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Snord should have been a Goliath Scorpion bloodname
formerly Chuck's Regulars
>>94627156>not playing BT as a combined arms game with objectivesWhy are you even playing then?
Let me get uhhhhhhh Homeworlds CSR game
>>94627177Most people are playing the game to smash robots together and that's it. Sometimes there are objectives that robots can accomplish. Occasionally there are objectives that BA can accomplish. Rarely if ever are there objectives that conventional infantry alone can accomplish.
Attempt #2 (this is now just a quickdraw variant)
>>94627119Yeah considering his eccentricity and kelptomania that pretty much screams "Goliath Scorpion" Hackpole gotta suck off his precious Wolves.
Lets do a design challenge. The Bombardier is a much-maligned design that was made for a very specific purpose it never really got to do before it was shoved into roles its unsuitable for. Your task is to make an introtech variant of it that keeps it in a fire support role but gives it a unique identity instead of being a knock off Crusader, Catapult, or Archer.Also can we get a definitive answer on whether the cockpit is the two sunglass lenses or the visor in the front?
>>94627270The unique identity demand is the downfall of many canon designs. Wolverine takes the good at short range slot, Griffin takes the good at long range slot, so Shadowhawk is left with the bad at all ranges slot.
>>94627221You'd net 2.5 tons of usable mass by making this a 55 ton mech with no other changes
>>94627332It IS supposed to be a challenge. The lostech original went 5/8 so I guess trying to keep that speed would be a good niche but man that LRM battery is going to suffer.
>>94627270I think it's fine as-is because it looks like a Great Value Archer, and that's what it literally is, including the introtech version having an ammo bomb in the center torso for extra shittiness.
>>94627364You lose armor and structure going down to 55t.
>>94627332Does the Enforcer take the medium range slot?
>>94627402Enforcer is 50t, it's not part of the 55t trio. It's competing with the Hunchback and Trebuchet. (Yes it's the medium range one of the three.)
>>94627270I'd drop two and a half tons of armor and half a ton of MG ammo, and fit in two more heat sinks and another ton of LRM ammo. Now you can fire the missiles a bit more consistently, at the cost of survive-ability.
>>94627191Like the Clan homeworlds, or like the space combat computer game?It could be a cool campaign, the Ravens' desperate flight from the Kluster.
>>94627221Drop the case ii, and carry an extra tonne of inferno srms for your mml. also makes the mech available sooner in universe
>>94627119Or Snord could just have been a Scorp freebirth.
>>94627433Computer game.https://youtu.be/rLhS46IcnSs?si=0CIOYD536BmvlyiD
>>94627401Its armor isn't even maxed
>>94627270there are only so many ways to build a 65 ton introtech missile boat, and the defining traits of the bombardier are beyond introtech anyway. i instead submit pic as a not-quite-introtech variant. six lrms and 5 tons of ammo match the classic catapult in tubes but offers much great versatility in carrying and using alternate munitions. 5/8/0 movement is good to keep up with the front line. dual AMS and 8 tons of armor protect against counterfire. lack of secondary weapons leaves it very vulnerable to hostile skirmishers.
The Wolf's Dragoons should have had been a multi-Clans thing, primarily Wolf but some other dudes from various Clans coming along. I mean, it's absurd that the other Clans (especially Crusaders) wouldn't have wanted informations from their PoV directly, not censored by the Wolf (known Warden) or at least to spy, check and balance the Wolf, not trusting them completely
>>94627270>>94627388If you take the 10D and delete the MG and replace the LRM20s with LRM10s itll go 5/8 again. Drop the SRM4 for some mediums and some heatsinks and you have a budget cavalry Archer, but thats boring.
>>94627527Can't share any of the glory of Based Main Character Clan Wolf with the side clans.
>>94627527The other clans were basically ignoring them. They didn't care about intel and anyone they trusted enough to go be a commissar on the Wolves rejects was also trusted enough that they wanted them to have the honor of being in the invasion.
>>94627527The idea is supposed to be that no one wanted to send away many trueborn and the crusaders of the time weren't letting freeborn become mechwarriors. The Scorps helped train them in "historical" tactics and sent a few advisers along that came back during the first supply run.
>>94627527>Wolf (known Warden)That's not really what the situation was
Clan Wolf is so dumb
>>94627679the Wolf wasn't a Warden?
>>94627686I want the wobbies to return and nuke them into oblivion, as blake intended
>>94627751>somehow, the blakists returned
>>94627585>>94626364it's so cute to see a loyal couple, shame they're both retarded
>>94627879Bottom and Banshee are literally the same person, Banshee is just bottom's sockpuppet when he wants to compliment himself or evade bans.
>>94627860Today I will remind them
Lyrans are balkanizing, Dracs are about to get their shit stomped by da Bears. FWL are dealing with rogue FWL elements, and the Marians and the Cappies have stretched themselves a bit to thin to be a major threat to anything with the MoC reconsidering their alliance, and Feddies are taking a break to recover and fortify.Who else but a hidden group of Blakists could possibly save the IS from Ward?
>>94628002the other wolves, of course
>>94628002FWL reunites, forming a new word of Blake, to then go on and form a new star league. Only to be foiled at the last minute by yet more FWL infighting.
>>94628002Stone mentioned there were other Blakist "projects" like him, maybe one of the others survived
>>94628002https://youtu.be/sLlu_RpElBs?si=u8hI1odrryV53G4a&t=11
>>94628025You mean the ones currently getting their shit pushed in by the 'Goons and House Stewart?>>94628028>Stone 2: Electric BoogalooGod please no
>>94628028isnt it obvious?
>>94628042>Unidentified Jumpships drop in on Sol with Warship support>Blitz past the Navy and land on Terra>disgorges hordes of Rifleman III's>all with RWR insigniasThis would be the funniest thing ever.
>>94628065Don't forget upgraded and functional Matar's
>>94628075>upgraded and functional Matar'sBlakists did it, and its called the Omega
>>94628065It'd most likely be larping pirates having their storm of chaos grimgor ironhide moment, but it would be kinography none the less.>"You're not gonna believe this Jean-Louis, they all have Shark insignias!"
>>94627713Clan Wolf-in-exile was the wardens ejected from the political morass. The crusaderwolves then got stomped out and replaced by Smoke Jaguars who got renamed to Clan Wolf. And that's how the the most incompetent clan at Tukayyid became ilClan
>>94628293>most incompetent But Jade Falcons arent ilClan
>>94628395too soon anon too soon
who finna to get some plastic eggs
Have you guys seen printed Phantoms anywhere? I bought a bunch of recent cast IWM mechs but I really don't like the old Phantom, looks like a mook that disguised itself as an air vent, whereas I do like the shimmy version a lot more.
>>94627412The Centurion also fits in there, right?
>>94628293Eh? The crusader wolves that survived the refusal war were all bondsman to jade falcon for a couple days but their bloodlines weren't abjured or anything. They picked up a bunch of homeworld psychos and recruited from their civilian caste to fill the gap while they presumably created a bunch of new sibkos that matured in the late 70s.
>>94628423The issue with the original mini isn't the look which should make you say "Jaffa KREE" but rather that it is immensely over-scaled. Classic case of Owens syndrome.Haven't seen anything with the new look, though.
>>94628415>giving CGL money everYou didn't learn from the Kickstarter?
>>94628395The fact that the dmoke jaguars make jade falcon look competent in comparison really says it all.
>>94628415Why no Union C?
>>94628515Is it visually very different from the IS Union?
>>94628515Because it looks exactly the same as a normal union
>>94628522Quite (modulo they're both eggs).
>>94628415>>94628515Do they have Leopard and Broadsword?
>>94628531>greebles v no greeblesJust slap some filling primer on your normal union to replicate the smoothness of the union c
>>94628534>>94628415Reminder, they're all just the old 3D models from over a decade ago.
When the Word of Blake exiles make their return for the Clan Counterinvasion, their latest technological marvel will be:Heavy and Assault LAMs with no material and engine construction restrictions. Equipment and quirks that negate any pesky equipment failure rolls. Clan+ grade weapons, including reworked and competitive autocannons. All of them have perfected VDNI but have semi-vestigial gyros that provide PSR bonuses.
>>94628651>Heavy and Assault LAMsProbably not, Herb or no Herb I doubt they'll ever get rid of the weight restriction anytime soon. I could see WoB refining the conversion gear by getting rid the Triple Mode system by dropping the humanoid bipedal form entirely and just making the Airmech mode the actual mech mode. Honestly I get they were just straight rips from anime like most of the early mechs, but in universe it never made sense why they forced LAMs to be humanoid when a chicken walker design would have been more structurally sound. Less shifting beyond folding the legs and arms in. Shortening the nose, refining the frame to let external bombs be a thing, specialized anti-infantry weapons, LAMS and ECM probes, etc. Have them fully focused on being the raiders and bullies they're supposed to be, not try to fight ASF in the air or Mechs on land like the later post-nerf fluff says they try to do for some reason.
>>94628733There's a naming problem with reducing LAM forms and that's that they already used Bimodal LAM for the unit type that the Shadow Hawk LAM is. It is by far the least deserving unit type ever, with only one actual unit in it and only 20 or so individual examples of that unit, but there it is.
Civilian LAMs not being a thing is a shame. Imagine a mech that lets you move around basically anywhere, just pull out the bigger weapons for more armor and fuel. They would have been great for exploration and colonization groups.
Instead of transforming, why not just build an Airmech that's always in that mode?
>>94628771Because then WiGE would be even more of a joke.
