Repanse de Lyonesse Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwh WM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgeba WFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6 Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H Warhammer Chronicles: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zipTime of Legends: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zipET: https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zipTOW: https://gofile.io/d/ffbanDhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL >Previous Thread >>94778546>TQ:Do Grail Damsels wash once a week or once a month?
Speaking of alliesWhy do TK associate with Beastmen and Chaos?
>TQThey wash themselves daily in beastmen seed, Weekly in ogre stew, and finally yearly in green skin dung.
Thread Question that isn't ass>What are you predictions for the High Elf armies of infamy, and what new model do you think they'll get
>TQAs seldom as their lord likes, as the Lady commands.>>94786686Kangz are currently being railroaded into Ravening Hordes despite being neither ravening nor a horde
>>94786694>new modelsHere’s hoping a new dragon. I remember seeing one of those shitty dragons costing like $20 before the old world launched, now it’s like $120.
>be massive Jeanneboo>learn about Repanse>fall in love>discover she's been dead for centuries and get devastated >TOW announced as taking places centuries in the past>oh shit is she in it?>still dead for centuriesI've no words for how much that fucked with me
>>94786740She can come back to life with chaos or vampire counts.
>>94786390my boy Ben would probably walk away from /ourdudes/ encounter in Tilea with strong opinions about Bretonnians, both positive and negative.
>>94786771>that big river from Parravon all the way through Athel LorenApocalypse Now/Heart of Darkness spinoff about a Questing Knight being sent via boat by a Damsel to take out a Grail Knight and his Grail Pilgrims deep within Athel Loren, just to discover he has become the lunatic Prophet of a tribe of Sprites?
>>94786759I'd prefer not.
>>94786787>fallen Grail KnightLiterally not possible unless you mean a Grail Knight pretender
>>94786834Too late, she will be defiled.
>>94786862Not fallen, but gone bonkers because of Forest Magic while venturing into Athel Loren. In this correlation, the Grail Knight would be musing on Scripture and philosophize on his role in the Ladies plans, but deep down knowing he has failed his purpose and should be destroyed.
>>94786922Grail Knights are 100% incorruptible. I guess he could be being tortured or puppeted somehow and calling out through prayer for someone to kill him though
>>94786694They'll get the merwyrm.There will be a lothern seaguard army of infamy.There will either be a chrace or caledorian army of infamy.The shitty plastic dragon kit will be the permanent kit, with a MTO of imrik.
>>94786933They are incorruptible but not immune to their enviorment suffering from magic fuckery and being cursed by powerful magic.
>>94786708The worst gw dragon by miles
>>94786759>chaosImpossible. She's already a champion of LotL, once you reach that point there's no turning back and no deity other than the one you serve can lay claim to you.>undeadAlmost impossible. Krell is an oddity in that he was a fallen champion spurned by his god, and was raised by Nagash. He's an extraordinary exception.
>>94786986Plenty.
>>94786986Very. Possibly groomed and perfumed but still, very.
>>94786686canon reason is enemy of my enemy bullshitmeta reason is that its easier to call the egyptian murder skeletons evil and put them in the evil army book
>>94786759>she can be completely ruinedshame on you for suggesting that. Repanse cannot be evil, as she's clearly based on Jeanne, who lest we forget, was not Engl*sh
In WFRP 4e, is it better to focus my experience on the Channeling or the Language skill for spellcasting?
>>94786694Here's hoping they bring back some old models as a Regiment of Renown like the Dwarfs did.
>>94787439Ask /gwsg/
>>94787120TK are in a weird neutral position where they're basically fantasy libertarians, they only fuck shit up if someone steals or breaks their shit. Don't violate the NAP and shit on the bone boomer lawns and you won't get ripped in half by a sphinx, simple as
>>94786708>>94786943>>94787471You think Asarnil the Dragonlord is coming back? Either as a new kit or a MTO of his old metal. He's both a High Elf riding a dragon who was active in the Great War and later a Regiment of Renown choice, seems like a natural choice.
>>94787511It's likely. It's a much loved model. It's hard to know if it would be mto or permanent and a special characters. Also unclear whether it comes back as metal or resin. Galrauch was meant to come back in metal, but he's still not been released. I would really love it if the generic plastic talisman dragon came back for other factions and hopefully the full metal wood elf dragon comes back I really regret selling mine.Also I would lover if we got emperor dragons and the fw or citadel big dragons get rereleased
Finished the map of Kronhavn!>Established two centuries earlier by Dwarves of Clan Kettleforge hailing out of Zhufbar, their Clanfather had been on a diplomatic journey from Zhufbar to Talabheim, when trying to cross the Stir opposite Unterbaum with the help of Fishermen from the same town, the Clanfathers boat struck submerged rocks and sank, drowning the Dwarf and his companions. Grieved and Wroth at this terrible accident and the treachery of the grand River, the remaining Dwarves of the Group swore a Grudge against the Stir itself, which could only be satisfied by providing save passage across it's unpredictable waters exactly ninethousandninehundredandninetynine times. They had soon built a respectable ferry harbor and named it Kronhavn, Grudge Port in Khazalid, which not only offered a convenient crossing into Talabecland, but also a safe outpost west of Klam. The leader of Clan Kettleforge's local Grudge Settlers swore friendship and common cause with the Baron of Stirwacht at the time, an Alliance which still endures to this day, just as the steam ferry operated by the Clan still makes the journey across the river every now and then, when demand is high enough. While the small Dwarven Colony endures, only about 80 Dawi inhabit Kronhavn, whereas a far larger contingent of humans has settled around the original dwarven Ferry. With less than 600 permanent inhabitants, Kronhavn is nevertheless the closest thing to a proper town in the Barony of Stirwacht, and the rowdy "Short Stool Inn" is a respectable stop for Stir Barges looking for a night on solid ground. Furthermore the Barony Courthouse is also located in Kronhavn, owing to most legal disputes arising in the town. The Town does not have an organized Militia, but the loosely organized Stirwacht Free Company is based nominally in Kronhavn.
>>94787511Warhammer certainly got the goofiest looking Dragons.
Why is Charge so fucking awful.
>>94787721Nsh they're great
Please for the love of Sigmar, someone link an Empire arcane journal download
>>94787758Scultpors threw a noodle at the wall and traced it onto paper.
To savage army anon, I think the wolves of the sea army of infamy could be close to what you're after since it allows Beastmen, unless cavalry is too civilized for you. Failing that it's either allies or proxies, pick either Beastmen or Warriors and add the others as allies or counts-as. Consider swapping heads around to make beasty Marauders, Gors... or go 6th edition instead so you can freely take what you like as a Horde of Chaos.
>>94787651'Kron' in 'Dammaz Kron' stands for 'book'. Khazalid for grudge is 'Dammaz', which is why grudge-raker shotguns are natively called 'Dammaz Thrund'. Consult your dictionary, you wazzock!
>>94787471Here's another Lothern unit they could bring back>>94787511Yeah it seems likely. He's fairly well known and they've brought back weirder stuff
>>94787864Man do I feel silly now.But theres an easy fix, Kronhavn is short for Dammaz Kron Havn, Port of the Grudge Book, good thing I am a genius.
>>94787651what do they eat
>>94787502That's not really true of all of them though. Many tomb kings are expansionist or fighting to reclaim land which was once part of their vast empire.
>>94787960Your mom's pussy.
>>94787981Theres also dozens and sometimes hundreds who ruled the same place at different times so they naturally seek to conquer new places at times.
>>94787906Barak Dammazaz would be a more fitting name, that literally translates to 'Port of the Grudge'.
>>94787758Where is that bottom dragon from?
>>94788002I GRUDGINGLY consneed that it is indeed a more fitting name and will correct the record to where it shall be Barak Dammazaz originally, but Grudgehaven is the commonly used name!
>>94788033That the old Fire Dragon from Forge World.
>>94788073>>94788033>>94787758>>94787621There's an absolutely mad Australian who plays vampire counts that's been working on a fire dragon conversion...
>>94788259Goddamn.
>>94787759if you can read french or german you can download it for free on the community website
>>94788397It's not up yet is it?
I just picked up Felix. What should I run him as in a dwarf army alongside Gotrek in ToW? I know Gotrek subs easily as a slayer hero but what should Felix be?
Fucking mobile gdi
>>94788537You'll get no arguments here. We're more Brotherhood of Nod on this website, Anon.
>TK vs Bretswell this is fucking stupid
>>94788533Do you want them side by side?Can you use allies?
>>94787960Fish, game, eggs and chicken
>>94788259What a sickcunt
>>94788755I would like to try to have them side by side, even if . What kind of allies would work thematically?
>>94786740absolute miss that one, sadly. we could even get her as the poster child for "see there are female bretonnian lords" for all the twitter bots
>>94788815James should just go fucking nuts and have her be reborn Valten-style
>>94786740>she's been dead for centuriesI think it's vague on that front over whether the blessing of the lady made her life unnaturally long
>>94786663There's something that bothers me in the pic>Battle standard is flowing leftwards>Its holders cape is flowing backwardsWhere is the wind blowing from exactly?
