Previous: >>94312356>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://mtglands.com>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQ:What new deck are you brewing? Or complain about UB and scalpermaxxing.
>>94324218>scalpermaxxing(You) made sure to use the URL exploit trick while it was still available, right Anon?Surely (You) didn't wait in line for 3.5 hours.
alternate TQ: you buy cards from your local game store and they give you more than you bought, do you give them back or take your plunder?
>>94324218storms get blasted
>>94324218>StorACK
>>94324218I got the Wolverine one. Here's hoping there's a Deadpool one later on so I can make the Deadpool&Wolverine deck. Maybe they'll go even further and make a Deadpool&Wolverine commander deck where they're partners
>>94324218>TQTesting out Ghave right now. I have a lot of cards in his colors that look like they would synergize well that I either cut from other decks or were part of decks that never came to be. So far it looks like he could be fun and he's in colors I like. Not sure what pieces to pick up once I cut down all the bulk adds and make it into a working deck, but I have a feeling he's going to be a good time.
>>94324031>giving up cards for no reasonyou can't be held responsible when someone sells you something incorrectly
>>94324218I'm brewing Krark Vial Smasher, The Beast and Crosis the Burger. I won't whine about UB, because it's a lost fight, and I don't have any interest in capeshit anyway.
>>94324232I waited and got what I wanted. They probably printed a lot more this time.
>>94324266>its a lost fightFinally someone with common sense. Old magic is dead and its not coming back. People need to get over it. Nobody cares if some people don't buy the UB shit, people care that those people are being insufferable babies about it.
>>94324240If it's a store I would like to keep going to then I'd give it back. If it's a store in a city I'm visiting or something along those lines then I'd 100% keep it.
>>94324266>I won't whine about UB, because it's a lost fight, and I don't have any interest in capeshit anyway.>building a doctor poo decklmao?
>>94324255>Here's hoping there's a Deadpool one later onIt would be a big surprise if there isn't. Not just because he's already a big name but especially since he had a movie a bit ago.
>>94324349I'm gonna assume there'll be an X-Men and Avengers set too, and I think you could vaguely insert Deadpool into the X-Men set. He's X-Men adjacent at least.
>>94324218got cucked out of Storm but managed to get a Captain America, so I guess he's my next build
>>94324218>TQcustom skeleton commander with the goal of utilizing and buffing a good variety of skeleton cards (skeletal swarming, skeleton crew, all the cheap skellingtons etc) while still being easy to pick up and trying to win with an actual skeleton army
Gay Bolas
The pushback from this botched Lair is going to be insane vs. WotC.This is Ticketmaster level bullshit and people DESPISE Ticketmaster.
>>94324376it's such a fun card, why would they waste it on UB, I don't wanna make some flashy comicbook superhero my commander
>>94324218Built Ishkanah, Grafwidow out of spite. Turned out to be a fun build, I'll have to goldfish it later and see how it runs.
I will not accept playing against proxied Marvel commanders. if you missed it you missed it
>>94324465My bros BL, Ron, VZ, and USEA give their regards
I will not accept playing against Marvel commanders.
>>94324426>botchedBut it worked exactly as intended?
aah, good morning fellow UB boycotters of edhg! how did we do today, the marvel lair didn't sell out in record time thanks to us right?
>>94324518>Selling less things is exactly how we intend to sell more things
The whole lair will be done in just a few hours, and surely by the end of the night.Considering the people still waiting in line, the "available" stock isn't even really currently available if you think about it.
>>94324518Yes anon. You make a limited print run of a crossover with the biggest Nerd IP ever sans fucking Pokemon.They not only left MILLIONS on the table, everyone who isnt an investor is fuming, even normies on Reddit.Reddit. Of all fucking places. The most bootlicking cumguzzling losers, even despise this decision. Hasbro sold out any goodwill left for short term games. This company's fucked.
>>94324426Maybe, but I can't imagine anything really coming from it. From Wizard's perspective cards were sold. That's what matters to them isn't it? Or maybe this is part of some marketing scheme where they'll start out lmited then make a second wave or something with the intent of everyone rushing to that too.
You didn't actively contribute to mtg's decline by buying this shit right /edhg/?
>>94324570I bought it with no intention of using it for myself and flipping it for exorbitant prices
>>94324538They've already sold out of the majority of them. All the foils, except Black Panther, are sold out and most of the base ones are going too it seems.
>>94324441Well they eventually make universes within versions for some of these so there's still hope you can eventually play it without the jarring reference.
>>94324606Actually, they've changed the promise. It WILL still get later printings, but they've said mechanically unique Secret Lair cards won't ALWAYS be Universes Within.
>>94324624So likely, for example, Lara Croft will get Universes Within whereas the Marvel ones will likely show up in some form in the Marvel sets down the line.
>>94324554>Sell out your product for $500k>Leave potentially 4-5 times that on the table from the LEGIONS of nerds who would've consoomed this shit hand over fist.WotC, and Hasbro, fucked up royally. They completely revealed to normies that they don't give a single fuck about the average player if it means garnering a quick buck and that everything is about short term gains.Mark my words, they're fucked.They fucked up so massively that even the most room temperature IQ normie is seeing this shit for what it is. It's so maliciously obvious.Not only is it obvious, it's stupid as fuck.Really fucking think how much money they would have made with Print to Order.
>>94324498you have special needs
Best deck to zone out?, no think, only autopilot while i chill my brain
>>94324652True. It really sounds like a missed opportunity on their part. But this is just what they do, isn't it? Leave money on the table with stupid marketing practices. Isn't this kind of selling out normal for most people, even those who don't play card games, because of things like pop up stores and concert things? I imagine they'd be upset but I can't see it lasting long.
>>94324218UB os shit. SL is shit. Scalpers are scum. The game is dying and quickly.>they pushed back Lorwyn to bring out a UB setI think I'm just done with this game. Probably just going to go to the few prereleases of sets I actually like the look of, and not brewing anymore decks.>TQI was brewing a few decks but I stopped after recent announcments.
>94324746Okay but I'm still going to play a Cloud Strife, ex-SOLDIER First Class deckSeethe more chud
>>94324725Anon people are beyond fucking fed up with ticketmaster and their possible introduction to MTG was an experience on the level of if not worse than that. This is one of the worst first impressions you could possibly give
>>94324725Concerts have limited occupancy. Pop up shops, depending on what they are, have limited stock. Pop up restaurants have a limited number of ingredients.Meanwhile, everyone knows that WotC could print a bajillion of these Secret Lairs Ad Nauseum. There is no limited resource. It's cardboard, ink, and foiling paper. Especially when you consider that Secret Lairs used to be FUCKING PRINT TO ORDER.It's manufactured scarcity in the most literal sense of the expression. They don't have a single excuse to fall back on that couldn't be picked apart by even the most zealous WotC bootlicker and 10 seconds of critical thinking.If they wanted to make "Door Prizes" for the first X amount of people with the Arcane Signet, fine. Some people would've been salty but nobody would've given a fuck.This?Nah. They're fucked. Every site I know that discusses Magic is furious about this and are calling out WotC for their nonsense.
>go to checkout in less than 60 seconds of drop going online >still in line over 3 hours later as nearly everything is sold out because of a url exploit >instead of canceling the orders of everyone who used the exploit jotc just say whoops better luck next timeI was just gonna keep the storm one and sell the other 4 down the line but still.
>>94324606Universes within is not gonna be a thing anymore now that universes beyond are legal in standard.
>Secret Lairs Ad NauseumAd NauseumDark RitualLotus PetalPyretic Ritual
>>94324652>t. experiencing FOMO and maldingWotC got exactly what they wanted. To make exactly the amount of money they wanted to by selling out completely, and free marketing from every whining loser that missed out. I don’t like it either but that’s the way it is
>>94324796Hearty kek, thanks anon. But I'd argue replace Pyretic Ritual with Infernal Tutor. Isn't that a more common combo piece for Ad Naus?
>>94324218Want to build some sort of Gruul deck, was theorycrafting this guy for a bit, but a majority of facedown cards are actually just pretty meh to me, might try brewing Slinza and seeing if that interests me
>>94324804>and free marketing from every whining loser that missed out.We are no longer in an era of "people are talking about it, that's free marketing". Beyond that, free marketing for what? They're sold out and are never coming back.
>>94324804>Free marketing from every loser that missed out.Yes anon, because everyone just loves scumbags like Ticketmaster.This totally won't further disenfranchise current players or alienate new ones who wanted to play with their Marvelslop.Use your fucking head for 5 seconds.
>>94324773>>94324776Believe me, I sure as fuck hope you both are right and that I am just vastly underestimating how sick of this nonsense the average customer is, but I don't know. I hope this bites them and bites them as hard as possible. But I'm not going to hold my breath either. Regardless if they don't go back to print on demand after this then it is obvious they know and don't care.
>>94324810Can't say for 60 card, but I was just thinking of Mad Farm cEDH stuff.
>>94324816Fuck, this guy
>>94324825To be brutally honest? I know deep down I agree with you. That things won't change and normies won't push back.But this is a really obvious smoking gun for alot of people and it's REALLY hard for anyone to justify.Fucks sake if they just Print to Ordered a bundle with the 5 Avengers, they would've still made a fuckton of bonus bucks without worrying about "tanking reprint value" (though they officially aren't allowed to comment on the secondary market :^) )Never doubt the ability of a company to overplay their greed.
>>94324824The players will still play and they’ll still consume. Give it a month and everyone will be back to business as usual and this will just be another talking point for MtG influencers on youtube to add to their “top 5 MtG blunders of 2024” list.ultimately if you’re big mad about not getting UB slop then you deserve it
>>94324861>If you're this mad about not getting UBslop you deserve itOr maybe I'm just sick and tired of WotC's greedy bullshit?Imagine putting MECHANICALLY UNIQUE CARDS in a fucking limited run product.Imagine telling the playerbase they can't use a mechanically unique card because they didn't stay at home to sit in a queue or know about URL exploits to skip said queue.This isn't about malding over Marvelslop. This is calling WotC out on a level of jewish bullshit we've never seen before.Not even TWD was this bad IIRC.
>>94324218>log in at 9>Put two bundles in my cart and enter the queue by 9:01>Check on it every 15 minutes for 4 hours>finally gets to my turn>Website emptied my cart while I was in line and everything but Iron-Man and Black Panther sold out since thenMy disappointment is immeasurable, and my week is ruined.
>>94324898>mechanically uniqueDon’t care. It’s attached to UB slop. Put it in a setting somewhere in the actual Magic setting
>>94324898anonevery set is a limited run productyou just didn't get one this timestop seething, you aren't entitled to every card in the game when you wont even go get themthis is unironically like complaining you cant get edgar markov when you straight up could still buy one
>>94324392Should have an additional 1 generic mana in its cost, but otherwise looks sick. Cool homebrew.
>>94324426What was botched about it? Are people not able to get the cards?
>>94324898>Imagine putting MECHANICALLY UNIQUE CARDS in a fucking limited run productLike every card ever in the history of TCGs? You're complaining about this specifically in the TCG where people have had to have certificates of ownership to be able to play rare cards in tournaments because of how few there are?
