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*BANG BANG* Edition

Previously: >>94286176

>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:
https://mtgcommander.net/

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>CARD SEARCH
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>how to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/

>TQ/prompt:
36 new commanders with foundations. Tell us about your next brew.
https://scryfall.com/search?q=%28set%3Afdn+or+set%3Aj25%29+is%3Afirstprinting+is%3Acommander&unique=cards&as=grid
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aight turbo autists, name those cards
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I claim all cardfus both printed and yet to be printed. If you ask nicely and share why she's your favorite with me I might share her.
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>>94294489
Enjoy getting cucked in multidimensional proportions
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>>94294466
I can't wait to put this card in all my black decks (all my decks) once it comes out!
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>>94294466
This art is sick and not in a good way but in a creepy way. It's straight up satanic. Reminds me of the WotC corpos pulling the strings of their cult, herding and manipulating them into degradation.
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>>94294466
>TQ
>no orzhov
>no boros
>only izzet is too good to have fun building
Right now trying to put together a boros deck, an izzet deck, and a orzhov deck, the latter two to replace unfun ones I have, and the former because I don't have one yet. Currently brewing and testing Toggo and Glacian, bruse tarl roving rancher, Zara, renegade recruiter, and sunforger quintorius loremaster.
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>>94294569
skeletons are anti-satanic. the art feels more like it was inspired by dance of the dead and the medieval christian memento mori.
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>TQ
One of these two, first actual build after just using/upgrading a couple precons. Probably going to be Eriette since she seems cheaper and I already blew enough money on the showcase packs.
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>>94294489
sigh
alright, you can have rocket launcher.
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>>94294631
Nice try, except obviously he is trying to trick them into sacrificing them into the pool of zombies. Cut your dick off already.
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>>94294660
that is the destiny of all degenerates, just like yourself. you are already dancing with death anon, and your denial of it is exactly the reason why you won't see it coming.
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Gay Bolas
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>>94294478
Top right is Hauntwoods Shrieker.
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He can't keep getting away with it!
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Hey, look, inexplicable new Elenda.
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>>94294889
>Hexproof from instants
Are we getting to the point where everything is gonna end up with the same protection status as Emrakul for no reason?
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>>94294913
>ONE
>1
>(1)ONE CARD
>ermmmmm is everything emrakul now!?
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>>94294913
Nah some of them will have Ward 4 for no reason and the expensive creatures will have Ward Hexproof.
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>>94294889
Doesn't look impressive, Killian is probably a better Orzohov Voltron Commander.
She also doesn't have any utility besides being a but body on board, may she'd be fine in the 99 but there probably better options that do more then give you a generically good body in life gain.
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>>94294648
She looks like a tard in that art.
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>>94295054
A bit, but she looks more fun to build than the aristocrats stuff I usually see out of Orzhov.
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https://archidekt.com/decks/8496366/flubs


>999s Captcha
What is this garbage?

To the point, anyone care to look at my flubs deck? Would like some opinions before buying. The ultimate goal is to get omniscience into the graveyard and copy with with whatever that land is called and cast the deck.

Wincons are:
>prowess tokens
>a bunch of small flyers that can get prowess via the same land
>grapeshot
>aetherflux reservoir
>one turn of one big hit from flubbers

Let me know if I’m retarded or not
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>buddies want to build some PDH decks
>Check for any specific bannings or weird rulings since the last time I looked into it
>Still has the "nonlegendaries can be your commander" clause
This exception to the usual commander rule made sense like 10 years ago before we had like 400 uncommon legends, now it just seems like pure 3c cope
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>>94295333
>3c cope
What?
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>>94295357
3 color, there's almost no uncommon 3c legends so you're locked largely to partners
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>>94295333
Okay? What exactly are you upset about anon? That NotCommander doesn't follow Commanders rules? If it ain't broke don't fix it
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>>94295333
because commanders aren't legends in pdh, theyre uncommons
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>>94295333
pauper edh is a cool idea, but in practice you have expensive as fuck staples like snuff out that you must use, they need a better ban list (just like normal edh uh?)
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>>94295372
I'm not upset about anything, I just think not limiting commanders to legendaries is kinda dumb at this point considering the fact there's 367 (pre foundations) legal legends
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are they going to nerf Lulu's cupsize in the ff set?
they wouldn't would they?
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>>94295424
You give WotC too much benefit of the doubt.
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>>94295333
What a stupid thing to complain about. If anything we should be banning the as commander walkers from regular edh not expanding that trash
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>>94295424
Very real chance Lulu isn't even getting a card. Have to make room for 7 and 14's cards, after all. You'll get Tidus, Yuna and maybe Auron or Wakka from the main party.
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>>94295333
>>94295396
you're completely missing the point of the matter here, people have been tuning and refining their favorite nonlegendary commanders for much longer than the last ~6 years when wotc decided to flood standard sets with legendary uncommons
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>>94294889
This is pretty bad compared to the old one, isn't it?
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>>94295266
Flubs is a weird one. His card art really makes me want to play him but every game I've seen with him ends in Nadu levels of solitaire. That aside, it looks like you've got most of what you'd want in a deck like his.
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>>94295512
I just want Exdeath. Best case scenario I see is they go the Dissidia route and put at least the cover hero and villain of the first thirteen games, with exceptions for the MMO ones, and then some extra slots for 7.
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>>94295653
Every mainline game is getting something, and I do see a Dissidia-style line-up (plus extras) making sense. We'll get between 2-7 characters from each game, I'd wager, though they may not all be in the main set, I can see them keeping a LOT of XIV's stuff for the precons for example, just to avoid the main set being stuffed with XIV shit. We'll see Y'shtola, Emet, maybe Zenos, maybe the twins, I dunno, all those in the main set, and then a lot more in the precons or some such.
Also, II will get the least reps, I'm calling it.
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Is Svella or Pako/Haldan or Svella more fun for a sub 100$ deck?
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>>94295424
I just really hope the Sephiroth stabbing Aerith art is for murder, go for the throat or doomblade
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>>94295635
The solitaire aspect is one big thing holding me back, I don’t want to bore my opponents with long turns where I don’t quite find the card I need, however, I love spell slinging and frogs too much to truly walk away.

I brewed a vial smasher/gilanra deck that could be a fun alternative, but it might suffer from too much removal/random damage that my pod might dislike.

