Previous: >>94777060 >OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://mtglands.com>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQ:Innistrad Remastered: What's Your Plan?
>>94797488>TQto not consume product
>>94797488Innistrad doesn't interest me at all. Shitty reprints that aren't playable anywhere who the fuck asked for this? Aetherdrift looks dogshit too looks like I'm saving my credit this year
I love her bros.>>94797488>TQInnistrad never appealed to me much in the first place, I don't think I'll get anything from it other than maybe one or two singles.
gl hf
What is her card going to do?
>>94797488>Innistrad Remastered: What's Your Plan?Just like with Ravnica, I have plenty already, thanks.
I think this is the next deck I'm going to work on. Going through my boxes and pulling out legends is a simple enough starting point until a more concrete game plan becomes apparent.>>94797488>TQI collect movie poster style cards, so I'm mostly just hoping other people end up hating those so they get cheaper.
>>94797488>>TQ:>Innistrad Remastered: What's Your Plan?I'll be at Magfest for release so if vendors have it and I haven't spent all my cardboard budget on MB2 and singles I'll probably pick some up for funsies with the boys >>94797557>8UU>Legendary Nightmare Kraken Horror>10/10>Indestructible, Islandwalk>When Sin enters or attacks destroy target artifact. Then manifest, then manifest again.
>>94797488TQTo buy a shit load of that and then no Aetherdrift or Final Fantasy until Wizards gets the message
>tqSee if the proxy vendors update their inventory with cards I want but haven't been printed for awhile, otherwise nothing.
>>94797488>TQProbably just order singles, not enough cards I’d want to go gambling for.
>>94797608Unless you are such a whale your monetary contributions are worth 20% of more of their profits each sale cycle for a set, they don't care about your protest.
>>94797608What is the message supposed to be here?
>>94797752>Cater to me or I won't buy product.
>>94797712>>94797758Why are you so mad over someone not buying cards?
>>94797854Pointing out the meaninglessness of you proudly declaring a boyott =/= being mad.
TQ: buy Sigarda on the cheap, maybe Gisela if it drops a lot, and possibly Cultivator. Innistrad is when I first started playing, so it has a special spot in my heart, but I already own 80% + thats in the set. Im think the reprints wont change the market price by a lot, but here's to hoping Im wrong
>>94797865>youNot being able to tell people apart is autistic.
>>94797879Sure thing bud.
Can anyone with a Yenna deck post it? Im in the middle of building mine and want to compare whats what
>>94797885You're responding to other anons with capitalized greentext to continue crying over that guy not buying cards even though the first thing he said is buy a shit load. Have sex.
>>94797892*please
>>94797903>Point out someone (you)'s pointless decree>Claim totally NTA haha>Sperg out about it.>Claim someone else is crying>???>ProfitYou don't matter.
Ban Cyclonic Rift
>>94797903>putting this much emphasis on a capital letter and then accusing others of having autismKinda seems like someone's feelings got hurt cause people didn't call his post based and epicpilled
>>94797964I second this. Ruins the game the second it resolves and sucks all the life out of it
Everyone in this thread is autistic. Stop flinging shit and start talking about cards.>Secondary Thread Questions:What's your favorite card type? Do you tend to run more of that card type in your decks than average?Do you prefer permanents or non-permanents? Does that preference skew the ratio of them in your decks?
>secondary tqIf you want attention bake the thread i will not answer your false TQs
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>94797988I like it when the main ones, creature, artifact and enchantment are all on the table at once, which in turn is giving me tons of combo synergy. Most hated? Plansewalkers by far
>>94797964>exile everything for 6: fine>bounce everything for 7: BAN THIS SICK FILTH
>>94797995Dont be a little bitch, it happens all the time. Just consider it a general question they asked if it bothers you autismo
>>94798025No one thinks farewell is fine anon.
To the guy that was asking about dragonshields and asking if they were exact or not, I only think I've ever bought a single pack of dragonshields that actually had the exact amount. The last 4 packs of dragonshields I've bought have had anywhere from 102-105 sleeves.
>>94797964returned to hand is easier to recover from than removed if your cards are low cost and you don't rely on cheating things in, the problem is being blue, the rift is going to be followed up by some izzet/simic degeneracy
>>94798025Rift is asymmetrical.While cards like Farewell, or Austere command are designed to have a fair but of asymmetry 99/100 the caster is still having something on their side hit too.Farewell is more fair than rift due to the fact.More fair isn't a huge metric, and exile sweepers were a mistake in the first place.
>>94798044They always throw in a few extras, yeah.
>>94797964>>94798089Nope. You are not qualified to have your opinion on bans considered based on your stated reasoning. We appreciate the effort and recommend you try again on a future date with a more coherent argument.
>>94797918>>94797979>least bitchmade blue players
He's baiting hard today.
>>94798109What do these posts have to do with blue
>>94798117Nothing, I can just tell they play blue.
>>94797488>TQTo skip it and be mildly excited for Wacky Races: Magic.I want Tezzeret to grow a stupid mustache
>>94798124But I'm one of those posts and I dont have a single blue deck. You're internet detective skills are really bad
>>94798124I have three decks, whar colours are they?
>>94797988All of my deck have an emphasize the on artifacts.I don't know why. I just love artifacts.
>>94798124My only deck that has blue in it is this, and I do not have a single counter spell, study, or rift in it.Try harder.
>>94798089>>94798025Farewell is shit because it doesn't close the game, it resets it.Rift is almost always played for a win
>>94797964>vomit everything on the board as soon as you can>run no protectionWTF HOW COME YOU SPEND YOUR ENTIRE TURN REMOVING IT?
>>94798188>I play rift >I cast deflecting swat for free>Um. Okay?Most embarrassing thing I witnessed at the lcs.Some people run "protection." It's just wrong.
>>94798188How do you protect against something that doesn't target? Outside of the like what 3 white spells and blue counterspells?
>>94798044I think I'm the guy you are talking about. I know Dragon Shield includes about tree or so extra sleeves in a package. I was asking if the Katana sleeves did the same.
