Previous: >>94766925>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://mtglands.com>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Will you be building anything from Innistrad Remastered?Bonus question: How would you feel about EDH precons being printed for remastered sets?This is not a Wizards market survey
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>>94773467>TQI would be fine with more commander decks, as long as they stop making cards you can only get in those decks or collector boxes. They also need to get off their ass and make five cheap mono colored decks to use as learning tools.
>>94773467>Will you be building anything from Innistrad Remastered?Nope>How would you feel about EDH precons being printed for remastered sets?I think it would be a great way for them to get creative with precons, being able to pull from a lot more set mechanics.
when they do Universes Within for lotr are they going to make Aragorn white
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>94773543the UW version (which will not happen) will be set on an Africa inspired plane and make him White
I don't think the Wildsear, California Wildfire deck is gonna go down well tonight lads
my hot take is that californians deserve to burn
>>94773485I would build a deck around that
Is it worth it?Should I work it?
>>94773543The cards designed to pander to the Japanese market like OPs pic will. Westerners will keep getting darkies.
>>94773672Unless you can cheat it out 9 mana for a do nothing on its own win more artifact is ridiculous even in the jankiest of edh.
>>94773673New Tree of Perdition looks like they literally just stole YuGiOh art and I love it. The rest of the anime art treatments are pretty garbage tho. Looks more Korean style than Japanese
>>94773467>TQ:I wanted to make a Varina zombie deck so there's a few things that have caught my eye for the 99.>Bonus:Still really new to the hobby, so more precons still seems pretty neat (soon I'll be jaded/smart enough to just buy singles and it won't matter).
You live in a civilized world. You partake in a hobby that you most certainly need a job to engage in.Yet you play blue like a subhuman mongrel.Why?
>>94773685>animeslop>(You) "Garbage, looks Korean.">animeslop with a little girl in it>(You) "I LOVE IT BASED BASED BASED!"
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>>94773742Second best aesthetics (behind Black). Red is gay, Green is pretty cool and White seems lame as fuck, but probably is pretty cool if I actually bothered to look at their cards.
>>94773754>Appearances are most important!Yes yes. I'm just you look fly in your air force ones while eating bunless hotdogs and mustard.
>>94773746It's actually a completely different art style. They've printed "little girl" MtG cards that still look like Korean style art and not Japanese. But talking to people in these threads about art is like talking to people with no sense of smell about perfume.
>>94773673>>94773685sorry weebs. the banger western artworks are reserved to draft chaff normal modern border only these days.
>>94773804>until end of turnThis is the fucking bane of Magic design, I hate it. It should be reserved solely for Instants and appear on nothing fucking else.4 mana for 4 counters at sorcery speed isn't even that good, but then to make vigilance until end of turn? Just fucking cut that line and make it a 3 mana card. Or let it be 4 +1/+1s and 1 vigilance counter.
work in progress boros deck. anything obvious I'm missing in regards to card draw with the requirement being permanents need to have an activated ability? I'm starting to hunt for scraps on scryfall.
>>94773467>Will you be building anything from Innistrad Remastered?Commanders? Probably not, might do Liessa if I pull her while I'm looking for staples>Bonus question: How would you feel about EDH precons being printed for remastered sets?Good, they should do it more. Wizards reprint policy is so blatantly anti-consumer and designed to support the secondary market leeches and scalpers.>>94773685Best series of alts primarily by Japanese artists was definitely the Oil Slick prints from ONE, Tyvar and Jor go so FUCKING hard. As for most Yu-Gi-Oh it's definitely gotta be Slinza, if they put this guy on a Dino or Beast card I wouldn't blink twice.>>94773804This art is so fucking good I wish it was on a card playable in any format
>>94773830>Finishers or break through is bad because its not instant speed.Okay.
>>94773830>forgetting Once per Turn and Only as a Sorcery
>start brainstorming for a deck>get stuck in some way>lose interest in it>repeator>build deck>play it a couple times>dismantle ithow do I avoid this? I find it rare keeping a deck while people in my playgroup have decks that have been the same for yearswanted to build pic related because it's easy gruul creatures but I fear it won't last
>>94773742Because interaction is what makes Magic good
>>94773866there is no better way to win than through combat tricks or no u counter/copy spells.
>>94773842The particular card I am talking about is bad at sorcery speed. It isn't even fucking "finisher" or "break through" Not sure what the fuck you're finishing with +4/+4, but here you can have it at instant speed for half the cost.Seedcore is more about +1/+1 triggers, and it's still fucking garbage.>>94773846Those help the game to be less like YuGiOh. Believe me, you don't want to see those limits removed. But a lot of cards have "only as a sorcery" unnecessarily for sure.
>>94773852>how do I avoid this?Play a Generically good commander that can be built in a lot of ways so when you get bored you can rewire instead of dismantle.
>>94773878>No trample>Leaves your creature tapped or lets you kill one attacking creature>Increase fades awayVs>1-4 things get more powerful and stay powerful and have trample and are not tapped out for blocking so you can pressure a board, do damage and get big chunk of damage into another player or take out a few creatures since you're free to attack with all our big dudes since its ALL creatures have vigilance.If you say so.
>>94773878>Card that says "Once per turn">Makes it less like YGO>YGO currently has 90% of cards with a OPT so restrictive another copy of the card shares its OPT with the first card
Always liked Fight as a concept, and it looks like there's enough now to actually make a half decent deck. Picks for who'd be best to helm it?
>have wanted to build a dragon deck for a while>go to LGS, crack some foundations and find a two-headed hellkite in their build bin>decide on Scion of the Ur-Dragon toolbox/reanimator>go to moxfield to check out some lists for inspiration >find one called "Scion Reanimator aka Tutors.dec">click on it>consultation + thoracle combo present Why are people so fucking gay?
>>94773866>>94773742In modern commander, blue has a lot of foolproof ways to win the game or to simplify the game in its favor. In theoretical terms, blue is strictly more interactive than the other colors because it has access to unique forms of interaction, but in practice the commander decks that don't run blue tend to be more interactive and more engaged with their opponents. Partially, this is because the nature of multiplayer narrows the role of counterspells, you don't want to be fully committed to disrupting your opponents because they outnumber you. But mostly it's just because the designers keep printing turbocancer into U and U/X.
>>94774072>In modern commander, blue has a lot of foolproof ways to win the game or to simplify the game in its favorAside from Thorcle, what other foolproof ways does it have? Especially in Mono blue>>94774032currently working on a Gargos Control through fighting deck
>>94773852thats me whenever i try to build an enchantment, be it auras or something other.i always add the same boring synergy pieces each time, building those lists is a boring task already, i cant imagine them being fun to play, so i just accept my deep rooted hatred for Enchantress
>>94774032slinza can also work as a fight commander since it fights whenever it or another creature with power 4 enters the field. it's also in gruul, so you could fit in neyith in the deck, or make a neyith deck and put slinza in.
>>94774077>Aside from Thorcle, what other foolproof ways does it have?>Mechanized production>Laboratory Maniac>Jace Wielder of Mysteries>Twenty-Toed Toad>Mirrodin Besieged>TriskaidekaphileThere are so many alt-wins in mono blue that are, while not 100% easy to do as Thorcle as pretty damn easy with blue's ability to manipulate the game
>>94773878>Believe me, you don't want to see those limits removedYou can Kind of feel it arena, sure not tapping yourself etc saves a lot of time but most of my games last no longer than 5 minutes
>>94774132I agree it probably has the most alt wincons, but would you really say they are "foolproof ways to win the game?" What about the other colors alt wincons, a few white ones come to mind that would be about as easy to trigger as most of these listed. I feel like Blue would have an easier time just winning through tempo with their efficient counters and disruption.
>Don't have my mana fixed yet.>Have to filter my mana from sol ring through a charm and 2 other filterlands to cast shit.Feels fucking bad man.
>>94774204How many colors are you running?
>>947742143
>>94774147I can't really think any white combo that can pull a turn 2 win as reliably as Thoracle can.
>>94773742>civilized worldpffffffffffft
>>94773852>build "easy" commanders that require zero investment, creativity, or effort to build>surprised when they're not fun to play90% of the format is self expression and you're not trying to express yourself in your deckbuilding
>>94774225I agree, but I already stated "aside from thorcle"
>>94773878>giant shoeless faeriestay winning footfags
>>94774204at least you thought of and have a way to pull that off.might be survivorship bias at play here
>>94774237If you want to play exclusively at shit tier tables, sure.
