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>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://mtglands.com

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ:
What was the most disappointing set of 2024?
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>>94406796
>What was the most disappointing set of 2024?
I was most disappointed at Murders at Karlov manner, as it failed on every level to deliver. It didn't feel like a murder mystery, leaned on only the most surface-level tropes, and failed entirely to feel like Ravnica at the same time. Thunder Junction is a close second for botching what should have been a slam-dunk of flavor, but at least it did some things right.
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>>94406796
mkm was the worst, not!manifest, not!morph leading to a billion more types of facedown cards, but now instead of being generic creatures you have to know that they have ward for some reason
gravestorm being on another card is cool tho
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Page 8 is still early. Anyway, repost:
>Rite of the Dragontimmy is already at 1/3 the price it was a week before release
>despite being in multiple e-celeb “top in the 99” lists
Feels good bros. It’s going to a buck fifty. Sadly people’s faith in random retards online who got popular by personality rather than being good at games will not see such a market crash
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>>94406782
Oh hey. I ended up finding a nice dragon goad deck on a list of budget commander decks that I played for the first time on Friday. Out of the 3 games we played, 1 of them being a 3s, I won one of the games. I had a ton of fun with the goad mechanic though. He won 2 of those games because he kept copying my fucking dragons so I couldn't land hits on him or goad him too well. Plus another friend of mine just likes to basically exclusively target me. Except in that last game we teamed up towards the end because we both didn't want the other guy to win 3 duels back to back.
>Run more interaction. Learn the key pieces that make the deck work. Read the cards to do so. And then interact with them via whatever ways fit in your own deck
Said angel/vampire deck hasn't premiered yet so I have no idea what to expect. I just know most angels and vampires have flying so he might be an issue again. I was thinking of making this fun looking green/white deck that involves a ton of big monsters and preventing damage to wear him out but I'm not sure that's the answer. The thing is the price range is so much more than what any of us would be used to.
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>>94406828
>manner
Fucking hell, Manor. That wasn't even auto-correct, that was my brain just shoving in the wrong homophone.
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>>94406796
>TQ
mkm was fine I guess but the worst
story was ok at least since they remembered ravnica is supposed to not be a weird happy utopia
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>>94406835
I could not imagine being this full of resentment lmao
>these people I don't like were wrong so I'm happy now!
Why do you worship content creators
>i dont
Then why do you know what cards they are hyping up and keeping tabs on them? Jesus fucking christ dude get some confidence
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>>94406836
More expensive cards rarely ever mean ridiculously powerful decks. (Except fast mana like moxes and mana vault)
You mention your friend exclusively targets you. Are you actually the biggest threat, or does targeting you really seem like the most sensible option from their perspective?
I forgot if your group is all or mostly new players, but in my own experience, threat assessment is something my group struggled with a lot early. Once we got better at that and started running more interaction, our games became noticeably more fun. I could swing my board at the biggest threat and not get the other 2 players hitting me for freebies "Because you're wide open."
>No idea what to expect from angels & vampires
Don't go slotting in silver bullets that work only against a specific deck. Just run interaction like usual. Maybe make the interaction a little more flexible. No need to run destroy-target-flying-creature stuff. If the 3 of you can't find a way to beat the angel/vampire deck into submission together, there's bigger things you can work on.

You do mention winning once. Analyze what made that possible. Did you interact by removing key pieces yourself? Did you wait for the right moment to take out both other players at the same time? Most obviously, you can only really tell once you play against it, if it's a tough deck to play against. Best of luck anon.
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>>94406859
>being aware of something is now worship
It must be difficult to go through life as such a histrionic faggot, incapable of forming a coherent point as your brain succumbs to phytoestrogens

There’s about 500 unique cards in the set. I was interested in knowing what cards to look out for without scrolling 500 cards myself.
Dragontimmy card was on multiple top lists for Commander. It is blatantly not very good. An over-costed win-more that doesn’t even give the dragon tokens haste.
Pre-release it was at $15, just days after release it’s at $5. Why? Because it’s not very good.

I will be smug and there is no amount of seething on your part that can prevent that
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>>94406959
>being aware of something is worship
Some things yeah. I don't care about mtg content creators and I have no idea what they are saying or thinking because I simply avoid them. You're weak and full of resentment and excuses
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>>94406966
If you were as secure as you want people to believe you are, you wouldn’t interject to declare that you know nothing about what is being discussed as if it’s something to brag about
>LOOK AT ME GUYS! I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT! ARENT I COOL FOR NOT KNOWING? PLEASE VALIDATE ME!
Speaking of weak…
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>>94406985
I interjected to call you a loser anon, it's stated i don't know what's going on to counter your point that you don't worshio these people you claim to hate ^.^
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>>94406796
>TQ
Assassin's Creed, so underwhelming people forgot it happened.
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>>94407009
>im really cool and above it all, so I don’t watch e-celebs for Magic news, but I’m not so cool and above it all that I can also ignore people talking about that Magic news on 4channel
Sounds like a (You) problem
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I have a jank mono-G deck that has more than once durdled whilst I have 15-30 forests in play because I can't draw my limited draw pieces. I'm considering putting in something like Helix Pinnacle for just such an occasion
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Here is your Nemata and Rebel token from the new secret lair bro.

hit me with the (YOU) for requests.
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>>94407032
do the new marvel cards but in mtg universe, please and thank you
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Give me commanders who are old school fantasy wizards.
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>>94407050
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>>94407022
Play more draw? What's the deck
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>>94407032
nice nemata
you hav ean album of these?
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Thinking of a new green deck since I lost my Sasaya deck. Something goofy was thinking Gargos voltron, lots of targeted pump spells so he can keep the board clear. Cards like this and dragons guard elite, silverfur partisan and venerated rotpriest, and aeve as backup beaters, couple hydras for value but largely cantrips that target my creatures. Thoughts?
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I want to play Traptrix in Magic. How do?
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>>94406956
>More expensive cards rarely ever mean ridiculously powerful decks
Thanks for that info. I don't think I'll make a deck specifically counter his angels but I did want to make another deck so I could have more options.
So there's 4 of us right. Friend A is the one with the clone deck and soon to be vamp-angel deck. Friend B just likes to target me more often than not because in his eyes I'm the biggest threat to him in terms of skill. I see the same thing on my side of things but I don't exclusively return the aggression before this Friday when I wanted to with my newer more aggressive deck, and because I could due to my creatures all having flying. But because of that I left myself wide open more than a few times which I want to make sure I don't do again.
>Did you interact by removing key pieces yourself? Did you wait for the right moment to take out both other players at the same time?
We were doing a 3 play commander when I won the game. Friend C had to leave so it was A, B and myself. I won at the end because me and friend B sort of teamed up to prevent friend A from winning his third game of the night. I did end up scooping the win due to an instant that allowed me to recycle it from my graveyard to eliminate one of the dragon's he copied from me. But again I only won because friend B really helped me out.
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How you guys feel playing against a theft deck?
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>create diversity bait black Aragorn
>print an alt that looks like a blaxploitation movie poster
what did WOTC mean by this
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>>94407189
This is clearly some 70s hard/prog/psych rock concert poster. Not whatever you think it is
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A few threads ago someone offered to share their Thromok list. If you see this post, please share your list.
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>>94407105
not really but I guess you can find in past generals.
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>>94407307
I think I'm the one you're referring to. Here's the list: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/8Bfp4UMQpk-SYKViDCKvWQ

