found and touched by Karn's main guy Memnarch. This Oil corrupted Memnarch and gave him a god complex, and so he terraformed the plane by stealing people and environments from across the multiverse.In time thanks to a evolved version of the oil mixing with the natural environment making stuff called Mycosynth, the various creatures and peoples that were taken to the plane began to merge with the metal creating an entire metallic ecosystem, and the world became known as Mirrodin.These people developed their own cultures and lived their own lives under the shadow of Memnarch's abuses and plots, making grand structures out of the metal and history that by the acknowledgment of Wizards we only ever saw a fraction of as they apparently built lout the entire world during development. Eventually Memnarch was defeated and the the people trapped on the plane were sent back to their original homes leaving the younger generation born there to figure shit out on their own.But underneath the surface that Oil had spent the entire time propagating itself and infecting all those who touched it with Phyresis, turning them into Phyerxians thanks to a genetic memory of an earlier era from another world.Once it had amassed enough those New-Phyrexians crawled out of the underground and began a siege of Mirrodin, corrupting the populous as they went.A good fight was brought against the New-Phyrexians but in the end the people of Mirrodin lost and their home was warped and transformed into New-Phyrexia.But it wasn't the end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdDXMG9jvwg1/2
>>94277671It's whatever. Lowers skill ceiling in limited a bit, creates less unintuitive gotcha moments for new players. Will very rarely matter in constructed.
>>94277261i hate this so much
>>94277841Same. Remember when something being colorless and thus flexible and easily castable came with the downside of being underpowered?
>>94277848it's just another lazy i win if you dont answer this but also it costs you 7 life in most instances to answer this anyway.>why did you let them get 7 mana?because tron and eldrazi lands don't existimagine sitting across from this on turn 3.
>>94276903>Kellan, Goth GF Bedder
>>942778312/2The Mirrans survived, their world was being warped before their eyes, but they still fought on.Using Guerrilla Tactics and hiding in apathetic territories, they continued surviving and fighting back in whatever insignificant way they could.And that was where they were, left for years, a limbo where the Phyrexians had won but it wasn't over yetIt was unlikely but one could hopeOne by one in one-off mentions over the years we got to see a new superweapon come out of Phyrexia and another named Mirran character corrupted.But it was still not the end because despite mounting evidence, nobody said it was the end and with that there was a chance that something could of been done.Les and less people thought that way but their were still hangers onIf not liberation then possibility vengeanceAnd then there was a buildup, the Main Phyrexians started popping up across the multiverse, getting ready for a big storyline that by design had to feature the MirransAnd then we got itAnd the Mirrans were reduced to fodder meant to protect the actual main focusAnd the event ended with a big infinity war portal opening up and a bunch of mostly unrelated dudes coming out to save the dayAs for the Mirrans the last remnants of their people were hurried through the portal back to the Infinity War guys homeland in which they represent a hyper minority of the population hoping to pass a bit of their culture onward if nothing else.Right now MTG as a whole is in the one off incidents part of of of the tale but again their is still hope for something, that we don't need to follow the story to the same end.Even if it is all a massive cope
lmao not reading any of that
>>94277891>part of of ofdude chill
>>94277831>>94277891>representation is good when it's Mirrans
>>94276903Diet ragavan
They power crept all the draft staples, foundations limited is gonna be insane
>>94277947>>94277995The Mirrans are the playerbase/game itselfPeople who either don't care or actively like UB are PhyrexiansThe current state of the game is Mirrodin being turned into New Phyrexia (UB)>>94277982If your unwilling to put some vulnerable part of yourself that really give a shit into the things you enjoy than why engage with them in the first place?
Angelic Destiny in Pioneer.Need it or keep it?
glad I quit this game during Ikoria, what an absolute shitshow
>>94278049>Maze's EndAre they reprinting gates? For what purpose?
>>94278069They are reprinting gates from what I read, yes.
>>94278049Neat mazes end finally has a modern border print
>>94277976>"paradise" druid>brownDoesn't seem like much of a paradise
>>94278051>It took him until IKO instead of WAR
>>94278239>it took him until WAR instead of BFZ
>>94278216Why?
>>94278265>it took him until BFZ instead of THS
>>94278328>>94278328>>94278328
>>94277593Apparently doesn't fit with the collector number.
>>94276941>reassembling skeleton returnswas there any doubt?
>>94271895Did custom magic die or move?
