Spooky Scary Skellingtons Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh (embed)WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba (embed)WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6 (embed)Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H (embed)Warhammer Chronicles: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zipTime of Legends: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zipET: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zipTOW: https://gofile.io/d/ffbanDhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL (embed)>Previous Thread >>94767121TQ:How would you combat the Skaven if you were made Chief Ratcatcher General of the Empire?
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>>94778546>TQ>Skaven PlayerWhy I would entice them with food and lay clever traps. Never mind-Ignore how they always seem to know how to avoid the traps. Clearly they are exceedingly clever.
>>94778546>How would you combat the Skaven if you were made Chief Ratcatcher General of the Empire?Dump poison gas in the sewers. Something heavier than air ideally.Maybe employ some dark mages to summon undead or demons in the sewers, or import some exotic monsters. Something that doesent mind eating endless rats.
>>94778585That sounds like it can't possibly backfire.
>>94778591Look, if the undead become a problem we summon demons to deal with them. If the demons become a problem we instead raise an army of the dead to keep them at bay. If whatever monster we import starts an out of control population we import some other monsters to serve as natural predators.Everything is accounted for.
>TQFind a way to make an alliance with the lizard men and attempt to get a skink gf in the process as well.
>>94778639Cross the known world for some new world pussy?Good idea
40K/AoS Daemon player hereI've loved dwarves forever and after seeing I can pick up models in ToW for a fraction of the cost of other systems I thought I'd make it my project for the year. I am learning the game, but there's so many options and the more I research the less confident I am about how to go about it. My favorite playstyle in Total War is to use artillery and gunlines protected by heavy infantry, fighting a slow war of attrition rather than decisive strikes, which I'd like to replicate as best as possible.To start I thought I'd pick up the 4 engineers (for a general,) dwarf cannon and organ gun, and the Dwarfen Mountain Holds Battalion. Problem is the last one; there's so many options and conflicting info out there.My understanding is that it comes with 64 Dwarf bodies, with the supposed options to be building 32 Dwarf Warriors and 32 Thunderers or Quarrellers. I've seen some people claim they are the same bodies, meaning you could potentially build 32 Thunderers and 32 Quarrellers? In addition, you might be able to build rangers? I also heard a few people say warriors are virtually useless because quarrellers and thunderers can perform almost as good in melee while having range, Is this true? I was looking forward to having a bunch of Gimlees with axes but don't need them if it is an objectively worse choice.For the Gyrocopters I thought I'd see if I could magnetize, but if not probably build one gyrobomber and one normal copter.I also wouldn't mind advice on how to expand after this.I have a theme in mind, though haven't committed to it: Black Metal Virgin Holds>Primarily black and white paint scheme with corpse paint over flesh color and a snow/forest aesthetic>Think the Beasts of Chaos are the coolest thing ever but are secretly scared shitless of them>"Legend tells of Grimbald the Ascendant, who obtained a Dark Elf gf">"I totally burned down a Sigmarite Temple this one time guys"
>>94778794>Daemon playerYou don't play with daemons. They're the one playing you.
>>94778721>this dead straight hair looks a bit uncanny.It's on purpose, sure it looks a bit iffy, but that is supposed to be a defining trait.>met Fabiola as a Dog of War and managed to convince her to leave not!Venice for a rundown (by Stirlander standards no less!) shitholeYeah you can imagine how disappointed the Wife was when she found out what kind of shithole their new home was. But there is room in Warhammer for Love aswell. And Love makes one do silly things such as move from a picturesque Tilean Merchant Princes Estate to a dark and gloomy forest in the Empire where the only pastime is having kids.
>>94778989I forgot to mention that those portraits are meant to be in-universe artists renditions. And the artist would exaggerate some aspects while neglecting others.
I feel stupid for asking this but is there any chance of GW making a plastic bone giant kit which contains 2 bone giants
>>94779024Why would you need two Bone Giants?
>>94779024You can get giants that come in threes from the spearhead in aos. They have skin and meat though.
How can I play warriors of chaos?I don't really want to field Marauders
>>94778794The parts in the battalion are mostly interchangeable. Building 60 ranged troops is probably overkill, but doable. Warriors are decent as line holders and have better WS plus are cheaper than ranged units, so they are better at their role. Longbeards are better, but you can just use the same models with extra bits/paintjob. Gyrobombers suck, regular copters are fantastic.The best stuff in Dwarfs are hammerers, irondrakes (minimum unit to get the unit champ and his trollhammer torpedo), rangers, gyros, artillery, and the gun thane.
Today's painting session went exceptionally well. The last two banners I had to complete are now (more or less, I still need to varnish them) done. Which means...
>>94779113forsaken spam it is. If you just dont like marauder models just proxy them with beastmen, its what I plan to do.
>>94779171Thanks for the response.May I ask how you would build it the box?I like Hammerers and Irondrakes, but it seems like it might conflict with guns, artillery, cannons, etc. if I'm reading the rules correctly.
>>94779202...that after four years, my warriors of chaos army now finally stands at a full 2000 points! So long as I include those nurglings/counts-as chaos spawn of nurgle, that is. I'm looking forward to seeing what full-sized games of WHFB are like. The games I've played have all been at 1000 and 1500 points, so I'm curious to see what will change in larger games. I just hope my LGS doesn't start playing 3000 point games now. I honestly have no idea what I'd even collect and paint to fill out another 1000 points.
>>94779248Is that Hell Planet Remina?
>>94779271It sure is. I was really struggling to come up with something for that tzeentch regiment, so I looked at my bookshelf and there it was.
>>94779314Remind me to gift you Dune instead.
>>94779113You can play a chaos army however you want, anon. What do you find cool about the army? You shouldn't be thinking about the meta and how to minmax your army list right from the start. Get a nice collection going, paint it up real pretty and then think about that kind of stuff. And remember to give your characters and regiments names. It makes them fight better.
>TQI would embezzle my funds for beer money and do absolutely fucking nothing, I'd like to continue being alive.>>94779202>>94779248Your ketchup marauders are growing on me, Alvis-sama. Also you could easily pad out another 1000 points with a DP/GD, dragons, dragon ogres, hellcannon etc, but 3000 point games would not be something you'd want to do regularly.
>>94779318Dune is the opposite of Tzeentchian, all the grand semitic schemes of the baron and the small e got utterly btfo by a bunch of worm muslims
>>94779395What about World of Horror, then?
Does anyone have the new empire arcane journal PDF?
im building zombie dragon….need to wait for rider to arrive and cut the dragon up a bit and sculpt a saddle still. biggest modelling project yet for me desu
>>94779677Hey, you okay? Hopefully that's paint.
>>94779213I built 10 thunderers, 24 rangers with crossbows, some characters, and 16 warriors with hand weapons and shields for my expeditionary force.Irondrakes are shooty so they match, but shooting won't always be enough so hammerers are there to finish stuff or deter things from rushing your guns.
How is the Empire under any threat at all when they’ve discovered rifling? Shouldn’t they be stomping everyone in the old world no problem? How do some retard chaos barbarians pose even the slightest threat?
>>94779786the empire can't mass produced rifled barrels, everything is still artisan crafted
So if an Exiles army contains units that can't take the exiles vow like questing knights, do the questing knight pray?
>>94778546What do you think of this rewrite of the spat between a Korean and Japanese anon as Dwarf and Elf?Shut up prissy boy bitch elf, elf days look like this:7AM:Go be Pheonix King Court, (his wife doesn't fuck him because her bodyguard is hotter)8AM:Practice Elvish then realize its an ugly pussy language and stop8:30AM:Learn to suck slaaneshi girldick10AM: Magic class, summon magic fleshlight to have sex with because of pussy taboo elf sex life makes you a virgin12PM: Lunch, need 2 hours because you have to make a perfect vegan feast to nurse your delicate little fairy digestion2PM: Gym class, only 30 minutes because elves are weak, including pre-workout stretches2:30PM: Riekspeil Lesson2:40PM: Watch elf woman get fucked by human merchant and masturbate small elven cock3PM: Learn math 1 civil war and 1 grudgin' = end of fairy-boy empire4PM: Deny grudges7PM: Learn how to age immortally, never have kids and die a virgin9PM: Go home to shitty abandoned dying villageDwarf schedule:5AM: Wake up and must prepare for ugly life as dwarf7AM: Pretend ale is a good beverage even though fine Elven wine is CLEARLY superior to Dwarfish poison swill8AM: Study magic, oh no wait Dwarfs not cool enough to use magic so study ugly runes9AM to 9PM SHAVING BECAUSE YOUR BEARDS ARE SO FUCKING UGLYCOME TO ULTHUAN I WILL KILL YOU UGLY STUNTED LITTLE FREAK!!!
>>94779973You aren't forced to take the Exile Vow and Questing Knights aren't given the option anyway, and the Exile Army doesn't start with the Blessing of the Lady regardless.
>>94779994I know, but the questing knights i take have blessing of the lady right? I am curious how that would work in an army that doesn't have that.
>>94780018Page 31 of the Bret Arcane Journal, Reclaimed Glory. You only get the Blessing under the conditions met in that section. You never start with it and you can only get it if your unit earns it.
>>94780034Okay, so there is a miscommunication.At the beginning of the game when a Bret player normally prays, if i have questing knights in my exile army, can the questing knights pray for the ward?
