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I don't like Warhammer forty-thousand
>tqgod no
Asking once more.How does this list look? Will it be fun for me and my opponent?I really don't like relying too much on large vehicles
Dashing through the ashIn a one juggernaut open sleigh O'er the battlefields we goChanting all the way Bells on Nurglites ringMaking spirits blightWhat fun it is to ride and screamA slaying song tonight, Oh! Jingle skulls, jingle skullsBlood spills all the wayOh what fun it is to ride in a one juggernaut open sleighMAIM!Jingle skulls, jingle skullsBlood spills all the wayOh what fun it is to ride in a one juggernaut open sleighNow the ground is redGo it while their freshKill the girls tonight Sing this slaying songGet a bombing at the bayEight eighty for his speedAnd hitch him to an open sleighAnd ill take the lead chargeJingle skulls, jingle skullsBlood spills all the wayOh what fun it is to ride in a one juggernaut open sleighMAIM!Jingle skulls, jingle skullsBlood spills all the wayOh what fun it is to ride in a one juggernaut open sleigh
>>94649715Why don't you run that through the Suno AI?Maybe it comes up with a funny song
>>94649670first ever warhammer game against a frenOrks vs Tyranids (both painted by me)we used a trivet for the center objective loli won against her with my orks but we feel like 500pts orks vs 500 pts tyranids is a bit one sided so we're still making adjustmentswas rly fun though, she had me in the first half
>>94649670>TQGave my friend a carnivore as a gift and got a chaos lord with jump pack. I really like the model and now I just need raptors to support him.
>>94649679This, but unironically
Bros, how do you teach yourself and your brother to play 10th edition? I managed Kill team as it has a smaller amount of rules but 40k seems daunting with all the different types of rules to remember.I haven't played 40k since 5th ed as well>2008 was 16 years ago
>>94649670>tqfuckin’ no. the people I care about who’re even aware of it think it’s gateway nazi shit, which is fair enough, given the behavior of gateway nazis. i only got into it through fantasy because the mmo in 2007 had all this hype around it, and then I heard about everything else
>>94649754If it's just you and your brother, literally just play.The only daunting thing this edition is the rules commentary for all those specific interactions or fuck ups by the writers being too vague.Most of the time rules are very straightforward and learning the game is a matter of familiarizing yourself with them.I've got like 8 dudes that just started this edition playing at the club and they are getting the hang of it after a couple of games, now they need to get good.Make your list with newrecuit or something like that so you have your unit rules near you, get your stratagems and the generic ones printed out and keep the commentary and core book pdf open to do word search if you need it.
>>94649670Post models and wips.
>>94649670>TQActual models no, but I've gotten friends hobbying supplies pretty often. More minis just adds to their piles of shame, and I prefer giving people more practical gifts.
>>94649754Play a very tiny game
>watched latest Cr1tikal video>noticed he has a fucking warlord titan on his bottom shelfCan anyone ID the models on the other shelves?
>>94649777Can easily make out a monolith on the middle shelf
>>94649771>>94649775My main complaint is the constant changing of rules>Buy core rule book>Now out of date>Have to rely on a 3rd part website, probably having to rely on checking the rules on 5 different tabs on two monitorsIf only Gee dubya could into digital rules
>TQyeah I got my bud a Chaos Lord so I’m hoping he doesn’t buy one himself before our Christmas party lmao
>>94649786they can, they don't want to
>>94649670>TQI have slowly corrupted most of my friend group by giving a kill team and some painting supplies as gifts to several of them. A couple didn't take to it but several of them did and have 1k+ armies now
>>94649786It's funny how many people I hear complaining about the constant rules updates these days when for decades the main complaint was how slow rules were to update.It's also amusing to me to realize that for some it's not the data slates and point adjustments they're talking about but that three-year-long-editions are too quick of a turn around time for them to get an army painted up and on the table
>>94649777Top one is the WETA Titus statue and the collectors edition one
>>94649801Back then there were armies than didnt even have a codex for a full edition...If they are still printing rules, they must be done correctly in the first try, needing only very minor tweaks. It is not like they are a small business than cant hire good designers.
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>>94649801NTA but my complaint is them releasing physical rules in books and cards that are obsolete on release.And them having the core rules and the commentary split.All because they won't concede that online free rules is the best for the game.
>>94649801Gee dubya cant into balance, look at all their other games. They deliberately don't balance their shit
>>94649812If anything, codecies at this point should be all of the fluffy shit, like ideas for terrain suited for each army, lore blurbs and paint schemes while the crunch is free online rules that are visibly and easily updated.
>>94649815The point of them balancing the game is to build hype and generate discussion to boost sales.It's the same reason they still have codex releases. It's purely a marketing strategy.
>>94649777>watching that faggotkill yourself, unironically
>>94649819The issue is most people wouldn't buy them if that were the case, GW knows that 90% of the people that buy codexes are buying them purely for the rules, it's why they started packaging matched play rules into crusade books in 9th, they knew that far less people buy narrative books than matched play rulebooks and did it to boost sales, and it worked. GW are never going to willingly give up a massive income stream just to make things better for players.
I was recently given a broken FDM printer that I have managed to fix. Could one of you kind gentleman tell me where I can get STLs for ruin similar to pic related?
>>94649819I've been saying that for a while.A codex should be a fancy reference and background book, with fancy art and hobby stuff like heraldry, markings, colour combinations, ideas whatever.
>>94649832But how long can they keep pushing with the day 0 invalidated rules before people who buy codecies for rules clue in and get sick of it?
>>94649821>It's the same reason they still have codex releases. It's purely a marketing strategy.
>>94649801lets be more precise:for decades the main complaint was how slowly issues with the rules get addressed while now on top of that people whine about how fast rules that didn't need to change end up changing nonetheless.the 3-years-edition system makes codexes an all around terrible purchase, so much so that even limited edition versions have abysmal resale value and GW shoves the codexes in the army boxsets merely to bump the price further.at this point they should be more honest with what they're selling and sell the codex in 3 packets: one booklet which is just packed with background and artwork, one booklet which is a collector's guide for the kits of the army, including designer comments on the newer models and a section for the older (perhaps soon mto) models, and one booklet which is just rules, cheap enough to not make it an atonal waste to print the errata and faq and glue them onto the page or for gw to have a program where it can receive outdated rules booklets as returned products and hand out a couponat least the art booklet and products guide would have collectable value
>>94649777Well at least he's funding poor, little GW
>>94649840Forever, the people who cry "oh no my entire codex is now invalid because one sentence changed" have always been turbofaggots never taken seriously by the majority. You also have a lot of the old school wargamers who like the feel of a book in your hands whilst you play and for whom the cost of a codex is negligible. For a lot of long time players a codex may even be their yearly purchase from GW which actually does more to keep them engaged with the hobby than if the rules were free online, since there'd be no feeling of needing to get them, so gradually they'd just lose interest in the hobby. The reason why most put up with it is because they'd rather have a balanced game so they'll put up with codex adjustments. The app is probably the best compromise GW are able to make.
>>94649811Would the Tau potentially become Necron level in tech if they were left for their own devices? Am I looking too deep into this?
>>94649900There's no way he painted it himself, he either bought it already finished off of ebay or paid a commission studio to do it for him. I imagine everything he buys is likely from a commission painter or studio so he's paying them way more than GW.
>>94649914can't even see them getting to dark age tech level
>>94649919even with their ingenuity? Fucking hell they are fucked in that case if they can't improve
>>94649670>TQNot 40k, but I got my sisters one of the Underworld games (Gnarlwood), because they both like board games and DnD. They loved it, younger sis enjoys painting ceramics and quickly embraced the model painting too, and both expressed interest in further bands, so they got a few, and this year they will receive Warcry - Crypt of Blood. And maybe next year, one of the fomo boxes in AoS. And then probably starter for 11th. Generally, Age of Sigmar has bigger appeal with them, but slowly trying to convert them to 40k too, both seem to like Tyranids, Orks, Sisters and Death Guard, so I am considering letting them paint something from my pile of shame.
>>94649905the long time wargamers are not buying the codexes anymorethe yearly negligible purchase is better done on a plastic kit that will be inevitably released alongside the codexand if you need an overpriced piece of paper that stops being enough on day one in order to remain invested then the game doesn't deserve people to be invested in it and gw should fix its core issues to begin with
>>94649914>Am I looking too deep into this?yes
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>94648483 #Harlequins? In a discount box? I don't believe it
>>94649773Working on chosen, trying to figure out the color for the scabbard. Any thoughts?
>>94649773Those aren't your models, you just grabbed them from the previous thread.
GW could easily do rules via a subscription to an app and make more than one codex purchase per edition
>>94649949Tan to help it pop.
>>94649773Can't wait to see how they turn out, man.
>>94649959The funniest part is how much you think about me and spend your time making tributes to me.
>>94649953I'm not paying for digital rules.
>>94649964>says the terminally online throoder to a 3 minutes shop
>>94649938Why do you hurt me like this.This is all I have left.
>>94649938I wouldn't call 3 kits and a hero going from resin to plastic a range refresh.I don't even think you're getting all 3 in this edition.Any luck in finding the dark eldar sketchbook yet?
>>94649977DE need those resin models in plastic but I reckon hellions are due an update too.Or maybe we'll get a new unit alongside the refresh
>>94649981What's the problem with hellions now?
>WHFB Dark Elves; gay & lame>40k Dark elves; cool & edgyI think it might be the lizards famtbhq
>>94649933my bad, I just find it interesting you know?