>>94774265>he plays the singleton roleplay format competitivelyshiggy diggy
>>94773797If you think the new trees of perdition look good you have no place to talk about art
>>94774237unfortunately those decks lose after the second game because everyone else where I play has popular commanders and plays them in a straight and uninteresting way:>ur dragon>krenko>breya>derevi>tatyova>meren
>>94774273Why play any game without wanting to win?Sorry, I'm not going to play some literal who simic commander when I can just play Kinnan
>>94774260>survivorship biasI don't know what that means
>>947738784 mana for 4 counters is top tier rate and an added effect to boot is really good. It's not a bad cards at all might go in my gargos deck
>>94774132>Felidar Sovereign (accomplished at game start)>Approach of the Second Sun (trivial in any deck)Fellows is white the most OP color?
>>94774283nobody is stopping you playing Kinnan retard, just don't play uninteresting, overplayed commanders and then complain about being unsatisfied with your deck
>>94774132over half of these are stopped by doomblade/StP or nature's claim and then you actually lose when you draw from an empty deckThoracle stands out since it's ETB so the only way to stop it is with a counter>>94773878You could have posted an enchantment or other permanent effect to make a case rather than a costlier giant growth, a near unplayable card already
>>94774077Awesome idea! Here's the budget Gargos list that just finally came in the mail. Hes promising to be very fun. We going for primarily creature control or ypu loading it with artifact and enchant removal too https://archidekt.com/decks/10138624/gargos_prio
>>94774278so the issue is that you want to play fun decks and the people you play with want to play high-power netdeckshave you considered playing with someone else?
>>94774204Filter lands tend to not put you down in mana so how is this a problem
>>94774305NTA but recent posts have made me feel like complaining about my pod.>Have a friend who constantly looks down on netdecks>However, his deck just happens to be Kinnan, with no theme, just simic good stuff plies.
My playgroup and I are doing a thing where we build decks for each other, but I'm struggling with commander ideas for the last guy>newish player, has a lot of precons from 40k set onwards>has some complicated decks but pilots them poorly, does best with aggro strategies, but also overplays into boardwipes routinelyMy go to would be a dinofag deck, but he already has one
>>94774339monogreen omnath
>>94774032I love Slinza and really want to build him as a big guy tribal but MAN I wish there were more cards that had "when you fight" triggers and am in fact very surprised there aren't more.
>>94773908>b-b-b-but no twampul!!!! :(Okay.
>>94774032If you're not a huge hater of UB, I honestly think Legolas is a great fight commander, even if he's Monocolored. Also, he's not a woman, if you're into that.
>>94774276Cry more, boomer. I bet you like those garbage old frames and you're already leaking a little pre-cum thinking about spending thousands of dollars cracking Innistrad Remastered to collect them so you can cling to nostalgia in a way your scalp failed to cling to your hair
>>94774320To be fair, Simic goodstuff is one of the easiest piles to slap together.
>>94774339Voltron.
>>94774278>urdragonLiterally a garbage deck that doesn't come online til t5>krenkoYou know he's coming have removal lmao>breyaNot very strong >dereviAnnoying>TatyanaAnnoying but easy to deal with>merenExile her graveyard?None of these are really ridiculous or hard to handle you can definitely still play what you want
>>94774320>player who hates netdecks>builds decks by scrolling the first page of EDHrecabsolutely disgusting
>>94774380>he doesn't even try to pretend he actually knows about artWeebs are the worst, of the two of us one person (you) has expressed interest in innistrad lmao
>>94774339the most retarded person I've ever met really likes cascade. Maybe you should build a big dumb cascade deck
>>94774377>elf>not a womanif only you knew
>>94774276If you EVER insinuate art is not subjective then you should never discuss art.
>>94774339some graveyard reanimator deck, so boardwipes wont hit him so hard anymore
>>94774439>HOW DARE YOU SAY MY LOLICON ISN'T GOOD ART DON'T YOU KNOW IT'S SUBJECTIVE YOU SHOULD NEVER DISCUSS ART EVER AGAIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>94774439What a terrible cop out no credible person would agree with what you're really saying here. Subjectivity doesn't mean there isnt standards, and by all artistic criteria it is not very well drawn. You are free to like bad art, because you're right it is subjective, that doesn't save it from being bad though.
>>94774303>We going for primarily creature control or ypu loading it with artifact and enchant removal tooThinking mostly just creature control, the main idea is to make a mono colored deck for a color I don't use that often (Green) and trying to make it budget friendly and then upgrading it if I like the deck and if I don't then not much of a loss money wise, and I enjoy the budget aspect (and mono color aspect) of being pushed to use lesser used cards. I also just think mono green control is a funny idea.
>>94774460YWhy are you discussing art when you have admitted you shouldn't?
Goated card ramp and removal on a card is nice gunna pick up a copy today
>>94774439Art is subjective.But mouthbreathing retards still like bad art and I will call them retarded philistines for it.
>>94774484I wouldn't give any opinion while posting propaganda images.
>>94774439>t. ArtletPreference is subjective, but that's only one part of art. Technique, context, and impact are not.
>>94774488Propaganda generally has really great art doe anon you seem to be floundering because you like bad art but there's no need to no one actually cares
>>94774490Cool. Didn't read. Because your opinion is so dumb that I actually refuse to read the reply.
>>94774478>the murder mystery set>they reveal the mysterious murderer in the trailer WOTC IS SO GARBAGE, GO BANKRUPT ALREADY
>>94774492>generic moe shit for a dying religion is good art
I HATE AETHERDRIFT I HATE IT HATE IT
>>94774494>>94774488>>94774470>>94774439Bro is crashing out over tree of perdition
>>94774494If you didnt read my "opinion" (hint: it's not just my opinion), how would you know if it's dumb?
>>94774496It's not a detective show, you dont need to solve anything go read a book not card games what an absurd complaint lmao
>tripfag is shitposting with his trip off againClassic.
>>94773135>Am i allowed to put in legendary lands that add other mana than my commanders color is?Yes
>>94774520>>94774496But how cool would it have been if they spoiled every card except one? Everything this company tries to do has so much wasted potential. And they keep going all-in on gimmicks when they can't even follow through on a gimmick.
>>94774528In my experience name fags are almost always better than anons. Be the change you want to see.
>>94774539the real thing that's worth getting mad about is that they revealed the murderer in a fucking recap video before the final chapters had been published
>>94774339Akiri with samurai/warriors lots of armor and nahiri Works good enough around boardwipes
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>>94774561Sorry. I've been in numerous threads including this one that goes exactly like this>name fag is on topic and when people contribute, they react positively>later some anon will come in and aggressively attack the same person unprovoked>become surprised people begin prefering the courteous person over the guy who just ran up to shit on them unprovoked.Do less of that and you may get less name support.
We need more anime cards
>>94774583We do not
>>94774577Funny how the shitposting immediately stopped and magically a faggot materialized defending his tripless behaviour. Imagine that.
>>94774583Cards should just be anime by default.
>>94774615One day you'll grow up. I have faith.
>>94774339Hatebears
>>94774635One day you'll realize if you're a productive poster, stopped shitposting with your trip off and stopped doing dumb shit like samefagging and replying to yourself people might actually like you.
Art is not subjective and anime art Perdition is objectively goatedMagic boomers will see the about anime treatments while their game goes to shit through UB
>>94774658Then why was a guy who drew stick figures with marker a massive art guy in the 80's90's?
>>94774658Aspects of art are subjective, new tree art is middling at best, and old tree is one of my most prized cards. I got it in new york at the EM prerelease as my prerelease promo.
>>94774658>wrong on both accounts
>>94773754White is actually fun but like every other good white card has a black person on it and I don't roll with that
>>94774658I'm a magic boomer and I love my jap k4rn/warset, what are you on about?
What are the chances most stuff gets unbanned and it just gets put into the highest tier system that is basically "the cedh tier". I want to rebuild my Arcum deck but I miss paradox engine lines
>>94773673>westernersYou mean poors. Wotc knows what they're doing.
>>94773673Japan needs something considering how extremely depressed and unsure it is about things. Gotta keep them suicide rates under 50%
>>94773852I build decks with little known or weird commanders to do a 'thing' so the deck feels unique.
>>94774713We all miss paradox engine. I seriously doubt it though. The "gold rush" for unbanned cards wouldnt make wotc any money and would cause a predictable giant shitstorm.
>>94774722>I build decks with little known or weird commanders to do a 'thing' so the deck feels unique.You mean to feel like a special snowflake and shit on people who don't want to be unique. Fuck you.
>>94773742I play simic thank you very much good sir
>>94774726>We all miss paradox engineAre you kidding me? That was one of my favorite cuts.