>>94798223There is no way to protect against it other than counter it out phase out
I generally just walk away from the table if a rift resolves. It's not an impressive play but they always feel so good after it gets them the win
Can someone explain to me why Alela is so highly ranked? Is it her goad mechanic that makes her good in EDH? Or the fact that blue usually casts spells off-turn anyway and you can extract extra value from that?
>>94798276You just stand up and walk off, leaving your cards on the table? That's weird
>>94798223Outside of the suggestions you mention, you don't. But you can still find some ways to balance it out a bit. Used this recently to copy it and force the blue player to rebuild like everyone else.
>>94798280>Your big threat(s) can't attack me, and must attack and be threatened by someone with either bigger blockers or deathtouch>Why is this so powerful?If you haven't found out yet that goad is one of the strongest mechanics in all of commanders, I don't know what to tell you.Did you hear Alaska became a state?
>>94798312sorry i'm new to the game, i just bought a deck with her as commander because i like faeries and it seemed like Tegwyll would've been a better pick as commander at first glance
If you goad a dork, so they have to attack, or can they effectively just tap for mana and ignore the mechanic?
>>94798312>good>one of the strongest mechanics in commanderVery funny
>>94798328Tegwyll is shit because you want your stuff to be dying. Alela wants you to progress and disrupt your opponents and be rewarded for it>>94798355They can just tap one of the many many reasons goad is not good. You're likely either goading things that want to attack anyways or things that can just avoid it
>>94797488>Innistrad Remastered: What's Your Plan?I will not buy the product.
>>94798223Play your cards after it resolves, you still have your lands. Or dont let your opponent get 7 fucking mana.
>>94798223>HEY EVERYONE THE BLUE PLAYER PASSED WITH 7 MANA OPEN LETS ALL FUCK HIM UPIt's literally that easy anon. If 3 people can't take him out or hurt him enough that the rift is just an equalizer than they deserve to lose
>>94798280Sweaty neckbeards get boners looking at the card
Haha Timmy got his board bounced with a rift so he left the table
>>94798280By "ranked", do you mean on edhrec?
>>94798284No ill just go join or make a different pod>>94798472>starts new game>has fun>old pod still grumbling about rift I chose peace
>>94798025>asymmetrical>instant speedFarewell is a fair card. Rift is not
>>94798284Personally I scoop my cards, turn 360° and walk away
>>94798521You are silly and dumb. Exile is a much more powerful effect than bounce.
Okay but what's the saltiest thing that can happen in a pod?>A: Cyclonic Rift>B: MLD>C:Storm player kills everyone>D:Stax player shuts down everything
>>94798556anything that forces the game into a state where one player has clearly won but won't actually win for another 5 turns
>>94798393>attack the person who has a way outthe fuck? he would just cast cyclonic rift the second he feels like he's under pressure and bounce all three players boards.
>>94798556None of those? Do you even understand salt? Here are 4 better options:>a) Someone misplaying on purpose to kingmake someone else.>b) Resolving scrambleverse or theives auction more than once.>c) Some bumpkin playing a nondeterministic combo deck they've never practiced or goldfished (goddamn I hate you so much nadu)>d) a stranger who is a heavy smoker shuffling your deck and when you get it back, half your cards are upside down and dank.
>>94798561That's when you scoop anon. Part of being a good magic player is playing to your outs, and if you have none, you can pack it in out of mutual respect.
What's an actual fun Doragon commander? Doesn't have to be tribal and Niv mizzet is not fun imo
>>94798393>Attack the blue players when they have 7 mana upLiterally what he wants you to do. Good job.
>>94798609works most of the time, but occasionally you get groups where the 2 other players don't realize the game is over and get upset at you for scooping
>>94798599>>a) Someone misplaying on purpose to kingmake someone else.Absolute saltiest I ever got was a white player giving the dimir player an out by preventing combat damage against him after I swung out on him when he had his combo assembled. I was so absolutely flabbergasted I told him it doesn't resolve until he can explain why he just did something so retarded and he just went "well you'll kill me next turn" and then the dimir player used his turn to go infinite and kill us both. The white player insisted this was somehow the right play even tho he had a Boros charm and plenty of creatures to stop me from going sideways at him
>>94798647>>94798563God you guys are bad at magic. If he's rifting in response to you swinging or whatever, he's not doing it in a way that makes you discard down to handsize, and rift is nothing more than a tempo play that leaves them tapped out while other players rebuild their boards.
I really wish my Orc tribal "precon" was here. I accidentally shipped the cards to my parents house and now its chaos as they are receiving like 50 things in the mail.I am considering going to the LGS today for the first time. Its a bit of a drive but not too bad. There might be closer places. Finding a place that has a good commander group is daunting.Im not sure what decks I should bring. Red Death is probably too overtuned to just show up and pubstomp people with. Burakos probably as well is very fine tuned but maybe more "fair" if I take out Opposition Agent. I dont want to run the 4th Doctor deck but it probably is my fairest deck aside from the dragon precon I have
How cringe is it that I don't play to win, but instead just play to become an overwhelming threat that needs to be answered by the table. I don't usually win, but I love making games into a 3 I 2v1 situation and going down swinging.
>>94798678Sure thing bud.
>>94798686I always play to win but I’m satisfied with a game if my deck gets to perform well.It doesn’t seem weird to me at all.
>>94798368>They can just tap one of the many many reasons goad is not good. You're likely either goading things that want to attack anyways or things that can just avoid itYeah but the point is they're not attacking you
Goad is good in EDH. Like with most things, it has diminishing returns. But you can either force an opponent to attack with a dork if they have no way to tap it or force their voltron to not hit you, etc. Having some goad support is not bad.
>>94798691I get it, you dont really play, but a rift with poor timing is much worse than a rift in the endstep before his turn, or to specifically fuck over one guy.
