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>Previous Thread:
>>94822167

>Thread Question:
What shade of bronze will you be painting your Flawless Blades' accents with
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>>94825186
>TQ
Nothing cuz I don't play crummy chaos losers only chad necrons & guardsmen
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Do these... look better in person? It looks like something people made out of plasticard. I dont know how to describe it but its like youre being ripped off for buying this over a great unclean one or a primarch
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Why doesn't someone win a duel with Lucius then immediately get put in stasis. There's enough crazy space Marines who would do it.
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Are the upgrade kit getting worse and why in the holy fuck do they all come with just 1 helmet? It should be 3-4 helmets.
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T'au fans stroking it to this
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>>94825202
The only good way to get an ork knight was the stompa in that large box they sold awhile back.
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>>94825203
You think everyone in the setting knows how his bullshit works?
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>>94825203
Just send someone who feels really guilty about taking human life to nuke the planet Lucius is on from orbit so he doesn't know he's killed Lucius.
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>>94825206
Can you bang that Y hole?
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>>94825206
faceussy
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>>94825203

Slaanesh would just get bored, respawn him somewhere anyway, the new Lucius would hear about this dickhead locked away, let him out and become Lucius, then fight him. Like I'm not even joking. This is a real plot that will 100% be written if it hasn't already.
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>>94825203
>Why doesn't someone-
Because you touch yourself at night.
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>>94825214
No, because she is a fictional character.
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They're not really going to make rainbow daemons extinct, are they

Force every Daemons player to split his army up into chunks that can't ever be used together again
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>>94825212
Has to be a duel for the flesh switch thing to happen. If he dies inconsequentially he just respawns.
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>>94825214
That's what the ethereals do to cuck the Gue'vesa.
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>>94825212
It'd skip to the nuke builder, the one who ordered the nuking, or someone along the chain of command who took pride in Lucius' death, aware of it or not. Stasis is the only solution really
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>>94825221
No that's a T'au
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>>94825203
because trying to game the system is how you get the chaos gods to cheat
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>>94825186
Wtf why did they prune lucius's face like this
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1 it's hard to beat him in an actual duel
2 he doesn't actually die a lot in 1v1s. He's just super reckless and dies to landmines and stray fire
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>>94825186
>Thread Question
Wouldn't a light brass be a better choice?
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>>94825224
>he doesn't know
Anon, there's a whole short story about him respawning into a guy who works at a landmine factory.
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>>94825203
character dataslates with their listed abilities aren't a thing in universe
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>>94825222
Demons are ugly anyways. They need to properly update them in 11e.
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>make super amazing duellist character
>his gimmick is that he loses over and over
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>>94825202
>Do these... look better in person?
Not really
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>>94825241
He also spawned out of a Necron warrior that tapped him
You know the soulless generic skelebot
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>>94825245

>orks are a melee faction
>I2
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EC look just ok. Ive been waiting for years to see them, eagerly, and theyre not awful, but I'm just disappointed in GW's inability to make anything actually amazing anymore
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>>94825202
No. You can make something better
They look like dogshit
The stompa looks impressive though
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LUCIUS TONGUES MY ANUS
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>>94825222
maybe they'll get the aos treatment where there are chaos marauder warbands, chaos warrior warbands, and chaos daemons. Who knows, there's no point in being upset when it hasn't happened yet
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>>94825186
>tq
probably ttc ancient gold, it's my new favourite metallic
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>>94825222
It seems like it. Demons as their own army are mostly just various flavors of fragile melee infantry, big melee monsters, and some piddly ranged units scattered here and there that have no synergy with each other. It's probably for the best that the tiny rosters of 3 of the 4 cult legions get combined with their god aligned demons who don't really function well as a standalone army.
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>>94825254
Rip your anus.
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>>94825260
based and goblin greenpilled
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>random vampire character in 40k vs random vampire character in AoS
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>>94825251
>but I'm just disappointed in GW's inability to make anything actually amazing anymore
In your opinion what notable amazing releases have GW made in the past and what aspects of them do you think make them stand out?
I'm genuinely curious, because were at the point in CAD to plastic model design where pretty much any model (provided the sculptor cares) can be a masterpiece.
>Captcha: WG4Y
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>>94825245
>give the guy with a gigantic ego the ability to never die
>he has to lose and then "live" with the fact he's only alive and his opponent isn't because someone else said so

He is trapped in an armor of his failures in the face of his bruised ego.
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>>94825245
Nobody would talk about Lucy if he was just another one of the sword-fighty-types who never lose.
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>>94825202
They look bad and i play dread mob
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>>94825245
That's actually why he's fun.
>Claims to be the prettiest and best duelist in the universe
>Gets punched in the face, invalidating both
>Can't handle one loss and his face being broken
>Slaanesh thinks this is funny af and makes it so when he loses he has to walk around with the winners face on his Tshirt.
>Finds out more and more he's not that great at dueling and his armor looks like a neets Funko pop wall
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>>94825202
I think they look neat
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>>94825251
i agree, ive been waiting for them for years and i genuinely dont know if im gonna buy them. maybe its the colour scheme (i use purple and gold) maybe its the godawful heads on lucius and the flawless blades, but i’m just not excited at all
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>>94825222
thats fine, I was always mono daemons anyway
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>>94825278
Nice gork
I hope it fucked up those custodes
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>>94825275
>NTA but
That's actually pretty funny.
Is this lore aspect a remnant of when 40k was just a satirical silly setting during the Rogue Trader days?
I say this because 40k is not treated like a satire.
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>>94825251
Like everything GW's put out for 40k recently, I'm reserving judgement until someone who can actually paint gets their hands on them and we can see all of the options in action.
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Did they reveal any Harlequin new models for the Codex?
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>>94825265
Other than doing it for the sake of it being a callback to better days, the goblin green shit is pretty lazy and ugly. Not throwing shade at the khorne demon guy, he's a great painter and I fully believe in his ability to create amazing basing if he chose to do so, but I'm speaking in general. How many demonic invasions occur in verdant green fields without fucking up the terrain or leaving it scarred from battle? I don't find it as immersive, personally..
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Are they power swords or just regular swords?
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>>94825267
>breaks the lance in transit to the FLGS

>>94825222
Slaaneshi daemons are going to be in the new EC codex so I suspect theyll get squatted and shoved into the chaos cult legions for 40K
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>>94825275

>he thinks he's the best fighter but all he ever does is go around fighting people and losing