I realize the inhibiting factor is considering the enjoyment of the other players in playing against me, do you guys make the same considerations?
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>>94295730
Hero's Downfall feels most 'appropriate' for it, but who knows.
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>>94295614
It is clearly designed for commander which makes it worse than similar cards that weren’t. All your opponents need to do when they see her in the command zone is attack your first to slow or disable her, which makes it one of the few cards released recently with a setback/hurdle to go through
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Anyway here's Loot 2. I guess Azusa can get fucked.
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>>94295784
>no pic
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>>94295790
I want this thing killed, skinned and turned into a rug. Possibly not in that order.
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>>94295790
I thought he was temur. Why the fuck is he monogreen now?
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I need to make 25 cuts to this deck. Taking all suggestions. The idea is to trigger the commander by playing interaction. Picrel is the commander. Tapped is just retarded about unreleased cards so Im I'm using jeskai Kykar as a placeholder.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/let-no-joyful-voice-be-heard-1/?cb=1730400597
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>>94295813
Nissan's been Simic and Golgari before, sometimes they just print a character in only one of their colors and sometimes they add an additional color.
They probably just want him to be more splashable.
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>>94295813
Same reason Kaito's mono-blue. Characters don't have to be all their colours all the time. Loot's a child, seemingly intelligent but still decidedly more infantile than not. That's pretty core green, because he's largely working on some baser instincts and emotions rather than anything higher.
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>>94295829
It's actually weird, because they made a thing about this set having a Planeswalker and a Legend for each colour as shown by the basic land cycles they made. White had Ajani and Giada, Black had Liliana and Tinybones, Red had Chandra and Kellan, Green had Vivien and Loot... Yet Blue had Kaito, in a new mono-Blue card, and Zimone, whose card is still Simic, because fuck consistent trends I guess.
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>>94295829
>>94295834
Right, color shifts are totally a thing, but I was under the impression that they generally change with the character changing. Maybe not.
Still the effect has no connection to previous Loot at all. As the other anon said, it seems like Azusa.
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>>94295847
They can't take the green away from Zimone, how else is she supposed to attract Tyvar if she isn't fecund?
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>>94295876
In theory they should. Sometimes it just changes for no reason.
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>>94295876
Eh, this is a largely story-agnostic set, and they wanted some simplistic legends to help new players get interested in things. It's not that deep. And Loot's mechanical identity prior was "pseudo-card advantage", whereas this one is basically a different form of that. It's a broad scope, but given Loot lacks any REAL characterisation or mechanical throughline so far, I can't say it's inherently wrong for him.
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>>94295886
Modern game design for a modern audience that doesn't care. I'd like to say it doesn't exiat, but let's be honest, mtg is normie-adjacent so it absolutely has tons of fans that don't care and just want the newest slop.
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>>94295827
I don't see the plan. This feels like a random pile of good stuff with some shit sprinkled on top.
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>>94295813
oh color identity on characters hasn't been consistent for a while. they just change it how they please now
I call it being colorfluid
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>>94295907
I was thought, at the very least, self-protection would be an ongping theme. Maybe even impulse draw. This has neither. This 100% reads as Azusa or something.
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Fixed Coat of Arms is kinda cute.
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>>94295784
loot 2?
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>>94295784
Azusa is far better
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>>94295929
It's very simple really. My table plays huge amounts of goodstuff. I want to slap down New Kykar and one or two things that I can blink for value. Then I'll spend the rest of the game interacting with my opponents using the cast triggers of my counterspells to trigger his blink ability. I may throw in something like reigns of power so I can presumably blink my board until it's nearly empty. Exchange it with an enemy board and kill them with their own creatures.
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Why yes, I am going to just play Doctor Who cards while durdling in a corner. How could you tell?
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>>94295989
>How could you tell?
Because you're begging for attention here instead of actually playing a game.
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>>94295993
Most people don't have commander nights every single night at their LGS. Do you, anon?
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>>94295981
Kykar is bait. You want to play lots of noncreature spells to trigger the commander as often as possible. The problem is why go for the blink ability? a million 1/1 spirits with flying will kill the table as well. Kykar is the payoff. Dont try to force Kykar to be your enabler.
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>>94296008
So you would suggest I cut all but the most absolutely valuable creatures?
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>>94296008
kykar is probably better in the command zone than kykar. kykar would be nice as a second kykar in kykar tho
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>>94295950
Frog tribal has become increasingly viable as time goes on for combat tactics. Grolnak chads are eating GOOD.
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>>94296023
Kykar wants you to combo off Storm style.

>>94296025
yes. kykar is better than kykar. more colors, same payoff, better second ability.
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>>94296025
Another regular at my table already has a carefully tuned Kykar deck. I don't want to be a Kykar copycat, so I'll just stick with Kykar.
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>>94295989
At first, the smell.
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>>94296066
Well actually, the first thing you'll notice, if observant enough, is that the location is not within 500 ft of a school, nor are there any minors within that distance.
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>>94295722
Is there going to be a main set and precons like Lord Of The Rings or is it going to be like Doctor Who where it's just precons and packs with precon cards?
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>>94295653
>with exceptions for the MMO ones

Hm? We saw Emet-selch, hes a major villain in 14, the MMO ones are being included.
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>>94296125
It's gonna be a main set (Standard-legal too, that's a change for all UB sets going forward because they've learned straight-to-Modern sets are probably a bad idea too frequently and also players getting into Magic via UB were annoyed they couldn't go play Standard with their cards), and presumably have precons as well.
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>>94295790
Well, at least he isn't showing off their weird human teeth anymore.
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>>94295653
>First thirteen
Why would 15 and 16 be arbitrarily excluded?
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>>94296133
I was referring to how Dissidia handled the character roster for the MMO back then.
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>>94296139
this set has some good artwork
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>>94296151
Dissidia had a major protagonist and antagonist from XI and XIV both in NT at least. Well, Shantotto from XI moreso than a 'protagonist', but still.
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>>94296151
ah, even then that is slightly confusing given they did still have some mmo characters in dissidia/duo
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>>94296158
I really didn't like the demo for NT so I completely avoided the game. I have no idea who was in it.
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>>94296066
That's every magic player, anon
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>>94296253
XI had Shantotto and... Kamla'naut, who's... I think sort of one of a duo of main villains from one of XI's expansions, he's not that interesting. XIV had Y'shtola and Zenos.
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Why aren't more cocksuckeredh (cEDH) players running this if they need the turn of breathing room from one ring so fucking badly
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>94296326
you're missing the part where tor replaces itself when you play it then draws you two cards for free the next turn then even more the next turn
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>>94296332
on the other hand, costs 12 cents
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>>94296135
Wouldn't have expected that. Assassin's Creed and its odd handling made me think anything could have been possible.
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>>94296328
Forty you vampire
I uninvite you from this thread
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>>94295974
Far better is pushing it. They both offer something over the initial extra land drop. I'd take loot personally, well i wouldnt build either, but there is more to loot than just lands
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>>94296326
I can't imagine seething this much over the existence of cedh but also caring so deeply about what cards they run. Got genuine pity for you stranger
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>>94296406
People who like 60 card formats are eternally mad that 100 card formats are more popular, and it eats them up inside.
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>>94296397
The 6 mana ability is mediocre.
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>>94295512
>very real chance lulu
Don't you cuck on me wotc, we the players get what we want RIGHT?!
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>>94296421
And I'd still rather it over a 3rd land drop lol lands are boring
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>>94296428
For all of the ff10 characters they should have variable color identities to represent the sphere system
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>>94296406
>>94296419
I just like calling tryhards cocksuckers. Especially EDH tryhards because there's much less prize support for it over Modern so what are they even competing over
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>>94296466
Anon youre embarrassing yourself. I really need you to take a moment and realize how pathetic this situation is
>hate people you never interact with
>seethe at them 24/7
>theorycraft (poorly) for their format
>seethe more that they aren't playing the cards you think are good
>come tell people who don't give a fuck about it
And then top it off with a piss poor justification, get help!
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>>94296496
Did I offend my li'l netdecker? I posted once, and I don't think stasis coffin is particularly good but it does have the same effect as one ring's etb, costing one extra mana and one extra area of interaction.
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>>94296466
>I hate people who don't build bad decks on purpose
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>>94296523
About two-thirds of the decks posted here are abysmal, so you're clearly not in the right thread to be bloviating about this
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return to three kingdoms
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>>94296523
Optimizing the fun out of binderfodder the format puts you in the same category of people who play ubers in pokemon games
its sad really
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>>94296530
>Some people aren't good at deck building
>That means you can't mock me when I seethe about people who are
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>>94296559
You're not good at deck building either, you just stand atop mt. stupid. Don't be shy, post your list.
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>>94296558
>I like to play with cards and pokemon I like
>This is a bad thing
I don't get it
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>>94296548
>we want the UBslop audience
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>>94296567
Even if I was dogwater at deck building, that doesn't magically improve your position. You're mad about people who don'tbuild bad decks on purpose, and can't stop thinking about them.
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>>94296594
Thinking they are cocksuckers whose time would be better spent playing modern is not the same thing as being mad at them for "building good decks", anon.
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>>94296326
Because the ring is cheaper even for just the stated task; even if you refuse to engage entirely with the card draw function (which is a fuckton of value) its:
4 mana instead of 5 and tapping.
It doesn't exile itself, meaning you can bounce it to use it again.
Its indestructible.

