Previous: >>94269595 Cheatyface edition >OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://mtglands.com>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQHow will Foundations affect EDH?
We need a Burger King Universes Beyond secret lair.
>>94278676>TqNot a lot. Some cards but nothing crazy
Anyone tried to play with facedown cards? Yugioh style?
I don't understand the demand for anime cards. Most of them are half assed, just go to /acg/ and look how many better anime cards are in other tcgs. It should have been a one off thing with neo Kamigawa. Magic isn't supposed to be a weeb game.
>>94278691>Secret lairWe need a Fast Food theme set where each restaurant chain corresponds to a different color pair.
>>94278676How would you play Cheatface if it was legal?
>>94278798If the alternative is UB I'll gladly take more anime cards.
>>94278676>TQWon't effect much, some cool commanders in there and some cool new cards some decks might want. But I don't see anything that'll be a slammed staple in everyones decks
>>94278810I wouldn't because they killed him with errata.
>>94278714i keep wanting to do one with manifest and pic but before duskmourn i couldn't find enough good support, still not sure how many bombs to mix with synergy pieces
Gay Bolas
>>94278810uncounterable free ETB seems pretty good even if my enemies catch it immediately
>>94278714I have a minor Foretell theming in my Galazeth deck that gives a similar feeling but it doesn't hit quite the same.
>>94278818Why?
>>94278676Correct previous: >>94273696
>>94278818I agree with you but it shouldn't be about choosing the lesser evil.
I feel like this could be pretty funny
>>94278875doesnt matter
Is Isshin kill on sight?
>>94278714yes, picrel was my second deck after a failed own build first attempt.its like playing a much worse and much more vunerable control game
>thread tells me doomsday excavator is pure garbage and a bulk bin card>Someone wins world championships with a deck using it as a win conlol
>removal is stronger than ever >Faggots online drilled the phrase "kill on sight" into people's skulls>"Nuuuuuuuuu why does every thing have ward now"
>>94278945It really doesn't but I care anyway. No idea why.
>>94278966Wow I didn't know WotC powercrept Swords, Vendetta, Bolt, and Chain of Vapor.
>>94278818>I don't like those things so they don't belong because I have main character syndromeBlack people have been on MTG cards since forever. So really you just should have never started playing. No sexual preferences should be on cards, because this isn't a romance novel.
>>94278987I want a game-warping card that depicts Ugin, Bolas, and Niv presenting their asses to me I'll pay $1800 for it.
Unban Mana Crypt
>The illustrious card depicts a monstrous, clawed machine’s interaction with a robed skeletal entity whose, bearing a warning in the caption: “He craves only one commodity.”>The card was introduced in 1999 but has since been banned in most competitive “Magic” tournaments due to its reputation as the ultimate trump card — which simply wasn’t as much fun.>At the time, it was probably the most powerful deck you could play,” one player from San Francisco told the outlet. “I infer from that that he’s ruthless and wants to win at all costs.”>Pitting wizard against wizard, the game is played in a series of spells, where Yawgmoth’s Bargain renders one player defenseless to the other’s onslaught of magic defenses.>“Essentially, you’re not playing an interactive game anymore. You’re just sort of playing Solitaire… while the other person sits there and waits for the game to end,” said lifelong Missour-based player Lucas Kunce, 42 — a Democratic politician running to unseat Republican senator Josh Hawley.>“If JD Vance was playing that at the kitchen table against his buddies, then people probably thought he was kind of a jerk,” Kunce continued, describing its “reputation for being a ‘broken’ card.”>“Magic” fans online are known for comparing their favorite decks, which are said to reveal key characteristics about a player’s personality, according to the Independent’s report.>On Reddit, a subgroup for “Magic” players concluded that any deck built around Yawgmoth’s Bargain would be associated with “greed, ambition, dominance, wickedness, the dead and undead, vampires, demons, blood magic.”>“The idea of it is a deal with the devil, right? You’re selling your soul for power… It’s power at any cost, and that seems to be what he’s into,” Kunce added.
>>94278983they literally did, those cards were okay in the past because of how few their were in your deck but now you can have like twenty pieces of removal almost as good as them
>>94279020Name 5 of those 20 cards better than the listed options within color.
>>94278948He has to move to combat in colors that can't fight the stack.
>>94279027GTAJackie Chan
>>94279030White is literally the second-best color at it.
>>94279027At what point did I say better? I said almost as good as them, it's the sheer quantity of effective removal.
>>94279057So removal actually hasn't gotten stronger because an ABU card is still the best removal option. You're just mad people are starting to build decks properly in response to cards that win the game if they survive to untap.
>>94279069>So removal actually hasn't gotten strongeryes it has>uhhhh yeah they keep printing kill cards at 2 mana and we have more exile board wipes than ever before but uhhhh they didn't peint swords for 0 so removal isn't stronger it's not!you're a lying faggot, you should be tortured to death for making such a stupid disingenuous sleazy argument. You couldn't run removal tribal in the past, now you can because there's so much of it and you KNEW that and you're STILL lying, misdirecting and trying to frame ward as a bad thingYOU SHOULD BE SUFFER THE MOST HORRIFIC KIND OF DEATH
What are some commanders like Henzie that let you play usually shit cards?
>>94279105Woah slow down there bud that's a lot of words and I'm not gonna read them so I'll just stifle it.
>>94279105based
>>94279123ok, take 6 damage
>>94279132Ruric Thar didn't resolve because he has no protection. Put him back.
>>94279132AAAIIEEEE NO NO NO I TRICKBI- ACK I UHH I CYCLO-AAAAAAAAAAACK
>>94279137?>counters>against gruullearn the game lil zoom
>>94279149Yes I'm sure.
>>94279069At what point did I say individual removal has gotten better? I said removal as a collective, as in the concept within the game, work on your reading comprehension. I'll rephrase it, removal is so potent now because you can stick so many effective removal spells in your decks now.>>94279069>You're just mad people are starting to build decks properly in response to cards that win the game if they survive to untap.Projection, also false, I run more removals than anyone I know because you need to However I also don't like that I need to do that, I want to run actually interesting cards, not just "I kill thing, lose 2 life", but i have to because the game will be over before i can use those cardsAlso bolt has been 100% power crept out of being playable removal
Post decks
>>94279159you've gotten smashed by this commander before, haven't you
I just play more boardwipes, especially since its easier to make them one sided in your deck these days.
>>94279159>nuh uh I fake interact with youblue players have no friends so they have to play in the thread instead lmaoooo
>>94279190I just think it's funny he always responds to green cards when anyone playing gruul will just have more mana and keep recasting their commander
I just don't play creatures other than my commander
>>94278798Yeah the art on all of them is pretty abysmal
>>94278820>card about cheating>gets eratta to make it more fairWhat the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
>Not the same Anon>>94279069>You're just mad people are starting to build decks properly...Yeah, can you imagine 5+ years ago people were saying Bolt and Swords were Unneeded!Could you imagine people saying Temple of the False God was "fine" and Farseek was too fast and not needed. Because people were building shit decks, but reasoning "It's a slow format, so building like shit is fine, even thou good options have been around for 20+ years".Fucking. Drives me nuts. And there's no place to cash in my "Told you so!"Sorry anon, not actually yelling at you. Your comment just triggered me.
