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>>94810168
Don't look! It's for ilkhan's eyes only!
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>>94810168
Quick, someone please show me what happened to Aurigan Reach
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>>94810168
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>>94810196
They were retarded and they died, the end.
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Gas the clans.
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>>94810199
My favorite part is when they died, unironically
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HONOR THE DRAGON!!
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>>94810199
I still don't understand what the fuck was the point of canonizing them complete with a sourcebook only to have them be dead by 3028.
It's like CGL doesn't understand that vidya-generated interest is the only thing that's keeping BT alive at all.
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>>94810219
If new interest is only for house arano I hope BT fucking dies as soon as possible.
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Who's going to be the good soul to buy and share the book here?
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>>94810168

Way too early

The other thread is still on page 2
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>>94810168
>advertising
Cursed thread.
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>>94810233
Nice way to show you are a newfag

Since 2013 the right way to create a new thread is right after the other reach bump limit. Go lurk more and take a look in the archive
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>>94810219
They did not expect HBS to drop the ball so hard making integrating the game's plot impossible and HBS losing all interest in going forward with BT.
Even MW5 mercenary company is still out there in-universe, despite the game events themselves being not canon.
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>>94810219
Because the grogs would never shut up about it if they started retconning them in further down the timeline.
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>>94810254
Poor b8
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>>94810168
>IKEO available now

How available?
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>>94810168
>Advertising (all forms) is not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.
sent
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>>94810267
They never play past 3025, so who gives a shit what they think?
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>>94810276
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>>94810276
You realize that all of these threads are one big advertisement for Battletech, right?
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>>94810226
HBS BT has a whole cottage industry of mods and community content (most of it aimed at faithfully recreating the setting and rules of the full TT game) still thriving around it and is a natural gateway into the tabletop game, long after the studio that made it faded into oblivion.
Meanwhile you are a clueless angry retard with twittertrannies still living rent free in your head 10 years later and getting actually upset about mildly nonsensical events from the campaign when the rest of the setting is twice as retarded.
Do BT a favour and die already, and have your pewter garbage buried with you.
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>>94810219
Its to have them be "in" the main canon, but not have to write them throughout the eras
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>>94810283
It doesn't matter. They'll still complain fairly vocally. Besides, the grog nowadays is the forever 67 player
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>>94810262
"and then they turtled up for 125 years" isn't interesting but it's totally possible. A big messy collapse makes it weirder they aren't in the history books. Things only start getting off the wall during the DLCs, and all that stuff happens weeks from the nearest HPG.

The whole thing smacks of a decision made in the moment out of spite with no thought at all.
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>>94810302
>the grog nowadays is the forever 67 player
That used to be me but im a jihad player now

>always one step ahead
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>>94810298
This is enough effort that it almost doesn't feel like bait.
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>>94810168
>IKEO available now
Canopian genocide when?
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>>94810310
Hes not wrong though, RogueTech alone still has a small but consistent player base keeping it going
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>>94810168
The only time I'll ever root for Wolves is when they're fighting Capellans
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>>94810303
The whole developeemnt of that game post launch is a mystery. Mechs and portraits from the DLC where made and animated by different people than the main game. Artists hired to make mechs where already gone by then. The person who was lorekeeping the whole thing was gone before the game even launched.

Maybe one day we will know the whole story one day.
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>>94810313
House arano and everything related to it is retarded trash and a waste of writing, I have little against HBS BT beyond that.
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>>94810342
What bothers you about them? Be specific.
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>>94810276
> can't talk about new battletech book in battletech thread

Some of you woke up today and just decided to be retards, I swear
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>>94810353
Their head was a braindead bleeding heart and horrible leader that I was forced to assist in overthrowing the goverment that replaced her. In addition, she basically only wins because a supernaturally powerful mercenary company with a regiment of captured pirate king crabs and a super lostech dropship manifests and is bound to her will.
I do not appreciate their retroactive canonization.
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>>94810353
Their existence. That is specific enough. Nothing introduced past 1986 has ever been good.
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>>94810168
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>>94810396
lol
lmao, even
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>Phoenix Hawk IIC
>80 tonns
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Is the Centurion just a poor man’s Dragon?
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Hello /btg/, please tell me: Why has the writing for every major setting, battletech included, only ever gotten worse in the past 20+ years?
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>>94810376
She wins because the people who replaced her are rabid psychopaths that alienate everyone they interact with and plan their gigabrain false flag attacks without sweeping the room for bugs first.
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>>94810396
>Oddly, the perfomance profiles of some of the weaponry, in admittedly thrid-hand reports, do not match any known technologies
Soon
>The "Bull Shark." Interestingly, the insignia on the chassis pieces we found depicts a predatory Terran mammal. A wolverine, if I'm not mistaken.A curious choice of heraldry to adorn a BattleMech named for a shark.
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>>94810407
no
what makes you think the centurion is supposed to be a cheap alternative to the dragon?
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>>94810414
Mandela effect
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>>94810407
It's a Dragon for people who work smarter, not harder.
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>>94810423
And yet they still would have succeeded because what'sherface's plans rely entirely on the success of your mercenary company numerous times throughout the entire campaign.
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>>94810414
This is assuming a point where the writing was good. Battletech is the forever tug of war between "the old writing is a bit silly and doesn't fully represent it" with mecha cartwheels and newtypes and "wow the new writing fucking sucks" with it genuinely just sucking.

In this way it is more like warhammer than it is not.
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>>94810439
>[event] happens only because a special snowflake merc unit has plot armor
So, just like half of all major developments in BT?
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>>94810450
Wow, it's almost like that's bad writing and people hate the wolf's dragoons for a reason.
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So Cappies used nuke
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>>94810414
Unironically, battletech writing has never been good. It can be interesting or evocative obviously, but something like 80% of the plots run off pure nonsense and fall apart if you think about them at all.
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>>94810463
>damage controlling so hard
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>>94810414
I dunno about that. Early to mid 00s is when the Jihad and Dark Age stuff was coming out, which wasn't much to write home about, either.
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>>94810459
And the Raven Alliance bombarded Liao in return, making Daoshen MIA
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>>94810442
>>94810463
It is not a requirement for something to have originally been good for it to deteriorate.
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>>94810459
Great font colour choice on that insert headline.
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>>94810427
It is cheaper than the Dragon
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>>94810466
So are these systems worth all the fuss?
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The chin! The chin!
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>>94810482
Yep
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>>94810479
a copper butterknife is not an alternative to a silver fork
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>>94810482
Yes, all the dead mercenaries on Outreach deserved better than rest on cappie soil.
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>>94810459
Big lol at 9 megatons being a weapon of horrific scale.
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>After the birth of the Republic, the Capellan Confederation was once again on its knees . Yet within a single human lifespan, it now stands as arguably the foremost military power among the Successor States, the only one capable of threatening the ilClan.
Of fucking course
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>>94810482

