standard burn soon edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-26-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-scheduleMetagame Mentor: The Scariest Standard Strategies in Duskmourn:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-scariest-standard-strategies-in-duskmourn>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>Previously:>>94289559>TQif you could choose any archtype in the game's history to be viable in standard, what would it be?
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>>94296482putting the TND in D&T
I still can't figure out what card this is censored from. calling all autists to helpI think it has some rodent eyes but it's not from bloomburrow I think
So, what are some alternatives to MtG? Doesn't have to be a card game. Just something with interesting fatnasy worldbuilding that has enough self-respect to stick to its original ideas
>>94296472>TQThe game is healthiest when Red Deck Wins is viable
For anyone who uses Moxfield, I discovered you can automatically make the site use original printings of cards by going to this pagehttps://www.moxfield.com/account/settings/preferencesAnd using either prefer:oldest or not:reprint in the Scryfall search queries. There might be a combination to get old frame reprints in addition to cards that were originally printed in the old frame and have since recieved reprints.>TQOops all spells or BWR Aristocrats
COMPLETE THE CARD.
>>94296544The part at the top is going to be something involving reconfigure and scales with the loyalty counters on it+ will create a creature token of some kind- will attach itself to a creature
>>94296508Yeah, because Standard is doing great with RDW getting T2 wins
Vanilla creatures are so funny because the statlines basically don't matter because they do nothing. On the plus side, new vanilla creature.
>>94296544Mana value: 1Static ability: Your opponents can't cast spells from their hands.+3: Draw 2 cards-1: Exile all permanents your opponents control face-down-5: You win the match (not just this game)4 starting loyalty
Also this thing's back.
>>94296544Annoying static ability+[] draw a card-[] remove something -[] win the game
Also, pig.
>>94296474>>94296480ENTER (although its talking more about design than flavor or worldbuilding)https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/stages-of-design>The Second Stage of Design (Mirage through Prophecy)>For the color pie, Joel worked with me, in conjunction with the designers and Creative team, to start identifying which abilities went with which colors and to start crafting strengths and weaknesses for the colors that we could consistently follow.>The Third Stage of Design (Invasion through Saviors of Kamigawa)>The third stage began when Bill Rose became head designer. Bill's biggest push was to give the block more of an identity. Early blocks would have two new mechanics, usually unconnected, and a mechanical throughline. Starting with Invasion, blocks were built around a theme. The mechanics were chosen to reinforce that theme. Invasion was a multicolor block. Odyssey was a graveyard block. Onslaught was a typal block. Mirrodin was an artifact block. Champions of Kamigawa was a top-down, flavor-centric block.>The Fifth Stage of Design (Scars of Mirrodin through Rivals of Ixalan)>The fifth stage involved adapting this idea of evoking the emotion of playing into the act of design. In addition, it had us rethinking how we use mechanical components. We no longer made graveyard sets. We made sets where the graveyard theme was one component that we built the larger feel of the design out of. For example, Innistrad captured the feel of gothic horror through the themes of graveyard, typal, and making death matter within gameplay.
>>94296544+2 Create a food token
>>94296583>The Seventh Stage of Design (Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty through ???)>One of the most frequent messages I got was "let's return to Kamigawa."I would always answer the same way. I would tell them it was a tough sell to the people who get sign-off on new sets. The Champions of Kamigawa block was one of the worst-selling large sets of all time. It had the lowest ratings of any market research we'd done at the time. Why go back to Kamigawa when there are so many other popular planes we could visit?We decided to make a Japanese-themed set based on pop culture, something modern with tropes that we hoped were more universal. The original plan was that it would be a new plane and not Kamigawa for all the reasons I listed above. But I remembered all the feedback from my blog, so I worked hard, along with a host of other people, to make the setting Kamigawa. Then, something interesting happened. It was a runaway homerun set. Players loved it!Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty's success made everyone sit up and think. It upended a lot of conventional wisdom. It emboldened us to be a bit more radical in our thinking. A proposal that we return to Lorwyn, which had sat collecting dust, was greenlit. We got more emboldened with complexity. We started making more mechanics deciduous. We got more comfortable bringing back old mechanics in small doses, what we call "cameos." We'd done these in Commander decks, why not at high rarities in premier sets?This paralleled a phenomenon that was going on elsewhere in R&D. Aaron Forsythe had pitched an idea of bringing other properties to Magic, what we now call Universes Beyond. For years, we'd specifically chosen not to do that. But as our audience grew, we found ourselves pushing the boundaries of fantasy and genre. The idea of what Magic could be stretched and expanded.Looks like that flavor autists were close in their flavor arguments almost lining up with how Magic views itself internally
>>94296588"We didn't anticipate people using the +1 ability to turn their opponent's lands into clue tokens".
>>94296583No more mistakes like Kamigawa. The people demand more minotaurs.
>>94296583so for a second time it's kamigawa after all these years where it all went wrong coming back to haunt
>>94296600>>94296605>>94296619>If you supported Neon Dynasty you are directly responsible for the current state of Magic the Gathering.
>>94296600>Everything started with KamigawaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>94296626I meant the og kamigawa. where they started top-down design
>>94296544CMC 4Etb equip to a legendary creature, it becomes a PW in addition to its other typesif equipped creature takes damage, instead prevent that damage and remove that many loyalty counters from CARDNAMECARDNAME can be your commander +1 equipped creature gets a +1/+1 counter and prevent all damage that creature would receive this turn-1 scry 1 draw a card-2 exile somethingStarting loyalty 4
Oh boy, I sure do love how the next five years of standard will have a power level floor higher than most standards' peak since Urza saga. FIRE away, baby!
>>94296657That just makes it worse, it was Kamigawa All Along and into the modern day is the shadow behind Magic's corruption.
>>94296681>standard, modern and pioneer will have the same meta in your lifetimecan't wait
>>94296690It's happened before, the OG titans fucking annihilated proto-pioneer, modern, and standard.
>>94296710ooh yeah and oko too lmao
>>94296495Looked like squirrels to me but "atag:squirrel" didn't have any matches
>>94296562That is one big nigga
>>94296716>Check out my new Simic deck>Uro>Oko>Once Upon a Time>Veil of Summer>Standard? No I play Modern what do you mean?
CHOOSE YOUR BLUNT ROTATION>Urza BlockUSG/ULG/UDS>Mirrodin blockSOM/MBS/NPH >FIRE blockWAR/ELD/IKO
>>94296600>We got more emboldened with complexity. We started making more mechanics deciduous. We got more comfortable bringing back old mechanics in small doses, what we call "cameos."This sounds so nice, but Modern Horizons taught me that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
>>94296810I liked fire block because embercleaving niggas made them seethe hard as fuck. Also I liked mutate and had a jank mutate storm deck
>>94296958>We got more emboldened with complexity>Enter the Dungeon, Take the Initiative, The Ring Tempts You, You get 2 Stickers, Open an Attraction, It Becomes DayI WANT ROSEWATER FUCKING LYNCHED!!!