>>94798686I play to make sure everyone else at the table has a worse time
>>94798726>Claim you can just beat down a guy holding for rift.>He rifts putting you and everyone else behind>Wow, he did the obvious thing, he's so bad and so are you for letting it happen.Sure thing bud.
>>94798563You realize forcing him to rift before the last end step is still a better position for the table to be in right? And there is also targeted removal etc.
>>94798723>if they have no way to tap it >I tap this for mana>No way to tap it>A dork ???
>>94798738You didnt read what I said you numpty. This is why no one should listen to the opinions of bads.
I cyclonic rift with Iron Maiden in play so opponents have to take a ton of damagehehehe
>>94798746I will call this a dork and you cannot stop me
>>94798758Behaving like this is cute when youre still 5 and don't understand the world yet but you're an adult this is just embarrassing
>>94798758>"I cast my dork!">Anon that's a soul sister not a dork.>"Yes it is!">Does it tap for mana?>"No.">Then it's not a dork.>"Yes it is and you cant stop me!">[judgemental side eye intensifies]
>>94798749Sure thing champ.You think a symmetrical reset sorcery is more bullshit than an asymmetrical finisher or panic button you'll only get 3-4 things back from.Sure thing champ. You're the good player.
>>94798738>player A can rift on the end step of B C or Ds turn>doing it on Ds turn is clearly the best tempo play as no one gets to respond>forcing him to do it on B or Cs turn is somehow not better despite it giving people a chance to rebuild against whatever the blue player has plannedYoure bad at magic
>>94798770>Be in a losing position regardless of when he does it.>Lose on his turn anyway.>Mattering in the slightest.
>>94798778It does but you're not good enough at magic to understand and that is a-okay we all start our journey somewhere
>>94797488>Innistrad Remastered: What's Your Plan?Maybe but two collector boosters and other than that, pick up a few singles like the eldrazi angels
>>94798758Are you one of those Tumblr users that makes straight characters gay despite the fact they are married with kids?
>>94798786>It matters because I'll have one blocker on the board and be tapped out!>Lose anyway.>I'm not bad thoughJollyballoonmaninthrcommandzone
>>94798599What does any of this unga bunga language even mean??? Do you even play Magic the Gathering?
>>94798769Do you want to discuss this, where I use evidence to demonstrate where you're wrong in a moderately long and detailed post about game theory from a powerful and long term player with experience using both cards, or do you want to keep pretending to be retarded while the whole thread posts smug anime girls mocking you?
>>94798809>Buzzwords and you're bad! Is detailed explanations.>>94798769You're just a rift apologist.Rift puts you in a losing position not matter when it's played because it's asymmetrical. Farewell is not.This is objective and if you think otherwise, your ability to say what is good or people's skill level will be discarded immediately.
>>94798539You don't seem to understand basic game mechanics or strategy.
>>94798823You seem to have chosen the smug anime girl route. Begone swine, you are not qualified for this discussion, and your opinions are not relevant, warranted, or insightful.
>>94798840No bro. He's a 10 time worlds champion. You are bad at magic.
And discarded. Sorry apologist. You lost. The sky is green, or so you believe against all objective truth.
>>94798208better protection
>>94798840>oh no, I need to recast my cards, thankfully I can just play all my mana rocks and recover in a turn or two with the bonus of getting my etb triggersvs>well, all my key cards are in forever jail, time to pray
Just hit them with the dab.
>>94798860>Tfw you have this in your deck>Games where no one is playing blue
>>94798865>The simic or izzet player has a massive board and just rifted you.>Little does he know that I'm now in a winning position because I played 3 rocks and discarded 5 cards I couldn't play again.
>>94798868Gonna start running this so I can shout GOTCHA whenever I cast it
>>94798888You didnt discard anything. One guy might, but not if you pointed out the blue player had 7 open mana and couldnt rift on the endstep, tardo.
>>94798879
>equipment>Imprint-exile a creature card >Equipped creature has the abilities of the imprinted creaturePlease tell me something like this exists
>>94798888so you let the Simic player build up a massive board AND let him have 7 mana? Like sure, you lose, but you'd have been just as dead if he played like Craterhoof
>>94798879It can still trigger Storm or Prowess, unlike REB, also you can run color-changing cards like pic related.
>>94798929There's various cards that can steal abilities from other permanents, but only activated abilities and only for themselves.
>>94798865What kind of sorry ass board state do you have where you aren't discarding after being rifted
>>94798959Is this opposite day? A good deck is primarily cheap payoffs and efficient enablers. You have a full turn to replay your rocks and whatever else before you need to discard unless you are very unlucky and get hit in your endstep.
>>94798976>6 lands >few rocks>4-6 permanents as well>ideally a full grip these are good decks as you claim>7+3+5= 15 (+1 for draw step so 16)>6 mana on 3 rocks>1 low cost permanent >discard 5 cardsI would call this a pretty conservative estimate as well desu
Haven't updated my deck roster in years. Who should I replace/update?And remember, black only.
>>94799012All of them realistically
>>94798976>>94798901>>94798940What a retard KEK
>>94799012Build Obzedat
>>94798943honestly, the more I think about it, the more I want to build Jaya Ballard
>>94799008>6 mana on 3 rocksYou didnt include the mana generated from the rocks, and those are very expensive rocks. Your math is cherry picked.
>>94799041There are 2 options for it outside of blue
Post your commanders with cool art and let's fight over what's cool or not
>>94799048>2 mana rock is expensive nowNo its the standard rate. Unless you're in some mox and vault meta in which case you can afford rift protection lmao>didn't include the mana from the rocksWhere do you think the "low cost permanent" came from dipshit
>>94799082Regardless, would you rather those cards be exiled?
>>94799048>You assumed I played the most common average rocks, and not the most powerful?! Fucking pleb.>Why won't anyone engage with me honestly
>>94799108Yes I'd rather everyone's card were exiled in a heartbeat fuck Unigger you should be in the same level as everyone else
>>94799136So you're a spiteful idiot? Got it. I bet you dont have key cards and think "critical mass of creatures in combat" is a wincon.