>>94780040There isn't a miscommunication, you just aren't paying attention to what I'm saying. So for the third time. NO.N.O.No, you are not allowed to start with the Blessing active in an Exile army. It doesn't matter if they have the Exile Vow or not. It doesn't matter if they're Questing Knights or not. Every unit in whole army is not allowed to start with it. Your knights, any kind, can only obtain it in combat as stated in the Reclaimed Glory rule. They can not start with it.
>>94780059ok, thank you
>>94779677>hand as big as a dragon's faceNo wonder he's dead, poor bastard had cancer
>>94779786Henry Ford (PBUH) hasn't blessed reality with his existence in their timeline
>>94779786rifled muskets usually required the shot to be coated in more wadding and animal fat to help it stick to the grooves in the barrel so they were slow to reload and weren't a total gamechanger straight away. Also armies ith firearms still lost to premodern armies as late as 1880s and that was without magic and fantastical things.
I picked up a model of Felix Jaegar and Gotrek. I know I can just sub Gotrek as a slayer hero but what should I do about Felix? Does anyone know his original base size?
You can paint metal?
>>94780308IRL? Yeah, painted armour was a thing.
>>94780308Painting metal minis or painting metallics? I can tell you I've done both several times. Metal minis need some care when handling because even when primed there's a bigger risk of chipping. I recommend wearing latex gloves when handling and varnishing is absolutely necessary for a finished paint job. The actual painting itself is no different from a plastic or resin mini, though the details on a metal can be hard to find so I recommend a zenithal prime. As for metallics, I've only ever done regular real metallic paints because I'm too incompetent and afraid to do NMM. I hope one day I can do it on a character but I really need some practice first.
Decided to look for a FB/ToW group after finishing my Welf army and it's all "tournament,tournament tournament". What's up with GWfags and hating campaings and casual play?
Oh no, painting this guy was actually fun…How terrible are infantry blocks? Completely awful or just sub optimal?
>>94780408Fine unless you're playing against metafaggots who spam cavalry.
>>94779202Is the Tzeetnch banner a reference to that one Junji Ito story?
>>94780408for Empire it is pretty awful because they have no special rules like warband, for everyone else just very sub-optimal. Greatswords are probably not going to make back their points but they will at least stick around for a game so you probably won't lose points compared to other units Empire have.
>>94780362Warhammer is popular which means people get into Warhammer online without having a dedicated gaming group at firstthis means that they build an army with the idea of engaging with random people and this random pick up games inevitably end up having to be very standardized games, because you can't arrange gentlemanly agreements on a narrative scenario with someone you don't know, especially when that someone is new to wargaming in general and most likely a kid with some form of ocdthis cements the norm going forward and for stores and gaming groups alike it's always easier to organise tournaments than narrative campaigns the amount of people who ever played a narrative campaign with painted armies, globally, probably don't reach the hundreds, despite the millions of sales
>>94780488nah people play a ton of narratives but it's all behind closed doors with friends.
>>94780488>because you can't arrange gentlemanly agreements on a narrative scenario with someone you don't knowI wouldn't mind playing basic short campings or even single-game scenarios from rulebooks.
was the transfer sheet for the empire a limited-time thing?says it Sold out online instead of temporarily out of stock
>>94780362It's back to the old RPG meme of "let me tell you about my character..." People like to read about relateable stuff that's useful for them. Everyone wants to win games to some degree, tournament scenarios are a kind of lingua franca and everyone knows somewhere in their heart that they're capable of collecting a standard force and at participating in a tournament, someday. Getting someone interested in your personal army background, or homebrew rules that your chums play with, or the campaign you're playing with your extremely specific friend group? You need to actually present it in an entertaining, charismatic or instructional manner for people to care, and most nerds don't have the skill or confidence for that.
>>94780308Bro, there are metal miniatures in James's store right now kek
>>94779031>Why would you need two Bone Giants?It's incredibly depressing this is the realisation I had when reading the rare and special sections looking at my 2 new bone giants.
>>94779024>plastic bone giant kitNope.Buy the resin and be happy. Or convert them.
>>94780408Infantry are fine as long as you deal with enemy cavalry somehow
>>94779248>3000Get some dragons.
>>94779677Oof I forgot how small he was.Where'd you find him?
>>94779024Technically...
>>94780672>inb4 too smallsnip the wings, use tactical rocks to adjust the feet poses to a standing pose, swap the polearm with spare bits from a sphinx or stalkers, paint appropriately
>>94780672>>94780680Bonearch Boneboner units look like ass.
>>94780672God these are vomit inducing. What are they even supposed to be? Why does the bone they're constructed out of look nothing like real bones? What do these have to do with the death faction? Fucking faggot ass game.
>>94780715The one in the back looks like he's ripping ass to fly.
>>94780721His wings are pissing souls for some reason
>>94780715>When Nagash cast his spell of his great spell of desolation against Nehekhara, Ptra himself sought to destroy him with a burning column of light but this failed. He next dispatched his heralds, the Hammurai to slay him and for forty days and nights the divine warriors fought against him with sun-forged steel but they could not prevail. As the sun flared with their lord's impotent rage, Nagash reshaped their broken forms and minds into his own loyal servants - the Morghasts. They're constructs made from the bones of angels, essentially
>>94780734How do you take such a neat concept and product something that looks like such ass?
>>94780734They look nothing like anything in the Tomb Kangz range whatsoever. Let's say they're supposed to be ripped bird-angels, why do their heads look like lizard skulls? And why the weird segmented plate instead of something more Egyptian-inspired? Fucking soulless zero attention to detail faggotry as usual
>>94780760>And why the weird segmented plate instead of something more Egyptian-inspired?Because the armour design comes from nagash, they probably designed nagash on its own and only then decided to make these dudes as accompanying bodyguard unit or something, since nagash was now that huge
>>94780783This one looks much better if still wonky. The arm and leg vertebrae-armor and the vertebrae vertebrae armor are also fucking idiotic but at least better done than the other two
>>94780573>Here Within:>Killer Trees: "Walk around them" say horticultural experts.>Red cloaked maniac assaults civilians; immediately knocked out, ignoredGood nourishing food.
>Empire stuff STILL not available in Aus/NZWhat the fuck GW? Did Somalian pirates nick the pre-orders?
Selling f-ACK!
>>94780906do you perhaps have a more recent image?since this one was clearly made before Dwarfs and Chaos were released
>>94780921Don't engage him, Anon.
>>94780921Took it fifteen minutes ago.
Post em if you got em.
>>94780820it's the exact same
RATE MY RAT
>>94780968why pink?
>>94780968Pretty good Anon, for a filthy rat.
>>94780968Looks very nice. It's dark and sooty-looking but that will be fine if the basing scheme and the rest of the army are consistent.
>>94780980I wanted a softer color for the warlock engineer since I chose a bright crimson red for my stormvermins and gnawlord.>>94780988I'm awful at basing, I'll just slap whatever brown mud terrain I can get my hands on and call it a day
>>94780968Pictures of boxes?
>>94781013That would be a waste. Do something like a rocky patch of ground. It's pretty easy with a texture paste and little chunks of thick sand or rocks.
>>94781014poeple like to do as the counter to the "Selling Fast!" meme about Dominion to show that TOW doesn't sell at allpic was one from several months ago
>>94781040OkayBut where do you get warhammer stuff 30% off? Is that just the discount from MSRP or is it like>gw sells for 90 bucks>store sells for 72 bucks>store does an additional 30% off for 51 bucksBecause I could go for 51 bucks of plastic, metal and resin.
>>94781051Stores have limited shelf and storage space and TOW boxes are extra bulky. When stuff doesn't move some stores will discount it steeply to get rid of it.
>>94781051o I was a different anon sorry I'm not sure what the original box poster was trying to achieve
>>94781069I wonder if there's an easier way to find cheap TOW than simply checking all the stores.
>>94781051>>94781072The other Anon, with the discount boxes, is trying to pass off common discounts from brick and mortar stores as evidence of it not selling well. Here in Ausfagland I can get 20%-25% off GW stock year round. More on holiday specials. They can get it that low because GW offers even larger discounts to their own employees, who these smaller stores buy from instead. It's been that way for ages now.
>>94781087stealing it is cheaper and easier
>>94781040Imagine thinking that interest in a game is going to be identical across LGS in the world.
Does the Anvil of Doom still move to give ground when it loses combat?
>>94780968>blue lens>r*unde baserat ogre feed / 10 jk it's pretty neat now, rate MY rat
>>94781126I like the warpstone glow and the teeth. Very menacing. The base is really nice too. Unfortunately, he seems to be sideways, but that doesn't change anything.
>>94781117No its a war machine. If the dwarfs guarding it flee it is destroyed
>>94781179Not flee, Give Ground. Notice its unbreakable
What did the AoS skaven refresh bring to the range that was lacking? If anything it looks like there's just things missing now, like individual Grey Seer models. I wanted to make a skaven army for TOW but it seems like Skaventide just made things worse in some ways? Or is the range refresh still incomplete?
