Wanna start some bullshit editionPrevious thread:>>94416236>New to The Horus Heresy? Here’s Everything You’ll Need to Get Startedhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/30/new-to-the-horus-heresy-heres-everything-youll-need-to-get-started/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/General_Tactics>HH1 Black Books<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>NqlCmSpI>HH2 Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>1rki2Q6D>Miscellaneous Extras (Visions and Old Rules)<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>Q61izSiS『Adeptus Titanicus and Legionis Imperialis』>Adeptus Titanicus Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>IukARSLT>Legiones Imperialis Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>Mm8nlDLR#zBOQhHGcCacWYRSdK7f4oQ<slash>folder<slash>Fi9kQSwB>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.orug/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>homemade missions:https://clawsandfists.blogspot.com/2019/09/matched-play-missions-for-adeptus.html>Thread question:Do you have a model that is important to <your dudes> or are they all ultimately just game pieces?
got a 1k ZM game tomorrowgonna play daemons I thinkshould I just run forward and charge?
>>94427958I mean, it's not like daemons have an abundance of high quality shooting and ZM is more melee focussed to begin with, so what else are you gonna do?
>>94427985Die, probably.
>>94427985get pinned to death
>>94427864>TQAll my models are important.
>>94428086Rough news
First attempt at an actual titan list in Legions Imperialis. Mechanicum robot formations make it much more doable imo. Need the Harpax to come out but I think this is viable, should be pretty fun.
Memes aside, it kinda makes sense for there being a lot of loyalist Iron Warriors compared to other traitor legions. Since the legion was so spread out in thankless garrison duty or carrying out long pointless sieges there must have been a lot of isolated groups of IW who stayed loyal or became indipendent blackshields
>>94428190Also some of them are probably not happy with Perturabo considering how much he disliked his legion.
>>94428190I mean desu that applies to a lot of the flip flops on loyalty. People complain that there's more loyalist traitors then traitor loyalists, but the guys who are led by a slsvering madman or a dude possessed by his sword are probably way more likely to go rogue than some guy mad that Roboute makes him pay taxes.
Russ is the reason
>>94428350>mad that Roboute makes him pay taxes.The Heresy wasn't about chaos. It was about Legions' rights >:^)
>>94428391Rectoned.Now Magnus just barge into palace, break edict, break Emperor's warp wall, give no explanation and leave. Then proceed to cry in corner like a bitch
>>94427985>>94427958Infernal Tempest, bucks the trend of most shooting reactions being weak in ZM and favours horde units like Lesser Daemons without taking away their dedicated melee weapons, even makes HoW charges more effectivefor an army with universal 5++ or better and decent melee and which also cannot run away from a combat it's strong in ZM
>>94428462get out of here Lugft you weird Aquilon cosplayer freak
What makes /your dudes/ different, besides being yours? I bet they're just like any other dudes from the same faction. Like they were repainted Alpha Legion. Yup
>>94428495also 3 out of 4 Daemons WTs are Movement based, which is the only shooting reaction for ZM: a unit positioning to charge in the same turn gets deflagrate flamered in the face for its trouble
Wednesday night and time again for another OC heresy art dump to mark another week of classes on the books>Part 41: Heraldries of Heresy, Volume 2
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>>94428478Notice how all the retcons come off like loyalist propaganda?BL was a mistake.
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>>94428391again I think the better story is that Horus changed the order from arrest to destroy and Russ was all to happy to oblige and got played. The heresy is best when tragedies unfold due to the characters of the primarchs on both sides leading to their manipulation or failure.
>>94428507they are a host of their legion that got cut off and they picked up loyalist members of various traitor legions and mortal auxilia along the way, they have slowly begun to see these other astartes as brothers, with the end result of this becoming ratified as a chapter once the heresy is ended. the full list is a mix of Dark Angels, Iron Warriors, Imperial Fists, Iron Hands and Death Guard. once the tensions and rivalries have been put aside due to survival coming first they emerge as a unified pack of marines, with them not wanting to split up and thus ending up as a chapter
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>>94428557Last pic >Volume 3 next Wednesday
>>94428545Not really. Just like Magnus Russ was also made into turbo retard in nu heresy. You can argue that he did more for traitor cause than most traitor primarchs.
