Angel Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-26-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-scheduleMetagame Mentor: The Scariest Standard Strategies in Duskmourn:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-scariest-standard-strategies-in-duskmourn>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>Previously:>>94388760 >TQFave creature with Flying?
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Name as many standard combo decks as you can
Random lore question: way back in Invasion and I think Mercadian Masks, there was this dude who was in love with his family's guardian angel or something, and Yawgmouth got him to turn by letting him be with her (she'd been corrupted or something?).Can someone tell me the name of the dude I'm talking about. I think Time Spiral did a version of him where he stayed good.
Does monogreen have decent fliers?>>94392879misread that as archangel of tittes
>>94392904That would be Crovax who killed the angel Selenia when Volrath corrupted herhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=crovax
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>>94391730That deck is not legal. He can't shuffle it while holding it all in his hands.>>94392439>Morality has nothing to do with aesthetics you retardlollmaoBeautiful=good, ugly=bad. Simple as.>No one thinks that "divinity" means "nature"lollmaoYou shouldn't talk about things you don't know.>>94392439Objective means measurable. Art quality is easily measurable with the criteria I mentioned before, see for example use of technique.Cope, seethe and dilate.
>>94392942I love Oscar Wilde, he was the OG flamboyant faggot and also one of the most based human beings to ever live, but his ideology was fundamentally self-indulgent and fundamentally useless. He was the first to admit it, he was cool like that.
>>94391730Im going to need sauce on that playmat.
>>94392966What's the point?
>>94392870>TQBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
>>94392990Bees in my hairhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rLtR-sSn6k
>>94392990That's a hornet
>>94392914It's had a few in dnd sets and back in khans but other than that not a ton.There's also hornet queen of course.
>>94392990COLOR PIE VIOLATION DETECTED REEEEE
>play a game of timeless aka legacy>opponent cheats omniscience into play on turn 3 and wins the game before I untap>play a game of standard>opponent cheats omniscience into play on turn 3 and wins the game before I untapright
>>94393024What was the standard deck, rescue beastie?
>>94393032squirming emergence
>>94393055OK I can understand how they'd dump everything on the graveyard turn 3 on timeless, probably dredge cards. But I'm not aware of anything that'd let you cheat THAT many mills on standard, what was it? Turn 1 seed of hope (3 cards), turn 2 another mill card (for around 5 cards total). How in the fuck did they get the last cards in the graveyard for squirming emergence?
>>94393065And that's assuming every single card dumped with those mill outlets is a permanent. I don't think it's possible to cheat it out with Squirming Emergence.
>>94393065don't even need to cast anything on turn 1just turn 2 founding the third path -> any mill 4 spell (picklock prankster, cache grab, etc) -> turn 3 squirming emergence on invasion of tolvada creature based squirming emergence does the same thing with rakdos joins up, it doesn't need to hit 8 permanents to reanimate an etali / gishath / etc
>>94393075Oh, that makes sense, thanks anon.
>>94393086Its just one of multiple ways to cheat it out on turn 3enigma jewel + collector's vault can cheat it out from a dozen different 4-5 mana spells
>>94393097Omniscience in standard sounds funny as fuck.What's the best build?
>>94393126You can try to hold off aggro with cut down + liliana + bitter triumph if you want but imo you should just race to turn 3/4 kill and pray they can't remove artifactsenough redundancy you can go off turn 4 majority of games and you can mill out a 250 card pile with the infinite loop
>>94392990BEEEEEEEEEEEEES
>>94393126>>94393133Just cast it on turn 4 like normal
I miss DuskmournFoundations is boring
>>94393146without triomes its easier to just reach 10 mana lmao
>>94393156Good Lore is better than No Lore, but No Lore is a thousand times better than Bad Lore. I will take a literal core set over things like Outlaws and Duskmourn every time.
>>94393168Who gives a shit about lore? This set is fucking BORING.
>>94393174Being boring is better than being retarded and wasting the premise
>>94393186Duskmourn was a fun set to play
>>94393133Is there a way you could condense the get out + 2x dowser infinite loop into a single copy of invasion of arcavios?assuming you get omniscience out you should be able to hit any of atraxa, beseech the mirror, reenact the crime to get arcavios out of the library/graveyardthen you simply need a way to make multiple copies of arcavios so you can tutor out a recursion packagedoppelgang doesn't work since its an X spell so you can't omni it for multiple copies so what would workcan't necessarily return invasion of arcavios to hand to set up a bounce loop since it will be a token if you used reenact the crime, and you don't have any other way to get it out of the graveyard if you mill itHelp me solve this puzzle, I think there's a wayI mean if there was a 2nd wish effect in standard you could just use arcavios to wish for a wish, then use that to get another arcavios, and bounce that to set up a loop.
>>94393174>Who gives a shit about lore?this is 100% of the reason that UB exists by the waynot to mention that foundations has much better "lore" than duskmorn
>>94393133have you tried building the Picklock Prankster/Founding the Third Path/Squirming Emergence version?or is there any way to combine the two?Pillage the Bog might be good in a BUG build as well.
>>94393230Very different and mutually exclusive plans. Reenact + beseech needs bargain fodder, heavy UB mana and lots of instant/sorceries (reenact, beseech, breach) that won't count towards squirmingSquirming is best if your deck has lots of redundancy in reanimate targets and the founding + 2 mana mill spell package to fuel itBeseech/reenact can go off with no setup beyond a single loot artifact on turn 2 or 3
>>94392885bloodthirsty conquerer + enduring tenacity bloodletter of aclazotz + unstoppable slasher I think these are the only 2-card ones
>>94393318There's also Innkeeper's Talent + Vraska/Lili.
>>94392885that enduring tenacity/otter storm deck is the only kind of viable one, right?
>>94392879>blacked
>>94393323Don't forget Caretaker's Talent + Half the cards in the game
>>94393141you are thinking of hornet nest
>>94393351not in my deck where i proxied all the black angels with different art
>>94392885vesuvan duplimancy + trailblazersmuggler's surprise/thunder debut calamity + anythingcursed recording + beseech -> stormsplitter/reenactaftermath analyst -> worldsoul's ragetrumpeting carnosaur -> molten duplicationgreed's gambit / pact -> shifting grift / harmless offering / falcondoomsday excruciator + jace/reef/talentuh the deck that is literally just tamiyos, squirming emergence, lumra and ping lands and nothing else
>>94393363I totally was. I got the queen mixed up with her house.
How viable is Boros Burn in standard right now? I need an excuse to play Boros Charm.
>>94393382soul cauldron + anything that makes infinite manaseason of gathering + kami/cradle cutter + pump/untap effects all will be one + ob nixilisrakdos joins up + abuelo's awakening + metamorph
>>94393386https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGRRKx3ZGeAlooks good to me, get the list here
>>94393457>open link>Hidetsugu's Second RiteI'm in.