I don't play Magic
>>94279223Yes when your FIRE card wins on untap people start building against it instead of letting you win.
>>94278798Because anime art is superior and more beautiful than western art in every way possible
What are your favorite simic payoffs for having a bunch of mana that isn't just extra turn spells?
>>94279239Flash fliers of course.
>>94279239Genesis waveFinale of Devastation
>>94279069>I'm so smart for shoving all the removal and draw in my deckand this is why you cry about commanders with ward, you're a bad player who doesn't know shit
>>94278959>bad player doesn't know difference between standard and edh
>>94279254>These people are playing wrong and losing which is why we need cards that answer them playing wrong!!!Mindbreak Trapped IRL.
>>94279239pic related is my current favorite
>>94278798it's fake demand. They're limited print and thus expensive, investors buy them hoping they'll accrue value but nobody other than investors buy the shitty anime alts so they have no one to unload on except each other.It's a funny little cycle, a bit like crypto
What happens if I doomsday excruciator then wheel everyone?
>>94279105>they didn't print swords for 0Oh didn't they?
I just fear that all these pushed ward creatures will lead to better removal which will make older creatures even more worthless and unplayable.
>>94279275uh huh, meanwhile in reality you only see mindbreak trap in cedh because it's useless when hard cast and no one else plays enough to get value except storm players. Which is what makes you a pathetic, projecting retard.Because you've never mindbreak trapped some timmy but there's a 100% chance you are an izzet player and have had it used against you which is why you're so obsessed with it
>>94279296Completely mindbroken by removal.MaRo is never bringing back hexproof on your value engine. Cope.
>>94279308>projecting this hardyou're the one frothing and screaming about ward, lil bro
>>94279308>your engine will NEVER have hexproofa new eldrazi was just printed with hexproof, there are a million and one ways to give your permanents hexproof what the hell are you talking about?
>>94279251What would be a good hit for finale of devastation? Except craterhoof that is.>>94279276Damn I like this one
>>94279339bluefags just like to yap for the sake of yapping
>>94279308Holy fuck. Did >>94279296 nail you exactly right, and you just flip out and get butthurt?Well done >>94279296 , excellent call apparently.
>>94278987Those were based niggers. I was referring to the more modern ugly niggers.
>>94278809>Jack in The boxWhite/Blue>Burger KingRed/Green>McDonaldsWhite/Red >Taco BellGreen/Black>SubwayGreen/White
>>94279030Anon those colors include grand abolisher and friends.
>>94279424>five guys>five colors
>>94279308damn, you can really feel the raw, unfiltered emotion in this post
>>94279105Fucking child
>>94279320>>94279339>>94279372>>94279412>>94279462Mindbroken
>>94278948Should be, but I've often found that people ignore him in place of the cards he enables instead. In the games I've played with Isshin I think he's been targeted himself less than a handful of times. But Adeline or Krenko have been blown up plenty of times.
>>94275905Nah, Avacyn, Angel of Hope and Atraxa, Grand Unifier are stronger than Giada for angel tribal.
>>94279566>8 mana commander in mono whitelol
>>94279413I pulled this version and had the original. My girlfriend wanted one, I offered her a choice. She choose this version because it was more dynamic, filled with energy, and not a just a regular white woman. She isn't a leftist, I just think we're losing, no matter what.
>>94279622Your girlfriend is a faggot anon, I'm sorry to tell you.
The anime art commanders in foundations are pretty nice but my autism would require the entire deck to have anime art if I were to use them, seeing they were put under the variants category is it safe to assume they are getting non anime art versions?
>>94279566Giada would kill them before they were even cast lmao delusional
>>94279573I mean, you're free to be wrong. I think it's pretty obvious to most people that artifact ramp into board wipes and big angels is better though.
>>94279622That’s a nice made up story, anon
>>94279658Considering how hard she cums on my BBC, I doubt it. Try again though!
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>94279448bravo maro
>>94279681That thing dies once and you will never cast it again. Are you running 20 rocks?
>>94279703If that thought makes you feel better, I'm not going to make you feel any worse. The fact you replied, in the way you did, tells me all I need to know. And it's makes me smile.
>>94279750Go away
>>94278676>How will Foundations affect EDH?why would this set change anything? it'll be mostly a reprint set with shitty starter precons.
>>94279413this art is cool youre crazy
>>94279770Foundations is 50/50 new cards and reprints.
Thoughts?https://www.moxfield.com/decks/2ycN3LpEl02FLGSCYK8_QA$50 budget, game plan is to keep board open with edicts and removal, sending balrog at face and keeping him on the field with treasures
>>94278676>TQWe'll get a few new Commanders and some cards will become more accessible through reprints (they're even reprinting a card from the New Capenna precons into Standard, which is unprecedented), but not much else.
>pod isn't showing up tonight>I won't go next week so I can bunker down during election apocalypse>either no commander for 2 weeks or I go and play with the extremely obnoxious people at the shopCrap baskets.
>>94279831>he costs 1 less for each permanent sacced this turnhuh that's neat, I would probably stack more edicts in the deck
>>94279845You could ruin the day of spergs and have moderately fun matches on Spelltable
>>94279839Reprints from a Commander product into 60-card isn't ENTIRELY unprecedented, though I think this is the first for Standard.
>>94279777>sheboon cowboy>cool
>>94279413>>94279413The more I look at this, the more it feels like somebody drew a random cowboy, and then photoshopped in a pair of wings afterwards.Like, this is art for a mythic rare angel, but it isn't remotely grandiose or elegant. It's a lady firing the goofy not!gun while having a dumbfounded look on her face. Her coat is even full of bullet holes, which is weird since the plane doesn't have any actual bullets.
>>94279845Be an obnoxious person. Bring only your Izzet spellslinger, Azorius stax, and Tergrid.
>>94280071Correct, MH3 was the first time Commander cards were brought into a non-eternal format, and Extravagant Replication is the first Commander card to be brought into Standard.I hope we see more of this in the future personally.
>>94280209FALSE
>the only printing of Blightsteel Colossus that says it's Phyrexian is fucking MegatronIt hurts
>>94278714Yes, I actually have 3 face down decks. The key is to learn all the weird rules shit about face down cards (morphs and the like can do some interesting things)
>>94280220Oh, huh, it was first printed in Commander 2011, wasn't it.
>>94280270>Not wanting based Megatron
>>94278798Hey, at least it's not fat black women
>>94280306Yup.And put into standard in '13
>>94280220Those old set symbols make me very nostalgic. Look how it shines, gold like the sun in those days long lost.
>>94280316Megatron is not a magic the gathering character
>>94280316RISE UP!
>go to buy cards>all the non-showcase non-foils are sold out
I'm confused about the whole name -> "this creature" change. It feels like a lot of cards still just arbitrarily say the name anyway?Like shouldn't Consuming Aberration say something like>This creature's power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your opponents' graveyards.And stuff like Boros Charm still says>Boros Charm deals 4 damage to target player or planeswalker.instead of saying something like>This instant deals 4 damage to target player or planeswalker.Feels a bit weird to half-ass this change
>>94280411You are wrong
>>94280411Who cares?
>>94280419Damn are you me?
>>94278826Will you keep posting after Tarkir?
