Giant Duels Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>94781632>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolswarhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>Thread question:What army do you hate dealing with?
Say something nice about the baby trog
>>94800883Why are it's eyes in the mouth?Is it supposed to be a skin walker?
>>94800796>What army do you hate dealing with?Anything Elf related is usually a good contender for an NPE
>>94800883I like his eyes being lower than his nose lmao
>>94800898Babies are always kinda deformed. Give him some time to grow
>>94800883Are trogs birthed live or hatch from eggs?
>>94800796Ironjawz. I play CoS, lots of melee privateers and cannons. The goal is to chip away at the enemy and pound them to dust at mid-range, then use the cavaliers like a scalpel. Nighthaunt or Idoneth, I play an interesting game of keep-away to kill their forces before they go nuts. Lumineth or Ossiarchs I'm dissassembling their army with my own or visa versa. Even Sons of Behemet is me playing the army in any Godzilla movie, trying to shoot down titans while they crush my troops.Ironjawz? Big Boss on Mawkrusha engages my forces. I either kill him and win the entire game, or I lose. Every game with those green retards is a coin flip, but not even a fun one like SoB because they're nothing more then green retards.
Post your New Year projects. I´ve been working on my Chaos Warriors for the Spearhead. I don't hate em but I don't love em either. Any ideas what to add to make them cooler?
>>94800967I bought Brutes and Bandits, but forgot i lended someone my green paint
Going to build out my CoS for the new year new army thing going on out here. This is what I'm looking to put down, what do you all think of it?Cities of SigmarAlchemite Warforger (110)- 10 x Freeguild Steelhelms (90)- 10 x Freeguild Steelhelms (90)- 10 x Freeguild Steelhelms (90)Freeguild Cavalier-Marshal (150)- 10 x Freeguild Cavaliers (320)- 20 x Freeguild Fusiliers (240)- 1 x Ironweld Great Cannon (110)Freeguild Marshal and Relic Envoy (110)[General]- 6 x Freeguild Command Corps (160)- 1 x Fusil-Major on Ogor Warhulk (180)- 20 x Freeguild Fusiliers (240)- 1 x Ironweld Great Cannon (110)2000/2000pts3 dropsGenerated by Listbot 4.0
>>94800898I think we're largely interpreting the figure wrong and a large part of what we think is his nostril is actually just his brow which the sculptor has simplified as fusing into the nose ridgein any case it's not impossible for an animal to have the nasal cavity situated above the eyes, it is anomalous to have nostrils with their mucouses right over the eye, but trolls have freaky developments apparently
>>94800796Fucking Nighthaunt. Take a drink every time you get a -1 to whatever and you’ll be on the floor by round 2. Everyone gets charge abilities and then on top of good hero buffs.
>>94800796shining company. god damn. we've got a guy who runs a whole shining company lumineth army and he puts half the damn store on a 5+ to hit permanently
Any daring predictions that aren't a new vamp on a horse?
>>94801095we already know it's not a vampire on a horse but a black knight champion
>>94801100Retard
>>94801095emperors children are the stars of this reveal so they are unlikely to show off any age of sigmar shit to upstage them or steal the spotlight.that said i think we might see more than just the vamp, i wouldnt be surprised to see the grave guard too along with a new spearhead that incorporates them both, on account of their current spearhead being too good of a deal
>>94801109And because the old grave guard will be in TOW by 2026, so need to get squatted sooner than later.
>>94801109>emperors children are the stars of this revealnot even close, they've got only 3 kits and 2 infantry heroes to show since they already blew their load about fulgrimvampires on the other hand have to show an elite infantry unit, a cavalry unit and a big named hero on dragon, and that's only at the very least
>>94800883at first I was a bit iffy but when I realized he's hiding under a table he became my favorite.
>>94801141that's not a table
>>94800998>almost 90 modelsAoS gonna be like new Guard or just CoS?
>>94800967Got tzeench stuff that I wanna paint up but I dunno how I want to customize them to make them more personalized.
>>94801100>black knight championSkeleton in me wish it too but it's some zesty vampire
>>94800967>Post your New Year projects.Patiently waiting for priming weather, and the Gitmob army box drop>Any ideas what to add to make them cooler?it might be my inner Slaanesh, but I'd say make the capes more eye catching. More variations in the colors and patternsDoing the bases will help a lot too
>>94801213Post close up from side. I wonder if those wolves are salvageable somehow or cad-cursed.
>>94801214Just CoS. My FEC list has like half that many models at most.
Is there an army that really is just missing something for it to be complete?Was gonna say kruleboyz with cavalry or decent foot infantry but if i remember they are gonna be mixed with orruks so there's that
>>94801240If you mean can the saddle and tac be removed, maybe but it would take a lot of greenstuff fur. The saddles are part of the wolf, and the leather straps and shields fit into molded depressions on the sides.If you just want wolves it would be way easier to buy Fenrisian wolves or go third party
>>94800967Week 1 down on my Wardens, pretty rapid progress for me relatively speaking. Also had a friend print off some manifestations for me for my upcoming GT. Not sure what colors I want to do for the jaws.
>>94800764Being dense on purpose?
>>94801396That silver and old is actually fucking beautiful.
i've got 20 of the old ardboyz.i've just been informed that the new ironjawz battletome will encourage a lot of ardboyz, and that my pigs are on the struggle bus (something about all their best damage profiles being 5+ to hit?) so, do i continue with the old boyz and buy the old world black orcs box or get a couple boxes of the new boyz? i dont hate the new boyz, but i do worry about them clashing with my old boyz since they look so different. the brutes didnt look that different because they had open faces and bare arms so there was a bit in common, but the new ardboyz are head to toe in that new ironjawz beaten armor and NOT A GOD DAMN AXE IN SIGHT?!?! i'd have to fix that. anyways, thoughts? also does anyone have a good size comparison between an old boy and a new boy? they look like they're on the same bases as far as i can tell. also if you could throw a brute or a rager in there for comparison too that'd be mint
>>94800883i like everything about him besides his face, which is atrocious
Why doesn’t sigmar taking souls happen during any novels? Does he have enough stormcast
>>94801100in the pic its black knight champ, but were getting both.
asking about Sylvaneth listbuilding if i specifically dont want to use alarielle, also how much worse off would i be using the default treelord instead of durthu or the ancient?
Assembling this was just the worst, but now my ghouls have a little castle.
>>94802129He looks so comfy
>>94801574The new ones are a tiny bit bigger
Horses
>>94801007Trugg, Molog and the dankhold all look exactly the same, with the same brow ridge that melds into the nose, they just don't paint the skin around the eyes a different colour. That's the real reason it's putting people off, it's purely an odd paint decision
>>94801884If you wanted examples of it happening in novels you could've just asked for that anon
>>94802083Normal treelord isn't a wizard, has the same melee profile and other stats as the ancient does just with a sidegraded shooting attack that it can use while in combat. It's a budget option i guess, but probably one you build around having in a monster mash list rather than something you just put in there.Alarielle is pretty good but you don't really need her, you probably do need a Belthanos or Lady of Vines if you're not using her though, just because your selection of wizards is pretty thin and you desperately need multiple spell casts a turn
God I love sylvaneth but there playstyle seems hard to get into.
>>94802441NTA but the last time that was a plot point was what? Malign Portents
>>94802829Any advice would be welcome.
>>94802860Can you show me a picture? But my usual method is to make a large surface and connect it to the foot then glu the surface.