There's some cards from considering that should probably go in (natural order, bane of progress, maybe pattern of rebirth, collective unconscious, rishkar's expertise), but I want to play it a bit more to see what I should swap out. Also, I just grabbed lands I had lying around, it would definitely benefit from more duals (but then ruination should probably be cut).
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>>94407180
Tranny mechanic. Troons are obsessed with control and theft strategies.
I built my deck so I could play with it, keep your manly hands off my cards.
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>>94407189
Unironically based and cool unlike regular Aragorn
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>playing voltron
>players keep swinging into me because I'm "open" while ignoring the Meren player because they have a board full of creatures and some of theirs might die if they attack
>even remove my commander when he hits the board because I can "win in one turn if I get set up"
>next round Meren player lethals me and another player and the last player scoops

Really makes me wonder if I'm extremely hateable or if some Voltron player hurt these people in the past.
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>>94407462
They either don't like you, or are extremely retarded. Rafiq can only kill one person at a time without Extra Turns I believe.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>94407522
There's ways to get at least two a turn if you're really bulked up, but the pieces have got to come together nicely.
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Will card shops take the plastic shields I got from buying cards online? Seems like a waste to throw them out but I don't have a use for them.
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>>94406796
>TQ
MKM is the undisputed biggest dud of 2024. The destruction of Ravnica as a setting, the quiet admittance that no Magic world has integrity or identity, worlds can be flanderized into tropespace at the whim of WotC, Morph can be overwritten into something else. Nothing really matters.

As of MKM there is no past, we only exist in an eternal present. Magic is not a series of unique worlds, Magic is not a game with history or integrity, Magic is a product to be exploited with no identity or character of its own.
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>>94407893
I'm just gonna use my printer* to make any card I want
*latest fad gizmo
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>>94407462
In general EDH players are very risk adverse, which is why they went for free damage on you instead of attacking Meren, especially since Meren generally can bring things back pretty trivially meaning they'd be poorly traiding. However
> I can "win in one turn if I get set up"
They weren't wrong. It's trivially easy to make Rafiq swing for lethal and become unblockable. They either leave him alone and you kill everyone or they remove your commander which cripples you. It's the main flaw of the Voltron strategy because the outside of removing a few of your enchantments and equipments there's not a way to deal with you in ways that don't completely take you out of the game. You'll either have to run even more protection and interaction or take the deck apart, because this scenario will happen again.
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>>94406796
>What was the most disappointing set of 2024?
MKM
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>>94407422
Mentally ill post.
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>>94408409
he's right
it's the official color of trannies
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>>94408413
>randomly blurt out something you are obsessed with when no one was talking about it
>"B-B-BUT I'M RIGHT!"
And still mentally ill and obsessed.
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>>94408421
just saying
timmy and johnny are white male chads
spike isn't
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>>94407189
Doesn't look anything like a blaxploitation poster. Are you ok?
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>>94407893
>Magic is not a series of unique worlds
Never has been.
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>>94407032
Amatsu from Monster Hunter for Eluge please
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>>94407893
>As of MKM there is no past, we only exist in an eternal present. Magic is not a series of unique worlds, Magic is not a game with history or integrity
If you only think this as of MKM you are several years, bordering on decades at this point, late to the party.
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>>94407893
If magic had unique worlds then you wouldn't have people who freak out about any non-fantasy aspect being in a plane.
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>>94407727
>>94404390
>>94404170
Yes, I hang out with my dad on Saturdays/Sundays and then come home. Watched some college ball on saturday while sorting my booster box from Foundations and eating food, then today me, my mom, and my dad just watched the Bills shut down Kansas City. Shit was cash, out of the games we saw, I predicted (guessed) the outcome of 4/6 of them. I went for the Bears, the Steelers, Bills, Lions, Patriots, and the Vikings. Admittedly, my favorite teams are Steelers, Lions, and Bills so those were the only ones I was invested in.
Now that I'm home, I'm gonna be working on a new deck to start filling out a new slot in my roster, Liesa, Shroud of Dusk. Lifegin + Angel tribal, aiming for a bit lower power than a Giada-led deck but she'll be in the 99 since I pulled one from my Foundations box.

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10132693/angels_of_dusk
This is the preliminary list of just stuff from my Foundations box + a Whip of Erebos I had laying around in Coram and wasn't really using.
I am confirmed retarded for not realizing there was a new thread. I'm most of the way through the first iteration of Liesa by now, feeling out Angels. Not sure where to get more black in the deck etc.
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>>94407180
No idea if it's good or not, but I just started magic and I pulled Tiny Bones from the pre-release event, so I'm gonna give it a go When I get enough cards to make a proper commander deck.
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As we approach the Holidays, I'd like to remind you that Santa has appeared on a magic card.
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>>94408733
i forgot dr who had planechase
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>>94406796
Bloomburrow. I knew MKM was a shitty hairbrained idea from the moment they explained what it was. I had no expectation for it to be good. Bloomburrow was set up to be an all time classic. But in the end it had less playables than MKM or any other mainline set this year. None of the tribal pieces were strong enough to push the Bloomburrow tribes out of the gutter in EDH and none of the mechanics were all that good. Duskmourn, which everybody spent the whole year overlooking for Bloomburrow, was a WAY better set in the end and somehow constructed a more interesting plane.
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>>94408865
Lots of bloomburrow cards see play everywhere you're just bad.
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>...
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>>94408865
You know you're supposed to make bait believable right? Being blandly contrarian is kind of boring.
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I’m back from my mtg hiatus. Probably gonna trade in my bulk to a buy-list and grab some cards to fill out a new deck. What’s a cool new commander? I want something unique but not too difficult to pilot.
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>>94408902
I was hyped for Bloomburrow and it didn't deliver. That's all.
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>>94408865
You can't dislike bloomburrow because I literally want to fuck animals in pet stores
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Ban mana crypt in vintage
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Which Legendary Pirate gives off the same vibes as this dude?
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Straight Bolas
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>>94409037
closest they've got I think
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Fourty (40) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
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>>94408902
NTA but how is that bait?
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>>94407400
thanks anon. your list looks a lot more aggressive than what I had. out of curiosity, how many times do you typically cast thromok? It looks like your pattern is do damage with tons of tokens and then maybe kill your final opponent with a single fling.
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>>94408710
>https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10132693/angels_of_dusk
>not a single tutor
>average cmc over 3
>lifegain as a theme when commander damage exists
>angel tribal
>a bunch of nonangels
>overcosted "ramp" like patchwork banner, urza's incubator, and herald's horn
>massacre girl for no reason
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>>94409217
>thread bitches when you use tutors
>bitches when you don't
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>>94409222
>thread is all one person
trips wasted on a retard
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>>94409222
I'm glad everyone in the thread is the same person
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>>94409070
nta how is it not?
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>>94409222
fuck off retard
>>94409217
stupid autistic complaints
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>>94409226
>Anon doesn't know what consensus is
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>>94409234
>able to prove a consensus between an unknown number of people with no means of confirming their opinions except for anonymous posts
wow you sure showed me fucktard
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>>94409232
>Can't answer
Yeah, I figured.
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>>94409241
>NOOOO I AM TELLING YOU THE THREAD DOESN'T HATE TUTORS
Majority do. Sorry, get over it you whiny little uppity cuckold afterbirth of a chinese whore..
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>>94409245
I accept your concession.
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>>94409250
>Majority do
Prove it
>the rest of that overly edgy teenspeak
kill yourself, faggot. Tutors are a perfectly viable part of the game.
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>>94409245
>Can't answer
Yeah, I figured.
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>>94409070
People get mad if you don't like the furry set even though it wasn't very good in terms of staples, powerful cards, story, or anything else. But it had animals that retards here meme about wanting to fuck. So, you can't dislike it.