>>94393459how people gonna cast that card in a format with pain lands
>>94393486If I cast it once every 40 games, I'm happy.
>>94393486>Run pain lands>Be at 11 life>Can't cast spells without dyingSeems like a good situation to me
tq
>>94393604b-b-b-b-BASED
Ban Heartfire Hero and Standard becomes a real format. It is honestly that simple.
>>94393615dimir hands typed this post
>>94393637Yes.
>>94393615Don't play arena, even bo3. It's matchmaking is detached from reality. I play gruul prowess and my last 20 games were against tons of black removal. Not even one mirror. And I lost all of them
>>94393700Bro your Whispersilk Cloak...Black is terrible in removing artifacts.
>>94393380Based
>>94393174It's a glorified meta balance patch that has limited slapped on for some reason.
>>94394003In standard, anon?Not to mention that they have enough tools to deal with stuff like my sideboarded forge.
yeah im thinking we are back metalworkbros
>>94393700Is the theory still that the matchmaker looks at your decklist and matches you based on that still a thing? I remember years ago people putting a few 1-ofs control cards in their agro lists trying to manipulate the matchmaker.
>>94394691It 100% is a thing and it made me quit due to it. Months spent grinding to make 1 deck only to run exclusively into its hard counter if I won too much. Also the matchmaker takes into account the number of rares and mythics so you have top tier meta decks designed to bully other jank decks because the matchmaker will only queue it into jank since it only has a few mythics in it
>>94394691The weighting numbers leaked earlier this year. They claimed they were just the weights of the cards in Brawl, but a lot of them made 0 sense. Like Zenith Flare had a higher weighting than The One Ring, in pseudo-commander. It made no sense.
>>94394836I think the claims were specifically for Brawl and that there was DIFFERENT weighting for unranked play. Ranked play, they claimed, strictly just matched on rankings.
>>94394836well there is no one ring deck, and the meta has plenty of tools to deal with it, so it makes perfect sense that ToR is below draft uncommons.
>>94395003Oko is weighted the same as Shatter the Sky. The weightings were fucked.
MTG should go back to blocks. The way it is now there's not enough time to develop and get attached to a new setting, and if they went back they'd be less likely to do retarded shit no one wants like Cowboys world and Akira Bike Slide world if it means investing a whole year's worth of product into it
>>94395003Zenith Flare is deemed 5 times as powerful in Brawl as Oko, Thief of Crowns and Teferi, Hero of Dominaria.
>>94395031No, you'd just get a whole year of MKM and everybody would hate it instead.
>>94395031Blocks are never coming back, and you know well why.hint, it's three letter acronym
>>94395118...USA?
>>94395118Damn, you really hated DTK that much?
>>94393615you ban heartfire and they still have swiftspear, scamp, monstrous rage, emberheart, hired claw, turn inside outremember a year ago when people said "just ban kumano"?you know what's obscene? all the red 1 drops dealing more damage than boltwave
Allow Mark to spell it out for you.
>>94395118HAS is down 13.04% over the past month, I guess.
>>94392974It says Z/X in the corner, so if you searchZ/X プレイマットorZillions of Enemy プレイマットand spend long enough looking you can probably find it. I don't know the characters name. I'm also impressed that he managed to get 200 sleeves with the same art.
>>94395184Also Mark: Prints the 500th simic commander with Landfall: Draw a card.
>>94395118>three letterJEW
>>94395196Oh, I think I heard of that game. Dunno anything about it, but it's a THING I've heard of.
>>94395184So why don't they just drop the act and just straight up say that magic is 95% EDH now. We all know it, we know that if you are not a commander player you are basically a second class citizen and your format is slowly be eroded by edh staples and design filtering in. The constant, "Hey Mark why is wotc shitting on {non-edh format} constantly?" questions on the blog and the same answer of, "Well our sales data shows that..." or "there are other demographics of players who also need to enjoy the product..." was old years ago. It almost feels like they are ashamed or something. Just rip the band-aid off and say your game is commander focused and other formats are secondary concerns at best.
>>94392990I have use mimic vat plus this to win soooo many games
>>94393016How tho?
Sometimes I wonder what they were consuming while designing cards.
initiative and monarch would make more sense if they started a subgame of Sonic Adventure 2: Battleeveryone at hasbro should be in prison
I will now play your format
>>94395338Land-walk abilities are extremely powerful.Also this is from homelands, so it was designed in a bottle, so its with a bunch of 1/3 and 2/2 in mind, and giving them all unlockable is pretty strong.
>>94395362Leyline Axe is such a Chad card.
>>94395312This
>>94395362It's his turn.
>>94395338Love that set, Homelands? That art was so good, for it's time. What happened?
>>94395312Their data is wonky though because somehow magically they have "hard data" that the vast majority of MtG consumers are kitchen table only players...despite not having any concrete way to obtain that data, especially when you see that through stores / LGS / online ordering the consumer market that is keeping MtG propped up is the collectors and highly invested player base.The point is, you can make "data" come to any conclusion you want. I wouldn't put much weight into what WotC says, especially when they are almost guaranteed to turn around on it a year or two down the road.
Thoughts?
>>94395520It was the last set managed by the east coast team before it got integrated into the main team.
>>94393016Fuck your color pie, print green angels faggotall kinds of green dragons and insects get flying
>>94393351I think that's called Ebonized
>>94392870
>>94395654These would be 100× better if the numbers were distributed normally.
>>94395751They're not meant to be used as d20.
>>94395758And as a result, they have no use
>>94395725Sorry Anon Angel's are Whites Iconic creatures at best your going to get GW barring UB content which circumvents these restrictions.
>>94395790They're used as life counters. Shitty ones, but that's the intent. If the numbers were distributed like d20, they'd be even worse as life counters.
>>94395587>Maro says 48+% of mtg players are female based on their data*>all major events are 99% male>go to a lgs, 90%+ male>decades of my personals view has been that mtg is a massive sausage fest, yet maro keeps on insisting that there is this massive female population that exists... somewhere, and you just have to take his word for it, stop being sexist gatekeeper, mtg is a game for all!
>>94395808d20 life counters don't work unless you have 0 ways to gain life
>>94395826>unless you have 0 ways to gain lifeWhich is most decks. Like I said, they're shitty and most people would be better off with just using pen and paper. But they're not going to put d20 in a game that doesn't use them outside of niche cards. They're probably just a collectible gimmick someone spun up, using similar molds they already had for d20 to make something relevant for Magic.
>>94395811The majority of almost every product's customer base is casual. People who go to events, LGS, or post about it online are going to be a far smaller but more entrenched fraction. It's not crazy to think there's a decent amount of women who buy cards, there's plenty who like collecting artsy stuff and are into board games.