Still pissed they did TWO ghostbusters lairs and they sucked and had two mediocre legendaries.
>>94280422I believe that change only applies to permanents, and specifically does not apply to characteristic-defining abilities, as "this creature" isn't 'true' of that thing in all zones, because 'creature' on its own means 'creature permanent'. Legendaries still use their name too, which feels kind of awkward.
>>94280429Blightsteel Colossus enjoyers>>94280424I am right
>>94280437Gay Bolas is eternal
>>94280445They didn't even make two ghostbusters movies that didn't suck, what were you expecting?
>>94280437Maybe, some of them are quite persistent. Remember the toski poster?
>>94280451Feels awkward in general if you are going to change name mentions to "this creature" to avoid confusion and streamline text only to proceed to not apply the same logic elsewhere
>>94280468I think it reads well enough personally, and characteristic-defining abilities don't really 'matter' with the name change, there's no real possible confusion that could come from them using their own name like there could be with their abilities as a permanent.
>>94275087I'm gonna be honest with you, I probably should trim it down and add some acceleration. I often find turns 1/2 aren't very impactful and usually are just land/pass. I'm hopelessly addicted to the shit-tier Knights I'm using so those probably stole some slots from what could be better Reposting deck since it's relevant to what I'm replying to
How does combat work with Gishath, say I deal 7 combat damage and I put out Regisaur Alpha and a Wayward Swordtooth, Wayward is a legal attacking creature because I have city's blessing and Regisaur gives my other Dinosaurs haste. Can I attack with the newly hasted Wayward Swordtooth or is my combat phase over, a la "I can only declare one round of attacks a turn" or is it "as long as you're still in combat phase and have legal attacking units you can still declare further attacks"?
>>94280511You can only declare attackers once, this isn't YGO.
>>94280491what the fuck is the wincon in this deck?
>>94280528okay thanks they don't really explain that in the beginner manual lol
>>94280537Attacking with Knights?
>>94280537I turn creatures sideways until people stop moving
>>94280546>>94280547>no haste enabler>no unblockable enabler>situational creature protection>no hexproof>2 cards that draw cards>folds to graveyard hate instantly>terrible mana curve>"combat wincon"
>combofag doesn't understand what creatures dokek
>>94280555Yeah why is he hating on such a flavorful deck?Flavorful means shitty and not cohesive whatsoever right?
>>94280460Ghostbusters 2 is a classic and I am tired of pretend its not
>>94280570>not cohesive>99% of creatures are knights>in a knight eminence deckit's shitty but it's cohesively terrible
>>94280555>waiting until turn 5 to be even a little threateningmost fags lose by then
>>94280511Here's a quick rundown on combat:>All players agree to enter the combat step>All attackers are declared at the same time>Triggers go on the stack>Players have a chance to use spells and abilities >Resolve the stack>All blockers are declared at the same time>Triggers go on the stack>Players have a chance to use spells and abilities >Resolve the stack>All first strike combat damage is dealt>Sufficiently damaged creatures die>Triggers go on the stack>Players have a chance to use spells and abilities >Resolve the stack>All normal combat damage is dealt>Sufficiently damaged creatures die>Triggers go on the stack>Players have a chance to use spells and abilities >Resolve the stack>All players agree to enter the next main phase
>>94280555>timmy doesnt know how to win games
>>94280590Most don't play cEDH
>>94278714she's just a manifest into blink whatever you want deck
crazy this guy isn't more popular. I guess everyone prefers running ur-dragon
>>94279737Here is a list I made since y'all seem to think it's impossible to build this deck. It's not great, but it's still a stronger angel tribal deck than Giada.https://www.moxfield.com/decks/hLssdy2NLE2T0SIULQWsqw
>>94279007Not now, not ever.
>>94278676This granny has a dick
>>94278798Even subpar anime art is way better than Magic art.
I want to build Sasaya for big mana. What are some other wincons besides Helix Pinnacle for having a bunch (but not infinite) mana in mono-G
>>94280817hydras, invokers, any mana sinks really
How is he in the final year of Magic the Gathering, 2025?
>>94280783a single bojuka bog kills him
>>94280783Yeah, Ur-dragon is just stronger. At least you'll see Rivaz in the 99.
>>94280851i'm about to end your whole career
>>94280785No Armageddon? No starnheim aspirant? Giada seems worth it too, even if just in the 99. Also, some evasion like teferi's protection, ghostway etc could be useful for when you're up against exile wipes. How has true conviction performed for you? Is it even encessary when your creatures are so well-statted?
>>94280287care to share?been thinking of building yarus lately
>>94280792Cringe
>>94280792At least I appreciate they didn’t pussy out and make “her” look like something other than a buff man with a woman’s hair cut
>>94281041Her face just screams "WHY YOU NO DOCTOR?"
>>94280891>ArmageddonThis is a casual Angel tribal deck. I'm not going to add MLD to it. I didn't even add Sol Ring. :p>Aspirant and GiadaThey would be okay, but I would probably prefer more mana rocks instead.>ProtectionI don't have the space to casually run them. I don't like going all in, so I decided not to run them and to try and make the deck more resilient.>True ConvictionI just made this list, but True Conviction is great in other decks that I've played. Not sure what you mean by well-statted. Only 4 of them have lifelink and only 1 has double strike. If you're talking about p/t, then that just makes it even stronger.
>>94281114Have you had many games where you wouldn't have won without true conviction? I feel like with a board full of fliers that typically already have some good keywords and decent P/T, you don't need it.
>>94281140I don't remember most games, but I do remember True Conviction helping me close some out. Maybe my opponents would have answered my board if I didn't kill them that turn.I'm sure you could argue lifelink usually doesn't matter and that Paladin Class or Duelist's Heritage are better most of the time.End of the day I agree that True Conviction isn't the strongest card in this deck. It doesn't help the main plan of controlling the board with Avacyn and board wipes. I think it's fine as a big source of lifegain and doing more damage though.
>>94280792G-milf...dick... truly a wonderful thing
>>94278676My friend got me a couple magic cards, but how do I get into the game? I was told commander might be for me because it has a banlist like yugioh
>>94281364Ask the friend who got you the cards.Commander is the most popular format, but it's ass for learning how to play.
>>94281364If you want to play in paper you should ask at your local stores what formats are popular in your area. It's very possible that commander is your only option, but if you want to play something that's more about being competitive and trying to win you should look at the 60 card 1v1 formats. Commander is a four person free for all that's better suited to lighthearted fucking around with friends.
>>94281364Every format has a banlist. Commander is the most popular but since decks are mandated at 100 cards, it can be somewhat punishing to start with, also with the singleton rule and all. If you want to just learn the game, I'd recommend buying a dual deck and playing against a friend. You can also buy commander precons and learn that way. Keep in mind commander is a multiplayer format.
>>94281377I was just told about lands and how they’re used for everything you do. I don’t really know about which cards go well with which
>>94281424It's complicated
>>94279910Issue with a lot of edicts, specially those tied to creatures, is that they don't break even until 3 of four players have a creature down, so if you're dropping them every turn and not all your opponents are going wide it may not be so effective
>>94281424Magic is a very complicated game. I would suggest looking up some beginner videos on YouTube. It would be very long and taxing to explain it on here. Welcome to the game!