What is Terra worth?
Nothing.
Everything.
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>>94810512
Funny how that works only for CC(P).
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>>94810500
Not with that mindset
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>>94810495
It's the star league but gay and lame.
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>>94810495
Someone tell the Taurians to mobilise the zero G marines again.
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>>94810482
>Wolf Empire is still standing
>Star league protectorate is still standing
Do you really need to ask this question?
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>>94810542
Clan league, capellans, taurians: The battle of the plot armors. When will the fedsuns get involved?
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I am completely clueless about post-Jihad bullshit, what's left of Comstar in the ilClan era?
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>>94810558
Comstar's dead. Schrodinger's WoB.
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>>94810168
>IKEO available now
Download link where?
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RADKA MACEDO
Title/Rank: Capitão, Cangaço Prata of Vesta
Born: Unknown
Some sources claim Radka Macedo is over two hundred years old . The Watch believes this is a rumor deliberately cultivated by the Cangaço Prata Belter crime family of Vesta to both enhance her reputation and befuddle those who would investigate her . A careful comb through surviving archival materials on Terra and elsewhere suggests the name may in fact be a form of honorific bestowed upon particularly effective agents of the criminal enterprise . Regardless of her actual age, Macedo has proven uniquely effective at evading attempts to bring law and order to the Sol system, even by Belter standards . Prisoner interrogations suggest she was occupied smuggling weapons and rebellious former RAF personnel through the spring of 3151 . Reports of her activity dwindled to nothing during the summer, but at the end of August, she reappeared . Seemingly invigorated by her absence, Macedo’s return signaled a massive upswing in Belter support for anti-Wolf groups, despite the best efforts of Clan Wolf’s aerospace forces . Worryingly for the ilClan, there are strong indications her assistance was provided without remuneration . Though some have suggested this is indicative of Cangaceiro sympathies residing with the rebels, it is more likely Radka and the other belter criminal groups feel the instability of a prolonged insurgency in the Sol system will benefit them materially . Viewed in the latter light, Macedo’s disinterest in payment is merely indicative of her belief that aiding the guerillas is a solid down payment towards a lucrative future .
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>>94810512
>it's a Xin Xin Xin Sheng episode
it's so tiresome
has the FWL at least put itself back together to be an entity again?
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>>94810626
>Xin Xin Xin Sheng by Sun Tzu returned
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>>94810626
>With new funding from Parliament, the First Free Worlds Guards began training with new Ares superheavy BattleMechs acquired from Wolf’s Dragoons
Oh boy
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a whole two threads with no bottom anon posts, what's even the thread anymore.
>it's all ilclan.
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>>94810471
>Clanners when facing Goons plot armor
>pwease accept our batchall and zellbringen
>MUH HONORABLE COMBAT
>Clanners with plot armor
>LOL LMAO FUCK HONOR
Taurians were right when refused to sign Ares convention
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>>94807218
>>94808688
If wobbies had wanted to gas the clans, they could have just had fake Marik send the Theras to clan homeworlds and just Asset Manage them out of existence.
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>>94810557
Well, they appear to be losing territory to the ravens per >>94810560
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>>94810588

Tenye wa chesh gut!
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>>94810663
Pining for your boyfriend, eh?
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>>94810426
Im calling it now, the Wolverines settled in Auregan space, and after biding their time over the century, will make a big comeback. This will, of course, send the Bears into the ultimate Tard rage and will fuck up everyone elses plans by driving a wedge rimward trying to exterminatus them.
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>>94810557
>In mid-February 3152, Protector Doru sent a ransom message to Julian Davion for Duke Hasek and all territory occupied by the Taurian offensive, demanding enough resources to enable the Taurian Defense Force to stand up a new regiment . To prevent the Capellan March from crumbling, Julian met Doru’s demands and summoned Duke Hasek to New Avalon to answer for his actions .
Davionman might pick his gun up once more
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>>94810705
Gf, but yes.
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>>94810734
>by driving a wedge rimward trying to exterminatus them.
Better clanners tried
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I think where BattleTech went wrong was when the mercenaries stopped being the main characters. We like to clown on Wolf's Dragoons and the Kell Hounds, and to a lesser extent the GDL, for all the plot armor and having such outsized impact on Galactic events, but if the setting had to have protagonists, let alone any identifiable pre-made characters whatsoever, they were still the best choice rather than big shots like the Successor Lords or the Khans. The major powers should have only existed as a backdrop for the game and all the information you get is information that would be relevant to a mercenary working for or against them and lots of it is suspect or outright contradictory. I know it's become an overused meme to call something "the Dark Souls of x", but I feel like its style of storytelling, where you only get information about most of the setting and characters through items or quest givers who may not be entirely trustworthy and maybe some environmental storytelling (which the early editions kind of did to an extent), would have worked much better than turning the whole thing into an attempt at a top down, Game of Thrones-esque dynastic political drama.
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>>94810780
Political drama would have been fine if it made sense and wasn't just factions arbitrarily passing the fiat ball between each other.
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>>94808314
It was a tough gig but it's not like the Ghost Bears could have been used for a plot gargling Alaric's balls, they're too good for that, eh? It's ok, the true Clans will keep dying. It's a badge of honor under CGL

>>94808132
>refreshed the page before posting.
You old fart
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>>94810795
>>94810780
I think you both make excellent points. I agree that seeing the setting through the eyes of people lower on the social totem pole, who don't have all the information, would have given the Inner sphere a much bigger feel to it, watching Mercenaries and such adapt to the changing political situation and how nonsensical it must look to the little guys who don't know what the House Lords and Khans are planning in the long term.
At the same time, it's fair to argue that there's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to write as a top down space opera, the problem is the writing itself is nonsensical dogshit.
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>>94810885
I doubt it's intentional, but that helmet reminds me of the one from Phoenix.
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>>94810298
>and have your pewter garbage buried with you
Hey, some of us are big on getting minis from estate sales
>>94810663
Could prolly DRIVE down to Bitchtown, Ohio to top you silly if you can't get by without it
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>>94810705
>boyfriend.
if i had one i obviously wouldn't be here, like you are terminally.
>>94811043
you're a bigger faggot that anyone could ever cry that bottom is if you make up gay nigger sex fantasies about people online.
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>>94811082
what's wrong with gay nigger sex?
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>>94811091
it's not from the GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTTER SPACE™
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>>94811082
I think the guy using a name on an anonymous board should think hard first before he calls anyone else "terminally online"
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Ikeo download link when?
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>>94811098
This movie is so good, I should watch it again
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>>94810780
>>94810885
Or you can do the middleground where the protag is neither a head honcho mover/shaker nor a mercenary with no real personal stake in anything.
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>>94811179
I wonder how he would fare in a battlemech? Poor thing wouldn't be able to keep up, but I bet he would get head shots all the time. Fucking newtype bullshit...
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>>94811109
>thinking.
naaaw i'm just gonna cope like you and lack all self awareness.
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>>94811259
Iirc Char Aznable is in Battletech's universe, he was a Battlemaster pilot in the Wolf's Dragoons.
Amuro is a prodigy pilot no doubt, but he only did as well as he did in the beginning because of the Gundam being such an amazing mech(for the time) and outperforming Zakus so hard, and Amuro fully acknowledged that.
I'd say if he was in Battletech, he'd have Phantom Mech and run a Black Knight for the Fedsuns (he's a Feddie after all).
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>>94810219
Reminder that Blood Ravens and Captain Titus are canon to 40k. GW wins again by doing absolutely nothing.
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>>94811147
you should buy a large projector or hack one of those large TVs dumbfucks put next to freeways and play it for everyone to badk in it's gay niggers from the planet uranus glory
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>>94811179
>you can choose a nobody.
>posts poorly written jerry lou character.
why are gundamtards like this?
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>>94811353
why wouldn't blood ravens be canon? unlike the IF&BA they were actually had good lore and games.....until GW went in more heavy handed on dawn of shekel 3
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>>94811336
If you squint a bit, the Battlemaster in the computer games kinda looks like a ZGok. I always thought the BK looked more like L Gaim than Gundam, tho
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>>94811421
the closest we have to a Z'gok is the father of the imp abd king if eggs, the Omega
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Fresh from the Periphery, the last IlJiffer inteligence report its already in the drop folder.
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>>94811431
*and, of
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>>94811431
You can kinda see it in this version. Squat build, clawed hands, PPC built into the arm rather than rifle-style. Plus, both have 6 tube missile launchers, though this one's off to the side rather than on top of the head. You can even give some variants a PPC on both arms. Sadly I don't think any of the computer games have UMUs.
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>>94811259
>Fucking newtype bullshit
Newtypery is just spideysense and a mental AIM messenger, at least in 0079. Any character that goes "It's a sniper!" without getting hit first is most of the way there. It's Skywalker who got the aimbot.
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>>94810495
I mean he is inbred, right?
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Are there any ~50ish ton tracked combat vehicles that use an ac/10 and an internal combustion engine?
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>>94811439
Thank you for your sacrifice.
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>>94811259
Depends on which Amuro we get. At the start of their journey he's just an above average beginner relying on a superior machine. By CCA he's untouchably skilled. Early Amuro overheats, shuts down, and is greased. CCA Amuro becomes Jesus of the Inner Sphere.
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>>94811565
Tiger, Marsden, Po
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>>94811602
Tiger looks almost perfect for what i want, thanks.
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>>94811602
>>94811626
Nevermind it's extinct lol, marsden ii it is.
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>>94811303
You already lack any self awareness so the cope must come real easy for you
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>>94811353
>>94811418
Were not the blood ravens already a thing before DoW? Just a no name mook SM chapter that got randomly picked?
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>>94811678
>Were not the blood ravens already a thing before DoW?
nope
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>>94811564
He is half so many things, I doubt any part of him is whole.
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>>94810663
I posted last thread.