>>94781210Since its immovable no it doesn't give ground, you stay stuck in combat
>>94781210>>94781225No i'm wrong. Since it can still pivot and do follow up moves, itvstand to reason that of it goves ground it will still move back
>>94780711> the newfag
>>94781117The only thing it can't do is move in the Remaining Moves subphase; it doesn't affect combat or anything else.
>>94781215plastic globadiers and jezzails I think? I guess also a warlord on brood horror.
>>94779786because they are not just fighting other humans in loincloths.
>>94779248The banners are nice, but perhaps a bit too flat, square.Crumple them up a bit, some wear and tear. It looks like they rode straight out of the banner shop
It's nothing special, but it's something
>>94781523Where did you get that vintage box?
>>94781537Second hand market, unopened
>>94780362A lot of people who go to that sort of event, myself included, are casual players. Think of them as a scheduled day to play multiple games with multiple opponents, instead of scheduling one game with one specific opponent. There are definitely players who tryhard and are playing to win at all costs, but you'll find a good amount of opponents who are just there for a good time.That being said, regarding casual play and playing outside of a tournament setting, it really depends on who goes to your LGS. You should really look at individual stores/clubs instead of looking on Facebook or the internet. In my experience, it's been very easy to find a casual game by just asking people for one, though admittedly this is because my LGS has a group chat. I haven't had the chance to play in a campaign, though. That sounds like it could be fun.
What should I get when I am done with my box of black orcs? .. I dont have anything else for them yet
>>94781539shame to open it now
>>94780660trolltrader…came with box for display :))
>>94781523>>94781539Sick. How're you gonna paint them? Standard Night Gobbos?>>94781549Boar Boyz or a chariot maybe?>>94781553Boxes are meant to be opened, plastic meant to be painted and played.
>>94781549Some sort of character to lead said black orcs. Not necessarily the model that's going to be your army's lord, mind you, but a model that's on-foot and that you wouldn't mind using as your eventual lord's lieutenant.
>>94781553...why? it's literally a kit still in production
>>94781595exactly.Why rip open a pristine old box when you could put it on the shelf and get a new one.
just noticed mierce miniatures are having a sale, would this work as a gigantic spawn? i think it would have to go sideways on a 60x100mm base because the one in the image is 80mm
>>94780362The people who do casual play aren't advertising it anywhere since it's just a private agreement between friends. Tournaments can be a good place to find new friends, however. Not everyone there is a sweaty. If you listen to a lot of youtube tournament batreps then keep in mind that the people with youtube channels tend to be the most tryhard sweaties there are and are going around stomping regular people with more narrative lists. Not surprising since a lot of them came from 40k. There are a few tournaments that are completely oriented for comp play, but those are more of an exception.
>>94780937Australian. So cucked waiting for a better looking digital
>>94780567I doubt it. GW is just terrible at keeping transfer sheets in stock.
>>94781796Nice Army, OC? I don't recognize the heraldry of those Halberdiers, and everyone else is a Knightly Order or Pisolier.
>>94781792Yeah it's hard to get into casual/narrative groups because they intentionally gatekeep, for good reason. Once the floodgates are open it's only a matter of time before some waacfag comes saying "Oh no it's in my backstory that I've got 3 dragons."
Since Ulrika sets the precedent for Good Guy Vampires.How much leeway is there for other Good Guy Vamps in Warhammer? Technically those not aligned with the Von Carstein cause could help the Empire against any number of threats, from Skaven to Chaos, since those also threaten the Vampires Livelihood.
>>94781796I really like that mounted wizard with the pink sword. Good stuff. Lovely army.
>>94781834>Since Ulrika sets the precedent for Good Guy VampiresUshoran set that precedent a long time before she was even born.
>>94781848Ushoran is a poofter.
>>94781853Nice army. Get some Militia.
>>94780734The lore blurb comes off like ones first OC
>>94781869Nagash is a huge mary sue.
>>94781873difference between strong character and mary sue, nagash has gotten fucked many timesnow if you said archaon, i would actually believe you
>>94781862>t. whiny bitch Neferata the loser
>>94781846>>94781817Cheers. Talabheim with knightly orders and mercs. What I had left from not playing 8th since aos hit. There's another pile of knights I'm putting back onto squares as well. Probably make up a blob of white lions and pretty everyone else up. Still undecided on rebaseing though.
>>94781882Thats just saturday morning villain tier with Mary Sue origin story.
>>94781865Yeah I'm grabbing the box when it drops.
>>94781890Whats with the Dragon Rider?
>>94781549a Big Boss of some kind
>>94780573>"Definitely ratmen" confirms local shop owner>Found dead following morningTown Cryer sure knew how to have fun
>>94781834>>94781848Genevieve was the first good Vampire in Warhammer and she's from the 80s
>>94781925We're clearly talking in-universe, you fucking dunce.
>>94781934would still come before Ulrika then by good several centries
>>94781659Yea
>>94781913That's not actually Town Cryer, that's me using the Town Cryer template at https://philbetts.com/townscryer/wyrdify.html . Ran a narrative (as in an actual decision-based storyline, not just multiple games with a level-up system) Mordheim campaign for four players with weekly Town Cryer updates referencing their deeds and fuckups.
>>94781865Yeah I'm grabbing the box when it drops.>>94781901I hate the big griffon and like GW dragons.
>>94781358Why would they ever use swordsmen then? If the other races are so powerful that guns aren’t particularly effective then swordsmen and close range infantry would have a 100% casualty rate
>>94780251>Also armies ith firearms still lost to premodern armies as late as 1880sFor example?
>>94781975ok thanks
>>94782210nta but I can't really think of any examples besides the Battle of Isandlwana maybe some battles in the Italo-Ethiopian War
>>94781848Yeah, but he's ugly so it doesn't count
>>94780760>egyptian themedYou see then they would absolutely be lame. Fallen undead angels are cooler than anything that has a resemblance to kangz, and that is a fact.
>>94781561>Sick. How're you gonna paint them? Standard Night Gobbos?Something a la this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZOo-ey2hkIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-16oQyvYUw&tTell me if you think it looks bad. I'm not skilled enough yet to not follow a recipe
>>94782377>25mm bases for gobbosThe unit will look really spaced out.The charme of Goblin bricks was how tightly packed the buggers are.
>>94782261There were a few contemporary examples from the wars between the English and Scottish as well.
>>94782397those were not from the 1880s though
>>94777970Isn't Dark Souls aesthetic largely based on Warhammer Artwork from the 2000s?Late response but "no". Dark souls is based on berserk as its single biggest stylistic influence. And while its possible to argue that berserk may have taken some inspiration from early warhammer (it certainly bears some similarities, particularly in regards to the apostles/qlypoth) I think thats a definite stretch which vastly overestimates the influence of warhammer, and it would have been the EARLY early warhammer stuff if anything rather than the 6e era stuff which is more definitive and emblematic of warhammer. Beyond just "dark souls (and subsequently elden ring) is based on warhammer" the souls games tend towards a particular form of medieval fantasy which is actually rather absent from warhammer. They exist in a period more technologically advanced than bretonnia (albeit without gunpowder) but also before the renaissanse empire, they're in this high medieval era which largely isn't represented in the setting. Theres definite elements which could translate or work from those games in terms of fitting into warhammer, but for the most part the more fantastical elements absolutely dont. Lothric might look like something out of a miller or blanche background, but the angel knights dont fit into warhammer.
>>94781882>difference between strong character and mary sueCorrect, Archaon is just a strong dude, nagash is a marie sue.
>>94781893Name a single vampire count character that doesnt come off as a mary sue.
>>94782465the Weeb von Carstein
>>94778794>My favorite playstyle in Total War is to use artillery and gunlines protected by heavy infantry, fighting a slow war of attrition rather than decisive strikes, which I'd like to replicate as best as possible.Good news, thats basically the only way dwarfs play.You dont have the mobility for decisive strikes. >In addition, you might be able to build rangers?Rangers arent really a "separate unit" as much as something you convert out of quarellers. So yes, you can make rangers out of them. Just need some capes or whatever. >I also heard a few people say warriors are virtually useless because quarrellers and thunderers can perform almost as good in melee while having range, Is this true?Dwarf warriors are better in melee (unlike in prior editions) and are cheaper. They are in fact one of the most cost efficient "Holding" infantry in the game, with a very strong defensive statline for a rather low price. But they also dont do much damage, while quarrelers or thunderers can provide a threat at range and deal SOME damage in melee. >For the Gyrocopters I thought I'd see if I could magnetize, but if not probably build one gyrobomber and one normal copter.The bomber isnt something you can magnetize afaik, its a different body.>I also wouldn't mind advice on how to expand after this.Youre going to want some artillery, probably bolt throwers and an organ gun. Maybe some irondrakes (theyre very good, the torpedo hits like a cannon). Hammerers are also pretty good, as are longbeards. Might want one or the other to serve as your generals unit. Obviously also need some characters. >I have a theme in mind, though haven't committed to it: Black Metal Virgin HoldsThe lore is a bit silly, could probably use some editing if you want to have it fit better, but the idea sounds neat and the paint scheme sounds very unique as far as dwarfs go. Sounds cool.
>>94782465I'll find one, and when I do, you'll regret ever challenging me!
