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>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://mtglands.com

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>How to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ:
Why is Izzet the best color combo?
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Gay Bolas
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>>94810903
WotC would rather add a card to the reserved list and ban it from all formats than reprint it in a reasonable timeframe.
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>Friend builds pic
>Gambling with topdecking is respectable
>Whips out the Scroll Rack, Divining top and scry
You're a goddamn coward for not having faith in your deck.
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>Blue gets a billion busted cards (cyclonic rift, forbid, pact of negation)
>They get to stay legal
>Black gets a billion busted cards (opposition agent, sheoldred, tergrid)
>They get to stay legal
>White gets a billion busted cards (drannith magistrate, farewell, elesh norn)
>They get to stay legal
>Green gets a billion busted cards (vorinclex, gaea's cradle, nyxbloom ancient)
>They get to stay legal
>Red gets one kinda okay card that punishes people for playing artifacts (the thing red is supposed to be good at)
>OMG BAN BAN BAN GET RID OF IT SO OP!!!
Why is red not allowed to be a good color?
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>https://youtu.be/o-81HF-Jp7o?si=mAcVXirkRC8hjats
>card can tutor for every other card
>my astral slide deck will never be this good
feels bad
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What are some cards like Share the Spoils? I love it and have it in all of my red decks as a pet card. I don't think it's good, but it shakes up games and keeps things exciting.
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>no no casual means that if I make a mistake at any point I can walk it back and you have to pretend you're playing with a toddler or ill get upset!!!!
I hate this community so much
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>>94811129
>Forbid
One of these things is not like the others...
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>>94811048
The card is literally less than a year old. What's a "reasonable timeframe" to re print cards. You dramatic fucktard lmao
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>>94811129
I know this is just bait but imagining your greasy fingers typing it up amuses me. Oh yeah, also Underworld Breach.
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>>94811215
About 25 years according to WotC.
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>>94811225
I thought this was Reserve List, no joke.
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>>94811129
>forbid
>busted
Actually most of these cards aren't busted at all lmao
Dockside interacted with enchantments as well which you are leaving out which is absolutely NOT reds job. It also doesn't punish people for having artifacts.... it rewards you for them having artifacts. Too low CMC, too abusable it was a very good ban. Funniest part is no decks actually needed it
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>>94811135
None of snails decks are good have you dver actually goldfished them? Or brought them to an LGS that isn't his carefully constructed pod? They get blown out lmao
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>>94811225
.... this is on the list
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>>94811245
What's The List? Sounds like something WotC discontinued.
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>>94811254
Whether or not it still has been reprinted :)
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>94811239
>goldfishing some other dude's deck
sounds pretty gay
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>>94811505
Awwww did one of snails fans get upset I'm not jerking him off?
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>>94811135
post list
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>>94811234
Red is absolutely allowed to interact with the existence of enchantments. What it’s not allowed to do is remove them.
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>>94811069
It wasn't porn, but it was Deviantart shit.

https://x.com/omgscarypet/status/1376180852070174725
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>>94811636
Red interacting with enchantments is sacrificing them. So uh no, red doesn't interact with enchantments. This and Infernal Phantom are the only red cards that somewhat positively interact with enchantments, and by positive I mean not just sacrifice them and forgeborn clearly cares about enchantment creatures realistically. Fuck sakes anon there are TWENTY EIGHT RED CARDS that even have the word enchantment on them. Out of 4300 red cards. No red does not do enchantments.
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Dumb question, but is Inniaz considered Azorius commander if white mana is mentioned on abilities instead of mana value? Would this allow me to use white cards on the 99 deck?
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>>94811672
Correct
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>>94811662
?
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>>94811662
???
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>>94811691
Chaos Warp is acknowledged as a break, anon. Red can punish the presence of enchantments, but not remove them.
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Best commander for this crad?
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>>94811683
>sacrificing enchantments
Ill give you the one on the right though I missed that. Very cool we are up from 2/4300 to 3/4300. Up from 0.04% of red cards interact with enchantments in a meaningful way to 0.06!!!
>>94811691
Yes?
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>>94811718
>but not remove them.
I posted a card that removes them.
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>>94811662
>forgeborn clearly cares about enchantment creatures realistically
Not really, no. Nothing about the card specifies enchantment creatures, and red didn’t have much in the way of enchantment creature token creation in the format. It just benefits enchantments, full stop.
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>>94811738
>not really no
>looks at journey into nyx
>oh its a set full of enchantment creature cards
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>>94811719
Why is there an american civil war officer in the background?
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>>94811752
It also happens to be full of enchantments!
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>>94811723
There’s a significant difference between “sacrificing your own enchantments for benefits” and “forcing an opponent to either take damage or sacrifice an enchantment”. One of those is enchantment-matters, the other is enchantment punishment.
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>>94811753
That's Bo Levar, you cretin
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>>94811752
If it were only intended for enchantment creatures, it would say enchantment creatures. It was intended for enchantments in general.
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>>94811767
Sorry grandpa!
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>>94811759
>>94811775
Correct now which archetype does red tend towards anon? Creature strategies or enchantment ones? I remember nyx draft pretty well and I can tell you that the red archetypes were creature filled
>>94811761
Fine anon you can have FOUR cards out of 4300 bringing us up to 0.07% of red cards meaningfully interacting with enchantments also meaning 99.93% of red cards do not. It is very safe to say that red does not interact with enchantments.

Everything else aside just focus on the numbers. 0.07% of red cards meaningfully interacting with enchantments. Saying it's within reds part of the pie is dishonest.
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>>94811799
Hell, even if the entire fucking scryfall page for red cards that mention enchantments were counted thats STILL .65%, less than 1%. The colour does not do it full stop.
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>>94811718
>Chaos Warp is acknowledged as a break
>Red causing random effects that can be positive or negative for either player is a break.
Now I've heard it all.
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Black doesn't kill artifacts, Red doesn't kill enchantments. Seems fair to me.
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>mox opal costs as much as almost 3 crypts
>it costs almost as much as crypt, vault, and chrome mox combined
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>>94811834
>Good card for free fast mana is expensive
You don't say
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>>94811830
Black dont do enchantments either, 2 sorcercies and some ways to make someone sac permanents they can choose from dont really count
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>>94811846
2 Sorceries? what about the new INSTANT?
Yeah that's what I thought
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>>94811828
its literally considered a break for being able to target enchantments.