what do you want?
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>>94810414
Simple, it is the business model for setting writers. You will get a couple of phenomenal writers every now and again, but for every writer like that, you have 20 who are just average to bad. The most stable example of this for a long time was the EU for star wars, as they at least had some oversight on what is being written, but most companies do not really have that guy. Just a mandate to get a story written for one reason or another.

Writers for these novels also need to assembly line it to a degree to have enough money to live. Maybe writing two or more books a year, they do not have a lot of time to think on what they are writing, how it will be in the future, because you could be in the middle of a series and for some reason your contract is yoinked.

BT has the major problem of lack of trust on CGL's part because of how they have treated their staff, artists, and writers over the years. You are most likely going to only have those who are really desperate to break into the industry, or fan demanded names like stackpoole who have some clout in order to ensure they get paid.

To sum it up, setting novelists are just in it for the paycheck.
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What book do I need if I want to know exactly how many man hours and c-bills it will take to repair or replace every component down to the points of armor?
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>>94811678
>no name mooks.
what a stupid perspective, doom legion killed a chaos battleship from the inside with a meltagun and live on a giant floating gun.
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>>94811665
>maybe of i project hard enough they'll believe me.
lol, lmao even, no fuckboy.
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>>94811573
Just passing the book, other took the arrow to the knee.

And remember kids, always FUCK CGL!
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>>94811726
prove it
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>>94811509
yeah i'm just not seeing it at all, even enabling draconis sight i didn't see it.
also there's no claw hands on the battlemaster, they're fists
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>>94811841
still skeptical.

hey homosexualfaggotLGBTBBQ, want a custom kitbashed BNC1E?
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>>94811841
also no idea wtf i'm looking at
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>>94811871
how are you still skeptical and I dunno. whatever. life is meaningless
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>>94811900
because i have the right to be skeptical.
okay i'll slap some stuff together next tuesday then tell you to re add me on discord.
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>>94811899
???

>>94811921
I don't think I blocked you? I think I just unfriended you? shrug.
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>>94811678
>>94811685
They are one of the examples of chapter trait examples in the 4th edition codex, which includes both some famous chapers and ones that existed pretty much as just a color scheme and a 1-sentence description. I think the codex predated DoW 1, though DoW did come out during 4th edition.
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>>94810734
Time to introduce Rimward Periphery tactics to Clanners
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>>94811943
i meant what the crab was on ya goof, i still remember bowtie crab.

probably idk.
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>>94810760
So did the suns get fucked over in any other ways? Did the pull the trigger on the Davion v Sandoval throwdown?
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>>94811952
why not atlas 2s? you vill scout ze enemy
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>>94812029
Am I to believe that you can set up an ambush by hiding a King Crab in the underbrush?
Because I do not believe that.
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>>94812037
The King Crab is an ambush predator, it lacks the range of Clan grade Weaponry and must instead use subterfuge.
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>>94812037
trap door it. The top of the head is flush with the ground, let it have jj to get out of ground then boom. king crab
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>>94812037
>Am I to believe that you can set up an ambush by hiding a King Crab in the underbrush?
Against Jade Falcon? Yeah. They will completely ignore any mech which isn't challenging them openly, or no challenged by them.
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>>94811952
>Prepare the King Crab Lance
THE
WHAT
That is such a good image
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>>94812037
>Am I to believe that you can set up an ambush by hiding a King Crab in the underbrush?
Anon hasn't read the rules for hidden deployment, I see.

>>94812029
>The two fucking footsoldiers clinging to the Elemental
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>>94812077
not as cool as the one guy who killed an elemental in melee combat with a KNIFE
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>>94812057
>>94812077
Yes, the wide, flat nature of the King Crabs Torso also makes it adept at urban camouflage.
I lost a ristar to what he THOUGHT was a Frozen Dairy Dispensary...
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>Atlas is supposed to have some of the best armor around
>All 100 ton mechs can mount the same amount
Armor limits don't make sense when you have a hard limit on mass.
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The entire AC debate last thread being trash really is highlighted on the differences between the DRG-1N and -1G. Just removing the AC/5 for a PPC and another medium makes it honestly a better mech if hot.
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>>94812192
Ballistics have never been worth their weight if you can get double heatsinks. They simply weight way to fucking much.
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>>94812177
they do it for the """balance""" of the game, which is why every mech except a crab or marauder has the worst armor placement and everyone except creb, gotterdammerung, or egg
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>>94810734
Clan Blakes Wolverine in the Reach is going to be funny as heck
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>>94812199
-1G has no doubleheat sinks. No advanced tech at all for that matter.
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>>94812155
I did the Batrep where a WoB King Crab was hiding by basically squatting in the bottom of a lake.

The effect was slightly ruined for my players when the King Crab failed it's first piloting roll in the water, and when it got out of there, got a TAC from an Enforcer's LB-X AC, breaking a foot actuator and making it fall again.