>ghanti lord of luxury>hit his housemeld>housemeld his etaliyou know... every once in a while you can still play magic: the gathering as richard garfield intended.
>play most formats>feel like getting off my butt to make a Megatron deck to play with edhonly friends after seeing TFOne>see all the news about how half of MTG will be Universes Beyond now for every format and just want to quitI know I was part of the problem but there has to be more like me out there who think that it's just too much
>>94296555The upper limit should be "possible, but not feasable".
>>94296544It is an equipment? I dunno, some slightly updated version of Umezawa’s Jite
>>94296661>equip to a legendary creature, it becomes a PW in addition to its other types>if equipped creature takes damage, instead prevent that damage and remove that many loyalty counters from CARDNAMEHonestly not bad.>CARDNAME can be your commanderI wouldn't put it past them at this point.
>>94296472>TQLantern Control
>>94296562>not all green pipsgarbage
>>94296562Good to see some Vivien Irwin again>>94297119It's already a copy of Gigantosaurus, they can't make it too obvious.
>>94297111>I control the swarm. If you strike me down there will be nothing left to control their hunger.>fucking dies>1 (ONE) bug takes his placeSo much for the swarm but if he left more than one token he'd have to cost more.
I like the normal art of Koma better.
>was actually considering consooming a foundation collector's box for the anime art cards>guy on yt opened 34 and got an avg of 1 a boxWelp guess I'm not doing that now
>>94297111Good color shift.
>>94297161This art doesn't make Koma seem that big. There's nothing for scale.
>>94296544>I’m a 1/1 cat warrior >my sword, that is equipped, has a planeswalker spark>the enemy wizard is directing a zombie to attack my sword>I block the attack on my sword, while wielding my sword.Feels wrong. I guess there’s going to be some kind of reconfigure type ability so it gives planeswalker status to equipped creature?Otherwise it’s a fancy Jitte
Based on the uncommon multicolor cards the draft archetypes areW/U is flyingU/B is thresholdB/R is raid.R/G is power 4 or greaterG/W is countersW/B is lifegainU/R is instant & sorceriesB/G is MorbidR/W is aggroG/U is high cost cards.
>>94297204Yeah, probably transfers its abilities and counters to the equipped creature or something, and maybe can't use its abilities unless equipped.
>>94297218>the uncommon multicolor cards the draft archetypes are
>>94297218>W/B is lifegain>U/B is threshold>R/W is aggro>U/R is instants & sorceriesTHEY LITERALLY JUST FUCKING DID THAT TWO SETS AGOIN THE SAME FUCKING COLORSTHOSE ARE THE SAME FUCKING ARCHETYPES AS BLB WOTCTHEY'RE LITERALLY JUST EXACTLY THE SAME
>>94297218>R/W is aggro>U/R is instants & sorceriesGrim, these colors have potential alternate flavor and alternate mechanical identities which have been explored before but Wizards can't help themselves now can they?We're really only going to have to wait until next year's return to Strixhaven for more good W/R cards that aren't just aggro and combat tricks.
>>94297292>>94297273>The Foundations core set meant to help new players understand the basics of Magic has basic archetypesYou can't be that shocked.
>>94297273Have you never played a core set before? They're not going to go for wild stuff.
>>94297273Haven't they explicitly said they do that? Having 4 of the 10 draft archetypes be something blatantly recycled instead of any attempt at something fresh?If anything, the surprising part would be Foundations doing anything new at all. Reasonably you should expect the set to be a bunch of reprints, functional reprints, and extremely basic archetypes.
>>94297273Since Foundations is a core set they are going to do the most archetypes of the color pair.Threshold is also now the default self-mill option to limit confusion.
>>94297273Sorry, I don't read schizoese
>>94297218The current landfall cards for G/U drafting are 5 mana or higher so strategy seems to be to ramp into them then use the lands you top deck to trogger landfall.
>>94297116Not real magic, fuck off
>>94297435But it is, cry about it faggot
>>94297435If banding isn't magic, then you're a faggot
>>94297468>>94297480It literally says "Arena" right there on the card you idiot zoomersGo back to /vg/ if you care that much about nu-magic baka
Oh dang, Greg Hildebrant died.
>>94296562If you showed this to me in 1994 I would have lost my mind
>>94296562>>94297620What mana:stat ratio does a vanilla creature need before it's playable in standard, pioneer, modern and legacy? The closest analogue I can think of is Phyrexian Dreadnaught, a 1 mana (plus stifle/torpor effect) 12/12 but with trample instead of truly vanilla.
>>94297574You know those are actual cards they printed and gave away as a mail in offer for buying the novels back in the 90s, right? There was a novel named ARENA. The fact that you thought it meant the online Arena shows you're the actual zoomer.
>>94297632Bro it was 1994 we didn't give a shit about 'standard, pioneer, modern and legacy' We played at lunch at school and thought Lord of the Pit was OP
>>94297574That dragon was given out at dragoncon as a promo in 1994 you stupid fucking child. It exists in paper.
>>94297574You're a moron
>>94297642No they didn't know and that's why I posted it. For a little history lesson. For the record, those novels weren't half bad
>>94297574Shut the fuck up zoomer retard
>>942976321:4 power, minimum. Delver is a 1 mana 3 power flier that gets cut now.
>>94297662They weren't even born when those cards were printed and he had the audacity to call other people zoomers lol
>>94297574Look up Arena and Nalanthi Dragon on TCG Player or Card Kikedom or Star City Jews and then tell me those aren't real cards you absolute buffoon of a child
>>94297642>>94297653>>94297654>>94297666>retards still fall for bait this obvious in 2024
>>94297682>haha I was only pretending to be retarded i trolled you guys goodfuck off
>instant speed 4 mana reanimation >but only for zombies damn
>>94297632Past like 4 mana, it literally doesn't matter. Before that... Wild Nacatl still sees play as a 1 mana 3/3, yeah?
>>94297707>textless post of nothing but an image of the card "Arena">someone plays into the obvious joke>every sperg on this board loses their mindholy shit lmao you guys really weren't joking about the autism
>>94297732>Deadly Plot>Doesn't have plot
>>94297747/tg/ boomers are something else lol
>>94297732>4 mana shitty Hero's Downfall>or 4 mana really shitty Reanimate
>>94297747I don't even care and I posted the fucking image
>>94297773Flexibility tax
>TQI like aggro/control á DelverGoing to the FDN prerelease, it's funny how there can be long stretches with 0 mtg, but as soon as one of the dudes goes "prerelease? Cube?" People are almost always game. Mtg is a pretty cool game. I'm also blessed with spike-type friends, not a commander deck in sight.