That's basically it, the random bit doesnt matter.
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>>94811855
mono black enchantment-hate winter RIGHT NOW
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>>94811846
Black officially kills enchantments now. It is tertiary according to wotc.
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>>94811834
Sweet. I need to get my teshar deck back together.
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>>94811842
It's much worse than all of those cards. Well maybe not chrome mox, but I'm just surprised it's THAT expensive being only played in modern.
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>>94811876
>teshar
You're a cool guy anon. Teshar is fucking cracked.
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>>94811799
Tax-based counterspelling is considered part of white’s color pie. Tell me, how many of those have been printed?
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>chaos is NOT a part of red's color pie, no matter how you spin it!
Fucking retards man.
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>>94812022
Okay but enchantments explicitly ARENT in reds part of the pie anon so this is meaningless
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>>94812034
Yup. Same with "tax based counterspells". Bitch mana leak has been a card for eternity. There are like two colour pie breaks.
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Does Solemnity break Sagas? Since they technically use Lore Counters.
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>>94812047
Removing enchantments isn't in red's color pie. Acknowledging their existence, punishing players for having them, and interacting with your own is fine. They just don't do it often because enchantments aren't often a major theme.
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I can feel myself becoming slightly more gay.
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Is there ever a situation where you'd want to do this?
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>>94812137
Cathar's Crusade is probably the worst card in the entire game that is both very powerful yet an abaolute horrible nightmare to track.
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>>94811830
Red can't destroy enchantments but it can still ruin Enchantress's day.
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>>94812158
fixed cathars crusade just got released and is still relatively cheap. You should still proxy.
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>>94812158
Yep. My first are going to love me spending 5 minutes a turn just putting counters out.
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>>94812095
Yep. You cant put counters on them, they cant trigger.
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>>94812158
Several of my decks would benefit hugely from it, but I frankly can't be fucked to deal with it.
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>>94812118
>acknowledging their existence
Explain why it happens in less than 1% of red cards then anon?
>punishing players for having them
Literally one card lmao
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>>94812193
Less of a headache, but doesn't have synergy with this.
Love to run both Cathers and that room but I don't think I can make room in my deck
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>>94812158
it's a card that just works infinitely better in an online format
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>>94811834
Which commander cards are fitting for Gachimuchi themed custom proxies?
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>>94812214
Gays are less Gay than people playing All will be one. The red hoof of wincons.
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>>94812137
Yup, boros is pretty gay my friend.

>>94812153
The worst doomsday pile you've ever seen.
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>>94811245
Thank Christ it got reprinted then. The sooner they do away with that list the better.
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>>94812193
So, so much worse in Marath.
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>>94812207
>Literally one card lmao
Dockside, Aura Barbs, and Enchanter's Bane is three cards, anon. Printed across a pretty wide span of the game's history, even.
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>>94812250
We don't talk about banned cards here.
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>blue has no combat wincondit-
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>>94812251
Is that why we don't talk about your mom?
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>>94812222
There's the normal gay stuff, but let's skip that entirely. Maybe an epic struggle deck? I started looking up gruul commanders, as it is the gayest colour, but the whole exercise depressed me.
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>>94812158
Just have tokens and dice.
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>>94812257
You can do better than that.
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>>94812255
Blue has tons of combat wincons, the fuck are you on about?
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>>94812153
It sort of lets you look at the top four cards of your library at any time? In a round about way at least. And it lets you pick which you draw when you draw. It's not that bad I'd think.
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>>94812272
no they don't all blue players know how to do is draw card, counterspell, and jace win
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>>94812214
How does All Will Be One play out usually? I like the idea of ira effect and have been wanting to try and make something with it. Even considered trying this commander but I thought Bright Palms may be better since it places 1/1s itself.
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>>94811129
Red is the best color in EDH along with blue
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>>94812290
Sure thing anon, whatever you say.
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>>94812200
That's fucking hilarious
What if you play it while they already have counters? Will they just loop every turn?
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>>94812355
No, they'll just stop doing anything. You only get the chapter ability when the lore counter is added.
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>>94812355
Nothing will happen.
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>>94811129
If dockside cost 1RR or even RR it would not have been as broken as it was.
The problem with him was any deck that splashed red could use him as a ritual for any color.
Playing it in Mono R was probably the fairest way to use him
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>>94812291
If you build counters in red, it's absolutely devastating.
With harden scales, doubling Season etc you will be incredible damage per turn.
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>>94812158
Cathars Crusade and anything that grows tall/wide with n^2 should be digital only, especially for tokens and permanents
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>>94812250
Dockside DOESNT PUNISH ANYONE FOR HAVING ENCHANTMENTS YOU BENEFIT FOR THEM HAVING ENCHANTMENTS THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT. The point still stands lmao if you are describing a colour based on what TWO CARDS OIT OF 4300 DO then youre a fucking moron
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>>94812370
>>94812377
Awww
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>>94811225
Fuck yes. I will buy it if it's for less than $3
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>>94812402
>Dockside DOESNT PUNISH ANYONE FOR HAVING ENCHANTMENTS YOU BENEFIT FOR THEM HAVING ENCHANTMENTS THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT
Hello anon, in a versus format, your opponent's advantage is your disadvantage. I understand that today is literally your first day on Earth and it's all very confusing, so I hope that helps.
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>>94812438
This is such a stupid and blatantly incorrect view of the game sorry but you are wrong. No one is punished by playing Dockside
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Should I build Anhelo or Kalamax to be a spellslinger deck? Anyone here have any experience with either of them?
I like the sacrifice aspect of Anhelo but I like the swing at people aspect of Kalamax
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>>94812158
>>94812397
This is why I don't want to run Archangel of Thune but I feel like I am missing out by not using it
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>>94812452
>No one is punished by playing Dockside
Lmao
>if you play artifacts or enchantments, you basically hand me the win unless you can stop this ETB!
>not punishment
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>>94812488
Except that isnt how Dockside works.... very dishonest enjoy talking to yourself!
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>>94811129
Red gets Wheel, Jeskas, Swat, Copper Dragon, Blasphemous Act
I dont see the problem
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>>94811719
Guff but only for style
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>>94811129
I just don't like treasures and other chungus parasitic tokens
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>>94812494
>Except that isnt how Dockside works