Thank fuck the Blakist pilot had literally every augment to avoid damage or unconsciousness or those falls and the two headshots from said LB-X AC would have actually killed or knocked him unconscious.
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>>94811782
Will they though?
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>>94812229
>I did the Batrep where a WoB King Crab was hiding by basically squatting in the bottom of a lake.
NOT EVEN A KING CRAB CAN SURVIVE MAGICAL DEATH ACID!!!
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>94811954
You know you've hit a new low when even bottom doesn't want anything to do with you
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>>94812129
IIRC it was multiple elementals. Guy would go on to become the CO of WoB 3rd Division. Which explains SO much.
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>>94812269
The rulebook: "Standing is water is a good strategy, your legs can't get hit and also you sink heat better!"
Also the rulebook: WATER IS INSTANT DEATH
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>>94812328
>IIRC it was multiple elementals
>In a Circle of Equals, right?
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>>94809326
>>94809240
Blazers were one of those weapons I want to like as well, but as stated not the best in the land because of how hot they run for little damage. ER PPC especially clan ones just outclass it.

I think Blazers are another good example of needing to be looked over balance wise for the game
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>>94811814
This pic shows it more clearly. They gave it the same treatment as the Shadow Hawk and Centurion, with the weird chameleon double thumbs.
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>>94810307
The Omega and Rattler are fine as "boss" units, but as they're SLDF prototypes you don't need to actually engage in the queer orgy of jihad to use them.
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Friendly reminder BT is a future historical wargame, not a tourneyfag WAACfest, and as such doesn't get "balance passes". Bad tech stays old and bad, and sometimes, if you're lucky, better tech comes along to replace it.
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>>94812328
what're you talking about? the guy saw an elemental ripping his squad mates apart and used a vibroblade to cut through the helmet and kill him.
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>>94812297
bro you need to come out of the closet already, it's 2025 and we got clowndemonkin demiduadriplegic gendered trans racial cis lesbians
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>>94812533
that is the ugliest fucking hand i have ever seen
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>>94812242
let me know later when you do more MK ultra LARPs
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>>94812552
>is a future historical wargame, not a balance tournament game where everyone gets a fair chance to win
For now. We're working on this.
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>>94812533
Blazers are SW tech, you should compare them to other Level 1 weapons
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>>94812667
The problem is that it's not a level 1 weapon. It's like LAMs in that regard. Most people who play succession wars are doing so because they want to play introductory technology level games. "Advanced rules, late succession war era" games are rare.
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>>94812625
Nah, missed the boat on trannyshit. In 2025 the left are essentialist nazbols who want to shoot everyone who even looks at something outside the trappings of the race and sex they were born into as a colonialist and the right still just think it's icky.
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>>94812213
As much as I want to see Argo flying towards the McKenna Pride with Moderbjörn charting a course through weapons blind zones in Rocinante style and making a combat drop of 3 King Crab lances atop of it. I think bringing Wolverine back would BT's equivalent of resurecting Primarchs in 40k.
Better keep them behind the scene as possible reason of Coalition resurgence with Bull Shark as signature mech.
I mean Alaric already traumatized by one Atlas II to the point he loses against AI in simpod, so wouldn't mind if another shows up accompanied by strange mechs to kick Woofs/SLDF
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>>94812625
Those are definitely words
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>>94810495
Can I get a qrd on this guy?
How/why is he relevant?
Is there some retard's primer to the post-Dark Age era?
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>>94812928
Pretty sure that's Alaric Steiner-Davion-Steiner-Davion-Ward, the current ilkhan who lead all of Clans Wolf and Jade Falcon to invade Terra.
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>>94812928
Yiffs khan officially made out of Crazy Kat and Vlad the Cuck genes, but actually it's Crazy Kat and Vic's vatborn son. Conquered Terra and established Third Star League.
Reinstalled CSJ from Fidelis in exchange for them switching from Republic to him
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>>94812928
>Is there some retard's primer to the post-Dark Age era?

And somehow, CGL writters make it worse...
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I love that every time Banshee shows up he just schizoposts and shits up the thread with like 5+ posts in very short order instead of replying to multiple people or not shitting up the thread with his shitty opinions.
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What is your Callsign Mechwarrior?
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>>94812964
>Reinstalled CSJ
Why the fuck would anyone do that?
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>>94812980
>Why the fuck would anyone do that?
To flex on Second Star League. And make them straight opposite from what they used to be
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>>94812980
Blame Pardoe.
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>>94812964
Were Steiners the protagonists all along?
>destroy the sphere by normalizing nuclear warfare in the SW
>save the sphere via Focht
>destroy it again via FCW
>reunite it again via Kat's tubespawned incest-abomination
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>>94813033
>>reunite it again via Kat's tubespawned incest-abomination
So far it's hard to tell, because outside of Clans none decided to join this Star League and 3 Successor States being in open war with it.
Idk what is CGL editorial policy, but in tie-in novell he is already developing common for incest babies schizophrenia
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>>94812613
Three elementals, one vibroblade, faith in Blake.

Re-reading the Field Manual Comstar to find this made me rediscover how much they slobbered on the Second League SLDF and the Black Watch, and how they died like chumps doing nothing of note in the lore. The Jihad wasn't that bad, hopefully the Third League SLDF follows suit.
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>>94810353
>What bothers you about them?
IMO
1) Lack of unique features
2) Uncanny valley in terms of writting. Most of the game carries almost every essential part of authentic BT story (Space Feudalism, SLDF secret caches and even clanners), but those parts are mostly displaced badly. Characters aren't really catching (although if they've included romance option there still would be plenty of simps on /vg/), some of them acts out of characters.
All in all mostly because they don't live up to the game's OST and nicely done slideshows, which leads to frustration (because game was pretty promising, players don't frustrate over bad games).
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configuration is standard for the circuses Sphere-wide .
Despite the Capellan Confederation’s pressing need for
troops at the front, reliable rumors place elements of the
Eleventh Sian Dragoons under Shàng-xiào (Colonel) Sao
Yang in the Magistracy of Canopus during the past year,
moving steadily rimward . Last seen jumping out from Luxen,
Yang’s course appeared headed in the general direction of
McEvedy’s Folly

Hey now, that sure is conspiracy fuel. The last Minnesota Tribe contacts were found one jump away from there. And while the McEvedy that system is named for is not a Wolverine, I wouldn't put it past the CGL writers to just not know or care about that in the face of such an obvious name connection. There's also Frobisher, but unless the chancellor wanted a fish GF I don't see why they'd be going there.
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>>94813172
>The last Minnesota Tribe contacts were found one jump away from there.
Source?
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I sometimes think that the WAACfags having to use some military equipment. Give them a owens gun or something then they just bitch about it not being super optimized and best it is.
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>>94813197
Interstellar Players 3, they found a datapad in an uninhabited system less than 30 light years from McEvedy's Folly, but then it got Blake'd. The only other system of note around there is Frobisher.
Both McEvedy's Folly and Frobisher had serious star league medical experiments, so they could be snooping around for that even though the whole area has been picked clean for centuries.
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When boarded by Wolf
forces, the Interstellar Expeditions crew claimed to have
misjumped from the mid 31st century aboard a Cult of the
Saints Cameron treasure ship lost in the 27th century . Spina
Khanate subsequently won a Trial of Possession for the ship
and its cargo . [Cultists, time travel, treasure ships…the true
investigation should be as to whether the Sea Foxes are
importing necrosia from the Scorpion Empire for personal
use . —Chance]
Yo wtf. You can't do my boys dirty like this.
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Just some headcanon I had for "street level" details and such.

