Previous: >>94737316>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://mtglands.com>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ:>What do you enjoy the most about playing STAX?
>TQShutting off Combo decks off and making them slog through a 2 hour game while I dig for my approach of the 2nd Sun
>>94745034>fast combo bad>Boring slow combo everyone has to painfully sit through good/edhg/ is without a doubt the worst edh community in existence
>>94745027>trinisphereMy beloved!>tqPersonally I like the nuance in the strategy. You combat stax with deck construction and planning; every piece can backfire if used incorrectly. It's up to you to assess the board and execute your strategy and I find that fun.
It's coming.
>>94745060Stax is only slow if you're bad. You can very quickly draw and pass the turn if you have no plays.
Last UB set this year is basically confirmed as Avatar the last Airbender
>>94745071>>94745108According to whom?Why would they not be able to announce that immediately? We already know every set coming this year, there is no reason to keep that one secret.
>>94745081Are you retarded? Approach is a slow combo wincon. You're literally a combofag but more annoying shut the fuck up
I don't play stax. I don't want people's time wasted, nor do I want my time wasted playing solitaire.
>>94745034So you prefer uninteractible combos over ones that people can actually interact with yet you somehow feel some superiority here peculiar
>>94745142>Approach is a slow combo winconCast approach, then cast windfall, draw Approach, cast next turn or cheat it out.Wow that was slow.
>>94745071>>94745108Water tribe blue Fire redEarth green Air white Spirits black
>tqI don't play stax, but my buddy who plays kinnan makes me want to
>>94745155Sounds like you dont understand stax.>>94745142Approach isnt slow at all for the certainty it provides. Swinging with a bunch of weak dudes for 120+ life is slow.
>>94745027seeing the enjoyment of their greedy as fuck hands leave from their faces once they realise they only got like 2 outs and no chance to tutor for them while I beat the shit out of them with a buff birds of paradise.
>>94745164>So you prefer uninteractible combosStax is more interactable than thoracel combo, because at least you can swing at them with creatures (after you pay approprate taxes and fees of course).Thoracle just happens and the game ends.
>>94745166And under which stax pieces are we doing this? Because the most powerful and strongest ones will stop this 3 different ways lol >>94745189>cast it>need to draw 7 more cards and cast it againYes it is objectively a slow COMBO wincon why are you even bringing up combat damage numpty
Stax is ok in decks that need some time to develop, like stone of erech, rest in peace, etc are good cards if you don't care about yout gy and makes the game better for everyone. But now, FULL STAX NO WINCON is just stupid, don't do that
>>94745177I'm uironically thinking of making a drana and linvala deck to deal with my friend who plays fucking picrel.
Why can nobody draw women like Magali Villeneuve?Johannes Voss, Rosemary Valero-O'Connell and now Winona Nelson all failed.
>>94745213Because combat damage takes much longer to win, you doorknob. Drawing 7 cards is hilariously easy newfriend.
>>94745213>Because the most powerful and strongest ones will stop this 3 different ways Please see>>94745064
>>94745208>stax is more interactible than this thing that can be interacted with on 4 different ways at any time of the comboForced drawStifleNon creature counterCreature counter Generic counterForced shuffleDress downThat's just off the top of my head. Whereas the basic gameplan of stax is to shit down people's ability to interact with your or the board in general. Dishonest niggers lmao
>>94745260I need that print
>>94745243Again we are talking about combo wins in this context where anon said stax good cause it let's me do a slow uninteractible combos which is inherently gayer and more boring than fast interactible ones! Try to keep up >>94745260This is not an answer :) under what stax package are you playing 3 cards and drawing 8 in a single turn?
combocucks KNEEL before staxGODs
>>94745275>This is not an answer :) under what stax package are you playing 3 cards and drawing 8 in a single turn?The answer is if you dont play your stax pieces correctly they can backfire on you (Rule of Law). This is what makes stax so much fun to play, you actually have to know the rules(Trinisphere and what your deck does.
>>94745027Shutting down other game plans while advancing my own>shitty gift demons in Irenicus>MLD in Hazezon>Stax squids in Runo>Portcullis in Shorikai>Crumbling Sanctuary in Varina (in combination with Lich Mastery)Stax alone a deck does not make, but disruption can be part of a strategy
>>94745239yo, what the fuck is this? Amateur hour? Thaliafag is NOT going to be happy.
>>94745027>tqDont play staxWould never do
>>94745239Nice AI "art"
i play stax to make people ragei play stax correctly to win the game
>>94745349>the answer is i don't have one i just want to name very popular cards as though it means anything
>>94745358Thaliafag already did an hero. This would've pushed him over the edge regardless.
>>94745394huh. Last I heard he was dealing with his gf having an over 3-digit body count.
>>94745213>stax sux cuz have no winconHow about this wincon?>doesn't count because fuck you
>>94745401Thalia has a 3-digit body count as well. he should be proud.
>>94745394:cSadHow did we find out about it?
>>94745404Please link to the post where I said stax sucks and then said because of no wincon. Don't believe I've ever uttered either sentiments
Is there any "cute" deck out there?
>>94745430dakkon blackblade
>>94745430Pedo-meter reading a 5.3, higher than average level of pedophilic intent detected
>>94745430Mishra possibility storm is pretty cute.
>>94745318I kneel>>94745389He kneels too
>>94745430For my (much) younger girlfriend I altered the bumbleflower deck and she also really likes dinosaurs so I'm making her this guy despite him being garbage because he's cute. Gunna convince her that big Gishath is his mummy so I can build her a functional deck
>>94745454Actually cute
Anything spicy for this? Building it as Jund Zurgo full of sweepers, other indestructible stuff, and Worldslayer wincon.
>>94745454>For my (much) younger girlfriend
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>94745547She was so excited when he picked her up from elementary school where she works
>>94745539Note that Maarika does not say "combat damage". Waltz of Rage is also good.
>>94745547it cant be helped
>>94745134>>94745134Arena has been doing deals based on the 2025 setsVehicles for AetherdriftTarkir Dragons for Tarkircards saying "star" for the space operaFinal Flare and Crystals for final fantasySpiders for Spider-manand the pic you saw with the four elements and "bending"The animated film was also meant to come out late 2025 when that's et will be released, so the timing fits
>>94745612I was planning on my single target removal being bites and fights, but didn't think about how it could be used for more board wipes too. Nice pick.
So uhhh, where are the brackets?
Best commander for bant game objects.dek?
>>94745673Also fit's WotC's criteria for choosing franchises.>had positive geek recognition>is in a bit of a slump>franchise is looking to do a big reveal which WotC can piggyback off ofAll of the UB choices need to hit that first mark, but if the second and third are also available WotC will fucking pounce.
>>94745780FEBRUARYSAME TIMEFRAME AS EVERY FUCKING TIME YOU ASK THIS QUESTION
>>94745780Told you it wouldn't happen."Everything is legal, everything is banned, it just depends on how you look at it! Please continue to buy product!"
>>94745803different anon, but last time it was the vegas event and I don't remember if they gave an actual date after they changed that date
I'm not spending a penny on UB except MAYBE Cosmere if they don't make Vin black.
>>94745780It wont happen. WotC has realized how easily they'll fuck it up and will just keep status quo indefinitely.
>>94745780Would you rather them rush it out and it be ass and need a new system almost day 1?