>>94799157I have better chances to win if everyone has to rebuild than I do if one person doesn't that's not spite that's just common sense. The rest is irrelevant but yes a critical mass of creatures is definitely a wincon. Im curious, what is the blue player winning with after his rift if not combat damage...? If it's a combo he doesn't need to fucking rift, dumb fucking gorilla nigger your argument isn't even internally consistent
>>94799167rift can be used to you know, prevent your massive board from ramming into him, even if he's using combo
I heard you were having a problem with Cyclonic Rift?
>>94799167>yes a critical mass of creatures is definitely a winconNo. A wincon is a specific boardstate with specific conditions. >what is the blue player winning with after his rift if not combat damage...?Any variety of things. He may not win at all. In fact, he may need to remove an enchantment, creature, and artifact that are preventing him from comboing out, and 7cmc in monoblue is a reasonable rate for such utility. He may even be doing it for tempo reasons to prevent people from advancing beyond his capabilities for removal. He might even be trying to fight a problematic card when it needs to be recast but lacks answers for when it's resolved. Dont be daft.
>>94799229>specific board stateLots of creatures>specific conditionReducing your life to 0 by attacking Thank you for providing your definition so you cant deny it now :)>may not win at all>>94798798Uh oh stinky!!! Someone forgot what they already said in the discussion and is now floundering!
>>94799240Not everyone is the same person anon, and that has nothing to do with me. Which creatures? When will you cast them? How will you reduce a table's life to zero? How will you prevent people from interfering? How will you get those cards into your hand? The reason I'm making this point is that if you're at a level of play where these things arent considered, you should not be evaluating a card's suitability for bans.
>>94799263Ah at what point did the other anon bow out and you swapped in please reply to your first post
What's funny is cyclonic rift is probably the best answer to farewell.
>>94799286You mean clever concealment
>>94799286So only your stuff gets exiled and theirs goes to their hands?
>>94799271Fuck if I know? I dont even know what that jollyballoon man whatever means, and indexing my posts is not relevant to the discussion at hand.
>>94799319>>94799317They cast Farewell, then you bounce your stuff back to hand in response.
>>94799334Reread Rift.
>>94799340Whoops
I run Cyclonic Rift because it is funny to swing out with my juiced up Grimgrin then bounce all their blockers
What would be some good budget interaction (Removal, Counter Magic, Board Wipes, Conditional things) to run in an Izzet equipment deck?
>>94799439Why izzet? Boros gets you sunforger.
>>94799439Blasphemous ActVandal BlastSwan SongArcane DenialImmolating GyrePyroblast
I accidentally assembled today a four horsemen type infinite, and it's the second time it has happened with the deck. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>94799459>Why izzet?wanted to try something different so I'm running Galazeth Prismari as an equipment commander and using his ability to turn all artifacts into mana rocks for spells to always have mana for combat tricks and interaction
>>94799466Nondeterministic, or one that requires a specific sequence after shuffling your deck to win, which could theoretically take 1000 years to assemble?
>>94799474Based.I run Galazeth in the 99.Im running aggro, not equipment tho
>>94799474Not a fantastic choice for a voltron commander. I understand what you want to do, but seems like too many moving pieces to distill into a cohesive unit. Why not Tawnos or Rielle?
>>94799439Pyroclasm, brotherhood's end. Decent low end sweepers for red
>>94799439If you win, they might lose HP and thus become easier to kill, plus you countered their pesky spell.If you lose, they lose HP and thus become easier to kill.
>>94799459Izzet is one of the best equipment color combinations dude
>>94799490>Not a fantastic choice for a voltron commanderI wasn't really going for voltron so much as just running equipment along with other difficult to interact with creatures
>>94799520Just run Karlach + Sword Coast
>>94799513You gotta support that opinion.>>94799520Same general schtick, but if you arent all in on it, especially with a budget, it's not going to do what you expect.
>>94799475I went infinite with opponent's Crabomination. I cast Bribery, Fury Stormed it, got Sakashima and three other clones, Sakashima was Krark. the guy played a lot of clones, blink and whatever. I ended up hitting his Quasiduplicate and it returned to his hand, so I just reused it over and over to get more Crabominations. It wasn't as bad, so we could somewhat shortcut it, and everyone accepted that the natural end result would be me exiling their decks, hands and bins.
>>94799549R is the best equipment color and U is the best artifact color. Runechanter's Pike is one of the best equipments in the game. Ur has unblockable like crazy. Think on it dude.
>>94799490Probably a spellslinger deck it turns every shitty equipment like this into a mana rock for 1 usually but there are even some 0 cost ones
>>94799573White is the best equipment colour because it often draws cards, has stoneforge mystic, and some extremely powerful white-only equipment, like Godsend. Red is second. There are a million things you can do that buff creatures, and in an equipment decks your priority should be equipment with protection because the initial investment is very large to get it equipped, outside of new very specific cards that recognize this limitation. This is why the swords of x and y are so popular. Same with Kaldra. I just wanted to hear your opinion so I could learn something I may have been overlooking.
He took the bait
>>94797488>Innistrad Remastered: What's Your Plan?buy singles cause it honestly feels like something went wrong and I didn't see a single preview anywhere. like it just showed up on scryfall and it's painfully meh.
How's our first draft looking.https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6864678#paper
>>94799686Hey, arent you that /mtg/ shitter always brewing decks? Neat and welcome. First opinions? Seems like you have too many lands and misread the card, because you need to pay for all those spells, and your choices are often very expensive. Why not just run extra turn spells? Am I missing something?
>>94799686Looks dees. Why topple the tower? Also damn sea gate restoration got expensive.
>>94799585But that equipment is trash. Just run a mana rock.I mean, I guess if you go hard on the shartifact thing you can build a deck where the 0-mana artifacts are all worth running even when they do nothing. Or if you go hard on effects that count the number of equipments you have (including effects that attach all equipment), then some 0-mana equipments are worth running, but boros is better at that.