>>94649999>faggot conclusions >faggot image>faggot posteryep, it's the guy
>>94649999fuck wrong image and i got quads >>94650004Sucked in cunt you're 4 digits off
>>94649941Please God, I want clowns to be relevant again
>>94650001Well, if you want more food for thought, the necrontyr had quite a different context compared to the tau which led to a different developmenttheir cancerous physiology pushed them to obsessively research a solution, while for tau development isn't a necessity the necrontyr lived at the outskirt of the galaxy with little to no contact or understanding with the metaphysical, or with many other races either, since the galaxy was young and so calm they could traverse it in sublight generational ships, while tau see coexistence as a necessity to survive abd thrive and are starting to witness the metaphysical the necrontyr existed for a long time and from what we got to see their main issue was intercine wars, these created a level of competition within their technological arts, the tau are young, they barely got a chance to look inward in perfection of their craft to even a remotely similar degreethe necrontyr received a considerable technological boost from contact with the c'tan, from liberating themselves from the limits of fleshy bodies, and from scavenging the spoils in the war against the old ones, the best the tau can reliably access to retroengineer is the imperium's technologyIF there is a path for the tau to grow like the necrontyr it is very far in the future and in a very different galaxy
>>94649999Those aren’t elves though, those are space marines and sisters of battle.
>>94649977this art is beautiful>>94650038yeah makes sense, still the Necrontyr were pretty advanced even before the ctan but yeah they definitely got a major boost and a curse from them
>>94649977“Gee, how come your mom lets your helmet have five faces?”
>>94649914How long would they need?
>>94649777>>94649778It looks like he has a bunch necron models including the doomstalker, nightbringer and void dragon c'tan
>>94650054probably eons, wouldn't be surprised if it takes them less than the time humanity took to get to the peak of their tech level before falling from grace
World Eater detachment is out.3 blessings of Khorne to 2/3/4 champions/characters and their units (Depending on army size) every battle round seems neat.
>>94650063>>94649778>penguin0 is a necronfagAt least it ain't votann or eldar
>>94650073Link it, WarCom is currently broken for me
>>94650077https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_grotmas_detachment_world_eaters_vessels_of_wrath_dec2024-id2xjrtkac-mhbxx3xegb.pdf
>>94650073Then link ithttps://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_grotmas_detachment_world_eaters_vessels_of_wrath_dec2024-id2xjrtkac-mhbxx3xegb.pdf
>>94650076nta what's wrong in the Necrons?
>>94650078>>94650079>This stratagemNEAT
>everyone else gets some cool detachments>SoB gets a shitty one that is made even worse by the recent nerfsFUCK GWFUCK GWFUCK GW
>Join us in a few months for World Easter, our next seasonal Warhammer crossover… In the meantime, we’ve saved the goodest boys for last: the Space Wolves arrive tomorrow.What's for spehss woolvs?
>>94650054Well they went to cavemen to sci-fi level tech in 6k years, so they're faster than us. Another 10k years of peace and prosperity probably.
>>94650094Leman Russ returns with a 40k model alongside the SW refresh
>>94649993The models look dated
>>94650031I will buy it if they do it, I want to add some clowns to my eldar
Rolled 5, 1, 2, 5, 1, 5, 1, 6 = 26 (8d6)>Good detachment ability>Pretty meh enhancements>Good stratagemsKHORNE HEAR MY PRAISESALSO FUCK ANGRON
>>94650101They’re based off of Highlander 2 villains.
>>94650099>the SW refreshIn your dreams. They have finally surrendered to the Codex. Blood Claws and Grey Hunters are on the way out, Reivers and Intercessors are here to stay.
>>94650094>Join us in a few months for World Easter, our next seasonal Warhammer crossoverGW is celebrating the bloodshed of god (who isn't god but his son, no you cannot question this paradox) with the 2nd wave for WE army confirmed! Even gods may die!
>>94650089Miracle dice fucking blow anyways. Remove chance in a game of chance? Suck my dirty, peolapsed asshole
>>94650089Was the Exorcist ever good? I thought it was always mediocre even before the actually meta Castigator got released
>>94650123It has one of the coolest heads GW has ever released.
>GW will make Artillery and Flyers great again!
>>94650132which one? Sister Daft Punk?
>>94650132while church head is cool my fav is the one just vibing with the organ music
>>94649999>I think it might be the lizardscounterpoint: what if they had monstrous lizards of their own?
>>94650140>>94650141Yes.
>>94650138>GW will make the game shit again. So, I can act like a faggot and faceroll tournaments. I wouldn't count on that. You're probably better off learning to play and not being a raging homo.
Thundercav detachement tomorrow please
>>94649972Because your suffering sustains me.......Hahahaha, sorry, sorry, I had to, I wish ya the best dude and may you get many snazzy models and cool themantic rules in the future, cheers.
>>94650142This art piece is like studying ancient art where you have to learn different cultures had different understadnings of perspective. The img name allowed me to understand it but its messy as. cool but messy
>>94650157>Non-primaris unitNo
Less than 48 hours before HE arrives!!
Based on my lunch, what armies do I play?
I have spent almost $8k on clothes since the femstodes drop. That is all
>>94650157>Goodest Boys>Space WolvesLolLmao even
>>94650180>The femostodes drop made him crossdressYou gonna post your boi-pussy in a thong or are you gonna be a tease ?
We should get female daemon princess models, especially for Slaanesh. Not all daemon princes are former marines
>>94650192What kind of psychopath is that?
>>94650076NecronCHAD you mean
>>94650177Primarian Marines of Space (Ultra Marines)
>>94650097nta I feel like they have crazy potential but just can't improve due to the state of the galaxy and their size and limited experience compared to the others
>>94650192you don't give a damn about female daemon anything and just wanted an excuse to post that retched video
>>94650203necrons are so cool man
>>94650219I was gonna post a pepefrog with a fact sign but can't find it in my gallery so I just posted that
>>94650203>>94650224Than anon is an eldar fag
Another big W for Kinomundahttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/l9z3jr70/add-a-touch-of-the-divine-to-your-gang-with-the-koiron-ministorum-delegation/
>>94650242>necromunda gets kino models including actual squats>40k gets crapIT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
Whatever happened to that gene stealer cult on Terra
>>94650250I personally like the cowboy robot because it’s goofy and funny what’s wrong with that imperial tank
>>94650256Lack of a bottom plate for the hull is what the image is implying is wrong with it.
>>94650250Paragon Warsuit should've been so easy. GW just needed to make them the SoB's version of Terminators (and similar proportions). Yet they managed to fucked it up
I wish the 9th faction was something original like the Tau or Tyranids and not just another fantasy species but in space
>>94650256Not a guard player, but it's too round, redundant because the Russ exists and they conjured it out of their anus with no prior reference to it An no bottom panel.
>>94650252>genestealer cult on Holy Terra>should be disguised as some pilgrim cult or bureaucrats of the administratum>no they're miners, because the models we sell are miners so every time a GSC shows up we have to depict them as the models we sell
if gw cared about getting new players they would make some set called "my first space marine" box that has a few easy to paint models, paint, brushes, and instructions for cheap
>>94650279Nigga, half of us managed just fine as 12 yos. It's not a hard hobby to get into
>>94650165It's because I can't make it any better, so I make it worse and let the brain fills the gap.
>>94650279Anon they have those...Do you know how to use fucking google?
>>94650250I hate marines in general, and more the new ones, but the cart and the nerf guns guys are just the worst garbage i've ever seen from GW.
>>94650262I fully believe that the paragon warsuits (unit) don't work because they were designed after the paragon warsuit (character), because the latter works while the former don't work because they're missing the flourish that on the character complete the silhouette
>>94650303Nope, I still can't take it seriously unless I imagine the pilot's got no legs.
>>94650262I honestly think nundams are pretty cool, dunno why those get so much shit here
>Shoot melta>Blow head offyour move
>>94650307Cool concept, bad executionToo lanky and flat for how ornate sisters arePeople are mad because these could have been a million times better looking.
>>94650307>I honestly think nundams are pretty coolHow is the weather on Planet Retard?
>>94650306Feet control the legs just as hands control the arms. It’s not even unrealistic.
>>94650310>primaris on a proteuswhoever made that should be shot
>>94650307Sanitized boring tastes mostly
>>94650262It's completely redundant. They already have the coolest walker in game.
>>94650265>but it's too roundIt looks like a box on top of a box
>>9465029020 dollars for 2 models with zero paint lol
>>94650324You’re using redundant wrong
>>94650306but the legs sit fine within the paragon's thighs
>>94650252They've become Imperialized.
>>94650318>t. Boomer Marine mad that others have good relations with their younger battle brothers
>>94650262>>94650303>>94650333Nundams are dogshit from a conceptual point as well.It's same old retarded babycarrier garbage as the dreadknight and centurions. None of it belongs in 40k and the faggot whoever came up with the original dreadknight babycarrier design deserves to get flogged.
>>94650252They died, of course, nothing to see here now, ignore the tyranids pushing towards segmentum solar.
I'm still not over Primaris. I avoid playing against primaris armies and I have never bought one. Just don't like em
>>94650392Remember Primaris don't exist, Cawl just made some new power armour and wacky new vehicles by copying eldar, anyone claiming there are "newer" stronger space marines is clearly insane and/or a hereticWhat is my source ? I made it the fuck up
>>94650392You are autistic
>>94650392>I avoid playing against primaris armiesyou would need to actually own models to do that, which you don't
>>94649801Most people only play once every month- 2 months. For them the changes are a bit quick. Only lifeless turbo faggot alike sallyman and steel leagionanon play weekly.
>>94650411here's your free (You), it's on the house
>>94650411I don't know. I only play once a month and the changes to AdMech still feel like they come too slowly to me.
Do you play your games with those shitty tournament terrain layouts?Everyone in my club plays with them, even the casuals and the boards look and play like shit.
>>94650406I have around 9000 pts of painted models across 4 armies. I probably play more games more often than you as well. In short: I mog you.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qhwxnsbr/warhammer-40000-battlefield-trophies-festoon-your-bases-with-your-vanquished-foes/bits
>>94650416Yes. Otherwise you get the guard and tau players who want to replicate the open plains of Ukraine.
>>94650418>Space Marine>Bones
>>94650417>no timestamped picture of a single modelI accept your concession, tourist
>>94650416Yes because ranges are too long and shooting too easy so we need these clusterfuck tables to make this garbage game remotely tactical
>>94650417
>>94650416Yes, I love super dense terrain, planet bowling ball can get fucked.