Duskmourn>Outlaws>Bloomburrow=MKM
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> Why is edh set up like it is?
>40 Life
>more than in other formats
>100 cards
>more than in other formats
>singleton
>more variance than in other formats
>4 players
The whole point of it is that it's supposed to be harder to kill your opponents and harder to consistently get your stuff going
>every retard who hates what edh is about:how can I circumvent these rules?
>tutors
>poison
>infinite combos
>etc.
Go play something else.
>but I suck at everything else and can't pubstomp and I don't want to get pubstomped myself
We know.
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409265
409070
Samefag
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>>94409266
the concept behind edh was to use your draft chaft in a casual environment bc all of your actually good cards were in your real deck that you were using at the 1v1 tournament you were at
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Murders at Karlov Manor was actually a good set and gave me several of my now favorite commanders
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Your winrate for edh matches should be around 25%. In case you were wondering.
You're playing against way weaker decks if you win more often than that by the way.
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>>94409271
You're weird and absurdly defensive over a mediocre set.
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>>94409281
No u. Duskmourn sucks.
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>>94409271
>So upset I thought Bloomburrow didn't live up to the hype he's imagining other people as me
Control yourself bro. I'll be playing the MKM surveil lands for the next decade in every deck I can. I might still be using... maybe three cards from Bloomburrow by then?
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>>94409217
Has to be a bait post desu
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>>94409358
>it's bait if i dont like it
put your trip back on
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>>94409370
>>it's bait if i dont like it
Literally yes
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>>94407893
>the little hitler 'tache on the guy
Work of art
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>>94409217
>>lifegain as a theme when commander damage exists
>>angel tribal
Gee I wonder if angels have some kind of effects that trigger on life gain...?
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>>94409398
look at that deck and you can try again, retard
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>>94409319
tl;dr
Who asked?
Keep seething, u mad. Kill yourself.
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>>94409403
>lifelink lifelink lifelink
>if you would gain life effects
What is he missing?
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>>94409666
>like 4 effects
wow
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>>94409266
frankly, this is an edh problem, and not a player problem.
i find it very suspect when people make a game and create a bunch of rules, and then throw a shitfit when someone follows those rules and makes something they don't like.
it would be pretty easy to ban cards with tutor effects from edh. it would be pretty easy to get rid of infinite combos by ruling that "when an effect of series of effects occurs in the same order repeatedly X times, those effects cannot be activated or trigger again this turn" or even just "infinite combos end after the first cycle" or something similar (i'm no rules writer so you can't really hold it against me that these are inelegant and not wholly functional).
it would be easy to ban poison, or double the number of counters necessary, or any number of other things.
Why do you make chess and say "you can use any pieces you want, even 15 queens, as long as you have 1 king" and then get mad when people use 15 queens?
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>>94409682
I'd say roughly 20 cards specifically care about gaining life. You're retarded and have given yourself braindamage
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>>94409731
t. tripfag defender
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>>94409731
t. retard
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>>94409731
>20 cards out of an entire deck
>this is the theme
lmao
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>>94409693
What's the point of those rules? Trying to circumvent them makes you a smoothbrained retard. People want to play their garbage shitpiles and don't want to have a retard like you tutor his wincon on turn 3 and end the game. Make your own format with 1 life point and decksize of 2 cards. Or play cedh
>I'll lose every time against cedh decks...
Keep seething
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>>94409760
i'll just play edh with my edh legal deck, thanks
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>>94409760
>use legal thing
>this is a bad thing
why aren't tutors banned, anon?
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>>94406796
Really? No one's gonna say it? Guess I will then. MTG Foundations. You had ZERO (0) Masters level sets chock full of expensive desirable reprints so this big "5 year long rotation" set is basically the big kahuna of the year in terms of desperately needed reprints. And guess what? THEY BARELY DELIVERED ANYTHING WORTHWHILE. The most expensive regular border card no alternate art is Doubling Season, currently $23 presale at time of writing, cratering slowly from its $40 previous pricepoint. WHERE ARE THE DUAL LANDS, WHERE ARE THE TUTORS, WHERE ARE THE REMOVAL STAPLES, WHERE ARE THE EXPENSIVE CARDS THAT HAVE DODGED REPRINTS FOR YEARS (I'M LOOKING AT YOU ANCIENT COPPER DRAGON)

FUCK MYSTERY BOOSTER 2 WAS A BETTER REPRINT SET AND IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE TO 0.1% OF THE PLAYERBASE. GIVE BEGINNERS SOME CHASE CARDS TOO. I just don't understand the logic...
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>>94409797
>new print of Exquisite Blood with two strong tribal supports
>an "any number" card
>doubling season
>swiftfoot boots
>a new black removal staple that is more powerful than Blasphemous Act
>Aurelia the Warleader
>Menagerie reprint
>Dreadhorde General reprint
>Coat of Arms but better
>Omniscience reprint
you're whining about fucking nothing
>Ancient Copper Dragon
fucking lmao
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>>94409774
And you'll win only 25% of the time, right or are you only playing against weaker decks? We both know the answer, you little bitch faggot. Lmao
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>>94409831
you can't pick the decks for others and not everyone can instantly determine the power level of every deck
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rats>hare>apostle>slime>dragon's approach>mill faggotry
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>>94409823
wow, all shit under $40 before they were reprinted... waste of reprints
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>>94409845
>reprints bad if im a broke faggot
could've just said that
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>>94409217
>no tutors

*Gasp* are you trying to tell me that someone wants to...different games to feel different?! *Gasp pant* Inconceivable that someone wants to have fun in the for fun format of a trading card game! *Sob sob* Don't they know the goal of 100 singleton played between at least 4 people is to make your deck as fast and consistent as possible?! *Weep gasp pant*
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>>94409849
>reprints I already had a playset of
How about you read and understand what people write with inferred context???? Why would I care about broke bitch level reprints???
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>>94409855
>reprints bad if they arent explicitly good for me
kill
yourself
retard
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94409854
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>>94409855
>????
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>>94409693
>It would be easy to ban cards and change rules

