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>>94325773Objectively best choice is to be Young. One more Combo Perk is too good.Being Elderly sucks ass. You get the same amount of perks as Young, but no extra Combo Perk death is knocking on your door already.
>>94316508>Embrace the DarkThis was my plan all along, to take this position after I slew the demon lord, keeping my intentions hidden until now.>RaceDemon>CursesRebirthChimerism (Extra Horns...?)TemptationNocturneInhumanityDamnation>GeneralsDorothy (Tier 4, Lover)Alexander (Tier 3, Remove Sadism)Reine (Tier 2 (Upgraded to 3))Veera (Tier 1, Remove Sadism, Lover)>Boss PowersElemental ControlDarkness MagicMartial MasterySeductive CharmTarget RedirectionMagic ProtectionStat EnhancementAlmighty BlastEnergy DrainTime SlowSpace WarpTruth Intuit>WeaponTome of the Wyvern>ArmorArchdemon Raiment (Pride)>ConnectionEuthanization>Kingdom giftsDemon Realm NobilityDuchy of SommgraveVagrant Hordes>Corruption BoonsCorruptive BloodOverlord MemoriesInheritance Ring (I'm going to build it up for as long as possible and use it as a last resort if ever necessary, i'm not going to have an heir anyways)>PlotsCastle Renovation (This is my home)General TrainingMilitary TourBorder Town Invasion (Take it over, but rule mostly peacefully. Integrate them fully with humans alongside monsters, in the way I want to rule the world)Punish the Priests (Turn them all into monsters and devoted priests like Dorothy)Discipline the Dogs (Assert my dominance to the beast tribes in addition to sending them a gift since I don't like their methods)>FuturesSacrificial SealReborn ConquestFell WorshipI did end up making a build for this after all. I'm actually reasonably satisfied with it.
>>94325965I will strive to conquer the world, but not for destruction of the mortal races, but instead to pull them under my rule. Humans and elves will be granted citizenship and rights alongside monsters, and they are not to be harmed unless they will it (such as willing vampire slaves or something). It will be a long an difficult road, but I will pursue it as the new Overlord. I didn't choose a spouse because I will instead have a harem (not one locked in my room though, just multiple 'wives'), adding ones like Dorothy, Veera, Opal and Rauma alongside any other monstrous concubines I find suitable. Immortality will be in my grasp, and through the assertation of my strength and my ascent to godhood, this realm shall bend to my iron will, but all will prosper under my command.
>>94325969why do you want to rule anyone? it sounds like a lot of work for no gain, a massive waste of timethe proper use of personal power is to just become an indestructible neet
>>94325994Resources, retard.
>>94326014and why do you want resources? so you'll be able to rule others better, wasting even more time?
>>94325994I want to rule people because I want to rule people. Its that simple. I like ruling over people.
Italics and Magifags were the only ones talking about CYOAs.Really makes you think
>>94326026Spoken exactly like someone who has never ruled over anything or anyone.
>>94326050Anon just because you aren't cut out for ruling doesn't mean others aren't. Anyways the cyoa is still annoying in many aspects but its at least tolerable. I'm kind of content with my lot and choices. Still, its a trash cyoa, and suffers from being one.
Best Fated Encounter?https://imgchest.com/p/lqye3kz9m4d
>>94326061>Best Fated Encounter?The one you and me had, baby
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>>94326057“Not cut out for ruling.” Nice projection. I see you already know you’re hopeless.
I haven't visited these threads for years. Any new pocket dimension cyoas?
>>94326075I accept your concession.
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>>94326079Beri’s Dungeon cyoa kind of counts?
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>>94326080As obviously known any retard who larps this hard online will absolutely not enjoy or be good at ruling over others. Men who rule are forged not coddled into autism like you.
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>>94326061the ones that give you tao talent in cultivation are the best, second best are the ones that gives you tao comprehension and the special four techniques, all the others are worse or good in much more niche situations
>>94326092>larps this hard>you are literally larping as a retard right nowAnon, I think its you that's the one coddled into autism.
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>My cyoa build is the stronge-ACK!>I can totally be-ACK!>I am not going to die like all the oth-ACK!
>>94326132Correct. I will win no matter what, just like goku did in that scene.
>>94326079It is oncemore my job to post Ouroboros.
>>94326146I feel so sorry for you.
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>>94326146The worst cyoa from that author. Such a shame to go out like that instead of making something better as his last cyoa.
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>>94326155Pretty sure it killed him BECAUSE it was so poorly received.
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>>94326169Has tok made anything since magic the floppening?
>>94326190He updated dragonfall when italics released magi case. After that I don't think so, i'm pretty sure he DID make something or other but it also flopped so hard as well I have no idea what he's released afterwards.
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>muh ruling>muh forging >muh charisma>muh powerI just want to rape. If your CYOA can’t sate my ryona and pregnancy fetishes I might still play it, but it won’t make the top of my list.
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>>94326190and this
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>>943260611. Immortal Herb. Cultivation wise, you quite possibly become the strongest being in the world. Literally ascending to Heaven in one step.2. Fallen Immortal. Best comprehension = best progress on your tao. You don't need to care much about starting techniques either since you can easily create more. Plus, you also get a perfect reincarnation method.3. Ancient Bloodline = Spirit Inheritance = Immortal Physique.4. Immortal Scripture.5. Sovereign Successor. Mediocre.~6. Immortal Armament. Must take and #1 if your dao is a weapon.7. Mysterious Mentor. Who the fuck needs a mentor when you can deduce whatever techniques you need in moments or already have perfect techniques?8. World Seed. Lmao.
>>94326061I am getting filtered. How can I understand what is good and what is bad without reading 1000 chink novels?
>>94326278You can't make a losing build unless you take obviously retarded options like Mundane Mind and the Vows. The cyoa is basically "how do you want to win?". 90% of it is flavor, really.
>>94326278What that anon said. Just take whatever you feel like.
>>94326351>>94326308>t. gatekeeping the good choices
>>94325965>>70555709 (You)I have realized I kinda don't care about opal as much so I will replace her and demon nobility with the lost queendom next time I post this build (probably not here). I wish the lamia queen picture was more attractive. I like snake women, just not that weird looking one.
>>94326204/trash/ would be the perfect place for you since a good portion of the cyoa there includes that.
So the time has cum for me to produce cyoa oc slop? I guess it falls on me when all other authors are gone. Very well, I accept and from now on, will start the production of my oc.
>cyoags become real as per ascent timeline>but everyone turns into tok without blessing of SRTR
>>94326489forgot to add that soul molestation is included somewhere along the lines also
Did someone said shitalics?
>>94326138can it sovercuck
>>94326404The only truly important mechanical choice is your fated encounter. See: >>94326100 and >>94326255 for opinions on them so far.
>>94326083not quite what i was thinking but but neat nonetheless>>94326146pretty cool thanks
>>94326579You're just made i'm right.
>>94326824Yooo, this looks cool. How come I've never seen it?
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>>94326824>Abilities:Zenith (Ultra Brain), Anthropomorph (Shapeshifting), Energy Storage, Telepathy 3, Cyber Power (all)>Items:Tentacle Brush>Drawbacks:Rush JobWorld domination, here I come.
>>94326472Liar. I’ve been there and like 99% of what gets produced there is tranny shit. The other 1% is extreme femdom.
>>94326959The recent demon lord OC from there is ok. It's only mildly trash, the author would have benefitted greatly from posting here and just eschewing the like two titty pics in the cyoa.
>>94326959Liar. It is 30% tranny shit and 70% genies
>>94326959Strange. When I'm there there's loli everywhere and torture porn.
>>94326204Rapture Academy You're welcome.
>>94326824>Free Abilities:Human 2.0ImmortalityImmunity>Abilities:Vampire (Zombie Health)Zenith (Ultra Body)Energy StorageRegeneration Level 3CyberpowerTelepathy Level 2>Items:Trinkets (fuck it fluency in Chinese)Old Van>Drawbacks:Be a Girl>Challenges:Documented>Disasters:SleepersThe plan is to lay low and try to find a way to put the elders back to sleep or hopefully destroy them
>>94327152I like this image, she seems nice
Slopingical vs Hyenacuck. Who wins in an OC battle?
>>94316508>Immediate Response: Hold Back The Dark [+1 Light]>Monstrous Form: Pallid>Curses:RebirthMutationChimerismUnleashingTemptationPestilence>Generals:Tier 1: Jacob [+Temptation]Tier 2: Kontar [Empowered, Remove Inhumanity, +Temptation]Tier 3: ReineTier 4: Dorothy [Passion, Remove Damnation]>Boss Powers [+1 Dark]:Elemental ControlDarkness MagicAilment CocktailMartial MasteryTarget RedirectionMagic ProtectionStat EnhancementAlmighty BlastEnergy DrainTime SlowSpace WarpGeneral Boon [Baht - Skill Steal]>Legendary Armaments:Tome Of The WyvernTitanic Ring>Fille’s Goal: Peace [+1 Light]>Kingdoms & Factions:Kingdom Of Aurafide [+1 Light]Kingdom Of Rozenblut [+1 Light]Gerediso [+1 Light]>Supporession Boons:Power Suppression [+1 Light]Sword’s Return [+1 Light]Artifact Shatter [+1 Light]>Plots:Castle Renovation [+1 Light]General Training [+1 Light]Demon Hostage [+1 Light]Provide Reparations [+1 Light]Court A Lover [+1 Light]Discipline The Dogs [+1 Light]>Future Possibilities: Sheathed Swords [-3 Light]New Sunrise [-11 Light]
>>94327230>no picture>shopping listFucking homos, every time.