>>94799111>engage with me honestlyhere you go champ
>>94799733>70 cad nowDamn I got one sitting around somewhere time to trade that in
>>94799686>46 lands>curve at like 5What are you doing? Why are like half of your instants 4cmc or more?
>>94799776He misread Zethi like everyone else does the first time, and thought there was a "without paying their mana costs" in there.
>picked up a couple of upgrades for my decks>don't know what to cut for themI HATE CUTTING CARDS AAAAHHHHHH
>>94799847Post listOr just cut lands
>>94799847The secret is to have two copies of the same deck and gradually filter cards back and forth until you have a good deck and a shitty deck, then just get rid of the shitty deck
How many lands decks is too many?
>>94799899when you have two decks that actually are doing the exact same thing mechanically you've gone too far
Gay Bolas
>>94799943>200 replies inyou're slipping
>>94799917good thing these all do different things (and have surprisingly little overlap in cards)open to suggestions on additional lands decks
>>94799899>>94799974Any of the gay simic landfall draw cards commanders.
>>94799943How to get a dragon bf?
>>94798879Just have a little side board in your case and replace them if you see no one is running a blue commander.
>>94799974Tatyova Stax Combo
Honest opinions?
>>94800084Disenchant that can hit planeswalkers isn't really a niche that needs filling in most decks as removal that can't hit creatures needs to do a lot to justify a slot.
>>94800084How often are you gunna hit planeswalkers? Cause white can get both others for cheaper
>>94799974>gets lands back from the graveyard>gets lands back from the graveyard>gets lands back from the graveyard>gets creatures back from the graveyard…as lands
>>94800084used to run it but got powercrept hard. destroying and single target isn't good enough anymore. sure it's just 2 mana but I'd still rather run something more expensive to get multiple targets exiled
>>94799899you must keep going, my son.
>>94800134Can't be a commander though. Sadly.
I got some new cards in the mail
>>94800189>BlackGaaaaay.Still happy for you tho
>>94800084If it said "creature" instead of planeswalker it would be a solid option, however as of today it's in the color combo with Anguished Unmaking, Generous Gift, and Stroke of Midnight for 1 more mana. (I'm not counting Vindicate that's sorcery speed)
>>94799847>>94799866I was going to say something like this. If you like your deck so much that you don't want to cut a single card, then you obviously have a good deck list, so write down your deck list. Don't think of yourself as cutting cards from that list, that list is eternal and will always have the same cards on it that it does now. Think of it like you're trying to build a rival-deck to show up the first deck, then you can strip out everything but the frame and rebuild it with the mindset that it's a new deck.
>>94800123>draws into combo pieces>does funny cycle things>control>does funny morph thingsthey do all recur lands now that you mention it>>94800189mirin’ the Spectsr, ended up cutting most of my specters as well as the megrim-type effects in my discard deckgrabbed a couple more cards for it the other day
Post decks EDHG
>>94800321My main issue is when my pet cards get powercrept. Creakwood Liege and Ink-Eyes aren't really cutting it in 2025.
The best part of this format being so creature-centric is you can expect artifacts and enchantments to live forever.
>>94800333Wow, you sure built all of those decks in exactly the most obvious way you could. Very riveting post.
>>94800084If you're in BW there are dozens of better cards.
>>94799951I'm not a bot I'm just a human with a shitty sleep schedule.Honestly I'll probably stop posting entirely when FF drops. No interest in space set or Spider-Man. Return to Tarkir is probably the best place to end things off.
>>94800305Generous gift is unplayably bad
Is it normal to feel like 90% of games are just completely match-up dependent?If my opponents deck is trying to do a thing I dont have answers for, or it's essentially a hard counter to my strategy, I might as well not play.
>>94800326I'm building Malfegor, do you have any recommendations?
>new cards came in>two of them are from fallout>two of them are from dr whoFUUUUUUCKKKKK i didn't check my order hard enough now i have to reorder new ones
>>94800495Are you medically retarded?
>>94800554> spend three (3) mana on "removal"> give opponent a sizable bodyya no I'll stick to removal that isnt trash
>>94800560generous gift is 3 mana "get rid of literally anything" there are absolutely a wide variety of things you want gone yesterday, and don't care if it leaves an irrelevant body behind
>>94800560>instant speed>destroy anythingA 3/3 is nothing in this format. If that even registers as an inconvenience you need to build better decks. It's arguably one of the top tier removal spells in the format, albeit on the expensive end of the curve.
>>94800589>It's arguably one of the top tier removal spells in the format,Then why dont cEDH players run it?>>94800578>generous gift is 3 mana "get rid of literally anything"Yes and its too expensive. You can run better removal that casts cheaper and doesnt compensate
>>94800614cEDH is a distinct format, with its own dynamics and environment. Kind of a silly response.
>>94800614>You can run better removal that casts cheaper and doesnt compensateName a single card
>>94800589It's not even the best mono white 3 drop removal anon lmao
>>94800265Gimme anzrag tips
>>94800646DispatchSwords to PlowsharesDisenchantBlasphemous ActDoombladeDamnFracture
>>94800333Cool stuff besides the UB, you're probably really fun to play with when your wife's boyfriend doesn't make you upset by teasing you.
>>94800518>Is it normalNo. If you’re getting hard countered or don’t have the right answers 90% of the time, you should take a look at your decks and try to improve their ability to handle these situationsReanimator decks will eat shit into a Rest in Peace, but you can improve your odds from 90% by packing more enchantment removal, for example>>94800519What’s your game plan with Malfegor? My Liliana deck is trying to get everyone hellbent then pull ahead by having the splashiest topdecks. Doesn’t always work but it’s a fun way to do Mono-B stompy. I cut the burn-on-discard cards because they didn’t feel impactful enough if I saw them late, but they might be workable in your Malfegor brew.
>>94800333My decks are both based on Yu-Gi-Oh cards. One is based on Summoned Skull and the other is based on Solemn Judgement. I am an asshole
>>94800333
>>94800536If you don't have anything better to do with them you should post a webm of you burning them.
