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Has any faction in 40k managed to weaponize black holes? (Shoot a black hole at enemy planet – or star – and watch it disappear completely.)
>>94674615Necrons and I think Dark Eldar. Regular eldar use distortion cannons which sort of do that, but suck the target into the warp instead.
>>94674615Don't the Dark Eldar have black hole weapons? Also trazyn sent a black hole as a troll gift, but I don't recall exactly where is that from.
>>94674615sounds like some shit c'tan or necrons would do
>>94674615Yes. The Custodians have access to DAoT micro-black hole weaponry.
when will chaos knights get on par with the number of kits imperial knights get?should they get access to the lord of skulls and other demon engines?
>>94674620Goddamnit, is there anything Necrons cannot do? (Apart from getting rid of those fleshy living things from galaxy, apparently.)
Sanguinius will return next.
>>94674631They can't get boners
>>94674627Problem is that most of their proper knights are part of the one multi-part kit and their war dogs sell better.
>>94674634Sanguinor's right there tard
>>94674631Make art.
>>94674639Nah, Sang himself will return.But Leman will be before him.
>>94674634No, we already know it's Russ
>>94674643I'd rather he didn't but if he did being like a warp ghost who soothes his sons' madness and sorrow would be neat.
>>94674615I think the ork death stars did that.
Does GW still have that stupid thing that only Belakor is the only undivided daemon? What does that make Lorgar?
>>94674661Undivided daemon PRIMARCH. there's a difference
>>94674627Chaos Knights have more kits than Imperial Knights.There's a Dominus class kit that builds the castellan, valiant and tyrant (the tyrant can use both the valiant and castellan loadouts).Then there's a Questoris class kit that builds like 6 variants. These are named for IKs, but for CK they all fall under the umbrella of the Knight Despoiler. There is only one exception which is the Canis Rex/Preceptor loadout, that one is Imperial only.Then the Armiger kit builds 2 kinds of loyalist armigers and 2 kinds of loyalist war dog.So basically they share all their kits, but on top of that CKs get the War Dog kit (which is one of the best kits GW has ever put out, the amount of bits in those sprues) and their bespoke Knight which builds the Desecrator, Despoiler and Abominant. If anything it's IK which should get some loyalist only Knights.This is only taking into account plastic releases. All the FW stuff is for both sides as well IIRC.
>>94674615DAoT humans had them (the Esperanza ark mechanicus had a fuck off cannon that shot them), I'm sure necrons have them, deldar are highly probable.
>>94674665>So basically they share all their kitsShared kits aren't kits of their own and don't count.
>>94674665Don't forget about the 30k plastic knights.How are they anyways? They seem pretty cool to build
Have yourdudes ever crossed over into another setting?
I have always been slow at painting and picking up Orks has only made it worse. They're so fun to paint but man I'm spending 4-6 hours painting a guy that will die to a stray bolter shot.
>>94674679Maybie you can tape a blade of grass to the unimportant ones
>>94674673I got the one with flamer and chainblade. It's pretty neat. I want to get that big bulky mechanicus one with all of the missiles.
>>94674678>Have yourdudes ever crossed over into another setting?Good question. Are 40k Blue Scribes the same as AoS Blue Scribes?
>>94674672In this case I'd consider them because you get so many bits and bobs with the heretic ones you have more than enough left over to pimp your "loyalist" knights to look proppa chaotic. >>94674673I've heard good things about them (especially the chaingun one, you can pose the ammo belt which is very cool) but not releasing all of them as a single kit that contains all variations considering everything is pretty much the same except the arms is peak GW. AFAIK they bring chaos bits and transfers too so those are a proper joint release for both.
>>94674661It changes from moment to moment, sometimes it seems like there's an actual argument behind the scenes and one writer tries to push his headcanon.Leaving aside the absurdity of retconning all other undivided princes, or tiers of undividedness (the super special version of being undivided used to be the mark of chaos ascendant once), lorgar and perturabo might get resolved respectively if the former reached a form of demonhood by becoming the willing host for a multitude of demons of all the gods, while the latter could have reached pseudo demonhood by becoming a uber obliterator (or he could get uplifted by vashtorr in an transactory way)Both cases aren't technically princes of chaos undivided and each would fit the theme of their respective legion.
>>94674631>Is there anything Necrons can't do?ChemotherapyBasic biologyRejuvenation trestmentsEnter the warpPsychic powersWake up and get to work on time even with three alarms set
>>94674606>>Thread Question:>What's the formula for the best gaming table?Jungle mat4 big and tall L shaped ruins representing one large broken building in the middle, ideally with the crashed aquila lander scatter terrain inside to show what broke the building the wings of the table are covered by junglesdiagonal deployment
>>94674631>Goddamnit, is there anything Necrons cannot do?tan
>>94674703>one writer tries to push his headcanonThis is obviously the case. There's lots of big and small contradictions between codexes, campaign books and BL novels, and you can read between the lines and note how it's all about each writer trying to impose their own version of the fluff.It's not even a BL vs. game books like lorelets and fake grogs believe. Game campaign books contradict each other too.The most obvious example is Necromunda, which is full of lore breaking shit that would put any other planet in the shit list of all the major Imperium powers. The Mechanicum should have razed the planet to the core at the first hint of non-sanctioned STC patterns. Or the Imperial Fists doing a purge in their recruiting world upon noticing so many mutants and unsactioned psykers.
>>94674743>Is there anything Necrons can't do?>Enter the warp>Psychic powersMy understanding is that these are good things in 40k.
>>94674631They can't have fat asses and big titties
>>94674684Yes, all demons are the same
>>94674781Sure they can.They're just bolt ons
>>94674743Make anything with SOVL.
>>94674615A sizable black hole is solar system wrecking shit that would make Exterminatus seem a firecracker by comparation.
>>94674781>They can't have fat assesHeavy destroyer epsilon zero m-a'mha proves you wrong.
>>94674631Find the meaning of life, or say please when asking for something.
>>94674615
What was the estimated size of Commorragh?
>>94674812Vect is such a mary sue
>>94674615Depending on the size of the black hole, it wouldn't do much on a planet. A small one would pass through a planet as if nothing was there and continue its path out of the system like nothing. If it is massive enough, and slow enough, it would disrupt the planetary orbits, or send attract tons of asteroids and space debris. If it hits the star, it may destabilize the star and make it go supernova.
>>94674819Is he really, though?
>>94674638War dogs only sell better because GW adamantly refuse to make big knights good for chaos for at least two editions in a row now.
>>94674841It's kind of a bad thing if big nights become good though for the same reason it would be bad if Titans were playable. It's not fun for anyone when all of your army's power is tied up in one big unit.
>>94674822A proton-sized one would radiate Hawking radiation like crazy, potentially capable of powering an entire planet all on its own. The smaller the black hole, the more radiation, and this radiation could drive a starship or give energy to an entire planet. The sweet spot is a black hole of around 600 billion kilograms or two Empire State buildings, which would be roughly the size of a single proton. Such a black hole would radiate nearly 160 petawatts, which is roughly the equivalent of 10,000 times the world power consumption. And it would evaporate in around 3 and 1/2 years. Any smaller and it evaporates too quickly. Larger and it radiates too weakly and becomes too massive to feasibly accelerate the ship and the black hole. Assuming we can catch most of the radiation, this amount of power accelerates us to .1C in 20 days and presumably to a significant fraction of the speed of light in the lifespan of the black hole. The only drawback is that to create one you would need lasers concentrating enough energy at a single attometer. The lasers creating the black hole would need to be vastly more powerful than even the black hole they created, which implies you need titanic laser powered by partial Dyson spheres about 10% of the total solar output. If you can feed them normal matter, you could run an entire Kardashev Scale Type 3 civilization in a single system doing this for many times the current age of the universe.
>>94674816Not great. Not terrible.
>>94674767>There's lots of big and small contradictions between codexes, campaign books and BL novels, and you can read between the lines and note how it's all about each writer trying to impose their own version of the fluff.>It's not even a BL vs. game books like lorelets and fake grogs believe. Game campaign books contradict each other too.I wish they'd lean harder into having most lore be in universe materials, it can be lazy but its a good way to explain contradictions
>>94674849Well maybe they should have thought about that before making a codex about knight titans.Or written rules that makes fighting titans fun, like rules for targeting and damaging different parts of a titan for different effects.
>>94674849Not really, imperial knights are fine with their big knights being playable and still have their armigers good both in faction and as allies, there's no reason why chaos knights should have over half their roster be bad, especially when they just got a detachment that made it possible to take infantry alongside their knights, it's not as if chaos knights are 1k per big knight.
>>94674861I know it is the wrong game scale but imagine Knights with 2nd edition vehicle armour system.
>>94674888how is it the wrong game scale? we're not talking about giving back armour values and damage tables to anything the size of a sentinel up, just the fucking lords of war.