>pre-Covid, LGS hosts EDH night>sign up and get random pairings>everyone knows everyone>some players are absolutely horrid to experience, but that's okay when it's all RNG about who you play>get a huge variety of games because it's a different group every time>store temporarily closes for covid>reopens>fill-and-fire pods instead>players are insular, always pod in with the friends they came with and wait for extras to join, so you get samey experiences if you play with them>since it's no longer random you can curate your experience >...which amounts to not joining a pod if someone truly miserable to play against comes along>but then someone else miserable joins the next pod>store breaks up into cliques>the same people keep rejoining each others' games every week instead of trying new things outI miss randomly being thrown to the wolves bros.
>>94745882I feel this. My lgs is "fill and fire" and while there are some people I enjoy playing with they tend to have friends i absolutely do not like playing with ended up just not going anymore cause it's not worth it. I'd enjoy a random thing, been trying to get my friends to get the pod back together but they are weebfags and like one piece too much plus I hate his girlfriend so maybe it's all for the best
>>94745882Yes. This is the death spiral of edh at the hands of gatekeeping tards "curating their experience".
>>94745882>>94745925>>94745930Sounds great.I've found my preferred games are with new players, lightly upgraded precons, and jank pilesThere are some real sweats at my LGS running every Good Stuff tm card that goes in their colors, and playing absolutely miserable shit like infinite combos, theft, mill.I'd much rather play generally the same people each week than the games I've had where I have to sit with a sweat because that's the only choice.
>>94745438>>94745440They aint cute!>>94745454He cute!
>>94745547if you were 32 and dating a 20 year old, wouldn't you call her much younger?
>>94745363>Dont play staxWhats stopping you from ascending?
>>94746019Yeah i would But you know age/2+7So its wrong
>>94746019Why would you date someone who was still in diapers as you went into puberty?
>>94746019Pretty close to our actual ages actually
>>94746036Why would you date someone who was a baby ever then? that's retarded, if you are both adults you can date>>94746034>but you know>personal oddly specific rule of thumblegal age is all that matters in this discussion isn't it? we're getting off topic so I'm gonna stop laughing at your autism
>its another episode of "My combat focused Boros deck is shit, so I need to resort to my secret ingredient"shill me a good boros deck that isnt winota, osgir or combat step spam.
>>94746042with all due respect, kill yourself
>>94746058Arabelle protection creatures + light stax
>>94746022Guess i rather like decks about building boards than stopping the opponentJust luv the feeling of a good board built
>>94746054>Why would you date someone who was a baby ever then? that's retarded, if you are both adults you can dateThe difference is, if you were both babies around the same time it isn't as fucking weird.What could you possibly have in common with someone over 10 years younger than you?
>>94746075>Just luv the feeling of a good board builtYou literally just described STAX :)
>>94746078Anon stop raging at people who aren't even me just because they aren't on your level of gynocratic brainwashing and talk about the fucking game. The only reason it was brought up was because it was relevant to the question the other guy was asking ^.^ be calm all is well, she is safe and taken care of and we love playing magic together :D
>>94746078>What could you possibly have in common with someone over 10 years younger than you?Literally their entire adult life??
>>94746111Yeah, I can imagine it now. The long conversations about Fortnite, waiting for the next skibid toilet, debating whether subway surfers or family guy clips are better duets for brainrot content
>>94746065Good suggestion, but unfortunately I cannot build her as a friend already has a deck with her. Used goods etc. You know how it is.
>>94746100Excus' me sir, i aint into the english magic matter yet Whats stax exactly? Thought its about making the opponent pay more and more mana no matter the move
Can i cast the same card more than once with this or after it's been casted and sacrificed does it look that because it's a new card in the graveyard?
>>94746122I do know how it is i was incredibly excited when she was revealed made a list i was really happy with fast forward a month and shes got like 8000 decks and I am wholly unoriginal >.<
>>94746148Nope. When the creature leaves your graveyard and enters it again, it becomes a new object relative to that effect.
>>94746120>proving you have no interests or reference for the world outside>I WILL TELL OTHERS HOW TO LIVEwhat a fascinatingly selfimportant specimen you are
>>94746058My "Oop, all Boros deck is literally, with 2 exceptions, just all Boros cards. Pretty fun, I like making my Robot Army. Slightly outdated by like 4 or 5 cards but otherwise accurate.https://manabox.app/decks/NOYmKls8QaWNyJaIikPR1A
>>94746058anim pakal is really amazing for aggro, also gut + folk hero for boros goblins if you like tribal, finally you can play The Jolly Balloon Man for flicker stuff, boros is nice nowadays
>>94746148Sac dis summon -creatures- from graveyard You can cast this case 4 times but its always the same
>>94746114>>94746075>>94745060>>94745164>>94746058God we hope this is true!
Looking for feedback on my Erinis deck please, any spicy includes I'm missing?
>>94746189Forgot the link like a retard: https://moxfield.com/decks/KJEkEFlj2Uiz82ZOLm1yrw
>>94746189>>94746199anon, your list looks pretty solid already, but srsly, orcish lumberjack is TOO GOOD to pass, here is my list too, see if something catches your eye: https://moxfield.com/decks/IdXo5sZu70iemP2eqSyWYg
>>94746169Really cool deck i had a list for this for a while fast and fun. When you can cast him and the next turn make like 3 golems from cheap boros spells it's fun
>>94746137You are correct!A proper stax deck 'as a board state dat's dead 'ard to mess wiv!
>>94746078>What could you possibly have in common with someone over 10 years younger than you?About as much as I have in common with people my own age. Maybe more actually, thanks to this place I'm more aware of boomer media I've never watch than I am of the stuff from when I was in high school that I never watched.
>>94746231Don't bother replying to the retard. The only perspective he has on "interests" are youtube shorts and social media. Never been outside or participated in a sport, hobby, or game. All the sadder considering he's in a thread for a game he doesn't play.
>>94745770I'd keep your single target removal as bog standard terminates and maelstrom pulses. The upside of getting the occasional kill of both a creature and another permanent isn't worth the downside of getting blown out by your commander getting killed in response, especially because there will be shit bigger than she is from time to time. Your deck will already be struggling when your commander isn't in play, no reason to also blank your removal in that scenario.
>>94746221Thanks for posting your deck, how does pic related work out for you? On paper powerstone feel like the perfect rock for the deck, but the RG powerstone support is so lame...
>>94746036Not that anon, but I dated a woman 12 years younger than me too.I met her as an adult, 19, but an adult none the less. We just clicked well, it happens.I don't think I was too old for her though, but in retrospect she was too young for me.Its not unheard of, not that weird, but I'm biased because of that experience.
>>94746058Do you whine about Orzhov and their infinite loop too?
>>94746230So stax aint just 'bout making it tuff but more 'bout like "BRING IT ON!! I'm gonna rebuild any moment!"??Noice, luv stax! Ayara ftw
>>94746227Yes, he makes an army lightning quick with a good hand and considering they're 4/4s, significantly larger than the average token, he forces either a response, with he prevents much of the best with hexproof from Monocolored or a boardwipe, which you have options to avoid in Boros. It's great, I love General Iron Rock.
>>94746058Sorry, not sorry.
>>94745027TQ: I like making people who thought they could win just by spending lots of money on efficient mana sources cry.
>>94746058>combat focused deck wins with combatand the problem here is?
>>94746272honestly, the powerstone token is pretty good because you can use that mana to activate your background and even sac itself, so it does everything you want. Visions of Phyrexia is another card that i considered, but i think it's kinda slow
>>94746318You need to win the way I want you to win.