This is objectively not true. Ban cards? Massive playerbase shit fit over "muh investments muh worthless cards". Same pissfest with new rules. They couldn't even errata a couple dozen old werewolves with outdated rules 99% of the people who play the decks would love to see updated to match the Daybound gimmick of new werewolves, which would be a common sense uncontroversial change that would affect 0.001% of the player base. You think them banning Mystical Tutor and saying Infinite Combos can only trigger twice or thrice would go over well? What delusional fairy land do you live in to even think that? What a delusionally stupid argument.
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>>94409894
then ban them for your table. it's not really my problem what wizards is or isn't willing to do, but if we're talking about edh, officially, all those cards and interactions are legal.
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>>94409855
>>94409845
>>94409797
Jfc retard PROXY. JUST FUCKING PROXY. ARE YOU ACTUALLY RETARDED?
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>>94409747
Yeah? Lands and mana alone usually only leaves you with around 50, handful of draw and removal if you have enough should leave you around 30 remaining give or take, obviously numbers can vary depending on needs of a deck, double duty, on theme removal/draw but yes
>>94409736
>>94409733
You can easily count it yourself ^.^
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>>94409864
>>94409871
>explain why I want expensive reprints
>wotc employee gets triggered
>"RAHHH YOU SHOULD JUST BE GRATEFUL RAHHH"
Fuck. Off. Reprint. All. Cards. Above. $40.
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>>94409922
I feel bad for you if you genuinely think you explained anything
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>>94409922
Hysterics and hyperbole will get you nowhere retard. Use proxies.
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>>94409266
>tutors were never used in EDH before
Tutors have always been a part of EDH. Get over it.
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>>94409914
aaaand now you're banned from the store.
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>>94410020
this didn't happen by the way.jpg
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>>94410020
>>94410076
Cops were called, lethal force was used.
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>>94407032
could you do a merfolk token. onegaishimasu. literally mermaids, but we haven't gotten any cute gills yet.
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>>94409797
I'm actually disappointed by foundations too, but luke warm take: there's some solid low powered staple reprints that are cheap foils. Swift foot boots, overrun, abrade, garruk's uprising, random elves, ext. No one is really talking about it much because its not exciting, but in a year these foils will be back up to 5 or 10 bucks or whatever.
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>>94410076
>No shop bans proxies
????????
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>>94410089
I use my instant transmission and avoid them. Free.
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How would you go about building this guy? Proliferate and extra combats come to mind first for me.
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What's the commander equivalent of the 2024 USA election?
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>>94410379
>Have EDH night at the LGS
>New guy shows up
>His deck is Pure SOVL
>Their decks are the Same Slop
>Everyone laughs at him
>He pulls off an incredible victory
>They seethe about it all week
>Other people start to build SOVL decks
>EDH becomes more fun than ever
>Slop players are enraged at this
>EDH night happens again
>Pure SOVL vs the Same Slop
>Slop blatantly cheats
>She draws a bunch of extra cards
>SOVL points it out
>Other Slop players defend her
>SOVL appeals to the judge
>Judge says he won't allow him to appeal
>Watching SOVL players complain to shop owner
>Shop owner bans them from the store
>Slop wins
>They gloat like crazy
>SOVL goes home
>They still seethe about that time he won
>Almost no SOVL players are left to play
>Slop players make fun of SOVL players who got banned
>EDH Night again
>SOVL comes back
>He has a new deck
>It's a Same Slop deck
>Slop vs Slop
>He wins easily
>They seethe about it
>SOVL players ask him why he's a Slop player
>He says that SOVL decks are dumb
>He makes fun of the ones that got banned
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There is an occurance i have notice maybe not just in MTG but in games in general. Why is there always a group of very loud people who try to make a tryhard competition in casual settings? Like they have competitive games and formats, why bother the people who just wants to play what they like and for relaxed fun?

And i have read the counter argument and it's frankly shit. Sure you think winning is fun but we all know there is a different between making a rat and attack vs combo out before anyone has played their 3rd land not that it matters as nobody was prepared with counterspells anyway.
Is it all just an egodriven glory hound thing? You need easy wins to fulfill some kind empty life or what is driving these people? Like i don't understand them but i want to.
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>>94409823
>Coat of Arms but better
I think it's worse because it requires you to already have a big board to do anything and be worth the mana cost. So it's only good if you're already doing well and especially awful after a boardwipe while coat of arms can still buff your creatures as you rebuild.
Door of Destinies is probably a better investment unless you play tokens.
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>>94409823
>Coat of Arms but better
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>>94410573
>>94410598
If you aren’t playing Coat of Arms as a finisher, but rather keeping it on board so it can benefit other players incidentally, you are the retard sorry.
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>>94410598
....rude
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>>94410607
I mean obviously you don't play it too early or against other tribes that go wider. But that's also that makes the card fun, you have to think and time things a bit rather than just modern design of slamming everything onto the table like a retard because they removed all the feelsbads from the game.

Was thinking of dropping in banner of kinship in my raccoon tribal deck.
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>>94406796
>TQ
id like to say MKM but that would imply I had any hopes for it at all, so my vote is DSK. There was clearly two totally separate teams working on it because the monsters are genuinely almost all fantastic aesthetically but the second you get to any of the survivors it all goes to shit. That and the story was utter dogshit, but that's par for the course at this point
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>>94409797
>The standard set didn't contain cards not good for standard
>I am offended and appalled
The intellectual might of /EDH/ never ceases to amaze
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>>94409266
Wow i skipped this before I went to bed but I want you to know you're retarded and have bad opinions.
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>>94410560
It must hurt to wake up this big of a faggot everyday and knowing you can't do anything about it
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>>94410624
The way you would seek to play coat or banner are 100% identical you fucking pseud nigger
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>>94410917
Oh coat is also way easier to just mindlessly slam down so you're double retarded kill your fucking self
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>>94410917
I play Coat of Arms in a control deck that barely runs any creatures because of the synergy with Changelings. Most go-wide players don't want to swing in on me because they want to keep the bonus, and I have fogs even if they do.
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>>94410954
>i play coat against retards and that allows me to play it in this unique way that 99.99999999999% of coat players aren't
Cool? You realize this does not matter at all.
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nuts status?
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>>94410978
It's not 100%, and it matters a LOT because Banner doesn't interact with your opponent's creatures at all and you have to play it after you build up your army instead of before. It's also a static buff, so you're shit out of luck if your opponent kills your creatures in response to you playing it.
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>>94408865
>schizo headcanon
meanwhile in reality bloomburrow gave us tons of great cards
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>>94410910
Congrats you're the king of the retard ball pit. Go play a real format loser.
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>>94411071
Im sorry but I, like a rational adult, see 99.99999% and understand that that is how it is used and that outliers (especially ones that can only arise when playing against retards with a low IQ) have no bearing on reality
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>>94411103
I do though lol. I play EDH, that's a real format. Do you realize how embarrassing is it to sit in a thread for a game you don't even like?
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>>94410560
this is why I try to win with worse cards than my opponent. it also reverses the arms race, making more varied decks which is the point of a 100 singleton anyway
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>>94411154
>anon persists with his larp that is logically self defeating
You hate to see it, the egos in /edhg/ are scary
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>>94411168
are you the guy who said my opponents are not worth it if they lose with better cards?
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>>94411181
That would be the logic that defeats this retardation.
>i showed up to a gunfight with a knife and won
>so what if my opponents were all invalid it's still impressive!
This is what you are (attempting) bragging about anon
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>>94411216
this is assuming you know who my opponents are. I exclusively play with my friends who all have played longer and are better at the game
I've lost so many times due to plunders which I rarely see from their side but once in a blue moon I when I manage to eke out a victory I actually feel something instead of just stomping over with their FIRE design cards that snowball out of range by themselves if not removed immediately
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>>94411261
If they are better than they are never losing to worse cards. So again your options are either
1. You are beating retards which doesn't make it impressive
2. You are only ever winning when they all collectively make massive mistakes again, this is not impressive.