>>94788882the wind in warhammer is a conscious elemental and flowing where it's most needed for cinematic effect
>>94788533Either run him as another slayer or just mostly ignore him, like a unit filler or scenery. Similar thing for a wizard's familiar or knight's attendant.
>>94788882What do you expect from sloppa? anons should post original Warhammer art in the OP, sourced from army and rule books, lest they be branded a faggot. OP is a faggot.
>>94788964a few threads ago some anon was calling 'adrian Smith art Sloppa so you simply can't win
>>94788999Do you think GW and their employees are incapable of producing sloppa? If so I've got some real bad news for you.
>>94789005>do you think GW and their employees are incapable of producing sloppa?no but when complain about art quality of OP and say OP images should only be from GW sources and then also complain when that happens doesn't add anything to the thread
>>94789014There's an incomparable difference between the classic art from the army books of the WHFB era to whatever crap the numales GW hired in the '10s and '20s shit out, though.
>>94788882He's probably swooshing the standard.
>>94789047There's plenty of good art from even through the early to mid 2010's.
>>94789065GW stopped making WFB art by the mid-2010s so i don't think that a great metric on the decline of art quality by GW over the last decade if not two decades
>>94788259>>94788273>>94788781He's started painting.
>>94789207nice
>>94786663While I like this pic, the only thing I don't like about it are the Ushabti and the Necrosphinx.Guess the reason.
GW selling Wood Elves again yet or still stuck in ebay rescue purgatory?
>>94789248not yet i think Wood Elves might be the last main army released considering we know High Elves are next and Beastmen have already been teased
>>94787511I hope so, would be tempted to grab it for my DoW army (though transporting it for games would be a bitch)
How does the aos kruelboyz look next to black orcs? ..Have been thinking of using them as standard boys as I have a bunch of them, and I have the old black orcs
>>94789373They're very tallI doubt anyone would have a problem with them standing in for a unit of boys, but they're going to be weird lanky boys, not really properly orcish, perhaps half-orcish an orc could say
>>94787502>TK are in a weird neutral positionlolno. TK are very fucking evil, its a faction of sociopathic undead conquerors
It's weird that marauders don't have any armour by default, but berserkers come packed with light armour. Why wouldn't they let you take a unit of naked berserkers?
>>94789607My theory is that it has to do with game balance. Berserkers are already just better marauders because they're skirmishers and you can have as many of them as you want to have. If you shaved off the 1 point per model their light armour costs they would just completely replace regular marauders.
>>94789480Hmm.. yea might look a bit wierd, also with a mix regular orc on boars and stuff
>Uchabti only come with one set of armsWhat's a proxy for their arms?
>>94787337>>94786759>>94788832>>94786740TWW is officially lore'd by GW and TWW says Repanse is some kind of female Grail Knight who has lived for hundreds of years.
>>94786933Elf pussy
>>94789760for every unit of snakes you get, you get spare big arms for big guys
>>94789769TWW is not taking the timeline that seriously.
>>94789769>TWW is officially lore'dNot really, they've openly stated their inclusion of some heroes is not made with any sort of lore justification or retcon in mind, it's explicitly a super smash bros situation for them
>>94786933>Grail Knights are 100% incorruptible
>>94786740Unironically touch grass
>>94787960what >>94788773 said, they eat a lot of fish, crustaceans, duck, whatever the inland farmers can scrounge together and sell on the Market day.>>94787651Fixed the name of the Town, to my great shame, and to the shame of the Town Scribes who had made the error, it was a mistranslation and utter nonsense.>>94787864 but this Azumgi corrected it.
>>94789857Why does a dwarf town have a dwarf quarter?
>>94789898Its only 80 dwarfs on 500 humans.
>>94789785GW has to sign off on everything.
>>94789837Oh I do that all the time, but exaggerating your feelings regarding specific elements of your hobby to people that can appreciate that is still fun, and healthy. You should try that out anon. If you want want the actual way things played out it was>interested in Jeanne d'Arc, within the context of bith the 100 Years War and the religious mindframe of the 15th century>find out a Bret character is loosely based on her, and think it neat>she's a historically dead character with an ancient model>TOW still taking place centuries after her death mean her model is unlikely to be updated>think that's a bummerSatisfied? Personally I don't think that's anywhere as funny as bitching and moaning over plastic toy soldiers
>>94786694>what new model do you think they'll getDidn't we already see the model in a leak? It was a guy with a big axe iirc
>>94790104Thats not a new model. Korhils from like 7th ed.
>>94789936Yes, that doesent change that vlad/gorbad/azhag/repanse are dead. The game is not canon, skarbrand isnt running around the southlands or whatever. Festus isnt ruling over half the northern empire.
>>94790221> Festus isnt ruling over half the northern empire.Could have fooled me, it’s the only explanation as to why the empire is so fucked.
>>94786943other than the merwyrm I think that is too obvious to be correct, the same as people who thought dwarfs would get a slayer army. The units will be contrived around a narrative and probably won't even be based around kingdoms/units. It'll be something like 'elf colonial garrison' with 'gatewatchers' or some shit which is reavers with stubborn. I could even see some kind of intelligence army with shadow warriors and Teclis who are investigating Kul.
>>94790312Teclis isn't important at this point in the timeline so the High Elves are unlikely to get him back as a special character.
>>94790333I don't think any of the arcane journal heroes have been 'important' it's just what the new lore encourages and other than Teclis no elves at the time were very outward looking. They also can't be matched against dark elves so nothing in the Ulthuan or Naggaroth spheres will be touched upon, so it's pretty much elves in ports from Mairenburg to Laurelorn or Erengrad, or possibly the middle of who knows where in the southlands. A merwyrm suggests some kind of sea force and chaos are really the only antagonists to the elfs at sea. Put two and two together and Teclis makes some sense, we also haven't had a mega wizard character yet.
>>94790221>vladRsurrected himself>GorbadOrcs are built different>AzhagHe specifically follows the crown's path and you can change his destiny>RepanseLady made her immortal so she can get captured and fucked by ratmen forever.
>>94790369>other than Teclis no elves at the time were very outward lookingFinubar is already Phoenix King at this point so he is already trying to project outward force in the Old World(going by the core rulebook or the FoF)you also ignore all the Sea bases GW added to the map like Tor Anrok in the Badlands or Tor Martel off the coast of Mouilssion so I don't think GW need Teclis's character to try and justify the greater interventionist behaviour of the High Elves
>>94790404>tor anrok in the Badlandswe've already had two greenskin scenarios so it seems unlikely. >tor martel off the coast of mousillon had two bretonnian scenarios also
>>94790459my argument was more that Teclis doesn't needed to be added to TOW in this Arcane journel since we are still a ways off from the Battle of fineval plains(if GW dains to include the DE at some point) and his actions leading up to the great war against ChaosGW is more likely just to make a new Sea Elf mage for their uses in some Sea Patrol or Seas Elf list
Does anyone know what's going on with Black Market Miniatures?
Still thinking about how to do a proper "losses" system in a campaign without it getting too snowbally. Ideally something like "every model/unit lost has a chance to stay dead" with some modifiers here and there maybe. But Im worried that this will make one bad loss a complete campaign/army ender, and make losing once essentially ensure a loss a 2nd time and im not sure how to resolve that. Maybe add an option to retreat? Ending the battle early to preserve forces but conceding the current battle? But that could be abused by ranged factions, fire off a couple volleys and retreat before they get to you. I was thinking giving smaller forces (due to losses) the ability to deploy 2nd and go first, but I dont know if thats really a big enough advantage to make the odds more or less even.
>>94790844Basically I guess the issue is that you want to have both a meaningful cost for losses/benefit for wins, since thats the point of a campaign. But you also dont want a lockout where jim wins game 1/2 vs brian and now brian may as well concede games 3-7 because hes infinitely far behind and cant win. More specifically with the losses and possible retreat stuff, you want to have armies rewarded for winning enough to make suffering on through losses worth it/not just make "I fire one turn of shooting then conecede turn two" the meta, but also not force everyone to suicide themselves every time.
>>94790844Most campaign systems that have losses provide for the behind persons to win more if they do manage to pull off a victory against the oddsSomething like their characters for being superior tacticians or can rally their forces become exceptionally stronger
>>94790919Sure, that could be useful. But does that stop one washout just ending the campaign? For something more narrative/two player I can see that "working" in the sense that "well, if one player just absolutely rolls the other one match you essentially do a sudden death situation, and the next game is about tiny remnants trying to escape/hold off for as long as possible, GG" could be possible. But what if you have a bigger scale thing? Like 4-5 players? I dont know if that sort of sudden elimination stuff can work as well there.
Resin TOW characters out next week along with the rest of the Empire release>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0drukjdc/sunday-preview-the-full-fury-of-the-empire-of-man-plus-extra-fury-from-the-imperium-of-mankind/
>>94790975Greatsword Captain is neat.