>>94327235Even worse, xer build is a redemption build, meaning its a nothingburger that just ends with him going back to being a human. They put in minimum effort to just ignore the cyoa anyways.
What is the name of that one webnovel series about people from different world getting superpowers and was turned into a CYOA?
>>94327279Dragon fall
>>94327230>doesnt turn reine back into a girl or take broken chainserm based?
>>94327321Neither did the last build.
>>94327326just found it funny that anon was going for the most flaccid build but didnt fix reine
>>94327331I see what you mean now, but yea you can't really expect competency from someone who puts in that low effort.
>>94316508 > ResponseHold back the dark > RaceDemon> CursesRebirth Mutation Chimerism NourishmentObscenityVestament> GeneralsJacob 1 (+rebirth, love)Gareth 4 (-pestilence, +rebirth, love)Baht 4 (-sadism, +rebirth, love)Maw'rana 2 (+obscenity, love)> Boss PowersDarkness magicSeductive charmMagic protectionEquipment empowerStat enhancementSpace warpGeneral boon (Fell Worship)> RelicsTome of the wyvernTitanic ring> ChurchPeace > FactionsAurafide Jesatuin> BoonsPower suppression Twilight soul Redemption oath > PlotsCastle renovationGeneral trainingMilitary tourMarriage announcementProvide reparationsCourt a lover> EndingForged AllianceNew sunrise
>>94327555>the no image shopping list builds are multiplying for the trash cyoaWhat the fuck? Its almost identical, is this just a samefag edit?
>>94327569Looks like it. The mind of a trashtard is baffling in its simplicity.
>>94327569No, I just thought it would be funny to post my build now.
>>94327590>no image>shopping list>redemptionThis isn't a build. You essentially just spent and entire post telling us how you didn't play the cyoa. You could have just said that instead.
>>94327597You know redemption is IN the cyoa, right? Tim clearly put it there for a reason?
>>94327597The redemption route is a valid option within the cyoa.
>>94327605Redemption builds are just for people who don't actually want o play the cyoa. Your choices are meaningless since you go back to normal. Just don't play the cyoa at that point.
>>94327605>>94327609Meaningless trap choice that is just a cop out.
>>94327609No its not.
>>94327590i would've kept reine in and then taken Passion because its technically not gay
>>94327614That's like saying all isekai builds that go back to Earth are meaningless.
>>94327614> Redemption builds are just for people who don't actually want o play the cyoa. 'The cyoa' includes redemption so you're wrong by definition.>>94327627I never took Reine in the first place? I don't care for the power and the fact that he has temptation.
>>94327627Extremely gay. >>94327628Correct, they are.
>>94327618How is it a trap?
>>94327636Just because the cyoa includes a cop out doesn't mean its valid. Redemption builds are to be ignored since you just arent participating in the cyoa premise.
>>94327640Low IQ retard trap. Would rather copout than be monster god. Redemption is for cucks.
>>94327249Going full evil just means a hero will eventually arise to kill you. Good always win, sorry evilfag.
>>94327636>'The cyoa' includes redemption so you're wrong by definition.Redemption builds are for gays.>>94327653Nah, you're just weak if you lose. Just because a hero arises doesn't mean you can't beat them. Sorry trashtard.
>>94327642> Just because the cyoa includes a cop out doesn't mean its valid.It literally does, regardless of how much you like it.
>>94327662Nah you. Didn't play the cyoa. You put in bare minimum effort for a cop out build.
>>94327662You didn't play the cyoa, sorry trashtard.
>>94327640It depends on what story you want to create.If you want to be the new apocalypse, you can.If you want to destroy the curse itself, or stay the overlord and pacify the monsters, that's also possible.Or you could let people ITT decide in your stead. Based on the last thread I'm sure they will have the right opinion.
>>94327667>>94327671Flatly incorrect.
>>94327651Redemption isn't even less powerful necessarily. You can rule Light & Dark. It's still an upgrade and you don't have to let Dark rape your soul.
>>94327662>samefag shopping list no image redemption buildsLiteral nothingburger builds. Go back to trash with this shit.
>>94327683Flatly correct. Try harder next time.>>94327689Redemption is gayer and a cop out. Play something else next time.
AHS must make up with Tok in order to rally the lolifags and moralfags together to cast out the "actually going to create a dimension of pure-evil and eternal suffering"fags
>>94327683Nah, just don't make shit builds next time.
>we've been invaded by trashfags>they can't even put in minimum effort on their builds>Builds boil down to "I didn't want to play the cyoa anyways"Grim
when are we going to get invaded by mcyoag, jumpchain, harhel and towergirls
Hopefully never, they were all banished for a reason.
>what are crossposters
The premise of the cyoa is 'you kill the demon lord but are then forced to take his station'.The premise is NOT 'you kill the demon lord but are then forced to take his station, become evil and try to conquer the world'.
>>94327728>The premise is NOT 'you kill the demon lord but are then forced to take his station, become evil and try to conquer the world'.>Hmm today I will play this dark lord cyoa>And then at the end I will give up all my dark lord powers and do fucking nothingThis is exactly the premise. If you cop out you just shouldn't have played the cyoa. It's like gateway giving you the choice to just kill yourself. Just don't fucking play the cyoa at that point.
>>94327728That is literally exactly the premise of the cyoa, retard.
>>94327727Gay
>>94327590The whole cyoa is stupid. Where's my "Do a Backflip" option when the energies hit you?!
>>94327728I don't care what the CYOA says. Play as we said or your build is invalid.Hm, I wonder if that logic can be used to discredit others things.
wow i did the funny thing guys when do i get the invite to the secret cyoag shitposting discord
>>94327735You know there's a long period of time between the start of the cyoa and the end, right? And it's not even like redemption is the end, you're still the Overlord and still have to rule over the monsters.>>94327744It very, extremely obviously is not, because there wouldn't even BE an entire good path if they weren't meant to be taken. By this (lack of) logic any Facility build that decides to escape 'isn't playing the cyoa.
>>94327768Why are you still debating with them?
>>94327768Trashfags are incapable of making good builds or cyoas and this is no exception. Stop making excuses, if you don't want to play the cyoa, just don't.>>94327780There's no debate, trashtards just don't play cyoas.
>>94327768Spare me having to look at your retardation next time before you post nothingburger cop out trash builds. Go back to trash.
>>94327780...Why indeed.
>>94327793I don't know whats worse, them coping about making who cares builds for a trash cyoa that's not even in the thread, or them posting the builds here in the first place expecting pats on the back for shopping lists with no substance. At least the first anon wasn't this much of a faggot.
>>94327807The first demon one is a cyoag regular, its sovercucks posting style. Makes sense its higher quality than trash tourists.
What exactly should be contained inside a waifu character profile? And how should I go about organizing it in an engaging way for anyone to hop in and decide if they like the character or not?
>>94327829>What exactly should be contained inside a waifu character profileSnippet of signature abilities, what their personality is like, hobbies, what they like about you, etc. Preferably with some paragraph or sentances from themselves. >And how should I go about organizing it in an engaging way for anyone to hop in and decide if they like the character or not?Look at other waifu cyoas or cyoas with good waifus for inspiration. Godly husbandry and entropist are two that come to mind for me.
>>94327784You just don't understand what playing a cyoa means, got it.>>94327793You wish I was from trash.
>>94327850>You just don't understand what playing a cyoa means, got it.I do, you clearly don't since you chose not to play the cyoa.>You wish I was from trash.You would have an actual build if you weren't. Don't be so obvious, Tard-Kun.
>>94327850>You wish I was from trash.>trash cyoa gets shilled>suddenly low effort faggots come out to shill the shitty cop out part of the trash cyoa.I don't have to wish. Go back.
>puts the most effort into his build>is the driving force behind discussion>calls other people trashfags amazing
The /trash/ thread is /cyoag/'s brother. They share the same blood not matter how much you hate it.
>>94327931That doesn't mean we have to respect or acknowledge them.
>>94326155oh no that was his last cyoa?I liked it way more than his other ones
Any news from Acheld?
>>94327936Look at me brother.LOOK AT ME.
>>94327931/trash/ isn't the retarded brother that doesn't have a single joke or scrap of creativity to show for the past ten years. /cyoag/ is just a discord outlet for a couple redditors (or ex-redditors in the case of tok lmao) and their clingers-on
>>94327721some jumpchain cyoas are surprisingly decent, there's even a few good ones better than real cyoas evenyou gotta do chains in a orderly progressive way tho, becoming OP too fast ruins the funarmy builders are my favoriteimporting tens of thousands of troops and ships from star wars, halo, and 40k, to something like mass effect or stellaris...kino
>>94327948Not since December last year.
>>94327991>/trash/ isn't the retarded brother that doesn't have a single joke or scrap of creativity to show for the past ten years.Except that's exactly what they are. Trash serves only as a refuge for the lost and the coomed. They produce nothing of value and serve only as a repository of the dregs and fetish material.
>>94328026Ok. Donald.