>>94324465You don't have to accept it. Im still gonna do it lol
>>94324958mine already arrived, actually
>>94324845>>94324825There will be pushback but it won't amount to anything because the people who aren't getting to the page at 9:00 on the dot also aren't the people who would make a noticable impact on the bottom line. No matter how much people complain wizards can just plug their ears going "lalala it sold out this is the new mtg audience deal with it"
>>94324255LE HECKKIN OVERPRICED EFFIN REPRINTED CAPESHITERINOOOOO
The best, which is to say worst, part about this is they’re going to use the mad dash to purchase this and how quickly it sold out as further justification for making 50% of all magic sets be UB bullshit
>>94324717Pantlaza
>>94324958People logged in at 9:02, waited 4 hours, and everything but captain america and black panther were sold out.
>>94324969Every card ever in the history of TCGs can be printed in any quantity at any time by the companies that make them. The reserved list and IP contract cards are an exception to the rule, and are bad for the game long term.
>>94324946thanks for the feedback anon, I was thinking the same. it's still in the balancing phase, gonna test it with friends soon and collect more input.
>>94325014>IP contract cards are an exception to the ruleexcept we saw recently that WotC can reprint any of the UB cards as generic mtg cards with the same mechanics if they want to
>>94324933>in the actual Magic settingThe Multiverse you mean?
>>94324973Kek, nice. I bought mine because I like the official ones. I hope more people print cards though, proxy bros put downward pressure on the prices of the official cards.
>>94324969You're acting like the Reserved List is something that is celebrated instead of reviled.Kiss my ass you faggot bootlicker. And that's coming from someone who owns a ton of RL shit.The only difference is that shit like the Power 9 were printed 30 years ago by a then fledgling company and are banned everywhere.In the modern age there is no excuse for this. Especially, again, when Secret Lairs were PRINT. TO. ORDER not even a year ago.
>combat is an obviously bad strategy for winning games, only really better than the absolute worst like mill or burn>players will still dedicate a ludicrous amount of attention to the player with a vanilla 10/10, removing it before even seeing who it attackswhat would EDH meta look like if threat assessment was rational?
>>94324980I just like buying cards that I think are cool or fun anon, sorry you don't like it
>>94325040>And that's coming from someone who owns a ton of RL shit.Sell the ones you don't use then, hypocrite.
>>94325060Why would I sell a cards I play with and enjoy?
>>94325067>the ones you don't use
>>94325071Why would I buy a fucking card in the first place if not to use and play with it?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
What happened with the Marvel superdrop sale must be the most pathetic consoomer corporate bukkakr cum guzzling I have ever seen in my life. It's got to be more pathetic than black Friday walmart shit.
>>94325085To trade it for cards you do want. To give them as a gift, or prize for a tournament with your friends. To display it as part of a collection. Theres lots of reasons. Are you stupid?
>>94325090What about twenty (20) ?
>>94325025Yes, the Magic multiverse which excludes crossover slop with random movie, TV and video game franchises. You nailed it
>>94325100I don't treat cards like imaginary stocks to be squirreled away into a vault. I don't buy them as investments, jackass.
>WotC bootlicking LGS banned proxiesSorry chuds, but I ain't playing against your Sharpie Iron Man.
>>94324426Yes and despite that Ticketmaster is still in business and remains immensely profitable.Nothing will change until WotC runs out of money to keep doing Marvel crossovers.
>>94325131Yea you're stupid.
>>94325179Is this the same LGS that called the police about Mana Crypt?
Did I miss anything cool?https://archidekt.com/decks/9928751/vampsHaven't dealt with black or red before.
uh oh spaghetti-ohope you didn't want that arcane siggie Anon
>>94324392>The ride can endShameful.
>>94325048Murder the blue player and the white player
>get to my "turn">cart empty>check>sold outwelp, maybe I'll get a single of it sometime lmao
>>94325239Why the fuck are you fags acting like anyone ITT actually wants any of these shitty meme cards?
>>94325379Okay, anyone EXCEPT the tripfag >>94325376 of course he's retarded.
>>94324232i missed out. all i wanted was storm. and now all that’s left is black panther. sad. what’s the link hack?
>>94325403>what’s the link hack?>>94323444 (Cross-thread)Literally just direct linking to the cart while on a guest account.WotC patched it rather quickly though.
>>94325235What is it that you are trying to do? I don't understand why you are running Cordial Vampire with a total of 6 vampires (one of which is your commander). If this is a sacrifice deck I would run more token production and 'free' sac outlets. Immersturm Predator and Viscera Seer for example. That zombie goblin that sacs a creature to make a treasure seems very good as well.How are you planning on winning?
>>94325131Dumbass.
>>94325239Im surprised it was the first to sell out. It's art is pretty boring.
>>94325379>>94325392all of the mechanically unique cards are interesting/good/fun
>>94325209That's because ticketmaster has a monopoly, they're getting sued because of it.
>>94325379>>94325392retarded also swordbro is cool
>>94325533Put your trip back on faggot
>>94325458To put even more +1+1 counters on the commander ofc. I don't need more vampires and sac outlets are largely useless because the commander should eat all I have. I have a few.. just so I can sac if I need to..The winnin part is simple. Voltron.
I found out today that my disgust for trannies is stronger than my distaste for UB cardsI was willing to see how UB goes but not willing to play in a store comprised of 6 dudes in dresses
>>94325552Nah, swordbro is cool. He's a paypig, and he deserves any abuse that Hasbro might offer him, but he's still a good poster.
>>94325022>If they want toWe have a LONG list of cards we still need to get this treatment, and it's only getting longer.
>>94325552No
>>94325458Make tokens, sac tokensSteal stuff, sac stolen stuffEquip so she can surviveProtection spells so she can survivesome mild recursion and treasure token making.. But in the end it's just Voltron.
>>94325552Fuck off. Swordbro actually contributes to the thread. Go suck your own dick in a corner.
What's your experience with selling to a lgs?One of my local ones posts on social media 'hauls' they bought from people bringing in their whole collections and it's making me consider getting rid of anything over 5$ I'm not using Like what percentage of market value is common for selling?
swordbro's deckpics make me feel like when i watch rick and morty
Me with swordbro after he showed his deck to me in private
>>94325595>>94325607What does that even MEAN>>94325582>>94325571>>94325533Based>>94325552Sorry bud, ain't me, people just seem to REALLY like to play 'prod the dude that's angry at swordbro'.
god i wish i were gay bolas
>>94325625you're already half-way there
>ordered some cards weeks ago to finish a deck list I put together>supposedly shipped a week after ordering but tracking says nothing>about to request a refund>tracking finally updated to show it reach the next town over and due to arrive tomorrowAs long as it gets here by Friday I’ll be happy. I want to play
>>94325649yeah I just need to find another male dragon
Could someone recommend me a 4th commander based on what I have built?
>TQ>Or complain about UBI was asleep for the Marvel drop. Was it as disastrous as all the other SLD released?
>>94325687Sold out in less than a minute and people waited 4 hours in the digital line to find that out.
>>94325379>Card game finally starts printing cards for characters people actually know and like instead of literal who OCs>"No one actually wants these"They sold out in minutes, anon. You might need to consider the possibility that you're the one who's retarded.
>>94325706heh yeah that's exactly what I expected.
>>94325707Enjoy your SpongeBob vs Alien vs Predators cards you retarded consoomer
>>94325707That's been my take on it more or less as well. I don't really like any of the magic characters. I like the settings and some of the nameless characters that never get focus, but any of the actual character characters we follow I could not give less of a shit about. We're on our way for this to be western Weiss Schwarz.
>>94325674There isn't really much of a theme here besides you liking red.
>>94325239I wonder how much these are going to go when sold as singles.
>>94325674Pantlaza
>>94325674
>>94325799>3 mana 4/44holy ass batman
>>94325674Already told you to build Fumiko you cowardfaggot.
>>94325674Arcanis
>>94325760There are plenty of Magic OCs I like, but at it's heart the entire concept of magic is about pulling creatures and places from across different universes. Complaining about universes beyond feels like complaining that Super Smash Bros added characters that aren't from Kirby.
>>94325831it's more akin to complaining if mario and kirby were playable characters in Zelda BotW
>>94325778Anon, those ARE singles. Those are just the alt art arcane signet you got as a bonus for spending more the $100
>>94325760Record this post anons, for this is the future of Magic. This is the demographic Wizards will be catering to for the next 10 years at least.
>>94325838Zelda BOTW was not establish from the beginning as a multiversal setting. Unlike Smash and Magic.
>marvel secret lair was such a disaster that even reddit paypigs are taking the proxypillBased
Now that I can't unsee how thick his neck I need to make a proxy.
We need a format without UB. Call it slopless or something.
>>94325885It is kind of interesting that a month after folding the Rules Committee, they announce that half of ALL sets will be UB. I think the RC might have actually established Slopless even though UB was legal, making it literally half the game is just too far
>>94325874Make it box.
>>94325272yeah, you're 100% right, but it's getting there
>>94325868I mean a Multiverse means many things. And Magic uses it as just a many worlds thing, not in the Marvel sense of a bunch of versions of the same world.
>>94325379UB cards are the most mechanically interesting ones in the game.
>>94325874it's a dewlap
>>94325914That's not what a dewlap looks like
>>94325831>>94325868So by your logic Sponge-Bob should be playable in D&D? And I don't mean "haha I made a normal character as much like Sponge-Bob as I could for a joke" I mean that Wizards publish a Bikini Bottom expansion, with a Fry Cook class, and a pre-built character that is just literally Sponge-Bob. And you can't disallow it at your table, because not only is Sponge-Bob in a core book, but actually half of all books are now Spider-Man, and Sponge-Bob and whatever the fuck 90s boomers grew up watching.Why not? There's a multiverse in D&D.
>>94325905Needs "at the beginning of each upkeep, regenerate each skeleton you control". It doesn't come up often but a regen shield actually lasts the entire turn, it's just so often used reactively to something about to kill it that it doesn't come up.
>>94325912I'll take "Shit no one has ever believed" for 500 Alex
I genuinely see no difference between UB and hat planets like OTJ.This game was cooked at WAR.
Sigh, I was unbelievably excited for today. Spent the last two weeks in a fervent state of hype. Big day arrives, made sure I was ready the moment it opened, spent 5hrs in line for my favorite comic book hero’s secret lair drop, only to be denied. I’m really just sad now…
>>94325942>le sighWhy the fuck are there so many reddit paypiggies ITT talking about their funkypop slop?
Should I just put iron man in the captain America deck, build storm and wolverine, and sell the black panther one?
>>94325937Because there is no difference.
>>94325952You should jump from the top floor of Stark Tower
For a second I was hoping this would mean seeing less UB in the wild and then remembered that it's going to be half of standard going forward...
>>94325932sounds like that would bump the commander cost up to ~5cmc and destroy his ability to start building an army early
>>94325966Eh, it's not as strong as you think. It does dickall against exile removal and because regeneration taps the creature you can't use it to make a brick wall that no player can attack through.
>>94325905Not bad. Would have expected just this as a creature but this isn't half bad either. I think I like persist better. Unless maybe there was a way to make his return effect include destroying a skeleton instead of sacrificing? That way it would possibly work if the skeleton had regenerate.
