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So Word of Blake is still alive...Will they return?
How does missile reloading work in a mech like a catapult or yeomsn?
>>94619200Hope so, along with genetically modified 5m tall super-not!Elementals
>>94619200>Develops a bloodvirus that kills every fucking clanner bloodhouse including lower caste faildowns>Fucks back off to the Deep after a big I TOLD YOU SO to the Great HousesBest timeline.
>>94619243For a group that allegedly hated clanners they sure spent a lot of time killing people who would otherwise be fighting clanners.
>>94619266If they can't have Second Star LeagueNO ONE CAN
>>94619232Very carefully. The original yeoman has the launchers in the same location as the ammo bins, presumably it just feed directly into the tubes. Presumably the catapult has some sort of feed mechanism that runs through the arm joint. I wouldn't think about it too hard.
>>94619266>Get all ready to genocide clanners>All plans imploded by Fuckwit Steiner-Davion who gives his throne to his weak siblings>Everyone acts like clanners are a second-tier threat after 3060It's pretty fucking silly, really.
>>94619232Have you heard of the missile dimension 'tm'?
>>94619306The collapse of the second star league was like 80% Sun Tzu's fault and yet fucking wolf's dragoons were a higher priority to the wobbies.
>>94619232While this is a cross-section of a Mad Cat, I'd assume the mechanism is similar: There's a conveyer channel that snakes its way back and forth through the box launcher, and the missiles move along this channel until they line up with the launcher openings.You have to remember that Battletech LRMs are absurdly tiny compared to IRL missiles. Based on the number of reloads per ton, they're only like 16 or 17 pounds per missile, so think something more like the size of a soda bottle, not the man-sized missiles we see in use today.
>>94619354It was 100% Peter and Yvonne's fault and their capitals got fucking wrecked immediately. Wolf's Dragoon's got their shit wrecked because of AMC shenanigans in the Chaos March.
>>94619357But they're also 100% payload, every single bit of the missile explodes or fragments or both. There's almost zero debris because even the outer casing and electronics are explosive. That's kind of why they don't change much over time, a missile that can't be jammed and has perfect explosive efficiency is hard to improve on.
So if I buy the 40th AGoAC box and/or the Battlemech Manual w/40th logo now, will those have all the erratas applied?
>>94619489Yes and no. The latest printings always have the latest errata, and there's always more errata. People keep finding weird shit in even the base game decades on, and they make the occasional small change to sync up with something else or address some minor balance thing.But yeah, errata on the webpage right now matches what you can buy in stores.
>>94619357>Nathan Browning M24 machine gunDid the Sperry merger happen post-SL?
>>94619489It's kind of nuts that a game that's been around since the mid 80s even needs errara in a printing of its basic rules 40 years later.
>>94619200No, they've been confirmed as dead.No Blakists will be returning.
Which one is worse?
>>94619403What?Do they not have propellant?
>>94619707Both. Mechs shouldn't use ammo based weapons. No advantage is worth an ammo explosion.
>>94619865Case and Case II solves the issue.Plus your going to be using ammo when your on hot planets.
I've been listening to Double Blind and the whole second half of the book is giving me Dune vibes.
>>94619865Gauss is probably the best ammo depended weapon in the game.IS version runs at 15 tons with 1 ton of ammo your at 16. 15 Damage for 1 heat is an exremely good tradeoff.
>>94619837Any remaining propellant only adds to the damage. The warhead and missile body are both made entirely of solid high explosives.
>>94619707No CASE is worse, and if you aren't burning through that RAC ammo in the same time you would that single AC//5 bin you're wasting that RAC, and empty bins can are crit padding.
>>94619865The introduction of double heat sinks has been a catastrophe for the Battletech setting.
>>94620150Grandpa the doctors said you should spend less time on 4chan, it's bad for your heart.
>>94619959>30%more missile per missileCave Johnson would have made a killing in BT
>>94620251>inferno ammo is just combustible lemons
Am I the only one who imagines Pic Related being voiced by Kristen Schaal?
>>94620304Specifically her more childish and upbeat Mabel Pines voice rather than the harder edged delivery she uses for Louose Belcher or the sarcastic and obviously dead inside Sarah Lynn voice.
>>94620304Yes probably, given you forgot the picture.
>>94620150I totally get your point but it's time to move on. It's been 30 years.
>>94620150Double heat sinks are fine.They just need to add better projectile weapons.
>>94620338Pic Related as in OP's picture.
>>94620257Given this is BT there's probably more than one planet that has native combusting fruit of some sort
Whats your guys favorite Kraken loadout? I kinda like the look of the 4.
>>94620345>move on>from BTThreadly reminder that you're here forever.
>>94619373How do you figure?Sun Tzu's use of the SLDF in his internal ear with St Ives delegitimized it, and if was him getting up and leaving after he didn't need the Second Star League that caused it's collapse.
What if engine sinks were 15 heat instead of 10, and doubles in engines were disallowed? The middle of the road option. Some Succession Wars mechs would be less retarded (especially Drac ones), some post-DHS mechs that rely on engine sinks to do all the work won't be hit too hard. Apply this to vees too.
>>94620612Waaaaay too late for that.
>>94620622The only solution is a complete reset and reboot of the entire Battletech franchise using Alpha Strike as the core game rules.
>94620640People have been posting this bait daily for years man. Get some new material
>>94620304>>94620331>>94620355Wasn't Avitue preternaturally sexy?
So, the warriors fucked enough to ride the Hunch IIC probably wouldn't even try to eject?
>>94620732Correct
>>94620732>>94620765Could you imagine how embarrassing that would be?I bet that they'd try to get the Technicians to disable the CASE, but the Clan doesn't want to lose an entire Mech every time some loser wants to die.
>>94620684Practically all Mechwarriorsnare supposed to be sexy, and Clanners are supermodels. Avitue was sexy, but she also had pheromone implants that made her biologically impossibility attractive on top of that.