Yeah that's why he's funny as hell. Orks do the same shit and nobody hates them. I don't get it.
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>>94825292
No, you already got a large refresh they previewed last year. You got all you're going to get, stop acting like a space marine player.
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>>94825296
Power
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>>94825296
gay hooker-blades that give you aids
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>>94825306
Quins have fucking like 5 units most are 10 years old.
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I'm looking for a particular piece of art. It had two chaos marines in dark blue (they might have been slaaneshi, I want to say Violators) on a planet with a moon in the background, I think one had a rocket launcher. Does anyone know what I'm talking about or am I finally going schizo
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>>94825222
Suppose Belakor will be put out of a job
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>>94825296
Power swords they’re the EC equivalent of 8 bound. That being said it sounds like the EC are going to have some crazy speed with army wide advance and charge and a bunch of infiltrators/scout moves. WE vs EV will be great fun refighting Skalathrax
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Anyone else notice all the new Chaos kits marines are mostly ditching the MK7 helmets now or any helmet and just using faces?
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>>94825267
Why do AOS models have to be so damned fragile looking?
>inb4 its hard plastic
Doesn't mean shit. These are game pieces that will be moved around on the tabletop and transported to friends houses or game stores. Speedbumps are inevitable.
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>>94825309
>Give you aids
But that's not DG
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>>94825318
They got tired of Creed shooting them in the eye lense.
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>>94825318
EC need better access to their eyes and nose when they’re huffing warp drugs
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>>94825278
>I think they look neat
Yea, but you're a faggot and no one cares about your opinions
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>>94825206
They made her ugly on purpose.
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>>94825289
I honestly don't know. I know the face punching incident came from HH and the armor curse has always been his lore.
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>>94825186
What are other good/iconic options for gaudy Slaaneshi marine patterns besides leopard spots and zebra stripes?
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>>94825311
>He thinks 10 year old models is old
Lol. I honestly think they are getting soft phased out. They are too niche and too hard for most people to paint. Maybe you'll get a kill team box someday.
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>>94825321
They are surprisingly flexible and hard
I have a night haunt army ad the only time a piece broke off was when I stepped on it accidentally
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>>94825316
Belakor will probably be required for mixed Daemons like in AoS.
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>>94825322
Like this model but for some reason he feels like they took inspiration from anime with the massive sword wrapped in cloth on his back
“Owari-da Typhus-sama the plague stars have fallen”
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>>94825326
the bit of lore they mentioned on stream was funny where they have a dust they snort that travels up into their eyes where it starts forming crystals which sounds horrific but the ec dudes love the feeling of crystals in their fucking eyes
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>>94825334
Marti Gras stuff
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Tell me Anon, what music do you blast at ear destroying volume? Quiet Riot? Tenacious D? Skrillex? Hatsune Miku?

D-Rok?
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>>94825334
Rainbow stripes, checkerboard pattens. I think a few people will use greenstuff to make skin sheets across the armour. Honestly you could paint them in some horrible scheme that clashes and it would be perfectly on brand for them.
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>>94825295
post your bases lmao
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>>94825352
These guys seem cool unlike the real thing.
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>>94825340
its really silly how theres just no way this fat sack of shit is gonna be able to pull that sword around like he cant reach back and unlatch the leather he cant reach over his fat retard body to grab the hilt so he’d just be struggling to get it out a bunch
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Is there a reason for the EC being so much bigger? Are they primarisized or some other thing provided by Bile or something
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>>94825352
ten minute guitar solos
https://youtu.be/JOKn33-q4Ao?si=TH5y1LGzdRvsOb45
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Noise Marines shouldn't be on 40mm bases.
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>>94825204
I dont know who in GW thinks people want to use un-helmeted heads on their minis. The last kit I built wastes so much sprue space on them its ridiculous. 13 heads in a 10 man box.
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>>94825346
that's badass
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>>94825361
GW should make a stage centerpiece with a band. Like the triumph model but noise
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Questions about tech priests and similar characters:

About how much of the average tech priest is mechanical? Do they continue replacing organic body parts until only their brain is left or is there a stopping point?

What do they smell like? Given that they are cybernetic do they have a neutral smell like everyone around them or do their mechanical parts smell like oil or battery acid?

Can they reproduce like normal humans or do they only increase their numbers via requirement?

Are there any real difference between male and female tech priests?
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>>94825374
i do i like painting faces
sure its retarded that they dont have hats on but i just think faces are neat
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>>94825346
>”pssstt hey kids wanna grow crystals out of your eyes”

>>94825363
Yeah just baffling really

>>94825367
10millenia huffing warp drugs and daemon roids

>>94825374
Depends on the army as for CSM it makes sense there’s some guys who are too crazy to bother or who’ve just lost them and can’t be bothered to replace it.
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>>94825376
I assumed that's where I thought gw were going with the guitar noise marine, and the Goff rocker
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>>94825379
They probably smell like a rusty bucket of piss.
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>>94825337
>They are surprisingly flexible and hard
That's the nature of hard plastic. I like my models sturdy and not stuffed with dangly parts that could fall off if a fly sneezes on them or snap off because you didn't use enough packing foam and the car gently went over a speedbump.
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Where did this mini come from? I want one.
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>>94825374
I like them on my "special" minis. Like in my jump pack intercessors I'm doing right now one of them has an unhelmeted (half mask actually) head and extra bits to denote him as a veteran. But I also do fancy helmets for those types too. I just like the variety
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>>94825370
The primarization of chaos continues.
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>The Silent King was troubled. Two Pylons were destroyed. A third suffered considerable damage. The notion of the invincibility of the Pariah Nexus was shattered.
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>>94825367
The high heel boots make them look taller
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>>94825395
Horus heresy mark 6 body with optional heavy weapon upgrade arms.
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>>94825379
>What do they smell like?
VERY old roadkill. Your grandmas coat. An overclocked PC. Oil stain at a used car dealer
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>>94825374
I do unhelmeted for everything because it looks less homogenic.
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>>94825374
painting heads is fun tho
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>>94825405
Thanks
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>>94825379
1. Depends entirely on rank. Initiates start small, only a few augments. The higher you rise, the more metal you get. The top dogs becoming behemoths of random machines. iirc, the Fabricator General (head of the AdMech) is the size of a house. They'll ideally replace all organic parts but the brain (which will be augmented), but every priest is different.

2. Probably motor oil and embalming fluid kinda smells.

3. They recruit humans they find to have technical intuition. The Forge Worlds will be their main recruiting worlds, though anyone with talent can join. Space Marines who have shown talent can be trained to become Tech Marines, loyal to the Chapter and Mars.