Stasis Coffin is comparatively not a very good piece at all.
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>>94296613
Anon thinking about them at all is embarrassing.
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>>94296649
That's true, on all accounts.
>>94296654
Then why are you bothering to engage me? Surely you see me as someone not worth thinking about. But of course, sometimes it's fun to shitpost about things we don't like, anon.
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>>94295730
Really hoping we get a monoblack version of this called Ultima, I just want the 'Such Devastation' quote as flavour text.
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>>94296623
good art, shame the forty fleshbag marauder effects that already outcompete it due to cmc
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>>94296623
6 mana 5/5 lmao
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>>94296837
UBslop is gay and for fags, but good reference and application to the game though.
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>>94297068
i think it'd be cool if they printed a bunch of UW cards in foundations each year of those sets but they never will
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>>94294887
>*boots door in*
Heard you were talking shit about mono red like I wouldn’t find out!
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>>94294887
I love how every time we see krenko again, they promote him.
I wonder if in the next visit to Ravnica, he's going to have one of the guilds in his pocket.
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>>94297208
Yeah, it'll be Orzhov, since he's a ghost now
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>>94296326
Spoiler: cEDH isn't a real format
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>>94297212
No? There was an ATTEMPT on his life, but he survived at the expense of Kylox.
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>>94297256
I hope they keep promoting him until he replaces Niv as the head honcho of ravnica
Also that should be the card name "Krenko, Head Honcho of Ravnica"
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>>94297212
Last time he was mentioned Aurelia was dragging him away for "arresting"
Lucky goblin.
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>>94297267
Krenko vs Niv would be a sick Ravnica set.
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>>94297270
Reminder that Aurelia put Massacre Girl on a leash, and MG seemingly stayed in the leash purely because it was fun, seeing as she could easily break free of them at any point. The thing to take from this is Aurelia is kinky but has no intention of it, which is cute.
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>>94297270
I guess that's the guild he's gonna end up puppetmastering. Sure, he may be guilty of extortion, racketeering and all that NOW but I'm sure he'll be able to find a way to smooth talk his way into making his activities completely legitimate.
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>>94294887
Official translation's flavour-text is... Wordier but more fun, I think.
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>>94297289
That reminds me, guess Argus Kos ended up joining Rakdos since that skull he was put inside was left down there.
Wonder if we'll see him alongside Tiny Bones as another one of the new Rakdos bosses in the future.
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>>94297306
>Translation
What am I saying, the original flavour text, rather.
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>>94297319
>Meanwhile, on Ravnica, Agrus Kos is stuck in a skull
Also, Judith is just... Dead? A lot of unclear loose ends there, and considering very little of MKM will recur again except maybe Proft, it's gonna be a 'thing'.
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>>94297306
The original flavor text seems more like something someone ACTUALLY involved in extortion would say.
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>>94295424
cloud will be black and barrett will be a skinny asian dude
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>>94296837
I would like that
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>>94296837
Ultima may well only get a card with regards to the FFXVI villain.
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>>94295424
Sure.
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Just got home from my LGS. Got sorted into one of the 3-man pods of the night, which is not my favorite but you learn to deal. Won 1/4 games, but every game was really spicy and really fun except the last one where I drew dead as fuck.
Picked up the rest of my maybeboard for Sidar, so now I can iron it out while goldfishing it tonight. Oh and out of the bulk box, I picked up
>Markov Dreadknight
>Foil Venerable Lammasu
>foil Emrakul's Influence
>foil promo Skarrg Goliath
>foil Shard of Broken Glass
>foil Conjured Currency
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Unban Mana Crypt
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>>94297861
Did you dress up? Was your LGS doing anything Halloween related?
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>>94297934
Nah, but I believe they did give away candy, and there we some people who still had on the remains of costumes (it starts at like 6:30 and ends at 10pm, so I figure most people were going home after doing halloween stuff during the day).
I will say that people did bring a bunch of thematic decks, horrors, zombies, etc. I figure Coram fit in well enough so if nothing else, that worked out in my favor!
as an aside
>this thing is a Knight
Now I have to get one
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>>94296577
There are three primary reasons.
There are plenty of outlets to be a WAACfag and choosing edh or pokemon for that matter means these players are not looking for competition but to prey on the targets most likely to play the game casually.
There is also the path of least resistance, the easiest way is chosen to win in pokemon is to play an ubers list (at least when I was last in the competitive scene) to the point where they had to tier shit out (sound familiar?) because it was dull as shit. Its the same with edh repetitive fast combo is boring, and there is no competitive integrity. I would argue mtg as a whole suffers from a competitive integrity issue (or feature) but either way cedh is taking something that is designed and maintained to be casual and making it competitive.
The caveat is back in the day guys like moxnix who developed or tuned the first versions of the competitive decks, storm in his case because at least then a turn 4 kill was a novelty and the deck + his lines showed he had mastery of the game
Which leads us to the 3rd and probably least common reason, copying a list off the internet in 2024 and pretending that a turn 4 kill is still an expression of skill or deck building is just laughable. Which is obvious on its face. See the term cargo cult for more info.
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>>94296466
>tryhards
This word tells me all I'll ever need to know about you. You're piss-scared of competition and need to bring everyone else down to your "irreverent" lack of effort and how cool it is to not be good at things. You're fucking pathetic and you've turned your self-victimization into everyone else's problem because boohoo you were shit at relay races or dodgeball or whatever basic human competition broke your spirit.
>Stop being good at things you like
>Stop caring about the things you like
>Everyone has to be bad because I'm bad
>I could be good if I wanted to, I just CHOOSE to be bad
>You're all trying too hard, everything should be done with maximum disinterest
You unironically disgust me because you remind me of all of those fat fags in gym class who would call anyone who could actually throw a ball, shoot a basket, or hit the bullseye in archery a "tryhard".
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>>94297999
I play EDH against other people who want to play EDH because I like EDH more than other formats. Bringing an expensive deck full of good interaction and efficient combos will give you wins in Modern as easily as EDH, so the idea that you're somehow fishing for low power opponents is really dumb. Also, tiering has existed in Pokemon for over 20 years, ever since people started using the Smogon website to coordinate net battles.
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>>94297861
>Skarrg Goliath
is that going into Coram for Bloodrush?
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>>94298129
I considered it, but the 7 cost makes it pretty undesirable for the effect. I might put Scorchwalker back in sometime for the cheap +5/+1 since i've also got a foil one of those kicking around here somewhere.
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>>94297864