>>94674816Very big and also very small
>>94674816Sub sector sized
>>94674816Non-euclidean
>>94674816The size of one solar system, but urbanised, sounds good enough to me
>>94674907imagine getting stuck in traffic
Do Emp Kids have their own bespoke Termies?
>>94674918they did, but they were just reskinned normal terminators and didnt have any unique gimmick about them like blightlords or scarab occults
>>94674914The bad news is that you're sufferingThe good news is that everyone around you is also suffering.Ideally, everyone drinks their fair share of shadenfreude from each other and the long grinding commute proceeds in a slow, but net zero fashion.
>>94674918Not anymore.
>>94674922?>>94674918They used glaives and had cool helmets
>>94674922>>94674931Forgot image fug
is this true anons? is manjaw fem custodes dead?also my brother got me the mortarion model for xmas, i still dont think im good enough to paint it yet.
>>94674956i will personally always consider femstodes canon because there's literally zero reason it doesnt work
>>94674956You tried this bait last thread, the answer is still no and that you're just retarded. Have fun with your mortgage though
>>94674956>that image>40k not being treated as satireOh thank goodness. Is there reliable confirmation of this? I want to celebrate with a nice drink.
>>94674961take ur meds, i literally just saw this.
>>94674606C2H6O
you're telling me the guy named Angron whose gimmick is being really angry all the time isn't supposed to be even a little satirical? How about "Ferrus Manus" of the Iron Hands, who have... iron hands. Not even a little?
Thanks to the anon who mentioned Wargames Atlantic's The Damned I splurged on their gamefound. Anyhow after using newrecruit I realized that a tech priest enginseer might be nice for my guard army. The Stationforge proxy fits better in the Damned's post apocalyptic aesthetic, but I feel that the Wargameexclusive dark techpriest might be more fitting in the heretek theme in general. I'm not sure of which one to use for the army.
>>94674960Because it breaks Terran nobility you fucking retard.Custodes are made from Terran nobility babies that are not tainted. As the techniques are not understood, unlike the emperor who made every custodes by hand and tailor made, current custodes production is lottery as to what subjects accept the mutations.So, with a 1 in 1000 success rate, you lose a ton of untainted babies (which you don't have many of) and if you also do that with females you are certainly destroying the possibilities of continuing to have both noble Terran houses and subjects to turn into custodes in the future.And this has been an eternal truth for all of human history, you can waste male lives and still have a future, but waste the females and you are fucked in a very short time
>>94674974Satire implies there was a deeper meaning behind it, being lazy about giving names is not inherently satirical. Some people use that word as a blanket term for anything fictional but that is not accurate.
>>94674974What is it satirising?
>>94674987terra has a population in the quadrillions. i genuinely dont give a shit about your funny odds. make the math work, not the other way around.
>>94674956I have my doubts
>>94674974I don't think you understand what a satire is.
>>9467498940k satirizes common sci-fi tropes and the genre in general. Part of that is not taking itself overly seriously, which is an effect that silly names like Angron contribute to
>>94674996>no reason why it doesn't work>make the math workThese two statements cannot possibly come together.
>>94675001Actually I don't think you do and I'm beginning to understand why retards don't think 40k is satirical. You're the nerds they poke fun at
>>94674996>Retard can't think in the long term.I'm feel sorry for you.>QuadrillionsHow many untainted? How many will keep being untainted even if nobles? How much lower that number will go if you keep killing females on top of males?
>>94674960The reason it doesn't work now is the same reason why it never worked before.
>>94674978Makers cult is pretty good as well
>>94675009I'm not saying there's no satire at all at any point of 40k, I'm saying that a guy having a dumb or ironic name isn't satire by itself.Making fun of nerds isn't satire either, by the way.
>inb4 thread melts down with two people posting dictionary screencaps and calling each other retards
>>94675022fuck off.
0.01% of Terra's lower-bound population estimate of one quadrillion is still ten trillion. A thousandth of that is still ten billion. These numbers are so stupidly fucking large it's not even funny. There are more suitable candidates for Custodianship than the the Tower of Hegemon even has the ability to spend resources on.
>>94675020Fuck off randy
>>94675019I completely forgot about makerscult. I'll have a look over at their catalogue. Thank you, anon!
>>94675020frig off rand
>>94675031Terra's nobility doesn't reach the billions regardless of how many people there are on terra.
>>94675035No worries anon, it’s definitely on the less warp touched side of darkmech
>>94675022>I'm not wrong>ur wrong>actually the arguement was dumb in the first place>anything as long as I'm not wrong
>>94674987>>94674996>>94675007>>94675010>>94675011>>94675031*handwaves your point*They're rarer than Male custodians. How rare? As rare as they need to be to function and make the minimum number needed to function. I feel like Custodians, if any entity in the setting, are beyond capable of making their own numbers from a girl if they need to.
>>94675051That makes their representation uneven and even gender representation was the one and only reason for their retcon.
>>94675031Custodians need to be born untaintedHow many of these nobles are untainted themselves?How many are able to reproduce?How many can produce an untainted offspring?How many of those babies remain untainted long enough to get selected for custodian surgery?How many of those manage to survive the surgeries?How many can survive the training?I don't care you have a "potential" population in the billions, the amount of actual suitable candidates is astronomically low and the death rate is stupid high
>but muh 'perium has a gorillion people on each planet, of course you can have just as many female soldiersHow to make a population collapse in one easy step
>>94675049Didn't really find anything under the dark techno line, but I did find some enginseer proxies from MC anyways. They're pretty low poly so I might be able to fit a chaos star PNG converted into a 3D object onto the circular symbols they use if I can resize it properly.Basically I do this but with a symmetrical chaos star image:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-J_-3JLXpEThanks anon!
All this talk of female Custodes is cool and all but I do not, did not, and will never accept female Custodes on the simple fact that they're cringe.
>>94675068nobody said this, man.even in the us military (most publicly available statistics) has women making up about a 6th of its numbers, and of that number, around about a 100th actually serve in a combat-adjacent capacity
>>94675068The only imperial sub faction that could get away with it is Krieg with the cloning chambers and breeding program.But why would they do that when producing men make for better soldiers?
>>94675075People say this all the time on here once someone questions the logic of having female soldiers in the imperium
>>94675073thisthere needs to be more attention on null maidens instead
Do you think techpriests have romantic relationships?
>>94675086No
>>94675086>>94675087Yes.
>>94674960>male custodian and female sos>two halves make one complete>man and woman>adam and eve>he doesn't care about any of this
>>94675083I'm not sure how I would feel if pariahs came back...Anyways, gimme a KT with super elite lichguard with a ton of weapon options
>>94675089what was the reasoning behind only women being considered for SoS duties
>>94675091>sisters of silenceWomen should be seen not heard, simple as
>>94675091it looks cool and there was request for an all female order to counterpart the all male order
>>94675090>Anyways, gimme a KT with super elite lichguard with a ton of weapon optionsWould be cool. I was pretty disappointed with the Necron KT they released last. The Necrons and minor xenos factions need some more attention in KT. I'm hoping one day for some Hrud, Slaugth or Rak'gol.
>>94675091male blanks are turned into culexus assassins
>>94675109that's not the reason, or there would be as many culexus assassins as there are sisters of silenceand some culexus assassins are women too, so it's not a matter of sorting
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>94675116it is the reason, male blanks are much lower in population compared to female blanks
Has any species besides humans ever had naturally occuring blanks?
>>94675123Nope
>>94675004Satire requires intent, just being goofy and bad at naming things doesn't mean that they sat down and intended to satirize common sci-fi tropes. You can't accidentally satirize something, though a lot of people probably try to say after the fact that their bad works were satire all along.
>>94675119You and the three other dark eldar players globally will get nothing and you'll like it.
>>94674960>i will personally always consider femstodes canon because there's literally zero reason it doesnt workI just dont care much about custodes
>>94675086yeahprobably weird about it though
>>94674922They only got those once they got 40K new models though. Otherwise they looked the same as the others did.
Do you think the custodes sales numbers dropped or increased after the femstodes thing?
>>94675145people play custodians?
>>94675090>I'm not sure how I would feel if pariahs came back...They probably wouldn't come back with their original lore, because the ctan aren't in charge and it makes little sense to make biotransferred humans a hyper elite version of the necrons.So they would either be not hyper elite, but an inferior caste of necrons than normal warriors, or they wouldn't be humans, perhaps elite necrons "wearing" a psychic null as a form of equipment, or the only thing in common with the original pariah would be having anti psychic effects and they would achieve that by other means such as blackstone tools and armor.Or there should be subfactions of necrons where the ctan shards manage to wrestle back control and pariah would be a unit exclusive to them.
>>94675086It's probably only for the lesser augmented, I'm pretty sure in one of the Cain books it was implied he had a thing with a female tech adept before his relationship with Amberly.
>>94675146I was about to start but changed my mind after the drama
>>94675121that only shifts the question to why male blanks are rarer
>>94675145Personal anecdote: the only dude that collected them in my club (he's a massive GW whale) has never placed an order for anything custodes related in the group chat since the codex release
>>94675150no you weren't
>>94675145Nah, the majority of 'stodies players are HHfags who ignore 40k nulore.