>>94620684>Wasn't Avitue preternaturally sexy?yes.>>94620732>So, the warriors fucked enough to ride the Hunch IIC probably wouldn't even try to eject?Fluff says pilots would disable ejection.
>>94620835>yes>pic unrelated
>>94620828I bet Kristen Schaal's voice could overcome that.
>>94620828>pheremones This is your periodic reminder that unlike many mammals, humans and other primates lack the 13th and 14th cranial nerves that mammals use for processing pheremones
>>94620828Wasnt one of the original plans of clanner designs was to give them more animalistic like traits due to the genetics programs?
>>94620876Are suggesting that smell can't induce an erotic reaction?
>>94620888Smell potentially can if you're weird about smells like those armpit guys on twitter. But pheremones are a specific class of smell that humans simply are not equipped to pick up on.
>>94620897>"Please don't wash, will arrive in three days.">-Napoleon, in a letter to his wife
>>94620884No, that was something experimented with in concept art for MechAssault 3 but not followed up on when MA3 didn't get made.
>>94620903If Napoleon were alive today he'd absolutely be a weird armpit guy on twitter.
>>94620897Have you never actually had sex?
>>94620897Doesn't matter if humans can't pick up natural pheromones well. The point is that Avitue is rocking bioengineered pheromones that humans explicitly CAN pick up.
>>94620911When the Emperor of France does it, it's not weird, it's eccentric. Like how when the First Prince rapes a Capellan princess, it's ethically fine.
>>94620906Darn, found the concept interesting.
>>94620934Capellans arent human, so its not really rape, its more akin to beastiality
>>94619241Battlemechs are already biological giants in most ways. They're a skeleton, wrapped up in muscle, wrapped up in skin, and controlled with an organic brain. They already have all the parts they need to make a giantess.
>>94620352No, just nerf energy weapons. The easiest way is to have lasers not contribute towards the 20+ damage PSR.
>>94621040>hbs intensifies
>>94620732...am I reading the stats for this thing right? It only has ten shots for it's fuckhuge main armament?
>>94621123It was designed as a Second Line mech and a Solahma one at that too.Its pretty much a suicide box on legs.
>>94621123Yeah, it doesn't have the armor to live long enough to use any more ammo.
>>94621123The Hunchback IIC is designed for one thing: dying in combat.If you manage to kill someone else, that's also nice. But the goal is to die. If you've survived 2.5 turns of shooting, you fucked up somewhere.>note also the 6 whole tons of armor
>>94621002bro suck fire a 12 gauge
>>94621164>if you played good, you fucked up.no YOU fucked up for not singling it out and putting a whole lance against it because you're racist.
>Cute Blakist cyborg editionI know nothing about this but you have my attention
>>94621183Racist against Clanners?>wait, that's totally a thing
Next version of Instant Action will better integrate it with the new Mercs campaign system, allowing you to seamlessly drop any Instant Action scenario into the existing contracts from Hinterlands, or use the mission matrix to pick a scenario instead of the tabled the contracts provide. Relatedly, I like the Mercs campaign system.
>>94621196>image comes in upside downThat's a new one for me.
>>94621183Imagine being so racist against freebirths that you won't even grant one glorious death in battle.
>>94621123>...am I reading the stats for this thing right? It only has ten shots for it's fuckhuge main armament?It's purpose is to die in a blaze of glory that hopefully, will be remembered for future generations. It's the equivalent of your dad, instead of having a midlife crisis involving corvettes when he has a cancer diagnosis, builds a killdozer and tries to kill your local sherriff.>>94620840>>pic unrelatedheh>>94620934>When the Emperor of France does it, it's not weird, it's eccentric.admittedly that even tracks for Marcon, who at 14-16 was dating (and then married) his teacher.
>>94621193racist against mechs.>>94621206that's just the severe retardation that makes ip 41% of clan genetics.
>>94621196I really wish there was tables for using the Mercs campaign/Hinterlands with Introtech/3025
>94621243Don't you have a batchall to be cowering in fear of?
>>94621200>land on australian planet.>surprised picture is upside down.
How rare would you say that the Aquarius is by 3025? Probably really rare? If a mercenary outfit had a small craft, it'd probably be a Mark VII, right?
>>94621246You can use the contract generator for it fairly well. You'd want different OpFor tables, and ideally some pre-written contracts. There was a generator posted on the CGL discord that could swap from Almotacen in 3151 to generate contracts for Outreach in 3058. Could easily make one for Galatea in 3025
Are there currently any B&N exclusive force packs out besides the old GDL/ELH ones? Might be near one this weekend.
>>94621284>discordFuck...Thank you though. Not sure 3000~3500BV for 2 mechs in 3025 is too high or not so the table gonna be hard to figure out for me
>>94621313The new Big Mac lance pack hit recently and is still exclusive
>>94621313McCarrons
>>94621318I'd personally adjust it to 2500 BV per scale, 3000 if you're using TW vehicle rules instead of BSP. 3K for two mechs is fine in ilClan but in 3025 you want less. The absence of CASE means more mechs will get completely destroyed. I'd recommend having replacement mechs be a bit more accessible, even though it's not very lore friendly, it's necessary for gameplay.
>>94619199They somehow did a good job giving her crazy eyes, even if her face is too asymmetric to be super hot. Also her ear looks weird.
>>94621040That...actually sounds like an interesting change.
>>94621339Good point, much appreciated. Looking foward for compatible missions
>>94621320>>94621329Is it worth the $30-$35 they're probably charging for it?
>>94621352I actually saw that tried at one point. The conclusion was it might be a bit more balanced, but it was a bit of a hassle because you had to separate out damage types when counting damage, and it didn't make all that much sense because armor getting blasted off by lasers should produce as munch difficulty staying upright as kinetic weapons abd explosions.
>>94621365Only of you really want one or more of the mechs in there.
>>94621375Depends how many of them are unique/different variants/reposes.