>>94800536At least they'll be easy to pawn off on some dipshit.>>94800707Pretty sure none of those destroy lands, 5 are exclusive to creatures.
>>94800707Is this post a joke
>>94800189Big fan of that kardur. Those frames in general.
>>94800658It is actually
>>94800189>he bought the nignet
>>94800707>Fracture
kek, power level 7 Andys cant cope with generous gift being a bad card
I tell ya, these threads have had some of the worst "hot takes" I've ever seen. Do you guys do this for fun?
>>94800816Then explain why I've cut it from all my decks for better removal?
>>94800833put your trip back on you can't use waifu reaction images and pretend we won't notice
>>94800861I can't explain your subjective experience, only you can do that.
>the better removal
>>94800448post decks you salty cunt
>>94800333Current decks:Krenko, aggro/combo. Wort the Raidmother, spellslinger storm combo. Wort Boggart Auntie, goblin aristocrats. Uril, voltron. Winota, goblin/human tribal. Teysa, voltron. Azami, extra turns and artifact shenanigans. Edgar Markov, pure aggro. Minsc and Boo, cEDH Protean Hulk combo stuff. Sliver Overlord, battle cruiser with a few infinite combos.Currently building:Giada, I want it to be a battle cruiser deck with alt wincons like Felidar Sovereign, Test of Endurance, Halo Fountain and Approach of the Second Sun. With a side theme of indestructible angels and Worldslayer.Bello Bramble Bard. Only in the beginning phase of putting this deck together but I want to include Leylines and Elemental tribal synergies.
The first cards of my Sek'kuar Orc boys arrived today. hype
>>94800884I'm new to magic and retarded, why is this supposed to be bad?
>>94800982It's actually one of the best removal spells in the format (cEDH)
>>94800333Replaced Sidar with Varina and Greasefang with Archimandrite
>>94800982You're playing a format where everyone always has a creature tutored that their whole deck is built around, and it's 2 mana removal that doesn't hit creatures.It's not the worst card ever but it's in the colors with way better options.
>>94801002Oh you put together the Varina deck already? Care to share?
>>94800982Its not, they are just copingThey will say b..b..but it doesn't hit creatures! (Ok then run Swords to Plowshares too)They will say b..b..but Generous Gift hits EVERYTHING. But they will forget to mention that 3 mana single target removal is embarrassingly slow
This works how I think?>activate analyst>pattern triggers>realm razer etbs>in response to either pattern, activation or realm razer i sac my lands>realm razer resolves everyone's lands go bye bye>my lands are returned thanks to analystYes?
>>94801011Honestly paying more than 1 mana for removal is cringe.
>>94801047Unless its a cyclonic rift. Then its based
>>94801002>varina>vaginalol
Post underrated removal spells
>>94801071>using this on an opponent's creature
>>94801030it's just missing a way to sac realm razer before his first effect resolves so your opponent's lands never re-enter
>>94801008I still gotta cut 40 or so cards. There were a LOT of cool zombies and fun discard/sacrifice stuff to play with.Ratadrabik and Cleaver Skaab make me wanna make tons of copies of legendary creatures I have in there too like Oketra, Ojer Taq, Mondrak, etc.https://archidekt.com/decks/10851369/rise_of_the_lich_queen>>94801054oh FUK
>>94801071wtf thats goated
wat should i build around him?i grew tired of flooding everyone with mana and then burning the table down
>>94801002fuck off faggot
>>94801112>I grew tired of what my commander is good atbuild a different commander
>>94801071I kind of want to slot some cards like that that can give your opponents 1/1s. Then play it with this and Meathook Massacre.
>>94801077They are more than welcome to kill realm razer
>>94801112artifacts or somethingflickerspellslinger
>>94801123If you're running something like Baeloth Barrityl, you can give him +1 power (and a black background obviously) and use stuff like this and Varchild's War Riders to make a HUGE amount of tokens under other people's control and force them to beat the shit out of each other with them too.
>>94800393Well sure, people discuss deckbuilding on /tg/ and the assumption is that they want to keep adding new cards to make their deck more powerful, but of course you don't have to do that. I'd suggest keeping your old decks and using them against newer players, they'll be using better cards but with bad deckbuilding so it's sort of fair.In any event, having the old deck list written down means you can always go back to it as long as you keep the cards, the newer versions of the deck might not work as well as you think but they also may just be less fun, and if so then that's reason enough to go back to the old list.
>>94801139why did this spike in price? I got mine for nothing but now it's twenty bucks
>>94801146People probably realized it's good as fuck. It's especially good with things like Pitiless Plunderer, Baeloth Barrityl, Species Specialist, sac outlets, or really anything that capitalizes on goad/sacrifice/creature entry/death because you'll get 3 cycles of triggers before you even have to pay the CUpkeep once. I got mine for like 8 bucks and it's been on a steady rise since.
>>94801146It's reserve list
>>94801139Hmmm I'd have to change my list up to use that. Im running Dauthi Voidwalker and Gisa, both of which exile opponents' cards. Something like that could work very well though. I'm also running pic rel which is scary as hell
>>94801112Group hug.
>>94801165That would also be absolutely brutal with it. Assuming only 3 creature cards per graveyard, that's 6 life off of each player each and every turn. Anything extra starts to get excruciating to deal with.
>>94801220That would be a fun deck to lean into. Aggressively mill opponents with that artifact that mills on untapping anything. Make opponents play lots of tokens. Play toxic deluge to kill all tokens. Would be pretty good.
>>94801244Mesmeric Orb, Tombstone Stairwell, and if you're running red I'd say slap this baby in. Forbidden Orchard is also good, any color mana for the low-low price of giving someone a 1/1
>>94801080what are your wincons?
>>94801275Damn now I need to find a Mardu commander and run all this. That is perfect. I dont want to run cringe vampire tribal though.
You did build a deck around Tumblr's favorite magic card right?
