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I made a bunch of 100%-proxy decks in OldSchool93-94 format, and it is the most fun I have had playing Magic in some time. The old school cards feel so satisfying, even if I personally never experienced that era of Magic back then.
>>94310047You stupid idiot that's the incorrect previous thread. Why does every time you create an inflammatory thread do you post the incorrect previous thread. You didn't even post a Thread Question.
>>94310097Please understand anon, he had to rush to make a new thread while we were on page 5. Can't have someone else make it and not have a shit OP.
It might not be so bad turning into the Weiss Schwarz of western TCGs.
>>94310164if that translated to more booba yeah
>>94310047If you will accept, play, like or, god forbid me, coonsom UB you are a subhuman and part of the problem.
>>94310047actual previous thread>>94304520
>>94310164wizards will NEVER EVER print SEXY WOMEN or CUNNNY on cards. I will not be a UB supporter until we get UB Frieren with fern's fat tits and frieren's bony ass sticking out of a mimic.
>>94310212>wizards will NEVER EVER print SEXY WOMEN or CUNNNY on cardsBut they already did anon
>>94310199At some point you realize being a Magic: The Gathering player already makes you a subhuman. Then you stop caring.
how in the motherfuck do i either open all red sources and black spells or all black sources and red spells in my two color limited deck with 17 lands with no double-pip cards
>>94310239Stop using basics.
>>94310239do you not run any double lands?
>>94310047the lore died a long time agoget over it
>>94310276>The lore is shit>That's why we will take everyshit out there as an improvementLOL WotC
>>94310286you will be dragged kicking and screaming into our glorious game piece future
Give it to me anons. How do I get into duel commander format? Should I get into duel commander format? My LGS mostly does multi and duel
>>94310301I just realized the first two standard legal UB products revolve around already heavily multiversal franchises (spiderman is this at this point). This has the potential to be a bigger disaster than anyone thought.
in draft are you really supposed to run 16 land in aggro? seems loose
Reminder that 1 out of 5 new cards printed last year was a legendary creature (403/1923). In other words, legendary creatures are more common than any non-creature card type. That's almost a 19x increase since the release of the very first Commander set in 2012. Here's the total breakdown by type from last year:> 727 non-legendary creatures> 403 legendary creatures> 224 sorceries> 208 instant> 171 non-creature enchantment (183 including creatures)> 157 non-creature, non-vehicle artifacts (262 including creatures and vehicles)> 57 non-creature lands (62 including creatures)
>>94310239Plug everything you demand into a hypergeometric calculator. The chances of something going wrong are really high. With 9 sources of both colors and a good curve, you're looking to mulligan about 30% of hands if you don't keep trash.
>nooo you can't just run a 80 cards deck because you want to!!!
>modern
>>94310276>>94310286>Between 3-4pm PST>Daily argument about MTG lore startsIs it going to be the a 2v2 like yesterday?Lets wait and see.
>>94310470no just enjoying duels of the planeswalkers 2012
>>94310406This is inflated by UB sets.
>>94310239if you're drawing only 7 cards out of a 60 card deck, the odds of manascrew are high. That's why two-color lands exist.
>>94310199But UB is now magic, so you're a subhuman no matter what mtg product you buy now
>>9431037617 lands is the gold standard for an average manacurve, but if the curve is more on the low side you can get away with cutting a land for more gasdraft is just a game of chances and every chance you don't try to take is a chance automatically missed
>>94310212look at all of the "anime" arts we get, they're already a lot better than anything wotc's made in the past decadethey've even gone through and made some other uggos (slightly) more attractive.Hell they even gave Muldrotha some tits...kind of
>>94310503so the solution is to remove all UB sets from the game? excellent, now go tell WotC and Hasbro about it
>>94310544god I've ripped so much degenerate porn from pixiv so glad they're pulling from the talent pool of endless samey ass art that an ai could shit out forever
actually decade is being overly generous, a decade ago was 2014better make that 20 years>>94310574Even if you don't like most of the arts (shit taste) you have to admit they're infinitely better than westoid slop.
>>94310544but all of those arts look worse than their regular counterparts
>>94310047lol why are they still pretending? They don't plan to reprint any of these SLD cards. It has been nearly 2 years and still no DnD movie one. And they literally own the property. By the time Marvel releases, the number will be 16. You'll get your reprints in 6 years
>>94310594in my opinion that's just the flip side of the same coin of boring or nonexistent art direction
>>94310604alright anon you can take your kellans and fat badass black women if you wantthe people who like good art will be over here as wotc continues to pander to them more and morei suppose day of judgment (and progenitus for that matter) already had ok art but the rest is lol, lmao
>>94310549Sets made for commander will have more legendary creatures because it's singleton and gives more flexibility and expression.UB becoming standard legal will have a smaller proportion of legendary creatures because it still needs to be a playable game. UB is ass I don't like it just doom better.
>>94310435>4x ring deckme no likey
>>94310594>Even if you don't like most of the arts (shit taste) you have to admit they're infinitely better than westoid slop.lolno, delusional ESL tr/a/nny
>>94310649you have to go back
>>94310594So are these legal in Standard/Pioneer or not?
>>94310646again, the solution seems simple to me: ditch Commander and retvrn to Magicyou really gotta call that Hasbro exec by now, he'll love your ideas
Here's the lore I want to see:>We go back to Tarkir investigating the return of the dragonstorms>Turns out Ugin's there>Jace is visibly upset because that means nobody is watching over Bolas, yet he can't discuss it in public because Bolas surviving was supposed to be a secret>Ugin acts cagey over what happened and why he's back in Tarkir>Jace prepares to just mindbreak Ugin to get the info he wants because he's Jace>Huge battle ensues>Jace gets the upper hand>But suddenly, Bolas jumps out to protect Ugin in a shocking twist!>Now Gay Bolas (or rather, Gay Nicol, having now dropped the "Bolas" moniker in accordance with his M19 backstory)>While in the meditation realm, Nicol finally confessed his feelings to Ugin, and Ugin realized he was really mean to Nicol when they were younger.>They then share a kiss, causing Jace to disintegrate because there's no homophobia in the multiverse>4 short stories and an entire book that are just Ugin plowing Nicol senseless>Random side story with Niv literally jerking off in Ravnica testing out new izzet sex toys commissioned by Ugin>3 sentences mentioning the dragons of Tarkir now work with the khans thanks to Ugin and Nicol's intervention, which is why they're 3c now
>>94310656They're from jumpstart not foundations, so probably not.