>>94395031>MTG should go back to blocks.But it just did.Each year you'll have three sets which are all in the same MtG setting, and then three sets in the funko pop setting
>>94395338You have to understand the meta at the time. The original dual-lands counted as both base types which made all kinds of landwalks super powerful. Many people used those dual-lands to play Swords to Plowshares and Disenchants in otherwise non-white decks. So in a mono-white deck Aysen Highway had a high chance to make all your creatures unblockable with no downsides.
you guys think i can get away with using this playmat at my lgs
>>94395944Where do you live
>>94395944The LGS store will always side with the squeaky wheel, all it takes is one person to be offended by the "sexual depiction of anime children" to cause an issue. Even if your LGS owner completely agrees with the mat, they still will probably ask you privately not to use it.
>>94395725Green dislikes hover sluts, they're barren mana constructs created by white incels.
>>94395983dangerously based
>>94395796We already have plenty of angels outside of white though.
Has anyone successfully gotten their gf to play magic with jumpstart?
>>94396003jumpstart is an awful product for new players.
>>94395983Counterpoint, Serra boned Feroz
>>94396014Is it? What's a better way then?
>>94396014This is objectively correct. The prerelease pack is the best starter kit we have because WotC continues to refuse to make Standard legal precon decks.
>>94396003Focus on the aspects she likes. I know a lot of girls who collect Pokemon cards because cute animals, despite not playing the game much or at all. You can try Bloomburrow stuff if she's that type. From there you can ease her into playing a starter deck or something like that.
>>94396003Has anyone successfully got a gf?
>>94395811Most females are afraid and disgusted by MTG so the don't go to public events.
>>94396031Honestly, anything, just make some yourself out of bulk, proxy some decks (this also has the bonus that you can make your own altered deck if you want to put in the effort. I made a white weeny humans deck, but altered the art and text to be a bunny/rabbit altered deck, this was before BLM, and she loved it.) I don't know if they still do, but Card Kingdom used to make these 60 card Bulk decks for 10$ that while having no money value, were great as introduction deck with strong cards and synergies. You can also think of them as very streamlined draft or sealed decks My dislike of Jumpstart is that oddly designed with basically every pack having one piece of removal and one "i win" bomb, so the games just turn into a race of who draws and plays their bomb before the opponent spends their 2 pieces of removal. There is also some strange choices like dark confidant in a high mana value demon deck, not really sure what that's gonna teach new players.
Haven't played in a while, is Bloomburrow good? Was thinking of picking up a few packs and doing a draft with my friend
>>94396133very narrow limited set, it is fun the first few times but grows stale much quicker than a regular set due to most draft just turning into you picking the 2 colored tribe and just sticking to that. All frog decks seems similar, all rat decks have the same commons and uncommon, all raccoon decks are running the same uncommon.
>>94396031Here's a dirt-cheap tribal Angel deck that will be Standard legal for 5 years.https://www.moxfield.com/decks/oXqi4IaWKEamd9S53aic4w
>>94393822You're right I don't know why I put chandra in that list, my bad.
also karn being there was important because he gave up his spark to heal themI think, I haven't read it since it came out
>>94396182Uh, he basically used his (or rather Venser's) spark to help purify them via vague nonsense and that, coupled with his whole "was literally disassembled" thing during most of MOM, wound up pushing the spark too far and it sort of just poofed. Which was a lot less interesting as a consequence when a bunch of other characters also just arbitrarily lost their sparks for no reason whatsoever.
>>94392920Thank you, that's exactly who I was thinking of.
>>94395184yes, even in the latest las vegas even he was actively asking randoms what their favorite cards types/mechanics were. persumably so he can shove them in the game as a commander with no regards to balance aka nadu
>>94396133it's fun. unlike foundations, it actually is a good set for new players, because it leans so heavily into the dual color archetypes that it's hard to mess up
Found my new favorite mtg art. Just look at this.
>>94396627> unlike foundations, it actually is a good set for new players>Calling the last send off to Magic as it was bad.
>>94396639sick
>>94396639
Why do cards nowadays have their textbox look like a lefty meme? What happened to crisp, clean, readable cards? And why are there so many recycled mechanics with a different name? Wtf happened to the design of the game?
I don't like how they added "of their choice" bloat to card text
>>94396754But they took out flavorful bloat like "the battlefield" and "mana pool"
>>94395811I host casual drafts at home. 1/3 of my players are biological women.
>>94396782FtM trannies don't count.
>>94396639is that a fucking krasis?
>>94396692Is this card useless or am I spoiled by FIRE design?>>94396769Always fun to get a reminder of how far rules text readability has come
>>94395937>The original dual-lands counted as both base types which made all kinds of landwalks super powerful.Anon, they still do. They've never not.
>>94396782You can't have a decent draft with 3 people
So how long you do you reckon until wotc just simplifies the game further and lets your creature attack an opponent's creature directly like it was a planeswalker?
>>94396692This seems useless to me. Am I missing something
>>94397033
>>94397019He clearly means one third and not one out of three
>>94395967Alaska
>>94397019i have
>>94397029And ruin flight? Uh, never?
>>94397043I wish I could read stuff that little...
>>94397218Fight* not flight
>>94397043sorrow's path does literally nothing in this combo thoughyou could do this with literally any land
>>94397029They will simplify the game but not like this.
why does pauper have goblin guide and twin combo, is everyone at wizards a cocksucking retard
playing arena feels so ridiculousI cash in my treasures/vault/beseech to reenact in an atraxa. It gets me a whole grip of cards including omniscience, breach, reenact, matlazanti- all visible to the opponentopponent untaps and casts liliana, -2 to kill atraxaI untap, think about it, play a land and pass. I could have used matlazanti and set up to go off in another turn, but instead I count on the arena factorI have 5 untapped lands with 1UUU sitting up, omniscience and reenact visible in my handopponent untaps, taps out to cast unholy annexwait a seconduses liliana +1 while tapped out
>>94397339tomb raider is not a goblin guidesadistic glee is not a twin combo>sorcery speed easily interacted with>requires you to have one of your 4-of lands to play on curvestandard is closer to having splinter twin than pauper is
>>94397352shut the fuck up Chris Cocks
>>94397029That's not going to happen, because blocking is too baked in as a concept. What they SHOULD do is eratta all mana abilities that have non-mana effects to say "Activate only as an instant".
>>94397360if I can't hold it up at instant speed on the end of your turn 3-4, untap and kill you before you can untap, its not twin
>>94397342would Liliana + Zombify fit in your deck?