>>94621382All of them are new poses/mechs
>>94621365>https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/battletech-forcepack-mccarrons-armored-cavalry-catalyst-game-labs/1145411869?ean=0810123696338Well I bought it for the Awesome and the Black Knight, and the Awesome was previously AGoAC only;
>>94621382>Starslayer: jumping>Awesome: 9Q/4 PPCs>Black Knight: new pose (I prefer the ols pose though)>Tian-Zong: new
>>94621389>>94621390>>94621396Well I suppose I can use a 3rd or 4th awesome, I didn't get any of the comstar packs, so that's a decent deal.
>>94621369Lasers in battletech canonically do damage by burning through the armor over an extended period, PPCs, missiles and ballistics do damage through explosive and kinetic force in single impacts or short bursts.Lasers would cause far less instability than other weapons.
>>94621486Is that the new plastic map-scale dropship? can you put a mech next to it? wanna see the size and scale
>>94621486who asked
>>94621486Like two weeks ago you were crowing about being in a relationship and now you're already back to riding the cock carousel. This is half the reason why you're still single at 40. The other half is because you're too mid to be worth locking down with a ring.
>>94621486I remember when a new edition of Scion came out and White Wolf included text to the effect of "being a scion of thor doesn't mean you can't crossdress and rhen tell thor to go fuck himself when he gets mad about it". The reaction of the playerbase was "Thor canonically crossdressed several times in Norse mythology, how are you a writer for this game eithout knowing that?" No one actually had anything bad to say about crossdressing, even on 4chan.You're the clueless writer in this comparison.Anyway, you're the
>>94621486>>94621540Is it Dropship posting hours?
>>94621540Interesting. The Overlord might be too big for practical use then. Thank you
>>94621540 You've posted zero proof of being hot and considerable proof of being not. Honestly from what I've seen you're a 4-4.5/10, but I bet if you really went all out you could pass for a five, possibly even a six in the right light.
Holy Toyama I was wondering how big the map scale Leopard would be and this came out
>>94621569Map scale dropships are a handy reminder of the actual scale of the game. Though I definitely prefer mech scale terrain for visuals.
>>94621569>the reason we need to use mech-scale hexes
>>94621540>You don't offer to pay for a 100$ dinner for someone mid.You do if you're a thirsty loser.
>>94621527Clearly the what? Inquiring minds want to know.>>94621540$100 is pretty much the low end for a sit down dinner at a non chain restaurant outside of flyover states. Like congrats you're not being taken out for a $20 meal at McDonalds?
>>94621596Reminder that there are simps that pay thousands of dollars to have the chance to meet and not have sex with e-thots. That's the world we live in.
>>94621596>>94621540My go to dinner date for impressing a girl is taking her to a 17th century tavern that serves authentic period correct food prepared with period correct methods along with various entertainments (horse drawn carriage rides, live music, etc) It's $280 per plate and you have to book it months in advance. I keep it booked two times a month for the next six months because it's a guaranteed score. If one of the dates I have booked doesn't line up with when I'm seeing a girl I just take a buddy instead.
>>94621629I just dick em down hard and good.
>>94620684I don't want to be one of those people who accuses everyone of being a pedo but there's just something off about making her look so girlish when she's supposed to be a shameless seductress.
>>94621648Probably appealing to a certain type if you know what i mean
>>94621648dunno, she doesn't look that young
>>94621648Yes, I agree. Seductresses shouldn't look like girls.
>>94621648OP pic doesn't look girlish. Hell, she looks like she's probably in her 30s from the lines around her mouth.
>>94621589Mech scale map sheets when?
>>94621777Literally never, stop asking.
>>94621777Use the Fieldtech mats and mech scale 3d terrain.
>>94621777When you can rent your own tennis court for game night
wait so 90 meter wide roads are standard in BT cities?
>>94621846No, if you look at the canon mapsheets, their roads are usually a relatively small part of the width of one hex, so less than 30m.
>>94621846Only in ones expected to have regular Battlemech Traffic
>>94621777>mech scale map sheets>realistic ranges>games played in a gym
>>94621855so 20 meters of road and 70 meters of sidewalk?
>>94621777use a big mapsheet and 3d terrain dumbass, ezpz
>>9462184690m is a bit wide, but three lanes in each direction with a median easily makes 30m.I95 exceeds 70m wide for most of the Boston-Washington corridor, hitting 110m in some spots near NYC.
Other than DVS-2, which IS mechs would have stood chance agianst the Clans mech? Thunder Hawk?
>>94621889Why do you think they're 90m wide? A hex is 30m
>>94621950aren't they usually three hexes
>>94621955No. Most mapsheets with roads have them just under a hex wide.
>>94621955If you're thinking of >>94621805, those roads are Hextech, which is Mech Scale terrain, not map scale. A hex is 6m wide there, not 30m.
>>94621918If you are talking about equal tonnage 1v1 it really depends on which clan mechs you are talking about. Gargoyle and Kit Fox Primes are very different than a Timber Wolf.
>>94621722How are you not perma banned?
>>94622056Simps have infiltrated the administration.
>>94622056How aren't you?
>>94622098what has he done?
>>94621701I guess it's just the big eyes and that gobshite expression that makes her look like a six year old who wants to show you this big ass centipede she caught at recess.
>>94621722Leave this thread. Turn off your computer. Don't touch grass, throw yourself onto a lawn. Face first.
Will KGC-0000 be better if it was a laserboat? Or too many heat sinks needed?
>>94622156All the same shit?
>>94622342Now, let's be fair>bottomNamefags needlesslyPosts modelsPosts game photosButteposts>KrakenNamefags needlesslyThat's it
A mech generally takes a tech team of like 6 astechs and one mechtech to keep operational, right?
>>94622381Absent of other qualifiers and assuming "average" skill, yes
>>94622318Depends. Swapping the auto cannons for Large Lasers? Using the weight saved for just heat sinks?