>>94325925Extra planar travel is an element of D&D, not the major focus that most of the lore and mechanics revolve around.>And you can't disallow it at your table, because Sponge-Bob is in a core bookYou can disallow whatever you want if you're the DM. It's not like D&D isn't already 50% retarded homebrew expansions now anyway. In the same way that you don't actually have to include any of these cards in the deck you play if you and you're friends dont like them.
uh oh oink oink paypggiesshould have taken time off work now you have to pay the pricesizzle that bacon
>>94325966How about (B/G): Regenerate Target Skeleton
>>94325960This is legitimately the death of Magic one way or the other.Either gamers rise up and don't buy the UB slop, Wizards loses a shit load of money and shuttersOr more likely, reddit paypiggies spend a billion dollars each on UB slop and original planes are completely erased except for when they want Mr Krabs and Belisarius Cawl to go to the Christmas themed plane and wear the Christmas hatsThere is no in between
>>94325982You have legitimate brain damage, you should be in the emergency room rather than typing on 4channel
>>94325925D&D already has Rick and Morty, AND Minecraft.Except in D&D you're able to just refuse them as the DM.Hell, people don't even read the PHB when playing D&D.
>>94325949>Why the fuck are there collectables nerds on my nerdy collectables board talking about their nerdy collectables!?
>>94326018This post is bait.
>>94326012
>>94325973>>94325990hm, it's definitely tempting to try bringing regenerate back. I'll think about it.>>94325976>a way to make his return effect include destroying a skeleton instead of sacrificingnot sure if such cost mechanics even exist. I think it can work with just tapping a few skeletons.
>>94325986>should have taken time off workI did. Still only got Iron-Man and Black Panther.
>>94326042Interestingly, it doesn't need to be part of the cost. Having "B/G: Destroy target skeleton. Return ~ from your graveyard to the battlefield." would require you to have a valid target to activate the ability.
>>94325998most people at my LGS are hyped about the UB sets lined up and intend to buy them, and historically also loved things like Assassins Creed. only the boomers seem to share my taste for the older theming/art.almost certainly gonna be the latter
>>94325998The first can't happen.UB SLs are in such limited supply they'll never realistically flop if not from players then from scalpers.The standard sets mean it's mandatory to play UB in standard, and most probably pioneer. Modern and legacy already has it but it can only get worse. So unless players leave the game in droves, none of the UB boosters will flop provided they aren't born of the gods power level
>>94326067I hate when I see the modern printing of certain cards.
>>94325674>likes red>no blue yetIzzet commander? There’s plenty of good options.
>>94326067God that's depressing. I don't play a single UB card in any of my decks. I have never bought and never will buy UB or SL. All of the upcoming sets sound painfully cringe worthy.Does your LGS sell fukopops by any chance?>>94326077>So unless players leave the game in droves,I'm going to. Foundations is going to be the last set I buy for over a year, Wizards made that decision. Lorwyn was literally the only set I was looking forward to and they pushed it back to 2026 to make room for the secret UB (it's World of Warcraft)I'm not interested in the Wacky Races themepark, I'm not interested in the Unfinity themepark, I'm not interested in the millenial-core UBs. I literally will not spend a fucking penny.
stupid piece of shit game is giving me herpes man..7 turns, 6 lands.. eat my ass, game
>>94326164>World of WarcraftThis sounds like it would have missed it's time years and years ago.
>>94326191>he doesn't have the heart of the cardssucks to suck
>>94326197Could say that about pretty much any UB.A resident schizo explained his theory about it. Something to do with Warcraft's anniversary and Blizzard suddenly price-matching Wizards on the dice they sell or something??I don't fucking know. Sounds about as probable as anything else.I did have my own thought on this last night and what I realized might be more likely, but I literally forgot
>>94326197Just like every other UB then?
>>94326164>Does your LGS sell fukopops by any chance?I have never seen a modern LGS that did not stock at least some funkopops
>>94326101Worst possible take
Rate my Muxus deck.Should I add some flicker stuff to it?(Panharmonicon, Conjuror's closet, etc)https://www.moxfield.com/decks/7gucy1lY10eKuWDLj7C3Vw
>>94324337Dr Who isn't capeshit. I don't care about the series, I just felt like building it solely on the mechanical aspects. I'm not super opposed to UB, I meant that I'm not interested in any superhero stuff in general.
>>94326214>Could say that about pretty much any UB.Eh, some more than others. Assassin's Creed is the big one that stands out as something I have no idea what they were thinking doing it. That series hasn't had anything noteworthy since Black Flag which was over ten years ago. Everything else had something going on at the time. World Of Warcraft feels somehow even less relevant.
Sorry chud, I won't play against your proxy Wolverine.Real or gtfo.Thanks for stopping by.Why yes, I am friends with the owner.
>>94326284That's fine, I'll play k'rrik. And yes I will take a 10 minute turn on t2 and you will wait while I cast all my spells and resolve each trigger.
>>94326284Dead game, who cares.
>>94326281>World Of Warcraft feels somehow even less relevant.Pretty sure WoW numbers are up again or some shit.But the schizo anon pointed out there's no real reason to keep it a secret. Sure, from a marketing perspective you want "surprises" but they announced literally every other UB for the year, and even displaced the Lorwyn set just to make more room for UB. There's some WoW anniversary or some shit next year, so that would be a reason to delay announcing the set until Blizzard can announce whatever the fuck else they're doing.Also, compared to other theories it's actually more relevant. That creepy retard on TCC says he thinks it's going to be Game of Thrones. Bizarre take. Show has been over for years, didn't end well, there is no new book, and the setting isn't even especially magical enough to fit in to the basic mechanics of the game, the entire point is that magic is basically dead and still is even at the stage the books are up to. There's like less than 50 strictly magical things that have even happened and only a few characters are even aware of it.
The takeaway for this fiasco is that WOTC is a disgrace to MTG and Marvel fans alike. The positive takeaway is that anyone who did not get their product avoided spending. Just be strong and don’t let scammers get the best of you
>>94326042Zabaz kinda does that already.
>>94326316Apparently some people have talked with the people in charge of the UUB set and they're REALLY excited to be working on it, but that doesn't narrow it down that much. It could be anything except Harry Potter to be honest.
>>94326332>It could be anything except Harry Potter to be honest.Yeah I was just thinking that lol. Can't be seen as anti-tranny, plus Strixhaven wasn't that long ago.
Cosemere UB would probably be the only UB I would actually be excited for. But if they had secured that, they'd just announce it. And probably make Vin black.
>>94326332Elder Scrolls
>>94326374There are two things I expect from an elder scrolls set1: An extremely pushed Dagoth Ur card2: Alduin to be a 6/4 flying for 4RR. No other stats
>>94326340Like, I don't know TOO much about what Chris Mooney, who I think is in charge of that set, is into. But does identify as non-binary, and I think has been particularly anti-Rowling on Twitter in the past. Seems to like a whole bunch of things, so nothing to really pick up on in particular as "something this person would be extra excited to be in charge of making a Magic set for", that doesn't already have a set (and we know it's NOT Marvel). Disco Elysium comes up now and then but that's nowhere near the level of "getting a full set", and probably wouldn't ever get one anyway just for how inherently political it is. Kingdom Hearts and Star Wars too, but KH is too FF-adjacent and probably wouldn't get a set all its own, and Star Wars just doesn't seem likely in the same year as Edge of Eternities.
>>94326397>Multi-format warping Divayth Fyr
>>94326374The problem with most theories is you have to explain why they wouldn't just announce it now like they did literally every other UB for next year. Especially when they DID announce that they're pushing back Lorwyn for it.>>94326400>Star WarsCan't happen, there is literally a Star Wars card game, what would be the point?
>>94326409I mean FF and Marvel also have card games, but Star Wars' card game is a bit more recent and 'big'.
>>94326411>Star Wars' card game is a bit more recent and 'big'.They also sell their counters for $30
>>94326058>>94326330right, that would work.>>94325973I think I cannot justify a constantly regenerating token army, but I think I could do it just to Mr. Bones.
>>94326409I mean, they didn't announce Marvel when they did that big announcement of several years' worth of sets after MOM. Granted, they didn't even say 'something was happening' there, just not at all mentioned.
>>94326424Do you intend him to make a token if any player makes a skeleton? That'll get a little stupid if someone clones him, and by stupid I mean 'loop that draws the game unless someone has removal'
>>94326427"we have a set, we just can't say what it is, but we're delaying lorwyn" warrants an announcement
>>94326424The wording on that last one is just genuinely bizarre. Are you looking for the word "Sacrifice"? Come to think of it "The ride never ends" is also worded a bit strangely and could just specify nontoken skeletons to get mostly the same effect.
>>94326446It's destroying a skeleton instead of sacrifice specifically so that the skeleton can be regenerated.
>>94326443Yeah, fair. It's odd they didn't announce it, but not THAT odd. I dunno, fuck it, maybe it's Discworld, I dunno.
>>94326397RED CRAW WURM!!!
>>94326454Ah. Fair point. Another option would be letting you cast it from your graveyard by tapping skeletons, or straight up convoke.
>>94326435>That'll get a little stupid if someone clones himthanks, gonna fix it. I wanted it to trigger globally because nobody ever uses skeletons anyways, but I don't want to trigger infinite loops>>94326446>specify nontoken skeletonsno, because I want to trigger with skeleton tokens too (skeleton crew, skeletal swarming, Death-Priest of Myrkul etc)
>>94326467counterpoint - infinite loop that ends the game in a draw because of too many skeletons is EXTREMELY Mr. Bones
>>94326458I probably wouldn't mind discworld. But from their other announcements you have to assume they're mass targeting millenials. FF, Spongebob, Marvel. Discoworld is way too niche
>>94326467You could make it a replacement effect? if a skeleton would enter, instead that skeleton plus a 1/1 token enters? I don't think replacement effects can trigger themselves, but that might be a weird case. You could also make the skeletons created by Mr bones have a special name and have the ability check for that instead. Having it check for itself just seems clunky.
>>94326476hm... HMMMM>>94326494>if a skeleton would enter, instead that skeleton plus a 1/1 token entersI was thinking about that, but I don't know any replacement effects for adding tokens to non-token creatures, only for tokens themselves. could possibly do it like this with special tokens:>whenever you a non-special skeleton enters, create a special skeleton
>eat a 16/16 annihilator2 commander>empty hand>1 5/5 commander left>2 dudes with boards in the 50/50>hurr.. bro, why did you concede?I dunno man, you tell me..I need some sort of "annihilate moron" card.Or maybe just play an apocalypse cause fuck you.
>>94326539Yeah it could check for the name and create skeleton tokens with that specific name.
>>94326556You're just going to sit there until the game is over, so why not actually play? Did you actually have zero outs, or did you just rage quit?
>>94326577>0 cards in handWhat do want me to do, man. Best I could have done was blasphemous act if I miraculously drew it and it didn't get countered and then.. nothing would have changed since everything is tough enough to survive.
>>94326539Yeah I'm increasingly sure that "no one clones Mr. Bones" being the only thing that keeps the game solvent is extremely good and very funny
>>94326539>Creatures are skeletons in addition to their other types. The same is true for creature spells and creature cards that aren’t on the battlefield.
>>94324218I'm just proxying these and if someone gives me shit for it I will literally smack them. If WOTC doesn't want to sell me shit then I'm proxying.
>>94326596then there would be no reason to bring skeletons
>>94324218I couldn't get them even though I got there at 8:45. So much for that guy who said overreacting about the exclusitivity of these was stupid, because you'd easily be able to get it if you got there on time lmao.
>>94325117>the multiverse that has finite planesnot even a multiverse. That's called a planet.