>>94280817My Sasaya deck was a ton of fun to play a lot of cool cards, I didn't include helix just a bunch of mana sinks and hurricane/the other hurricane. Sadly I straight up lost both deck boxes
>>94281451Thanks. I’ll do just that. I think I’ll start off with some kind of online sim first before buying cards. Magic stuff seem really expensive
>cheat out pic related exiling two commanders and an etali>one opponent allows his commander to be exiled instead of returning it to the command zone>I equip my lightning greaves to the angel>he looks unbothered>I pass the turn and keep mana open>He proceeds to cast wrath of god, but I cast boros charm>He gets upset and says I'm playing unfun magic by not letting him have his commanderI've seen people do this way too often. Letting their commander get exiled and then freaking out when their plan to return it doesn't work out. With any other zone those plans typically work fine, but exile is so risky.
>>94281481It can be if all you do is buy, buy, buy. It doesn't have to be that way
>>94281496Sounds like a crybaby to me. If you can pull it off, it's fair game
>>94281481You can consider buying a set of dual decks. It's a type of product that includes two decks that are meant to play against one another. It's a good way to learn the game with friends, if a little limited in scope (you won't learn too much about specifics and mechanics that aren't gonna come up with those specific decks). Some are pretty expensive now, but some of them are also pretty cheap (I see goblins vs merfolk online for 25 euros). You might have to do some research to see which duel decks are most balanced against each other, iirc some of them are pretty lopsided.
>>94280491you have a LOT of bad creatures in here like the Dauthi, Soltari, and Headless Horseman. Maybe swap those for mana rocks?
>>94280491Seeing your Soltari Crusader reminds me of one of my favourite pet cards. This thing has been so valuable to me it's insane people don't use it more. Great political tool as well.
>>94281527Hmm. Maybe I’ll get a duel deck. Call me weird, but I’ve always liked the aspect of building a deck from scratch, so I think I wanna see what I can do with what I have so far. Which is just an Azuna, lost but singing and a Ryu card, which surprised me. I assume Magic also does a lot of crossovers
>>94281592>politicalmost retarded shit in the world. Stop jerking off and play the card game.
>>94278798I would turn every card into a loli if it means UB dies.
>>94281594Magic recently (since 2-ish years ago) started doing crossovers, which has been somewhat controversial. They recently announced they'll be doing it even more in the future. There's a final fantasy set coming.Commander is definitely a good format if you like building decks. If you tell people you netdecked a commander deck they're going to think you're retarded. Adding personal spice, pet cards and your own twist to a strategy is kind of the point of the format. Commander games can get very complex though, since it's multiplayer and there's often all kinds of static effects intermingling with each other, and it's an eternal format so there's a ton of mechanics you'll see (eternal format meaning that every card since the beginning of mtg is legal, save for the banlist).
>>94281610Why the hatred for UB? Curious
>>94281608>two opponents both have a rhystic study>they start offering me escalating favors if I kill the other one instead of theirsWhat's your problem with something like this? Happened to me in a game 2 weeks ago.
>>94281621Dimir has always been lame.
>>94281621Imagine you're watching Lord of the Rings and at the Battle for Helm's Deep, Optimus Prime and Godzilla emerged to kill Hàma and then at Mt. Doom, Negan and Post Malone helped Sam and Frodo fend off Gollum who had allied with SpongeBob and Iron Man.
>>94281618> (eternal format meaning that every card since the beginning of mtg is legal, save for the banlist)That’s something I loved about yugioh. My old cards from 2006 are still useable in the modern day if they haven’t been hit. I don’t want to net deck, but this format sounds fun. I just question the 100 cards and everything being one ofs
>>94281696everything being one ofs isn't as big a deal as you might think, as most cards aren't as pushed as ygo cards. so instead of "thing that draws the thing to start the combo" you have 7 cards that "ramp", 12 good removal pieces etc. so instead of specific rigid combos you just have cards that fulfil purposes in your deck. although if you want you can still do specific 2 card combos or whatever but it's just harder to assemble
>>94281496>He gets upset and says I'm playing unfun magic by not letting him have his commanderpeople say this to me when I put imprisoned in the moon on their commander but if they wanted to play with their commander they should have picked something that wasn't a threat to me winning :)
>>94281592based card>>94281564>cut the soul for less soulew
>>94281682Oh Lord, no thanks
>>94281564>all the cool cards that enable his commander are bad>cut them for pointless mana rocks
>>94281496repeatedly taxing/removing commanders (or tokens) with pic is really fun in my abdel/far traveler deck
>>94281696>My old cards from 2006 are still useable in the modern day if they haven’t been hitthats a lie, its impossible to play not shilled deck with the infernal power creep it has
>>94281076>tfw you can't escape being reminded of the disappointment of your parents and ancestors in your fantasy investor card game
>>94280817This to find some fat fuck and swing out.Walking Ballista is lethal to 3 opponents if you have 16 forests.Kamahls Druidic Vow both ramps and can fill your board with legendaries (hopefully with haste)
>>94281812Thought you were talking about magic 2006 for a second and I was like uhhhhhh
>>94281812In yugioh I play off meta and still do pretty okay. I love Red-Eyes for example. Slightly related, but are there any cool dragon based strategies?
>>94281969There's always THE dragon, but you can make all kinds of dragon-based decks work.
>>94279424>no white castleShame
>>94281802>mana rocks>pointlessit's about being able to consistently play your deck, retard>>94281786>bad = soulkill yourself
>>94281377It's important to not start playing random to learn commander, play your friends so they can run shitpile fun decks so you can figure out what the fuck is going on
>>94281608I'm sorry you get gated out every time kevin
what do you mean its not in the spirit?
>>94281969The Ur-Dragon, Miirym, and Tiamat are the three most popular dragon commanders.If you want to kill people with your dragon commander and less dragon tribal, you can play Prossh or Scion of the Ur-Dragon.If you want to play more of a combo deck, look at Dragon Storm.
Ban mana crypt in vintage
>>94282101No
>Friend builds very strong decks that constantly draw, ramp and recur endless toolbox and good stuff cards>Destroys every deck I build >Have to change my deck so much that it no longer fits the theme or even does what I want anymore just so I dont lose>All I wanted was to play a fun pirate theme with frigates>Now news of Wizards leaning heavy into UB>Decided I'm just not gonna play anymore>Friend is upset that I wont play with himI feel sorry for him and I do kinda want to make more decks but he is incapable of understanding that I dont want to play competitive cards just to compete. I like themes and jank and I've tried to talk to him about the power level of his decks for years but he doesn't care. I have 1 competitve mono red that's purely designed to kill 1 player as fast possible but having to abandon all my other decks because it will just be him doing endless G/B/X none sense or infinites makes me loathe playing the deck anymore since it's the lonly one I play these days.
>>94282177sorry to hear that, find some more casual people to play with and get back to enjoying the game the way you want to. It may even incentivize your friend to mend his rigid ways
>>94282177Yeah, sucks that your friend won't build a lower power level deck. I like the goodstuff decks, but I've built and played plenty of jank decks so that the pod is balanced.
