Santa soon Edition>Point changes:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/g5ot1app/warhammer-40000-balance-update-points-changes-are-here-with-the-new-munitorum-field-manual/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>Tithes Animationshttps://gofile.io/d/GpvGgmhttps://gofile.io/d/3oPbxIhttps://gofile.io/d/T8ffnG>How to make wargames terrainhttps://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Previous thread:>>94369611 >Thread Question:What are your warhammer christmas hopes?
>>94373348Proper general, other one is schizo anon fucking everything up.>TQThat next year for Chaos doesn't suck.
First for chaos
>>94373380This looks like shit.
>>94373383Why would I care what a cocksuckin faggot like you thinks
>>94373348>TQFor tankbustas to release and be up for pre order before the year is over. I want those fucking models so badly it's not even funny
Continuing on the earlier convo, I thought Gdubs has a special place in the UK economy so the gov incentivizes them trying to to stay there in more ways than one? Including not expanding production overseas?
>>94373400Because you're clearly seething over it and replying despite supposedly "not caring".Go be a loser elsewhere, chaoscuck.
>>94373413>I thought Gdubs has a special place in the UK economyMaybe in the Nottingham economy and they aren't even the biggest private employeur in Nottingham
>>94373395Fair enough. I just think of it as mental toughening, but it can be hella annoying when you’re on a multi game loss streak cus you don’t wanna give up your boys. Highlander 40K is great though, anyone running three of the same unit is probably a dick. Variety is important. Though a bad player or terrain can make up for a lot even if they have a meta build.
>>94373462>anyone running three of the same unit is probably a dicklaughs in Imperial Guard
What is something about painting minis that everyone should do?
>>94373495taking paint straight out of the pot and putting it very thickly onto the miniature
>>94373495Use an airbrush and edge highlight.
>>94373510>edge highlighting with an airbrushhuh?
>>94373412they look really really goodcan't wait either, anon
>>94373495Thin paints with urine. Try it once, the results will speak for themselves.
Why is the chaos daemons battleline tax still a thing
>>94373528using your shit as a stabilizer is also a patrician tier technique
>>94373534For allying, that is
>>94373495paint tiny tattoos on the models to make them yourscan be whatever you want
>>94373515You really aren't the sharpest pencil in the box.
>>94373495have fun :)
>>94373413They’re just too cheap to expand. Iirc they had a factory in the US for a minute, but that was back when GW was still under Kirby’s poor leadership, so they never properly leveraged it as an overseas production facility.
>>94373575impossible
>>94373534Stopgap measure until Daemons can be carved up among the cult legions later on in this edition.
>tfw really like the idea of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0imnfKV0nIs>think I'm not autistic enough to follow through with my own ideas and have 10% of my army in a hyperspecific kitbash aesthetic and the rest looking like regular mooks when I give upwat do anons
>>94373596Get some self discipline and just don't burn out
>>94373438Lmao you're mad
>>94373596pay a 3d artist to sculpt those minis instead of kitbashing and then 3d print them
>>94373495Paint your minis then prime them. At the very least, hit it with varnish before priming.
>>94373348>TQJust the BA combat patrol box. It’s all I need of the new stuff all in one place.
>>94373625>paint your minis then prime them>then>paint then primeexcuse me?
Ignoring that the 9th ed codex is out of date, why would anyone do this?
>>9437361230 minutes and only come back you can think of is "no u"?
>>94373650Holy fuck kid get a life, are you on here refreshing the thread every minute? I'll let you have the last reply if it's that important to you.
>>94373630It works better for chaff units (stuff that goes on 25mm bases) but you get some gnarly results after repainting
Optimum equipment for 5 jump pack death company? I will soon have two squads.
>>94373644art, lore, collection purposes
>>94373656Penis
>>94373534To stop every chaos army spamming triple (Best greater daemon)
>>94373495Paying me to paint them. If everyone pays me the practice will make me a phenomenal painter, so everyone's miniatures will be painted well.
>>94373679As many power fists and eviscerators as possible.
>>94373656Mad
>>94373491Guard get a pass, their individual units aren’t too busted and die like flies.
I am once again asking, how would you make this dude worth more than a cool shelf decoration?
Is 6 vehicles in 2k too many if I'm going Iron Hands??
>>94373799Build an Imperial Agents list around it.
>>94373799run it as a proxy for something actually useful
>>94373348>TQ Solar auxiliary axe unit equivalences in 40k. Along with 40k rules for hh units.
>>94373805imperial agents is unfortunately a meme army with no army rule other than how to ally them in better armysalso they lost the monkey and that's unforgivable
Ok so, judging by WoB, Tzeentch's alternative to the TSons is the Scourged, Nurgle's alternative to the Death Guard is the Purge, Slaanesh's alternative to EC is the Flawless Host. What would Khorne's alternative to the World Eaters be?
How will the december changes save vanilla marines?
>>94373825crimson slaughter?
>>94373679If you want to hit as hard as possible, use a power fist + inferno pistol, one eviscerator, one plasma pistol. If you want a smoother and quicker gameplay experience, just take the power fist and inferno pistol.
>>94373825The Sanctified.
>>94373841Aren't they Undivided? Name sounds Khorny enough, though.
>>94373825Brazen Beasts>>94373841>>94373847Did you guys just like not play 8th and miss the renegades supplement?
>>94373827Another nerf to ironstorm
>>94373935Power of the Machine Spirit to 2CPMaster of the Machine War range nerf
>>94373825gladiator cadre
>>94373906>play 8thNow why would I do that? Anyway, The Sanctified is an explicitly Berserker warband made out of non-World Eaters, and were a main player in the same campaign as the previously mentioned The Purge.
I never knew there were pivoting rules when moving a modelI never knew models had to move in a straight lineWe always played that move characteristic is basically a circle around your mini in which you can move if it isn't blockedhuh
>>94373825Always been Brazen Beasts? >Purge subverts Nurgle because KILL ALL LIFE STERILE AND CLEAN >Host kinda subverts EC cuz far more duelist/perfection/untainted angle than noisemarine madness>I guess Scourged subverts Tzeentch cuz uhhhh um um idk, they are truth-seekers and their curse is mental while TSon one is physical>Brazen Beasts subvert Khorne/WE cuz they are extra shooty with a side of daemon engines
>>94374007>>Brazen Beasts subvert Khorne/WE cuz they are extra shooty with a side of daemon enginesSanctified make extensive use of Psykers, through their Apostles.
>>94374045Sanctified are WB though, even if they technically defected to WE. Idk if I would say they use a lot of psykers (Khorne probably wouldn't be happy bout that), they focus a lot on summoning daemons in particular, which is "erm technically ain't psykering" according to their weird double standard.
>bought FEC value boxes to have crypt horrors to convert into grotesquest with Talos bits>have about 30 leftover ghouls on spruesWhat do you do with models that you know you aren't going to build? Trade them? Think about new projects? (desu, no idea what would be some 500pts 'army' that could use naked zombie-ish looking freaks on 25mm bases? Full-cultist CSMs? GSC? Starved cannibalistic imperial guard from feral world?)
>>94374066>Sanctified are WB though, even if they technically defected to WEThey didn't defect, though. They're firmly WBs, just dedicated exclusively to Khorne. And if you REALLY want a WE warband you can have the Skulltakers, who subvert the WE by not being led by a lobotomized drooling retard. Also, The Purge are not Death Guard, and neither are The Scourged TSons.
>>94373495Only buy like 8 base paints in total and learn to mix like a real artist should, then use a thiner / medium to make homebrew washes. And if you want colourful metal, just finish a basic painy with a shinny varnish.
>>94374074Trading works. Chaos cult seems like a good fit. Guardsmen would probably take a lot of converting, but I like the idea.
>drukhari gets nerfed>worldeaters gets nerfedBros... is deathguard fun? Can i run mostly bloatdrones, terminators, and poxwalkers?
>>94374121Death Guard is strong right now, but that kind of thing changes all the time. DG offers some pretty varied gameplay ,however they are not nearly as mobile as mmsome other armies, even if they can reliably win games.For me the most fun would be something with good mobility and balanced shooting and assault, so you have a nice variety of playstyles. Leave balance tonthe side, that never holds up that well anyway. Case in point: Eldar of all flavors are dogwater right now, but playing them is still fun given how many options you have for lists and plays.
>>94374148Which armies have zero options? Where you pretty much autopilot it while organizing porn on your phone
>>94373947Gladiator cadre 331 is still fully zerker
>>94374148Is this the first time EVER that CWE are shit? Holy shit i need to start playing 10th editionFuck elves
>>94374175Votann, world eaters.
>>94374205They're like 50% winrate so not the best, but still better than a ton of armies.Yes, this means that Eldar are on an even footing with other armies and have a 50% WR and complain about being bad
>>94374148CWE were nerfed for no reasonDark eldar are actually way strongerSisters is strongerI think people just hate CWE due to past codices and its unfair
>>94374238CWE have been the best (or top 3) in the game for the vast majority of editions.
Sup 40kg. I repotted my plant into a bigger plot, but I'm scared I broke too many roots in the process. I hope my plant is okay bros. Just wanted to give him a bigger home.
>>94374238Some of CWEs roster is unusable garbage (RIP banshees) but that doesnt stop its core from being one of the 5 best armies
>>94374258>t. agriworld poster
>>94374258It should be alright unless you broke a bunch of big ones. Itll need time to heal though
>>94373348>TQI just want to see the EC for the christmas preview.
FUCCCKKK I'M TOP 15 I'M LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL GARBAGE I'VE NEVER BEEN THIS WEAK BEFORE NO ARMY CAN SURVIVE BEING THIS BAD FUCKKKK
if navigators are so special, rare, and important, why are we able to bring one as an ally?I know why you bring one, because a bubble of "don't try to buttfuck me bro" is really powerful, but what would be the fluff here
>>94374320>WE is 44%>still gets their shit nerfedUh.. GW???
>>94374175Do Tau have different option than shooting?
>>94373495gloss coat on eyes, lenses or slimy monster bits
>>94374320Why is mechanicus still bad? Didnt they get a huge as fuck buff
>>94374320>space marines that lowWho is going to buy them now?
>>94374355Kroot
>>94374121It could be worse. I finally got round to reading the Indice for EC focusing on another army. >Lucius the Eternal must be part of the army and must be warlord. welp that's a 2000 point army in the fucking trash. Who exactly at GW thinks people want Herohammer?
>>94374369Lmao
>>94374121If you're playing solely to have the most powerful army in the game, you're doomed to be unhappy and chasing a meta that shifts every few months.
>>94374320>Admech still at the bottom Is there any saving this army
>>94373644I collect codices and the more recent ones usually go for $5 at my FLGS (second edition ones usually go for $30-$40 reeeeee)
>>94374376>lucius the eternal must be part of the armyGrim. I wish they allowed Fabius even if hes more of a CSM character. We need options bros.....
>>94373348>TQBandai buys out GWor ADB gets firedorkit prices crash hard
>>94374369>space marines have low winrate %>whining about the edition being trash correlates perfectlyoh, they'll still paypig
how to paint emperors children?
>>94373534because Daemons are a retarded joke army that is literally 90% named Characters, and balancing every single one so they're good or decent in Daemons but not autoinclude in CSM/WE/TS/DG/CK is too much of a pain in the ass so they just added a mandatory points tax to make you think twice before jamming in Blue Scribes or whatever
>>94374379I just bought 1k points of GSC off mecari
>>94374224>have a 50% WR and complain about being badBecause you have few options for maintaining a workable army. More flavorful and varied lists are borderline unusable for CWE.
>>94374380They need datasheet changes. Every Admech player is sunk costing card because of the army's cost.
I FUCKING HATE COLORS
>>94374376>Who exactly at GW thinks people want Herohammer?I mean, I still run a smash captain as my warlord.That said, it's pretty bullshit EC get shafted so hard that they can't even run generic characters for their warlord.
>>94374406well, you'll need a couple of brushes, a primer, a varnish and then some paints and water to thin them
>>94374411So are most marine lists, 75% of the codex sees no use.
>>94374320>be ork player>be bottom of the meta for a while now>be not bitching and moaning about it because I still have fun playingMaybe the problem is you
>>94374379NTA i play admech loyally and i am NOT happy
>>94374415slap some fucking streaking grime on that dude and hit his eyes/weapon with some neon paint and he's perfect, man
>>94374320Why are space marines that lowFuckers have like 100+ unit choicesMy army has 23
>>94374362the entire book is completely fucking awful through and through, every single datasheet and sub-faction has nothing going onnothing short of rewriting it entirely will fix the armythe only detachment winning is the hunter cohort because you give 80+ bodies a -1 to hit in both phases (and the natural invul the army has) and t-pose on objectives and pray you roll saves better than they roll hit rolls.
Imagine if Angron instantly killed whatever he hit on a 6 with no saves of any kind allowed. Then imagine if he could only be hit on a 6. And couldn't be wounded by S4 or below. And cost less than 300 points. And you could take 3 of him.Cwe deserves to suffer.
>>94374441Could they just up all the numbers?
>>94374410whats that, the french ebay?