>>94328026Divine Trials, Harahel, Hearts Adrift and Made in Abyss were pretty fun and memorable
>>94328039>coom, coom, metashit, coom
>>94328045It's only coom if you make a coom build.
>>94328064But then your build is invalid.
>>94328045As half of what's posted here ain't coomer shit. How many times have you chucklefucks argued about fucking waifus and cry when there's no loli?
>>94327842What if the waifu has a life outside of just being a waifu that they take very seriously? Is this seen as a negative?
>>94328069Not really, you just don't take fetish drawbacks. Most of those are more about powerlevels and world building.
>>94328026Anon, the most popular cyoas here are fetish material.
>>94328097Irrelevant. I won't go there to check, based on the last thread we are the best cyoa general.True Minotaur Vampire Lords were hilarious though.
>>94328045Honestly its funny that they think they're good.
>>94328114So was that glasses build.
>>94326255>immortal herblmao, it's pretty much the worst possible option, the only reason you'd want it is to roleplay an 8 year old rank 10 god in your writeup, otherwise you can already outright choose any realm of cultivation in the way the cyoa works, so as a cyoa choice it's terriblei find the way you ranked this especially bizarre in light of your mostly correct ranking of mysterious mentor, which has all the same fucking problems, except is still better than immortal herb because at least the mentor can get you out of trouble and nets you the ruthless foes drawback without a downside since she just destroys anyone above your rank who attacks you>World Seedreally? you think world seed is bad, despite how it gives you a resource hack in a context where 99% of the issues you're facing are based on resource scarcity, no matter how talented you are in any other area? honestly while i personally prefer the three talent boosters and rank them at the top, i think world seed is probably the annoying actual top pick, since in fluff terms it only works really well for crafting builds, but then crafting builds are ascendant in this cyoa anyway as the description of unorthodox sects tells you, among many of the other blurbs in the cyoa
>>94326255oh and i think you're overestimating fallen immortal too, especially the part where you're saying it gives you a reincarnation method when the text doesn't support it being anything more than a one-time fluke
>>94326278the cyoa gives you all the information you need to understand it, just go off of that
>>94327991You described the colors wrong. Magenta is right. Piss is possibly right in symbolic depictions, but real piss is less saturated. The other 5 colors are wrong.
>>94328163Immortal Herb is instant top power. No risk of being killed off before you can grow. It is by far the safest option.Mysterious Mentor is at best a grade 10 and can't 100% protect you from other grade 10s, which is a little risky. She's also fucking reading your mind 24/7, completely unacceptable.World seed is quite literally wealth without sufficient power, the greatest sin in xianxia. Just take Plentiful Wealth. World Seed only duplicate things, so getting something valuable first is on you. This is insanely dangerous. If you want to be a crafter, just take Immortal Techniques to be the top alchemist/blacksmith of a sect, have the sect deliver resources to you, avoid the danger of greed, and have 3 supreme techniques to spare? Or you can take Immortal Herb and erase all those resources needed for cultivation right from the get go, then you can just snatch resources with 0 risk as long as you don't have any grade 10 enemies.>>94328176Maybe. The cyoa doesn't specify how you're reincarnated, so it's all speculation, but since you have the experience and supreme comprehension, it should be possible to create a technique eventually if you don't have one from the start. Even there's only comprehension, I still prefer it more than the other talent Fated Encounters, probably because I'm biased from the xianxia novels I read.
>>94328332>Mysterious Mentor is at best a grade 10She's a sovereign actually
>>94328332>you can just snatch resourcesOr you can create a sect and have people deliver resources to you.The benefits of being a top powerhouse are endless.
>>94328332>Immortal Herb is instant top power.You're a God sure, but if you get to that point with one of the other options you're the strongest. The gamble is worth it.
>>94328361Triple god level cultivation + quadruple divine talent + combat perks would make you the strongest in the world because only the player has the chance of getting a dao grade talent (if someone pops up with it by chance, you can just nip the problem in the bud). You can focus on attaining sovereign without worry, without risk. Who knows, maybe by the time other builds would reach god level, you would be a sovereign already.
>>94328332>>94328353>>94328361you don't need immortal herb to start as a god, read the cyoa lmao, you just start as an ancestor and boost to rank 10 through talent and/or comprehensionoutside of roleplaying as a child god immortal herb is always the worst pick>>94328332>World seed is quite literally wealth without sufficient powerif you use it wrong, sure, but the same goes for all choices, if you however use it well it's one of the best possible options>>94328354except you can create copies of near unique and actually unique resources with world seed
>>94328433>retard takes ancestor and cuts off his path to sovereignlmao
>>94328433>ancestortrap option
>>94328438where does the cyoa say that?>>94328440less of one than starting with immortal herbwith ancestor you don't need to waste any points on technique upgrades and you can also take some drawbacks without any downsides, which gives you way more mechanical options than disciple and elder builds
>>94328449read ancestor again, slowly
>>94328458you should do that yourselfhint: you can start at rank 10, you don't need to start lower than that as an ancestor
>>94328459>Sadly, Ancestors have exhausted all of their potential, unable to cultivate further
>>94328476yes? where's the part where they can't become sovereigns?
>>94328449>>94328477I don't believe you have this little reading comprehension, anon. I think you're just jerking our collective chain.
>>94328492anon the process of becoming a sovereign is described in the cyoa, it doesn't involve cultivating more energy into your dantian/body/soul
>>94326061>top tier:ancient bloodline, spirit inheritance, immortal physique, fallen immortal>mid tier: immortal scripture, immortal armament, world seed>bottom tier:sovereign successor, mysterious mentor, immortal herband yes, if you were wondering, top and bottom are meant in a gay way
>>94328545How would all of them fare against a gun user? Would they need to be shot multiple times?
>>94328569by the time you're grade 4 you're pretty much immune to mundane weapons, including bullets, regardless of other matters of cultivationso yeah even a disciple already starts out immune to gunsmaybe you would need to be grade 5 to be immune to heavier modern weaponry as well, and maybe 6 or 7 to be immune to nukes, but that's about it for even the most extreme mundane weapons
>>94328569Only disciples fear gunfags
psst, hey anonwhat kind of spirit toot did you pick
>>94328646>what kind of spirit toot did you pickA reincarnation spirit toot
>>94316508>Embrace the DarkAnything else is pussy shit. I'm in it to win it.>UndeadSkeleton. A big one to act as the frame. You know the drill.>Mutation, Nocturne, Inhumanity, Vestament, Damnation, PestilenceThe Mutation makes me look like a bunch of skeletons fused together to my big frame AKA I'm just Nito. Nocturne, Inhumanity, and Damnation to keep with the theme of evilest darkest unholiest edgiest motherfucker there ever was. Vestament is whatever, Nito is naked anyways. And Pestilence is more like a boon than a drawback, how about I have an entropic aura that passively kills things close to me.>Dorothy, Baht, Kontar, GarethPassive EXP gain from worship, ability to permanently steal skills, resurrection if things go to shit, and I can sing people to death (kind of). If I could I would kill Dorothy, Baht, and Gareth to resurrect them in Undead forms. Everything in all worlds must either be Undead or just Dead, no exceptions.>Corruption (All, Inhumanity), Empower (Baht)They better be inhuman, my monsters must be MONSTROUS. And Baht empowerment lets me steal both EXP and skills. Not sure how useful EXP theft would be given the (probable) large gap in Level between me and mostly everything else. Actually now that I think about it Nito has a lot of extra hands doesn't he? I could technically pinch a bunch of people's heads at once to drain them all.(1/3)
>>94328706>Darkness Magic, Ailment Cocktail, Target Redirection, Magic Protection, Equipment Empower, Stat Enhancement, Almighty Blast, Energy Drain, Time Slow, Space Warp, Truth Intuit, General Boon (Monster Fuse)Why would I reject more power? Darkness Magic is a must for all respectable Overlords, Ailment Cocktail + Pestilence gives super AIDS to everything I don't like, Target Redirection forces losers to target my skele-bomber goons before me, Magic Protection is a no-brainer, Equipment Empower and Stat Enhancement turns all my cronies into superpowered biohazards, Almighty Blast is just cool, Energy Drain + Skill Theft is the ultimate expression of Drain Touch, Time Slow + Space Warp is OP, Truth Intuit is useful, and the General Boon could be used for some cool corpse-stitching necromantic magics, like killing a powerful but disobedient monster and fusing their corpse with a weak but extremely devoted one to get the best of both worlds.>Tome of the Wyvern, Svart-Regnsroc (Light)I'm going to use magic to turn the robe invisible, everything must see me in my full glory.>EuthanizationNo shit they tried to put me down, anyone rational would.>Demon Realm Nobility, Duchy of Sommgrave, Vagrant HordesThey're already my allies so I might as well keep it going. More meat for the meatgrinder wars I will inevitably wage against everyone and everything. Duchy of Sommgrave is already filled with undead so that's great, and the Vagrant Hordes are full of monsters I could necromantize so that's also great. Those monsters consent in the matter is irrelevant(2/3)
>>94328706based
>>94328721>Corruptive Blood, Overlord Memories, Innocent SacrificeBut I don't have any blood, I'm a skeleton. Let's say my ground bone dust suffices instead. I can use Corruptive Blood to forcefully turn non-Monsters into Monsters, maybe poison a town's water supply or something? Overlord Memories lets me know where my predecessors fucked up (and any juicy secrets they may know, an Overlord HAS to at least know some), and Innocent Sacrifice upgrades my Drain Touch to True Drain Touch. Drain your skills, EXP, mana, life, soul, and spirit. Combine with Time Slow to snatch up a bunch of people in slow time and then drain them to death when it resumes.>Castle Renovation, General Training, Military Tour, Noble Kidnapping, Border Town Invasion, Punish the PriestsTurn the castle into a gigantic mausoleum, comfort be damned. Go full Elden Ring Shadow Realm with this bitch, gravestones everywhere, a giant stone coffin for me to sleep in, etc. Everything else is whatever, normal Overlord shit. I might turn the Priests into my Undead Bishops as the first step to furthering my religion across all monsterkind. When all humans and human-adjacents are either dead or turned into undead, the only ones left to kill will be them. Then this will truly be a world of the Dead, the domain from which I invade the other dimensions implied to exist.>Endless Night, Sacrificial Seal, Fell Worship, Affixed Shackles, Reborn ConquestWhy the fuck do I need to pay for the Fell Worship fate here when I already have the general trait and Priests for it?(3/3)
>>94328706Based entropic chad. Skeletons are the ultimate redpill.