>>94802501maybe i just run my normal treelord as an ancient then, since theres already not much difference between them besides a staff and the face (main reason i want the normal treelord over the others)As for the others, i was already looking at belthanos since i have some spite riders and have thought about getting some kurnoth hunters. Might also just add in LoV aswell since shes a nice build and model for the most part (really feel like allariele should have looked like her more, or even just more like drycha)
>>94801884It happens in Vulture Lord
>>94800967I am working on this troggboss now. Hoping that by the time I am done with him, and all of my rockguts, I will be decent enough at painting to not ruin my Trugg.
>>94800796>TQBattle tactics
>>94801574>>94802353Yeah, barely taller, much thiccer though
>>94803400
>>94802536It's a lot easier than 3rd edition.The biggest curveball is that you need a lot of wyldwood kits
>>94801243Greetings fellow FECbro, are you trying to run some competetive list? I bloody hate listbuilding in 4th.>>94801256Thx for info, I was thinking about making one unit of crypt guard mounted but I dont like those side shields. New chariot looks quite nice and wanna get my hand on it.>>94802129Fancy throne my liege.
>>94803555Just get some irl sticks, they literally grow on trees
>And I thought they smelled bad, on the outside!
>>94800796Is that warpriest basedfacing?
>>94800796how the fuck do 4 heroes take down a giant that big
Anyone have a link to the latest generals handbook?
Picked this up, I don't think GW is still selling these? IDK what is up with that.
>>94803861Man if you're lookin for a bunch of chuds to get riled up about this, you're in the wrong general. You would unironically have better luck dropping that in the whfb general and watching them shitmar post for a whole thread
Same fag.
>>94803843I think the armor is cool. Also the lack of legs might dilute its identity between night haunt and soul blight, but I’m personally for it.
>>94803843GW never started selling those as far as i know
>>94800883I think it's funny that his nostrils are placed right over his eyes.
>>94803843That's just a commemorative model, GW prints something like that once in a while
>>94803890I know what a Commemorative model is, but usually they also sell them online unless it is a event only mini? And Othar isn't an event mini.
>>94803843they havent even released this guy yet
>>94803843I want to believe the joke here is that he was a halfling and he's now pretending to be taller
Do fyre slayers have any kits that are good for bits?
>>94803999no
>>9480403540k presumably since those look like metal/artificial wings.
>>94804035That’s so obviously blood angels.
>>94804053or possibly a statue on some piece of terrain or base decoration
>>94803999you get some axes and shields but thats about it. you get a left over hero from the magmadroth kit
>>94804035Some bird
>>94803999Magmadroth has tones of random gubbins.Both infantries have multiple weapon options
>>94804054Blood Angels just had their Codex so i don't think it can be them
>>94804095There's not really any highlighting or blending on it so my money is on scenery or base sceneryIf it was part of an actual models main figure the painting team would have spent much more time on it, especially something as focal as a wing
How fast are ogres to paint.I'm tired of my main army so I want to bring a basic bitch ogre list with a giant mercenary to a gameThis list will have 2 foot heroes and 20 ogres.
>>94804162Pretty simple, mostly just skin, leather, cloth pants, and some metal and wood for the gutplate and helmet. The skin gives some people trouble but I think that's mostly just because citadels skintone paints are assIf you know how to zenithal you could probably finish the whole army in a day
>>94804162Pretty fast. Big models, lots of skin, only real problem is their tight elbows in poses. Probably one of the easiest and fastest armies to paint all in all.
>>94802129Nice
>>94804160there actually is a tiny bit of highlighting on the wings, still could be a statue but its almost certainly some shade of whitePossibly raven guard or something, but who knows its not enough to definitively say that its mechanical or just oddly unorganic feathers
>>94804162You want at least 8 iron guts and a unit of 12 ogres.People who know how to play AoS in tourneys can apparently beat them easily but in my LGS I stopped using them because they are just too oppressive of a stat check
>>94804035
>>94804322It's going to be the cherub on the new Black Templar unit.They use similar iconography to sisters
>>94804334is there some rumored black templars unit? i kind of thought their whole line was done
>>94804322pretty much identical but slightly less curvy/organic. maybe a robo-cherub or cherub statue
>>94804336Never can have too many space marines that almost all look the same anyways
>>94804322>>94804334>>94804344I was thinking it's some kind of a tank/terrain/whatever ornament. Might be also a part of the Emperor's Children emblem. Most likely 40k but might also be something for the Old World (unlikely we already know what's coming out for the Empire, unless it's High Elves...) or maybe some form of altar or something for Cities of Sigmar... 90% it's 40k.
>>94804284>You want at least 8 iron guts and a unit of 12 ogres.Yeah, that's what my list will consist of.I hate 4th edition enforcing reinforced infantry/cav spam, but that the only way to stay on the table for longer than a round >People who know how to play AoS in tourneys can apparently beat them easily Low saves and 4+ to hit demands ogres get in fights asap and avoid debuffs when possible.Otherwise, they start to melt extremely fast
>>94804529>get in fights asapThats what the Butchers are forAlso 4+ to hit isnt that bad considering they are Wound 2+
>>94804095They fucked up the models. This is them trying to fix it.
>>94804670Has GW ever released a "fix" for a bad model release ?
My local is starting a spearhead league, and I needed an excuse to start a new paint project anyway. What's your favorite spearhead mechanically?
>>94804692Stormcast. But GW works 3+years in advance. Everything they release this year will have probably been in the works since before 3E came out. It's the reason that whenever they try to pivot in response to feedback it feels retarded and out of date, because it is.
>>94804692They canned the original set of space wolves mark 6 heads and redesigned them to be more bland because people made fun of them
>>94804700Out of the ones i tired i liked Nighthaunt
Does AoS have half-Aelves?
>>94804752no, in fact I think BL books have officially stated in AoS Human and Aelves can't crossbreed.
>>94803955He used to be a fulling but now he's a halfling anon.
>>94804752NoCaptcha:SARS
>>94804752Yes. Here's a picture of one.
>>94803843How much will this guy cost anyhow? I think he's neat and I can double him up as a wight king or the nighthaunt ghost knight hero.
>>94804752Put some Aelves in front of some Orruks and they'll leave half-Aelves all over the place
>>94804827I paid 30 euros
>>94804823Heh>>94804827About as much as any normla hero model, assuming you won't have to get it off ebay after some obscure event distribution
I got some cloth to imitate chainmail. Dry fit first and already have problem, cloth looks fine but should I paint gheist first than add cloth or add more 'chainmail' layers to cover whats underneath? Because with just one layer you can clearly see model under it.
>>94805061That looks like chicken wire.
>>94805061I’d try and make a hood onto the head of the model. But first you need to paint it.
>>94805061How do you plan on hardening\painting it?
>>94800796Soon
>>94804752Yes Coven of blood had onePrince Maesa the BL novel that >>94804767 mentioning that they can't crossbreed was a White dwarf story that than retcon out when it became a full fledge BL novel.so yeah Hlaf-aelves are a thing
>>94803400>>94801574>>94800967Getting 20 more Ardboyz ready. Already have 20 done. Played the new AoR against FEC last weekend. It took 4 combats for Ushoran, 2 reinforced units of cryptflayer, marrowcroll, and an internal courtier to chew through 20 of them. Zoggrok removing wards while have a 4+ ward himself is awesome.
>>94803097>>94805061I think I know what would help. Add.more holes, and maybe add a saddle or some cloth lightly on top that the chainmail is spilling out of, holes would be good to show gore underneath.
>>94805252yea..thats the question would it be pointless if I than cover it up?>>94805263Watered down pve glue.>>94805582Thats good idea.