>>94326628Okay. Creatures you don't control, then.
>>94325060NTA but you are a bootlicking faggot
>>94325209I got money from them because they like to break the law and then just settle to class actions in courts (and you don't have to join a class action. You are just automatically part of it.) By all means, copy ticket master so I can sue and make more money.
>>94325179I mean I'll just use it and refuse to leave>BUT DA COPSA man in my apartment complex beat the fuck out of his wife and kept the entire apartment up for 6 hours, cops came out 4 times, never even so much as arrested the guy. Cops aren't going to do fucking SHIT about some dude not leaving your shitty ass shop.
>>94325935doctor who had some of the most interesting designs of the past 5 years
>>94325986I did take time off though. Their entire site broke with no ETA on fixing. This is inarguably their fault.
>>94326674Anon, you literally just want another Timespiral set.
Feels like it would be pubstompy at all levels except 4.
>>94326679Dumb ass.
>>94326680You probably won't run into it since less copies of storm exist than alpha black lotuses.
>>94326671>Cops aren't going to do fucking SHIT about some dude not leaving your shitty ass shop.Listen bucko, I have been assured by anons in these threads that police are basically at the beck and call of any store owner in a completely peaceful issue of trespass. They WILL drop everything they're doing to attend the scene. They WILL NOT leave until the situation is resolved. They WILL use force to remove the trespasser.
>>94326689Well I'll own one so
>>94326700Sell it since it is worth as much as a RL or numbered card
>>94326694Maybe in Dunkville Arkansas with a population of 2k this happens. In areas with a metro population of 10 mil, not so much.
>>94326680what happens when you give her double strike? the next spell storms twice?
>>94326702Perhaps>>94326707p sure yeah
>>94326707It will have two instances of Storm, yes.
>>94326707>>94326727Don't you get priority after first-strike damage? So you could storm two different spells. Not that you'd want to, it would probably be better to storm your main spell twice and then cast other spells in response to raise the storm count.
>>9432511320 is for plebs
>>94326680lol
>>94326680>Implying she is going to resolveI wish I had that image with the blue player and the blue eyes.
>>94326740You could cast something after first strike happens and before normal damage, yes. You might want to do that with Giant Growth or something in order to ramp up the damage. You definitely shouldn't do something silly like casting Relentless Assault.
>>94326760>bluetard types up his delusions onlinehow sad, you'll have no lands
>>94326652The magic universe borderline is planets floating around in space. Right down to having an upcoming Playground Set where the Planeswalkers play astronaut.
>>94326789Why would I have no lands? Explain your reasoning.
>>94326792Edge of Eternities isn't actually IN the Blind Eternities, there's no physical 'form' to the space of the Blind Eternities. It seems to be more just a plane where some essence of the BEs have bled through to it.
>>94326792Exactly. Which is why complaining about tech and non-wizard shit in magic is retarded>NOOOO THERE ARE INFINITE POSSIBILITIES BUT ALSO NO REALITY OUT OF A GOOGOLPLEX OF REALITIES HAS EVER DESIGNED TECH MORE ADVANCED THAN MAGIC CONSTRUCTS!!!!!!People who hate tech and modern shit in magic should be angry WOTC didn't make Dominaria a planet, and all the planes various countries and locations on that planet.
>>94326803I think the general argument is more against mundane tech. Fantastical tech like Mirrodin and Kamigawa is generally fine. Literally just TVs and flashlights on Duskmourn are kinda pushing it to some.
>>94326803vryn has existed forever and has been magitech
>>94325131Not a single one of his reasons had anything to do with viewing the card as an investment anon...
>>94326813Then that isn't a multiverse. Infinite possibilities means there are places with TVs and subways and shit. "EVERYTHING MUST BE MAGICAL" is not a multiverse. The issue is WOTC said multiverse when they meant planet.
>>94326832Anyone directly or indirectly defending a guy who is defending the awful SLD shit today is not a serious person worth giving time to.
>>94326835it doesn't, actually. there's different kinds of infinities. just because you have a multiverse does not mean every single thing that can ever happen in fiction happens in that multiverse
>>94326042"When Mr. Bones dies, you may sacrifice X skeletons. If you do, return Mr. Bones to the battlefield (tapped/at the beginning of X etc)"If he's too sticky and impossible to get rid of I could see him being extremely obnoxious.
>>94326835>>94326845MtG's multiverse really hasn't every been depicted as infinite in that way. It's usually closer to just a universe full of planet-sized planes. And just to prove that there aren't infinite possibilities, they also made it canon that there isn't any homophobia anywhere on any MtG plane. The MtG multiverse doesn't contain infinite splintering timelines or anything like that. There's not a version of Ravnica where everything is identical except the sky is purple. And just beyond that, the game is called Magic: The Gathering. Just because they could introduce a set on a plane where there isn't any magic or war and it's just 200 cards representing an office building full of accountants doesn't meant that anyone actually wants to see that, buy that, or have it in the game.
>TQI am brewing the UBslop queen Storm, Force of Nature. It is my intent for all of her winlines to be thematically appropriate and I am fucking cooking with some classic cards to make it happen
>>94326835Multiverse doesn’t have to be infinite. Its just multiple universes
>>94326904>I am brewing Sto-
>>94326922Based Ice Age
>>94326922thank you for adding to storm count
>>94326922Thanks for adding to my storm count
>>94326904this is the blogpost I needed today, thanks reddit!
>>94326967Didn't make it to the sale, huh
>>94326973>implying I'm a soiboi who enjoys UBshitYou're only allowed to be so many kinds of pathetic on 4chan
>>94326978We're all pathetic here, anon.
>>94326982Good thing some can read.
>StorACK
>>94327006Tricked :PP
>>94327006Thanks for adding to my Storm count
>be narcissistic fat creepy Magic youtuber>make a video about being right about 1 price prediction>ignore the hundreds of times you've been laughably incorrect when predicting prices in unboxing videos>not even 2 weeks later>release a video of the "Top Times" you were right>can't even scrape together 10lollmao
>>94327026It's neither triggered or colorless so huh?
>>94327038Not sure who you're making fun of because this seems to apply at least to 40% of them
I love this card so much it's unreal. It's absolute kino that elevates every game. I slapped it on a guy's Blightsteel over the weekend.
>>94327049
>>94327055Yeah, no lie detected here
>>94327055>Blightsteel didn't have hasteHe deserved it, to be honest
>>94327059Ok but that's not Tibalt's Trickery
>>94327052
>>94327072Mercy but he does look degenerate
>>94327038I like the Professor fine, but he needs to stop having so many disgusting trannies on shuffle up and play. I guess that’s the price you pay for living in Portland
>>94327068Anon, I...
>>94327077>>94327080He looks like he never learned to smile. Once you see it you can't stop noticing it.
>>94327081Just tell me I'm a dumbass and move on ig
>>94327083That's so weird, I was thinking the same exact thing, that he never learned to smile
>$5 common in 12 months
>>94327083Some people just smile like that. I went to high school with a girl whose smile I would describe as “the face you make when they attach a car battery to your nipples.”
>>9432711020 cent common, now and forever
>>94327115She does not sound fun, famalama
>>94327110they're going to be printing foundations for five years anon
>>94327115>I would describe as “the face you make when they attach a car battery to your nipples.”Do I have to ask how you know what that looks like?
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/DVrnGhleikmdMH9KsJXVnwWhat does /edhg/ think of my recently put together +1/+1 counter (with landfall subtheme) deck?
>>94327115sounds like you couldve been the one to teach her how to smile for real
>>94327115this begs the question what face would she make when you attach a car battery to her nipples?world needs to know, for science!
>>94327123They'll keep printing Rat Colony and Relentless Rats too ($5)
>>94326101He clearly doesn't wish to play the worst color in the game.>>94325674
https://www.reddit.com/r/CuckoldMTG/new/
>>94327133I almost think Kodama of the West Tree would function better as a commander for the 99, but I'm mostly just glad it's not a black panther deck.
>>94327187I ain't clickin that shit
>bargaining table draws A card not X cardsFuck I've been using this for months and no one's corrected me.Did I get berenstain beared? I've shown it to multiple people in games and everyone thought you were drawing equal to opponents handsize
>>94327281stoopid
>>94327289Yes
After all these years, it finally happened: I trapped an opponent under pic related at -7 life. That was a perverse feeling of dominance.Eventually, I had the entire table at negative life and sacced it. Not bad for a 2014 precon.
>>94327233I clicked it. It's worse than you think.
>>94326191You missed a single land drop lmao why are you seething
>>94325589you could always check the website of the LGS you're going to. Mine has a buylist option where you can search your card to see if they're buying it; and at what price.
>>94327339>Eventually, I had the entire table at negative life and sacced it. Not bad for a 2014 precon.How did that card in any way help you though? You reduced everyone to 0 and then just allowed the game to continue for no real reason.
>>94327038I attribute most whining about prof to jealousy
>>94327368Can't sac it until everyone is below 0, not just 1 or 2 players
>>94325589The couple times I've sold, I've regretted it. Not because I got ripped off or anything (although I will say those bastards have a tendency to low-ball their estimates, and that's BEFORE they calculate the percentage of that value they actually intend to purchase at) but because so many times I have been building a deck and realized I actually have a lot of the cards I'm looking for in my junk boxes. Or a card that doesn't fit a play style I'm interested in now will be perfect later.
>>94327368they get kept around and can't kill you or they lose
>>94327374That's because where you ought to have a functioning brain there is only wet sloppy diarrhea.
>>94327382>>94327390They have already lost. If they don't have life gain it is literally impossible for them to win that game without some alternate wincon
>>94327405You're overthinking it, anon
>>94327409Is this bait? How is that overthinking it. Sure they can't kill you and win the game, but assuming they need to kill you to win the game, they can't win.Persecutor does literally nothing to a game state where you were capable of reducing all your opponents to 0 in the first place
>>94327405>if they don't have lifegain>2024are you retarded?
>>94327400No, I just know this site gets angry at anyone being successful at things they do not believe should earn you money. As well as angry when someone has a personality instead of LEJUN ANONYMOOSE PATRONUS EXPECTO
>>94327436Oh so it is just my turn to be gaslit? I have decks for almost every color pair and I don't have any life gain in any of them unless life matters.>Will Scion of Peace>Willowdusk Essence Seer >Eriette of the Charmed Apple>Firja Judge of ValorAnd in the last one, the life gain is mostly to balance the life paying effects.My boros, dimir, selesnya, simic, and izzet decks have pretty much no life gain at all. If its even just stapled on to other effects and I forgot about it, then it's because it's not going to net me more than 3 or 5 per game. If you're not specifically playing a life gain deck or vampires, and your opponent drops you into the negative its fucking over.
>>94324652It has nothing to do with profit. It has everything to do with getting investors to buy stocks. They don't give a fuck if this cost them 5 billion, as long as investors with no brains thought it was good. Really, they could just lie to investors if it wasn't a crime. They aren't paying attention anyway.
>>94324776This is the only site I have seen any degree of defense toward this sale today lmao.Anyone defending this shit should be shot.