>>94328806> Skeletons are the ultimate redpill.That is correct, we are all skeletons trapped in suffocating flesh. We need to get out.
>>94328706I thought this was another coomer shopping list build, but was pleasantly surprised. Omnicidal undead lords are always kino.
Here's your OC you fucking animals.
>>94329338based
>>94329338>White pill.It doesn't say my IQ goes back down when I stop indulging my sick urges.>text below>"They [...] do not serve to generate any form of creativity, imagination of worth or adventure."The best CYOA build story I know of is based on a pill cyoa:https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/06/02/and-i-show-you-how-deep-the-rabbit-hole-goes/I'm not being ironic or hyperbolic, it's really well written.
>>94329372>slatestarcodex.comA rationalist would have a field day with this general.
>>94329372Currently starting Act 2.It is indeed well written. Thanks for sharing.
>>94329338White pill, since the boost seems to be permanent. If not green pill and take bitcoin.
>>94325773I'm thinking about making a post-apocalyptic cyoa, can you guys post some post apoc kino so I can get inspiration or get discouraged by seeing all my ideas have been done already?
>>94329477There are so many possibilities for cool apocalypse scenarios. Make sure you don't pick an overused one like zombies or nuclear war.
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>>94329477What I've been thinking about myself is making a societal collapse CYOA. The world didn't end with a bang, it ended with a whimper and a final squeal when the last governments just fizzled out. All nations simply collapsed from incompetence and now its raider country. People are stupid from microplastics in their brain, low O2 in the air and chemicals in the water turning the frogs gay. You would play as someone emerging from a billionaire bunker that got overrun and your genes unaffected by the decay or something.
>>94326255>>94328545What makes Spirit inheritance equal to Ancient Bloodline and Immortal physique? at least combat wise. In raw power its way inferior to both of them, so it's only because of illusions and senses? is that equiparable to physical stats and magic?
>>94329533I can't picture it happening like that. If it's a slow and gradual collapse of civilization, then if somewhere in the world the administration is incompetent, then their polity loses some power and other polities elsewhere pick up the power they dropped, and also take measures (masks, suits, bunkers, regulations) against the apocalyptic stupefying pollutants. Honestly supernatural catastrophes also sound more fun.
>>94329536nothing, they aren't supposed to be equal in direct combat, body cultivation is there if you want to specialize in combat, qi cultivation is for being a generalist, and yeah soul cultivation is for solving things indirectly, you'll however also note that a random soul cultivatior is described as winning against a random body cultivator of the same realm and resourcesif you look at the features of soul cultivation you have attacks that directly affect the mind, general telekinesis, and a whole lot of interaction with nature spirits and human specters and suchin my soul cultivator build i made a clone technique that uses stealth, ambushes, and attacks through second style, if you combine it with the really strong hiding in plain sight it's practically unbeatable, like i have no idea ho i'd beat it with either qi or body
>>94326061There is no build that wouldn’t be better off cultivating multiple types.
>>94329967i disagree, builds that focus on just one cultivation type can get 30 points for free to spend on other shit if they take crippled talent for the two unused types, it can be pretty relevant and is actually the reason i ranked the three tao talent encounters the same as the tao comprehension one
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>>94328706Wait is this just an entropist build?
I'm close to finishing the writing of my OC. Companions are by far the hardest part since they are a balancing act between personal hiatory, personality (Trying to avoid repeating personalities), and connection to the Player and how to make their power noticable.
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>>94330033Just a weird meme build, but its better than the ow effort shopping lists. My question is why is this shit even posted here.
>>94330069>personality (Trying to avoid repeating personalities)make all of them be different variations of the same girl
>>94326061How important do you guys think heart force/domain is?
>>94330079This isn't a gacha game
>>94330098all companion cyoas are gacha games
>>94330006>LETHALITY90%>APOCALYPSE SCENARIOAI Meltdown, because it's guaranteed to fail after killing the 90%, and serves as a good warning to make any future AI apocalypse less likely to happen.>TO THE NEW WORLDNew Genesis, because none of the gifts give me an especially good guarantee of survival in the more warlike scenarios, and Lesson Learned may bring about a new hi-tech apocalypse (AI?) very soon.>POWERS AND GIFTSPrimordial LifespanChronicler BlessingDivinely AppointedHoly Nourishment
Why are Italics CYOA unpopular on Reddit? You would think with his tastes it would be higher upvoted than Tok. But nothing from Italics even matches up to Dragonfall's popularity.Italics may not even be a popular author over here either and it's all gaslighting. Tok is an ass but he may be competely right.
>>94330187Italics cyoas are dogshit>b-but reddit likes dogshitI know, that's how dogshit italics is
>>94330187Italics uses too many words for /r/makeyourchoice./r/nsfwcyoa seems to be fine with many words, but Italics doesn't produce coomshit.
>>94330187He's too baser, they hate him because he includes anti gay, furry bait, and lolis. This all on top of making actually long, non slop cyoas for the most part.
Greetings my fellow cultivators
Rolled 1, 4, 3, 4, 1, 3, 2, 3, 4, 4 = 29 (10d4)>>94330109>Traveler's Suitcase (1d4)I'm hoping for [3], to go to Seinaru Magecraft Girls to become eternally young in a comfy setting.>A Mimic! #1 (2d4, repeat result = pick the next roll result instead)>A Mimic! #2 (2d4, repeat result = pick the next roll result instead)If the Traveler's Suitcase roll fails, I'm hoping at least one of the 2 Mimics rolls at least one of its 2 spells as [4], in which case I use it on Traveler's Suitcase to pick [3].So my odds of getting a [3] on Traveler's Suitcase should be 1 - 3/4 * 3/4 * 2/3 * 3/4 * 2/3 = 0.8125. Rolling
>>94330257Traveler's Suitcase:[1]>A Mimic! #1:[4][3]>A Mimic! #2:[4][1]Success. I use Mimic #1's [4] to change Traveler's Suitcase's roll to [3]. I use Mimic #2's [4] to change the roll of Mimic #1 to [4]&[2], since I don't need a Mimic's [3] after I land in SMG and get unagingness anyway.
>>94330205Based literate coomers
>>94328545>ancient bloodline, spirit inheritance, immortal physique, fallen immortal Technique, skill and comprehending the Dao are usually the best things to have in these worlds, so Fallen Immortal probably ranks first. Riskiest of the three too, since you don't have that power boost against anyone of your level.
>>94330187Are you seriously surprised that textwalltalics cyoas aren't a hit in the pill picker subreddit?
>>94329338>tfw i lose the birth nationality gacha in terms of currency1000 vnđ = 4 cents btw nevermind, fuck that, gimme 1000kg of gold insteadat worst it would only be a human-size chunk of gold
>>94330340it's just a different approach, tao comprehension is best used as a generalist who takes all three types of cultivation, or possibly even one of the two that can serve as a restrictive fourth, but it also means that you only reasonably have immortal talent in each of the three, maybe one rare spirit root or something, and that's it for innate talent, so cultivating will be much slower and tribulations will be somewhat more difficult (it feels like both talent and comprehension should make them easier, but that talent should be more relevant than comprehension?)meanwhile taking one of the tao talents is a specialist build where you focus everything on that type of cultivation, which means you get to take the extra 30 points from crippled talent in the other two, which you probably need just to pay off the debt of being on a single node in the rock-paper-scissors system of qi versus body versus soul cultivation combat, unless you find some sort of gimmick to make you unassailable in your specialty like taking pure soul cultivation along with the hidden in plain sight perk
>>94329338>green pill1000 btc
>>94330415Finally someone with a brain.
>>94330427someone else already said it tooit's the first thing i thought of myself, what else would you even pick without googling unless you want to go for a meme answer like 1000kg of antimatter
>>94330430Ah I see it now but he also said white pill. Gonna be honest infinitely stacking iq sounds like more like a curse.
>>94330408>extra 30 points from crippled talent in the other twoWhat? Why? There's no reason to cripple your talent. Just get immortal talent in one to shore up weaknesses. What else are you going to spend the points on?