>>94805412Imagine my shock when I learn about Zoggrok AoR and it needing 2x20 Ardboyz at least while I still havent painted my 20.I wish it was a brutes focused army.Also does anyone have the Orruk warclans pdf?
>>94805795I've been looking around but haven't seen one yet. The book doesn't ship come out until Saturday anyway. There's been a rumor that the battle scroll will at least change the waaagh back to once per hero instead of once per battle and possibly other things tooI bring a reinforced unit of brutes with a megaboss in the AoR. The artifact (-1 to saves, no positive save modifiers to units damages by the hero) combined with making the brutes fight next with +1 attack is excellent.
>Sanctum of Amyntok>Can be cast on any Wizard not within 3" of a terrain feature>Can only be targetted with a Banish ability >When measuring ranges, the Sanctum has to be the target>Attack is an abilityDoes this mean if your opponent can't Banish, then you can essentially lock down any objective by having a wizard sit on top of it with Sanctum up?
>>94805412This means FEC hammers are shit. I dont think recent point drops wont help here.
>>94805941are we really living in a world where a flying deepstriking hammer with 42 damage 2 attacks is considered bad?
Anyone tried using the Daemon Prince RoR yet? Does he perform decently outside of StD?
>>94805941to be fair I got pinned in my deployment and with all the extra noble deed generation ushoran was on 6 points at the top of 2. We only made it to 3 rounds before I got tabled. Their momentum is really good now I think.
>>94805921Seems like it. Hilarious, actually.
>>94804435I actually like the BT, they look like Space Marines should
>>94805386>>94804752Har Kuron breeding pits
>>94800967Slowly finishing my casual Stormcast army.Finished my Questors today.
>>94805979>>94806016My bad, I though 4 combats as in 4 full rounds. That make more sense now. That said if one unit can hold so much for a time they(ard boys) arent bad plus their models look cool af, I like them better than normal IJ.
>>94806576very good, nicely done. the matching warpaint is a cool look
>>94806586Yeah, depending on if Zoggrok gets the ability to take a sub commander in the battlescroll, I might drop the megaboss and brutes for wrekkaz (for tactics) and a hit squad of ragerz.Need some good counter charge pieces, especially since the AoR spell lore has 3d6 charge on a 7+
>>94805994It’s a big investment to give up a whole regiment slot for one model, but because they gain the keyword for the monogod army you can give them enhancements which opens up a bunch of very interesting combos you can do, especially in tzeentch who otherwise don’t have an comparable melee hero.
>>94805582>>94805738Added some more layers and it look better imo. I think I will first have to do basic colors on him than add chaimail cuz there is no way in hell I have chance to prime/paint under it.
Trying to kitbash, convert, or even just flairing up fyre slayers seems to be really unrewarding. This kinda applies to dwarves in general but it’s a bit more of a problem here.
>>94807011I've seen ice and forest theamed ones that looked great
>>94807011Have you tried something already?
>>94807011They're so bare as sculpts. Everyone is naked and looks similar to each other. Almost all of the troops feel like they were the designer's first CAD jobs. Even the heroes are mostly quite boring and look alike. The Magmadroth is cool and the Warcry box actually has some interesting sculpts. But Fyreslayers as a whole desperately need more units and/or revamping the current range altogether Stormcast style. I bet it is one of the worst selling Sigmar armies.
>>94806994Hear me out, crazy idea. I feel like having the chainmail as a sort of scarf wrapping around the front might work. But I feel like it'd need a plate chestpiece or something and that defeats the purpose. Still looks cool though anon.
>>94804722this is one example and ALSO is one of the easiest ones to "swap out" (they still sold the old ones for a while, they just came out with newer ones recently) because theyre just fuckin resin alternate heads
>>94807460Not rly that crazy, but I might just do smaller piece over his back and front legs simmilar how I did my first one with some jewlery chain and shield.Im gonna fry fit few thing out before any painting.
>>94807534>>94806994Where do you get the chains and stuff from
>>94807534Ooooo nice, how hard are these to paint btw? I got a fully assembled one just kinda hanging around my hobby space and for whatever reason i just haven't gotten around to him
What's your favorite single man sized model from your favorite faction? I'm looking at picking up some characters to practice doing more detailed work.
>>94807687I assume you only mean heroes? I have a soft spot for Soul Wars version of Spirit Torment, regular is meh
>>94804752Half-Aelves and Half-ogors are both canon things with neither defining what the other half is or can be in the places they appear. We've seen duardin/khainite relationships and human/aelf ones, though
>>94807687That little guy
>>94807687the humble Stabba
>>94807787Hands bigger than their head
>>94807687One of the first dudes I painted, I got a soft spot for the loonboss (even if I don't have a gloomspite army) Also if you're looking for a variety look into underworlds models.
>>94807011I've seen some icey paintjobs that're fun and people love doing root kings shit with them that've looked pretty solid. Mostly you can just interchange them with bits from any other dwarves though, it's all in scale enough that you can slap disposessed pauldrons, weapons and heads onto hearthguard. Same is true the other way around, unhelmeted kharadron using fyreslayer or ironbreaker heads look solid or cutting out parts of guns and using the magmapikes etc
Say something nice about this booty-scratcher
>>94807687Rat with a Gyatt
Anybody happen to know any perfectly legitimate places I might have a read of the Ravaged Coast book? I want to know if it's worth putting in the effort to make a narrative campaign before I buy. Especially since not sure how much fun it is to buff up a fragile Skaven hero.
>>94807687Gobbapalooza are all phenomenal.Get them for a varied and extremely fun painting project
>>94808023The way it attaches isn't what I would've done, but I think it's the exact kind of warhammer goofy that's great and I think it's the perfect representation of CoS' metropolitan mutli-species alliance that I hope we get more examples of.
>>94808023Best CoS model. I don't care what people say, I dislike Tahlia's model because it looks like a bitch to transport/play.
Does no one run SoB with many man crusher gargants? Doesn't it seem more fun than just 3-4 big ones?I've considered it myself but I'm not sure if there's a reason or if people just want to have as few models as possible since that might be why they picked SoB.The static leg pose being clone bothers me with the big ones and the little ones are much easier to modify with greenstuff for posing
What're some good kitbashes/conversions for endless spells? They seem so easy to make your own versions of, and they're so constantly out of stock i have to imagine others have done it just to have the models they need
>>94808595google Endless Spell conversion or Endless Spell proxy and you will see a ton of example
>>94808573If I was going to run SOB, I'd want some "little" giants running around. But that's probably why I'm not the kind of person collecting SOB. I'm pretty sure they're also considerably weaker, and you have no points to waste in that list.
>>94808023The ogre looks real solid, I just had to convert the stupid bucket to something better. Now he's holding an umbrella and is strapped onto a chair.
>>94808573Theres also man crusher gargants being old and ugly
>>94807011worst looking army GW makes. theres no redeeming them
>>94806994Post the results when you are done, if it looks good I'm ripping off your idea
>>94808298Why did they sabotage this model by giving him the only ugly-goofy gas mask in the skryre range
>>94808947they look OK if you don't do garbage GW paint jobs and actually try a little bit.
>>94803843How big is the model?
>>94809423My base size autism tells me that's a 40mm.
So fyreslayers are supposed to be inspired by…Norse mythology right? Before seeing the runes I initially thought they were supposed to be inspired by Vulcan/ Hephaestus, but I’m guessing sutr is what gw was going for there? There any lore that clarifies them?
Anyone have the new Slaves to Darkness tome pdf?