>>94374431Yeah but that's a "the army I like fucking sucks" issue. The other Anon sounded more like he was complaining about his armies no longer being top dog. That happens to everyone eventually.
What are some good IG units or some allies for an IG list? I’m building a fluffy inquisitorial guard list, and not sure how deep I should go on infantry or vehicles. I want a healthy mix of both but can’t seem to strike a good balance, I somehow always end up around 60 infantry.
>>94374439They have fingers dipped in a bunch of sub-armies so if they were too good, then everyone else gets good by default too.They're also a noobtrap so that inherently adds a bunch of losses from newer players.
>>94374458>WE>top dog
>>94374442Which unit?
>>94374320>Lost Brethren 75% WRIt must have been one guy, right?
>>94374320How do we fix black templars
>>94374458imagine how it feels as a WE player who just wants to run a normal army not an Angron smash list
>>94374489He's more expensive now which makes nongron viable
>>94374495that makes people stop only taking Angron but doesn't make the rest of the Codex any more viable.
>>94374431>>94374441>don't play so I don't care about the rules>I like pretty much every admech kit>buy and paint whatever I feel like at whatever pace I likeI guess being a nogames has its upsides
>>94374320>1st company taskforce WR that highliterally everybody has told me it sucks what's the deal
>>94374451>add 1 to the wound roll but only for a single 6 inch orb on the board and only after getting out a transport (none of your damage dealers go into your transports) and ate gluten for lunch and its a waxing crescent and oh this shit still cost 2cp after all those restrictions :^)some of the hogwash in this book cannot be made good no matter how many numbers you tweak
>>94374489Landraiders and beserkers wooow so cool
>>94374045Sanctified are irrelevant here. Sanctified were not given rules in the Vigilus supplement; BB were.
>>94374523cooler than eightbound and angron and maybe some jakhals if you're feeling extra daring today
>>94374521Jesus that is worthless>2 fucking CPWhoever wrote this either doesnt play admech or hates admech
If I wanted to make a necromunda ragtag group would they fit in best as gsc, chaos, or imperial cum?
>>94374488Remove them from the game
>>94374250I've played since 6th edition and in that time eldar have always been overpowered in some way. I've also read from other 40k boomers who played that eldar have been OP since 2nd edition except for before they got their codex in 4th. So it's not just that eldar have been the best for the vast majority of editions - it's that eldar have been overpowered in EVERY edition.
>>94374541CSM for sure
>>94374224The recent meta monday has CWE at 44% and DE Skysplinter got beaten like a fucking dog so badly to the point people are unironically going back to the literally broken and nonfunctional index Detachment since Skysplinter is now 37% winrate.https://40kmetamonday.wordpress.com/2024/11/11/11-11-24-the-cult-emerges/The reason nobody takes "REEEE FUCKING KNIFE-EARED SHITS THAT'S GOING DOWN IN THE BOOK OF GRUDGES!" Dawi-posting seriously is that it's not based in reality, you could proxy a World Eaters army rules-wise as elves and the hatred would be identical because it's entirely performative. >Pointy-eared custodes all-wraithsREEEEEEEEEWEE FUCK ELVES GOD I HATE THOSE KNIFE EARED FAGGOTS!>mechanized infantry with a bunch of tanks and war walkersREEEEEEEEEE IMPERIAL GUARD SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONES WITH TANKS KILL YOURSELVES THE KINGDOM UNDER THE MOUNTAIN WILL RISE AGAIN >aspect warriors and guardians are good PIECE OF SHIT ELF FAGGOT WITH YOUR BROKEN ARMY AND GW FAVORITISM >aspect warriors are trash and guardians are worthless STUPID UN-FLUFFY LISTS THAT'S GOING DOWN IN THE BOOK OF GRUDGES!!!>bikes are good, bikes are bad, psychic is good, psychic is bad, etc etc etcIt's the same in D&D and such, there's just a certain kind of person who makes performative elf hate their entire personality. It's not actually about the game or rules, it's because they're elves. I play Necrons and even shit like C'tan spam doesn't get 1/10th the hate that 40% winrate elves do, because we don't have pointy ears
>>94374489>>94374495>>94374507>>94374523You’re taking like 3 more eightbound if you aren’t taking angron. Anything else is a wrong answer.
>>94374532OkayEightbound in a landraider! I swear this entire army is a mistake made for monogod reasons every khorne unit will boil down to charging. Their terminators, the basic juggernaut cav unit, etc>Um this one jes Goodwin art of teeth of khorne for devestators bro!!!! It’s just a gimmick unit with plasma cannons the army was already boring face it
>>94374555>people are going back to that garbage soup detachmentBros...
>>94374557They dont have special terminators
>>94374362Fundamentally bad army rules and design alongside the fact that they lack the will to update more than a few things at a time. Kastelans are still not worth taking despite the cost which is just crazy to me because they're the focus of a detachment.
>>94374439They have a lot of unit choices but>GW is really fucking stupid with Character units and they don't all work properlySee Reivers (Being one of the worst units in the game) getting a Reiver Lt. who is so bad that he makes an already terrible unit even worse. Really restrictive character joining makes comboing a lot harder than you think>Most Datasheets are outright unusableA lot of skimmers, the bunkers, a ton (like the majority) of the infantry are completely non-viable. Regular Ints are only worth it for sticky on the home objective and you don't need more than 1, so every list has 1 intercessor 2 scout squads (cheapest action monkeys) and 2 inceptor squads (3in Deep Strike objective boys) and most of the other units there are terrible aside from like, Jump Ints. Some have potential like Heavy Ints, but nobody is paying over 200 points for some desolatorsquad of 3 or 80 for an infernus squad of 5.>Pre-Squat limbo zoneA ton of datasheets are kept intentionally terrible ahead of being squatted. Vanilla Rhino, Drop Pod, Tact Squads, Dev squads, Centurion squads and the fliers are kept intentionally dogshit because they're going away soon>PoachingBetter armies like Wolves or Dark/Blood Angels use Space Marine units or detachments, abuse them since you're obviously not intended to have access to Gladius Fire Support bombs with Azrael, so the 2 good detachments get repeatedly nerfed and their good units die as well. A Redemptor is good, but at 210 it's a lot less good than before>FlavourA lot of people have /theirdudes/ based off of a specific founding chapter and they removed all of that flavour for detachments and all the detachments aside from Gladius/Ironstorm (lance is fine in SW) suck so if you field fluffy you die>CharactersEvery Hero who isn't a Smurf is fucking DOGSHIT and you can't get +1CP without running Calgar since they squatted Chapter Masters. People who don't like UM are like 30%WR (It's that bad) and drag the average down.
>>94374555>I play Necrons and even shit like C'tan spam doesn't get 1/10th the hate that 40% winrate elves do, because we don't have pointy elvesSame i run 3 ctan and i get less hate than the CWE player. One guy at my store refuses to play with him
>>94374569Skysplinter got beaten with the NO FUN ALLOWED bat so hard people are back to just bringing as many dark lances as humanly possible in 2000 points since it's all they can do, you'll at least win against vehicle skew lists even if swarming nids and greentide shit down your neck
>>94374538I think it's the result of an oversized rules team that doesn't communicate with one another. They just haven't come up with halfway decent rules and it took them several editions just to stop the army from being arbitrarily cut in half.
>>94374557>their terminatorswhat terminators
>>94374573They don’t but cmon they will get them but how exactly will they change world eaters? Or a generic juggernaut unit.World eaters are too one trick with or without Angron. Death guard were never forced to take mortarion as much.
>>94374552black people play warhammer?
>>943744747th Edition Wraithknightsthey had Strength D weapons which had a rule that said more or less (If you roll a 6 to wound the unit dies no questions asked) since it was meant for Apocalypse, the game mode with titans. WK could be taken in normal games.They had 12 inch move, jump, were a Gargantuan creature, got Hammer of Wrath, and one of their rules let you take a template, put it around the base, and if you roll a 6 every unit underneath that template dies with no saves of any kind allowed. Everything that would normally easily wound like Poison or snipers only wounded on a 6+Old Str/T table meant that a T8 unit couldn't be wounded by S4 or below so it was immune to Las. Eldar got access to the Invisibility spell so it could only be hit on 6's. This monster was 295 points, and you could even take a ranged version with Strength D weapons. And somehow, SOMEHOW, this monster was not the strongest unit in the 7e Eldar codex, arguably the 3rd or even 4th best unit.7E Eldar was the most brainless army in the game by a significant margin, if you ever lost with it, you were absolutely dogshit.
>>94374552Almost like "glass cannon" is an incredibly powerful archetype.
>>94374320>GSC that highwell this certainly explains why everyone in my local is suddenly buying these little shitswhat's the best way to go about embarrassing the meta chasers here?
>>9437463340k is a game won by scoring and objectives, Eldar mobility will always be good until GW transitions to alternate activations. Same reason there's still fags seething about Tau jump-shoot-jump years and years later
>>94374555Funny coincidence yesterday...
>>94374608I bet you theyll get a terminator lord and THATS itBeing a worldeaters player is so fucking cucked. I hate being alive just like angronFuck this game and fuck this gay earthIm hella mad
>>94374608>>94374602Red butchers suck face it
>>94374666they look cooler than any other legion terminators so who cares
>>94374624>SOMEHOW, this monster was not the strongest unit in the 7e Eldar codex, arguably the 3rd or even 4th best unit.This would unironically make me seethe about elves to the end of time
>>94374642Doesn't OPR use alternating activations? Why not just play that?
>>94374673>>94374666I’m not even sure red butchers can exist anymore. 40k players just think they were special terminators/honor guard when they were actually meant as suicide squads who were STUCK in the armor and let loose.
>>94374602>what terminatorsWorld Eaters literally have a unique terminator data sheet with their own special ability separate from regular CSM chaos terminators>but they don't have red butchers in the name! they're just called World Eaters Terminators!and fucking Death Korps of Krieg are called """""veteran guardsmen"""", they're still goddamn DKOK you retard https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k10ed/factions/world-eaters/World-Eaters-Terminator-Squad
>>94374555>The recent meta monday has..don't care
>>94374680It does and at the start of 10th during peak clownshow that's exactly what I did, but I'd rather GW un-fuck the actual game for convenience's sake. 10th was the best advertising for OPR anyone could have asked for though
>>94374696we know you don't care, that's the whole point: the elf hate is theatrical
>>94374635What do you play?Ive seen an ork KoS list shit all over gscs lately
>>94374688>40k players just think they were special terminators/honor guard when they were actually meant as suicide squads who were STUCK in the armor and let loose.wrong on everything but being stuck in their armorimpressive!
>>94374691>russian siteNo viruses please...
>>94374712I don't care specifically for meta monday and the retard that runs it.Elf hate however is absolutely rooted in reason
>>94374735>doesnt know what wahapedia isnewfag secondaries OUT
>>94374719knights, I know mathematically they can't kill a lancer they are able to screen against it easilymaybe more skew towards units that are anti-infantry vs the usual anti-vehicle list?
>>94374688"Not being able to take their armor off" is the norm for most heavily chaos affected shit. Same with their dreadnoughts which are always on. Daemon princes have their armor fused to their body.
>>94374735Waha is solid, basically everyone uses it
>>94373348What's better with jumpack intercessors, big 10 man squad or two 5 man squads?I'm more inclined towards 2 squads just so I can have two sergeants just for aesthetic reasons. I'm using HH models and upgrades
>>94374735Its safe... if skari uses it im using it
>>94374674Yeah Eldar also had these little dudes with flamers that were strength D-1, which meant that >All attacks autohit>On a 3+, they lost D3 wounds or hull points (A 7th ed Landraider had 4 Hull points, most other vehicles including the Leman Russ, had 3.)>Ignored all armour saves>Anything T5 or lower would instantly die regardless of total wounds unless they had a special rule called Eternal Warrior (which only existed on VERY few units and was like 30 points to buy as a generic marine)>Eternal Warrior made it so you only went down to 1 wound>A squad of these guys dropping out of a transport would reliably kill a land raider, and a squad of assault termies inside of it, AND the character leading the squad.>This cost 210 points
A couple of questions that I'll be crossposting: what's with the particular aversion that 40K fans has towards crossovers of any kind? Even small fun little pieces of fanart that shows a clash between differing factions is enough to give the average grog a coronary.Secondly, does anyone know a good toy or kit line to use as a base for Ork vehicles?