>>94281041She just looks like an old woman. Anything else you are seeing is your own mind playing tricks on you
>opponents don't draw until you untap>incentivizes them to leave it alive until you can also get the value>you get to use the extra cards first>curries favor while stacking up relatively inoffensive pingsAm I crazy for thinking this is a generically good and playable commander card? Like it's obviously good in nekusar and sheoldred and all that boring stuff but isn't this kind of playable in a vacuum?
>>94282313Not by itself, no. Phyrexian Arena is already getting cut a lot and that doesn't draw cards for your opponents, and isn't on a creature.
>>94280792did they really just decide to make alesha a tranny? Jfc
>>94282177>Friend is upset that I wont play with himIf he’s not upset enough to actually listen to your complaints and build at least one lower power level deck then he’s just mad he’s losing a consistent punching bag. Is there any other playgroups around? Might just need a change of opponents.
>>94282313I personally like it, might stick it in Urza as just bonus card draw that lightly punishes other people for drawing. What I like about it is that it's colorless so you can put it in any deck unlike stuff like Phyrexian Arena.>>94280792Gilf dick i'm on my WAY>>94280552>No haste enablerI'm curious what ones you'd have in mind>unblockable enablerWell I have Herald of Hoofbeats, Cover of Darkness, and Moonshaker for Flying. As well as several knights with Shadow, and I can also give them Double Strike so they just win combat before it matters too.>situational creature protectionA bunch of protection spells, a couple of protection equipment, and even blanket indestructible/recursion feels decent enough to me>no hexproofgot me there, all I've got are the shoes for that and like Dawn's truce>2 cards that draw cardsThis is just factually incorrect>folds to graveyard hateMost graveyard decks do tend to have that as a weak point, so I try to pace how fast I put things in the grave>terrible mana curvewe were just discussing how to improve on that>combat winconit IS a combat deck, after all>>94281564Dauthi and Soltari enable Sidar without being at risk of dying. They just throw out attacks for easy looting at any time. Admittedly, them not being able to block sucks, but that's how it goes. Headless Horseman is pure flavor since it was a gift.>>94281592dude I love Soltari Visionary, if I didn't already use up my pet card slots, I'd probably include it just for consistent removal people hate>>94282370I think Alesha was trans on reveal, or at least their wiki page makes it sound like they were
>>94282313read this as your opponents draw 3 and think it over again.
>>94282396Yeeah this is the first way I read it and from a rigid card advantage perspective you're right, but I do like the political implications. it doesn't read opponents draw 3 if it can help turn an opponent or 2 into friends for a few turns. idk I think it's interesting and I'm curious to test it.
>>94282313I think it depends a lot on how greedy your opponents are about drawing. A Sheoldred that gave your opponent free cards isn't nearly as good.I'd imagine you'd want quite a few wheels just so you can turn it into a threat while dumpstering opponent's hands when necessary
>>94282313It falls under the "boring stuff" you listed, but I wad really happy to see it has two types for delirium. I don't think it was made with Winter in mind, but it feels good to get solid support in the very next set.
>>94282317arena does cost bb though
>>94278714its fucking bullshit, what I play Yarus no one wants to block my morphs and kill them. Solve the mystery god dammit!!!!
dont unban mana crypt
Errata Mana Crypt
Put mana crypt on the dark side of the moon
>>94282585since stickers are in the game now, we could totally have errata's more often now, and wizards could start putting stickersheets in packs that you can correct erratad cards with by covering up the old text.
>>94282670honestly I wouldn't hate this for old RL cards that will never be reprinted with correct text
>>94282381>>94280491>Moonshaker Cavalry unironicallyjust cut it, it's shit and overcosted
>>94282697Nah
>>94282699>8 mana>3 white pips in a 3 color deck>effect is just Craterhoof but bad
https://archidekt.com/decks/8319898/urza_30This deck fucking sucks. I've been trying to make it work but 9 times out of 10 when i play it i just do nothing and lose the game, i make like 2 constructs at max and its super low impact. I don't know what is wrong with it, maybe not enough card draw, maybe the curve is wrong. Someone help me undertstand
>>94282697I've never hardcast Moonshaker, even ironically. I enjoy it far more as a revival target, and since Sidar Jabari has First Strike, it'll revive before my other creatures do/take damage under most circumstances so it changes the dynamic very suddenly
If you when back in time to the early 2000s and showed a mtg player this card they'd probably explode into dust
>>94282713can you post the decklist on a website? it's easier than reading the pic.
>>94280852I guess half his kit is gone with graveyard hate, at least he still has his mana ability
>>94282754https://www.archidekt.com/decks/8532477/knightly_eminenceSure, I'm not opposed to suggestions to make this deck nicer. I really like it, but getting it a bit more consistent and comfy is never bad.
>>94282740Yeah a lot of people lost their shit at Mirrodin
>>94282764going down your list of knights>Changeling Outcastchangelings are a sign you suck at tribal decks>Westfold RiderUBshit put in real removal>Breathless Knight10/10 on theme and good>Dauthi Mercenary shit>Exsanguinator Cavalry double shit this is for vampire decks>Guardian of Faith10/10>Haakonliterally unplayable in these colors>Headless HorsemanErrata'd to a knight but it's still shit>Knight Exemplar8/10>Shrike Forcekeyword keyword keyword and still bad>Skyhunter Strike Forcebased>Soltari Crusader/Lancerworse than Dauthi>Stromgald Cabalcolor-specific hate has always been bad>Battle Angels of Tyrovercosted and useless>Copycrookassuming you make it copy a knight, this is just a worse version of the knight it copies>Haythem KenwayUBshit>Herald of Hoofbeats-10/10 horsemanship is a stupid mechanic>Kinsbaile Cavalier10/10>Order of Yawgmothtoo slow and too expensive to be good even with evasion>Scurrilous Sentrybad>Vodalian Wave-Knightthis should be the creature you tutor up every game 11/10>Elenda and Azoronly good in vampires>Silverwing Squadronyou dont make enough tokens to justify this>MoonshakerCraterhoof but worse is a terrible topend
>>94282711You're just playing a lot of weak cards that synergize with the tokens. You need to either ramp into your commander and make it so the token can kill someone very quickly, or you need to play more control.
>>94282827>literally unplayable in these colorsthis is the worst take of the entire thread
>>94282740they'd just be confused what Ward is.
>>94281969Sarkhan vol
>>94282831Can you give me some examples?
>>94281696just fyi, magic's "main" format, modern, uses all cards printed since 2003, with only soen exceptions (mainly the ones printed specifically for commander, which aren't legal in modern). not saying you should necessarily play modern, just telling you this
>>94278798People want pretty art and regular magic hasn't been giving that to us for awhile
>>94282827>This is for vampire decks>entire card is about knights>put in real removal>is a better version of very good white removalIf you're gunna give feedback don't be dogshit at it
>>94283027Blood Tokens are far better for Vampires, retard. There are plenty of Vampire Knights, so he belongs there.
>>94283025Those new cards with anime art have some of the worst magic art ever made.
>>94282920I would cut:Biotransference, Intangible Virtue, Mechanized Production, Mirrodin Besieged, Karn, Liberator, Master of Etherium, Rebbec, Sai, Sharding Sphinx, Sydri, Prince of Kroog, Vedaklen Humiliator, Bidet of Thassa, Encroaching Myscosynth, Mechtitan Core, Swiftfoot Boots, Team Pennant, Unwinding Clock, Weatherflight.(You can keep Urza, Prince of Kroog for flavor if you want)Like, the problem is the deck seems to be built with the idea that you're going to just keep playing stuff and accumulating value forever. In real games opponents are usually just going to kill you or blow up your stuff. If one opponent blows up the board you're basically cooked.