>>94310656jumpstart is not standard legal
>>94310656all new jumpstart cards are only vintage/legacy legalreprints with anime art like in >>94310637 are legal everywhere the original card is
>>94310670>>94310671>make future UB sets Standard legal because people were confused about legality and just wanted to play with their shiny new cards>don't make Jumpstart Standard legal even though people are consistently confused about legality and just want to play with their shiny new cards
I got into EDH because every other format is dead locally. Ive sold out and bought back into the game twice now. The fortniteification of the game is really killing my interest, but I dont want to sell everything only to feel the urge to play again and have to rebuy everything.Laying out this deck I realize my Harmonize is missing, of all things
>>94310699>>don't make Jumpstart Standard legal even though people are consistently confused about legality and just want to play with their shiny new cardsdon't forget that half the cards actually IN foundations aren't legal but are just some random new player reprint thing
>>94310699yes, welcome to doublethink land of america, enjoy your stay
>>94310700playing in paper is kind of a scam to be honest, either play proxies with friends or play some shit like tabletop simrid yourself of the cardboard jew
>>94310700this is the wrong thread, we discuss Magic the Gathering here, not Enormous Dildo Handjobs
>>94310646LCI had 44 legendary cards duskmourn had 24. UB sets will more legendary cards than nonUB sets which is why they are cutting back legendary cards in standard.
>>94310700this thread is just three retards schizoing out 24/7if you want a chance to actually talk about the game there's another thread for that
>>94310727you wish, dildo lover
>>94310738I never see anyone talk about pauper here and that's the only non-joke (constructive) format currently availableNo one here talks about draft either for that matter, I don't even know what you fags play, standard? nu-modern?
It's too late to stop the UB menace? If 2025 Spider man and FF fails spectacularly we can go back?
>>94310637>giadaBoth are good, for different reasons>isarethPretty much the same, though the background is worse>elenoraLooks more like a kid in cosplay than a wise knight>rionyaPretty much the sameHonestly don't know what that pic is supposed to prove. Are you such a consoomer that you'll buy anything showing some ankle or shoulder?
>>94310435>80 card deck>White>Intentionly not running Yorian companion Yeah this is pretty great
>>94310747
>>94310725Foundations has 24 legendary creatures in the main set.
>>94310748>Are you such a consoomer that you'll buy anything showing some ankle or shoulder?I haven't given wotc a single red cent since 2013 and it's a mark of shame if you have.I win simply by doing nothing and putting in random art they make for me if I like it.I'm sure as fuck not paying $350 or whatever the promo art for hazel is
>>94310746Pauper has always been pretty small and people mainly talk about draft during new releases
>>94310747It's literally impossible for the marvel ones to fail. FF is similarly unlikely. We'll have to see about future ones.
>>94310747It's over, anon. There's no going back.
>>94310047UB cards should've been gold or silver bordered
>>94310747lotr was their highest selling set everif you don't expect spiderman to sell as much or more than you're retarded
>There's a very real possibility we'll get ASOIAF next year>The most Magic AdjacentTM set will be a crossoverI know tarkir is happening but I have very low expectations for it in modern mtg.
>>94310544If only they were still here, id like a toriyama and miura secret lair
>>94310789They'll need as good of a scam as the 001/001 Ring if they want to reach LTR sales
>>94310789I'm going to buy the spiderman set and hate myself yes
>>94310815your best bet is reusing old art that would fit for new cards like they did with hildebrandt (rip) or frazetta
>>94310830They'll probably come up with something, does spiderman have any popular mcguffins?
>>94310841I'll probably get a single of Vivi a bit after the set comes out.
>lore has always been weak so now so it's okay if the lore gets way worse>voting with your wallet doesn't work, so you have to sit on your hands and buy the slopTruly an MTG thread.
if you win packs in limited on mtgo should you sell them, open them, or use them to draft again?
>>94310544Why are there attractive brown girls on the card art?Did they not get the memo that while you are supposed to add black women you are supposed also make them look mannish/ugly?
>>94310699the argument is that there's a specific group of people getting into magic through their preferred choice of UB sets and they're being funneled into EDH or Modern, then they realize their favorite cards from said UB set either suck or there aren't enough of them to make a cohesive deck, so they get frustrated and leavethis is different from jumpstart, which is supposed to be a pick up for quick games and focuses on bypassing the deckbuilding difficulties for new players to learn the basics of playing magic since it's pretty much shuffle up and playUB being standard legal is quite literally the definition of "line must go up" they want turn UB players into enfranchised players who will stick with the game even after the UB set that got them into the game is out of print
>>94310604>Zendikarok now post something within the past 15 years lol
>>94310848They could try to do some comic book style Issue #1 treatment for some card, though it feels a bit shameless. Like doing a series of beanie baby secret lairs.
>>94310883Oh yea I forgot capeshit had their own autism over that, probably that then.
>>94310882bitch I just used the art from the cards shown
>>94310800I'm questioning how sustainable 3 UB sets a year really is. There's only a limited pool of major franchises you could get a full set out of.
>>94310700cool foils anon. miss the shooting star
>People here somehow recognises is truly over with no way out>People here will also buy UB slop full of guilt, but still wasting hard earned money on itSo that's it. Watching the whole world burn and just enjoying some marshmallows at the fire...It's pretty sad if you ask me.
>>94310926>People here will also buy UB slop full of guiltwho are you quoting?
So how many BOOMS does the new Foundations set get on the boom meter?
>>94310903and thank you for proving my point
>>94310939This thing is a 10/10 in my book.
>>94310908Just running through random shit that comes to mind:>Dark Souls (could even make a whole separate Elden Ring set)>TES>Dragon Age>ASoIaF>Sanderson bullshit>Star Wars>Shounen Jump shit>Harry Potter>Witcher>Avatar: the Last Airbender>Castlevania>Warhammer Fantasy>Warcraft>Guild Wars>RuneScapeThere's plenty of things they can pull from. It's more of a question of who's willing to join the bukkake and if WotC can afford them.
>>94310903>Art from 15 years ago>Actual art showing mass destruction>Art now>Random shaved mixed asian woman with no titsRemember when drawing an angel for mtg was a prestigious thing?
>>94310903Man, she looks great from the neck down.