>>94622391heat sinks and armor
>>94622381One (1) Fahad can take care of a company of mechs and performs mitosis in order to simultaneously repair an undefined number of mechs with split-open XL engines from the comfort of a Leopard dropship by ordering lostech parts from the local delivery service.
>>94622403If I were you I'd use some of the weight saved by ditching AC20s to add a car.
>>94622342really? please link an archived post of him posting pictures of his body in /btg/
>>94622214Well, she is funking batshit.
>>94622422Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
>>94622370Kraken has posted batreps and models before. Pointlessly namefagging is just about the only thing he does.Why are you simping so hard for bottom?
>>94622390Neat. I'm looking at what my mercs are doing. At the moment they don't have a dropship of their own and are riding on other peoples' ships, so I figure the company currently consists of two Mechwarriors and a Mechtech, with the astechs hired locally once they get to the job.
>>94622370Exactly as bad, yes.
>>94622459>>94622456>>94622370>>94622242Why can't all you people just be reasonable and accommodating? Why do you have to be so mad about everything and everyone all the time?
>>94622469Where do you think you are?
>>94622469Why would I be accommodating to bottom constantly shitting up the thread with off topic /soc/shit? I don't accommodate cancer. Do you think I dislike him for no reason? It's not like I ever randomly attack NEA or other identifiable poster that isn't constantly being a massive faggot every time they post.I'm perfectly polite and reasonable to everyone that isn't doing that stupid bullshit.
>>94622469How the fuck is it not reasonable and accommodating to take issue with whiny retarded identityfags endlessly shitting up the thread/board/site?
>>94622482>NEA ... isn't constantly being a massive faggot every time they post.
>>94622458Your pilots are probably going to have some skill at repairing their mechs as well. They may not be as good as a proper MechTech but at least it'll save a few c-bills on AsTechs
>>94622487That's right, usually NEA is making constructive posts and answering questions related to battletech in /btg/ and not posting his fucking ugly ass in the general.
>>94622469Because Battletech, because all wargaming, is the fucking property of straight white men, and I'm tired of having to share MY space with fags and women and minorities. I'll attack whoever I want, and the more of them get out the more of my hobby I get back. And if you have a problem with that, then you're my enemy too.
>>94622496When he's not whining about the thread going to shit, sure
>>94622496>making constructive posts and answering questions related to battletechExactly the problem. He doesn't fit in, and we should hate him for that.
>>94622496I've never seen a NEA post about battletech where he wasn't wrong, and most of his posts are whining about being corrected about being wrogn about something in the past or posting his ugly fucking arms
>>94622427you're a boring faggot, should just kill yourself and be done with it.
>>94622493I figure that's what lets me get away with one qualified Mechtech for two mechs instead of one for each. Though as the CO with no one over her, Marissa has to handle client relations when out of her Bushwacker, and Kyle does the accounting along with piloting the Wolfhound. Being a low run merc is busy.
>>94622507
>>94622508Drive here and kill me yourself. Oh wait...
>>94622446Mechwarrior 5 Mercenaries. Your head tech is a whiny prick named Fahad
If battletech was realistic this would be the most popular vehicle
HONOR THE DRAGON!!
>>94622595I dunno. Most military people think armored vehicles with multiple turrets are a really stupid idea.
>>94622549bro you're dull and cringey, grow up already.
>>94622626So, you would have responded the same if both >>94622427 and >>94622549 didn't say anything about cars or driving?
So I'm finally getting into BattleTech after the only wargame I've ever played being Heroscape as a kid. This looks cool as fuck and I'm having a blast reading the core rules.One big question, though: the rules say that you usually win or lose based on the elimination of the enemy army, but some adventures have alternate win conditions. How common are such things? One of my favorite parts of Heroscape was battling over terrain and objectives, and I tend to be more into that than just battles of attrition.Thanks in advance! (Pic unrelated)
>>94622558I never understood the hate. His accent is very fake but how is he unbearably whiny? Better him talking during a mission than all the other boring people.
>>94622626
>>94622645Quite common. You can have scenarios where you beat the shit out of an enemy force and still lose the game on objectives.
>>94622659Interesting, thank you! I'm very excited to learn more about this system. I posted the heat rules because they were totally unlike anything I saw in Heroscape and I loved em.
>>94622668There's a fan-made scenario booklet called Instant Action that is a fairly good start for scenarios with objectives
>>94622595WRONG, demolishers and manteuffels, aurora LBX, the ajax, the winston, the rommel howitzer, the athena, challenger, di-mprgan, di-schmitt, glory, the hanse, paladin, po 2, rattler, soarece, aithon, ballista, behemoth, brutus, gulltoppr, a whole buncha shit i don't have time to list.
>>94622659>>94622668Postin' for the masses!
>>94622637you can search my name tubby, don't be wingsofredemption where just typing makes you wheeze.
>>94622668Welcome to the Inner Sphere.In the Trove there is plenty to research and go off from. Have any questions where here.Just ignore the general sperging.
>>94622705>Just ignore the general sperging.Is it always this bad?
>>94622695Aurora LBX tank, SIX fucking AC5s
>>94622701It would be better if you wrote coherent sentences instead of sperging out at bait
>>94622708Some nights are calmer than others. Batreps, in-universe people/events, and sick paintjobs usually generate meaningful discussions.
>>94622710I would hate to be the guy handling the bore brush for that thing.
>>94622710>air superi-whatnow?
>>94622673>>94622697Always weird to see my stuff posted by someone else. I've decided that I'm going to produce a Version 5 that will fully integrate with the Mercenaries campaign (and incidentally, Chaos Campaign) Individual scenarios will probably also gain a version that makes them fit the Scale 1 games that Mercs is built around. If anyone has suggestions or feature requests for IA version 5, now is the time. >>94622708Tonight was particularly namefag rich, which tends to attract drama. We just need to have NEA pop in and we'll have all the current ones.
>>94622708Its got its good days and its bad day.Just take it in stride and don't take it personally.
>>94622757I cry pardon if my posting IA 4.1 in your stead offended.