>>94282933>magic's "main" format, modernSuch a weird thing to lie about
>>94282933I'm also not the biggest fan of rotation stuff. I don't know if modern has it, but I was told that commander doesnt. It's what kept me away from pokemon since I can get attached to some of cards. Also, is there a simple card sim for this? Each sim I've looked at seems super convoluted to get up and running
>>94283042
>>94282827>changelings are a sign you suck at tribal deckswhat a fucking retarded thing to say
>>94279116This guy, Beamtown Bullies, Zedruu
Ward should be a costed shroud instead of a costed hexproof
>>94282313people run howling mine, temple bell, othersso it's another of those
>>942791163/4 mana removal good now
>>94281969I just play fat dragons hit you.
>>94278948If they're smart and your deck is shit, yes.
>>94279132Oh wow you paid 6 mana to do 6 damage to me shit. Anyways I'll take a other 6 more and if you make it to the next turn better keep 8 mana aside.
>>94279030his fat ass doenst have to move himself.if he was designed a few years back he had to attack himself too.
>>94282827Honestly I went down this list and aside from some obviously stupid commentary, I did consider looking through every knight under the Esper umbrella for potentially interesting inclusions/replacements. Might even work in some jank keywords or maybe even Regenerate for fun. Some knights also have Banding, which while ""complicated"" is still a fun thing to pull off.
haven't played edh in a while what's the best/fastest/most consistent mono red burn/rdw deckdoesn't necessarily have to kill everyone just fuck one person up
>>94283655>Regenerate>Bandingcan you not force people to play with mechanics that don't make sense to anyone?
>>94283678Aside from the misunderstanding some newer people have of regenerate meaning reanimate it's a very simple mechanic
>>94283678Banding literally doesn't make sense because it does two different things, how do you even block as a band? do you declare them as a band before blocking or during? attacking makes enough sense but blocking is mindnumbing
>>94283678Regenerate makes sense the only (slightly) confusing part of it is it being a regenerate shield and not a post-hoc thingBanding is a meme but even that's technically not that bad.No one runs banding because they like it though, they run banding so they can get their reddit upvotes of "Here's my banding deck ;)!"
>>94283685it really isnt and even Mark Rosewater has acknowledged it's overly complicated because it doesn't have counters or any indicator or timing
>>94283699wizards also thought trample was too complicated, they believe we are all retarded
>>94283699>even Mark Rosewater has acknowledged it's overly complicatedHis opinion loses more and more credibility as time goes on. Regenerate is no more complicated than Ward
>>94281682Cool
>>94283678>Regenerate>doesn't make sense to anyoneI'll admit it can have a few 'tricky' questions but in general it's like a matter of>Activate Regenerate>Would thing die>(is it allowed to regenerate by whatever killed it)>it doesn't die>tap it, remove the damage (if any), remove it from combat so it is no longer considered attacking or blocking as part of the effect>if it was in combat and there's no bonus circumstance like First Strike/Double Strike or some kind of triggered ability, it still deals its normal damage before regenerating>BandingI mostly wanna do it so I can get more familiar with the mechanic. It's not like it's that good, but I figure 2-3 Knights who have it give me enough of a surprise mechanic to toy with. Same reason I run Shadow and Horsemanship, they're just fun to talk about.
>>94283721first time i read "Trample over Planeswalker" my left nut exploded
>>94283655What kind of creatures are you considering?
>>94283688Banding is the easiest mechanicIf you have banding, you decide how damage is assigned.
>>94283699>but Mark Rosewater said!Mark also said your new commander is going to be Cloud Strife. I don't give a shit what that nasally little goblin thinks.
>>94283721Tbf he's right most magic players are retarded
>>94283757>Mark also said your new commander is going to be Cloud Strife.No my new commander is gonna be Vivi Ornitier or Bartz Klauser
>>94283738Oh there's a bunch>Student of Warfarehas the Level Up mechanic, ends up a 4/4 with Double Strike but starts as a 1 drop 1/1 Knight which is fine>Tivadar of ThornDestroy target Goblin is a meme, but First Strike + Protection from Red is pretty cool>Knight of MeadowgrainFirst Strike + Lifelink on a 2 drop 2/2 is pretty alright>Marauding Knightdoesn't solve my high cmc thing, but I really like it as a white hate card. 4 cost, +1/+1 for each plains among all other players' lands>Order of the Sacred TorchThe white equivalent of my Stromgald Cabal, very useful for fucking up any deck that's mixed with Black>Kithkin BillyriderI like Goats and I like Double Strike>Fiendslayer Paladin3 drop, 2/2, First Strike, Lifelink, and can't be the target of Red/Black spells opponents control. Admittedly, easily just killed in combat or white damage>Sanguine GuardFirst Strike and Regenerate>Diamond Knightjust sorta fun, but probably too shit to justify in a 3 color deck>Xerex Strobe-KnightI like this because it's a 3 drop 2/2, Flying/Vigilance blue Knight intended for hostile play and it also makes tokens if you're casting multiple times in a turn>Stillmoon CavalierOne of the coolest Knights I've ever seen and I remembered it after discussing it with an anon here actually.2/1 for 3, then for W/B you can get Flying, First Strike, or for W/B W/B you can get +1/+0>Shay CormacRewards me for targeted removal and can remove all forms of protection from other boards for only a single mana. Great for politics as well.>Compass Rose PaladinsTargeted removal that's all color hate, it's kinda fun in that way that they're either just 3/3 Knights that cost 4 unless I'm against certain colors, in which case they become extremely decent removal>Knight of the Holy NimbusAuto-regenerate and Flanking>Sworn Defenderjust read her, I love her>Kjeldoran Skyknight/Knights of Thorn/Kjeldoran KnightBanding
>>94283757do you think they'd intentionally make cloud more powerfulI don't think I ever see like, any of the gandalfs, golumns, or sams being thrown aroundI guess The Ring is overpowered but that's not like a character
>>94283794>Level up>Shadow>Protection>Regenerate>Banding>Flanking>that fucking card who the fuck would tolerate such an annoying deck?
>>94283835level up is kino
>>94283841retard take
>>94283794who approved that ability?>Pay 1>change your power to their toughness -1>change your toughness to their power +1
>>94283853I dunno if it's GOOD but it's relatively unique, if you want to make sure they don't get through but their stuff doesn't die either
>>94283835A person who needs to be special, by any retarded means. I wonder what type fills that criteria.
>>94283688>how do you even block as a bandThere are no defensive bands. You gang block just like you'd block without banding
>>94283835Almost all of those are so straightforward that they don't even change the game, anon. I'll give you Banding and Regeneration, and maybe even Level Up just for being a mechanic lots of newbies won't know.>>94283912It's really solid for being strange and unique, and I like that idea of basically using it to prevent a kill from a creature so it can stave off something Goaded while keeping me in their good graces or even allowing attack triggers and making deals to not need to take damage.