>>94330473if you have immortal talent in one and mortal talent in the two other then you're going to take fucking ages to get anywhere in them and seriously risk death with each higher-level tribulation despite all your other advantagesthat's the problem with multi-type builds, your talent is spread out so much that it in itself also cripples you, so you're crippled one way or the other, you can't just have it allsince you also have at most divine comprehension you're best off just picking another grade 10 technique plus one of the advantages you didn't get like perfect efficiency or second style, those are really strong
When a cyoa gives you more points for writing and posting your build, do you do it?
>>94330529yes, but i make it a shroedinger's post, i take the points and write the stuff, but i often don't post it, because if i ever do post it then those points are valid via that post, while if i don't post it then it doesn't matter since the build is still technically in a state of being created and doesn't need to be posted until it's done (this can continue for years)
>>94330529no but I take the extra anyway
>>94330493You can get two immortal talents, or even three if you don't care about the variant spirit root or bloodline stuff. Also you don't have to max them out. Focusing on two is probably better than all three at the same time, tbf, but even if you're God level Body Tempering, level 8 or 9 Qi gathering can be a big boost.
>>94330529No, ignore. It's irritating enough that reading that may make me drop the cyoa.
What's a underated power or perk you don't see often but would like to?
>>94330544my favorite build has tao talent in soul cultivation, crippled talent in the other two, and a suite of techniques that i really think is unbeatable as long as i keep doing the typical soul cultivator thing, which is not engaging directlypic is it with 99% of the fluff removed because i don't want to get into thatbut to be honest i tried making some other builds with multiple cultivation methods, and honestly they just don't feel as compellingi have one qi cultivation build that has crippled body and soul cultivation and it's also more compelling than any mutliple type buildthough i wouldn't do this with a pure body cultivation i think, it just doesn't have enough utility
>>94330575This cripples you. You may have a strong soul but you have almost 0 combat potential and if you face someone more or less with a soul as strong as yours but not crippled in the other two, you are fucked.A build with 1 tao and the rest not being crippled is better and it gets better the longer you are alive (which should be an infinite amount of time)
>>943304301000 kg of gold is roughly 57 million dollars1000 btc is roughly 67 million dollarsSo either one of those would be good with btc edging gold out by a bit. BTC was my thought too for taking that one.
>>94330604you're wrong about it being almost 0 combat potential, each cultivation type on its own gives you combat potential of its ownthe cyoa describes it as being one grade lower at worst, so, assuming the rock-paper-scissors of the three types is also one grade each, if you're a grade 5 soul cultivator up against a grade 5 body cultivator or grade 3 qi cultivator you're on equal groundyou then also add in the fact that tao talent itself says you're able to punch up one grade and you're able to reliably contend with grade 6 soul cultivators and grade 4 qi cultivators
>>94330619>>94330604wait no, that was wrong, it should be even better for the soul cultivator since it naturally punches up against bodyif you're a grade 5 soul cultivator against a grade 6 body or grade 4 qi, you're on equal grounde BEFORE counting tao talent, with tao talent you punch up an additional grade, though i assume at that point you're not really hitting all the way to grade 7 and there's a diminishing return, but still, you're already on equal grade terms versus qi
>>94330619>>94330631>>94330604oh and also, i vaguely recall that the author said that having all three cultivation types is in itself a one whole grade of advantage, but i think this was word of god outside the cyoa that never made it inso it's good, but not as good as you think
>>94330631The problem is you are only using 1 of them. Let's say you are facing someone with equal soul grade but has physical stats and magic too, even if those two are 1 grade lower. Then you are facing someone who is directly stronger. Your whole point is to have a better soul grade than their better grade or else you die as they are not one trick ponies and Body, Soul and Qi work better together.That is a decent estrategy if it was a race toward killing each other and you all start from the same point. Then crippring two third of your whole potential is an estrategy to win power quickly in that one you left and with that kill quickly the rest that are probably one or two grade lower because they are spreading their time and don't have points for techniques and such. But thats not the case, you are the last guy that started because you are starting and this is not a battle royale. You are crippling yourself forever in exchange of something you could get eventually
>>94330640>oh and also, i vaguely recall that the author said that having all three cultivation types is in itself a one whole grade of advantage, but i think this was word of god outside the cyoa that never made it inWithout the author I can think about that, is kind of a no brainer a Body grade 5 with the rest in 0 would lose against somebody else with Body grade 5, Soul grade 5 and Qi grade 5 without a chance to win
How useful are Bloodlines, Soul Scenery/spirits and variant spirit roots? Better or worse than getting immortal talent in another cultivation type?
>>94330670>Let's say you are facing someone with equal soul grade but has physical stats and magic too, even if those two are 1 grade lower. Then you are facing someone who is directly stronger.i find this to be a false argument because if they have more cultivation types AND also the same amount of techniques and other perks that you do? yeah, obviously they beat you, but you have to notice that if they also have body and qi on top of that their build is worth many more points, right? you're the dumbass who took a 175 point build against some gigachad with a 325 point build or somethingand my example build wouldn't lose in that situation anyway since it just fucks off and literally can't be found even by gods (hidden in plain sight is overpowered)>Body, Soul and Qi work better together.they absolutely do, but that's just one option, the cyoa provides mutliple different approaches to achieving the same thing, which is only reliably measured in grade advantage, and the cyoa literally keeps showing you examples of other grade advantages>But thats not the case, you are the last guy that started because you are starting and this is not a battle royale. You are crippling yourself forever in exchange of something you could get eventuallyactually wrong, it's a race to sit your ass down in the sovereign's chair, you don't need to wait around forever while perfecting your cultivation in the mortal realm, you just need to ascend>>94330682the point is that such an arrangement is an advantage that lets you punch up about one grade, so it's equivalent to having tao talent which is also described as a one grade advantagesee what i meant before when i said there's different ways to cripple yourself? if you don't start with a way to race for the throne, you're just a sandbagging idiot who's going to wait around for millennia for no reason(i don't mean that you're an idiot literally, just that that's a form of crippling yourself)
>>94330566>What's a underated power or perk you don't see often but would like to?Lifespan extending powers, that are troublesome to use and engage the player with the world, and to which no simple "you're unaging!" alternative exists.Example:"Kill a person and drink his blood while he's dying => become 1 month younger; each time you use it, the benefit decreases by 0.1%", in an urban fantasy setting where you only have street-level powers, so the commotion your killings attract may be a huge problem. For a CYOA where you run an empire, the cost should be scaled up to still be troublesome.Many CYOAs fail at providing (You) with an incentive to take an active role. This is bad, it results (especially for self-inserters, which is most builds here) in boring safe do-nothing builds that barely engage with the world. And you can't blame the players for it if it's the smart thing to do. The failure is the author's for not providing the player with the right incentives.Self-inserters definitely want lifespan extension, so it's a good opportunity to formulate the life extension power in such a way that it pushes the player into an active role.
>>94330706the cyoa has good point balance, you can generally trust ittalent primarily measures how quickly you cultivate and secondarily how good you are at surviving tribulations of that type and how good you are at using the features of that type for various purposes including techniquesthe example of a variant spirit root just gives you more toys to play with, it's described as allowing you to use quasi-techniques without actually having techniques, so if you take an exotic luck spirit root you can innately sense luck and cause misfortune on your enemies without even having techniques for it, while if you have a standard spirit root of say fire you only get to do that with fire attacks and maybe fire resistance
>>94330408>it also means that you only reasonably have immortal talent in each of the three??? You can easily get divine on all of them. Wtf are you spending your points on?
>>94330742>135 points just for talentokay, so you only have talent and can't even afford to start with cultivation techniques that will let you use it, forget about the really strong perks like second heart domain and style for examplei'm engaging with the entire cyoa, obviously, there's more to it than pure talent, even the cyoa itself spells that out to you in the description of talent
>>94330209>He includes anti gayHe just released Magi Case that featured gay lesbian marriage and one of the oldest mages alive being a lesbian for another old mage.
>>94330760>>94330742>second heart domain and stylesecond style and heart domain
>>94330765>gay marriage is only barely tolerated>oldest mage is a lesbian you can fix through dicking, or even better, take both of themYea he's based.
>>94330765lesbians are ok because you can dick them into bisexuality, chuddie
>>94330780>>94330781Karrylicht married another woman.
>>94330790and?
>>94330706Unless you’re focusing on only one cultivation type, talent > the extra stuff. Talent is the foundation and decides how strong that cultivation is. A super duper special ability will be weak if your cultivation in that type is weak.
>>94330780>>94330781NTA but turning turning lesbos bi or straight with a good fucking is one of my biggest fetishes.I wonder if I should make one about that.Fuck I-m suddenly having an idea.What if the CYOA is about doing that to popular cartoon/anime lesbian couples?And you get powers to help straighten them up?Or as rewards for straightening as many as possible?
>>94330790And I can fix her. Based.
>>94330715>you're just a sandbagging idiotMaybe they just dont want to die? Becoming Sovereign can still be done with all your methods, and if you dont make it you can fall back on mastering the stuff you left by the wayside.