Me>Alpha Legion, Death Guard, Death Corps, Tau (Kroot and Vespids)Older tranny sister>Night Lords, Eldar, Grey Knights Younger brother >Tau, Deathwatch, Space WolvesDad>World Eaters, Orks, Ultramarines Mom>Word Bearers, Blood AngelsIs it zased and favored by the Emperor?
>>94650418sad there's no noise marine helmet to complete the cult heads
>>94650413I’m right, don’t act like a child just Ravager I impugned the character of your parasocial relationship targets.
Is there a mega anymore for recent Black Library releases?
>>94650440No spoilers until after Christmas Eve.
After all the noise I went and read the 3rd edition rules and I can see why people would like it so much. It looks much simpler and more straight forward than the current game while somehow also allowing a lot more customization and granularity everywhere. Looks a lot better paced too with how less lethal everything is between the rarity of big weapons and the restrictions to weapon range and movement to shooting. Why exactly is GW and people in general so against going that to that base instead of... whatever 10th is doing?
>>94650467That’s because you’ve never played a game of 40K in your life. Old rules fucking sucked.
>>94650418>Box of skulls 2: Marine corpse boogaloo
>>94650448>doubling down>projectingReally desperate, aren't we? Here, have one more pity (You)
>>94650418Oooooh, I like these. Shame about the lack of an EC head, but that’s a lot of cool skulls.
>>94650474Care to explain why?
>>94650476>half a spess muhreen instead of a decapitated knight headThey had one job and they still cocked it up
>>94650418I think they photoshopped the heads onto the bases in the demo pictures instead of actually building some models with these extras added to the bases.
>>94649954I mean the from the color tests I painted on the sprue.
>>94650498Their old scheme looks so good on modern models.
>>94650502In that case, go with the light grey. You need something to help it stand out.
>>94649777I can't stand this guy>clickbaity title like "worst thing ever happened" but video is about random neighbour drama nr 9000 caught on camera>video is one minute long but he streaches is to 8-10 minutes with pointless talk, to get ad revenueHe is possibly worst clickbait non content stretched to it's limits so he get ads money.
>>94650418>custodian helmet lying on the groundI bet there'll be upsetting just at this
>>94650519Perfect for basing your Harlequins with
>>94650498Looks shooped to me
>>94650490He has none because he hasn't played an edition that didn't feature a Primaris.
Who's the bitch between the chaos sister and the brown rogye trader supposed to be? Necrontyr?
>>94650498It's quite common for GW to photoshop stuff instead of building models. IIRC Abaddon model wasn't magnetised or build 3 times, but instead they photoshopped extra head options.
>>94650543>IIRC Abaddon model wasn't magnetised or build 3 times, but instead they photoshopped extra head options.Where is your documentation?
>>94650535Tau water caste.
>>94650535Dunno ask artist or commissioner. I can only tell you there is no Black Lion on pic.
>>94650535Tau water caste. Also what the fuck is this art? You need to look hard to even notice it's 40k instead of some generic forgotten realms slop with a total of 0 helmets (except the based techpriest). It's like if you did a collage of 10 mediocre YA book covers.
>>94650418>no necrons>no votanns>no slaaneshi>no demons>no tzaangors>no skitarii>no knights>no drukhari
>>94649739Even with restrictions on monsters and vehicles, (Like nothing over T12 or 12 wounds) 500 points is really hard to make fair.
>>94650543To this day every pic of the sword praetor for HH still has the helmet version looking like a giraffe because they put way too much bluetack during the pics.
>>94650552>a total of 0 helmets (except the based techpriest).It isn't helmet, it's his bare(metal) head.
>>94650549>>94650552This is not a tau.
>>94650558Properly built the model looks like this.
>>94650418still inferior to the existing skulls box
>>94649915He said on a podcast that he bought a whole lot of Necrons and Grey Knights off Ebay. I imagine the titan is among all those models, too.
>>94650418>>94650553>skulls instead of cut off heads>no knight headgay
>>94650552look at the watermark in the top right corner
>>94650564It's not a replacement though?
>>94650535Most likely a female Navigator.
>>94650570This also comes from deviantart that's no excuse.
>>94650310So are there backpacks stored somewhere or do they take the whole chair when they need to get off? or are they just shackled into the speeder?
>>94650535Extremely gay fanart.
>>94650579There’s a socket in the seat that connects to the armour, presumably they leave their power pack at base.
>>94650549>>94650552Don't look like Tau cuz no Y vagina on forehead.>>94650574Don't look like navigator because no 3rd eye and no nobilite symbols.It's bad art overall
>>94650490Vehicle rules generally being kind of wank, being outclassed by monsters until the two more or less mergedA lot less strategic and tactical depth with no stratagem systemEndless tables for random effectsTemplates making movement slow to a crawl since everyone had to be in perfect coherency while not dying to 1 blast weaponEldar were super OP
>>94650589The eye is under the chinese hat.
>>94650498GW didn't want people to think they didn't have minis
>>94650552>>94650583>>94650589It's a fantastic art. Seethe
>>94650592>Vehicle rules generally being kind of wank, being outclassed by monsters until the two more or less mergedKinda true but wasn't really a problem since both monsters and vehicles were mostly limited in number 3rd edition>A lot less strategic and tactical depth with no stratagem systemAh yes so much depth from +1 to hit rolls.>Endless tables for random effectsSo you have to think around what is happening on table instead of just going +1 to hit rolls stratagem>Templates making movement slow to a crawl since everyone had to be in perfect coherency while not dying to 1 blast weaponOk I give you that, spacing out to optimise against templates was a thing, still blast template is only "3>Eldar were super OPThat's 7th ed.
>>94650418Meh. I'm skeptical until we get to see the whole sprue. Fucked-up helmets aren't that great when you can just cut up the actual original bits. It's really going to depend on how many things missed by the Citadel Skulls kit are caught here.
>>94650519Literally the first thing I saw after seeing it was a custardfag whining about there being a custodes helmet.
>>94650610It's generic slop, just like the one you posted now.
>>94650610>Ab plateThat's a male Eldar.
bored today, so i'm going to go to GWs flagship store in london to troll them a bitI said I was going to do this the other day but im lazy+it was too late to go out by thenwhat should I do to troll them? I was thinking of expressing interest in OOP models and older games than thr new shit, yet act like a new player
>>94650573thank god
>>94650625>what should I do to troll them?False bomb/fire alarm.
>>94650632its london, thats already scheduled
>>94650639Then real bomb/fire alarm.
>>94650625Ask if they sell battletoads.
>>94650418neat
>>94650618Post it. I desure to see the seethe.
>>94650592I feel like most of these don't really apply to 3rd.>Vehicle rules generally being kind of wank, being outclassed by monsters until the two more or less mergedThe range, scarcity and movement penalty of heavier weapons made vehicles very resilient if used properly. Some parts of the rules for vehicles could be streamlined, though, like movment, but that's more QoL than strength in-game.>A lot less strategic and tactical depth with no stratagem systemStratagems don't add any depth. Just a lot of rulestracking and mental load.>Endless tables for random effectsNot really? 3rd is very simple. Most tables, if you look at stuff like the late 3rd edition codexes (that already step into the codex design of 4th) it's only used during list building so it has no impact during actual play.>Templates making movement slow to a crawl since everyone had to be in perfect coherency while not dying to 1 blast weaponThere was no need to be that careful. Blast weapons weren't everywhere and it doesn't really take any more time to spread your models than moving them closer. This is only ever a problem if you play with idiots and they'll find something else to fuck you with.>Eldar were super OPThe more things change, the more they stay the same.
>>94650620>buzzwordbuzzwordbuzzword>>94650623Its says "lady". Farseer armour does not have boobplate at all, even though the generic miniature is implied to be female.
>>94650552>It's like if you did a collage of 10 mediocre YA book covers.lol I thought the same, reminded me very much fo YA style book art. I like the cute captured at the bottom left though
>>94650519what am i missing?
>>94650610no, it objectively isn't.
>>94650657The breastplate isn't the signifier, the stomach plate is.Men have ab plate, women have tummy plate.
>>94650657>he used a descriptive word that triggers my autism help me nigger man AAIIIEEEThe art is generic slop and will remain as such.It's nothing but a collage panorama shit of bunch of 40k OCs put into an image, it's not interesting or good image just because it's well done on a technical level.Retard.
>>94650625You should lie less and not use the same lie as often.
>>94650386Based
>>94650625Put German military terminology in your speech and start conversations and WWII and how the Nazis actually did a lot of things right.
>>94649833Cults3d, Myminifactory, Telegram
>>94650673Women have ab's just the same as men.>>94650674>pls don't attack my brainrot :*(>>94650669It objectively is
>>94650686>ab's
>>94650678>how the Nazis actually did a lot of things right.except winning the war lmao
>>94650553Does demons and necrons leaves remains?
Don't reply to bad art anon's baits. He will use it as excuse to post more of his commissioned sloppa art.
>>94650696No, that's Tyranids
>>94650697sometimes
>>94650697Yes. Bits of chaos get left behind if they die in spectacular fashion.
>>94650697>Does demons and necrons leaves remains?Daemons it's tricky and depends on writter, they shouldn't but sometimes they do for plot convinence.Necrons sometimes, depends if they are in range of device that will phase them out like tomb or tomb ship, if they are out of range then no phasing out and they just are left there. You can also destroy tomb world to take some necron heads as trophies.
>>94650716Wasn't there some novel lore saying you could prevent necrons from reassembling or phasing out if you cut a specific tube in their neck or something gay like that?
>-4 °CFuck it im going to prime these models and leave them outside.
>>94650686Both of those are dudes.Only male eldar have ab armor, females have tummy armor.Sorry, but you're a fag.
>>94650702the way they are reacting he's either a false flagger or yeah its some of their art or just a big fan of it
>>94650535
I just don’t get it how does one women have so many connections with GW and the TC people. People spend their whole painting careers trying to get into White Dwarf. But apparently having cat pictures with minis does the job. Fuck being a talented painter.
>>94650744nice cat
>>94650173It’s gonna be nice.