>>94327439>No, I just know this site gets angry at anyone being successful at things they do not believe should earn you moneySo you're starting from a point of bad faith. That anons get angry merely at success. There are no successful people that anons are generally happy for? And those that anons are angry at, it's because they're successful rather than being some aspect of that person's personality? Their behavior? Even how they attained their success?Bad faithThe Professor is a creepy narcissist. The man practically oozes, every time he fake-smiles or condescends.He's also atrociously bad at his job. The whole reason it's worth commenting on him bragging about being right is because he consistently over-estimates card value on his channel sometimes by factors of 10. The guy does nothing but play and talk about Magic and he's still somehow completely out of touch with what a card costs.And then there's his other bad takes like brow-beating JLK over his response to the RC folding like a bunch of bitches.Just a slimy unintelligent little man. If we have to have someone be the "face" of the community to redditors and other normies, I would at least like it to be someone who doesn't have the charm and demeanor of a creepy uncle, and who doesn't constantly show that he has no instinct for the game that is literally his entire life.If any of those points were about him being successful for something people shouldn't make money out of, let me know.
>>94327506For a guy who tries to portray himself as Mr. Congeniality the sleaze just radiates off of every still image of him. It's weird because in motion it's not nearly as bad.
>>94327520>the sleaze just radiates off of every still image of him. It's weird because in motion it's not nearly as bad.It's definitely there in motion. He tends to smile whenever he ends a segment. Like "so let's take a look at [x]!" cue creepy smileIt's so obvious that he's either scripted the smile, or just conditioned himself to smile at the end of a take. Idk but it's fucking weirdAlso, I'm not saying there is any ill-intent on his part for this, but TransLifeline literally got caught for embezzling and had to pay back 100k. Even ignoring that, their service is famously terrible, their phones are almost never manned (no pun intended), and their volunteers are in no way qualified.I believe he has donated to them or done charity stuff for them, and I just don't know how it is possible to publicly give money to a charity when their reputation is so bad and so easy to look it.Is it that he doesn't know or he doesn't care?
>>94327506>accuses others of bad faith>types this shit Lmao
>>94327546He gets a tax writeoff for it and you have no idea how bad a charitable organization has to act in order for it to even get noticed, let alone acted upon. These organizations are by definition aimed towards the marginalized and even the socially-conscious rarely perform due diligence on what they donate to. It's pigs at the trough, man.
>>94327551Do you understand what bad faith is? It's not the same as a negative opinion.You went in with bad faith by literally saying you assume that anyone who has negative views of the professor is jealous of his success "at things they do not believe should earn you money."I then laid out exactly my reasons for disliking him, none of which were to do with your assumption.Where is the bad faith on my part?
>>94327573This is so fucking funny he doesn't get it
>>94327567It doesn't help that it's intentionally made difficult to look into this shit. Their wikipedia page doesn't mention it at all.
>>94327602That's where all the loopholes are so duh.
Can we please stop pretending that anyone cares about magic IP? We play magic because the game mechanics are fun. No one would give a shit about phyrexia or lorewyn if it wasn't for the gameplay.
>>94327607Aha, it is mentioned on 1 individual's wikipedia page. Just so you know I'm not full of shithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Chaubal#EmbezzlementIt was discovered by internal audit in 2018, and was actually $353,703 not 100k as I initially said.I get that it was 6 years ago and those people were fired, but I still wouldn't trust an organization like that. They were literally the founders.But yeah bringing it back to MtG, Professor big MtG youtuber, if he really wants to help trans people he might consider a different charity. Pic very much related.
>>94327624I liked the IP. Back when they had some kind of care for it. Feels like they don’t really give much of a shit anymore with so many new sets being planeswalker playground sets. And that’s even beyond the fact that they CLEARLY don’t give a shit and are offloading 50% of their work to nostalgia bait crossover IP sets to avoid having to actually write their setting
>>94327624>Can we please stop pretending that anyone cares about magic IP? We play magic because the game mechanics are fun. No one would give a shit about phyrexia or lorewyn if it wasn't for the gameplay.Wow a post that states the exact inverse of reality. What a novelty!
>>94327665>people do crime >others punish get rid and separate themselves from initial people>you don't trust them stillThank God most people aren't as fucking retarded as you
>>94327673If it was the inverse of reality, UB wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is
>>94327675>charity founders embezzle 350k>hm yes surely they must have improved by now!If you wanna take that on faith, anon. It's not like it was 20 or 30 years. The same people who were there during the embezzlement are probably still there now. And as I said earlier, even putting that aside the charity is notorious for being managed very poorly.It's almost as if a charity doesn't suddenly get good when 2 bad actors are ousted, rather they bad actors got away with it so long because everyone else isn't very competent
>>94327624I agree, but only partially. I started playing MTG in 2019, and the parts of the lore i actually like are stuff like phyrexia, or lorwyn, ravnica, and honestly everything Urza-era. But the thing is that those are all old, most of the modern era MTG is just varying levels of "ok". Like Innistrad, Tarkir, Ixalan, those are all planes really beloved by the community but in my honest opinion they are all just very generic fantasy settings and are in of themselves somewhat derivative. The appeal of Innistrad isn't that its particularly interesting as a piece of fiction, its that you get to see classic horror trops in magic card form. Kamigawa isn't particularly good fiction either, its just cool to see Japan in magic card form. Tarkir is just mongols and dragons. True, all of these are leagues better than the slop we get in stuff like Duskmourne, Thunder Junction and etc, but they're still just fundamentally mediocre. I saw someone making fun of Wizards by saying something in the lines of "imagine how crazy it would be if 40k suddently did UB crossovers with star wars", but that would never happen because 40k's setting is just leagues better than anything MTG has ever had.
>>94327624I care because I really am attached to not-gandalf and not-sauron and not-legolas and not-gimli
>>94327681Are you saying UB is popular because of the mechanics...?
>>94327673Do you actually truly believe that the reality is most people play for the IP and not due to the gameplay and mechanics of the game? Because that is straight up delusional.
>>94327705>Don't mess with us MTG players: we can't read
>>94327707I literally only got into Magic because I liked the faeries. I was excited for Lorwyn.I am not excited for any UB slop.
>>94324218>Storm is not a HumanWhat did the WotC mean by that?
>>94327714this just reads like they havent printed one you like, not that you hate UB out of some principle.
>>94327714So you don't really care for the game itself? Why play?
>>94327719That she is a mutant? Are you retarded?
>>94327719>Wolverine, Best There Is is not a HumanDurr, what did Wotc mean by dat?
>>94327719>Yjk
>>94327699It's not like when we say lore we literally mean reading a fucking book or the articles WotC puts out. That shit is just a necessary evil to get a sense for the plane and its characters, as aspects of the lore they are absolutely reasons to play.Duskmourn and TJ happened because Wizards is turning planes into themeparks.Innistrad was a setting in the way Curse of Strahd is a setting. Yes it is derivative, but that doesn't mean it isn't original and interesting.>>94327720It is inherently cringe, I don't think it is possible for them to print a UB I would like because their entire purpose is to capitalize on some mass-marketable name recognition.It's not as if they can print a set from a franchise I like and suddenly I'll 180. I fundamentally despise the concept.I've never understood why people would want to mod characters from other games into Skyrim for example. To me this is the exact same shit. I play Elder Scrolls because I like the world of Elder Scrolls. It doesn't matter that it's derivative, there's inevitably a unique take on old concepts and the world is self-contained. Why would I want to see or play as Spider-Man in that world?Same fucking shit.>>94327724The game is fine. I don't think it's some masterpiece. I think it's incredibly janky, frequently unintuitive, and held together with 20 years of sellotape and string. Mechanically I like when the effect of a card reflects it's concept in a satisfying way sure, but if every card was just blank with an effect, no I wouldn't fucking play. I don't think most people would. No one is really playing exclusively for the mechanics.
Anyone ever gotten foil proxies from MPC? How are they? Do they stick out real bad compared to actual MTG foils?
>>94327761Damn so the people who hate UB are the same people who will never mod Skyrim. I can see why y'all get so heated about stuff now
>>94327795>never mod Skyrim.Work on your reading comprehension.I've never understood why people would want to mod characters from other games into Skyrim for exampleDidn't say I never mod it, I said I don't mod in characters from other fucking games.
>>94324266>The BeastI wish he was fun and didn't suck. I want to play LITERALLY SATAN as my commander. But he seems unfun and really shit.
Okay, give me mad shit again.I tried to do what anons told me and added all sorts of "make shit" to then "sac shit"https://archidekt.com/decks/9928751/vamps
>>94324624That completely defeats most of the point, though? The problem is they CAN'T reprint this shit later because Copyright law trumps all. The issue was that they cannot print THE FIFTEENTH DOCTOR or whatever in 7 years without renewing licenses. Or being given some indeffinite license that no sane company would give.So if that is what they said then they have effectively stated mechanically unique UB will not be reprinted. It is funny how that caused a mega uproar in the community 4 years ago but this time everyone just shrugs about it.UW reprints were introduced as a way so they could keep printing these cards after their license expired. Not to appease faggots who refuse to use cards that don't have Bimblurza the artifucker on it.
>>94324426You'd think they'd try not to mimic a company that gets slapped by the feds frequently, and also loses class action lawsuits regularly.
>>94327795Correct
>>94327856He probably needed Eminence
>>94324958>get on at 8:45>log in entirely breaks>click to checkout within 0.1 nanoseconds>6 hour line>line then pauses with no ETA on if it will come back in 5 minutes or 5 days, with a message to go to xitter, which had nothing there about the issue until like 10 minutes later>finally restart line>site breaks and kicks people out, empty their carts etc>exploit existed that allowed scalpers and those in the know to skip the line and buy out all stock>200 dollar order special card sells out and scalpers are seen with 40 of them on sitesHow wasn't it botched? People waited upwards of 4 hours to get a product only to get to check out and see the product was gone and they legit wasted their time.Also real weird to me their carts even work that way. If I am in line at a physical store, some fucker can't run by and grab the shit in my cart so that I get to the front and suddenly have nothing.Whether you got this or not was up to luck, mainly Or knowing an exploit.
>>94324529>sold out idk seems like they sold the exact amount of all of them they expected
>>94327567I've got a friend who used to work for a consulting company that dealt with a lot of charities, and the stories he has were more than enough to convince me that it's never a good idea to donate anything other than food, clothes, or time.Even without embezzling it is stupidly simple to get rich by running a nonprofit.
>>94327946They missed out on money. This isn't an argument. It is a simple fact. In terms of money from the product itself, you cannot argue that selling less is better than selling more. I mean you can but you just look like an idiot.
>>94324834the mental this guy gives people is crazy, none of them want to block thinking the morph creatures are actually scary but are just 6 mana vanillia 3/2s
>>94327945>People waited upwards of 4 hours to get a product only to get to check out and see the product was gone and they legit wasted their time.Suckers lol
>>94327887Looks alright so far. Don't know about Death-Priest of Myrkul for one. But besides that this looks playable and something you could start test playing with. Besides that, if you plan on sacrificing things I would think that maybe a Feign Death like effect or two may help in the times you need a sacrifice but don't want to completely lose a creature or you want to get a second shot at an enter the battle trigger. An Ashnod's Altar probably wouldn't hurt as well considering how much creature generation you have. Helps when you need a way to generate mana after your commander gets taken out once or twice. And maybe a Reanimate and an Animate Dead too. While you're on this line of temporary tokens, Sundial Of The Infinite could be a fun include. Do you plan on sacrificing her to blow opponents out or do you plan on hitting with her once she gets big? If it's the first then you'll for sure need some revival stuff. If it's the second then a haste enabler would probably help.