>>94773754You just totally ignore looking at white cards?
>>94774727Almost true it's simply because my tastes are more refined
>>94774733What do you mean?>>94774738Alright, prove it.
>>94774726I am very sure they will reprint coalition victory as some ultra mythic rare bling bling version soon and remove it from the banlist
>>94774730>virgin simic>not bant master race
Goated card
>>94774751God bloomburrow and its consequences were disasterous for the human race. Rafiq and Derevi are the only acceptable bant commanders, and bant is on the lower end of tricolours.
>>94774750I seriously doubt it. They just printed this fucking thing.
>>94774663Money laundering
>>94774726Even anons on here fell for the death threats smoke screen. Normies would lose their fucking minds of too many band were reversed
>>94774751For Christ sake, put a border around text, that shit is unreadable
>>94774773Picaso too?
>>94774770An 8 mana card should win the game.
>>94774779The death threats were coming from inside wotc the whole time?I think they should unban everything and do tierlistsSo if you want to run Mana Crypt, do it in ubers format
>>94774787Artists rarely have anything to do with it. Since the death of realism with photography, the art world has been able to designate anything as fine art, and then they can dump tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, and even millions into buying pieces. The artist is catapulted to instant fame. Dirty money goes in auction, and then they trade the art pieces around like NFTs
>>94774757I have just fully read what the card actually does and I agree, goated card. Decklist? Would like an idea on how to build for my playgroup/meta. I need a mono-black commander and he seems perfect at the moment.
>>94774779There were death threats. Ironically, the only credible proof was from the discord saying that bitch who disagreed with the ban, who was outted by the rc as such when the vote was made public for the first time ever, was the only person recieving them. This went against the narrative that people were unhinged because crypt was banned and was promptly swept under the rug.But yes, you're exactly right. Imagine some of the potatos in this thread reading sunder or sundering titian for the first time, then multiply that exponentially in echo chambers.
>>94774800So art never has existed in history.
>>94774791Anon, are you blind or stupid? That costs only 4.
>>94774757i just dont like voltron commanders and the usual suite of cards that are needed with it.does he require a lot of those or does he work with the bare mininum too?
>>94774779Delusional.>>947747130%
>>947747941. No proof of any death threats.Just saying “it probably happened tho!!” Isn’t good enough. We ought to know whether they were actually threats of death as opposed to ill-wishes, and then judge how credible they were.2. Supposed death threats don’t interfere with the work of the rules committee, which was their stated reason for folding to Wizards. They didn’t do anything for years, they could just have gone back to doing nothing and it would have blown over anyway.3. WotC stepping in doesnt magically protect the RC from harm. The RC is still the ones responsible for the bans, and the bans weren’t undone. Wizards taking over future band doesnt change the situation at all. So the supposed problem and solution don’t align.The reality is that Wizard does care about the secondary market (hence the reserve list), so when the RC did a fucky wucky Wizards decided it was bad for business, have them the boot, and let them claim it was all about hawwassment so they didn’t get even more shit for selling out
>>94774824Art existed before photography.>>94774825Coalition Victory is the 8 mana card dipshit
>>94774834>1. No proof of any death threats.Can you explain why anyone would provide proof?
>>94774787Picaso was a transcedant artist before he decided to intentionally break the rules of art and experiment. The same can be said for Modrain. The problem is normies see this shit and get in a huff because they feel as if they could have made art like that with their capabilities, completely disregarding the pedigree that the artists had in the first place.>>94774800Realism didnt die with photography, the problem was the industrial revolution and the schism between romantic aristocracy-produced representational art, and the rise of capitalists seeking art closer to their life's paraxis, but that's mostly semantics.
>>94774831You have absolutely no reason to pump him because of sulk, just run cards that give him hexproof/protection/shroud/indestructible and you're fine. He doesn't need any extra keywords.
>>94774825Technically the leyline is free, and the 8 mana win the game line was a call back to shitposting from a few threads ago, but it's okay if you dont keep up with the autism.
>>94774834I wont disagree with your conclusion, but you are making the presumption that people act rationally in response to high stress scenarios
>>94774791>one more mana than a pelakka wurm should win in one turn against 3 players with 40 life
>>94774836>Coalition Victory is the 8 mana card dipshitI stand corrected and accept the insult, sorry Anon.
>>94774854Yes. This is hardly controversial.
>>94773673I don't mind japanese-style art of brown people on MTG cards
I'm not a landfall deck but I play a lot of lands because I've got every explosive vegetation clone in it and lots of cascade into them.It's a struggle to fit more than one of these. What tends to be the best?I can power out mana 7+ quickly with the way my deck is built, so Avenger of Zendikar could theoretically come out really early when I only have 6 lands in play so the plant count might be low.I've used Rampaging Baloths in my playtesting but he hasn't been relevant yet. Just tend to hit him by the time the game is ending.
>>94774808It's a decently budget brew I've posted it a couple times https://archidekt.com/decks/10535935/golum all the cards i didn't have finally arrived this week and tomorrow is EDH day so I'll finally get to try it out>fully readYeah even when I started building i was kinda dreading needing to go through hoops to trigger on multiple opponents in a single turn then I re-read it and whew seems like it'll be a fun card. I went a little burstier with the life gain but I got that section of about 8 cards might get the cut or at least some for some more extort or just consistent 1 life gain who knows
>>94773543>whenI think the bigger question is if. By the look of it Universe Within was only for Secret Lair cards and it doesn't seem like anything that got a set is getting one. Shame. I'd have liked some of the Doctor Who stuff in Universe Within.
>>94774831You don't want to swing with gollum more than 3 times a game and you definitely never want him above 1 power anon. I mean I guess you could do a voltrony lifelink thing but it's unnecessary given how easily you can gain life and drain everyone passively
>>94774869Depends on a few factors:>are you running fetches?>are you running exploration?>are you running scapeshift?>what does the rest of the deck try to accomplish?
>>94773467>EDH precons being printed for remastered setsIs this actually happening or is this theoretical?
>>94774839I know what you’re thinking>but if they post proof it just adds more fire to the flames!!So I have a counter question:Can you explain why they would cite it as the reason a 20 year old community institution would sell out to WotC?>>94774853I’m sure they had an entire PR team telling them how to handle it.Look if fucking rando YouTubers can handle “death threats” when they fuck up without completely collapsing I think a group of grown-ass adults in communication with a corporation will be fine
On a semi-related note, isn't this card actually really good? I've never seen anyone using it. If you get him out early, he's attacking as a 13/13 at worst (in my deck at least). If you topdeck him or draw him late, he can be swinging for 25+I get that he could just get removed before he attacks but every creature in my deck is like that.I also get that swinging for 30 damage is overkill when players only have 10 life late in the game, but is it so overkill that it's not worth running it?
>>94774887I don't see why it wouldn't happen
>>94774888You literally did not answer my question and yet expect me to answer one.When the police state they have a suspect, do they show on the news all the evidence and reasons they consider it a suspecT? No one does what you ask. No one is going to give you evidence because it isn't required. You disprove it, not them.
>>94774890That's a 7 mana french vanillia; decidedly not great regardless of how many lands you have.
>>94774658Based and true
>>94774882>are you running fetches?Nope. Just basics.>are you running exploration?No. The only land synergies I have are ~10 explosive vegetation clones and two cards that can fetch basics out of my deck when they attack. I also have several cascade creatures that often cascade into those explosive vegetation spells.I do tend to pull a lot of lands out of my deck very quickly, especially early on, and can pull 3-5 lands out in the mid-late game somewhat inconsistently.>are you running scapeshift?Nope.>what does the rest of the deck try to accomplish?Land ramp into big creatures into swinging for lethal. Fighting and burn to keep shit off the field.
>>94774898Yeah your question is a trap. But I know what your response was going to be and it makes even less sense in the circumstances. >When the police state they have a suspect, do they show on the news all the evidence and reasons they consider it a suspecT?1. RC and WotC are not the police2. No one is asking for all the evidence, they’re asking for any evidence.Don’t you find it remarkable that no one has screenshots of any public death threats? Guess they must have all been private! How curious.3. Yes, in fact police frequently make fucking public announcements in relation to suspects
>>947749181. Correct so why do they need transparency?2. So you can cry it's doctored or it doesn't matter? You literally had people show you proof in the past and you downplayed it3. Not really doe
>>94774859Good
>>94774339The dumbest person in my playgroup loves his Noyan Dar deck
>>94774890Generally for any big creature to be worth you need to be doing twice its power a turn somehow. So fling effects, power matters stuff like doubling its power, or extra combats.