>the Stax threadI LOVE DENYING RESOURCES! I LOVE WARS OF ATTRITION! I LOVE SACRIFICING! IF NO ONE HAS GUN EVERYONE'S HAVING FUN!THE STAIRS LEAD DOWN IN BOTH DIRECTIONS!
>>94746263You really think it'll be that fragile without her? I was thinking with 20+ sweepers it would be fairly easy to stall until she comes back out, especially when I'm breaking parity with other indestructible permanents.
>>94746445Zurgo is one of my main decks so I'm familiar with how it wins and loses. Maarika has the serious perk of getting access to green so you're less likely to be trying to pay 9 for her and not have the mana, but you lose out on the most efficient sweepers. Exile-based removal is incredibly common now, and people can always just wrath on their turn to kill her. It's far better to build your deck as something that can play from behind and then bring out the commander as a wrecking ball once you've cut people off at the knees with sweepers rather than try to keep her in play constantly. You also have to remember that her triggered ability is only good if they have noncreature nonland permanents in play, which with cards like bane of progress and wave of vitriol might not always be the case. Oh, and Inquisitor's Flail is funny as hell and stacks with double strike to one-shot people, I recommend it.
>>94746291A grot-stompin' stax deck is one where da enemy can't do nuffin' 'bout it! Dey try ta fight back, but it's all locked down tight! It's like tryin' ta bash yer way outta a locked vault – ya just bounce off!
Yep. Boros players are truly pathetic and degenerate.
>>94746553Don't talk about my wife that way
Is Boros bad because something about its identity or is Boros bad because red and white happen to be the worst colors in EDH individually?
>>94746568Boros does basically one thing, and that one thing just happens to be boring.
>all opponents tap out and vomit their hand on the battlefield for five turns>exile everything>"wtf, that card schould be banned!?"
>>94746587>player has white>do 40 damage to them before they hit 6 mana>don't overcommit though
>>94746580Yeah so different to Orzhov life drain, Izzet storm/spellslinging, Simic counters, Selesnya counters...
>first to escape the underworld>god of deceptionhmmm mill 7
>>94746587It's only annoying because its rarely played in a way that wins, just resets the board.
>>94746598Boring and degenerate is boring and degenerate, and those are too.
>>94746609What's with this mentality, if your deck's gameplan is slow kneecapping strategies that are faster and about to win gives you the time you need to win. Why don't EDH players just go play YuGiOh or a 1v1 format if they're so strapped for time?
>>94746568Red and White are both colors that look to commit resources early and win quickly. As a color pair they magnify each other's strengths but do not cover each other's weaknesses. As two colors also looking to win through small creatures, they scale the worst in EDH and the junction between them is particularly focused on combat. Strixhaven tried to bring more to the table than just 'ra ra boros' token spam but most of the time the color combination gets very straightforward and simple cards. Compare it to golgari where although everything is about graveyard recursion, there's sacrifice payoffs, there's combat damage payoffs, there's value engines, and most importantly there's card draw. These things scale to a long game far better than hitting people with 1/1s until they fall over.
I printed out a Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire deck to try out with my friends, and it just wasn't a very fun experience. He's fun when you're chaos warping random stuff from their board, but the reality is that most times you just want to destroy everyone's commanders every turn because, well, why wouldn't you? It's the one thing they probably won't get anything better as a replacement from the top. This led to games where nobody even cast their commanders and everyone was just mad and killing me ASAP so they could actually play. It's not a very great play pattern.
>>94746609If everyone dumps their hands and I farewell, then I played it in a way that wins. Denying you resources and turns.>>94746597just don't overcommit at anytime unless you are going for the win that turn. In other words, git gud.
There are things about commander nowadays that are so fucking gay. My friends were talking about how i love "win-more" cards, the example at the time bieng Combat Celebrant, since he's only good when you already have a good board of attackers. But like, isn't that the point of commander? Where the fuck am i going to play with Combat Celebrant if not in the dedicated joke format? The whole concept of "you shouldn't run win-more cards" is so lame. EDH is exactly for win-more cards. It's where you should try for the big crazy plays with cards that are not good enough for other formats. And yet everyone is like "erm akshually you should substitute this win more card for a generic value engine piece" Fuck off, what the fuck happened to this format
>>94746602In MTG, mill means mindfuck, so yea.I could also imagine something in the "target opponent makes a choice and you get a chance to make them regret their choice" wheelhouse.
>>94746700Part of being good is accepting that some cards, which appear strong at first glance, are bad. If this is a lesson you're unwilling or unable to learn you're going to have a bad time.
Should I drive 20 minutes to the bank after work to deposit 80 bucks to buy cards on TCG Trader?
>>94746697>just let the guy holding farewell amass his win-con with protection or else he'll farewellIf there were no pity in the format you would stop being the guy with farewell.
>>94746700Dude, run whatever you want. Why are you putting so much stock into what bullshit your friends are talking about? Try to do your thing, but if you get blown the fuck out, don't pout and get butthurt, and learn how to not get blown the fuck out.
>>94746725Why the fuck not.
>Alela Artful Provocateur>Tell table it's "Mostly Voltron with like three light stax pieces in the whole deck">Proceed to draw nothing but stax and removal all gameIt's not my fault I played Crackdown, Attrition and Gravitational Shift with counter backup :(
>>94746587The problem with Farewell is that it exiles. If it was the same card but it was destroy in all instances (except graveyards, of course) it would be fine. Magic went 25+ years without having efficient mass exile effects, and there was a reason for that. There's a lot of counterplay for boardwipes, but the vast majority of it doesn't work against Farewell or Sunfall. You either have a counterspell (which in EDH is sometimes literally impossible due to inherent deckbuilding restrictions), or you have one of the mass phase-out effects, or you just lose on the spot. That's what feels bad, there's little you can do about it and for six mana they unmake your entire game. It also creates a situation where as mass exile effects become more common, wizards keeps printing more and more pushed mass-phaseout efects as counterplay and all of them end up overpriced and overplayed, and it ends up creating an arms-race. I don't bother playing stuff like Heroic Intervention anymore because it has legitimately been power-crept out of the format, since most boardwipes you will ever face are either exile or just cyclonic rift now.
>>94746700>combat celebrant is a win-more cardNo, celeberant is a win-card. Find literally any way to make copies of him. Your friends hating on him are bad.
>>94746720Part of being a deck builder is choosing the balance you want between optimal and fun. You can have 90%optimal with 10% win more.Most 'bad cards' are usually just unique effects that need to have a shining situation to work properly but that shouldnt stop anyone from trying.
>>94746755Nah. Part of deck building is pruning things you love but never use in pursuit of a better deck. "Fun" is nebulous and has nothing to fo with it. You can play bad things that you like, but you cant be mad when they're bad.
>>94746755Ahhhh I love that enchantment so much. It makes the resident Nekusar player on our pod seeth.
>>94746780>Part of deck building is pruning things you love but never use in pursuit of a better deck.just sounds like deckbuilding is making a list that slowly eclipses your typical cedh list for the color identity.
>>94746720The card being good or not is not the point, the point is that it's EDH and it's the format where i want to use splashy cards with big effects. It's not even about winning or not, what pisses me off is the general consensus that has been forming around the format, >>94746733 the reason why i care about what my friends think is because they have been informed by youtubers and discussion around the format that has increasingly been trending towards the realm of optimization. They legitimately don't understand why i would run big splashy cards when i could run something better, because they have been taught by people online that you need to optimize your deck. EDH, even in this casual setting where i'm playing with my friends at my kichen table, has been plagued by the optimization mind virus that makes people obcess over winning to the point where the format created to use less optimized cards now has people looking at you like you're retarded for trying to use them. It's extremely homossexual and i blame youtubers for it.