>>94327953I said fuck it after about 40 minutes. Glad I did.
>>94327887This is just a really gay a Juri with dogshit art. Fuck sakes the new generation are gleefully destroying this game
>>94327960It's never worth it bro. For one thing, you shouldn't be paypiggying for Secret Lair slop. I want to make that clear so you don't get the wrong idea and think I'm condoning this absolutely shameful behavior.But on top of that, I've bought concert tickets once or twice and it's the exact same shit. At least there, the band is probably going to do more shows.Don't get FOMO'd into this shit. In even a couple MONTHS time you will not care. In a couple years you won't even remember that you cared to begin with.
Is Baylen fun? Looking for a new bloomburrow commander after having my fun with Ygra, Bria, and a little bit of Cruelclaw.
>>94327975If they weren't mechanically unique, I wouldn't. Unfortunately I am aware they are mechanically unique and that the "reprint promise" was quietly shuttered. These are also pushed. I don't like new cards that should of probably been precon commanders, becoming immediate RL that I can never play with.But I just took the proxy pill instead. 26 bucks from MPC (with a bunch of other shit.) Much better deal. These absolutely will not see a reprint, though. Not until 2028 at the absolute earliest. I'd hazard probably around 2031
>>94327954I guess it's a lil expensive just to make a single 1/1 for 1 mana, huh..I actually haven't even thought about wanting to bring one of my real creatures back. I'm mostly focused on making trash for the grinder. The altar sounds cool tho.Unless she would kill, I don't plan on killing her off. That's why I've got all that equipment and redirects to protect her. She's supposed to just sit on her ass and get fat and juicy. And I guess should she happen to get blasted anyways, pay the 2 as a "fuck you too"
>>94327989>If they weren't mechanically unique, I wouldn't. Unfortunately I am aware they are mechanically uniqueBuddy it's never going to matter. There's over 25,000 cards out there. Most you aren't even aware of, and many that you probably couldn't get if they were.Proxy if you want, but man you have to learn to accept that this shit doesn't actually matter.
>>94327995That's fine. I would prefer to get in with her as well myself rather than just sacrificing on and on. Juri would have been better if the goal was flinging her. In that case, yeah I definitely suggest getting some haste in there. A Hammer of Purphoros, Rising Of The Day, Fervor, Anger, that kind of thing. And for sure. If you just want to grind things up to feed her then you don't exactly need reanimation. Just a suggestion since black has no end of that kind of effect.
>>94327982It's a lot of different tokens so I hope you enjoy tracking them. I've built him with a focus on non creature tokens. Food and treasure mostly but also running an equipment subtheme with bloodforged battleaxe and then sunforger for interaction.
I WON'T BUY THE CARDBOARD FUNKOPOPSI JUST WON'T DO ITAHAHAHAHA
Got my next commander in the mail
>>94328255What's the deck looking like?
>>94328230Cool. How are you going to make a deck with a 4/4 jeskai commander that can use equipment for burn?
>>94327110>64 Hares>35 LandsWhose the best commander for this deck?I'm Thinking Brago or Yorion
>>94328300not built yet, just a pile of zombies and red/blue tricks set aside for nowgonna have to go shopping to get the stuff that might make him fun
Pimping out my Squirrel deck in honor of peanut , and probably building Bello bard of the brambles to honor Fred .Better get them raised foils will rise just like dem confetti foils from wilds o eldraine .
>>94328312I simply will not because I'm not a FOMO faggot. You don't have to play literally every possible commander in the game, spoiler you never will
>>94328312I lose white but oh well.
>>94328349But I want to play that commander.
>>94328360>I lose white but oh well.So you lose the primary equipment color?
>>94328380Oh well. Still got both of the other artifact colors and run a nice thematic piece like Toshiro in the 99.
>>94328328Preston is the obvious choice but any blink commander is fine. Genku for instance could go really wide.
>>94328375Proxy.Or be honest anon. We won't judge you, just say "oink oink, I'm a fat little paypiggy and I want to own the cardboard funko pop slop"Because that's what it really comes down to. If you just wanted to play, you'd proxy. You want to own the bit of cardboard with your favorite capeshit on.
>>94328447>If you just wanted to play, you'd proxy.>everyone wants to """"""own"""""" fake game piecesgod just kill yourself
>>94328468I'll take that as a concession.You accept that actually it's not about the card or its effects, you just want to collect the cardboard funko pops like a good lil paypiggy. Ol' Farmer Rosewater will fill your slop bucket up double for being so honest.
>>94328533I have no idea how deep your mental illness needs to be to post like this, but I'll accept you're broken
>playtesting Sidar>having a good time>finding it really reliable>decide to peek through knights again just because>find these>a way to protect myself from combat>nonbasic hate>cheap double strike enablerI'm also very much considering Earnest Fellowship to give all creatures protection from their own colors. Other than against White (of which I have two targeted removal), all of my removal/protection is blanket and my targeting effects are never directed at my own boys.
I haven't played edh since Ikoria. How powercrept are my decks? I was looking through the new cards from over the years and it feels like my Heliod deck would have a massive power increase from using all the new white cards compared to shit like Knight of the White Orchid.
>>94328670They print commander cards in every set, so you're almost guaranteed to improve your deck with new cards
Just went through both Foundation + Found. jumpstart EDH sets..Holy fuck it's bad, really bad. Nothing salvageable from the standard set beside Kiora, the Rising Tide. Then after that the only 2-3 cards who will retain a modicum of value will be edhtimmy-targeting semi-garbo like Bloodthirsty Conqueror or Rite of the Dragoncaller because they fit popular mechanics.On the Jumpstart side it's a *bit* better, but really nothing to be happy about. Only 3 good cards are >Dionus, Elvish Archdruid>Scythecat Cub>Pol Jamaar, Illusionistand>Plagon, Lord of the Beachas 4th place. Utterly boring le draw cards and le +1/+1.If anyone had for idea to spec on singles from Foundation, they better keep moving, even $2 rares from MH3 hold 10x the growth potential compared to the best this set has to offer.
>>94328670They print a set every week now, so expect your decks to be powercrept in consequence, even if you were playing some niche stuff.
>>94328631>Earnest FellowshipWhat do you even do with this card? You lose out on removal and can't block anymore
>>94328699Consider Sidar alone, he's White/Blue/Black. No creature that's White/Blue/Black could block him, and while he can't block them either, he's designed to turn sideways on the field. It disrupts targeted removal, especially in White/Black/Blue which have all of the stuff I'm worried about (exile, destroy, and bounce). Enchantress strategies basically have to remove it since it strips their entire field naked, and overall it has lots of cool applications in terms of defense and offense.Admittedly, it fires both directions, since I'd be unable to block against White/Blue/Black decks as reliably, but it also seems like a niche card people would be surprised to see.
How do you beat enchantress decks? They draw so many cards and can play enchantments from their graveyards so even if I remove 20 enchantments a game they will still have a better board state than anyone else in the game.
>>94328750Try exiling the enchantments
>>94328750You lower your curve. Only ppl i hear complaining about enchantress have sluggish piles where the average cmc is 4.Or you accept to run hate cards, enchantress can be hit from many angles, either it be 1 spell per turn, anti-draw, pernicious deed effects,...About recursion, it's 2024, if you don't run at least 3 mass gravehate cards you aren't worth playing against. Sorry not sorry.
>>94328740sidar cant recur creatures that have protection from him
>>94328781We play modified precons in our group and one of the guys printed a cedh shrine decklist he found online
>>94328782retarded
>>94328816no hes right
>>94328782the Protection effect only applies to creatures on the field, so he can recur things just fine
>>94324465To be honest, your compliance isn't a factor.
>>94324518>We meant for the site to crash, for there to be a link to exploit and bypass our system, and for the log in system to crash and for the line to crash and need pausing! IT WAS ALL ACCORDING TO KEIKAKU!!!It selling out was planned. The site exploding wasn't part of the plan, nor were the exploits.
>>94324266Oh man I have and IRL Krark/Vial Smasher and it's one of the most fun decks I've ever played. It's goofy and menacing at the same time.
>>94328328
I'm so glad my autistic fixation with this retarded game is over. It's refocused onto lifting again, specifically hypertrophy. I'm not longer the fatass powerlifting MTG player. I have 17inch arms at 17% body fat. I'm going to get that down to 12% over the next few months. I really was holding onto being 12 and the great memories I have of playing during lunch at school Do you know what's better than nostalgia? Living in the present and having goals for the future. Bye nerds. Fuck wotc. Fuck in. And fuck all of you socially maladjusted retards. Maybe some of you will escape the hell of your disgusting bodies.
>>94329010canonically trans btw
>>94329017NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
>>94329013cool story bro, now go back to your homoerotic board
>>94329013
>>94329013I fail to see why you can't both lift and play mtg but I'm happy for you dude
>>94326898>there is no homophobiaoh yeah I forgot that. gonna steal this for the next time an UB fag tries to argue multiverse should include every possibility
>>94327624thiis man. I'd way rather play with only text cards
>>94329051You joke and yet they made full text lands and people liked it.
>>94329052that's because of novelty I thinkif magic changed to full text permanently it would actually be over. that's why people indeed do care about the magic lore just like how UB tourists like theirs. with pictures, not just mechanics
>>94328631why do you keep changing your decklist?
>>94329076Real talk, I find the act of workshopping a deck to be extremely fun and a mix of challenging, frustrating, and cathartic. Figuring out how to try and breathe life into a card that sucks on its own, or find a home for a weird ability is really satisfying. Above that, though, I always want to try out different combinations and flavors of gameplay so it never feels like there's enough room for every cool card I'm tempted by. Hell, right now I have a whole list of Knights i'm looking over>Black Knight>White Knight>Silver Knight>Chieftan en-Dal>Desperate Farmer/Depraved Harvester>Kabira Vindicator>Knight of Obligation>Knight of Sursi>Resolute Rider>Ria Ivor, Bane of Bladehold>Twinblade Paladin>Warrior en-KorHonestly, I'll probably pass on most of these but they are somewhat interesting all the same.
>>94328255Brrrrrother.He's a bit jank, but he's surprisingly functional with shadow, combat tricks and shit like arcbond, ignition, last laugh and other shenanigans
>>94329068So does this mean kawaii girls and anime monsters are inherently more popular visually than any sort of fantasy based western IP? Yugioh is more popular, and we seem to attribute a TCGs success to the card art.It makes sense for them to move away from fantasy if its art style isn't as popular anymore.
>>94329085save you the trouble>Black/White/Silver Knightall useless even for almost no mana>Chieftan en-Dalkeep this in maybe>Farmerbad and not worth it>Kabiramy nigga that thing costs like 15 mana to be bad>Obligationbetter extort cards exist>sursiif you're not playing a suspend deck this is pointless>Resolute Riderkinda cool but not that good>Ivorthis is for infect decks>Twinbladekeep>en-KorThis is a combo piece used in infinite activation cycles. If you aren't doing that, it's just a shit creature.
>>94329123I appreciate the input, and hey Kabira is totally based. It only costs 13WWWWWW for a 4/8 Knight with a middling anthem effect!>Chieftain en-DalI just realized that if I use this, Valor, and Kwende, I can get blanket double strike in a way that isn't reliant entirely on Kinsbaile Cavalier. Significantly worse than it being on a single creature, but it's not that bad, and it buffs Sidar automatically.