>bought a playset of pic related for 8 tix a few weeks ago to play some meme shitpile I came up with>fast forward to now>the standard meta has shifted>it's now a staple in a top tier deck>gonna sell my playset for 100 tix tomorrow I know I've said this many times now but I fucking love MTGO's economy, it's the exact opposite of Arena: I get financially rewarded by my impulse to build random piles with new cards.
>>94397383Liliana works as discard but doesn't give you a beseech the mirror fodder on her own and is much harder to keep alive than artifactsZombify can't bring back omniscience or breach, your two best targets. If all you do is bring back an atraxa it probably dies, opponent untaps and swings in for lethal. If all you do is bring back a theorist, it won't have enough cards in the bin to cast anything.Usually you want to either;>recur omniscience and trivially pop offor>recur breach, which adds cards to your yard, which gets back either theorist and fodder to let you keep casting (another spell even if opponent has instant speed removal), or at least an atraxa + 2nd blocker vs aggro since you get their creature tooAnything else just winds up being a slow clumsy reanimator path, especially if you had to sacrifice treasures or bargain an artifact to beseech to get zombify, which leaves you with no followup even if you get an atraxa and new grip of cards
>>94397278Sorrow's Path is what kills your opponent in this combo, anon. What did you think the combo was doing?
>>94397552i completely forgot there was a cost for sorrow's path i just remembered it as the shitty combat land
>>94397220Works on my machine
>>94397043>entire combo gets thwarted by opponent having an urborg
>>94397654what about urborg blocks the combo
>>94397399Breach seems kind of shit but you're the one who plays the deck so you'd know better.The list is like 18 uncastable giant spells, 12 do-nothing artifacts, and 8 graveyard recursion effects, right?Looked like too many win-more pay-off cards. I'd start with cuts there if I were playing it.I liked the anon's suggestion to find a way to reduce the 3-card infinite bounce wincon down to 1 card.For Zombify, I guess Valvagoth could be better than Atraxa. Idk how Standard deals with that guy.
>>94397681the part where no matter how many tokens you gave them, they just take 2 damage
>>94397702explain this to me i dont understand layers n shit
>>94397685I'm not sure if you're familiar but its an established deck that was run in tournaments before rotation, it just lost the pieces until foundations was addedIts not a reanimator deck, its a combo deck that mills out the opponent on the spot the turn you cast ityou just cast breach the multiverse an unlimited number of times in the same turn, mill your opponent to 0 and pass and they lose.If its turn 3-4 and you cheat out an omniscience or breach the multiverse, you can win on the spotomniscience is obvious (free breaches, get more fuel from atraxa/dowser, every reenact/beseech is free, etc)just breach the multiverse can lead to it. An example line is something like;>turn 1 enigma jewel>turn 2 vault, end of opponents turn loot>turn 3 loot, reenact or beseech to get reenact, hit omniscience or breach>if you hit breach, you get back conspiracy theorist, use it to cast more atraxa/beseech/reenact to get out more cards / omniscience
>>94397708When squid is on the stack you simply tap one of your tokens. Because it is sorrow's path, it deals 2 damage to you and all your other tokens and they all die before they would be tapped. You only take 2 damage, then squid resolves and does nothingYou normally can't tap your sorrows path tokens because they have no mana ability, urborg makes them swamps
>>94397736oooh i was trying to think of every angle except just... intentionally tapping one of themclearly sad squid combo needs to run phantasmal terrain to deal with urborgsunless that doesn't work the way i think it does and you just do something more reasonable like boomerang
>>94397654Yeah. If it wasn't for Urborg/Yavimaya this 14 land combo would be pretty nasty so I'm glad there is at least one answer.
I want to make a Standard mill deck on Arena
>>94397727I know how it works, I'm suggesting that now that you have Omniscience do you really need to dedicate so many slots to giant win-the-game pay-offs?From the list you posted that seems like where fat can be trimmed to improve the deck.
>>94397782there's a lot of self-mill decksif you wanna play mill opponent, all the options are either combo decks that win with a mill condition, or grindy control lists that play a few jaces (or breach + jace)no fair mill decks like other formats
>>94397808Mindskinner was at least a threat in draft/sealed
>>94397808here's v1.0 of my self-mill deck (pretty much all commons/uncommons).win-con: dump all your man-lands into play.might want 1 big instant/sorcery to hit with Founding. maybe a Wrath of God.
>>94397888what's the point of llanowar elves in a deck with almost no 1-drops / 3-drops. You can't curve into anythinghave you considered using Raise The Past instead of dewdrop cure?
>>94397894I originally wanted to make it a Raise the Past deck but Aftermath Analyst is the only relevant creature to get back here, so it's not as good.Can try cutting Llanawar Elves for more spells. I really wanted to double spell with it on turn 3 and the deck plays a lot of tap lands.
i am going to play hatebears and win at least one match on monday. it'll be w/b so i can have access to bowmasters and/or orzhov pontiff.
>>94397394>but I fucking love MTGO's economyi trophied in DSK limited and opened my packs and got less than 50 cents
there's actually nothing for legacy in Foundations, tragic
>>94397394MTGO """""economy""""" is actually extremely rigged mostly due to Daybreak's refusal to develop an inhouse solution for buying and selling singles and relying on third parties like Goatbots and Cardhoarder. These thirdparties have huge discrepancies between their buy and sell prices, last I checked it was something like 25%, then they'll also buy TIX at like 0.85-0.89$ so thats another 15% off if you wanna cash out.I wouldn't be surprised if Daybreak was in cahoots with the third party sellers. Certainly not the first time shady shit like this happens in online games
>>94398260actually just checked and it's actually 0.81$, so basically any card you buy instantly loses 40% of it's value
>>94395983>>94395996Did you know there are monored and monoblue angels (that are not changelings)?https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/146/akroma-angel-of-furyhttps://scryfall.com/card/ima/59/illusory-angel
>>94398230Surely something could be done with leyline axe.
>>94398230This is a good thing, not a bad thing
>>94395184>The audience strongly wants sets to be mechanically distinct.NO WE DO NOT, MARK.WE WANT THEM TO BE GOOD.OF HIGH QUALITY.
>>94398304I agree that it's good, however I do like when some random uncommon is adopted into the format because it does a very specific thing. Up the Beanstalk is a recent example of something like that but is unfortunately a rather cancerous example that's unenjoyable to play with or against. I guess no change is better than a bad one.
>>94398230What do you mean? The best decks in Legacy play a ton of blue and/or black spells.
>>94398351There was a before time where you would have mostly random roleplayer commons/uncommons that would make it to legacy. I think that it ended around war of the spark, where even standard sets hit such a high power level.
>>94395811>mtg has a 48% female audience not even with all the xims/xers/faes could it get 48% its 1 in 10 at best
>>94395811>>Maro says 48+% of mtg players are female based on their data*AKA1% female99% hot gas
>>94398354What deck wants this? Tempo has better threats and unless something has changed drastically green Stompy isn't good.