>>94746669Did you consider not just killing their commanders over and over?
>>94746609Kill yourself you fucking moron. I stopped YOU from winning. That's what board wipes do.
>>94746730Anon stop being so pathetic. You know you have the autonomy to counterspell, return spell, teferi's pro, ghostway, any number of phasing, or play your spells right and beat the farewell player rather than crying about it on a mongolian throat singing image board. >>94746746>That's what feels badyou guys will cry about anything.
>>94746805I mean, yes. But at the same time 90% of the times it's objectively the best play to make. I don't think i should deliberately play wrong to make the deck feel better.
>>94746755I just love deckbuilding and playing with pet cards. Simple as.
>>94746797Yup, pretty much. Remember, what is best in life?>>94746798To be blunt, sounds like you dont like losing and are blaming everyone but yourself. You dont have to lose, but if you choose not to learn from your defeats you'll wind up stuck in the mud.
>people really complaining about a 6 mana sorcery that doesn't even win the game
>>94746816If you're really just going to gloss over all the arguments i made in my post i'm going to assume you're not actually willing to have a conversation about the subject. Probably just farming (you)s or whatever it is you retards call it. Well, you got another one, congratulations.
>>94746825Resetting the board when you can build yours back up faster is winning the game.
>>94746817>give them a card they can recast and maybe a permanentVs>take away a card and maybe give them a permanent Uh no it's not
>>94746798>the reason why i care about what my friends think is because they have been informed by youtubers and discussion around the format that has increasingly been trending towards the realm of optimization.> informed by youtubersThis is a troll right? Fuck you got me.
>>94746816Blue players have such a warped sense of the world.
>>94746823I literally said in the first phrase that it's not about winning or losing. Did you just not read my post? EDH is the format where established MTG players went to play with cards that are not good enough for regulat constructed, but that has been eroded in favor of people like you, who are just content with making copy-paste decklists with the most optimized cards possible because you want to win in a joke format that is inherently so comically unbalanced that victory is meaningless. I care about winning when i'm playing modern, not fucking EDH, that's what grinds my gears about the average EDH player being so obcessed with victory to the point where people feel like they can't run suboptimal cards anymore in the format made for suboptimal cards. I think a big part of it is htat most EDH players nowadays have never evne played regular magic before, so they don't have a point of refernece to understand that EDH is just inherently shit as a competitive format.
>>94746567If you don't have your wife in the most expensive foil printing, you're just a cuck
Gay Bolas
>>94746746Farewell is needed more the more indestructible protection is printed
>>94746842You understand that for most decks the commander is the best card in their deck right? Sure, they can recast it but good luck doing that if you're in, say, an Esper deck with a 4cmc commander. I kill it with Vaevictis and it now costs six, you're going to use your entire next turn to cast it again and i'm just going to kill it again. Unless you have boots, there's just no point in even trying to get your command to stick on board with a vaevictis player on the table. At least that was the experience i had with my friends
>>94746876Don't care. Not reading your gay card from your gay color, or listening to your gay argument.
>>94746845Why do you think that's a troll? I'm sorry if i'm the one who has to break this to you, but 90%+ of all EDH players nowadays get all their information about deckbuilding and the format in general from youtubers.
>>94746876This is less faggy tho
>>94746888if you have the counterspell, why are you complaining?
>>94746888Why didn't you counterspell the farewell?
>>94746898Retards like you saying your card needs to be unanswerable and overloaded as shit is why blue is slowly becoming more of a hero color.
>>94746907Your average table is not gonna have a shadowspear
>>94746925They're more likely to have a darksteel forge tho?
>>94746925Don't care + Didn't read + You're retarded
>>94746858I read your post, and stand by what I said. You cant be mad that bored judges arent the primary audience anymore, and as cards were printed directly into edh certain cards become less viable. Your issue isnt that new cards good, rather you're taking issue with the fact that old bad cards cant win, even though you never intended to win in the first place. You still get to use cards that arent viable in other formats, but now there are also cards not viable in edh.
Cry more
>>94746780If youre mad at your own decisions to include a card because 'it didnt do the thing' in a game that's on you buddy.This happens on both ends, if youre playing top end and end up in a pod with no blue and both a red elemental and lava blast in your deck thats just the way the dice roll buddy.
>>94746951Only hits creatures. Farewell hits everything but planeswalkers.
Foundations is the nicest cracks I've ever had with this game and it's not even close. I've bought about 15 packs so far and I've made money off every single one. Here's some pulls I just got from spontaneous splurge on two packs I got from Wal-Mart while shopping for tendies. I feel like the hits for Foundations are intentionally way higher than in other sets to get newfags hooked on cracking. Anyone else getting consistent good/lucrative pulls?
>>94746946And that's extremely homossexual. The joke format where you used to use weird cards is now the joke format where people who aren't good enough for real magic circlejerk with their optimized EDHrec copypaste decks because they only care about winning in what essentially amounts to a special needs race.
>>94747065Sounds like you're the one taking a joke format too seriously because you're obviously not having fun playing it, and would rather wax poetic about why no one who is good enough to ppay a real format would play edh. Perhaps you're playing the wrong format entirely.
>>94747080He can't scum wins in kitchen table EDH, how is he supposed to scum wins in actual mtg?
I once again ask help with my deck. I've posted it here a couple of times but gotten no help. This deck is horrible, i NEVER win with it and i've played several times. At this point me making bad decks is a meme with my friends but i genuinely don't know what makes this deck bad. Please help.https://archidekt.com/decks/8319898/urza_30
>>94746993Hare apparent is fucking gay
>>94747088Practice, dedication, comitment, research and hard work. It's the only way.
>>94747109>No steel overseer>No Foundry Inspector>No animation Module>Some stax stuffYou need to commit to big armies that pump each other up and go wide or stax, not one or the other. Your deck suffers from trying to spin too many plates.
>>94745981What's wrong with theft? I'm not gonna bend your cards, asshole
>>94746587>blue has cyclonic rift>nobody complains about it>white gets farewell>"bro that shit should be banned">blue has rhystic study>nobody complains about it>white gets smothering tithe>"bro that shit should be banned"what the hell is people problem with white
>>94747109Your manabase is omega ass and you have a bunch of overcosted cards.
>>94747240>no one complains about Rhystic Study or Cyclonic Rift>two of the most complained about/ban-begged cards in the entire gameYour bait sucks *spits it out*
>>94747249Yes, exclusively by retards.
>>94747240Bro. People have been begging for Rhystic and Rift bans for a long ass time.
>>94746284What infinite loop?
>>94746493Thanks for the insight. Do you run MLD? It won't be completely taboo at the table I'm planning to play the deck and I'm wondering if it sets people back enough to serve as a wincon outside of worldslayer locks. I'll run Jokulhaups either way to have enough sweepers, but Obliterate and Devastation feel too expensive if they don't win the game.
>>94747240it's funny how people say that white is the weakest color when stax, mass land destruction and board wipes (arguably things that white does best) are socially banned, it's like playing with half a color
>>94746587>landdrop and pass for the first few turns>meanwhile opponents are dumping their hands in the battlefield>turn 5:I love this little card like you wouldn't believe it
>>94747276The same one every orzhov/golgori player uses. When you lose life, I gain life, when I gain life, you lose life.
theyre making a whole new set based on some random rare from invasion?
>>94747357Based card
>>94747266Only noobtards think those cards should be banned.