>>94327856It's fun to play sucky commanders and make them fun. I also wanted a home for my City of Shadows too so there's that. Nesting Grounds also can be used to bully people somewhat.
>>94329150your not running valor and kwende?
>>94329103yeah, I'm just pointing out to that the mechanics are not the factor that brings people in. sure they might stay because of them but that was not the reason anyone started in the first place
>>94329179I'm not currently, but they seem good enough to justify themselves. Honestly, some of the knights with innate first strike just get better with Kwende too so he might become a must-have depending on what I've got available.
>>94329211post decklist
>>94329228https://www.archidekt.com/decks/8532477/knightly_eminencehere you go, small maybeboard, around 10 cards
>>94329256>Student of Warfarewhy?>Knight of Grace>Knight of Malice3/2 for 2 with first strike and hexproof from color, not bad>Meadowgrainreally good>Chieftainbased and redpilled>Fiendslayer Paladinvery very good>Paladin en-Veccool but not as good as fiendslayer>Kwendeput it in>Valorput it in>Whip of Ereboslifelink and recursion good>Cavalier of Nightkind of bad hard to get 3 pips
>>94325986nah, I'll buy the card from chinaman for 2 dollars
>>94329076>why waste timeHe’s an overweight loser that lives with his parents, he’s scared to do anything meaningful.
>>94329280>Marveldrone>Also proxiggerLmao you people are pathetic.
>>94329288baited
>>94329275>why?I keep trying to find a spot for it since it's fun, but Level up isn't really worth the effort in this case>3/2 for 2 with first strike and hexproof from color, not badThey're more mana-efficient than a lot of my knights, but hexproof from their respective enemy color isn't as good as Protection, I figure>really goodAgreed completely, I also just love Lifelink in general>based and redpilledGonna keep him, Valor, and Kwende and find them slots for sure>very very good>cool but not as good as fiendslayerI'd say the protection makes up for the lack of lifelink on the same cost, since it's not even hexproof, it's spells only on Fiendslayer>lifelink and recursion goodagreed>kind of bad hard to get 3 pipsMost likely I'll be discarding it and recuring it with Sidar, not hard-casting it.
>>94329256I still don't really think that Anvil Of Bogardan is but you do you. I do wonder about that Containment Construct. Not sure you really need it when your commander has built in reanimation. I'd suggest Shay Cormac if you're looking for knights. He can help clean up otherwise unbreakable boards. Knight Of Meadowgrain is a weird include as well when you could just use Vault of the Archangel instead and get much more out of it.
>>94329281>overweight loser that lives with his parents>as an insult
>>94329314Anvil is sorta hanging on just because I haven't seen it in action yet, if it ends up being a net negative, I don't mind just swapping it over to Nekusar. >Containment ConstructThat's fair, though it does mean I can discard non-creature cards a bit more safely like going for a swing with a knight, drawing, and then tossing something like Path to Exile and just casting it so I didn't really lose anything at all. It's not perfect, but I figure at 2 cost it *might* be neat.Shay Cormac is really based too, I'll slap him into the maybeboard, I do have a copy sitting around somewhere>Vault of the ArchangelI totally forgot this card existed
>>94328997I have a Krark Thrasios already, which I haphazardly threw together and it barely works, but when it does or I get a piece that works in my favor, it's always fun. There's many things that are fun, but casting a Genesis Storm and failing the flip several times has to be up there.
>>94329326>discard non-creature cards a bit more safelyYeah, that's fair. You have a lot more nonknights in a list like this than I would expect so if you want versatility it works for that. A friend of mine has the same commander and his is pretty much exclusively knights and does a lot of damage if given a chance. Chieftain en-Dal is kind of cool, but I think I'd rather just go with Kwende, Pride of Femeref myself. He already has first strike, but more importnatly he also give anything of yours that already has first strike double strike which means Sidar gets double strike which turns into two knights reanimated. Also means you can do the little interaction where Sidar goes in and does damage with first strike and brings back Kwende, then since Kwende gives Sidar double strike he gets to follow up with normal damage as well. Also, Coat Of Arms can be a big game ender there and then.
>>94329317>stating fact>take it as an insultSeems like you know you should do better lmao.
>>94329391Yeah I really like it for extra versatility. As for the non-knights, half or so of them benefit me just for being dead like Glory, Valor, and Wonder, but i like to keep around a few creatures for extra effects like conniving with Raffine, getting draw out of Enduring Curiosity (it has the same cmc as reconnaissance mission but it comes back if killed and can be a pinch blocker), Ifnir works as a non-target, indestructible dodging blanket boardwipe if I get my stuff going, etc etc. The Kinsbaile trick is one of my favorite moves for double recusion, so being able to double it up with Kwende is super based.Chieftain en-Dal is mostly just a neat old card, and since it provides first strike to everyone when it attacks, I can potentially couple it up with Kwende (or Valor, assuming I hit that first) for everything to have a sudden double strike.>Coat of ArmsI DO have a spare one of those from Lost Caverns that I unpacked, I wonder if I should.
>>94329400>know how to read basic context and tone>this means I'm 'taking it' as an insultDon't be coy, anon. You meant to insult Swordbro.
He fun
>>94329288
>>94329401Oh, I wasn't referring to the incarnations like Glory and wonder, I was questioning Raffine or Likeness Looter. Those are usually good, but they give you something any one knight would do by itself if it attacked because of eminence. Same with The Council Of Four. But if your games have ended with you needing that kind of versatile nonknights then I can get it. Not even really sure which other knights I'd suggest. Either way Coat Of Arms is pretty good with Sidar. He gets to ignore some of the usual issues with it, buffing your opponent's tribal strategies as well, with Wonder, Glory, and horsemanship.
>>94329010>>94329017>Cadira, Carrier of the Smell
>$20 balmor shitbrew might arrive by tomorrow, just in time for commander nightShould I commit to the bit and play it unssleeved?
>Can't build mono blue infect because my playgroup will insist on 20 poison being the threshold>Can't build mono blue mill because they'll get really upset and all attack me first
>>94328447>zoomie doesnt understand the concept of ownership
>>94329420Well, the benefit of Likeness Looter is that it's a "soft" reanimation, you know? A little bit of looting when need be, and when he's done serving that purpose I turn him into something in my grave that either gives an anthem, or just doubles up on a solid dead knight like Knight Exemplar, Breathless Knight, or whatever. Raffine though, I love her because it isn't just Connive 1 or anything, a big swing turns into drawing upwards of 5-6 cards and buffing the creature sometimes by the same amount. She also goes absolutely insane with Vodalian Wave-Knight for large quantities of draw at once.>>94329445100% sleeveless, riffle shuffle it too if you can. Make it a whole thing.>>94329458Can you blame them? They can't/don't own anything, even video games are at the point where your console is designed to break in 1-2 years and every product is more about having a license instead of actually owning the thing itself.
>sidar can't reanimate things in the graveyard if they have protection from himFuckSakes
>>94329469literally untrue, anon
>>94329475Yeah I meant to reply to the retard who posted it
>>94329478I was worried you were retarded, thank goodness you aren't
>>94329458He is correct though
"I'm not scared of demon tribal." Said the control player, 10 turns before I killed the table with demon tribal.
>>94329525No one disagreed with what he's saying anon :) yes if you just wanted to play you could proxy them! I said he doesn't understand the concept or value of ownership.
>>94329565Anon you didn't play against a control player.
>>94329568I think you're just being retarded.
>>94329577And yet here you are making nonsense posts replying to people about things they straight up did not say
>>94329463>>94329256looking at your list, do you often have enough tokens to justify Maxson?
>>94329618Honestly, probably not. I only have about 5-6 cards that make tokens. I'll drop him out of the list. 1 more cut and the deck is ready again, unsure what I should hit.
>>94329463>No playmat>Sleeveless>Riffle shuffled>Held together with rubber bands>Deck box is a sandwich bag>Dice kept in sandwich bag as well (can't just have the loose)Oh yeah, it's gaming time
>>94329565I really like the theme of your deck and all, anon, but I asked if my dovins veto resolves
>>94329574>fought through multiple counterspells and removalEnjoy your false sense of security while it lasts, anon. One day the demons will come for you too.
>>94329636>Angel's Trumpetfucking why???
>>94329687>Gives my boys (and all boys) vigilance>punishes defensive gamers>neat and old
>>94329675Post your list anon
>>94329687>amazing combat/board control card>errmmmmm why? This isn't fire........
>>94329407>Give context to a question asked in the thread>This means I have to intentionally insult a tripfagWas just trying to be helpful, talking ill of a dipshit is just a bonus.
>>94329696>>94329719makes him a target and is bad for his deck where he doesnt want to attack with the knights who give keywords duh
>>94329715why should he? so you can go>oh n-no I'd totally counterspell yougrow up, you bluefags constantly screech about how anybody who complains about counterspells is a noob but whenever someone says they handle control just fine you accuse them of lying and act like they'd NEVER resolve a spell.Well which is it, is control bad or op? don't answer, just shut the fuck up, faggot bluenigger
>>94329735>WhySo i could see if you can do what you claimed. But instead of a simple list there is a paragraph of cope and now it is confirmed to be a fake story lol
>>94329724>giving everyone vigilance makes them a targetYou're SUPPOSED to attack with your creatures nigger. The card buffs everyone and rewards them for playing properly. I'd that makes you. A target you play with whiny fags lol
>>94329742anon your so fucking stupid, people hate forced combat thats why kardurr decks are so fucking hated. goad is always salt inducing because its shit but makes everyone hate you and target you, this is 100% goad but without protecting you you even get punished for not having haste because it can affect summoning sickness creatures and walls
>>94329750>peopleNo, whiny faggots hate it. People you want to play with understand you should always be swinging. Seems another pro for the card, helps you identify losers you don't want to play with
>>94329759you just sound like a sadistic faggot that doesnt understand fun >TURN YOUR CARDS SIDEWAYS OR YOUR A FAGthis is pathetic killyourself
>>94329735Lmao cope
>>94329765>>TURN YOUR CARDS SIDEWAYS OR YOUR A FAGUnbelievably based
>>94329777trips of truth, I fuckin' love combat since I started using my combat steps for triggers and putting on actual pressure>>94329724between Herald of Hoofbeats, Wonder, Valor, Kwende, Skyhunter Strike Force, Kinsbaile Cavalier, and Knight Exemplar, most of my knights are going to be frequently hard to kill and even harder to block. I considered using Brave the Sands instead for extra blocks, but it's not really that big of a deal overall, and this card seems both fun and unexpected
>>94329765>PLAY THE GAME OR YOURE A FAGI mean... yeah. That's why we shuffled up, to play. You have confirmed your whiny faggot status to me and shown that the card is very good at identifying players you don't want to waste time with
>>94329765>TURN YOUR CARDS SIDEWAYS OR YOUR A FAGcorrect. My Disrupt Decorum resolves. Now it’s game time
>>94329810>every deck has to be combat or your a fag!!!seriously your the fucking worst type of player who doesnt respect all of the games that people play youreprobably new
>>94329830Where did i say that anon? I said every player should utilize the combat phase. That is incredibly different than what you have accused me of saying you fucking niggerbrained retard
>thought about doing a deck based around animating lands, for a long time - using Nissa style effects>very risky because boardwipes not only wipe your board but also your lands>oh its ok i could make my lands indestructible, or have ways to recur them>farewell existswelp never doing that shit, fun card!