4. Not really.
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>>94825367
There's nothing in those previews to suggest their scale vs the other CSM ranges
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>>94825397

I always whack a few helmless dudes at random into a squad to make it look a bit different. I'm also autistic enough to remove them first because I like to think they're the first dudes to die.
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>>94825367
they've got those extra inches shoved in them
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>>94825251
I think they look just ok, like above average, but I wouldn't say I was impressed, just more guys in power armor. GW is playing it safe because they are selling toys to kids. I like heroes and units faces though.
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>The Tehncomandrites were fuming as Necrons suffered defeat after defeat by the inferior technologies of the humans.
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>>94825186
>Lucius whole thing is his armor covered in faces of those who beat him
>New sculpt has like 3 faces and only on his pauldrons
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>>94825379
I always imagined it smelling very similar to a scrapyard/autoshop, with hints of hippie trailer smells. somewhat metallic and earthy with hints of incense and heavy solvents
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I liked em better in my mind
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>>94825251
I too agree they're just aight. Nothing crazy, which is extra disappointing because it's Slaanesh. But they're not terrible. I'm just glad I wasn't looking forward to them anyways
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>>94825202
It is a rip off for that kind of money, but looks better in real life. Watch Duncan's (or any other for that
matter) painting video, there you can get an idea how it may look like irl
Also check for other paint schemes, this GW yellow does not make it look good.
picrel my own, not the best paint job but I like it.
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>>94825249
Eh? What does that mean
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>>94825270
I don't know, I just think these guys look slightly too cartoony, and not in the way 40k has always looked. Sort of like with the Death Guard where they borrowed a little too hard from the fantasy designs and put them in medieval like helmets and lots of chainmail, these guys look like they barrowed slightly too much from the AoS hedonites. I also think they lack edge. Nothing perverse or really cruel on them, like a skinned face or a monoboob chest. Its good they didnt go too cheesy like they did with DG and put mouths and shit on them and too overdesign it. I also don't like how the noise Blasters look, theyre kinds boring.. I would have loved more guys look sort of creepy and oddly expressive like these guys. To be fair there's some of that in this reveal very faintly.

And I dunno what I really like from 40k anymore. I liked the Khorne Zerkers kit, they look how they should IMO. I like a lot of Killteams like the Ork Commandos. I guess I like older models though. I love old dreadnoughts and terminators and hate the new dreadnoughts and helbrutes. I like the old gasmask DG and think the new ones are just OK but overdesigned as fuck. I suspect most will just think nostalgia blinds me but maybe
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Would you let your opponent say that their firstborn marines count as primaris?
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>>94825395
>get a moulded urgan base
>paint it green
>cover it with sand and grass
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>>94825438
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Why do infractors have phobos armor?
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>>94825442
Yes, everybody does
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>>94825442
if it was a friend sure, but only if they're painted
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>>94825443
Overgrown abandoned city. Cooler than gravel and a dinky rock
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>>94825248
So like did he steal the necron's soul or like... arent Necron soulless?
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>>94825445
he cute
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The new Graveguard oops I meant Barrowguard™ looked more inspired than the Emp Children
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>>94825186
>Snorts 4 lines of cocaine whilst someone with a straw blows coke up my anoose
What if we changed the rules for 40k by making everything shoot/melee/save worse?
What I mean is as an example, MEQ shots, hits and saves go to a 4+, GEQ equivalent go to a 5+ to hit shoot etc.
This would make the fucking game good instead of every model and his dog hitting on 2+'s or 3+'s as that should be for the best of the best & the unnatural

Oh and a Primaris centurion refresh
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>>94825443
based
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>>94825251
I feel like the 10th Ed 'Nids refresh was amazing. The Neurotyrant and Norn Emissary got me into the army on their own.

I think it's hard atm. If you make a massively detailed and complex mini, people complain that it looks overdone and that it's too difficult to build/paint. You make simpler stuff, people complain that it's bland and uninspired.

Personally I think the new EC is a good middle ground, and there's always adding custom bits for those who want it.
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>>94825251
Same, they are ordinary at best
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>Though the humans did not know it, if they managed to hold on a little longer then the Silent King would be forced to admit defeat and withdraw into a defensive posture
>The Silent King was fuming.
The Seething King
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>>94825458
I am stoked for new boners, the dragon looks sick too
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>>94825471
Wheres my Ghoulking on Zombie drag?
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>>94825458
I dislike the wings on the helmets.
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>>94825458
>get the Intern to slap some armor on the skeletons and some wings on the helmets
Seriously GW?
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>>94825474
Going back to TOW
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>>94825479
>Salty nightlord player
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>>94825458
Barrowkings is honestly a better name than grave guard or black knights
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>>94825483
Nightlord KT won model of the year while nobody will remember armored skeleton #600
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>>94825488
>the driest model won in the worst year of 40k releases
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>>94825464
Nids were good and they were painted good by GW even. I guess it just jived sirprisingly well with nuGW's artists.
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>>94825203
Slaanesh can just resurrect Lucius normally, like other Chaos champions. Kharn's been resurrected before and I'm pretty sure Typhus has too. The whole possession thing is just because Slaanesh finds it funny
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>>94825453
Necron are soulless.
>but how?
Don't question it.
GW will come up with any kind of bullshit to justify keeping Lucius around and none of the writers have the actual balls to kill him off. And if he dies they will just come up with some retarded lazy reason to bring him back again.
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>>94825492
>The fantatranny violently copes
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>>94825355
>mfw 4th
But I have very few models, about 1000pts so not sure if it even counts
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>>94825464
Also I wanna agree that they found that middleground, but the tone is just off. I think the designers think that because 40k is space fantasy they can get away with reusing AoS fantasy inspirations but honestly you can't. Atleast not with everything.
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>>94825248
See the Necron thing is weird because sure Chaos can damage Necrons, we have examples of Nurgle rotting then with some technoplague. But Necron minds get teleported back to their tomb when their body gets destroyed. The writer just never accounts for this
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>>94825502
That's a dude in a dress.
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>>94825506
It’s 2025 you can’t say that
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Why are Salamanders in the roadmap
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>>94825479
>>94825481
Always had em
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>>94825512
Because its remnants of the dead DEI initiative
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>>94825510
Too bad, I already did.
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>>94825513
…did they make the wings less retarded? Holy shit.
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>>94825512
Roadmap?
Wait, are Sallies getting a codex supplement for themselves?
Where roadmap, I want to see.
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Mogs your entire Emperors Children line
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>>94825524
I’m not painting shields
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>autist repeatedly spams aos slop in the 40K thread
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>>94825524
Looks like shit
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>>94825526
Then build em like this
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The Lucius redesign turned out rather well.
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>>94825536
>everyone I don't like is the same person
grim
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>>94825523
>Sallies getting a codex