>>94374781>what's with the particular aversion that 40K fans has towards crossovers of any kind?We generally don't want whatever people they bring over
>>94374781Takes me outta the lore, since 40k is a wargame its always felt more like a pseudo historical to me personallyIts like if they put power rangers in bolt action
>>9437478111 bucksLook for disney movie tie ins
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>>94374820
Sample 7th Edition Eldar list>Windrider Host>Tempest of BladesSkyrunner Farseer Shard of Anaris (Remnant of Glory) Singing spear Skyrunner Eldar JetbikeSkyrunner Warlock Conclave Brotherhood of Psykers , Communion of MindsJetbike Vyper Squadron Shuriken cannon, Shuriken cannonWindriders 6x Windrider with Scatter laserWindriders 5x Windrider with Scatter laserWindriders 3x Windrider with Scatter laserWraith Constructs -Wraithknight Scatter laser, Two Heavy Wraithcannons Ancient DoomSword of Vaul Wraith Constructs Wraithknight Scatter laser, Two Heavy Wraithcannons Ancient DoomSword of Vaul Wraith Constructs Wraithknight Ghostglaive and Scattershield Ancient DoomSword of Vaul Wraith Constructs Wraithknight Ghostglaive and Scattershield Ancient Doom
>>94374747Block of 10 with a chaplain and a 1 cp strat shit out anywhere from 6-14 mortal wounds followed by 45 chainsword attacks with+1 to wound. They kill C’tan with only slight difficulty and will pick up any space marine vehicle in a single turn.
Are there any imperial guard commander proxies that look more like a tactician, surrounded by data readouts, servo skulls, scrolls and shit like that? I don't want a niggrr pointing a gun I want a guy looking through a spyglass or something.
>>94374870is that just Grenades->charge?
>>94374519only 1 person playing it lmao
>>94374555>It's the same in D&D and such, there's just a certain kind of person who makes performative elf hate their entire personality. It's not actually about the game or rules, it's because they're elves.Idk where this meme started but its genuinely so fucking tedious finding these sort of people in every single fucking fantasy or scifi fanbase out there. It doesnt matter if they're space elves, forest elves, weird eldritch elves, or elves in everything but name, some fucker somewhere will make it his job to be the designated hater for no fucking reason and then act like he's so cool and clever. No other imaginary race in fiction has such a dedicated autist hatebase.
World eaters can’t support cataphracti terminators they aren’t getting special ones
>>94374910nobody cares about your headcanon
>>94374781
It's alive!!
>>94374555Old people and redditors literally never get sick of a joke.
>>94374917elfsimps are literal redditors crying about fantasy racismway to out yourself
>>94374922Shut up kitts
Be real with me. WHY are elves hated?Dwarves are literally german jews and no one hates them
>>94374555Dios mio, mucho elffag texto autismo
>>94374933angry drunk miners are much more enjoyable to the higher echelons of humanity than arrogant dainty faggots who cause problems and then take credit for solving them
>>94374555people hate eldar not because LOL ELVES but because they've been the most broken army in the game by a significant margin for most editions in the game and cringe eldar players go "IT'S HIGH SKILL CAP? GLASS CANNON?" while spamming shit like waveserpents or WKsI hope your army is nerfed even worse, I hope it's genuinely unplayable and they squat half your fucking range.
>>94374947It IS high skilledYou try and play them and win an RTT
>>94374555>I play Necronsnothing vomits what you did and not play elves, fucking knife eared motherfucker! this is why you are hated!
>>94374953>woosh
>>94374953case in point
It's still funny to me how much more valuable secondary objectives are compared to primary objectives. It makes sense from a gameplay perspective, primaries are usually very easy to score comparatively, but it's still funny to me thinking that despite retrieving the data, an army could lose to another one because the other army was sitting in their zone.
>>94374953You are part of the problem
>>94374956we fought on opposite sides of the war in heaven bro
Q: Do you score the Assassination Secondary Mission twice when you destroy CANIS REX then SIR HEKHTUR?A: Yes.Q: Do you score the Bring It Down Secondary Mission when you destroy CANIS REX?A: No. The Using SIR HEKHTUR rule on the Sir Hekhtur datasheet states that your CANIS REX unit is not considered to be destroyed until Sir Hekhtur is also destroyed. Once Sir Hekhtur has been destroyed, the Bring It Down Secondary Mission can be scored.I do not understand, if Canis Rex does not count as destroyed until Hekthur is destroyed how does assassination score twice??
>>94374904Theres also the inverse, equally annoying and more often female elf-obsessed elf lover who is only into a settings' elves and is unable to understand why noone else loves elves as much as they do.I do wonder if women are more likely to collect/play eldar or deldar
>>94374984No there aren't.
>>94374989yes there arecry about it confirmation bias'd elftranny
>The best CSM lists still play zero actual Chaos Space Marine>If you're interested in winning you're always better off putting 200 cultists on the table instead of the actual namesake of the faction
>>94374933>WHY are elves hated?Ask yourself, if "Orcs are black people" and it's politically incorrect to paint them as savages and make them always evil, what ethnicity do Elves correspond to? That will answer your question both why people engage in over the top performative elf hate, and why it's socially acceptable but orc hate isn't
>>94374953If being a high skill glass cannon army is why eldar are thought of as having been overpowered for literally the entire game's lifespan, why haven't dark eldar been even more overpowered for that same timespan? Dark eldar are even more glass cannony than regular eldar and are generally accepted to have an even higher skill ceiling than regular eldar, after all...Hint: it's because eldar regularly get to ignore the glass part of cannon and heavily amplify the cannon part of cannon. invis spamming, gargantuan creature poison on 6+ having, 3+ jink saving, -3 to hit airplane spamming, clown using C O C K S U C K E R
>>94374983Assassination scores per model, bring it down scores per unit
>>94374984the only three bio-women I know who actively collect and paint all collect orks
>>94374320>CWE only 50% winrateIts so fucking over
>>94374984I've met at least a single biological female player for just about every army except any of the elves. Noone thinks elves are cool, especially not women
>>94374995>>The best CSM lists still play zero actual Chaos Space MarineThe best general CSM lists are Raiders, which include lots of CSM you dingus
>>94374984>women when they see a drukhari playerThis is a sight a space marine player will NEVER see
>>94374989Uhh there very much isJust look at most rpg spaces or which characters are the most popular among women in crpgs, now I dont know if this is the same for 40k as the male/female ratio is much more skewed
I've realized my Iron Warriors army is basically a Heresy army minus a warpsmith and obliterators. Even the knight that I soup in as an ally is a heresy knight, god help me.
>>94374901And the chaplain, he does mortals on a 4+ when he activates.
>>94375007>your CANIS REX unit is not considered to be destroyed>unit is not considered to be destroyedI see, that's very nitpicky
>>94374984Theres a surprising amount of women who play rape elves. I know no female woman who plays cwe or harlequins though ONLY rape elves
>>94375024Okay
>>94375005>elvesImperial Japanese people at the start of ww2
>>94375005>>94375045elves are jews
>>94375033Im not surprisedWomen love their evil elves, just look at solas or astarion
Why can't we just be friends? Out armies van hate each other, but that doesn't mean we should too.
>>94375060Fuck you, you never comment my models
>>94375060>but that doesn't mean we should too.Why? You're not fun to play into
>>94375051Elves dont care about money(((Dwarves))) do(((Goblins))) #do
Do you have any nice colour scheme to paint sisters of battle to make them properly goth?
>>94375060Get fucked, you're stupid and your models are too
>>94375075elves cause all the problems and demand others solve them while blaming them for the problems in the first place
>>94375020Being popular is not what was described.
Im back bois
>>94374989you being this defensive about elves is proof there are people like that lmao
>tfw you just bought the weakest datasheet in your army cause it looks coolit'll probably get buffed eventually
>>94375078Fag
>>94375091Poxwalkers?
>>94375088Retard
>>94375018It's reveser gender of 'stop loving evil women'. Women love money. Women love power. Women love drugs. Women love pain. Archons have money, have power, give drugs and pain. And you can hope to fix him. Drukhari wouldn't need to abduct anybody. Just park your raider at nearest imperial world and people will come.
>>94375065You can't stop me from dropping a "nice dudes" whenever you post them. I WILL compliment your efforts and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>94375100yeah you would have to be legally retarded to simp for elves this hard
>>94375081That makes elves British
Why aren't you a self-published 40k writer yet? Are you embarrassed of your own stories?
>>94375111>Are you embarrassed of your own stories?No, but there are some people who really ought to be.
Is there a good way to run a majority traitor guard army with a handful of CSM?
>>94375156There's a Lost & Damned detachment for csm that makes traitor guardsmen BattleLine (so you can have up to 6 units of them) and buffs anything with the Damned keyword, which includes cultists, beastmen, and traitor guard.
Do you prefer your models to look crisp and clean or like they have been through the battlefield recently?
>>94375188I tend to prefer cleaner models but there's a balance with weathering.If it looks like it has been unironically dragged through mud it's kinda shit
>>94375188Chapter serfs hose everyone down with a power washer after deployments, there's no excuse for looking like a Nurgle warband covered in shit unless that's what you actually are.
>>94375188Well maintained with acute weathering
>>94375111Deeply.
>>94375210How about Orks and World Eaters?
>>94375219da runts lick me trukkz clean after each scrap
>>94374849holy shit that takes me fucking back...FUCK YOU GAMES WHORESHIT AND ROBBIN CRUDFACE FAGGOT
>>94375188I would love to see crisp Death Guard and Great Bathed One.
>>94375102CAN they fix him?
>>94375172Where is that?
>>94375248They wouldn't be the first to try.
>>94375219>worldeatersIf red well maintained because the warp does itIf heresy era, extreme weathering
Anyone got a lead on where I can get some ironbreaker helmets without buying a kit I dont want just for them? I have looked for 3d print scans, checked ebay for people parting out the kit, just not having any luck. A longshot but worth it to ask here, I hate the nasa helmets on votann and think these and their shields would be a cool conversion. (Not my idea saw it a few places and looks nice but nobody had a source which means they have some 3d scan rip they aren't willing to risk getting deleted in my experience.)
>>94375293Buy an ironbreakers box and copy it using green stuff, infinite helmets
>>94375188white basecoat, bright colours and no weathering. The antichrist can force me not to. >>94375219>World EatersLhork mentions that before the nails most World Eaters maintained their own weapons and battleplate as much as possible but afterwords they just let their serfs do it all.
Redpill me on Blanchitsu, do you like it and if so what's the best way to do it?
>>94375330>scope on a meltagun
>>94375188Heavy weathering is fun and kino
>>94375340John blanche is a hack and always has been
>>94375340I like it for certain one-off hobby projects, maybe a mordheim or necromunda team at most, but it doesn't lend itself to armies. as for method, the biggest thing I think is texture and finishes. >pre-texture under primer with stippled tamiya putty>texture pastes>technical stuff like streaking grime>pigment powders>stipple the paint even to add more and more texture
>>94375247
>>94375188I usually only add some simple weathering like dust around the bottom of the model and maybe some scratches on large metal panels. I prefer details on models to be visible and not too obscured by too much weathering. People here often call my stuff "crisp" so I guess it looks at least somewhat the way I intended
>>94375438Found mechanicanon
>>94375451maybe
>>94375461Goteem
>>94375346how do meltaguns even work in lore? As a kid I thought they worked like the Lava Gun in Ratchet and Clank. My understanding is they work like a really powerful magnetron that rapidly excites everything in its path, boiling liquids and making metal red hot
>>94375507I dunno ask /hhg/
>>94375507>inb4 "vape gun"
>>94375346You know a shotgun can fire a solid projectile with enough accuracy to warrant a scope, right?
WHAT DO I DO NOW
>>94375507Used to be microwave guns, nowadays they just use fuel like promethium to cause the melta blast.Basically meltas work like a propane torch, but the torch flame only appears for a millisecond and it's hot enough to punch clean through space age super metal.
>>94375571put some contrast/ink/wash over the white parts and then base it, it looks good already
>>94375582What color? Not green I hate green.
>>94375571What >>94374432 said
>>94375583Pick a fucking colour you like then
>>94375583Arent you the purple necrons anon from the other day? Do a purple contrast paint like leviathan or magos.
>>94375583Orange. Maynarkh is best anyway.
>>94375586I don't wanna risk fucking it up with any sort of weathering>>94375593Yes I hate the purple it was too dull
>>94375583pretty much anything bright will go with your scheme so just pick your favorite color. I'd go with turquoise or purple myself
>>94375598Do you have flesh tearers red? Use that then.
>>94375601this anon is right too, red will look great
>>94375568You know a shotgun is smoothbore, right? You're free to show me all the evidence of how the shotgun with slugs is great at distances that warrant the use of a high magnification scope.
is it autistic for me to just want to pay my csm in all sorts of different warband modalities? what i mean is tanks and demon engines as iron warriors, demonic dudes as word bearers, legionaries as the black legion. i want /mydudes/ to be a collection of specialists from other warbands. in reality i just don't want to paint all my dudes the same scheme and think some units just look better in other schemes.
I say often that I want older editions back that make 40k a wargame and not its current card game iteration, but taking a look back at my old codicies and all that I can honestly say the two things I think should really make a return is points per [thing] and WARGEAR OPTIONS. The first is a no-brainer and feeds into the second, which would have the sub-wish of non-box-only wargear availability. I guess it would also mean that it isn't "combi-weapon" but have differences, for example. But to have wargear back would allow /your dudes///my dudes/ instead of /GW's dudes/ because that's what's in the box. It's upsetting that this isn't still a thing and arguably one of the biggest mistakes of current 40k.
>>94375606Realismfags deserve the rope. Go play bolt action or flames of war
Finished up my first dog.