>Hot Dr. Pepper is popular with MechWarriors since any soda they bring with them is bound to get hot and they develop a taste for it after a while. Dr Pepper hot toddy is a mainstay at many merc bars alongside Timbiki Dark and the various iterations of the PPC grain alcohol cocktail.
>Cities with permanent Battlemech garrisons or significant industrialmech use would have no mech or light mech only zones with really big traffic signage to keep them from falling through the pavement in areas of structural weakness where a sewer or subway tunnel is too close to the surface.
>Organized religion being what it is, ComStar had a big pedophilia problem. One of the ways the WOB managed to court followers away from the other factions was by appealing to disgruntled altar boys and others who were disillusioned with their deviance that most of its members were so cybernetically altered that they no longer had sexual organs.
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>>94813244
>Cultists, time travel, treasure ships…the true
>investigation should be as to whether the Sea Foxes are
>importing necrosia from the Scorpion Empire for personal
>use . —Chance
Next time she should ask what happenned with Snow Raven Star on Novo Franklin or Star Colonel Taran Sender
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>>94813244
But hey, ctrl+f found me another smidge of Saints Cameron.

There are reports of religious extremists amassing
followers in the region, flourishing where central authorities
are weak . The most frequent sightings are of Neo-Blakist
splinter groups, the One Star Faith, and the Cult of the Saints
Cameron, and Freeminder sects have been reported on
worlds bordering the Rasalhague Dominion

We're coming for you... whoever we're coming for.
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>>94813294
>Lucifer
Have they added an ejecto seato to it yet, or this still the spheroid solahma fighter?
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>>94812980
Jaguars are based
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>>94813084
Blakists really were the best thing to come out of the lore

Oh well, at least we get more clans
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>>94810557
>Taurians
>plot armour
lmao wut?
The holy Trinity is Capellan/Canopian/Ghost Bear, with honourable mention for the Wolves
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>>94813377
Sorry the true Jaguars joined the Knights of Randis
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A vessel matching the description of the long-vanished
Bright Star was reportedly spotted in the vicinity of the
Chameleon Nebula . Designed for automated mapping of
unexplored space, it went rogue in 2545 and disappeared .
However, the report claims the 600-year old vessel was not a
derelict, but powered up and jumped away when hailed . If it
is the Bright Star, it could have made far more detailed surveys
of the Deep Periphery than any we have and may contain
information about the Homeworld Clans
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The thing I don't like about new Jags is that they did a 180 on their actions. Surrender your Dreams had them hating clanners, "kill it with fire" prejudice. Then new books drop and they not only like the Clans now, they want to become one again. The retardation going on BLP's brain ruined this setting for ages
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A lostech device activated on Butte Hold may have
permanently altered the planet’s ecosystem . The Hell’s Horses,
New Oberon Confederation, and Interstellar Expeditions have
all sought to enforce competing claims on the technology

Hold the Butte!
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Following sightings of the notorious bandit ’Mech
known as “the Dark One” in the Wastes in 3149, Star Colonel
Taran Sender was dispatched Star Colonel Taran Sender
to investigate whether its unusual capabilities involved
prototype Star League technology . According to Snow Raven
reports, Sender partnered with Raven Watch operatives
to pursue the BattleMech in question but perished on
Onverwacht in 3151

Are we spooked yet?
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If a spacer was for some reason outside working on an external fixture when a jumpship jumped, would the spacer jump safely, suddenly find himself floating alone where the jumpship used to be, or some weird third option?
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Black Marauder and that bio mech thing from the old comics are connected somehow.
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>>94813534
Space squid eats him.
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Do they ever explain what's going on with the Bounty Hunter? My theory is he's like a Phoenix Lord from Warhammer. The suit has some kind of AI or a personality recording or even a piece of preserved brain from the original and it takes over the body of whoever wears it.
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>>94813534
I'm pretty sure he'd be fine, a human is a pretty small thing and it's unlikely someone working on the outside of the jumpship would be far enough away to be outside of the K-F field. That's a serious failure of procedure considering how long it takes to actually start a jump and how many warnings the entire assembly gets when it's preparing to jump, though. You can't just accidentally hit a button on the bridge and suddenly the whole thing goes. It takes tens of minutes at least.
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>>94813543
>realistic answer
"A Marauder with mimetic armour"
>optimal answer
"The Gene Caste did it. The absolute madmen."
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>>94811439
How long does it take to appear in the regular folder? I really wanna read it
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>>94813575
It's just a Mandalorian expy, the suit comes with a philosophical journal and logs. Not all Bounty Hunters cared about it and their actual behavior changes substantially from one individual to another. Some are more money hungry, others have moral standards. One or two are only using it as a front for other goals and aren't really as mercenary as the persona implies.
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>>94813543
Ultra-black SLDF R&D project to fit a jump drive teleporter into a mech that ended up smearing it across time and space.
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>>94813590
Also Dread Pirate Roberts
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>>94813588
However long it takes snord to get to it. He's likely working right now since it's mid afternoon for him. I expect he'll get to it this evening.
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>>94813685
Just drop a link to the PDF in the thread, why you fags have to act so gay about it?
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>>94811421
Feels like they were trying to invoke the Sazabi more, but weren't willing to make a whole new mech just for a little reference.
It would have been cool to have a Battletech style Sazabi, but the writers probably thought they were already pushing it with the Horned Owl.
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>>94814004
There are copyright bots trawling this entire website. Frankly it's a miracle those open links in the OP exist.
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>>94813394
>The holy Trinity is Capellan/Canopian/Ghost Bear, with honourable mention for the Wolves
The wolves have literally won the setting, and you're still saying that someone else has more plot armor. Fuck off.
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>>94814026
So? You're afraid you get sued if you post a gofile link or something?
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>>94814044
No. I just want you, personally, to not get it. If you, personally, want it so much, then go buy it and support the company. You and CGL deserve one another.
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>>94811353
BR equivalent is the Crescent Hawks who are still canon, Not House Arano.
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>>94814049
Well at least you've shown your true faggot colors instead of coping about copyright bots.
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>>94814066
Cry about it and eat a bullet. I have the book and you don't.
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>>94814103
Ok bitch, if we're having spite olympics here I'm just gonna report those links in the OP to CGL. Have a day.
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>>94814120
This threat makes sense because CGL seems like a sleek and efficient company that will quickly forward such a report to the fancy law firm they definitely have on retainer.
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>>94812975
Crabmaster
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>>94814038
Based newfag. I bet you think BT is over too lmao.
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>>94814155
They don't have to do any of that to take down copyright infringing links. Guess we'll see.
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>>94814120
>>94814103
Just fuck and get it over with.
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>>94810459
>the Daoshen

quality proofreading as always also lol at who the nuke came from

>>94810471
>Chalchihuitlcue Pontekorva
Whoever created that character name was really trying to get those diversity points and fuck trying to say that out loud. A Slav with an Aztec first name in Space China.
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>>94814287
>slav
That sounds more like a corruption of "Pontecorvo".
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>>94814287
There are two infoboxes above that information explaining that it's not true. Granted in white on white and black on black.
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>>94814386
Amazing page composition skills.
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>>94812975
Shake N Blake
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>>94813084
Oh they were Nova Cats that is less impressive. When was the last time the Nova Cats ever wont anything
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>>94814120
Where exactly do you think you're going to find your free books if you do that? But whatever, you aren't the first and you won't be the last.
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>>94813602
Teleporting Mechs you say?
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>>94814044
No, but I don't know what kind of watermarks are hidden in this PDF and frankly we don't need to draw more attention here anyway.