>>94398384>are'identify as'
>>94393016Jump off a bridge zoomer
>>94395375That's been changed to soldiers and warriors so its actually decent now lol
Will they print more Foundations boxes and send to resellers or is this it? Games-Island.eu have both play and jumpstart boosters out of stock.
>>94398460>Human Knight>Aysen Crusader's power and toughness are each equal to 2 plus the number of Soldiers and Warriors you control.Not bad, but not matching with what she is buffed by kind of sucks
>>94398622I have to imagine there is more in stock ready to be sent to stores.Also I highly doubt every store is sold out either
>>94398622The entire point of a core set is that it's easily accessible for new players. Not printing it into the ground would be a level of retardation even Wizards is incapable of.
Was reminded this guy existed today. I loved this dude as a kid. I'm gonna shove him into a pioneer deck or something
Quick Question: Is there no one "Legal" method to play ANY format with ALL Cards in the history of the game being available?Explanation: In a fit of autism I recently decided to get back into Magic and to do so in chronological order from one set to the next. I thought MtGO would be best for this because Arena does not have a lot of the older cards but then I learned about the Alchemy format and I maybe I'm just blind and didn't find it but MtGO does not seem to support it. So I thought about Starting on MtGO and then switching to Arena when I reach the Set when Arena originally released and continuing from there but it seems that Arena also does not get some Modern Card Releases as well that seem very popular in the Commander Format(Secret Lairs, UB things like 40K and Doctor Who) or newer formats entirely (Pauper/Commander). Also the monetization structure is frankly insulting compared to MtGO.I could just proxy everything in paper (and will still do that probably) and try to find local people to play for nostalgia but it seems crazy to me that with the game at his most popular the playerbase is split between two digital clients with different sets of missing features/content.
>>94398698You can use a program like cockatrice
>>94398698I'm confused because you are asking about formats but keep listing only digital clients.Vintage has no ban list and only cards limited to 1.Canadian Highlander has no ban list and instead uses a point system
>>94398622There will be another wave of booster boxes, but no more collectors boxes.
>>94398726>Vintage has no ban listVintage ABSOLUTELY has a ban list.
>>94398719I will look into that then, it would be essentially digital proxying, right?>>94398726To clarify my plan is to play around with a Cardpool restricted to Alpha/Beta at first building Decks for and playing them in every available format and then continue chronologically. So when I get to Legends I could start building and playing Commander Decks and when I get to whichever Set had the first Alchemy Cards I would want to start playing and building with those.Because these Alchemy cards seem to have effects that would be hard or impossible to recreate on paper and dont have a printed version and I live in the middle of nowhere with the nearest LGS I found on the WotC locators site being almost two away I thought digital would be the best way for me to do my autism project.
>>94398815*two hours away
>>94398815>I will look into that then, it would be essentially digital proxying, right?yes, it's basically that. The program itself is much more manual, but you have all cards and can simulate playing.
>>94398726Vintage does have a ban list, but for reasons other than power level.>Shaharazad Subgames are a logistical nightmare and create ridiculously long games, so it got banned>Chaos Orb>Shooting StarBoth require physical dexterity to use, require game actions that can't be recreated for a judge, can result in your cards being damaged, and maybe WotC getting sued for discriminating against people with disabilities.>All cards with "Ante"Removed for gambling law related reasons, but I would love to see a proxy tournament that runs on Battle City rules.>All "Conspiracy" cardsThese were designed for an alternate game mode, but had no text preventing them from being used in normal games, so they are all banned.>All "Sticker" and "Attraction" cardsStickers as a mechanic require you to either damage your sticker cards or managing a PILE of paper slips, and they both require you to bring an extra deck of cards. The issue is that it's easy to end up in a situation where you have no sticker/attraction cards in your deck but end up controlling or copying your opponent's cards, so you need to bring these extra decks or risk losing a close game for no good reason. They all got banned to eliminate the logistical nightmare.>Cleanse>Crusade>Imprison>Invoke Prejudice >Jihad>Pradesh Gypsies>Stone-Throwing DevilsThe bigger a company is, the more useless people they employ, and those people tend to invent problems in order to justify their paychecks.
>>94398773Post the ban list then.If said banlist is shit like ante cards and shit then you are retarded
>>94398832I don't count those because those are things wizards ban for every format minus stickers.
>>94398354this is just a worse nimble mongoose and that card sees no play
>>94398832Some of those last list of cards deserved to get banned for sensitivity reasons.Some of those cards have no business being on the list and were an overreactionary ban.
>>94398912Crusade got reprinted in a duel deck so I don't get why they didn't just ban the original art.Crusade being banned is still retarded considering how much shit still uses such imagery without an issue.I don't get how imprison is racist Cleanse is racist because wotc are so racist they stretch it to ethnic cleansing and then infer black refers to black people and not all the fucking monster's that are black creatures in game
>>94398682he's not pioneer legal unfortunately
>>94398922You can't ban specific prints of normal cards, since players are allowed to use any normal print of a card if that card is format legal. If one version is decided to be bad, then all versions need to go.>Understandable bans- Crusade and Jihad are based on real-world, racism-based events.- Gypsies has a slur in the name.- Invoke Prejudice is obvious.>Overeactionary bans- Planar Cleansing isn't about race, but game mechanics, and only got hit because it's a white card that kills black things.- Imprision has a black dude in chains, but he's imprisioned, not enslaved. Other cards depict other races imprisioned, why single out this card.- Stone-Throwing Devils is the funniest/most pointless ban because nobody even knew why it was banned when the list was released, to the point that the only google result you'd get when searching the term was the about the banning itself.
>>94397043>7 card combo that can only go off on turn 7bruh
so I've been tinkering with this cube for a few days, its my attempt to create a beginner friendly environment for new magic players, its fairly low power and high synergy and meant to use guild cards as signpost to tell the drafters what color combos can do as well as have a lot of cross pollination between archetypes.the cards are all pretty low word count with no frames that could confuse new players(adventures, level up, rooms, etc) I'm limiting myself to only a few mechanics per a color to try to make things more simple.I'm looking for any advice on how to improve it.https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/5e7c54ee-f784-4eaf-b0c7-1cb892f9466b
>>94398912>>94398922>>94399005>CleanseThis doesn't even make any sense because a creature being black has nothing to do with racial groups and everything to do with a creature's use of black mana or "power at any cost" mentality. If you get killed by a spell that only hits black creatures, you deserved it.>ImprisonI had to have someone tell me that it was because "it's a black guy in chains" because he doesn't look black. I thought it was because of the nudity.>Invoke PrejudiceThis one is weird to ban because the card is invoking prejudice, which the KKK art reference does very well. The card is supposed to be about a bad thing happening, so it doesn't make any sense to freak out about it.>Pradesh GypsiesGypsy isn't even a bad word, it's like getting bent out of shape over the word Nomad.>CrusadeThis got banned because jews don't like Christians>JihadThis got banned because jews don't like Muslims.>Stone-Throwing DevilsThere are historical accounts of jewish mobs stoning non-jews to death, and the insult was used to call a jew an evil person who follows the crowd without thinking. The card also depicts literal devils throwing stones, so I think the ADL did more harm than good by bringing attention to it.It's all ridiculous, and none of them can be properly justified.