>>94428588russ also made horus dead set on betraying the emperor when he could've been talked down. man literally didn't do a single thing right
Okay is this picture going to come out well or...
>>94428595Just as I said, you can argue that Russ helped traitor cause more than most traitor primarchs. He forced TS and Magnus to go traitor, while rekting his own legion in the process, did fuck all most heresy, then arrived on Terra but instead of making it 4 legions defending Throneworld he decided to destroy his legion by atacking Horus, he wounded Horus with magic spear that caused Horus to fully embrace chaos, decided to not finish Horus off, then got his legion completly rekt for no gain at all and needed Corax to rescue him.
>>94428564Dang I can tell how shiny and polished this one is. Noice anon
>>94428621Hey, at least you remembered to attach the file this time brother, congrats
>>94428621I always have love for Kiarii, even if they abandoned their patron legion and their brothers on prospero and turned traitor.Any plans for a wash on that copper? I’ve tried several times to do a Kiarii scheme but always ended up with the copper/bronze looking a bit flat. I keep considering another shot with an oil wash, but doing good oil washes is tough without an airbrush.
>>94427864the MEGAs don't work anymore, someone took them down
>>94428724MEGA anon here, thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will get a new one put up tomorrow.
>>94428718I washed it with a thin agrax and tried to stipple a lighter copper on top but it didn't have an effect. For a more accurate coat I'd probably have to stipple the initial copper on to get the same effect but that's mad work and I don't want to.
>>94428724>>94428769Can someone test if this link works?<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w
>>94428646Perty > Khan > dorn > Russ
>>94428813Works for me
>>94428769Is there still a MEGA for the audiobooks?It went down a little while ago, but has any anon brought it back?
>>94428845Nice. If nobody else has any issues hopefully the next OP can include this new folder instead. >>94428868I have never hosted any audiobooks during my tenure as MEGA anon. Not sure where to point you to for those either, sorry.
Tomorrow is Heresy Thursday, what new Horus Heresy model do you expect to be revealed?
>>94428902Hopefully the Karacnos and other Mechanicum tanks for LI.
Can’t decide if I should go with pic related or the standard light grey, red & black they have on the side of the boxes for my vehicles. I like this more all over brownish grey with just the red, but I’m worried how not painting the trim is gonna look on something like an aurox that is basically 60% trim.
>>94428914Technically the dark grey is for elite or honored units, regular Mechanicum grey for the random dudes.
>>94428902It'll be more LIgma.
>>94428920Do you have a source for that? Not doubting you, but I’ve been clamouring for as much info on conventions and such and it’s been a struggle. Also as much as that probably should be a decider the headhunters are specifically stated as being a cohort that shirks a lot of the standard conventions because they don’t give too much of a shit so I’m still a bit half and half on it>inb4 this dark grey = elite thing specifically is a headhunter thingAlso how the hell can a tank be an “elite” tank
>>94428954Veteran crews. Tuned up vehicles instead of the bare minimum. Oiled and blessed by the unit's dedicated techpriest instead by the one assigned by the forgeworld, who is technically an expat, and is always overworked and forced to employ servitor labour and synthetic incense.
>>94428954Devastation of Tallarn p. 109Elite tank crews would be ones that have shown an exceptional combat record and earned the right to have their tank wear different colors. The fluff from the Heraldry of Honour articles on WarComm say that this was mainly a product of Auxilia cohorts with close relationships with an Astartes Legion; the Headhunters are exactly that, and they share in the Cthonian tradition of black or dark grey being an indicator of veteran status.
>>94429053Thanks for the citation! I honestly feel a bit silly for not even considering giving the LIgma books, I'll have to give them all a skim.Well that puts me in a bit of a bind then; I really fuck with the brown grey scheme but having an elite status bestowed to things like dracosans and auroxes might be a bit of a stretch, and having a mix between vehicle colours might just look a little messy on the table. The auroxes are gonna be transporting veletaris so maybe I could asspull and just say that the crew have just done some absolutely crazy deployments, but a standard dracosan carrying some riflemen is probably harder to justify...