>>94650722man the more you get into Necron tech the less almighty they feel, not enough to completely be disregarded of course they will always be a menace to all factions with their broken tech but it definitely feels less like if they a push button the planet is gone or reality being their toy
>>94650722Didn't hear of it but anything is possible with BL books. There is a lot of stupid shit in BL novels, that is straight up ignored by everything else including other BL novels.Tho Deathwatch had special bolts that prevented phasing out and repairs.
>>94650734One of them is a woman.>Only male eldar have ab armor, females have tummy armor.Lorelets have no shame. Have an official illustration from Alex Boyd.
>>94650744You’re not a talented painter though.
>>94650564do they even still sell that?
>>94650173I want to see the head options. I hope he has handsome and monstrous.
>>94650744Anon WD painting section was always full of shit. Couple years ago they showcased Horus Heresy Sons of Horus army, that included primaris... Why? Because painter was friend with one of WD editors. He also was using "Alan Bligh(main HH guy) told me it's good idea to use primaris in 30k army" despite Alan dying of cancer month before primaris announcment.
>>94650744It goes to show how thirsty 40k nerds are, she's a mid hoe and soaks up attention in every comment section for anything related to 40k. It's kinda funny her confirming she's married given the amount of simps she has online who defend her vapid e-whoring. She's one of those women who pretends that people actually give a shit about her because of her "talent" or because they share a hobby, when actually everyone only gives her the time of day because they think if they do there's a chance she'll let them fuck her.
>>94650755>Lorelets have no shame. Have an official illustration from Alex Boyd.That's a male banshee. Only males have ab armor, check any box like guardians or fire dragons or dark reapers.
>>94650756I am not, I never said I am trying for WD, I just find it frustrating how this women has her hands in everything 40K.
Has hype ever died faster than it did for plastic Krieg?
>>94650697If the person killing the Daemon believes they should leave a trophy, they do.Most are too overwhelmed by the innate fear of Daemons to do so though.The remains themselves have no bearing on the Daemon itself after 'death'.
>>94650744That would be cool. A friend of mine had a unit of ogres in an article for a painting contest here.
>>94650773>Alan dying of cancer month before primaris announcment.He knew what was about to happen and decided to go early.
>>94650675>waa waa liar!yeah shut the fuck up, im there right now
>>94650781New cadians are so bad that even those guys looks good in comparison.
>>94650752It's case with every faction. Codex is meant to sell you that your faction is the best, marines are the best, custodes are the best, guard can drown their enemies in bodies, nids will adapt and win, tau win by superior tactic and firepower, orks will just build stuff out of scrap and win, eldar will see the future and counter each enemy move, chaos is super powerfull and can do everything, necrons have such advanced tech they can't be countered.Then come other faction codex or novel and suddenly they job hard, are killed by most retarded shit that should never kill them and their genius commanders are complete retards who only know how to order charge.
>>94650781How do you measure that? And why do you expect it to overshadow the much more hyped Eldar refresh? And what makes you think people would still be excited after all the time that's passed?
>>94649914In 2000 years (iirc) they went from discovering fire to exceeding most non-elite Imperial tech, so absolutely.
>>94650804Holy shit I see you
>>94650781The problem is that most IG players just don't want to play cavalry and would also prefer to not have a named character in a box, because that removes value from repeated purchases.So in the end here you've only got a heavy weapon emplacement and 5 combat engineers. I don't think it matters how good the Death Riders are if the army's fans just aren't interested in fielding them.
>>94650781you're really desperate to force this meme aren't you
>>94650418>Zero necron casualties Winning as always.
>>94650804I hate globohomo with every fibre of my being. In the 90's, the store would've been decorated with soulful cardboard cutouts and posters. Now it looks like a bloody mall boutique.
>>94650808NTA and this is just me but I was about to start a whole new krieg army and the enthusiasm has mostly calmed down which is good cause now I can finish wat I already have.
>>94650818That's because they phase out, dumbass
>>94650819there would also be 2 gaming tables, there is none
>>94650425Yes anon.Space marines do indeed have bones inside of them
>>94650781Maybe cause GW has been silent about the Codex. I don’t understand it’s coming out next month and we have no new news. The worse thing I can think of is that it will come out at the very end of January.
>>94650818They don't leave corpses retard
I haven't been involved with 40k since 2016 and early 8th ed, have there been any major developments with the blood angels since then?
>>94650831The newest refresh don’t make them cringe anymore
>>94650827Now you'll tell me that dreadnoughts have knees.
>>94650831They got a bunch of new models just a few months ago.
>>94650831Units got removedScupts got worse for non-charactersAnd oh uh Dante dispatched the 3rd Company to reinforce Armaggedon
>>94650831how much did you like wings?
>>94650804make sure you record yourself spilling your spaghetti in public
>>9465083190% of them died and were replaced by primaris so they essentially no longer exist.
>>94650835Of course not. They have vents.
>>94650827Yes ME!
>plushies and merch everywhere>stocks nothing more than a normal GW store despite being double the size (aside from a small section of FW and the merch)>literally all TOW gets is a single shelf for 2 books>big screen playing all the animations MAKE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE TO WARHAMMER+>a troonyeah this store is ass
If swooping hawks decided to teach a tau as a joke, what would that tau be called?
>the blood angels got a worse refresh speed againHere we go…
>>94650824Only if they are not damaged enough to get actually destroyed.And necrons like the flayed ones have their resurrection revoked to not infect the tomb.
>>94650811How fat is he?
>>94650837>And oh uh Dante dispatched the 3rd Company to reinforce ArmaggedonSo 11th really is gonna be 4th war for Armageddon.
>>94650850Tauh
>>94650837>And oh uh Dante dispatched the 3rd Company to reinforce ArmaggedonAgain?The more things change the more they stay the same.
>>94650850
>>94650853im about this size
>>94650855Yeah except with Kreig instead of Steel Legion.
>>94650850hawk twauh
>>94650864Post cock. In the store of course
>>94650871its too small, I play tau you see
>>94650866It's gonna be a proper ork refresh with multipart boyz and lootas and whatnot vs space marines as always.
>>94650831Death Company are a paintjob now.
>>94650879At least it isn't squated cuz Cawl fixed it.
>>94650879Always were
>>94650875Use a fire warrior for scale
bought some second hand flash gitz and started repainting them. First boy done
>>94650882No and now I have no way of fielding thunder hammers outside of terminators.
>Valrak says that the White Scars, Raven Guard, Imperial Fists, and Iron Hands are gonna gets loads of new stuff for each of themSo are they gonna get the same level of love as the SW, DA, and BA? They're gonna get unique units, characters and their own codexes
>>94650781>no proper regular guardsman box, only have the killteam models>no grenadiers>no upgrade sprue for the rogal dorn or leman russNot really surprising honestly.
>>94650829>>94650824
>>94650897who cares it's just gonna be primaris slop.
>>94650896You never had the models in the first place.
>>94650902Not everyone is like you.
>>94650829yes they do, if they're still functional they phase out but otherwise they're just left as a corpse on the ground until an ark comes to pick them up
>>94650897Primaris Dark Fury Assault Squad now!!!!!!!!
>>94650908Righteous.
>>94650781>everyone knew that krieg were being updated>the update we are getting is just regular ass krieg like everyone expected.Why would people be over joyed with hype with this?It's just stuff everyone knew was coming.This is like posting an image of a primaris lieutenant, when we have known like 3 months in advance we'll get one, and then asking what killed the hype.
>>94650898>no proper regular guardsman box, only have the killteam modelsThat's a regular infantry squad though? What else do you even want them to have?>no grenadiersTrue, but that's because they now force you to mix regiments and grenadiers are the exact same niche as kasrkin so we have to do with conversions and using kasrkin rules.>no upgrade sprue for the rogal dorn or leman russTrue, a tank commander sprue would be nice.
>>94650781What would sufficient hype look like to you? They showed the models, we discussed the models, the consensus on the models was mostly very positive. What else has there been to discuss since that?
>>94650905You just complain to complain. Did you get a parrot just so you would have someone that will talk at you for the rest of your life?
>>94650920So I should be grateful that they've removed a weapon option that I enjoyed in a unit or what? Why shouldn't I complain?
>>94650897>salamanders forgotten againIt ain't easy being green...
>>94650897Fuck it, just let ALL the primarchs come back. Ferrus Manus, Dorn, and Jaghatai all come back because why the fuck notGW knows that they're all gonna be money printers anyway>but what about the loreThe lore died the moment guilliman returned and the coming of primaris . Just release all the cool shit
>>94650898>no proper regular guardsman box, only have the killteam modelsYou mean a regular guardsmen box plus an extra sprue for kill team options?>no grenadiersGrenadiers and Engineers have been merged.>no upgrade sprue for the rogal dorn or leman russThat's what spares from the infantry box are for.
>>94650810would be awesome to see them advance like that, like all of the factions falling from grace while these new guys just keep on rising
>>94650882In 5-9th they were special unit with multiple weapon options, not special paint job.
>>94650918>That's a regular infantry squad though? What else do you even want them to have?To make a regular box of krieg infantry, and then make the kill team box into "krieg veterans" or something.
>>94650897How did the guy famous for shitposting that the eldar need to be turned into human sex slaves beome a reputable figure?..
>>94650931I'm saying that it would be the exact same kit. You just want a different packaging?
>>94650925Based, fuck child killers.
>>94650927>>Grenadiers and Engineers have been merged.>no hotshot lasguns>the mask and armor looks wrong>only shotguns and macesThey weren't. They are just engineers and that is it.
>>94650928Anon their point is that tau are speedrunning their fall, they are on same patch DAoT humans were and it ends badly.They will never reach necron/eldar tech levels unless they find C'tan/Old One to give it to them.
>>94650744You sound like a fag.
>>94650933>How did the guy famous for shitposting that the eldar need to be turned into human sex slaves beome a reputable figure?Because he was, and still is, right.
>>94650934I want more sculpts.Also I don't want the crouching krieg, he is ugly.
>>94650946>Also I don't want the crouching krieg, he is ugly.Understandable.>I want more sculpts.Okay but that has nothing to do with krieg getting "a proper infantry squad instead of a kill team".