>>94790844I don't know what campaign rules you're using, but when I did a 40k campaign during 9th ed, we came up with the idea that losing players can requisition more units from their faction but they'd be basic, no-frills units to start. But then, 9th's campaign had things where units would earn better WS/BS/other enhancements as they survived. So veteran units were definitely stronger, but we didn't want people to feel left out and gave them the ability to at least field the same number of units.>>94790844A retreat option is always good. Ranged armies firing and fading, conceding battles to try to win the war would be frustrating to play against. But if the rewards for winning are your units gain more experience and get better while the retreating army gets les that's fine. As well as whatever overarching campaign benefits you can get for winning and seizing territory.
>>94790997interesting they shipping it with plastic Engineer as a double packI guess due to both of them having moulded 20mm bases?
>>94791005>I don't know what campaign rules you're usingNone in particular. The closest would be that thing MWG did for their mini campaign. Which was a very basic "accurate losses" thing. Iirc it was something like:Losses are tracked on a per model basis. After each game you roll for each destroyed unit and lost model. For a destroyed unit on a 5+ it comes back. For a lost model on a 4+ it comes back (or something to that effect), and then at the start of each game you could also reinforce your army with some requisitions. Basic troops were easier to reinforce than elite units. >Ranged armies firing and fading, conceding battles to try to win the war would be frustrating to play against.It would, and its certainly something in concerned about. But its also something I think is interesting and "realistic". Because yes, thats what some armies do, firing and fading away to wear the enemy down. Its just a case of finding a way for there to still be some loss to it, maybe artillery is too slow to always safely withdraw with (can hardly hit and run with a fucking cannon yea?) or as you say maybe the "loss" is in simply forfeiting whatever the reward of winning the battle is.
>>94791058Also, regarding reinforcements. I think having some armies/units be easier to reinforce would make sense. Undead can probably replenish more after a win (raising the dead) but have a harder time replenishing after a loss (since they have to flee the battlefield).Dark elves would probably get some sort of benefit for "captirves", so some sort of campaign currency or requisition benefit for enemy casualties after a win.Wood elves would probably have a harder time reinforcing because theyre so elite, but have an easier time retreating because theyre sneaky skirmishers. That sort of thing.
>>94791058>>Ranged armies firing and fading, conceding battles to try to win the war would be frustrating to play against.>It would, and its certainly something in concerned about. But its also something I think is interesting and "realistic". Because yes, thats what some armies do, firing and fading away to wear the enemy down. Its just a case of finding a way for there to still be some loss to it, maybe artillery is too slow to always safely withdraw with (can hardly hit and run with a fucking cannon yea?) or as you say maybe the "loss" is in simply forfeiting whatever the reward of winning the battle is.Wood Elves seem exactly like the sort that would fire and fade. But it would be up to you to insure they get pushed up against the wall (metaphorically) and have some ground they can't bear to see overrun. Like a sacred grove they're protecting.
>>94791058Any unit that survived should also get a roll to simulate them getting run down after the battle.
>>94790975I'm an Empirelet, is the single Sigmar Priest an older/newer edition release compared to the pack of 3?
>>94791122I think he's a newer sculpt. I own two of the three pack in metal (and also made the mistake of getting the greathammer guy in finecast; never, never, never buying shitcast again.)
>>94791120That could be interesting, maybe have different risks based on what sort of unit you have (fast cav have no issues escaping, artillery on the other hand would be in great danger)
>>94790501nothing's going on, their site is just finicky
>>94791051Yes, they may include a bare 25mm though
Is the square in the giants sprue the base for the giant
>>94791224they will>Both miniatures come with moulded 20mm bases which you can trim and set on the 25mm square base included in the blister pack.
>>94791142Maybe do something like keep track of how long a unit has left the battle for too, and the longer theyve escaped relative to the duration of the battle the easier it is for them to avoid being run down.So something like:>Retreat!>At the start of your turn, before any actions or phases are taken, any units may choose to disengage and flee the field in a controlled manner. >Any unit may disengage provided it is within 12" of the board edge of the players deployment zone or 6" of any other board edge and not engaged in close combat. Unbreakable or frenzied units (that have not lost frenzy) may not disengage, they are too brave or bloodthirsty to do such a thing. >The unit is instantly removed from the battlefield, and counts as destroyed for the purposes of calculating victory points. However it will not cause any panic tests or yield any additional rewards post-battle unless caught. >Place a marker next to the unit representing their making an escape.>If a unit wishes to disengage while within 8" of an enemy unit it must take a leadership test as if it were attempting to march while close to an enemy. Units which do not test for march-block do not need to take the leadership test.>At the start of every turn, add a counter to every unit that has disengaged>if all remaining units disengage then the battle is immediately concluded at thee nd of the opponents next turn>At the end of the battle, if the enemy has send pursuers roll for every unit on the disengage chart to see if they withdrew safely.
>>94791282And models in units without command could also have Ld checks to see if they are even motivated enough to return.
>>94791282>Disengage chart1: Run down - the pursuers have caught the unit and it was run down. The unit is considered destroyed for the purposes of losses and will award full post-battle rewards2-3: Harried - the pursuers have not managed to catch the unit, but have harassed it. All models must take a dangerous terrain test as if they fled through an enemy unit, with wounds suffered counting towards losses and post battle rewards.4-6: Clean escape - the unit has successfully disengaged and takes no damage. It suffers no further damage for the purpose of losses or post battle rewards. Artillery suffer -1 to the roll due to their ponderous and slow nature. Light cavalry, skirmishers and open order infantry add +1 to the roll due to their greater mobility.For every turn that a unit has spent after disengaging it adds +1 to the roll. >get them!An army may send pursuers after the enemy. To do this select a unit within 6" of the opponents table edge at the start of the turn and remove it from play. If a fast cavalry unit is removed from play this way all enemy disengage rolls are done at a further -1 penalty. If a unit is removed as a pursuer it awards no further victory points for the enemy provided the game ends in a victory or draw. if the game were instead a loss the unit provides FULL victory points, and is considered destroyed for the purposes of losses and post battle rewards.
>>94791321I feel like that disadvantages certain units somewhat unfairly. Some units just dont have command options.
>>94791336Although, speaking off. Having monsters "sustain" damage between games could be a decent idea. So if your giant took three wounds in one game, it starts the next game with three wounds down, or maybe heals a bit of that damage between games.Same goes for dragons or whatever. Surviving on one wound means starting the next game with one wound left.
>>94791150I wasn't able to use it the past few days but it seems to be back up now. I panicked 'cos I placed an order a few weeks back and thought they got shut down which would've been a ballache.
>>94789480Everything in AoS that isn't a rat, a night goblin, or a select few WoC is sickening to behold.
>>94791371There was a Bret short story I posted in the previous thread that had an Arachnarok on its last legs get finished off by some peasants during a forest goblin ambush
>>94791453>a night goblinspeaking of, we're seeing more revealed tomorrow
>They are all made of Forge World r*sin
>>94791568all the new models are special characters so that's a given same for Necromunda and HH
>>94786663I want to start a Norscan army. Fimir, War Mammoths, etc. My problem is most of the Minis are OOP and I like the forgeworld style over the 3D printed stuff so anyone know any good recasters?
>>94791466Sure that was last thread? Didnt see anything about spiders
Is Settra cool?
>>94791629https://files.catbox.moe/xoptlg.txt
>>94791653he's pretty hot I mean, look at the abs
>>94791663>Abs impressive on a 0% body fat bodySure anon
>>94791663>I mog SettraIncredible feel
>>94791678on a 5000 years old body, yes, they're mighty impressive you won't find abs like those anywhere else in nehekhara
>>94791663No wonder some random norse chieftain killed him, look at that scrawny fuck.
>>94787981>being expansionist or reconquering is evilGood news none of the Good Guys do that!
>>94791691>>94791718You don't understand, pic related is the leftover abs of the top percentile of khemrians, considering the extent settra preserved that must mean he was built like a literal god of gainsprobably one of his titles too
>>94791813>, pic related is the leftover abs of the top percentile of khemrians>an entire civilization of lanky fucksno wonder their kingdom fell.
>>94787502>TK are in a weird neutral positionYea, theyre only brutal undead conquerors that want to enslave the world, not at all like those evil vampires that want to do *checks notes* literally the same thing. TK being neutral is a thing which was the case for a singular edition, 8th.
>>94791623Fimir have no ties to norsca, secondary-kun.
>>94791851to be fair, they're not particularly more evil than any other random human empire with an expansionist mirevampires are because they want to spread undeath, doom life as we know it and treat people like cattle and act like degenerate cancers in a society chaos are also evil because they similarly spread unnatural mutagenic essences of devils and make sacrifices to said evil godsI do wish kangs had something along that line, like harvesting people's flesh and bone for their preservation rites or something
>>94791917>to be fair, they're not particularly more evil than any other random human empire with an expansionist mireYes, but at the same time a human empire which acts the way the nehekharans tomb kings did would be evil. >vampires and chaosAre evil because they want to conquer and pillage everyone, not because theyre undead or have tentacles. The norse would be exactly as evil with or without the magic. Vlad would be as evil if he was just a human usurper who declared himself emperor and tried to conquer the empire that way.