>>94746058My only boros deck is the flip Avacyn and it's a lot of board wipes and equipment.
>>94747240>N-NOBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT THESE>>94747387>>94747261>NO THE ONLY PEOPLE COMPLAINING ARE STUPID!!!you're a clown
>>94747292In my mind, MLD is only a bitch move if you can't finish the game. For a deck like Zurgo where you're ideally killing someone in 1 or 2 swings, it's more of a way to slam the door shut right before winning rather than a way to drag out the game for an extra hour. You do run the risk of just fucking everyone over then eating the first Swords to Plowshares after people topdeck lands, but between careful timing and running shit like Crucible to make sure you're the first to rebuild I think it's helpful. I run Armageddon, Jokulhaups, and Wildfire right now, but I'm still tweaking the list as I'm not quite happy with my ratio of wraths/removal and I have a few too many sources of trample for a deck that's looking to clear blockers with sorceries - https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/give-me-your-hat/ . Special shoutouts to Dimensional Breach which you unfortunately don't have access to, as it's awesome in a deck that wants its commander and no other permanents. In my experience something like Worldslayer is too cute, though I have equipped it to Avacyn before and that was better than sex which is good because I killed my gf with it and pissed her off.
>>94747401Yes, they are stupid. Go on, say a nonretarded argument in favor of banning them.
>>94746798There are different ways to play EDH. Truly artful masters win and are able to optimize their big splashy unoptimized pet cards as wincons.
>>94745027>>What do you enjoy the most about playing STAX?Dropping Split Second cards on staxfags and watching them bluster and bitch before I nuke all their creatures
>>94747319Chain Miscast.
>>94747387Someone tell CEDH that Rhystic is a bad card because your enemies can just pay the one.
>>94745027>>What do you enjoy the most about playing STAX?I like making LGS randos tilt and sperg out for my entertainment.
>>94747417It's a balanced card because everyone can pay the 1. Then Rhystic is simply a 3 mana Thalia who can't attack or block.
>>94747417Also the majority of CEDH players are net decking noobtards, many with entire decks of anime waifu proxies
>>94745027>TQGetting pic related out and naming instant might be one of the comfiest feelings in magic.
>>94747417Casual can go slow though? Just pay the one
>>94747451The comparison is that it's an asymmetrical sphere of resistance retard.
>>947469453rd best golgari removal behind Ass Trophy and Abrupt Decay. Such a great card.
>>94747465The blue whale dropping rhystic in the casual pod already has the game on a timer until he drops a Cyc Rift or some wincon. You need to rush these kinds of players to beat them before their whale value engines amass enough free counterspells that it is not literally possible to beat them. You notice this pattern if you actually played games.
>>94746189>>94746199>>94746221Cool decks lads, going to have to slot in Orcish Lumberjack since I picked up pic a while ago. Here's my list, went in a slightly less lands-focused direction since I already have a lands deck I like:https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/erinis-gloom-stalker-street-urchin-2/?cb=1736202830I also tried to lean heavily into instant-speed draw, since I figure I'll leave a lot of mana open to remove creatures and probably won't spend it all.
>Thalia that's harder to remove and also applies to creatures and also doesn't apply to you and also if one retard misplays you win>/edhg/ is genuinely so retarded they don't see how this is good because they think a 2/1 body is worth more
>>94747468>this retard is backHi dumbass anon. How was the vacation? Dont you remember the last time you tried this schtick?
>>94747352That’s in mono black. I was hoping it was something I hadn’t heard of and wasn’t in 1 color
>>94747493Who are you replying to?
>>94747406>In my mind, MLD is only a bitch move if you can't finish the gameThat's exactly how I see it in the deck. The STP problem is also something I thought about, which is why I was planning on running the bridges, darksteel ingot, and the half dozen or so other decent indestructible creatures Jund has access to. It's funny you mention trample, I was planning on running some of it and maybe even some deathtouch to get more damage through to face while assigning only one excess to the creature to trigger the edict.
>playEDH bans 3 cards and one of them is just because "some members in the community" don't like what the card looks likewhy are all of my hobbies infested with weird tranny losers? am i the problem?
>>94747564Neat all those bans are fine. I dont know why people listen to these emotional frail tards.
>>94747575name one good reason why Negan is banned but it's identical reprint is not
>>94747536Just remember the edict is only as good as their worst noncreature permanent, and trample only means something if they have creatures to block with. If you have enough wraths those resources should go to something that lowers the number of turns you need to be attacking before the game is over. Jeska's triple strike is funniest but I've never gotten it to work.On the flip side, if you really want to go into the depths of the jank tank you could try to find ways to turn Maarika into a sliver so she can have Provoke.
>>94747564>Banned a combo, but not the cards that are part of them.What a retarded way to do things, baiting for leftist hate confirmation aside.
are there any reliable ways of determining deck power levels? i've been using edhpowerlevel.com but people on reddit are saying it's inaccurate
>>94747564
>>94747582The Walking Dead sucks ass, and you can trace the through-line from Telltale's visual novels to The Last of Us to the obsession with "highbrow" adaptations of video games into consumer television that has resulted in a slurry of hyper-realistic dross with no artistry and no game design.
>>94747595it's a 7
>>94747604Shitty "deep" video game movies predate TWD by a lot.
>>94747604i don't disagree but why ban that one card and not the entire TWD set>i looked it up and the controversy is because Negan is a "rapist"
>>94747610ok i know this is a meme but edhpowerlevel says it's a 6.8 and cardsrealm says it's a 7 so can i be confident that it's ACTUALLY a 7?
>>94747589I do have a maskwood nexus and it's tutor colors. I think I'm locked in on this deck already, but sliver voltron with a completely unrelated commander does sound like a fun idea for another day.
>>94747582Because UB is gay.
>>94747601>Light text on a light backgroundShould be banned on that alone imho
>>94747626the honest answer is power level literally doesn’t matterthe only meaningful metric is precon-tier, mid-tier, and cEDH
>>94747678delete this. you can't post cards that are on the ban list here. additionally, this card makes some members of our community uncomfortable.
>>94746897>nearly 40 dollarsCan't believe I'm going to pay double just because of lara banging titties.
>>94747493Rhystic isn't an auto win and pretending it is is just silly
>>94747678>secretlyam i missing something? why does it say this? why does it need to be secret?
>>94747595play the game more often and it becomes glaringly obvious when a deck is mismatched power for the pod.
>>94747697No, but it gets you to winning a lot fucking faster. Draw is one of the most powerful things in this format. Arguable more than normal formats due to one offs and more of them.
>>94747700So you can get two creatures sacced numbnuts
>>94747697rhystic puts you n^2+1 turns ahead of your opponents where n is the number of spells cast within a turn. it's absurdly powerful and any committee worth their salt would've banned it a long time ago
>>94747564>banning combo aspect of cards but not the cards themselves Just fucking grow some balls and brains and say anything that goes infinite only triggers 2-3 times if it's uncontested. JFC it's not rocket science and literally no one but combofags would have a problem with this.
>>94747712So ban all draw spells I'd say
>>94747700If it wasn't secret, it'd always be declared in turn order like other choices. This gives you the opportunity for both players to choose the same one by accident. It's a hostage situation.
>>94747714>>94747727oh i'm retarded i thought you were both choosing a creature to sack for each other. like player A sacks a player B creature and player B sacks a player A creature. it's still a stupid card but not as bad as i was thinking.
>>94747725No card gets more passive draw than Rhystic.
>>94747723so Thoracle Combo is fine then, since it isn't an infinite
>>94747718No, it doesnt. You're posting retard math.>>94747712Sure, but you always get the less adventageous choice.