>>94330836you're acting like a single type of cultivation isn't a fully competent toolset that can achieve anything, while that's not true, each of them lets you do anything, a soul cultivator can be a brawler and a body cultivator can see through any illusion while making illusions of their own, the different types of cultivation are just better or worse at particular tasks compared to each other
>>94330806>Talent is the foundation and decides how strong that cultivation is.no, it mostly just decides how quickly you cultivate, the other special abilities can definitely be more valuable than just pure talent depending on how you use them
>>94330827Don't do franchise slop because that is a Tok tier move and thinking.Make an original setting around a school we attend. Make it so we have multiple capture targets who we can meet with throughout the school year and trigger events with suxh as convincing a junior not to be gay, NTR'ing a senior from her senior girlfriend, getting ghe girl from our class to go to prom. Also introduce the girls love interests that we will be stealing them from or stopping them from pursuing.Add social simulation elements to the CYOA.
>>94330856>>94330836to give further evidence of this, did you notice how the fated encounters that give you talent all give you random extra benefits, while the one that gives you comprehension doesn't? yeah, there's a reason for that
>>94330827>What if the CYOA is about doing that to popular cartoon/anime lesbian couples?Mixing franchises is kuso. A CYOA should have either 0 or 1 franchises in it, better if 0. Even in Entropist this was one of the worst parts.
>>94330856Cultivation speed decides cultivation level and thus power.
>>94330721As a self-inserter I just end up not taking those powers. Far too much of a hassle/risk and I'm still eventually going to die anyway.
>>94330859>>94330866Part of my logic to make it franchise slop is that it would be rage bait for reddit.>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DICK LESBIANS THAT'S WROOOONGGGGG THEY ARE MY FAVORITE SHIIIIPPPP
>>94330868almost all of the things you get in the cyoa for points represent power, cultivation speed is just one of them and if you spend all of your points on only talent i think you're kind of fucked at the end when you have such thin foundations compared to what you could have had
What is your tao? I would choose True Dragon (because that pairs with my bloodline) if becoming a true dragon doesn't mean stop being humanoid
>>94330885>almost all of the things you get in the cyoa for points represent power, cultivation speed is just one of themCultivation is the most important and those special abilities directly depend on it.>if you spend all of your points on only talentNo one said that.
>>94330912the taos of various builds i've made:>knowledge>endless struggle>a specific mythical tiger>alchemy>sword wife>luck>the serenity of the storm>>94330913actually some guy said you can "easily" buy three measures of divine talent on top of tao comprehension as if that makes a worthwhile build
>>94330912Taiji, the all tao.
>>94330872Looking back at my example, it was perhaps way too limiting, let's drop the "the benefit decreases by 0.1%" part.But in an adventurous kind of CYOA, the player should be pushed into an amount of hassle.Surviving zombies should be a non-trivial hassle in a zombie survival cyoa, etc.
>>94330912One of Power, Freedom or Happiness to minimise risk of heart demons.
>>94330760Take all the circumstances drawbacks (none of which matter) and you still have 75 points to play with.
>>94330946>end up weak, entangled, or sad despite it>get a heart devili think you need to go about it differently, if i looked at my taos three points up i think the endless struggle and serenity of the storm ones are the best at resisting heart devils, endless struggle is especially good at it because you just keep struggling and don't give up>>94330955where are you getting 75? i see 30 from circumstances, never mind that ancient sect is a minmaxing must-have
>>94330964>>9433095535*, forgot mortal ties
>>94330964>30 from circumstancesBounty, Mortal Ties, Notorious, and Steep Decline are 35 points.>ancient sect is a minmaxing must-haveRidiculous. The player can join any sect with just one divine talent.
>>94330997no, i mean ancient sect nets you 30 points for the expenditure of 20
>>94330964Heart devils aren't just when you're sad, but when you lack faith in your Tao. I chose those ones because they're very hard to lose faith in; basically any problem I have can be restated as not having enough Power/Freedom/Happiness. In comparison Eternal Struggle would be very easy to lose faith in since it's undoubtedly going to be extremely harsh to pursue.
>>94331005Technically, but many don't want or need all those techniques upgraded and can get grade 10 techniques later.
Picking a dao to resist heart devils is already failing. #1 cause of heart devils is doubting yourself.
>>94331016there's never a reason to not take a spread of upgraded taoist root techniques, you're just getting 10 points of value for free, even if you want a different sect for fluff the cyoa allows you to do that via combinationsand no, techniques aren't worthless like you're pretending, they're really valuable even before you consider you get to decide exactly what they're like yourself if you get them during your build, while later on you might find a perfect grade 10 technique but it's like "oh sorry you need a yin spirit root to use this" and then you need to spend about as much effort to change the technique as it would have been to make it out of nothing in the first place
>>94331014i think yours are bad exatly because they're easy to lose faith in>just be happy brolmao
>>94331043The sad person wants to be happy, pursue happiness. The ones that don't are depressed, which is the next level of sad.
>>94331014>>94330946Did you notice that Freedom is one of the most famous heart devils in the CYOA? There's an entire paragraph about how some guy got a heart devil from it.
>>94331077so your tao is "endlessly pursuing happiness despite being sad"? bro just take endless struggle instead, it's the same thing but less masochistic
>>94331081That guy was an idiot. He still had mortal ties and wasn't free. Of course he would get fucked.
>>94331043You don't lose faith in your Tao by simply failing to achieve it. You lose faith in your Tao by deciding that it isn't worth achieving anymore. >>94331081Yeah I read that. As I see it, his problem was that he didn't have the freedom to save his family.
>Tao is the strongest thing in your eyes>People choose being fucking drunkThe problem of Tao is picking something that you believe in. I wouldn't be able to pick something like "Being drunk". I would need to choose some aspect of reality like Time or be arrogant and choose my own bloodline or sword, because the last two would gain power as I do and gain confidence.
While all cyoagtards were too busy fighting each other, I won.
>>94331095"endlessly pursuing happiness despite being sad"No, its "endlessly pursuing happiness or a greater level of it, even despite being sad you don't stop pursuing happiness" Is not about being sad, is about being happy which is something almost every single human pursues.Endless Struggle is truly masochistic, as you don't to have quiet and peaceful moments. Struggle by definition will make your life one full of problems which is masochistic. "Happiness" is just what we are doing anyway
>>94331146didn't ask
>>94331108the way i interpret it comes from the guiding principle of "what is the strongest thing in the world from your point of view", by that logic you lose faith in your tao once you feel like your tao has failed you, this is seen in the example from >>94331081 with how if your freedom brought you misery then you still get a heart devil even though you're still free>his problem was that he didn't have the freedom to save his family.this feels like you'd be very weak to heart devils, but that's mostly because as >>94331028 said, by worrying about heart devils while making your tao you're already failing>>94331146maybe your tao should be "mental gymnastics that totally work to let me cope with anything and won't ever fail me when something bad happens"
>>94331146>"Happiness" is just what we are doing anywayThis sounds like the null tao. The cultivator without a tao is the most vulnerable to heart devils of all.
>>94331154>maybe your tao should be "mental gymnastics that totally work to let me cope with anything and won't ever fail me when something bad happens"I am not even the hapiness tao guy lmao. I was just explaining to you because the intent behind his choice was clear and you failed to see it. Your tao should be be a bugman jackass.
>>94331146also endless struggle doesn't mean you can't ever calm down you just apply it to your problems, you overcome everything through hard work, there's no more peak xianxia tao than this
>>94331127Tokhaar Gol...I kneel.
>>94331179But why has there never been a single good game about it?
>>94331179didn't ask
>>94331174i didn't fail to see it, i disagreed with it on the basis of the cyoa's explanations of how taos work
>>94331188you asked when you clicked on the thread :)
>>94331186Tetris!
>>94331193You did because you explained as something that was more akin to be an emo teenager. Anyway, won't entertain you anymore, two messages and you are just awful to have a conversation with. Part of the reason why people don't like xianxia is the fanbase behind it (and also being objectively, low effort and cheap)
>>94331202>Answered to the low iq bait>Answered like a child wouldIs this the power of the Tao of Retardness?
>>94331217you say that as if you know what my goals are>>94331207yes, and i maintain that because "i just want to be happy" is exactly the sort of tao an emo teenager would come up with and then get a heart devil from it, someone who's actually happy wouldn't think about it in those terms
>>94331154Tao is that, it's also an ideal you pursue. And I fail to see how someone could actively pursue the ideal of being miserable.>, by worrying about heart devils while making your tao you're already failingNo? I'm countering heart devils by picking the things I believe are hardest to doubt, which is the whole point of Tao.
>>94331217also the word you're looking for is retardation >>94331240>No? I'm countering heart devils by picking the things I believe are hardest to doubt, which is the whole point of Tao.no that's... expilcitly against what you should be doing, go read the cyoa again
>>94331240>his tao is "resisting heart devils"
>>94331247>His tao is retardation >Fails to see Tao of Retardness is an even more retard version of his own tao>Declines the offer of making his Tao stronger>Anyway gets stronger because he is a retardStrongest retard bugman of today
>>94331247I don't see what's hard to understand here. A Tao that's impossible to doubt is by nature the 'strongest thing in the world'.
cultivation is gay
>>94331273and also explicitly the best way to get a heart devil>>94331269actually when you think about it "being stupid" really is one of the strongest possible taos
>>94331279>his tao is "being gay"
>>94331279Eh, its not as bad as other stuff we've had shit up the thread. I'm content to let them have their fun. Its better than the trashtourists we had last night.