>>94428902If we're really lucky, we might even get some paint-filled colour schemes.
>>94429287Ooh, what if there are Solar Auxilia Cohorts seconded to Forgeworlds? And they had unique color schemes representing the Forgeworlds they fought for? That would be pretty cool, that'd be worth an article
>>94429174>>94429053Actually scratch what I said, the colour plate for the grey scheme looks good compared to the ones shown on the side of the actual box kits and for the GW painted models. This lighter grey/off white colour works super well, these LIgma books might be a treasure trove for me. Thanks again anon!
the free exemplary battles download links don't work on the WarhammerCommunity site
>>94429335That's fine, I bought the book
>>94428391Did Russ make Magnus consort with dark powers?
>>94429377Yes. Russ showed Magnus his rune priests communing with the fenrisian world spirit to call forth Natural powers™ and told Magus to just "be yourself ;^)"
>>94429308You're welcome! I've been contributing to Lexicanum about the Auxilia stuff so I've been doing a lot of reading.
Are there any curses in 30k? Curses like Angron not being able to step on real space for 100 years and a day.
>>94429403Russ knows nothing of true BLACKED majick.
>>94429423Based, your services are greatly appreciated. Archiving and uploading info not everyone can have access to or might not be aware of is a deed too often overlooked.
>tfw you spent a lot of time painting details in sub assembly that get covered up once the model is put together
>>94429532paint your interiors for noone but yourself
>>94429358the book doesn't cover everything thoI don't think the book has mortus poisoners in it
>>94428902I've begun stoking my bitterness in advance. If they do nothing, that's expected. If they do something and it's total fucking trash, it'll be above expectation.
>>94429595Paint your interiors and then shove them in your opponent's face when your tank gets blown up.
>>94428902I don't care, nothing I'm working on involves new models.In fact the only thing that would be relevant to me is a new legion weapon pack.
I dunno I just sort of feel like a tank can have a spotlight AND a hunter killer missile.
>>94429854how many hardpoints do you think a tank has
>>94428086>and having their pets killed and eatThey're eating the grox, they're eating the phelynx!
>>94429623Paint your interiors then put tannerite inside and put a lighter underneath when it's blown up. I don't know if tannerite is actually heat reactive but God knows I'm not searching up how does tannerite explode
>had a pre-order on the knight battleforce box, cool plastic walkers barely get discounts>kept looking worse of a deal overtime>store doesn't get any allocation from GW for these anyway, cancels itGuess I'll just wait and see if marines get another battle group down the line, then.
Hey guys do you know where I put my hunter killer missiles?
>>94429936>The combination is relatively stable when subjected to forces less severe than a high-velocity bullet impact. A hammer blow, the product being dropped, or impact from a low-velocity bullet or shotgun blast will not initiate a reaction.>It is also designed to be non-flammable (the reaction cannot be triggered by a burning fuse or electricity)>Tannerite brand targets explode when shot by a high-velocity bullet. Low-velocity bullets and shotgun ammunition will not initiate a reactionAs long as you're not PLANNING TO ASSASSINATE THE EMPEROR I don't think Malcador will send any assassins at you
>>94429955mfs on ebay already putting it up anyway
>>94429424There is name magic and enumerica/math magic, both can be used to curse48gnw0, bind etc
>>94427864Yeah. I hate the new mark 3 helms.>TQMy leader is nameless. Just a guy.
>>94427864>TQIt's a mechanicum army. Half of it is strange conversions that are unique to my army.
>>94430260>>94430279was there more to this thought or are you just shilling
>>94428914>but I’m worried how not painting the trim is gonna look on something like an aurox that is basically 60% trim.You can still paint the trim in brass
>>94430153The easy fix seems to be to replace the new mk3 with old mk3 heads. Doesn't fix the rest tho.