Nigga that's gonna be SM 2.0 with Salamanders on the cover
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I expected more skin, flesh ribbons and piercings like the AoS hedonists
No homo but BDSM ribbons look really neat
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>>94825496
>some retarded lazy reason

He is alive because Slaanesh thinks it's funny, he died by getting sucked into space and still got back up. There doesn't have to be a logic to this.
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>>94825547
The whole range update looks great imo. Really loving the lord though - guy looks amazing. I'm wondering if they'll give him the option to run both of his pistol options since he has options for each arm to carry one.
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Why use Infractors when they still have access to cultists?
Scouts and cultists full fill the same role of scout + home objective scorer
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>>94825547
nobody cares
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>>94825562
I’m glad I’m not as much of a degenerate as I think I am
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>>94825440
They're literally rehashes of the old models you fake grog like wtf do you want. The minis you posted aren't even official they're just kitbashes. Are you sure you ever even liked Chaos or do you just like the idea of what they are in your mind.
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These look pretty cool but why don't they actually flesh out the non DG heretic legions before starting another one, dropping 3-4 kits for it and then going onto the next thing?
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This guy looks fucking sick, love the sword.
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>>94825598
What’s the point of the back pack
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The new emperor children mini looks retro but with the soul sucked out, it's weird. I will, maybe, get 2nd hand box of Noise Marine for my night lord once the hype dies down.
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Admech bros eating good I wonder if it will make Cohort Cybernetica more competitive
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>>94825374
I always do unhelmeted options and hate when kits don't come with both options because unhelmeted adds 100x more character to minis. Just because you suck ass at painting faces doesn't mean the rest of us do.
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>>94825598
this mini is *blocks your path* coded. I hope he's an anti vehicle dude
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>>94825536
that's what happens when there's nothing interesting in your reveals or your faction
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>>94825502
I'm the guy with the orange GSC, so there's at least 5.
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>>94825593
To build hype and impulse purchases
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>>94825599
Tumor engine.
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>>94825367
>>94825416
They do seem to be a bit bigger than the rest of the csm. Particularly in the legs. But not quite as tall as primaris. For those who dont know, deathguard actually are in this same inbetween size as well, so maybe they are going with that? Regular cms are too small anyways so Im glad to see at least some.
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>>94825609
these guys do look neat
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>>94825598
My issue is that DG heroes are too redundant because Biology Professor and Foul Blightspawn are way too damn strong. Both in combat and their buffs
How can you beat Lethals on a 5+ to an entire unit, a free grenade strat and a fights first buff?
With both of them they arguably become some of the biggest damage dealing units in the game.
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I like this squad. The commissar especially looks dapper.
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>>94825609
>>94825619
Yeah those guys looked neat
Perfect for DG cultists. Even look like the guys from darktide
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>>94825624
I like the pope lady
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>>94825609
you filthy s'wit
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>>94825316
Honestly? Good. Belakor was always a stupid addition from Fantasy's corpse who made no sense being anything more then a generic in 40K.
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>>94825624
An axe is a bit on the nose. I'd change it to a bolt pistol.
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>>94825608
I was thinking anti-character since he has an executioner's sword.
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>>94825615
Maybe they lengthened their legs a little to make them look a bit more lithe
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>>94825624
is the bottom left model meant to a character from Tanith?
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The EC look a lot less homo pandering than I was expecting
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>>94825624
>me? executing people with an axe? noooo, I would never... what axe anyway?
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>>94825641
Same but with a disappointing tone
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>>94825643
This model is so good compared to the last one they made.
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>>94825305
This is a mindset of loyalist marine players that think winning more in the fluff makes them cool. Orks are goofy enough on the surface that they don't try to apply their child logic, but everything else gets them going.
You often used to see people try to make fun of Night Lords for jobbing so often, not understanding that playing the evil but cowardly heel is the appeal for most Night Lord players.

Custodes players suffer from an even more dire form of this same childlike mindset, it often being the sole reason for them having chosen their army.
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>>94825649
You must play Votann
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>>94825640
I think she's supposed to be Drookian fenguard IIRC from the books
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>>94825432
Is this supposed to be a corrupted Bocchi?
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>>94825630
Her mace is pretty rad
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>>94825654
that makes more sense been a while since we have seen them pop up
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>>94825643
>Y-You think I look kawaii? uguu~
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>>94825641
I am surprised how retro they look. Like full on back to the 80s rocker vibe. I guess thats how GW dodged having to put in boobies and gays.
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>>94825659
I didn't even notice the mace. thats pretty cool
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>>94825624
Did Minka come up in the world? She's dressing a lot fancier than she used to.
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>>94825442
That's not wysiwyg
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>>94825222
They'll get to stick around as an option using the detachments already released for the rest of 10th at least, but looking at the AoS precedent there's a pretty decent list they won't survive the next couple of editions.
Unfortunate, but the fluff always struggled to justify mixed daemons, and the writing has been the wall for a while. So it goes.
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>>94825620
I think the heroes are redundant more than anything because there's only one unit all of them can join in, 8 different leaders for the same unit. PMs are flexible but not that flexible that their datasheet can be feasibly joined by 8 different leader buffs.
On top of that the DG Index is in bad shape and will probably need a heavy rewrite when the codex hits which might tone down some of the more extremely powerful stuff (like a 50 point leader making a third of your hits auto-wound)
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>>94825460
Marines on 3s and less elite stuff on 4s would have been fine IF THEY ACTUALLY STUCK WITH IT. At the start of 10th, they clearly had an idea to reduce ballistic skill across the board, making stuff like admech, necrons and votann hit on base 4+, but they weren't consequential at all, and now they're largely rolled it back again because people whined they couldn't do damage because GW also released wack defensive profiles like deathwing knights. Also if they'd removed all the FUCKING re-rolls. Oath of Moment was a huge design mistake.
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>>94825663
I'm a sucker for the beakie helmets, glad to see EC rocking them.