>>94628758The things were full on Star League Magic. Dracs only had their factory because LAM Island was completely untouched by the horrors of the Succession Wars. Only Blakists and Clanners had the bleeding edge tech to do anything with them from scratch.
what are you working on painting /btg/
>>94628750The problem with the Shadow Hawk LAM is it shifts from humanoid bipedal to plane, which is a lot of moving parts. What I'm arguing is that a refined bimodel LAM shouldn't be humanoid, it should be a reverse jointed chicken walker closer to a wide Marauder, that way when it shifts to ASF mode all it's really folding is the legs and pulling in the arms, which is way less than the SH-LAM does to shift between ASF and Mech mode. LAMs were still experimental during Star League's era, even if they were apparently successful enough to see widespread use in both every SLDF Division and the Great Houses' scouting and striker regiments, and it comes of like it was still a system in the process of being refined before the Amaris Civil War happened. It doesn't help that it was Lostech for the Great Houses and didn't fit the strict caste system of the Clans, so neither put any real effort in improving on the tech, just trying to get around its current limitations with weight saving tech or two pilots to get around the skill ceiling.
>>94628805It's a "try my hand at writing fiction" night.
>>94628771Because the entire point was for the dev in charge to kill LAMs without actually ripping them out of the game, because he wasn't allowed to. Any sensible solutions to balancing LAMs or making sense in universe will never happen because the changes were openly and explicitly malicious.
>>94628505my CGL KS rewards have always been on time and correct>>94628534Not yet I hope they make them and double hope that GF9 makes ones for Alpha Strike
>>94628429The centurion is the shadowhawk of 50 tons.
>>94628805I won’t be able to get started for a bit because of holiday traveling but next up for me are two stars of IIC mechs that I want to use as Raven AllianceWill be painting them in a primarily turquoise scheme
>>94628827>wanting GF9 to make themWhy not just print them yourself?
>>94628813based desu
>>94628833Is it? It has so many different canon variants across every era though. Even if you don't like the stock Centurion, there's not really anything stopping you from using another one. Plus most of the CN9-A's firepower comes from its LRM and AC10 so it's not like it's not putting out good damage at long range, unlike the SHD-2H which is too much of a jack of all trades with shit damage at almost every range band.
>>94628415Id much rather proxy something than pay that much.
My workspace of shame with minis in various stages of completion
>>94628870An orange makes a great union dropship
>>94628848i don’t wanna mess with it to be honest
>>94628750>>94628733I don't understand why Bimodal exists in its current form. You would think that the logical missing link is a variable fighter with only gerwalk mode as the sole transformation. Not only that but it weighs more, so its the equivalent to a "primitive".>>94628774That's fine. They cost more and are harder to pilot, but have limbs for finer maneuvers. It makes sense in universe.
>>94628806Like the Champion!BTW, the Unseen PHawk makes it very clear that it transformed from a fighter plane.
>>94628774That's okay, WiGE should never have been imported from Shadowrun in the first place.
>>94628783Yeah I know, still a shame though.
>>94628805This weekend I hope on getting some Spooky Teddies paintedI also have a Crockett I got I got inspired to do a really scuffed pirate version. I was thinking only the center front tirso is gonna have a tiger pattern and the rest will be shitty scratched and burnt look like they only bother keeping the one area painted
>>94628933>Like the Champion!I'd say the Champion LAM's design was fine, everything in the fluff says the problem was the weight of a heavy mech stressing out the conversion gears in the hips, otherwise it worked perfectly fine. If it had been reduced down to a 55 ton medium, it'd probably have been adopted by the SLDF. Unfortunately it seems like the company developing the Champion LAM was facing financial issues at the time so they abandoned the project to focus on churning our their established mech lines for needed much needed profit.
>>94628907>I don't understand why Bimodal exists in its current form. You would think that the logical missing link is a variable fighter with only gerwalk mode as the sole transformation.It's because the Shadow Hawk LAM and Phoenix Hawk LAM were developed around the same time independently of each other, because the SLDF were trying to figure out a variant of flying mech to push their different military branches to work together more. The Shadow Hawk LAM, which was presented first, was based around a bimodel, but the first couple iterations had major flaws that forced it back to the drawing board. By the time they fixed those issues the Phoenix Hawk LAM had been finished and presented, showing off the triple model which the SLDF adopted for further development and research. The Shadow Hawk LAM, despite having been fixed and perfectly functional, was decommissioned, and the prototype Bimodel conversion gear was left to die.
>>94628947I always want to use the Crockett because I like the way it looks, I like its lore, and my favorite faction uses it, but the BV is always prohibitive and it's an ammo bomb so I always end up using a Thug instead.
>>94628758Technically speaking, LAMs could come back at any time because of the New Dallas core. At least the Stinger, Wasp, and Phoenix Hawk.
>>94628907>You would think that the logical missing link is a variable fighter with only gerwalk mode as the sole transformation.That would be logical if the concept was "What if a fighter turned into a mech", but it was "What if a mech became a fighter".
>>94629048Makes it sound like the original designers had some engineer's brand of tunnel vision when trying to design what they were told to make without taking a step back and actually looking at what the end product what ended up being and how to improve it.
>>94629009I was talking about it in a meta fashion. From the developer's perspective, why spend the time to add this when the official policy is "try to forget LAMs exist"?>>94629048Given the fact that the basis of the original LAMs was very much the former since they look exactly like a normal atmospheric fighter, it should be considered the rational starting point. But now we have these absolutely butt ugly retcon designs throwing a wrench into that.
>>94629065>Tries to get rid of LAMs>still constantly reference LAMs in different books>Quadvees >Urbie LAMAt this point CGL are the ones who can't forget.
>>94629081Frankly I'm just surprised CGL has enough self control to not put out a Superheavy Urbanmech yet
>>94629040And Shadow Hawk, although why would you? But not the Screamer, unfortunately. While the SLDF did get their hands on its plans, the New Dallas facility stopped getting updated at the start of the Amaris situation, so if the plans ever went anywhere it was with the Exodus.
>>94628806>tfw no mad 2 LAMIt already has wings.
>>94629117give it time
>>94629081That's because there's a lot of folks at CGL who want LAMs.Just not Herb. And Randall refuses to undo Herb's dictates for some reason.
>>94629117They've got to canonize the UrbanMaster and UrbanKnight first. It wouldn't even be hard, the joke explanations for them are already fairly reasonable, with the master being a double-heavy urbanmech designed for Solaris police who might very well be facing down real battlemechs on a semi-regular basis and the knight being a Solaris gladiator with a wrestling style mythos attached.
>>94629144It's about time BT gets combiners.
>>94629064Well remember that more than just making a mech turn into a fighter, it's making already extant mechs turn into fighters. Which in all sorts of ways is extra ridiculous, but such is fitting for BT.
>>94629146>The ongoing battle between Rule-of-CoolTech vs clunky TurretTech>will the fighting ever end?
>>94629140Funny enough, there's a fic about a guy trying to bring back LAMs during the early 3000s, including refining the concept and designing new LAMs. A few commenters wanted the writer to design pic related and call it the Timber Wolf for obvious reasons.
Well the Bluetooth keyboard I bought for my tablet turned out to not be bluetooth, so I can't get any prose written tonight. Instead I'm doing some character concepts for members of Cobalt Company after they go merc. >Marissa Naikos: Sanguine. Marissa is a natural leader and born socialite, fourth child of a petty noble family. Mechwarrior and current official CO, pilots a Bushwacker. >Kyle Stepanian: Choleric. Kyle is an aggressive fighter and perpetual optimist who tends to make friends, but keeps quiet about his past. >Jezza: Melancholic. A former member of the clan Technician caste, Jezza is aloof, most comfortable with a welder or multimeter. He's pessimistic, planning for the worst and often getting it. He's the company's lead MechTech. >Pham Hien: Phlegmatic. An accountant from, of all places, Vietnam on Terra itself, Hien is quiet about her reasons for leaving Humanity's homeworld. Even tempered and thoughtful, Hien is cautious and often serves as a sounding board for the other three. Hien is the company's purser.
>>94629231LAMs were in production until 3051 when the Nova Cats channeled all of Herb's petty autism and attacked the last manufacturer for the express purpose of melting the factory down to its foundation and destroying every single LAM and LAM part down to the tiniest nuts and bolts.
>>94629231What obvious reason?Anyway, the Adder would be a pimp-ass LAM.
>>94629248Yeah but they were still produced in all of one factory in the DC, the rest were blown up lostech just like all the other advanced mechs were during the early Succession Wars. The MC in the fic was born in the LC and trying to re-establish them from scratch.
>>94629262To mess with Clanners whenever they show up I guess, though honestly if newer LAMs worked better then the old Star League LAMs then clans like Jade Falcon would probably want them rather than being pissed by them like how Nova Cat was.
>>94629287No one would care if it shared a name with the Timber Wolf. If you really want to piss some Clanners off then you'd name it the Nova Cat LAM. That would make Clan Nova Cat go nuclear.
>>94629204Yes. When Alpha Strike takes over everything and Classic is allowed to die away with the rest of the useless grogs.
>>94629262>Anyway, the Adder would be a pimp-ass LAM.My friend, it basically already is. The Penetrator medium fighter from Renegade Legion is essentially an Adder LAM where the cowl splits and hinges upwards at the back to expose a couple more guns.
We need a Spider LAM to be the ultimate menace.
>>94629439What would it look like in ASF mode?
>>94629584just a jetpack and rotated cockpit, maybe little cubby holes for the arms to fold into
>>94628423Typhoon513's take on it looks decent.
>>94628805Wrapping up a few emergency paint jobs at work for Friday's AD&D game. Christmas break is going to be all commission painting: 75 Mechs, 30 ASFs, 300 elementals.
>>94627115Who is this semen demon
>>94629714Rem Alternis, CGL community director
>>94624022#So why are pukse lasers more accurate rather than harder hitting? This shit makes no sense.
>>94629842Because lasers that hit easier was a niche that wasn't filled already while lasers that hit harder was.