You concocted this larp in an attempt to display how good you are at the game without actually thinking about the implications of said larp. Stopped reading after that sentence.
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>>94411154
>reverses the arms race
There's no such thing as a reverse arms race in a competition like this. So you beat "better" decks with your worse cards. So what? You think those players are going to say "Oh man, my deck wasn't good enough... I need to put some worse cards in it."
No, they're going to step on the gas and power creep upwards.
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Wish Gargos had better art choices between his default and the one alt art he has cause both are pretty bleh. Anyways here is my pump spells Gargos deck. Need to cut down to 100 and then I'm gunna probably slot in 3-5 more (read:actual) ramp cards. Cheers yall have a good one

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10138624/gargos
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>join casualEDH lobby
>some dude plays discard
>everyone fucks his face
>he cries and moans and leaves
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>>94411141
You make a lot of assumptions anon. There is nothing at stakes though? So why be competitive in the only format that allows for casual play cards? It's like the people who try to be competitive in Super smash bros by turning off all the fun features.
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are boros tokens fun with gut, or is rakdos the way for her?
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>>94411356
>lots of assumptions
No you made it quite clearly you do not like or respect the format lol
>only format that allows...
No? You can build a casual deck anywhere lol
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>>94411369
No i didn't, stop making shit up. No you can't lol....
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>>94411292
actually, what defeats your larp is the realization that card strength is not the end all be all. You are a bad player so your ego won't allow you to admit skill actually exists which is why you're conveniently ignoring it as a factor in your tirade.
A person can be a good player and still lose to a more skilled player who's using a worse deck. Get bent.
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the reason mkm and otj were fucking bad arent that they tried to lean into a genre its that they completely failed to include any of the things that make the genre compelling because of a fundamental lack of specific creative vision behind them
stuff like "thunder junction has no actual inhabitants" concept doesn't just fail at avoiding the western tropes people don't like, it instantly locks you out of like half of the most basic thematic beats of literally any western, such as "a stranger walking into the bar and mistrustful locals all turning to give them surly looks as the tension starts silently rising." That is like the most iconic western stock scene and you can't even do that in Thunder Junction because there are no 'locals', just Recognizable Magic IP Characters on holiday playing fancy dress
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>>94411353
why are all discard players like this? and they always make the stupidest argument too
>w-well it's to stop your deck from going off b-bro dinos are scary!
as if that's somehow justification for turning the game into a snoozefest and then they wonder why everyone hates them
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>>94411302
oh I should have specified that it happens when the other player realises they lost because they are becoming the target first and the player going under the radar won
>>94411292
>If they are better then they are never losing to worse cards
well, that's just wrong. ever heard of being the underdog?

to both of you, this is usually how it goes
>one player about to combo
>counters get spent
>next player is trying to win on the next turn
>removal and other resources get used
>while they were fighting each other since I was no threat I can now go ahead and build my shit in peace and interaction is easier to dodge since there is less of it
>sometimes this is enough to win
it's not that they could have had the choice to keep more removal for me since they would have lost otherwise before and their hand was forced (mine included)
sometimes it doesn't matter if you or your cards are a little better than one of your opponent's because there are 2 other players also
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>>94407180
You will draw tons of hate. Players want to play the cards they cast/ slot into their deck, they dont want you to.
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>>94411398
The implication of downgrading EDH to "not a real format" is very clearly anon. And most people are not trying to get into tourneys and are more than happy to play more casual decks
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>>94411436
>these sets are bad because...well I personally don't like them!
very compelling argument, anon
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>>94411439
He tried to convince me to attack the other dudes cause I had like 10 creatures with
>the other 2 are gonna kill you if you kill me!
Told em to declare blockers
>YOU ARE GONNA CRY WHEN THEY BEAT U
I mean, I lost but I came in 2nd. I had fun.
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>>94411447
People treat edh as they do any videogame
half the fun is breaking the format and getting salty over that is immature because after all it's a casual format right nothing matters? so people should be allowed to fuck shit up with their broken cards cuz it's a clown format anyway right they shouldn't be forced to play low power right?
unless...you do actually care about losing which is the real reason why you try to drag everyone down to your level
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>>94411459
omg the discard retard I used to play with would pull the exact same shit. Everyone would always focus him because he was the biggest politicsfag always whining his decks were weak while being the most annoying faggot at the table
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>>94411448
MKM is barely a detective story and Thunder Junction fails at literally any western story beat.
It's completely possible to tell a good murder mystery set on Ravnica and have that be a good and fun set of MtG cards. what you can't do is be NCIS AND Sherlock Holmes AND Clue AND Tom Clancy AND Agatha Christie AND Dick Tracy AND try something as stupid as 'detective typal'.
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>group gave up playing magic (mostly because of edh
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>>94407462
Wouldn't take it personal, some people just have terrible threat assessment.
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>>94411476
dang dood, what did you play before?
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>>94411471
The best part was his stupid commander was a board wipe. He was basically playing stax. And you better believe he had bounces for the retarded ETB.
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>>94411448
>>94411474
Writing a detective story means you need to make me CARE about the crime. fuck, look at the murders. zegana (fine) some new guy they made up (who cares) and teysa karlov (double ultra extra who cares with sugar on top). OH NOOOOO the ghosts magic woman in charge of the ghosts magic guild has been murdered how consequential. like if these are murders make them murders.
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>>94411491
You sound impossible to please so I'm gunna go out on a limb and say no one should care to cater specifically to you. It's a serviceable detective story
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How would you react if a player in your pod sets a timer on his phone at the start of the game and concedes exactly at the 1 hour mark (if the game is still going or he's still alive) every single time you play with him?
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>>94411353
unless he was playing Tergrid he could have been feeding the graveyard deck with his deck.
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>>94411514
Based, long games and those that enable/encourage them are unbelievably boring
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>>94411365
RB if you want an actual sacrifice deck
RW if you just want to hit people in the face
RU if you're a stone cold nigga
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>>94411482
Honestly the decks werent that bad. Non edh constructed is shit now and they didn't like the one ofs fucking their decks over.
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>>94411514
based, disingenuous retards will reply with
>well if you don't like your friends why play
we are playing magic, instead of watching a movie because we want to play magic
having more games of magic and therefore more variety is vastly more entertaining than playing a single game for 4 hours. If everyone collectively agreed to only play 45 minute games all those retards who are like
>noooo your deck is broken because you run vampire tutor in your ur dragon deck!
would stop complaining, because they'd win more. By pure virtue of playing more than one game a week
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>>94411607
even pauper? jk, I know it's initiative hell
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>>94411514
Depends on if i play with slow playing retards or if he is just averse to a long game regardless of reason. I've scooped once or twice before when I noticed we were an hour in and everyone had only had two to three turns
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>>94411514
Gay, what if we're 5 minutes away from wrapping everything up with a fun and exciting ending and dude just dips out. Would kill the tables energy for the rest of the night, and most likely future games with Clock, Master Of The Hour. Just finish the game
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>>94411627
having longer games of magic and therefore more quality is vastly more entertaining than playing a many games in 4 hours. If everyone collectively agreed to only play 4 hour games all those retards who are like
>noooo your deck is broken because you run stax in your jank deck!
would stop complaining, because they'd win meaningfully. By pure virtue of grinding more than one hour a game
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>>94411514
Depends if he leaves the store afterwords.
If the guy only had a set amount of free time I would be fine, but if he is some autistic retard who views more games played better than the quality of each game I wouldn't want to play
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>>94411673
>and therefore more quality
at least make an effort with your shitposts
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the people who cry about games being too short are those same niggas that run out the rope in magic arena trying to figure out what land to play.
Just play your cards, bro
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>>94411684
>you gotta play to win or there is no point
>you gotta play fast making a bigger chance of losing
so which is it? play fast and lose or play slow and win? pro tip: I don't get to play fast and win
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>>94411628
>pauper
>initiative hell
they banned every initiative creature that was 4 mana or less, only avenging hunter (used in gruul ramp/cascade) and goliath paladin (used in some reanimator/midrange deck) are left
tier 1 is monored and affinity is the second strongest deck
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>>94411720
play to have fun
I'm not mad if I lose as long as I manage to do what my deck wants to do
edh/commander should not be a tryhard format
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>>94411734
oh, that's when I stopped
I know this is the wrong thread but what did they do this time for affinity?
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>>94411673
>My games are better than yours because the guy that's already favored to win cast his eleventh board wipe
Watching paint dry takes forever too, that doesn't mean it's entertaining
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>>94411679
NTA, but the most fun and enjoyable games ive had have been over 2 hours. Having a constantly changing board state, must answer threats, clever use of instants, having your life tick down to the single digits while still having a plan for victory, etc. When all that is happening mutiple times in the same game it leads to a good time, at least IMO and the other players in the game. First thing everyone says after long games like that are "Damn, that was a great game!", and it obvious thats their genuine thoughts on the game. Your results may vary I suppose
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>>94411760
if you can see losing from a mile away you can always scoop
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>>94411777
But anon scooping before the game hits the three hour mark is gay
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>>94411790
But anon winning before the game hits the three hour mark is super gay.
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>>94411514
Good. I'm tired of people complaining that fast games are bad games. Just because you took 20 minutes to do your turn 3 win doesn't mean it's any better than a 20 second turn 3 win.
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>>94411758
they printed another affinity card, plus krark-clan shaman can function as a boardwipe with a spell that gives him deathtouch+lifelink for one mana
deck still dies to monored which is the boogeyman of the format even after they banned monastery swiftspear last year
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>>94411832
Will they ever reprint the artifact land? Kinda sucks that pauper is mainly focused around 20 year old commons.
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>>94411832
>mh3
should've guessed
all I remember hearing about that set for pauper was some 2 card eldrazi combo. did it now work out?
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>>94411840
seat of the synod got reprinted in jumpstart foundations iirc
hopefully they won't make more since mh2 bridges are everything the deck needs
>btw I turn my indestructible land into a 3/3 flier, good luck if you don't have anything that can exile
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>>94411845
sadistic glee combo is still legal but it will probably eat a ban this December
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>>94411514
If he’s doing that because he’s only got an hour to play and then had to leave for personal life reasons it is what it is.