>When Dockside Extortionist enters, create X Treasure tokens, where X is the number of artifacts and enchantments your opponents control.
That is, in fact, exactly how Dockside works.
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Reminder, if someone talks about how "dishonest" you are, abandon the conversation. It'll result in a 3 hour autism battle with a retard.
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>>94811129
>elesh norn
>Busted
Nigga what?
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>>94811719
Or maybe Sevinne
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>>94812543
It's his catchphrase
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>>94812495
>Wheel
Ah, yes, so many decks running a $350 RL card that gets outclassed by a blue uncommon.
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>>94812568
Among others, but by far the most obvious.
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>>94812585
But I'm not the anon you're referring to :) saying Dockside reads "win the game" is objectively incorrect and dishonest.
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>>94812608
And I had nothing to do with the conversation at all, but if hullbreacher was banned for "winning the game" you can draw your own conclusions.
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You're not getting another (You) over this. Try something else.
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I found my new favorite, useless as shit but amuses the fuck out of me pet land.
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>>94812622
Neither were banned for that reason! Dishonesty seems to be an /edhg/ staple i will be ignoring your replies as well
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>>94812632
Then go somewhere else.
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>>94812626
Not useless when you pair it with springjack shepherd my friend. In my white blink deck this pretty much reads "make infinite mana". Ima look at non white goat production cause I could maybe slot this into gollum actually lol
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Jesus would you just stop replying to him, he's not even putting in any effort to bait you. It's sad on both sides.
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>>94812646
>>94812624
>>94812543
When did this site get infested with libtard faggots lmao
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>>94812646
How do you feel about this card?
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>>94812632
Literally Google the reason.
You won't, so I'll save you the trouble. It created too many "giant swings" in the game as just one card. Even more if it's part of an engine.
So yes, you play Hullbreecher, the game swings wildly from your opponent winning the game, to you winning the game, and Dockside did the same thing.
So, you're wrong, and the only thing anyone needs to do to prove that fact is read the official statements behind the bans.
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>>94812693
>googled the reason
>Neither mention that the cards are auto wins
>anon comes back and pretends they are banned for being autowins
Very dishonest as I suspected you would be
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>>94811026
>Why is Izzet the best color combo?
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>94812698
So, you don't understand what a swing means?
Cool. Be ignorant I guess. No (you) for you.
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>>94812708
He's been at this for like a week. The best bet is to call him a retard, post a screengrab, and ignore him.
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considering Total Staple Death and removing all staples from my decks
might go as far as making sure each deck has a completely different 99 from the others (excepting basics)
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>>94812708
Be a man and reply to me lmao. I do, it doesn't mean auto win or anything like that despite what you want to pretend it does. Protip: hullbreacher ban reason doesn't even contain the word swing
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>>94812730
>I want to make bad decks because I hate good cards
Weird flex but okay.
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Actually the best U combat wincon
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All the cards that buff commanders....combined with TWO commanders!

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6868032#paper
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>>94812730
>Instead of Tefari's protection I will run Perch Protection!
Daring aren't we?
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>>94812170
Well...
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>>94812797
We Ride at Dawn seems like a fun card
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>>94811135
>a fucking snail
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>>94812797
Sup shitter. Much worse than either of your last two decks.
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>>94812797
scrap it and build Champions of Archery
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>>94811135
I have a Zurslide deck that is honestly kind of boring and I'm probably going to take it apart sometime
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Someday I will build a Winota deck with only artifact creatures and call it "Winota's Big Brown Beaters"
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>>94812797
Holy shit Vexilus Praetor is $20? Glad I bought a playset, but now I wish I bought more.
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>>94812859
What's the deal with snail? The one video I opened (the edhrec rant one I think) was so boring I didn't finish it. Yes, grabbing a complete list off edhrec is stupid, I don't need to listen to you whine for 15 minutes to know that.
I assumed the rest of his videos were generic "run more removal" lectures
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>>94812949
>Winota's got herself a big brown beater and she shows him all her friends
>One day she cast that big time eater, and cyclonic rift hit extraplanar lens
>Along came Blue with a stifle too and said "I recognize that smell."
>"It smells like 7 mana, that beater's going straight to hell"
>WAHOOO
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>>94812570
yes.
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>proxies
Discarded
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>>94812477
Flip a coin
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>>94813049
That smothering tithe is brilliant
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Why do pseuds like to say that tutors are progressively worse the more mana they cost. Thats true of literally everything in the game
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I know this probably isn't that good of a card, but that flavor text goes hard.
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>>94813122
are you 12?
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>need invasion of kaldheim for a deck
>decide to gamble on 4 packs and get it afterwards if no luck
>pull this
Orthion isn't worth anything but I literally have 3 of them proxied cause nowhere in my city or the online Canada stores I use have him and surge is just a juicy pull.
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>>94813128
Probably just low iq
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>>94813128
>>94813168
There's nothing wrong with being edgy or liking what you like.
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>>94813128
EdgeKino is kino
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>>94813189
>ooooweee I'm gonna stab you so good, I'm gonna stab you to death!
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>>94813176
it's okay to like bladedge the hedgehog, but it's not okay to express those feelings publicly
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>>94813122
Probably the most accurate effect-to-flavor text ratio never
>>94813220
Bold words for a man within stabbing distance
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>>94813220
You just need to embrace your inner edge.
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>>94813232
Sure it is. In fact, being unironically edgy, ironicially, is pretty cool at the moment. Like finding it neat and showing off that you do so. Larping as a mall ninja who will kill you with a katana and is a secret assassin was never cool, but liking and wearing a cannibal corpse shirt is fine.
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>>94811026
>Why is Izzet the best color combo?
Izzet chads, rise up
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When are the precons being spoiled?
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>>94813538
Next Tuesday is the premiere or whatever so some time after that
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post underrated pet cards

>one of the best creatures to put into play with my Kaalia deck because of the free extra trigger
>usually presents lethal to the entire table the following turn
>imo its a serious consideration in any deck that often gives its creatures haste
>costs only 40 cents
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>>94813598
>one of the best creatures to put into play with my Kaalia deck
Aside from the fact that you don’t get the trigger if you put it into play off of Kaalia, of course.
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>>94813415
>pokemon playmat
Gross.
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>>94813625
wrong, you do get the trigger, it enters into the battlefield attacking on the declare attackers step, which means the attack trigger goes onto the stack

if it DIDNT work like that, then the classic master of cruelties combo would be impossible
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>>94813640

Anon, you are incorrect
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>>94813640
>Although the creature you put onto the battlefield is an attacking creature, it was never declared as an attacking creature. This means that abilities that trigger whenever a creature attacks won't trigger when it enters the battlefield attacking.
In the future you can check Gatherer instead of just being wrong.
Master of Cruelties works because of the "and isn't blocked", which isn't determined until later in the combat step.
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lol i guess i successfully swindled my playgroup last week

i still asert throne is good cus at least its a second copy of Aurelia in the deck

>captcha: 0VPN
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>>94813640
Oh buddy. Did you think "reading the card explains the card"?
This game is made by hyper literal autists and there is a difference between "attacks" and "attacking". Should they errata is to "is declared as an attacker"? Absolutely. But they never will, and now you get to enjoy explaining this retarded technicality to new players.
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>>94813721
I'm still waiting on a game because of this fucking card. It's been years. Make up your goddamned mind!
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>>94813742
>Floral Spuzzem may choose
so so so based
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>>94813721
>This game is made by hyper literal autists and there is a difference between "attacks" and "attacking".
Reminder to everyone that this game is so retarded they had it as a rule for DECADES that saying the word "combat" actually means "go to declare attacks step" and not "go to beginning of combat step" and for the longest time everyone just accepted this as normal. They have played us for absolute fools.
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>>94813742
>>94813837
So how do you resolve this? Ouija board?
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>>94813840
It's honestly amazing that this game has endured as it has. It's got so many design flaws you'd think it would have been superseded long ago.
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>>94813864
Oracle text.
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>>94813864
My friends and I all have a little ceremony where we parade the Floral Spuzzem around the shop trying to determine its will
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>>94813864
I dont know, one day it will choose. Maybe. I hope.