>>94801323>Plague Belcher/Zombie Knight/Wayward Servant + Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar>Rooftop Storm + Acererack the ArchlichOr, and my preferred method, the tried and true turning zombies with tons of keywords sideways>>94801351Zurgo, Kelsien, Malik, or Caesar seem like they'd all be good for this
>>94801369Which one is Alesha in that picture?
Any other spicy gift a fish cards out there?
>>94801481There are exactly 6 in the entire game because they were just invented. Gift as a mechanic might come back, since they didn't make it hyper specific to Bloomburrow like they've done with other mechanics, but those will probably involve gifting other things like Engine Parts or Alien DNA.
>>94801423The old lady
>>94801369A buddy of mine is building her
>>94801514post firja list
>>94801514>six(6!) crapenna commanders
>>94800707ah I see, a troll post
>>94801577not him but Capenna is the absolute best nu-mtg set
>>94801369I like alesha mechanically but I don't really like 3 color decks and it would just be weenie tribalthough I do really like Dreadhorde Arcanist
Damn people are really defensive about their budget removal. How dare you suggest alternatives to Generous Gift!Ok poorfags, play your <1$ removal sheesh. Just don't let your girl know you run removal slop at 3 CMC because of budget constraints.
>>94801514I just wanna say that I would vannifar
Anybody got something spicy for this guy? I'm currently thinking of building him as Dimir Aristocrats via Clan Crafter, using artifact tokens
>>94801608She knows that I run 5CMC interaction :)
>>94801633if you hard cast FoW you will be forever deemed eternal edh god king and will be the new spirit of the format
>>94801589Dogshit opinion
>>94801071That's just weird worse ephemerate. Into the flood maw however...>>94801623Hatred. Lashwrithe. Unspeakable symbol.
>>94801645sometimes you just gotta pay the five brother
>>94801645No. The best I've ever seen was someone dark ritualing in their upkeep after they pacted with too few lands and surviving. Balls as big as grapefruits, I tell you what.
>>94801623Mono black worldslayer + this background. Realistically you can get 3 worldslayer procs off before you just sit there and everyone is drained slowly
>>94801661I remember running this and karlach at my pre release. T'was a grand time
>>94801608Generous gift hits lands
>>94801669so does strip mine, smelling kinda broke in here bud
>>94801669I rather use land based land destruction because it replaces itself whereas generous gift will be gone
>>94801690>>94801694If you can't see the benefit of a card that can hit different permanent types then you suck at the game
>>94801707You're paying triple rate for that versatility, at that point just run Wrath of God for 1 more mana.
>>94801707A 3/3 is a huge drawback for a 3 mana vindicate.
>>94800707Genuinely embarrassing
>>94801707If you can't see why single target removal at 3 CMC which also compensates the opponent is too slow, then you suck at the game
>>94801707I have never seen someone blow up a land with generous gift and no one's pretending it's not good to be versatile. Id take excise over generous gift any day
>>94801589
>>94801771>puppet friend is backIt's been years!
>>948015777 actually, I forgot Ziatora.>>94801567https://moxfield.com/decks/euYl3HbotEml6Ry_Y7rKCQ Haven't played it in a long time but here you go, hasn't been updated much since LCI. It's mostly a casual deck for friends where I fuck around with a lot of bad creatures and spells I like.
>>94801589this but duskmourn
>>94801795>>94801589Both of these opinions are measurable dogshit get some taste
>>94801795Bloomburrow is the only set since Khans that's been halfway decent
>>94801807everybody shitting the bed, but no one mentions a better one of the new, pre 2020 mtg era
>>94801809Absolutely not. A few cards are okay; the theming, lore, and general power level were awful.
Generous Gift enjoyers cant even remove this LMAO
>>94801823>still memeing about general power level>despite BLB seeing more of its cards have any play than any other set this yearWhy should anyone take you seriously when you're clearly just parroting biased and false statements?
>>94801809I disagree with the "since Khans" threshold, but would agree with "since THB".
>>94801809We get it. BREEDABLE BUNNY
>>94801823>general power level of bloomburrow was low>low>bloomburrowBe grateful you're stuck in the edh kiddie pool.
>>94801833Mh3 came out this year. The set of 10 lands from MkM are seeing play. I have no interest in arguing with a shitposter for hours. Go on, do your faggot dance, it's no longer my problem.
>>94801847Seems like standard technology from the mouse deck. Neat. I'd rather fling kiln fiend anywhere that matters, but it is cool.
>>94801849Why do you speak so confidently on things you don't know anything about anon? BLB had a bigger impact in formats than either mkm or mh3
>>94801847They are low power outside standard Don't forget feather exists
>>94801903>Notice me senpai!Nah. Be tsundere else where.
>Okay I attack.>I do 10 damage damage because I have 10 1/1s.>But I have Fiery Emancipation on the board, so I actually do 30 damage to you. No blocks, just 30 damage to your face, fuck you. Block? Go head, but I have loshen on the board two so you do no combat damage to her.>I gain 10 life. Fuck you.Boros is aids.
>>94801936>no my opponent won't let me durdle the entire game
>>94801936boros is aids? anon boros is probably the least aids you can get
>>94801941>nngghh i want to do the bare minimum and have the solution in the command zone: the commanderthe list is ever growing
>>94800659Lure effects and making him indestructible will win the game. Run Tectonic Giant and Doors of Durin to add burn damage and keep building value while infinitely slamming Anzrag into anything bigger than him. Attack triggers are your friend big time. Unfortunately, he's designed to go infinite so he gets stale really fast. I took my Anzrag deck apart after my third win.
>>94801975This is a weak commander vulnerable to not only creature removal, artifact removal and board wipes, but also anything that limits attacks. Be better.
>>94801936>An opponent who has a large board with pieces to support it is strongshocking revelations only here in /edh/
>>94801989Sounds like you need better competition.
>>94801936What do you play?
>>94802057At a lgs. Was at a "Casual table" what I posted was turn 3.
