Previous: >>94388280>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://mtglands.com>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQDid Foundations actually convince someone you know to try Standard?
Gay Bolas
>>94397273>TQWhy would it? There aren't any Foundations products for beginners.
>>94397307>There aren't any Foundations products for beginners.>Literal beginner box>Literal starter collection>Entire set is designed to become cheap as it will be printed to hell for 5 yearsyes, yes there are anon
Anyone got a decently functional Slivers list? Mine never seems to get going, I wanna compare notes before I spend money upgrading.
What are good effects to get multiple uses out of Uvilda's ability in a single turn? Also what spells would be fun to chain together for massive advantage?
>TQIt did when it was announced but the standard-legal UB bullshit convinced me the other way around.
>>94397370I dunno man, I've had a lot of Sliver decks but I wouldn't have ever called them functional.
>>94397273>TQYeah I played elves, got manhandled by dimir removal tribal and promptly went back to edh
>>94397338I was going to dunk on you, but got dunked on instead. Why the FUCK are they calling them Foundations Jumpstart Decks when there's a product called Foundations Jumpstart and the Beginner Box only has cards from the normal Foundations set?
>>94397338>Entire set is designed to become cheap as it will be printed to hell for 5 years99% of the cards won't be played in 2 years because if they don't power creep those cards how are they going to sell sets?
>>94397418Poor naming choice and cards in the actual jumpstart packs aren't standard legal
>>94397273>Did Foundations actually convince someone you know to try Standard?I don't feel like visiting 70 shops in a 50 mile radius to find a shop that does standard. Mine does not.
>>94397419By putting the power crept shit in non-standard legal product.
>>94397370The most functional you can build it is by putting overlord at the helm and tutoring for morophon asap. After that you can do things like fetching sliver queen and basal sliver for all kinds of combos. Effects like pic related make it stronger. If this sounds boring that's because it kinda is. However, slivers allow you to run like multiple different commanders depending on your mood, so if gets boring you can always swap your commander with any other legendary sliver or morophon.
>>94397273>Did Foundations actually convince someone you know to try Standard?Yeah, it was a good starting point to jump back in
>>94397427I knew that,which is why I thought the Jumpstart decks in the beginner pack weren't legal
>>94397458Then how do you sell standard sets?If you say just make cards bad for standard but good for other formats then you have the issue of people stuck with a format that doesn't changeFoundations is great but most cards will be not played in two years
>>94397577They will be.
>>94397273>TQYes, one person is excited to build 60 card Krenko, and one wants to do life gain with the combo vampire.
What are some good wincons for mono blue? Building Eluge right now and aside from just making him unblockable and hitting someone in the head repeatedly, I'm not sure how else to win. There's thoracle and lab man, but those don't feel like actually deserved wins.
First time buying a custom deckbox. Aaron Cain. Ebony and walnut burl with wendge trim.
>>94397717Nice!
>>94397717Neat. I like to buy weird unique deckboxes. I have a TARDIS box, Ghostbusters Ghost trap box, and a box shaped like a haunted house.
Here is your secret lair broAlso working on Nemata and Rebel token if any one got a request just (YOU) me.
>>94397767uh, yeah, I got a request: neck yourself
I won a game tonight woo
>>94397788epic. For teh win
I wish I got to play commander more than once a week
>>94397656You blink him a bunch and then cast a bunch of extra turns or powerful spells
>>94397807I haven't played since before the bans :/I think I'm becoming nogames
>>94397656>bluethoracle is boring do battle of wits!
>>94397767Can you do an edit of Eluge using Amatsu from Monster Hunter>>94397838>thoracle is boringYeah that's what I said. >do battle of witsI don't think that works in EDH anon...
No
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>94397717Nice. Now let's see Paul Allen's deckbox.
>>94397767>Marina Vendrell>it’s just some generic anime girlpathetic
>>94397950I found Bateman's. Apparently "return some tapes" is code for "play commander."
>>94397796I was one mana short of winning and then realized I had a treasure halfway through my opponents next turn.
>>94398125There's no greater pain than realizing you lost because of a mistake you made
>>94397370First Sliver snowballs like a motherfucker, i have a friend i have played probably over 100 games with who has used every single legendary sliver as his commander and he settled on the First as the most efficient. First Sliver deploys a huge force onto the board really fast and is also good at rebuilding if he ever gets wiped. He also has profane tutor as the only 0cmc nonland card in the deck, so he gets to cascade into it every single game in order to tutor Hivelord and make his board indestructible ASAP
>>94398256Hate slivers
'ate slivers'ate eldrazi'ate elves'ate dragonslove me zombies
>>94397413>>94397469Disappointing but I appreciate the candor.>>94398256First Sliver and Sliver Queen are the only legendary ones I don't have, I'll have to look into picking him up. Much as I love my boy Overlord maybe he's better off in the 99, he's not exactly an explosive effect.>>94398338>'ate sliverscringe>'ate eldrazibased>'ate elvescringe>'ate dragonscringe>love me zombiescringe
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/fc8R4W8B602VugesRPK-CANeed help making cuts for this. Think I may have too many counterspells and removal, and not sure how good hard control is in 4 player. Added a bunch of theft effects because they seem kind of funny, especially if I steal commanders.
>>94397273I tried standard a while ago, it was bad, though foundations did have a lot of cards I liked.
>>94398363I saw the commander, closed the link, but saw the deck name as it was closing and opened the link again.Blatant Thievery feels like it gets you the three best permanents in play, but that's only if they're evenly distributed and none of them are yours. You've got a lot of piddly one drops to make Eluge unblockable and I don't really think that's relevant. Run Thieves' Passage I guess but hitting people with a 6/6 commander isn't worth a piece of cardboard. Aquitect's Will is cute but really not worth it. I get you want your attack triggers for flood counters but running some artifact tutors with things like Dolmen Gate seems more reasonable. Quicksilver Fountain would very much be worth it because even if you end up losing all your progress it fucks with people and rebuilds quick. I'd cut basically all your flicker shit on similar grounds. Counterspells are just as good at stopping removal and far more versatile. Overall I'd cut back on ways to help Eluge get flood counters and have a few more splashy spells to take advantage of them being 1-3 mana cheaper. You also need to think about how your deck actually wins, because right now you're on operation "beat three men to death with a fish" and I played enough Scout in TF2 to know that's a tough sell.