Dont Unban Mana Crypt
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>>94298019
>trying to compete in the casual draft chaff format
You couldn't hang in any other format so you have to try and shit up this one
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>>94294466
>TQ
This glorious motherfucker right here. Late Nov cannot come soon enough
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>>94298309
I can't believe they made a black border card with creaturelink.
Or a non-token saproling
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>>94298329
it's even more fucked up because they had the chance to call it Saprolink and didn't take it
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>>94297961
How did Sidar Jabari do today?
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>>94298338
It's 100% intended to be a one off effect and not a keyword.
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>>94298309
>>94298329
>>94298338
It SHOULD have been a fungus that makes a pair of saprolings when he enters instead of being a saproling that has trample.
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>>94298376
It saves wotc a lot of time and effort if they establish keywords for random effects they don't throw around too often
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>>94298356
I'm going over it again now, but it did pretty alright. Nearly won the game it was in, but ended up losing to a really based Wand of Wonder play that caught my Raise the Pallisade. Bounced my Knight Exemplar, Vodalian Wave-Knight, Elenda and Azor, Sidar Jabari, Kinsbaile Cavalier, etc. It was a photo finish.
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>>94298388
what would [creature] link be templated as? only for 1/1s? or would it be [creature]link for P/T [creature] Tokens?
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>>94298417
What changes are you making?
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>>94298329
Creaturelink?
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>>94298493
as seen on picrel
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>>94298502
Wow that's fucking awesome
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>>94298502
I see a gray border. A joke set?
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>>94298489
I've got a big maybeboard again
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/8532477/knightly_eminence
Want to add more draw/looting, recursion, and improving which knights I'm using while keeping my pet cards fairly in tact.
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>>94298514
...........................yes?
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>>94298536
Was just making sure, I've been out of this game for awhile, just dabbling here and there, ty................................
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what is going on with the MPCfil basic lands
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>>94298630
It's something different?
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>>94298630
I think if someone sat down and played these against me it'd do psychic damage
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Ajani's Pridemate Foot Art
Uoghhhhhh this set is REALLY spoiling me with Halloween goodies
Can't wait for the release
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>>94298526
You don't have any spell recursion in the deck so this card isn't really that good, but its worth mentioning to you anyway.
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>>94298739
I love that goofy ass card and have considered it quite a few times, they should just reprint it with it being a tribal instant - Knight so I can recast it way too many times with Haakon
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>>94298785
I am currently using it to hilarious effect in Chun-Li to generate a Simp Squad as her blockers
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>>94298791
>Chun-Li
Care to share your list anon? Always wanted to try Chun-Li. I keep hoping we get a revisit to Street Fighter one day.
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Gimme your fav protection spells for Voltron g r w
I'm suffering from my own destroying my enchants
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>>94298946
The usual duo of Tamiyo's Safekeeping and Loran's Escape does decent work. This one has also proven to be useful in both protection and removal.
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>>94298946
Robe of Stars
>Easily searchable
>Cheap
>Repeatable
>Basically only 2 cards in the game answer it after it resolves without player removal
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>>94298946
Sometimes, protection doesn't cut it
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>>94298946
Choose violence.
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>>94298973
Top tier, that's awesome.
>>94298983
Sadly no instant so.. not really useful for what I need.
>>94298987
I can do that for 5 less mana already.
>>94299018
That doesn't do it.. MY OWN protection spells kill MY OWN auras. That's the major issue here.
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>>94299038
Okay so, to be clear, what you really mean is "What are my options in GRW to make my boardwipes asymmetrical because I keep nuking my shit?"
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>>94299212
No, I don't really play board wipes.
My protection spells are all "protect from color X".. but my enchatnts are all white or green, some red.. so when I eat a path to exile or swords to plowshares and wanna protectt, I kill half my own auras on my Commander.
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>>94299212
Or like.. a beast within.. I can't counter that without fucking myself in the ass
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>>94294466
>TQ
Rather than new brew I just got a bunch of direct upgrade for my Olivia, Mobilized for War.
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>>94298816
STOP DOING THIS SHIT WHERE DRAGON TOKENS HAVE INCONSISTENT STATLINES JUST SETTLE FOR MAKING THEM 5/5 RED FLIERS YOU LITERALLY DID THIS IN THE SAME SET!!!
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>>94299292
Yeah we're well past consistency. Spider tokens used to always be 1/2 and then these cards got released
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>>94299406
only 4? you are like a little baby watch this
>1/1 black insect token
>1/1 black insect token with flying
>1/1 black/green insect token
>1/1 black green insect token with flying
>1/1 green insect token
>1/1 green insect token with flying and deathtouch
>1/1 green insect token with infect
>3/3 green insect token
>6/1 green insect token with shroud
>1/1 red/blue insect token with flying and haste
>1/1 white insect token
>1/1 artifact insect token with flying
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>>94299515
They had a phyrexian saproling I guess but otherwise they're perfect.
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So what are the chances that a lot of stuff comes off the banlist when whenever the hell this restructure/power level system gets implemented? I've been checked out since Brothers' War and haven't really been playing much, but I did make a Braids, Cabal Minion French EDH deck I built a long time ago so I could rep my waifu when the local store was running French has a bracket.
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>>94299634
Both time they have discussed the banlist since taking over it's said that they wont be adding anything to it but are looking at removing things from it.
So probably pretty good odds at least something comes off the banlist
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>>94299515
who cares?
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>>94299656
Me trying to make an insect deck and needing 4 different kinds of token
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>another "any number of" card
YES FUCKS YES ANOTHER MEME DECK TO BUILD. My Persistent Petitioners deck is so much fun I almost never win but who cares it's fun as hell to play
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>>94299665
Kek
The pun is great
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>>94299223
This and clever concealment should do it. Also, robe of stars does what you want as long as you equip it beforehand.
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>>94299692
The pun is great. The effect is great. The casting cost is great. It's perfect I love it. The only problem is that pic rel is the only monowhite rabbit so I gotta find another commander for it. Might go Arabella so I can include stuff like Impact Tremors
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>>94299634
Most of the cards will get removed from the ban list. Shaharazad, Chaos Orb, Falling Star, Conspiracies, Ante, and Stickers will never be unbanned, but we still don't know if Tier 4 will use a Vintage or a Legacy list.
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>>94299716
Ohh, now that's a cool one.
And it does not interfere with any auras or equips? Cause I learned the hard way that protection against colors fucks me too.
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>>94299729
Protection removes existing effects, but phasing picks up the creature and all it's auras and puts it to one side until the next time you untap. Equipment stays on the battlefield, phasing was invented before equipment existed.
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>>94299729
When an equipped or enchanted creature phases out, they take their auras and equipment with them. When they return they come back with the creature, still equipped/enchanted to it. Also I assume you've already considered the staples like heroic intervention and teferi's protection?
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>>94299722
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>>94299752
>until the next time you untap
Now that's important.. so when I play my aggravated assault, the unphase goes away and it all return and can be target again, huh. That's an important detail I have to remember.
>>94299760
Heroic intervention sadly doesn't really work against like.. "return to owners hand".. and such,, like, AoE effects. But yes, I have that card in my deck.
I'm looking for REAL protection.
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>>94299752
You are wrong. Equipments do not get unattached.
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>>94299776
That's good to know
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>>94294466
TQ: Looking into brewing a Multani deck out of my Karn and Gitrog leftovers. Brewing a deck that gives opponent cards while playing an old jank combat dmg commander seems like a path of pain tho.