>>94297732Zombies are shit though, there's no big dumb ones to cheat out like there are for vampires. Plus coming in tapped makes the instant speed a lot weaker.
>>94298566>No big zombies>Posts a fuckhuge zombieOk anon, time to stop Halloween drinking! There's always next year...
>>94298566It seems better to return zombies with ETB effects.
>>94298598Thraxishitdar isn't half as good as vein ripper or Xander or even Ghalta+Mavren. It's not about the P/T.
>>94298566I plan to reanimate halo skaab over and over again
>>94298620No disagreement there but that is a huge zombie nonetheless. That would kill 6 normal humans without even breaking a sweat
I feel like most people don't know about this card because of the product it comes from.
>>94297434The landfall cards.
>>94298619>>94298641Well those are only legal in legacy and vintage, so unless you're planning on running a 4 cmc reanimate there, it's a nonstarter.
>>94296472>Power creep is not a thing>Lightning bolt for all my Ops at the table>for the price of one Lightning bolt>bUt ItS nOt PoWeR cReEp GuYs!
>>94298641What product is that?
>>94298652I would have found it cool if it was a Elf Giant, where its a Giant with an elf on his shoulder pointing him towards a direction
>>94298655But we've been dealing with LB from the very beginning so how is that powercreep?
>>94298665its power scales with how many ops you have at the table. also, Lightning Bolt is rare now and this is uncommon.how is that not power creep
>>94298656The Ravnica themed Clue game.
>>94298669You may not be aware of this but commander isn't real magic.
>>94298669Ah, I didn't look at the card, I assumed it was LB, my bad, apologies for my ignorance
>>94298665now that im reading it a second time, I notice it only targets opposing players. there's a bit of nuance then. its still power creep, but not in the same way I originally thoug, thank you for making me check twice
>>94298674That's gotta be cool and I don't really care for clue
>>94298652I wish UG got the Lorehold treatment, even the other schools at least tried to deviate from the usual stuff. I don't even remember how "ramp and draw and big spells" became the norm for it, most of the other pairs got theirs from Ravnica but Simic were about counters and shit.
>>94298682Nah, I didn't notice either, it's cool, man
>>94298680Not according to SALES. You do know what money is, right, for a company? It basically keeps them afloat
>>94298687Rule 1 of /tg/ observed>be excellent to eachotheryou're not as much of a faggot as the rest of us, anon, keep at it, maybe you'll become This Guy one day.
>>94298690Well, I've been called a faggot at least 50 times today so the jury is still out on that one. I'm old and I know manners, where applicable, is all
>>94298685It's because blue and don't share a big overlap. Hexproof isn't something you want to focus so they went with big spells because that's what they share in the common rarity. Green needs big spells as a ramp pay off and blue needs them for the control payoff.
>>94297480i prefer Flanking to banding, also, i'd argue enlist is a less convoluted version of Banding
>>94298705I like your chart. It seems like the more disparity between foci, the more effective you can generally be. Or am I just massively wrong
>>94298706I did take awhile to grok banding and none of friends ever figured it out wholly which have me a big advantage for like a month. But you're not wrong in any way
>>94298705I think keyword counters would be a good space for them to fill. They're the two colors care the most about growth and adaptability, gaining new abilities fits right into that. The green side can maybe focus on giving creatures keyword counters while the blue side focuses on getting bonuses for having counters/keywords or moving counters around. White/green has usually been more about +1/+1 counters, while black sometimes gets this stuff for no reason that I can tell.
>>942986691 times 3 is 3 and this can't target creatures, commandoid.
>>94297632It's not really about cost to stat ratio. A 1-mana 4/4 with no downside would be absolutely playable,, an 8-mana 32/32 would be garbage that will give you laugh for whole 3 seconds before you throw it into your obligatory shoebox full of garbage cards. The cheaper the cards, the more stats matter. Everything costing 6 or more must have immediate effect on the field or give you +fucktillion in card advantage, big numbers are secondary.
>>94298685Drawing cards, ramping and playing bigger cards than your opponent was UG's deal since Alpha. It's literally THE drawing color and THE ramping color. It's just so happens that these two elements of the game have especially positive synergy with each other - to play your big cards you need mana and you need to have these big cards in hand. Also having more mana helps playing more draw spells, too.
>>94297273They basically have 1 or 2 draft archetype for each color pair they cycle through. Like W/B is either lifegain or aristocrat, RG is either ramp or aggro focused on big creature etc... and sometimes you have one archetype a bit different in a set, like how UR in Duskmourn was room control.
>>94296780Remember when you could make a viable modern deck with nothing but cards banned from standard?
>>94298688I would rather the game go back to its popularity level from 15 years ago than have the disastrous effects of coommander’s popularity on card design. We should have gatekept harder and we didn’t. The only good thing to come of this is that standard staples are the cheapest they’ve ever been while literal unplayable garbage has the huge price tag
>>94296710>proto-pioneerThe titans came out when Modern was new, in fact it was that Standard season that SCG bought all the fetchlands then started running Modern events and coverage after making it prohibitively expensive to play the best deck at the time.
>>94297434The UB one should've been Psychatog.The only card that has ever made Threshold fun.
>>94296544>+1 Create a 1/1 Thopter token with flying, then populate>-2 Exile a non-artifact permanent>-9 You gain an emblem which gives all your artifact creatures X/X, where X is the number of artifacts you control. Artifact tokens you control gain indestructible.
>>94296600>Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty's success made everyone sit up and think. It upended a lot of conventional wisdom. It emboldened us to be a bit more radical in our thinking. A proposal that we return to Lorwyn, which had sat collecting dust, was greenlit. We got more emboldened with complexity. We started making more mechanics deciduous. We got more comfortable bringing back old mechanics in small doses, what we call "cameos."neat
>>94299191>I would rather the game go back to its popularity level from 15 years ago than have the disastrous effects of coommander’s popularity on card design.anon edh has been a format since the early 2000s or so, I started playing in 2009 because a friend of mine wanted to play edh, then I did drafting for a few years until I stopped in like, 2013 or 2014 or so.
>>94299496It may have existed, but 15 years ago edh was still “my 100 cards worth of unplayable garbage vs your 100 cards worth of unplayable garbage” that did not affect the design of other formats. I have no problems with casual spergs having a way to play, the problem starts when standard sets are 90% commander bulk and 10% cards that are relevant for real formats
>>94299524Standard was always a joke and modern being turned into modern horizons was unrelated to edh, they just wanted to get modern players to buy shit (and they succeeded). I honestly have no idea what goes on in vintage/legacy and pauper's fine, the only format that was significantly affected by edh was standard and standard was always a shit format.