>>94813873
Coward.
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>>94811026
>TQ
Because you can add green to it to make the real best color combo
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>>94813883
anything Simic is aids
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>>94813598
For me it's blue's 2 mana recurring Ravenous Chupacabra. You target somebody's commander with this and they WILL send it back to the command zone. If for some ungodly reason they're stupid enough to to take the suspend ride you've killed their commander for multiple turns and have a queued up removal on them when your creature comes back. Unlike a lot of other cards that kill stuff you can pop this on someone right out the gate and it will come creeping back later when you need it to do it again.
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>>94813166
I’ll bite, what deck did you need Invasion of Kaldheim for?
Thinking of picking one up myself
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Mail call
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>>94811026
>Why is Izzet the best color combo?
But Izzet really the best?
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>>94813946
Faggot shit
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>>94813938
My Calamity deck i want to win with this dude
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Cool new card
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So did anything for the racing set get posted yet?
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>>94811026
>Niv got to keep his dragon snout while Bolas got hit with a tire iron and got stuck with the dragon equivalent of a pug face
I do not understand.
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>>94814022
no actually following backlash they decided to cancel it entirely. Don't worry about it
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>>94813946
Nice bro. Whatcha buildan?
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>>94814041
I fucking wish.
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>>94813995
Could be a good boardwipe in Xenagod
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Do we normally get a list of what's in the precons before they come out?
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Guys, I don't know how to tell you this, but I just checked Mark Rosewater's early life section. It's as bad as you thought.
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>>94813995
Shit's bad. The wipe part is fine, everything after that is flavor text. If your creature has whither or infect it gets a lot spicier. Might be able to use it with like sac loops and ashnods.
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>>94813864
Put the spuzzem next to the artifact in question and let it read it. It will decide.
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>>94813742
I'm assuming you have to both have Floral Spuzzem declare attack AND have Floral Spuzzem not be blocked to trigger the effect of Floral Spuzzem destroying an artifact
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>>94813946
Whatever post track it's taking, I've ordered the flipcard Sheoldred on December 20th and it's still not in. Supposed to be 12 days on average delivery time.
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>>94814077
no, we don't know any of the new cards until after the product releases
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To be fair to the anon, Master of Cruelties working with Kaalia while others don't is pretty dumb. Once the rule is explained to you, it makes sense. Creatures don't get their attack triggers if they're placed into play attacking. This is a sensible rule.

But then Master of Cruelties gets to be the exception. The given reason for the exception is not satisfying. The card clearly states "whenever he attacks a player and isn't blocked", which references "When he attacks" as well as "and isn't blocked", meaning the picking and choosing which part of that sentence matters is unintuitive. Most logical players would say "well the triggers clearly states it's when he attacks and isn't blocked", but then the judge has to explain "well the first part is ignored, don't worry that the card clearly states when he attacks, only pay attention to the second part" which is unintuitive.
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>>94814084
>drawing cards is flavor text

red players are literally too stupid to breathe
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>>94814084
Nah it's a good card
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>>94813742
The Spuzzem does as he pleases.
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>>94814135
Well what else would they say? If it just said “when Master of Cruelties isn’t blocked, opponent gets 1 life” which would be a hilarious state based ability. “When Master of Cruelties is attacking and isn’t blocked…” is a bit strange as well
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>>94811126
>Retard Anon mad his friend isn't also retarded
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>>94813946
I really like Trample Over Planeswalkers.
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>>94814166
is there a reason it couldn't have been "when master of cruelties would deal combat damage to an opponent, prevent that damage and that player's life total becomes 1"?
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>>94811129
>CycRift
>Forbid
>Pact of Negation
>Oppo Agent
>Sheoldred
>Tergrid
>Elesh Norn
>"busted"
Thanks for the laugh.
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>>94811868
And it always should have. Every single permanent type should have 3 colors that can hard remove them, and Black was severely lacking in this department despite being one of the "main" removal colors (lol).
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>>94814138
Yes, it is. You spent 5 mana to wipe the board, you only draw when your things die, and you have to play them that turn or they're exiled. That's not fantastic unless you're comboing out with some aristocrats loop or something.
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How important is it for a deck to have a cohesive strategy? My Windgrace deck is just landslop and I’m wondering if I need to rethink it
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>>94814317
In a hypothetical of no one interacting (removal/counters/other) with you, how many turns would it take for you to k/o 3 players?
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what is your most retarded deck? this shit so stupid and my buddies can't stop it
>enchantress shell
>pillowfort up with all the slow the game cards
>stack up on damage doublers
>stack up on warstorm surge effects
>stack up on double etb effects
>spam all the white 3 mv revive card
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Anything major I should keep my eye out for when upgrading my Endless Punishment precon?
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>>94814317
Paramount. It's the first thing you should do when you build a deck.
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>>94814332
how does one go about determining this
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>>94814366
A lot of goldfishing.
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>>94814284
>you have to play them that turn or they're exiled