Now if only they had guitars
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>>94825677
They make up for the absolute piss for strats they have
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>>94825687
Yeah and the fact they have almost no army rule and most of the datasheets are weak. That's the issue with DG really, everything about them is weak except their absolutely overloaded detachment rule (which has the issue of making all other regular detachments unplayable) and the PM + biologus combo. That's what they will have to unfuck in the codex.
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>elite unit named after Lucius
Props to James for leaning into the the Big L's rock star status
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>>94825251
I think there are a few standouts. Mostly I'm satisfied with the roster, since I was planning to mostly convert my dudes anyhow. The mooks couldn't be easier to kitbash with 30k beakies, while noise marines and the duellists look to provide some interesting bits.
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>>94825627
kinda wanna grab a couple boxes of nomads, and some fantasy flagellants and do some inquisition weirdos
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>>94825672
wysiwyg is mental weakness
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I'll take pic related over the new sculpts any day. I don't like the aos hedonites vibe.
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>>94825700
Theres also the piss cheap Deathshroud. Tourney lists arent even bringing Plague marines anymore. Just spamming Chaos Termi lords and Shrouds. Who hell has 18 Death shrouds? I got 9 due to the Boarding patrol but never used more than 6
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>>94825702
It's cool that the design of the new lord shares a lot of cues with the praetor in HH.
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>>94825624
>commissar gets a power axe
>not marines
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>>94825524
I expect we'll see a lot of EC armies that use the AoS slaanesh kits for conversions
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are the Minka Lesk books really that good?
she must be super popular if this is the second time they're giving minka her own mini, I've read a couple guard books, but I'll admit I haven't been following the Cadian stuff
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>>94825352
Shouty hardcore and punk music
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>>94825442
Of course, a marine is a marine.
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>>94825726
I think both are cool for different reasons and are so different that you're either going to like one or thr other
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>>94825751
I think the first book was popular, probably entirely based on her being a cute girl on the cover, and someone at BL have been desperate to ride that wave.
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>>94825374
Eldar kits are the worst for this as every kit now has standard helments, variants and face showing ynnari heads. 5 man aspect squads have like 13 head options.
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>>94825204
Unhelmeted faces should be reserved for big characters
All marines should wear their fucking helmets.
And by checking bits stores, the overwhelming majority of players also think that, because there's always a massive stock of bare heads and never enough helmets
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>>94825624
Man, 40k is really embracing that "mom says you have to bring me with" little brother energy with all these girlbosses now, huh? These look so lame.
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>>94825374
>>94825759
You guys bitch about monopose but also bitch about having options.
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>>94825474
You'll have to proxy it as the new terrorghaist this summer
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>>94825759
Are you really crying about having options right now?
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>>94825624
At least lensk doesn't look like a crack addict in this one...
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>>94825766
you realize now that this place is sn outlet for people to complain
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>>94825773
>>94825766
>hat or no hat is just as interesting as being able to pose your minis
Fuck off
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>>94825562
>No homo
>Posts gay porn
Lol
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>>94825186
Aeldari and Chaos won.
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What's y'all's opinion on making a setting agnostic Chaos army? I mean one where the warbands can be used in either 40k or Fantasy, even tho they are obviously from one universe or the other.
I seem to recall the Realm of Chaos books stating that Chaos followers are often plucked out of reality and spirited away to another reality to fight in the name of their patron, and a lot of the time it's the other Warhammer universe. I really wanna have Traitor Guardsmen showing a lasgun and autogun firing line towards Empire State Troopers, or a Chaos Troll suplexing a Leman Russ.
Of course this would require some rule bending and proxy'ing, especially in alter editions, but I can just say that the lasguns and autoguns are handguns or crossbows, and the Troll is an Ogryn; for game mechanics' sake, right?
cool pic tax included
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>>94825547
Isn't his armor supposed to be made of flesh of his previous killers?
This black sheme compleatly loses the vibe, unless only Africans were capable of killing him
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>94825751
I checked out Traitor Rock because I was trying to learn a bit about the Temple of the Saviour Emperor. Didn't really get as much of that as I would have liked, but on its own merits the book was fine.
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>>94825296
Man I love those blade sluts, receiving "benefits" from their patrons
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>>94825379
>About how much of the average tech priest is mechanical? Do they continue replacing organic body parts until only their brain is left or is there a stopping point?
Depends on seniority and to some extent personal preference.
>What do they smell like? Given that they are cybernetic do they have a neutral smell like everyone around them or do their mechanical parts smell like oil or battery acid?
All of the above, but also a lot of incense. Don't underestimate the importance of the 'priest' part of Techpriest.
>Can they reproduce like normal humans or do they only increase their numbers via requirement?
Depends on the individual. Some keep the needed reproductive organs for long enough to breed. There are some that clone themselves, or genetically engineer an optimized designer baby as their ideal apprentice. Most of their recruitment is from outside the priesthood though, taking on the most technically proficient from the menial populations of their Forge Worlds.
>Are there any real difference between male and female tech priests?
Depends on the individual. Plenty are eager to leave behind all such markers of their original organic form, but there are some that make the point of keeping the distinction clear.
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>>94825779
>implying it's an either or
>implying old kits had as much poseability as you pretend they do
>implying choices are ever a bad thing
Whatever dumbass army you play (guaranteed you're a marinefag if you even play the game at all), you deserve whatever "new bad" shit you're railing against right now.
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>>94825795
Possibly just a shit decision made from the paint studio and marketing to make the details more visible.
Surely with a more traditional paint scheme with more vivid flesh patches it will look better
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>>94825773
>>94825766
Ynnari heads should be an upgrade sprue, I have 4973473 unhelmted heads flooding my bits boxes that I will never use
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>>94825795
>Imma fuck dis nigga up!
>No, Tyronius don't do it! It's Lucius he'll just reincarnate through you!
>I ain't no bitch nigga, noamsayin??
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>>94825803
>guaranteed you're a marinefag
Can't argue against me so you try to contrive some character you think is easier to debate, pathetic. No, I just finished assembling and painting 6 skorpekh destroyers and I'm pretty fucking annoyed that I have 2 of each distinctive pose, so it looks weird, instead of having a simpler way to make them look better without clipping them apart and possibly ruining them. You should genuinely kill yourself, and I mean that knowing that this is about toy soldiers. Please, end your life.
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>>94825795
They probably did some tests and decided this was better for a showcase of the physical product.
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That's a sslyth isn't it? Plastic court of the archon confirmed?
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>>94825818
>baby bitch scared of clippers wants me to die
Nah I'm good. Like I said - you deserve what you have.
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>>94825751
Literally never even heard of this character before.
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>>94825827
End your life. If you reply, you're gay.
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>eightbound subjugate 8 daemons in their own body to become 1337
>flawless blades just pump six gallons of liquid speed and let it rip
I feel like one of these takes a lot more work and is a lot less fun. World eaters try too hard.
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>>94825801
ASSASSinorum
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>>94825751
>gets more minis than half the armies based entirely on guardfags going >tfw no cadian tomboy gf
xenosfags HATE HER
how? literally just put a cute girl on the cover instead of whatever the fuck xenosfags>>94825206 are doing
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>>94825547
I wonder what they put in the two new cocktail containers.
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>>94825296
My Ratlings are going to be so happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsfdoE2daXA
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Gue'vesa techpriests... but with tau tech..
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>>94825795
He's been doing a lot of jobbing to the salamanders
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>>94825823
Yeah, it would fit. Perhaps a kill team version
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>>94825852
Serpentin is probably like viagra but 200 times stronger.
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>>94825547
the bubbles painted onto the liquid container are impressive
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>>94825334
take your pick
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>>94825823
I thought thats just a Space Wolve
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>>94825857
That's called a xenarite you heathen
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>>94825615
The "massive" difference in height of shitmaris is being retconned anyway, so they can just say it's truescale and call it a day.
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>>94825296
Huh. I really dislike the coneheads but those insectoid heads are cool. I also like the Soulblighter guy.
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God bless the Tyranid warrior kit for having so many spare weapon options.
I can still make another 3 out of the spare weapons I have left
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>>94825908
I want to see more helmets
The guy in the lower left looks sick
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>>94825296
I like that all of them are wearing crop tops.
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>>94825512
Vulkan release.
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>>94825611
Post them. Here are mine, I'm super lazy and not only I not fully finished this box but I've yet to start assembling the 2nd box. I can't even play 1000pts games, only combat patrol.
I applied tanned skin color, a mix of purple and skin shade but they ended up being too tanned. I probably should get a lighter skin tone to highlight because they look super red.
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What happened to the IK?
They got pushed back? They were supposed to be included in this round of releases
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>>94825586
>space marine chud mad that his faction is not the center of attention for one attosecond.
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>>94825653
Come on anon, you don't have to make it quite so obvious that you felt called out.
For what it's worth though, at least marinepiggies and even custardfags appreciate the setting, even only on the shallowest possible level. Votann players are largely those that connect with nothing in 40k and yet buy regardless, pure consumers of product.
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>>94825899
Primaris were never that much taller in the lore, it's just that firstborn minis were undersized. GW have quietly been upscaling all of their new firstborn releases to be just slightly shorter than primaris.
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>>94825838
>>flawless blades just pump six gallons of liquid speed and let it rip
they also have demonic patrons, except where the eightbounds subjugate 8 of them, the blades beg for favours from just one each, and if they don't do enough it kills them