>>94310908They have an ENTIRE SET from spiderman alone.There's (nearly) infinite other IPs they can bring in and that's only if you count primarily western IPs.Pokemon, Yugioh, Mario, EVA, Berserk, DBZ, every other random shonen under the sunEven at a clip of 3 a year they're set for at least a decade
>>94310908>There's only a limited pool of major franchises you could get a full set out of.anon, the spider-man set is one of MANY marvel sets that are coming in the future, they could do one set for each major member of the avengers and that would be only barely scratching the surface
>>94310746Pauper for some reason is really hard to get people to play and no one wants to draft anymore especially when packs are expensive and there is no real value in a lot of sets at least in my area
So this is the future of mtg. Grim.
>>94311019No, this is.
>>94311019Anon, please get with the times
>>94311030mtg's funko phase is already way in the pastno one bought them so they stopped after the second batch
>>94311025>inb4 WotC go to do a vtuber UB, but can only afford Nijisanji or Phase Connect
>>94311036>no one wants to buy our funkos??? FINE WE'LL BECOME FUNKO POPS!
>>94311039I thought niji abandoned the west entirely after their fuckups.
>>94311059More or less, but they might let WotC suck their cock if they come begging. It's not like WotC would know any better.
man it's bizarre how everything converges towards just some few products. not only actual material things or websites (kind of how the normalfag internet is now basically only a handful of social media sites) but in intellectual property too. mtg stops being mtg because selling their original planes and characters is too inefficient compared to selling the few major ips, videogames do more and more collabs with established franchises. using other brands makes more money than building up your own. soon enough our fiction is just going to be retellings of spongebob episodes.
>>94311073(At least according to maro which lol lmao) they always have big fans of the IP at the company so they don't fuck it up, but they also put out stuff like the walking dead several years after it was popular so who knows
>Unending greed of company ruins long-time beloved game without salvationLUL, imagine
>>94311081mtg stops being mtg because fucking no one cares about the game's settinghell caring about the game's setting is so rare that there has to be a name for the unfortunate few who actually carethey had a few chances in the past to try and rectify this but they either all outright ignored them or bombed so immeasurably hard I'm surprised they still do shitI was excited (mostly dreading but I guess also excited) to see what they did with return to tarkir and return to lorwyn but even that's probably going to be nonsense
>>94311082I could believe there's some desperately coping Nijisisters in WotC
>sell Magic packs to fan of franchise X>eventually stop making franchise X sets>fan of franchise X stops buying new cards>old players were alienated and stopped playing so they don't buy eitherWhat does WotC intend to do when this happens
>>94311101>>sell Magic packs to fan of franchise X>>eventually stop making franchise X setsprint franchise Y
>>94311101people rightfully doompost UB shit but UB shit is meant to be an onrampwhat's the #1 reason people got into pokemon or yugioh? the animesWhat's the reason people still play? Either misplaced nostalgia or the game.Same shit with the one piece TCG and every other game, the gameplay doesn't matter it's just look at the epic poggers luffy alt art or somethingwotc's plan (or at least, I'm assuming this is their plan) is to do that but have the game actually be good, because even with FIRE and all the other nonsense it still trounces every other game mechanically
>>94311101>when this happenswhat do you mean "when"? this is literally happenig in real time, they made a D&D set in 2021, they made LTR in 2023, they are making FF and SPD in 2025the answer is right in front of your eyes: keep making more UB sets to make up for the players dropping the game
>>94311096it'd be funny
>>94311101They're operating under the theory that the fans of franchise X will get hooked by the gameplay and stick around. Of course that's not actually going to happen because they've deliberately made the gameplay awful because that paradoxically extracts the most value out of old players.So in reality their solution is >>94311106 until eventually other franchises are too disgusted to even use them as an IP meat toilet. Then hopefully merciful death comes.
>>94310047Reminder that Mind Flayer, the Shadow does NOT have Arvinox listed as its alternate name, and "Mind Flayer, the Shadow" and "Arvinox, the Mind Flail" ARE distinct cards, and you CAN run max copies of each in a deck.
>>94311101Print franchise Y and hope that the amount of players who buy because they like franchise Y make up for the franchise X fans they're losing.At some point it won't. And then the game will die.
>>94311101>What does WotC intend to do when this happensSPONGEBOB!GET IN THE IP GRINDER!
>>94311125sorry anon
So print print print at the vain hope of hook some faggots not really invested in the game and that will only last few months while losing the stablished fanbase with short term profit focused decisions? sounds like hasbro but will be awful for the game as a while.
>>94311101>What does WotC intend to do when this happenslotr 2ff 2spiderman 2
>>94310746it makes no sense too. pauper is one of the easiest constructed formats to get in to.you get to play dark ritual, brainstorm, lightning bolt, artifact lands, etc. the meta really isnt solved either due to the huge card pool, smaller player base, and rarity shifts. almost every deck archetype through magic's history has a pauper equivalent.plus the rules are simple. commons only. none of the stupid cost shit like penny dreadful.
>>94310544Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. As much as I prefer the art of the GBF crowd to nuMagic art, it can't compare to original Magic art where you can see the brush strokes and 'visit the shores of imagination' as the setting is presented for you to imprint your own story upon.
>>94311094As with everything, WAR was the point of no return and we all knew it deep down. Everyone was already complaining about how shitty the setting was becoming even back then and it was clear things were only getting worse. The signs were all there. You can go back and find doomposts that are shockingly accurate to how things have developed. We all fucking knew what was happening and just didn't quite want to believe it yet.
>>94311156Oh I'd absolutely agree.Real/Original magic art is pretty much all better than most anime art, I'm just talking about the slop that they've been putting out for almost half of the game's lifespan at this point.
>>94311125Gatherer says otherwise.
>>94311166I told you fags this was going to happen back when they marvel'd everyone back in Origins.The story wasn't perfect before then either but every problem in the modern story comes from there.
>>94311180yeahthe jacetice league was the first big moment of them chasing trends, way beyond the simple referencing of beforethey tried to force magic-capeshit and predictably failed and their solution is to use real capeshit instead of realizing they were trying to force a square peg in a round hole
>>94311101The franchises just serves as an advertisement to get players to play the game. The average player last 2 years and that's who they're mainly selling.
>>94311205>Max life spawn of a customer: 2 yearsYou are right but i dont think that's healthy for any bussiness in the long term.
>>94311223it's worked for them for 30 years so farthere were people convinced the game was dying with the 6ED rules changemore for the M10 changes
>>94311205>The average player last 2 yearsThe average MTG player is ~38-52 years old and has been playing the game for over 20 years.