I'm begging magic players to learn how to fucking read
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>>94814358
go to edhrec retard
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>>94812137
What the fuck is up with your nail friendo?
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>>94812690
I think that art is gorgeous
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>>94813963
Timmy really pounded you last game huh?
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>>94814055
Thrasta is for flubs and ghalta is for sekkuar
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>>94814111
I just demand a refund/resend after 30 days spoiler[it usually shows up right after I do that netting me free cards[/spoiler]
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>>94814337
>ramp alot and bribe my way through early game
>spread some damage around too, because of "group hug" she can give any creature the buff PLUS flying (any game with early Duelist Heritage is a fast GG)
>loaded the list up with 25 pieces that interact with my opponents in some way, ranges from simple combat-steal-tricks, counterspells, trickbind and to busted stuff like Galadriel's Dismissal
>low curve, i easly cantrip through my deck
>all while beating down left and right
>my only deck with combos, out of fear of durdling too much much

i just wanted to mitigate and account for the free cards i give out, but i overshot it and it became "draw all you want, fuck you gon' do?", and it became a monster i pretty much never play.
My old list had Nadu in it, the game was pretty much over once he hit the board, and its a good thing he got hit by the banhammer
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>>94812137
Your thumb looks like a toe
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>8 cards of ramp
>all but 2 of them are pretty damn jank
I might be both under doing it and over doing it
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>>94814456
As long as it doesn't look like a penis
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>>94814468
what are you playing that 8 pieces of ramp is "overdoing it"?
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>>94814402
Oh no, you have it for one extra turn. Doesnt make it that much better.
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>>94814480
A deck with an average mana curve of 4.
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>>94814188
That would be instakill if you cast Skullcrack or something.
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do you guys ever play table top sim for commander, how did you find games
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>>94814284
>you have to play them that turn or they're exiled.
Until the end of your NEXT turn, retard-kun.
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>>94814490
post your deck list, if the average mana value is 4 you should be running significantly more ramp
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>>94814487
it makes it significantly better, are you stupid?
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>>94814504
He was making a joke.

>>94814501
I already acknowledged I fucked up anon, but that doesnt change my opinion.
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So is Capricious Efreet a break? I've never really heard anyone talk about it, but it was somewhat widely played back in the day.
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>>94814468
>hmmm, this ramp piece is pretty damn jank
reddit gtfo
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>>94814514
>He was making a joke.
Was I?
>>94814504
I was mistaken, it was another deck that have 4, this one's is 2.88
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>>94814526
sexy curve, what's the deck?
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>>94814534
Just a low level deck for playing with friends from my junk pile after not playing for awhile, don't remember what is meant to "feel right" for ramp.
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>>94814524
this is the worst creature I've ever seen in my life, wtf
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>>94814453
Gal seems actually insane. Triggers off every spell and if you cast two spells you don't even lose card advantage. Everybody was sleeping on her until she calls the Phyrexian infiltrator
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>>94814487
It makes it substantially better, actually. In what world is “Draw 5 cards, discard 5 cards at the end of your next turn” a bad thing?
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>>94814564
Thanks for your input, Timothy.
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One more paycheck, and my deck is finally """"""finished"""""
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>>94814514
>completely misread and therefore improperly analyze a card
>durrrr my opinion remains the same
Fucking retarded it's removal and draw on the same card at a good rate
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>>94814661
>maybeboard a mile long
I'm not sure my deck will ever be finished
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>Watching some guy at the LCS lose his mind because his Lorcana collection he was trying to sell to the store because he was "broke" was mostly all fake.
Man. Kinda sad. Shouldn't have been playing Lorcana though. Get out of my way I gotta drop 200 on cards I'll never use.
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>>94814718
I hope the shop kept the fakes to dispose of properly. Wouldn't want those circulating in the local market.
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>>94814695
My decks are never finished. They are constantly evolving.
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Bros should I get Mcdonald's or chinese tonight?
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>want to build a Ghryson Starn deck
>having trouble thinking of a way to make it good without going into combo shit and making everyone hate me
>remember I was thinking about Nekusar too and Starn can fit in there
>remember that sick Riddick art
Alright so what's a good and funpilled way to build him that doesn't turn into pure cancer? Forced draw and burn is obvs gonna be the theme but I don't wanna use anything super obnoxious like Narset or Parun Niv.
Besides Bowmemes and Kederekt Parasite, what are some other good ping-slingers?
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>>94811026
>Why is Izzet the best color combo?
It includes the two strongest colors with no chaff.
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>>94814800
Both sound yummy. Chinese is a bit more expensive
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>>94814820
I know, which is why I'm leaning toward McDonald's. Can't beat those app deals, but it always leaves me so bloated and shitty feeling...
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>>94814800
McDicks, I'm craving some french fries
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>>94814800
What would the commander deck be for McDonald's or Chinese takeout?
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>>94814826
Eat less of it, then, fatty.
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>>94814871
Tatyova is the McDonald's of commanders. She's cheap, easy, and everyone has had her.
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>>94814826
It do be causing gas
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>>94814818
>Red and Blue have no chaff
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>>94814919
The other colors are the chaff in this scenario, explaining why Izzet is superior to other combinations including UR, such as Grixis.
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>>94814801
Wanna be a memelord? Add in Ian Malcolm, Chaotician.
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>>94814919
>having this little reading comprehension
In this case, the "chaff" would be one or more additional colors.
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>>94814678
>>94814579
I'd rather have my creatures, to be frank. Like I said initially, if you're using it to combo out or in a token deck it's fine, otherwise the trade isnt really worth it for the hypothetical impulse draw.
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>>94814913
But aren't traditionally chinese dishes meant to be shared?
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>Just found out white has a 0 sided, instant speed board wipe
why didn't anyone tell me
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>>94814946
i have yet to find a grixis commander i truly enjoy, it does feel very much like color soup
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>>94814973
What exactly is a 0-sided boardwipe? "Regenerate all creatures"?
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Counterspells should be a White thing
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>>94815053
Phyrexians should be a Black thing exclusively, unless they're colorless (artifacts)
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>>94815053
Don't be daft
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>>94815053
Only if ramp is a black thing, and enchantment synergy is a blue thing.
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>>94815053
Mommy Norn should be my thing
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>>94815053
This
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>>94812137
Stop chewing your nails my man.
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>>94815089
nta but it's fucking hard man. Quitting smoking was easier.
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>>94815089
I play magic, I ain't got anyone to impress with my nails.
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I'm someone who loves stax and have become the stax guy at my store. I am embarking on my next personal challenge of building a stax deck of each color combo, do you guys have suggestions for commanders? I already have winota for boros and karn for colorless built
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>>94812222
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>>94815097
Tatyova Lands Stax
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>>94813049
Amazing tithe
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Remember when everyone said this was gonna be op and it hasn't even made a splash
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>>94815097
Urza is the avatar of stax. I also run yawgmoth with like pox, koskun falls and smokestack at a lower power level.
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>>94815101
I love this card so much, game ender with pic related all the time
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>>94815154
No one said that. Whisper seemed like it had some potential.
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>>94815154
Casting spells as though they had flash is overrated in general
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>>94815171
I disagree, but the cost is 1U and it draws you a card.
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>>94815053
Counter spells that tax you should be a white thing. White shouldnt get a straight up counterspell
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>>94815162
Is there a way to blink that lil nibba?
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>>94815193
Recursion and getting him back in my hand, I have to make a list of all the cards
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>>94815206
>I have to make a list of all the cards
Make it so.
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>>94814317
>>94814332
>>94814363
Looked through the deck and it's got roughly five strategies going on. Landfall Tokens, Scapeshift/Valakut Combo, Borborigmos/Frog Combo, ramp into a big Exsanguinate (will replace Banefire with a Torment of Hailfire when I find where I hid mine), or MLD with a Splendid Reclamation type effect on hand
Each of these kind of work together, since ramping feeds them all and the damage ones can act as removal in a pinch, but this does seem unfocused now that I have it all laid out
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>>94812222
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>>94815193
>>94815206
I just get him out like turn 4 or 5 and with a little burn added, people have whacked each other enough that I can kill the whole table with Bonds of Agony
>>94815209
gimme a min
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>>94815171
>He all in attacked?
Flash in ze sunblast angel
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>>94815053
White should have pic related as the standard template for its own counter spells. Blue counterspells just get rid of the spell, White just delays/taxes it.
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Are there any commanders that deal with having/creating a comically large number of food/treasure/junk/blood/clue tokens? Bonus points if it doesn't focus on one type and uses all/most of them. I've got all these cards that create a bunch of them and no good commander to utilize a giant pile of cards that I can point to and be like "behold! My STUFF"
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>>94815230
>White should only ever have weaker versions of other color effects, yet blue gets to steal Vigilance and Phasing
Oh hi Mark
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>>94815237
Just pick a Golgari food commander and toss in academy manufactor
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is this fish based
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>>94815237
actually picrel
And what are some other good "puzzle" commanders?
Built Brudiclad for a friend a while back, and it feels like assembling your board piece by piece, keeping every opponent on their toes with misdirection and interaction for their interaction, and finding a perfect window to drop Brudiclad and let some absolute token shenanigans happen.
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>>94815293
oh good lord lol. Yes something dumb like that is perfect. Another idea I had would've been like "sacrifice X artifacts to do something big"
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>>94815237
Literally any simic commander
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>always keep my eye out for potentially good ebay buys
>find seller offering "every pack is a winner" 5 card repacks of mythics and rares for roughly $3 bucks each after shipping
>claims that every pack they're will absolutely have at least one card that would pay for the pack itself
>skeptical but decide to roll the dice and see what's what
>worse case scenario I'm out a coffee
>pack arrives
>almost 14 bucks worth of cards in it