all because they're too scared of real demonic possession, little drama bitches
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>>94825925
They're rushing out cult legions together due to the daemon split up and soft squatting
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>>94825643
Just needs a headswap.
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>>94825925
GW realized Chaos knights were so much cooler and popular thus they wrote out all Imperial knight households out by saying they all became corrupted and became Chaos knights
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>>94825823
Nah, I think I see a marine shoulder pad in there.
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>>94825949
Knights a shit
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>>94825934
Reading some of the books around the primaris release they make a lot of remarks about how they are bigger (forgetting size variation in marines was also a thing)
But in models, specially comparing to 30k, they are normally like a mm bigger or a bit more depending on the pose
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>>94825917
Based on the pretty iconic 3.5ed Slaaneshi Marine art obviously. Whereas the normal dudes are based on the RT Slaanesh marine.
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>>94825952
I know but turns out giving them spikes and reverse joint legs make them look rad
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>>94825614
it's not a tumor
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>>94825949
>>94825925
Put Imperial Knights into the Admech book and freeblades into Imperial Agents.
Put Chaos Knights into an Agents of Chaos book alongside, Belakor, Vashtor, all the damned/cultist units, and any other leftovers.
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>>94825643
OK, I think I see what they're trying to do. He's posed like that because he's supposed to be leaning over somebody's shoulder.
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>>94825965
that's what the doctors say when you don't pay then enough
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>>94825909
Damn Tyranids look cool
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>>94825662
>>94825643
>yandere commissar that summarily executes the competition for your affection
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>>94825922
They're all packed up for now, but here's my first batch. I struggle with light skin, but since my guys are from a mostly desert planet, I think them looking a bit swarthy is fitting.
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>>94825429
He's also got some on his chest, if you look closely
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>daemons get squatted
>bel'akor gets rolled into the chaos knights codex
y/n
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>>94825922
And here's the newest additions, bringing me up to 1500-1600 points. I love your aberrants, and your neophyte's armor looks really neat and clean.
I've yet to paint a magus, but I'm looking forward to her.
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>>94826002
Looking good. I wanna get the new combat patrol for metamorphs and the ridgerunner, but I also want an Acolyte Iconward for that sweet +4FNP but it's sold out everywhere.
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>>94825403
maybe this will lead to the Necrons taking shit seriously resulting in them taking some wins and building more shit gaining more figures
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>>94825996
It's not enough that you love the Emperor, you have to be in love with the Emperor.
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I would say I can't believe that GW split Noise Marines into 3 units with diferent weapons, sonic, boltguns and melee.
But somehow I'm not suprised, it's something that GW would 100% do.
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>>94826015
Yeah, the Iconward is great. I have two of them, my friend playing SoB was nice enough to give me one of his girl's spare icons, so I have a way to distinguish them. And now I have a spare banner I plan on using for that IG flagbearer guy once I start on my brood brothers.
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>Mina Lesk
>Naeve Blacktalon

nuGW trying to push shit female characters always makes me lel

Cannot imagine the type of paypig it makes honk and squeal
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>>94825702
>>94825701
I wonder what these would look like with a good paint scheme like

I cant tell if I dislike the actual models or just the colours

>>94825737
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>>94826004
ideally he should be in the chaos space marines codex, but put in the knights codex with rules to be added in a csm army without having to give up anything would also work, he did canonically make a knight house his home turf
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So are we getting -
Salamander's Index
The fire is actually Legion of the Damned
Vulkan Lives
Angels of Death index, Sallys are just the most popular so they're the cover art
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>>94825823
Can't find it on the stream, where did you see this anon
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>>94825702
is it me or is the paint really lumpy and uneven on the gauntlet
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>>94825823