>>94311236do you actually believe that
>>94310830can we stop perpetuating this myth,The 1 of 1 ring was found less than a month after release, if LotR sales were tied to this golden ticket, then you would expect all the sales to dry up very quickly after it was found, but it still moves packs to this day
>>94311205>>94311223>>9431123314-16 year old boys get into the game and play till HS ends or they move on to other things and no longer have the time or allowance to play Magic, only to be replaced by the next cohort of 14-16 year old's.>>94311236A percentage of the guys who played magic as kids get back into it as adults with disposable income out of nostalgiaUB is Wizards attempting to get other millennials with disposable income that were not into magic back in the day to buy cards as the 14-16 year old boy market has mostly dried up and now the youth market consists of millennial parents introducing the game to their kids.>>94311240Its closer to 1/3rd of the playerbase.
>>94311271The sales volume dropped considerably after the ring was found.
>>94310968more baldfus for me, coward
>>94311279>Its closer to 1/3rd of the playerbase.oh so you're ACTUALLY delusional thenthe average mtg playerbase is probably 14-25 or so and most, as said, drop off after a few years
>>94311286or just like every set, the pack cracking addicts have had their fill, so boxes are no long being sold at the same rate
>>94311286you mean the sales volume dropped considerably after a month or two, the same way sales always do
>>94310637WotC's tranime art bothers me because you can clearly tell every artist prompt includes a paragraph in big bold letters: "DO NOT DRAW CLEAVAGE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES"I've never seen anime this G-rated before, it's like a glimpse into the future of an ultrapozzed Japan and I hate it.
>>94311297>Giant titty window>Wearing a leotard thing>Whitea significant upgrade
>>94311306LTR Collector Packs were making up a disproportionately large amount of sales for the set and then suddenly started selling a lot less. Can you guess why?
the most infuriating pro ub argument of all is "change is scary"
>>94311336First day here?
>>94311019Don't be ridiculous, there's no way we're getting a James Bond or a Harry Potter set.
>>94310746Can't speak for anyone else but I play Pioneer exclusively. Might take up standard again but not likely
>>94311327You haven't seen much japanese art then.I can't say I've seen too many big titties among them but cute stuff is far more prominent than giant titties (though you are likely right in your assumption)Shroofus is right out of a ghibli movie
>>94311350We're 100% getting a HP set at some point, the trannies will whine and it WILL sell like hotcakes.It's the one inevitable UB release I'm actively looking forward to.
>>94311297>bald women
>>94310975>comes in turn threeToo slow.
>>94311327>why yes my only contact with japanese culture is seasonal anime and vtubers, how did you know?
>>94311336Mine is:>t-they had to do UB to make a profit. We want wotc to stay in b-business!!Yeah nigger, those price margins selling boxes of cardboard full of...cardboard must have really narrow profit margins.
unholy annex in limited is like wizards of the coast's entry in the Dumbest Goy Awards yeah a phyrexian arena that drains the opponent, that sounds fair in a format where every other card is grizzly bears with the set keyword
>>94310199>>94310406>>94311327Did both artist get the same prompt?>>94311025Kronii one chip challenge
>>94311039Phase is too chuddy for JotC audience and already has a tcg in the works (not that they would stick with it over Magic, few would). It's holo or nothing.
>>94311403For the reprints with new art I would assume so, or at least something similarthe naban is almost 1:1
>>94311409>It's holo or nothing.holo has an official tcg AND a weiss schwarz thingexisting tcg does not mean they wouldn't have a mtg crossoverbut yea if they did any vtubers it'd be holo almost certainly
>>94311168I think that the people who disagree with you must be thinking of old-magic art. There's no way any sane person prefers nu-magic slop to anime art.Like if you don't like anime art, fine, but are you really gonna sit there and tell me nu-magic art is BETTER? Wild.
what i don't get is why wotc doesn't bother trying to make a new tcgit seems weird to pack all of that risk into a known cash cow.
>>94311434Unfortunately I've seen many people here say that.Whether or not they actually believe that claim or are just shitposting is another question.
>>94311330once again you are pointing out the basic sales lifetime of a product and proof of something completely unrelated. It is nothing usual. Collector packs are even more focus of pack cracking collectors, and most 'collectors' get their fill after the first week or two of a new set, even the most dire hard collectors have little reason to constantly buy the same premium product forever.
>>94311440>What I don't get is why wotc doesn't bother trying to [make a massive extreme risk]>It seems weird to [significantly less riskier thing that has an out if things turn sour]
>>94311440wotc has gone out of the their way to kill every tcg they own other than mtg.They once had major rights to Pokemon TCG outside of Japan and they flushed that away
Mark my wods, cards will soon display a character's preferred pronouns.
>>94311440Yeah, why don't they create their own competitor that would require doubling your workforce to cut into each other's sales?
>>94311409WotC's pretty out of touch and fishman is a pretty aggressive marketer, but the real thing is that Phase is just too small. Niji would've had a chance a year ago, before they imploded.The joke is that they're both the cheap out options compared to Holo. I guess there's also Vshojo, but they're only big enough for a Secret Lair.
>>94311447The proportion of collector boosters sold and the sharp decline after the Ring was found were both unusual. If you want to believe that everyone JUST SO HAPPENED to be extra enthusiastic about collector boosters this one time and they al JUST SO HAPPENED to have their fill of them precisely when the Ring was pulled, go ahead.
>>94311510>Normal market trends happen except this one time they were a lot bigger because the set was a lot bigger>There's a conspiracy behind thisI look forward to whatever nonsense cope you have when spiderman is their biggest selling set ever, again
>>94311516I mean, they clearly weren't normal market trends with how disproportionate the share of collector boosters were and how sharply they dropped off, but whatever man
>>94311510https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMUQSMFGBDo
>>94311529You're right, it's purely a coincidence and absolutely no one was motivated by the million dollar bounty
>>94311464They're discussing.
>>94311611didn't they used to do this for ages and then stopped (relatively) recently?or was that only for players I don't remember
Could someone please check my beta-style wording for this card?https://scryfall.com/card/tclb/20/undercity-the-initiative
Well I tried to bring the flavor text back to its former glory. Now I gotta draw it.
>>94311681what are you trying to do
>>94311611>I like the changeAsk him why he likes it.He won't be able to tell you.Sheep gonna sheep.
>>94311694I’m still pissy about thisThey ruined my boy
>>94311708can you not just use the original printing? it's worse yea but I don't know what the purpose of thi sis
>>94310903>wotc still seething internally over angels being forever associated with whitethis is never fails to crack me up
>>94311710You have to be mad.