Well if their strategy was to give me one good pack to tempt me into buying the rest of the packs they're selling it worked.
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>>94815242
>Blue gets to steal phasing
Not only did white steal that from blue, but white has the best phase out cards by a mile
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>>94815230
>>94815053
>>94815242
>>94815308
Mana Leak should be White
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>>94815305
nice booba
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>>94815290
Yes actually. That's a stax fish.
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>>94815290
Anything that prevents counterspell turds from ruining my plan is based
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>>94815017
Living Death, but you use it when everyone has ton of shit in the bin. Or you're the only one who doesn't.
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>>94815290
I have a friend my plagroup who LOVES blowout spells. Its basically all the interaction he runs. Aethersprout, target-changers, Galadriel's dismissal, arachnogenesis and etc, he loves cards that completely fuck over someone who has been building their board for the entire game or trying to use a single big win-con and honestly i might start running these kind of cards in every deck of mine that can use them. Although there's literally only seven of them in the game and they're colored so can't go into any deck, so you can't really expect to have them every game.
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>>94815438
Dude sounds pretty based, other than running UBshit.
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Urami never had an actual card correct? I see some proxies online but I can't seem to find anything official
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>>94815457
He's insufferable to play with. Every one of his decks are about generating card draw engines and turbo ramp until inevitably he has so many cards and mana that interacting wiht him becaomes impossible because of his blowout cards and counterspells. Every single game begins by the other three players trying to kill him as soon as possible but sometimes someone else gets a good start which leads to him winning because he didn't get focused down soon enough
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>>94815317
So should all magic players
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>>94815438
Bro? Your counterspell?
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>>94815502
Due to the inherent restrictions of the format not every deck has blue in it
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>>94815209
I'll get it into moxfield or something eventually but hate typing in the cards. Haven't played in a while and it turns out theres not even that much recursion. I just jammed a bunch of goad, burn, and stuffilike cards in there and it hasn't failed me yet
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>>94815511
Every color has counterspell
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>>94813239
How does Pox win?
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>>94815531
>the meme mogis

I'm sorry you have to use that. Or I fucking hate you if that was your choice.
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>>94815550
Veil of Summer does literally nothing against all cards mentioned in the post you quoted
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>>94815461
Correct. Scryfall always puts the official tokens on the card's page. Check this comparison
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>>94812626
it's the goat
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>>94815461
It's mtgo like many tokens
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>>94815467
Bro? Your Grand Abolisher? Your price of glory? Your mana geyser? Your jeska's will? Your silence? Your armageddon? Your price of progress? Your wave of vitriol? Your dosan? Your blood moon? Instead of getting grumpy about him not letting you craw wurm him to death why don't you use some of the hundreds of cards available in every color that hard counters people that play like that?
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>>94815562
I got it because it was cheap as hell, and the absolute bitchfits the font alone has caused along with the rest of the deck have been very funny but I like the new one form foundations a lot so will be switching him out
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>>94815568
Happy?
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>>94815467
Post one of your decks
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>>94814337
>picrel+Rowan who is much less important overall
>deck is entirely built around the -2 cost reduction to spam reality scramble
>deck contains planeswalkers who have the option to either generate 2+ mana or card advantage to draw lands to continue the polymorph loop
>the game becomes more miserable for everyone else if they snipe my wincons and I have to resort to create-a-combo
I ended up taking it apart because I couldn't meaningfully change the deck without ruining its identity. It was amazing for goldfishing and keeping me sharp on my combo game, but it was an absolute glass cannon that lived and died on the one turn it tried to combo.
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opinions?
red chads only plz
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>>94815682
good
bad art but playable
ub is cancer tho
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>>94815710
Idk I think i like that print more than new capenna. Devil in a silly british hat aint quite hitting either
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>>94815682
Good card shitty printing
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>>94815682
It's ass for my Commander, was cut from list before it was even completed. I hate Equipments/Auras that give the ability to the creature, rather than have it themselves. Couldn't use The Reaver Cleaver for the same reason.
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>>94815682
>>94815710
is it just me or are mono colored decks more based?
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>>94815736
if by based you mean boring
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>>94815635
> pic
Wtf
What was the original??
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>>94815511
Here's your options:
Blue
>lol
White
>Grand Abolisher
Green
>City of Solitude
Red
>Hand to Hand
Black and Eldrazi
>Conquerer's Flail
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>>94815736
Dual is okay, but tri-color and higher decks are autistic nonsense and a major design mistake. There's a reason why newer TCGs try to limit that degeneracy to 2 colors at most.
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>>94815866
EDH was designed for 3c. 4c+ is the mistake!!!
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>>94815866
>3 colors in elder dragon highlander is an autistic mess
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>>94815682
As a man who won't play a deck if it doesn't include red, my opinion is that it's Universes Beyond and therefore doesn't get a slot.
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>>94815941
Autism
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>>94815866
>game was created with 3c generals
>could literally ONLY run one of the 3 elder dragons, all are 3c
>major design mistake
You fucking whippersnappers need to get off my fucking lawn.
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>>94816032
5 elder dragons bad eyesight and dumb fingers from old age is fuckin me up fight me
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>>94815941
Uhh dude?
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Im addicted to buying cards on TCG player.
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>>94816065
I have 23 decks, 99%+ of my cards are from buying singles on TCG. I keep finding a new idea/commander and going "holy shit that's neat af" and hyperfixating on it send help
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>>94816065
my LGS offers prices that are only a few percent higher than TCGplayer, and gives the best deal in the area on trade-ins, so I usually buy/trade from there and save on shipping
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>>94815230
I would say white's counters should be place on the top of the library rather than back in the hand. Force people to waste their mana and a turn drawing the spell again.
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>>94816159
The trick is to autistically search through all the shops that give free shipping on orders over $5 and have like 8 fucking packages/envelopes coming in the mail over a 30+ day period. No it isn't stressful at all waiting 3 weeks for the last batch of cards to come in don't worry about it.
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Anyone mind if I post some custom cards here for feedback?
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>>94816303
A lot of people aren't against the idea, only the execution. Too many cards are like "pay 2 mana for this incredibly one-sided thing that instantly wins the game" and it's just boring and dumb. It's extremely rare to see a custom card like pic rel that does something new and interesting that people genuinely enjoy
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>Back Way Home
>GB
>Sorcery
>Search your library for a land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
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>>94816303
Anybody who would mind is a faggot, so you can ignore them. Are you building a set or just realizing something with Magic mechanics?
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>>94816303
Yes, please make your own thread. Hundreds of posts about hypothetical cards isnt cool