>>94809484>So fyreslayers are supposed to be inspired by…Slayers from WHFB. That's it. Slayers cranked up to 11 with fire as their theme because fiery orange hair of traditional slayers. Then slapped with more fire adjacent stuff, in this case salamanders.
>>94804670It's a Sororitas cherub, go look at the ones their centerpiece models come with it's an exact match. My guess is it's a Sisters Kill Team.
>>94808947Stop samefagging
>>94809423I agree with that other anon it looks like a 40
Is there a chart of what belongs to wfb in the soulblight range
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/vnudob8k/neave-and-the-blacktalons-become-the-first-age-of-sigmar-characters-to-get-the-joytoy-treatment/Oh boy, bigger way more expensive SC models
>>94810000Don’t they have more marines to produce
>>94810000Sick as hell and will be an instant pre-order from me but I'm keeping my expectations extremely low. Joytoy is really picky about what sells well in China and I don't think AoS is big at all in China vs the rabid Chinese love of marine slop. They dumped every Xeno line after 1 wave due to that. I'm honestly guessing GW forced them to put these out like they did with the Tyranids.
>>94809423He's a wight king, so should be wight king sized
>>94809484I alway got a lot more of a Sparta vibe from them
>>94809913Grave guard, corpse cart, wight king, necromancer, black knights and the big centerpiece kits are the only things made in End Times or sooner.We know black knights are about to be replaced, grave guard likely too. Wight and necro have multiple alt sculpts + CC heroes.
>>94810000Give me the Soulrender, you bastards!
>>94807536Some cheap metal chain I got from my missus.>>94807539Tbh I took me a while but I had fun doing it. My tip would be prime their belly black before you put any other primer/color because it is imposible to get it all painted when you have it glued on base.I did mine white and there are few places where I can still see it but it isnt that much of issue.
>>94808023Jesus Christ this model is soo fucking stupid.
>>94809270No not rly.
>>94808023Most soulful part of the CoS releas
>>94810000honestly pretty good considering you can replace their ugly mugs with the helmets, idoneth girl is hot too. will consume in hopes we also get lizardmen and chorfs one day
>>94810101it has a thing to hold it up on the sidebut most stormcast weapons are nonsensical, better not to dwell on them too much
>>94810110stuff like a kroxigor would also be cool to have to convert a seraphon giant as an actual miniature.same for ossiarch stuff.
>>94810129Oh yeah GW fucking love their side-grips
>>94810000the crane to tree branche look really weird
How do we make warhammer less racist?
>>94810000Literal who named characters So sick of these guys and the IDK character is just stupid. IDK shouldn't even be in Order
>>94810400Age of sigmar pretty much isn't40k and tow its much harder since that's baked into their lore
>>94810429If they're literal whos how is it different from just generics?
>>94810449They're a forced attempt at a superhero team
>>94810429They're not literal who's, they have an entire novel about them
>>94810000might get the old dude. Here's hoping we get a soulblight character or some chaos stuff.
>>94810400We kill all races but one, so noone can be racist anymore after that.
>>94810429IDK fits order about as well as DoK. Really most of the order factions are pretty mercenary and cut-throat towards their supposed allies.
>>94810429>elves shouldn't even be in Ordercorrectbut then again collaborations between different grand alliances should be more common with all the mercenaries and situations that create alliances of convenience
>>94809484They’re Greek monks
>>94808984Sure I would make me happy. Also check out this conversion of Regent. Im doing something very similar.
>>94810129Dear Lord have mercy and end this already.
>>94810400kys, It was not existing problem before tourist like U
>>94810316Side grips and drum mags are peak
>>94810510Do we rly need SCE to represent Anterior Pelvic Tilt community or coomers cant draw?
>>94810637the lines you drew are bafflingly inaccurate, and you are a strange man for drawing them.
Why are GW so desperate to make Neave Blacktalon a thing?
>>94810510Do you know anyone who's read it? Or even knows a rough plot summary of it?
why does 4chan have such a crusade against named characters and their backstories?
how hard is it to remove the dragonskull from the megaboss model?
>>94810775GW is floundering around desperately trying to create another "pantheon of Primarchs" to try to exploit the same way they do in 30k but they have no idea how to do it narratively or whether it should be done at the level of gods or just immortal heroes
>>94810788It's directly opposed to the mechanics and ideas of <your dudes> and will inevitably lead to a culling of character customization options just like they did in their other games when named characters don't have generic equivalents
>>94810787A lot of people read and liked neave's original novel, and she had a solo model for years before she got a whole show + novel + metanarrative prominence with her girlfriend and new squad of freaks. She's obviously a character being marketed to you, in the same way most prominent named characters with models are, but it's not like she appeared out of nowhere
>>94810800you'd have to resculpt the pauldron or cover it with something else might as well start from one of the alternative megaboss sculpts if you can find them
>>94810801the black talons are not another primarch situation. its closer to like gaunts ghosts or something where you have a small cast of side characters and a central named character they all relate to of moderate rankprimarch level shit is like nagash, morathi, allarielle, katakross, ushoran. if you want to go around saying they're trying to recreate the primarch pantheon, that's who you should point to, not some knight zephyros (basically a lieutenant rank, not even a lord) and her entourage
>>94810812Skill issue if you can't kitbash or convert them into your dudes, never understood the type of autism that allows /yourdude/ to have a unique name and a cool spear instead of a sword, but not to be a different name from the one on the warscroll
>>94810812okay, so lets say there are no named characters.not a onewhat do you use to tell your stories? when you are writing a battletome or want to put out a factions black library book, who do you center the story around? who do you use to frame the narrative of an army and give the world some identity? does the story revolve around some freeguild marshal or unnamed knight questor, who's name and heraldry shall not be mentioned such that it does not impinge upon this random anons desire to have a homebrew group of models, because if there is even one named character or known subfaction he loses all ability to create his own narrative and fiction within the setting?or are you mad because you cant spend 5 points on a great weapon?
>>94810801Isn't that what characters like Gotrek and Grombrindal are though? Primarchs whole thing is that they're characters that people got to know through a prequel series (or rather youtubers talking about a prequel series) that are slowly returning in with strange new powers. Granted no-one's really getting excited for the characters in Old World but I'd have thought they could just get characters people like in Total War to bring back in AoSified ways. We've already got Gotrek, Eltharion, etc. you'd think they'd just be picking the most popular characters from that to bring back if they wanted to do that.
>>94810826It's the same kind of shit as the saviours of cinderfall and whatever gunnar brand's squad are called, it's fine, it's taking preexisting guys and giving them a warband squad alongside some more narrative presence. I think really the blacktalons are the ones that do it best, though, because they're just a ttrpg party who go off and do shit together, unlike Callis & Toll + bland nobodies who have no reason to follow them outside the city or gunnar's family + some people that're his enemies most of the time except when there's a bigger threat to their home. The other squads get fucked over by it because now whenever they're in campaign books they have to bring along the dead weight that doesn't make sense to be there, and any novels about them have to include their bland hangers on as part of the now bloated ensemble cast. Stings harder for callis and toll, who already had a preestablished collection of weird allies that mostly filled the same archetypes while being infinitely more fun.
>>94810825yeah i saw that guy but he looks.....small? like he barely fills up half that base. the regular megaboss at least takes up a healthy portion and doesnt look out of place on his base.to be frank i actually dont particularly like either of them. the second guy is in a proper commanding pose but he has the size issuethe first guy looks like he's ducking under enemy fire in a squatty come get me pose that might be okay for a brute but it doesnt look very heroic or in charge and he doesnt even have a bosspole. even the brutes kit gives you several choices of bosspole for the squad leader, gordrakk/mawkrusha boss has a bosspole. its so weird that the megaboss on foot doesnt have one. idk, they're minor issues but when it comes to spending $45 on a single foot hero, its enough to put me off my appetite for them. i might just find a conversion for one.