>>94675123Blanks aren't naturally occurring in humans either, the ctan engineered the pariah gene in them for their ends.>that plotline has been retconnednot enough apparently or we would have answers as to why other races don't have this shit
>>94675145I just bought two kits of Bikes. I am completely and utterly indifferent to femstodes. All of my banana bois wear helmets.
>>94674960Whatever the tecnobabble, it's forced DEI bullshit that breaks the 20 year old Custodes themes as space eunuch Alexander's Companions, and their duality with the Sisters of Silence as antiquity versions of the medieval 40k Astartes/Sororitas monks/nunsIt's a misguided product of 2010s cultural wars and shallow ignorant fans that see Custodes as golden muscle heroes instead of the low key meat robots lost without their master they actually are. Like marines, they're NOT the next step in humanity and never have been. You are supposed to look at them and eventually notice their inhumanity and wrongness, and part of it is they been gender segregated. That's why SoS/SoB keep their humanity unlike the transhumans.
>>94675145They either dropped or remained unchanged, for sure they haven't increased.
>>94675145Samefag less lementersanon.
>>94675153I was. I was gonna do a small 500 pts army with rusty armor with that dirty down paint. Picked up some marines instead.
>>94675083>necron pariahs vs. Sister of Silence KTkino, I wish this was a real product
>>94675164Not lamenttranny but I've had a handle on here before
>>94675167lying won't get you anywhere
>>94675175Why are you like this?
>>94674615Yes Welt. The Dark Eldar can.
>>94675176He's got the schizo worm chewing on the inner walls of his skull.
>>94675145I bought some third party not!Thunder Warrior models that are meant to be Custodes proxies.Does that count?
>>94675091>what was the reasoning behind only women being considered for SoS dutiesin the Emperor's plans, neither Custodes (lack of free will) or SoS (no souls in the warp) can be the actual next step in humanity and the long term problem of dealing with Chaos. MMaking them gender segregated drives the point home as the dead ends they are, and reinforces the historic themes of religious/martial orders being traditionally male/female-only.But ADB's muscle-mommy fetish ("I want my own Serena Williams") seem to have won in the end since he's in charge
Which primarch do you NOT want coming back?
>>94675198Sanguinius, Horus, Ferrus Manus and Russ.I want Kurze
>>94674812People love to say the deldar are super sneaky tricksters and their tricks are just "sent a dude a bomb" or "weren't where they said they would be".
>>94675168But why?Anti psyker Vs anti psyker sounds weird as a combo.They need another pairing
>>94675207>*Steals ur sun during a Chaos invasion*Teehee
>>94675196>ADBHow can one man write so much shit and fail upwards? The emperors gift was a travesty, the black legion stuff pure wattspad fanfiction and the HH stuff is some of the worst slop I've read.
>>94675198Alpharius/OmeGONE
>>94675198All of them. They should have remained ancient historic figures from a long gone age. But obviously that's not the case since we have fucking 6 around now in 40K with more on the way no doubt so I'll just say all the dead ones. Curze, Ferrus Manus, Sanguinius, Horus, and Alpharius should all stay gone. You can argue whether or not Alpharius actually died or whatever but supposedly he did. They could just retcon that but bringing Alpharius back just seems dumb and pointless since he'd be better off not revealing himself at all and the Alpha Legion's lore is so steeped in retarded bullshit that I'd rather they not touch it anyway. If they start bringing dead Primarchs back I'm out.
>>94675213>bitch eating crackers He's still a twat, sure but all these books are decent and were very sucessful (by 40k standards, of course).
>>94675196>I want my own Serena WilliamsDid he actually say that? I've said some cringey shit on my social media history in my 20s, but this might make them look mild.
Does anyone ITT happen to have both a 100mm base (with or without a model) AND an Imperial Guard Sentinel? I would like to see them next to each other, if possible
>>94675225He sure did
I liked early Dan Abnett(he's gone insane now) and Josh Reynolds books. The rest I've read were kinda bad.
>>94675225>Did he actually say that?Yes: https://x.com/adembskibowden/status/1018414464759226369As you can imagine, it became a big source of shitposting here.
>>94675237When did Abnett lose the plot?He's always made shit up and had his Mary Sues, but it's much worse now
>>94675242Hard to say exactly when but I liked his early HH slop. Horus rising is still one of my favorites.
>>94675242>>94675247i really enjoy abnettslop and wouldnt mind if he just completely took over all of bl single-handedly
>>94675242I think he wanted to connect his HH plots with his Inquisition novels, and GW shut it down too late.Hence why the Perpetuals bullshit ends up in a nothingburguer
>>94675242>>94675237What did Dan Abnett do? He's always been considered one of the best BL authors in the past. Did he write some dumb shit or say something on twatter?
>>94675119Wonder if Karandras will come with them
>>94675241This is like something I would type when I was 14, 10 years ago trying to make myself look like a good person.I now know what second hand embarrassment feels like.
>>94675254He fucked up the final book of the HH, The End And The Dead, with a fuckton of filler and very questionable decisions for every thing he did okay. It has left a sour taste even in dedicated lorefags like me.
>>94675219Only Horus died though
>>94675254He has gone pretty liberal on twitter and his last few books have been pretty progressive if you know what I mean, wink wink nudge nudge
>>94675265Yeah yeah because his soul was obliterated and the others are still somewhere out there in the Warp or whatever. Bringing them back would be cringe. They're gone. Their story is over. I'm sure GW isn't above some stupid asspull to get them into 40K if they really wanted to but I don't think we'll see that any time soon when there are other options.
>gulliman and the other loyalists space dads need to die and their souls need to power the star child for big E to return.>Then he resurrects them as marketable minis/plushies in age of the emperor Trust me my dad works at blacked library.
>>94675276Stfu don't give them ideas
>>94675198sanguinius, his death was extremely impfactful, Horus.I think Ferrus coming back as the leader of the legion of the damned would be ok, because he is criminally underused.
>>94675213>How can one man write so much shit and fail upwards?Because unironically, he knows audience and how to please it.
>>94675198Ideally we stop at the 4 demon primarchs of the 4 cult legions and 4 loyalist primarchs of the 4 important chapters.Maximum stretch beyond that is adding perturabo for an iron warriors/darkmek expansion, and dreadnought dorn to lead the black templars range.
>>94675259Karandras is already here.His stealthy model is just THAT good.
>>94675284>Ferrus coming back as the leader of the legion of the damnedThis is stupid and always has been. It's the product of fans misreading an scene in a ABD book and not knowing the lore behind the Legion of the Damned (which didn't appear until M41)
>>94675213He blackmailed or abused HR to get people on his career's path off the way, some of those instances are documented too.
>>94675286he failed with TEATD>>94675287All the alive traitor Primarchs should get models, as they're canonically still around and active since the 13th Black Crusade.The loyalist primarchs should stay lost or dead to reinforce the hopelessness of the Imperium
>>94675290im aware, the writer did say he wish he thought of that tho because its a cool idea.honestly i just think the legion of the damned as a concept are fucking badass. > A mysterious legion that shows up in dire times to cause death and then disappears just as quickly.
>>94675290I like Olden Demon's interpretation of the Legion of the Damned, using stuff from old 2nd edition era white dwarf to make his conclusions.
>>94675298yep i would be fine with this, tho i think GW will atleast bring back one more loyalist primarch to make it a trio.my money is on Dorn or Leman Russ
Honestly I think the main issue wth ADB is that he is a huge chaos fanboy yet they let him write loyalist stories.
>>94675302Russ is a given already.
I still don't understand how Orks's deities work, how do they manage to make their technology work?
>>94675314waagh
Alright lads I think I have one more project in me before years end.Scouts or bikers?
>>94675314ork belief acts like duct tape and makes stuff work (somewhat) more reliably than it should given its haphazard construction
>>94675302dorn, russ, jaghatai khan, vulkan, and the raven guard primarch i am literally incapable of remembering the name of have no reason not to be re-introduced into the setting
>>94675317bikers
>>94675313Space Wolves refresh for 12th Edition?
>>94675196Lamentersanon, you gotta let it go, you’ve been making this post for six years straight. Seek help.
>>94675324Take you meds fren
>>94675207But they're not especially sneaky. They use terror tactics. They want you to know they are coming.
>>94674615Seems like everyone but Tau and Nids
>>94675276Because that plan is working out so well for the Eldar right nowBoth have the same problem: one of the pieces is already lost to Slaanesh
>>94674956They literally have a canon female custodes in the animationsIt takes at least a year to make one of thoseShits been planned for a long time
Had a dream last night I clapped blue cheeks, what does this mean
Is Combat Patrol an okay way to play the game, or is it so far removed from greater 40k as to be considered its own thing?
>>94675292Post proof.