>>94399097>Nomadbut they propably are. just like with eskimo or indians (lol)some call it evolution of the language. I call it newspeak because it wasn't organic
>>94398912None of those cards should be banned. You are a faggot.
Standard is a COMBO FORMAT
>>94398622They've said they'll print Foundations throughout the entirety of its time in Standard, at least.
>>94399097>>Stone-Throwing Devils>There are historical accounts of jewish mobs stoning non-jews to death, and the insult was used to call a jew an evil person who follows the crowd without thinking. The card also depicts literal devils throwing stones, so I think the ADL did more harm than good by bringing attention to it.I have only heard this with respect to the card itself.
>>94399448how does it combo out tho
Speaking of Arena, I wonder how long a Villainous Wealth X=20+ against a cat deck with 100+ triggers would take to resolve in paper.
>>94399577Same. I'm a connoisseur of racial slurs, but had never heard that one before. I only know about the mob thing because I looked into it after the article came out.
Are there any decent zombie decks around?
>>94399762of course there are, zombies are one of the oldest tribals in the whole game. just go to scryfall, type in black zombies and off you go
>>94399762there are no good zombies in standardyou get this guy and Death Baron
any lorebros can tell me what happened to Withengar? or why did Ormendahl get two cards?
>>94399586cast breach the multiverse 6+ times in a row
>>94392870Either I missed them or Arena released a lot of new Vampires. I'm having fun. Bleh Bleh.
>>94399793But I can't find any>>94399810I went through couple of the lists and I don't think they're strong enough for pioneer either or god forbid modern.
>>94399877well there is a very strong zombie list in Modern.it's called Soultrader Combo
>>94399889a list with this cutie???
>go to prerelease>have fun>go home with 3 staples, 3 good cards and 85 cards of chaff that I can never get myself to throw away
>>94400034Just give them to your LGS, they are likely to give them out to whoever wants.That's how I got my first cards. Guy just dumped on me some random commons and lands and shit.
its a game of standardI'm on the drawmy hand is 3 lands and 4 removal spellsI lose to aggro on turn 4fuck this game fuck this format fuck this unplayable bullshit
>>94400210at least our cards are still valuable
>>94399577Its actually a common insult in Israel to Palestine protestors as well
>>94399097Those aren't the KKK but Spanish Inquisitors. But Jesper Myrfors and McNeill have said this multiple times.
If I'm getting started now and want to ensure I track everything I have properly from day 1, what would you suggest?I want something that easily lets me add any new card I obtain, cataloguing it, with search filters and whatnot. I don't want to do it in an app or on a site that turns out to be mediocre later on forcing me to redo it all.
>>94400249Wow, they printed a card of this Ohio token?
>>94400346Unironically Microsoft Excel, you can customize it any way you prefer and/or use premades from reddit
>>94395173>you know what's obscene? all the red 1 drops dealing more damage than boltwaveYeah I had this epiphany trying to play Burn in Standard. The best burn card in Standard is a 1 drop creature.
Is the Foundations Chandra too slow/too weak to make Big Red a thing in Standard?
>>94400548I think so, MOM Chandra is still in Standard and she's a thousand times better
>>94400319That doesn't exactly make it better.
>>94400675You sound like a retarded nigger. The Spanish Inquisition is not nearly as taboo as slavery because the primary victims of the inquisition weren't niggers. You could 100% make a reference to the Spanish Inquisition in modern times, glorifying it even, without people batting an eyelid. Try that with slavery/the KKK and you will be crucified.
>>94392870Are they still allowed to say 'angel'? I know they wanted to get away from printing 'witch', 'warlock' and 'shaman' on cards.
>got to Ult Vivien Reid in my draft last nightI really really like Foundations Limited lads.
>>94400790Marvel next year.
>>94400796I know. It makes me feel so bad.
>>94400319>gatherer #1488>not the KKK
>>94400675That's not the point. While the Inquisition is worse because it effected Christians (at least the Spanish one did), the point is it's not Klansmen.The only thing that sticks about this card is McNeill in the 90s being an edgy racist with a nazi fetish. Yet you know what, despite this, he was hired, by a very liberal company based in fucking Seattle, in the heart of the grunge era at that.He worked professionally not only with Jesper Myrfors, but also with Sue-Anne Huxley, a cosmopolitan blue blood that would buy Magic art (as in to use on cards) from fucking art galleries.She hired this guy, an open racist, to draw on Mirage, a setting in Africa, and he took it, and did so professionally. (We will ignore the urban legend this was based on an ex)RAHYV
>>94400818Purely coincidental. >1487 is In the Eye of Chaos>1489 is Juxtapose
>>94400843lol>>1487 is In the Eye of Chaos>>1489 is Juxtaposeand?
>>94400875You're retarded
>>94400878>it's coincidence because adjacent cards aren't alluding to the kkk toodo you know what a non sequitur is?
I actually cannot believe how good Foundations is.
>>94400897The card were put into gatherer in set order by color. >1400 is Arena of the Ancients>1401 is Black Mana Battery>1402 is Blue Mana Battery>0001 is Ankh of MishraNext you'll say because Lich is 666, WotC is full of Satanists
dead game, dead general
Standar is fun again, monored is dead and poison aids is no longer viable
>>94400939oh geez anon i wonder who decides how cards are put in the gatherer
>>94400968What killed it, Authority?
>>94400968>monored is deaduhhhh
>>94400319It's called plausible deniability, don't be stupid.
>>94400319>stop noticing things!!!
foundations being so good just makes the fact that magic is about to become fortnight an even more bitter pill to swallow.I thought it was a love letter to the game, but it was a send off.
>>94401050Yeah it's a brutal realisation. Not only that we'll never experience this again, but also that Magic could've been this all along instead of the shit they've been pumping out the last 5 years.
>>94392870>TQThe one and the only. (Doubles as my favourite misprint.)Fun story: art was commissioned for a Tropical Island card, but bird was too prominent so Garfield designed a card for the art.