Everyone post your general. Picture of the mini, name, maybe some lore.Lets see who leads everyones forces!
>>94792005This is one of my 3 Vampire generals, Count Siegfried the Butcher. A Blod Dragon if it wasnt obvious.
>>94792050Count of what?
>>94791831in the Nagash books one of the cities has 7ft tall warriors.
>>94792058I dont know kek. I dont really write specific lore for my characters although I like to imagine he lives in a spooky castle in the Border Princes.
>>94792085That is fair.
Are beastmen plentiful in the chaos wastes? Or are they mostly around nature.
>>94792005Grey Seer on bell He takes great joy in using his magic to shred the enemy by using the ogre blade and spectral doppelgangerSo far he has never died and has slain combat characters while confounding terrifying foes into being incapable of charging.
>>94792124>Are beastmen plentiful in the chaos wastes?Yes.
>>94792124Gotrek and Felix implies theres lots of Beastmen in the Chaos Wastes, but newer lore is unclear on that.
>>94786663Which faction in Warhammer would have slave rings?>If the wearer swears loyalty to you while wearing it, it binds them to your will >They cannot go against you or it will hurt like hell >Character uses it during sex with a guy and pleads for him to be loyal to her while she sneaks it onto his finger
>>94792315Dark Elves.
>>94792315Delfs. Chorfs, WoC, and Orcs would just beat their slaves into submission, a delf would get off on mindbreaking a slave into something approaching voluntary loyalty
how to achieve that polished brass look on the front right cannon? balthasar gold and then some?im a pretty average painter so id settle for the tone, no need for polished/ glance effects.
>>94791861I'm pretty sure Fimir can be found anywhere where a marshy foggy Forlourn coast exists(except Ulthuan) which Norsca should have in spades
>>94792353>a delf would get off on mindbreaking a slave into something approaching voluntary loyaltyProbably not. But a dark elf also wouldnt use that ring on an actual slave, but rather a retainer or rival.
>>94792383There are loads of them within the bounds of the Empire and Bretonnia as well, but they're so stealthy and well-hidden that they're believed to be a myth, as they only ever leave the swamps under cover of heavy fog. I 'member there was a short lore blurb about a newlywed bride being >"abducted" by them and the husband being hanged for her murder because nobody believed him.Fimir are in a weird spot in terms of tabletop rules because they're supposed to be somewhere between an Orc and an Ogre in strength and size based on Warhammer Quest. I think proxying them as Ogres is the way to go, as they're described as easily being able to knock down a grown man with a single swipe of a tail and they move in small groups.
>>94792459>they're supposed to be somewhere between an Orc and an Ogre in strength and size based on Warhammer Quest.which is due to a modelling and production problem back in the 2nd edition of WFB I think were they were understated for their size and cost on the table
>>94792375think GW used to have a paint called fulgurite metal or something which was a bright brass, but I'd consider scale 75 metals they have the best reflectivity I've seen for metallics.
>>94792501do you think Fimir dicks are shaped like their tails?
>>94792617No. They have weird crocodile lizard dicks
>>94792617Considering that tail shapes change between the models I would guess not
>>94792617>>94792624I looked up crocodile dicks and they're actually remarkably similar in shape to their tails. So I guess we're both right
>>94792649Enjoy your targeted ads for the next week or so anon
>>94788259> incorrect base sizeSHANT BE PLAYIN HIM
>>94792655
>>94792459>>"abducted"We have established rape, in fact, does not exist, so they succesfully courted her and she followed them willingly.
>>94792701if we go by the Warpstone lore for the Fimir that isn't completely incorrect in all cases
>>94792728Didn't that have a bunch of witches/chaos sorceresses willingly getting gangbanged by Fimir in exchange for magical knowledge/power from the Fimir matriarchs?
>>94792737yeah
Is it possible to put a rider on this guy? Its the coolest of the Zombie Dragons but it doesnt look like it would accomodate a rider mini
>>94792778I think you'd be better putting the rider standing on the base, the model is extremely awkward to have someone on it
>>94789227Because they look like flesh and blood creatures rather than constructs?
>>94791861Fimir like where it's cold, dark and wet- both the marshes and the crags. They're from before the coming of the old ones. Southern Norsca is perfect themPlus it's not like we're getting a fimir faction so the Irish bog daemons have to go to the Norscans.
>>94792315If you're looking for RP purposes, I think Tzeentch or Slaanesh cults especially could have some story potential there. Slip it on and yes, you get power. Start to think you still have an independent mind however... Of course the cult leader will be only too happy to stop the punishment - provided you do exactly what s/he tells you to do.Slaves To Darkness, after all
>>94791559I want that troll.
>>94792870Bingo.
>>94792659>incorrect base sizeIt's on a 100x150 as is correct for a vampire dragon.Hillariously he's also removable and on a solid steel 50x50 so he can use him in 6th.
>>94791559>Troll gathering snotlingsI'm really mad we didn't get smaller troll heroes
How many cathayan culture signifiers should I add to a unit of ogres that acted as mercenaries in Cathay? Specifically an ironblaster, so far I think I'm going to give him a custom gut plate, try sculpting a dragon's head at the end of the cannon, and maybe give him a fu man chu. Should I add more?
>Accidentally stumble on the Auric Bastionwhat the fuck is this retarded ass Attack on Titan shit and who came up with such drivel? I hope they are barred from ever writing anything again. God damn I hate the Troon Times so much.
>>94793006maybe some Mandarin hats, maybe sculpts some Queue ponytails, Chinese style shoes I guess is another option
>>94793006manchu queue is always fitting, could also add ribbons to their pommels, give them crude Dao blades, Bamboo armor on the arms and legs if you're feeling adventurous. There's really no limit.
>>94793006>ironblasterGiant firecracker.
>>94793017this is the canon outcome no matter what james shitjob retcons.Archaon:Thou losest labour:As easy mayst thou the intrenchant airWith thy keen sword impress as make me bleed:Let fall thy blade on vulnerable crests;I bear a charmed life, which must not yield,To one of woman born.Grimgor:Despair thy charm;And let the angel whom thou still hast servedTell thee, Macduff was from his mother's wombUntimely ripp'd.
>>94793188>Greatest of chaos champions, filled with the power of the pantheon, riding a demon dragon that has grown monstrous after dining on the greatest of the pantheon servants.Gets his shit pushed in by a really 'ard Orc who's bored.
>>94786663Why is Repantsu fighting kangz anyway?
>>94793213Brettonia Crusades
>>94793212Archaon is not such an insufferable mary sue in Storm of Chaos, he was a chump on a demon horse with a statline on a sheet, who got gobsmacked by a green gorilla with a magic axe who also had a statline on a sheet that happened to win out in a fair matchup.Only Geedubya would throw out the legit results of a Tabletop Event for their tabletop wargame and instead come up with the most cringe inducing dumpster fire in traditional fantasy.
I remember hearing the name "Age of Sigmar" for the first time ages ago, and feeling that brief jolt of elation, in my naivety I thought it would be a spinoff in the same vein of the Horus Heresy, instead detailing the titular "Age of Sigmar" and the unification of the Empire, the Battle of Blackfire Pass as its climax.Boy I can not put my disappointment into words when I got a glimpse of what it really was.
Would it make sense for empire engineers to get corrupted by Hashut? tempted to sculpt a chorf beard on one and add some accessories. He'd be an autist obsessed with trains
>>94793310that Engineer sounds by like he got corrupted by Slanesh rather than Hashut
>>94793266A historical warhammer would be awful albeit.
>>94791249Nothing?
>>94793266I thought the same, what a misleading title
>>94793338which Gaint Sprue anon?
>>94793310Hashut would not bother with Human engineers. Dawi Engineers would be more likely if at all.Plus Chorf Engineers don't actually work anything like Chorf Daemonsmiths, nothing in a Chorf Mechanism actually adheres to the natural laws of friction, thermodynamic or physics. Chorf engineering is all about bending the laws of nature and meshing them with the energies of chaos. A Chorf Engineer probably couldn't even build a regular functional steam engine. Same with Cannons and Rifles, a conventional Chorf Firearm would probably judt explode in the Chorf Engineers face because none of the materials or explosives they use are actually tuned to the legit physical capabilities required for the pressures involved.
>>94792617They're like ducks'But there's 5 of em
>>94793356Ale guzzler giant.
>>94793366the 50 by 75 base?that's from WFB it can work for TOW since Gaint can be taken on 50x75 bases
>>94793394Thanks
>>94793234why the fuck would anyone complain they ditched SoC and postponed the end of fantasy to 8th lamo. More kits came out in 8th than in the previous two editions combined.
>>94793365why were Fimir even in Heroquest?
>>94793449>postponed the end of fantasyFantasy didn't end with SoC?? It was a chapter in an ongoing story but chaostroons were so outraged they lobbied for the troontimes and cheered ad Fantasy was killed off so they could get Sigmarines.