>>94675198All of them
>>94675345You have an Asari/Draenei/Twi'lek fetish
>>94675361twi'lek are green
>>94675306Yep.He should be in his own little chaos bubble and never be let out of it.The NL omnibus was quite fun
>>94675351It's similar enough to learn the ropes but lacks tactical depth and balance and you will want to grow beyond it eventually. But it is a decent stepping stone into the full game. Most people would rather just play a 500-1000pt game of the full rules as soon as you are able to, though.
>>94675361>DraeneiDo you think Eldar and Draenei would get along? What with the "Refugees from an advanced race that collapsed due to the machinations of daemons" thing going on for each?
>>94675306This seems to be a problem with a lot of BL writers who don't actually like the faction that they write for.
>>94674648Im not ruling out Rogal Dorn myself since he had that kerfuffle with Fulgrim so maybe they're setting that up, then again Guilliman and Mortarion or Lion and Angron never had any rivalry during the heresy
>>94675328This is hundreds of posts spanning many years and it’s just the Serena stuff, not the rest. It’s a real problem. https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/Serena%20Williams/
>>94675351It’s considered “unbalanced”, the explanation I’ve seen is that some of the boxes have vehicles and not too many of the boxes have answers to vehicles. Newer boxes have been infantry focussed, but not all infantry is built the same. However, it is a simplified version of regular 40K, so if you have someone willing to play it with you, it can be a good in-between step to get into 40K proper regardless.
>>94675371>>94675381I'm asking because my gaming group has run into an issue where our resident Necron player absolutely fucking shits on all of us because he can get 6 shots of heavy + lethal hits bs3+ S14 AP4 dam 6 shooting for 330 points and we feel like we cant do anything about it
>>94675377im going at this from a purely financial viewpoint on what will sell GW more models. thats why i think it will be dorn or russ.black templars / space wolves are extremely popular and hopefully fists will get a refresh at some point.
>>94675351for new players i would recommend just starting with 750-1000pt games. its not that many more models than a combat patrol and its a much better facsimile of what regular warhammer is like, and also doesnt force you into weird atypical weapon loadouts like you might see in the combat patrols of some chaos legionaries or genestealer cults hybridsthe combat patrols also arent all that great of a deal anymore for the most part, which is sad to say. if you want to save money, secondhand sites like trolltrader or miniswap reddit/facebook groups are a better bet, or army battleforce boxes if you can find them for a reasonable price. the combat patrols may still be okay to get once, but they usually come with filler units you dont want multiples of like junk characters
>>94675322Alright, keep an eye out for 3 BA bikers with goblin green bases in the coming days.
>>94675323this edition
>>94675397dorn could be sold to two different armies players at once, imperial fists and BT, so that would be the smarter move in my opinion, but russ is a cooler character than dorn, dorn is boring as fuck
>>94675397yep. There's even a primaris era book called The Wolftime about how Russ is NOT going to return yet and the SW need to cope with it, but that's certainly changed now.I only hope GW at least tries making 40k loyalist primarchs distinct from their 30k versions, like they did with the Lion
>>94675408>two different armies playersimperial fists players are effectively nonexistent
Are you excited for the Space Wolves release?
>>94675414no
>>94675414It’s gonna be a minute.
>>94675409>make 40k space dads different from 30k>russ is now a fat man with a long white beard riding a sleigh pulled by wulfenMake it happen James
>>94675408dorn is weaponised boring autism, literally too autistic for khorne to corrupt him.
>>94675377They have it very easy with Dorn, he got sucked in a warp portal that left only his hand. But he is so stubborn that he was spitted again into reality.See, I'm GW level writer, please hire me. I mean, it is impossible to destroy more W40K fluff, right?
>>94675414im not fully in the loop on whats coming next other than that space wolves are getting a refresh.any news on what the next xenos stuff will be? Dark eldar? Tau?
>>94675431>I mean, it is impossible to destroy more W40K fluff, rightWe accept your challenge. Please look forward to our new line of Warhammer Romance novels coming in 2025.
>>94675437>warhammer romanceI would actually read that
>>94675431> every returning loyalist primarch has gotten one of the emperor's weapons> Dorn will get the emperor's lightning claw to replace his missing hand
If combat patrol is so unbalanced then what are the "broken" ones that are so oppressive nothing else can beat them?
>>9467543eldar have a big announced wave coming early next year.The only other Xenos without a codex yet in this edition are Dark Eldar and Leagues of Votann and both are probably just getting a pity character.
>>94675443>Dorn will get the emperor's lightning claw to replace his missing handIt's even the correct hand...
>>94675364Twi'lek are any color you want
>>94675441Don't worry anon, Gav Thorpe's already got three titles lined up for it.>My Darkest Angel>Booty Kâhl>The Tragedy of Farseer Jomeo and Archon Ruliet
>>94675446My guess would be that old Dark Angels one with the Dreadnought, the Chaplain, and the Inceptors
>>94675446The old CSM one with the Helbrute and Havocs is pretty strong
>>94675450Meant to reply to>>94675436Not sure how I fucked that up
>>94675446Impossible to say because all the units have different datasheet rules in Combat Patrol than they actually do in the full game. They're also required to be built with suboptimal loadouts for the game mode.
>>94675375eldar would likely look down on them
>>94675480Is it literally impossible for an Eldar character to act with any kind of humility?
>>94675490One did in the Wraithbone Phoenix. It didn't end well for her.
>>94675450Is there any situation ever where five Phoenix Lords would show up to fight a GSC infestation on an Imperial World?
>>94675490individuals maybe but as a whole its unlikely
>>94675501Preventive destruction of a genestealer cult to prevent tyranids from being in the path of the craftworld.
>>94675490Eldar have been written from an Imperial perspective for so long that what's meant to be the Eldar view of the Imperium has been applied to everything for Eldar. Rather than being sensible and diplomatic where possible they'll always be portrayed as retards hopped up on their own farts, because that's what Imperial fans have grown to expect from Eldar in general.
>>94675450Who planted all those bits of Eldar ruins around the hiveworld?
>>94675520The Eldar import them.
>>94675524pretty good edit
>>94675524Like how Space Wolves bring chapter serfs with them to scatter snow all over the place
I've never met a polite eldar or dark eldar player. They're always "um actually I'm an expert on everything so stfu"-kinda assholes. Just saying.
>>94675535You've never met an Aeldari or Drukhari player
>>94675534i really hope we get a warhammer game where you are playing as a chapter other than ultra smurfs.i dont know about you guys but i have blueberry fatigue at this point.
>>94675554How new are you? there are more 40k videogames featuring non-UM chapters (and other non SM factions ) than the opposite. Hell, the UM have only a few games and of those, only Space Marine 1 & 2 are well know.
Primaris is the best thing to happen to Warhammer
>>94675535This is not surprising because you've never been to a gaming store in the first place.
>>94675568Yeah, more like only SM II. SM I got a horde of fake fans who acktchyually liked it way back when, but it flopped like a wet fart when it was released and was forgotten
>>94675535I try to be nice whenever I play Eldar and explain a bit of what each unit does if my opponent hasn't played against them before.
>>94675375Eldars would despise them for stealing their whole design by way of Protoss.
Is there a greenstuff roller for quickly sculpting war bikini's for Eldar miniatures?
>>94675428I want to have the ability to torture a god with military history
>>94675535I play Eldar and I'm basically retarded
>>94675554Newest newfag thinks SM2 is the only warham game
>>94675603My theory on Dorn's disappearance is he got stuffed back into the blood jar after his capture and is still being tempted to this day
>>94674631Figure out their gender apparently.
>>94675554I remember playing this as a kidactually pretty cool, you start off as a squad member so you follow orders from the sgt, then as you progress through the campaign you get promoted and start giving the orders yourself
>>94675617After give or take ten thousand years do you think he's moved on from military history to architecture?
>>94675626which port is better?
>>94675581Shut up, SM1 had decent sales, even if it was nothing special.It was just "rediscovered" barely a few years later in 2017 when DoW flopped and primaris were released. Since then it had a lot of Steam sales that made it more popular than at release. That's the reason they made SM2.
>>94675450no, I'm sure votann are getting a second wave of models.the dark eldar release might see the rumoured eldar corsairs stuff and maybe grotesques on top of the pity hero (rakart)
>>94675636no idea, I played it on a PC when it first came out
>>94675443No, dorn gets the bolter, russ gets the claw.
>>94675679who gets the wreath?
How important is brass colored paint for painting heavy intercessors? Do I NEED it for like the bolt casings or whatever?
>>94675688gonna say sanguinius
What color would you paint that brass bit if you didn't want to pay another $20 for 3 more paints? Or does it HAVE to be brass?
>>94675638>It was just "rediscovered" barely a few years later in 2017 when DoW flopped and primaris were releasedAnd so we got a sequel... with primaris.
>>94675703Yes...because the success of primaris made people interested again in marines. You don't have to like it, but it's what it is.