>>94816328
Come on anon, why you gotta be this way?
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>>94815237
Piggybacking off this idea: I've wanted to make a "literal junk yard" style deck for so long but I can't figure out how to do it. I'd buy like.. 50 or so junk token cards and fold/crumple them up and just pile them up in front of my creatures, and the theme would be something like "you have to get past the junkyard to attack me" via Propaganda effects (pay 1 for each artifact I have, or something like that). Dogmeat is the only commander that has enough colors (and can reliably create junk) to make it work but I just don't care for auras/equipment at all. And I don't wanna run something like Brudiclad because the junk isn't supposed to attack, just be a barrier that protects me
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>>94816328
Here's one
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>>94815736
Yes, it's as god intended. You have drawbacks and strengths. You need to search magic history for specific cards that do what you need. The commanders are more flavorful. Really, if you dont play a monocolour you arent playing edh.>>94815745
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>>94816369
I like it, but why does it have split second?
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>>94816369
Are you even trying? This is why we dont allow custom cards.
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>>94816384
Because you're not really able to control the X value as well as you could with a traditional card with this effect, and boardwipes based on that tend to suck.
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>>94816396
Pernicious deed is one of the best sweepers ever, you dont know what you're talking about. Even 2W: destroy all creatures 2cmc and below with split second is so busted it'd see legacy play, then you tacked on a bunch of bullshit on top of that.
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>>94816406
1 mana put all creatures on the bottom of their owner's library barely sees Legacy play in one specific deck.
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>>94816416
Yes, because top was banned. Before that it was one of the strongest decks in magic.
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>>94816416
Because it isn't an instant. Hell, it's barely a sorcery. There's a world of difference between what you posted and a Miracled Terminus.
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>>94816431
Top was banned literally years before the first Miracle card was printed.
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>>94816440
Lolno. Regardless, this significantly worse card sees play on ocassion and that split second card is 10 times as good.
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>>94816437
It is an instant in Legacy.
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>>94816450
Pest Control isn't even in the top 10 boardwipes that are explicitly orzhov.
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>>94816459
I mean, I guess you have to post the list. Pest control does see occasional legacy play, WB is just a difficult mana cost without a deck to play it in.
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JAAAGE! If I have future sight out, and cast and copy mystical tutor, can I cast the card off the top before the second mystical tutor resolves? Assuming its an instant of course
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>>94816475
Yes, I'm pretty sure you can.
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IS there a site that lets you build decks with your collection as easily as MTGA?
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Does anyone else legitimately hate certain cards? I view Sol Ring (especially due to its "must include" status) as one of the worst cards in commander. I've played a fuckin Pact of Negation on turn 2 to counter it because I hate that card so much
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>>94816481
But why though?
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>>94816481
I hate every single card with cascade/discover/etc. I hate every single card that lets you play cards from the opponent's deck. I hate every single card that exiles cards facedown.
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>>94816480
>with your collection
>easily
Pick one. The problem here is that you have to manually fucking input *your entire goddamned collection* into a website/system for something like that to even work. And like fuckin hell I'm gonna spend 50+ hours typing every card I own into something like that
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>>94816485
I did that with moxfield
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>>94816479
Thank you. Coming back to this game after a long break and trying to de rust on my stack rules
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>>94816483
1 generic mana to create 2 mana??? Fucking bonkers ass bullshit. I've played so many fucking games where someone Sol Rings into a fucking Arcane Signet/other mana rock on turn 1, and wow cool great congrats you have 5 fucking mana on turn 2 wow that's so neat wow oh awesome now I'm 3 turns behind, such an innofuckingvation
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>>94816437
Miracle ignores timing restrictions retard
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>>94816470
This was the reference I used.
https://scryfall.com/search?q=function%3Asweeper+id%3Dwb&order=edhrec&as=grid&unique=cards
Right now there's only one deck with orzhov access at all with a presence in Legacy, which doesn't even side Pest Control. (In Modern, Meltdown, a card that's XR, is only seeing niche sideboard play).
My main point of comparison when designing the card was Displacement Wave, which is genuinely awful in a color that's even worse at removal. I have never seen anyone even consider this card for play.
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>>94816437
>Because it isn't an instant
The card itself is a sorcery, but Miracle triggers at instant speed. Congrats you don't know how the card works.
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>>94816480
This but also isn't on some website server or can at least back up your data
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>>94816481
Cards that are free to cast on their own without needing something else enabling them (Deflecting Swat, Fierce Guardianship).

Tutors.