>>94814120
Oh, you're a bitch anyway.
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>>94814038
Its because they haven't fully committed to the Reunification War 2: Electric Boogaloo yest, which means nuSLDF havent tried to invade the periphery *yet*

Which means as soon as they hit the angry cows, they're army is going to be smashed to pieces. Theyll still win, because they "have" to, but they'll be left in a state where anyone can easily mop them up and retake terra

THAT is Taurian plot armor
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>>94813394
Taurians get a giant plot armor buff when they're fighting a star league or great house.
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Any idea when the physical rulebooks will be back in stock? And why the fuck don't they just put everything in PoD?
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Do you guys want to see Bull Shark canonized?
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>>94814589
>and frankly we don't need to draw more attention here anyway
Well too bad.
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>>94814832
Not really, I want the Wolverines to remain mysterious and absent. A little poking and prodding at the edges of the idea is okay, but hard evidence like that greases the slope. Plus I'm pretty sure the timeline doesn't add up for it having actual clantech. Maybe some early clan prototype weapons on a Star League Royal grade frame, but not full blown clantech.
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>>94814614
Nah, this time the cows join the Star League and back Alaric's claim to the FedCom thrones. Mainly as a fuck you to the suns
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Angry little man
To spite those already fed
Shits on his own plate
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>>94814832
I think it would be neat to have it as a design that floated around in the periphery and got some artisan and frankenmech production but never caught on because it isn't that good, and then 150 years later some sea fox watch guy writes a report saying basically "well we shore would like to know where the fuck this came from but it's impossible to know now"
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>>94813485
confused here, BLP? And what retardation specifcally? I do not keep up with drama. Last one I remember even hearing about was the guy getting canned for supporting trump like 2 to 3 years ago
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>>94814877
He actually got canned for posting a many many paragraphs long tirade about how pathetic fans are for arguing about which mech a faction would use. Which is a terrible idea when your fanbase is the "arguing about which mech a faction should use" fandom. It was also pretty pathetic that he got that whiny over facebook posts he could just choose not to look at.

Anyway, he had a lot of retardation, but the main thing was that he let his personal feelings get in the way a lot, especially with how much certain factions won or lost. BLP was the ultimate Wolf Author Fiat Wanker. It was all about how good Wolves were, and everything else was secondary. BLP hated the Republic, so he insisted he'd only write Hour Of The Wolf if he got to wipe out the Republic so hard there wasn't even a remnant. BLP liked the Smoke Jaguars, so he disregarded twenty years of writing about the Fidelis to have them magically turn into a new Clan Smoke Jaguar. It was dumb and, for a large part, petty.

If nothing else, he deserves hate for liking Clan Wolf.
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>>94814866
Well it wasn't full Clan Tech, didn't have Clan PPC or anything. Or Clan DBS.
I agree on the edges, but that's how I'd have preferred to keep the Exodus fleet too.
But with the Clan invasion, that little thread got pulled.
Wolverines, or the missing Cameron, some new thread will have to get pulled eventually... even though we know the ilKhan is still around in the 3200s.
>>94814876
I like that too.
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>>94810471
>...and then the bigger warship blew everything up. The end.
Warships and their reintroduction have been a disaster for the game of Battletech.
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>>94814120
Tanking everyone to spite one person after they dropped it its just not an instant leak.
Jfc anon.
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>>94810471
From the cappie point of view, this was the clanners opening a really stinky can of worms. They can make more nukes than the ravens can make warships.
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>>94810459
>Overwhelming clan forces
FROM FUCKING WHERE? The Wolves and Falcons absolute shattered the Republic forces. Then, they nearly annihilated each other. The Falcons lost literally 98% of their entire touman. There's like 200 of them left. The Wolves are in barely better shape. Meanwhile, the Capellans have more mech regiments than anyone else in the Inner Sphere. So, where the fuck did the Wolves manage to find overwhelming forces in that one year?

What fucking cheeseball stupidity is this?

>>94810471
>you blew up an uninhabited ruin, so we're going to massacre an entire city of millions
What kind of dogshit writing is this? How does that even make sense as an emotional response? Randall Bills is a fucking hack.
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>>94815061
>we're going to massacre an entire city of millions
It's fine when the Dracs do it. Why not Clanners?
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>>94815061
It's the same answer for both questions, the snow ravens are apparently willing and able to leverage all their warships wherever Alaric wants them for any or no reason. Somehow he's more worried about owing too much to the shark foxes.
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>>94815076
Because I like Dracs. I don't like clanners.
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>>94815076
It at least played into their "evil japanese" thing. This is just brainless.
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>>94815032
Aerospace anti-missile systems make you immune to missiles if you have enough of them
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>>94815255
That isn't true.
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>>94815061
They cover this in Trial of Birthright
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>>94815076
It's not though, people bring up Kentares IV to shit on the Dracs all the time. Hell even the Dracs thought it was too much, the Coordinator at the time was explicitly insane. Plus Dracs are explicitly evil, they openly want to conquer all of human civilization.
Using Dracs as a whataboutism defense is silly.
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>>94815384
Yeah, they explain that the Wolves are so incredibly gutted that they can't even spare anything to escort a message ship. Them pulling entire galaxies out of literally thin air is fucking garbage.
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>>94815393
>Plus Dracs are explicitly evil, they openly want to conquer all of human civilization.
How, exactly, is this different from the Clans?

Also, I'm pretty sure that even in modern novels, Dracs go Full Warcrime and wipe out entire cities when faced with even bare minimum opposition. Like, 1 lance of enemies warrants glassing a city. IIRC the Nellis Academy novels show precisely this.

The comparison is absolutely valid. Dracs get away with it while Clanners do the same shit, because people are mad about the Clans existing at all.
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>>94815032
That would only trigger a race to see who can level the other faster. Well if they want to reset the setting back to the Succession Wars' state...
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>>94815446
When one side destroys the other's capital city from orbit on a whim isn't it a little silly to be worried about escalation?
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>>94815446
>a race to see who can level the other faster.
This is ok with me as long as my side wins.
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>>94815446
They've already gone past that point. If the cappies just let them get away with glassing a whole city (their capital city even), then what stops them from doing it again? What stops anyone else from doing it, you think the Anduriens of all people don't have a few nukes up their sleeves? Deterrence you don't use is no deterrence.
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>>94812975
Target Practice
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>>94815468
>>94815474
This, the escalation is already there. The Clanners just kicked off the beginning of a nuclear world(interstellar?) war.
Though if their "overwhelming Clan forces" popping up out of nowhere is anything to go by, the Clans are gonna get out of the widespread destruction they've just kick-started completely scott-free because CGL is run by furries.
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>>94815513
Apparently the wall is still functioning enough to keep any cappie retaliation at bay. But given who did it, there should be a maskirova deep raid on its way to the raven homeworlds.
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>>94815513
Hasn't the Raven's whole thing since forever been having a big pile of warships? I'm pretty sure the tension going in to this book was whether or not they would actually use them in service to the ilclan.
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>>94815474
>>94815468
Chang-an is not CapCon capital city, it's Sian
Also, Sian already got bombarded by WarShips in 3068, by Davion (actually WoB but Cappies thought it's FedSun)
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>>94815541
Chang-an is the capital city of the planet Sian. It is the capitalest capital city that they have. It's the capital of the capital. The capital's capital is the capital.
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>>94815405
>Them pulling entire galaxies out of literally thin air is fucking garbage.
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>>94815534
Well it's certainly not the tension coming out of it, considering they seem to have deployed them at Alarics every whim and asked for almost nothing in return.
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A Cameron will return and challenge Alaric for head of the new Star League.
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>>94815405
Xin Sheng but Woof, used against Cappies
it's pottery
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>>94815527
>going to need to cross Drack and/or Fed territory

Would they even allow that?
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>>94815527
>wall is still functioning enough to keep any cappie retaliation at bay.