>>94675702whatever gold paint you have with nuln oil instead of agrax
I'm an eldar player, and I am half debating on starting a sisters army. I don't like fate dice and am glad they're being gotten rid of, I play pretty casually and don't really use them for the most part because they feel like bullshit. Are miracle dice with sisters similar? Do the armies play similar in general, since they're both T3 and wanna get relatively close to the enemy to do damage?
>>94675702have you got a gold paint? just mix some red and brown into it.alternatively can you wash your silver with sepia + agrax mixed together ( two coats), or a yellow-brown contrast?
Am I supposed to thin my metallics?
whos getting the next CSM upgrade kit?
>>94675702your other metallic
>>94675741alpha legion
>>94675702you can mix silver with a yellow-brown.it wont look good, as its either too silver. or the right shade of brass but doesn't read at metallic. but its better than nothing.
>>94675702Steel casings exist.
>>94675749>>94675746>>94675742>>94675732Good ideas but I already have reikland fleshshade so I guess I'll just go back for the screaming bell and golden gryphon. Thanks anyway anons.
Guys, I discovered something odd.The lore says that the T'au invaded and conquered a planet called Omis-Prion. They are currently fighting Necrons over it.The problem is...it's located in the Vigilus system in the Nachmund Gauntlet.
>>94675741brain says Alpha Legion, heart says Red Corsairs.a daemon-parrot on the sergeants should be kino
What is more likely for World Eaters to get:>a World Eater's Terminator Upgrade Sprue for the Chaos Space Marines Terminator Squador>a dedicated Red Butchers kit
Wait I have agrax earthshade too. Do I get the balthasar gold set or the screaming bell set for stuff like brass casings?
>>94675758holy fucking please dont buy golden griffon. metallic drybrush paints are retarded.just buy retributor gold or something
>>94675759Moreover, recently, Imperials discovered a T'au agent and a bunch of T'au allied races operating in an asteroid field within the Nachmund Gauntlet.https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Stones_of_CavadiHow did the T'au get there? Look at the distance between the Fifth Sphere Expansion and the Vigilus/Nachmund Gauntlet.Did GW screw up or what's happening?
>>94675702I just mix some gold with my red.>>94675738Vallejo or citadel?
>>94675767just buy retributor gold, and balthasar gold.ones proper gold, ones proper bronze. then you can change them with whatever you wash them with.
>>94675778Citadel
Twitter and Reddit are on fire atm because people are saying that female Custodes were retconned.Is this true?
I wish I lived a life where female custodes was my biggest concern.I'm far more concerned about how even more dumbed down and shrimplified 11e is going to be.
>>94675738only a very tiny amount compared to normal thinning.
>>94674615I think even space marines could take vortex grenades back in the day
>>94675759and? tau in the nachmund gauntlet is nothing new? I don't remember how they got there, but feel free to pick one of the following>scattered part of the 4th sphere expansion fleet>water caste and kill teams smuggled via kroot void spheres>used one of their other client races' warp capable ships >the skim-drives work wonders as long as they stay along the cixatrix
>>94674956That guy is just a moron and so are you. That guy is the same moron who believed "Angry Cavill leak" that came from this cesspit of a board. It's called confirmation bias and that idiot is drenched in it.
>>94675789I don't see anything on Reddit.
>>94675789Not that I know of, but I never counted them as canon to begin with.Have you tried staying on twitter to know more instead of asking 4chan about what twitter is saying and why?
>>94674615apparently Nova Cannons do it, which im surprised to learn.https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Nova_Cannon
>>9467579211e isn't going to be another index edition so soon so expect the rules to be largely compatible with 10e Codexes with, like, a Psychic and a Battleshock rework or something and maybe a change to core strategems to make them more like AoS.
>>94675789>Twitter and Reddit are on fire atm because people are saying that female Custodes were retconned.prove it
>>94675799It raises a lot of questions since the lore says it was a Fifth Sphere Expansion force so we can dismiss it as being an element of the Fourth Sphere that was scattered by the Warp.How and why did the T'au evade the warring Black Legion and Imperial fleets to settle on a random planet in one of the most contested warzones in the galaxy?
>>94675769>>94675782I put my faith in the chart. I even just made a pinterest to obtain this image. Actually seems like there's some pretty interesting posts on their desu. I guess I want the balthasar gold set because I did some research and it turns out brass is the same color as gold and gold will add yellow to my guys who already have red.
>>94675789No you moron. They had their own animation and they are not walking it back. This is just some idiot having confirmation bias over a book that probably took a long time to make.
>>94675822Check out WokehammerLs or any of the chud accounts.
>>94675789>because people are saying that female Custodes were retconned.Either masterful trolling which is fine or GW really done did it. I doubt GW would have retconned out the female custodes. But if they did then I'll need a sauce.>>94675792>I wish I lived a life where female custodes was my biggest concern.Same here. Generally too many people are nowadays too dependent on fictional media. I remember a doctor saying that there were a lot around the world that got hospitalized because of J.K. Rowling's tweets making the Harry Potter universe impossible for them to enjoy and so the hardships of life became too much to handle for them.I wonder if that happened to any Warhammer fans when female custodes were revealed.
>>94675828You mean the biggest idiots in the fandom who's biggest source of information is this cesspit and r/HorusGalaxy and who's only way of engaging with the hobby is to scream about transsexual people and people of color that have delusions of being some great majority? Those guys?
everyone wants animu faces on their SOB, but none of them actually use pic related at the base. its perfect.
>>94675831>But if they did then I'll need a sauce.The Ultimate 40K Guide says Custodes are Brotherhoods and uses hi/he pronouns.
>>94675828>Check out WokehammerLs or any of the chud accounts.no, give me screenshots
>>94675828Illiterates that doesnt understand that brotherhood has more meanings than "only males organization"
>>94675824>How and why did the T'au evade the warring Black Legion and Imperial fleets to settle on a random planet in one of the most contested warzones in the galaxy?Do you have the slightest idea of how big space is?
>>94675840PDF and page number, please?
>>94675814I just want it to be fun to build armies again. I don't mind preset squad sizes, hell I welcome those, but I fucking miss Wargear and just coming up with fun/fluffy lists.All my custom Tau wargear I bought and modeled custom got fucking annihilated with 10e.
>>94675745This is Slaanesh related. Probably with the new terminators or a hero.
>>94675828>Check out this account that scrounges for totally real twitter accounts with 3 likes and 5 views to get people angry.
>>94675145There's a transexual at my LGS that started a custodes army after the announcement
>>94675852>>94675842The News broke just today. It's gaining reactions and Youtube videos are being made.
>>94675771GW just tries to insert all factions possible in the same campaign book even if it doesn't make sense or it's lore breaking.For example, the HH Siege of Cthonia campaign book features the Space Wolves 13th company years after it canonically dissapeared at Prospero. But they want you to buy the new SW resin minis, so...
>>94675813>The warhead I escorted dozens of times in SM2 creates a fucking black hole at the point of impactAnd here I was thinking weapons like that were DAOT artifacts.
>>94675679Russ already got the spear, though. There's a whole prophecy about how he's gonna come back to take it up again. It'd make more sense for the claw to go to the only Primarch that used a power claw, Corax. Dorn has always been shown with a chainsword (eviscerator?) and bolter, as far as I'm aware, and they don't do much to deviate from that with their Primarch releases.
>>94675855no, it's not, slaanesh isn't getting terminators and no slaanesh hero is going to wield a polearm crafted in the likeness of alpharius's weapon
>>94675870Wow... 2 words. Moron.
>>94675792>dumbed down and shrimplifiedNothing can top the 2nd to 3rd ed downgrade, so you can relax
>>94675870This is supposed to be Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined?
>>94675882Giving such an iconic weapon on one of the inferior primarchs of the inferior chapters would be a huge waste.Russ is getting the talon.Besides he already had the spear, so it cannot count as a new acquisition.
>>94675828Those are all retarded or ragebait grifters, their opinions do not matter>>94675840The book was just written before ADB became head of narrative at GW and retconned it>>94675844That's exactly what brotherhood means, don't be a retard
>>94675846The Vigilus Defiant book says that Omis Prion is near to Vigilus and Chaos and Imperial fleets movements have been stated to have passed near it.So you tell me!
>>94675884They are so thirsty for a "victory" that they are grasping at straws
>>94675769Wait you guys are actually fat? I thought it was just a meme
my local international brotherhood of electrical workers has women in its membership
>>94675897>So you tell me!space is indeed very big.
Eldar butts...
>>94675893>That's exactly what brotherhood means, don't be a retardI don't think so....If you control-F a Stormcast battletome will see the term brotherhood being applied to them despite Stormcast being co-ed
>>94675905Impossible. They'd have to change the name then!
>>94675893>ADBnot canon
>>94675893Anon, you are the one that needs a dictionary
>>94675870As others have said, brotherhood doesn't literally mean an all male organization - that is just one of it's potential uses in English. I think this is likely an oversight rather than a retcon, people put way too much faith in GWs competence when it comes to things like proofreading. Really I think people are making too much out of this in both directions. Having the rare female in a normally all male organization is not really that crazy, it is like none of you watched Mulan with your kid when they were little lol.