>>94622646Complains all the time about who we're working for or what we're doing. For example, blowing up some anti dropship batteries, he whines about how they were probably built during SL times and throws shade at our employer. Another when we're fighting in the ruins of a dead and decayed WarShip, he complains about the destructive power they held. Whines about the "common man being held to the whims of the House Lords" Also periodically offers his unsolicited opinion on the morality of what we're doing.
>>94622757Will you incorporate BSP elements? Felt that the Mercs/Hinterlands got balanced around those being used alongside the mechs
>>94622782No worries, feel free. If i wanted it to only go places I put it, I wouldn't have put it on 4chan.
>>94622787Ryana isn't much better sometimes, but I hear her voice so often my brain auto-ignores whatever she says
>>94622810Playing MW5C makes me miss Ryana. You don't know what you have until you lose it.
>>94622493I might be misremembering, but isn't a thing where MechTechs can often be MechWarriors waiting for an open mech to pilot?
>>94622795I think ill include a note that BSP Assets can be used alongside the scenarios, just like in a Mercs campaign, but they'll just be an option. I don't really like them, I play Battletech for the nitty gritty and don't want it removed. I do plan on adjusting my unit caps and BV recommendations to match the CGL scale system. They're already very close. One big question is, Hinterlands introduces Scanning stuff and picking up objectives, should I change my scanning and objective carrying to match theirs?
>>94622826I remember that too. Pretty sure it's a choice for dispossessed and such.
>>94622829I think you should. Not necessarily because theirs is better or something, but it will make less confusions for the people who use the Hinterlands book
>>94622824Oh im well aware, the whinging in Clans makes Fahad seem like a fucking cheerleader
>>94622840That's probably the right call. I can adapt my stuff to match pretty easily, and it makes more sense to have everything behave the same.
>>94622835I'd like to imagine that small merc companies and pirate bands generally have their MechWarriors double as MechTechs when there's a lot to fix because they wouldn't have many people with the expertise, and because they'd have few mechs as it is so they need to really know how their machine ticks and make sure they can identify and fix any potential issues a layman would miss. Maybe they even started out as techs and got the chance to pilot a mech when the last MechWarrior died/retired.
>>94622826>>94622835>>94622826Dispossessed usually become1. Mechtechs2. Anti-mech Infantry3. Spies and insurgents for their lords
>>94622860By old Campaign rules, a Mechwarrior functions as an Astech when they maintain their own machine.
>>94622860I might be insane, but I swear Team Banzai functioned like that, with every pilot also a tech/engineer of some sort as well.
>>94622863You forgot:4. Depressed alcoholics
>>94622863>1. MechtechsReasonable >2. Anti-mech InfantryNever thought of that, but it makes a lot sense in hindsight. It's also a pretty badass, still killing mechs without a mech.>3. Spies and insurgents for their lords>Hey great job spending an entire career fighting ritualized warfare in a giant robot.>I think you've got the qualifications for spy work.How do those two things even relate?
just to make sure i'm not blind - the mercenaries pdf is not uploaded in any of the folders linked in op, is it?
>>94622910It's in the Mega?
>>94622860I bet there are Mechtechs that would take the biggest hanger queens the moment they're free to pilot just because of all the time and sweat they poured into keeping them functioning.Plus that smug satisfaction of knowing it's not longer their responsibility to repair post-mission.
>>94622902>How do those two things even relate?Mostly because they're nobility so are trained in etiquette and protocol and multiple languages and are also fanatically loyal for the chance for a 5% federal mech. It's old house book stuff.
>>94622942Oh that actually makes sense
>>94622925>TIL there's a megathanks.
>>94622942>It's old house book stuff.So not canon.
>>94623017Didn't people chum enough last thread?
Maybe I'll make having a Tonbo of their own my merc company's gimmick.
>>94623023>Dracs selling to everyone and their dogAs is TRADITION
>>94623030I figured it'd be on IS General given the lore mentions it's a big seller past the Jihad, but yeah, fucking everyone has it.
>>94623021No.If you want productive discussion, you can go to the Classic BattleTech Official Forums where you can be properly monitored. Until then, my paycheque depends on making unauthorized spaces unusable, and I don't plan to stop getting paid.
>>94623017Citation needed
>94623048You have been trying this bait for three years my dude.
So for a location like this, you just go "1,2 = shoulder, 3,4 = actuator, 5,6 = srm6" and roll one 1d6 and be done with it? Since 4-6 is just empty roll again anyway
>>94622719skibidi assault mech, on god!
>>94623092You can do that, yeah.
>>94623092That is a house rule, but it is a reasonable one. The correct answer is to roll a die between 1-3 and 4-6 to determine which set of 6 slots is rolled upon, and then another d6 to determine the critical slot hit. There are no alternatives inside the rules for that procedure, and each time it results in a "roll again" you are required to start the process completely over.However, RAW and in official or tournament play, you cannot assume your house rules will be allowed.
>>94622724>sick paintjobs usually generate meaningful discussions.As seen in the previous thread :^)
>>94623098
>>94622727>>94622753https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/battletechnology-aurora-tank
>>94623158>>94623098
>>94621500who
Is there any reason to keep the gyro if you have a DI system?
Genuine question, what are the benefits of Gunships and Smallcraft over just pouring those resources into more Dropships? cause it seems like Smallcraft are stuck as an in-between for Dropships and ASF, with mostly the cons for both and none of the pros for either.
What exactly was bottom nuked for? We know it's not just extreme faggotry, he does it all the time.
>>94623371Literally none. Small Craft are objectively worse than Dropships by every possible metric, except for some of them being able to fit into a hangar bay.
>>94623404I was here after the pic was deleted but not the post so I don't know what exactly he posted, but it seems like it was a selfie? Might have been NSFW if he got nuked entirely.
>>94623404Someone who is definitely not me has a couple of bots that can file reports. Filing 12 or more reports on the same post almost always gets it removed. It's the same thing that person who is definitely not me used to shut down NEAs batreps that were shitting up the thread. Namefags shouldn't be on TG.