>>94398449>right now you're on operation "beat three men to death with a fish" and I played enough Scout in TF2 to know that's a tough sellFuck, that got me. Yeah, I don't really have a wincon right now, I asked for suggestions earlier in the thread but didn't get much. Kind of why I'm going for more theft effects, at the very least I can stop other people from doing silly shit. Any clue what I could do to win? Only options I can see right now is just combos, but I hate combo wins.
Thinking of building this guy. What would be some good things to throw in?I'm aware he's an un-card. My pod is fine with it.
>>94398481shit that lets you make more copies of midnight clock, ideally cards that are noncreatures. Saheeli's artistry, cackling counterpart, mechanized production, etc.
>>94398474Unfortunately combos are the easiest way to go over the top of whatever other people are doing. If you get enough card advantage from casting ponders and mana leaks while Archmage Emeritus or Archmage of Runes are in play then you'll be able to brute-force it after a while. Token spam with Metallurgic Summons/Shark Typhoon/Murmuring Mystic/Talrand can also get you there, but they suffer from being unable to do anything on their own and not feeding into each other.My closest deck to this is Kalamax which is a mix of izzet spellslinger and pump spell tribal trying to beat people to death with Kalamax. I guess worst case you can run Psychic Spiral and a few other ways to shuffle your graveyard into your library and then literally card draw people to death. Lacks panache but a win's a win.
>>94398502Yeah, guess so. I cut out most of the crap you said, I need one more cut. Any suggestions? I'll start looking for some kind of mill combo as well, since that seems at least more interactive than just spamming extra turn spells.
>>94398363You should add "the flood of mars"
>>94398578No, it's shit. It's slow, easy to remove, and doesn't do much on its own. Wasting the attack triggers on pumping my own lands is a waste of the flood as well, and if they can't attack for any reason, then they're just a waste of a slot.
>>94397469My brother runs Overlord and stupid shit like pic related
>>94398640What does he target it with?
Unban him now
>>94397767Can you make it so text don't cover the tits and make the tits bigger?
>>94398677He's boring and his cost is basically nothing
Why are the bloomburrow precons expensive?Also is the duskmourn delirium deck really bad because it's cheap?
>>94398362>CringeBased>BasedBased>CringeBased>CringeBased>CringeCringe
>Human>Cleric>Angel>Token>Lifegain>Mono WhiteOh yeah, it's game time.
>>94398713You're boring and basically nothing
>>94398755Accurate
>>94397895Who's the based guys?
>>94398769Koth and Urabrask
Best equipment for chatterfang ? I like running anduril flame of the west . Maybe ill run a conquerors flail too .
>>94398790Fishing Pole
Is this a good concept for a deck?Lotr elves, lots of scrying, put stuff on the bottom of the deck until you find the One Ring. Get a lot of burden counters on it, digging further into your deck until you hit a Donate or similar card, then give the Ring away with 9 or 10 counters on it.Is this good/bad? unfun due to lack of counterplay and unsuited for casual among friends? I'm new to mtg.
>>94398779Thank you.
>>94398879It's not great considering you can give away creatures and enchantments that make the opponent lose the game instantly
>>94398790Sword of the squackHelm of the HostBloodforged Battle-AxeScepter of Celebrationwould be my suggestions
>>94398481Blink/flicker stuff and removal tribal. There are a lot of resources for him on the historic brawl websites.
>>94397767Why are you using this weird kiddy frame? Just use the normal frames. You ARE using MSE, right?
>>94398879>Is this a good concept for a deck?>LotrNo
>>94399042it's autism fetish. easy readability and bigger colorful symbols makes for good stimmies
>>94397796Congrats
Anyone play pic related in Henzie? I'm unsure if it's a fun one to slot in. In the case I draw a decent hand but get him as my 5-drop, I can blitz gitrog on turn 3 and sac Henzie, drawing 3 and getting 1,75 lands on average on the board as ramp. This seems passable at best. However if I draw it anywhere later, I can possibly blitz a creature alongside it, sac the blitzed creature to it, netting me an extra draw on top of the sac value, which'd be a great ramp + draw effect.Also not sure about Greater Good and Evolutionary Leap. I feel like I rarely get value out of Evolutionary Leap, and Greater Good always seems too expensive when I could be blitzing another creature
>>94399073>Greater Good and Evolutionary LeapI like birthing pod or birthing rituallife's legacy is a one off version of greater good but cheaper.Tarrian's Journal is okay and for once the sorcery speed restriction doesn't matter
>>94397378untap auras I guess
>>94399073Aclazotz and Ojer Kaslem are nice pseudo ramp and potential creatures later
>>94397378Wrangle so you untap it
>>94398538You ruined your deck off the suggestions of a fag anon
>>94399140I have slotted Birthing Ritual and Life's Legacy already. I've never actually drawn Birthing Ritual somehow, but I trust it. Missed Tarrian's Journal, that's a pretty good card.>>94399208Ojer Kaslem has been serving me well. Aclazotz is pretty good, but I'm not really going into discard apart from Archon of Cruelty, which I feel weakens Aclazotz a good bit.
>>94398658Opponent's creatures, to use the "gain control of target sliver effect". Amoeboid changeling works too.
I really like playing archetypes outside of their respective colors. So far I have mono-blue stompy, what else should I build? Is mono-black burn any viable? Any other ideas anons?
>>94399420If you wanna be creative and unique probably the worst thing to do is ask others to do the lifting for you
>>94399425I'm just asking what's generally viable I can fill in the rest
>>94399420Mono black burn is a pauper deck, but in edh you would just play mono black, golgari, or orzhov life drain combo
>>94399359>get dragged into game by smug normalfag friend who constantly pretends he is some high IQ gigabrain>never even wanted to play a fucking card game>start building, testing and fleshing out decks, up to 4 decks per month>goldfishing for hours on end per deck>absolutely demolish him and friends every time we meet with a new deck>"anon, I don't want to play commander anymore, let's do pauper">crush him in pauper too with such ease it's not even funny>join LGS nights to play against him more>never finish with a lower score than 2:1 over the span of one year, using only one deck that I don't even update>friend comes back to commander after accepting that he wasted his youth pretending to be a pro magic playerI hate this game so much it's unreal, but I hate my normalfag friend more
>>94399452>anon larps on 4chan about how bad a friend he isWeird decision
>>94399452this but>the commander/card game = life>friend = dad>deck = hussle>pauper = retirement>LGS = old folks home
>>94399469>anon doesn't understand male friendshipI would kill myself if I was that lonely
>>94399495NTA but you sound like a cunt.
>>94399495I don't think you do either if you think it's being a massive fag, whining incessantly about your friend and doing everything you can to ruin his time.