>>94747725Rhystic's one of the best draw engines in the game. That's why it's run. You only make yourself look more ignorant the more you try to pretend it isn't a crazy good card .
>>94747745>You're posting retard mathexplain how i'm wrong
>>94747739Thoracle should be totally banned yes
>>94747748You're equating draw to a turn. The rest is just nonsense based on a faulty premise.
>>94747678>Little piiiiig, little PIG!!Aah truly one of my favourite commanders. Such a shame The Walking Dead was the first UB they did. They could have done eo many other characters and a lot more zombie support.
UB is cringe but i would really like an elden ring set
>>94747790Elden ring is played out.
>>94747718No it doesnt? What a retarded statement you mathfags are insufferable
>>94747739Not a combo. An interaction have to go infinite to be a combo.
>>94746058Jolly bamboo man
>>94747738>>94747747>pays the oneWow no card draw for you and all I had to do to deny you one of the most powerful things in the game was pay 1 mana? Nice! And anon number two why wasn't it run for the longest time (in edh) and literally a 30 cent card
>>94747790UB of settings that share cultural DNA with Magic are fine. Warhammer, LotR, DnD are fine. Game of Thrones could work. The frames for UB cards are ugly as fuck though.
>>94747790This but World of Warcraft.
>>94747817>Pays the one, they're still ahead because you're not pushing your side of the board.
>>94747817If sphere of resistance was asymmetrical it would be in every deck.
>>94745882There's one guy with OP decks, and his friend who plays group hug which enables him.It's so bad the players died off and we're lucky to get more than one table going
>>94747790Problem with a Fromsoft UB is that it's too popular and current. wotc is absolutely obsessed with doing UB crossovers for over the hill boomer IPs past their prime. I think the only time they hit something at the right moment was the Warhammer 40k decks.
>>94746587>opponents were playing the "play the game" game?>better punish them for it
>>94747790I hate UB and would not purchase any of the products even if they were of my most beloved intellectual properties.
>>94747830>play my card and my taxesHow is my board state not progressed? I had to play a card to pay the tax, you're retarded.>>94747840>god pharaoh not in everyone's library Doesnt seem like it would be
>>94747867>How is my board state not progressed?>Having to slow yourself down to pay the taxes.>How is my board state not progressed?You're not very good at game theory.
>>947478676 versus 3 mana thank you.
>>94747876Neither are you, I bet you're the dumbass with that nonsense math equation. Paying the 1 is optional; you always get to pick whatever you find adventageous.
>>94747891Paying the one to not let the other person draw is more advantageous in them moment, but its still putting them ahead by making you slow your plays down and thus your board state.Rhystic is nothing but a win-win for the player. That's why its a staple and in every deck that even looks at blue.
>>94745108captain planet confirmed
UB this, Rhystic Study thatI just wanna mating press a dragon for God's sake.
>>94747927I'm here to stroke my deck, not my dick
>>94747906No, you're just bad. There are a wide variety of situations where you wouldnt want to pay the 1, and regardless of both situations being adventageous, it's a 3 mana enchantment. There's nothing wrong with that. Smart players do not care about rhystic; it's a tempo card that can be easily played around without additional stax effects.
>>94747955>Smart players do not care about rhysticcrazy that they don't care about it on the enemy's field but care about having it in their deck and will let it determine mulls.
>My Koldra Compleat came in the mail today.Do you guys start building a shitty thrown together decks with a few core pieces and plug in and out when more stuff comes in, or do you wait into you have almost everything to start playing your decks?I like the former even if its bad from jump myself. Impatience maybe? I don't know.
>>94747967Again, if you're bad.
>>94747967Nobody runs a card that doesn't help you win, doesn't stop people from winning at all and doesn't significantly prevent them setting up for winning on a later turn either
>>94747864>that webmYknow sometimes I see these and really think to myself>god do I want to watch a 30 year old Taiwanese puppet soap opera?...and then contemplate how we got here as a society talking about cardboard and posting fucking puppets on a basketweaving forum...I should watch the show
>>94747989blue opponent drawing cards doesn't stop me from winningyall dont play the game
>>94748010You're the one failing to understand how a card works, making up elaborate hypotheticals, and ignoring everything you cant disprove. You have the stink on you; the stink of failure.
>>94748003>a 30 year old Taiwanese puppet soap opera?You're thinking Pili's main series. Thunderbolt Fantasy's first season came out in 2016 and its final season just finished airing, with the finale movie coming out in February. So only ten years of puppets, spanning 51 episodes and two (soon to be three) movies.
>>94747975yee-claw
>>94747975I exclusively deckbuild from the oceans of chaff I have on a table and try to avoid buying cards specifically for decks because that makes them super homogeneous.
>>94748047Go fuck yourself shitposting samefagging faggot.
>>94748048I get where you're coming from, and I don't feel like putting the same staples in every one of my decks, but I think leaving out good cards just because they're good and other people might be running them isn't worth it.Agree to disagree I suppose. I know some people have decks that are the same 70 cards give or take with only 30 different cards between them. That is lame, yes, but I'm not going to begrudge someone for wanting to use staples as a general rule of thumb.Then again, I'm also not going to begrudge someone running pic related either because they don't have or don't want to have to buy better engines.
>>94748108obsessed
>>94748120When he (you) becomes a better poster it will be less of an issue.
>>94748113Oh, I don't do it out of a hipster sentiment so much as I prefer spending my magic cash on boxes of a set I like or on crates of random bulk from thrift shops. It doesn't help that spending $40 on a half-dozen copies of generically useful shit like Blasphemous Edict or Fell the Profane makes my eyeballs shrivel up and fall out of my skull.
>>9474782640k in Magic is insanely cringe and gay, and I say that as a 40k playerDnD & LotR are fine but not ideal
>>94747827>lich king commander>jaina proudmoore commander>frostmourne artifact>the dark portal enchantment>scourge creatures
>>94748033>the puppets are so popular they have spin offsJesus.Or wait is it just a different puppet show?So could I do that series without any previous Pili knowledge?
>>94745027>greasy autismo in formal commander night>picks his nose when he thinks we're not looking, puts his finger in his mouth regularly>plays this as commander>super relieved when he doesn't pick me to controlIs there any commander you just hate even if it's not broken or anything?
>>94748131take your own advice
>>94747827>>94748187>inb4 its just reskins>Arthas as The Scarab God>Froustmourne is Unscythe Killer of KingsAnd yes they would make it so that they have different color identities and cant be in the same commander deck with Arthas at the helm
Man building on a budget is so tough>"Okay, TCGPlayer time, $25 budget, no treating myself with foils unless it's my 1 pet card for the deck, no sellers that don't have free shipping, let's go">"Ooh, $2 showcase of [card with art I like not relevant to my deck]! I've been looking for that.">"Oof, guess I'll have to add another seller, they don't have [token for card I need] or [extender for deck].">"Oh wait, can't forget about my cheap duals, [x] [y] and [z]!">"Wait what do you mean my cart total is $43 without shipping tax?"Sigh... every time...
>>94748196I wish I played with randos enough to know more "annoying ones" Run into this guy a few times and he's never been broken, but always incredibly annoying.
>>94748231Its a pain. I buy so many extra cards I'll probably never use just to get to 5 dollars for free shipping for the two cards I spent 3 hours looking for a shop that had both which I really wanted.