https://manabox.app/decks/u8qEWxv-Slu8fEetitWChw
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>>94299761
oh holy shit lol he's perfect
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>>94295950
It's good, but I like the chaotic aspect of coat of arms
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>>94296326
5 mana is steep in cEDH.
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>>94296326
i tried this in mishra and it just instantly makes you a target
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I don't even know if the new elf is going to be particularly*good* in the command zone, I just know he's going to be incredibly boring to play against
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kek
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>>94300016
>Azusa
>24 lands
Why even bother posting, it's only turn 3
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>>94300021
It's turn like.. 15
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>>94300009
Yeah. It is. Make mana dork bigger.
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>>94294466
sacrifice-proof can't come soon enough
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>>94295876
Sorry anon, they need to pump 100 new legendary cards each set and the pool of characters they care about is really, really low. Some repetitions and character degenerations are to be expected, please understand.
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>>94300065
what are you even doing without this?
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Are wokies seething about this yet?
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>>94300421
The ones in your head are seething and they're the only ones that matter.
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>>94300440
Thanks fren
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>>94300421
I only saw one tweet when i looked
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>>94300460
But she was always white...
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>>94300464
her artwork looked anything from white to black depending on which one
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>>94300464
I also found this and the reply made me laugh
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>>94300464
yeah
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I like the card effect, but hate the art. Are there any other commanders that give haste and enable similar play?
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>>94300779
Yes, picrel.
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>>94300787
>obvious AI slop messed up glove
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>>94300803
Sensible chuckle.
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>>94300803
Dear God i hope this is bait.

https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=%28oracle%3AHave+oracle%3Ahaste%29+%28type%3Acreature+type%3Alegendary%29+%28game%3Apaper%29
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What should my next commander be? I feel like I need a third deck.
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>>94300464
She's Italian.
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>>94300947
henzie is way cooler because you have cards that triggers on enters/attacks and enters/dying, so it triggers twice each blitz, also you don't care if people kill henzie kek
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>>94300947
If you are asking which out of those two, Henzie is probably more fun in a vacuum. Monarch stuff can be fun if you have a good playgroup for it. If those are the two decks you already have and are asking for recommendations for a third: The other two commanders are combat focused, so what about trying some sort of combo deck. Maybe one with artifacts?
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>>94300947
I built Henzie a while ago and it's fantastic. You can legitimately take it a few different routes and still have a pretty decent deck. Can go wide with tokens a la Grave Titan & Gruff Triplets,
can go copies with Jaxis, Archon of Cruelty and Balor,
can go more reanimation and mill with Breach the Multiverse, Rise of the Dark Realms and Living Death,
or make your own mix and see what you find fun and works in your group; That's what I did.