Cards that could have just had a pre-existing mechanic stapled onto them but instead are FIRE'd to be outright better (eg How Slickshot's +2/+0 is just better than standard Prowess).

Cards with types that have no business existing (like how every cat from leonin to a house cat is just Cat but then we have Warrior, Soldier, Knight, Samurai etc arbitrarily assigned to anyone in armor or with a weapon).

Rare/Mythic cards that are overcosted, and Common/Uncommons that are undercosted.

Planeswalkers.
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>>94816565
And also doesn't scrape your data
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>>94816481
I genuinely hate this card with all my being. It genuinely elicits a greater reaction from me than the dozens of cards that should be banned but aren't.
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>>94816620
I will die on the hill that all tutors should be banned in commander. What the fuck is the point of creating a 100 card singleton deck if you're just gonna tutor for the same fucking cards/combo every game??
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>>94816630
Well uhm *fingers asshole* giving my deck good targets for Crop Rotation is a deckbuilding cost! Yeah! Running good lands is totally a cost!
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>>94816635
Small hole in my argument: land tutors/ramp spells are perfectly fine. I just hate decks that have an infinite/bullshit combo as a wincon and relies on drawing one of 15 or so tutor cards to actually pull it off
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>>94816620
>Lion
Cat
>Tiger
Cat
>A leopard man
Meow meow kitty cat
Meanwhile beasts have been fragmented into 9001 creature types and dogs, wolves, and jackals apparently need their own separate types
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>>94816647
Land tutors that don't specify a type are extremely good because as it turns out there's actually a lot of good lands now.
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>>94816628
Why it's just kind of a meh card?
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>>94816628
this is bad, do you hate it because it's bad?
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>>94816666
>>94816667
Colossal flavor fail and the card is total dogshit both conceptually and in powerlevel. Character featured on it is actually two different characters smashed into one, and one of them was one of the most iconic characters in the game. Complete waste of a mythic slot and a squandered opportunity with both characters.
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I only play gruul stompy and now people want me to play pauper with them. Does anyone here play pauper and if so could you give me some advice? Apparently pauper doesn't have the giant 7-drops I'm used to playing, nor does it have the mega ramp I use to get there.
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Land tutors aren't fine
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>>94816303
Post away faggot, though if you have dozens/hundreds start your own thread. Give us a sample of your best 1-3 efforts, that's all we'll need to know if you got card making talent or not.
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Oh shit are we posting custom cards?
Rate my partner pair.
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Playing with Moxfield. Chatterfang + cards in my collection that say "token" + not enough lands to play them, what could go wrong?
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>>94816769
>not enough lands to play them
You have 21 lands and I guarantee you nothing in your deck costs 21 mana. You'll be fine.
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>>94816713
They aren't, they're more than fine! Same with all tutors. Fags who bitch about tutoring should just go play a different game.
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>>94816779
t combo player
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>>94816779
>I am completely incapable of building a functioning deck and need to cheat out cards to win games
Yes, we know.
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>>94816652
The wolf/dog divide especially pisses me off because there are tons of wolves I'd love to throw into my Rin and Seri deck but you can't because wolves and dogs are totally different species with zero genetics in common, but an anthropomorphic humanoid with the head of a lion is indistinguishable from a house cat, or a tiger, or a felidar. Some of the dev nonsense in this game is baffling.
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Every card that isn't a vanilla creature, an underpowered/overcosted utility creature, or a combat trick should be banned.
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>Chosen of Death
>Legendary Creature- Human Avatar
>3WBR
>If this creature would be sacrificed instead put a +1/+1 counter on it.
>1/1

Too broken?
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>>94816792
>cheat out cards
What does this even mean?
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>>94816786
>t. person who plays magic
no... not like this! There's too many cards that search for various things under various conditions to bitch about it without being stupid and poor deckplanning.
>>94816792
I don't know anon, last I checked it's legal text on a legal card. Doesn't sound like cheating to me.
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>>94816795
I started playing in '95, I find present-day Magic to be straight up disgusting most times. Cards with like 9 fucking lines of text that do several things all triggering off different things and 10 minute long turns is objectively awful.
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>>94816799
Yes it's beyond broken. Not only does the wording need to be cleaned up, but it would go infinite with any sac outlet that doesn't need to be tapped/paid for. It would need either a once per turn clause or something else to prevent a player from just saccing it to Phyrexian Altar for a million billion counters and mana.
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2#
Shatterfang
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi Warrior
Voidwalk (Can't be blocked if defending player has a land that taps for colorless)
Whenever you create a token you may create a 1/1 Eldrazi Scion token instead.
B/G: Sac X Eldrazi to give something +X/-X until end of turn.
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>>94816799
A+B card with any sac outlet
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>>94816816
me too
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Yep. 5/5 for 7 mana or 4 or 5 mana and a huge drawback.
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>>94816715
I'm an awful judge of quality so here's three ones with different themes
>Sorcery speed draw source
>Silly card that would ironically be a cEDH staple
>Commander
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>>94816819
Yeah, that's what I thought. I actually want it to be a stupid combo piece that can go infinite, but doing that while still being reasonable is surprisingly hard. Maybe bump it up to 8 CMC and have it enter tapped.
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>>94816852
>Arthur, Once and Future
When are we going to get the inevitable Fate crossover?
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>>94816865
Plausible, honestly. Much like every other crossover WotC is doing that series hasn't produced anything of value in years but people still vaguely remember it.
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>>94816766
OCN001 would probably need a mandatory green pip since its effect is based on Abundance. It's also a bit undercosted at only 2 mana. Aside from that it's pretty interesting.
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>>94816855
Black has all sorts of tools to sneak big creatures in. Even the newest of newbs could figure out something like entomb+reanimate. CMC is irrelevant to combofags, and entering tapped wouldn't stop anything since it's power won't be from swinging but from counter/sac abuse.

A card that can be infinitely sacced on its own would be a day 1 ban no matter how it was costed or what other benefits it added. Even playing "fair" as soon as it's in play with a Blood Artist or Grave Pact effect the game is over.

Sorry bro but I give the idea a 0/10.
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>>94813000
any yootoobers that do EDH content only are despicable cringe with the highest chance of presenting absolute shit takes by default
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>>94816620
>>94816481
Damn this thread is full of whiny faggots guy actually has a full on list yeesh
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>>94816713
All tutors are fine but I do find the "no tutors except land tutors" people hilarious like, lands are the strongest cards in the game
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>>94816827
>durrrr me old player (larp) me only like no words on cards
>remember when cards had no words!!!!
>every card in the first 3 years of this game looked like this
Drop the act
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>>94817861
Art went so much harder back then too to match the text



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