>>94331273>Tao should be the strongest thing in the world>Pick something he truly believes as the strongest thing>N-no that isn't how it works!Whatever you say my man, let people choose what they want, you are not an expert and the cyoa itself agree with him
>>94331297just because you think it's strong doesn't mean it isn't also self-defeating
>>94331286You get a heart devil when you lose faith in your Tao. I am literally picking the things I have the most faith in.>>94331297I don't know why you're telling me that as though I'm the one who started this discussion.
>>94326061Updating because I got my numbers wrong in my previous build.>Dao:Taiji (Facet of Reality)>Daoist Philosophy:Heavenly>Dao Heart:Heart Domain>Generation:Elder (21)>Qi Gathering:Realm: 7 (9)Talent: Divine Yin Yang>Body Tempering:Realm: 7 (9)Talent: Divine>Soul Refining:Realm: 7 (9)Talent: Divine>Daoist Roots:Loose Cultivator>Circumstances:Eccentric, Bounty, Mortal Ties, Notorious>Life Encounters:Life Saving Grace, Accidental Guidance, Brief Apprenticeship>Fated Encounter:Fallen Immortal>Fighting Style:Spells>Comprehension:Dao>Techniques:Cultivation: Heaven Earth Human Unity (Grade 7, all 3 cultivation types)Offensive: Curse of Misfortune (Grade 7, Attack)Auxiliary: Imperfect Clone (Grade 7, Summoning) (temporary clone of the user)Other: nearly all Grade 6 and under techniques>Advantages:Perfect Efficiency, True Wisdom, Technique Innovation>Treasures:all kinds of Grade 6 and under treasures>Fatal Flaws:Exposed Encounter, Ruthless Foes>Special Perks:Hiding in Plain Sight>Plan:Find or fill some super hidden location with abundant resources and cultivate in seclusion until I'm invincible. Only go out to replenish resources or when there's a need to switch location. When going out, always hide my true realm and change my appearance.I'm immortal and have supreme talent, so there's no reason to take any risks. Slow and steady wins the race.
>>94331315the problem is your rationale is "this will let me resist heart devils the best", which shows that you're delusional and literally and exactly doing the opposite of what your goals are
>>94331339Isn't that the correct way to see it? you can change "resist heart devils" with "to not doubt" and its the same thing. Going for a Tao with one of those in mind is the same thing, is basically asking yourself what is the strongest thing, something you wouldn't doubt about it or something that wouldn't generate heart devils, as doubt generates heart devils
>>94331339You resist heart devils by having faith in your Tao. As such, I am picking Taos that I have utmost faith in and can't possibly doubt.
>>94331355See, you get it.
>>94331286>and also explicitly the best way to get a heart devilNTA, can you quote the sentence(s) from the cyoa where you believe it is explicitly stated that a Tao that you can't doubt is the best way to get a heart devil?
>>94331355yes, it's the same thing, and exactly as bad, you're trying to not think about elephants by thinking of elemphants
Is there really a tao that can't be doubted?
>Spirit root of space>Tao of timeWhat are you gonna do against my Gojo-Dio character? you are fucked
>>94331371> yes, it's the same thing,Okay, so the CYOA says you can find your Tao by asking yourself what the 'strongest thing in the world' is, but according to you that somehow increases the risk of Heart Devils?>>94331387Up to the individual really. Obviously I think Power/Freedom/Happiness are good candidates.
>>94331387I have a few>Tao of Tok>Tao of Italics>Tao of Aro>Tao of Husanon>Tao of Entropisanon>Tao of (You)
>>94331416Happiness has a drug addict vibe to it imo.
>>94331416yes, because the cyoa is trying to get you to be genuine while telling you that a rules-lawyering your tao against heart devils doesn't workthe sad thing is that the cyoa does give you ways to defend against heart devils, you're just looking in the wrong section for them, they're the things like silly mischief and accidental guidance
>>94331320>taiji (Chinese: 太極; pinyin: tàijí; Wade–Giles: tʻai chi; trans. "supreme ultimate") is a cosmological state of the universe and its affairs on all levels, including the mutually reinforcing interactions between the two opposing forces of yin and yang, (a dualistic monism),[1][2] as well as that among the Three Treasures, the four cardinal directions, and the Five Elements—which together ultimately bring about the myriad things, each with their own nature.Wtf is this shit? Is this just a lot of words to say "how everything works"?
>>94331434>Tao of humiliation>Tao of patience>Tao of manliness>Tao of children>Tao of entropy?
>>94331464Essentially, yes.
>>94331450You understand that you're directly contradicting the cyoa here, right? > Perhaps the easiest way to answer what one's Tao should be is to ask a simple question: what is the strongest thing in the world?Picking a Tao that you can't doubt is the entire point.
>>94331481>Tao of entropy?Tao of parenthood
>>94331509no, by picking a tao for the sake of resisting heart devils you're just picking a self-contradictory null tao, it doesn't matter if you think that's strong
>>94331536> self-contradictory null taoThat's not even a thing.> it doesn't matter if you think that's strongIt is quite literally the only thing that matters here.
>>94331536>>94331368
>>94331368>>94331555there's a lot of different snippets but these two are the best for this discussion that i can find now in the five minutes i have to look it up:>to conquer one's heart devil is to face these insecurities and trauma head on, and to truly overcome them - merely ignoring them is not enough>it should be noted that heart devils are a result of trauma mixed with not having faith in the tao - having faith in the first place isn't a requirement. in other words, individuals that do not have a tao that they seek are more vulnerable to heart devils rather than less">>94331551yeah it is, your tao is nothing other than "ignoring heart devils", the moment you suffer any kind of setback or trauma it shatters because you don't have faith in any kind of faith in a concept or force, you just want to ignore heart devils
>auctorfaggotry but asian
>>94331569> your tao is nothing other than "ignoring heart devils",If 'ignores heart devils' = 'impossible to doubt', and 'impossible to doubt' = 'the strongest thing in the world', then 'ignores heart devils' = 'the strongest thing in the world'.
>>94331617and i'd say succumbs to a heart devil the moment it begins cultivating without even needing a setback to happen, since the tao itself is based on ignoring trauma, which is explicitly something that doesn't help the problem, it only makes it worse
>>94331628> since the tao itself is based on ignoring traumaExcept it obviously is not.
>>94331645except it obviously is, the moment you say "this tao is good for resisting heart devils" it's undermined in its capacity to resist heart devils, it's a game of not thinking of elephants and you think you can win by thinking of elephants harderan even stupider thing is that you obviously don't believe ignoring heart devils is the strongest thing in the world unless you're having a psychotic break and have forgotten what the world is, ignoring everything that bothers you through the power of copium isn't going to magically save your life when a spirit beast rips off your head, it's not going to magically help you raid an enemy sect, it's not going to magically conquer a continent for you, it's not going to magically let you ascend to the throne of heavens, the only thing it could possibly do is like some other anon said here >>94331446, you might be able to go into a quasi-drugged up fugue or something with it as your grasp on reality crumbles around you, and you think that's strong? i'm still very confident in saying that all you're doing is trying to rules lawyer the only part of the cyoa which is inappropriate for fighting heart devils into letting you resist heart devilsif you disagree then please tell me what the fuck your tao is good for and how it's the strongest thing in the world without talking about heart devils, if you're even half reasonable i'll retract what i said about your tao being useless and put the word retard in my name field for ten posts
>>94331491Logically, I accept it. Emotionally, I feel like it's cheating.
>>94331738because it kind of is, but he's only cheating himself if anyoneas the cyoa says, all taos are equal, his isn't better for anything in particular just because he picked a taoist god analogue, the dude with the raindrops tao has an equally good tao
>>94331738>>94331757I just picked whatever I think is strongest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>94331766and ended up with what's probably a null tao where you picked everything but don't really care about anything
>>94331770That was uncalled for and doesn't even make sense.
>>94331789is it inaccurate though?
>>94331795I see you don't understand what>doesn't even make sensemeans.
>>94331803i mean the conclusion, do you actually care about your build?
>>94331809Wdym? Why wouldn't I care? It's perfect.
>>94331813okay, then name its top five best separate features
>>94331692> it's a game of not thinking of elephantsNo it isn't, that's just a thing you decided upon. At literally no point in the cyoa is it said or implied that thinking about what your Tao should be makes you vulnerable to heart devils.> you obviously don't believe ignoring heart devils is the strongest thing in the worldYes, that's why I DIDN'T make my Tao 'ignoring heart devils'. > if you disagree then please tell me what the fuck your tao is good for and how it's the strongest thing in the world without talking about heart devils.Easy. Power and Freedom are ultimately the same thing; being able to do stuff. The value of this should be obvious, everything good about the other Tao is ultimately just a matter of Power and Freedom. Happiness on the other hand is what gives stuff value in the first place. It doesn't matter how many mountains you climb or masterpieces you paint, if no one enjoys it it's worthless.