>>94650829
>>94650744cat AND cleavage pictures anon
>>94650938I mean the Necrons got pretty far even without the Ctan/Old Ones tech but this idea of the Tau falling all the same is sad, but this is grimdark I guess
>Total War's top content creator said that Creative Assembly is 100% gonna make Total War 40k>CA also put out a statement that they will reveal their next big project next yearIT'S COMING IT'S COMINGIT'S COMING!!!!!!!!
>>94650837What units?>>94650838I think they're cool>>94650843>>94650879Are the regular tac squad and death company at least still around?
>>94650555yeah we noticed, but we didnt really have the funds for 1k points + supplies for a game we didnt know we liked yetdid have fun though, so I'm gonna keep looking into raising the points
>>94650960>death companyNo>regular tac squadFor now. They gave them rules so ridiculously bad though that it's clear they want them to stop selling so they can drop them next edition. Same with devastators and vanguard vets.
>>94650958>>/vg/ is this way brother, we spend retarded amounts of money on plastic crack here not faction dlcs
>>94650925Stay strong brother. For now just enjoy ap-1 infernus marines and kitbashing your own characters.
>>94650897>gonna gets loadsthe only loads you're getting are rich in proteinhe just said there's potential for them to get something but it's even less confirmed than the usual rumors
>>94650958Considering how incompetent CA is with Total War Warhammer, 40k one will be complete disaster. Still people will buy it because space marines.Can't wait for block of 50 marines and block of 120 gaurdsmen unloading on eachother like some sort of napoleonic square formation but full auto.
>>94650931I take it you haven't picked up a krieg kill team box? The killteam part is just a regular halfsprue upgrade. It was always intended for use as a krieg infantry squad
>>94650958I am once again here to tell you that a Total War 40k game can't happen because the Total War formula doesn't work for anything that isn't based on lines of infantry. If they do make a 40k game it won't work anything like a Total War game.
>>94650958Leak already happened a bit back.Initial factions are>Ultramarines (Guilliman, Calgar)>Black Legion (Abaddon, Haarken)>Necrons (Szarekh, Imotekh)>Tyranids (Swarmlord, Deathleaper)>Orks (Ghazghkull, Mozrog)
>>94650952>Okay but that has nothing to do with krieg getting "a proper infantry squad instead of a kill team".It does.If chaos marines can get 2 different kits of infantry then krieg can as well.Yes. I'm autistic.Yes. I will die on this hill.
>>94650960>Are the regular tac squad and death company at least still around?Tac squads are assMandatory 10-man, no combat squadding, 140 points>Death Company They're around and a good unit but they no longer have cool bespoke models and are just Intercessors with a paintjob
>>94650977You see anon, it will work because ... reasons.You have ratling guns in game so it's no diferent from marines or guard.They will just change parts of TW formula that doesn't fit 40k, even if they make it into FPS it still will be total war game.
>>94650977>If they do make a 40k game it won't work anything like a Total War game.Or worse yet.Total War: 40k works exactly like the WHF ones, ie. all your dudes are just lines of infantry which just breaks the combat and makes it shit.
>>94650990Anon the CSM kit from the kill teams is the exact same sprues as the regular CSM squad.
>>94650970Elaborate on the albino salamander on the right.
>>94651000I don't care. They still have 2 kits.
>>94650991If they let tacs go 5-10, had an actual special rule and gave boltguns -1AP already then tacs would be the best troop choice which is why they don't do it.
>>94650937They have grenadier-ish masks and engineer-ish body armour.
>>94650991>Mandatory 10-man, no combat squaddingmight wanna check your sources
>>94651007So you want to have the exact same sprues but without the KT sprue? Why?
>>94650926Gee sanguinius, why does the emperor let you have TWO infernus pistols?
>>94650430Those tables make the game actually less tactical
>>94651007It's one kit, the kill team box is the same kit with an upgrade sprue. This is exactly the same as what Krieg are getting.
>>94651012at least give them ignore cover so they have partial AP1
>>94650985>Guilliman and Abaddon being base gameLol. They're gonna be fucking paid DLC 100%.
I left the store after 10 minsits actual assI went to forbidden planet around the corner and that had cooler stuff
>>94650958Total 40k will crash and burn before it comes close to the support total warham got.
>>94651033No pictures?
>>94650894very nice
Hello, I am a Reiver marineAfter nearly a decade, I am somewhat usable now. Please buy my model and use me :)
>>94650977So? Doesn't mean it won't sell fuckloads.
>>94651041no
>>94650958>TWW40k before TW 30 years warI hate CA I hate CA I hate CA
>>94651044So it won't be a Total War game in any shape or form just like Halo Wars 2 wasn't a Total War game despite being made by CA. In fact I think it'll be more likely for the 40k game to work like Halo Wars 2.
>>94651032>Implying GW would miss out on shilling the big $70 faction leader models ASAP
>>94650977>If they do make a 40k game it won't work anything like a Total War game.So it has a chance of being actually good?
>>94651016Going off memory.I know for a fucking fact they're mandatory 10.
>>94651067And their 10th edition mandatory special rule is combat squading the unit (at the expense of an actually useful rule)
>>94650968>>94650991That fucking sucks, I wanted more death company too. I guess I can convert them if we still have tacticals
>>94651067Their special rule is combat squad. That's it. What every other unit gets for free (being able to run 5 to 10) they need a special rule while other units get actually useful special rules.
>>94651037just the one posted outside earlierits just a GW store with giant plushies in it, nothing special
>>94651014Still means fuck all because there are no hotshot lasguns in the kit meaning they aren't grenadiers.
>>94651075I like both
>>94650985Retard move. They put all the most popular armies into game 1. This isn't WHFB where elves were massively more popular than humans.
>>94651082>What every other unit gets for freeHey now, every other unit also would get an extra sergeant out of two 5 man squads, so really tac squads are paying for the privilege of something worse.
>>94650612If you think Eldar were only ever super OP in 7th, you're a fake grog.
>>94651077Oh noes! Here’s the setup! We don’t have them anymore!!!!!!
>>94651085Sure, but I am explaining to you why those are gone and will never return. Convert and poxy kasrkin or cry forever.
>>94651092Also because they are firstborn they have the privilege of getting 1 less attack on all their melee weapons. Most of the time. Cause 10th's statline system is a fucking mess.
>>94651096They've been insanely busted in this current edition for that matter, so it's not even really historical revisionism. Just ignorance
>>94651103They've been busted this edition? No. They WERE busted this edition. They've implies they still are which they're certainly not
>>94650965this was our two armies btworks were pretty clearly stronger
>>94651124why is your table so smol
>>94651124Don't even need a movement phase when you play like this
>>94650897It's just gonna be an index with a buffed version of their base codex detachment and a few more HQ's built out of existing kits.
>>94650807Eldar codex isn't like this, it plays up the failed and doomed race thing
>>94650897When they're as popular as BA, DA, and SW, which will never happen. The closest are Salamanders and then that's a stretch for them
>>94651103It's what, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th , 9th and 10th where they've been a top 1-3 army?
>>94651172Almost everyone was busted on their codex release in 9th
I’m going to say it.You won’t like it.But it needs to be said. Space marines are not that cool!
10th is so bland9th was too but now it's even worseSince 8th 40k hasn't even felt like a war game desu
>>94651004He’s younger and not a veteran so he hasn’t undergone the ritual exposure to a reactor core mydudes do in place of visiting Nocturne since they’re on the other side of the galaxy by the Ghoul stars.
>>94651165Yeah, because thousand sons, kroot and votann only got models released in response to their massive pre-existing popularity.
>>94651162Even then exarchs are best warriors ever don't even start about phoenix lords, aspect are kicking ass, farseers can predict everything, they can put their dead in resilient wraith constructs, their tech is superior, avatar is god of war incarante and craftworlds are still kicking ass despite muh doomed race. Outside codex they are massive fuckups even in their own books(thanks gav), but in codex eldar are still presented as superior to others despite dying.
>>94651165Where is each first founding chapter popularity-wise? I'm thinking:DA/BA>SW>>>>>>iron hands>salamanders>imperial fists>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the other chapters
>>94651200Thousand sons and kroot were model refreshes, and kroot did not get a codex. Mentioning votaan also makes you look like a fucking idiot "uhm well akshully your point is moot because they released a new faction" fucking dumbass
>>94651215No way iron hands are more popular than salamanders
>parents know I like warhammer stuff but dont really know the specifics of armies or whatever>they bought me some boxes I asked for already, but they wanted to surprise me for christmas so they got me a cool extra unit as well>Unfortunately its not for any army I play or am interested in much (Pic related)>They assured me that they talked to the store owner and I can go exchange it for something of the same price so its not like they'll get upset or anything>Still I feel a bit bad bringing up about exchanging it after saying I love it and stuff, the models are pretty cool ngl. I just don't really know what to do lads. Should I bite the bullet and go exchange it with them sometime in the near future, or should I just keep them and proxy them as something?
>>94651195You take that back or I will be very cross with you.
>>946511969th wasn't bland. Sure it lacked morale, AVs or templates but it wasn't bland. It had plenty of flavour, thematic rules and customization. 9th was just a bloated mess of systems. But as always GW learned the wrong lessons.
>>94650781Because it adds nothing to what guard already have. We have cavalry, artillery and infantry aplenty Anyone not retarded could’ve added gas masks to their models it didn’t need to be another range
>>94651195we know
>>94651236Are these the dumbest models GW's ever released? Worse than Desolation marines easily
>>94651233what army do you have? because I'm sure there can be a way to convert the into something fun
Okay, I need you guys to explain something to a retard whose only tabletop experience is DnD 5e. What the FUCK is Toughness? I get the "attacking" side of things, conceptually. You have WS/BS as the equivalent of a proficiency bonus (but individualized to the weapons being used) and Strength as your "attacking stat" determining likelihood of hitting, and then Damage is distinct from those two. It's more granular than I'm used to, but each stat makes sense on a conceptual level.Then the "defending" side of things throws me for a fucking loop. Wounds is HP, cool. How many times you can get hit and keep going. Easy to grasp. Save is like armor or dodge or whatever, how difficult it is to actually hit you. But Toughness is... also that, in terms of mechanics? But described as "resilience against physical harm?" Which is... HP? What the fuck is Toughness? This shit feels redundant to my retarded brain. How are there more defensive concepts than "how hard thing is to hit" and "how hard thing can get hit and keep fighting?"