>>94375645he looks like he fucks air caste women
>>94375645I like your dog, anon
>>94375618>I say often that I want older editions backthey didn't go anywhere
>>94375618>the last thing a truckload of rations sees
>>94375655he just wants to complain anon, don't interrupt him
>>94375618everyone says they want old edition back until they have to actually go play with grognards
>>94375642I accept your concession.
>>94375401Eh, looks disgusting, I like the unclean one more.
>>94375250....in the CSM codex
>>94375645Good pupper.
>I hate 10th edition>Hey why don't we play [insert older edition here] or learn [insert older edition before our time]>Eh don't feel like it, let's play 10th.EVERYTIME
>>94375401>turning GUO into a MTG playerthat's fucking foulnurgle would probably approve
>>94375645What the dorg doin
>>94375573They're still microwave guns, it's not literally microwaves but it's a subatomic reaction heating shit up in their path
>>94375645499 left.
>>94375655I understand that, but even with a good group it's difficult to get people to play them. Even people you've played them with when they were current. There has to be some sort of phenomenon that describes this.>>94375669I see this said too often. I really question exactly who you people played with in order for it to be said. Against folks like tourneyfags who will argue over any rule I can sort of see it (don't play with those people, and don't be those people) but when templates were around (and with HH) no one I know was or has been a piece of shit to argue about them or any other rule. Facing was easy if you weren't a total retard, same with templates and spacing your guys out (if you measured exactly to save the maximum number of models from a template then you're either a tourneyfag or just a regular faggot). These are the complaints I see most, and it really makes me question if the complainers even played, or if they did what was their own mentality towards the game?
>>94375719Microwaves don't need fuel to burn, dumbass.Neither do microwaves create visible flames.
>>94375642This has to be a joke post. Those two aren't realistic at all.
>>94375704Maybe you should find people who also dislike 10th and then you can have a little play date with the other autistic boys instead of pestering people who are content playing what they're playing already
>>94375685No it's called chaos cult.
>>94375723>it's difficult to get people to play them. Even people you've played them with when they were current. There has to be some sort of phenomenon that describes this.>Anon is confused by the prospect of people who actively played during [old edition] not preferring itlol
>>94375733Your aspergers is showing
>>94375739How do you not follow a simple conversation?I have friends that complain about 10th 40k all the time but will never give older editions another whirl or get to know where the game came from. WHY would you torture yourself with a game you dislike instead of trying something new or fuck go back to an edition we all enjoyed together?
>>94375719I feel like meltas should've been induction weapons and volkites microwaves. At least based on their effects. Meltas are specifically anti-tank weapons, so using induction to heat up metals and melt them down feel more suitable. Meanwhile microwaves have all sorts of flashy effects on organic stuff, which would be more suited for volkites.
>>94375745This. It's not a cult. It's an organization that promotes love and...
they should buff torrent weapons, greentide and GSC looking too comfy lately
>>94375755You wrote in your initial post>I hate 10th editionWhich implies that you hate tenth edition not your friends.
>>94375781They should make a killa Kan with pants
>>94375784I'm sorry that newfags forgot that>is a quote function and not an ebin maymay arrow. Even then, how the fuck did you not pick up it was a back and forth by lines 2 and 3?
>>94375781GSC looking too comfy so you're gonna buff the weapon most of their models are sporting in a non-biosanctic list huh
>>94375731>Microwaves don't need fuel to burnthey need a power source and they're not literal microwaves, just a similar molecular heating reaction. It's scifi bullshit to begin with. >visible flamesmeltaguns are hot enough they ignite the air in their path to the target They are not just fancy Flamers, and they are explicitly described as similar to microwaves in how they work. Blame nogunz britbongs if you're mad at anti-tank microwaves.
>>94375784Subhuman
>>94375606Its a huge slug coming out of a STRAIGHT FUCKING TUBEit doesnt need riflingYoure not shooting past 200 yards
>>94375792Because you made no effort to differentiate the people who were talking.
>>94375798yesflamethrowers are cool
One day it will come back to its' former glory, one day.
>>94374995Based. Cultists and traitor guard are super based.
>>94375731>Microwaves don't need fuel to burn, dumbass.Depends on how you create the microwaves. There's hydrogen masers and such in real life. How often do you see melta users carry extra ammo for them anyway? There's plasma flasks, laser batteries, etc. but I haven't seen spare melta canisters. There's even one DG who carries spare barrels, rather than ammo.>Neither do microwaves create visible flames.Fluff has been very consistent with meltas having an invisible beam with merely a super-heated shimmering of air.
I'm gay, what's the best army for me?
>>94375833Some variety of space marine if you're gay but into mpreg/hypno/daddy shit.Otherwise there's always the Navy
>>94375833Dark Angels
>>94375804
>1x Castellan>4x cadians in chimeras>Kasrkin>Demolisher tank commander>LR with battle cannon>LR with autocannon>Rogal dorn>Manticore>2x scout sentinelsWhat would you add for the remaining 220 points?
>>94375833>topWorld eaters, space wolves, blood angels>bottomDrukhari, dark angels, tyranids, gsc
>>94375842>>4x cadians in chimerasyou're going to need more than 4 Cadian models to win the game
So the Scout pads fit on regular marine shoulders and how do they compare in size to the right shoulder of the Phobos armour? I'm looking for ways to pimp phobos suits and the right arm is a limiting factor. There's only a few kits with arms for them, so if you want something that's not in those kits, you're forced to start chopping parts up.
>>94375830>Fluff has been very consistent with meltas having an invisible beamAll the fucking art depictions and games that have meltas show it is just a giant flame ball.
>>94375842I'd add some social skills you IG autist
>>94375842Have you considered adding guardmen to your guardsmen army
>>94375842Lord Solar is mandatory to play guard unless you're doing scions spam or full indirect
>>94375860he has 40 Cadians in 4 transports, how is that not enough guardsmen, plus kasrkin on top
>>94375860I have 50
Do you think that "Add a shot for every 5 models" is the best way to represent blast weapons or is there a better way?Blast markers are never coming back to the game so don't bother with that answer.
>>94375861The model is too gay
>>94375854Stop being retarded
Do aquilon make old scions look dated or are they pretty much the same?
>>94374737>Being emotional about platic toy soldiers is rooted in reasonSure thing, kid.
>>94375874>bro the beam is invisibleClearly shows a red fucking beam of fire.Are you fucking retarded yourself?
>>94375873Convert the ebil one from aos
>>94375864>>94375866Needs moar
In the middle of the current elf hate discussion, I'll bring up how funny it is that Eldar say that unit like this is bad when it is a completely fine statline.
>>94375854>artThere's the problem. Besides, you heat gas up and it'll give off light too.
>>94375854>All the fucking art depictions and games that have meltas show it is just a giant flame ball.by which you mean "my only experience of 40k is Space Marine II and it works like that". try playing DoW you Gen A nigger or looking at almost any art.
I got a few guard and marine kill teams, can I combine them into a small army or allying like that not a thing in 40k?
>>94375873Convert the non-ebil one from aos
>>94375889>>bro the beam is invisibleAre you actually braindead or just illiterate?The MELTA reaction and beam is invisible, but it's hot enough to superheat the air in its path and ignore the air between the gun and its target. It's the same with noise, the Meltagun itself is silent, but the distinctive sound it makes when fired is all the water in the air flash vaporizing.>Red beam of fireit's not shooting a beam of fire you moron, it's shooting a beam that heats anything in its path, which melts straight through armor and sets the very air on fire. It's not shooting fire, it's causing oxygen to ignite due to the molecular heat.It's the difference between a flame-thrower or napalm and sticking a fucking fork in the microwave
>>94375881>a strawman, 3 hours lateElfniggers aren't sending their best
>>94375900shit, I have knights with similar weapon stat lines that cost 4x as much for toughness and wounds stat checks lmaoand they can't even fire overwatch to protect themselves
>>94375921Do they ever send their best though
>>94375922>I have knights with similar weapon stat linesWhat?
>painting orange on a mini where I can't use a contrast
>>94375909Art like the codex witch hunters cover?
>>94375900>completely fine statlinea T3 1W melee unit that costs 13 points per model, has AP-0 and D1 weapons on everybody but the squad leader, and falls over flat the instant somebody overwatches you with a single flamer is not a "fine statline"banshees and scorpions are both trash this edition since they're barely able to even deal with fucking Guardsmen. If you want to see what an actually good version of Scorpions looks like, Incubi exist and are actually worth running (especially since you're not limited to a single Archon in your entire army unlike Phoenix Lords as leaders)
>>94375942Scorps are regularly taken at a GT+ level
>>94375909Dow is one of the most lore inaccurate games theyve released.
>>94375929knights are loaded with a hilarious amount of ap -1 weapons for how few models you're allowed to take
https://youtu.be/IJQpb4QsD6U?si=hLakTGJ8Nr-Zkz3WIs this what the Hive Mind would sound like?
>>94375951as infiltrator action monkeys because the current mission pack favors infiltrators, not to ever melee anything. That's like saying Mandrakes are taken for their melee stats
>>94375956So you think a random stubber having a comparable profile is relevant at all?
>>94375942Incubi are the same in terms of suvivability, don't have infiltrators, don't get to fish for more hits, don't get to have dev wounds vs their preferred targets, don't have fate dice and cost 4 points more per model. Yes, their weapons are better to start with and may perform better overall, but to say that scorpions are "garbage" is hyperbolic as fuck.
>>94375965Nah, got plenty better models for that.
>>94375938Try jokaero over white undercoat. If you need to go brighter go up to firedragon, if you need to go more saturated go up to firedragon and the glaze your flats with trollslayer or an orange contrast
>>94375958Like this:https://youtu.be/XQykP9NHJXU?t=240Weird to think they're the same VA:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo53JsM6R6Y
>>94375987If I could use a white undercoat then I'd be able to use a contrast paint nigga
>>94375830So is melta made by the gun itself?
>>94375971yes?if your only guns don't do anything to anyone and the stuff you can kill in melee with your actual powerful weapon runs away from you and the stuff that wants to get into melee will down every knight except the Lancer in one turn, it kind of makes you laugh about your knight costing 400+ pointsthere's a reason every knight list is canis rex + callidus + all armigers
>>94375956Scorpions aren't even AP-1 melee. Biting Blade and Scorpion's claw are mutually exclusive options only available to the squad exarch, everybody else is stuck with the S4 AP-0 D1 chainswordsBlood Claws are a single point per model more but get AP-1 chainswords, double the wounds, higher toughness, and double the OC. Banshees are even more unplayable since you can't even jerk off in the corner doing objectives with them, they need a transport and can't even chew through a blob of guardsmen very effectively
>>94376001>yes?Gotcha, retarded.>if your only guns don't do anything to anyone"I only have S18 AP5 D6+8 guns.. that does nothing.."
People who dont play death guardCan you tell their HQs apart? Looks like all the same shit to me
>>94375799Wouldn't a particle beam weapon reconcile both camps? You still need a wave firld to charge and deliver the particles, and it can work sort of like a mega plasma torch.
>>94376007no one is taking the dominus and up class knights with those guns lmao
>>94375861dear god why do we live in the timeline where even fucking IG have goofy "super" HQ choices ala Primarchs. Also how is it that a 4-5 years ago people used to argue constantly with me about "a senior officer shouldn't have a statline. It's too unrealistic to be fielding a staff officer like a Colonel in a skirmish" are now just meekly accept that the fucking Lord Solar is a HQ choice (it's like a joke answer to who should be an IG epic hero) Are we that inoculated to slop?
>>94375983Incubi are AP-3 (2 base, +1 from powred by pain) instead of AP-0, have twice as much damage, and have full-rerolls to both hit and wound on their go-turns thanks to Archon and pain token.In Skysplinter they also get +1 to wound on top. Incubi led by an Archon can mulch a fucking Knight on the charge (AND EVEN BETTER, THERE'S AN ENHANCEMENT TO BE IMMUNE TO OVERWATCH, THE SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR T3 1W MELEE UNITD THIS EDITION) while Scorpions pathetic even into MEQ
>>94376020woe is me.. I only have weapons that are S12+, plenty of AP and multi damage.. its actually just the same as S4 AP0 D1...
Looking fucking badass is the only advantage of playing Chaos.
This discussion really highlights bloat of the game and how bad numbers have gotten in these last few editions.
>>94376049that's not particularly good looking for a chaos lordhe's just plastic
>>94376034and yet your army has a higher winrate than mineif striking scorpions make you piss and shit yourself in rage, maybe don't take them, like every other army does with their shitty units
Cultists should get wargear back.
>>94376049The belt is too cartoonish
>>94376060>I want cultists with guns!use traitor guardsmen
>>94376050Wych statline has remained literally unchanged since 3rd edition. They went from good melee lockdown units able to keep even high valuable enemies tied up with them to literal fucking cannon fodderhttps://pietyandpain.wordpress.com/2024/01/26/the-problem-with-trickle-down-lethality/This is an autistic blog post from the start of 10th edition going in depth into the idea of you care, the TL;DR is wound inflation for MEQ was a mistake.