>>94675870Does that guy have minis?
>>94675922I never got the anger to be honest. Custodes are super rare hyper personalized alchemical freaks of biochemical nature. Whats the big deal if a couple are women? Oh right, everything is fucking culture wars these days.
>>94675905>>94675913An IRL organization keeping its traditional name out of branding it's not the same as a 10000 years martial order that has never changed since it was created except for getting out more recently.>>94675910>Stormcast Nobody cares about AoS lore. It's handwavey high fantasy without weight or depth that makes 40k look like High Culture in comparison
>>94675926I think he has very non-political Trump Marine... or maybe it was Bohemond or other fucking idiot from that cavalcade of fuck ups
>>94675909Are flat and leathery because their race has zero body fat as reported by the Xenology.
>>94675922>it's like none of you watched mulan with your kid when they were littlemy 5 & 8 y/o gen alpha nephews are too brainrotten to consume anything except video games. they are literally not even capable of watching cartoons. the worst part is that they're better than some of their peers by a long shot. sure as fuck they're more polite than most of em
>>94675918literally the guy in charge of GW narrative today>>94675920>>94675922this is just gaslighting and vranyo. Just because IRL professional "brotherhoods" eventually opened their gates to women doesn't change the meaning of the word.
>>94675534There is no snow on Fenris
>>94675887For some people it is.Those kinds of people would call anyone who disagrees with them a Nazi which means that wanting fictional Warhammer 40k lore to not be ruined is somehow relatable to the crimes of the third reich.
>>94675945>cucked by autopostthank you hiroshimootfollowing onto this, i am actually worried about the state of tabletop games after being exposed to the newest generation of children. is this what boomers and silent generation experienced as we were coming of age? these fags aren't even patient enough to sit still and read rules for something as relatively simple as monopoly, something i would assume a majority of us did as kids, let alone something like 40k
>>94675951I guarantee you there will not be wailing and gnashing of teeth like there was when they announced female custodes existing because of the word Brotherhood being used once.
>>94675947You should check your hands anon. You are grasping at straws with so much force you are bleeding.
>>94675928>Whats the big deal if a couple are women?It's a retcon whose sole motivation is satisfying culture war bullshit and female custodes ruin the dichotomy with the sisters of silence.Even in the one story female custodes were shown through, they stole the spotlight of the sister of silence despite it being arguably her episode to begin with, and this stepping onto the role went far enough to make the attendants of the black ships (who interact with the sisters of silence on a regular basis) not know how to communicate with the sister of silence so that the custodian would be the one to do all of the interactions.It's unnecessary, hampering previous dynamics, blatantly political, and adds nothing to the model range since the models would otherwise look identical, but since the current kits don't have female heads, updates to the existing kits would mean stealing the possibility of a more deserving kit getting an update or expansion, and the female heads would come at the detriment of other options on the custodes sprue.There's literally nothing good out of this.
>>94675966says the guy trying to compare a fictional martial brotherhood based in historical equivalents with IRL so-called "brotherhoods" that are just guilds at best
>>94675962I know. Most of the "wailing and gnashing of teeth" was done by people voicing their disappointment at GW. Not to say that there wasn't. >because of the word Brotherhood being used onceThere was an open letter made to GW over one of the Horus Heresy books saying that only men can be space marines due to a vocal minority voicing their displeasure at the paragraph.I wouldn't be surprised if your words age poorly.
>>94675926Looks like it
>>94675889 Just because you prefer the furfag, that doesn't mean he needs to be the only one with two gifted weapons. Nobody else has gotten multiple weapons, and the book literally says what's going to happen. And if anyone's inferior, it's the guys who literally turn into mutant wolves, only time the Raven Guard came close to that is when they were screwed by the Alpha Legion, and all of the mutated raptors were killed after that. Hell, I'd even vote that it goes to the Kahn before I'd even consider Russ or Dorn.
>>94675962See >>94675978 the "wailing and gnashing" of teeth as you call it was justified. One thing I do remember was that a lot of /pol/tards came out of the woodwork to larp as the lefties they hate. That was what I found so odd.It might happen again over the usage of the word brotherhood.
>>94675979I only told you to check a dictionary, but I fianlly understood. You are American so you cant afford a visit to a medicGet well soon!
>>94675883i bet its that BL harrowmaster character, not alpharius or anything
>>94675978>It's a retcon whose sole motivation is satisfying culture war bullshitThis. The way they did it as a few pronouns changes in a codex and the WH+ episode without new models announcement clearly points at somebody pushing for it (ADB) instead of a real bussiness effort to reach new players or something.No real woman is going to collect and play Custodes over this. At best they will parrot a few empty platitudes over representation and forget about it.
>>94675978Why does there being a few female custodes ruin the SoS (who are woefully underdeveloped anyway)They're just 2 groups of freaks who work together.
>>94675999>Just because you prefer the furfagI don't, but he's getting a primarch model because he's got a range of marines and a separate codex since 2nd edition.Corvus, khan and vulkan, and their chapters, on the other hand literally do not matter.
Does temperature matter a lot when priming minis?
what if custodes can reproduce with each other
>>94676004you're full of shit and you know know it, fuck off
>>94676021Yes, too cold and you can get spotty/dusty priming.
>>94676021yes, if you even went to school you'd remember that there's a direct relationship between gas pressure and temperature, and spray cans are aerolized paint in a compressed gas can
>>94676027is that when it beads up very finely, and gives it this weird bumpy/sandpapery texture?
>>94676016Because they're presented as two sides of one balanced golden coin, the talons of the emperor, and the gender-exclusive natures of the sides are thematically appropriate in the same way yin and yang have gender connotations.
>>94676037One of the ways it can happen, yes.
>>94676044I really don't see how some of the custodians having vaginas ruins that. I don't see Custodes as some paragons of masculinity or something, they're just super custom NotMarines made by super alchemy.
>>94676058NTA. I recommend occasionally replacing "super" in your vocabulary with "turbo". It's funnier and less repetitive. Thanks
>>94675942That's a lie perpetuated by the Necrons.
>>94676068You do know that's just an empty suit of armor filled with nothing but souls and dust.Jain even says to an Archon that she cannot have sex or perform acts of carnal pleasure.
>>94675870>ON FIRE
Should I subassembly paint roboute?
>>94676058>I don't see Custodes as some paragons of masculinity or somethingThe silhouette and themes of marines and not!marines are inherently hypermasculine with huge shoulders, broad chests, heavy feet and square faces.You must be blind or have amputated your common sense to not recognise it.You cannot show me two sides of a coin embodying different traits, including a gender assignment, and then disregard the gender assignment and pretend shit's still neat and balanced.
>>94676078probably not necessary
>>94676078sub assembly is almost entirely unnecessary on game pieces. if you want to do art, then knock yourself out, but no one is going to see your twenty dozen minutes worth of layering and shading underneath some pauldron or behind a cape. but you shouldn't take painting advice from me because i fucking hate it
>>94675928That would've made much more sense, but they doubled down and said they were always there since the Emprah. Could've had them post Bobby G and Cawl as experiments instead as it would still be fluffy and they're not locked down by the way Spess Myhreens are made. But they didn't and made a tweet about it.
>>94676094That doesn't fix any of the real issues with it.
>>94676088I think you're just overthinking an aesthetic that carried from the 80s/90s when nerd hobbies were overwhelmingly focused on advertising to adolescent boys by being SUPER MASCULINE WITH HOT SIDE BABES.
>>94676094cawl and bobby g are far too removed from custards to even try to have them be plot points in that regard. the point is that female custodians are completely unimpactful in either direction. there's very little justification for them not to be there, which is why they did it. female space marines is retarded. female custodians dont matter and dont affect anything
why is the hellflayer the only slaanesh chariot that has the blades on the datasheet
>>94676109It opens up the question of why didn't the Emperor create female Primarchs and female members of the Space Marines when he allowed females in the Custodes.
>>94676103That really it was just fanning the flames and a giant "fuck you" to anyone who cares about the lore and to own the Chuds? Yes I know that.
>>94676058>I really don't see how some of the custodians having vaginas ruins that.It's clear that you've never read any books about custodes and you miss all the historical references they're linked to.They're a mix of Alexander's Companions, the Sacred Band of Thebes and more superficially, the 300. The inner circle is called the Hetaeron Guard, ffsNevermind that they're explicitly NOT a next step in humanity. That's why Fabious Bile's New Men actually did include women and were able to reproduce, but NONE of the Emperor's transhumans didIt's not something very deep or easy to miss, but you and the others like you are shallow and illiterate when you're just not shills
>>94676120is this an unanswerable question?
Nobody ever complains when Eldar gets canon trannies, but you suggest one Custodes might not have a twelve inch dick and everyone starts frothing at the mouth.
>>94676123>but NONE of the Emperor's transhumans didDoes Luthor count as a Space Marine? Because a female fellow Caliban Knight was given the same treatment/elevation as him.