>>94311724I don't know what you're talking about, the original printing is a lot better in art and flavor text than the others, so what were you trying to do with the 'new' version of it?
The only reason UB was successful was trumpbux.Prove me wrong.
>>94311681>>94311708Your flavor text is shit.>It speaks in alien tonguesThis is its own independent clause. It is serviceable but not particularly interesting on its own.>The dead forsake death itself to live for their slaughterThis is a second independent clause. Your use of a semi-colon is, I believe, incorrect and you should use a period instead. If you wish to combine two independent clauses you cold also use a coordinating conjunction (but, yet, nor, etc...) or something like 'however' or 'consequently' or 'also'.Ignoring the grammar for the time being, your two clauses do not have any connection. Is it the alien tongues that cause the dead to forsake death itself? This is not communicated clearly.>the dead forsake death itselfThis is a bizarre phrase and not in the way you intend. Consider replacing 'death' with something like 'oblivion' or 'their eternal slumber' or something like that OR clarify 'the once dead' or 'the newly slain' or something like that.>to live for their slaughtererThis sounds stupid. "Live for" suggests that their slaughterer wants them to do nothing but live. Putting in another verb that means servitude or something similar feels more appropriate.>The slaughtered have forsaken death itself and now live only that they may better serve their slaughterer.Which is still pretty banal but I think is an improvement over your initial attempt.
>>94311440>taking risk on new ipversus>extracting more resources from well known and established ip
>>94311802lotr was like a year ago
>>94311622They referred to players with "his or her" for a while and switched to "they" at some point.They Planeswalkers with gendered pronouns though although it doesn't come up much since it's rare for them to need to use a 3rd person pronoun on a planeswalker, various Gideons are the only examples I can think of off the top of my head.
>>94311710because it's more cOnSiStEnT
I have a rules question.If a card removes the abilities of a creature in a single instance (eg: Sudden Spoiling) but a creature is enchanted or equipped with a card that grants it an ability, does the creature regain the ability instantly?I understand that if you have something like dress down that is permanently removing abilities from creatures then it ignores attachments, but my intuition would say that after Sudden Spoiling resolves my Savannah Lions equipped with Sword of Fire and Ice 'loses' pro blue/red then immediately gains it again because SOFAI checks and says 'oh yeah, this creature is equipped with me so it has pro red/blue'.
>>94311844what the fuck are you talking aboutdo you just mean the original print in the new frame?
>>94311849that's the argument it looks more consistent with the current design and it's boring as fuck like everything else they print
>>94311848Sudden spoiling is until eot.
>>94311861I understand, but it only removes the abilities once.If I have a White Knight that gets hit with a Sudden Spoiling and then I cast Jump targeting my knight, it still gains flying. Sudden Spoiling just removes all abilities upon resolution, it does not prevent creatures from gaining new abilities after it has resolved.
>>94311877Oh, that's what you meant. My understanding of layers is not 100%, but I think in your example they'd end up with a 2/4 creature with the SOFAI trigger but no protection.
>>94311922Interesting. I am also not 100% sure (which is an uncommon situation as I thought I had a pretty good understanding of the rules) but I had assumed that attachments could be thought of as continually reapplying their timestamp compared to something like Sudden Spoiling or Turn To Frog which removes abilities once in a very discrete time period.On reflection I think you are [mostly] correct and the only thing that would happen is my creature would be a 2/4. I came to this conclusion because if I had a global enchantment that just said 'creatures you control have flying' and then my opponent played Sudden Spoiling, I would expect my creatures to not have flying until the end of turn. The equipment being localized to one creature somehow made me think that it would apply the effect differently because it is 'attached' to the creature but that's nonsense. It would have a timestamp order relative to when it first became equipped.
>>94311954The triggered ability is on the sword, and thus spoiling shouldn't affect it.
>>94311025Holo just launched their own TCG, and surprise surprise it is outselling MTG in japan.But then again Holo also does some very odd collaborations (Dodgers?) so anything is on the table
>>94311982So it is. My mistake.
>>94312017so looking at the number magnitudes and text formatting: is it a pokemon-like?
>>9431208570% pokemon with some twists like leader cards like one piece
>>94310047Why the fuck is she so flat?
>>94312135magic is not for you anymore chuddy
>>94312145Darn.https://youtu.be/17KmNrG9pE4
>>94312135For aerodynamics.
>>94310746I like Pauper, the problem is the scene is so small I have literally one guy I can play it with. Any attempt at getting EDH trannies or Modern paypigs into it is met with that kind of confused semi-derision a normalfag gives you when you tell them about some obscure band you like. I had considered just making Pauper duel decks people could try the format out with, but the state of the game in general is so bleak I've lost a lot of interest.
>>94312135Why wouldn't he be?
>>94310746I have been part of a group that has been working to get Pioneer going at my LGS for like the last 6 months.We finally got a decent consistent group that could hit 10 people on good nights. Then the UB announcement came around and broke half the players spirits. Now we are just waiting to see if the depressed players can muster up enough motivation to keep our group firing consistently.
What are the strongest Pauper decks for in-person tournaments?
>>94312249My condolences
>>94312213What's Pauper's defense against UB? Hope that most of the egregiously out-of-universe cards are printed at higher rarities?
>cheapest printing of Snuff Out is the Doctor Who versionlollmaoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
>>94312313>egregiously out-of-universe cardshow will there be anything remotely magic in SPIDERMAN the set?
>>94312135>sheChandler is trans now, or haven't you heard?
>>94312340green goblin
>>94312350>Creature - Human
If a store has a large playerbase and fires regular Standard/Pioneer/Modern/Legacy/Pauper events,what do you think is the ranking of the easiest format to cash out in to the hardest?
>>94312339No
>>94312350holy shit just realized how funny it will be if they make him a Goblin tribal card and reprint Goblin Grenade into Standard via the Spiderman set
>>94312313Your question is part of the reason for my declining enthusiasm. I had gotten into Pioneer but UB has killed that. The one benefit Pauper has is that the commons are unlikely to make much splash. I guess D&D and LotR had some small impact, but those are relatively easy to ignore. I've also considered just proxying everything to be UW if I wanna make new decks. Not interested in giving WotC money either way.
>>94312375They made Shelob a spider tribal lord so why not?
Embrace Premodern, /tg/.Go back to when MTG was good.
I want to put together a Premodern battlebox and wash my hands of new releases. Im ordering cards for Stiflenought now, recommend me ~4 other Premodern decks for a well rounded experience.
>>94312135She still has tits, just that art is like that.