>>94283025>regular magic hasn't been giving that to us for awhileWrong
>>94283025>people want pretty art>pretty art>meanwhile 90% of anime cards are the most bland generic sameface anime artworks sure, art is subjective, but i want my regular magic artworks anyday of the week. its what pulled me into MtG and away from Yu-Gi-Oh! in the first place
>>94284028regular magic artworks are relatively few and far between nowadaysyou get lazy cg on some rando from accountingat least when they made those random red legends they were drawn
>>94284018giant primates are best
>>94284035never read that flavor text, jesus fucking christ
>>94283949>shit deck with no ramp>ILL JUST ADD 30 CREATURES!!that's retardedyou're retarded
>>94284055Ramp isn't exactly the difficult concept, mostly deciding between Thought Vessel and maybe some Signets. I've got Talisman of Domination that has to go in too, and potentially Decanter of Endless Water. The creatures are the interesting part of the Tribal deck, anon.
>>94284066>The creatures are the interesting part of the Tribal deck, anon.>Tribalit's typal
>>94284088Don't even shitpost, wotc and maro themselves have confirmed it's a nonsense word that isn't meant to be used.It's tribal, and if you want to talk about the mechanic it's kindred.
If I'm not playing green should I just jam 10 two mana rocks in every deck? I think all of my 11 decks suffer from this
>>94284028A sane and reasonable opinion fifteen years ago. "Regular" Magic art since 2014 is CG, AI, and le funny 80s/90s references now.
>>94284119It sucks. I miss immersive art and flavor text.
>>94284018The flavor text on the right one is astonishingly bad.
>>94284192Because of the stealing of a joke already made previous, or the ineptitude with ellipses?
>>94284192>newfags don't get the reference
>>94282900And menace And lifelink too actually
>>94284218I understand the joke about lemures and lemurs, anon. I've seen the rhystic study video as well. Aping the work of better writers doesn't make it good.>>94284216How about all of it? All caps to indicate shouting when a simple exclamation mark would have been perfectly fine, 'the smug', 'oh gods' and so on.
>>94284218still the best last words
what are your favorite mechanics you use in your decks for simpler times, i.e. no big brain moves or durdling, just dropping and tapping a few cards?personally, I came to enjoy power doubling jund and naya. they feel like timmy's wet dream.
>>94284119even if modern MtG card are shit in comparison to back then, this doenst make shit animu arts better at all
>>94284035>that flavor textLOL so randum xD
>>94284270The anime arts are at least hand drawn and have a modicum of love and passion put into them, Miku slop being the exception. I'll take a personal artwork over some corpo designer's attempt at meeting his drawing quota any day.
>>94283029What? A blood token loots lmao it's good for everyone. You're genuinely dogshit and it was very obvious from your "help" but it's doubly obvious now
>>94284394>lootsrummage
>>94284055DECKS DONT NEED RAMP
>>94284419retarded>>94284394>creature is a vampire>makes blood tokens>vampires have tons of blood token synergy>NO IT'S A KNIGHT!!!
>>94284394explain how it helps that deck right now
>>94284394>defending a bad deck>defending a tripfag's bad deck>defending bad play>defending a tripfag's bad play
>>94284464>retardedNo... that is a proper understanding of magic lmao. A properly built deck does not need to accelerate because it's curve is properly maintained.>vamps have blood synergiesNo they really don't lmao. It's a card advantage token has no place anywhere except where you want them.>creature is a vampire (also a knight)>makes blood tokens (when knights attack)>vampires have next to no blood token synergy (just like knights because it's a generic card advantage token)>no it's a knight!!!!!Yes objectively so lmao
>>94284464>>94284480>>94284493All three of you right now tell me why card advantage is bad. Not to mention it's a reanimator deck which blood tokens are great for.... so you can get those things in your GY to cheat into play! You're all fucking terrible at this game lmao
>>94284502>reanimator deck>Tortured Existence>Reanimatewow so much reanimation
>>94284511... did you read what the commander (the one card you always have) does anon? Or did you just decide to seethe because tripfag!
>>94284494>20+ vampire cards synergize with blood tokens>1 synergizes with knightsyup totally a knight tribal card
>>94284525>dies to bolt>no ramp to recast it
>>94284494>A properly built deck does not need to accelerate because it's curve is properly maintained.hahhahahhahahoh waityou're serious!?!?!?!let me laugh even harderHAHHAAHHAHAwho taught you the game retard?
>>94284528Why are you lying? Creating =/= synergy lol. There are 6 vampire cards that can actively use or benefit of of blood tokens being used. Which again is irrelevant because blood tokens are CARD ADVANTAGE, and they are a way to put your reanimation targets into the graveyard. Objectively a very good include you're just bad at magic lol, and dishonest, here's the link for anyone who wants to see it's a handful that can actively engage with tokens outside of making them https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=%28oracle%3ABlood+oracle%3Atoken%29+%28game%3Apaper%29>>94284538This is the argument of someone who has lost lmao>>94284543This is so weird because acceleration isn't really seen outside of edh. Magic doesn't need acceleration. Laughing and acting beffuddled isn't an argument sorry
>>94284554put your trip back on
>>94284554>acceleration isn't really seen outside of EDHIf you don't play any other formats do us a favor and don't pretend you do.
>>94284564I'm confused it's not part of pioneer or modern nor is it really part of any other eternal formats lol why are you larping? Show me a modern deck that is competitive and has ramp
>>94284554>acceleration isn't really seen outside of edh
>>94284293most of the anime cards look like someone drew a regular piece of MtG art and then just piped it through some sort of an AI image generator to make it look like animethese cards look like shit and are no different from the awful art present in the regular sets
>>94284554>rummage is card advantageyou go down a card to draw a card, you lose before you gain and it isn't always a good choice when you can't pick ahead like with looting
>>94284584>card selection and curation isn't advantage>cards in your graveyard in your reanimator deck isn't advantageYou're bad and not worth discussing this game with>>94284574Same to you, show me a modern or pioneer or hell even a legacy deck with ramp in it and that wins.
>actually cope-posting and defending a tripfag's shitty eminence babymode deck
>>94284627It's sad when your argument is beaten so badly you have to just slink away and pull a move like this lmao. There's a reason you ALL stopped replying, likely a rare moment of honesty where you all realized how retarded you looked
>>94284578I get it's not illegal to be gay and retarded, but that doesn't mean you should.
>>94284675cope and seethe weeb
>>94284675If you actually think the anime cards are well drawn i feel incredibly bad for you.
>>94284648there's nothing to argue about when you're choking on his dick
>>94284698Actually the intent of my posts here wasn't to defend swordbro but to shit on the retard giving dogshit advice. I don't care about the deck. I care about some retarded crying about standard enchantment removal and a knight that objectively helps his deck. You're bad at the game as I have thoroughly proven multiple times now
>>94284747>SLUURRPPPSLUTPSLURLSUTPLSUITLSLURRRPPPPyes, i understand now
>>94284751Genuinely embarrassing behaviour from presumably a grown ass man lmao
>>94284752do better, then
>he put fucking Archfiend of Ifnir in the deckclosing the tabdone with this shitholy fuck this guy's bad
>>94284822>deck where you constantly discard cards>bad with ifnirthat's like the only type of deck it's good in
>>94283050Standard is the only format that rotates, not counting powercreep making old decks unviable. Modern has gone through several of those powercreep "rotations" lately due to sets that were printed directly into it without needing to be balanced for weaker formats, but they've acknowledged that's a problem and have made some changes that should make it happen less.