>>94780734God they wanked nagash so fucking hard in ET, him and the skaven got handjobs that have no comparison anywhere, the worstof the 40k marine wank doesent have a candle to it. >and then ptra (a real and active deity now) smites him (doesent work) and then sends legions of previously unmentioned and unknown angels to go fistfight nagash (only does this after nagash does what ptra knows he was going to do). Then nagash fistfights them all and wins and makes giant !gargoyles to serve him!Its so fucking stupid and unnecessary. You could literally just say "nagash decided he needed stronger servants, so he made giant undead constructs to serve him using dark magic (arkhan helped)"
>>94782465konrad is pretty flawedthe retard tried using a zombie as a spy
>>94782521Hey, would have worked in Stirland!
>>94779786>How do some retard chaos barbarians pose even the slightest threat?Ws5 s4 t4 i5 2A 4+ armor.>>94782202Because you need someone to stop the dude that will pulverize your swordsmen from getting to your guns and pulverizing them even harder. And a sword is much cheaper to make than a rifled gun.
>>94779248I know its supposed to be hellstar remina on the tzeench banner. But it just looks like those hentai orbs from those pixel gifs. Either that or fathers original form as the dwarf in the flask.
>>94782202Because Riflemen would be awful against Skellingtons in most situations, but Swordsmen will do fine.I mean seriously, would you prefer a company of Handgunners, who have about 30 rounds of shot each, or a Company of Swordsmen who have unlimited Swords use against a horde of Skavenslaves or Zombies?You are on a really foolish train of thought about "hurr why does the empire not-" when you have to reconsider that the British Jobbed against enthusiastic Zulus with breech loading rifled armaments, but Warhammer has Savage Orcs that are every bit as motivated as Zulus but also 8 foot tall and require 10 rounds to put down.A Musket is not a bad weapon against such a creature, because that will be your next idiotic argument, but you sure as hell don't want exclusively Musketeers when fighting an army of those.
>>94779248>I honestly have no idea what I'd even collect and paint to fill out another 1000 points.You have zero (0) chariots.You have zero (0) warhounds.You have zero (0) marauder horsemen.You have zero (0) monsters.You have zero (0) proper combat characters.
>>94779248Just noticed the Oldhammer Chaos Warriors undivided. Those are fucking Soul.
>>94782545>hentai orbs from those pixel gifsWat?
>>94782564Theres a genre of hentai where these black eyeball orbs that look like your remina start growing tentacles (which is what your reminas tongue looks like), then then restrain anime girls with them. Im not going to provide video proof, either look it up yourself or trust me on this.
>>94782202Why would you ever use dudes with guns if missiles exist?Why would you use jeeps when you have tanks?Why would you use regular soldiers when knights exist?"just give everyone the best gear" has never been a valid option.
Anybody have a not 3d printed / stl 3rd party pegasus for a wizard? Already have Gelt for running as elementalism / battle magic but I want to get something for running as dark magic / necromancy.
>>94782405Truez last ones were from the 18th century, BUT they were fought and won more or less the same way as the ones in the Victorian Era. People with vlose quarters weapons and (most importantly!) shields charge on infantry lines armed with firewrms eating a few volleys in the process, manage to reach them and use their shield to easily neutralize enemy bayonets, easily cutting down the soldiers wielding them.
>>94782465Red Duke? Dude doesn't win shit
>>94782550Good volleys from the gunners could realistically break the slaves without having to engage them all.
>>94782628Theyre ld10 rerollable, thats unlikely.
can someone recommend me the next army to collect and paint? I have a nice skaven army I did from scratch over the course of the last 3 years - but am worried that they will never be properly supported. the only thing is, I am a slow painter and I don't want to be spending another 3 years painting it >tldr: sell me on what supported non-horde army to collect
>>94782645Multiple armies are for cowards.
>>94782202Rifling has been around since what, early 1500's? The last issued cav sabre for the US military was in 1913.
>>94782645Ogres?Not so many models to paint. Could make a nice Maneater Army with a mix of new and old models.
What are chaos chariots good for
>>94782753In ToW? Not much.In 8th? Cost efficient damage missiles, also core. Either make good flankers or can even threaten the front if in sufficient numbers.
>>94782659Technologically the first rifled barrel is frlm the late 15th century. Militarily it wasn't employed until the Napoleonic period for sharpshooters and only later during the Crimean War became standard issue. It took a long time until rifling was good enough to justify the cost.
empire aj pdf when
>>94782836eventully
Warhammer RPG.Are Chaos Warrior tough? According to lore, they'd be elite soldiers, and most of the RPG characters are civilians.
>>94782599https://www.gamezoneminiatures.com/tienda/en/monsters-and-machines/321-pegaso-de-la-luz.htmlotherwise I'd try grabbing a nightmare steed to represent the dark/necro/shadow magic
>>94782886Pretty tough yeah, you're supposed to take them own as a team, with strategy. Beatable, but only if you treat them as mini bosses.
>>94782886Yes?In game chaos warriors are basically the strongest infantry outside of like, the most elite elf/dwarf units.In lore theyre fantasy space marines that dont get tired, eat, sleep or age and are literally fueled by violence.
>>94782922>>94782923No, I mean... Are they possible, or do you need to have an entire party of combat-oriented characters to take one down?I'm currently arguing about power levels with a friend about how Vermintides characters are Heroes or even Lord level while most RPG characters are just civilians.>In lore theyre fantasy space marines that dont get tired, eat, sleep or age and are literally fueled by violence.Okay, that part is pretty metal. Good thing they're slow as fuck.
>>94782918something like this, painted as an ethereal manifestation of the wizard, perhaps with a night sky pattern
>>94782936>No, I mean... Are they possible, or do you need to have an entire party of combat-oriented characters to take one down?I suppose that would depend on the RPG stats, but probably the latter. Dont imagine a party of scholars and courtiers would do very well vs a big dude in armor. >Good thing they're slow as fuck.Theyre not, theyre slightly slower than elves. Chaos warriors are quick, quicker than regular humans certainly.
Can you bring flagellants in a Nuln army?
>>94782971>Dont imagine a party of scholars and courtiers would do very well vs a big dude in armor.So they'd be a suitable boss for a campaign.>theyre slightly slower than elvesWait but elves are fast as fuck>Chaos warriors are quick, quicker than regular humans certainlyThat is genuinely scary.
>>94782936>an entire party of combat-oriented characters to take one down?maybe right out the gate, but after a small amount of levelling I think it would be fine.
Can I have more than one type of magic arrow in a glade guard unit at a time?
>>94782982>>94782982>So they'd be a suitable boss for a campaign.Sure, you could absolutely use a chaos warrior as the boss of some warband or bandit group or whatever. >Wait but elves are fast as fuckYes, elves are the fastest race in the world in terms of reflexes and shit. Chaos warriors (and skaven, funnily enough) exist as the next best thing. Demons and vampires too, but thats cheating. >That is genuinely scary.It is. Chaos warriors are very scary. Chaos Warriors are essentially space marines, superhumans clad in what is the fantasy equivalent of power armor, and like space marines this means theyre also actually pretty damn fast. Theyre not sprinters or whatever, dont expect to see one chase down a guy on horseback, but in terms of reactions and shit theyre a cut above any normal human. Theyre also very skilled, experienced, strong and tough.
>>94783033I do love the idea. Heroes are only as impressive as the villains they defeat, so if Chaos warriors are terrifying murder machines, taking one down is an achievement.
>>94783043Oh absolutely. Remember, each chaos warrior is, in his own right, a champion of the chaos gods. Its easy to forget since theres whole armies of them, but each of them is a villain in their own right, with their own story of dark deeds and infamies. Its like with grail knights or questing knights, each one of those rank and file dudes has an entire story where theyre the main character. Taking one down isnt just impressive, its also significant narratively, it represents overcoming a great evil.
>>94782691Ogres aren't supported either. I'd say WoC.
>>94782936>do you need to have an entire party of combat-oriented characters to take one down?Reliably? Yeah. Remember that WFRP is built around semi-professional fighters as classes. In the wargame your characters would mostly fall into the militia unit, unless you're playing a combat specialist.
>>94782982>So they'd be a suitable boss for a campaignAnon, the RPG has resouirces for a canpaign-ender boss fight against a single bloodletter, like something that's exoected to be a party-wiper for when the GM wants to end things.
>>94783068Actually adding to that: every knight fielded by every army is "an important dude", likewise for things like longbeards, hammerers, ironbreakers and so on. Just because theyre small scale and "insignificant" within the context of a big army where dozens of them die per battle doesent mean they arent actually pretty big deals "in the context of the lore". Losing that unit of 10 empire knights is a big deal, even if its only like 300pts. Those are noble scions that arent coming back home, respected members of their communities that have lived storied and consequential lives.Your average 2000+pts tabletop battle is a fucking massacre, a hideous bloodbath which would leave massive scars on the world.
>>94783111Your average greatsword or basic knight is top 1% of fighters in the empire. The sort of people you could write a story about, who have fought and done great things.
>>94782645You disappoint the GHR
>>94783215Wrong Elves.
>>94783225Please refrain from posting AoStranny Khaine, thank you.
>>94783238Thats the End Times Khaine. But I consneed, they are the same.