>>94312449>PhyrexianDreadnough.jpgI've got the right deck for you, brother.Go make GREAT COMBO and watch your opponents cry as they get cucked while seeing you draw your entire deck and win.
>>94312443solved format
>>94312467How is it solved, you retard?
>>94312443Closed formats don't interest me, but if one did it would be premodern.If for no other reason than that I found the full Survival of the Fittest Championship deck at a thrift shop.
>>94312443>brainstorm bannednah
>>94311860I'd normally even agree with most printings but a lot of the og eldrazi look better than most of their modern treatments.Maybe if they start doing that anime thing with the actual full art it might be similar, but the originals had a good level of translucency to them, whereas a lot of the more modern ones are too opaque for that.Whether or not I prefer original frame is kind of on a whim, though for some cards it's just nostalgia because I remember playing with a specific print.>>94312017>But then again Holo also does some very odd collaborations (Dodgers?) so anything is on the tableI don't know if you know this but baseball is INSANELY popular in japan. Like almost as big as football is here in burgerstan, so someone there just liked the dodgers probably.Funnily since after they got a collab with them they won every(?) game afterwards and just won the big championship for the first time in a while.
>>94312459that new muldrotha art has the same size tits she has here
>>94312530Dodgers: "With the power of anime waifus on my side, I can win"
>>94312566You have to be 18 to post here
>>94312017what is holo?
>>94312587Hololive, the biggest vtuber company by a lot.
>>94310344>I just realized the first two standard legal UB products revolve around IPs from floundering companies struggling to remain relevant after squandering a recent popularity boomfixdIt's all ads. Don't read anything more into it. We will not get Elric of Melnibone no matter how well it would fit. We will only get shit that failed upwards and was trying to be hip with the kids two years ago.
>tfw M:tG has achieved Reddit Player One status
>>94310544Low tier anime art is way better than current year Magic but I still dream of an alternate reality where Adeline is a gorgeous blonde woman drawn by Terese Nielsen, the New Phyrexia saga got us a couple dozen new Brom, Rk Post and Chippy arts. And we didn't need collector booster kikkery to get David Petersen art in Bloomburrow.
>>94312637Don't forget that wotc has driven away all of their actually good artist that they HAVEN'T explicitly ousted for no reason.Donato quit because they weren't paying him.Aleksi left for marvel, and while I don't think he made a public comment on it knowing how tight-pursed they are I wouldn't be surprised if that was money too.
>>94312017>>94312587>>94312597You pervhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG4gQHDWoFg
>>94310700Build a battle box with four decks you love that play well against each other and erase all Magic social media from yout life so your prefered way of playing MtG doesn't get polluted by Hasbro executives.This is /tg/ once you have the game pieces you can do whatever the fuck you want with them and corporate can't do shit about it. You don't have to play in accordance to Hasbro, WotC or whatever rules committee. Just you, your game and your friends at home.
>>94311417>>94310544>>94310594>"people" think this looks good
>>94310594I don't like pretty/cute goblins.
>>94312674It looks infinitely better than modern wotc slop, yes, that is the point.wotc even seems to agree with me since they keep upping the amount of anime art they put out
>>94312340>>94312350green goblin grenade
>>94311101The future doesn't matter, cocks and the shareholders will be long gone in their golden parachutes by the time the retards holding the bag realize they've made their game much less profitable by alienating the fanbase AND having to share profits with or pay licencing fees to UB IP owners. Both of which cost multiple times more than their own R&D.
>>94311101To turn MTG into the elsagate of card games.
>>94311101MARO SAID YOUR WRONG
>>94311156If there is one jtcg that gets close to old Magic's evocative power is is Shadowverse. Evolve is the most fun I've had since original Innistrad too.
>>94312764Shadowverse always seemed like the least slop of the digital tcgs but even then it was still heavily tainted with a bunch of the hearthstone mechanics so I never looked into it much.I don't remember what the effect was but I think every(?) creature had some ability to get bigger with something, like monstrous kind of.
>>94311417Ghalta, Rionya, Vito, Vilis, Taborax, Venser, Thryx, Padeem and Adeline are all legit better than their originals. Isareth and Eleonora are cuter, which matters for female legendary creatures. The Naban gigachad artist didn't give a fuck. The others are worse or equally meh to their originals.
>>94312776>had some ability to get bigger with somethingthat's evolve, lol
>>94310987This is why I play demons. WoTC doesn’t have the chutzpah to make the most evil thing the universe a black woman.
>>94312791
>>94312791That reminds me>Introduce tezzeret as a white guy with dreads>Make him ambiguously brown when he's evil>Rotates between black and indian for a few years, all the while being incredibly evil>Ascends and is now some darksteel guy, probably still evil but above it all or at least making it seem that way>No he's white again, just without dreadswhat, exactly, did wotc mean by this?
>>94312683WotC knows it more than anyone else that's why it's so much more expensive to get these arts. And they keep saving their few good artists left for collector boosters.WotC literally admits the art is shit by doing that. But we live in post-irony times when some people gotta eat shit to be contrarian.
New player here. Gonna check out the Foundations prerelease. I've been getting into Pokemon TCG too. Wish me luck, anons.
>>94312808Is raffine a girl? I never really thought much about them.
>>94312826She was in the story, so yeah.
>>94312791>>94312808There's some shit from 40k that's apparently a woman but this is the only recognizably human-like demon in the game that's a girl and she's a fair sight better than most others.
>>94312776>>94312789Funnily enough, in Evolve not every creature evolves lol.It is like Heartstone without the shitty digital and ActiBlizz taint. I've also heard people call it the blessed child of 8th Edition and Duelist Kingdom era MtG+YGO! And I have to say playing with these cards have made me even more aware of how low quality Magic's cardboard and foiling are. No wonder proxies couldn't pass, they couldn't make the cards shuffle and handling feel shitty enough.
>>94312822Pre releases are a lot of fun, and at least you kind of get your entry fee back from the packs even if you lose every game.But Sealed is a hard format so you might want to do a bit of research on how to build a good Sealed deck beforehand (IE; two colours, 17 lands, a decent mana curve, using your removal spells and rare bombs)
>>94312812>what, exactly, did wotc mean by this?They miss Urza.
>>94312841yea foils have been dire for a while, I do remember that comment about proxies being noticed because they weren't shitty enough
Shadowverse sucks. I played a lot of it back in the day and thought of farming its shitter playerbase in tournaments but it's essentially a Hearthstone-style coin flipper.It did have a pretty fun Limited mode you could freeroll though (even if the quality varied wildly depending on the set's balance).