It's fun because if you're a bit bored of the fatties you have, you can swap them out for other big scary creatures your opponents really don't want to have attack or die, of which they'll do both with Henzie
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>>94300947
Henzie is incredibly fun
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>>94300009
>>94300059
Is Raggadragga the Pige cooler?
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>>94294466
>TQ
Thinking about Taeko Ninjas right now, I like his effect and the idea of making him bigger and bigger while I chip away at my opponents to either finish them off with a big swing or commander damage
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>>94301224
Do you mean Radha, Heir to Keld? Well her alongside the two other 2 cmc mana dork commanders don't really do the same thing as the elf, they ensure you have 4 mana on turn three so you can ramp into something else, while the new elf ramps and is also a combo piece.
But yeah I think they're all cooler then the elf.
But that's because I'm racist against elves who aren't Radha.
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>green is overpowered
>black is fine
How the hell did people come to this conclusion?
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>>94301309
Because black sucks
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>>94301322
but black lets me grab my good blue cards
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>>94301309
ramp powers up and deck thins
black waste mana in discarding the shit opp didnt wanted anyway
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>>94301309
In casual pods, being able to get as much value as you can like green does is "overpowered"
You can't touch lands in a casual pod, so the green ramp is forever, and people cry if you have over 3 boardwipes, so them shitting out creatures like it's toilet time after taco bell is "hard" to deal with.
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>sit down with ur-dragon junk rare tribal
>guy sees my commander and pulls out reality chip monoblue combo
>slaughters us all on turn 3 with a Sensei's Top combo
>"Oh, man, sorry guys, I thought we were playing competitive when I saw Ur-Dragon"
???
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Thinking about getting into this slightly. I don't want to be "invested" in the game but it's worth having one or two non-proxied low/mid power decks on me if I visit stores or go to conventions.
I really want to run Trinket Mage, Trophy Mage, Treasure Mage, Grand Architect and a toolbox of artifacts. I know that tutoring is gay, but this is comfy to me, I love these monoblue dudes that do artifact science to solve my problems. Commander for this feel? Doesn't have to be monoblue, every color has janky artifact support that I like.
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>>94301418
Saheeli is fun, and can be as competitive as you make it. Want to slam fatties into play, she helps, want to just shit out artifacts then refill your hand with X cost draw spells, there you have it.
I played it with the 3 tutor wizards, was fun, but I have now made it into a combo deck I only pull out when I want 70 permanents on board.
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>>94301303
He's talking about this guy, and yes he is cooler.
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>he has a stable group to play with instead of going to a LGS
you should feel good about your privilegies, social retards like me doesn't have that, anyone else?
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>>94301519
Social retards like ME don't have a playgroup, AND I'm too shy to visit my LGS. Get on my level.
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>>94301396
>wtf my gay deck made someone else play their gay deck how could this happen
>nooooo i swear my deck is actually unique and not gay :(((((((
??? I had to wait 15 minutes to post this so I hope you understand just how greatly I dislike you
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>>94300464
>White
Erm, she's ITALIAN
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>>94301452
>Saheeli, the Gifted can be your commander
Nevermind, I just changed my mind, I actually don't want to get into this.
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>>94298791
Oh shit, that seems based as fuck. I think that works on Isochron Scepter too now that you mention it.
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>>94301611
Why would that matter to you even remotely?
>have absolutely no emotional attachment to edh in any way
>seethe about something that no established players care about
Weird fucking larp
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>>94298816
Y J K
J
K
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>>94301654
I played some low-power EDH back in 2010 so I know how much fun it was before commander. You had literally no reason to think that I wasn't emotionally attached to EDH. Sorry to have wasted your time.
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Who are the most based Commanders you don't ever mind seeing in your pod?
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Talk me out of running Kormus Bell + Urborg in Kelsien
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>>94301224
Yes because he actually incentivises going in for beats instead of just sitting back and doubling your mana until you eventually stumbled upon one of your 33 craterhoof tutors
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How strong is Vihaan? I want to be a banker, but not if I'm always Archenemied
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>>94301713
Oh please do
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>>94301396
yeah hes kinda gay for pulling out against ur. urs slow asf anyway
>>94301713
it will be entertaining for about 4 seconds then everyone in your pod will be over it
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>>94301711
anything that doesn't accumulate card advantage
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>>94301711
Anything printed before June 17th, 2011
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>>94301742
"snipe my commander or i kill you also my deck has explosive treasure ramp"
even if it's not strong the reason it's not strong is because people rightfully pop his head off before he does his thing.
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>>94301710
>thinking about getting into this
The implication here is that you are getting into it for the first time (and thus logically have no emotional attachment to the format). Please stop being a histrionic faggot
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>>94301711
Stax in command zone. People hate having to adapt their gameplan, I like having to.
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>>94301711
She's shockingly popular at my local, I think there's like 4 people with her and it's never a bad time
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>>94301949
Probably helps if I post the picture
Honorable mention to Magus Lucea Kane, temur X cost tribal is always at least kinda funny to see do it's thing
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What do you guys think of this? I'm sorta just going on my Sidar maybeboard and seeing what people think of the cards I'm considering. She's got a cool foil etched version for like 20 cents, so if it's good, I may get that.
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>>94301755
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>>94301964
>cheap
>2 cost
>knight
>menace
>horrendous ability
you need several bonus forms of evasion to get her in and then you need 4 attacks to get to the tutor. are you running anything that would give her unblockable?
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>>94301971
Fun and unironically good izzet commander, I love hearing my pod audibly groan whenever I pull his box out
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>>94301984
Well, she has in-built menace, but I also am running Cover of Darkness (fear), Herald of Hoofbeats (horsemanship), and I have Wonder/Filth in my maybeboard for blanket flying/swampwalk.
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>>94302002
can you give her double strike?
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>>94302022
I have Kinsbaile Cavalier, so I can give her double strike but that's only 1 card for it. I didn't really think about how Double Strike would make her significantly faster and even double up the tutor trigger if she gets through.
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>>94302030
include her for now and cut later if she's bad, you put a tutor on a body that fits the theme
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>>94302046
Makes enough sense to me! Next up is this, I like the idea of rummaging whenever I feel like it, making it easier and my discard less combat-demanding.
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>>94301991
Ghyrson is hilarious, unfortunately I only know of 1 way to give him infect.
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>>94302002
It's still 4 turns after you've played her she will be effective. Seems a bit too slow imo unless you have ways to put counters on her
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Next thread's TQ should be to post your favourite Hildebrant artwork
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>>94302103
You know, considering it, I have Exsanguinator Cavalry and Vodalian Wave-Knight, but both will put her over 4 counters and basically remove her tutor and just make her into a beater. Kinda kills the bonus benefits on its own.
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>>94302061
>2 mana enchantment
>2 mana rummage
>2 mana sac for draw when done with it
pretty good if you use your graveyard a lot
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>>94302061
what the fuck is rummage? that's called looting
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>>94302193
>looting
draw first and then discard
>rummage
discard first and then draw
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>>94302061
Sidar wants knights in your graveyard so this seems fine
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>hyena rogue was just a common nonlegendary creature
Damn
Some people are saying hyenas might show up in Edge of Eternities though due to the last unset having hyena art so maybe we can get a hyena commander there
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>>94302230
Yeah, I agree
I'll throw it in for now
we're over 100, but trimming can come after
>>94302193
the other anon is right, I think it's named after a goblin that does it
>>94302152
I definitely try to use my graveyard a decent amount. Haakon and Sidar benefit really well from it, and I sometimes just need an outlet to toss Haakon
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>>94302250
forgot the rest of the post
next is this. I don't really gain life, but I figure a 2 drop Knight doesn't hurt if it has a pump ability. At least worth considering?
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>>94302261
do you use any knights with lifelink?
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>>94302280
Right now I have
>Call the Bloodline
lets me discard to make 1/1 lifelink vamp knights
>Elenda and Azor
I can pay life to get 1/1 lifelink boys equal to the number of cards I drew that turn
>Exsanguinator Cavalry
Has lifelink
>Breathless Knight
scaling with lifelink/flying
>Knight's Charge
I gain life whenever a knight attacks
>Akroma's Will
temp lifelink
>Smitten Swordmaster (maybeboard)
little guy with lifelink
and I wanna use Bloodthirsty Conqueror, the new Vamp Knight that is just Exquisite Blood on a creature. Looking at it, there's a surprising amount of lifegain in this deck.
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What commanders wish for death like Henzie or Kaalia?
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>>94301309
Green isn't overpowered but it's become way too well rounded. Black can't blow up artifacts and enchantments, white can't accelerate only drag others to its level, blue has a hard time answering resolved threats, and red can't draw fucking cards. Green dosent have a weakness anymore.
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>>94301711
Shattergang. I love having some symmetrical board police in the game.
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>>94302309
put it in, it also has first strike and can be buffed
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>>94302245
Does anyone else think it's weird that Morbid has changed from a cast or etb thing to an end of turn thing?
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>>94302309
No whip of erebos?
>>94302353
morbid is just the keyword for checking if something died this turn, most go off on end-step because they aren't on-death triggers but need to be a check
cast checks still exist but repetition is important for bodies like that
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>>94302353
Are you retarded? You don't understand how magic works. Morbid means something died this turn full stop
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>>94302357
>Whip of Erebos
excellent suggestion, I also found a Sorin who gives my creatures lifelink during my turn.
Next on my list is Likeness Looter
>2 cost
>gives me looting
>can become a copy of any knight in my graveyard for doubling up on effects while maintaining flying
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>>94302385
Put this in before any of the knights you've posted this thread imo.
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>>94302392
That's a fair assessment, doubling up on any of my actually super good knights will be more worthwhile than any of the new ones for now. It's in.
Next is Shay Cormac. I'm sorta torn on this because it relies entirely on specifically targeted removal, but the ability to strip off all protection is kinda based?
Right now the deck is at 103, so there will need to be trimming after, but for now that isn't as huge of a deal.
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>>94302357
>>94302359
My point is that it's use has changed from etb effects and improving your spells to now being attached to permanents that trigger every turn.
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>>94302434
Youre retarded stop. The only thing it was ever attached to was creatures dying
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>>94302434
Anon, when would you check if a creature died during that turn on a permanent? Likely at end-step so the most amount of time has passed for killing opportunity right?
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>>94302416
how much targeted kill-removal is in your deck/maybeboard?
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>>94302484
Let's see
>Murderous Rider
the adventure half is killing a creature or planeswalker
>Aryel, Knight of Windgrace
I can tap knights to destroy a creature that has less power than the amount of tapped knights
>Pentarch Paladin
Pick a color on entry, WW and tap to destroy a permanent of that color
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>>94302494
not even close to enough
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>>94302502
Fair, fair
cutting him out of the maybeboard
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>>94302508
next?
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>>94302527
dropping back down to 1cmc, I'm really torn on if I should include this. I like it, I have the timeshifted foil, it's pretty cool and lets me abuse Eminence but with so many Knights available is this necessary? It does start my creature curve lower, if nothing else.
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>>94301396
mentally ill people who haven't played edh since 2016 still think eminence is good when there isn't a single eminence commander that even approaches tournament viability
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>>94302540
disagree, inalla is still broken
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>>94302545
you can disagree, you're objectively wrong but you're free to be retarded on your own time
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>>94302533
>changeling
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>>94302533
do you have ANY knights that cost 1 to replace this?
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>>94302562
These are my current alternate options, with Student of Warfare being my favorite. Lets me use Level Up and for only 3 white mana I get a 3/3 First Strike knight.
>>94302553
Yeah yeah, I know. I don't dislike changeling, but I prefer to use creatures within the tribe as much as possible.
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>>94302551
Inalla can still very easily win. Just saw a t2 inalla win yesterday lol. If you're gunna be a smug faggot you should try to have the correct position anon
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>>94302618
>Student of Warfare
maybe good as a pet card
>Forsworn Paladin
only good for the treasures and there's better ways
>Knight of the Ebon Legion
this wasn't already in? that guy's awesome
>Foulmire Knight
dogshit
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>>94302533
I don't think do nothing cards like this have a place in the deck, sure it's a knight but it doesn't advance your game plan, remove any creatures, draw you cards, or do anything else then be an unblockable knight.
Just take the small hit to your mana curve and put an extra piece of removal in.
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>>94302647
See, my only real reason is that because of Eminence, it gives me access to looting with 0 consequences since he can't be blocked. But you're probably right, I could do better and also afford to just have more options for responses/removal.
Thanks, anon, I'll put him back in my black binder
>>94302642
Ebon legion/Student of Warfare will be included for now then, I think. I'll cut the other two.
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>>94302656
what next? you've hijacked this thread entirelyso i'm a little invested
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>>94302680
Wintermoor Commander. This one I've cut before because while it's a cool defensive option, the Indestructible on attack is just okay.
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>>94302690
you use this mostly to block so its okay, but not worth the slot
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What are some good wincon in a simic control deck?
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>>94302630
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>>94302690
doesn't advance the gameplan, is just a knight
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>>94302690
i think you should use this, replace some other knight with no abilities or benefits because this at least turns into a wall
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>>94302768
stupid take
>>94302743
>>94302715
objectively correct takes
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>>94302722
https://youtu.be/vZCzafMIdps?si=VavM4-2xhzRSLmRi