>>94329844Just play Yedora with sac outlets
>>94329844Not trying to be rude anon but how often do you see Farewell resolve? I've seen Farewell cast like twice at my LGS in pods I'm in and I've been going there weekly for a few months. Is your local meta filled with it or something?There's also lots of ways to sacrifice lands or creatures so you can put them into the grave instead of letting them get exiled like Zuran Orb, Ashnod's Altar, or even if you prefer to draw into your deck you can use Tectonic Reformation to cycle them.
>>94329844>do anything>Farewell existsJust quit the game faggot lmao
>>94329765>TURN YOUR CARDS SIDEWAYS OR YOUR A FAGBlessed be. We will swing and keep swinging and it'll be swell
heard some faggots not wanting to turn their cards sideways in here
You guys like turning your creatures sideways?
>>94329735Lol, it's fine. I'm just having a little banter with control players, no need to get all upset about them quipping back. While some control players do have a stick up their ass, I think most of them realize that combo is the meta and that they're not as all-powerful as they larp.>>94329715https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Q4yS77Faw0yWb8Y7mJFUDAHere is the decklist. Game plan is pretty simple, just play mana rock on 2 into demons. There are a few cards I'm not running because they're not flavorful enough, like Urza's Incubator. I also don't like stealing people's cards, so I'm not running Shelob, Muscle Rakdos, Valgavoth, etc. The Beast is fine since it's just till eot. I cut Master of Cruelties, Sire of Insanity, and Liliana's Contract since I didn't think they would be fun.I was thinking that the deck would be PL5, but I underestimated how strong Be'lakor was and I say it's a 6. I won earlier simple because the control player didn't have a draw/recursion engine online and ran out of answers.
>>94329861Doesn't Farewell exile graveyards as well? So even if you use sac effects to put your cards in the graveyard to avoid exiling them they'll still get exiled.
>>94329735HOLY BASED
>>94329951I believe it does, but I figure that whatever benefit you can get from it might be worth at least not just losing them out of nowhere. It's a frustrating card by design, maybe I'm just lucky I've barely seen it.
>>94329942I hate to be that guy, but as someone who also runs a Belakor deck, that is pretty underpowered, no offense
>>94329970No offense taken. I'm sure you also noticed I don't have fast mana or tutors in the deck. I know it could be stronger. lol
>>94329979Definitely, Also Jesus the price of yours made me check the price of mine, it was around 400 when I splurged on foils and cool arts, how the fuck did it get to 600
>>94329256>the bad version of sanguine bond>the bad version of exquisite blood
>>94330016Enduring Tenacity is better than Sanguine Bond, anon
>>94329942Thanks. No this didn't win against a control deck lmao. It might have won against a deck with blue in it and your dumb ass things blue = control but uhhh nah this deck is dogshit and would do nothing against an actual control deck
>>94330016I'm only playing "exquisite blood" because it's directly tacked onto a Knight. My dad unpacked a foil Enduring Tenacity when I got my house of horror bundle, so I'm definitely gonna use that if I have to pick. I also figured it was better, because it costs 1 less and destruction just brings it back once for a double feature.
>>94330025Ooga booga
>>94330016>need to remove it twice>1 mana cheaper>This makes it worseI hate old good new bad faggots without a shred of discernment so much
>>94330001Mana base is probably over 300. Need to actually play good dual lands when you're in 3 colors and not tutoring for basics with green. Then there are just a few good cards that are expensive or ones that need a reprint.>>94330032Lol, the dude described his own deck as control, countered me multiple times, and killed my creatures multiple times. I guess it's not a control deck if it loses though.
>>94330040Anon.... in fact the amount of exile enchantments at low cost outnumber PtE/StP clones by a lot!!!!
>>94330049>having some counters and removal is control nowThank you for confirming you don't know what control means anon!>it's not control if it losesWrong, its not control if it loses to this dogshit one demon a turn (after turn 5) deck lmao
>>94330047>Can actually be removed by black and redIt's worse
>>94330032like clockwork>>94329735
>>94330051>StP>1,354,503 decks>Erase>3,260 decks
>>94330068Literally nothing in your post happened anon lmao. Control is good, that's why I know he didn't face a control deck. You're welcome to look at his list anon lmao. No real recursion, no real dependable removal no real card draw mana curve over fucking 4. This deck is playing ONE demon a turn, after turn 4 at the earliest, and then maybe 2 a turn after turn 8/9. This is a dogshit deck that poses literally 0 threat. Use your fucking head
>>94330070Ironic considering >>94330061Is in 2000 decks lol but go on nigger
I see that "dies to doom blade" is sitll going strong
>>94330057Have you played non-control decks? They only run a handful of counters and removal each. If someone says their deck is control and they play a lot of counters/removal, it's a control deck. Like I explained earlier, the dude lost because he wasn't able to recur or draw more answers. You could say their deck was bad or unlucky, but it was a control deck.Also, you clearly didn't look at the list. The deck starts playing demons turn 3 and, assuming it doesn't draw Herald of Slaanesh, then it will probably start casting two demons turn 7. Seems slow, and it is, but most control decks don't kill the table that fast.
>>94330083>My niche pick card in a color with ample exile removal is fine but your niche pick card in a color that doesn't have much is cringeOpening yourself up to 2 colors that could do (almost) nothing about your combo otherwise is not "better than the original", anon>>94330111The problem isn't "dies to doomblade", the problem is "more opponents can stop this"
>>94329887yes, the card fucking sucks>>94329861easily once a night, usually twice or more
>>94330156I've never played a control deck anon that's why I know this is dogshit >well if i get my one card i can start casting one demon a turn t3 instead of 4!!!
>>94330157You really don't get what I'm saying and that's sad but also not even remotely surprising>>94330166No you don't lmao
if i consistently lose commander night but consistently win drafts at my local does that mean im good or bad at deckbuilding
>>94330214the hero of every commander game is the guy who overextends to knock down everyone's life totals, gets killed first, and makes sure it's a 45 minute game instead of a 2 hour game
>>94330194Are you retarded or trolling? The deck runs 12 mana rocks so that it can start casting a demon t3. Herald lets you start casting two demons on t4.Also, if you've never played a control deck, then you're probably the one who doesn't know shit. lol
>>94330078yes. nothing in my post happened that's why you had to write such a lengthy post assuring me that you definitely didn't fulfill my post word for word ;)
>>94329844Announce at the beginning of the game that you're running Natural Affinity and always hold up 2G.
>>94330246It didn't...? >>94330232>bro if i get my one card out of the 99 I can cast them sooner!!!!!!Cool t3 to get your first one out if everything goes right and t7 to start getting 2 out lmao
>niko player has lethal with his shard army and a dovehawk on board>"no that's a lame way to win im not going to do that">just fucks around with some stupid bullshit and passeswhy did you put it in the deck then?
>>94330511sounds like he felt guilty. I know that specific guilty look of shame from my friend every time he plays bolas citadel. during one evening, he already won 2 games because of it, then proceeded to do a mulligan with an embarrassed face when he had it on the opening hand again.
>>94330552Just cut it from the deck if it's too good. Dude also had an infinite with eldrazi displacer he refused to use. If the game is too easy challenge yourself and take the obviously good cards out to put in something more niche and unique, don't know how that's hard for some people. There's nothing impressive about doing a whacky thing if you used overwhelming card/mana advantage from staples to get there.The deck was mostly an issue because he had Serah's Sanctum in opening hand. Yet another obvious cut if he felt the deck was too good for the bracket he was playing. Either go up a level or downgrade the deck, it isn't complicated.
>>94330111>dies to doom bladenope
>>94330601>Just cut it from the deck if it's too goodyou forget that those people are somewhat insecure.in case of my friend, he used to complain a lot about some of my favorite decks which can reach critical mass and start vomiting permanents onto the board. but I never said a single word when he did the same with bolas citadel. that's how I know why he feels guilty for playing it.
>>94330156Anon please stop.I am an impartial third party and I can say with reasonable certainty that your deck is dogshit and a control deck that can be realistically called 'control' would absolutely wipe the floor with you. You have ~7 ways to draw cards, no ways to protect against boardwipes or rebuild after boardwipes, and only a single way to provide haste that is also dead to a boardwipe.In order for your deck to do anything you need to ramp up to ~5 mana, cast a demon, and then go a whole turn cycle without your demon being killed despite you having no protection or recursion. You run 0 instants and a single unplayable sorcery.You would lose to something as simple as a single card advantage engine (Phyrexian Arena) and a board wipe (Wrath of God), no blue required. If your opponent played a real control deck you would drown in their card advantage and they could afford to 1-for-1 you with anything they wanted because so few of your threats give you any value if they are answered.If your opponent casts a Search for Azcanta on turn 2 they could have a hand full of nothing but lands and I would still put them at 8:2 matchup against your deck.
>>94330644Dies to Infernal Grasp
>>94330644can this mf be more than a meme build? seems like if he is gone your deck sucks major balls.other, maybe more potent commanders to try to build a color changing deck?
>>94330669Be'lakor is the only card draw I need. The deck consistently goes pass, rock, demon, demon, commander and I draw 3 from that. I rebuild from board wipes by just playing the cards I drew. The way a high power control player actually shuts down my deck is tutoring for Torpor Orb or any other card that turns off my commander.
>>94330811>"control" player didn't save control for your very telegraphed massively impact full cardThis story just keeps getting worse for you lmao
>>94324218Thada adel with random cards from my shoebox. It's disturbing how monocolor has so much space for jank. Normally, you've got spots filled with your staple PtEs and swan songs. But now, my interaction is also spice like spelljack and counterlash.
I bought the starter kit, looking forward to making a mazes end shitpile, getting some cards I needed for Ruby, elves for Lathril, Aurelia for a boros themed deck. All the noncreature nonlands are playable and I forgot it even comes with three packs
>>94330920How're you building Ruby, nothing smaller than 4, ramp into big stuff or Cascade/discover lines?
>>94330928That's right, I'm waiting on some cards to come and for good deals on cardmarket to showhttps://www.moxfield.com/decks/MZCwhUtR90aSMF3VbIC8ig
>>94327624I care about the Goblins.
>>94330928I personally don't like nothing-smaller-than-4 because after a few games, people wise up to that and start mulliganning for cheap removal to take her out immediately and slow you down heavily
>>94329861I see farewell resolve a lot. What a dumb post
>>94331023It slows you down by a turn I don't think it's that bad
>>94331048True. It just feels too dull imo. Either you get your dork commander hit early and sit there playing a single 4-drop while the rest is either assembling proper engines or throwing down equally scary 5+ drops, or you get to play the game. Bit too feast with a chance of famine for me.She's still an A+ dork in my Xenagos deck though.
>wanted to make a Captain America deck>Can't make one cause WOTC sucksFeels sad man
>>94331316>>94331316>>94331316
>>94326898>Just because they could introduce a set on a plane where there isn't any magic or war and it's just 200 cards representing an office building full of accountants doesn't meant that anyone actually wants to see thatWant this so bad.Flavored cards poking fun at internal office type drama like for glaring at that mouthy bitch Brenda spreading rumors.Cards for dealing with annoying head of HR dept depicting a dragon in an office with goblin lackies pushing papers. Possibilities could be endless.