Wtf are pips?
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6734357#paper>pyrogoyf has now power crept atraxa
>>94312861You're a pip.
Speaking of Shadowverse Evolve, they also have UB, but it's exclusively other CyGames/Bushiroad properties because the point of cross promotion is to invite players of other games to check out the company's offerings, also horse gambling.Meanwhile Magic gets invasive ads in game piece form. For shit that isn't even games.
>>94312861mana symbols>>94312879we already did that with transformers, my little pony, and nerf
>>94312890Thank you, I knew that but had forgotten.. I'm old af
>>94312861pip boy from the massively successful mtg fallout set!
>>94311808this is what lack of pussy does to a mf
>>94312927>add two pips to your mana pool
>>94312866Good, fuck Atraxa.
>>94312930Mana pool (at least on cards) stopped being a thing in dominaria.
>>94312929Kek true 100%
>>94310646More legends in UB confirmed.
>>94312947Oof
>>94310746Initiative killed my interest in pauper.It's not that hard to find games for online though.
>>94312947Another part of the endless UB stuff is humans as a tribe is gonna get so much support, marvel sets - mostly humans, ff - mostly humans, 5c humans might come back
>>94312890The problem here is Hasbro/WotC doesn't actually have other games.They have toys and IPs, but they don't have a Vanguard to catch the Weiss players when WS makes a bad decision. And it's their fault too. They killed Jihad, fumbled Pokemon, wrecked Duel Masters, didn't even let Dungeon Command get half out their cunt before strangling it...
>>94312961You think they'll make Zidane a Human or a Monkey.
>>94310095old school is kino
>>94312959Initiative? Is this a new rule?
>>94310095I did.. I was 22 and it was glorious
>>94312976It's a mechanic from one of the dnd sets, you "enter a dungeon" and you get effects whenever you do it.
>>94312981Thank you. I played with those cards but had forgotten the mechanic completely
>>94310746I'm thinking about playing some in person Pauper tournaments. I didn't bring any decks to Tokyo but I can build one for cheap (I wanna play Elves) out of their junk bins.A store fires Pauper twice a week near me (and way more at the larger tournament centre).Anyone have advice for Pauper tournaments?
>>94312961>>94312971wol, firion, and onion knight are humanscecil is a moonfolkbartz is from another dimension but still a human probablyterra is an esper/summoncloud's a SOLDIER most likelySquall is a spiritZidane is a MonkeyTidus is an illusionVaan, Lightning, Noctis, and Clive are also probably just humans, but you could make some shit up for Clive being a summon too
>>94311808What is this bland grammarly shit, "the dead forsake death" is an intentional play on words and you ruined it
>>94310746I want to give Pauper a try but there are 4 issues-I don't want to have to learn a new format-The format seems like it's affected by power creep just the same as legacy and vintage are, with FIRE commons in every set increasing and inevitably resulting in a broken combo with some ancient, forgotten card (e.g Broodscale)-As a result of the above, what you're doing in the format isn't really unique, just a toned down version of what you can do in modern or legacy-Events where I live are monthly at most, and have a high entry fee (???)
Explain this card to me.How exactly is this good?
>>94313096>Explain this card to me.Reading the card explains the card.
how tf is ocelot pride a thing?
>>94313096Have you tried reading the card?
>>94313099>>94313108But how is it good, you fucks.Why would I value playing it instead of a Whipcorder or some other shit for example.
>>94313106I want them to reprint it, not so I can buy it, but so I can put it in my weenies deck and we have a soft price cap, 40 dollars for that is a bit much
>>94313068Big advantage of pauper over legacy/vintage is no restricted cards, it's a real format with 4 of everything including e.g. brainstorm.I otherwise mostly agree
>>94313068>-As a result of the above, what you're doing in the format isn't really unique, just a toned down version of what you can do in modern or legacyWhile not perfect I'd say this is better than the "full power" version, games are too quick.
>>94313117
>>94310903>7 mana>flashok
>>94313117Are you the guy who didn't understand why playing Whipcorder via morph was advantageous?Deftblade Elite attacks to provoke. Anything that triggers on attack (and block) will trigger. Gustcloak Savior (from 1 set earlier) would let you untap Deftblade Elite just because it was blocked, for example. In some cases a forced untap might be advantageous as well. Using Deftblade Elite on defense lets you wait until the opponent commits to attacking, and then choose which creature you neutralize, instead of having to tap it beforehand with Whipcorder. Plus, as >>94313153 points out, it's a 1 drop.
>>94313303Yes.I've been trying to make a white weenie deck but struggling with finding the right cards and balance.I noticed a lot of the more recent ones were running those Deftblade Elite's rather than the Whipcorders so I was wondering what was about them that made them work better.
Pretty
>>94313405Was sort of playable in Bant Spirits when that was a semi playable Modern deck
>>94312754I work for Maro and he said that Mewthree is real
>>94312969Pokemon UB WHEN
This will be my second prerelease and I'll like to do better than the previous one (blb).Which decks are playable with this pool? My first thought was WG, but it seems there's not enough creatures to support it.I then thought about UB or BG, since all these discard effects in Black seem powerful. But there's barely enough Green creatures, and Blue leans more to small creatures with flying.So I guess WU is the way to go? Create lots of flyers, keep them alive with some Fleeting Flights, pump them with the multicolored creatures, Make Your Move for removal
just realized I could use AI and make an entire anime deck. >>94310544I've never owned paper, just played with friends and online, but fuck it I might just deckbuild and make some proxies to play with people I knowwe are so back
surprised no one made something like a 'custom standard' format where every season you pick like 6-8 sets and that's the pool everyone has to play constructed with
>>94310704>don't forget that half the cards actually IN foundations aren't legal but are just some random new player reprint thingAll cards in (actual) Foundations products are Standard legal, save for 13. These 13 have a different set symbols and set codes.>The ten Special Guest (SPG) cards rarely found in play/collector boosters.>The three commander (FDC) cards (Arcane Signet, Command Tower, Sol Ring) found in the Foundations Starter Collection. What AREN'T Standard legal (unless they already were) are the cards from Foundations Jumpstart (J25), which is just a poorly-named Jumpstart 2025.>>94312989Initiative was only in the Commander, 2nd DnD set. The Standard, 1st DnD set only had normal dungeons.