>>94399495should've used the /s
>>94399452Anon, if you're serious, this is kind of on both of you. If you're underage then the lack of maturity and communication makes sense. But if you're anything past your early twenties, it's on both of you for creating these frustrations.Your friend should've been more mature and, probably begrudgingly, accept that he's not as clever as he imagined himself to be, and maybe ask around for advice & help.And despite writing it yourself, you seem like the bigger immature asshole here.>Crush friend and friends in games (assuming the other friends don't enjoy this for some reason)>Not offering your friend any support with deckbuilding & piloting>Not simply telling your friend he might've gotten a big head and he should chill down, and then offering out to help him with that>Stating you hate the game, yet for some reason still playing it?You're adults, right? If you give a shit about your friends and maybe enjoying this game, communicate your grievances and slights. Tell your friend that his behavior was frustrating and admit that you weren't exactly supportive either. Recognize where you both went wrong and try to build towards having actual fun in the game and with each other.If you need any advice on this, feel free to ask.
I want a new gimmick deck, but nothing's been hitting of late. Recent decks are>ball lightning tribal>changeling tribal-tribal>sticker voltron>curses>reassembling skeleton tribal>threaten tribal>gates
>>94399534Can't say why. You seem to be easily amused with shallow "lol look the text matches" piles.
>>94399540Yeah, I enjoy going all-in on one strategy, but not an explicit tribe like goblins or elves. It asks you to play less goodstuff and more cards that match the strategy.
>>94399430case in point
>>94399545there is a card in every color that you can have more than one in yo deck
>>94399452>friend casually enjoys game>retardanon spends every hour making and curating decks, researching the game etc>has no self regulation>ruins the fun for everyone>comes to 4chan to bitch about itShocking
>>94399564yea shame on me for asking people for ideas, I never said anything about being unique you stupid nigger you said that. you sound like such a faggot
>>94399499>>94399500thanks fags, I do my best to keep it real>>94399529>You're adults, right?we're in our early 40s>If you give a shit about your friendsI do, I play magic with them 2 times a week since two years now
>>94399597You don't have to explicitly state you want to be unique when the very idea is that. My suggestion would be to look at each mono colours legendary pool (using scryfall) and note the ones that seem to stick out to you ^.^ for example I find Aeve to be quite a unique mono green legendary, mono green storm is cool! Maybe Dosan stax I'm not sure! But there is an easy way to find legendaries to build around for your purposes
>>94399625>My suggestion would be to look at each mono colours legendary pool (using scryfall) and note the ones that seem to stick out to youLiterally what I've been doing before and since I've asked the question. Instead of being smarmy why not just write this post the first time?
I unironically play ratsand end my turn
>>94399634Because i come here to talk about magic but also to vent my rage so I don't beat my girlfriend. She thanks you for your service anon
>>94399652this but omniscience0 cards in hand. commander doesn't draw
>>94399495Have you considered just doing it anyways?
>>94399534>Sticker voltronPlease post your home address. I want to send you something.
>got a Voltron death board>everyone else struggling like crazy>anon plays Blas Act AFTER looking at my hand to steal a creature>play heroic interventionSKill issue
>>94399742I tend not to run it often, because it's a little sweaty. Once you get your commander to a certain point the win becomes almost inevitable.
>>94399430Mono black burn is doable, gotta build it as big mana with things like crypt ghast, nirkana revenant, doubling cube etc. Could build it with Maga, traitor to mortal at the helm so you have burn in the command zone.
>>94399787no he's shit. just play torment of hailfire and tutor it, that's way more fun since you can then play card advantage commander
>>94397717Etsy has a pretty damn good variety of deck boxes, worth checking out. Theres actually a lot of cool custom MTG related things you can get there
>>94399799>big spell win gameCringe
>>94399799>burn>torment of hailfireHuh?
>>94398790Stoneforge Masterwork
>>94399825that's what this format, no, this game is for>>94399838yes, literally has fire in it's name too
>>94398879How do you plan to kill the other players? Seems too slow regardless. Id be swinging at you hard because it would be obvious your tryin to pull off something sneaky
>>94399847And yet it is in no way a burn spell
>>94399825>Not criticizing the do thing draw card generic valueCringe
>>94399825tutors are a way worse offender fag
>>94399825I seriously hope you guys don't unironically use "cringe" in the current year of our lord.
>>94399902I speak however I want because im a grown man and i don't let terminally online fags influence me
>>94399825>responding to dubs with single digits>not even a funny getbruh
>>94399902Athematic wincons that can be crammed into a random deck are cringe. It's the most express word for the concept.
>>94399042its close to the new anime cards from foundations lol, but with matching color text. A simple meme for the magic player.
>>94397956it got a key in her neck lol
>>94400003>ITS CLOSE TO OFFICIAL DOGSHIT SO MY UNOFFICIAL DOGSHIT IS OKAY
>>94400018Its a way to expose what wizards is doing it to itself also good fun. Dont worry you will never see a altered proxy in your pod.
>>94399495Is>I hate my friendsthe millennial version of the boomers'>I hate my wife
>>94399978she was askin for it
Dude goes infinite with himself, one of the easiest to build commanders I’ve ever seen, and most likely will never be allowed to resolve
>>94397273I went to commander last night with my nephew and we were paired with a Troon at some point. Both of us misgendered him. I did not mean to, but part of my wanted to fuck his cute little boipussy.
>>94400268You just throw him in the 99 and resolve 2-point dragonstorm
>>94400268>Dude goes infinite with himself, one of the easiest to build commanders I’ve ever seenAre you new?
>>94397378Don't be gay, just play Jhoira
Are shrines fun?
>>94400357Do you like enchantress? If yes, the probably. If no, then no.
>>94400357do you like slivers? if yes, then propably. if no then no.
>>94400357They're one note and kind of boring imo
>>94398362Here's my Sliver deck. I think you're going to have the general issue with Slivers all the time that they get hated on hard and are tough to bounce back after a board wipe. I've been using Gravemother just for the graveyard effect, but First Sliver is undeniably the best.
>>94400441Forgot the link. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-skittering-horde/
What is a good replacement for Myraid Landscape in Red-Black-Green?
>>94400459A basic, a fetch, a shock, a pain. Just run more ramp if it's an issue.
>>94400459
>>94400471>Just run more ramp if it's an issue.I should have clarified I was told this is a bad card and I'm not sure why?>>94400478I already have this card.