>>94783190it's not like I am abandoning my rats, just trying something different alongside - pic related; my latest work to appease GHR
>>94783246The what times? Sorry I've never heard of that
>>94783259In all honesty, the Greenskins should have stopped the End Times by Accident. Inadvertedly saving reality by scrapping the plans of Chaos and Skaven, and Nagash.
starting the white dwarf tonight
Empire needs more werewolves. They should share them with Norscans.
>>94783238would this be better?
>>94783285you are well skilled.
>>94783287>Canada.jpg
>>94783277They canonically did in Storm of Chaos, but James threw a hissy fit and pissed all over the setting with his clitty because he didn't like the campaign results.>>94783297Much so.
>>94783287the Children of Ulric exist in the lore but unless GW decides to do a dedicated Cult of Ulric army list I doubt we would get them considering they never had models or rules outside of WFRP
>>94783068I wonder if it's possible to have a campaign where a group is mandated by a noble (or even led by one) to look for a disgraced knight, only to find him as a Chaos Warrior.>>94783095I see, thanks.>>94783102Exoected? My grasp on English is limited, sorry.>>94783111This is something that genuinely irks me with Total Warhammer.The knights, the greatswords, the hammerers, even the knights of the realm, they're all meant to be elite units, trained and experienced by decades of fighting, maybe even centuries for the dwarfs, but they still fall and are replaced, or the unit get wiped and a few Brettonian baronies suddenly find themselves without a liege.>Your average 2000+pts tabletop battle is a fucking massacre, a hideous bloodbath which would leave massive scars on the world.I vaguely remember something about Space Marines in 40k, and how they're rarely deployed in actual fights to minimize casualties. They're all impressive in the lore, but in the actual tabletop, any fight turns into a slaughter.
>>94783285Love your stuff dorfchad
>>94783287Nonsense, the Empire needs proper Warhounds instead. Every province should have their own characteristic breed of battle dog, Ostermark Wolfhounds, Averland Shepherd, Ostland Collie, Great Nordlander, Stirland Bull Terrier, Marienburg Bulldog, Wissenland Basset Hound, Reikland Retriever, Talabecland Doberman, Sylvanian Mastiff
>>94783352>I wonder if it's possible to have a campaign where a group is mandated by a noble (or even led by one) to look for a disgraced knight, only to find him as a Chaos Warrior.That'd be interesting if you drop in information that he started to act out aggressively and getting violent with his servants, seemed paranoid, or engaging in excess etc.. and was keeping unpleasant company (a chaos cult)
>>94783375Well, friend is telling me that the RPG rulebook has a blurb about a rich heir from a noble house hanging out in the slums, way beneath his standing, so maybe it's possible to use something like this to explain why a noble would hire thugs and cutthroats to go in the slums and retrieve his brother/cousin/whatever.Could be a disastrous battle from which he was the only survivor, and he got disgraced for surviving, fell into alcoholism, and eventually ended up corrupted by Chaos.
>>94781796ah that sucks, what you hoping to pick up? Also just got a 30 man halberdier squad finished, people hating on tow and praising 8th never put a big squad togther shit is tedious.
>>94778546What firearm would be a good sidearm for Karl Franz?I think a Repeater Pistol would be good. The Engineers would want him to be armed to the best, the Pistol can fire repeatedly, and it's small enough to be shot with one hand, so he can still use the hammer in the other hand
>>94781834Why does like her makeup look like she just deepthroated a horse?
>>94783415A dwarf-made sawn-off grudgeraker
>>94783416Its hard to apply makeup when you can't see yourself in the mirror
>>94783424you just want a doomguy expy, don't you?
I've just moved house, I've got nowhere to take photos and I've not 100% finished these lads, but somehow I got them (nearly) done in 10 minute bursts over the last 3 weeks.
>>94783432Not really i just think it would be more efficient for someone who's supposed to fight the enemy in meleealso it looks trendy and fashonable
>>94783416>Kislevite Womantake a guess
>>94783431Sensible kek. What excuse does the Dreadlady have?
>>94783443shamecause I want a doomguy expy
>>94783415>What firearm would be a good sidearm for Karl Franz?some fancy symbolic heirloom pistol, perhaps something that is used to signal a reconfirmation of the firmness of the alliance between men and dwarfs like ghal maraz symbolises the beginning of that alliance with the first emperor.
>>94783415a ridiculously long wheellock pistol made in Nuln.
>>94783456>dark elf>looks like she deepthroated a horseChecks out
>>94783456Try breathing with a metal mouthcover on without the hot air going back in your face and making your eyes wateralso because she sucked a lot of cocks to get to that position
>>94783460that would be Aenarion or, if you want him to be human, probably Valten
>>94782645I'd heartily recommend Warriors of Chaos. They're non-horde, fully supported, and most importantly are conpletely open in terms of models and paintjobs. You can basically take each unit as a separate warband and therefore modelling project, and it's completely in keeping with the army.>>94783033I always get a bit leery hearing Chaos Warriors being compared to SM. Space Marines are monsters, but the game, fluff and galaxy of 40K all revolve around them and they essentially form a baseline. Chaos Warriors are monsters in a world that revolves around regular men, dwarves and elves, a horrifying symptom of reality itself being corroded.
>>94783484Nice army. Pity about the TOWranny bases.
Can’t even fit black orcs on the new bases, let alone the old ones.
>>94783456Imagine what her bodycount is, in both senses of the word
has a Dark Elf ever fucked a beastman before?
>>94783531morathi has probably
>>94783484that face banner is great
>>94783483Grimnir too. He did the Aenarion thing off-screen by walking into hell
>>94783531morathi laid with various warlords of the northern chaos tribespractically the same as beastmen
>>94783531100% chance>>94783545I wouldn't be surprised if she got some mummified TK rigor erectus priapism dick at some point
>>94783531Slaaneshi Cultists in Warhams3 are Druchii Sluts.
>>94783431Touché.>>94783446I never associated kislev with horses, despite the Winges lancers. To be honest I'd have guessed a train of kossars.>>94783456>Dark ElfDunno man, ask the pleasure cults.
>>94783562>I never associated kislev with horses>I never associated Eastern Europeans with HorsesNigguh what, it's literally 90% of their history.
>>94783570The remaining ten are "and then the winged hussars came".
>>94783561Not really. They use the male hu1 rig and animations, and their actual models are androgynous with manjaws. My money is on elfaboo TIMs who gave themselves fake pointy ears via magic plastic surgery.
>>9478357090% of their history is horseshit, not horse shit.literally everyone's history involves horses used in war.
>>94783531Not a chance in hell that it didn't happen. A third or so of all dark elves worship Slaanesh.>>94783560That's fucking disgusting, Anon. Probably in character, thought.
>>94783352>The knights, the greatswords, the hammerers, even the knights of the realm, they're all meant to be elite units, trained and experienced by decades of fighting, maybe even centuries for the dwarfs, but they still fall and are replaced, or the unit get wiped and a few Brettonian baronies suddenly find themselves without a liege.Yea. It might be interesting if one of those strategy games did the "accurate" thing where certain units arent just "buy and maintain", but are products of your population and shit. So your faction passively produces the "warrior caste" necessary, but using and losing them has other impacts beyond them dying (if all your nobles are dead, whos in charge?), meanwhile conscripting all the peasantry has its own issues.but thats probably more autistic than a TW game should be. >They're all impressive in the lore, but in the actual tabletop, any fight turns into a slaughter.Yup, a decisive 2000pts loss by space marines would in the lore be a chapter defining thing you read about in the lore as a great defeat for the imperium. Oh a chapter master, two dreadnoughts and like 30 of his elites were all killed? Rough.
>>94783298i am, or at least i try>>94783360thanks, i also got the new ungrim, i'll paint him at some point
>>94783570Maybe in Russia and Ukraine. The Baltics, for example, have a past of mogging (and getting mogged by) the germans every 100 years or so.>>94783580Call Poland easter europe again, and there will be a mob of half-drunk sarmatists ready to burn your house down.
could Morathi seduce Doomguy?
>>94783607You are amazing.
>>94783607Based, I just got the new Ungrim from Chang. Probably gonna find 3rd party Slayers to go with him
>>94783600I mean, losing a battle is already a devastating blow, but the civilian effects on top of that? It'd create an unescapable death spiral, so it wouldn't be fair for non-undead, non-demonic armies.
>>94783484Is that dog on the right venosaur?
>>94783607>painting the ends of the beard as being part of the gold ornamentInteresting look, I could see that being a style dorfs would do. Think I've seen similar on TES Dwemer
>>94783635Yea, modeling demons is hard from a "realistic logictics" standpoint. For undead you have the replaceable fodder troops, but then losing any necromancers or vampires should be crippling, and you should NEED them to maintain the army/your economy since "realistically" the whole faction is powered by them.
>>94783484I really like your chaos spawn, anon. He looks proper disgusting, as he should be.On that note, I second your recommendation. Chaos in general is the coolest army in the whole game.>>94783436The bone white armour looks very smooth, anon. I see what you did with your sorcerer's horns too, that looks fantastic. Good stuff!
>>94783491They're all of them on 6th Edition bases (except the knights, who wouldn't rank up). Let's see your army then, chum? >>94783542Thank you kindly, Chaos is a great army for someone like me who enjoys sculpting but is just really, really shit at it.
would it suck more being a peasant in Bretonnia or North Korea?