>>94429991Given where I am, it's probably cheaper to get Knights individually from an adjacent country.>>94430528It's tempting to get those Tortuga Mk3 heads to put on the plastic equivalent, but at that point I must wonder if one might as well just get a full squad or two from them instead.
>>94430611Just beware that the Tortuga miniatures are slightly bigger than nu-30k scale, the Tortuga-mk3 are the same size as 40k Plague marines primaris scale.
>>94430611>>94430787Also FYI Tortuga has a 20% sale right now, I've bought their cataphractii terminators in the past.
>>94429595I glued my rhino ramp shut.
>>94430787That was one thing as well. If they're bigger than even Nu-Mk3/6, and especially dwarfing current Mk4 - I think that's something perhaps best left to maybe a veteran squad, characters, or something else distinctive in a mixed army, or are a completely new force themselves. Fitting special or heavy weapons might be annoying as well, I wager?
>>94429424Aye, maleficarum, but the power and wards of Fenris keep me safe.
>>94430816Yes they would not fit with the old mk4. Good for a new starting force, that's what I did with the new scale in HH 2.0 by starting a SoH force with Tortuga JUSTaerin.>Fitting special or heavy weapons might be annoying as well, I wager?Depends on the mark and your bits box, if you have spare arms it can work, but I have not tried it.You could also buy the nu-mk3 add on gauntlets or trade for them if a friend has some spare.
Wanted to troll a bit with some stupid stuff, but suddenly I realised, that I have an actual question to ask. Do you guys think that by mixing two boxes of w40k raptors with a box of horus heresy space marine tacticals and a box of Assault Space Marines, I could build a legal Night Lord units. Some of the helmets and shoulder pads and weapons could replace the chain weapons on my squad leaders, and I think that maybe by mixing the two jump pack kits, I could get both a raptor squads and a Assault Space Marine squad that looks lik actual Night Lords.
>>94430892Just beware that the 40k raptors are much smaller than the bigger 30k assault marines.
How much suffering should I expect moving forward?
>>94430956What about the jet packs/helmets/special chain weapons they have? Would they look wierd on horus heresy models?I was thinking about spreading some of the bits around. a shoulder pad here, legs from the raptor set there. Not straight up taking a w40k unit and using it. I was corrected on trying to do that very fast, and I am thankful, because it saved me money on buying assault terminators.
My esoterist so I can get all my daemons on the board haha
>>94429335They're working for me, could be a browser issue?
>>94431033… this is in response to the TQ …
Will CA debonder damage resin?
>>94431040I don't know I am getting the whole "bla bla bla not avaible in Russia. bla bla bla".
>>94431066That won't be it being broken, that'll be the host blocking stuff or some legal blocking. What you need, the fluff or the points?
>>94431078I would like to know if there were any Imperial Army units fighting as auxilia to th Imperial Fist force. And if there was one what colour was their armour.
>>94428086I'm so happy about the election results and I'm not even American.
>>94431107that's not in the EBs, but the best you'll get is here:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/KY2o4RVd/solar-auxilia-heraldry-of-honour/
>>94431142thanks.
>>94429424even geneseed was considered cursed, like the flesh change for TS, black rage and red thirst for BA, canis helix for wolves etc.
>>94430260brother, strange motiff in your armor's chest
>>94429854I kinda feel like a spotlight should be free
>>94431461Searchlights should be default wargear like it used to. With the choice to turn them on or off, like you used to be able to.
>>94428507they're former Ultramarines turned blackshields who developed a weird pseudo religious cult around their original captain who was beheaded and gilded by traitors at the start of the heresy, carrying his gilded severed head on a banner with them into battle.
Vexilla on tacticals y/n?
>>94431694On a 10 man tactical squad it's usually kind of a waste, by the time they're taking morale tests or end up in melee most the unit is often dead already.For a 20 man squad it's definitely a worthwhile investment.
So, odds we even get Heresy Thursday today?