>>94400357If you build them just don't do 5c.The best shrines are all in sultai
>>94400491>I should have clarified I was told this is a bad card and I'm not sure why?It enters tapped, so it's slow even for a colorless source. Then you have to pay 2 to get two lands that enter tapped so it's EXTRA slow and on top of that, it's not even any two, it's two basics of one type. It's just not very good. I would rather have a standard basic than Myriad, even in a three color deck.
>>94400357yes as long ws you accept after you win once people will focus your shrines even when you are not the treat. Also you can use the aura thief ± enchanted evening combo, wich feels great if you pull it out, btw dont use tutors you will buy a lot of cards anyway.
>>94400491If you don't know why, you aren't playing in situations you need to worry about it. Keep playing games. Most players are bad at Magic so worrying about suboptimal card choices is just needless anxiety.
>>94400502>>94400515Thanks anon! I'll go search for some green efficient ramp cards to replace it precon its in.
>>94400311>just play Jhoirano, I don't think I will
>>94400452what drives people to play a deck that is nothing but the most unoriginal/obvious cards the pile could have. isn't it boring when the deck builds itself?or are these the guys mark was refering to when he said people don't want to build decks in a deck building game
>>94400541I like Slivers and have since 1997?
>>94400431I like the idea of "passively" doing stuff, though yeah, I guess the point of the deck is pretty straightforward>>94400495I feel like part of the challenge is making the 5 colors somehow work (even though it's obviously easier than back in the original Kamigawa)>>94400513>aura thief ± enchanted evening comboneat
>>94400558so you have had no imagination for over 25 years. it's very disheartening to see someone not improve ever
>>94400597I do have 30 other decks built. I'll admit straight out that there's no real creative way to build Slivers or, indeed, play Slivers. They're on the simplistic side of an already simple strategy. I eschew Changelings, at least, and I intend to replace as many new-style, one-sided Slivers as I can with classic-style, affects-everyone Slivers because that's how they're supposed to be.
>>94400441Why do you think first sliver is better than overlord? Especially when overlord lets you fetch morophon which makes most of your deck free.
>>94400620that's FIRE for you. no drawbacks, all upside, all the time
>>94400620Don't listen to him, this general is very combo focused.If you're wanting to win by damage through slivers just do that and put in what ramp/interaction/recursion/overruns you need to make it go
>>94400655I don't use Morophon, personally, because I don't use the Changelings. And when I did use Overlord, on more than one occasion it got stolen by an opponent who then used it to steal anything I played. I enjoyed the randomness the cascades more, but even so, I'm not using First Sliver, either.
>>94400729Fair, I hadn't really considered how much of a steal target he is.
>>94400722what does combo have to do with anything in this conversation. are you projecting?
>>94400597What is your most imaginative deck? nta
>>94400525But it's the same card with a fifth of the text
>>94400769?Both cards have full text boxes
>>94399534try to recreate a 60 card deck that you're fond of from first principles, so that the synergies are mechanical and build towards a gameplan, instead of surface level value pile synergies.that or try building a secret commander deck, where your goal is to find a card in the 99 and you build around synergies with that card, instead of your commander.
I cannot stop building tribal decks>insects>bats>angels>vampiresI love tribes
>>944007861. Reminder text doesn't count, obviously.2. Yours is 2 full cards.3. You're retarded for not being able to figure out 1 and 2.
>>94400824>Doesn't countit does, but ok>Yoursnot my commander or deck>*anger*chill out.
>>94400898No it genuinely doesn't because a card can be printed without the reminder text, your card cannot be printed with less.>I'm a different guy who is magically invested in this!Sure ^.^>angerNo, calling you dumb is an apt description.
>>94400913All I see is two full text boxes. Again, not my card or commander. Relax, sissy
Why are MtG players allergic to text?
>>94400944 witnessedit's the same reason why they keep building tribal deckslow IQ
>>94400756I am currently projecting. It's probably not combo specifically but the general is very much biased towards faster games. Typically when anons here say they want to do a greater than 4-5 mana commander or some niche tribe the response they get is the game will be over by then or combo player will pop off. Or that they don't have a wincon or are too slow.
>>94400525Your loss, enjoy one of the lamer spellslingers in Izzet.
>>944009444 player EDH games full of players playing multiple spells with full text boxes per turn, dozens of permanents with multiple triggered abilities constantly on the field, and players taking 5-10 minute nondeterministic turns that don't win them the game tend to be incredibly exhausting.lowering the amount of complexity per card makes the game more about strategy and playing around your opponents, and less about trying to keep up with your opponents autistic fidget toy of a deck where they're constantly rolling dice for attractions and resolving spells that copy auras that make something cost two less if mercury is in retrograde and taps to deal 2 damage to a goblin, which when damaged will deal that amount plus two to a random opponent, who then gets the top card of their library exiled, which can be cast until that players next turn if they pay three energy and sacrifice a permanent that has "ward: pull out an eyelash"
>>94400944Cause I wanna play mot listen to you read nerd
Am I the asshole for counterspelling someones mox diamond?>Captcha: XDKAY
>>94401086no but it probably wasn't a good use of a counterspell
>>94400820Same, can't build a deck without a tribe, or story to tell with it...
>>94401013Definitely helps if you play with limited people. I play exclusively with my friends, and we've come to know people's more played decks. To the point where, not quite silver bullets, but people will slot in interaction to counter specific strategies.>Lots of artifacts like treasures, slot in artifact-enters-tapped hate>Indestructible shenanigans, slot in more sacrifice or -x/-x>Teferi's protection and other protection, slot in trample and damage-can't-be-prevented effectsIt's nice, and we play varied enough decks that any silver bullet feels wasted over simply running more flexible interaction.
This should have been 1UW
>>94401679That card should be banned.Prove me wrong.
>>94401738You are wrong and you should prove why it should be banned instead since you are making such a stupid claim.
>stopped following new set releases >stopped obsessing over spoilers >stopped buying cards altogether >sold/traded the majority of my bulk that languised in boxes/binders.>happier than I've ever been since 2019Feels good to be clean, you bros should kick the rabbit too.
>>94401981Habit*
>>94401981If magic is making you genuinely unhappy you have much bigger issues than magic
>>94401981What about you only keep the decks you actualy play?
>>94401406lately i've been playing a draw-go deck where i just, sit around casting fatties, countering/removing peoples novel length value engines and threatening aetherize if anyone comes after me for retribution.its probably the most fun i've had in pick up games where i'm not with a regular group, genuinely think interaction is the key to it all.