>>94651246Yeah, I'm a huge marinefag but not even I can defend the centurions.
>>946512399th was bland as fuck>sure, it lacked all the things that make a wargame fun and feel like an actual battle, but i had 50 strategies, 45 of which were useless but they were all so flavorful! Also, I got to decide whether i brought a sergeant with a plasma pistol or not :)
>>94651233Start a guard army and use them as bits for Ogryns I I guess? Or some unique Rough Rider unit. Other options include Tau Auxiliary or maybe Delder Grotesques.
>>94651240I don’t care for this sloptuber, anyways guard is bloat manifest you knew what you were signing up for. Now if they were traitor guard…
>>94651240Mordian's takes based like always.I love when people realize halfway through an edition that 40k is garbage, same thing happened in 9th and I got to play so many different other games as people branched outI'm thinking it's KT time at least those armies have flavor
>>94651215>>94651231IH aren't popular, their popularity was based on broken rules, famous smashfucker etc, not because of faction. No more broken rules no more common IH.Ultramarines are most popular because entry level marines. Salamanders and IF are before IH.
>>94651250Necrons and Nids are probably out.I don't really see them fitting Sisters or Dangels.Maybe something for CSM? Some sort of cultists or something? >>94651260I really cant start another army I have too many already. And I dont really like guard.
>>94651246>Are these the dumbest models GW's ever released?No, not by mile. GK babycarriers exist, Centurions at least somehow make some sense as exo suits with added protection and firepower, baby carriers offer no additional protection and just hand pilot up front. There is also Eldar war walker and whatever necron arcs are.
>>94651267imperial fists are not popular, crimson fists and black templars don't count
>>94651257>I got to decide whether i brought a sergeant with a plasma pistol or notthat is unironically the most important thing in 40k
Free wargear but only if you take a max sized squad
>>94651296every datasheet has a lower cost, and an extra cost that unlocks all wargear options
>>94651233why don't you make a 1500pts army for TOW? Ogres are the cheapest army and fun to paint
>>94651267IH are also there because their thing is mechs/vehicles, which is generally speaking a pretty well recieved part of 40k.This thread is the only place that as a whole dislikes nudreads, they have OldDreads, land raiders and the like.Black is easy to paint too
>>94651233>90x52mm baseI dunno boss, not a lot might fit.If you feel like keeping them Ogres are a moderately 'cheap' army in AoS. That box alone is 360p.
What is a decent airbrush/compressor to start out with?Should I just buy one of those chinkshit ones off Amazon by fake companies with 4 random capital letters for a name?
>>94651254>What the FUCK is Toughness?consult the chart
>>94651305You're still missing the point, no one actually likes iron hands
>>94651129>>94651142we were reading the rules for the first time as we were going along lol, we had no idea how to set things up
>>94651142Tau players hate this one simple trick!
>>94651313So, Toughness is a way of adding durability to a unit in a manner distinct from armor, which is subject to the AP modifier, then? But also in a manner distinct from Wounds, which is used to signify more actually valuable units?
>>94651329>Wounds, which is used to signify more actually valuable unitswounds it's for size and importance a hero character has more wounds because he's a hero, even though it might be exactly as big and wear the same armour as a normal soldier of the same army
>>94651099Damn. Do they have any bespoke models?
>>94651254It's not very hard, retard. Your hit roll actually determines if you hit your opponent or not. The save is the level of armour your opponent has, and then the thoughness is how though he is after being hit and said hit penetrating his armour. The wounds stat determines how many life threatening wounds he can take before going down. They're just not in that order due to ease of play.
It's probably too much to ask that gw ever expand the tau lore to get a really new and unique looking unit that isn't just a scaled up/down crisis suit.right?
>>94650781my hype for your inane posts is dying down
>>94651254Are you retarded?>plays d&d 5eOk you are retarded.Then WS/BS is your skill with weapon how good are you at aiming/hitting stuff.Strenght is how hard you hit.Toughness is how resilient you are, normal human is easly killed by gunshoot, dinosaur bug godzilla tyranid beast will mostly ignore normal guns and need something heavier like rocket launcher with higher strenght to damage it. Ork boy, space marine and tyranid warrior need to be hit harder than guardsmen.W is how much hp you have. Save is armor, power fields, cover, doge and other stuff that can protect you from damage.
>>94651352>the thoughness is how though he is after being hit and said hit penetrating his armourNot anymore, toughness is based off armor now too, see gacha being t6 and terminator armor t5
>>94651359>Are you retarded?>>plays d&d 5e>Ok you are retarded.Pretty sure I admitted to being retarded twice in that post you replied to. Solid write-up from someone lacking in literacy though, so an unironic thanks from me regardless.
>>94651254The precise nature of what toughness represents in 40k is an infamously nebulous thing; just don't worry about it
>>94651352>the thoughness is how though he is after being hit and said hit penetrating his armourisn't that Feel No Pain
>>94650866DKoK can at least trace their lineage to the famous regiments of Armaggedon series like the Elysians, Salvar and Ork Hunters.
>>94651270>Maybe something for CSM? Some sort of cultists or something?I could see the steeds getting turned into chaotic cyber hounds that can count as chaos bikers, perhaps following around a lord discordant. while the ogre riders could be turned into chaos ogryns that will count as spawns, but for them to look good when not riding something they need some work with the legs' posing.how many spare demon engine bits and bobs do you have?
Taufags, help me out with a list concept here. I'm jumping into 40k at the deep end and want to build my first army with emphasis on recon themed units. This is what I have so far:>1xCommander>1xPathfinders>1xKroot War Shaper>1xKroot Farstalkers>1x Vespids>1xGhostkeelPls help expanding this and maybe some general tactics I should be aware of for this list style.
>>94651372No, that's simply not feeling the pain and having the willpower to keep going :^) it's like shitting your pants while running a marathon but keep on running until you pass the finishing line. You still shat your pants, doe
>>94651195but they are armed astronauts with advanced suits that can demolish regular vehicles with ease
Finshed a combat squad. Think I'll do the other half next year.
>>94651404>doe
>>94649702Really depends on your opponent, desu. I run a similar list, and having all of those guys is fun, but it also drags on a bit with all the shooting and lacks in the "fuck up big guys" department. Against one friend with a ton of IG and only a few heavy vehicles, I do pretty alright, but against my buddy with his heavy armor-laden CSM army, it's kinda down to luck if I don't bring bigger guns.
>Start reading one of the HH books>It's about Ultramarines, with a supporting cast of a thousand son, space wolf, and some world eaters>The ultramarines consistently manage to be more boring than watching paint dryHow the fuck did they become the poster boys?
But how does wearing a power pack make the daemon prince tougher
>>94651418blue and yellow(gold)
>>94651418You're reading Battle for the Abyss aren't you? Drop that right now and read Know No Fear instead.
>>94651418You do realize they became the poster boys way before bald, bearded faggots with glasses started writing schlock for autists about them, right? And to answer your question on why they became the poster boys, blue simply goes great against green flock.
How... do I actually learn how tf to play warhammer? This shit seems impossible.
>>94651347Characters and sanguinary guards. The new guards look like shit.
>>94651439its actually brain dead easy, hard part is remember all the other faction rules
>>94651439Naw they dumbed warhammer the fuck down it's a boringly simple game
>>94651439read your book for an overview of the basics and your army rules, arrange a game with a local autist who will teach you the rules in practical termsgive him a quickie as thanks
How can we better gatekeep newfags?
>>94651476You cannot gatekeep a corporate product.
>>94651439Most of us managed to play more complicated editions when we were kids without access to YouTube. Some of us are ESL-tards. It's not that hard.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qhwxnsbr/warhammer-40000-battlefield-trophies-festoon-your-bases-with-your-vanquished-foes/Does this mean that the Citadel Skulls box is going away?
>>94651476Start playing 4e or RT or something like that. Hell, I think it's even possible to gatekeep 9th by now.
>>94651491Finally I can express my hatred for Krieg physically along with verbally
>>94651433I'll look into itAll I've read so far are>Horus Rising>False Gods>Galaxy in Flames>Flight of the Eisenstein>Fulgrim>Descent of Angels>Legion
>>94651491I don't think so. They linked to the Citadel skull box in the article, and most of these skulls can't be used in Smegmar anyways
>>94651511Could a stormcast defeat an armored space marine in hand to hand combat?
>>94651329Toughness is used to differentiation stuff liek Orks having tougher bodies than a human. So orks traditionally have high toughness for infantry but bad armour saves, whilst marines have good armour saves and guardsman are T3 and have a bad save.Saves interact with AP, toughness interacts with the strength of the attacking weapon
>>94651526No. Stormcast are just peak humans, not superhumans.
>>94651526No. They don't exist in the same universe so they'd never fight one another
>>94651537Chaos timey wimey multiverse shit
>>94651495>Finally I can express my hatred for Krieg physically along with verballyWhy the hate for Krieg?
>>94651215Ultras>DA/BA>SWBlood Ravens and Black Templars are more popular than other 1st founding chapters
>>94651476None of you even play the game but you won't shut the fuck up about gatekeeping lmfao
>>9465153840k is set in a snow globe in a wizard's tower in WFB anr WFB is set on a 40k planet engulfed by a warp storm. There's no chance they would fight.
>>94651545BT yesBlood Ravens maybe but doubtful, DoW 1 and 2 came out a long time ago and no one cares about DoW 3
>>94651551I think that's projection on your part man
>>94651541They're boring
>>94651534No. Stormcast are demigods and of the same size as Space Marines.
>>94651476Stress the important of drilling if you want to be in the hobby.