>>94629842They're both. Notice a MPL is 6 damage to a regular ML doing 7
>>94629932*doing 5I am at work with a headache.
>>94629842Covered in the novels all the way back in the Warrior trilogy. You can literally walk a pulse laser burst into a target. Stop being a secondary and read the source material.
>>94629938>the Warrior trilogy>source materialare you having a laugh?
>>94629942Welcome, 40k refugee, to Battletech! The Battletech novels are the highest form of canon in this significantly superior franchise, and will directly override things published in sourcebooks or tabletop rules. I realize that is strange and frightening to your double digit IQ, but over time you will get used to the concept. And you may as well get started right now.
>>94629842>The pulse laser uses rapid-cycling, high-energy pulses to generate mul-tiple laser beams, creating an effect comparable to machine-gun fire. But because the staggered pulses give the protective ablation products from combat armor a chance to disperse—to expose fresh armor to subsequent pulses—the result is a burst of fire that is more effective and accurate. Originally developed by the Terran Hegemony, pulse lasers run cooler than ER lasers and pack a little more punch than standard lasers, but have a shorter effective range than either type. These weapons were popular on faster hunter/killer designs, which could close faster and benefit from the ability to land solid damage even on the fly.
>>94629938And a standard laser instead causes the myomers to lock up whenever it fires?It's just a pure meta gameplay thing, that is all there is to it. Pulse lasers have more accuracy because it was decided as such.
>>94629957The absolute irony of calling someone a refugee while being so fucking wrong.
>>94629932Pulse lasers aren't technically harder hitting in that they laser harder, it's because the burst is spaced out and allows slag and vapor to fall away before firing at the armor underneath.They do more damage, but it's not because they're stronger lasers in the sense most people would think.
>>94629973...exactly what part of that do you think proves anon wrong? That isn't saying what you think it says. It just says not to confuse fiction with rules, but if you're asking a question about how the game universe works, then the fiction is the highest form of source.
>>94629973>there is is, the fucking stupidest anon I'll see all dayThat just says that fiction and rules are different, not that the novels aren't the highest form of canon. Imagine posting what you think is a rebuttal only to not have read the actual thing you're posting, and end up looking like a complete fucking retard.
>>94629982>and will directly override things published in sourcebooks or tabletop rules.That part, specifically
mechs in 3025: were they so rare that you have to love the assassin or the cicada only held by with duck tapes because no one has means to fix it, or they are everywhere that mechs are used in fighting in every planet in the inner sphere and even a periphery pirates can muster an army?
>>94629965I think the issue is that it simply states they're more accurate without properly elaborating on how they're more accurate.Regular lasers are a sustained beam, pulse lasers are staggered beams, but what's stopping you from walking the stustained beam onto the target?To properly compare two things, you must be able to explain what thing B can do AND what thing A cannot do.
>>94629994Most mechs in 3025 are privately owned by hereditary owners who then bring their mech to a military or paramilitary organization. The handful of mechs on a random planet either belong to that planets noble families or mercenaries hired by that planets government, or are there as part of a deployment with the state military. Regional capitals and worlds on contested borders might have whole regiments of military units along with a significant number of locally owned mechs.
>>94629994The good mechs are rare, but if it's one of the bug trio you can always find enough of them to be an opposing force.
>>94629989That means you can't take a Mech doing a backflip in the fiction and expect it to do that in the rules you idiot. That's all that's intended to speak for.
>>94630037Why the fuck not? If i want to fluff my Jenner doing DarkSouls rolls at 118kph across the battlefield, i should be able to
what if piloting also influenced the accuracy of shots made against that mech?
What are some of your favorite rules from Tac Ops? Personally, I fucking adore disposable waepons. My little grunts chucking 28 grenades at some Firestarter's cockpit is hilarious.
>>94630052>Making obnoxious +4 TMM's even harder to hitNo thank you
>>94630060>he cant deal with 4 tmmLmao
>>94630059heat going over 30. I like to push my limits.
>>94630050And that's exactly why they wrote that. You can't point to the fluff and say that you have to be allowed to do it on the tabletop.But this whole conversation isn't about tabletop rules at all, which is why what >>94629973 posted is completely pointless.>>94629842 asked why pulse lasers are more accurate. The explanation is given in the fluff. You can walk them into a target like MG tracer. That is the reason, and it's from the novels. This is completely a conversation about lore, and therefore the novels are the final word.
>>94630067All these assertions and nothing to back it up.
Do you guys collect/field multiple duplicate mechs? (like, 3 centurions, 2 warhammers, etc)
>>94630071What source would you accept?
>>94630076Nothing from the OF, nothing from Sarna, nothing from a fiction book or source book. If it's not said in a rulebook then it doesn't matter. Post a direct quote from a published rulebook that is currently in print that says novels are more canon than rulebooks, or concede the argument. And post it in a format that we can agree isn't photoshopped or changed to support your argument.
>>94630059Expanded crits, i like the "damaged, but still functional" instead of the "one and done" on the big weapons
>>94630086Got a copypasta for people like youDo you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered. You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven't provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven't. I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
>>94630052Funny you got followed up by >>94630059, because TacOps has rules for that, look up evasion and specifically Skilled Evasion. But note that you can't attack while evading.
>>94630002Is there an optional rule to simulate this instead of a binary hit or miss system, much like how it naturally occurs in bideogames? Within X digits from the target to-hit number, a hit is still registered using a fraction any laser's listed damage, with a greater percentage dealt the closer your roll is to the target. ie. off by 1 deal 75% rounded down, off by 2 = 50%, off by 3 = 25%, more than that is full miss.
>>94630106I mean just passively, just as gunnery inherently influences outgoing shots.
>>94630059Grenades are fun, but V-LAWs are actually terrifying. Same damage, triple the price (oh no it's 1.5 BV instead of 0.5!), and it has decent range. And if you wanna splurge, regular LAWs are a little under twice the cost of LAWs, with slightly more damage and double the range.Disposable weapons fucking rule. Love em.
>>94630113There is, actually:TacOps, p.78Weapons fi re in standard rules is almost always a straight-up hit or miss af f air. However, not all shots are created equal. Some shots barely hit the target, while others are more perfectly center-lined. The following advanced rules ref l ect the dif f erences that can exist even between multiple successful hits.Glancing Blow Any time a dice roll result for a weapon or physical attack is exactly the number needed for the attack to strike its target, the hit is considered a glancing blow. For example, if you need to roll a 9 or better to hit the target, a result of 9 would be a glancing blow. A result of 10 or greater would be a normal hit.A glancing blow inf l icts half the normal damage against the target (rounded down). In the case of weapons that roll on the Cluster Hits Table, apply a –4 modif i er to the dice roll result on the Cluster Hits Table. This modif i er never reduces a roll on the table below 2.A glancing blow is also less likely to cause critical damage. To ref l ect this, apply a –2 modif i er to the die roll result on the Determining Critical Hits Table if a glancing blow yields the pos-sibility of a critical hit; if using the Advanced Determining Critical Hits rule (see p. 83), apply a –4 modif i er.The Glancing Blow rule does not apply to damage that does not require a to-hit roll, such as falling damage. It also does not apply to non-damaging attacks such as TAG. All-or-nothing attacks such as Streak missile launchers cannot have glancing blows. If using the Linking Weapons rule (see p. 83), the entire linked group is considered a glancing blow.
>>94630120>a little under twice the cost of LAWsMeant to say "a little under twice the cost of V-LAWs"
>>94630124>>94630113Theres also a few more rules that can adjust the damage and cluster hits based on Margin of error/success amd even what kind of intervening terrain there is, for example reducing the cluster roll if shooting through woods, to simulate some of the missiles colliding with trees
>>94629703Two Type I's, a Type V, a Displacer Beast, and some stoney boy. Sounds like fun
>>94629989That is not what it says.
>>94630206>fiction, ... ,should never be construed as rulesI dont know how it can get clearer than that
Rules don't override what happens in canon anon.
>>94630238Only rules matter.
HONOR THE DRAGON!!
>>94630285Morgan Kell > rulesCheckmate, atheist.
The 6th MAC was able to run off some Clan Wolf interlopers this weekend. An elite Mad Cat and Highlander IIC challenged Berg Lance to a fight and bit off more than they could chew. The twin Saladins from the augmented lance crippled the Highlander IIC early, leaving him easy pickings for the Duan Gung while the Jinggau, Spartan, and Huron Warrior eviscerated the Mad Cat. Despite flanking the Spartan and ripping up it's back armor with PPCs, the Clanner was unprepared for how durable reinforced structure could be and failed to crit even a single component. For his troubles, he got his kneecaps broken, fell unconscious, and then was unceremoniously stomped into the pavement. The Highlander IIC surrendered soon after. Berg Lance's only casualties of note was the skirt on one of the Saladins; otherwise they claimed victory with only armor damage. A crushing victory for the Big MAC and yet another reminder to my opponent that he really needs to bring more numbers.
Update. Despite saying I wouldn't be up for writing prose tonight, hammered out 1300 words for a shrapnel submission. So that went well.
>>94630285At that point anon you should just play with coins and maps sheets with plain text written on em.
>>94630373What's your mandatory LGBTQIA+ inclusion's role in it?
>>94630387That was in my previous submission, which got accepted and is in the revision pipeline so I figure I can skip. This one is a simple story of personal betrayal and revenge with an industrialmech.
>>94629760That swollen sack wishes.
>>94630389You wrote a KILLDOZER story??
>>94630396Funnily enough no, because the Industrialmech pilot is out for revenge against a Battlemech pilot, so its an ambush against someone much scarier. But that would be cool.
>>94630408>>94630389Fuck, that's cool. I'd love to read it whenever it's ready.