>>94401981BUT NOBODY IS BUYING
>>94402236Aetherize looks nasty. Big fan.>Interaction is keyAgreed. When my group first started, everyone (excluding 1 guy) was new. When we eventually got beyond buying a precon and later upgrading it, one guy made an Arbaaz Mir boros deck that flickered a lot. Had a lot of protection, so Timmy strategies didn't really fare well. Timmy decks would hit each other, while the boros guy managed to snag a staggering amount of games before the group as a whole learned some basic threat assessment.Now, a while later, our decks actually pack a good amount of interaction and it's made games way more fun. I've made an Ivy Gleeful Spellthief deck and jammed like 20 pieces of interaction and a strong amount of draw in it. Looking forward to testing the waters for how much interaction is too much.
>>94401981Which rabbit card has kicker?
Wanting to make a deck with custom art I'll get printed on a proxy order themed around Warriors/Berserkers/etc themed around Warhammer Chaos Warriors (I'm fuckin baffled why 40k was chosen when frankly the Realm of Chaos and Warriors fits MTG planar lore far more). I'm thinking of going with Yidris Maelstrom Wielder as the commander for cascade, but what's a good way to go about making a thematic warrior tribal, or at least warriors, giants, horrors, etc - evil fighty things. I already turned my actual 40k precon into a Demon Tribal (hits like a truck frankly), but I'm not really used to tribals built around not spamming commander damage or poison.
>>94399600>we're in our early 40sFucking omega cringe
>>94401981K what hobby would I take up instead?
>>94401023>mot listen to youthe fuck does an ancient caanite god have to do with shit?
I am currently trying to build up an agatha deck that revolves around lands, animating them, and pumping them all up to kill them with overrun effects on creatures. any suggestions? sadly there's not TOO many payoffs for lands with large activated abilities, but still.also, open to any cards that are just plain good or fun with Agatha.
>>94397732Post you're tardis box. I bet mine is nicer.
>>94401679Should have been WWW
>>94402703It likely is. I'm considering getting a new one. The one I got was one of the only ones on etsy back when I got it. Now there's like 6 different ones.
>>94402637Kamahl, Fist of Krosa sounds like he would be right up your alley. Repeatable overrun effects weren't too common last time I checked and Agatha makes subsequent activations cheaper.
I dont know why but Yeva is my commanderfu. Does it really just hit you when you find the right match?
>>94402740Yeah, I have him in there. I want to make huge beat up turns with lands, since if I'm ramping out of control, the more mana i have to activate something that buffs everything, including agatha for the first time, which make it so much easier to get over the hump of activating them 10 times
>>94402724Don't worry, I'm sure whoever has the nicer dildo will fuck you both with it.
>>94402776No one is interested in your erotic fantasy
>>94402781My erotic fantasies don't include however many chins you have UBfaggot.
>>94402776rent free
>>94402788>MUH UBSeething
>>94402819fat people?>>94402826Yes playing with and embracing UB cards does make you gay.
>>94402849>Yes playing with and embracing UB cards does make you gay.Is this like some weird attempt at """"gatekeeping""""?
>>94402932More like “gay”avoiding a shitty community and pool of cards.
>>94402932no bro wizards made a post about it alongside the gay sex secret lair, they said "as a celebration to all of the lgbt gamers buying universes beyond product, which we explicitly made for them, we are releasing a gay sex secret lair", this is just a matter of record>>94402397aetherspouts, reigns of power, illusionists gambit and flatline are other lovely blue fogs. as another plus, if you develop a reputation for playing them, people tend to REALLY think about it before they attack you while you have mana up, blue is secretly the best color for fog effects.
>>94403159It seems utterly pointless.
>>94401913Player phases out and becomes untouchable, which goes completely against the game design and breaks the color wheel.
She's actually really fun. I was expecting to hate it since I'm not super into spellslinger decks.
>>94403280
>>94403290
>>94399815Thanks for the heads up, anon
>>94403280list?
>>94403280>80 dollar cardno thanks
>>94403412She half that on tcgplayer. I grabbed the foil bundle lair though so it was significantly cheaper
>>94403412?
>>94403419>lol every place allows proxiesMost don't.
>>94403433Then I guess you're not part of this conversation bitch fuck sakes
>>94403443But I started the conversation? The fuck are you talking about?
>>94403417Wow their prices sure crashed
>someone shows up with day night deck>has no clue how it works and doesn't have a way to track it
>>94403572I my only real day night deck is vadrik and I just have him in a clear sleeve with two printings and i flip him for day/night
Anyone every get custom coins or tokens made? Thinking about getting a gift for my friend who has a coin flipping deck he likes. Just wondering if anyone knows a quality site to order?
>>94403706>custom coins or tokensDon't get him trashy funkopop garbage, buy him an actual collectible coin
>>94402614I'm 53. Faggot
>>94403229Protection from everything is not phasing out
>>94403797
>>94403797You shouldn't be playing fantasy card games past 30.
>>94403828why?
>>94403751I would like something metal, and nothing engraved so it doesn't feel cheap. If there is a place like that out there, seem the top searches are for ordering coins with stickers on them.I'd imagine a coin with the blue symbol on one side and the red on the other. I don't think that is to funkopopy. I'm surprised no one sells things like those already.
>>94403839At 30 you're an old man and should be thinking about more important things like retirement and euthanasia.
>>94403828I do whatever I want BECAUSE I'm 53
>>94403866I don't feel sorry for you because you're a moron
>>94403866>Humans are old for 60+% of their lifeWhat a garbage species. Absolutely mogged by tortoises and sharks.
>>94403867>I do whatever I wantBesides get erections or have hair LMAO
>>9440387330 is not old
>>94403880I got news for you. So does your mom
>>9440388230 is ancient
>>94403828Most of the UB shit in the game is aimed at boomers>ghostbusters40 year old property>Chucky35 year old property>Jurassic Park31 year old property>Doctor WhoThe old shit is ancient.>LOTRBoomers and older millennials who saw the trilogy 22-25 years ago>Monty Python and the Holy Grail50 year old movie
>>94403892Yeah it's fucking pathetic that oldfags eat that shit up
>>94403891Do you ever wish you knew what the fuck you are talking about? Stop posting
Try as I might I just can't get her to work. Fun as hell but every pod I've ever played in just dumps on her as soon as she hits the board because without her my deck does nothing so I either have to blow all my mana and deck slots on protection and struggle to have the fun spellslinging or I get one turn of fun spellslinging and then she gets Monica Bellucci in Irreversible by the table. Why must we get punished for trying to run something that isn't a generic value engine?