>>94774937Noyan is a high IQ commander your friend is too advanced for you
>>94774941What kind of absurd rule is this lmao
>>94774913In your cast, avenger is the best option. The extra bodies will be larger than baloths on average with the same amount of land drops, and if you arent running fetches or scapeshift or traverse the outlands or whatever Omnath would be underwhelming. If you were, Omnath is much MUCH more powerful.
>>94774937>dumbest person in your group plays a commander I have no idea how to make workIs your pod full of engineers or something?
>>94774937ooooocean mantake me by the handlead me to the landthat you understand
>>94774958It has a trick. You run indestructible lands and inkmoth nexus. It just has a very low ceiling.
I really don't like the idea of Wizards taking over commander. The old RC was fucking awful though. Whats the solution?
>>94774954I didn't say it was a rule anon I'm just saying that I've found big expensive creatures aren't good enough to win games until you start multiplying their numbers somehow. Having lots of lands isn't a good way to amplify that Dino enough to win.
>>94774978RC was infinitely better than having two play choices: Precon ir no ban list cEDH
>>94774965Hey little boy, what you got there?"Kind sir it's a mollusk I found."Did you find it in the sandy ground?Does it emulate the ocean sounds?
>>94774937I might build this guy but is 5 UW decks too many?
>>94774997If you have 2 horseshoe crabs can they untap each other?
>>94775001Nah. I have 5 orzhov decks that all do the same thing in slightly different ways. My pod makes fun of me butt-fuck em. I have fun.
>>94775005According to the oracle, yes? Well that was unexpected.
>>94774937I know when I'm playing UW spellslinger the thing I always end up thinking is "gee, it sure would be helpful if my lands were easier to destroy"
>>94775010Well mine do different things because although we are similar i am in fact slightly cooler but thanks!
>>94775010>my pod makes fun of me butt-fuck emthis is the correct response when people make fun of you.
now this is how i want to play casual
>>94774549nobody has ever said this. reveal yourself tripfag
>>94775066>Not just making themcuck.
>>94775001>I might build this guy but is 5 UW decks too many?5 UWU decks not enough
>working on a "big smash" monowhite artifact deck>6 cards in and it's already $80i need to find a new hobby
>>94775065i could play this and my retarded mouth-breathing pod would still chose to remove it over degenerate bullshit commanders like picrel
I live this stupid thing.
>>94775085well you pic and chose staple slopmay i interest you in some new ways of self-expression? comes at a fraction of a decklist
>>94775085>two premier tutors and the weeb taxNone of thats necessary retardo the card doesn't even have good art
>>94775099I like supporting the game
>>94775107then stop pissing shitting and crying about prices and loosen up for Papa Hasbro
>>94775131No, bitch. Step off before you see the ground.
>>94775107>>94775099This guy isn’t me but I actually do prefer having real cards because then at least I can sell them back at a later time
>Get told deck has too many tutors (3) even though they cost a turn or 3 mana>Use deck without tutors>It's too strong because it doesn't use combat as a winconI'm tired of my store.
>>94775137good thing if you want to take a gamble on making profit, that is if WotC doesnt decide to specifially reprint every single card with a bit of worth in your collection.either way, printing proxies yourself is cheaper than the shipping of your cards
>>94775140my store has a rule where even if your life total hits zero you can't lose unless you've taken at least one point of creature damage from the player who brought you to zero. I thought it would be cringe at first but i'm actually liking it
>>94775106If you're running an equipment based deck, you probably should have a mystic.Enlightened is a bit overboard imho
>>94775085Ya Im like oh well of course Im running smothering tithe and bowmasters and mana drain and deflecting swat , etc etcOh hm my for fun ""precon"" deck is expensive
>>94775066Anon, he was already told to fuck off thoroughly last thread, and again this thread when he tried to be a sneaky tripless shitposter. Currently he's gone, or "quality" posting and either are fine. Be vigiliant, feel free to tell him off, but dont take the obvious bait.
>>94775157>WotC doesnt decide to specifially reprint every single card with a bit of worth in your collection.They did that with every big enchantment in WoE and prices really weren't impacted.
>>94775197Don't reply to yourself dude.
>>94775085>tfw I run cards that cost more than other player's entire decks
>playing in a low power pod>reanimator player plays a mesmeric orb>gruultard starts literally shaking>reanimator player assure him it's not a mill deck, he just wants to fill his graveyard>gruultard untaps 5 lands, sighing heavily>he counts off each of the 5 cards milled>if the milled card is a creature, he complains "I sure wish I could've fucking played that">if he mills a land, "and now I won't hit my fucking land drops!">spends the rest of the game doing nothing but pointing everything at the reanimator player>reanimator player has to point all removal at gruultard to survive>simic player wins because nobody interacted with him all game>gruultard complains that the 7-mana do-nothing enchantment is too strong and needs to be bannedwhy are gruul players like this
>>94775173legally enforced pillowfort meta
>>94775173That's incredibly fucking stupid.
Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
>>94775210really activates the almondshow does it feel to spend exponentially more than others on this game? do you have exponentially more fun too?
>>94775173Stores who make up their own rules should lose WPN status.
>>94775219I'm a gruuling retard and I know that milling has literally no effect on my gameplan because I have no crucial cards. Any card I see in yard is one that may as well have been on the bottom of my deck. In fact maybe I'll draw my recursion and you just gave me draw dear mill player.I think that guy should just quit the game.
>>94775237I win more, so I guess.
>>94775219Mesmeric orb has this effect on a lot of people, myself included and I'm teched to deal with it. But yes, gruul players are universally huge crybabies larping as big strong stompy guys and there's no reason for it. He's playing green, force of vigor or some shit.
>>94775210Such as?The most expensive card I run is pic relThe next most pricey card I run is a the mox opal but I got it before it was unbanned in modern
>>94775237>how does it feel to spend exponentially more than others on this game? do you have exponentially more fun too?A thing people sometimes seem to assume is any expensive deck was bought at its priciest possible, and the player bought every card. I have numerous expensive cards that I either bought when they cost nothing, or opened from a prize pack. I have a deck at around 900 dollars because some SLD cards just shoot up to 20 times their value for no reason.
>>94775173>No more than one counter spell per deck for non-competitive play>Proxies are allowed and encouraged.>We allow proxies in CEDHI only shop there, never play.
>>94775236>now that the dust is settledliterally nothing happened
>>94775257Statistically, you are in the minority.
>>94775264You don't actually know this, anon.
>>94775269a majority of EDH players started playing in the last 5 years, retard
>>94775258House rules aren't a terrible idea if they aren't just fucking stupid and random. Like "hey can you stop running a full suite of free counters and rhystic mystic in every single one of your decks when you're playing against precons" is very different from "yeah green can't play rampant growth".
>>94775261funny how nothing happend in the long run but the RC just had to do an hero regardless. they could've just went back into their command zone and wait for the shitstorm to pass before announcing another ban in 7 years.
>>94775237Feels pretty good. I spent years slowly acquiring cards as a poorfag, collecting a massive pile of edh staples, and eventually trading them in for a mox diamond and a grim monolith among other things. Sometimes you lose and trade $80 surgical extractions for $200 back to basics only to see it reprinted and crater. Got my crypt for $60 when it was first reprinted (rip), got a good job and picked up a transmute artifact. Finally got my foil 7th edition static orb last year for my birthday, just bought a null rod for myself for christmas. I have a great time, but the best part was the experience of slowly building up my best deck from an expensive but bad pile to a cohesive foiled out tournament winning monster.
>>94775232sorry loser but your infinite card draw sheoldred combo does NOT work in this store
>>94775257>mfw building on a budget doesnt allow for certain cards i have in my collection because time has turned them from single digit cent bulk to multiple dollars rarities
>>94775269Explain the economics on most players pulling cards and then keeping them but also there's a high enough demand for them to be expensive anon.
>>94775286Yeah, so did I, retard. Cabin of the dead was released in a 2023 SLD that cost 40 dollars. It now costs Over 100 USD in foil. Same goes for numerous other desired SLD cards. And I saw a person pull a 500 dollar card from a pack.
>>94775257Are you me? I tell that lie to anyone who asks me as well when I play my deck full of $1 chinese proxies which would cost $$$ from another printer.
>>94775290my guess is that sheldon was the one autist that insisted on keeping the RC alive and the remaining members were eager for an excuse to kill it
>>94775317It's objectively true anon. You don't need to same fag.
>>94775256We postan? We postan. This might not be my most expensive card, but it is my most prized.