>>94331867>No it isn't, that's just a thing you decided upon. At literally no point in the cyoa is it said or implied that thinking about what your Tao should be makes you vulnerable to heart devils.first greentext here >>94331569>Yes, that's why I DIDN'T make my Tao 'ignoring heart devils'. the more you insisted that's what it's good for, the more you made it about that>Happiness on the other hand is what gives stuff value in the first place. It doesn't matter how many mountains you climb or masterpieces you paint, if no one enjoys it it's worthless.okay, but don't you see the problem here? look at all the example taos in the cyoa, do you think every single one of them isn't also about being happy? maybe there's a minority about being strong, but then you also talked about power so i think that still counts tooeveryone wants to be happy, this isn't a distinguishing characteristic, having a "tao of happiness" is like having "a job of work", it doesn't mean anything because it doesn't commit to anything, and thus it feels like a null tao to me
>nooo this can't be a taoLol, what a faggot.
>>94331954i'm sure it can be, but if it is that means it wasn't communicated properly, your tao of happiness is about a lot more than just being blandly happy without any defining characteristics
>>94331962Not even that guy. You're retarded.
>>94331978but was what i just said inaccurate?
>>94331934>first greentext here >>94331569not the anon but that part of Heart Devil talks about Traumas you get just by living life. It puts the example of the guy with the Freedom Tao being traumated by following his Tao meant the death of his family. It wasn't about deciding a Tao>the more you insisted that's what it's good for, the more you made it about thatBecause thats what you two are discussing about. Come on. This is a pointless point.>okay, but don't you see the problem here? look at all the example taos in the cyoa, do you think every single one of them isn't also about being happy? maybe there's a minority about being strong, but then you also talked about power so i think that still counts tooLiterally one category of Taos is called "state of mind" and puts as examples "emotions"... Just stop, you are being too stubborn when you are wrong. Just let it go man
>>94331983>>94331978
Your dao should be the thing that is the coolest to you, or your avatar otherwise, or else you're soulless. This should be obvious.
>>94332021you're not yourself? okay>>94332012i'm not wrong because i made two claims that still haven't been countered, first was that making a tao specifically to resist heart devils is counterproductive, and second was that a tao of happiness is milquetoast, doesn't mean anything, and requires elaborationwhere in that am i wrong exactly?
>>94332037Anything can be a tao. Everything is tao. You don't even understand this simple truth.
>>94332037> a tao of happiness is milquetoast, doesn't mean anything, and requires elaborationTo my mind it's the opposite - extreme devotion to happiness seems like something drugged and degenerate.
>>94329338>a currency you’re knowledgeable about right nowIs there anybody who doesn’t know Bitcoin at this point?
>>94332037>first was that making a tao specifically to resist heart devils is counterproductiveI think several anons by this point have explained to you that is nobody's intention. But following the question made by the cyoa itself, a Tao that fulfills that question truly is the same as lowering as much as possible heart devils and also an easier time to resist them. If you don't understand it, its okay. Just stop.>second was that a tao of happiness is milquetoast, doesn't mean anything, and requires elaborationGo fight with the cyoa creator who put "state of mind" as a category an an example of that category being "emotions">where in that am i wrong exactly?Everything, just stop. You are that type of person that won't understand so why bother? stop
>>94332073i haven't said anything that contradicts that though?>>94332074it could potentially be that, yes, but it could be anything else too, literally anything else at that because as i've said all the examples of taos in the cyoa are also happiness taos if you phrase them like that, we don't know what he means, that's the problem
>>94332092you're being entirely disingenuous>I think several anons by this point have explained to you that is nobody's intention. But following the question made by the cyoa itself, a Tao that fulfills that question truly is the same as lowering as much as possible heart devils and also an easier time to resist them. If you don't understand it, its okay. Just stop.i have never contradicted this>Go fight with the cyoa creator who put "state of mind" as a category an an example of that category being "emotions"why? the cyoa is not the problem, that part is good>Everything, just stop. You are that type of person that won't understand so why bother? stopanon, if you're annoyed to the point of chimping out then maybe you should stop and do something else for a while
>>94332096>all the examples of taos in the cyoa are also happiness taos if you phrase them like that>inadvertently argues happiness is the strongestlmao
>>94331934> first greentext here >>94331569My point stands.> the more you insisted that's what it's good for, the more you made it about thatBecause 'ignoring heart devils' and 'being impossible to doubt' and 'being the strongest thing' are the same thing. Everyone gets this but you somehow.> , do you think every single one of them isn't also about being happyThat is literally exactly my point. If everything ultimately boils down to the pursuit of happiness then clearly happiness is the strongest thing. As the other guy pointed out, you are explicitly allowed to pick emotions as a Tao. This is just you being extremely anal for no logical reason.
>>94332115>i have never contradicted thisFine, then everyone is in the same page and you have been bothering that other anon because yes.>why? the cyoa is not the problem, that part is good....... Do i have to explain to you hapiness is an emotion and a state of mind?
All Dao are equally good imo, if you can make them work. Maybe some are harder to visualize or tap into, and others are easier but need true dedication to get the limits like Sword Dao.
>>94332115>you're being entirely disingenuousironic
>>94332126no, that was an argument that it's very weak, if anything>>94332131>Because 'ignoring heart devils' and 'being impossible to doubt' and 'being the strongest thing' are the same thing.no they're not, i explained this very succintly earlier so let me just copy paste: >an even stupider thing is that you obviously don't believe ignoring heart devils is the strongest thing in the world unless you're having a psychotic break and have forgotten what the world is, ignoring everything that bothers you through the power of copium isn't going to magically save your life when a spirit beast rips off your head, it's not going to magically help you raid an enemy sect, it's not going to magically conquer a continent for you, it's not going to magically let you ascend to the throne of heavens, the only thing it could possibly do is like some other anon said here >>94331446, you might be able to go into a quasi-drugged up fugue or something with it as your grasp on reality crumbles around you, and you think that's strong? i'm still very confident in saying that all you're doing is trying to rules lawyer the only part of the cyoa which is inappropriate for fighting heart devils into letting you resist heart devils>That is literally exactly my point. If everything ultimately boils down to the pursuit of happiness then clearly happiness is the strongest thing.okay, so it's a null tao where there is no commitment to anything, gotcha>....... Do i have to explain to you hapiness is an emotion and a state of mind?no, you need to explain what the fuck your happiness tao means in terms other than "it's everything lol">>94332137making them work isn't the issue, being obstinate about keeping them vague is
>>94332137All of them are strong. But their effects are different. The 4 seasons guy can revive the death and use elemental attacks. So for example a Time guy with a Tao at that level can do ridicously op shit too and probably more combat oriented
>>94332137Duh. It all comes down to preference. Arguing x dao is bad is outing yourself as a frog in a well.
Guys. Ignore Tao bugman. Everyone understood happiness anon (including the cyoa itself giving him the choice of emotions) except him. Don't bother
>>94332152>no, you need to explain what the fuck your happiness tao means in terms other than "it's everything lol"That part... was of my comment, not the other guy who I guess is the happiness anon. Anyway, I think a state of mind, an emotion, is the simplest thing to explain but I will try.I think he wants... happiness, and then you can add flavour like humanity is pursuing happiness and their capacity of defining it differentiates them from animals without the intelligence and blah blah blah... Why do you care so much and why are you so blind to something this obvious? The cyoa has fucking "my sword is the best" Tao which by definition was started by a nobody whose sword couldn't cut steel at first, come on
>>94332220i acknowledge that he wants happiness, and i don't know why you keep repeating that it's a state of mind as if that gives it more validity, since i never said it was inherently invalid, i said that it doesn't mean anything in the sense of communication, not that it's meaningless to him personally in his head>happiness, and then you can add flavour like humanity is pursuing happiness and their capacity of defining it differentiates them from animals without the intelligencethat's a bit more information than what he said, but you're not the same anon>Why do you care so muchthis conversation came through a tangent from the previous conversation>why are you so blind to something this obviousreally? it's obvious? then why don't you tell me if happiness to him is being in a drugged out haze as three people have guessed by now, or maybe it's instead about something like having a family, or traveling around the world and seeing sights, or the xianxia-appropriate killing of all his enemies, or maybe building bridges, or whatever the fuck else? if it's so obvious then why weren't you more specific?
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>Worshipping THEMSo this is how cyoag ends...
>>94332334It would be very healthy for this general to just stop for a few months I think.
>>94332334Yes. I worship the Skeleton of Eternal Delay.
Only Husanon can save us
>>94332426Italicskuna killed Husjo.
>>94332334Authors betrayed us. We need to burn this place down.
>>94332504You're not ready for Husjo to use [Strong Return] and oneshot Italicskuna with [Hollow Technique: Luminous Green]
>>94332345I agree, but this general did not stop when, for months, we got no OC, had like 16 ips every thread and it was all just shitposting and ritual posts. So I doubt they will stop now.
>>94333039Yeah, that's the unhealthy sore that needs to be lanced.
>>94332565>GojoNot even a funeral scene or people mourning him on his grave.
>>94332565Italicskuna is just going to asspull another [Promised OC] and use [Hype Expansion: Malevolent Delay] and if that doesn't finish off Husjo, he'll pull out the [Divine Release] to take over the general for another month thanks to the nature of Hype Expansion and Malevolent Delay making everyone volaitile.
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Cultivate dao Cultivate DaoFinally Dao CultivateNo considerate for rat and wrong. No consider rat, no consider ratWest will tremble !
>>94329477I think this one was kinda post apocalypticy
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This thread is still active? Neat!
>>94336823+17I choose to be single and celibate+3Eigfht gates formation *10-20I don't know the franchise but I now have 80 gates. I bet nobody else has so many gates.
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