>>94403900It's weird since you'd think the oldfags would be the ones who cry about UB. Since they are 40-50+ and played back when the game was the adventures of Urza the evil guy
>>94403907Or... Get this, you might not understand it the first time you read it, we just don't fucking care? Puzzling, huh
>>94403907Most oldfags have just given up and define themselves through mediocrity and meaningless consumption. Only a minority of them have the energy to remain principled
>>94403906if you don't answer her she blows up the board everyturnRun stax pieces and protection
What's a less popular commander or deck you like to play? Some shit like artist tribal or themed.
>>94403917>we just don't fucking careSad.
>>94403919I just met a man that created an 800 million dollar business in the middle of bumfuckistan, KY. You wish you had half his fucking gumption, mongoloid
>>94403933If you let someone else's fun impact you're, you might be autistic
>>94403937
>>94403941>you're, youOld man is having a stroke
>>94403944Believe what you want, I'm going to make friends with him! Find some Alpha packs and crack those bitches. Have fun being a hater for all igaf
>>94403937Wtf are you babbling on about?
>>94403954A misspelling is not a strike. It's a filter for pedantic faggots like you
>>94403959He said old ppl are fine being mediocre when this guy made his business go to 800 million in less than 10 years so figure it out. Something something context clues something something following a thread of replies etc etc ad nauseum
>>94403960>I was just pretending to be retarded!:^)
I'm starting to hate my local scene. If I win my deck is overpowered, brainless, boring, and/or too powerful.If I lose then my deck is very fair and just right and they deck took skill and finesse to pilot. Every time.
>>94403971Wtf are YOU babbling on about?
>>94403972>t. Illiterate bitch hole faggot
>>94403973Just stomp their asses until they shut up. They will eventually get better or leave the hobby
>>94403980ahaha the old man is grumpy now >:(
>>94403984Since 1984 and I was 13. Grumpiness knows no boundaries
when is the winter miku secret lair cooming out
>>94403973What are your decks?
>>94403973People in my pod call me a tryhard because I always dedicate 24-30 cards minimum to removal/ramp/draw and then turn around and bitch about how if they had've just drawn this card or that removal or just had one more mana they would've totally won. I don't even have high power RRD either, just enough to be generally effective on curve and help push my game plan along while the other tards fill up their decks with Good Stuff 6+ cmc cards they never get to play.
>>94404017you just need to explain to them that card draw is what win you games.I have lost too many games because people not letting the blue player waste their mystic remora
>>94403956>I'm going to make friends to get to their money
>>94403980Imagine talking like this in your 50's
>>94404037No, I'm going to get money tips from him. I've just started a new job and I'm meeting all these business men and they're fun af. They party like how we wished to in our twenties. Some of these guys started with NOTHING and are now millionaires and I'm going to do it, too
>>94404056You should cry about it more
What other commanders allow combat matters big beefers?
>>94400478I wanna do a landfall deck with a bunch of cards like these
>>94404155Well, it's easy to set up a deck that runs recursion and allows you to just cycle your lands and recast them for their tutor effect.But the question is what more you want out of the deck, do you wanna value out, or build board with the massive amounts of mana, or something else?
Where's Swordbro?
>>94404170he could be:>sleeping>playing the game>doing life things>realize he could post the same things without name fagging and people would still respond to him
>>94404151I play him as non-human tribal with a 'modified creatures' theme. It's not every day that I get to say, "Wow, Iridescent Hornbeetle won me that game." Plus you get the fun of flexing on people with an Uncommon commander.
>>94404151Godzilla
>>94397338God I hope so the idea of $5 Doubling Season singles makes my mouth water
What's going on with this lil' faggot? Nobody cared about him and his price slowly was descending into the abyss since release..., and suddently ppl remembered he was a thing and the price more than doubled in just a month??
>>94404733set is getting older, people didn't like the set, and maybe there is a new deck he is good with
>>94400311Do you happen to know how many must plays the doctor who shit added to Jhoira lists?
>>94404756>how many must plays>doctor whoZero.
>>94399534Take the Gristpill, anon. Grist + 65 insects = loads of fun
>>94404733never seen them under like 15 dollars
>>94404756A lot. If you can't handle Doctor Who then don't play suspend.
>>94404792you also have that new anime bug
>>94404808I was gonna look it up, but then I saw>1 – 60 of 768 cards where (the card is available on Paper) and the set is “j25”What in the UNHOLY FUCK??? 768 cards in the new set what the fuck is going on???
>>94399534Do a creatureless Xenagos.
>>94404811Jumpstart packs are not standard legal and Foundations is basically a core set that is supposed to last 5 years
>>94399534THE PILES
>>94404811
>>944048708 dollars? Lol anon, the *entire deck* cost me 11 dollars to make. I'm not dropping 8bux on a single card
>>94404857>not standard legalWhat is the fucking point in making these cards, then??? Didn't they raise a whole ass stink about UB and Foundations being the core of Standard going forward?
>>94404866this is straight up Hearthstone levels of stupid bullshit. What does his 2nd ability even work with?? What other cards even do this shit?
>>94404883>>94404866okay wow yeah didn't know this was so prevalent.
>>94404883There are a good deal of cards that involve guessing or putting things in piles. There was even one in foundations. The way I play mine is by cloning Toymaker and using effect doubling cards like roaming throne and Delney. Things get very out of hand if you have multiple Toymakers. It's fairly easy to protect Toymaker in esper, and he's a low enough cmc that I can recast him.He's fun. The pile thing adds a nice mind game to things. It can get a bit annoying though when you're doing it like 3+ times a turn.
>>94404909>It can get a bit annoying though when you're doing it like 3+ times a turnI have a Narci deck with like 25 sagas. I know what "annoying" feels like.
>>94404892I think I would enjoy such a game once and then I would be annoyed about all the piling and choosing.
>>94404873how did the deck only cost $11?Post your deck list
>>94404971printer go brr
>>94404971Search scryfall for insects in green/black that cost less than 20 cents, pick and choose cuz there's over 100. Congrats you're done. It's easy to build cheap decks, anon
>>94404990manabase is what gets you price wise
>>94404988then he wouldn't complain about price is he just proxies his entire deck
>>94405019Are.. you actually serious? 18 forests, 17 swamps. From my pile of cards sitting on my bookshelf. Not every deck needs to have a 100 dollar mana base, dude. Jesus.
>>94405024>I make another [tribe]>do the single thing on the legend>rinse n repeatseems boringalso only basics kneels to any utility land pile
>>94405019bruh it's a meme deck you're not gonna run your $20 dollar fetch lands. Anything more than like.. Command Tower/Path of Ancestry and MAYBE a few of those cheap ass gates is overkill.