If it was just to try and guilt people into ending the game faster, I’d target him with everything I had to hate him out of the game as quickly as possible and then take my sweet time until the games actual conclusion. That way I can maximize the amount of time he’s sitting there doing nothing.
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>>94411505
>whodunnit is impossible to identify beforehand
>culprit faces zero consequences beyond vaguely losing some money
>does nothing with ravnica's central concept (guild conflict) beyond establishing The Azorius 2
>basically nobody who died mattered at all and one of them returned like five minutes afterward
have you ever read a detective story in your life
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>>94412051
Only one of these points has anything to do with a detective story's quality and even that point isn't relevant. That's not necessary it's a story not necessarily a puzzle
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>>94411505
It’s really not though. The only plot point of any interest is Zegana getting killed and it’s barely a footnote. But the BIG crazy thing is Teysa getting killed… just to come back as a ghost, say “Uhhhh so THAT just happened”, and go back to doing her job like normal. As a detective story it sucked ass

And the mechanics were largely shit too. Morph with a new coat of paint, suspect and collect evidence were both whatever, and the focus on detective tribal was completely retarded. The only good thing that came out of it was Cases were fun to play with and some have some staying power, but they also put too narrow of a scope on it so they’ll likely never see the light of day again. Should have called them Mysteries so they could have had the same staying power as Saga ended up having
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Nonfoil Glissa the Traitor prerelease art printing when?
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>>94407050
Arcanis, the Omnipotent
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>>94412091
>detective story
>not about a puzzle
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>>94412159
Collect evidence was pretty good, solved a lot of Delve's problems, but the fact that it has the stupid tropey set-specific name means it's not coming back. It's the same thing with crime, perfectly fine batching mechanic but the dumb name means it's trapped in otj.
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>>94412223
It doesn't get more old school fantasy wizard than that.
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>mfw my timmy ass drops Akromas Memorial on Turn 7 and turns everything to the right
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>>94412566
>anon is retarded
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>>94412585
thanks.
>turns creatures back
blocks?
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My friend is building a Raffine deck. While building we have issue with consistency. We do run Curious and stuff like ponder. Any idea what to add?
Deck itself is a reanimator + control.
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>>94412566
Based.
I drop this guy whenever I have the chance, even if it has directly caused my own death more often than not.
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>>94412973
I fucking love this card and keep thinking about where to slot it. Now that I'm trying to throw together a Warriors/Cowards mono-red shitpile, maybe it's time