>>94630414Well if I'm lucky, it'll eventually be in Shrapnel. If it get rejected out of hand. I'll probably drop it here.
I challenge you to a special trial of possession, special in order to test our very specific claims to martial honor! You will deploy all your ground to air defenses around a defense target, and we will bid only just enough strike assets to make a single destructive pass at it. What constitutes a defense target is up to you. Victory goes to the one who successfully defends or destroys the target! Do you accept this batchall?
>>94630408Don't forget to capitalize the M in -Mech before you submit it. The fools will publish entire sourcebooks with egregious spelling errors and format fuckups and never apologize for being retards, but will sperg out like howler monkeys if you don't abide by their FASA-era strictures on in-universe terminology in prose.
>>94630387Real talk, that shit is a meme. I managed to submit a story that got published a few years back and they edited it to be a lot less gay. Not actually gay myself, it just sort of happened. I think I came across one of those "men writing women" memes while working on it and just decided to write the main character as gay as a thought experiment to see if I could write somebody attracted to men and what they would focus on and most of that stuff was what wound up getting cut for length. I dunno how deliberate it was, none of it was too explicit but there it is.
>>94630434I'm discord buddies with a successful BT author who will remain unnamed who I'll ask to look over it for stuff like that first. >>94630436Makes sense, one of the submission requirements is not being overly focused on romance.
>>94630382You don't?
>>94630439You can just say "Brian Young".I'd say we won't judge you for it, but clearly we will. Maybe you can get your PC in Legends III!
>>94630439I sent in a submission like three years ago and it got rejected (no great surprise), but the rejection letter came attached with a literal shopping list of "how to write in BattleTech-speak in your story", and it listed the "must be written as BattleMech, IndustrialMech, etc", 'Mech is how it's shortened, 'Mech class names must be italicized, and so on. I found it ludicrously pedantic, and often violated in actual novels, so never submitted again. "Rules for thee and not for me," is a bad system to run a business on.
>>94630434Did they give up on the apostrophe in 'Mech?
>>94629994In 3025 the assassin is kind of sick.Jump 7 means you basically never get hit. Worst case scenario the opponent needs 8s to hit you. Most likely 10s or better. Only the spider does 'jumping kickbot' better.
>>94630468[Spoiler]It's not actually Brian Young.[/Spoiler]
>>94630476The s's need to be lower case.
>>94630469>"Rules for thee and not for me," is a bad system to run a business on.CGL doesn't want to pay editors, but if people are willing to edit themselves for free...
>>94630481If only Brian Young could have given him editing tips on spoiler formatting.
>>94630471Probably not.
>>94630390>>94630390No, dude, seriously. That's Rem, just given a glow up by the artist (which I assume cost a LOT of money). That is recognizably her. Nobody would actually put those fat cheeks into a character on purpose, unless they were doing an impression of an actual person.
>>94630476My money's on Daniel Isberner
>>94630506>>94630506You can't post that tranny shit here man. If Bottom isn't allowed to be a tranny in these threads, you cannot post THAT.
>>94630518>She's not even a tranny
Any idea when we're getting the Hinterlands book in the Mega? Or if not, how can I help make that happen?
>>94630506Kerensky's swollen nutsack, you're right.Oof.
>>94630506dios mio la creaturashe must give phenomenal head
I know they don't have neurohelmets, but do Industrialmechs have gyros?
>>94630606They do. All mechs can be piloted without a neurohelmet, even battlemechs, but the helmet is needed to keep your balance while ducking and weaving and bounding across uneven terrain. Anyone who knows how to pilot can walk any mech across a bay or down a street in calm conditions without the use of a neurohelmet.
Canonically FWL BA platoons consist of 20 troopers (5x4) instead of the usual 16 (4x4) arranged in 5 squads of 4.In order to fit that with a lance of omnimechs, could I get away with using 4 squads of 5 instead? Or am I forced to use a vehicle with more than one squad worth of carrying capacity here
>>94630615You can do whatever you like. No one's checking how well your list meets the fluff except you and maybe your opponent.
>>94630615The platoon you are fielding has already taken four casualties in an earlier battle. Very sad. They were each a single day from retirement, and leave behind six grieving wives.
>>94630615Fluffwise you'd probably be carrying them in a platoon of five transport vehicles - since the FWL vehicle platoon varies from 4-6 - but noting is stopping you from running only four if that's what you want
>>94630628Not old Johnny six wives! He didn't deserve to go out like that. Truly a heavy loss
>>94629040>>94629134imho Screamer and other Amaris situation hegemony products could have very well have been disseminated to other sldf intelligence archives. I think i recall the SLDF getting some designs that were Amaris commissioned but decided not to bother since they lacked the infrastructure and production capability to pull them off since they were outside the hegemony.So who knows. could be the New Dallas facility was still updated occasionally simply from being in the mailing list, and institutional inertia once the hegemony got reconquered, and the sldf resettled into their royal facilities.I do recall the New Dallas militia fighting mariks after the exodus, so in between that and the battle on terra mk3 (if you count mckenna and the amaris coup itself) the sldf could have reverted back to standard modus operandi, which would include dumping their technical mech intel to the proper address, that being New Dallas. At least that is how i would see it working. It took Kerensky quite some time to convince the SLDF to go for the exodus, and not all went. So until that was beginning to be planed, they have had to go and reclaim as much of their functioning infrastructure as possible. New Dallas data core surviving would make it likely that it got at least one or two data dumps before the hegemony fell. After all all the royals were hegemony boys, well the 1 in 20 still alive, and would have wanted to make a fight for the hegemony.The issue with LAMs is cost. No one has the funds to operate them at scale, outside of one prestige unit at most, or one or two attached to very exclusive units as specialists. The only ones who could pull it off were comstar/wob when they could print money not only through hpg bills but also through tech transfer deals.
>The position of Director-General of the Terran Hegemony was the post held by the ruler of the Terran Hegemony.funny, I thought director general wasn't very high position irl
>>94630755the terran hegemony was the only one that larped at being a democracy. well a guided consolidated democracy like germany would like to be where only the right people win elections and those will be repeated until the right results come in.
>>94630728That's actually a good point, it's easy to forget that Kerensky and the SLDF didn't up and leave right after Amaris was executed. He stayed around for quite a while trying to convince the Great Lords to chill before giving up. It's completely possible that even the Post-Amaris projects were recorded. I mean hell, the Clans based the Stone Rhino on Amaris' Matar boondoggle. Sure it was to one up him, but the fact they were still aware it existed well after the first couple generations of SLDF exiles were dead and gone gives credence to the idea that they recorded even the projects that started after the coup.
>>94630786>the terran hegemony was the only one that larped at being a democracyThe FWL larp too to be fair, they consider themselves the last true democracy despite being ruled mostly by Nobility and having the Captain-General position monopolized by a single family. Then there's the Fedsuns, which started our as a an actual federal democracy and was outright couped by the Davions, who were already running the place to begin with, and somehow spun it as a great win for the Fedsuns. The fact no one ever looks back at that and question the ethics around it really goes to show just how good the Davions are at presenting themselves as the good guys.
Update on that shrapnel submission. 3300 words written overnight. Story pieces are all in place and the climax is ready to be written. A backup has been saved in case something horrible happens to my phone.
>>94630318>phantom mechDid ANY explanation of this ever come about? And why the fuck is it so op? >real life >oh no my targeting systems can't get a lock!>follow my tracers!>Kell dies >scenario 2>oh no my targeting systems can't get a lock!>dragons fury this is dragon 1-actual fire mission grid coordinates 420-69 fire 1 round stand by for correction >shot out>Kell>hehe my phantom-BLAM>dragons fury good effect on target fire at will! >Kell screaming>infantry with FG/SRM's>Kell dies
>>94630606Yes, but your piloting is limited to "walk in a straight line at 10kph. >but-Construction equipment and techs moving mechs from bay to bay don't need to move fast.
>>94630937>The FWL larp too to be fair, they consider themselves the last true democracy despite being ruled mostly by Nobility and having the Captain-General position monopolized by a single family.ermmm... the FWL are a democratic federation, as in the federated members vote. What they do on their own world is their own problem.So i would not call them the most democratic larpers but the most freedom larpers as in the central government does not tell you what to do. except when the marik millitia is dropping on your head for the latest marik v marik war. because you backed the wrong marik.so in a way they are correct. they have very frequent reset to actual values events, where it is demonstrated who can get the big boy boots and who not.>Then there's the Fedsuns, which started our as a an actual federal democracy and was outright couped by the Davions, who were already running the place to begin with, and somehow spun it as a great win for the Fedsuns. The fact no one ever looks back at that and question the ethics around it really goes to show just how good the Davions are at presenting themselves as the good guys.they do not count. sure they managed a fantastically longlived dynasty that pulled of somehow keeping on message to the dynastic brand, but that was done by every successor lord and the major three perifery states.The Terran Hegemony actually larped as a democracy through its existence. but as a 'managed' democracy, with very heavy bureaucratic controls and limits that imho is some weird de facto soviet politbureau being a filter with exams and shit on who can run for what functions all over their state.FWL just elects what marik they want. or someone close enough to the family, since the marik space are the largest military recruitment pool so you do not have a fwl without a Marik to lead said forces.fedsuns did not larp for long enough to count.
Did the Inner Sphere factions fight among themselves even during the Clan Invasion?
>>94631048The point was there wasn't supposed to be a real explanation, it's on the reader. Is it a real phenomenon? Was it just superstition coming from the inherent irrationality of the cult of the MechWarrior mentality so prevalent in the setting shining through? Did Morgan Kell and Yorinaga unlock some hidden SLDF feature built into mechs that was lost to time? Did they just find a special ECM equipment that couldn't be reproduced without SLDF space magic and the Phantom Mech thing was just a cover to keep everyone else off DC and FedCom's backs? Was it just their long owned mechs picking up on their PTSD and mistakenly registering their pilots as dead?We'll never know, all we do know is Herb is a no-fun, autistic asshole who just can't leave the mystery alone.