>>94405034It's a joke deck for fun kitchen table magic with friends, not cEDH at the fucking LGS. Stop being so tryhard and learn to have fun
>>94405044so everything that is not mostly basics is cedh now? wow what a moron
>>94405044The reason to run multi color lands is to not be screwed color wise.
>>94405051You must be real fun at parties.
I have never needed fixing in a 2 color deck and still cast 4 pip costs like BBBB and WWWW in the same deck with no problems
>>94405093It is insane how people think you need some complex ass expensive mana base for 2 colors. Outside of >>94405038I run all basics every single time. I've never had issues with mana in any game I've played
>>94405054wdytwa?
>>94405024>a 100 dollar mana baselul, i've never had a manabase cost me less than 1K, i can't imagine playing your shitbrews.
I wish I had the balls to use tiddie playmats/sleeves/proxies
>>94405096>>94405093You are full of it, i always run full fetches + all untapped duals availible and even i have trouble casting triple same colored spells in 2 colors piles at times.
>>94405093>>94405096Very clearly false what a weird thing to larp about>my 100 card deck has no mana fixing whatsoever but I just trust the heart of the cards and have never been let down heh
>>94404733Maybe bcuz of picrel? I can see it snowballing out of control quite fast.
>>94405236>>94405238>he doesn’t believe in the heart of the cards NGMIBut seriously I was going through my deck lists and realized in every two color commander I only run about 10 dual/utility lands and the rest is all basics. Never really had an issue with them. The duals are all nothing fancy either. Most expensive one I use is the bond land which in commander, why wouldn’t you?
>>94405314>only a 3rd of my land base colour fixes hahaSo..... you don't only run basics and do colour fix and your post was a larp got it
>>94405319I’m not the original anon you were talking to. I’m just adding to the conversation. Sorry for riling up your tism more though
>>94405319>he thinks 10 is 1/3 of a land baseI found your mana fixing issue. You aren’t even running enough lands
>>944053661/3 bait. made me reply
>>94405366It is between a third and a quarter ^.^ I'm not a math guy is there a word for that? A thuarter maybe
>>94404733Zinnia
bring back basic land restriction
>>94405433The what now?
Why do angel cards have to be so expensive? AAAAAAAAAAAH
>>94405544Angels are one of the few tribes the female playerbase cares about
>>94405552I made 7 decks before deciding to make angels
>>94405544Because they're often also bombs/hatepieces in their colors, as opposed to other tribes that mostly only see play in tribal decks.
>>94403572I concede the moment someone plays any of the cards that require you to track stuff more complex than counters. That kind of shit is barely fun in a singleplayer game, it's insufferable in 4 player multiplayer.
>>94405570Sure but they're mostly consistently like $5. I've played plenty of good cards that are only a buck or two at most because they're so good that they become ubiquitous
>>94405574But you don't have to track it anon.... only the day night player does. You sound like a faggot lol
>>94404151
Looking to try Pauper EDH as mono white weenies. Curious to know if there are any hidden gems worth looking into adding to my deck.
>>94405568Who asked
>Run Goblins>Get told its brainless and the deck is annoying and cheap and wins too fast>No one runs any removal at all>Everyone complains endlesslyFrom now on I'm ONLY running goblins and making them either ban me or adapt.
>>94404811The idea is foundations will last 5 years but it's selling super well so expect to get a new one every year and then twice a year.They don't give a shit about the longevity or balance of the game, just that they can get more paypiggies to slurp up powercrept slop.
>>94406012>just that they can get more paypiggies to slurp up powercrept slopTrue, but foundation have literally zero (0) playable card in it kek. At this rate i'm not too bothered about the balance of the game when it comes to this set.
>>94406012But foundations isn't really full of power creep anon:) this is clearly a very concerted effort to revitalize standard but youd rather be a pissy faggot cause corporations exist
No one is talking about this but I need to be sure it works, if I have General Kreat, The Boltbringer on the field, and then I make infinite Conspicuous Snoops with Kiki-Jiki on the top of my library, doesn't everyone else get pinged to death due to Kreat's ability?This would also be true with Impact Tremors?
>>94406093Forgot pic
it's getting beyond ridiculous, when tf stores will finally order few boxes of jumpstart?? Every unco from the set is like $20 FFS
>>94406093>>94406095You are making infinite amount of creatures, anon. What do you think?
>>94406140>keeping a set designed to jump start a new player collection in print for new playerslmao, leave it to wizards
im i being to cautious when my highest mana drop ceatures are 4drops? i hate being mana screwed but i've had multiple games where i get a board just to be flipped by someone dropping some 7/8 drop win the game card
>>94406209make the commander itself that game winning 7 drop. easy solution
>>94406156...yes?
>>94406209low curve decks can work if your commander is a bomb
>>94406209Depends on the deck, but overall yes
>>94406228You'd also be correct. You make infinite creature tokens, therefore you get infinite ETB triggers.
My friends and I got into magic earlier this year. Up until recently we played with precons but a friend of mine made a copy/clone deck and I just recently made a goad dragon one. Now he's telling us he spent $400 on a black/white angel and vampire lifedrain/gain deck. What's a good counter?
>>94406304I heard Flusterstorm is a good counter.
>>94406304just play thoracle combo. that's what this kind of thinking will get you eventually anyway so might as well start there
>>94406304
>>94406304scryfall searcho:"players can't gain life"
>>94406304https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3A%22Can%27t+gain+life%22+commander%3ABR+%28game%3Apaper%29
>>94406345>>94406304actually a better search would be o:"can't gain life"
>>94406304Go to edhrec and copy the top Atraxa list. Lifegain does nothing against poison
>>94406304Any combo counters pretty much every strategy except aggro.Just remember to pack in a lot of tutors.
>>94396170To the Umori player from last thread: This is quite similar to my first Slime Against Humanity draft.But, like you, I found that black doesn't really bring that much to the table (except Uchuulon, that guy is awesome), so I switched it to Gruul.Minsc may not be an ooze himself, but flinging his goo into people's faces is funny enough for me, and it gives me real nice carddraw sometimes.And I found a lot more red cards I could use, although it cost me quite a few SaHs.River Song's Diary is a great find, I'll look for a way to slot that in somewhere.Here's my deck, I'm always open for suggestions:https://archidekt.com/decks/9135481/the_ooze_is_loose
damn, you shitters really are endorsing counterpicking, huh
>>94406396I'm my defense I'll endorse Lord of Pain in any situation. Making your friends miserable is what this game is about for me.On a related note, anything I need to make sure to order for Winter before debuting him on Friday?