>>94810000Honestly.....does anybody even care about these characters as much as someone at GW seems to think so?Shit ton of effort to this group for some bloody reason... minis, new novels, shows up in big narratives, gets costly animation series made about them ... and now this? Neave as a character is and has always been generic and bland as shit. The rest of the grup of nobodies arent much better either except maybe the idoneth and even then shes the typical GW "ooo look at this mysterious elf character number 235... but we cant tell anything about this one to u because wooo elves so enigmatic" character. Unbelievable.
>>94810872i havent read the callis and toll books but i watched the cartoon. they seem like they're trying to do a buddy cop "day in the life of a city of sigmar" kind of thing. it was okay, went a little overboard with the teeth gnashing hatred of each other but it was interesting to see the soulblight actually inhabit crypts and sewers underneath the cities and try to infiltrate them.
>>94810884i like the guy with the bullhorns on his armor
>>94810000>hire someone who actually knows how to sculpt faces and the stormcast suddenly look goodGW needs to train its people how to do that
>>94810841nta, but the people asking to not have special characters aren't arguing against the use of names in general, or even of occasionally recurring or important characters in the background either; the problems start coming from special characters with their own miniature (which hogs a spot for what could have been used for a miniature of a more novel or needed role) and their own rules (which sometimes have the entire army get rewritten around), that end up recurring so much to make the world feel smaller and smaller and that can't ever truly get removed out of the scene because gw has a miniature of them to sell.some anons' point of view is extreme about it, since after all most if not all the stormcast special characters we are seeing now were perfectly generic throwaway names for generic background characters in the first edition that grew more or less organically.But it is important to not restrict narratives exclusively to the special characters once we have a cast of them, or we make the world and everyone else feel smaller as a result.
>>94810893The hammer and bolter episode is bizarre because it characterizes them nothing like their book counterparts, even in the newest novel not written by horth, and also decided that along with Callis' redesign to make him a bulky black guy with dreads they should also make him a quick to anger and violent black guy as well. Just deciding to make the character a racist caricature for only that animation and nothing else. You're right that the setup is fun, though, and i think that's a role they naturally work in even if the actual books all tend to be more adventuring witch hunter stories
>>94810907Those things are like 10 times bigger. Easier to do details at that scale
>>94810582They did a good job painting it but it's too passive for my liking
>>94810788> fluffI mean 'they are badly written' can be applied to literally e ery word ever put to page about anything concerning warhammer so that's not fair. I'll give the fluff a pass> the rulesSkewering them to be so necessary in our army constructs list building (which is already constructive and shit) and leads to samey, boring as fuck games were 99% of the time the game is decided at list building. I don't want to constantly think 'by not taking Katakross/Belthanos/mannfred/belakor/kroak(not so much start of 4th probably a thing now)/Karazai/Callis and Toll/etc I am actively making a worse decision.' >>94810841Stupid take. I didn't say get rid of them and that's a retarded zero sum solution. For my issues in particular stick them in narrative only, or point then all at 1001, at least, (and increase their power to match). There you can take them - just not competitively speaking. Still 100% able to play them and sell the model.
>>94811012i've worked with cad and print, its not that hard to get good looking models and details, even at 28mm scale. you dont get in trouble until you start reaching like 12mm scale. and i know for a fact GW is using zbrush and printing to produce their masters. its either a lack of technique from the artists, a directional choice from a design lead, or some combination of the two, but the size/scale that GW normally works at is not a limiting factor on getting good looking faces
>>94811070i've been running my seraphon without kroak and doing just fine. in fact he feels the least mandatory he ever has. you need to stop getting all your opinions from the honest wargamer and just go play some actual games. there's only 2 named characters in the whole game i would consider mandatory and thats because half of their armies rules are on their warscrolls. ushoran and allariele. everybody else is optional
>>94800796>TqGitz & TroggsFor troggs to be in the same ballpark as other monstrous infantry, they would need to lose...1 Health1 OCTheir throwing attackOne of their rend would be turned into anti infantryThe healing would be just their hero phaseLose either the ward or the recursionGain an attack
>>94810841Write an original fucking character for the story? Callis and Toll had like 5 books before getting models, and noone bats an eye
>>94810023What tells you that thtas a wight king? Hes a ghost, not a skeleton
>>94811180>Hes a ghostHe's a wight, and he's a king, for the soulblight armyHe's a wight king
>>94811145i actually genuinely am curious how exactly troggs win. its an entire army that walks on the ground 6" at a time and all they do is melee. this seems like the easiest army in the world to just block in, screen or outmaneuver. is it just because they're playing to a meta where everyone has gone all in on hammers and forgotten the fundamentals of screening, jamming, and board control in favor of like belakor and 6 varanguard or what? this seems like an army that would be absolutely terrible at missions, easy to predict and screen, speed bump, you could fight them at your leisure
Eavy Metal style also doesn't work well for especially female faces, bunch of female characters painted by Eavy Metal have weird faces but then you see same minis at Golden Demon and the faces look much better. Though it is also partially a sculpting issue, they have definitely made bunch of bad looking female faces especially.
>>94810510IMO Neave Blacktalon doesn't feel like a character that you pick up and make your own stories with her in the setting and games. Its not like many other named characters feel any better either, but she takes it to the next level. She feels more like a character of some individual GW employee who reeaally wants to push his/her best of the best OC at everyone's face, whether they want it or not.
I have DoK half of Arena of Shades box to sell.-High Gladiatrix x1-Sisters of Slaughter x10-Kinerai Heartrenders x5-Doomfire Warlocks x5Thinking $120 as bundle, is that overpriced or underpriced? I don't know much about DoK (or even selling goods if I'm honest)
Speaking of named characters. Now’s your chance.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hwb2kldr/black-library-open-submission-2025-write-your-two-favourite-characters-into-a-scene/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hwb2kldr/black-library-open-submission-2025-write-your-two-favourite-characters-into-a-scene/>p-please provide some fluff for our game because so far we've failed to
>>94810812>and will inevitably lead to a culling of character customization optionsnot reallyThat happens, but it's not *because* of named characters.
>>94811315>>94811328Can Kragnos beat Archaon, canonwise?
>>94811359Kragnos needs to kill Dhorgar in a fit of autistic rage thinking he’s a Draconith to justify a new Archaon model.
>>94811235They're mega efficient for EHP and hit hard. They're both anvil and hammer.The lists that do well aren't just spamming Troggs, they're mixing in squigs and squiggs compliment them well. Gitz units are mega cheap in general they can afford throw away objective scorers. Rockguts absolutely are an elite unit but they're nowhere near that pricing.Some armies don't have ranged tools to whittle down troggs before fighting them or leave them with just one model. Or enough burst to reliably remove them off the table.Screening isn't as big of a factor with power through (also a huge benefit of 5 health), and actually a detriment depending on battle tactics. They're not very common either when the game encourages reinforcing and spamming hammers.6 inches is not really slow when you can shove them on the deploy line guilt free and many missions are split from the center. With healing and recursion there's not much need to alpha people.The armies they do well against are ones that have shitty combat units and can't burst through their healing:https://woehammer.com/2024/11/20/faction-stats-gloomspite-gitz-nov-24/
>>94811328Black Library does open submissions every year, my man. A lot of their short stories are basically auditions from new people trying to worm their way in.