That's a Space Wolf. I've seen enough furry profiles. That's definitely a shaggy mane/head leaned back to howl. Possibly a new Wulfen or Wolf Guard but it could be literally anything.
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did a funny control panel today
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>>94826051
Nevermind found it
>>94825823
100% a marine, maybe a thunderwolf rider
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>>94825823
>backpack
>Dark Eldar
Looks like something Imperial, possibly space marine, because of pauldron and backpack. Dunno why another power armoured guy with knife is needed, chapter specific unit/character for Space Wolves perhaps?
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>nuGW DEI means 1/3 terrifying warp-twisted superhumans have to be black too

lel

>>94826059
Might be because it's a 3D print and not the actual release model.
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>>94825823
>>94825888
>>94825950
>>94826060
Yup, pretty sure that's a marine from behind, you can make out the shoulder pad and power pack, and from there the knife in a reverse grip and the head looks like there's a beard, so probably wolves.
1 trillion hours in mspaint
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>>94825823
Sorry to disappoint you but it's just Space Wolves refresh. Someone on Reddit found the exact art it matches to.
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>the really cool looking new admech model is only hh yet again
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What are the chances of GW fleshing out Combat Patrol as a game mode to be not shit? I heard good stuff about AoS's Spearhead though I have no idea how it plays. Is it possible that GW has something in the making for 11th ed?
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>>94826079
>thought the guy had black gloves and a gimp mask
>only now realize he's suffering from melanchromic organ failure
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Recent but bad news for the Tau Fifth Sphere Expansion in the Chalnath Expanse.
The Chalnath Expanse, since it was an Imperial shipping nexus, has a fuckton of active genestealer cults. They ignited so many psychic beacons that three hive fleets are redirecting their tendrils toward that region of space. The three Hive Fleetd are going to converge there. These hive fleets are Kronos, Leviathan, and Typhon.

How fucked are the T'au?
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>>94825925
I'm gonna laugh if they don't get shit except new detachments. I seriously do think GW isn't giving them new models and is done with them in the same way they're done with flyers.
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>>94826079
Oh God, they're turning into Eldar coneheads without even needing helmets
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>>94826087
It's not new. It's just plastic release of old model.
GW is also lazy because it's just gun and hand swap of diferent variant, but instead of releasing both options in single box they have it as separate models.
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>>94825925
Knights are universally reviled so we're not going to get a giant Knight range. Probably a soft-squatting
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>>94826030
>>94826014
>>94826002
>>94825922
didn't know we had so many gscanons. neat
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>>94826079
do they usually release photos of other paintschemes

cause this looks shit
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>>94826086
Lets gooooooooooooooo
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>>94826079
The two black players world wide feel very represented right now!
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>>94825186
Anyone here play tau or farsight enclaves? Looking for some decent painting guides and list building tips for 500 points to 1000 to 2000
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Goofy ahhh conehead lookin ass niggas lmao
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>>94826094
>How fucked are the T'au?
Not at all.
Nothing will happen, nothing ever happens.
Blood Angels were assaulted by largest hive fleet yet, we are supposed to believe some big battle happened, but somehow Blood Angels just got more marines from freezer and Devastation of Baal had no impact at all.
There was something about Pariah Nexus, dunno what's happening there, supossedly no warp powers work, despite that Sisters use acts of faith at will and chaos daemons appear.
Nids supossedly won Octarius and this somehow had to be a big big problem, but nothing happened with it just new bigger fleet appeared "bigger and meaner hive fleet, it will be all over this time guys", all it did was destroy some planets you never heard of(like all hive fleets lol) and some Custodes died so I guess there is that.
If Tau lose no biggie, if they win nothing happen, if nids will find some deus ex machina that will destroy galaxy if the eat single planet, they will be stopped by great sacrafice of unnamed peons and nobody named will be harmed.
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How the fuck does GW expect you to play Krieg when they only come in a 50$ kill team box and not a 35$ one like everyone else in Guard troops
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>>94826146
they'll get a reboot I'd imagine
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>>94826086
>That flag
>Are you Schutzstaffel
Based Space Wovles
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>>94826143
>Nothing will happen, nothing ever happens.
I thought that's what people wanted from the setting: stagnation.
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>>94826090
>>94826096
>>94826131

I've just noticed something.

I bet the Eavy Metal painters were like "so one has to not be white" either by instruction from higher up GW or because of their own tokenism

But then they chickened out from making one of the coneheads black and did it on the "normal" head lel
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>>94826156
Do Africans really have coneheads?
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>>94826079
Please let these goobers have alt heads
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>>94826108
That's irrelevant because knights are money makers for GW.
Almost anyone that has an imperial or chaos army will end up getting a knight sooner or later
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>>94826156
You bet wrong. The silly cone heads are in the minority themselves, see >>94825296
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>>94826079
You fags really just love stretching for complaints, huh?
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>>94826172
Yes. I love complaining about nasty shit.
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>>94826180
Nah, I just think you like the sound of your own internal voice.
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>>94826184
Can someone translate this? I'm not fluent in schizo.
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>>94826169
If anything it only reinforces it, the only "normal" head got painted black rather than the insectoid or conehead ones.

Why is it always black too? Why are there no like subcontinental Indian or Chinese or central asian looking skin tones?
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The pink still looks like ass but they will look good in different colors
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>>94826166
I will never get one because I think they look dumb as fuck
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>>94826190
30k has some
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>>94826190
It is not 'normal', it still has its mouth and eyes surgically replaced
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>>94826086
>>94826083
>Eldar, Guard, Emperor's Children
>World Eaters, Deathguard, Thousand Sons
>Grey Knights, Salamanders (?), Black Templar, Chaos Knights/Imperial Knights
>Space Wolves in the shadows
So the only two factions not confirmed for releasing this year are Votann and Dark Eldar then?
Sucks to be stuck on their awful indexes for the entire fucking edition.
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>>94825669
she's a captain or major now it happened in the last book
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>>94826198
These heads are all really cool. I'm not sure that all of them necessarily scream "Space Marines" to me though. I guess they were less brutalized and grim in the 30k era though.
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>>94826156
I'll be real man, you might be overthinking this
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>>94826210
The Salamanders thing has me wondering if they're actually gonna do a marines 2.0 for this edition and are just using their art for some reason.
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>>94826210
It is Salamanders.
Has the scales on front of the gorget and fire.
Also that sally image is a pre-existing 40k Salamanders image that they've just grey scaled.
Full name of the pic is "Salamanders: Warforged Strike Force by Jaime Martinez "
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The Austrian Painter player making trouble again, this time at GTBCN
https://cronicaglobal-elespanol-com.translate.goog/politica/20250116/batalla-legal-por-jugador-neonazi-warhammer-barcelona/916908378_0.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=es
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>>94826241
Is this how spaniards distract themselves from the fact they're being reverse Reconquista'd?
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Man I wish Combat Patrol was not shit so I could grab different boxes and get to play more armies without breaking the bank and having fun.
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>>94825251
They look basically exactly like what I was expecting. Which is fine, it's better than when GW try to reinvent the wheel and fuck it up spectacularly
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>>94826262
my cope is little armies that can go together
2 csm forces and daemons, might get that EC box too
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>‘Wait,’ said Felix. ‘You mean you intend to restore Sotha?’
>‘I do,’ said Cawl.
>‘That’s impossible,’ said Daelus.
>‘You disappoint me, fellow acolyte of the Machine-God. Sotha is the middle ursine! It will be simple.’
[full page of Cawl rambling about Goldilocks and the Three Bears]
>‘If this was that simple then why has it not been done before?’ said Felix.
>‘Felix, Felix!’ said Cawl. ‘Nobody said it was simple. [paragraph of rambling about being a genius]