>>94783635Yes, it would probably make defeats or even costly victories crippling, but thats kinda realistic imo, war is hard and theres a reason people dont just do "total war" on everyone forever. Conquering a new settlement doesent actually just instantly grow your economy and start pumping out new forces or whatever. Its not the right thing to have in a total war game, but I do think a game with those elements might be interesting to have. Really put you in the "proper" mood of statecraft and rulership where you suddenly see why avoiding a battle might be the wiser move and so on.
>>94783651I get it's impossible from a gameplay perspective, but it still annoys me that every knight is supposed to be a noble killing machine trained from birth to kill and serve, each with their own landings, and yet they're "just" another model.I guess it's up to you to give them a story.>>94783676The fact that peasants never try to leave Brettonia and look up to their lords while people are desperate to escape North Korea should speak for itself.
>>94783683Yea, its definetly one of those "inherent dissonances" of warhammer being a game rather than a proper setting. Theres definetly a campaign to be had with rules which help make losses more meaningful (I think MWG actually had a fairly interesting go at it with the tomb kings vs dwarfs 3 parter) but finding a way to not make it snowball too fast would be hard. And yea, its definetly an area where the player can spice things up. Give each regiment a story, name the dramatis personae even when theyre not necessarily "characters" and so on.
>>94783352>Exoected? My grasp on English is limited, sorryMistyping of "expected"
>>94783415On or off the big chicken? If on I'm gonna be different and say a swivel-gun mounted on big chicken's saddle.
>>94783683>>94783703Most of the stuff about how bad peasants have it in Brettonia comes from the pre-5th edition retcon anyway.
>>94783456She did deepthroat a horse
>>94783735A lot of it comes from the 6e era pivot in their lore. From the more fairytale/disney-fied lore of 5th edition, where the local lord is determined by a quest and the prettiest maiden of the village is annualy made a lady or whatever to the more "grimdark" current version of mud farmers straight out of jabberwocky.
>>94783735There was more hope for them before the grim derpness of a post 6e bret
>>94780488>the amount of people who ever played a narrative campaign with painted armies, globally, probably don't reach the hundredsare you the retard GW gets in whenever they need some numbers for the fluff?
>>94783752I think 6th was an attempt to combine the older and newer lore, I'm pretty sure that's where they made the whole "Laws of chivalry don't apply on sea."
>>94783733How smart is Deathclaw?I guarantee a hawk could carry a gun and if he's smart enough, squeeze the trigger
>>94783783Anon, he's also part cat. Do you REALLY want a cat with a firearm?
>>94783789Yes
>>94783821What the hell is this chaos abomination.
>>94783703I mean, yeah. That's why so many games let you customize your platoons.
>>94783587>literally everyone's historyOther peoples history doesnt include being the stomping grounds of every horseborne Civilisation from the Proto Scythians through the Huns and Mongols to the Cossacks.
>waiting for the Inn to openWhat are you:>painting>reading>watchingtonight, /wfg/?
>>94783882Wanted to watch Star Wars again, but my computer's DVD reader is dead. I'm very annoyed about it.
>>94783617Doomguy doesn't even know what sex is
The last two arcane journals that we don't really know anything about what'll be in them are Beastmen and Wood Elves, anyone got any thoughts what could be there? For Wood Elves I reckon we'll get a Tree Spirit list and a Wild Hunt list, they just seem the obvious choices and Wild Hunt lets them do the cavalry heavy thing they seem to want to do, though not sure what Forgeworld models they could bring back for them, which is also something they seem to like. As for beastmen I have no idea, I'd like them to bring back Fimir for them but that's probably just wishful thinking.
>>94783897Just watch it online for free?Type the film you intend to see into Yandex, ez.
>>94783882I'm picturing a guy painting tiny men in the corner of a bar nowWould you approach him anons?
>>94783936No because that sounds like borderline psychotic behaviour.A guy painting tiny men in the corner of the LGS tho? With a drink on the table? Sure.
>>94783882>>paintingStill assembling, Bretonnian archers and "Border Lands Brigands" which I've rebranded as Écorcheurs (basically mercenary men-at-arms who would moonlight as bandits in the HYW)>>readinghttps://files.catbox.moe/xoptlg.txt>>watchingSquid Game S2
>>94783910There will be a cavalry army in each of them because the TOW team are obsessed with cavalry armies in the AJs. >Minotaurs + Cavalry>Tree Spirits + CavalryEven if it's retarded they'll find a way to squeeze it in.
>>94783974I could see a Dragon Ogre themed army being the Cavalry in beastmen now I think about it, throwing in some excuse for why the centigors are with them too. Was there ever an official model for Kholek? If not he could be one of the new ones they release.
>>94783958Whats the scoop on those Brigands? Are they getting trouble from the Dukes or are they grudingly hired?
>>94784091/mybaron/ is a bit of a bastard who uses whatever means necessary to win, including hiring literal cutthroat bandits. He was exiled for a reason buddeh
>>94784113>/mybaron/ is a bit of a bastard who uses whatever means necessary to win, including hiring literal cutthroat bandits.Interesting fellow, he is not a Grail Knight, I take it?
>>94784004>KholekI doubt it. Sculpting a new dragon sized hero would require effort, I'm expecting re-release of Morghur and Ghorros and a generic shaman. Armies of infamy I'm expecting centigor core with elite(extra drunk) centigors, and a spawn heavy army for morghur. I expect the spined chaos beast to be brought back.
>>94783882>paintangot pic rel assembled, long way from painting though. Waiting on a can of dark blue so I can zenithal over black for a Nuln scheme. >readingthe arcane journal, loving the art spreads which usually got squashed in the old army books.>watching Drive
>>94784174I suspect you're right but God a Dragon Ogre army that lets you take Shaggoths as heroes, even if it doesn't have a new model at all, would be sick.
>>94784213>watching>Drivewould have thought something like Jabberwocky or Flesh+blood would work better for inspiration on Empire models
>>94783882god Kruber is just so fucking fashionable. The ultimate Statetrooper Specimen.
>>94784224I don't pick em but at least the soundtrack is cool. I've not seen jabberwocky though, definitely curious.
>>94784218A Shaggoth can be your Lord in 6e, always thought that was cool.
>>94783882Same as last night. Working on space marine 3D models for a 40k project. I have to pass the time while I wait for the next batch of plastic men to arrive, and took some time off mini painting.
>>94783882>paintinggrombrindal's on the table tonight.
>>94783676North Korea is closed the being a chaos dwarf slave than bret peasant
>>94784344So it still sucks, but at least you have the chance to earn a wage now?
>>94784324Also one of the scariest lords you can have
>>94784339Damn son thats some good photography on top of great paintan.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz9Q0DIU8TM>Dawi Tunes
>>94784339Those gems look incredible.
>>94784339Your NMM is still sloppy and hair is still chalky, but you are getting better. I respect the dedication.
>>94784323it's a bit of a farce but it's a film that inspired Warhammer in many ways
>>94784339I like that Grombrindal isn't wearing Spacemarine Armour. You know if he was an AOS original character, he would be steering some Rune powered Mecha shit. But he's just wearing a proper dwarven Hauberk.
>>94784353i do need a better camera, the phone doesn't work well on small minis>>94784374it's a useful trick and it always work>>94784376i think i botched the axe a bit. is the hair that chalky though ?>>94784389he does have some elements from kharadrons and fireslayers. nothing too obvious fortunately
>>94784309>The ultimate Specimen*Fixed that for you ;)
>>94784530>he does have some elements from kharadrons and fireslayersLike what, anon?
>>94784595the tiny things he has on his beard, it's from fireslayers designs
>>94784620Honestly it's such an inocuous and lore-friendly thing it doesn't look like an AoS design. Dwarfs take their beards very seriously so it makes sense for them to have jewelry on them.What about the Kharadrons.
>>94783914I wanna watch it in French, not in Simple English.
>>94784651The little things hanging from his belt I think are their cannisters I think or something like that
>>94784620what the FUCK is that keyblade
>>94784654But Star Wars is an English movie, why would you want to watch a shitty dub??
>>94783733Oh shit that's a badass idea. On another note, how curious are Imperial and Elven mages about other forms of magic? I know that there was a quote of some mages wanting to learn more about dwarfs and their runic magic, but not much else. Would they be curious about stuff like Ogre or Troll magic?
>>94784620They don't own the concept of beardstumps and pendants.
>>94784743Human wizards are pretty interested in things like Rune Magic and Orc magic(in at least one case) High elves less so
>>94784691Because the French dub is hilarious.>"Stop waving your village witch's stick, Lord Vador. Your devotion to this old religion hasn't helped you find the plans, or the Alliance's hidden base, or-"And also because spoken english always sounds like Churchill's speech.
>>94784796mos esley will always remain a repaire de malandrins to me
>>94784689Keys are a prominent design detail for Fyreslayers. Some of their mages also hold them.
>>94784827Meanwhile, watching more than 5 seconds of any English movie becomes this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP-vIk2_TPk>inb4 "just turn on subtitles"Then why not read a book instead if I'm going to read? I still have that book I bought on a Fnac clerk's suggestion, The House of Leaves.
>>94784843House of Leaves is only interesting for it's formatting, not it's writing
>>94783910>Welves1) wild hunt list with the incarnate of beasts2) scout list without treemen/cavalry but more warhawks/eagles
>>94784882Ta gueule, pédé.