>>94811359Noone can kill Archaon canonwise
>>94811180Because he's in Soulblight, not Nighthaunt. And he's a king
>>94811116I have not played StD that doesn't have either Arachon or Belakor. I have never seen an OBR list without Katakross, Arkhan, or Nagash. There has never been an edition of Sylvaneth were one or more special characters weren't essentially mandatory or you were playing down. Gits since they got their book always run Skargrott or Trugg.> le honest wargamerHe doesn't see special characters as a problem. Or rather, he selectively picks out certain ones HE doesn't like and the rest get a pass or are simply accepted as 'part of the play experience' or whatever. Not that he even matters anymore, he has checked out of 4th, he doesn't even do the stats regularly. Frankly only the most cucked of content creators really still give a shit about 4.0 after how shit the last two books are (first two always get a pass, but StD and Warclans were so lazy even the content cucks could barely suck GWs knob for more than an hour).
>>94811359potentially, kragnos is immune to divination and most sorceries and half of the strength of archaon as a character is the eye of sheeran giving him clairvoyance the other half is massive armies and impressive power, but still, in a direct 1vs1 kragnos has a chance
>>94811451Kragnos got fought to a standstill by Gordrakk and his slightly nastier than usual mawcrusha.Archaon would fucking rape Kragnos in a fight. The Sword of Kings would gobble him up
>>94810582Ohhhh you're ghoul anon, okay. Lookin good btw.
>>94811370Doesn't he hate all vaguely dragon like things anyway? I doubt he'd care much that Dhorgar's not technically a dragon.
>>94810510Who?
Skaven players please tell me how to easily and quickly paint wood texturesI have a bunch of Warcry mining terrain that I need to paint up but I've never done wood before
>>94811538that's plot armour talking and the antimagic shield counters the magical sword
>>94811660Just slapchop that shit, terrain is the perfect use case for speed painting workflows.Prime white or zenithal, slather on a dark brown contrast-like e.g. AP Dark Wood, then heavy dry brush medium brown and light dry brush bone.
>>94808686The hardest part for me is the awkward bases sizes some have. What do you even do about those?
Have you guys ever been kicked out of a game for dumb reasons? I was trying to play a game of AoS and then I get booted because they don't like my dice. This is such a load of shit.
>>94811815Your dice being?
>>94811815squig dice
>>94811538>standstillHe kicked Gordrakk's ass, beat his dragon near death and stole his WAAAGH. That's not a standstill, that's marcy
>>94811845Kragnos was beaten by Karazai
>>94811819Just my usual sets, I don't see the issue.
>>94811851no, he wasn't, the dragon brothers cannot confront kragnos directly, they only bait him or try to trap him
>>94811328>>94811315This seems like a lot of narrative power to offer fanfiction writers. GW is usually super protective of the branded characters. I assume these are going to end up in some curated anthology novels or something?Is that what happened with the prompt from last year?
>>94811667pretty much yeahArchaon should get his face caved in by Sigmar or dusted by Nagash, but usually plot armor kicks in (sigmar lost his hammer, Nagash was depleted before Archaon fought him). I'm sure Kragnos would feel sick that morning or something if he fought Archaon.For all the mortal realm gods, in terms of raw power, Nagash or Sigmar is probably king now, especially after Nagash has the nadir. But we all know Nagash will never be allowed to win.
>>94810812>>94810841im gonna lay it out for you:1. Long ago when you spergs were still in the nutsack we use to ask our oponent before battle if it is OK to bring special character to regular battle and if he or you said no It was expected to have another list without one. Nowdays you cant expect that level of courtesy.2.Special characters are for NARRATIVE GAMES, for grand campains not for casual game/tournament. They dont make fucking sense otherwise. Your dude IS not anyone special in the warhammer world he might be special for you but Nagash/Sigmar dont know his fucking name and he wont move his ass to your corrner of the world each time you ask. And no you buying overpriced powergaming piece off plastic dont give you right to fuck things up for others.3. Last time I managed to get whole weeknd for gaming I had to play with 3 diferent dudes with Arkhan and 40 skeletons, Olynder, Alariele, Teclis and 2 Belakors and their list were the same fucking thing any other retards is using. Only one IJ player was kind enough to have orginal thought and make his own fucking list with things he liked and not some internet fuck told him to bring.4. It takes away from armies because GW want you to buy overpriced plastic and they not gonna make it subpar. I had cool rule called 'Courts of Delusion" for 3 fucking months in 3rd before those greedy fucks rolled it under Ushoran. It take away from my and my oponent enjoyment when each game look the same. Most of the armies in the game should have those special rules build in to faction anyway but "how do we sell that overpriced hero if it isnt OP?"5. If you rly want some special characters they should explore niche in your army you cant otherwise make room for in normal rulesetHorticulus Slimux was good example where he could plant nurgle tree each turn, was it great? fuck no but it was cool to bring my converted gnarlmaws and make board in to Garden of Nurgle.
>>94811983nta, but #1 is kinda bullshit because some armies are fuck useless without a key piece. Katakros has been a crutch for OBR for the longest time. I would not blame players for bringing special characters, especially when indexes suck at balance.Just because we bring them doesn't mean we enjoy it. In an ideal world every army would be balanced without them, and they would just open up alternative builds or something, or there would be a generic build for all of them, with the most expensive hero being 300 points.
>>94811880I heard squig dice were fucked up and they showed some numbers way more than others.
>>94811983I agree with you largely but a lot of the problems that people have with "named characters" are actually problems with faction leaders and they throw the baby out with the bathwater when they talk about the formerI groan just as hard as anyone else when someone rolls up with Archaon or Morathi but I don't have a problem with some dude really liking, say, Skulltaker and using him
Named characters are ok but should be confined to their AoR. Especially those that have warmaster. That way they don't warp their faction's powerlevel around one warscroll.
>>94811983>4. It takes away from armies because GW want you to buy overpriced plastic and they not gonna make it subpar. I had cool rule called 'Courts of Delusion" for 3 fucking months in 3rd before those greedy fucks rolled it under Ushoran.I still find it so funny (read: irksome) how they removed Death Frenzy from Grey Seers and Verminlord Warbringers just to give it to Vizzik and then hype him up by pretending that Death Frenzy was some new, never-before-seen ability that would shake up Skaven forever.
>>94812000>nta, but #1 is kinda bullshit because some armies are fuck useless without a key pieceNot my problem that you didnt noticed that your shitty army dont work without £74 tax. Rly funny how tax colecting army make retards pay to play. Be responsible adult and dont pay corpo for shit product.
>>94812055???What is this argumentation? Where do we draw the line? Where would the difference be in buying one big centre piece or two more infantry kits? Where does it become corpo shit? It´s all the same product, bro.
>>94812007There are ofc some specials that dont break the game, I dont see people complaining about nurgle heralds like scribe or piper. Thinking about it now I dont see people complaining about demons in general.>>94812033new and improved yes-yes, more warpstone tokes pls
>>94812079Sniff stronger glue, it will help you cope with £74 tax.
>>94812110You keep calling it a tax, i look at cool model that does cool shit most of the time. Half of GW´s thoughts are about selling you stuff, doesnt really matter if its two more infantry kits or centrepieces.Stay cynical and mad.
>>94812087>I dont see people complaining about nurgle heralds like scribe or piper.those are generic
>>94811983>2.Special characters are for NARRATIVE GAMES, for grand campains not for casual game/tournament.No, they were for such. That has very obviously changed. Can't say I find it a change for the better, but pretending it's still the case is just dishonest.