>>94298682read it a third time and you'll notice it's a sorcery, which make it even worse than bolt.If you ignore shitty format, the one upside it has over bolt is being able to go to dome even through hexproof (and being "yet another bolt" for some formats)
>74 standard legal cards that can only be found in beginner boxAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA(they won't see play, BUT I don't like this still)
>>94296755meah I tried many rodent species and no dice
>>94299669It's only a problem if one of them becomes relevant, but if that happens it will become a BIG problem. You'd think they would stop doing it, but they can't help themselves.
>pauper's fineFUCKINITIATIVE
>>94299791this. it was so fucking obvious they weren't thinking at all making the mechanic>uhh what if snowbally effect that will win you the game>BUT>uninteractable>just play initiative yourself lmao
>>94298655>>94296472It should have been 3 damage to each player. Making it symmetrical would actually add some match-ups/deckbuilding limitations so you'd have to think where to put this and it would make it a more interesting commander card to boot. Win-win.
Alright what's the real splinter twin deck of standard right nowtrailblazer + duplimancy?cursed recording + beseech the mirror?trumpeting carnosaur + molten duplication?innkeeper's talent + vraska?
I don't know about you guys, but it sort of feels like Magic's fat lady has sung with how the game is going to be from now. I got my first cards back when Tempest was new and have always enjoyed playing it, but this new shit. It's like a different game. It's Fortnite and sci fi shit.Only a matter of time before they change the art on the back of the card to "reflect how the game is now". They already did it with the logo six or seven years ago. I will be 0% surprised if the back of the card gets changed to that modern bland shit too.
>>94296562Its still a bad precedent
>>94299941they can change it to a picture of spongebob raping sephiroth for all i care the worst crime was changing the front two decades ago
>>94299267You mean pioneer. Modern has been a thing since like 2008.And yes, proto-pioneer because it was just conceptually catching on in the community and hasn't been sanctioned by wotc yet.
>>94299708Seems more likely that the scryfall taggers overlooked this card than for it to be anything other than a rodent
>>94300034I feel that way too. looked through the whole bloomburrow card gallery both on gatherer and scryfall tho and it wasn't there so no idea which set it could be from
How you feel knowing that in 2025 Pre-Modern will be the only real format worth playing?
>>94300042nobody will play pre-modern so who caresthe ONLY good format left in the game will be limited
>>94300004>Modern has been a thing since like 2008you mean extended? modern wasn't officially a format until late 2011
>>94299915I untap, pay 3WW and melt down all your mob of fedora wearing clones into a single phyrexian incubate token, gg
>>94299564>standard was always a shit formatzoomer detected, opinion discarded
>watch literally any legacy video>Hey whats up youtube today we're gonna be playing [unplayable dogshit card] in legacy! It's an underrated sweet card that's good against [actually good playable magic card]>It's just a normal deck with a meme card thrown in>Ok let's see how it does>Gets his buttcheeks clapped violently, refuses to sideboard out the useless clickbait card which predictably does absolutely nothing every round
>>94300126I'm 33 anon, standard was never good.
>>94300159Eldraine standard was great
>>94300183now that's a funny joke
>>94300042Too expensive
>>94300191https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/november-18-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement
>smacks lips and dabsAYO WHYBOI WE WUZ KANGS N SHEEEEIT, WHATCHU THANK WEEZ WUZ GON DO? DIS OUR KULLAH NOW AIGHT?LAWDY WE OWN DIS KULLAH
>>94300203yes he was eventually banned thanks for noticing anonstandard still wasn't good at the time, though I suppose it was the 'best' from whenever I paid attention to the format
>>94300205I am fatigued
>>94300219you can't do that
>>94300215He was legal for like 40 days it didn't really kill the format
>>94300215nta but pre-ban eldraine standard was a ton of fun, though I also tend to like tier 0 formats
talking about uro and the titans last night made me have a dream where maro and gang were aliens that tried to conquer the world by printing their real appearances on magic cards so people would be more accepting of them once the reveal would happenI might be too easily influenced
>>94300249>Aliens look this this
>>94300258that's not a titan
Yes standard is dead in paper but Arena is going strong, don't pretend otherwise
>>94300051Alright, more recent than I thought but still long before theros 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONfT7xR7QvAentomb is gonna get banned it's so fucking over
>>94300410I cant afford Standard in Arena. Wildcards are too expensive.
>>94300528naw their economy is so fucking retarded wildcards aren't expensive, they are unobtainablethe rate for wildcards/packs purchased for $$$ is so wildly abysmal compared to the rate you get them for free / drafting / etc that it makes no sense to pay for them, but the amount you'd need to actually assemble a wide number of decks is absurdly prohibitive.Nobody is going to go pay $200 per deck for arena when you can make like 5-10 decks for free.
>>94300511>entomb is gonna get bannedI hope so. Reanimator being a 12-card package you can just shove anywhere is stupid, Reanimator is supposed to be a deck with strengths and weaknesses, not as a side plan in a tempo shell.
Why do so many magic players paint their fingernails in my LGS? Are they in the early phases of transitioning or is it becoming normal for men to do so?
>>94300710>it becoming normal for men to do so?it's a leftist thing, don't worry
>>94296958>good intentions.kek, good one you naive faggot
>>94296544Rules question: if a planeswalker is also another type of permanent, like an artifact here, and it runs out of loyalty counters completely, does it remain in play?
>>94300798No, it's destroyed since it's still a planeswalker with zero loyalty counters.
>>94300798I believe it's a ruling that makes that the case if it's a planeswalker regardless of its other types, so no. It's why, for example, DSK's Kaito has the "as long as he has loyalty counters on him" rider, because if he somehow has 0 on him while just as a creature, he'll stop being a creature, pop back to being a planeswalker, then die. The Gideons that had "still a planeswalker" riders didn't need that, though they usually prevented damage when a creature anyway.
>>94296562Power creep just wilding It's like Hasbro fired everyone and hired only those guys that make super busted anime characters into magic cards
Dunno how many people here care, but Greg Hildebrandt just passed away. The Hildebrandt brothers did some art for MtG including the Tales of Middle-earth Commander deck
>>94301115Fwasn't that art just reused from elsewhere though?
>>94301129Yeah, the LOTR Hildebrant art was re-used from other stuff they did to promote the books and movies and such I think.Greg did do this old classic for Magic, though.
>>94301151his brother Tim did mtg artwork until he died.the brothers are famous in the "nerd" scene.
>>94301115>kenrith as TheodenBullshit, Theoden is red-and-white horse guy, he is boros in both practical and spiritual terms.
>>94301184Yeah, Greg actually did some new Magic art for WOE for last year, even.
>>94300710>>94300745>early phases of transitioningYes. The brain virus is starting to exit its dormant phase, presenting symptoms like nail polish and declaring pronouns before games.