>>94784924well you don't have a counter to my argument other than insulting me in another language
>>94784651i dunno about kharadrons elements outside of the belt buckle and the compass&weights>>94784924plutot pédéraste ou plutot pédale ?
>>94784967Vu qu'il chie sur un livre parce qu'il est trop compliqué, plutôt pédéraste. Du genre à jouer à touche-pipi avec le garçon d'autel.Pas comme moi qui ne joue qu'avec Miquella.
>>94783910for wood elves I expect a wild hunt list and a tree spirit list. For beastmen probably some sort of chaos spawn/magic themed list, and then a minotaur themed list probably.
>>94784769Have they ever gotten an ogre to talk with them about magic? I know there was an Empire judge with an ogre bodyguard but I'm sure those aren't common and Ogre spellcasters would be even rarer
Are there rules for playing as beastmen or skaven in whfrp?
>>94785143No.
>>94785138I don't think the average Ogre knoows more about magic than it just being his religion, what he could say is restricted to the cultural ements and individual spirituality he finds in it. Actual spellcasters probably don't leave their tribes for Maneating much, if at all.
>>94785143Yes, but only in 2ed. Arch (is he still persona non grata here?) ran a long-ish campaign with it for some friends, but one of them was a toxic That Guy and another ended up fairly unenthusiastic about the campaign. The players that were actually good, engaged and conscientious had to deal with a lot of bullshit from the toxic dude and gradually lost interest, until the whole thing fell apart due to friction.https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQqJXofqM4ACvqf7m7V2dsxqylu5KTroY&si=0UXOnBM6-nPJvB92
>>94785138maybe but orge magic is much more religion than magic is so even if a imperial wizard interviewed a butcher when they got the opportunity im not even sure the information would be that transferablemaybe a Firebelly but i would think those are even rarer in the empire than Orge Butchers>>94785143Skaven PC rules exist in 2e and they can be port over to other edition except 3e without that much trouble
>>94778546Just got into the hobby and this is the third or forth mini I've ever painted. How'd I do? pls be kind hehe
>>94785270https://imgur.com/a/gZIUbvoI'm retarded and forgot the link, whoops.
>>94785279>>94785270>linking to your models through imgurNigguhAlso, still very raw. I can only recommend watching some easy beginners guides, preparing your colours properly. Right not your paintjob looks like ebaygore. As a rule of thumb, less is more.
>>94785297I wanted to display all of his sides without making a collage, sue me I'm lazy. Yeah I'm still learning and very very new. You should have seen how I butchered my Belegar who's now soaking so I can remove the paint and fix him later.
>>94785270>>94785279seems a bit raw, no basing ect but that's generally fine, you could do with more definition/shading especially on thee helmet and the beard, plenty of things to improve upon but decent start though for your third/fourth mini you have done.
>>94785270>>94785279Thin your paints
Does Altdorf ever go to war on its own?In actual history, there's actually quite a lot of precedent for imperial german cities going to war(actually feuding, not quite the same but effectively similar) with other citied and against landed nobles all the time. Especially in the late renaissance thr large cities were quite literally scouring the countryside of landed knights collecting tarrifs on major trade routes going through their territory.
>>94785471I'm fairly certain the elector counts are constantly bickering with one another and Altdorf sends troops to reinforce those who align with their goals the most or as a peacekeeping force.
>>94784125Definitely not, he's a skilled warrior but is more interested in adventure and coin after getting a taste of both on crusade against the Tomb Kangz. I'm mulling over whether to have him be a full-blown Free Company mercenary leader scumbag inspired by HYW /his/ or a true-believing repentant exile who does his mercenary work out of necessity. Perhaps he's conflicted and it's a bit of both. In any case, he and his men are hardened veteran sellswords and adventurers, attracting many Questing Knights and skilled fighters seeking glory and coin to their banner. I'll be painting my lowborn soldiers in matching (but much less elaborate) colors with their noble masters to indicate knights bringing a retinue of men with them when they join up with the company.
>>94785615Where are they active, Border Princes, Empire, Badlands, Estalia and Tilea?I imagine Bretonnia might be a bit too hot for them to mull about with all that unchivalrous behaviour.
>>94785661They started in the Border Princes as Errants during the initial foray into Nehekhara that caused the Battle of Matorea boogaloo with Settra. Afterwards (leaving the results of the battle ambiguous) their return journey was hampered by Orcs and they were waylaid in Tilea, and that's how they began mercenary life. They're doing quite well for themselves now, but have no virtues or magic items to reflect their turning their backs on Bretonnia for more vain pursuits. They do have a Grail Damsel among them, though, escorted by a mysterious pious knight who never removes his helm, never speaks, and shuns all reward, accepting only meager food rations which he eats only in private. Lots of Questing Knights and similarly odd fellows.
>>94785471Probably? Bogenhafen went to war a bit back in the rpg afaik, so I assume other cities do too. Nuln and Marineburg do too.
For the purposes of determining whether or not the wand of jet breaks in TOW, does using a bound spell from a magic item count as making a casting roll? I know for a fact that the +1 casting bonus from the wand doesn't apply to bound spells, but can a result of a double on a bound spell's casting roll break it, or does it only take spells a wizard casts directly in to account?
>>94785818If you don't use the wand's bonus then it shouldn't risk breakage. That'd be retarded
>>94785735That Damsel sounds like a SLUT.Where is the Barony? I would imagine the lands are forfeit anyhow considering they are exiles.
What sort of gifts would a dwarf accept and use?They wouldn't accept most weapons and armor would they? Since if it's human made it'd be too low quality, if it's elven made it's not to be trusted, and if chaos forged it would go against their morality.Would they accept stuff that is enchanted to help the wearer but isn't arms or armor?
>>94785904Food and Drink, Snorri doesnt seem to mind buckets of vodka in Beastslayer.They would also accept animals, like a strong donkey or sturdy pony. Also other things, like a well made cloak or solid pair of boots tailor made for a Dwarf would not go amiss.
>>94785471Probably. Trade wars with other imperials, beastmen or greenskin incursions, the odd necromancer fucking with the local Garden of Morr, ROUSs, close to Dwarfs and Bretonnians, etc. And this is just talking about defensive fighting, as there's nothing to say such a rich place like Altdorf wouldn't be willing and able to project its power outwards, like funding expeditions into Norsca for trading or Lustria/Southlands or into the Land of the Dead for aome good old tomb raiding.
>>94785936>>94785471Could also see Altdorf marching on their own to take down an uppity Robber Baron in their vicinity causing trouble, or intercepting an approaching Greenskin Horde. Altdorf mustering a few state regiments and marching without waiting for reikland troops to arrive is actually quite feasible, and at the scale that the vast majority of TOW matches take place, also quite thematical
>>94785841See, that's what I was thinking, but if you read the rules literally then the wand can break on any casting roll the wizard makes. You're right, that is retarded! I know people aren't even using the wand of jet because everyone is just running a level 4 to dispel their opponent's spells, but it's also just horrible and punishes you for giving your level 4 the ruby ring of ruin/the rod of the damned/any bound spell item if you interpret the rules literally.On the other hand, this foray in to the absolute garbage that is the arcane magic item pool has led me to love the Tome of the Dark Gods even more. People running their level 4 battle magic sorcerers with the mark of Tzeentch are fools! For only 50 extra points points (really only 40 when you factor in the points saved from not taking the mark of Tzeentch) you can give your sorcerer the Tome of the Dark Gods and a spell familiar and you'll get to roll 5 spells on battle magic and replace the bad ones (CoAA, Oaken Shield, CoCF) with the good chaos lore spells. Imagine that: A level 4 sorcerer with fireball, pillar of fire, arcane urgency, winds of chaos (hex, -1/-2 movement) OR acquiescence (hex, unit strikes last) and the blue fire of tzeentch, and you'd have enough points left in your magic item budget to give him either the ruby ring of ruin or the rod of the damned. And all that without a stupid wand possibly exploding when your wizard isn't even casting his own spells. By the way, if the wand of jet can break when you cast a bound spell, then that means the sceptre of power can make your sorc lord take a wound at S10 AP-3 for daring to cast a bound spell too.
>>94785818No, bound items are not cast by the wizard, they do not benefit from any buffs the wizard might have to spells either. >>94785981Yes. but the FaQ elsewhere shows this isnt the case. Hagtree fetish doesent affect ruby ring for the same reason, the bound item is not "cast by the wizard"
>>94786031Ah. Well, sweet! Thank you, anon. I was worried over nothing then. I should really download and print these FAQs.