>>94649833Check out FabricatorsLair on MMF. Should be exactly what you're looking for
>>94651476ACAMAlwaysComplainAboutMoldlines
>>94651553thats never been consistent for either, the most consistent is that they are two universes connected to the same warp
>>94651568>stress the importance of drilling>can't even confirm drilled butt due to wrong angle
>Black Legion player keeps blasting Sabaton on their turns againMake it stop...
>world eaters player keep playing Raining Blood on their turn
>>94651300I just dont really find them super interesting. >>94651378I have the two csm battleforces that came out this year, as well as the old boarding patrol and vashtor's box.
>ultramarine players keep playing Blue (Da Ba Dee) on their turn
>>94650938Retard. DAoT didn't end because of any problems caused by DAoT. Unless new Chaos God starts awakening or Tau start developing Psykers on mass scale, being like DAoT will only be good for them.Also Eldar aren't parasiting on Old Ones tech. Their greatest creations are purely of their make and Eldar mastered and extended Webway. Eldar didn't just take stuff left by Old Ones.
>>94651621Sabaton is Guardcore, tell him to play something more fitting. Death Metal would work but I'm unfamiliar with the genre, these songs are directly related to CSM: https://youtu.be/_p1yaNC1mNg?si=UPK433koCHC0d0sWhttps://youtu.be/jUwh-C5w7II?si=1Cw3lOcJ-MrkiXab
>>94651641>not a tau playerHe's doing it wrong.
>>94651491>No Grey Knights>No Emperor's Children>No Votann>No Drukhari>No Harlequins>No AdMechAt least they got all the real factions. Even Custodes are there.
>>94651621>AdMech player keeps playing Dopesmoker on repeat Please make it stop, it's simply top groovy for me
>>94651653>Death Metal would work but I'm unfamiliar with the genrehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvC71-dtp4Q&ab_channel=AnotherMetalChannelLiterally THE WH40k band, death metal too.
>>94651653>these songs are directly related to CSMpretty sure more cock didn't work for gw
>dark angels player keeps singing YMCA during his turns
>>94651695he's just getting into character
>>94650496I mean, a decapitated knight head is gonna take a fair bit of space on your basing. At least Brother Limbless over there is flat enough to stand on/over, your guy would be riding that head like a Sybian.
>>94651653what would GSC players listen to?
>>94651714blue oyster cult
>tzeench player can't stop playing reflection from Mulan on their turn
>>94651714master of puppets on repeat
>>94651714A recording of their wife getting railed by a stronger, richer and more attractive man.
please GW give the Tau a cool superweapon of some kind that still fits them just to make them a tad bit less lame
>Votann player keeps playing diggy diggy hole(yogscast version) on repeat during his turns
>>94651714What elsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3MX-rUtS6M
Is there an army you would love if it wasn't ruined ruined by one line of models?I think votaan are cool but i can't fucking stand any hernkyn model they all look awful. Beserks too.In fact other than hearthkyn and the vehicles they fucking butchered the votann release
>>94651714https://youtu.be/3vSH9pMzHm0?si=mR-4Kg4sdS-8k4QX
here's how to grimdark the Tau>give them a superweapon obtained from research on tau-aligned humans>Giant psychic nuke>Barely affects Tau since they're dull to the warp>Very effective against everything else>Every shot fired kills twice as many auxillaries as enemies but it's for the greater good
>>94651700>>94651695For the modern day it'd be Charlie XCX songs
>>94651750>Guard player keeps playing Sabaton music on repeat during his turns
>>94651441Grim. Why'd they even change everything? The model range was still relatively new and the sculpts looked good.
>>94651672I fucking love Bolt Thrower.
>>94651641>Ultramarine player keeps cloaking the land in deepest bluehttps://youtu.be/wpsgc3m__zg?si=524ieQUJRl2_KtkY
FUCK ITFINEI GIVE UPYOU WIN, EVIL SPACE ELVESwhat else do I need to reach 1k after this
>>94651383Kroot Lone Spear is a recon unit and also very cool looking, while fitting in with your existing auxiliary team. Stealth Suits are also a dedicated (and powerful) observer unit. You'd also want something heavy hitting that your recon guys are spotting for, I'd suggest Broadsides or a Skyray for that.
>>94651823500 ravagers
>>94651823>he bought dead faction soon to be squattedLol. Lmao.
>>94651750I put on SC and SC 2 Terran themes
>>94651823Get 2 of those, and throw in a cronos and a venom. That'll put you right around 1k before enhancements.
>>94651815dont ever reply to me with this gay ass shit again
>grey knight player keeps playing "Little girls" by Oingo Boingo during his turns
>>94651621>>94651653>>94651671>>94651695>>94651750>>94651800>playing music at allWouldn't this just make yourself very unreasonably loud at the LGS for other players?
>>94651845So 2 patrols, a Cronos, a venom, and then the rest is just characters, maybe some Dark Scourges and then twenty thousand out-of-print fineshart aliens?
>>94651682He might as well have.
>>94651849Fuck you it's kino
>>94651810Because >every model must be Primaris >Gw decided to phone it in for the BA refresh
>>94650386>Same baby carrier garbageThe thing that makes it a baby carrier is the visible legs dangling, the chubby proportions of the marine's armor, and the big diaper in front. In what way is the nundam a baby carrier? You don't have to LIKE the paragon warsuit design, but that doesn't make it objectively bad. I like it and think it's cool, and so do plenty of others. Just make your own design with mortifiers or something.
>>94651873TBF mogs every shonen anime so hard it's not even funny.
>>94651551>implying gatekeeping isn't absolutely necessary if you don't want your hobby to turn into mainstream garbage catered to the lowest comon denominatorit's already far too late for 40k, but you still need to go back
>>94651866That's the joke you autistic retard
>>94651823A second combat patrol and add a chronos or two
>>94651893What's with these retards who think 40k wasn't extremely popular at least as far back as 3rd?Oh wait they're all zoomers and don't know warhammer has always been popular
>>94651906there's a difference between being popular in its niche and being flat out mainstream you imbecile
>>94651900Anon.there are two in the basket
>>94651919And there's a difference between being a zoomer, like you, who can't comprehend that things existed and were popular before he knew about them, and not being a zoomer
>>94651926>no argumentI accept your concession
Just played a few games against my SM friend with the new rules.I'm not sure how I like the new rules. Codex SM needed buffs and he was already playing it and it was fun having a very close game (he did end up winning) with a half-viable list. The problem is that it feels really bad when I play big/expensive stuff. Sure, a full squad of canoptek wraiths aren't the best as is, but having them melt like butter feels really bad. If you have a unit whose defense mostly come from their high toughness it really hurts. On the one hand it was needed, on the other it feels a bit shit to play against. Have any of you had any time to play against new SM?
>>94651906It's an American thing. Warhammer has always been super mainstream in the UK but not so much the rest of the world
>>94651823>>94651845>running DE without talos or reaversngmi
>>94651935Nah it was popular in the US too, I'm American and made the comment about 3rd edThe other dude is just a retard. He probably also gets mad when people remind him that 40k is satirical
>>94651906It's culture war yanks hopping on the train recently I think.
>Krieg player keeps playing his Nachtmahr album during his turnFugg u bichass niggas I like the guy's music and I don't even play Krieg, but I play guard
>>94651922Ah, well then buy a Cronos or two and maybe a venom or scourges
>>94651955and then everybody clapped
>>94651559Fair enough.In all seriousness though, what are some unexplored guard aspects that all of you find interesting that hasn't been done in model form?
>>94651953Definitely chud culture war retards
>>94651955>Kreig player begins blasting Erika>Krieg player is wearing his WW2 German SS reenactment uniform>Krieg player begins roman saluting the god emperor
>>94651962You're supposed to use the meme phrase when someone is describing a situation or an event that definitely did not happen.Please stop trying to learn memes as they will cause what the kids say is "brainrot." You seem like you're safe for now due to misusing a meme phrase.
>>94651946In the UK, it was super mainstream - to the point where I brought in my models to work so I could play a game after it, like 60% of the guys at work had played it before and/or collected it as kids
>>94651969It's both sides, retarded yank chuds and yank leftoids both had opinions on le female custodes purely because their politics sloptubers and twitterfags suddenly acted like they give a shit about 40k
>>94651922remove the cronos and add 2 talos
>>94650242GOD DAMN IT EVERY FUCKING DAY NECROMUNDA GETS THE BEST FUCKING SHIT AND WE GET THE FUCKING DREGS AND PITY RESCULPTS OF 25 YEAR OLD MODELS NOBODY USES ON THE TABLETOP.THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT AND ITS BEEN GOING ON FOR LIKE TWO FUCKIN' YEARS
>>94651981Why are you sperging out and bringing up fem custodes out of fucking nowhere retard
How does he make money? Does he get a salary? Who pays him? Does he pay his retainers? Does that money come out of his pocket or someone else's?
>>94651828>Kroot Lone SpearPut on the list, thanks!>Stealth SuitsThey seemed like a no-brainer, but I kinda dislike the sculpts.>something heavy hittingHammerheads look great, would they make sense?
>>94651995Got triggered that someone made fun of chuds I'm guessing
>>94651995Because it caused a huge flood of retarded tertiaries who just wanted to shitfling?
>>94651997>How does he make money?requisitions the ministratum>Does he get a salary?no>Who pays him?nobody, unless he requisitions money from someone>Does he pay his retainers?Some do, most don't>Does that money come out of his pocket or someone else's?ultimately someone elses, though every loyal citizen's pocket is the inquisition's pocket
>>94652008Which has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation you felt the need to insert your autistic rambling into
>>94652026Ok
>>94651997I imagine inquisitors have a huge budget set aside by the administratum besides all the things the position affords you with its influence already.