>>94802063No it wasn't lmao it's a literal impossibility to have 10 creatures AND fiery emancipation
>>94802063>EDH player only sees final board that killed him and not engine that got him there
>>948020631) Not what I asked2) Gonna have to give me the rundown on how they got 10 creatures and Fiery Emancipation on the field by turn 3?
>>94802063>Turn 3With my boros deck I can get 10 1/1s out by turn 3. However, it has to assume I have to many perfect cards in hand on first draw to get there and have had literally no one interacted with my board. To have 10, a Losheen, and Fiery emancipation on the board one turn 3 without the most expensive rocks is completely, statistically impossible
>>94802146Don't forget Arabella too so 2 mana realistically an entire early game turn was spent on the commander...
I wanted to make a breena deck... But my cardpool sucks too much, I don't even have a single playable white card. Sad!
>>94800894post klothys decklist
>>94801936>spirit guide lotus petal for t1 Arabella>lands and rocks for losheel t1>t2 play small tokens i suppose let's assume sol ring, arcane and some mox 2 lands so 6 mana maybe 4-6 tokens?>convoke in city on fire>t3 make the rest of the tokens i guess????This seems very slightly possible although I am assuming there are enough low cost token producers to do it seems like you're full of shit
>>94802202>>convoke in city on fireYes, that would be possible, but that's not what card he said. Completely full of shit
>>94802078Yup. It's a classic around these parts, and the first piece of advice I give new players.
>Opp is drawing 5 cards a turn! SHUT IT DOWN>Opp just tutored, he's fine
>>94802218Yeah I'm trying to be generous to figure out if something similar was even possible
>>94802244Yes. Why is this contentious?
Whats with edh players always praying at their local lds? Are a lot of you in Utah?
>>94802324I have many questions and the answers will only lead to more questions.
I wish there was a commander that was this
>>94802350
>>94802350Look up Whisper, it's one of the best budget commanders ever.
Whats the best way to share a deck anonymously
>>94801906It's one of the best decks in pioneer also. Feather doesn't see play because she's slow.
>>94802420moxfield alt accountAre there any other cards where the SL printing mogs all others? Hardmode : No Frazzata
>>94802459But the flavour text is bad...
>>94802569Using ellipses like this is gay as fuck
>>94802581Not as gay as your flavour text.
>>94802590What's good flavour text then Mr. Simmons?
>>94802646>inb4 le "land continues to burn" meme
>>94802646The original is fine. That flavour text insists on itself:>picture of a scientist holding some creature>quoted adage to setup an inversion of expectations, wotc's favorite trope>punchline is neither funny, world building, nor interesting, just a statement emphasizing he's a wacky science man>not even a pun
>>94802646"Catch!"
>>94802646Flavor text is how you do world building. The absolute state of flavor text in Magic is because they're bad at world building and have nothing that they want to show off.
>>94801829If they are playing W, they can remove it.
>>94802459Command Tower (pixel art)
>>94802766>82 command tower printingsHoly cow.
>>94802766I don't care for the pixel lands myself. I do have a favorite Command Tower from Secret Lair though.
>>94801765I blew up Thespians Stage to stop Dark Depths shenanigans not too long ago. Sounds like you don't play against strong decks.
>>94802704>insists on itselfbro family guy lines
>>94802834I guess? I've seen a fair share of episodes but I cant point to one with that line.
>>94802760shouldn't this be the blue mana symbol
>>94802830Why would i ever be scared of a single token
>>94802888I dunno. Why don't you post your decks and we'll see if you should be or not?
is it BM to counterspell a creature
>>94802202>>94802255Turn 1>Gemstone>Land>S o y Ring>Losheel>Petal>Mox Diamond (hand empty)>Commander (+1 off Losheel)>End with 1 card in handTurn 2:>5 open, 2 in hand, 2 on board>Land>Thopter, cycling off Losheen>Secure the Wastes X = 5 (hand empty)>//EmptyTurn 3:>6 open, 1 in hand, 8 on board>Reckless Impulse, hand empty>Memnite from exile, going +1 with Losheen>Convoke Wildfire Awakener from exile, X = 11>Convoke City on Fire (we're cheating here replacing Fiery Emancipation with it), hand empty>Arabella declares attack, checks 20 valid creatures on board deals 60 damage for lethalLegit Christmas hand but it's technically possible.
>>94802947What a soulless, gay deck. Half you midwits need to understand you don't actually like commander, and would be much happier in a 60c format.
>>94802947Your math is off by a card for gemstone.
>>94802976Did you even read the post you stupid fucking nigger. Half you midwits need to get a different hobby and stop looking for shit to bitch about
>>94802976???I was posing a hypothetical situation. This type of play actually happening would be utterly absurd with how comically unlikely it is.>>94802977Draw for turn. He has 8 in hand at start.
>>94802976What are you on about, turd burglar? Stop picking fights
>>94802980Fair enough, my mistake.
>>94802459I hate when flavor text tries to be funny and it just isn't.
>>94803016If it makes you feel better I forgot to account for the cost of Reckless Impulse and the convoke value of Memnite, so Wildfire Awakener should be X = 10, lowering the creature count to 19 and the damage to 57.
I was playing with friends tonight and I noticed that they have all started scraping the table with their cards when they draw and it's going to drive me absolutely insane.
>>94802459I'm biased though because the art depicts my favorite Creepshow episode
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>>94800719I mainly just play beaters and discard effects to drag everyone else down to my level. Malfegor is a big dumb beater that gets me hellbent and acts as a boardwipe in the command zone.
thread dead?
>>94802813Based and correct
>>94802947>gemstone>petal>mox diamondgay
>>947975574GGTrample6/6
>>94803866>6/6>monogreen????Trample I can agree with
>>94803888She will be a Colossal Dreadmaw reskin.
>>94798617Scion of the Ur Dragon. Or Rith the awakener.
It's mostly reprints but og insisted is where I first picked the game back up... so maybe a nostalgia box
>>94804116>mostly reprintsIt's entirely reprints. It's a reprint set.
>>94798686It's only cringe if you sandbag yourself on your way to become Archenemy.
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