>Wizards prepares to announce more things for Foundations>Hasbro stock takes another drop in preparation
>>94301221Investors are not optimistic, but they don't have to be, the inertia will carry the game forward for another 10 or 12 years. There will be a few more half-finished attempts at online play which will nevertheless make money (just not enough money fast enough to make up for Hasbro's other failures in the long term). Towards the end, people will tried to hide other less-conspicuous failures behind the failure of MtG/D&D, and Hasbro will make a bunch of baffling purchases and investments as the ruling class plays hide-the-turd.
>>94301263What I don’t understand is if wizards is the only part of Hasbro that makes money, why have the other parts continued their existence? If wizards is paying for monopoly and my little pony and shit to lose money every year, why are all those other things still being made?
>>94301316Because it's a big retarded bureaucracy that can't do anything right. Capitalism creates big retarded bureaucracies that can't do anything right.
>>94301341Not doing anything right is the natural result of any large beauracracy.
>>94301316Transformers makes money, not as much as DnD and MtG, but it still makes money.Hasbro's current CEO Chris Cocks, who comes from microsoft wants to company to become a digital or video games company first and foremost, and complete the transition by 2026. And he seems pretty confident that what games they make based on the IPs they own will be successful, despite the development times being very short, publishing two games a year starting late 2025 is just unrealistic.I guess Baulder's gate was good but they fired everybody who had a part in it as part of their cutbacks due to financial losses, honestly Hasbro might have even less time then that other Anon predicted.
>>94301221If things are bad right now, can you imagine when Spider-man set hits all formats?
>>94301341That's not a capitalist problem, that's a problem inherent to all big and old systems.
>>94301580It'll sell incredibly well and make Magic's revenue go up even more while Hasbro burns around Wizards.
>>94301586>oldlol, this isn't an old system by any metric, it's big and centralized, because that's what capitalism does. Capitalism rapidly centralizes wealth by replacing markets with bureaucracies.
>>94301633>100 years isn't oldOkay monarchist, we get it to be old we need at least 200 years of pedigree.
Universes Beyond: Warframe would be cool
>>94301633>not oldHasbro is a hundred years old
>>94301666What did he do now
>>94301666based satan
>>94301672He thinks UB would be fine if it wasn't 50% of Magic.
>>94301666>>94301680he'll only understand when start getting exclusively 100% UB sets
>>94301690>>94301680yeah that's exactly what wotc wants people to think. pushing the envelope and then pull back a bit to still get a foot in the door is a very common tactic seen in vidya and say lootboxes
>>94301680Disappointing but not surprising>>94301690He'll never "get it", that's not in his nature. When it becomes 100% he'll switch to the OTHER consoomer cope:>well the real issue is the QUANTITY of sets. It would be fine if it were only 6 sets a year even if they were all UB, but 8? That's too far
>>94301666Agree.
Even 1 UB set is already bad news.If you can't understand you are just a faggot consoomer and a retard.The door to Magic's end has been open with 50% sets being UB.
>>94301775god I hope so. what kind of death are you imagining?
>>94297046Why is this card blue instead of white?
>>94301859Probably because it steals it.
Surprised they don't make the universes beyond stuff its own format.
>>94298655>sorcery speed that hits all opponents>thinks this is even close to instant speed that hits any targetZoom zoom the commander containment thread is elsewhere. Begone.
>>94298655Yeah it's worse.
>>94301957If anything I think it's objectively worse than Lightning Bolt for 60 card because it only hits players. Because apparently reprinting Lightning Bolt for Standard would kill the format when it's not even a corpse anymore and it's just bones now.
>>94301973God I'm illiterate, it's a Sorcery lol. Seriously why is WOTC so afraid of Lightning Bolt in Standard?
>>94301973It's an upgraded lava spike, which is nice, but any comparison to Bolt is silly.
>>94301953You think they care about formats?
>>94302024Because Bolt is huge for RDW and they're already having enough trouble balancing RDW as it is. Not that I think it really matters since no one fucking cares about Standard anyway.
They're moving forward with the fortnight plan faster than I thought they wouldMagic planes will stop existing by 2028
>>94302132>2028Well aren't you an optimist? I give them until 2026.
>>94301953>A major complaint from newer players getting into Magic via UB was that they had to play only Commander or Modern>WotC wants Standard to be the on-ramp format>So the products that get players into Magic can be used in StandardIt's a very reasonable argument, all things considered, if UB has to exist, and unfortunately it does.
>>94302024Because they want 3-toughness creatures to exist against aggro Red.
Aetherdrift just does not feel like magic, it feels almost UB-like.i love racing and frequent motor/sp/orts but mixing the two just doesnt work.same goes for the space set. the only set i see next year that feels like magic is tarkir, and even that could change
>>94302187>Aetherdrift just does not feel like magic, it feels almost UB-like.Shut up professor.
>>94302187>Aetherdrift just does not feel like magicit feels like a step up from MKM and OTJ to me
>>94302176>want Standard to be the on-ramp format>refuse to balance it>no one wants to play it
>>94302187its as magic as murders/outlaws/bloomburrow/duskmornnew sets are just excuses to give popular characters silly hats.
>>94302186as ifif you want to block red right now you'd need something like a 0/18 flying wallwtf else is going to block an 8/3 flying trample double strike
>>94302187Card games on motorcycles is great.
>>94302186Red decks don't give a fuck about enemy creatures right now.
>>94302198I think MKM is the current lowest point for Magic sets flavour-wise. OTJ was just kind of nothing because it was terrified of actually doing anything at all with a western setting. DSK meanwhile is a lot of really high highs and SOME low lows. Aetherdrift... I dunno what to think so far. It'll be nice to see Kaladesh and Amonkhet again, and I guess we'll finally get literally anything interesting about Muraganda, and the central conceit of the story does kind of interest me as to what'll happen with the big MacGuffin spark thing, but, meh. It'll probably be fine.
>>94302198maybe a step up, but still not magic.>>94302206its frustrating because something like duskmourn wouldve been better without the references. the horrors felt magic-like and interesting
>>94302187The only theme parks that feel like Magic are the ones I like
>>94302187This faggot seems to come from the Professor's crew... How can you say this shit when you will be getting Spongebob Squarepants, Cloud and Green Goblin in half a year?
>>94302218The only highs of DSK are some of the monster designs and it's not like they're greatest of all time or anything. BLB is the high water mark of 2024 and it's just some Redwall stuff.
>>94302222Like, I'll generally understand that the feedback of "Magic sets based on genres have been too heavy on references lately" as being a thing they've taken in mind, especially with UB now being more prevalent meaning that UB is where they'll put more references by just having the actual thing, but they've already made a lot of these upcoming sets so who knows, but maybe Aetherdrift'll be the last issue like that. Like, I've seen a lot of cynicism around Edge of Eternities being too trope-y but we've seen very little as-is, and I think "space set" is such a WIDE thing that they can be more Magic-y with it. We'll probably get a card called Faster Than Light or something like that but we likely won't see too many overly-specific references.