>>94375719Stop being assholes, it’s not complicated. Melta guns are effectively plasma shotguns as they have been depicted in all media since. The precise method of the reaction is not clear. Don't worry about the process too much.
>>94376067I want them both.
>>94376058The problem with big knights is they're massively overcosted pieces of shit, not their statline. If they were as cheap as C'tan you'd have 65%+ winrate.Are you genuinely so stupid you can't comprehend that an identical unit can swing between overpowered must-have and worthless paper weight depending on how many points it costs? The reason 80+ MEQ body black templar marinetide lists were so fucking oppressive is their cost efficiency, not because Crusaders are some god-tier unbeatable statline
>>94375991I assumed it was because you were working on something with large flat surfaces like a tank. If I knew it was because you were incapable of basecoating something white over a dark undercoat then I wouldn't have bothered saying anything
>>94376081then use 2 units of traitor guardsmen but use cultist models with autoguns for one of them
>>94376077They shoot a straight line beam, there's nothing shotgun-like about them unless you mean "short range" but even that's massively incorrect since they're Anti-Tank options, while Plasma is for killing people in power armor, not popping a land raider.Melts is also safe to use, reliable, and easy to mass produce and manufacture, it's not lost relic shit or DAOT relics like plasma weaponry.
>>94376096>If I knew it was because you were incapable of basecoating something white over a dark undercoat then I wouldn't have bothered saying anythingbasecoating something in an equally irritating color to layer up doesn't help me any
>>94376084that's exactly what I saidtry reading
>Mate showed me a blood angels captain with an enhancement for sus. hits 3 with a chainsword and popping his dev wound vs oath of moment target with a squad of assault intercessors for ability (assuming on objective)>He rolls really good, consistently killing my angron in this theoretical test and then some using abilities to fish for dev wounds with this popped>Decide to hop onto unit crunch to see averages>Results:Did my friend roll really good? I mean, this is still nothing to scoff at but using the exact same stats and conditions he told me about I'm not seeing how he could consistently down knights or angron with this captain.
>>94375912The best you can do is run the CSM rules and use the same units because they have traitor guard
>>94376109Now when I say consistently, I mean that in his rolls to show me this he always overkilled the target by a significant margin.
>>94376101plasma weaponry is mass produced too
>>94376109Are you re-rolling only missed or all hits? With Sustained Hits 3 you can fish for 6s even on regular hits
>>94376122Yeah I've got reroll all hits and reroll all wounds set up for this.
>>94376109The only captain that gets dev wounds doesn't get a chainsword
>>94375912Imperial agents maybe
>>94376129Even then, the power weapon would still work with this with 6 attacks base.
>>94376129The blood angels captain has a master-crafted chainsword and gets 10 attacks with 2 damage and devastating wounds via Finest Hour
>>94376102Sounds like a skill issue imo
>>94376106>that's exactly what I saidThats actually not at all what you said, you cried bitch tears about your guns not doing things to people and comparing your statline to S4 AP0 D1 chainswords. Knights are most certainly not lacking in the statline department, they have some of the most powerful weapons available. So your complaints are nonsensical.
Will i get kicked out if i painted my genestealers with black skin tones? Im lily white
>>943761397 base + 3 for finest hour + 1 for the detachment for 11, no?
>>94376151I would probably rape you. No homo.
>>94376156Yeah red thirst is an additional+1 attacks and +2 strength to the entire unit on the charge, idk if anon was factoring that in or not
>>94375956its a great tragedy anon. knightslop lists only have a 98% winrate. If we let a every Knight have a S32 AP-5 volcano canon with 18 Damage as you suggest I think we can reach 98.8%
>>94376156Anon who had the unit crunch to begin with: Yeah that's correct. Even if there chainsword didn't exist that'd be 10 attacks for the power weapon which doesn't change a whole lot with this fucker. While shocked that the hurt this does mathematically, I'm more shocked how lucky my friend must be to be rolling above average. I don't want to assume foul play with it either.
>>94376159>first thing he thinks about is rapingDL ass ni
>>94376151If you're painting them black to have them be different and be a fun painting project then you'll be fine, if you're doing it as a racist bit then you're going to let something racist slip one day while playing and then will be witch hunted and removed from your lgs
>>94376146no, you didn't read what I saidI stated knights have shitty statlines, and we do have some knights with shitty statlines regardless of what you think we do or don't have, that are overcostedso either the statlines are fine, and we need a cost adjustment, or the statlines are not fine and need a boost to match the cost>>94376168knights barely have a 48% winrate, I think they're at 51% this week with no actual event wins
>>94376174Not him but i got kicked out for talking about the refugee "crisis" with a friend. They told me i was making people feel unwelcomed. I have never seen a muzzie or black in the store
this is probably been answered a million times but anyway, do i have to swap all of my ork boyz over to bigger bases now?
>>94376169For posterity this is what I've set up in UnitCrunch (I couldn't be bothered to remember to set up Sus. Hits 3 and can't remember what the lance was for, might have something to do with the difference in points from when I first set this up I dunno.) If I've done anything wrong please let me know.
>>94376178>No! I didn't say that>proceeds to repeat itlol
>>94376183Unitcrunch probably does not like having Sus1 + Sus2, it probably just ignores the Sus1. Just edit one to be Sus3.
>>94376179Did everyone stand up and clap afterwards
>>94376179You arent suppose to talk about that shit in public you autistic fuckNo one wants to hear about fickificki while they're playing the warhams
>>94376191Well look at that, it does make a difference and seems more in line. I know it's one captain and only one unit but if played correctly in an actual game this thing will just say "fuck you" to a big target lmao.
>>94376204I was talking to my friendAnd i paid for table time
>>94376181Haven't they been on 32s since the new boyz kit launched like 3-4 years ago. Why are you just considering rebasing them now
>>94376212If someone can walk past your table and be forced to hear your autistic opinion then it's not a good place for you to be sharing opinions on polarizing topics. It doesn't matter if you paid for a table or if you're talking to your friend
>>94376069Interesting write up and entirely true. Is this a downstream consequence of Marines being the most popular and played factions, where MEQ is the gold standard aim your units against? I think so, but that in of itself cannot be fixed since you can't control people's spending habits.
>>94376252I don't aim at MEQ statlines because thats not a common problem unit on the tabletop
>>94376220because my orks are from the mid 2000s and i got back into the hobby recently, as well as buying a tonne of orks on marketplace that are all on the small bases
>>94376049Chaos is dorky
>>94376212If you're talking loud enough for everyone in the store to hear, then you are no longer just talking to your friend.>i paid for table timeAnd all businesses retain the right to remove you from their place of business if they view you to be disruptive or otherwise undesirable.I get that you're autistic but you should be self-aware enough to not talk about rapefugees and other heavily divisive political shit when hobbying, ie. a thing people do for FUN to escape that shit, especially if you're in public.
>>94376211Following the convo I discovered that the enhancement that allows this is only 10 points, god damn.
>>94376174God I pity you having to play with faggots.
Tfw love ECTfw they have gay faggot colors
>>94376282You got ec confused with ultra marines bud
>>94376257Just buy bases from china, it's not that much work to clip bases off and is better for you to have large hordes of stuff on the correct base. It'd be different if it was just a single model or small unit, but have dozens and dozens of models based wrong is a recipe for feelsbad
>>94376282Okay
>>94376279I don't care about the erbsunmuster camo patterns on your fucking leman russ, just play the god damn game
>>94376317Oh. You ARE the faggot.
>>94374320>IG are mid metawiseI'm ok with this. Playable, but people will pretty much always enjoying playing against them.
>>94376331You're reading too much into winrates, IG when played by someone competent with a good list is an entirely different game than your average guard playing barely functioning retard
>>94376325>you're a faggot if you don't fellate me for my lazy attempts at being safe-edgyelection tourists really are thinskinned and desperate for approval aren't they
>>94374320
>>94376241>>94376267You couldnt hear me from the table overI paid 90 quid for 2 hours and no one else was in the room except some blokes that walked in to gander about
>>94376345I do win a lot more than I lose, it's true. Though when I play against a skilled pilot like a regular tourney player I do get stomped.
>>94376011Uh, yeah. They all have pretty distinct weapons.
What's your thoughts about the objective focus of the current game? I like most of it, because most battles are won by securing objectives, but can't help but to feel disheartened seeing people view certain units as "suicide chaff" just to score objectives.
>>94376325nah, I'll play with anyone as long as they don't smell like shit or are annoying as fuckI'm not playing 40k to be your friend, I'm being friendly, 90% of this general can't even read at a grade school level so why would I want to hear opinions on shit from people in this hobbyjust play the fucking game and don't be a cunt
>>94376354>90 quidUntil this I thought you were in burger land like me. What wild times we live in.
>>94376348>Racism>Safe edgy Lmao
>>94376363it's a good balance of priorities to keep the game from just being killswaps and corner castle gunlines. It rewards mobility if you pay to incorporate it, too. I like it.
>>94376354Clearly you were talking loud enough for someone to notice or you wouldn't have gotten kicked out. Also >90£ for two hours of playingYou got taken for a ride lmao
>>94376363It feels gamey. I don't like it.
>>94376354>You couldnt hear me from the table overclearly they could since somebody got you kicked outunless you just made this up hoping for people to clap for your oppression here, which sounds far more likely at this point
>>94376350this image needs to be changed to "complaints ABOUT Eldar" and the time scale modified to nanoseconds.7th edition buckbroke the entire community forever
>>94376363The only thing I wish for is more people making more sense out of the objectives themselves and having them be binary "You've achieved this or not" like a real battle instead of arbitrary points. I really hate the "jerking off on one objective the entire game" playstyle certain people employ for units.
>>94376390surely the attitudes of eldar players has NOTHING to do with why people hate them so much
>>94376373putting WWII german camo on your dudes is the epitome of being safe-edgyyou're not being overtly offensive and if somebody complains you can just say you like the look, it's the most common shield of low effort election tourist types
>>94376384You think a war game focusing on objectives instead of Halo Team Deathmatch is too gamey?
>>94376354>120 dollars to play for 2 hoursAt that point just play at home bruh what the fuckDo you need a gaming license too lmaoCome to deerborn brother, we'll let you play at the mosque community center for free
>>94376390I'm sorry you play the army that's been utterly broken for half of the games lifetime. Must be tough elffag
>>94376390>NOOO STOP MAKING FUN OF ME CHANGE THE IMAGE CHANGE IT CHANGE IT CHANGE ITthis is why nobody like eldarfags
>>94376354>90 quid for 2 hourswhat the actual fuck lmao
>>94376399I get it to a certain extent. Most objectives are pretty good and have a reason to have "points" but there are certain ones that are seemingly designed to just be points farms which is gamey as fuck and makes it hard to rationalize what they are doing in universe. Now, most of them avoid this problem but there are a few that suffer this issue.
>>9437639240k players treat Eldar the way dumb internet tankies do the CIA. they don't even need soulstones to hide from Slaanesh when they can just live rent free in your fucking head forever
>>94376399NTA but I think scoring points by standing in a circle is more game-y than just killing the enemy>>94376354>90 for 2 hoursSo none of this happened, thanks for making it obvious>>94376419Eldar persecution complex on full display
>>94376411>>94376410>>94376392See?Clock reset back to 0 for each of these posts.You will never be dawiYou will never have a book of grudgesYou will never live beneath the misty mountains You will never hold an arkenstone
>>94376399Yes.>I won the battle because I completed a completely random and arbitrary objective and then got immediately wiped out.
>>94376363The devs had a focus for tenth?
>>94376429people laughing at you aren't complaining about eldaralso>my only argument is clearly they must be dwarffagspathetic cope
>>94376398Good thing we have you to hunt down those evil camo pattern users.
>>94376354>I paid 90 quid for 2 hoursyou could have bought a twink for 2 hours to play 40k with you for half that money and he'd bring his own Blood Angels
>>94376429no one wants to be a manlet you gay little twerppeople are perfectly capable of pointing out a certain playstyle and faction attracts huge cunts, just the same way as we all know the IG attracts all the nazi fags
>>94376429>You will never be dawi>You will never have a book of grudges>You will never live beneath the misty mountains>You will never hold an arkenstoneWhat does literally any of this even mean
>>94376436laughing through their tears, clearly. show me on the doll where the invisible wraithknights molested you, anon
>>94376444this is just sad anon, at least make an effort next time
Went to the gamestore and wandered around looking at shelves in the hopes that someone would talk to me and I could make a friend but no one did so I left after 10 minutes or so.
>>94376430This.I know for some of them you can hand wave it with it being almost a suicide mission and they needed to really get this objective to win the bigger battle... but that type of handwaving is only applicable to certain armies with certain strategies and doesn't apply to every one.