>>94786054Its not in that FaQ, so its more "inferring" but its the sort of inferring that means you wont get a more explicit FaQ. Look under the hagtree fetish stuff, should be either ravening hordes or main rulebook (under fireball)
>>94785844>That Damsel sounds like a SLUT.She was called there by the Lady and pretty much spends her days counseling the Questing Knights and fruitlessly trying to convince the money/glory-hungry regular KOTR, and the baron himself, to change their ways and repent.>Where is the Barony? I would imagine the lands are forfeit anyhow considering they are exiles.Couronne, which is largely why he forgoes pegasus cavalry which he (and I) see as weak and inferior to natural horses. His father, the baron when he left, died during a Greenskin incursion shortly after, and his would-be barony is a minor and not particularly wealthy one and is now in the hands of his younger brother, since he did not return home from the crusade and was presumed dead as well. Minor as it is, his brother might one day find an army at his walls if he ever decides to return home. /mybaron/ isn't an exile so much as a wayfarer blown off course by fate, at this point there is nothing stopping him from just giving up and returning home other than pride, greed, and probably self-hatred for fleeing and abandoning Sir Cecil's forces at Matorea to their fate, if my headcanon ending of the battle is true. Hence the Grail Damsel trying to right him and bring him home. Also, she totally wants his D.Whether or not he yet knows about the situation with his brother back home, I haven't decided yet. He'd find out eventually, but word travels slow, especially in his part of the world, and he's been presumed dead for years at this point. I'd imagine he would not be happy about it. He initially became the leader of the Matorea survivors by merit, not by title, and he still goes by "Sir" rather than Baron, so it's not like he *needs* the land or title, but between his pride and the Damsel nagging him it's likely he'll come back to claim it some day.
>>94786031>bound item is not "cast by the wizard"It is though. Its why puppet fucks with bound spells on wizards.
>>94786089TLDR his exile was self-imposed, unless Sir Cecil ended up winning at Matorea and surviving, in which case it is very much official.
>>94785735>>94785615Pretty neat OC, I dig it.If you're cool with it I'd like to suggest a crossover Episode of OCs, where my boy Benedict rode with /yourdudes/ for a while in Tilea years ago until he fell in love with his future wife.A noble born wayward Empire Knight falling in with Bretonnian Sellswords sounds like a great source of shenanigans.
>>94786111>Can the Hagtree Fetish be used to re-roll rolls To Wound caused by a Bound Spell?No. Bound Spells are cast by the item they are bound to, whilst Arcane Items such as the Hagtree Fetish affect spells cast by their bearer. Therefore, unless an item specifies it has an effect upon Bound Spells, it does not.Puppet doesent work either.
>>94786089>wants his D.I knew it. She's a SLUT!
>>94786119It's very likely they would have crossed swords and/or fought together at some point given how turbulent Tilea is politically. The culture clash would be fucking hilarious too (picrel), but there are plenty of opportunities for mutual respect to be won on the field.>>94786136/mybaron/ is a gigachad man's man who trailblazed his own path in life and ended up filthy rich, you can't really blame her.
>>94786164And plenty of opportunity to break lances in Jousts too!I'll concede that /yourdude/ would be the better jouster and horseman, but /mydude/ is the superior swordsman.
Anons, I dont know what to do. I know I want to play savage badguys, but I cant decide which one.>beastmenthey are evil human goat people that hate civilization and want to reduce the world to rubble, Cool and badass. Problems are that gw treats them like a red headed step child they dont want to acknowledge. Furthermore, there isnt too much story potential for them. I like savage goat men, I fuck with that aesthetic ALOT, its just in terms of support and narrative there isnt much. At best you'll have a book have them as an antagonist at the beginning.>warriorssavage vikings from the land of ice and snow, they rape and pillage almost as good as the beastmen and look menacing while they do it. They got tons of books, lore, minis, and they can use chaos trolls and spawns in special instead of having them hog a rare slot like beasts. I fuck with these guys, they are cool, but they dont have the monsterous savagry of the beastmen. they arnt a ravenous mutated horde of beastly monsters, which I feel is a downgrade. Yea yea I find great migration germanics and tribal germania more interesting then vikings, sue me.>greenskinsthis is the oddball, but alot of stuff appeals to me. They are evil haters of civilization, have cool monsters, are also represented alot, and the troops have that monsterous vibe to them that I like. My main problems are that they both lack the sinister evil of the chaos factions and they have a goofy streak. I dont mind some comic relief, but it feels like half the roster of greenskins is just funny memes. Out of the 3, these guys interest me the least, but I figured i'd mention them since these guys are the only ones that come close to chaos for me.Another note, in terms of gameplay, I like playing on unga bunga mode. Hit enemy with big stick, and figuring out strategic ways to hit them with a big stick. If I have any shooting its to be a prelude to unga bunga big stick. I want the ornate armaments of my enemy to be crushed by big stick
>>94786245You could combine Warriors and Beastmen.HOWEVER...Greenskins are fucking fun. And if you go Savage Orcs, you'll be the most Monke faction in the System. They even get all sorts of Trolls, who are peak Savage Idiocy.
>>94786164Damsels are for BIG ASRAI ROOT onlySorry frenchboy, your ears are simply too short to satisfy a Grail Damsel.
>>94786119>>94786164I haven't introduced /mybaron/ yet, his name is Sir Jean Pointu. The other characters in his company:>Sir Pascal de Parravon, lieutenant, paymaster, and BSB>Ignace le Brûlant, vow-of-silence escort of Lady Eleanor>Lady Eleanor Dufleuve, Grail Damsel>Melzar the Mad, Battlemage and former dragon hunter who drags around a baby dragon on a chain to use as a flamethrower (Wyrmbreath Vial)>Sir Gaspard d’Artois, First Knight and company champion>Sir Raynaud de Gisoreux, bannerman of the knights on foot>Sir Poton le Gris, KOTR of Mousillon, commands the 2nd cavalry unit>Sir Carrouges la Hire, KOTR of Lyonesse, commands the 3rd cavalry unit>Saint-Denis, Grail Monk who lost his eye in battle and now, in its place, sees glimmers of true visions of the lives of the Grail Companions>>94786219True, he's been on horseback since childhood, but a skilled duelist could best him on foot.>>94786284Pas de tout, leafmunching savage.
>>94786306>Le Gris>CarrougesI see what you did there. The Hatchling on a Chain is a neat idea, but how common are battle mages pre-Magnus the Pious? Especially with Bretonnians.
>>94786306I should add, this army is being built with exactly $0.00 given to James Workshop and his affiliates.>>94786353Based knower. Them being from Mousillon and Lyonesse is another hint. For now, they're just friendly rivals. The other halves of their names come from these bros.
>>94786390Which proxies do you use? Granted theres a nice selection of Bretonnian models and without the silly gorgets and bucket helmets.
>>94786400A healthy mix of Perrys, various crusade ranges, and Monstrous Encounters for my mook knights. Also, Chang. That QK Paladin champion and the new BSBs are too good to proxy.
>>94786423Those are solid yeah. Fuck Geedubya.
>>94786353As for the battlemage, Melzar the Mad, he's an Estalian pyromaniac pyromancer of (long-since exiled and disowned–I wonder why?) noble birth, entirely self-taught, and crazy as shit. The soldiers give him a wide berth and he's never allowed in a unit. He works in exchange for unrestricted access to any magical tomes and artifacts the company finds.>>94786471It looks surprisingly cohesive in style and scale, only annoying thing is the bottoms of the Perrys and their egregious mold lines, but they're worth it. Once everything is fully painted it'll look amazing.
>>94786251I can? whats the catch?also yea, having a mainly orc force could be fun. Still missing that chaos flavor I really like, also if I fully lean into the savage stuff there wont be much story potential. I plan on a long campaign with my partner
>>94786506Estalia makes sense then I guess (I dont know better but Sienna is from there or something).
>>94786547The catch is that your Warriors army will be even more stinky.
>>94786547WoC and BM can take each other as allies in either direction. To do so, 25% of your army can be dedicated to the ally. BUT it must be a fully functional army (General + 25% core + Special Rare) so it is difficult to fit in non core
>>94786245just pick beastmen already. the only narrative that matters is your own
>>94783491Still waiting on this Anon to post his army. It's been nearly 8 hours, surely you'll post one soon, right?
>>94786601Just make a 10.000pt army
>>94786610>It's been nearly 8 hoursTo be fair it's been night for 8 hours in Europe.
>>94786245Go Orcs & GoblinsFor bonus points go nomads with loads of frenzied boars
>>94786245Just run beastmen models as marauders in warriors. No one allies in this game so don’t even stress on it.
>>94786601>BUT it must be a fully functional armyI thought you could just put one unit of core and one general? There goes my idea for my Slaanesh army
>>94786610Keep in mind this is 4chanVery few anons who post in any thread actually play what they decide to insert an opinion on
BAKING a fresh thread.
>>94786601Also worth mentioning giant spawn, hounds, spawn, ogres, trolls and dragon ogres are shared across factions
>>94786622>fell for the 'Europe is real' psyop>>94786637Yes Anon, I know, that's what I'm alluding too.
>>94786635Assume a 2k army25% of your army must be core so 500/4 is 125 points of coreThen you need a characters one of which is a general which is up to 50% of your army, so a max of 250 pointsNaturally, you want a decent character and the 125 of core can make it hard to fit in Special or Rare
Errantry into the new Thread:>>94786663>>94786663>>94786663>>94786663
>>94786667The other issue with allies is you only have 500pts so all those per 1k options are out the window
>>94786667Oh, I just want a single Gorebull and 2 Minotaurs, I thought you meant there was a minimum Special/Rare pull too. Guess I'm fine then
>>94783822Greater Daemon of AI slop
>>94786245When your dudes go full monstrous savagery they lose the ability to have any impact in a story aside from burning, looting and killing. This is natural. That's literally what monstrous savagery means.