>>94746798Your friends has discovered being competitive is more fun then just doing whatever you want. It is like listening to someone mashing buttons in a fighting game complaining about their friend learning the moves to best perform in the game. Or someone playing a FPS game complaining about their friend learning the map to best perform in the game. The person learning how to play the game and optimize the deck is having more fun then the person who isn't. You should try to get on their level and find the enjoyment in it instead of dismissing what everyone around you thinks. Blaming a boogy man for rotting away their mind instead of seeing you are being left behind and need to catch up.
>>94748190Yes, you can do it without any previous Pili knowledge. Urobuchi Gen fell in love with the style, and he approached Pili to do a standalone show. They enthusiastically agreed. TBF is written by Gen, with character designs by Nitroplus, while the puppets are crafted and performed by Pili. Voices are then dubbed by Japanese VAs. The writing and voice acting are both leagues above Pili's usual because of this.There are a few blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameos from other Pili characters in the first movie, but nothing that actually detracts from anything if you don't recognize them.If you're going to torrent, go for ShamiSubs for everything before Season 3, then go for the DeepestBlue subs for Season 3 and the Seven Blasphemous Subs for Season 4.
I think I'm just going to sell all my cards that aren't in mono black.
>>94748269I would like to make a big butts deck one time, but not in mono white.
>>94747876I don't get it did I or did I not have to play a spell (progress my board state) in order to pay my taxes>>94747882>double the effect>and an additional one to bootYou quite literally cannot just dismiss this card
>>94748269Exactly this. He's a crab in a bucket upset his friends are having more fun than him and improving faster than he is.
>>94748324The angle at which she’s holding the spear doesn’t really work for using it as a paddle. The haft would have to phase through her body for that to work.
>>94748274NTA, but I downloaded the first movie to watch after finishing season 1 and I recall there being some advice on which subs are good, which you just wrote down. Cheers.
>>94748280how do you even go about selling your cardsspent all day organizing and looking up prices for these shits, I just want them gone
>>94748320>I don't get it did I or did I not have to play a spell (progress my board state) in order to pay my taxesYou did, but because you paid the tax you now have less mana to either play something else on your turn or have something to play in reaction before it comes back to your turn. Paying the tax or letting the person draw but puts you overall all behind.
>>94748338she’s preparing to slam it butt-first into her butthole
>>94748342https://www.cardkingdom.com/sellcart
>>94748342I've sold stuff before to cardkingdom just to avoid ebay bullshit. Just gotta package stuff to them just like they send them to you.
Hey Anons. Does anyone have a solid Azorius decklist they'd be willing to share (Power 7-8 ish). Not overly familiar with these colours and pretty new to magic, but I want to surprise my mate at work with a late Christmas present and I know he has a fondness for Blue/White.I dunno if the colours can pull it off, but something a bit aggressive would be ideal.
>>94748527Bruna, Light of Alabaster maybe? I've never played it or seen it played myself but it seems suitable for a simple blue-white voltron deck
>>94748274Thanks anon I think once I'm burned out on toku I'm gonna give the martial arts puppets a try
>>94747240people whine non stop about rift.I'm not gonna stop running it in every blue deck.
>>94747564The fuck is PlayEDH?
>>94748620
Do you ever run your deck through ideal-land-count calculators? This one says my deck only needs 33 lands when I had it at 38, but it also says I need 15 of each color symbol and I only had 12 and 13. Shitload of utility lands.
>>94748659Link? I'd like to check it out
>>94746848Blue? I'm a White mage. 28 mono white decks and counting. And I WILL Farewell you until you can't play the game.
>>94748706>28 mono white decks and countingWhat a boring man you are
>>94748638rift is far superior to farewell dont even pretend otherwise
>>94748741Didn't say it wasnt. That's how people react to it though.
>>94745239why must "they" insist on making all women -tranny face -fug this is almost Radha teir
>>94748752>why must "they" insist on making all women -tranny faceThat's just what black women look like, sorry man.
>>94748752You think that looks like a man?
>>94748774if you don't think so, we have to revoke your penis.
>>94746019That would be hell. Sex would be fun, but everything else would be hell.
>>94748787I don't think its good to paint women with broad strokes, but yeah, most girls before age 27 are... A hassle in my personal experience.
>>94748706>WILL Farewell
>>94748752Just use the other Thalias if you think it's shit dude. Bitch has like 10 other printings already. I can't believe they're even bothering with another one.
>>94748741No, are you fucked?
>>94748706This is based. I could be you, but I've disassembled many decks. I would like to see your Norika list brother. I've been brewing her for a few months now.
>>94748828Rift is better in gameplay terms because Instant + asymmetrical means it just wins when you cast it
>>94748752That's Mina Harker though.She isn't meant to look like Thalia. That's why they made the distinction.
>>94748722>What a boring man you areI like to explore the color to its fullest. Storm, Equipment, Stax, Combo, Enchantress, Artifact, Tokens, Voltron, Aristocrats, Control, Super Friends, Group Hug, Mill, and Tribal in a single color. Still looking for a good landfall and theft commander to get it to an even 30.>>94748820The original post has Heretic Cathar, not Guardian of Thraben.
>>94748752The Thalia on the left has fetal alcohol syndrome, which I guess any inbreed retard from the south would find attractive>>94748820Meanwhile, this one just looks like a beautiful European woman, no weird facial deformities.
So what is the joy of pubstomping? I get it might be fun at first but it'd feel like I'm Manny Pacquiao challenging casual boxers after a while.
>>94748839My Norika deck is a Sagas enchantress deck. Not many people like playing against it because it's pretty grindy. I've had more people leave the game because of that deck than most of my other ones. I'll post it if you are still interested knowing that caveat.
>>94748897Yeah, that's not a problem, I probably wouldn't build it like that so go ahead.
>>94748846Nothing is destroyed or removed. You can just replay everything after cyclonic rift you disengenuious faggot.
>>94748891No one really pubstomps, it's an urban myth to justify budgetfagging.
>>94748911I don't know about you, but I won't have the mana to recast my entire board at the point as rift will go off.Plus whatever counters or tokens I lost as well. So, there's all those lost and all the shit I will probably have to discard if I don't have reliquary out
>>94748928>No one really pubstomps>Go to and LGS with a buddy we had never been to before for a casual edh night.>First game at every table was just playing with people who were regulars.>First game at the table was them all play CEDH decks to "test us out" with our jank decks,Nah, its a thing. Its rarely as nefarious as people make it out to be, but its a thing.
>>94748928Idk I met two before.>Both nerdy looking Asian dudes >Always said "your deck needs more interaction" when he was going off>Either had a repeatable counterspell or constant boardwipes that prevents us from playing anything >Someone sat down and said "I'm trying out a precon" and they immediately light up
>>94748664>>94748659>>94748664Seems to be this from a google.https://mtg.cardsrealm.com/en-us/tools/land-calculator
>>94748939That's not pubstomping, you just didnt bring a strong enough deck to play with the regulars.>>94748951That may be pubstomping, but repeatable counterspells ans boardwipes arent that strong.
>>94748931Yes, compared to having your entire board exiled, it seems like rift is much easier to recover from.
>>94748982Except that rift is 9/10 a finisher not a board equalizer.
>>94748986Depends on a variety of factors, but if someone has enough mana to cast it, it should win the game and you should see it coming.
>>94748939>>No one really pubstomps>Nah, its a thing. Its rarely as nefarious as people make it out to be, but its a thing.I feel like it's usually unintentional. Powerlevels are a meme and being able to judge/balance both deckbuilding and play skill is exceedingly difficult. Against my regular group I'm a fucking menace, I consistently destroy them. My winrate is way too high and they're terrified of even my jankiest jank pile. But against the dudes at my LGS, who are by no means CEDH, I get my ass handed to me regularly.