>>94775243The cope around mill is hilarious and does not hold up to scrutiny in the realms of reality>no crucial cardsThen you've built a shitty deck, no pride here.>may as well have been...Except it objectively and probably wasn't, it was the next card you would draw and now its gone there is no mystery or unknown here, you lost the card that was milled and it would have been the next one you drew.>recursionCool so now you need to use a card just to recover and we are coping and calling this "drawing" which is somehow a bonus when you would have simply...... drawn it next were you not milled.
>>94775319It's this. Most have little involvement in the game now and a lot only stuck around because they didn't want to betray the memory of Sheldor (which they did the second they faced even an ounce of community scorn.)
I think it's a good thing that wizards is running commander and I hope they start banning cards more aggressively. Count your days rhystic study
>>94775309Budget means what you spent not what they're worth
>>94775334Most are just going to ignore WOTC anyway.
>>94775334Nah. No reason to listen to the loud collective of bad opinions after the erronious crypt fiasco.
>>94775340>Budget means what you spent not what they're worthNo.
>>94775326oooh that is spicy. I dont even need to check TCG player to know thats crazy expensive. All the foils from 7th are expensive. I have a couple because I played a bit around 7th. I have a static orb but its not foil.Dabbing on people with a foil salt card from 7th is pretty peak ngl.
if you're going to brag about "cards that cost more than your deck", people assume you have actually valuable cards, not a secret lair foil reprint of a budget card.And you think $100 costs more than people's decks? precons total out to more than that dipshit
>>94775330>mill player makes me mill 10>lose 10 lands>next card i draw is jeska's will>were it not for the mill player I would have been stuck in a land patch the entire game
>>94775219Seething over mill is the biggest giveaway that someone is either new or just plain braindead.
>>94775350>chimp out because your cardboard is back to being worth its production cost>get a home visit by some friendly chaps with funny hats
>>94775173LOL.LMAO.This is so god damn funny.
>>94775383i wish anon told us the store so i could visit one time just to play a turbonaus deck
Mill 75 please.
I don't have the "free shrugs" image saved but you get the ideaRhystic study isn't that bad (in terms of interrupting the game flow) if you're playing with smart people. They'll either tell you in advance no I'm never paying / yes I'm always paying, or it will depend. And that will streamline throughAs for how much value it brings in, just fucking remove it. It's an enchantment. Every color now has tools to deal with it. Some value engines are just removal checks. Too bad. If you run rhystic, understand you have 3 opponents who are going to dig for removal or hard target you. You bring it on yourself
>>94775256>>94775326My decks got this cheap italian piece of shit.Its also 'damaged' because theres a weird indent in the back from a coin.I wanted a very cheap chains is what Im saying.
>>94775359Anon, I just posted my static orb. Relax.>>94775356Thanks buddy. In my country it took like 5ish years to find it because foil 7ths are impossible to sell for the average store, and the big retailers dont get them very often because the people who have them dont want to sell. Eventually I caved, bought it from some big american retailer, paid a shitload in currency conversion and import fees, and waited over a month to be delivered. The most expensive card I ever owned was a signed foil seb art stasis test print that I sold for $500ish a while back. I cant even imagine how much it's worth now, doubt you could even google it.
>>94775359>My assumptions were wrong you fucking idiot!lmao
>>94775330>you lost the card that was milled and it would have been the next on you drewyeah, are you going to piss your pants because you're missing out an an alternate-universe version of the game or are you going to take your fucking turn?
>>94775362>anon is bad at deckbuilding>this makes mill good for you
>>94775392Rhystic isn't good someone tell CEDH, first guy to realize it's bad's gonna make bank.
>>94775397I saw you post that a while back. Fucking sexy, I'm quite jealous. Chains ans Djinn are two cards I really want to own, but doubt I ever will. Same with the $3k foil grim monolith to complete my deck, but that's another matter entirely.
>>94775391Peer into the Abyss is one of my all time favorite cards
>>94775404I don't care about mill anon :) my favorite deck right now is my mindskinner deck. Your reasoning is simply flawed, parading as logical while ignoring reality. Mill is frustrating and that's good, that's precisely what it's intended to be!
>>94775414how do you profit off of a card being bad?
>>94775412Mill scales with deckbuilding you're so right anon, this is why mill tops CEDH tournaments. I always let my opponents resolve their demonic consultations (they are removing all their good cards from the game, what idiots)
>>94775416Thanks anon. One of the few cards I ever wanted to own and never get rid of so I'll share it whenever I can.Next is an Abyss ten years or so down the line probably
>>94775330Cope or seethe or whatever.
>>94775423Everyone else is so dumb they think it's good, easy wins anon.
>>94775420It is my primary wincon in my main deck. Love that card.
FYI for anyone who's been looking to pick up a coat of arms the price is dropping like a rock. $40 a week ago, $16 for NM foils today
>>94775431>abyssGreat taste. I'd like a nether void too, but my foil trinisphere does a pretty good interpretation.
this card's so fucking bad but i managed to draw two cards from it in a game so i can finally let it rot in bulk until my house catches on fire
>>94775428I know you're joking, but this is the tech. You wait for thoracle to resolve, deck themselves with consultation or pact, and consign the trigger whatever number of times you feel necessary. Three times leaves flusterstorm as the only out.
>>94775398>The most expensive card I ever owned was a signed foil seb art stasis test print that I sold for $500ish a while back. I cant even imagine how much it's worth now, doubt you could even google it.unironically priceless lol
>>94775428You should try responding to what people actually say instead of immediately jumping into hysterics anon ^.^
>>94775452it'll keep dropping. They printed a much less annoying to play version and people are flocking to it
>>94775500Yeah, might be one of the most expensive non-power, non-misprint cards in existence. It had a white back, but it was on real cardstock through wotc printers and I got it from that playmat kickstarter 100 years ago. I didnt mean to sell it, it was part of a huge bulk sale and I was pretty drunk in the middle of a draft, but hey shit happens.
>>94775414Holy reading comprehension batmanNowhere did I say it's bad.More just shrugging at people that think it should/will be banned
>>94775553I think Rhystic being banned would be a bit of a red flag for the direction WotC intends to take the format in.
>>94775566well it would be in their best interest to start banning powerful cards a year or 2 after introducing them to make people buy the newest powerful cards instead
>>94775566Yup. It would coincidentally mean the much prophecized death of legacy at their hands as well. But if Inwas a betting man, it's a 1:5000 style chance, about the odds of my beloved redskins winning the superb owl this year.
>>94775553>blue midrange dominating format>players mull for rhystic fish and there are stack battles to resolve it>if multiple hit the board it's just a casino to see who draws into a win during the next game-ending stack battle
>>94775553Rhystic isn't going to be banned from the higher tiers, but it is associated with a higher power level of the game, so I could definitely see it getting banned in one or more of the tiers.That is, if the tier thing ends up happening at all
>>94775530What card?
No one is going to use tiers
>>94775590
>>94775612Pretty sure that's only being used in the top deck in standard, though it does seem marginally better floor than coat.
>>94775605my playgroup are going to try to build 1 deck in each tier and see how the power levels work out.
>>94775630>marginally better floor than coat of armsyou surely don't understand how low the floor on coat of arms is
>>94775630coat of arms can backfire on you if your opponents are also running tribal wide decks, banner only affects your creaturesthat's why it's superior
>>94775605I will. 4 tiers of cedh sound pretty fun.
>>94775645I dont play tribal decks and figured if you're wiped, you're already in the dumpster.>>94775647Well shit, fair enough. Thanks for explaining it.
>>94775650>I don't like commander at all as it isWhy do you play?
>>94775661with coat of arms if you get wiped you get fucked yes, with banner you can start rebuilding fast because everything you summon comes in with like +5/+5 at least
>>94775585I remember cedh people calling for it to be banned so itd be funny if in wotcs tiers they kept it out of tier 4 but also out of the lower 1 or 2.
>>94775679Not to mention proliferate.
>>94775666I love commander. I've played since alara-ish. I'm just a spike, and I play with spikes and ex-judges. I think the format would be a lot more fun if the pretentions of accessibility were discarded; edh is a horrible place to learn how to play magic. There would be a lot fewer arbitrary and silly complaints about card power if the relative power of each tier was established based on the top decks.
>>94775741The thing you are missing is that if said tier idea goes through with no option to not play it, then you will never again play commander as it is. Many of us have no interest in a change of the game. I am not going to be forced to play in tiers because that isn't what I built my decks and spent thousands on.Tiers will fail because people want to play current commander. Not special "CEDH ONLY" commander which is what most of you seem to think it'll be.