>>94676137It's literally talked about by Malcador in the Horus Heresy novels at one point where he says that he warned the Emperor against making all his super soldiers men.
>>94676107No, I'm definitely not, regardless of where you want to think the origins stand the designs have a thematic purpose and this carried onto faction dynamics.Pretending that nothing has meaning doesn't actually make the connotations not exist, or not cause distaste when you work against them.Especially when you're doing so only for some bullshit culture war.
>>94676138Their brains are moldy with culture war brainrot, they can't help it.They NEED youtubers to tell them what to get angry about next.
>>94676137no, it's the desired outcome. To justify also future retcons and female marines and primarchs and paint anyone who disagrees as evil chuds or whatever
>>94676146i just don't understand how funny references inherently preclude women?
>>94676073>Jain even says to an Archon that she cannot have sex or perform acts of carnal pleasure.Depends on the writer.Hell even in that case it didn't stop the Archon from trying to rape her mentally.
How does warfare and trading work if the chaotic sea of souls is the main method for travel? Sure some paths are stable but outside of those? You can't plan and trade route or a coordinated attack with an ally if you don't know when you'll arrive. A critical victory or defeat can depend on an ally arriving at the same time as you do.I know the answer is probably "Badly".
>>94676022If they could, there'd be even less reason to send the women into combat.
>>94676138Elven bullshit is wishy washy nonsense.
>>94676153Not helping your cause when the banner carrier of your cause is a twitter account by the name "Wokehammer L's"
>>94676141fanfiction bullshit.What's next? that debunked 1980s non-GW magazine article with a female SM chapter to shill female marines?
>>94676159warp travel is only as dangerous as the plot requires. of course banal traderoutes are issueless. maybe a small warp incusion here or a tiny morsel of renegade marines there. nothing that the armsmen of whatever poor bastard vessel can't repel given enough time and ammo
>>94676138>eldar can pick any path to follow>one has a female majority>you're a tranny if you pick that onemon'keigh...
>>94676138>Nobody ever complains when Eldar gets canon trannies,There's a reason for that, namely >Dark Eldar are hedonistic fleshcrafters, a sex change to them would only be disgusting due to how tame it is compared to what Haemonculi can really do>Male Banshees already existed, and had proper explanation and implementation in the context of Eldar war culture tying into their mythology
>>94676185i wonder if dark eldar cinema is any good
>>94676155>i just don't understandYeah, that shows, "funny references" has nothing to do with anything we've talked about, but it's likely you're purposefully acting dumb or dumbing down what you want to talk about in dishonesty.So instead of making myself understandable to you I'll ask you something: why is it bad that custodes don't have women?
>>94676177show me the male banshee sculpts ;)
>>94676185I liked the Eldar in Rogue Trader that got turned into a living Chessboard including the pieces.
>>94676162I'm not in the side of those asshole grifters, but I'm also do not support the retarded DEI bullshit behind femstodes or MTG black Aragorn.There's just not two sides. There's a spectrum of moronic culture warriors, and just people like me that cares about the aesthetics and lore of things by themselves.
>>94676159>Sure some paths are stablemost arethe dangers of warp travel are greatly exaggerated in the same way all memes are greatly exaggerated
>>94676190It probably sucks, but their theater is probably incredible.
>>94676185You are omitting context. The text says nothing about fleshcrafting. It makes it seem like a natural morphing caused by social dynamics that overwrite biology.Banshees are included in this. Male Banshees eventually will transition to being females.
>>94676194here's one greenlit by gw
>>94676210>sculptI accept your concession
>>94676210That Tacticus?
>>94676018>the avenger hunting the warp for Lorgar ain't shit>the Master of Faster who's out fucking the Deldar ain't shit>the single lost deadly artificer in the Imperium ain't shit >the guy who got his ass kicked and went off soul-searching isYou're just overstating how little you actually know about the setting, and how your view of it is driven entirely by what merchandise you're able to purchase. The state of the 40k community's brainrot is almost upsetting.
>>94676027>>94676033Well shit I guess I use the brush on primer? Cus it's gonna be -5/-10 for a few weeks were I live
>>94676191>funny references [cont.]something about alexander and also companions. they're just silly epic references, man. they're inspirations, they're easter eggs, they're fucking homages, whatever. you're far too presumptive that they're anything other than coincidence or lip service>why is it bad that custodes don't have womenit isn't. it is objectively a net nothing. they're neither made worse nor improved. there is no advantage nor disadvantage. it is the most egregiously neutral retcon/lore change that the setting has had since the 90s
>>94676159Trade ships mostly "skim" off the warp. This is a slow method of travel but is pretty safe. The volume of traffic makes up for the time it would take to move an individual ship.IIRC most ships don't even have navigators, meaning that actually plunging into the warp like Navy or Astartes ships do would be their doom.
>>94676094>and made a tweet about it.the people who manage the social media accounts and warhammer community get shit wrong all the time and make up stuff on the fly as they see fit.Remember when they tried to pretend this was meant the be an eldar male head?
>>94676207>seem>eventuallywishy washy bullshit and wholesale irrelevant and ignored
>>94676214Eternal Crusade if I'm not mistaken
>>94676217You're not discussing 40k in /lit/ or /co/ for a reason, the miniatures are the setting, your irrelevant background space daddy isn't the setting, they ain't shit, they don't have ranges of models and they're not getting models.Russ is.
>>94676207And you're ignoring the context. The statement that Eldar literally physically transition is made from the point of view of a Wych Succubus in a book about Orks.Meanwhile in a book about Jain Zar, the literal founder of the Banshee Aspect, there is a male Banshee Exarch who is referred to with he/him pronouns by those within his own Shrine.Dark Eldar can undergo whatever surgeries they'd like.Banshees inly 'transition' mentally to fit the role of the Banshee.
>custodes don't even have a dedicated transport option, only SoSMotherfucker why is this faction so under-developed and half-assed? They're not god damn magicians. They still need transportation.
>>94676255because cuckstodes were never supposed to be a faction
>>94676259this is the most retarded meme in existence. i bet you're going to say some stupid shit like "and neither should knights"
>>94676219>silly epic references, man. they're inspirations, they're easter eggs, they're fucking homages, whatever. you're far too presumptive that they're anything other than coincidence or lip servicethey're done on purpose to define them. Custodes use greek/byzantine names and themes for a reason. You're just ignorant and you miss how jarring is to see that broken.It's like if Space Wolves suddenly began featuring Hindu themes or something.
>>94676266>memeit's the truththey were a background element who's defining feature was they didn't do big battles, they fought in solo/groups of 3-5 operations only if they ever left the palace
>>94676219>it isn't. correct answer >it is objectively a net nothing.incorrect and dishonest answereither custodes being all male isn't bad, meaning any change to that is bad.or if you defend the change then it means the change is good and imply custodes being all male was something bad, returning back to the question of why it is bad.absolute net nothings exist only in math.
>culture wars againOh ffs, stop bring twitter chud/tranny shit here
>>94676255They have Land Raiders, Assault and Deep Strike (foot sloggers). I think I know what you mean with having a cheaper option than the Land Raiders though
>>94676255Because they're not a real faction, they should get thrown back into 30k or into the imperial agents codex.
>>94676255Custodes have plenty of models, they're just in 30k resin
How conscious are servitors?
>>94676259>>94676306Shut up midhammer faggot
>>94676313dependsthey're not supposed to be but sometimes the process fucks up and they're able to wake up and realize what they're stuck in
>>94676309I want to use the Vehicle detachment so badly but I don't want to touch forge world.
>>94676313Technically they aren't at all. But servitorization isn't always perfect...
>>94676313most of the time they're not. sometimes they wake up, or are designed to be aware as punishment/a joke
>>94676320You're really desperate for attention huh
>>94676313If the mechanicus making the process is nice, not at all.If he is an asshole, has a grudge or is annoyed at you, then "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream"
>>94676247It's not from her point of view. It was a descriptive lore dump.Aeldari social roles change their biology.Here is the direct text.
>>94676324get cheaper recasts then, their resin minis are great even if their 40k rules are now in legends (I think)
>>94676323>>94676328>>94676330>>94676338That is fucking horrific and if I'm not mistaken some people are turned into servitors for shits and giggles
>>94676343>Taken on a female formThat feels extremely ambiguous as to whether or not there's even a physical change occuring. Even then the Jain Zar book clearly refers to a male Banshee as a He.
>>94676353They aren't in legends and in fact often get hit with points and gameplay updates, which is very odd for FW minis.
>>94676278>be custodian>have traditions, customs, and roles>be female custodian>have same traditions, customs, and roles???>>94676292this doesn't make sense, man. change doesn't occur because something was bad. future is just the changing of time. the past isn't bad, but that doesn't stop the future from happening. things can go from good to bad as well, you know.>if you defend the change it means that change is goodin this instance the change had no meaningful effect on the outcome. custards can be women, now. yay wooo yippee wowwee. nothing else happens.