>>94374555>not even a single thread later this post is already relevant again We get it, you hate elves because Tolkien made them ubermensch and wrote love poetry to his wife in Elvish
>>94376448If you honestly think there aren't more posts seething about Eldar than any supposed persecution complex idk what to tell you, one look at this thread can show you the butthurt elf hate is unending
>>94376458>>94376464you can keep crying all you want, it won't change the fact that you faggots play a historically broken faction while claiming it's actually super duper hard and complaining about how unfair it is nonstop
>>94376468You are, in fact, the one crying when you say shit like this.>you faggots play a historically broken faction This is literally a complaint. The clock has reset to "0 minutes since somebody complained about Eldar"
>>94376481>no YOU'RE the one who's cryinggod you people are embarrassingliteral toddler levels of competence on display by the thread's eldarfags today
Rolled 4, 6, 2, 1, 5, 2, 6, 1 = 27 (8d6)FUCK ANGRON (and discussion about Elves)ROLLING FOR BUFFS
>>94376316yellow is a gay colour too, lamenters anon
>>94376454I mean pretty much none of it actually makes sense other than>Oh theres some data you need to upload that for some reason doesn't appear before this turnThe rest of them make 0 sense.
>>94376391>I really hate the "jerking off on one objective the entire game" playstyle certain people employ for units.I mean if you're letting them do that, they should benefit from you conceding a whole area of the board.
>>94376468You're getting owned
>>94376496It's also funny when some of the generic objectives are pretty much shit only the imperium would do... sometimes.
>>94376363>but can't help but to feel disheartened seeing people view certain units as "suicide chaff" just to score objectives.You posted Guardsmen but also this takeWhat do you think the Imperium sees the Guard as? Why do you think they have slogans revolving around them dying in droves?
>>94376485Anon, you are literally complaining about Eldar. Saying they're "historically broken" and complaining that they "don't take any skill" are both bitching and moaning about the faction and its players.You are screaming into the void about how ruptured your asshole is by elf cock, and when people point out that's exactly what you're doing you say "HA, SEE, THE ELVES ARE THE REAL LOUD ONES!"I don't care if you whine about elves, but don't paint your pissing and moaning as anything but. I'm not defending Eldar, I'm pointing out YOU are actively complaining about them.
>>94376438Does it include... hospitalities?
>>94376503They are dying fighting on the frontlines against a threat, not giving up a turn to upload signal data.
What the FUCK is a quid
>>94376505>I have no real argument so I'll nitpick a portion of a sentence with zero context to make it look like you're the one complainingpatheticlast response from me
>>94376515It's a pound innit.
>>94376451>it's the responsibility of strangers to come up and talk to me while I silently pace around an lgsIf you want to meet people and make friends you need to try harder than just being in the room
>>94376517>make it look like you're the one complainingnobody has to "make" you look like you're complaining you stupid fucking faggot, you ARE complaining. Even this post is complaining about how people directly quoting you is "nitpicking" lol
>>94376523now type this without crying next time
>>94376481
>>94376515A dollar
>>94376495Damn thats crazy
>>94376510Them dying to get important communications sent off is EXACTLY what guardsmen would be doing
>>94376515Bout 20 shillings innit
>>94376517What he doesn't know is that you aren't complaining. You're just the same 50 year old retard who spends all day every day in this thread repeating the same things over and over. And you think that making people not want to bother interacting with you is a victory.
man i'm glad it's not my faction being bitched about now
>>94376546>eldarfag is also a schizowhat a shock!
>>94376546>everyone who says things I don't like is the same person
>GOD I FUCKING HATE ELVES SO MUCH I JUST WANNA RAPE THEIR STUPID LITTLE SMUG KNIFE EAR ASSHOLES>"Christ we get it bro stop complaining about elves">I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT ELVES, THE ELVES ARE THE ONES COMPLAINING THAT'S WHY I NEED TO CONSTANTLY POST HOW MUCH I HATE THEM GRRRRRRRRRR FUCK I HATE ELVES SO GODDAMN MUCHit's okay to admit you want to fuck the elves
https://vimeo.com/196937578>this fucking elfshit right now
>>94376562>eldartranny is an election tourist[feigned surprise]
>>94376558It's painfully obvious that at least 70% of the retarded shitposting in this thread comes from 1 person.
>>94376552/yourdudes/ are gayer than /mydudes/
>>94376570it's only obvious to you because you're the one making those posts
>>94376562>Elf fag is an election touristPottery
>>94376564>GET THESE FUCKING ELVES OUTTA MY FACE >okay sir, but why are you walking towards the eldar table?
>>94376578Deflection.
>>94376584>the eldartranny shrinks back when exposed
>>94376562>you would be concubines
>>94376546>>94376570The funny thing is (you) are infinitely more recognizable, because the actual eldarfags here, the ones who actually own models unlike (you) like the ones actually discussing their balance and reputation earlier in the thread, never cry about how there's some secret cabal that's trying to force elf hate as some conspiracy, whereas (you) are so inept you can't help but signal that it's you posting with these flagrant delusional accusations every single time
I think eldar are coolI think space marines are coolMK6 is my favoriteI think primaris only have like 3 cool units outside of the BT stuffI hate LoVI hate TauI kinda like DEldarI think grey knights are coolI think IG is cool, but their current selection is lame as hellI think techpriests and kastelans are cool, but otherwise HH mechanicum is leaps and bounds better.I think chaos is coolI think nids are coolI think custards shouldn't be a 40k armyGSC are mehI like orksdiagnose my mental illnesses
>>94376601If you weren't severaly autistic you might actually be capable of following social cues and recognizing people.
>>94376601>some secret cabal that's trying to force elf hateoy vey cool it with the antisemitism
>>94376608>i think eldar are coolYou could have stopped right theree
>>94376608>Forgetting NecronsExtremely ill
>>94376570That is a conclusion that only someone with diagnosed schizophrenia could ever come to
>>94376620ironic coming from a genuine schizophrenic
>>94376608>diagnose my mental illnessesAutism given your inability to understand that noone cares about your blogpost
>>94376608>likes eldar but dislikes deldar>likes MK6>likes grey knights>thinks HH mech are better than skitarii>dislikes tau and GSCthis is quite the distilled dogshit opinion
what are your realistic hopes for their codex?i collect night lords and picked up some plague marines as i wanted some old school csm flavour in my army. Their designs actually look so cool to me, that i consider starting a separate DG army. I love the idea of wearing enemies down with close range firepower, simply outlasting them with superior toughness.i dont care for meta rules but it seems that besides average of t5 death guard seems to have completely lost its flavour of enduring/ outsustaining their enemies?
>>94376628oh yeahI kinda like them>>94376639I said I think GSC are meh, no where anywhere near tau.
>>94376644All the flavor has been gone for ages. They lack their penache and uniqueness that really makes you think DG are these bloated monsters that can shrug off damage. Play 4th with the 3.5 codex instead
>>94376629Its something only someone who has browsed 4chan generals for a while would notice.
94376654VERY low effort bait
>>94376655whatever you say, schizo-kun~
>>94376644Theyre squishy units that debuff in 10th edition
>>94376570It used to be 2-3 virulent shitposters. I think one or two dropped off/sudoku'd but a couple of mild shitposters have filled their place.
>>94376654>Play 4th with the 3.5 codexYou need a jar of pic related asap
Never before in a /tg/ general have I seen someone berate others for playing older versions of their respective games yet I see it happen more than once in /40kg/, why's that?
>>94376644considering DG are in the exact same position IK is and they're also getting a new codex, there's nowhere to go but up from where you're atbut probably nothing will happen
>>94376674Probably Stockholm syndrome
>>94376674because it's not somebody actually playing the older version, it's the usual /v/ermin doomposting about how the game is dead and to just play a version nobody else plays
>>94376658You can really tell it's bait when he went and made another tangentially related post when he didn't get the answer he wants
>>94376674Generally the people telling you to play older editions haven't played any games whatsoever in multiple years
>>94376674the eldartranny is off his meds again
>>94376674Sunk cost. They're retards that think new thing always good and fight like zealots lest their entire consumer identity collapse
>>94376706me when I samefag
>>94376710Still me >>94376703Also me
What do you think would look better for my dark angels bases, a forested theme with small shrubs (thank god for dirt cheap plastic Christmas decorations I can cut up) or an industrial ship stuff making use of aluminum and brass chips and scrap from my welding shop work that doesn't give a shit if I take the odd thing here and there home
>trying to recover these second hand orks from the abuse they suffered from their previous owner>looks like they primed everything in both black and metallic paints, like 2 layers or a black metallic primer if it existsits so thick, fucking hell. dunno how many more washes of IPA these minis can take
>>94376724Scifi bases would contrast better. I think it'd be a bit too much green to do a heavily planted base for dangels
>>94376729stone ruins with light moss might be a great idea, too, combining the natural feel with contrast
>>94376728Use superclean
>>94376737dont think it exists in my country
>>94376724No one is fighting over a fucking forest. Also, deserts, grasslands and badlands for that matter too.They're fighting over strategic military installations or population hubs.
>>94376741What about LA's totally awesome? Doesn't fuck up resin either.
>>94376735I think you'd be better off doing something else. Maybe using rust to contrast the green armour. Using a similar tone I think would be too boring and take away from your armour
>>94376742bro, I have been watching two real life factions of the imperial guard fighting over empty fields for over 2 fucking years now
Just finished a game of Orks vs Dark Angels. Those gits are rather tough, I gotta say.Not really much to report on tonight, Kult of Speed got pretty stomped thanks to some really poor secondary draws and lack of killyness.
>>94376741>dont think it exists in my countrySounds like it's time to move then
>>94376685>No it's *insert childish delusions here*
>>94376742bud forgot about vietnam and korea and world war 2 and world war 1
>>94376763Had some decent shooting against a named character and Inner Circle Companions, but it took all these buggies and squighogs shooting and charging to actually kill the unit.
94376765yes yes I know you're desperate for more (you)s but you'll have to try harder little /v/iddie
>>94376742Have you not seen WW2 documentaries?
>>94376763You've got some of the worst luck ive ever seen when it comes to finding opponents with painted models bluorkanon
>>94376741Just use any degreaser.
>>94376735Stone ruins actually sound pretty neat too. Might go with that. I think you're right about the contrast>>94376742It's hardly impossible for an outpost, or any sort of engagement zone, to take place outside in natural places. 40k isn't made up entirely of brutalist architecture
>>94376742And where does most of that fighting over resources take place? Surely not the areas around the resource reducing the risk it could be damaged or destroyed in said fighting. Surely not
>>94376759>>94376766>>94376777>C2000 = C40000
>>94376773Unfortunately I learned just how good their ravenwing bikes really are. Boss Speedwagon here didn't do anything against these guys, despite living for quite a while against them.Speedwagon and his mob did kill some other special marines that I don't know the name of. My koptas whiffed hard on their shooting all game though
>>94376742>No one is fighting over a fucking forest
>>94376786>goalposts = shifted
>>94376791>hurr durr, he couldn't possibly be talking about the 41st millennium in a 40k thread
How the fuck does a 4chan general have consoomer drones.
>>94376796guess what retard, there's infinitely more forested and jungled and plains'd planets that are constantly being fought over in 40k than the amount of conflicts in human history
>>94376786
>>94376786Factions fight over forests and empty ground in 40k so you're still fucking wrong.
>>94376780Yep, not many painted armies at my LGS. Makes it all the sweeter when I fight against one though.>>94376788One interesting thing was my squigbuggy miraculously living against the lion in melee. He's certainly no joke, though. That git can take some dakka.Over on the enemy's home objective my scrapjet missing its shooting on 2 separate occasions against some heavy intercessors. By this point in the game he'd basically taken me off of every objective so I was getting barely any primary, too.
>>94376805>derp our short history on earth VS an entire galaxy for tens of thousands of yearsFuck all you salty retards because you have grassy bases
>>94376802the same site has /vp/, /vt/, fuckin' /mlp/ and /vmg/there are entire boards devoted to being a consoooooomer drone
>>94376814the Lion's first battle after his return was literally in a forest bro....
>>94376812>Yep, not many painted armies at my LGSMy condolences, your lgs doesn't deserve your patronage
>>94376763I've found they die to plasma rifles pretty good. My game against them he dropped the giant fuck-you terminator blob right in the middle of the board...took 2 turns, but they went down.
>>94376824And look at the majority of 40k artwork. It's 95% rubble.Natural landscapes are about as reasonable as felinids.
>>94376816Only valid one there is vmg.
>>94376814Have you never heard of agri worlds anon?
>>94376827I dunno ask /hhg/
My dudes are fighting over a turf farm world.
>>94376814>>94376827you're so desperately grasping for any straws you can lmaokeep seething because you immediately got BTFO
>>94376827>most car manufacturers feature silver/black/white vehicles in their ads>this means yellow/red/green/blue cars don't exist
>>94376837You retards are the ones who've been BTFO. Lemme guess custodes fighting over a field is "flavourful".
>>94376837You're the same retard who was complaining about eldar aren't you.
>>94376812Not much to say after that. I couldn't score much primary and was getting awful secondary draws, so we ended the game 44-73 in the DA's favor.>>94376825Oh no the LGS is great. Ran by my favorite teacher from when I was in school and a close family friend. But that doesn't say anything about the players.They're really nice people but as you can see not a lot of them have time to paint.>>94376826They could probably die much easier to someone that could roll dice well. Blue betrayed me today, I think I spent a CP on Dakkastorm (sustained hits 2) 3 times during this game and got 0 6s on the unit I used it on.