>>94630506I'd hit that.....with a TSM berserker in melee
>>94631101Yeah, because ultimately the Clans were an overblown and ever only really threatened the northern half of the IS.
>>94630937>>94631092>FWL Captain General>the emergency >oh no he dies>next Marik>yay I'm the Captain now!>real life>noHonestly the FWL should go full "democracy" and be the shining example of why it's a bad idea with the Homo Spheroid population.>"fortified" elections >illegal immigrants and zombies voting>computer malfunctions >ComStar brand voting computers and instant HPG election results!
>>94631106of course, we know you wouldn't cheat on your boyfriend bottom
>>94631106Too bad you can't hit it with a car.
>>94631103>superstition Unless they were both completely psychopathic to the point of rejecting objective reality (which they aren't) this dosen't make sense.>ECM/SLDF software If that was a thing Cumstar would have unlocked that and the WOB would go from "oh that's bad" to "JESUS FUCKING CHRIST". >dead Wouldn't the mech just fall over?
>>94630506Ok
>>94631200Damnit meant for >>94627270
>>94631154hahaaaaaa too bad you can't be fuckin original for once
>>94631151shocker a 4chins user instantly thinks of cuckolding.this place is reddit now
>>94631224no one said anything about cuckolding you gimplearn to read
>>94631127>Honestly the FWL should go full "democracy" and be the shining example of why it's a bad idea with the Homo Spheroid population.they literally can not. it is in the name. 'free worlds league' as in it is a league of free worlds, and it is a bit of a misnomer since some worlds are micro interstellar polities but w/e. each member ''world'' gets a vote for Captain General, which is a bit wierd imho, since it should be either by federal taxes paid in as it was at the start of the fwl or something like that, but i guess there was a political calculus to that. either way it is not a free peoples league but a free worlds league. don't like how your planet is run? go to another one. that is why imho the fwl is not a democracy larp but a freedom larp. and it is why they need to have the occasional civil war to demonstrate who is able to commit to a thing and who has the might to pull it off, as the marik commonwealth on its own can not hardcarry it all, so, you know depending on the position of the various mariks all other memeber states rally behind the one they like most, the marik militia splits of roughly equally and then it is shown who is the one most fitting to be the captain general by literal trial by fire, as the main job of the captain general is to rally the full might of the fwl.what you want is what the hegemony had, in a way but differently. remember my mentioning the approved candidate list(tm)? with that you do not need all other options as the elections come prefortified. it is what means to be a consolidated democracy.electoral fortification as we have seen in the us is what happens when a non consolidated democracy tries to get consolidated democracy results without being one.
>>94631230TLDR and NNRU
>>94631242>11 words>too long didn't read>I'm too retarded to read one sentence how is it with every response you implicate yourself further?
>>94631242What in the goddamn-
>>94631250implicate what you fucking nerd?here you go with that fag talk again
>>94631262the more bullet the deader they'll be
>>94631264If three syllable words overwhelm you google can helpAgain, with each post your "owns" amount to >I'm VERY fucking retardedand I'm not sure of your endgame at this point, do you get off on this? or are you genuinely some inbred highschool dropout?
>>94631208As soon as you stop falling for the bait every single time we will stop using it.
Did a clear blue over a few mechs from this set. Been doing little details here and there. Still needs a few things done and maybe a touch up here and there with the clear blue.
>>94631313Honestly ANY paint is fine, I'm just playing with cardboard cutouts right now lamo.
>>94631311>inb4 Im JuSt ReSpOnDiNg
>>94631262Wrong barrel twist rate for that length/weight ammo, so the bullets tumble in mid air instead of spinning.
>>94631506nah you're coping and.....SEETHING>>94631311nigga your life is fucking dull if this is what you do all day, i bet you enjoy brutalist architecture
>>94631601Yeah, I know probably 70+gr in a 1:12 .223 or some shit.
>>94631299tldr glad you admitted you're retarded, congrats on coming out of the ball pit.
>>94631601nah man, curving the bullets like in that one movie
>>94631795>no u sad, but what can you expect from a tard who can't pass his driver exam
>>94631795That urbie making me act unwise..
>>94631836no u no u, owned fagboy!now go cry in your cuck corner while we have fun.
>>94631783Blocking users is the one redfit feature I'd like to have
>>94627270Bombardier 10L, a Capellan refit, provides long range support with a distinct anti-infantry and anti-vehicle leanreplace the 2xLRM20 with 8xLRM5, because Liao has a shortage of LRM20s. You get better consistency of LRM damage, and more individual hits for better anti-infantry and fishing for vehicle crits. 4 tons of LRM ammo overallSRM4 stays, but only mounts inferno ammo for more anti infantry and vehicleAdd 2 machine guns in arms, for even better anti infantryOverall the anti infantry specialisation will make it distinct from the archer and crusader, while keeping its original weapons and firepower.
>>94631365Will be a month or two before there are any games locally. Would like to give it a try. Only experience is from 20+ years ago with some weirdo air force guys doing an rpg campaign.
>>94629269>>94629231Just read it.Fiddlesticks and Bumstones, the author stole a march on me getting rid of mech mode in writing, while I am at only 4k word draft and probably 90k minimum to even get there.Oh well, it's not like it was some completely novel idea. It has been said by me and others that the only reason for lams is airmech mode scouting and strafing then strategic redeployment via asf mode.I mean that was the LAM mantra of the /btg/ for years. Not surprising someone managed to put pen to paper and make a story of it. Still slightly bummed I did not get there first.
>>94631946you have fun? you get maybe one post out before shrieking incoherently about something againguess you really do get off on it then
>>94631990you can filter namefags
>>94631234Nobody directly votes for the Captain-General, each province selects parliament members however they choose to do that and parliament theoretically elects someone to be the Warden of the Border Protectorates, which by default is the commander-in-chief of all military units near the national border. The Warden becomes the Captain-General (commander-in-chief of all military units everywhere) in the event of a war. Over the centuries, the Captain-General has gained wild expansions to the scope of their power, including emergency powers with no defined end and several further powers that amount to being able to fully veto parliament in any matter related to selecting the next Captain-General. Parliament still retains some amount of control, mostly by being the ones who write laws, including the annual budget bill. The Captain-General has a lot of influence, but parliament has been able to cut across it by refusing to pass certain things. Sometimes including the national budget.
>>94632227Yeah but then I still see the dimbasses who bicker with them
>>94632488that's almost everyone, you'd pretty much never have a conversation in /btg/ again
MerlinHermes II--Aside from bugs, what else goes in this cheap mercenary lance?
>>94632137Sorry to hear that. I'd still love to read your story though. LAMs don't get used enough and I'm always happy to see them.
Newest Battle Report is up, Jihad-Era scenario in which a Blakist level II defends a facility that is about to be ICBM'd by House Davion. However, before the missile hits, a MIIO operation is mounted to try and rescue a defecting scientist before the strike hits home. With 80 seconds to go before impact, will the Davion force be able to spring the scientist or will it be for nothing?
>>94632985Phoenix Hawk Centurion Stalker is relatively cheap and ubiquitous for an Assault Hunchback
>>94631103>can't leave the mystery alone.Mysteries are required to be solved. Having a setting with unknown elements is bad writing. Everything must be explained and must be explainable.
>>94630728>No one has the funds to operate them at scale, outside of one prestige unit at most, or one or two attached to very exclusive units as specialistsExcept the SLDF literally did, and there were entire battalions of LAMs even at the end of the Succession Wars. There was a "counting LAMs" project in the OF years ago, going through all of the material up through the clan invasion, and they came back with a count of a base minimum of about 400 operating LAMs in the Inner Sphere by the war of 3039. That's a LOT, more LAMs than several Mech types nobody blinks at. The SLDF operated LAM companies in several regimental types, notably CAANs and independent striker regiments, and they would have had a absolute minimum of 12 regiments worth of LAMs JUST from the CAAN and striker units, even assuming no others were found anywhere.
>>94632995Good stuff.
>>94632995>Adept Cain huffing copium over being a shit pilot by thinking his King Crab just likes to be submergedkek
I need your advice, /btg/. I'm currently working on a Comstar Atlas. Should I paint the skull gold to indicate it's a command unit, or just leave it white?
>>94633246Make the skull even whiter.
>>94633246Do gold pauldron trim.
>>94631092I LOVE THE FWLPURPLE BURB FOREVER
>>94631127>Honestly the FWL should go full "democracy" and be the shining example of why it's a bad idea with the Homo Spheroid population.How about we fucking not
>>94633306>>94633310The FWL is so dysfunctional a fake Marik was a better Captain-General than almost any actual Marik before him was.
>>94633337Just goes to show that the roman system of adopting the most competent heir is superior to the germanic system of automatically handing everything to the oldest son.
Huh, so for the Mad Cat the missile boxes are its torso but for the Catapult the missile boxes are its arms?
>>94633413And sometimes things in the legs are actually on the hips. And things dead center on art and models is actually in a side torso.
>>94633381Japan does that too FYI.>>94633413Apparently.
>>94633457So did Numenor, eventually.
>>94633428>apparently the upcoming grand dragon model will be the one with mrm20 on its ltI wonder what will it look like
>>94633413THE ARISTOCRATS!
>>94633413Yeah. Why are you questioning it? Its got a different design philosophy.
>>94633562I hate this. Should've been the Dragon II with the Arrow IV rather than another near-identical Grand Dragon
>>94634124Actually it should've been the No-Dachi, given how the other mechs in the pack are the Shiro and Rokurokubi
So on tabletop, the Clan omnimechs aren't necessarily better than the Clan battlemechs/Cs and IICs? When you don't use the Elementals?