>>94793479>chaostroons were so outraged they lobbied for the troontimes and cheered ad Fantasy was killed off so they could get Sigmarines.That is NOT fucking true. Fantasy was axed because the previous CEO Tom Kirby said it wasn't profitable.
>>94793511Doesnt matter whos at fault or who made the decision. Only one part of the Community was bitching and moaning about Storm of Chaos outcome.
>>94793529That doesn't mean they cheered for the end of the setting or stormcast, you knob.
>>94793548Not all of them, but plenty did.You can go into the archives and look at the discussions, look through the forums. Its not that long ago all the records are lost, even though memory is waning.
>>94792328>>94792353>>94792878https://youtu.be/5G-bYqkuEtY?t=168the scene in questionI think it would fit dark elves, albeit dark elves would have the sex be a lot more rough and kinky
>>94793479I like chaos and I think both the end times were stupidchaos players lost the storm of chaos, mathematically. GW was fucking with the results. Don't blame the players for the rules-writers mismanaging the game.
>>94793459>In short, Bryan Ansell came in one day with a sketch of a Zoat, and wanted the creatures added to WFRP as a new race which "to be as distinctive of Warhammer as the Broo are of Runequest". We already had Warriors of Chaos and the recently-released Skaven, so we writers thought Warhammer and WFRP were pretty safe on that score, and to be honest we didn’t find the sketch too inspiring. By the way, I vaguely remember that Bryan put a note on the sketch giving the pronunciation as “Zow-at.” I don’t know if anyone else spotted that at the time, but we all pronounced the name to rhyme with “goat” and as far as I know everyone else has done the same ever since.>Bryan was not discouraged by our lukewarm response to his idea. He told us that Zoats would have to go in, or we would have to come up with something else that satisfied the same requirements.>That was when Jes Goodwin, Tony Ackland, and I began to develop the Fimir.And then they probably added the fimir to heroquest to make it "warhammer" instead of generic fantasy
>>94789607>>94789683That's fair. I would've liked spears and bows too for some historical style armies, but I imagine they'd have upset the balance with chaos' niche too. Plus I guess you can use ungors for that. Same with allying them to dwarfs/empire/kislev, it doesn't work with the game rules since they're good guys, but you could just ask your opponent nicely. The most significant exclusion for me is yhetees. Hopefully they get rolled in when Ogre Kingdoms are added to the game proper.
>>94793611I like Chaos to, I have been playing Beastmen since I was 12 years old but I was aware enough that killing the Fantasy Setting completely ruins any lived-in charme the factions had and AoS Beastment are pointless sidekicks to Archtroons Power Ranger Villains.Meanwhile you'd be surprised how many Chaos players in my LGS gleefully ripped their warriors off square bases to slap on to round ones.
>>94793266Which armies would really be different except the human ones?Warhammer has had rules for loads of characters who weren't alive in the "present" time so I'd prefer we just got rules for Sigmar himself and a couple of barbarian units which could be used in games.
>>94793310Hashut is a god of greed and tyranny. The industry aspect of chaos dwarfs is more because they're dwarfs
>>94793632That is so ridiculous I have been giggling like an idiot for a good minute. The image is also gold.
>>94793632wonder why Ansell was so enthused by the idea of Zoats since he also shoved them into 40k as well
>>94793310A dwarf god won't bother to waste his attention on manlings and their shoddy works.
>>94793655Good question, though I've been musing about a roster of "semi savage" Greenskins, which are somewhere in between the modern ones and savages. Could add proto Norscans that are less depraved and closer to Teutogens.Breton Horsemen tribes that are effectively fantasy Gauls, low tech Skaven, a roster of laurelorn elves that are thematically inbetween Wood Elves and High Elves.
>>94793449SoC wasn't meant to be the end of fantasy like ET, it was meant to be the beginning of a new, darker chapter with the empire in ruins. You can even see their plan for this timeline in WFRP
>>94793713>low tech skavenThey already had their tesla coils and other weird science stuff when they fought Nagash centuries before Sigmar's time.
>>94793747yeah maybe lets retcon that
I'll be real with you all, the Nagash Cinematic Universe is not exactly the best written of Warhammer literature and could do with a bit of pruning.
>>94793666This. Hashut would more likely turn to a druchii or a fat emperor and push them to abuse their authority more and more.The Chaos Dwarfs, despite everything, are more moderated by their nature as dwarfs and their focus on channeling their efforts into ever more industry
>>94793712Hashut's not really a dwarf god, he's just a demon who convinced a bunch of dwarfs to worship him.
>>94793713>>94793751You'd be better off setting the game even further in the past so you can have elves and dwarfs near their peak, living nehekarans, more primitive Greenskins and Skaven, mare Slann and dragons awake, barbarians just coming into the empire and Bretonnia, and Tileans as the main old world humans
>>94793686maybe he just considered his own idea very very original
>>94793632Ansell was absolutely unreal. What a fucking spastic
>>94793789He'd actually make a great orc or ogre god
>>94793798Burgeoning Empire of Remas would be fun.>>94793855>orc brothershow can orcs be brothers, also, wouldn't Gobbos imagine them to be Gobbos?
>>94793686horse cock
>>94792050how much did you spend on that recast?
https://workupload.com/start/RqwKkG3HRfX
>>94792375That looks like Screaming bell to me. With nihilak oxide on the recesses. I don't thin that has anything more fancy than a basecoat done. IT doesn't even look highlighted
>>94793855I still hope the Hobgoblins are revealed to worship some kind of sky god instead of gork and mork.>>94793864Goblins acknowledge their power but prefer to worship other deities such as the Bad Moon or The Spider God. (GW please give us a lore for the spider god in TOW. AoS had it)
>>94794131Say what you will about how the game plays, but I'm actually really enjoying how TOW portrays orcs. They could've gone with "war is all they think about and all they're capable of" as 40k is more and more becoming, but instead they gave them a bit more depth. Orcs still like war, but mostly because it's exciting and they're easily bored. They actually seem more believable as a society though, with the arcane journal explaining how orcs set up camp and make their machines, and the timeline describing them demanding tribute. It's neat to see them caring about money or things other than war, and also it makes more sense now how they can march for weeks or maintain a stronghold without the tribe imploding.
what gets me about the end times is that quite literally nobody likes it aside from GWit has ONE redeeming quality and thats "killed off fantasy instead of having it rot from the inside like 40k and letting it get ruined"either people dont really know about the end times (because GW doesnt want you learning about older games and editions) or they do and hate itTWW devs dislike endtimesVT2 devs dislike endtimes (to the point of even just going "yeah it didnt happen" ingame)yet whenever GW brings it up, they always go "it happened! it always happened! we need to confirm it happened!" because they need to validate age of sigmars existence
>>94793364That seems unlikely considering chorfs are plenty happy to sell weaponry to essentially any race. Outside other chaos shitters, not many are going to want a daemon in their firearm / artillery piece.
>>94794233>>94793364Also, the descriptions in the Chorf index don't agree with you. >The Chaos Dwarfs are masters of steam technology.>The Dreadquake’s deadly projectiles are fired by steam pressure that is generated by a boiler and contained within a pressure vessel.The magma cannon also is just a molten metal spewer. They are plenty capable of creating weapons with or without daemons or other sorcerous bullshit.
>>94794220End times were highly regarded and is still beloved. Why do you think they still print books for them?
Do any armies other than VC have worthwhile leadership debuff builds? TK and Empire both seem iffy.
>>94794292I think warriors
>>94794292WElves and DElves do a lot of Fear/Terror shenanigans
>>94793792>that's what ancestor idolators tell themselvesLol, lmao even.
are chaos giants supposed to be swingy?
>>94794174Flanderization of a Faction is never good. More news at 11. The only thing a simple faction is good for is a 20 second Lore "video" on some slopservice, and unfortunately thats the modern audience for 40kids and Aoshit.
>>94794406>he says in /wfg/
>>94794405Giants in general are pretty swingy with their random table. They're not reliable, but they are pretty funny.
>>94794425/wfg/ is the best place to discuss Warhammer.
>>94786663Would twins as conjoined as the OG Siamese Twins (Chang and Eng) be considered chaos mutated?
>>94793449>>94793479SoC was meant to be a new chapter for things but shit didnt go the way James Workshop expected and it resulted in a weird outcome. Instead of gw doubling down and following the new timeline they made, they just pretended it didnt happen. Also, I am pretty sure the only people that cheered the end of fantasy was 40kfags and trolls that werent interested. I cant think of a single person that was pleased with the fact their favorite setting was dead along with their favorite wargame.Also, though iirc unfounded, there are theories the end times wasnt supposed to always result in the end of the game/setting. People have pointed out for ages how well first gen sigmarines ranked up, so perhaps even the sculptors didnt know at first. Who knows though, the whole thing was a rushed mess.
>>94786663those are the anubis warriors from the Mummy Returns
>>94794405Yes, they are a very RNG model
>>94794460>mfw no crappy tomb kings fanart that has khonshu in it because half of it is traced
Who will drive the heathen Middenheimer Pretenders back into their northern wasteland?