>>94376846>I'm not owned YOU'RE ownedwow good one lil guy94376847I know you're desperate for attention but away with you shitposter
>>94376847Meant the other guy
>>94376853>>94376837Lush forests are le grimdark?Refer >>94376827
It's totally not 1 guy every time.
>>94376856>goalposts shifted againlollast response from me, you're too desperate for the interaction
>>94376836Same
>>94376860I'm trying to drill it into your skull in many ways, but are just too salty over your grassy bases to see it.
>>94376862Based and goblin greenpilled
is that a fucking JUNGLE?AIIIIIEEEEE SAVE ME JIMMY SPACE SAVE ME
>>94376883THAT'S NOT CANON IT'S NOT GRIMDARK NOOOOO
>>94376883Cherrypicked but it makes actual sense for them.
>>94376883NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST HAVE LEAVES OR PLANTLIFE IN YOUR ART AAAAIIIIIIEEEE IM GOING INSAAAAAANE
>>94376863crazy how most of the major narrative battles of 40k are in blasted wastelands like krieg and armageddon and not city streets huh?>>94376891>cherrypicked>one of the defining units of the IG
>>94376827the Leviathan box, cinematic trailer, and Battle for Oghram were all set in a lush jungle world to the point Infernus marines were released as brand new Vietnam flamethrower marines.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X98ImCbhjnI
>>94376891
>>94376899You're right, no official games workshop work would EVER have space marines in a jungle. That would be ludicrous
>>94376883>>94376887>>94376895samefag harder>>94376901more cherrypickingWhy are you seethers so adamant about defending your tenuous position? 40k is grimdark urban rubble fighting. Simple as.
>>94376908you're replying to the wrong guy
>>94376908I'm on your side retard, the same faggot claiming jungles and forest bases are unrealistic also said plains and blasted lands are unrealistic and all fights only happen in civil centers>>94376912crazy how they had to release a side game specifically for urban fighting thenbut of course you don't know about that because you know nothing about the actual tabletop little /v/ermin
>>94376914>release a side game specifically for urban fightingDoesn't negate my points.
stop replying to him
It feels like the red clashes with the rest of the model....
>>94376912I don't think you're actually aware of what samefagging means or how post timing plays into it
>>94376925it works well, contrast is good
Look, you're all going to have to cope and be happy performing extreme mental gymnastics about how your futuristic ultra warriors are fighting for a patch of shrub.That's all I'll say.
>>94376856>Lush forests are le grimdark?The fucking Vietnam War and Heart of Darkness are major "war is hell" grimdark inspirations, yes, especially given this game was originally conceived of in the 1980s when they were even more relevant.There's an entire Primarch named after the latter (Konrad Kurze, Conrad Kurtz...)grimdark doesn't inherently mean whatever balkan concrete post-soviet commieblock shithole you live in
>>94376938stop replying to him, look at the post immediately above youhe's just desperate for attention
>>94376925Either add the red elsewhere(eyes, cables, chest details or swap it for a colour you like. It's not up to us to pick a paintscheme that you like
>>94376883>grass mat>some green felt to mark area terrain>aquarium plants>styrofoam balls and toothpicks>styrofoam sheets turned into hillsIt's crazy how easily and cheaply you can make a board without having to pay up the wazoo.
>>94376937an agri-world is one of the best examples of a place where 40k-style land battles make sense since you can't just blast everything from orbit without ruining its value
>>94376925What sort of red did you use?Id also definitely add it over his eyes and like anon said some of the cables.
>>94376953also the most infamous 40k campaign setting of Armageddon, most of the fighting was over empty desert fields because if the fighting happened inside the hives, that meant shit was going sideways
>>94376957Khorne redI added some blue to it and now I'm pretty happy
>>94377019I still think it looks strange not being applied in more areas across the model and don't really like the added blue either, I think you lost a lot of the brightness the red was using to sell the glow effect. But they are your models and if you're happy with them that's all that matters.
>>94376949I don't really think any aquarium plants do a good job at appearing as though they are real. I agree everywhere else though
>>94377069yeah the best flora is O-scale model train stuff. easy to find but not exactly cheap.
>>94377092>best flora is O-scale model train stuffWould unironically be cheaper to buy real living plants than do an entire forest/meadow table with oscale shit
>>94377019Add white ink then a bright red onto the deepest parts, itll bring out the blueIf you squint youll see the current red is as dark as the silver
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
Does 40k have malls and stores and stuff? Like on the hive worlds?In all the games ive played and on all the officual terrain its this weird church + post apocalytic industrial aesthetic and i wonder if the rest of the universe is different
If i destroy 5 models in a turn, do i get 5 zombies back?
>>94377205In 40k, it's not a question of if it happens it's how often it happens. Probably not common in the slightest. For most planets goods are probably provided by a lord or scavenged from copper wire. I could be wrong.
>>94377205darktide has a couple levels that are in a street market in the lower levels of a hive citythat's probably the most common equivalent to what you're asking for
>>94377205Generally it'd be more medieval.Think marketplaces rather than department stores.Darktide and rogue trader both show stuff like that.
>>94376748Can get that through Amazon, is it better than IPA and simple green?>>94376783If it's better than simple green and IPA I'll happy to give it a try>>94376764Every country around me is far worse and I'm not interested in uprooting my life to travel to the other side of the world for some cleaning agent, anon
>>94376848Given that you've tried every detachment so far for orks, what is your favourite?
Trench Crusade has really opened my eyes to demonic terms 40k avoids using despite being based on the same catholic myth basis. There are no Devils or arch-devils in the Warp in 40k. The closest to thing that fits the term would be Vashtorr as a chaos demi-god (a term thats itself isn't clear). Or maybe greater deamon and daemon princes. What do you anons think. Also desecrated saints is such a cool concept that would also fit into 40k, elite chaos kill teams hunting down IG,SoB or astartes leaders would be cool. Sainthood shoud be extended beyond SoBs as well
>>94377205Rogue Trader game has stuff like thatA few of the GW animations have pretty normal cityscapesA few of the novels describe pretty mundane jobs, like taxi drivers, musicians, servers at cafesThere are uncountable worlds that could be described as "basically the real world" with all the benefits and negatives that is. They just aren't the centerpiece of stories, games, and other detail because 40k is made up for content about war, intrigue, and exploration and a cozy mundane life isn't interesting enough for anything more than a throw away sentence or two. If you can imagine it potentially existing in the setting, it probably does exist because the galaxy is big
why use all these weird cleaning products to strip paint use use IPA and it strips in 30 minutes
>>94377315>desecrated saintsehhh... I feel that is counter to the very idea of a saint. But I guess it would be grimdark, and could make for interesting daemon princes>Sainthood shoud be extended beyond SoBs as wellabsolutely
>>94377226Pls help
>>94376748This shit is the best paint stripper by far but only one store sells it in my entire country. So I usually just use engine degreaser.
>>94377335>ask genie for wish>"I want to be a named 40k character">Wake up as the governer of space new delhi
>>94377382Truly Nurgle smiled upon you
>>94377192I added magenta and I'm pretty happy with the result. The blue makes for a great contrast against the magenta.
>>94377416
>>94377360desecrated saints are more like chaos dreadnaughts or daemon engines, they're engines of war as opposed to demons. Defiling the bones of dead saints or imprisoning living ones would suit chaos fine imo
>>94377425Looking very good
>>94377416Don't think it works the way you're using it but if you like it then that's cool
>>94377382There's gotta be a chapter of marines constantly spawn camping the nurglings, right?
>>94377425I added nuln oil.
>>94377504pink > green
>>94377504Nice
>>94377504It's like the commissar always says; "every guardsman is pink on the inside."
>>94377069Even GW uses them. But ok, so we just have a board with grass, some hills, patches of green felt, and some green styrofoam balls with red toothpicks (which look more real than aquarium plants).
>>94377510>>94377529I meant to reply to you.
>>94377315>Sainthood should be extended beyond SoBs as wellTechnically it is I think? Just never had a model. I believe there are dude saints and whatnot.Build-a-saint as a unit option has been on my wishlist for a very long time. At least you can walk the path to sainthood with the 10th crusade rules.
>>943775360WN3D
Is Mortarion a hero?
>>94377609no he's one of the most pathetic primarchs
>>94377315>Sainthood shoud be extended beyond SoBs as wellI mean, depending on what your definition of Sainthood is, it kind of is. There are loyalist warp entities, but they have a tendency to not stick around longer than a few hours. Then they just disappear as quickly as they arrived.
>>94377347Not the shit I've got anon, you have to remember that most second hand models have the thickest coats on them, and they are orks so most ork players don't care about the painting side
>>94373380Looks rad
>>94377609No. Think about the lamest motherfucker in media, either diary of a wimpy kid or shinji ikari, or some NTR protagMotarion is worse
>>94377649anybody who thinks shinji is lame got filtered hard
>>94377609>Got mugged by Draigo and some GKs>Then got beaten up by guilliman and put into the tine out zone by NurgleKWAB
>>94377609He's not even a hero in his own mind.
>>94377672Didnt draigo brand his name on mortarion lmao
>>94377309For flavor? Gotta be green tide. The fluffiest way to play Orks, in my opinion. Outnumbering your foes 10 to 1 is just great, and makes for wonderful pictures of an actual horde of Orks.For fun? Dread Mob. Basically gambling with your units to get decent shooting at the cost of hurting yourself is wonderfully orky and when you swing those rolls and blow everything up it's just a great time.You really can't go wrong with any of them. The only one I haven't played is da big hunt because I don't care for snaggas as the main schtick to my Orks. So glad we got a codex written by someone who likes the army. I feel bad for my admech, who've been collecting dust and will probably continue to do so for a long time.
>>94377609Bigger self loathing bitch than Perty. When are they going to give us Lorgar back
>>94377696too busy crying in his tower while a furry yells at him
>>94377696Are there any demon primarchs that ARENT a loser?
>>94377700Are crows flurries? I don't understand anything anymore. Where is Erebus
>>94377708Alpharius, seeing as he's duped everyone into thinking he's Guilliman
>>94377695>So glad we got a codex written by someone who likes the armyWould you say that orks just need adjustments to unit costs to make their lists better, as opposed to Amech which is actually badly designed, and basically worse, more expensive Guard?
Are Glad Reapers actually any good
>>94377766I feel that with Orks most of your detachments aren't the problem, it's your units. There are some cases where cost is the problem, like deff dreads and the nauts, and some cases where the datasheets are the problem, like the buggies. I will say that it seems to be the datasheets more than the points.I don't think we'll see a lot of changes going forward but I'd certainly like to see some change for Kult of Speed to help their units a bit more than advance/fall back + shoot.Admech, however, is beyond fucked. Their codex, detachments, and datasheets all just don't work and when they sometimes can work, it requires so much more headaches to get there than it would for another faction.Admech:>Want +1 to wound? Select this objective marker in the command phase, and then shoot a unit that's standing on it AFTER you disembark from a transport (meaning you can only do it on your shitty infantry)>2cp btw lmao get fuckedOrks:>Hey bro we heard your volume fire is dogshit in Kult.of Speed so here's a 1cp strat for lethal hits>Oh and by the way, if you use it within 9" of your target you can have those lethal hits on 5+, too. Go ahead and skip that entire wound roll, buddy.
>>94377800Whats the worst command point spender the game has ever seen
>>94377813Me. I'm burning through those command points like multiple corporations in the Amazon rainforest
Does this mean with every gun? If someome tries to move-shoot-move a Redemptor and it goes below half, I get to mag dump all my weapons?
>>94377800Man I wish Admech weren't just bad Guard because they're easily the coolest faction in 40k imo
>>94377813I've never seen anyone use go to ground in all my time playing 10th
>>94377461why doesn't it work?
>blue is the hardest color to paint>no actually its red>no actually its yellow>no actually its white>no actually its black>no actually its pink Yknow what I've never heard anyone say is hard?Fucking green.Why is that I wonder?
>>94377800>Want +1 to wound? Select this objective marker in the command phase, and then shoot a unit that's standing on it AFTER you disembark from a transport (meaning you can only do it on your shitty infantry)>2cp btw lmao get fuckedI can't even imagine having strats that bad.My codex supplement doesn't even have a 2cp strat.My preferred detachment's strats are all good except one which is just okay.
>>94377849I only paint green in very small amounts, personally. I'm always working with red, black, and white and of the three white is the hardest to get to be satisfactory.
>>94377858Skill issue
>>94377869Maybe a bit, but for me it always has a weird, blotchy consistency and is trying to separate out in the pot. I'm always having to stir my white paints.
>>94377878you're not using citadel white, right?
alright, I did some autismif a primaris marine model is supposed to represent 8ft in height, a to scale Imperial Frigate would be 95 feet in lengthdunno who needs this information, but you're welcome
>>94377315>There are no Devils or arch-devils in the Warp in 40k.>Also desecrated saints is such a cool concept that would also fit into 40k>Sainthood shoud be extended beyond SoBs as wellSM2 and its consequences have been a disaster for /40kg/.