>it's another episode of "uh, ACK!tually Rhystic Study isn't even good!"
>>94775758It is good.The only actual reason anyone wants it banned is because they hate "Pay the 1?" being said.
>>94775755the obvious solution is that the modern banlist would be left as one of the tiers
>>94775738true but not every deck has it and in theory it also means it's vulnerable to counter removal or counter prevention so I'd honestly rate it neutral all together, since a lot of tribes don't really have that much proliferate supportjust the fact that it doesn't buff your opponents tribes and allows you to rebuild much faster is what makes it better, at least for me
are there really people who believe any tier sets won't be done to maximize profit for WotC rather than for any playability?
>>94775741>edh is a horrible place to learn how to play magicstandard, modern, and legacy are pretty much at the same power level now so getting someone into 60 card would still require using a simple, kneecapped deck against them
>>94775765actually we want it banned because it fucks with the pacing of the game and extracts value disproportionate to it's cost
>>94775766This doesn't solve anything. Your shitty Phage deck will be tier 4 due to demonic tutor, and you'll never play it again because you either have to play it non-functioning or play it vs decks it cannot compete with.The folly of the entire idea is this view of cards in a vacuum.
I've never once played a game with rhystic study in play in my entire life and I still spend a lot of time arguing on here that it should be banned. You cant stop me
>>94775774Playability means profit you stupid fucking nigger
>>94775780>extracts value disproportionate to its costGoodbye 90% of playable cards lmao>>94775785Except that is not true! 1 card does not make it that tier they literally explicitly stated this in the stream months back
>>94775787It's funny several of those aren't dreamworks and one of the actual dreamworks isn't really doing the face (Shrek)
>>94775788literally every single gacha proves you dead wrong on that whale fishing is what means profitnow you can fuck this up but this is WotC we're talking about, remember how they celebrated their anniversary
>>94775785>your shitty phage deck is non-functional and cannot compete against other deckshow is that any different than current EDH?
>>94775774It's always the most economically illiterate people that say this. Explain 1. how and 2. how it's any different from all the other formats
>>94775799>gachas are incredibly playable>and therefore they make profitsHow on earth do you think this is an argument in your favour lmao
>Play with a set table of four people for two years>Keep track of victories>One of my friends has more victories by a wide margin>One day shows up with a warhammer precon>Winrate drops drastically>Still continues to only play precons because he likes the cool warhammer cardsHe has become enlightened
>>94774997There has to be some infinite combo with this card?
>>94775833Necrotic Ooze with anything that taps for a mana
>>94775814gacha rulesets are made specifically to empower whales at the cost of the majority of players if you consider that playable I'm not entirely sure what to say
>>94775831I hope to be that based one day
>>94775392>This card that is completely unbalanced for multiplayer is okay because "just remove it lol."You have no concept of basic game philosophies like tempo, card costs, amd playing on a curve.Rhystic is toxic because if one retard doesnt feel like playing off curve than Rhystic will always 2 for 1 the person casting removal. At WORST, absolute worst, youre making people at the table play one turn off the curve behind you by making them pay the 1. At best youre 2 for 1ing the guy who is casting removal, so you essentially come out ahead in about 90% of cases.Rhystic obviously gets worse as the game draws out, but it is on the level of Sol Rong and Crypt if played in the early game without how much tempo and card advantage it produces.Theres a reason it was a worthless common for years and has never seen any competitive viability in 1 on 1, then EDH got popular and its desirability skyrocketed.God people in this general are fucking stupid.
>>94775839The people consider it playable no one cares about your sensibilities anon
>>94775755Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but after the mana crypt ban, my opinions changed. Crypt was a card that was rarely seen outside of decks that were already expensive, and the vast majority of complaints were based on hypotheticals rather than actual experience with it. The problem could have been solved with a rule zero conversation among casuals, and the removal of crypt alone isnt going to lower the power level of top end decks enough so that mid level decks could compete. And if it were to be banned, give people a warning and an opportunity for discourse. I'm not going to go into the weeds, the card is banned and that's the reality we live in, but the gloating and faggotry from people who were happy to see it go for tenuious reasons really opened my eyes. These people didnt want a "balanced format" based on meta breakdown, specific play patterns, and expert analysis, they wanted to kick invested players in the wallet, then did so with glee.That moment made me realize that experience with the format, knowledge of the cards, devotion to constantly improving as a magic player, and efforts to help others improve were not the priority. It was to appease a braying crowd that had no interest in any of those things whatsoever. If tiers and the death of that style of play is the result, so be it. This isnt the path I chose, but rather a direct result of the people who had a goose laying golden eggs, then it to wear the feathers.
>>94775847>there's a reasonYeah EDH players are bad.
>>94775847>toxicOpinion discarded. I wont discuss the power of a card with someone emotionally invested in disagreeing with it at a philosophical level.
>>94773485When anime secret lair?
>>94775887You're very smart. What's your IQ? Have you applied to Mensa?
>>94775893Not him but 143 mensa is beneath me and rhystic is fine
>>9477588795% of my post literally addresses the power of the card and why its out of whack per the philosophies of the card game.Your autistic ass wont engage with it because someone used a word you didnt like. Youre a fucking loser, dude.
>>94774032I've been considering trying to make something work this guy. Seems like he could helm a neat hydra fight deck. That his effect triggers off being targeted also gives your board a decent deterrent from being targeted as well.
>>94775893IQ is not a measure of overall intelligence, it's a measure of specific problem solving and relational language skills that speaks more to a person's preperation for the test than their capacity. I'm between 115 and 125, depending on the day and the test.
>>94773830>vigilance counterThey haven't really explored ability counters much it seems. There are a decent amount of cards that give them but it always seems like they're hesitant to go too far with them. Wouldn't mind seeing it more often.
>>94775928>Your autistic ass wont engage with it because someone used a word you didnt like. Youre a fucking loser, dude.Great job of proving my point and demonstrating the type of discussion you're capable of, chief.
>>94775941Holy fucking cope and imagine thinking your IQ ever bounces around ten points shut the fuck up anon you have no clue what you're talking about nigger doesn't even know what g-loading is
>>94775930Built him, the hydra sub-theme is basically pointless because once he's out he's all that matters and he doesn't help the Hydra's before he's out. Save a few standouts like Hydra Omnivore or Phyrexian Hydra. It's more voltron-control. Which is cool in its own right.
>>94775891Is Avatar: The Last Airbender anime?
>>94775970No. Why? Is that happening next?
>>94775968>>94775930This. My decklist is in the thread already if you ctrlF gargos. I think i have 6 hydras in the deck and they are either good utility or play into the pump spells theme of the deck
speaking of HydraIs it cancerous to make him your hydra commander?
>>94775955This is a lengthy discussion not relevant to edh, but I suggest you look up which test you're taking and how the conditions of the test can effect performance.
>>94776011Rightfully draws hate, even if you're not doing the fully degen untap combos produces stupid amounts of value that no one should let stay on the board. If you play in no-interaction battlecruiser meta then have fun but otherwise you're dedicating a lot of the deck just to protecting him.I'm just salty I sat down at a table once with him and then the guy across from me was playing untap combo Zax and I just didn't see the point keeping the deck together.