>>94634148Correct. The only tactical advantage of an omni is the ability to carry battle armor. Their advantages are more on the operational level, but individual games don't cover that. Campaigns do.
>>94634141Someday....
>>94634186New question: do you think that they have picrel in the Magistracy? If so, is it just dumb plastic surgery or a Star League-era cyberboob that can dispense tequila?
>>94634192I think you should switch to firefox and get an ad blocker
>>94633962More like "different art philosophy".
>>94634197But then how would I know about all of the trans teens ready to show me picks of bob and benis or the scam coins?I've actually discovered a couple decent musicians.
>>94633413The Mad Cat's missile boxes are built into the torso and have no articulation. The Catapult's rest on actuators, allowing them to rotate vertically, even up to 180 degrees to fire backwards.
>>94634199I wouldn't say that, the missile boxes on the Timber Wolf are clearly connected to the body of the mech, whereas the Catapult's arms are so stubby that the boxes completely cover them, but they can still move around. They may look similar, but their differences make complete sense.
I painted the IS command lance. Need to do the details on these, cockpits, lazors etc.
>>94634231A wash would also help, and perhaps thinning thy paints
>>94634199Ehh even the old designs the Catapuls boxs look like they can rotate while the Timber Wolf had the boxes bolted onto the torso.
>>94634192>New question: do you think that they have picrel in the Magistracy? If so, is it just dumb plastic surgery or a Star League-era cyberboob that can dispense tequila?I mean given Star League Medical Tech, they could probably do both as well as genetically engineering the trait on top of bioforming organic extra breasts.
>>94634231good job. take a picture from further away?>>94633109Hunchback LAM?
>>94634239Im quite sure they have whatever your particular fetish (and quite a few you didnt know you had) is
someone please post that pic with mermaid brothel or something
>>94634341
>>94634350>Someone else posts an old edit I madeI'm humbled, I feel I've truly honored the Dragon this day.
Hypothetically speaking:If the Colonial Marines WERE a thing in Battletech, and had access to battlemechs, what kinds of mechs do you think they’d typically be rocking? Because I’m not entirely sure what myself. though I can pretty safely say that they absolutely Wouldn’t be fielding big-mechs! I’m going to guess they’d have some very strong opinions about bug mechs, and none are positive
>>94634341I couldn't find it, but while I was looking, I saw that in FM:Periphery, the "Military Organization" section is instead called "Military Disorganization".
>>94634341I gotchu, senpai.
How big of fuckups/failures/disgracea would be needed to make bloodnamed warriors demoted to 2nd-line during the Invasion?
>>94634577Thank you
>>94634581During the Invasion, when soldiers are at a premium? Probably a pretty big fuckup.But in general we see that the Clans are incredibly inconsistent on stuff like this and it really matters who the commander in charge is. We've seen officers completely fuck things up and get a slap on the wrist, and officers make minor mistakes and get demoted for it. The Clan also probably matters.
>>94634577Does anyone remember where this is from?
>>94634509They're just generic sci fi infantry.
>>94634234Wash will be done as well. Just gotta get around to it. Some of the paints were tamiya rattle cans. Hard to thin them but I should have decanted some out a can. >>94634309Thanks. I had the zoom going about 2x.
>>94634581That’d have to be pretty egregious for it to happen.I think that happened to Nickolai Malthus, but…Well the guy was an insufferable, arrogant hot-head who was repeatedly bested by some mercenary band, then made into a caricature on some Lyran propaganda cartoon, tried to sue the studio for defamation (because Lyran courts don’t recognize the legality of clan trials of grievance). He lost the trial (because it’s only defamation if the portrayal is untrue) and got so mad that he attempted to fist fight the judge and got arrested. Clan Jade Falcon did bail him out but relegated him to 2nd line command. So I guess it would take being made into a laughingstock to get such a demotion.
My local shop got their retail kickstarter.
>>94634581Be 30.
>>94634734Gonna swing by tomorrow to grab some items.
>>94634720The 1st Somerset Strikers weren't mercenaries (very important for Clanners).
>>94634734>tfw no egg
>>94634720and then his very slightly tweaked from vanilla prime summoner omni-loadout got famous enough to warrant being codified go figure
>>94634760He was a ristar before the whole Somerset debacle.
>>94634734Those floors and shelves look familiar. Is this in San Antonio?
>>94629938>You can literally walk a pulse laser burst into a target. >>94630067>You can walk them into a target like MG tracer.You can do that with a regular laser even better so this makes zero sense
What the weirdest planet in the Inner Sphere?The early sourcebooks and novels would create interesting native lifeforms or conditions on planets (like Trell and its day/night cycle).
>>94634743> very important for Clanners).Not enough to save his reputation apparently >>94634760> then his very slightly tweaked from vanilla prime summoner omni-loadout got famous enough to warrant being codifiedWell yeah, before the invasion he was a highly respected and rapidly rising star within clan douchebag-I mean, clan jade falcon
>>94634819Nope, Albuquerque. Picrel, its in the game room.
When did Storm's Metal Thunder first appear?For some reason I thought they were in the 4th Succession or War of 39 but the only war I can find them fighting in is the FedCom Civil War.
>>94634309>Hunchback LAM?It would have to be based on a swayback variant. I can't ever see a justification for stuffing in an AC when LAMs are tonnage starved as it is.
>>94635078Just use IJJs and a low walking speed
>>94634967They exist as a backstory unit for Norse-Storm, and were allegedly founded in 3024. The earliest source in the sarna article is Field Manual Mercenaries from 1997, but they might also have rated a mention in some of the entries in 1995's TRO 3058, I don't have it handy to check.
>>94635078Embrace the heavy LAM.
If neil blomkamp directed a battletech movie and it was really gorey and gritty would it be epic or reddit
>>94635128Neither, it'd just be bad.
If they make a new Battletech cartoon, which era/event should it cover?
>>94634819Does kinda look like dragons lair at alamo heights.
>>94635179Made for kids or made for young adults?
>>94635179Going by the normal criteria for something like that>burger king kids club aka the amazing human gradient cast>established concept but not stepping on existing toes so they can fill in whatever the writers wantChaos March or Dark Age post wall with a unit of mostly immigrants trying to keep their world going in a furball with a bigger regional warlord as the main threat.
>>94635193The Teen with adult periphery demographic is the right choice. Basically the bracket that Voltron: Legendary Defender went for.
>>94635202Battletech has always been an 80s diversity setting, newfriend.
>>94635221Thats just what you thinkYou dont own the IP
>>94635221Did I say otherwise? Cartoons require that kind of diversity as well, and that kind of stake. Rootless mercenaries aren't as easy to work with since they'd mostly need to have enough character development to care about each other to the degree a carton would need. Making them care about their world is easier and a callback.So then we need a world that can have people from all over and is also not already thoroughly established. So a core world during a chaotic era. Jihad is out just based on its name, first succession war is too grim. Fedcom civil war or dark age both allow for the exact conditions needed for a cartoon.
>>94635122I mean heavy LAMs are theoretically possible, the Champion LAM was done dirty since the company working on it dropped the project to focus on maximizing their profits instead, but I doubt CGL will ever give us any.
>>94634315>Im quite sure they have whatever your particular fetish (and quite a few you didnt know you had) isMan I love Canopus!
>>94635260>Cartoons require that kind of diversity as well,Well yes, but actually no.
Damn, how the fuck am I supposed to paint CSJ Alpha galaxy's fur spots?
>>94635335To get greenlight for pretty much any publisher it's yes but actually yes. Realistically there's a very narrow range of plots and casts that you will get from a Battletech cartoon unless you make it yourself and self-publish.
>>94635352I say again that a) you are being a crybaby about stuff that was normal in the 80s and b) nearly all professional military units in the setting have always had GI Joe level racial and gender diversity as a matter of course.
>>94635350It's easier than it looks if you break it down. A jaguar's fur pattern is broken irregular donuts. Some of them will look like four dots in a circle or other irregular patterns, but most of them will look like splotchy "C"s with a dot or two or a splotchy line completing the circle.Some people draw the darker dot on the inside which might make it easier, you'll just go around on the model drawing the darker dots and then sloppily outlining them with the "C"s and dots.Remember that what's important isn't what it looks like up close, but what it looks like on the table. If you do them a little too big they might look silly under a magnifying glass, but look perfect when you're playing with them.Pic related are my similarly complicated camo mercenaries. They look hilarious up close (in part because I'm a beginner painter), but they're awesome to see on a mat all together.
>>94635390That chip on your shoulder is medically significant, you should go get it looked at. You're literally imagining that anyone is complaining about diversity here. Cartoons need clear cut ethnic origins. They would not ever make a Japanese character who isn't from the Draconis Combine or Japan, Terra even though we know there are Japanese populations elsewhere. They wouldn't make a German character from anywhere but the Lyran Commonwealth or Germany, Terra. GI Joeing it won't cut it unless the place they're from is devoid of existing associations or already known for being a wild mix.
>>94635406Damn I really like that.
>>94635350This guy >>94635406 lays it out pretty well, I’ve taken a couple of stabs at them before but haven’t found a set of colors that I really love for them; but the pattern is definitely best when painting the center spots first, then doing the dark ring in a splotchy c-shape. The Grendel on the right is done that way. The Timber Wolf was an earlier attempt that had me doing the outer spots and then putting a lighter dot in the middle. Don’t do it that way, it sounds easier but it just doesn’t work right.
>>94635406Nah I think it looks great
>>94635470Yeah no offense but the right looks a lot better
Is it possible to track or follow a JumpShip? Find out where it just jumped?
>>94635220>the bracket that Voltron: Legendary Defender went for.Weeabo Fujoshi?