>>94284839>check the Rec>top commanders include but are not limited to Oskar, lady long-name, Toluz, Raffine, Anje, Olivia, Chainer, Raven Man>no Sidaryeh... sure bud... starting to think that retards dwell here
>>94284419Maybe if you like getting regularly pooped on, sure
>>94284856>check the recholy shit i have never heard something so cringe
My scene is pretty casual (softly enforced) so is it dumb of me to act slightly tilted when we are in a casual match and someone drops down a The One Ring or a Jeskai's Will?Do I have the right to call out how out of power range those cards are but still continue with the game?I just want to make sure they feel like shitheads.Getting kind of tired of having to sit down at tables and threatening to use a cEDH sniper deck if people are plopping out overpowered bullshit."What power level are we playing''HUR IT'S NOT TOO BAD IT'S JUST GOT *names overpowered bullshit* IN IT"OK then I will use this deck specifically made to punish greedy mana and cEDH decks."OH HURRR NEVERMIND I'LL PICK ANOTHER DECK.
>>94284932Why are you asking this on the uruguayan clay-molding forum? Talk to your fucking group, anon and tell them you dislike high-powered and/or expensive cards like one ring and explain why.
>>94284932>is it dumb of me...Yes it is. You sound like a whiny fag anon
>>94282740>manifest menace>can only be blocked by 3+ creaturesit will happen in 2025
>>94285029we already have the prototypes
>>94284932Everyone who's played magic for more than a year is going to own at least a few halfway expensive cards. People like playing with those cards. Having expensive cards in a deck doesnt make it good either. You sound like a bitch.>captcha: G0Y4ME
Can she work as a Commander?
>>94284932>is it dumb of me to act slightly tilted whenit's natural, but the smart reaction would be making a list of all the OP cards they use, then build a good deck using many of them.I had a bolas citadel faggot at out casual table for months. After the entire group had to watch him play solitaire for the Xth time, I simply build the most disgusting lifegain deck I could come up with, complete with several tutors just for the citadel, and proceeded to play only this deck when the faggot was around. it was pure joy to see his shit-eating grin drop when he realized he will never get to play a citadel again as long I keep playing this deck.
Starting to unironically like swordbro
>>94285203she only works as a commander
>>94285217Cringe
>>94284839Ifnir isnt really worth it if you can only discard once a turn, in a phase. He is only worth it if you either discard instant speed or can dump multiple cards at once, like in Raffine. He is a lightning Rod for removal either way, so having him for a once a turn trigger is too cute of an effect
>>94285229ziatora
>>94285331Good thing there is a ton of discard in the deck!
>>94284591eldrazi decksmonogreen devotion
>>94284932Funnily enough, I have one guy in my pod who plays Jeskai's and another who plays the One Ring.One Ring player has gotten busy with life so unfortunately has been absent a lot. They did pull it from a booster themselves, so I'm happy for them.Jeskai's player plays Prosper, so they have actual synergy with playing out of exile. And only plays the deck maybe once or twice each time we play.We do have a Bolas' Citadel player. But he fixed it himself by taking one too many lengthy turns, so now whenever he plays it, he's getting brought to sub-10 hp before we continue hitting each other again
>>94285417>>94285214Is bolas citadel really such a problem card? I have it in my Oloro deck for value, but it doesn't typically devolve into solitaire. Probably because I don't run top in it either.
>>94284028>i want my regular magic artworks anyday of the weekYou mean the kind of art back in 2010s when this picrel acceptable? Because yeah sure. I wish too there were more women in magic.
>>94284028>bland generic sameface anime artworksThat doesn't disprove it being pretty
>>94285551No but using your eyes does. The anime cards are terribly drawn.
>play jelly wife>Deck is just made up on cantrips >Just hit people with jelly wife and her jelly pet Life is good
>>94285573I like them, they look like comfy low quality 2000s anime art
>>94285573And yet they still manage to be a step up from MtG's recent art
>>94284932>play mediocre deck>but it has The One Ring in it>so retard-kun thinks it's automatically too good for casualMany such cases.
>>94284932The one ring is mid
My table has a run of people playing pure hate decks for some reason. First one guy built Eluge, Shoreless Sea with twenty counterspells to cast for free. Next guy builds Shorikai jam packed with counterspells and creature wipes that wouldn't touch his vehicles. I'm thinking I'll join the hate party with picrel and blink value ETB creatures while counterspelling people. Maybe we'll get it out of our systems after one miserable 3 hours game game of shin kicking.
>>94285488>Is bolas citadel really such a problem card?yes. once bolas citadel is out, you will start shitting out permanents, especially in a lifegain deck, but it doesn't mean you automatically win, which leads to opponents being force to watch you play solitaire and resolve your millions of triggers before the next turn. and if it isn't removed after your initial solitaire run, people get into the joy of WATCH YOU DO IT FUCKING AGAIN. it's pure cancer on the level of nadu.>I run it in my eminence commander deckI sometimes wonder if the lack of self-reflection comes naturally with people who play eminence commanders.
>>94285714Just run artifact destruction, noob
>can't run 30 giant growths.dek because Nadu got fucking bannedIs there any other commander in existence that can make spamming giant growth not suck ass?
>>94285488It tends to make turns take really long in my experience. I personally loathe it when I have to sit there waiting for someone to take a 5+ minute turn that equates to: Play a land, cast a spell and pass. And whenever I point this out, directly or harshly, I get told "yeah your decks are just creature smash pass in Jund colours." God forbid you take the time during other people's turns to consider your avenues of play. You can plan multiple things to do at the same time. Fucking hell.
>>94285732>the one commander that turns [useless shit spell] useful because it is now an even more powerful cantripof course not
>>94278810Put him under a land drop
>>94285730>just always have itI wish, but in reality bolas citadel is one of those cards that take any momentum a game had and turn it into a slog for everyone involved.the best way of demonstrating this to people who don't understand this is to play that same card against them and watch them suffer.
>>94285732There are tons of commanders for this you're just bad builder
>>94285532yes
>>94282396My first thought too
>>94285732Gargos.
>>94282313That's going in my nekusar edh deck
>>94282519You're in red and green. Make your morphs fight, use damage based boardwipes etc. Magic is easy
>>94284932you're an idiot, anybody who played modern when the lotr set came out will own the one ring casual or not because casuals recognize and use good cards toothey are also perfectly happy to use atraxa, sheoldred and leyline binding (maybe not in commander but it's good in modern and standard)it's ridiculous to expect a casual player to keep up with your definition of power level. A casual player will always pull out a random unpredictable deck filled with random cards, some awful, some ok and some extremely powerful. Don't be a child
What's your go-to arbitrary number you declare for your infinite-loops?
>>94285903Okay, give an example?>>94285999The problem with not getting card advantage out of your giant growth effects is you just burn through them and die.
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>>94286144You are getting card advantage since you’re getting a bonus kill spell on top of the buff
>>94282740eh?
>>94286555Akroma was the most powerful creature in the game for a long time, and 7s is stronger.
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>>94283655Banding is only complicated to zoomies
>>94285732Yargle and Multani
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