https://mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=1209&meta=263&f=cEDH&color_id=&show=pop

It is free to not be retarded anon.
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>>94302783
>>94302768
>>94302743
>>94302715
Well, the "vote" seems slanted more towards no. I'll cut it for now, but keep it in mind for the future if I need to swap something else in.
Next is Adeline, mostly because a good friend gave me a foil copy of her. Not sure how worth it she is for a deck where her tokens aren't the right creature type.
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Hello I would like build a Ruric Thar deck, does anyone have a decklist so I can get ideas
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>>94302783
>when this attacks
>ermmmm this is a blockers!!!!
>>>>>>objectively correct take
I hate bad players so fucking much.
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>>94302814
hey retard, it buffs its own toughness and has deathtouch, the ONLY good thing it does is be a blocker. your attackers dont need indestructible unless your fucking stupid and attacking wrong
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>>94302811
Adeline belongs in human tribal, not knight tribal
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>>94302835
*typal
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>>94302823
And yet still the card promotes attacking with it. You are objectively wrong anon, it's very clearly a card to attack with lmao. You bad players jumping through hoops to misuse a card and act smug about it will never not be funny. His commander literally has an damage trigger and this helps you get it off safely lol
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>>94302840
>swinging with a 2/8 instead of using it to lock out combat from others
>for a useless keyword that only benefits you if you're attacking bad
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>>94302811
I don't think attack triggers are that good, especially since the resurrection effect triggers on combat damage.
Something with a good ETB like Cavalier of Night or Cavalier of Dawn would be better as they both have good ETBs, are knights, and are good targets for discarding to the graveyard.
Additionally, Cavalier of Night can resurrect a 3 cmc or less creature from your graveyard on it's death.
Nim Raiser is another good Knight for this deck as even though he can't ressurect he refills your hand with another creature with 3 cmc or less. There's also Sky Hussar which can untap your creatures after you've swung out and can forecast to craw you cards.
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>>94302804
>thoracle combo
oh so you're just baiting. I thought you were gonna make an actual argument about eminence but I see you're another dishonest retard
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>>94302811
Adeline is fucking amazing, throw her in immediately.
>>94302840
>>94302814
>actually wasting one of the best blockers in the type swinging
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>>94302848
Anon if you think every attack is always 1 sided and beneficial then you are objectively a nogames retard lmao
>>94302853
>one of the best blockers
What an absurd statement lmao
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>>94302690
Honestly at this point you should just link the whole decklist, its easier to reccomend cut/adds when we have a scope for your average mana value and what you currently have
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>>94302852
So the video I linked doesn't win via thoracle and the one winning list i shared of Inalla, although it has thoracle has 10+ other winning lines that you were clearly too dogshit to pick up on lmao, and he didn't win with it but that's irrelevant.
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Do you ever stubbornly continue to play underpowered cards that should be cut just because you like the art/ nostalgic memories of good times with the card back when it was considered OP?
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>>94302870
He posted this picture a couple threads ago.
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>>94302877
stoneforge is still a really good card.