>>94792005My general is Alvis the All-Seeing, a mighty sorcerer lord bearing the mark of chaos undivided. In the modern era, he is an unparalleled master of the lore of fire, but when the gods send him back in time he uses the lore of battle magic. He has performed many deeds, some mighty, some craven, which have earned him several titles such as Gyrocopter's Bane and Cannonball Magnet. He hates dragons and his symbol is a single eye wreathed in flames. He has died many, many times, but he's been getting better at avoiding that recently.
>>94794817I wanna kick this guys teeth in. Load the Cannon!
>>94794830You would almost certainly kill him instantly. During his very first battle he got evaporated by a well-placed cannon shot within 15 seconds of the game starting.
>>94794888Serves him right, smug asshole.
>>94792005Madz the Mushroom Muncher was not aware of the bedlam that would great him as his horde made its way across troll country. The march had started after the big red mushroom on his head told him he would find some really big things to eat if he travelled down to the middle mountains and you dont ignore a talking magic mustoom whens it growing out of you.His cavcade was rapidly growing as more trolls and giants(including Gertrude a paticularly stony Hag) were swept up into the ambience of the marching hoard. Some nomadic orcs, a company of blackorcs and even some mad squigs and their night goblin handlers had fallen into step, eager to participate in any wanton destruction, or snag a free meal in the case of the larger squigs. Those that managed to not get eaten by the hungry trolls were swept to battle with much glee. Even an errant wyvern had started following the herd, and Madz used the poor beasty as a human might a horse. The horde had already swept aside the smattering of marauder and human patrols they'd walsed into, and most recently devoured a errantry crusade that had fled from a battle with ogres just in time to find madz and some of his biggest trolls waiting. Still the impending arrival of such a large assembly of ravenous beasties in the lands of the empire was sure to be an interesting few weeks.
>>94794970I love the mushrooms. They really look like they're growing out of him. Good stuff, anon!
>>94794970Thats a poor overloaded Wyvern.What exactly do you proxy a Troll mounted on a Wyvern as?
>>94794460And they're kinoAs long as there's no Scorpion King
Are vampires affected by holy images of any god or just Sigmar? I'm wondering if the von carsteins would've banned all the other gods worshipped in the empire too
>>94795174It's multiple gods but Sigmar was the one Nagash instilled because of his defeat and the retreat of the vampires. It's a curse so they never forget who they betrayed Nagash for.Other Gods vampires are weak to include the likes of Shallya, Verena, Myrmidia and Morr, but if you want to go into other races, their weakness to the sun might be a curse from Ptra and Usirian also has antivampire protections.For Dwarfs there's Gazul and for Lizards there's Potec and Topec. Elves weirdly have death gods but no protection against necromancy in their lore for Morai-Heg and Ereth Khial. Chaos technically also protects the dead but that's another can of worms entirely
>>94795174They are, the other anon is full of shit and posted conjecture pulled out of his ass. Source: Night's Dark Masters.
>>94795293It's not every god. It's specific ones. Nagash specifically cursing with Sigmar is a plot point though. Hence why it's listed under Nagash's curses and that it's not guaranteed to work even for the strongest priests of any given god.
>>94794220>VT2 devs dislike endtimes (to the point of even just going "yeah it didnt happen" ingame)wtf are you talking about? vermintide is literally set in the end times
>>94795326It's every single one. Again, read the sourcebook.
>>94795229>Elves weirdly have death gods but no protection against necromancy in their lore for Morai-Heg and Ereth Khial.Isha.
>>94786922>>94786933>>94786950The models are very old and do not convey their powers, but Grail Knights in the lore are actually AoS Varanguard tier and make Stormcast holy robot looks like demon prince as far as corruption goes. Not only incorruptible, but without fault. Having a Grail Knight be faulty is Luke Skywalker throwing his father lightsaber like trash tier of character betrayal and writing.There's more chances Archaon will open a charity shop selling churros in Cathay, Morathi opening a KFC in Ulthuan, Khorne himself asking his followers for onions milk instead of blood, and the skaven opening a Wendy's in Altdorf all 4 in the same day, than a grail knight being manipulated or turning bad in any way shape or form.They are the closest thing to lawfull good angels we have in any fantasy settings. Custodes tier.
>>94795421>this is what bretfags actually believe
>>94795037Warboss with troll pantsFor srs business he'll get thinking orc hat and choppiness choppa.For theme and memes wizard hat to make him stupid and a great weapon or biting blade and a wizard hat for theme
>>94795484There has never been a fallen Grail Knight, only seething failed Questing Knights who chud out after a tantrum
How would you make slimes in fantasy work
Reminder Grail Knights in the lore are stronger than rat ogres and capable of almost soloing armies
>>94795706If you want them to split up into smaller slimes, start with a single monster and split into a skirmishing unit. Pinch rules from goblin netters or something if you want to represent people getting stuck in them
>>94793922Somewhere between 6-10 euros I think, dont remember exactly
>>94786787>Whene'er ye so finde le Grail Knight, infiltrat ses pilgrims petite by wa'ever means and le terminate le Grail Knight's commande.>Terminate... le Grail Knight?
>>94796060I hear this in the generic Bretonnian Lords voice and I'm rolling on the floor.
>>94796060>terminate le Grail Knight
>>94792315The Von Carstein was a slave ring. Vlad just found a loophole so he couldn't be controlled anymore. Yea Nagash was destroyed by then, but Arkhan was a still around.
>>94796364was still around*
>>94796364I always forget about that. Nagash lore is so kino for how much of a Skeletor jobber he is
>>94795696>>94795707>>94795421>>94786933>Enters thread.>Says the words "End Times" and "Lileath">Refuses to explain>Leaves
>>94796367It's really funny how Nagash finds new and innovative ways to job despite being a lich who can sort of fight in melee, lacks the traditional weakness of a phylactery, and eventually eats several gods.
>>94796472FUCK YOU
>>94795421bretniggers, i...
I want more nagash
>>94795328Its licensed for the Endtimes but its pretty clear that fatshark shits all over the doom and gloom Geedubs went balls deep into. 5 goobers save a major imperial city from skaven takeover, in an End Timed loreblurb 5000 Reikland soldiers would job to Ikit Klaw and his 5 stormvermin.
>>94796364Why does Nagash need a ring to control a Vampire when he can just decide they can't survive sunlight and shit. He could just decide Vamps get explosive diarrhea if they dont obey him.
>>94796540He can't. Lorelet anon, you already shat the bed earlier this thread, stop embarrassing yourself.
>>94796540I didn't write it.
good ol grombrindal is done
>>94796552GW, hire this man
>>94796540because GW has to write nagash as incompetent because he would destroy the setting otherwise
Why is there no champion of Order Undivided.Someone chosen by all the Gods, a Grail Knight with Sigmars blessing and also the avatar of Kurnous and Slayer.
>>94796553Wanting someone to work for GW is akin to asking them to have their talent and soul drained.
>>94796556Undivided is worship of raw chaos itself or worship of all 4 gods in equal measure. There isn't a God of Undivided to uplift someone and make them their champion. Someone who earns championship of all 4 (aka an Everchosen) is the closest you're going to get.
Imagine how soul crushing of a job being a full time painter for Geedubs has to be.Day in day out you have to produce top tier paintjobs not on models you want to paint, not in the scheme you want to, not even in the amount of an actual usable army. But whatever corporate suits decide you have to.
>>94794679probably due to the TK having two moon goddesses, who don't really have any of the same spheres of influence as Khonshu in the Marvel comics does.
>>94796472I can't think of a single aspect getting butchered worse than Elven Gods during Endskub.
>>94796492Hawkwood is a nice manga (and the historical figure is also interesting)
>>94796060>With le extreme préjugés
>>94796562Shut up and get back in the cuck cage Aaron, maybe then I'll let you goon to your sheboon porn for 5 minutes.
>>94796681What the fuck are you on about Anon?
>>94796688I assume he's talking about Aaron-Dembski Bowden, which like Gav Thrope have a... controversial vision of the lore he's trying to enforce.
>>94796724has ADB ever made a comment about Warhammer Fantasy? he seems to be a 40k/HH writer exclusively.
>>94796556because the "order" gods, aside from the long forgotten law gods which are an embarrassment even to the guy who first wrote about them, are not really a cohesive pantheon like the chaos gods, you have the pantheon of classical gods, the pantheon of old gods, the pantheon of kislev gods, the pantheon of khemri, the elven pantheon and the pantheon of the old ones, they are all pretty much separate and isolated culturally, so for a champion of "order" to collect the blessings of all these disparate gods is pretty wild and goofy, at best you could get the blessings of one of those pantheons, but the majority of them are pretty much largely inactive or straight up deadclosest you get are lizardmen with the mark of (all) the old ones, which makes them an albino with destiny on their sidethe phoenix king chosen of asuryan, which could be argued to embody the power of all elven gods by virtue of asuryan being the chief of the elven pantheonand then you've got to go to age of sigmar before you find a new pantheon of active gods purposefully propping up champions, which they do in groups as soul bindings for convenient rpg purposes only
>>94796724He sounds like he needs meds.