What to buy with the Dark Angels battleforce? i already have dildos and a boyfriend so i don’t need those
>>94377905>How dare you find inspiration in other works you think would be cool in 40k>clearly anyone who posts this is a secondary
>>94377904Nobody needs it because miniatures are not and never were scaled properly between each other for several reasons. One of them being weapon interchangeability between imperial miniatures, so that you could make guard sergeants using marine bolter bits, or chainswords and power swords for officers.
>>94377922we don't play with manlet marines anymore, silly billy
>>94377921You know nothing of the fluff (Macharius, an extremely prominent figure, being a Living Saint completely unrelated to SoB, for example) yet you make confident sweeping statements on it.Read a fucking book before opening your mouth again.
I've got a lore question:>for one reason or another an Imperial Fists veteran develops a faith in the divinity of the Emperor, maybe he witnessed actual miracles he couldn't explain away as psyker shenanigans or he just saw too much shit while fighting chaos>not only that but what's worse he keeps it a secret instead of going straight to the Chaplain for a dose of Imperial Truth>eventually it comes out because he starts loudly praying while fighting a daemon or because his little shrine is discoveredWhat's his fate? A century in a full body painglove? Exile as a blackshield? Being quietly pawned off to Black Templars?
>>94377913A space marine armyThe DA battleforce has all the DA centric units you need.
>>94377695What army list did you run here? I'm assuming the snaggas are for your anti vehicle
>>94377205>Does 40k have malls and stores and stuff? Like on the hive worlds?There are imperial worlds that are basically just cyberpunk with gothic undertones. You bet there's malls and shit. Hive worlds and hive cities probably follow a more strict resource distribution system, though. But maybe not. >In all the games ive played and on all the officual terrain its this weird churchTerrain is pretty damn limited in general.
>>94377205Imagine a mall in cyberpink 2077 but every water fountain is a statue of the emperor and everything is vaguely gothic
Working on my first elite after finishing my warriors and scarabs. It's starting to go a lot faster and smoother now that I have my methods figured out and trimmed down on the redundant things I have been doing up to now. Got this guy done in a couple hours (drying time included) after basecoating him and I'm pretty happy with it. I have the technical paint on the base drying now, figured I'd leave that on overnight. Tomorrow, I'll finish the base and move on to the next items, Skorpekh Destroyers...
>>94377936>Read a fucking book before opening your mouth again.Hard disagree on this. BL books are awful.
>>94378011Looks solid, good job.
>>94378032A codex is a book.
>>94378041Fair enough.
>>94377984so just another 1000 points of space marines? should i focus on tanks and shit?
>>94377936Yeah Macharius is like the only example of a saint outside of SOB shit. Ollanius Pius went from being a saint for the guard into some bastardisation of his story as a perpetual, personal friend and general of the Emperor in the brozne age and the last catholic. I know about the fluff the sweeping statements are made knowing theres lone examples but not real focus on them despite the fact they should be way more present in the setting. Same situation as chaos xenos and dark mech.
>>94378056>Yeah Macharius is like the only example of a saint outside of SOB shit. You continue to show just how little you know and, more importantly, understand about 40k.
>>94378056Saint Drusus? Saint Gerstahl? The Sanguinor?
>>94378011I'm having the biggest trouble in the world managing the glow on those little dots in the necron weapons.
>>94378056Mouthbreathing imbecile.https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Imperial_Saints
>>94378080>wiki>source
>>94378067Dunno why you're on such a high horse like you're some scholar of 40k fluff. I'll reword my original statement so you can feel less upset.>40k should have more focus on saints outside of SoB, more examples than Macharius and more exploration of saints as revered dead heros of the Imperium as being seperate from Emperor daemons/warp entities living saints.The more famous guard regiements should have a saint from their ranks for example. Hell some famous astarte chapter masters from the past would be reverred as saints if they died saving some hive world
>>94378077I use Vallejo fluo paints for those. Paint the glow in greyscale, then wash with the fluo of your choice.
>>94378077Circles anon, circles.
>>94378083>he continues to not know
>>94373380
>>94378101But Jack you are Chaos
>>94378085Pathetic goalpost shifting.
>>94378077Me too, but what I found works best is really simple. Just fill those orb slots with thin, pure white paint, 3-4 thin coats, and then fill them with 1 layer of Tesseract Glow. The viscosity of the thin paints should do all the work for you, and then once that's done, drybrush some lime green around then to simulate glowing if you're bad at edge highlighting like me. That's what I've found to be the easiest and most consistent way to do it.
>>94378107>autistic anons ree about misinterpretated ideas>rexplain point to ease the seetheing>get accused of goalpost shiftingI can't win. Chaos should seek out and kill Imperial saints before they reach sainthood, since the warp changes the flow of time so they might know of a saint before the Imperials do. That's all. Or you know abduct their bones for dark rituals
>>94378085>gets called out for being a lorelet>panics and pretends he meant something different in his original postYou know you can just stop replying to a conversation on an anonymous imageboard and nobody will know it was you, right? The longer you try to salvage a lost point the more people will go back the reply chain and find out you're retarded.
>>94378091It's hard. It's too small. And the hardest part is making the outer edges look good.>>94378117>drybrush some lime green around then to simulate glowing if you're bad at edge highlighting like meDoesnt that fuck with the black? I tried doing something like that via edge highlight and it looked awful.
This could be a retarded question. But on the idea of '2 death hours'. Do we know for a fact that Imperium has the some measurement of time as we do? Obviously planets have more or less than 24 hours in a day and different time for days or night but are hours the same in 40k as they are for us? Are seconds? Am I delving too deep for niche bullshit
>>94378135Yeah, but it's having light cast on it so it's not supposed to be pure black. Drybrushing with a tiny brush is the cheat code here, I use this.
>>94378135>Doesnt that fuck with the black? I tried doing something like that via edge highlight and it looked awful.The glow effect needs to have a smooth gradient to read properly. Careful drybrushing can work, as well as layering highlights.
>>94378155Terran hours
>>94378155We have no way of knowing for certain. Considering there are two civilization -ending catastrophes between us and the universe of 40k there are zero guarantees that the foundational measures of time were preserved. 40k seconds may be in fact longer or shorter than ours, but we simply don't know.
>>94378169Yes but has Terra retained the same time measurements as we have today? A lot can change. Hell Earths rotation around the sun could have been changed during the DAoT. I get its implied to be the same but it could be different
>cold weather coming in>Gotta learn how to airbrush prime and varnishHold me /40kg/ I'm a retard and I kept clogging my airbrush when I first used it.
>>94378190>Hold me /40kg/ I'm a retard and I kept clogging my airbrush when I first used it.More pressure. Your brush might like going up as high as 30-35psi.
>>94377536Whether or not gw uses them is irrelevant given they still don't look like real plants. IRL they are insanely glossy, have very obvious mouldlines, and extremely obvious mounting. There are no plastic aquarium plants that pass as live plantsT. Sold those exact plastic plants to lazy aquarium customers for over a decade
>>94378190Reject airbrush modernity, embrace layering tradition.
>>94378199brush on primer is even more worthless than airbrush primer
>>94378056>>94378071The entire Legion of the Damned, too.
>>94377845Blue and red both need to be brighter/more saturated than they currently are imo
>>94378194I'll do some more research on this.>>94378199I don't want to brush prime/brush varnish whole mini vehicles.
>>94378071>>94378208Titus as of the end of SM2 as well
>>94377913Sounds like you could use some lube
>>94378196
>>94378219I'm sorry you haven't gone outside enough to recognize the difference between real and fake flora. Be careful you don't eat any apples from the display fruit bowls in ikea
>>94378196>Whether or not gw uses them is irrelevant given they still don't look like real plants. IRL they are insanely glossy, have very obvious mouldlines, and extremely obvious mounting. There are no plastic aquarium plants that pass as live plantsAnon, how much do you *really* care about the terrain you play 40k on? Fake aquarium plants are a great, affordable way to add some alien flora to an otherwise desolate board.>It's too shiny! It has moldlines!Nigger we're not making a Diorama. We're not train autists.
>>94378196>Whether or not gw uses them is irrelevant given they still don't look like real plants. IRL they are insanely glossy, have very obvious mouldlines, and extremely obvious mounting. There are no plastic aquarium plants that pass as live plantsI don't care
>>94378234>"I'd love to play on your toy soldier jungle board, but some of these plants do not look real enough for me, so I just can't play"For all of your retarded bitching, you have not presented a single alternative, so your opinion bring no value to the conversation. I'm sorry the plastic plants touched you and I hope they find a cure to whatever is wrong with you.
Ok, been looking for a bit, where do I start looking to find the arks of omen books. I just want to read them
>>94377940What's the status on chaplains' belief in the emperor's divinity?
>>94378267It depends on the chapter. Most first founding chapters believe the Imperial Truth and do not refer to the Emperor as divine.The Black Templars and Sons of the Phoenix do.
>>94378283>Sons of the PhoenixDo they have traitor geneseed or are the colors and name just a coincidence?
>>94378306coincidence, same as the covenant of fire having the word bearer's emblem and being super religiousthe only sorta-confirmed loyalists with traitor stock are the minotaurs (creator said they're IW) and carcharodons (chimera of raven guard and world eaters and allegedly night lords) but none of this is in-setting established
>>94378314What was the status on the blood ravens?
>>94378267It's an Imperial Fists Chaplain, so he's all about the Imperial Truth.
>>94378306100% coincidence. Trust me, bro..t Belisarious Cawl
>>94378314>the only sorta-confirmed loyalists with traitor stock are the minotaurs (creator said they're IW) and carcharodons (chimera of raven guard and world eaters and allegedly night lords) but none of this is in-setting establishedAren't Blood Ravens probably from traitor stock?
>>94378325A short story in a white dwarf shortly after the primaris release all but confirmed their TS roots. Some proportion of BR initiates are revealed to suffer from an affliction extremely similar to the Flesh Change.
>>94378335100% conjecture by fans.
>We're not train autists.maybe we should be more like them tho
>>94378325>>94378335still nothing confirmed but a lot of signs hinting at it
Drilling barrels is stupid I hate it
>>94378382that's fine but don't expect applause for leaving your models uglier than they could be
>>94378382Okay, but your models will look retarded and people will think you're lazy if you don't
>>94378382Only because you failed once and CBF/too stupid working out how to do it correctly.
>>94378382Skill issue.
Man is there any other scheme for worldeaters other than red/bronze or white/blue?I dont really want to paint another set of red models for 10 years. I wanna try something more interesting but not sure what.
>>94378420red/green and white/red:)
>>94378420>I wanna try something more interesting but not sure what.Then do so? Who's stopping you?
>>94378420the lifeslayers wear rust and rest armorthe riven wear black and goldthat's about it for canon schemes
>>94378459Why does he have rabbit teeth
>>94378420Do a splinter warband?Or you know, any other warband can be khorne bezerkers. They don't have to be from the world eaters.
>>94378469british company
>>94378420Maybe a nice orange with a splash of teal
>>94378478no he can't that's my joke berzerker warband comprising of the old first company of my donut steel marines' scheme :^)
>>94378488It's not your berzerker scheme until you've painted and posted a mini in that scheme, and then if his turn out nicer/more memorable than yours then the scheme becomes his
>>94378469He's doing his best Chogorian impression.
>>94378453Thats the point of the post anon, Im asking for other sort of chapters (chaos doesnt have chapters idk what its called) that world eaters have. >>94378459 Like thisLooks pretty interesting. I think a splash of black somewhere would be nice.
>>94378503I don't know what that means I'm not on the spectrum.
>>94378522Space Marine: ChapterEldar: CraftworldAdmech: ForgeworldIG: RegimentChaos: WarbandOrks: WarbandDEldar: KabalTyranid: Hive fleetNecron: Dynasty
>>94378541Then what are you doing in an autist thread?
>>94378550thanks bossman
>>94378503FUKING CHOGORIANS RAIDING MY SHITTY PLANET
woke up from a nightmare where my brother bought me ghazghkull but i had to act excited because i knew how expensive the model is while dreading assembling and painting it
>>94378599But ghaz isn't difficult to build or paint? Head, arms and backpack just slot into place, extremely easy to paint separately.
hellblasters or more tanks?
>>94378651Tank edition.
>>943786512000pts of dreadnoughts
>>94378599>my brother bought me ghazghkullTime to suck his dick
Should I post a new proper thread or are we moving to the shit thread retard-kun made in the catalog hours ago? I don't know what the jannies would prefer since they haven't deleted it.
>>94378651>>943786582000 points of dreadnoughts
>>94378682New thread pls
New real thread:>>94378734>>94378734>>94378734
>>94378616i don't even play orks, i play death guard and i'm currently doing a blight hauler
>>94376354>90£ for a tableYou don't lack just self awareness, you lack intelligence.
>>94378182Nothing indicates it has changed materially. But Imperial timekeeping is all kinds of fucked up thanks to technological constraints, warp shenanigans and probably some relativistic effects as well, so just go with whatever you feel is reasonable and it has about the same chances at being right. An ecumenopolis would probably slow down rotation somewhat.