>>94623417It's on 4plebs and it's absolutely work safe.
>>94619199Tism face.
>>94623467Right at home in /btg/, innit?
>>94623419Announcing a report/sage and abusing the report system are both bannable offenses. >>94623404Probably posting selfies again. Some jannies and mods will just delete everything you posted in a day rather than sort through it all. This is often why on topic or helpful posts vanish in a thread, rather than genuine jannytranny malignancy.
>>94623478Good thing I said it wasn't me then.
Got a question, have the battlefield support cards been released yet somewhere or did CGL release the mercenaries rulebook without the cards?
>>94623408It's a bit weird, honestly. We have a whole class of craft that are just junk in legacy rules.>>94623494Hopefully the ban is double length for being a smug little redditor.
>>94623517>It's a bit weird, honestly. We have a whole class of craft that are just junk in legacy rules.I get that they probably just saw Smallcraft as an after thought and forgot about them, but it is a little annoying that they're designed so poorly, especially since lore wise they seem to be immensely popular and used all over the Inner Sphere and Periphery.
>>94623404It was just socshit, completely unrelated to battletech, especially the picture.Inshallah, his absence will be lasting.
>>94623542Default ban length is 24-72 hours. Longer ones are extremely rare any more.
>>94623583They don't ban for longer than 72hours because then they'd be accountable for their decisions, yeaht. banned for posting loli on a loli board
I so very badly wish we had an official, muscular version of megamek so we could actually run complex scenarios with large forces on big maps in less than 3 days.
>>94623595We haven't had a loli board since like 2003 or 4, maybe 5. That was a very long time ago. Unless you mean /b/, /trash/, or /s4s/. DESU I think you're right and 72 hours is preferred because it's long enough to be annoying without having to deny any appeals without reading them. But I also think it's a mandate from gookmoot because 3 days is short enough that you'll come back. Month or more bans make people lose interest and fuck off. Which was their intent back in the day, lol.
>>94623505>Mercenaries box contents including:>Ninety-nine Battlefield Support Cards
>>94623618It was [s4s], yeah. Loli is banned on /trash/ anyway, I'm sorry to report. I've pretty much given up on posting any sort of image that isn't a crop of a rules pdf on this hellsite at this point.>DESU I think you're right and 72 hours is preferred because it's long enough to be annoying without having to deny any appeals without reading them. But I also think it's a mandate from gookmoot because 3 days is short enough that you'll come back.I think it's more that the people who actually assign the bans are in some gay bureaucracy and that the appeal system would theoretically involve people who never, ever actually do anything so the gay niggers that actually apply the 1-3 day bans deliberately avoid anything appealable. The random monthbans were from people who just didn't give a shit and did actually have ongoing contact with site administration.
>> 94619192 Bryan Young, main writter for CGL right now. And father to two trans kids, and fan of meeting underage girls to talk about Kylo Ren shipping.
>>94623638Yeah, just wanted to check if there was a digital version, us europoors won't get anything until late january at this rate
>>94623657News to me about /trash/, I just assumed it was /b/ but with more furfags. To be fair, /s4s/ isn't really a porn primary board, though warnings seem vastly more common there than bans due to the shitposting it's for being so vaguely defined.Back in the day it was actually possible to contact a mod on IRC about a ban and get a response, but I never once saw the appeal function work or heard anyone say it did for them. Last time I tried the IRC was for a month ban I got for posting something against federal law, which I'm certain I didn't do, but couldn't get an answer to find out what the post even was. I was worried at the time someone was using my wifi but it never happened before or since and I can only assume I was maliciously given an incorrect ban reason or some mod took exception with me advocating for Russians at home and abroad to be put in extermination camps.
>>94623695What is it with seagull and hiring pedos?
>>94623704You could check the reference sheet on the unboxing video on youtube
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>>94620352EAC/4, EAC/8 EAC/12 EAC/24Enhanced Autocannons. In the year 3666 Gary Davion-Steiner-Liao-Marik (a result of Canopian Pleasure circus gone WILD) invents the Enhanced Autocannon after smoking too much crack and somehow breaking the 89IQ barrier the Spheroid population has. After reading the lore of Naval Autocannons and their Electro-Thermo-Chemical (ETC) method of operation the Enhanced Autocannon series uses this method to boost the velocity (imparting greater range and kinetic energy) to the weapon at the cost of greater heat, which is easily compensated by the Quadruple Heat Sinks (made because energy boat faggots kept bitching about desert maps) invented in 3420.
>>94621040>>94621118>>94621352>>94621369>>94621478Lasers would cause SOME kinetic due to the sublimation of armor and the plasma shockwave, though it would be far less than any other weapon.
>>94621527>Thor cross dressing Except he did it to troll/kill a motherfucker, not because he felt like a woman and wanted dick.
>>94622422It's not just 1 Fahad, he has a crew of (mostly useless) techs, but the Mason's Cavaliers Leopard with it's engines that can leave Royal ASF's in the dust and pocket dimension storage space is far more interesting. There is a reason Unions are the de facto merc dropper. A Leopard means that you're poor as fuck or a hotdrop striker lance.
>>94621478>Lasers in battletech canonically do damage by burning through the armor over an extended periodThat's interesting, I thought they slag it off very quickly given they can't do an extended burst or their optics fry, hence the work-around of pulse lasers>>94623430It was, however, entirely off-topic
>>94623404For posting union dropships without spoilers
>>94623695>CGLThey REALLY need the Kyoto Treatment.
>>94623899It depends on your definition of "very quickly".A regular laser fires a sustained burst that melts the armor it hits and the armor falls off as molten liquid, pulse lasers do this process more efficiently, but not really faster. It takes place over the course of a few seconds in BT's ten second turns.Lasers in BT deliver their damage over time through heat, missiles deliver damage suddenly and mostly through concussive force, ballistics deliver their damage suddenly through kinetic and concussive force, PPCs deliver their damage suddenly through kinetics and heat.