>>94796742Eh, no idea, I gave up on BL a decade ago. But what apply to chaos in 40k is usually also assumed to apply in fantasy. Like that gay "Khaine is literally Khorne" Gav insist on.Which is irrevelant because lore is only canon if you allow it to be.
>>94796772>Khaine is literally KhorneThat piece of lore precedes Gav's employment by GW, retard.
>>94796565Are you aware that these people voluntarily chose this job for themselves and are free to leave whenever they want?
>>94796785>these people voluntarily chose this job for themselves >and are free to leave whenever they want>he doesn't know
>>94796565spending each day edge highlighting the latest reposed cad space marine isn't so bad
>Pink Fire (Daemons Of Tzeentch)>Effect: The target enemy unit suffers D3+3 Strength 3hits, each with an AP of - and with the Flaming Attacksspecial rule.the fuck is AP of -
>>94796633the "rune magic was tied to valaya all along and now that she's gone it don't work anymore" bit was spicy too
>>94796855that doesn't even make much sense when their an entirely separate ancestor god of Rune Magic in Thungni but I guess GW has completely forgotten about all the Ancestor gods not called Grimnir, Grungni and Valaya
>>94793017The Auric Bastion is absolute horseshit, but if I'm being way more charitable than it deserves, there was a renaissance play called 'Friar Bacon and Friar Bungay' in which a necromancer (Friar Bacon) attempts to use a brass head to create a magical brass wall around Britain to protect it from invasion.I'd like to think that was related, but probably not.
was end times the only time when WHF lore was interesting?
>>94796540He can't do that, it's why he needs to drag dangle carrots in front of them whenever he has henchmen.
>>94796894Shut your whore mouth
>>94796904You took the bait, guaranteeing that he'll be back to post as shit, or shittier, bait in the future.
>>94796904why?
>>94792005this gay idiot
>>94792778yes, ive seen examples on instagram, you’ll just have to sculpt a saddle and probably snip off a back spineim working on mine but the riders still in the mail
>>94796779It has long been dropped, he's the only one clinging to this outdated retardation.
>>94796988Looks good anon. Care to share any of the examples you've seen on Instagram? It's such a good model.
>>94796998Where/when was it dropped? I'm not saying it wasn't, but I've personally never seen anything that officially confirms it was retconned. If that exists though I'd like to see it.
>>94796999I like this one with an old wight rider. assembling the dragon is kinda fucky and i found liquid greenstuff helped fill gaps
>>94797028Ooof, can't say I like it. The rider looks comically big. I know the dragon itself is meant to be smaller than modern sculpts but still, it doesn't look that much bigger than a horse when you put a rider on it.
>*smacks lips*
>>94792005Here we go with El Don Bigote: A minor estalian noble who due to reading too many novels about bretonnian chivalric quests, the harsh estalian sun and/or drinking too much shoddy (by tilean standards) estalian wine decided to embark on a knightly quest of his own.After making a nuisance of himself in the countryside, he was told by the miller’s guild (who were one of the many he had bothered) that the lands of Tilea were full of adventure and damsels in need of rescue by a knight such as he. They provided him with an escort of pikemen (the so called “Agirre’s Devil’s) and pointed him where to go.Once there, he was swiftly employed by one or another merchant and noble house, mainly to keep him from causing too much trouble with his “chivalric quest”. After a while of working for different employers, he finally set himself in the semi-permanent employ of Pavona, or more accurately; the employ of Lucrezzia Belladonna, Pavona’s ruler.El Don Bigote believes that he’s found a damsel worthy of his heroic feats, a fact that the lady of the city has decided to use in her benefit. So, he and his company march to further Lucrezzia’s goals, though being a mercenary army, they do tend to embark on other lucrative enterprises from time to time.I do plan to paint up two versions of him further down the line; one on horseback and one on a pegasus.Also got to add judging by my track record on tabletop, may have to include something about his bad luck when it comes to lelves.I'm also curious how that one anon handled him in the RPG game he had set in Averland/Wisseland involving a succesion crisis
>>94792005>>94797339And because no DoW army can be fielded without its trusty paymaster, here we have Uccello "The Greedy" both on foot and on horsebackOne of the men who keep El Don Bigotes quirkier tendencies in check, as well as serving as the company’s paymaster. Two things can be said about him; that he’s quite tight fisted when it comes to the money and that he’s as vain as a peacock.Uccello claims that the feathers on his helmet belong to a gryphon, though they come from a species of giant, flightless bird that inhabits a small island to the east of the Southlands. No one is sures why they lack predators, some claiming that it’s due to the horrid taste of their flesh, while others insist it's due to some innate magical property. Whatever it may be, the feathers do seem to offer some sort of protection to the paymaster (which in game I tends to be a Talisman of Protection)
New FAQ is up on Warcom.
>>94797004At the same time they stopped slapping khorne's rune on witch elves, so when they transitioned from oldhammer to the setting's modern iteration.
>>94797396>having to rebase your minis againLmao.
>>94792005Meargh Morragh of the Forest Drakes taking a boat trip to see this new Norscan woman causing chaos in her Tumble Downs. While she approves of chaos, and approves of a human woman in chains, she is somewhat concerned at the level of imperial attention that this will draw to the area. (Sail and boglar polers are still waiting on the rest of my 2.5k list being painted up first.)
>>94797482Sick. What's the rest of your army look like?
>>94797444what is this retardation of changing base sizes mid edition, it's bad enough between editions already
>>94797542>let alone game systems>ra rooo...
>>94797542I think its due to GW near constant output of things, and thus changes come at quite a rapid pace
>>94797444i think that was done to line up with the base they put in the box or they just changed their Webstore to say Skin Wolves will ship with 50x50 bases
>>94797542I think it might've unironically been a typo first time around. I don't even think 40mm squares are in the game anymore. It's multiples of 25mm's now.
>>94797539Lots of WIP that hasn't P'd in months due to distractions and overload. 6-7 more actual fimir to finish painting up, but the massive time sink is making a few dozen elf-forsaken out of the Wishing Woods / Vale of Despair. Hoping to take a good chunk out of them over the next month, though.
>>94796964You wouldnt be the anon with the ogre, lizardmen and greenskin army would you?
>>94797623Pic related, durr
THEY FUCKING KILLED SISTERS OF THE THORN KILL ME NOW
>>94797599>I don't even think 40mm squares are in the game anymoreTrolls... ogres...
>>94797647were Skin Wolves shipped with 40x40 bases in TOW?
>>94796653>Monsieur Willard, are my vows unsound?
>>94797698>We teach the squires to drop plague arrows, but we don't let them write "Merde" on their bascinets because it is obsene
>>94797627Utterly lovely lads Anon.
>>94796552Beautiful
>>94796756>the Mark of the Old Ones is just being whiteLel
>>94797784albino, not whitelizardmen become white as they age and their scales ossify, but only blessed ones spawn albino
>>94796552Dawi/10Hope you're taking care of yourself, anon!
>>94796552Show Army paintanon
>>94797784Aside from the overbearing spikes and shit, Delf armor is surprisingly "period accurate" with the Empire. Cuirass, fluted and fully articulated limb armor.
>>94797900the artist has probably changed the designs a bit just has their given the Lizardman more Mesoamerican period items than what official GW designs have
>>94797625i dont think so, sorry…
>>94797959>cuirass, puffy shirtYour pic makes a decent case for my argument.
>>94797900Mossa sure knows how to make historical looking armour drawings
>>94797986Got you mistaken with the anon who painted Mordukk the Pale Orc, since goblin green base and style reminded me of him.Still, thats a neat gobbo!
>>94797990Sure does.
>>94797990if only we did more historical or fantasy art rather than 40k I guess that is where the money is right now and is where the grand majority of attention comes from
>>94797900Consider the following:
>>94798079Gallagher too has a good working knowledge of armour
>>94798079There is naturally variety, but if you compare the highest tier individuals, the "period" of their armor is very similar.
When you think about it, their noble ladies dress similarily too.
>>94797849a little more than a month sober now, it helps.>>94797858the painted stuff or everything ?
>>94798136I was agreeing with you. The 6e designs are basically just gothic plate. It's not even that much more spikey, really.
>>94798162Show whatever you wish. But would like to see an army of yours on parade.
>>94798162Glad to hear. Stay well, anon
>>94798150she is the only woman in the Empire who dresses like she is a Dark elf that isn't a Slaanesh or Khainite cultist
>>94798201Did she ever marry in canon?
>>94798212I don't think so, it's not like GW cared all that much for the Elector counts extended families, they killed all of Boris Todbringers off-page and I don't think any of Karl Frnaz's kids even get mentioned in the 6th-8th editions
>>94798212>>94798242She was childhood friends with Karl Franz so I choose to believe she never got over him and chose to live her life as a petty and vindictive bitch to get back at him
>>94798212Kind of. In the original Enemy Within:She marries Boris Todbringer's illegitimate son, Heinrich who becomes Emperor in his own right. This didn't happen in the director's cut but there are references in a few 1e books (like Death's Dark Shadow and The WFRP Companion, I think) to Emperor Heinrich. So it was canon at some point.