>>94302246>but we likely won't see too many overly-specific referencesI wouldn't call it too early.
>>94302237That's literally what the professor said, he complained about every set except for Tarkir, this faggot is 100% part of his crew.
Do (you) still enjoy mtg?
this is all your fault, you killed blocks and now we have to deal with magic fornite.
YOU CAN LITERALLY WIN THE GAME WITH HEARTHFIRE HERO AND ONE LAND BECAUSE IF THEY EVER CUT DOWN YOU JUST PUMP IN RESPONSE EVERYONE AT WIZARDS IS A FUCKING IMBECILE
>>94302258The problem with specific sci-fi references is they're either TOO specific and would be a little odd to make reference to, or have become so part of the genre that making reference to them just feels like being part of the genre. It's important to note that Duskmourn DID have overly-specific references, but Duskmourn was INTENDED to be highly-referential, like that was one third of its 'thing'.
>>94302263who the fuck is the professor im just coming back from a decade+ hiatus and all this shit doesnt feel like magic or magic-like references
>>94302273You forgot picrel, don't forget he invented Dragon's Maze which caused Wizards to abandon the three block structure.
>>94302290They're shitposting with eceleb shit, don't pay them mind
>>94302290>who the fuck is the professorNTAIt's picrel, that's ithttps://www.youtube.com/@TolarianCommunityCollege
>>94302246>set weapons to stunput a stun counter on creature + set mechanic>warp speed!creature gains haste + set mechanic>Resistance is futilegain control of create + set mechanic>Engage tractor beamsreturn target creature to owners hand>Danger Jace Robertsonuntap target creature and it gains indestructible>The not-spice must flowcreate some treasure tokens + set mechanic>Never tell me the oddscreature gains unblockable + set mechanic>death star artifact involving charge counters
>>94296562how big do they have to be to make the cut? 20/8?
>>94302290https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzNmQfAtjiM
>>94302356Literally only of these likely to exist will be Tractor Beam (probably just an O-ring variant) and Warp Speed.
>>94302368Past 4 mana, stats basically don't matter.
>>94302393at some point they just pitch to cragganwick cremator or some shit
WHAT IN STANDARD ACTUALLY DIES TO CUT DOWN? DO YOU EVEN READ YOUR OWN CARDS YOU INSUFFERABLE GAYS
>>94302456well nobody reads standard cards in the first place
This is as good as a 1 mana creature should be. Anything more is excessive. Return to the old ways, reverse the creep
>>94302456>Cut Down>6 drop..........>Go for the Throat>Counterspell>Sunfall>Fucking Murder
>>94302472*laughs in savannah lions*
>>94302472I'm still amazed that Red never got a vanilla Savannah Lions equivilent. Skipped straight from Goblin Piker to Ragavan, it feels like
I'm working on the (slim) FDN offerings for upgrades. Herald of Eternal Dawn was a shoe-in, obviously.
>>94296656>Aaron Forsythe had pitched an idea of bringing other properties to Magic, what we now call Universes Beyondof course
>>94302561Embereth Veteran is basically that. Not quite vanilla but almost.
>>94302474>cut down>6 dropWhat did he mean by this
>>94302606He just really fucking hates Bolrac-Clan Basher.
>>94302606I assumed we were talking about >>94296562 since the discussion right before your post was about that, and that you were complaining about people saying a vanilla 6 drop was trash using one of the most common removal spells in standard inability to kill it as a justification.
>>94302215underrated duelist
>>94302268it's funny. every other set I puke and UB isn't helping but I keep crawling back so I guess so
>>94302356hire this man?!
just sold out of standard, how do i learn dsk limited to blow the rest of my play points and quit this trash
>>94302719by playing it? what have you been doing so far to learn
>>94302268>>94302685The undying truth is that MTG as a game system at its core has not been surpassed for those who still like MTG.
>>94302733it's weird to me why so many other games have little to no instants or they revolve around a commander card
>>943025851920's asthetic ladies, the only good thing about New Capenna's setting...
>>94302215But here it will be motorcycles on card game, which suck
>>94302829>Pic relPretty nice edit, Where'd you'd find that?Anyways, Voss does draw some nice women.
>>94302731i'm going to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOY3rC28Onci have 25x buyins I think so some margin for error while i learn set
>>94302872DSK rotates in a week, wait till foundations
>>94302944sounds good
>>94302959no
>>94302990yes
>>94302868You new here? I make the edits myself when new sets come out (read: new art is available).
>>94302187>feels like MagicNothing feels like Magic anymore. You are either going to pop-culture-reference plane or it's just an entirely pop-culture IP set.>lame fantasy but cowboy hats>medium fantasy but Red Wall ripoff>lame fantasy but detective fedorasThere have been no recent settings, just pop-culture-adjacent vomit. To even call them "Theme Parks" is giving it too much praise. It's a Cow-boy themed bathroom except I ate too much Taco Bell and tried to see how much of the floor I could cover in shit.
>>94302585First off, thank you for the delicious chocolate, that art begged for an edit. That said, you seem to be correct, reprints aside new promising girls are scarce. From first glance I could only see Dazzling angelKiora alt artHerald of Eternal dawn regular artVivien alt artAs potentially interesting
>>94303097What do you even need to edit for this Kiora? It's pretty sexed-up as-is, for modern Magic.
>>94303097I have bad news for you - I'm not doing any of those.I am working on the new Exsanguinate art through.
>>94303058Which plane was original?
>>94303155
>>94303160the more this gets posted the more it feels like desperate cope
>>94302561My cope.
>>94303164How?
>>94303155The ones I can't recognize what they copied to make.
>>94303160We've already been over this. Dominaria and Kamigawa and Lorwyn are just as bad as Amonkhet and Kaladesh and Ixalan. There's some argument to be made the even more recent stuff is worse, but it has never actually been good.
>>94303160
>>94303155>duhhh name 1 completely wholly original idea?!?!?!? Wow, good counter argument, retard.I'd say Tarkir is a more original plane/idea than "generic cowboy setting" or "generic mob setting".
>>94303176What was Ravnica ripping off?
>>94303176>Unironic everything was always bad so you have no reason to complain.Fine Anon, I'll just dutifully swallow down the newest Secret Lair as you ask of me.
>>94303196Cast a Deadly Spell
>>94303121A shame, but not surprising.You mean the commander masters exsanguinate art? Looking forward to it
>>94303196SHUT UP AND BUY THE SPONGEBOB SET AND THE WHACKY RACES SET OKAY? MAGIC WAS LITERALLY NEVER GOOD SO THAT JUSTIFIES TURNING IT INTO LAZY SLOP OKAY? SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BUY PRODUCT WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>>94303196Prague, don't you understand Anon? Being based off Prague is just as bad as being based off of New York city like New Capenna is.Even original Ravnica is on the same level as New Capenna.Now eat up your race track set or Maro will get mad.