Modern Magic art is so funny sometimes. This is suppposed to be some kinda nightmarish hellscape but it just looks like he's about to get a diaper change
>>94748628it's the way most people play commander online
>>94748752I want to do nasty anal with the brown girl while Thalia watches.
>>94748563You wouldn't happen to have a list for her laying around would you.
I like this beat stick
>>94748706Who are the alt art ones?
>>94749012Never heard of it.
>>94749012There's a large amount of players, but probably just as many pubbing it on Spelltable alone.>>94749086It's a discord server that has a matchmaking feature for users. I got banned from it for having something in my profile.
>>94748910Pic>>94749080Which one's? The top one is Oketra and Balan, the one in the second row is Lin Sivvi, the third row is Norika and Ao dawn sky, in the bottom row there is the Wandering Rescuer, Nadaar, and Giada.
>>94748828/edhg/ is so fucking retarded, no way you are real
>>94749007I appreciate recent attempts to make hand-painted (looking) cards like in the dominaria reboot but it doesn't always either look good or sovlful like Amy Weber cards
>>94749151Go on then, state your business so we can fast forward to mocking you.
>>94748741farewell is worse.
>>94749100>I got banned from it for having something in my profile.what was the thing in your profile anon
>the instant speed asymmetric sweeper is "worse" than the sorcery speed one that hits all of your permeants https://youtu.be/L8XbI9aJOXk?si=RfdjrRAzbxB8gyeS
>>94749181Yes.
>>94749158>>94749160rift is better than farewell you contrarian faggots, i wont even bother explaining why because it makes me lose brain cells to explain something so obvious
Anyone got a Millicent, Restless Revenant deck list that isn't just a half-assed precon upgrade?
>>94749209Your opinion has been noted and discarded. Shoo, adults are talking.
>>94748889To me Thalia looks like an angry cat in that version
>cyclonic rift>wipes all boards but yours>farewell>wipes all boards>somehow retards do not understand this>somehow cyclonic rift is not seen as a game winning card to themYou have to be 13 years or older to play Magic the Gathering
Farewell is the better card in every situation when you are behind while rift is best when you can actually leverage the advantage of keeping your board.
you guys are silly
these thalias got me thinking, sexiest woman card?
>>94749241Go fuck yourself fagboy.
>>94749225You're not very bright, are you?
>>94749209Depends on the deck. I'd rather get hit by cyclonic rift in my artifact/graveyard/enchantment deck.
>>94749241I AM SILLY
>>94749244That's completely up to personal opinion.Id smother a baby to lick Saheeli's neck.
>>94749244Not even close
>>94749268Is this azorius or dimir?
>>94749176"At least I'm not a furry"
>>94749325based
>>94749323That's red.
Rift is the most nigger card in magic, and Rhystic faggot is a closet second
>>94747564Why is the MTG community filled with such soft lefty faggots? It feels like this game got hit with that kind of culture harder than other properties.I support banning him just because I hate universes beyond, even if its for a property I like.
>>94749377Yes, you've said that multiple times. Got any more hot takes chief?
>>94749384Piss off blue chud
>Bitching about Rift>Start replacing it with River's Rebuke and picrel>NO NO NOT LIKE THATFags are never happy.
1-10 how good is this actually? idk if its worth it
>>94749393I dont think I will. What are you going yo do about it? Whine?
>>94749406Way better in non-Commander formats.
>>94749403I run mostly artifact based decks. I will much prefer this to rift.
>lgs owner banned all leylinesgetting really fucking tired of this guy
>>94749435Why though?But yeah, store bans is pretty faggy.
>>94749435stores that do bans deserve to go out of business.
>>94749435Post their banlist please anon
>>94749435Which leylines are even playable in edh? Most of them are ridiculously shit and wouldn't even make the cut in a commander precon powerlevel deck
>>94749504I run Leyline of the Guildpact in my Reaper King deck. Think its only been on the board 2 times in 50 games at the start, but its still nice to have all the color check scarescrows to have their bonuses.
>>94749377Rhystic and Remora are peak bluegroid cancer and I hope they get banned next.
>>94749406It's basically card 101, just doesn't make the cut unless you have a token strategy or a discard strat.
>>94749504I use Leyline of Combustion/Lifeforce/Punishment/Abundance in BelloGuildpact is for 5 color Ramos to insta charge him
>>94749435Are there other stores you can go to? I would never tolerate store bans myself.
>>94747595I use average turns-to-win if nothing stops your deckUnder 6 is tuned/high powerUnder 7-12 is standardAnything above that is jank
>>94749739I think consistency and resilience are equally as important as speed in determining power level. If you're deck can win turn 5 but can't set up that situation regularly, or is trivially stopped from doing so in an archenemy situation or with a well placed removal spell it isn't actually that great.
>my mail still hasnt arrivedFucking mail faggots. I hate them so much...
>>94745175all benders are just blue/red/green
>>94745175Canonically airbenders being white makes no fucking sense because their entire philosophy was about freedom not order.But WotC probably don't care. They made white chromatic dragons white because color and ice, even though they're chaotic evil in the PHB
>goldfishing Kami>Brainsurge, crack a fetch, Mystic Sanctuary the Brainsurge back on topThat felt so good I don't care about being sweaty enough to run fetches in monocolor.
>>94749504Leyline of anticipation is reasonable in a deck that wants to hold mana up for abilities anyways
>>94749504I want to make pic related work but I just can't. Always end up cutting it. If you're running tribal that depends on seeing this in your opening hand or in the first 4 turns, then like 89% of the time your deck isn't going to work very well. You could tutor for it early but there's better tutor targets, and you probably won't be able to afford casting it same turn you tutored.Idk, I love the concept, but it needs to be on a commander.
>>94746058Koll Aristocrats had a cEDH bout. The goal is to get a sac outlet, a free-to-cast creature, and and equipment cost reduced to 0 and continually sac and re-equip. Also Skullclamp shines in particular here, especially with a Purestrel Paladin or Bladehold Lore Whip on the field.It died off because, despite the layered and highly interchangeable combos (read: you can draw into them naturally due to density of combos), they were all 2 card + commander requiring a board state, which the meta has moved away from. Dockside ban was the final nail in the already rotten coffin though. You could easily build one that could play at a normal FNM event.
>>94745882>sign up and get random pairingsNever seen a store I've gone to do this. All the stores I've gone to leave it up to you to find a game once you're in and fill in where you can.
>>94747213I built my deck for me to play with, not for you to play with.It's just the gayest shit ever. I come from YuGiOh, and stealing 1 card here or there is not unheard of, but it's usually something game ending. You pop your opponents 4000/4000, steal it and swing for game. In Magic they seem to have built an entire archetype to facilitate just getting to rummage through my hand or deck and take whatever the fuck you want with no definitive win condition. It's terrible.
I'm gonna bake new in time for the Europeans to wake up
>>94747975I usually build things out of bulk and cut cards from other decks that work with the commander I'm planning and slowly upgrade as I play that deck. A few times I've found I don't really like the deck after getting a rough idea of how it plays and this helps stop before I put too much time into something I don't actually like much.
>>94750335>>94750335>>94750335
>>94748285Rasaad may help. He's got background so you can add an extra color to support and it's flexible enough that you can go in multiple different ways with it.
>>94748911you don't get a turn to redeploy idiot. that's the point of it being an instant