>>94635319And you have to react as expected too. If you recoil in any way, they would consider that a blemish on their "honor"
>>94635429Then they lack an understanding of the core material. Border worlds change hands all the time, meaning a Chineese Feddie is just as plausible as a German Drac
>>94635530>And you have to react as expected too. If you recoil in any way, they would consider that a blemish on their "honor"Well can I headpat her or NOT?!
>>94635547If you dont, Expect a Trial of Grievance to be waged, with the expected results being a shattered pelvis (not the fun kind)
>>94635505Not really, but many stories treat jumping to non-inhabited solar systems as very difficult or dangerous for poorly explained reasons, so you usually have a pretty good idea about where they went just by knowing who the ship belongs to.
>>94635508Yes. Gotta chase that yaoi girl money.
>>94635505You can find traces that a jump happened and roughly determine the tonnage of the jumper, but if you want to find where it went or came from, you'd have to manually go to all the places it could have gone and hope you find its trail. All you have to do to avoid being traced through that method is jump to odd places. You can jump to any point in space that isn't within a certain amount of gravity, jump points are just the most convenient locations. If you want to risk never being found if something goes wrong, you can jump into the void between stars.
>>94635537Or they believe the audience lacks an understanding of the material. Because they probably would. Nuance is rare in cartoons and "This Japanese guy actually isn't from space Japan!" is too much nuance for most producers to risk.
>>94635352"Diversity" isn't actually a necessity, it's an ulterior directive.
>>94635573>If you dont, Expect a Trial of Grievance to be waged, with the expected results being a shattered pelvis (not the fun kind)Well enough, BUT I'M HERE FOR THE GAP MOE!!!
>>94635644>Did you know that we are not racist here in the year 3025?>Let me explain how not racist we are by taking you aside on your first day in the unit and telling you about how there are no black people in the Otomo.
>>94635674Good luck finding a big name that doesn't have that motive. If everyone requires it, it's a requirement.
>>94635644What are you talking about, its the perfect vehicle to shove in a "dont judge people by their looks" message in there>A: "You're from the FedSuns? But you look like you're from the Combine">B: "My family originally was, then [planet] got taken over by the Davions in [year] and sent me away to study at the NAIS"
What was the reason the the Dragoons warn/reveal about the Clans immediately after the Invasion began but wait for like a year?
>>94635728Please consult a native English speaker to help phrase your question
>>94635697Yes.
>>94635728Out of universe it's more dramatic to do all the trial of position stuff with the heirs, so no one points out that this meeting could have been an email(HPG). There's a lot of poorly thought through stuff that makes it seem like the entire Dragoons command staff got punched in the head a lot as children, which of course they probably did.
>>94635728'that' the Dragoons 'didn't' warndamn it, what is wrong with me
>>94635728>>94635928Warn/reveal what, specifically?
>>94635934That the Clans will be invading and/or who they are
>>94635934An officer of average intelligence in Jamie Wolf's position, having received orders in 3019 to prepare the inner sphere for invasion, would at minimum interview his people and collect and collate all the information available on clan technology and doctrine and put it in a box labeled "break glass when stories about furries start coming in from the coreward periphery."If they were somewhat more ambitious, they could use their industrial contacts to subtly proliferate improved versions of existing technology with the ultimate goal of domestic production of clan grade technology.
>>94635982I thought that the invasion started a bit early due to the outbound light stumbling upon Huntress? How could they warn the IS if they didnt know the details themselves?>>94636004God I wish, the divide between clan-grade and non clan grade is one of the more obnoxious things about mech design in this game.
>>94627115Why does she look like my mum but younger lmao
>>94636019Didn't Natasha got recalled to the Clans before the Invasion began?
>>94636019They don't give an actual briefing and didn't admit they were from the clans until January 3051. Twycross was retaken in September 3050, and Leo Showers died on Halloween.
>>94636030A lot of them did iirc, even got a mention in MW5C
>>94636023hey is your mom single lol
>>94633109Do you have the link to that "counting LAMs" discussion? I couldn't find it myself unfortunately.
>>94632990If I manage to break 30k i think I will post it on QQ. I do not have accounts on other circlejerk forums any more
>>94636389Link it and I'll read it. I like LAMs
>>94633962>do not ask questions, just consume product
>>94635728I've been thinking about it a lot recently because of some fanfiction I'm writing and I decided it's probably because they figured no one would believe them.Though that's super weak, because Hanse Davion trusts Jaime Wolf, and they could have provided some evidence if not necessarily proof.>>94636004>If they were somewhat more ambitious, they could use their industrial contacts to subtly proliferate improved versions of existing technology with the ultimate goal of domestic production of clan grade technology.Maybe they were working up to that? Didn't they only get Outreach like 20 years before the Invasion? They had a lot of work to do.
>>94634231When are you planning to remove mold lines?
>>94636066In Blood of Kerensky, Natasha explicitly says she's the only one who got called back because she was the only surviving Bloodnamed Warrior.>>94636144I bet Rem is. >>94630506
A LAM without mech mode is just a vtol/aero aircraft. Fucking friends, without the mech mode a lam is not a lam fucking friendtards.Youre trying to tell me LAMs are *literally* *exactly* the same as picrel fucking friendtards.
>>94636431They were making badger omnivehicles as early as the thirty teens and never shared the designs. They kept every Marauder II produced in the federated suns until after the 4th succesion war, which is sort of an early sign of how insanely generously they were treated considering how often they were at war with the suns.
>>94636494Airmech mode is still capable of walking around.
>>94636494Airmechs have fully functional arms and legs, I don't see the issue with doing away with the fully humanoid humanoid form when you could adjust the Airmech into a proper chicken walker mode instead.
>>94636494>>94636531>>94636541>ITT: Robotechfags who don't have a game
>Bushwacker>Caesar>Catapult (Missile box one)>Centurion>Chameleon>Charger>Goliath>Helios>Stalker>Starslayer>WolfhoundOk, these are surplus mechs I ended up with after unboxing the Mercs and stuffs. I'm usually an Introtech person but I'm thinking about going to the Invasion era with these. What faction/regiment should I do though?
>>94636578FED COM FED COM FED COM FED COM FED COM
>>94636409Will do. Fair warning it will be imho slop, as I have not written anything in years. What I did after school was imho utter shite. And LAMs are intended to feature only once I am close to 100k. But aside from the slop, with all the usual slop tags(cover, si, op, etc), as i repurposed the rails from something else and now will aim to play utterly straight. the main goal I will try for is to totally not remake some shambling Terran mirror in the Outworlds wastes by being a terran irredentist half a century before it was cool. In that situation I think LAMs could put in the work once it grows from single planetary political concerns, in the specific context of the Outworlds wastes, start of the thirty first century.I claimed a few threads ago I will do this so I started doing it. Unfortunately I have scraped it and rewriten it once already at 8k words. My claim of 10k a Sunday have been excessively optimistic in the face of irl.
Will anyone in-sett8ng ever figure out how to add handholds for BA to non-omnimechs?
>>94636511All true, but I think that the anon I was replying to meant "why didn't the 'Goons have a bunch of Clantech instead of just 2 hand-assembled Dire Wolves, slash why didn't they give Clantech schematics to the NAIS?"
>>94636633I mean, there is the Helios. Clearly that's enough to make this a Capellan list.Also the Goliath, but let's say that was captured in Andurien.
>>94636668Yes. This is an option I think in TechManual....Of course, starting with the Fa Shih and its magnetic clamps, we threw away the original justification for why only Omnis could carry BA (only their gyros had the software to deal with the rapidly changing mass distribution).
>>94636685Can't the mech not run if they're carrying them that way or something
>>94636685Forgot the citations.First
>>94636685>>94636701And second
>>94636494i know this is b8.but i will respond anyway, for it is mine.Airmech mode is the one and only reason LAMs can function in their intended doctrinal capacity as raiders, specops, and QRF.the mech mode is entirely worthless, and imho should the software for transforming to mech mode should be deleted on all LAMs to prevent anyone from making such a foolish thing.Well the original LAM trio have miniscule and only excuse for the mech mode in that they can be confused with bugmechs of phawks, but that requires enemy paint jobs, iff codes and pilots trained in enemy language and protocol to allow for that maneuver to even be a remote possibility, and as such imho an excessive training load for somone who has to be both mech and asf pilot.as such, even for the trio, delete the mech software, ignore its existence and only let it be what it was meant to be a quasi mech durability and functionality(mech hands) vtol raider, QRF and specops fire support vehicle
All this LAM talk, but what about Quadvees? Is there any hope for tracked/wheeled/hover vees that can turn into mechs? Imagine a mech that can hover over water or a mech that can go faster on roads.
>>94636704Put hands on a vtol its called a utility/gunship helicopter like a huey with dual miniguns
>>94636577>Robotech
>>94636717>or a mech that can go faster on roads.This is literally the only advantage, and it doesn't seem worth the conversion mass.I don't think QuadVees can be hovercraft, and even if they could, why bother when you can have an Epona?In-lore QuadVees are just the Horsies flailing around for something fun to try in order to justify their vehicle pilot phenotype, and out-of-lore it's just the devs doing something uncreative to try and use the Horses' affinity for vehicles, somehow forgetting that it's actually an affinity for combined arms.
>>94635644>and "This Japanese guy actually isn't from space Japan!" is too much nuance for most producers to risk.It's possible.
>>94636735What if it was an addon to normal mechs like tracks? Wheels and hoverskirts could be neat to have on mechs. As mentioned before it could be interesting for mechs to get a bonus to movement when on paved roads, but a mech being able to cross open waters without sinking without having to invest into potentially multiple tons of jump jets would be an especially neat bit of tech.