>>94651995you're literally the one that brought up culture war chuds first you fucking aspie
Stop fighting you guys it's christmas
>>94652042Yeah, CHUDS who are saying "muh gatekeeping," leftists are not chuds you esl retard
>>94651955>NachtmahrOh my god he's still going.>latest album is "Verboten".Heh I see what he did there.I feel all warm and fuzzy inside as I used to listen to this guy's music a lot after I stumbled on some Hellsing Ultimate AMVs.This guy honestly was ahead of his time in being edgy as he incorporates fascist imagery instead of satanic imagery for shock value. I would listen to German music as a kid because I was a bit of a metalhead or whatever you wanna call it and my parents hated the idea of hearing swear words in music. Can't get me for listening to bad lyrics if you can't understand the lyrics.I collect guard miniatures, but lately since seeing a resin guard kill team that looks like a scruffy mob in militaryesque outfits I've been wanting to restart my guard project and use AnvilIndustry bits.
>Lion's guard lore>A bunch of average humans braving the worst of the worst alongside their beloved Primarch as bodyguards with basic shit like shotguns but they still manage to impress the guy>Lion's guard box>Here have some bladeguard vets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMuP01GlQi4>ultramarine, 8th cadian, black legion, Tau sept, hive fleet leviathan and Sautekh Dynasty players when it's time to play
>Eldar player doesn't play any music during his turn
>>94651999>Hammerheads look great, would they make sense?They work too. I recommend that you either magnetize or simply don't glue the turret, because then you can swap between a HH and Skyray as you fancy.
>dark eldar enjoyer entershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqyjQ6-avK8
>>94650262I have yet to find even a good 3d print proxy for Paragons. They're all significantly worse than the shitty originals.
>>94652063nta let's just agree they both suck ass and move on
>>94652187If it makes you feel better I've yet to find 28mm scale skeletons in STL pieces for basing. All I manage to get are full skeleton miniature STLs or just regular skulls for basing.
>>94651965I really just want to see Vostroyan Firstborn in plastic. Actual kits for the penal legions/Savlar Chem-Dogs would be cool too.
>>94651997It works funny in Darktide. Because it's a live-service game it's basically designed to incentivize players to maximize the amount of time and money they put into the game. The way that translates into the game is that there are several different vendors for different sorts of equipment, upgrades, and cosmetics. And all those vendors use their own currency which has to be accrued through different means. Because capitalism.And while that sucks, it's also kind of fitting. The players are forced conscripts, convicts that were given the choice to either die or fight on the front lines of a war they barely understand. They're outfitted with junk gear and sent into the meat grinder. If they want to improve their chances of survival, they have to buy better equipment on their own dime. Their bosses don't really care if they live or die.Then for example, Sire Darius Melk XIV of House Straxamus, one of the vendors and an acolyte of the Inquisitor in charge, sells some of the higher-end equipment (while running a moderately successful corpse starch business on the side). He only accepts Ordo Ingots as payment. Ordo Ingots are tokens earned from completing certain tasks within certain timeframes. Essentially they're company scrip, earned by working for the company and only good for trading with the company. And all of the vendors are like this.So the Inquisitor and his retinue are sort of like their own little economic ecosystem, where they quite literally shanghai people into service, throw them into life-threatening situations, and fund the operation by forcing the victims to pay for the tools they need to survive and complete the job.
>>94652214Nah they're not comparable, the only people who still talk about fem custodes are chuds who are still seething, everyone else just forgot about them like normal people
>>94652233I feel it's because it was such a sudden change but regardless they both exaggerate shit and all of that talk, now let's not turn this into another one of those arguments and talk about something fun, what's fun to ya?
>>94652246Literally any wargame other than 40k
>>94652249did you see that Trench crusade thing?
>>94651977>You're supposed to use the meme phrase when someone is describing a situation or an event that definitely did not happen.Yeah, and he definitely did not play against somebody with a forgeworld krieg army in 2024 who "blasted his heckin german music" on his turns
Do the White Scars have good relations with any of the other first founding chapters? Maybe BA because they also go fast and their space dad was friends with everyone?
>>94652257I have been seeing that.
What's the emperor's name?
>>94652278the demons look pretty sick right? way less cartoony than chaos, though I find charm in both
>>94652283janette
>>94652286Reminds me of Clive Barker's Jericho by Clive Barker
>>94652283Emprah
>>94652283Conan
>>94652283Warhammer
>>94652291Like... the journalist guy from Ace Combat 5?I can headcanon that he was the emperor of mankind I think.
>>94652283Mike
>>94652293reminds me of Zdzisław Beksiński's art
>>94652268Raven Guard because of damocles gulf, BA don't seem to have beef with any first founding chapter, but wouldn't call them close allies. In 30k WS are considered close allies to Salamanders and Sons of Horus. Scars don't seem to have problems with any chapter, like DA and SW, IH with RG and Sallies or UM and IF.
>>94652283John Warhammer.
>>94651997He's someone's (probably some high lord's) diaper baby.
>>94652305he looks nothing like the emperor
>>94652339how do you know? all you've ever seen are psyker projections
>>94652345we may not know his true form, but I think it's implied that certain element like his hair are still the same
What's the consensus on whether the emperor is okay with his current existence?I remember reading people saying that the custodes and rest of the people don't realize that if they let him die he will be reborn properly, which I assume he would prefer? Though I guess it would fuck up warp travel for a time.
>>94652368he wants this because he knows if he dies the warp rift he's sleeping on goes critical and the entire sol system gets destroyed
>>94652368If he dies terra explodes and the imperium falls into a second old night among other horrible things. Dying isn't really an option.
>>94652368He planned for it all along.
>>94652368Anon he speaked with Guilliman and speak to Custodes from time to time, if he wished to be unpluged he just had to say a word.
>>94652283James Workshop
I wonder who is stronger between the Scrin from command and conquer and the nids, I feel this was probably asked before
>the emperor dies>ascends to true godhood>his realm in the warp is just a long table that keeps going forever
>>94652404once I heard he ascends and another time I heard he becomes a 5th chaos deity, which one is it?
>>94652390That's schizophrenic hallucinations form their part, thougever. We simply don't know if the Emperor is aware of his current situation or if he's a vegetable. Everything else is simply speculation. The setting depends on the emperor's situation being unknown and shrouded in mystery.
>>94652418Anon he literally went into Nurgle's Garden, resurrected Guilliman, then burned down most of the Garden on his way out after shitting on Mortarion.The Emperor is very much aware and active.
>>94651972Isn't the steel legion supposed to be the WW2 german analogue whereas the Kreig are just WW1 French/German/English mishmash?
Idk if the topic is verboten but I assume recast BEEG demon/primarch models are all terrible and only the regular sized models come out okay?I *really* don't want to spend 100+ dollars on a single nigga
>>94652418Anon he literally possessed Guilliman and used him to burn Garden of Nurgle. He is 100% aware.I'm not talking about stuff like Storm of Emperor's Wrath that could be send by Emperor or just be coincident during age of apostasy, this was full onn possession when Guilliman had his ass kicked by Mortarion.
>>94652418he revived titus at the end of space marine 2
something I always wanted to know, so the Emperor's sword can permanently kill a daemon instead of just respawning it in the warp to regenerate over eons or get cybernetic enhancements for a cost that they can never pay back, ok do any of the other factions have similar mcguffins that can outright actually get rid of a daemon forever?
>>94652434>>94652444Clearly from an unreliable narrator. Robert has been in stasis for so long he's clearly imagining things while suffering from survivors guilt. I think he's completely lost it.
>>94652418The Emperor being aware is something that’s been an idea since Rogue Trader. The best depiction of the Emperor is the now noncanon one from Inquisition Wars, when Jaq Draco meets Him and learns that He knew everything that he had come to warn him about already.
>>94652482cope
>>94652438Yes, you're correct.The problem is that it is the Kriegers that got the more culturally recognizable helmet and so they get all the flak and attention from pearl clutchers and wehraboos. Meanwhile the Steel Legion has always been the army for the wehraboos.
>>94652438"Krieg players are Nazis" is an ancient dumb meme at this point, try not to think about it.The most Nazi element (also German/Prussian Militarism) is the use of skull imagery like on Grenadier or from the transfer sheet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TotenkopfCadia uses skulls too, it's not that special.
>>94652542I mean if we're just talking about nazi imagery the Imperium is filled with it. Krieg is more WWI France but I guess the gas masks and spiked helmets (which were German but in WWI) make people think of Nazis I guess
>>94652558they also have the stahlhelm skirt on their helmets
>>94650781As a boner-fried Krieger I'll repeat my thoughts on the box from when it got revealed>Grenadiers/Death Riders look great, though the FW sculpts are still a bit better.>Drier is fine, but again it's the problem of "Named character in an Army Set" so people aren't buying this more than once (Myself included). Would've preferred the Krieg Commissar set or just a repack of the Veteran Guardsmen box in there instead.>Artillery Team feels like they took the Earthshaker Carriage Battery, the Thudd Gun, and a Field Ordinance Battery, mushed it all together, and called it a day. Depending on how easy these are to magnetize I don't see myself getting more than one of them.The stuff not in the Army Set look great too, especially the HWTs. The real crime is the new Combat Patrol box being an excuse to offload all the Attilan Rough Riders GW has laying around unsold in warehouses. They could've easily done>New Krieg Commissars>1 squad of the new HWTs>1-2 squads of Veteran Guardsmenand that would've sold like hot cakes, but now that Combat Patrol's gonna shelfwarm even worse than the Rough Riders did on their own even though it comes with Kasrkin.
>>94652402reality bending biomechanical bugs vs hungry assimilating fully organic bugs
>>94652438It was a joke
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>>94650417>I own sooooooooooo many models, anon. YOU'RE the tourist>What? You want to see them? N-no, anon, I can't do that. You'll dox me by the rays of sunlight reflecting off them or something, h-haha.Everytime. I love you faggoty tourist types, it reminds me of those perpetual liars on the playground in 3rd grade.
>>94652851I, personally, am just ashamed to show off that I have an entire room of like 10 grand in unbuilt and grey models for various different war games and have like less than two thousand points of 40k stuff actually painted. And that was commission painted...
>>94651933I don't play against primaris players, so no.
>>946528519k isn't that much in my hobby circle. I pity you newfags
>>94652586Drier should have been usable as a mounted Marshal as an alternative build