>>94431708In this case it's 15-man WE tacs. I'm leaning towards using them, but I'm not excited about making handheld ones with brass rod (the backpack ones look dumb to me). I'm debating whether they're actually necessary, or if I should skip them now and just get another 5-man sprue in the future if I change my mind.Yes, I have melee troops too, it's not just tacs.
>>94431033Nice work!Which legion?
>>94431742For WE you can just glue a skull to the top of a backpack and call it a day.
>>94431737We will get an article related to the Heresy in some way today.
>>94430019Captcha curse
>>94431737They did one last week, and the weeks before that we didn't get any because intern-kun fucked up and released all the ones they had planned for that period all at once.It probably won't be any new models or anything like that, at best they will tease some new rules or lore/art.They said there would be no new model releases for us until 2025.I wonder if exemplary battles is completely dead at this point? If it isn't then perhaps we will see one of those at least...
>>94431757WS
>>94431776Also big announcement live stream tomorrow. Though GW calls literally anything a big announcement.
>>94431776>They said there would be no new model releases for us until 2025.They said the opposite of that. Or, at least, that there would be new model reveals, which is what we care about.>I wonder if exemplary battles is completely dead at this point?I hope not. The Sanguinary Guard one got me hopeful, but it's been dead ever since.
>>9443173750%, We either get a heresy thursday or we don'tThe chances of getting something we actually want in a heresy thursday today? 3%
>>94431797That seems high. A whole 3%?
>>94430892Helmets/arms/weapons/shoulderpads/heads should work, raptor jump packs if you're good at converting/sculpting.Just remember that the arms and torsos have slightly different dimensions between the two kits so you might have trouble with two handed weapons and arms. They might also look a bit "too" corrupted depending on which pieces you use, like the bareheaded head from the raptors kit, but that's up to personal taste.
>>94428902You say it like the Heresy Thursday itself is garanteed, that is not the case.I expect nothing but disappointment since that's what's in store this year and until further notice.Everything nice I could expect I am convinced will be monkey pawed to oblivion>plastic legion specific stuff confirmed!>Expect a small upgrade sprue with pads and a few heads and bling>Want to make IF crusaders? Just paint them black, good bye specific models :^)>Want to make Palatine Blades? Buy multiple upgrade kits to equip them all with phoenix power weapons, here are a few heads and pads so they can look a bit different :^)Congratulations to GW for setting expectactions and sabotaging themselves for no other reason than stupidity.Fuck it all, genuinely fuck it all.
>>94431782Nice, the lion head helmet and sword really fits then, where did you get the sword btw?
>>94431782Nice, I saw this before. What's the base kit for the horse daemon?
>>94431786So which tank is the most boring and unnecessary to have in plastic?I have a strong feeling that's the one they are going to release.
>>94431797>>94431799Anything above 1% is really pushing it.The "huge reveal" is just going to be that new IF character from the Mars book, calling it now.
>>94431816>Want to build a assault cannon HSS for your BA?>Only gotta buy 10 BA resin upgrade sets>Plus some marines to put the weapon on, of courseGW are such jews.>>94431832A plastic legion medusa/basilisk would be the most funny. Nobody is waiting for those, not even SA players are buying their version.
>>94431831It's one of the aos flesh Eater courts endless spells I think?
>>94431824thank you :) it's from the Deathwatch WS on a bike>>94431831the night haunt ETB dreadharrowsI got some more horses from the black coach on the way to round it out to a full squad! Excited!
>>94431857im the one motherfucker waiting for a legion medusa because they REMOVED THE RESIN ONES FROM THE FUCKING STORE
>>94431869I just got to my merchant from the east by default for resin models, GW removes more shit at such a fast pace I lost track of what they still sell.
>>94431857>Go from specific weapon upgrades>compatible with all kits because they're just hands and accessories>now we have shitty kit with useless bits like heads, a handful of weapons forcing you to buy a shit ton of it>ARMS>YOU WANT ARMS?>YOU WANT GENERIC FUCKING ARMS THAT DON'T REALLY MATCH THE ARMOR?>HERE IS 32 FUCKING ARMS IN YOUR MELEE UPGRADE>SORRY, SMALL BRITISH COMPANY, MUST UNDERSTANDI want GW's CAD library to leak so fucking bad, fuck em
>>94431869What's more surprising is the chair can support Alpharius.