>>94636717To be fair we had a discussion on Quadvees just last thread iirc, or it might have been the one before that. Anyway I don't see why a hover variant QuadVee couldn't exist
>>94636756Quadvee WiGes, that have different exceptions to their movement than lams and regular WiGes. For maximum rules illegibility
>>94636494An Airmech is basically just pic related with wings. If mechs like the Black Python or the Marauder II are seen as mechs with no issue, I don't see why a refined airmech mode replacing the old humanoid mech mode is an issue.
>>94634749I don’t think the drop ships were available through the KSSo far you can only get them from CGL it seems
They should just get over their autism and decide to create a brand new "LAM Pilot" phenotype that is based off the more normal human ASF lineages. Then these new LAMs are designed with bimodal Plane-Airmech only in mind, with the simplification being a justification for unlocking weight saving technologies in construction and allowing heavy and assault LAMs. If a 100 ton ASF can fly then so can a 100 ton LAM. It is possible these could come with brand new rules to help balance them in play. It would probably have to involve rogue scientists again but I mean the ilClan era is long, and if anyone can get those working it'd be Clan mad scientists.
>>94634963damn that is sweet
>>94636772they were added as an add-on at some point, that's where I got one of mine.I discovered I unironically enjoy CBT last night.
If omnimech gyros allow omnimechs to safely ditch a star of BA at a moment's notice, and if it is indeed the case that the loss of weight from armor damage is the source of damage PSRs, that would imply omnimechs should inherently have a bonus to PSRs.
>>94636802Did you play alpha strike before this then? Disgusting
>>94636803You take a PSR when you take 20 points of damage though, which is understandable for missiles and ballistics but less explainable for laser weaponry.>>94636815The other kind of CBT.
>>94636816>The other kind of CBT.It's about fucking time you started up with the cognitive behavioral therapy. You've been in need of therapy for years.
>>94636819... I mean, yes that'd probably help, but also no. Still the wrong kind of CBT.
>>94636802hola chica I did not know they became an add on I made two pledges because they at first it was the only way to get multiples of the core pledge and never saw thembut anyways I now have 2 unions and 1 each of the overlords winging my way along with some of those half priced essentials boxes>>94636815why do posters her rag on AS>>94636819lmao
>>94636766Hover Bipedvee
>>94636831>I mean, yes that'd probably help, but also no. Still the wrong kind of CBT.No worries. I love designing material for computer based testing too.>>94636841>why do posters her rag on ASUnironically and genuinely, there was a period where CGL didn't release anything at all for actual BT, and only released stuff for Alpha Strike. Their statements were things to the effect of "there's no future in a complex tabletop wargame, and everything needs to be fast play; a game that takes over 90 minutes is too long". That was during the rise of fast play skirmish games like Infinity and Xwing, and also about this same time, CGL was getting rid of long time BT writers like Ben Rome and Herb. So the clear plan was to straight up replace BT with Alpha Strike. A *WHOLE LOT* of BT players aren't going to forget that, and they're going to hate Alpha Strike forever, because Alpha Strike represented an attempt to kill actual BT because of limited CGL resources. It wasn't until the first BT kickstarter's wild success that CGL dropped the idea of phasing out BT with Alpha Strike.It is fair? No, not really. But we haven't forgiven or forgotten the Clan Invasion, and that was 35 years ago. Forgetting a genuine attempt to kill Battletech for greater corporate profit a mere decade ago is not going to happen anytime soon.
>>94636841>why do posters her rag on ASBecause grogs can't min-max in a real wargame with their cheese, so they hide in their simulator and pretend to still matter.
>>94636802You like computer based training? I guess that makes sense if you're a programmer
>>94636868>>94636871but isn’t AS just Battleforce with a few tweaks?or are these supposed grogs actually just too new to realize it?
>>94636892No one ever actually played Battleforce so
>>94636892From what I understand the smallest unit in battleforce is a lance of mechs. So that leaves AS at some sort of halfway step between CBT and BF in scale.
>>94636831>Still the wrong kind of CBT.We don't need to know about your weirdo kinks.
But wait, if damage PSRs are due to the loss of weight of armor, the PSR breakpoint being exactly 20, that would mean armor and structure would have different breakpoints to trigger PSRs, as would different armor types and different structure types.I have heard it asserted by many that is the cause of damage PSRs, but is that even really the case? Is it explicitly stated anywhere in writing?Lasers in the HBS BT game, a game that was overseen by official devs and intended to be a product faithful to the setting, cause less stability damage than most other weapons, providing a soft implication that it is the kinetic or explosive force of the damage that is the cause of damage PSRs.
>>94636892First, no it's fucking not. The ACTUAL Battleforce rules is an operational/strategic game which uses the lance as the primary unit of maneuver instead of the Mech, and doesn't use individualized units except as they grant firepower/abilities to the lance unit.Second, it IS a revised version of the Battleforce 2 ruleset, that was later republished as "Battleforce" in the original printing of Strategic Operations. Third, and most important, nobody fucking minds the simple existence of the Alpha Strike rules. The rules are boring and uninspired, but perfectly functional. What they MIND is the attempt by CGL to kill off the ACTUAL BT game in favor of Alpha Strike. That's not the game's fault, but as long as Alpha Strike is published and supported, CGL can go back and resume their plan to kill BT any time they want, and that is unacceptable.
imo CBT is a simulationist rpg played via hex and counter where minis are just optionalwhereas AS is an actual miniatures wargameand selling plastic is where the money is
>>94636905AS is definitely NOT boring in terms of gameplay
>>94636905>Third, and most important, nobody fucking minds the simple existence of the Alpha Strike rules. The rules are boring and uninspired, but perfectly functional. What they MIND is the attempt by CGL to kill off the ACTUAL BT game in favor of Alpha Strike. That's not the game's fault, but as long as Alpha Strike is published and supported, CGL can go back and resume their plan to kill BT any time they want, and that is unacceptable.Oh, and also they mind the fact that smoothbrained 40K refugees latch on to Alpha Strike and seem hellbent on creating the same miserable broken tournament focused gameplay environment that they fled from. And the more of them there are, the more likely it is that CGL listens to their money and decides to shift to supporting only tournament whales, instead of the actual fucking players who kept the game alive through historical and scenario play for the last 40 fucking years. Because you KNOW that all Loren Coleman cares about is chasing the money, not making a good game.
>>94636911ironically you are posting exactly like a smoothbrained GW hater (so 40k refugee)
>>94636901Probably because of not having to grab a calculator every time I do structure damage in addition to armour damage. It's a game. There are going to be abstractions from how things go "in universe"
>>94636911If Battletech can't sell enough to justify its own existence, then it deserves to die. If Alpha strike is what makes money, then it's only correct that CGL drop it and go with the game that sells. That's business. Sounds like your time is over, and Alpha strike is the future, grog.
Hating CGL because they hypothetically almost made a giant mistake (supposedly axing CBT) but then didn’t actually do so because they made some extremely good choices (AGoAC, starter box, Clan Invasion KS) is really bizarre and smells a lot like being influenced by yOuTuBe CoNtEnt CrEaToRs
>>94636920I don't find that a convincing explanation.You would not need to pull out a calculator for the same reason you don't need to pull out a calculator to figure out the damage you do with every weapon you fire: the breakpoints per armor/structure type would be listed and you would memorize them, it would be a very simple math problem not requiring a calculator.
SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON
>>94636911>the same miserable broken tournament focused gameplay environment that they fledLies. GW cut the nuts off tournaments by refusing to support them any longer, then filled the game with broken, obnoxious units to make tournaments impossible to run without a 10-page list of banned units. GW betrayed tournament players to sell plastic flyers and Titans and formation-centric unit play that previously only existed in Apocalypse, which wasn't tournament driven at all. CGL's push for AS was immediately attractive to 40K tournament players, because it was giving them exactly what GW wasn't: balanced gameplay suitable for tournaments with minimal fussing to make it work, that didn't require you to spend $1000 in the Next Big Thing just to field a viable army.
>>94636951>balanced gameplay suitable for tournaments...in Battletech.Nigga, u serious?
>>94636951good post also at the same time GW has been pushing “narrative play” to the absolute chagrin of tournament players
>>94636954In AS, yes. In CBT, no way. That anyone used to run tournaments using CBT at all was, frankly, impressively ballsy given how complex the system was.
>>94636960>>94636951Given that competitive tournaments, and the people whom they attract, are a cancer to the entire gaming industry, this is not the point in favor of Alpha Strike that you think it is.
>>94636964I wonder what NEA would say about this post
>>94636964You sound like a battered wife. Show me on this Archer where a tournament touched you inappropriately.
>>94636967Why?
>>94636981Purely competitive play is generally pretty shit in most games, full of sweaty tryhards that derive all fun from winning at all costs, not playing the game itself. TT games are no exception.
>>94636954>>94636960Why would we want balanced gameplay suitable for tournaments.
N E W>>94637004>>94637004>>94637004>>94637004>>94637004N E W
>>94636442Fuck me then i guess, can't say im not surprised at being wrong for getting lore from vidya
>>94632227a SOLUTION?! no we only want to complain around there parts boy.....you git yourself a purdy mouf
>>94636998>go to tournament.>complain about tryhards.i think i see the problem and it's you.
>>94636816>"the other kind of CBT"
>>94636981NTA but he wouldn't stop leaning against me to show me things I didn't care about on his phone, he smelled like complete shit and I had to force myself not to gag, and he couldn't get the hint that I wasn't interested. . No I'm not joking or baiting either, the whole experience was very unpleasant.
>>94634963your game room got anything else? you've literally been posting ghe same thing for a year
>>94632196shocker you're thinking of me sexually, go get some $20 secks nerd.
>>94637188There's the incoherent shrieking
>>94637488only incoherent if you're incapable of reading, which doesn't surprise me