Turns out Vivien Reid is very good in Limited. Who'da thunk it? Even got to kill a Drakuseth with her. I really love Foundations. It's been a long time since I've played drafts at my LGS and then immediately gone home and spammed more drafts on Arena. Being willing to put up with Arena's bullshit just to enjoy more Foundations is the highest compliment I can give the set.
you're way too beautiful, girlthat's why this'll never workthey'll have you suicidal, suicidalwhen i cast chrysalis
>In the middle of November>Still no word on Hatsune Miku's final Secret Lair drop
>>94400974WotC hired a third party company, ones who knew very little about Magic to program gatherer. That's why for the longest only one art on Homelands cards existed on Gatherer, and why a version of Brassclaw Orcs that doesn't exist in paper (the flavortext is wrong) is on there.Do you know why you can't comment on Gatherer anymore?
>Alesha>Braids>literally any sac fodderThis is giving me an erection lads
>>94401604I'm honestly surprised WotC hasn't just said "yeah Scryfall has all this functionality we're functionally just endorsing them as the database site", but I guess Scryfall showing card prices makes that an issue, possibly?
>>94401531Kill yourself
what do you think UUB is
>>94402088ASOFAI
>>94399000well fuck that's the only format low power enough to make him work. I guess I can try and force him in Modern
>>94402088the fact that it could really be anything throws me off but if we restrict it to video games, I think TES would be a perfect fit, there's so much to work with
>>94399874they fly now?
>>94402088The only hints we have are that it's not Marvel and that Chris Mooney, who's the lead for the set, is a fan of the IP, but that narrows it down very little because Chris seems to like a LOT of shit. Could be Star Wars, for all I know.
>>94398912>>94398922>>94399005>>94399097>>94399577>>94399726>>94400314I don't think you guys understand why the Hateful 7 was axe. The issue wasn't the cards themselves, but people dropping Gatherer links or card images as a racist dogwhistle. Invoke Prejudice was the perfect storm - Gatherer #, art, artist, everything fit together way too well for a coincidence. Which is great fuel for anyone into conspiracy theories, or someone who'd like to imply WOTC is into white supremacy but can't openly admit it. The last thing a *children's entertainment company* needs is the buying public's panic over moral issues, especially when some people at WOTC still remember the early 90s "demonic imagery" problem.Now, their solution to memory-hole the cards is abysmal IMO, as was their "there's no racism in the multiverse" statement. You're handed what the public explicitly considers villainous behavior on a silver platter, and instead of building villains around it for the players can fight against, you...say it doesn't exist. Corporate would rather have bland heroes rail against vague injustices because it's safer than engaging hot-button issues, I suppose.>Stone-Throwing DevilsDon't let antisemitism cloud your judgment. Throwing stones at devils is part of the hajj. The card, especially the flavor text, implies that those who undertake the hajj are the devils. There was an old article where Maro or someone else explicitly called out that, had they known at the start they'd be printing Magic in other languages, they would have been more careful with how the content will be received. Specifically, if they ever decided to print Magic in Arabic, that card would be an incredibly bad idea to translate.
>>94402088breaking bad
>>94402606the cunts must pay the cost
Come to Premodern, anon.Come back home...
>>94402088I believe the star trek leak, but the leak just might be a secret lair for the space opera set
almost there!
>>94402800ross at the end was like god i suck at math
Went from gold to mythic with only 4 match losses with UG Ninjutsu in pioneer. This deck is so real
>>94403292based ninjutsu chad
>>94403304o7
what else could go in BW self-mill?
It's been so long (2020) I forgot what T3 Ghalta in standard feels likeFeels good man
>>94403399Infestation sage would probably be better than linkbreaker. Market gnome is a 1 mana body that draws you a card. Not sure about the lifegain direction, though it might work out. You'd probably want another sac outlet too.
>>94403292List?
>>94403413ok I might actually play standard now
>>94403424unfortunately there are no other playable sac outlets.I did add a couple copies of this guy to test and he immediately won me a game. He's somehow Standard legal even though you can't open him in packs.
>>94403605He's from the Foundations starter collection stuff. None of those can be opened from packs or drafted, they're craft only. Yes, Arena is retarded like that.
>>94403399No Forsaken Miner?
What is, in your opinion, your favorite 2-player draft format? I'm looking to build something with the gf that we can play together, I'm thinking either a twobert cube or a sealed set cube. We've played a 200-card Wizard's Tower together and she's enjoyed that, but I like drafting so I wanted something where we could explore different archetypes. She likes the macabre art so I was leaning towards an Innistrad set cube or something. Any suggestions?
>>94403630Unironically just draft foundations
>>94403605Maybe this?
>>94402606See, this is further proof that the card shouldn't be censored. People can't even agree on WHY it's racist
>>94402606>The last thing a *children's entertainment company* needs is the buying public's panic over moral issuesThey have a porn star on their community board and linked her adult content, the made a gay fetish art for bear scape, shoves in trans representation, have hired content creators insult right wingers/ the president.WOTC has stopped being a children's company long ago
Does Standard have any Agatha's Soul Cauldron combos?
>>94403829Yes as I can't imagine a format where cauldron is legal and there isn't some kind of combo
SAY THE LINE!
>>94404006>1-8 are all above 50%Boy, I'm glad there's no One Ring deck terrorizing Modern.
>>94404006>6/10 are white
>>94404006I'm glad to not own any of these
>>94403829It still has an infinite mana combo with the untapping fairy and mana equal to power dork.
>>94403829It's not a combo, but throwing Arcanis the Omnipotent under it feels pretty good.
I wanna use him in mono green stompy so bad but I know it's ass.How can I make this good/fun even if I have to build a deck around it?
>>94404150
>>94404164Hey there we go.
>>94404150Have this under soul cauldron. GCG becomes infinite turns.
>>94398260You're right, and I don't see how they can be blind to it. I thought about suggesting this to them but they are not always receptive to feedback from fa/tg/uys. Bots are siphoning a lot of money out of mtgo, and the rental services too. More than enough to hire another developer and add some profit to the bottom line.The prices are probably even worse than you think too. Depends on what type of cards are in your collection, but the commission is properly calculated off of the buy price. For example, say you go to the GoatBots Collection Tracker and you see numbers like>2101 tickets based on our current buy prices and 3058 tickets based on our current sell prices(3058 - 2101) / 2101 = 46% buyer's feeDaybreak wouldn't be able to fully convert this to income because some of it would go to the players in form of efficiencies, but ultimately every ticket on Magic Online represents a dollar somebody paid into the system. Once the trade bots can't collect massive fees anymore, they won't have a supply of tickets to compete with Daybreak for sales.
>>94404180Very neat.