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10137654/winter_warriors
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10132693/angels_of_dusk
Both of my "new" decklists are finished, now the last thing is to try to figure out a single Grixis/Dimir Commander I find fun enough to keep around to build with a friend.
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>>94412939
Cheap evasive creatures? 1+2 drops? His ability itself will let you loot into consistency because it's a completely broken card.
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>>94413038
I like Marvo. Clashing is fun
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>>94413129
clash with this *unzips cock*
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>>94413038
Just throw it in any deck you can cheat it out in, preferably by gambling like cascade. That's what I do
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>>94412600
no takesies backsies
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NEW SECRET LAIR DECK WITH 20 WAYS TO WIN
BUY IT BEFORE IT'S GONE
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>>94413231
I will pay to win
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>>94413231
Shrines are going to spike again.
It's not even good art.
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>>94413196
Not a bad call, maybe I'll find a slot for it in a deck like that
>>94413129
Marvo seems neat, he was one of the weird ones I considered for sure. What kind of balance of high cost cards do you put in it for optimal clashing?
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>>94406831
They wanted to make morph better since creatures without any sort of protection have gotten a lot weaker since morph's inception, but instead of making it a base rule that all morphed creatures have ward 2, they decided to make a whole new keyword.
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Post your latest deck. I won't bully, I just like seeing what you guys have been working on.
This is mine.
https://archidekt.com/decks/10092445/bugs
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>>94407022
Just run all the shit that draws when creatures enter or are cast, if you're constantly getting flooded, the cost of zendikar resurgence won't matter and it'll spread your mana twice as far.
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>>94413038
Runo is pretty fun, it runs fine with or without the sea monster tribe as well
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>>94413313
idk if this counts but I rebuilt my morph precon to play against a beginner tomorrow. they have just bulk and are still learning so I wanted something low pow but I feel it's still gonna stomp
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I can't decide which sets I want to buy for Black Friday man, I know I know, singles, but it's been so long since I've cracked a box I might go for Foundations or Neon Dynasty and just see what I can get
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>>94410292
If you can, probably ways to move counters around. Extra combats can be tricky and attacks can be difficult to get safely through depending on the board, so putting ways to give him charge counters before he attacks probably wouldn't hurt. Blink isn't a bad idea, neither are haste enablers like rising of the day.
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>>94411086
This but unironically. The calamity beasts were all such well designed cards, every single one has been a blast in commander, with the exception of MAYBE Beza, who's better in the 99 unfortunately.
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>>94413313
Gargos posted above. Just put it together last night/this morning so I gotta refine it but seems like it'll shape up to be fun
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>>94408865
Guarantee this is the dude who played the rhystic frog but his pod sucked and didn't play cards so he never drew off it and dubbed it bad
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>>94413495
nta but I'm here. if people are playing on curve to dodge it that easy wouldn't that make the card bad tho
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Is mono color more fun than multi color?
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>>94406796
>TQ:
Modern Horizons 3.
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>>94413409
Was Neon Dynasty any good?
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>>94413553
Depends. Mono blue? Nah. Mono white? Yes
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>>94413670
really liked the limited of it. I hate the channel lands tho
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Found this card in a pile someone left at the LGS, looks neat, how do I build it?
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>>94413838
Nice etbs and sac outlets. An edict creature gets to trigger twice thats good value
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>>94413851
Edhrec page makes it looks like people use her to win with poison counters and proliferate etbs... seems kinda funny not gonna lie
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>>94413838
what do you mean. can you not read the box? it tells you pretty explicitly how you are supposed to build it
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>>94413876
I'm more familiar with cards that do the thing and draw cards
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>>94413862
>Npcrec
Why bother
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>>94413862
Yea that seems like it would be fun as well
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>>94411601
>an actual sacrifice deck
what's the general winning strategy of "an actual sacrifice" deck? ETB burn and blood artist effects?
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>>94413954
Don't forget keeping the board clear with dumb value pieces like Grave Pact, Reaper from the Abyss etc.
You just want maximum value from things dying and a lot of guys to die
Gut can notably convert treasures into dudes to die as well, so RB treasure aristocrats could be fun (is there already a better commander for this?)
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>>94413980
tough decision then. I'm lacking both a nice token and an aristocrats deck.
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>>94414029
>tough decision then.

How did Modern Horizons 3 end up as the most disappointing set of 2024?
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>>94414064
I thought that was MKM
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Took a suggestion from /edhg/ and put together a deck to cheat out dragons with Cruelclaw.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/weasel-into-it/
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>>94414095
I thought that was OTJ
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>>94414103
Take out crucible of fire, it's a shit card. Also put in worldfire. If you're hoping to cheat out dragons, put in more shit that helps cruelclaw attack, like stuff that makes him unblockable or unable to be blocked by more than one creature, and take out the cost reducers. Also, haste enablers are good, like rising of the day. Warstorm surge isn't really needed and won't help you come back from an inevitable boardwipe. Some graveyard recursion might be good as well, since you'll probably be putting a lot of dragons in yard.
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>it's a card game devolves into making "engines" and players take 1 hour to finish their fucking turn
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>>94413129
Shame about the colors. He'd be perfect in my Kiora, Sovereign of the Deep deck I keep trying to make work. Pretty good chance to win most clashes with all the beefy creatures in there.
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>>94413851
I run it in Clavileno. Those 1/1s end up becoming 4/3s because toxic is scary. She fits in with the vampire tribal too.
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>>94414307
Meant for >>94413838
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>>94414104
OTJ at least did some cool stuff mechanically, and was overall just "nothing" on flavour. MKM's flavour was actively bad and its mechanics were underwhelming.
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Behead those who insult bloomburrow
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I kind of wish gift was an evergreen mechanic. Kicker but gives your opponent stuff in return for stronger spells is a great idea.
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>trying out new shitty Renari deck at a low power table
>some guy just tutors for a Peregrin combo asap
>i manage to delay it a turn
>the entire table just twiddles thumbs until his next untap and he wins

I swear my primary problem with EDH is that if I pack enough interaction to deal with the occasional pubstomper I wind up usually being the bully of the table against actual low powers. I could go play at higher power tables but usually those are just the same cast of commanders that I'm bored of.
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>>94414372
especially good for commander while not being as oppressive in 1v1
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>>94414128
Thanks for the suggestions.
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I haven’t played EDH in a while, since before the walking dead cards at least
Have any legends come out since then with interesting / fun effects? No quipshit flavor text would be a huge plus
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>>94414649
I'm always gonna say Toymaker
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>>94414340
I admit not even FIREd up morph could save it. at least it had surveil lands
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>>94408865
Bloomburrow fags are completely insufferable
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>>94406796
I really want to build a Krenko, Mobile Boss deck, but everybody I talk to says don't do it because he's too much of a target. Is it a bad idea to build a krenko deck?
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>>94414754
krenko but jam a ton of redirects so when they try to spot removal him you just obliterate their commander instead
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>>94414763
since when does a red deck leave up mana especially after casting the commander and not comboing on that same turn?
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>>94414778
sure tap out and get krenko plowed, have fun :)
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>>94414778
krenko but have six mana and use four to pass with two
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>>94413670
Kodama of the West Tree, Jinny G Progress Tyrant, Channel Lands, The Wandering Emperor, it's a pretty decent set for EDH. I just love the flavor of Nezumi and Spirits and Foxes. Plus the Full Art Lands are a Chef's Kiss from me.
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>>94413670
it was the most popular set in a while
think bloomburrow either slightly eclipsed it or was around the same
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>>94413670
Very actually
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What are good reasons to play edh over Standard?
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>>94414914
standard isn't a joke format with eternal rotation you have to go to an lgs for
and if you want to play it "officially" you have to pay for the real card
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>>94414914
100 card decks are more fun to play with than super optimized 60 card decks
Also there's almost ZERO restrictions on card pool compared to Standard rotations which are all focused on meta so card prices are far more competitive there than in EDH where 15 of your key cards are all worth nickels
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>>94414626
I only took a cursory look through it, looking again i can see you already have some good recursion in there. Reanimate is one I'm surprised isn't there, same with living death. But yeah, take my advice with a grain of salt, ESPECIALLY with worldfire. That's the common meme people run with cruelclaw, and you'll likely get hated off the board, if not the table entirely, if you run it because MLD makes people seethe
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>>94414921
>standard
>not eternal rotation
even if you meant the opposite, edh also has eternal rotation just like modern with it's direct to format sets
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>>94414972
not if you play with a non-faggy pod
and I meant "eternal rotation" as in "It rotates eternally" not that it has eternal set legality
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>>94414914
not really other reason than it's cheaper
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>>94414914
Easier to find edh games.
Easier to find people to play along with your random shitbrews.
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>t3
>drop a 10/8 fatty
>t6
>I have already used my 10/8 fatty to deck myself and ram-throughed a keldon battlewagon into someone for 200 damage
I fucking love being a timmy so much
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>>94414967
>Reanimate is one I'm surprised isn't there, same with living death.
I was working with what I had on hand. Worldfire definitely doesn't fit my pod, but it is pretty hilarious nonetheless.
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>>94415109
Last time I played Grothama I won on the stack through two different removal spells which I think is funny for mono-G.
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>>94414649
I'm just sticking with the food theme.
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You will never touch my cards
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>>94415109
How:o
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>>94415186
Weirdo
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>>94415186
that's what sleeves are for
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>>94415186
im going to intentionally aim my metal dice rolls at them
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Now that Universes Within is dead, it is morally correct to make your own Universes Within cards.
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>>94415365
Here you go bro
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>>94414914
you can bring a shit deck to a commander night and have lots of fun
you cannot bring a shit deck to the majority of other formats
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>>94414914
EDH is the only multiplayer format, and multiplayer is a lot more fun to play casually than 1v1.
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>>94415424
You can technically play any format multiplayer, it's just uncommon.
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>>94415365
speaking of which, is there finally a way to make HD custom cards/proxies with MSE?
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>>94415447
Free for all used to be very common before EDH, but it's not a proper format like EDH is, and the gap between a deck designed for multiplayer and player using a 1v1 deck in multiplayer was insurmountable.
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>>94415301
Kek
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Someone didn't link the last thread to this thread so when I found this one, I was already behind 120+ posts >:(
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>>94415679
Nevermind my stupidity
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>>94413838
put her in a green or white deck and start populating those tokens. Alternatively, run her in a rakdos commander and steal opponents creatures and sacrifice them, exiling them forever also and giving you the creature.