>>94776026I don't need to because if you genuinely think your IQ bounces around 10 points you're retarded. There is something called g-loading and the more the test is the more accurate it is, chances are your IQ is ~115 (give or take a point the actual natural variance) and you score higher on shittier retard tests. Also depending on how old you are (very obviously under 25 cause only zoomtards screeching at IQ) it is dropping every year your peak is late adolescence
Was too tired last night to post but here's what happened at my LGS last night.>Mishra, Eminent One (me)>The Scarab God>Svella>Saruman of the White HandW: Mishra, Eminent OneThe cool part of this game was when Svella activated her ability for all of his mana and hit Warp World. I had 6 Necron tokens, 12 Karnstructs, 2 Treasures, and a Goblin Shaman from Fable of the Mirror-Breaker. In response, I tapped out to overload a Cyc Rift, which utterly stripped everyone else of getting cards from Warp World outside of their land count. I ended up flipping 28 permanents out of 30 cards and it fully built my infinite with Mishra, Strionic Resonator, and Gonti's Aether Heart. >Xyris, the Writhing Storm (me)>The Scarab God>Go-Shintai of Life's Origin>Saruman of the White HandW: XyrisOnly real remarkable thing about this was me and Go-Shintai both chuckling that we were drawing our Enduring cards at the same time. He cast Enduring Vitality, then on my turn I cast it. Then he discarded Enduring Courage after I used Lore Broker and I kept mine. Ended the game with Shivan Harvest to wipe out all nonbasics except mine, then repeatedly wheeling into Goblin Bombardment (my Impact Tremors was removed).(1/2)
>>94776090At this point the Scarab God player dipped and someone else took his place (honestly he seemed pretty frustrated and spent a lot of time groaning through the games)>Coram, the Undertaker (me)>Rin and Seri>Chatterfang>Cadira, Caller of the SmallW: CoramEarly Bloom Tender, which let me cast Buried Alive after almost tapping out for Coram. Anger, Brawn, and Lord of Extinction (earlier I fetched for Ziatora's Proving Ground so I had all the buffs)Each player eliminated through Commander Damage one at a time. The guy who asked me to play "The Shoveldeck" asked why I attacked him twice in a row, so I explained that one thing I learned the first time I played Coram when I got him. A guy I hit for 18 proceeded to basically tap out all of his blockers and not be afraid of me, and after the game I asked why and he said it was because it's not normally socially acceptable to just kill a player instantly like that. Now I press the advantage and don't spread damage since everyone is threatening until dead.Last game was sorta a dud, but it was fun>Sidar Jababy (Me)>Giada (it was supposed to be Avacyn but I suggested he try Giada in the command zone. He loved how it played)>Svella>Rin and SeriW: DrawOnly remarkable thing about this game was how many board wipes we played. Ran out of time since the store closes down at 10pm and my ride got there, so we all called it a draw and shook hands on it.Had a lot of fun, my decks all felt pretty good. I need to adjust the ramp in Sidar Jabari though, I got hard stuck at 4 mana for a while (which wasn't bad, but it definitely felt sluggish)(2/2)
>>94775968>>94776000That's a little disappointing. Always thought some of these hydras were cool. Though having just skimmed through the list of them I can see that a lot of them are similar and just get big in different ways. Not too many of them either. I've been wanting to make a mono green deck and a fight one so it seemed like he could kill two birds with one stone. Seems like he'd still fight well enough all on his own to not really need too many other hydras to help so its still in theme.
>>94776090>you may cast>4 choicesDo you play with retards?
>>94776090>Was too tired last night to postnobody gives a fuck, nobody is expecting you to post here, nobody is missing you when you're gone, and nobody gives a fuck about your BORING fucking story. thanks for the blog, nobody is gonna read it
>>94776107I had lethal on board if he didn't cast it, so he figured a reshuffle was better than just dying to a bunch of huge karnstructs on my next turn>>94776108>talking about edh badPlease make it a point to not reply to me again, thanks!
>>94776108I read it i like reading about the games anons here play :) maybe if you actually played the game and didn't just cry 24/7 you'd like it to :D
>>94776075Yes, I'm aware, and your called shot at my age isnt accurate. Anyways, it's predicated on a battery of tests to show correlation across functional groups to demonstrate your general aptitude. But if you're taking a test in a situation that's stressful, you had to drive in hellish traffic and fuck around with parking before you got there, you spilled your coffee mid test, or your dog died, these events will impact performance. Same with the relative performance of the sample placed on the standard normal curve, though I cant speak to this specifically. Again, this is not the place for this discussion and aproximately one standard deviation between tests can be explained by context, which is about 15 points bitch nigga.
>>94776131>Please make it a point to not reply to me again, thanks!take off your trip and stop acting like a thread celebrity. literally fucking nobody, not a soul in the world, is sitting here waiting for your stories from game night. >>94776141>taking off your trip to samefag on cooldownyou're insufferable. nothing fucking happened in those stories. the last one just says who won and >Only remarkable thing about this game was how many board wipes we playedWOWWW THAT'S SO COOL I'M SO ENTERTAINED BY THIS STORY THAT A TRIPFAGGOT TOOK TWO POSTS TO TYPE UP
>>94776158>samefagsamefagsamefagsamefagsamefagsamefagsamefagsamefagsamefagsamefagsamefagyou're boring and wrong
>>94776148>anon breaks out the thesaurus to try and cover up the fact he doesn't know what he's talking about >ermmm I was stressed that's why I'm stupid!Just drop it it's painfully obvious you have no clue what you're talking about and not mistakenly claiming and then doubling down on how it can vary by up to 15 points is just hilarious >agePost your ID and prove me wrong:)
>>94776028to be fair part of me does want to use untap stuff, but for the sole purpose of dropping a 999/999 hydra on the board and make everyone deal with Godzillabut there's just no way people won't expect you to drop a torment of hailfire instead
>>94776172>you're boringthis gives away the fact that you are samefagging. my 140iq mind (the other anon in this thread can confirm this btw) simulates all possible responses and it notices that people who are seething angry at you like to call you "boring", as a way of acting bemused and above it all. except they (you) fail to take into account that if someone WASN'T samefagging they wouldn't feel the need to act in such a way, to feign their innocence. kys "swordbro"
>Be me>be playing green stompy with Azusa>opponents are the 5c Eldrazi precon, azorius control w/ hanna, and rats with Marrow-Gnawer>find horn of greed in my opening game>play it>play lands, draw cards>ramping up>popping off>the eldrazi player gets his library searched by hanna, and the player looks directly at me and selects a card from it>plays this bad boyI've never been so stone cold owned in my entire fucking life
>>94776197Why are you pretending to be me my IQ is 143 and it's painfully obvious no samefagging is happening I am a swordbro defender and here is my view. I invite swordbro to take a similar picture so we can shut you up once and for all >>94776099
>swordhating schizo here all day every day to reply to himget a job, anon
>>94776216fuck me, forgot the card. its fine its a free self (You)
Mail came today, as well as some key pieces I had before. Time to start filling the rest of the deck with chaff and jank to at least be playable for the kitchen table pod this weekend.Wish me luck bros. Now just need to plug in and out obviously better and more powerful cards down the line.
I miss Christian
commanders for this feel?
>>94776241Literally just play slivers
>>94776241Skullbriar
>>94776248oh yeah i could do that and then while i'm at it i can go down to the local gay club and pozz my asshole with aids, you'd like that wouldn't you?also slivers has too much self interaction for my 98iq brain to handle
>>94776241The only answer.
>>94776000Looked over that list. Didn't realize there was so much in green that triggered off being targeted. Gives a decent back up plan Incase Gargos is stuck somewhere. Thanks anon.
>>94776274there's been way more gay things that slivers in recent times
>>94776278Go-wide no-combo prossh definitely one of my fav decks. Like if Jund was Naya.
>>94776181Sure thing anon. Next time you take an IQ test invite me. I'll spill coffee on your lap, set off the fire alarm at random, fire a gun at the ceiling, knock your laptop on the floor, and breath loudly over your shoulder. We'll see if the results are in your normal range.
>>94776282Yeah there is some real cool cards that you can include! Big fan of venerated rotpriest is predict that will do work when it hits the field
>>94776218Anon do be kinda retarded tho (too lazy to get a sticky note and not gonna include my trip-password in the post)>>94776241the Swarmlord>>94776315I should not be laughing this hard at that post
>>94776322Why am I not surprised you have a girl of questionable age as your desktop.
>>94776315The only time I got tested i did it on 3 days no sleep after many personal issues while 2 middle aged men lorded over me and I still scored 143. Intelligence does not vary like you think it does. This is retarded zoomiecope of which you are
>>94776108honestly, between the two of you, you're the faggot I wish would leave. All you ever do is bitch and complain about a fucking tripcode.
>>94776322>twitch: swordbro_streams>open up your twitch>see fat armenian 40 year old pedophile in the vodLMAO NOOOOOOOOOO
>>94776335Intelligence doesnt vary, your performance mentally manipulating arbitrary shapes to figure out the designer's specific pattern does you charlatan.
>>94776369No it really doesn't again you need to look into g-loading. An intelligent person is intelligent at all times.
>>94776391>g-loadingI'm aboutta load my Goink into your ass if you don't shut the fuck up
>>94776361Damn you showed him anon
>>94776391Anon, you're conclusively proving IQ is a poor measure of intelligence by your unwillingness or inability to follow simple logic in test design, despite your apparent high scores.
>>94776419Because your cope is actually not real. People who actually have high IQs will measure that regardless of material circumstance. Logic isn't always "hmmm this makes sense to me" sometimes logic is looking at the data and realizing your assumption was wrong
>>94776430Non-math majors jerking it to tenuous statistics because someone else told them it points to something they find personally validating lmao.