>>94303196Original Ravnica was slavic inspired and was fantasy Prague.
I find if funny how consistently the people posting in the middle of the day are dismissive of magic being anything more or that it ever had value outside of what it is currently, while the night/eu crowd is more willing to engage in discussion even if there are disagreements.
>>94303193If your preference is "generic Asian setting maybe with some dragons", that's cool but don't try to act self righteous about it.
>we've reached the point where people are making the unironic argument of "it was never good so please don't have standards and consume the slop!" for MTGkek
>>94303170there is so many unnecessary points when we all came to the conclusion couple threads ago that it all went to shit in og kamigawa when they jumped the shark in set design. every time I see this pic it has more text on it and all the fluff here like "the prism" is highly not needed. very pretentious
>>94303176No
>>94303196today
>>94303225>we all came to the conclusionWho's "we" Anon, I certainly don't agree with you.
>>94303208>Being based off Prague is just as bad as being based off of New York city like New Capenna isThis but unironically.>evil church>police brutality>useless bureaucratic government>sadistic murders are just entertainers and good guys, bro>you WILL take the drugs and join our hippy communeIf Ravnica was a brand new set released today, you'd all be calling it woke.
>>94303113people like you are the reason we're never, ever getting another Moriok Scavenger again
>>94303238you had to be there. there were at least 2 of us
>>94303202this but unironically
>>94303246I as the guy who posted the original blogpost excerpts at least but the blame squarely on Neo-For the current state of the game but have no distain for OG Kamigawa.
>>94303220You need people to make multiple posts again detailing how Lorwyn was an even bigger ripoff than any recent plane?
>>94303220I mean, not having standards has always been a prerequisite for getting into MTG.
>>94303220no, the argument is mtg was never good so I continue to not consume itget it right, you are pulling that last part out of your arse
>>94303270>>94303269SO MUCH THISI think Magic has always sucked. That's why I defend Magic sucking right now. I hope the next set is a giant pile of unoriginal garbage, because that'd be so fucking cool. It's stupid to want things to get better. Things should stay exactly as shitty as they are. I love products and consuming btw. It's my favorite thing besides defending brands I love (they are my best friends) online from haters.
>>94303239>sadistic murders are just entertainers and good guys, bro>you WILL take the drugs and join our hippy communeWhite washing Selesnya and Rakdos is squarely the fault of newer sets, so yes I would dislike Ravnica if it was done today, because it was and I dislike it.But I don't think Rakdos has ever seriously been shown to be a "good guy" or any members of the cult for that matter, although tiny bones is cute and they've had they're edges and heavy industries thing sanded off over time.
>>94303276>It's stupid to want things to get betterIt is.
>>94303220>it was never goodCorrect>so please don't have standards and consume the slop!Incorrect, I'm not giving WotC money and have never given WotC money. I simply find it amusing that suddenly people are crying about how the slop being served is no longer the flavor they prefer.
>>94303276see, you are doing that conjecture/projection thing again>>94303275
>>94303275>>94303289So you just come into the thread for the sake of shitposting and baiting?
>>94303295No, I proxy and play free versions of the game.
>>94303295Not them but I come here to bitch and moan about the current state of a children's card game.
>>94303295if crying about the state of current magic is considered that, yes
>>94303300Then why play something you have always viewed as slop?
>>94303312The game mechanics are (mostly) good, the lore is slop. How is this hard to understand?
>>94303295>when I complain about modern day Magic, it's heckin valid and good>when other people complain about both modern day Magic and older Magic, it's shitposting and baitingGet off your high horse, damn
>>94303269If you want to be reductive about it and claim that since Lorwyn takes from folklore it's on the same level as New Capenna or any newer sets, or UB. Everything takes and is inspired by other things, what matters is how you execute on that, and I think Lorwyn was executed better than a lot of what we've gotten recently.
>>94303306>manchild's card game***No kids are playing MTG in current day.
>>94303315Got it, you didn't differentiate between lore and the game itself in your previous posts so I made the assumption based off >no, the argument is mtg was never good so I continue to not consume it
>>94303341No, you have to listen to the retards in the thread. They've only repeated themselves a hundred times. Bad thing = every other bad thing.Asian themed set with dragons is exactly as lame and shitty as planewalkers in a terribly written western setting (minus guns and things people like about westerns). Just listen to the reductive doomers. I stubbed my toe 2 years ago, so that's probably just as bad as getting my arm obliterated with gunfire today! Bad thing = every bad thing.
>>94303353that was me, nta. yeah maybe I should have mentioned lore too but I thought it was obvious in the context of that cope jpg being posted just before your post
>>94303277Rakdos sure, but Selesnya from day 1 were being portrayed as more good than bad, if anything MKM was the set that did the most to highlight their cultish and brainwashing aspects. Those have been mentioned but never really shown in much detail, if I remember right even in the original story they were victims.
>>94303369if 2/3 of said asian set with dragons didn't turn out to be hot garbage maybe you'd have a point
>>94303387Glad you justified the 1-set hop arounds now. >at least people on online forums can't say sets suck now because we'll just be going from 1 garbage unoriginal set to the next!
>>94303193>>94303369Jesus Christ, what a whiny little faggot.
>>94303340The difference is that me and others like are are trying to point to something we view as good or has the potential to be good again, or even for the first time on its own merits someday if your that far inclined.So far your not pointing towards anything, just mocking people for caring in the first place. Like for example if someone thinks UB is a good direction for the game than they should say that, support it make an argument that magics story sucked so bad that its better to be moved away from since other IP are better. I wouldn't agree but at least one would displaying what you want out of the game.And I'm not saying you have that stance but its an example of something to engage with in a thread about mag the gathering.
>>94303341What is the difference between Lorwyn copying folklore and New Capenna copying from history?>what matters is how you execute on thatAgreed, and I'm not seeing how Lorwyn was executed better.
>>94303409A set being executed better relies on the consumers ignorance of what it is copying.
Official draft archetypes.
>>94303406>what you want out of the gameThe correct answer is Mirrodin, they had a good thing going and then immediately dropped it to copy Japanese folklore aesthetics.
>>94303467Boros and Azorious will be the colours to go for right?
>>94303475If that's the case then regardless of my disagreements with you, as a fellow dude who thinks Mirrodin was the ideal in terms of world design, you have my deepest respect beyond regular conversation.
>>94302561Bro your swift spear?