>>94676363Different authors between these two books and Mike Brooks had said he would make it a point to insert as much LGTB stuff in his material as he can get away with.
>>94676353Not yet but they're counting the days. it's extremely clear that FW models will all be gone very soon.
>>94676354yeah, its probably pretty easy to get tagged for servitorisation if you cross the wrong person on a lot of worlds
>>94676380what about the custodes vehicles and dreadnoughts?
>>94676374>change doesn't occur because something was badyes, it does when there's an intelligent designer at play.someone considered the custodes being all male bad, and changed it to make it better to him.you defend the change, meaning you consider it good, meaning you consider custodes being all-male bad.if you didn't do the above you would consider the change bad because it changed something good.
>>94676379Another reason to consider all of these instances not canon with prejudice.
>>94676302stop bringing it up lamentersanon
>>94676379Which is why anything he writes should be disregarded. Eldar are gay enough already without him fagging them up.
>>94676379>MOIK BROOKE WROIGHT A BOOKE
>>94676303>>94676309No, I literally mean they specifically don't have [Dedicated Transport] except for the Null Maiden Rhino that they can't ride in. I know there's the Grav-carrier and the flying transport (that's literally one of the most massive models in the game btw) but I find it odd that there isn't a regular rhino/chimera-equivalency.
>>94676220>>94676202>>94676173Just had a thought, the warp/ sea of souls is to our oceans in warfare. History is rife with armies getting crippled by some storm or their forces arriwing late.
>>94676415forgot pic
>>94676434I saw one at a LGS. Fuck huge.
>>94676434>>94676435they're fucking absurd honestly. even the grav carrier is ridiculous
Are people STILL complaining about the new fulgrim model? Didn't realise there were so many EC fans desu
>>94676442I have no right to complain given that he has a Helmet. Not even Angron received that privilege.
Have any ork bros used the new tankbustas load out yet? Interested to see how they and the breakas go in a game
>>94676444>Not even Angron received that privilege.And arguably he needed it most. One of the worst clown faces in 40k.
>>94676404>>94676409It doesn't pay to be a bigot, you know.
>>94676194show me the female scorpion/dire avenger/incubi/fire dragon/dark reaper/farseer/warlock sculpts
>>94676454angron's face needs makeup, but it's not bad
>>94676313In Rogue Trader, a navy general was servitorized by a pirate into being a sex slave and she was conscious enough to gasslight him into insanity
>>94676343I read this as mentally changing them due to path super autism, rather than biologically
>>94675161It makes your tiny peepee angry and that's good enough for me. Sorry I don't give afuck about ancient homos.
>>94676483Do you have an extract of this?
>>94676473or a shave
>>94676379Based. In the 41st millennium there is only sodomy, rum, and the lash.
Anyone know how to achieve a glowing effect on a gun barrel?
Reminder that the current Drazhar is female.
>>94676313They are as conscious as their role requires, and are generally fully conscious. However, their personalities are erased.
If there was an upgrade kit to make your Eldar army fully female, I would collect it. An army of effeminate sissies does not feel good. Might as well actually make them girls. Especially since at least one of the craftworlds is canonically fully female.
>>94676552This right here. If they want to insist on women they might as well sexualize them properly to justify the decision. Eldar and Tau are predestined for an all-female treatment, with boobplate, tight skinsuits and all.
Why do C'Tan's look like giant humans?
>>94676552>Especially since at least one of the craftworlds is canonically fully female.They're mostly female with a matriarchal society.They're also predominately Banshees, the Aspect with the shortest life expectancy.
>>94676570They don't the Human mind just defaults to that because it's the only way it can comprehend them. Other races perceive the C'Tan in different ways, for example the Eldar see then as serpents
reminder clown servators exist
>>94676579This is not how that works, their miniatures are how they really look.
>>94676576These issues must be solved by loadse sex.
>>94676483That sounds so hilariously stupid to be part of early 40k or a random thing someone made up
>>94676593Eldar factories produce serpent miniatures
You think we'll get a plastic Moirax with the Knight codex, or will it get tossed to Legends?
>>94676593Yeah? Are you not a human?
>>94676579Wait so humans see the nightbringer as as the grim reaper because we associate death with that image?
>>94676596He's talking about the video game. It's a side quest where a bunch of individuals are fighting over a Pirate Kings inheritance.
>>94676606Night/Darkness is often associated with death so yeah
>>94676605Stop your clowning please, they have physical bodies made of necrodermis. They are not unimaginable beings warping minds. They are robots possessed by sentient electromagnetic fields.
>>94676606The novel "Nightbringer" says that humans perceive death as the grim reaper because they saw the Nightbringer when their species was young. The eldar also see death as the grim reaper for the exact same reason, so stop enabling the asspuller by going along with him.
>>94676570because they filled the shape of the necrodermis bodies given to them by the necrontyr who modelled these bodies after their old and half forgotten pantheon of gods which was most likely just how the necrontyr idealised themselves in short, they look human because necrontyr looked human
>>94676500>About twelve years back, there was an attempt on Denz's life. Not many could have even got close to him, let alone wounded him, but that assassin was a master of her craft. Denz was always a hardy fellow, and that's what saved him. That and his trusty implants. But the medics pretty much had to put him back together from scratch. When he finally emerged from the hands of the sawbones - months after the attempted assassination - he kept chuckling about her being a sharp one. And that she was real angry with him for burning her father, or her husband, I don't recall... and he was a ship Captain. I vaguely remember that conversation, but I'm almost certain that the ship was called The Repentance. And that Denz even knew the names of the captain and the proud would-be avenger.>She got away after the attempt, but I know that Denz sent mercenaries after her almost immediately.Pirate's Granddaughter - >"Did your grandfather ever mention the word repentance to you?">"He did. That word kept appearing in our house and nobody knew who wrot eit. It used to make Grandpa happy when I was little. He always smiled when he saw it! But then... later, when I was a little bigger and Grandpa was already old... it stopped making him happy. He was sad. He would just sit there and stare at nothing. And after that, when he got sick...">"When he got sick, the writing started to scare him. More and more of it appeared. 'Repentance, repentance, repentance'. Even in his bedroom. One time, he pointed at that word... and said something very weird. About dead eyes.Servitor - >If you didn't know what to look for, it would be easy to overlook this servitor, which may have once been a woman. It's implants, the mechanical nature of its movements, the empty gaze - it's all there. But... "Repentance." That single word causes the servitor's body to twist in a violent spasm. Something akin to a sob or a growl builds in its throat, and its mechanical appendages jerk convulsively.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0k3RFJjMxc&abArmy for this taste in music?
>>94676606no, the ctan nightbringer was simply the ancestral boogeyman who inspired all grim reapers in all cultures.except for the orks.
>>94676632>>94676596>>94676500>"Oh, this is a rare, one-of-a-kind unit! Comissioned personally by Master Bellardo twelve years ago. The main function of this servitor is cleaning the house, bedrooms, vestibules, bathrooms... in accordance with Master Bellardo's wishes, its free will was completely eradicated and the parts of its brain that regulated pleasure responses were destroyed, but to a large extent, its memory and awareness were preserved!
>>94676634sounds like blood angels, dark angels, night lords or generic chaos marines
>>94676632the servitor is also conscious enough to protect the life of her granddaughter when someone tries to shoot her
nurgle is king
>>94676682Whoever made this servitor deserves to be made into one
>>94676709You should learn to take better photos
>>94676715it does have a happy ending for the graddaughter at least if you go Iconoclast>Adelia Bellardo, the granddaughter of pirate Jerrycan Denz Bellardo, grew up to be a quick-witted and energetic captain. Since her guardian, who went simply by Chaplain, knew only three things in life, faith, slaughter, and voidfaring, he advised her to invest her inheritance in a voidship. Her trade clipper Snake travelled to all the settled worlds of the Expanse and to many uncharted ones as well. In all the time that Adelia Bellaro was captain, her ship never fired a single shot at civilian vessels.
>>94676721You should learn to tie a noose
>>94676787What's their datasheet?
>Bored at work>Decide to simulate the Bladeguard vs Cultists fight from Secret Level>Bladeguard take 2 damage total and proceed to butcher a 20-man Cultust blockI'll be honest I thought the Cultists would take down at least ONE Marine, but nope.
NEW THREAD:>>94676863>>94676863>>94676863
>>94676864Dumb fuck
>>94675942Suck my crystalline-jelly cheeks.
>>94676859Imagine if this guy had a plasma pistol
>>94676123But your impotent tears are all reason we need for femstodes. I hope you bitch amd moan as much at the female space marine announcement.
>>94674767Yeah but Necromundas allowed a little heresy, as a treat
>>94675942WRONG
>>94675242When he literally had some sort of a stroke, Prospero Burns was still good then his brain literally broke
>>94675702I use a mix of leadbelcher and armypainter copper :3
>>94675151Because women by default have no soul. That's why. Are you happy?