>haven’t followed Underworlds in awhile>fell off painting the models when they jacked up the prices and the local group here died off>see the new GSG band>cards no longer have soulful art and it’s just shitty pictures of the studio modelsholy fuck just let the game die already
>>94812439Nah see, they had to make this new edition that's completely different and plays no way like 1st edition. It's basically it's own game and is 100% justified change wise. Just trust me bro, GW swears.
>>94811266The MSRP prices for those are $37$62.50$62.50$irrelevant because nobody fucking wants Doomfire Warlocks and they're in every discount box anywaySo MSRP for that stuff, brand new, in box, is 162 dollars. Your 120 bucks is a 25% discount. Which isn't anything to sneeze at, but not a crazy bargain. BTW, Iin my experience the buy/sell/trade group on Facebook is a pretty decent place to sell stuff. I'd say throw it up there at 120, but be willing to accept 100 if someone offers it
>>94811880I have those Idoneth dice, and I use them every single game.No one likes my faction, so it feels fitting that I use dice that everyone hates as well. I don't care, just hand over your soul so I can animate my thralls.
>>94811315>>94811328what matchup in what location should I wriite, bros?
>>94812692Grashrack fighting Hedrakka
>>94812692I'm tempted to have the eater of tomes and lord kroak shittalk one another telepathically after the events of broken realms
>>94811971Sigmar lost his hammer because feared facing Archaon in a duel since it's stated that Archaon is stronger.Archaon and Nagash didn't fight once. They dueled numerous times and each time Nagash lost.
>>94811971After the World That Was ended, Archaon fucked around and conquered multiple universes. He's really strong
>>94812306You are right, always though they had unique keyword like Horticulus.>>94812692FEC + anything you like.
>>94813017FEC v FEC, but they're clear headed enough to see the opposite side as ghouls.Imagine.
>>94813017>>94813067the story has to be about named characters with models. If you're doing FEC on FEC your only options are Ushoran and the Underworlds guys>they're clear headed enough to see the opposite side as ghouls.I think the more interesting idea is that they're both full delusional, but because they're from different groups they have conflicting delusions
I fucking hate Ghur.
>>94811315Had the idea of writing a story where a dude is possessed by a night haunt in the middle of an expedition in the realm of life. It mostly goes into erotic lit though.
>>94813147The bat mutant design is too cool to be stuck in fucking Underworlds
>>94813218The rules say it has to be about two named characters meeting, it specifically says it doesn't have to be a fight. A sex scene would absolutely fit the requirements.
>>94813228Im gonna write about Gordrakk raping Gobsprakk forbeing an ugly sneaky git
>>94813248I doubt GW will go for it, but if you post it here I'll probably jerk off to it.
>>94811880Cancer anon... I kneel
>>94811983Based and correct opinion.>>94812000> I don't blame OBR players for using Katakross he has been necessary from the beginningNo that's shit and it's zero excuse (I'm an OBR player). The army should need one broken model to work. Knock the character down and raise the army up (also just point katakross out of the game).> we don't enjoy it!!But you do it anyway you fucking waacfag.
>>94813226it'll probably get a unit eventually. the previous underworlds band was basically a prototype for cryptguard
>>94812994A divine weapon is a divine weapon, Sigmar didn't fear fighting archaon, he feared gambling a fight against him without a weapon in hand that could stand up to slayer of kings. He punched the fuck out of him after the old world blew up.What are all the times he fought Nagash?
>>94812000>Katakros has been a crutch for OBR for the longest timei actually wonder if katakros is even still good or if he is an apocryphal pic everyone takes just because they've always taken him. hes a 4" move terrain piece that gives a couple units all out defense for 500 points. he doesnt even heal anybody anymore.
>>94811983> #4The thing is I really can't recall an incidence, besides fucking Kragnos, when people didn't just want to buy the Centerpiece model even if it wasn't useful. Who didn't want to buy Alarielle, Drycha, Archaon, Nagash, Belakor, Belthanos, Morathi, Trugg, etc? It's like Space Marine players not buying their primarch. And if they want to sell multiple, you make it a dual kit (Gordrakk, Gobsprakk come to mind).
>>94813361His huge base combined with increased aura range, as well as his '3 units get +1 save' BS and the fact his regiment can take anything means he always sees play. His possible CP stealing and 'meh' combat ability are icing on the cake.
>>94813371eh, color me unimpressed. he lost too much from his previous incarnations to be worth the 500 point price tag anymore. i dont think he's a crutch anymore i think he's a ball and chain
Why are the saurus guard still in the game when saurus warriors all but updated their sculpts? You need another data sheet of infantry?
>>94813413saurus warriors=objective holding standard infantry bricksaurus guard=elite slann bodyguards to keep your frog alivedifferent roles. also its very likely and possibly rumor engined that saurus guard are getting updated alongside skinks in another seraphon wave this edition
>>94813413>>94813423They also might have lots of old stock they still want to sell
>>94813226>>94813345If not Im gonna spread leafets to muslim population in Nottingham about GW staff making very haram figurines of Allah.Your move James.
>>94813441im sure they could always just repackage the old stock and sell to the old world crowd
>>94810400Chocolate elves with wide hips made for breeding
anyone have the maggotkin of nurgle pdf they'd like to share? thanks
>>94813361He fixes the retarded battle trait being so limited. If you rely off regular heroes, realistically only one or two things are going to get coverage, and the units are less than average with their base stats, even with the aura it barely puts most of them on level with other factions that roll out the gate with those stats. Kavalos and morghast are the two units that only feel like they pull their weight, everything else is weirdly understatted. Stalkers with 1 damage, mortek have no rend, immortis guard are not pointed or statted for big blocks.Nagash has a smaller army and a huge base so not as bad.Why the autonomous elite army needs auras makes no fucking sense.
>>94809493>new Slaves to Darkness tomegofile dot io/d/bNUrfd
>>94813650> Why the autonomous elite army needs auras makes no fucking sense.I mean they’re not autonomous, they’re incredibly ordered, regimented, and autistic. Made by an even bigger autist
>>94813568>maggotkin of nurgle pdfwe don't have one for 4E, you can find free rules for maggotkin on warcom, you can find 3E battletome here.files<dot>catbox<dot>moe slash 56mz8b<dot>pdf
Why does slaanesh still have hellstriders
>>94813914Because they won't remove demon models (yet)
>>94813848They are though, maybe not mortek guard but there's been examples of obr having their own motivations and going against orders. It's a plot line for crematorium and ivory host.From an independence point of view, one of the big features of obr when they came out was that they had hekatos that provided coverage for wards inside their mortek units that other death factions needed a hero for.
>>94813914They aren't in The of World
>>94813914ask whoever removed the chaos altar
Is Kataky doing anything or is he still getting spawncamped
>>94813914iirc they were a pretty important unit in 2e armies.If I didn't know better, I'd think GW knew that long time Hedonite players would have a bunch of Hellstriders, so they were giving that unit a long tail to let people keep using them as they gradually built up their collection of the newer, better kits.But I do know better, so my best guess is GW just forgot they exist.