>>94798242Even a vapid slut like Emmy should realize that a personal union between Nuln, the Wissenland, Solland and the Reikland and Altdorf would be unacceptable for the remaining Elector Counts. The Empire would become a One-Man-Show.
>>94798271She gives me big wine aunt energy, I don't want to think she would behave that way for an old friend, they probably got to know each other's redflags early on, I know I did with my family's friends' kids in our close childhood.
>>94798271She tries to seduce his son Luitpold in Beasts in Velvet who I think is just a kid at the time.But Luitpold is apparently more into Big Women.>pierce-brosnan.jpg
>>94798311even before the enemy within(4e at least) it's shown Karl was already thinking of splitting off the inheritance of Altdorf and Reikland to his Bastard son and Nephew respectively, what reason i don;t know.
>>94798366trying to achieve peak HRE bordergore.
There's no chance that GW would do a MTO run on the 5th ed chaos knight kit, right? The one that had metal parts for the arms, legs and horse heads and had you use the plastic chaos warriors bodies and helmets and regular plastic horses? I really want to have those models in my army, as they would make for fantastic chosen knights, but they're somewhat expensive on the second hand market, which is making me hesitate. Seeing as this particular kit was mixed plastic and metal, it's highly unlikely that a MTO run would be done, right?
LORE FAMILIAR CANT TAKE FACTION SPELLS FOR FUCKS SAKE
>>94798150What growing up on Nuln does to a mf
>>94798341>Karl Franz turned down this rich as fuck DFC southern Cal girlWhat is he, gay?
>>94798498seems like a fun place, it's not like it turned her into a chaos cultist or anything
>>94798511>if you're rich you become a slut>if you're not you die from lung cancerNuln is ACTUALLY LA
>>94798492so just dont buy it lolor take 2 wizards
>>94798510no, he just preferred his cousin
>>94798492Hey, I was right about that so many months ago. Sweet! I'm surprised GW had to FAQ that, the rule seemed pretty obvious to me.
>>94798534>take two wizardsI play ogres
>>94798492That was always really the case though, and anyone trying to argue otherwise was bullshitting but the unclear wording meant some could get away with it. Just take a Spell Familiar, if you're a level 4 (obviously you are when playing TOW) then you're gonna get 5 spells, which is a very high possibility you'll get the spell you want.
>>94798547lul
Not really sure what the point of the stupidity FAQ was. Was there anything funky going on with it?
>>94798524no beaches or massive Fires in Nulns history
>>94798622>or massive Fires in NulnsI somehow doubt that.
>>94798586So failing a stupidity roll you don’t actually have to move? Retarded
How would you feel about black orcs with copper or bronze armor instead of black/iron coloroed ?
>>94798635compared to Altdorf at least admittedly this might simply be due to the lack of WFRP books set in Nuln that go into detail about the cities history and culture rather than the writers thinking Nuln shouldn't have massive fires
hello, im looking for a very specific quote from WHFRPG about how the halfling gods aren't particularly strong in comparison to a god ike ulric
>>94798622>no (...) massive Fires in Nulns historyI'm sure Grom and Thanquol fixed that
>>94798663Do you know the book or edition this quote was in?
>>94798652largely indifferentthey're not called black orcs for the color of the armor
>>94798684pretty sure it was in 4e, although it could be 2e. I am pretty sure it was in a separate text box
>>94798652Depends entirely on the quakity of the paintjob.
>>94798547Historically accurate given Hapsburgs>>94798652If you make it work, could be interesting
>>94798801Karl isn Hapsburg though he' a Holswig-Schliesteine so he more based on a northern Duchy of Holstein at least in name
>>94798822Habsburgs werent the only ones marrying their cousins in those days.
As a beastman player, would a giant or Gorgan be more worth it? Gorgan feels like it would be more in line with fluff, but the chaos giant kit looks so fun.
>>94798836I see no reason why you couldn't run a ghorgon as a giant, or vice versa, but if you think the chaos giant looks like a fun project you should get the giant. You'll also be able to use said giant across several editions, whereas the ghorgon only has rules in 8th and TOW, to my knowledge.
>>94798822I most confess my ignorance on this topic, but marrige between cousins seems to be a common theme in nobility at one point or another
>>94798832Gotta keep that Runefang in the family
>>94798853it was, Cousin marriages still happen today for a similar reason in some parts of the world which is to keep the Land and titles within the family rather than it being continuously split off into smaller and smaller holdings
>>94798877By the mid 1600s it was also almost impossible for european nobles not to marry a cousin since they were all quite related already to some degree.
>>94798881most nobles weren't marrying first or second cousins like the Hapsburgs though
>>94798899At that time the Habsburgs were literally at war with most other nobles in Europe.
>>94798912well if they stopped marrying their first cousins they might not have been at war with the rest of europe
>slutty Nuln fashionDrakenhof is worse.
>>94798822KF is pretty much a mix of Maximilian I and Charles (Karl) V, both Habsburgs.Consider that according to the Hammer of Judgement's text, KF's (maternal) grandfather was 'Frederick the Bold', i.e. a mix of Frederick III and his political rival, Charles the Bold.Although straight comparisons are foolish. I always got a bit of Habsburg from some depictions of Marius Leitdorf, for example.
>>94798946that's only a slight exaggeration of canon art of a Vampire
>>94798963I wasnt kidding.
>>94798986Vampires always love their deep cleavage
>>94799002Do stakes through the heart even work with warhammer vampires? Cause if so going with a big cleavage into battle seems counter productive.Then again, Lahmian vampires don't go charging directly into battle like other bloodlines, and they use magic/allure to deflect blows
>>94799026Its also counter productive, since Vampires dont really regenerate from physical injuries, so if she gets a tit sliced off by a Greatsword, it'll stay gone.
>>94799026Vampire Hunter have Stakes in their Art and models so I would guess yes Vampires are weak to stakes in WF
>>94799002Pic unrelated. She's not even a vampire. She's a normal Reiklander, albeit in mourning.
do I need trays for forsaken
>>94797542It was a typo in the book. The minis shipped with 50mm bases.
>>94799088do reiklanders normally do morning in half plate?
>>94799002>>94799107>>94799088Black Rose does imply a Garden of Morr and a traditional Morr token, something you would not expect a Vampire to go around with.
>>94798946>vampire>small boobsthat's downright wrong
>>94799049Van Hal's model in 6th ed also has stakes and garlic, so maybe?
>>94799127>>94799049I think its more so that Warhammer Vampires die when you stab something into their heart, and a Stake will do fine, but its mostly fuddlore.On the upside, a wooden stake is expendable and you don't have to worry about hammering one into a questionable corpse that may or may not be a Vampire, and then leaving it in for re-burial.
>>94799148I wonder if a life wizard could make a tree grow out of the wooden stake; you have a vampire hunter/someone stake them through the heart, then the jade wizard make it into a tree rooted in a spot.Life beating death (or undeath in this case) and all
>>94799127It's more entertaining to consider garlic completely irrelevant to kill or harm a warhammer vampire but still used by some hunters due to superstition
>>94799173>and then one day, decades down the line, the tree finally dies down and its first fruits after death are the spawn of the vampire's essence, immortal still and endlessly attempting to reform
Boar boysIs there any advantage to an extra rank or is a unit of 5 good enough?Im thinking two units of 5 over one unit of 10.Thoughts?
I'm assuming someone here has does terrain at some pointAnyone have experience with stone textured spray paint that can recommend one for grey stone?I went to my Home Depot and they didn't have grey, just sand and brick colors
>>94799259>>94799259>>94799259NEW CAPTAINNEW THREADNEW SHIP
>>94799262Cav should never have a 2nd rank
>>94799232It may not war off vampires, but its worse; it attracts br*tonnians! Or makes you pre seasoned for ogres>>94799249Guess we need a line of vampire hunters/priests blessing the tree every so often
>>94792728>>94792737I'm pretty sure one of the early official WFRP stories for the fimir had that story so it's canon as well as in Warpstone.
>>94798079Is there any equivalent in history for the classic Helf high helms out of interest? They so iconic to the faction, but was it just something GW threw together?
>>94798436Honestly, email them and suggest it. If enough people did they'd probably do it.
>>94798586I'd read people arguing about it. Some claimed that stupid creatures had to move full distance and that they would end up in combat. The FAQ just dispels these ideas; if players just read the rules instead of reading what they want we wouldn't need FAQs like this.
>>94798642No, you must move but it can be as little as you want. It could be 1mm.
>>94794220Vermintide literally has End Times in its name and refers to various ET-specific events.
>>94799127All this tells us is that their superstition around vampires is the same, might be a Castlevania situation where those don't do shit
>>94793686It's his version of chakats.With everything that entails.
>>94797990Osprey should hire this (wo)man.