>>94776430Objectively incorrect and laughably retarded. If I chop off your arms and make you write a test blindfolded in the middle of a chuckee cheese birthday party there is no possible way you'll perform to the same standard as unimpeded. Begone, this is why IQ fags should always be ignored; it's a tautology.
>>94776456The fact you think this is a rebuttal is sad. Every statement carries within it certain contexts and implications and being unable to pick up on those is a sign of a retardo
>>94776489If you could refute what I said you would, but you cant, so you're using IQ WAR as an ad hoc justification.
>>94776529Theres no need to refute what was said as it doesn't relate to the discussion at all, you've essentially pissed your pants and then smugly said deal with it despite "it" being your problem.
>>94776538>People who actually have high IQs will measure that regardless of material circumstance. >provide material circumstance that would result in a low measurement>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THATIt's neat that you think that. What decks do you play, low-wis high-int anon with the learning disability perk?
>>94776555As i said statements carry context and implications. Getting shot in the head is also a "material condition" yet i clearly wouldn't be talking about that. The conditions in question (literally dictated by you by the way so this is not only dishonest but in essence refuting yourself) are middling stressors in life, not being blinded and delimbed!
Gonna be real, if you spend hours arguing online about your IQ, you probably don't have a very high one, one way or the other.Go jerk off somewhere else, this is thread is about EDH.
>>94776572>first post about edh in hours gets a ton of flak thrown at it>everything else is retard bickeringwe're not allowed to discuss edh here
>>94776588>tripfag still mad that the only replies he got to his gay story was himself and my hate post
>>94776591All that money for this, anon?
/edg/ is /tg/'s /b/
>>94776591>500 bucks in the houryou're either a crypto indian or a lawyer
>>94776617Feels that way some times.>>94776619Would you really want to hire a lawyer who is more concerned about arguing about his IQ on 4chan than working on your case?
>order cards at beginning of week>they don't show up by end of weekAnyone else get mad?
>>94776638You and me both dude they were supposed to arrive today so I can play my new deck with friends tomorrow but it got pushed to monday, i've already been waiting a week FUCK YOU CARDKINGDOM
>>94776638me fr rn
>>94776619Lawyer :D>>94776630Law is easy anon. That 500 an hour you pay maybe requires 30 minutes of work but it's 30 minutes I know what to do with a deck you don't putz
>>94776570Sounds like you didnt take first year logic in university, disabled-anon. The degree and specificity of the stressor was never specified because the intensity of the fluxuation was never specified; it was capped at one standard deviation or 15 points with minimal context. You then made a blanket statement with no support, and it was directly refuted. Now you're arguing about the nature of "middling" stressors and they're relative impact with nothing to back it up other than a single collaborative metic relying on the consistency of a large sample to mitigate variance. Begone charlatan, you have no power here.>>94776572This has been my point the entire time.
>>94776638I check the mail every day hoping. Even if it physically impossible to have arrived yet.
>>94776651i'm contacting the bar and telling them you're scamming on your billable hours
>>94776654>wrong theirHere we go. Anyways, the point has been proven.
>>94776651And you dont* not deck. I seem to be mistakenly thinking about magic in the EDH thread>>94776654No you gave examples we were very clearly working within normal degrees of stress and still being physical capable. Not discussing further with you because 1. I'm smarter and 2. I'm richer
>>94776662You would be ignored because every lawyer alive would instantly be disbarred and fired if this was an issue. If you wanna save money don't get into legal issues is the general opinion in my profession
>>94776678in the old days the social function you perform was reserved for the likes of eunuchs and held with equal scorn
>>94776667That's not how logic works. If you were a lawyer you'd know that, you'd know that the initial position is irrefutable by design because it's both reasonable and intuitive without a large burden of proof on your end to the contrary, and that arguing about this in the first place is retarded. And no, IQ WAR had nothing to do with it despite your attempts to frame it that way.
>Build new deck>Repeatedly get my ass raped 3 games in a row>Adjust deck to try to save it>Assraped 2 more gamesIt's beginning to dawn on me I have wasted money on a bad pile of magic cards.
>>94776724This is the final solution, and why I always give advice people dont want to hear. What deck is it?
>>94776724What's the deck?Are you me?
>>94773467>TQ: Will you be building anything from Innistrad Remastered?I'm done buying new cards from new sets. It's all so tiresome to keep up with the jank they keep printing
is this card legal to play in a monowhite deck?
>>94776730I thought he would be fun but he usually just gets blown to hell before I do anything, or I kill one person and hand the game to another by not killing them first.
>>94776744yes
>>94776744No black pips, so yes.
>>94776747That's a really bad card, sorry anon. What brings you more joy than anything in that deck?
I really like this mdfc Im surprised its pretty cheap> can enter untapped> can cripple an opponents defenses> can btfo val*kut players
Shut up christian
>>94776747Should run him as voltron so he has some protection.Unless you're already doing that.
>>94776758Any time I can double the power of the commander multiple times in a turn I'm having fun, in retrospect it's easy to say I should have gone with xenagod or the innistrad lesbians instead. But seen people build them before and wanted to try something else, lesson learned.
>>94776783Seems like you solved your own problem. +1/+1 counter decks can also do this very well. If you need help just ask.
if i use this to copy my commander and then hit someone with it, does it count as commander damage? seems like it could be cool
>>94775859To disagree is to state people do not like current EDH and do not want to play it. Simple as.
>>94776361He still streams? He used to be a camping Bubba in DBD until they nerfed face camping. Then he became a survivor shitter because killer sucked.
>>94776827Commander is a property of the card itself, not the creature so copies don't do commander damage. Does go infinite with Godo, though.
>>94776827or purposes of the combat damage state-based action added in the traditional Commander variant (C.R. 903.10a)—a commander remains a commander even if it's a copy of another object, buta permanent with the same characteristics as a commander (e.g., because it's a copy of a commander) is not necessarily a commander,especially because being a commander is not a characteristic (C.R. 903.3).
>>94775859This is such a faggy, negging non-opinion with an incredible height of hubris and "IM THE ONLY ONE WHO CARED ABOUT BEING GOOD AT THE TIME EVERYONE ELSE IS A WHINY FAGGOT" while handwaving any and all discussion while demanding more? You just want an echo chamber for a shitty, overpowered card that should've been banned years ago.
>>94776846>>94776853i see, thank you. i'm guessing it doesn't copy the equipment too, right?
>>94776864echo chambers are pretty based ngl
>>94776872No
>>94776864You mean exactly like the people who got it banned?
>>94776888>no u10/10 reply
>>94776894I'm not going to argue with your little sperg out, but it's very funny that you "no u" after "no u"ing so you could "no u" while you "no u'd". X to the Z would be proud.
>>94776872Nope
>>94775605I agree
Jeez guys, I'm not that important, just cool it down ok?
>>94775847>multiplayer card is better in multiplayerI hate you because I know you run shit like deadly rollick without batting an eye. Because what you're mad at is bad players not cards and it'll never be enough
>>94776923>>94776610>>94776333ob-fucking-sessed
I want less tripfags and more random retard anons who insult me for posting my decklist after prompted to!
>>94776946Yeah that's me! Fuck your deck anon, run this expensive and complicated card instead.
>>94776946Your Zada deck is shit faggot
>>94776957Damn, wonder why everyone defends the tripfag instead of anons!
>>94776946post your deck
>>94776969lmao no
>>94776744>>94776754Theoretically you can run any fetches in a deck even if you don't have a land to search with them because they don't have colors in them. Wouldn't do it anything. But you could.
>>94776971>WAHHH I WANNA POST MY DECKS>ok do it>NOOOOOOO
>>94776981
>>94776617If this was /b/ I could post rat porn without y'all getting weird about it
>>94776617/b/ hasn't been a genuine thing in around 12 years
>>94776985see >>94776946>>94776969>>94776971exactly what i described
>>94777022No one actually stated they wanted to post their decks, at any point.
>>94777038>griping that i cant do something is not expressing interest that i want to do itso complaining that you can't drink water doesn't imply that you're thirsty or want to drink water?
>>94777047You lost, sorry. You'll reply but I won't see it.
>>94777060>>94777060>>94777060>>94777060
>>94777065who keeps putting fucking "swordbro" in the namefield of the new threads
>>94777077Obviously the faggot himself to draw attention to him.
>>94775330Are you aware that you are just as likely to mill cards you want than cards you don't want?You know I read something that said sub-80 IQ people literally cannot understand Gambler's Fallacy, and now I'm thinking that article was true after reading your retarded post.
>>94776108don't listen to swordfaggot's replies bud, seeing him taking the time to seethe at your posts brightens my day