>>94623954>It depends on your definition of "very quickly".Less than a few seconds, which is very quick but not instantaneous. Regardless, pulse lasers should still affect a 'mech's stability because they're the solution to slower, by comparison, non-pulse lasers.
>>94623992Pulse lasers do the same thing regular lasers do, just more efficiently. Rather than a sustained burst, they space out the burst into pulses to let molten armor fall away and deliver more energy into fresh armor underneath and not liquefied or vaporized armor.Pulse lasers aren't designed to throw a mech off balance, they're designed to fix the problem of the thermal damage lasers normally deliver being wasted on neutralized armor.It's not equivalent to getting hit by a bigger shell, you're still delivering the same energy as a regular laser. They don't deliver more force, they just melt more armor.
>>94621777You could go to staples and print one for less than CGL would charge you for it
>>94622888You're right, they did.>>94623312>Is there any reason to keep the gyro if you have a DI system?No, it offers no benefits.>>94623992Pulses would, but a 'mech would be affected more by the sudden loss in armor weight than by the energy itself; laser's don't build a lot of force despite being a ton of light. If anything, Battletech would have rules like old Mechwarrior Clix did, where if you get shot by enemy lasers you always gain additional heat just because of it.>>94623841So even channer reactionary hate is starting to die off lol, the femboy memes must be working.
Finished the minis, gonna base them now. Pretty happy with everything except no phone in this house seems to take decent pictures.
>>94622705I'm checking out the Trove eagerly. You did a truly spectacular job with it!
I need three shitboxes on the level of Assassin: fast jumpers one light, heavy and assault, all that could pop up in the Periphery before 3050. What are your recomendations?
>>94624372Can you fucking read?
>>94624372>channer reactionary hateWhy is a socialist on a website he hates the culture of anyway?
>>94624544To subvert and colonize it.
>>94624223I think you underestimate the cost of staples prints
>>94624372>Pulses would, but a 'mech would be affected more by the sudden loss in armor weight than by the energy itself; laser's don't build a lot of force despite being a ton of light. If anything, Battletech would have rules like old Mechwarrior Clix did, where if you get shot by enemy lasers you always gain additional heat just because of it.That's a lot of words to avoid agreeing with me despite having no real objections
>>94624541I'd say Quickdraw for the heavy, stinger for the light, charger 1a9 for the assault.
>>94619696Isn't that essentially incorrect? We can argue that the Word is dead, but the Manei Domini are still around and doing the reverse clanner thing down in the Periphery. And neo-Blakist cults are still active.Of course, we won't see them for years I presume, but they're still a possible tool for CGL's writing.
>>94624803How have manei domini, people notorious for their instability and short lives, stuck around 70+ years after the jihad?
Noob here. What are infantry good for? I love the combined arms aspect, and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth bothering with the diggers.
>>94624899Spotters for artillery and indirected LRM fire. Also field guns, or anti-mech jump infantry using VTOLS or in close environments like cities.
>>94624899Foot infantry are largely defensive. They can't really move around the board, and are very vulnerable when doing so. You park them in a piece of cover, and they punish anything that gets too close. They work decently as cheap bodyguards for things like LRM carriers, and can spot as well if need be.
>>94624899Regular infantry are technically mobile landmines.
Are there any other good customizable mech games out there? Maybe with some coop campaigns or something like that?
>>94624918>>94624955>>94624961Thanks anons! This sounds like a fun and useful, but not dominant, role.
>>94624843The Catholic church has been around for a thousand years without even being allowed to reproduce
>>94624843Don't ask me. Ghosts of Obeedah simply told us that the Manei Domini started their weirdo exodus in 3132 with their still sizeable warship fleet and went to bumfuck nowhere, Periphery to come back to save the Inner Sphere when they'll be sick of the Clans. So the Word is dead, but the crazy cyborgs aren't.
>>94625108That just means manei domini left the inner sphere, it doesn't mean they're still alive and spooking. Manei domini are not long lived people, that a sizeable group lived that long beyond the jihad is itself a miracle.
Is 4x ERML and a tarcomp, plus an MML-5 and 2t of ammo a respectable load out for a 6/9/X mech?
>>94625149What's the tonnage?
I ran two Saladins with precision ammo last night. It was a pretty good time. Turns out 4 shots is enough.
>>94625108There's something more than a little funny about that.
>>94625149An optimized custom? How predictable
>>94625142Being around and having a sizeable population in 3132 means they managed to keep up their numbers in time despite the peculiarities of their condition. The cope "the implants will kill them all" didn't work the first time after the end of the Jihad, after all. But again, it's not like CGL will do anything interesting with them.
>>94625108At that point it's probably more of a cult made up of the children of followers and abductees rather than genuine surviving Manei Domini. They still have tech, so they can still implant new elite spooks with cybernetics. The original members would all be pushing 100 by then, which seems unlikely given how badly the cybernetics impact their lifespan and how much stress they've all been under from their screaming war fanaticism.
>>94625216>2 tons of ammo for one MML-5>optimized
>>94625274Maybe you'd have a third without the tarcomp lmao
>>94625149>>94625216
>>94625309In what parallel universe is not having enough ammo the issue when you've got 44 shots for a weapon?
>>94624843>short livesWouldn’t be the first time in-universe claims were wrong.And what if…. they made more?
Managed to hammer a passable pic.
>>94625108They are the Word. Not all their members are cyborgs.
>>94625342Quit stalling and post your shitmech already
>>94624899Scuba divers with short-ranged torpedos is the optimal use for infantry.