>>94303409It's the lends each of the planes concept it cast through. Trying to explore the multiverse and a new plane as a setting versus trying to use the multiverse and a new plane to make something work in mtg.There was still a large mechanical focus of Lorwyn, trying to explore what a plane not grounded in humans would be like and having a tribal focused set design. Some where better than others, the Treefolk are quite forgettable outside of the Sapling and Colfenor, and the Giants are just sort of there. I would say the books are just meh even if I appreciate the atmosphere of Lorwyn far more than New Capenna. Art direction definitely plays a role in this, although New Capenna did have better art direction then some other sets before and after.Lorwyn just feels a lot more realized with the interactions between the races and how they all relate to each other, while on Eldraine and New Capenna it feels like each of the factions is weirdly isolated from each other. Of course Lorwyn plus Shadowmoor has the benefit of being a 4 set block so we get to spend a lot of time there, and as some might say, folklore and high fantasy just feels more magic than new york city.There's also the elemental of Lorwyn which are cool and unquie among Magic's pantheon, the Kithkin and their thoughtweft are nice, I like the Merrow and the Faeriesas well, but the Elves are just okay. Although I don't like the Lorwyn+Shadowmoor Goblins being Black/Red since they aren't very selfish or ambitious. Really we don't get white/lawful Faeries and their turn to a more organized faction in Shadowmoor carries a lot of of the apprtiation I have for them.>>94303450You do know people know what Hobbits, Merfolk, Changelings, Ents, and Giants are, correct?
New white surveil.
FlashProwess
>>94303507>You do know people know what Hobbits, Merfolk, Changelings, Ents, and Giants are, correct?There were a fair number of people here who did not know the things being referenced, and I would say these threads have an over representation of lore nerds compared to the general audience.
>>94303467I want to see a cube comprised entirely of signpost uncommons from the last few years and see how it looks
>>94303467will these idiots ever figure out "Prowess" is just putting Grapeshot as a creature keyword? why would i ever play ignite memories or brain freeze when i can just play a swiftspear and removal check you on turn 2?
>>94303507NTA but pic rel is emblematic not just of content territory wizards is not eager to touch in the same way ever again but also in how interconnected the tribes of Lorwyn are with each other as a living world with politics and internal of how various groups view each other, even if it is relatively shallow compared to more complex works.
>>94303097>>94303121>>94303522Oh, I didn't see this. Hopefully this gets a high res released as well. I can work with this.
This kind of card is always good in limited.
New skeleton.
>>94303527>Flash>Prowress>WizardaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>94301203>let's make grizzly bears a 3 for 1fire EVERYONE at R&D
>>94303507>Lorwyn plus Shadowmoor has the benefit of being a 4 set blockThis is pretty much the only difference, tbqhwyfam.
Angels is going to be an annoying deck in standard.
>>94303629>AYO FINNA BE ANGELS AN' SHIT
Disfigure copy.
>>94303624>tbqhwyfamNo idea what this means but if you're saying the one set block model is shit and has led to the themepark-ification of Magic sets then I agree with you.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/foundations-beginner-box-contentsBeginner Box Contents.
>>94303543That kind of interconnectedness is problematic yeah, pic rel is the right kind.
>>94303629This is the least "dazzling" angel I've ever seen. The art's just bad too. Look at the knees. Look at the feather in the fore-ground.
>>94303642For what purpose?
>>94303794Really not sure, because Disfigure was reprinted as recently as BRO, so it's not like it's a "card name they don't wanna use" for whatever reason.
>reprinting An Offer You Can't Refuse instead of Spell PierceWeird
>>94303883spell pierce is racist against players of color. they don't have two mana laying around, you white devil.
>>94303883It's easier to justify (to new players) "this spell gives your opponent two mana" than "this spell might not do shit".
>>94303166Your Savannah Lions you ordered, sir
>>94303883An Offer You Can't Refuse is better the longer the game goes on.
>>94303914
>>94303913I doubt they're worrying THAT hard about complexity given other choices they've made with this set.
>>94303638She might be white.
Wait, are spoilers over? Did they actually reprint gates without reprinting Gates Ablaze or Gatebreaker Ram?
what the fuck is this shit? is this the characters mouth?
>>94303996just something in the background
>>94303990playing magic is like watching Empire of Dust in VR
>>94304004God fucking dammit I thought it was a helmet on someone's head.
>>94304085Go to sleep Anon, you've been up too late and are seeing things.
>Lorwyn-Shadowmoor was my favorite>Play for years hoping to get another set>WotC takes off the mask, Universes Beyond drowning out Magic>Lorwyn release date pushed back for a universes beyond set>Lorwyn might be MKM or OTJ or DSK tier in terms of quality....https://youtu.be/wd4YgudTcnM
>>94303409According to WotC? The difference is that they've had to dumb things down with more pop culture references.
>>94303996bro calm the fuck down, it's literally just armor with wings
>>94304215Are you saying they should've, for example, gone with a heavier Egyptian theme in Amonkhet?
>>94304215According these posts a top-down sets biggest marketing pointed is resonance.
>>94304085wouldn't propably worry about it
Redditors are liking the gatekeeping the game.How is the Gatewatch format coming along? With the One Ring banned what cards are allowed to prosper.
I hate Reddit so fucking much and how much they love UB and the amount of retarded arguments they spout daily makes me wanna puke and tells me this game is already beyond salvation because such braindead people are now the target audience of this game.
>>94304328Reddit also hates UB though.
>>94304257You asked what the difference was, and that's what WotC says the difference is. They aimed for very surface-level Egyptian aspects in Amonkhet in order to avoid alienating potential players. The result is something that comes across as a vaguely Egyptian theme park.There is very clearly a distinction between how WotC used to handle referencing real-world history and mythology in older planes, and how they handle it more recently. If they'd gone deeper into Egyptian theming or had more oblique references, maybe Amonkhet would have felt more like an actual setting, but there's no way to say that for certain.
>>94304374And now Amonkhet's just a backdrop for a race. At least that sort of works for Kaladesh, it has a lot of vehicles and shit there. Amonkhet's just... Desert. Is Samut gonna just be racing on foot, or something?
>>94303527>>94303585>negroOMG SO PROGRESSIVE IM GONNA CONSOOOOOOOOM
>>94304520>>94304520>>94304520
>>94304311>gatewatch formatPray tell, what format is this?
>>94303927>UBkysTry this instead
>>94304495Samut racing on foot would make sense. She lost her spark, she presumably heard about the race given a portion of it is happening on her home plane, and one of the few details about her that anyone remembers is that she uses magic to give herself super-speed. Which means there's basically a 0% chance that she's participating, because it would require the designers to think for more than a few minutes.
>>94303540That's what makes it based.
>>94303097Kiora, the rising pants
>>94303996anon you need to go see an eye doctor as soon as possible. there isn't any character in that art, it's literally just some torso armor with wings. it's not being worn
>>94299191Commander isnt the problem. it's WotC killed the identity of the game. too many formats and 5 releases in a year instead of start a new in fall, continue it in winter, finish in spring, summer for cores/one offs. rotate em out. it's a faggy new cartoon every 2 months.