>>94406395my idea for a slime deck was Reyhan and Sluurg, pass around the +1 counters the slimes get as they enter, and surgical extraction yourself to get a handful of slimes in exile for instant big slimes
Thoughts on picrel as a pEDH commander?
>friend wants to play>asks me to build him a spooky theme deck>i know him very well so I know black/blue will suit him well>i finally settle on tasha>he absolutely loves it >spends the entire time stealing spells and making everyone miserable by using their things against themI created a monster
>>94406434i feel like there's better options in jund
>>94406415based hostage keeper
>>94406304How has noone said Voltron yet
>>94406395I'll think about making it gruul, thanks for the suggestion.
>>94406443>tashaGood taste, she's sexily devilish and a self sufficient engine.
why design cards that are the fuel, the engine and the payoff at the same time?
>>94406672FIRE baybee
>>94406672Whyd you use 3 words to describe 2 things
How do I stop falling for the "double it" bait? Every deck I design works but can never threaten a win unless I drop a doubler to push my advantage over the limit.
>>94406726x2s are winmores, but they tend to be really expensive and otherwise do nothing the turn you play them unless you already have some other value engine on board. What decks do you make right now, because a good creature token deck could probably win with an anthems or overrun effects instead
>>94406741why would you play with shitty craterhoof instead of actual craterhoof
>>94406443How do Tasha decks close games out? I've always wanted to build a theft deck but they always seem to blunder around most of the time
>>94406747i make $30 decks most of the time
>>94406679seems like the inverse of Fun (due to making non-games if you don't answer it immediately), Replayable (for every game being the same turning down variety) and Exciting (because you will groan the moment you see a card like that snowball out of range)all I can imagine it still being is Inviting with the initial shock value of a powerful card (which has been happening very much recently). how long that will last is debatable
>>94406755The real problem is that in non-commander formats is that setup just isn't worth it because red deck wins, so you never actually get to "do the thing" nearly as often as you'd think
>>94406755None of this applies to 60 card formats anon.
>>94406304I remember you anon. Did you make any progress with making your own deck, or adjusting your precon to stand a better chance against the copy/clone deck?>CounterRun more interaction. Learn the key pieces that make the deck work. Read the cards to do so. And then interact with them via whatever ways fit in your own deck
>>94406741why would you play an overrun without some other creatures either tho. seems like a win more to me too>>94406726you flash the blast-furnace hellkite at combat/endstep
NEW>>94406796>>94406796>>94406796
>>94406783Playing an overun does something if you have an established board. Tapping out for 6 and playing Doubling Season does literally nothing even if you have a board, then your buddy goes "uhh yeah in response to you trying to make tokens or whatever i disenchant your doubling season"
>>94406763non-commander formats are just removal piles with a single threat today anyway
>>94406747>why would you play with shitty craterhoof instead of actual craterhoofMaybe he doesn't own a Craterhoof and doesn't want to proxy one or buy a real one. Maybe he's purposefully building on a budget. Maybe he only wants to make paper decks out of the cards he already has. Maybe Craterhoof is fucking boring, predictable shit. There are plenty of reasons to play the suboptimal cards.
>>94406804No they aren't?
>>94406801>dies to removal so badbrilliant
>>94406818it's more fragile and does nothing, yes
>Rite of the Dragontimmy is already at 1/3 the price it was a week before release>despite being in multiple e-celeb “top in the 99” listsFeels good bros. It’s going to a buck fifty. Sadly people’s faith in random retards online who got popular by personality rather than being good at games will not see such a market crash
>>94406778so they design self sufficient cards because they don't affect other formats? I'm confused
>>94406818That is in no way what the post anon made is saying, you're retarded.
>>94406801>playing Doubling Season does literally nothing even if you have a boardwell that's just flat out wrong
>>94406825They design cards for limited/standard and 40-60 card decks with up to 4 of a kind. All your complaints about FIRE only apply to the way commander is played, not how 60 card 1v1 formats are played. This is in no way confusing, you're just retarded
>>94406832>play doubling season>it enters and does nothingVs>play overrun effect>it buffs all your creatures and you swing outNo it's 100% correct.
>>94406840>They design cards for limited/standardok that's funny
>>94406832Anon i'm not saying the card doesn't have an effect. I'm saying is you cast the card and it does nothing when you cast it. Which means unless you already have a great board that's shitting out multiple counters and tokens each turn (already winning) it does nothing until you untap.Vs overrun, you have a board of 10 tokens, but no token engine, you buff up and swing out
>>94406846you might be thinking of a boardstate that has no synergy with doubling season the turn it comes down, which is not where or how that card is played
>>94406854if you have 10 tokens you are already winning too in a deck with overrun strat
>>94406872Wat
>>94406872yeah it's easier to cast a few spells in early turns to build up a board then cast (usually more expensive) value engine pieces to make doubling season work, while overrun just relies on having creatures
>>94406751steal other peoples finishers probably
>>94406751The secret is to focus on permanents' theft and mostly ignore spell-casting stealing.And to not overload on theft spells, focusing on the most efficient ones and then banking on sac outlets and blink to repeat the process is often cheaper and more impactful, even if it also makes you more fragile, as you are reliant on a more convoluted setup.
>>94407269
>>94407273Nice pull
>>94404390Doesnt he hang out with his dad on weekends?
>>94407726Thanks, I got it to swing once, it was better as a blocker for me
>>94406415Looks like an annoying discard commander.
>>94407727>>94404390>>94404170Yes, I hang out with my dad on Saturdays/Sundays and then come home. Watched some college ball on saturday while sorting my booster box from Foundations and eating food, then today me, my mom, and my dad just watched the Bills shut down Kansas City. Shit was cash, out of the games we saw, I predicted (guessed) the outcome of 4/6 of them. I went for the Bears, the Steelers, Bills, Lions, Patriots, and the Vikings. Admittedly, my favorite teams are Steelers, Lions, and Bills so those were the only ones I was invested in.Now that I'm home, I'm gonna be working on a new deck to start filling out a new slot in my roster, Liesa, Shroud of Dusk. Lifegin + Angel tribal, aiming for a bit lower power than a Giada-led deck but she'll be in the 99 since I pulled one from my Foundations box.https://www.archidekt.com/decks/10132693/angels_of_duskThis is the preliminary list of just stuff from my Foundations box + a Whip of Erebos I had laying around in Coram and wasn't really using.
>>94398481Un cards with a black border are legal dumpass.
>>94409482Only sometimes, and you have just demonstrated exactly why the concept is a bad idea