Wont be that way for long. They are running out of drive cores *fast*
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>>94815556
Put him in an Ice Hellion uniform
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>>94810168
Hey dumbass, the old thread *still* hasn't fallen off yet
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In what ways the battlemechs could be used outside of battle? Something civilian/entertainment?
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>>94815605
So go post in that one faggot
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>>94815582
Deep raids don't usually ask for permission, especially not if they're doing warcrimes.
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>>94815609
Weh have whole categories of Mechs that cover it (IndustrialMechs)
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>>94815612
Its less "asking for permission" and more "hey this strange raider force has jumped in-system and is refusing all hails, lets go fuck them up"
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>>94815582
>>94815612
Hmm, so individual civilian/mercantile/merc jumpships+dropships must ask for permission before making a jump to faction X system? Space passport and visa?
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>>94815609
>>94815620
sorry, forgot 'outside of industrialmechs'
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>>94815624
Deep raids don't land in inhabited systems generally. Maybe once every few jumps a random merchant jumpship will be logged somewhere along the way (with no HPGs to send all these reports to a central collator in any reasonable amount of time), but there's a reason why the first two succession wars and jihad were not limited to irradiating border worlds. You can go almost anywhere undetected if you want to spend time going the long way around.
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>>94815629
Interstellar logistics is similar to irl logistics. The relevant authorities would like to keep tabs on where you came from, where you are going and how you plan to get there.
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>>94815610
As per your request: >>94815684
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>>94815680
But unlike real life, they don't have 24/7 satellite coverage of every square inch of travel space
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>>94814991
Warships are good, but need to prevent them from just orbital bombarding as NEA has said before. Put orbital canons that will fuck their day up.

Though this will probably be the last time SR is allowed to do much, because they are the warship/aero faction, they will not be allowed to use that might for the most part cause of people bitching about warships and aero/the writers do not know how to fucking handle it
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>>94815645
Any mech not a Battlemech is an IndustrialMech.

There are, of course, subtypes under the I-Mech category that include, but aren't limited to: AgroMechs, CargoMechs, SecurityMechs....
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>>94815692
Okay, and?
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>>94815695
>Put orbital canons that will fuck their day up.

This is probably the most elegant solution to the Warship problem.

Have the deveopment of ground-based defenses that will royally fuck up Warships. However due to the heavy mass of the cannons, they can't be wielded as effectively against smaller dropships and aerospace fighters.

Warships are still viable because theyre needed to control space around the planets, they just can't loiter over a strategically significant target long enough to glass it otherwise they get blasted.

The smaller dropships can still land and deploy Mechs, so conventional ground battles still exist in-setting, without Warships just invalidating any meaningful mass of armed forces.
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>>94815709
That means it's easy to be where they aren't looking and where they can't send enforcement in a reasonable timeframe
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>>94814911
Wonder why he hated the Republic. Though I somewhat get some of it as they seemed Mary Sue, but overall seemed like an inoffensive faction
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>>94815729
Dropships will still take quite a few losses since someone introduced subcapitals into the setting. Don't know how many though since I haven't tested it
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>>94815779
Although now I think only blakists had those weapons
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>>94815791
The Kuritans have them too, in the PWS fleet they built to counter the Ghost Bear navy.
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>>94815791
Everyone has subcapital weapons by Ilclan. but >>94815779 is casually assuming anyone in setting has the budget to cover an entire planet in them.
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Something I am glad MW games have removed, rear facing weapon. Majority of the time they are useless. I can understand on some of the back line mechs they can be useful like an archer, but stuff like a dragon, centurion, and Cataphract need that frontal punch more
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>>94815701
Yes, I just wanted to ask, what roles the battlemechs, specifically, could be used outside of battle, that isn't covered by thr industrialmechs; IIRC they make holovid movies with the battlemechs, but what else could there be
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>>94815822
Guys I play against run enough backstabbers that I usually find a use for them, even when given the option to flip them around.
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>>94815826
porn star. Someone has a fetish for mechs bumping and grinding most likely.
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New thread when?
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>>94813509
>Are we spooked yet?
Taran Sender was certaiknly spooked
>The entire mountainside slid down into the gap. MechWarriors responded instantly, racing away from the landslide, down the road from whence they had come. All made it, except for Murder Two. Her Stormcrow vanished into the dust and debris, crushed under a megaton of rock. The enemy drew first blood without ever being seen.
>Even with his expanded perspectives, there was one place Taran could not see, a darkness so complete it defied the very concept of vision. Light seemed to fall into it, the way it might spin into a stellar singularity and be lost forever. It was the void into which humankind shouted, and it would answer back.
>Vik’s War Crow struggled to rise, its left leg severed below the knee. The enemy had felled their strongest first. The Dark Crow and surviving Stormcrow spread to its sides, attempting to force this blackness to show one of them its back. It attacked both. The Dark Crow spun and staggered while the Stormcrow plowed into the earth, its cockpit vaporized.
>A mix of emotions overcame Taran, anger chief among them. “You have deceived me, Lydia Spaatz. You have brought me here to face a bane beyond the skill of your warriors. You need a Wolf to make the kill so you can feed on it, like the carrion eaters you are.” He turned away from the battle. “Fight your own wars."
>“You cannot see as I see!” Taran felt his lips curl into a snarl. “I do not know what evil you have summoned here, but it is not my mission to cleanse it.”
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>>94815877
When we hit page 8.
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I hate that theyre actually doing shit with the black marauder
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>>94815967
Yeah I hope they stop.
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>>94815967
So far they've only made reference to last Black Marauder story
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>>94815967
If wouldn't be so bad if the Marauder wasn't black. I'm so tired of racial coding in TTRPG spaces.
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>>94815967
It's not a new story with it, just an in-universe acknowledgement of the last time it showed up.
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>>94815609
You see youngin, you just need to make a really big football...
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folks are going to be angry. the Aurigan Coalition is not dead, they even get mentioned in the book as becoming more active in trading with everyone around them (except the bull-ie boys.. something about bad blood with the Taurians dating back from the 3020's.
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>>94816234
Luv 2 refuse to trade with my largest neighbor because of a two year period a century and a half ago.
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>>94816234
The plot after jihad is genuinely unsalvageable and I don't care how they keep butchering it. They can keep piling as much garbage on as they want.
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>>94816234
they also have blakist king crab lances
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>>94816234
>folks are going to be angry
Always true.