>>94813989last time we heard about him he got news that rats were going to make shit hit the fan and sent a message to all ossiarch generals to stop what they were doing and entrench for the coming ratwave
>>94813989He gets visions of his home town, but doesn't realy know what to do with that shizo information
>>94814071>so they were giving that unit a long tail to let people keep using themThers literally a 1 to 1 replacement of "Mortal on daemonic penis worm with melee weapons"
>>94814216different base size tho
>>94814224Gw doesnt give a shit about the consistency of that tho
>>94814237wait, no, that's it. If they released the new Seekers and were like, "yeah this is the new Helstrider kit" then a lot of people with existing armies wouldn't buy them because they already had Helstriders. But by releasing them as a whole new unit, existing players would have to buy them to run them.Then in a few years they can squat Helstriders and tell people they can just run them as Seekers, but by then everybody will have bought the new Seekers
>>94814260Now that one does make sense, i could absolutely see them doing this
do you ever feel bad for winning games? I tabled a dude and it overall felt worse than ganes I've lost.
>>94814348Only if it's because of fucked GW balance or the other player is a beginner.
Jerrion's Delegation or Spearhead to go alongside with Charnelgrand Jury? Does it even matter that much? I think I need basic canon fodder so the ghouls in the Delegation would make sense?
>>94814365Can you even find jerrion's anywhere?I got lucky and found it in store about a year ago now.
>>94814348Only after winning the prio roll after they botched rolls or I rolled hot the previous round. Or if they’re starting to get visibly upset.
>>94814370My local store has one and I know at least one webstore in my country that has a copy. I live in a pretty market so some stuff doesn't move as fast as I imagine it does in the UK, Burgerland etc.
>>94814359>fucked GW balance Yeah probably. I had a unit of reinforced Khorne chosen, which do an absurd amount of damage. Slapping on an extra attack per model forever for free because I decided they're Khorne seems overtuned. It must be an enormous increase in damage potential for zero point increase.
>>94814393Id get it just for the value desu. 27 models, you can run the ghouls as crypt guard without issue, they make for fun kitbashing since the models are so old, and the bigger guys are useful.The spearhead's gonna be around for a while, so no point in rushing for it.
>>94814071its actually pretty weird to me that after introducing the blissbard and slickblades they actually kept the hellstridersGW is rarely so forgiving about letting old models stay when a clear and obvious replacement is introduced *cough cough spiders your time is up cough cough wolfs with venomous fangs cough cough*
>>94814365spearhead is definitely more meta.plus you can find ghouls and crypt horrors for very cheap elsewherehttps://thetrolltrader.com/search?q=crypt+ghouls
>>94814470I feel like that breeds more animosity in the end. Like stringing people along before actually squatting them. Saurus knights getting axed for aggradons was quick and offered no alternative for the now defunct knights except maybe as raptadon proxies. But no one really laments the knights because, I mean, look at those sculpts.
>>94814496they didnt even look good when they were new, the dark elfs had cold ones come out at pretty much the exact same time that look 100x better and arguably still give the new aggradons a run for their money visually
>>94812635Thx, bro. I thought I heard about Doomfire Warlocks being shit but didn't realize it was quite to that level.
So with there being no transports can hordes actually be the front line? I mean cavalry and centerpieces will still get there first.
>>94814519The problem is that the entire idea of the army is sexy evil babes. Every character is a sexy evil babe. Every single unit is sexy evil babes. Except one. The damn Doomfire Warlocks. Which are just some fucked up dudes. They aren't what any Daughters of Khaine players wants their army to be
>>94814552I'm gonna be that guy and say I like the doomfires. It gives a wider glimpse into the insane matriarchal society of DoK. As a minor supporting unit that you might see in armies, I like them. They for sure need new models though.
>>94814536aos doesnt have transports, but it does have a lot of deepstriking and unlike 40k there is no 1st turn restriction on deepstriking, so things like runesmiters, soulscryers, and the unquiet dead kind of function like transports as far as getting from A to B goes. some armies even have ways to put guys back into deepstrike. there is also one army that actually has transports, but the transport capacity is so small and their infantry is so shit that its pretty much a non issue
>>94814586It would be OK if the models actually expressed that idea. If they were chained or had scars or the unit leader was a lady with a whip. If you could look at the model out of context and tell that these guys were slaves, then absolutely, great.But instead the main focus is the horses' incredibly fucked up mouths
>>94814637Looks like purebred British horses to me
I don't hink i ever saw this guy from the front like that. The hron effect is actually quite cool.Sort of like fake heads grenskins mount on themselves
>>94814470let's see those wolves run over walls
>>94814637Definitely feel like they tried to make the horses too kooky crazy and the kit suffered as a result. It'd be one thing if there were ghouls or cultists riding them, but it's kind of strange having elves on them
>>94814724There was quite a nice one with the Unmade from warcry
>>94814637They're not like the common slaves. They're basically shadow magic mutants. Morathi seemingly allows them a position higher than most male slaves but still brands them with runes of control secretly. But yeah the models are lacking.
>>94814365>Charnelgrand Jury+Jerrion's DelegationWill give you 2 reinforced horrors/flayers, block of dudes and 2 support foot heroes.You will need some other heroes here.>Spearhead +Charnelgrand JuryWill give u 1 reinforced morbegs plus 3, reinforced guard unit, reinforced horror/flayer plus Regent(one of better heroes almost must have), Vargulf(cool beatstick) and support hero.That one lone unit of morbegs spoils it for me but it has more usefull heroes.IMO hard to tell because all are usefull. Old horrors are great for conversions and /your/ dudes stuff on the other morbegs are fun to build if you dont mind forced whamen.
they wouldnt try and pull a killteam on warcry and make it super tournament focused right
Do you think SoB will get an army box alongside their tome?
Having read some fantasy intended for female audiences, I can tell you that if GW want more women playing warhammer then the best way to do that would be by bringing fimir back and making them the primary focus of the setting.
>>94814759Warcyr has always been the more casual, more narrative, more fun, better skirmish game compared to Kill Team's more competitive, crunchier, less fun, worse game. I don't think they're gonna change up that dynamic.Assuming they even do another edition of Warcry
>>94814771>fimirIt's been said, they're what Kruleboyz should have been
>>94814776im hoping the next edition of warcry goes fully mordheim on us (either way though the factions i like the most are all the ones waiting on a warcry band, Skaven, Gits, IDK and KO. Wish OBR and Sylvaneth warbands were different)
>>94814799ooh I just had a brainstorm. What if when Gitz finally get a Warcry warband, it's a unit of Troggoths like the guy from the Underworlds band?He doesn't look much bigger than a man, they could do a 6-8 of them in a band. Do it like the Gorgers where the different roles come from attributes, like one of them found a big stick to use as a club, one of them has a big mushroom on his head that occasionally gives him ideas, etc.
>>94814771fimir aren't the hot kind of rape monster though
>>94814767I don’t think they’ve ever gotten a bundle box in any iteration.
>>94814771>>94814781fimir look like dumb jim henson rejects in the worst way possible and literally the only reason anyone here ever talks about them is edgy teenager "hehe, rape" cringe.they were bad, niche models with like 2 kits, paper thin lore, and a shit aesthetic. kruleboyz run absolute circles around them in both personality and visual style, and i will not be convinced otherwise.fimiranons can eat shit and i cant believe we are still beating this dead horse 4 years later
>>94814843I just wish he had a nose
>>94814843frankly i was hoping for the warcry warband to be like what the new underworlds warband is like, but now thats not that likelyMaybe have like 10 gits with different stuff and a few like mini squigs or something like that
>>94814896That sucks, 40k Knights get them all the time
>>9481531140k knights only other kit isn't ugly as sin either, though. They have like 3 total kits to SoB's 2, I think.
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>>94814922We gonna beat that horse until you kys. Just do us a fav and post stream here.
>>94814519Doomfires were shit but are actually really good in 4th.>>94814552They're for the femdom self insert.>>94814586See above I don't mind them>>94814637Yeah the models suck and need a refresh