ETB tutor a card is powerful, let alone it also cheats out equipment.
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>>94302851
You've got a point, if I'm resurrecting her she won't be doing anything until the next turn at bare minimum.
>Cavalier of Night/Dawn
I actually own a copy of Dawn, and another form of Removal tied to a body might be a great choice. I may have to pick up Night as well. I think there's a blue one, but I forget what it does off-hand.
>Nimraiser Paladin
The only thing keeping me away from this is the Toxic effect, which people throw hissy fits over since they hate poison even if it isn't a real victory method in the deck.
>Sky Hussar
That's actually one I'd never heard of or maybe scrolled past, Forecast is a neat mechanic, so I'll throw him in the maybeboard for sure
>>94302880
ayyy someone actually saved one of my deck pics?
>>94302870
I've got it linked up here >>94298526
I forgot I linked that before i went to bed though, so it makes sense it got lost in the shuffle since this conversation is new
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>>94302804
by your own stats, she's quite awful
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>>94298329
Anon... Living hive was printed in 2003
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Squirrelbros, how we feeling?
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>>94298897
I don't have a moxfield or archidekt but I run her as a control-oriented voltron deck, using her attack trigger to clear threats via swords/path while giving her unblockable via infiltrate or shadow rift. She dodges board wipes with cards like haystack and light the way or unsummon; any bounce spell is extremely good with her because you can add to the number of cards exiled with kick counters while simultaneously avoiding commander tax. Win lines in my deck:
>Leering Emblem for commander damage
>Murmuration and Talrand to peck people to death
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>>94302894
The Blue one isn't as good as the other's but I don't think he's bad.
But when he's competing for space alongside the other two I don't think he makes the cut, removing Consecrated Sphinx for one of the Cavliers is also what I'd recommend, he's hard to cast and you can't get him into play using Sidar's ability.
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>>94302894
ill address as much of your maybeboard as i can at once
>Black Market Connections
objectively broken, include
>Knight of the Mists
pet card alert, cut it
>Murderous Rider
I like this because it's both removal and a lifelink creature
>Oathsworn Knight
this one is so fucking weird? works really good against infect/wiher and benefits from your other counter cards
>Patrician Geist
i was about to say this was cool but it's spirit tribal and not knight tribal, how often do you cast from your graveyard?
>Pulse of the Grid
good, use it
>Sanguine Guard
cut
>Unfulfilled Desires
1 mana + 1 life to loot isnt awesome but pretty okay
>Zhalfirin Lancer
bad
>Ancient Excavation
if it didnt have cycling id say cut it but since it does, keep it
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>>94302894
With your current card draw i'd be a bit careful, you seem to mostly have looting effects which while it fills your graveyard, doesn't give you hand positive card draw, i'd probably pull a little back on all that and add in more true hand card advantage just due to the fact your commander is guranteed to give you a looting effect
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>>94302930
Huh, brainstorm on ETB. That's kinda neat, the Scry and shuffle in is.. interesting? I worry about cutting Consecrated Sphinx, but at the same time it really is just a value card and not there because of any direct synergy.
>>94302933
I appreciate the input is culling my list
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>>94302954
You know, you're right. Outside of Consecrated Sphinx, Teferi's Ageless, the flipwalker battle, and like 2 other cards, I really do only loot/rummage.
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>>94302540
>doesn't approach tournament viability
>>94302902
>her having wins in tournaments somehow is an argument against me
Genuinely confused by what you're trying to argue here, these are genuinely good numbers lol
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>>94298526
>Island Sanctuary
why have i never heard of this card
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>>94302980
I only found it just now when searching for "if you would draw a card" effects. Hoping I could double up on some stuff, but it seems like I can't as much as I'd have wanted.
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>>94302063
>What's Grafted Exoskeleton
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>>94302916
Lathril is in this set too lemao
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>>94302968
Locthwain Lancer and Midnight Reaper have on theme types and can draw you cards, although it's on creature death. There's also Faithful Mending, Esper Charm, and Quick Study.
One of the cut knights can also be replaced by a reanimate effect like Dread Return, Unburial Rites, wouldn't hurt to have one or two of them in emergency. For more general use there's also Obscura Charm, and for removal there's Void Rend.
A note on Void Rend, it bypasses Ward since Ward is a counter effect.
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>>94303018
>Faithful Mending
Both creatures you listed and this absolutely stick out to me. Threw in Dread Return and Victimize, trading out one knight or even a token for 2 knights could be the difference between a small combat phase and a huge one.
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>>94298526
you should add containment construct and currency converter
I have both in my raffine deck which seems to be very similar to black knight man and they do a lot of work
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>>94303018
I'll piggyback and say that Notion rain could also fit in, and one of my favorite reanimation spells is currently Incarnation technique, being able to mill 10 and bring back 2 creatures is pretty big value, and its never a truly dead card because it can be cast even wtih an empty graveyard
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>>94303053
>>94303047
lots of really strong suggestions today, i have no idea how I'm gonna get this down to 100 lmao
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>>94303047
Sheeeit I didn’t even know about this guy. I wonder if I can find a spot in my mono red deck. I love red but I hate having to constantly discard to do the same shit other colors do for free
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
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>>94303094
another thing, your deck is already often hand-negative, Tortured Existence requires you to discard a creature. If you don't have any in-hand, it's a dead draw.
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>>94303126
haha yeah bro epic reference! cool card for mtg puchase now
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>>94301964
>What do you guys think
that you're a fag lol
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>>94303216
I'd say making this comment is a waste of time, but I'm going to assume you don't have much going on in your life to do otherwise.
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>>94303216
you got me
>>94303137
you make a good point, i'll toss it and put it back in my binder. I trimmed a few more of the higher cmc effects off of my Maybeboard but I'm having a lot of trouble committing to removing Markov Dreadknight. I really wish it had Lifelink, and 3 mana to discard a card and getting 2 +1/+1 counters might not be worth the squeeze.
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>>94303138
Shut up ya joyless twat
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>>94303223
And I would probably make the poignant comment about how you're commenting about me, but let's not be Escher's Eternal Jackass.
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>>94303241
here's some rough cuts for your deck, I can't get it down to 100 but here you go
>Midnight Reaper
>Murderous Rider
>Patrician Geist
>Feast of Sanity
>Locthwain Lancer
and from the main deck
>Path to Exile
>Knight of the Ebon Legion
>Consecrated Sphinx
assuming these last ones are pet cards
>Dauthi Mercenary
>Sworn Defender
>Stromgald Cabal
>Order of the Sacred Torch
>Knight of the Holy Nimbus
>Student of Warfare
>Stillmoon Cavalier
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>>94303352
>cut path to exile in the year of our lord and overpowered creatures 2024
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>>94303352
I don't think he should cut Murderous Rider, it still a on theme removal option that is still a creature so he can recur it easier.
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>>94303377
when it dies it goes onto the bottom of your library, he can only recur it if he discards it
and he shouldnt discard it so he can use it for removal there's no way to get it in the graveyard after
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>>94303126
Couldn't agree more.
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>>94303383
He runs so little removal as is running less isn't a good idea, yeah it shuffles back into the library, but it's sill one of his few dpieces of removal.
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>>94303404
it doesnt shuffle, it becomes the bottom card
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>>94303404
Cavalier of Dawn is an overall better card.
>Can kill more than just creatures/planeswalkers
>doesn't cost life
>can go to the graveyard
>has an on-death benefit
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>>94303478
>>94303478
>>94303478
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>>94303334
>anon shits on the floor
>guy says hey maybe you shouldn't shit on the floor
>anon says heh we'll maybe you shouldn't comment about me sitting on the floor that's just as bad!
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>>94303548
>my comment is somehow meant to be above you, and thus not shitting on the floor
I'll take your word for it bud
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>>94302877
I would always rather play an underpowered card that I like than a powerful card that I hate.
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>>94300421
she's a cute flapper, why seethe



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