This kit sucks.This is a horrible kit.Nothing in this kit is good.Everything you think is good about this kit, trust me, is actually fucked
>>94431857If you find the prices unreasonable, just buy recasts.GW expects you to buy recasts, they have deliberately made their most expensive models as recastable as possible.there is no other logical reason for this.
>>94431885I half hope those new generic arms are the new mark 2, because otherwise they won't fit any of the new marks. Still shit though. Should've done a plastic melee squad - running poses, melee arms, and then throw in a sprue for despoilers or assaults or whatever. then arms can be tied to armour, not this generic shit.
>>94431894But I like two handed Thunder Hammers and big ass weapons. Even the oar Spear, once it's flipped the right way around
>>94431894I like the thunder hammer and the sword being drawn. Also the holstered bolters.
>>94431894I don't mind most of the weapons honestly.The spear's fucked, the drawn sword is a waste of plastic, the claws are awful, the heads shouldn't be there, and the sheathed chainswords are clunky, plus fuck the arms, but the weapons themselves range from salvagavle to fine.
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>>94431857>Only gotta buy 10 BA resin upgrade setsDid you miss pic related? Those are fancy weapons for BA characters/sergeants. And yes, you need the arms. Which work fine with the new mk3, btw (you don't know about the spare vanbraces either?)It's retardedly expensive, but there's a somewhat fair logic behind this specific kit. It's not like the SoH one and the pretension of banestrike bolters not being used by whole units.
>>94431863>night haunt ETB dreadharrowsthanks!
>>94431931Those are rotor cannons, not assault cannons.
>>94431931why two volkites?
>>94431940NTA, but no one who doesn't play them will be able to tell the difference, and if they can and throw a hisdy fit they're not worth playing with.
>>94431931The ones in those kit are rotor cannons. Not assault cannons. You know full well GW expects people to buy 10 BA upgrade kit. Stop trying to defend big daddy company, you're not on their PR department payroll.
>>94431894Esplain. There's filler like the seathed swords and heads. The axes are retardedly huge (like the ones in Rann model), but the rest looks decent?
>>94431910>>94431916If you want more you also have to get all the stuff you wantImagine the special weapons were in that kind of kit
>>94431945Charger vs caliver. No one uses calivers but they're in the kit.
>>94431945Volkite chargers and volkite calivers.
>>94431816I do wonder if their pathologic need to release stuff people don't actually want and monkey pawing anything else into oblivion (*cough* MK3 *cough cough*) stems from some calculated longterm business strategy where they save products they know people will actually want to buy for special circumstances where they really need a boost to sales to satisfy shareholders and drip feed customers just enough new products to keep up interest otherwise.Might also have to do with warehouse space and stock, since they can't afford to expand right now due to the British government fucking over their own businesses and industry with redtape and bureaucracy, meaning they are stuck with limited space and can't release products which they know they will need large stocks of to meet the projected demand (a new plastic javelin or rapier release will need much more stock/warehouse space than a resin character barely anyone will buy). I suspect we will see more actually highly requested kits when they get more warehouse space.Or maybe they are just retarded and the release schedule is entirely based on some studiohead's tank fetish.
>>94431940>>94431953You are trolling or are you retarded? They're the same weapon with just a bit of bling in the BA version
>>94431955If I want to make a simple 20 man despoiler blob I have to buy it twice, which includes every other weapon.Want to equip your EC inductii with charnabal weapons? Simple 10 man squad? Buy 5 times this kitFuckItAll
>>94431945Chargers and Calivers. The latter is like an LMG but is currently kinda crappy compared to the HSS Culverin.
>>94431960>10 man volkite caliver tactical support squad is 25 points more expensive than a 10 man volkite culverin heavy support squadGee I wonder why.