>>94404184it's gotta be corruption. If you've ever played OSRS a long time ago the most popular third party client was called OSbuddy and it was developed by an ex-employee of Jagex and had it's headquarters right next to Jagexs. Any attempts at an open-source alternative would get reprimanded by Jagex and warned as banworthy until the community dug up what was actually happening but the MTGO is too pussywhipped to do anything about it + 90% of the people with a platform are sponsored by these thirdparties. They make bank + give pennies to the streamers and the end costumer is the one who loses and doesn't even know it
>>94404184I've seen some people saying the all access passes are their method of trialing a subscription based service, the problem is how to make that coincide with the cards that people already own and have owned for years.
>>94404231imagine the market manip if they added the grand exchange to MTGO
>>94404244for players that own they need to make an auction house and enable some form of fractional tix for trading, even it means paying for a credit like the bots use now. all access can replace rentals.>>94404231I love a good conspiracy but all the major operators pre date Daybreak by a while. Wizards is known for some insider trading with cards, but they are also known for being terrible at software. I'm not sure they could do it. Maybe one of their cronies secretly runs goats, but I can't see any special connection to cardhoarders and manatraders.
>>94404258it's already happening and goatbots is one of the perpetrators
>store packed with commander players>owner plays with his phone at the register because no one's buying anythinglmao
So I can’t pull cards from the starter colllection for FDN? 2 boxes and 5 prerelease kits and not a single Boros Charm.
>>94404326oink oink
>>94404326Its only in the starter collection.You can check here https://magic.wizards.com/en/products/foundations/card-image-gallery?cigcolor=all-colors&cigfreshness=all-cards&cigproduct=all-products&cigset=all-sets&cigsubset=all-subsets&cigsubtype=all-subtypes&cigtreatment=all-treatments&cigtype=all-types&cigrarity=all-rarities>>94404330Don't mock people for buying the good product, better foundations than anything coming out next year.
I wonder what the EV of a foundations booster will look like in 5 years like I don't think they've ever had a set being printed for 5 years so I imagine it'll be about the price of a roll of toilet paper
how rare are korean cards? feels like korean and cyrillic are foreign cards i almost never see. asking cuz someone wants to sell a set of korean fbb 4ed bolts
>>94404491Korean, Cyrillic, and old maybe traditional Chinese cardsStarcity games has those bolts at $85.Korean and Cyrillic has flopped back in forth in desirability at times
>>94404504SCG's prices are inaccurate because they only update them when they restock. Collectable languages are only worth as much as people are willing to pay. Old Chinese and Korean cards are often desired by Premodern-sphere collectors with many eternal format relevant cards being available in these languages. You can view set availability by language using the drop down box at the top here https://scryfall.com/setsKorean exists for fewer sets than Russian, but unlike Russian was printed for 90s sets including 4BB. Russian only exists in the Modern and M15 frames, apart from promo Laquatus's Champion. Traditional Chinese is also fairly obscure due to only being released in (I believe) Taiwan and Hong Kong, but I believe has had more time to move and has been more consistently printed than Russian or Korean. Simplified Chinese is relatively common, and when buying directly from mainland China, buying CN-S cards is often cheaper than buying English ones. Exceptions for stuff like retro frame foils, they're more expensive in Chinese.4BB bolts, STP etc are a popular way to get black bordered imitation-Beta cards. I'm intending to black border English 4ED bolts and other cards, myself.
>>94404596That's interesting, personally I'm retarded so I just enjoy dumb shit like German hedge maze, Spanish myr sire, or French jagged lightning
I started playing 3 months ago. I did go with mono red. Started with Mono red. It's going well, but it's kinda boring.Friday I played against a dimer midrange deck, what seemed quite fun. Are the expensive cards in it ( sheoldred/faery mastermind) hold their value when they're no longer standart legal in late 25?
>>94404006which one>the meta is diverse and healthy>there is no singe the one ring deck>we are monitoring the situation>expect to see cards in the future sets that combat these archetypes
>>94404890or>[current set] was the best selling set of all time>people loved the [current set]
So the only decent card I've found for a Soul Cauldron deck in Standard is this guy.A random copy of Arcanis would be good too, as an anon mentioned.
>>94404693sheoldred still sees play in other formats and she's hard to replace in the decks that play her, so I think her price should hold better than other cards, but they could always start to aggressively reprint her
this card seems good to exile with Urborg Scavengerscould be a good Unearth target next to Oculus in Standard?
>>94405283Why? Scavengers will only get lifelink.
>>94405291it will get Hexproof from instants as well.Deep-Cavern Bat is another pretty natural Scavengers target that is a good card by itself.maybe there is a BW goodstuff midrange deck that can jam Scavengers with 4x Overlord of the Balemurk
>>94392935>Selenia>Is OrzhovSOMEONE MAKE IT MAKE SEEEENSE!!!
>>94405345You keep saying that but I'm pretty sure it's not true.
>>94405355Well it's not, because I double checked the rules>A “hexproof from [quality]” ability is a hexproof abilit
they got him mid sentence, rip
unban the one ring in gladiator
>>94404471Same thing as Karlov stuff. This is the real reason for bringing back msrp
>>94405478karlov has the surveil lands. Wizards need to make Standard worth playing if they want a foundations booster to be worth anything in a few years
>>94404890>combatDon't you mean "support"?
If Heartfire Hero isn't banned in the next week, Magic is dead to me.
>>94405605then you can consider magic dead because the next B&R is confirmed to be in december, four weeks from tomorrow
>>94405547no, I was referring to how in one of the wotc live streams one of the designers was trying to defend Fury by saying that they'll be printing 2 toughness creatures in the future to take it into account (lmao)
How would The Coin affect MtG?
>>94405694the player going second gets a mana on their first turn (not a treasure or anything to avoid synergy)?still broken rather than balancing
Convince me to not waste my wildcards on this shitty historic merfolk deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6761256>Simic>Runs low land count thanks to Shoreline and Cenote scout >Kiora, the Rising Tide is there to finish the game thanks to exploration milling>CoCo because why not>Only removal is Run away together because of my low curve and ETBs. In theory to me it sounds synergistic and fun to pilot but I have this feeling that individual cards are too weak and payoff is too small for it to be worth in in 2024.
>>94405708I suggested The Coin specifically because I know giving the second player a treasure would be so much more degenerate
>>94405723yea, I was just confirming what the coin does. like a floating mana that doesn't get lost during the first turn only of the second player I assumegemstone cavern is kinda like it but a permanent and giving more stuff like that would certainly break something
>>94405708>balancingAre chess not balanced?
>>94405768No? White goes first and has a higher win rate on average.
>>94405896Yes. That's my point.
Speaking of Cyrillic, does anyone want to buy my playset of Foil Russian FUT Tarmogoyfs?
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>>94405291I've used this card so many times to win games
>>94405768You can't win on turn 3 in chess unless your opponent is actually retarded.First-turn advantage diminishes as average game length increases.