You also have a backup in nightmare shepherd.
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>>94413670
>Neon Dynasty was the set responsible for the card Farewell, the strongest White boardwipe of all time
Yes
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>>94413670
no, because everyone was bothered by the cyberpunk
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>>94414862
It's still, I think, the best-selling Standard set ever (Foundations will PROBABLY outdo it just from longevity, and maybe Bloomburrow has already but we don't know the numbers).
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>>94415931
lol
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>>94413740
what's wrong with the channel lands
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>>94415931
Not only was it the most popular set since 2010 it was also the highest selling set, and its mechanics and (most) of its world was really well liked.
Pretending it's anything but the best in every metric is pure contrarianism.
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>>94415972
lies. People want fantasy and wizards. Not scifi
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>>94416009
you got fantasy and wizards in mkm and it was shit
a topic does not make something inherently good or bad, bloomburrow had fantasy and wizards and was not far behind kamigawa
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>>94416017
>bloomburrow had fantasy and wizards and was not far behind kamigawa
stats for this showing bloomburrow doing so well?
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>>94416027
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/767517693205250048/
>Bloomburrow did very well, and, as I like to say, success breeds repetition.
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/762368460214976512
>Bloomburrow is doing very well.
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/761714782490542080
>I'd rate bloomburrow a 2 [on the rabiah scale], I’m very optimistic of a return.
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/761073411281797120
>[Bloomburrow's] success breeds repetition
>https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/759924250813579264
>[Bloomburrow starter kids and edh decks] are very popular, we're printing more of them.
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/759536662922543104
>The reaction to the set and world have been strong, so that helps.
and an early one from august where he says it was very popular from the start
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/759361037885718528
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Which Dimir Commander should I build?
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>>94416180
marvo can be very powerful or a meme depending on how you build it
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I need some better win conditions for this commander. Aetherflux is pretty bad in this deck surprisingly, usually because I'm not storming off that hard
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>>94416213
triggering once a turn makes this feel so lame to try and use, you have to get a weird mash of cantrips/cheerios and high cost bombs then just pray that you hit the right thing? or do tons of scrying/sensei top effects to stack the top of your library to cast shit for free? 6 mana commander doesn't help much either
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>>94416072
So...no stats?
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>>94416180
which one would you take out on a date?
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>>94416180
>faggottaste/10
Whichever one matches your Double Dragon Dildo retard.
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>>94416180
Grimmy the Timmy
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>>94416257
Stop trying to fit in
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>>94416180
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>>94416249
>erm, why don't you have WotC's internal sales data?
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>>94416270
Calling out bad taste isn't an attempt to appeal to other people on this board, stop projecting.
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>>94415194
>t1+2: mana dorks
>t3: drop a grothama
>t4: enchant grothama with predatory urge to draw 20
And then it just goes off from there. An easy pump interaction is to use Grothama to make a Mossbridge Troll into a 25/25, and then tap and untap him a few times with cheap creature's like Scryb Ranger or Seeker of Skybreak to pump Keldon Battlewagon. Effects like skullspore nexus, which is always going down for 2 mana, make it easy to then double it up into an insane amount of damage. I really should remove Keldon Battlewagon since it's really just a meme, but using it with Ram Through gives me a green version of Fling which I find really funny. Or another route is to play a Vigor, which can pump your entire board by Grothama's power every time they try to fight him. It cascades up from there since every bit of damage prevented to Grothama is pumped into the next creature, so you basically buff Grothama by all the power on your board and the other creatures by his current power when they step up in line
The main drawback of Grothama is that he's a double-edged sword that everyone is either going to want to exploit or remove from the board, but at 5 mana I don't have much trouble recasting him. There's a few cantrips to keep him safe as well
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>>94416314
Being needlessly aggressive is.
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>>94416231
6cmc no protection is the worst hurdle but the ability is each turn. So instants and flash effects let's you use it more often
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>>94416378
I'm sure it can be seen that way, but it doesn't necessitate
>trying to fit in
I'm sorry you were ostracized before, and that aggression makes you uncomfortable. Have you tried manning up about it?
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>>94416440
You go first
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>play a five colour deck
>either I brick like hell, or I'm dominating by round 3
is there a way to get more consistency? I'm playing slivers.
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>>94416512
No basic lands, all dual or tricolor lands only
Have tons of fetches/land ramp cards
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>>94416563
I think I have like 1 of each basic land left, all the rest are dual lands or lands that generate anything.
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Post your favorite card art
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>>94416582
I love these cards and they've pushed me to focus more on mill in my Mothman deck.
How do I add enough artifacts so I can use the time sieve too?
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>>94416619
Just look for something that makes clues, food, treasure, junk, or blood tokens.
Hell Piper can get you a bunch of clues if she has enough power
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>>94416213
>>94416231
Displacer Kitten and every other card is a non creature
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>>94416729
Piper was one of the first cuts I made when upgrading. She was too slow, useless if I didn't have her in my opening hand and even then I could never crack the clues because of needing to use counters or removal instead.
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>>94409840
>can only have fun when he defeats noobs with his deck that is way too overpowered for his pod
Nta, he called it, I guess. Really embarrassing for you.
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>>94416848
nta but assuming wanting an even match means pub stomping is why no one should listen to retards who talk about stomping.
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>>94416865
>assuming wanting an even match means pub stomping is why n
Try again after learning how to speak English, pajeet.
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What's the secret sauce for him? Just as many unblockables and curiosities as possible?
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>>94416785
Tireless tracker is the best generic one, but Lonis, Genetics Expert works best with Mothman
Havengul Laboratory or fleeting memories might work.
Lazav, Wearer of Faces is a two drop that can graveyard hate or get value later, but of course mothman would rather ramp early than play a two drop
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I'm baking a new one. We're at page 7 and I want to start some conversations that won't die to thread migration.
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>>94416885
If you are doing sac things with altar of dementia with Mothman there are a lot of things that make treasures or clues when something dies.

Lonis, Genetics Expert and Havengul would be the best as Lonis makes them fast with Mothman while Havengul is a use for the clues if you don't find the extra turn spell
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