>>94313370First step is figuring out the limits. Are you building for a specific format? Are you doing kitchen table with friends? Those kinds of considerations will define your card pool and power level. You don't need the BEST cards for either, but you will need to be at least competitive, which determines your deck's core.Way back when, the workhorses of white weenie were White Knight and Crusade. The knight is a hatebear with combat relevance. Crusade powers up weak but early threats, like Savannah Lions or Tundra Wolves. It also sticks around when you reset the board with Wrath of God or Armageddon, when those early threats meet no answers again. Holy Strength works in similar fashion, though it won't live through Wrath.Tempest had a shadow equivalent white weenies, some of which saw play outside the block, like the "disenchant on hit" guy and the red/black protection dudes. Evasion is a good thing. Not being able to block sucks, but Lifelink can fix that (or stall an enemy big guy).Masques block flipped white weenie decks into rebel ones, because rebel synergy is insane. You get free dudes, and Lin Sivvi fetches them all? You can tutor color hozers, and they fly? You can sack a dude to exile black creatures, then get him back with Lin? Add in a couple of enchantments like Cho-Manno's Blessing and Story Circle and you're golden.Odyssey/Onslaught have soldier synergies. There, you lean into tribal effects, like Catapult Squad.And that's just the old-school stuff, based on the cards/frames you used.
Are there going to be any good self-mill cards in Standard as of Foundations?(preferably 1-2cc).Kind of wish they reprinted core set allstar Stitcher Supplier.
>>94313436how this lying jew has any credibility left is universes beyond me
>>94312658I need a herohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfxpFKlPptA
>>94310746pauper got FIREd up with pauper like anon saidlast time limited was really good was in nu-kamigawa. after that it's just bomb drafting where if not answered immediately snowballs the game in a turn out of reach
>>94313583*with initiative like the other anon saidfuck
>>94313541blue seems like the best colour for it.check out this meme budget self-mill deck:4 Fallaji Archeologist4 Founding the Third Path4 Picklock Prankster4 "return all 2 drops from graveyard to battlefield" 2WW sorcery24 Hare Apparent
>>94313527>>94310704Foundations Play Boosters, Collector Boosters, Beginner's Box, and Starter Collection:>Standard-legal Foundations (FDN) cards- 134 new- 138 reprints- 78 Beginner Box-exclusive reprints- 163 Starter Collection-exclusive reprints>Non-Standard cards- 10 Special Guests (SPG), randomly found in the boosters- 3 Foundations Commander (FDC), included in Starter Collection box.Foundations Jumpstart (J25) Boosters- 56 new (none introduced to Standard)- 708 reprints (retain past legality)None of the above numbers include basic lands.
>>94313535better than white weenie-equipment
>>94312866>Power crept tarmogoyf is literally called FIREgoyfNot even subtle at this point
>>94311101That's a problem for future wotc, present wotc doesn't care, chud.
>>94310746I play nothing, this game is gay now.I would play premodern.
>>94312866>16th placeit's just one guy trying something different, you can literally see a traditional oath list with atraxa in the top8 of the exact same vintage challenge https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6734365
>>94313979I watched a guy's tournament vod and he ran into that Flametongue Kavu Oath guy and smashed him and laughed about it.
Where is the Elf support in the upcoming Standard?Reprinting Llanowar Elves but the rest in the format suck.
Demons will be a thing across all the formats.
>>94314148>Where is the Elf support in the upcoming Standard?https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Dfdn+t%3Delf&unique=cards&as=grid&order=cmc>>94314183If someone makes vintage and pauper demons into a real thing I'll be genuinely surprised
why is limited so swingy now? most rares in dsk like the phyrexian arena demon enchantment feel unbeatable. do you just have to get lucky or take fixing really high and splash off-color bombs? I used to take duals high in vintage cube like LSV but usually it just resulted in a more consistent shitty deck maybe I just have to stop playing black in DSK, it seems shallow. do you force Boros, Azorius, or Simic each time? I would play BLB but I heard the format is even worse
>>94314265you're just bad.DSK rewards good drafters noticeably more than limited formats tend to do.
>>94314257>Llanowar Elves and Druid of the Cowl in the same setSometimes I wonder if Foundations was originally two different core sets clumsily stitched together. There's so many nonsense decisions.
>>94314257Exactly, they kind of suck compared to Larry.I'm also wondering if there is some kind of non-creature payoff in Standard that will work with Elf tribal, or any big finisher for them to tutor off Fierce Empath.
>>94314309overrun is getting reprinted in foundations, I think that's the cheapest non-creature finisher we'll get
>>94314309For a giant creature to tutor for, there is Atraxa and Etali.But how about Hoarding Broodlord?Convoke should be great with elves and you can pack some silver bullets for it to get.
>>94314265>Maybe I should stop playing blackBlack is generally considered the worst colour in DSK so that makes sense and yeh, if you open the right cards forcing Azorius or Boros is definitely a good idea for this format
Gates is not going to be good in Standard, I predict.Nothing but Maze's End printed for it.
>>94314570Yeah, it's fucking mystifying that they wasted slots on the unplayable Gates shit and printed literally none of the cards that actually make Gates good. Unironically what the fuck were they thinking?
katana sleeves are so shit. i can't believe people shill these with a straight face.
>>94313011Very likely all of those will still just be Human-typed except Zidane and Terra maybe. Terra will possibly be Human Spirit or whatever they use for summons, if Kellan being a Human Faerie is any indicator of how they use hybrids.
>>94314586goes great in a commander deck!
>>94314703Yeah, but they already had all that shit.
>>94314265Annex is an outlier, most of the rares are not that swingy. Also there's a fair amount of playable enchantment removal because of the enchantment theme in the set. It's one of the better recent sets for draft, by far.
>>94314796but the foil was too expensive! ; (
>>94314816i've done five drafts and NEVER seen a terramorphic expanse, which i would take even if i weren't in delirium. maybe people are first-picking it and that's why my decks end up with no fixing and get mana screwed.
>>94314844Are you regularly running 3 colors? I don't think the lack of fixing would be that significant. People are also definitely not first picking 13lands, you can probably nab one.
>>94314906>13landspedolands*
>>94314947>>94314947>>94314947
If I want to make a meme EDH deck based around Mutate, what sort of commander should I have? I'm thinking WUBRG, with that commander that turns all creatures and slivers into a selected creature type... then declaring 'sliver' as that type and getting all the legendary slivers, but does anyone else have other ideas?
>>94313527I had bought a few of the commander d&d stuff but it was very underwhelming. I still have a d&d commander deck that has a 0% WR
>>94314183Isn't it already?
>>94316288I would ask this in the new thread