>>94431950people who don't play heresy can't tell the difference between heresy-accurate armour and 40k armour, that's hardly a good reason
>>94431978I didn't say they weren't justified. The only place I've seen a legitimate use for them is as a 1-in-5 on the shooty SW troop squad (Stalkers? can't remember) because they're relentless. Even then there are better options.
>>94431974You're the one that's trolling here.
>>94431989Raven Guard have a niche use case in that they can infiltrate the TSS but not the HSS, and typically run low on HS slots.but yeah, it's a pretty poor unit otherwise.
>>94431980>the size of a gun's ammo box is the same difference as mkiv vs primaris armor
>>94431993He's one of these people who thinks SoH can be in salamanders green because green is green and he can't tell the difference.
>>94432006Then he's legally blind in addition to colour blind.
>>94431857Can't wait for the WE kit that's gonna include three chainaxes, a single one of the rest of the special weapons and some fancy bolters!
>>94432000>He can't understand that if a principal is disproven in one case, it's disproven in generalSome people are literally too dumb for abstract thought, huh?
It's the same picture.
>>94431975You must be new to this warhammer thing if you think this kit is bad. Or just baiting.>>94431993>he thinks marines were actually wielding the same gun as a dread instead of just being a case of the rules bending the fluff to give units a buff for gameplay reasons.>>94432006>more retarded autismAre you one of these moronic eastern euro players we heard about sometimes here or just baiting?
>>94432042It's several people, and you dodging the points proves them right.
>>94432028The BA one looks dope
>>94432028The worst part is how those ammo boxes and the position of the exposed ammo make no sense at all. Fucking britbongs noguns
>>94432042Isn't the Iliastus the ones Terminators use one-handed, while the Kheres is the Dreadnought-scaled one?A specialist Marine having to two hand a gun that a Terminator can swing around single handedly makes sense to me.
>>94432057It's a space tech from the far future, barely anything makes sense
>>94432045>non sequiturs>samefaggingNot only you're a pathetic parasite attention whore, you're bad at it
>>94431971I think they just try to surf on hype and noveltyA kit people expects is gonna generate less hype than a new oneIt's just predatory tactics to make you addicted to their hype and release cycle, make you imulse buy, that way they can also sell their stock faster.For the monkey paw is mostly greed and laziness, same reason the new tactical squads are the same 5 man sprue in the same 5 posesYou are right, they are retarded, they gave us ligma
>>94432063Iliastus is the BA/IF only one that's two-handed by marines or one-handed by terminators.Proteus is the one one-handed by indomitus terminatorsKeres is used on Dreads
>>94432066it's not a non sequitur. You propose that since people who don't use them can't tell the difference, they don't matter. I propose a similar example with the same premise - where non-users can't tell the difference, and see if you defend the conclusion that it doesn't matter. If it does matter, the basis of your claim is proven false and you're just talking shit.See how I take the point you made and addressed it instead of lying? Maybe try that?
>>94432042>you must be newLmao, thank you for your confessionPicrel is a good kit formulaYes, the price is assYes, it's shitty resinBut those bits, in plastic, is what a kit should be: Gives you exactly what you need, period.We used to be able to order *individual bits* back in the day, you know nothing of good customer service you little cunt
>>94432063Yes, but the distinction between rotor and assault cannon is just a gamey contraption. It's about having whole squads of them, at the same time it's supposedly special. There should be only assault cannons for infantry and gravis assault cannons for dreads.And IF/BA getting them but not TS is just unfluffy bullshit.
>>94432100Rotor cannons are stubbersAssault cannons are autoguns
>>94432028I love assault cannons, my two favs are the old ones like picrel and the rubric terminator's 'soulreaper cannon'
>>94432095>having more weapons and spare bits for the same price of a shitty resin blister is le badok, retard>back in the daynobody cares, take all the schizo med pills at the same time and spare us your FB boomer sperging. And I bet you're just being a hipster and you never did actually buy anything from the GW Mail order.
Ooooh, he's getting angry fellas. Let's all just pretend he's right before he gets real mad.
>>94432107diabolical bait, lol