I'm curious what else it says about them.
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Whats going on with the Lyrans in IKEO? Are they starting to figure their shit out or are they just going to continue getting shit on?
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>>94816291

Not much (its in the rumors section), this is from over on Reddit (someone there has the book)

Trading vessels bearing the livery of the Aurigan Coalition have reportedly been spotted in increasing numbers since 3149, making port calls in the Fronc Reaches, Magistracy of Canopus, and Capellan Confederation. Despite being adjacent to Taurian space, none have been spotted there, suggesting bad blood stemming from the 3020s persists. Their increased presence may signal a resurgence in the Aurigan sector, and a potential shift in the regional balance of power.

Apparently there's a second part where they have strange tech that doesn;t quite match star league. It's believed to be stuff like the Bull Shark, but the rumor section wonders if its blakist)
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>>94816318
So its probably Kamea's great grandkid aping the aesthetics of the Coalition. Neat.
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makes me wonder if they dug out that SLDF site that they blew up in HBS bT
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>>94816318
Blakist tech would be nice. It would be more interesting if factions leaned more into the weird blakist/comstar stuff rather than just slapping clantech on everything.
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>>94816339
>late in 3152 the Aurigans start fielding Celestials
Make it happen, CGL
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>>94816335
Or they've found another one with MommaBear's help
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>>94816291
>>94816318
It's literally in this thread>>94810396
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>yfw house Arano will be a David who defeats inbred Goliatg
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>>94816380
>Bolan back in Steiner hands

ITS COMING HOME LADS
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>>94815695
>Warships are good, but need to prevent them from just orbital bombarding as NEA has said before.
A simple solution is that most warships are defending important systems and therefore acting as deterrents to attacks by other warships so 90% of battles won't have them. Of course this is then accompanied by the setting switching back to 3025 style raiding as the primary form of warfare and dropping the meta plot of furries conquering the Inner Sphere by having them being kicked out of the Inner sphere.

Of course as we're already seeing the devs don't want to do that and are instead planning on pulling out galaxies of Clanners out of their ass in order for the Wolves and their Falcon and Jaguar pets to conquer the Inner Sphere
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I can't remember did any of the Steiner Davion kids inherit Hanse's red hair? I know Victoer and Kat were blonde
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>>94813976
It's a discord
They have a few venues they regularly go to and of course playing at home

I've played bolt action with some folk, but I'm too scared to just go ask someone to give me the finer details of Battletech even tho they offered it multiple times
/Autism gang/
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>>94814982
>even though we know the ilKhan is still around in the 3200s.
Wasn't it decanonized by CGL somehwere?
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>>94816511
I forgot my picture to make this more relevant to btg
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>>94816508
Yvonne does at least in some art.
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>>94815411
>because people are mad about the Clans existing at all.
Makes sense. Since Clanners literally betrayed every single agreement they've made with spheroids.
Nova Cat betrayed Combine
Wolf in Exile betrayed LCW
Fidelis and Ghost Bears betrayed Republic of the Sphere
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>>94813244
>the true investigation should be as to whether the Sea Foxes are importing necrosia from the Scorpion Empire for personal use . —Chance
>Scorpion, sell us Warhawk!
>No *wrecks Sea Fox in two trials in a row*
>Well sell at least something, we are clan of mechants after all
>What about...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcBIzuuIdOA
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>>94810334
I read a series of articles written by, iirc, one of the head writers, in which she expressed her general disdain for the Battletech setting. I wonder if there were internal clashes over that kind of thing, along with the usual budget/scope issues. It seemed like by the time the game was out, HBS was ready to move on fast. Which is a shame, because HBS Battletech is quite good IMO! It's a solid intro to the basic concepts of the world, and while it plays fast and loose with some things, it still gives you the "feel" of Battletech. I genuinely think it could have been expanded on, brought into the Clan Invasion, etc.
And, well, too bad for HBS their next project had basically zero mass appeal and was a flop out of the gate.
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>>94816374
Whoever kicks furries is hero by default.
Besides, Aurigans already kicked one Kerensky
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>>94816575
Makes you wonder why HBS took on the game unless they had to do it via contract with CGL because of Shadowrun.
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>>94816535
people dislike the clans because they're horribly written, win by pure fiat, and injected technology into the game that many consider unhealthy for the game
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Come to think of it, it's weird how my first contact with the Battletech is via a passage from a game magazine walkthrough
>You either save your sister's life, or let her die and get the best robot in the game
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>>94816626
>people dislike the clans because they're horribly written,
Outside of Woofs plot armor and GHB bias, Clans one of the signature faction of the game
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>>94816606
The owner of HBS created both Shadowrun and Battletech. He wanted to do both. Rest of the staff, I cannot say.
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>>94816645
that's not mutually exclusive with being poorly written
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>>94816535
Don't forget sea foxes betraying FWL and somehow being allowed to stay. And not just stay, but set up a cease fire by directly fighting against the FWLM. I hope Alaric ignores their peace deal and they get fucking crushed by the Free World Guards who are stationed directly on their capital world.
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>>94816606
They actually explained it back when they were more transparent.
They were making a turn based game of their own IP called Golem Arcana, it's similar to BT in some regards. Then they got an offer from microsoft to try and do something with battletech since they are making a game anyway.
So they took this golem arcana game and dressed it up as battletech to boost the appeal, and it worked.
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>>94816654
>being poorly written
And where exactly?
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>>94816649
Yeah, I got the impession the grey beards at the studio were pushing for battletech but the blue hairs pushed back.
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>>94816672
clan society itself is retarded, the clans winning is retarded, clantech and it being impossible for anyone except clans to mass produce is retarded
it's just exceptionally bad writing all the way down
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>>94815474
>If the cappies just let them get away with glassing a whole city (their capital city even), then what stops them from doing it again
Don't start none, don't be none. Cappies dropped a nuke first. They fucked around, and they found out, and now there's less Cappies in the setting. I fail to see a problem. Maybe be more careful who you piss off next time.
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>>94816693
>clan society itself is retarded,
Yeah no shit. The whole setting is about how society was degrading
>the clans winning is retarded,
Was Great Refusal a victory for the Clans?
>clantech and it being impossible for anyone except clans to mass produce is retarded
Clantech makes sense, but I agree with second. Although IS have drastically bigger industrial base, so prefering cheaper IS mechs and developing their own omnimechs makes sense

>>94816695
Take the knot out of your gaping asshole first
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>>94816626
>injected technology into the game that many consider unhealthy for the game
You had me until here.
The Tech in BT not being dog ass isn't what's hurting it and this "problem" would've been solved had they just made clan tech the baseline during FCCW after the IS bought it off the sharks and reverse engineered it.
If you want shitboxes one should play periphery.
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new thread
>>94816729

>>94816729
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>>94816716
>If you want shitboxes one should play periphery.
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>>94816712
>The whole setting is about how society was degrading
most IS citizens live better than we do on modern day earth according to the statistics
clan society is so detrimental to the majority of people living in it that it shouldn't even exist past a couple decades
>Was Great Refusal a victory for the Clans
terra and like half of the inner sphere is owned by clanners, the clans won
>prefering cheaper IS mechs and developing their own omnimechs makes sense
clantech is at most 15% more expensive, there is no cost benefit argument
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>>94816712
>Take the knot out of your gaping asshole first
You're just pissy because the Clans won something. No argument just an insult. Pathetic, even for an assmad Cappie fan who's reeeing now that the Capcon actually had a setback for the first time since 1997.
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>>94816733
shitbox (old and bad tech) not shitbox (literal)
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>>94812975
November Inda Golf Romeo



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