>>94625548classic nicely done
As of Legends II, Sterling McKenna is the undisputed hottest woman in Battletech
>>94625548white skull atlases (atlai?) are always based
>>94625548Nice yo>>94624843>How have manei domini, people notorious for their instability and short lives, stuck around 70+ years after the jihad?Because the MD was never just VDNI and pain buffered mechwarriors, or tau zombies with every bit of skeletal muscle removed for myomer- they were people whom were firm believers who lost something fighting for Blake, and were then asked if they wanted to go into specialized trainings and perks in exchange for continued service. Avitue, the gal up top, was known for not having any VDNI systems and was largely making it as a special ops "Ghost" with her only implants being used for learning and influencing people in speech more.>>94625149>Is 4x ERML and a tarcomp, plus an MML-5 and 2t of ammo a respectable load out for a 6/9/X mech?Post the whole thing. 35-40 tons it'll be okay but no different from like, a Jenner- 45 ton is a little low power.>>94625857>As of Legends II, Sterling McKenna is the undisputed hottest woman in BattletechBut Janella Lakewood tho
>>94625902Its me or that pic is traced over a real photo? I think i saw the model elsewhere.
>>94625938>Its me or that pic is traced over a real photo? I think i saw the model elsewhere.a lot of the art in the legends books feels a bit dodgy.
>>94625938>Its me or that pic is traced over a real photo? I think i saw the model elsewhere.Honestly? I ALMOST feel the same; like I swear I've seen her somewhere, but the image is also a common model pose, so I wonder if that's part of it.
>>94619357>>94619232This version shows it slightly better, also got a Battlemaster version that shows case and an SRM-6 if you want to see that
>>94626051said Battlemaster
>>94625984Arrastia have been doing that for years by now.
sex
>>94625902yep she’s a cutie, but Sandra Bullock type (attainable)meanwhile Sterling is whewwww
>>94625994Maybe Claudia Black?
>>94625984This is what you get when you draw the Venn diagram intersection of Jeremy Jahns, Marcus from Babylon 5, and Captain Crais from Farscape.
Aside from the box art, is there any difference between the regular and 40th anniversary editions of a game of armored combat?
>>94626161none
>>94626161well there are a few updates for IlClan era variants of the included mechs but nothing different in terms of the plastic
>>94624918Field guns are probably the dickiest weapon in the game. If your opponent tells you they're bringing them they're just very annoying, but if they don't then it's ebola.
>>94625156>>94625216>>94625342>>94625902>>94625556
>>94625938I feel like this was a discussion that occurred with Legends I and the consensus was either traced or just closely copied from a model picture.
>>94626106Is that Nasty K 2: This Time It's Nastier?
>>94626106Is her zipper broken?
>>94626120They put her last because they wanted us to have fond feelings after a shitty book.
>>94626304Lol, it totally is.
>>94626306She looks very italian, I thought they were supposed to be big titty goth girls
>>94626317>big titty goth girlsSterling McKenna is a Clan Pilot. Whatever else she had going on, she was never gonna be big tiddy.
>>94626329I thought she was in the warship commander track
>>94626339She pilots a fighter in the novels and in Legends her ride is a Jagatai.Anyway, in CSR even the Naval Commanders are originally based on Pilot stock.
>>94623404not being a terminally online loser loke everyone else on here
>>94626106>>94626306would
>>94626288I think it’s less an issue with the portraits in Legends 1 and 2And more of an issue of the illustrations they were based onIf anything the art in the Legends books is significantly more stylizedCheck out the Malvina from ER3145 versus her Legends portrait they did her dirty
>>94626306she is so hot damn
>>94626286Wow, that's impressively bad.
>>94626465I mean, she was hot enough to get an alliance with the FedSuns basically based on her hotness.
>>94626329That art is supposed to be aerospace pilot phenotype?Does CGL even have an art director?
>>94626306This triggers my autism. Dangly earrings are horrible on a starship.
>>94626364I'm sure the dick pics were unrelated.
>>94626359>hyper velocity assault gunWhoever typed this up got a little confused
>>94626501and best of all she bretrayed the FedSuns which just makes her even hotter
>>94626482Is it not optimized enough? I'm thinking maybe endo/FF to bump up the size of the MML.
>>94625548I love the white gloves.
>>94626317Snow Raven are big titty goths? holy shit i love clanners now
>>94626674Ravens for goth lovers, Bears for the tomboy fans, Foxes for thin wispy chicks with no mass, Falcons for the ones who prefer mental illness beyond whats normal for clanners, and Hells horses for horse gurls
>>94626865I like all of those types but I will say the sex with CJF type girls is easily the dirtiest
A lot of my local players mainly play mech only, a few have tried BA.Fewer still vehicles, and even fewer infantry. Why is there such a high perceived barrier to entry for using infantry?Personally I think it's the lack of readily accessible record sheets. Having to Techmanual your own units all the time is a big hurdle imo.
>>94626106What’s with the meth head artist?
>>94626614You could easily take two MML-5s or an MML-9 with the same ammo
>>94627018That question answers itself.
>Essentials box $12.5Should I get another Essentials box/another Centurion ans Rifleman for mostly one more $20 coupon?
new thread>>94627115
>>94626503I'm almost certain there's stuff about how post clan invasion it was decided that the extreme variance in the Aerospace phenotype wasn't actually helpful and they became a lot closer to the mechwarrior lines.
>>94626984Infantry are a specialist unit, they're only useful for very specific scenarios that don't tend to come up. Even the slowest mechs are far more mobile than foot infantry and so mech focused battles move around way too much for the average infantry platoon to do much. Plus you need special weapons to deal with them since they made big guns only kill one or two guys per shot, and that's just annoying when you're here to smash mechs together.
>>94627061You'd save 14 tons between the structure, engine and jump jets if this was a 55 ton ton mech
>>94626538are the dick pics in the board with us right now?
>94627585Post license, registration, and proof of insurance
>>94626865Who's Burrock for?
>>94621123Yeah if you’re double-tapping the UACs like a real man you only get 2.5 turns of ammo to shoot withOn the other hand: 94 point alpha strike
>>94624022So why are pukse lasers more accurate rather than harder hitting? This shit makes no sense.
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>>94628129damn nigger, got anything new?