Cawl literally said it's simple barely over a page ago. Does his funny uncle LARP include pretending to have actual dementia or does this slop not get any proofreading?
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>>94826280
I'd rather get its Combat Patrol but it sucks, army box is fine if you're collecting it but won't be able to play a game as is unless you buy shittons of stuff and points wise it's most likely gonna be minimal.
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>>94826133
https://youtu.be/8CHVvvwbbek?si=MyCnRBRu63YI2-1t
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>>94826254
The slimes are a big problem but it can go away fast.
It's the banana republic tier corrupt government that is the main problem
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>>94825643
Do we know if this model's head is separate from the torso on the sprue or if some snipping will be required?
>>94825942
>Mirai Nikki
Oh man I loved that anime and now I want to make a Yuno Gasai commissar just as a tribute, but I'm worried that I'll get weird looks at the LGS more often than I usually do and I'm also worried about rewatching that anime as I'm afraid that it was actually cringe despite me enjoying it all those years ago.
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>>94826262
have you checked what the savings are like on the subscription magazine thing?
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>>94826262
>I wish Combat Patrol was not shit
The Ademch one is maddening in how shit it is. At least they could've made it 500 points.
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>>94826297
>It's the banana republic tier corrupt government
Well most of Euroland can share in the sentiment that their government just hates them
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>>94826305
Oh, it's not just that they hate us with a passion. Nowadays it's legit having 3rd world tier corruption and self pardoning and legal fuckers on top of regular money and influence corruption. Shits fucked
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>>94826299
I meant it as a game mode, not the boxes. I have the old GSC which is great but the missions are just boring and bland.
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>>94826319
just make up your own missions, bro
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>>94826311
craziest grift ever has got to be the UK conservatives gifting them and close personal friends £15b in Covid public services contracts and they got away with it
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>>94826241
I don't care for his politics. I hope it will cause another R*ddit freakout and force GW to shit out another desperate PR Warhammer Community post.
The guy basically trolled the entire Warhammer 40k community and made a big company kneel. I bet he's trying for that again, but it probably won't happen, but it would be funny if it did.
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>>94825555
Salamanders are popular and distinct, had their own Codex once before, and they've a Primarch who can come back. A Codex now makes a certain sense.
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>>94826241
oh boy I can't wait for another round of discussions about politics in my sci fi toy soldiers hobby
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>Salamanders next
Wait what?
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>>94826331
It is inevitable in these parts of the internet.
And I think Warhammer 40k is cursed with apparently being a political satire of UK politics during the Rogue Trader days so despite it not being treated as a satire today as far as I know I think people will still use Warhammer 40k to comprehend modern politics or bring politics into 40k or like those "people" who used Harry Potter to comprehend real world politics by saying X is Voldemort or some bullshit like that.
It gets really annoying for guard players when they just want to make their guardsmen follow the tradition of being [x army from historical time period but in space] and apparently that invalidates any opinion they have on whether 40k is political or not.
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>>94825186
Man, Slaanesh got actually good looking stuff. What a time to be alive.
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>>94825186
I like that he has a belt buckle as large as his face. People like that IRL are always annoying and that just fits him.
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>>94826159
Not naturally. Some tribes in the Congo mutilate their children and give them permanent brain damage because of their religion.
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>>94825702
Phoenix spears are back.
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>>94826337
James came here and saw how much sallyfag posts
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>>94826364
It was a surprisingly widespread practice in many cultures
The funniest thing is the tinfoil theory that says all these cultures did it to imitate aliens or alien hybrids
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>>94825203
Given Slaanesh can rez him just for fun, the theoretical best way to deal with Lucius is to make Slaanesh give up on him. That way all his blessings go away or a loophole Slaanesh doesn't close ends him for good rather than Slaanesh rezzing him.
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>>94826337
it's an already existing artwork

the current speculation is that it's a placeholder for the new wave of generic space marines which is also going to be accompanied by a new wave of characters for each of the less important chapters like in 8th, which may or may not also come with cashgrab supplements
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>>94825942
>I-It's not like I-I like him or anything!
>Yuki go fuck that brunette girl!
The yandere turned tsundere cuckqueen. A very dangerous Commissar indeed.
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>>94826381
>brood brother flattens its wife's son's head to make it look like a 1st generation geneatealer hybrid
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>>94825653
>dislikes Custodes
>thus is a Destiny player
What
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>>94826390
Nah it's salamanders codex and vulkan coming back. 2 more months trust the plan.
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>>94826404
Yeah, vulkan he'stan.
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>>94826390
There's already a shitloads of generic space marine art they could've used by they specifically showed off the flame pattern.
So who the fuck knows, maybe Salamanders are the new Black Templars and will get a bunch of unique units out of nowhere.
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>>94825352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvx7lPz0Mg
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>>94826404
buy the incoming miniature and supplement and convince all the recently indoctrinated normies into buying the hecking wholesome marines and maybe salamanders will get their primarch within 10 years
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>>94825186
Slaanesh wins again. Khorne btfo.
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>>94825275
>>94825305
The difference is orks don't canonically respawn by killing /yourdude/ after he won, I think that's where the general seethe around Lucius comes from.
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Thready reminder that chaos lords don't get the extra attacks keyword on dual melee builds,but loyalist HQs do.
James forgot, again.
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>be chaos
>lose
>but you win anyway
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EC release is better than WE's but worse than the other two.
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>>94825203
Oh yeah because killing top tier duelist is easy thing to do. Not to mention you have first to know how his bullshit powers work.
At worst Slaanesh would just assume marine who managed to kill Lucius as dead and would possess guy maintaining or one who triggered stasis field. Just like he did with that landmine factory worker.
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>>94826410
>they specifically showed off the flame pattern
because one of the releases seems to a salamander miniature
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Fulgrim novel explaining his return.
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>>94826428
is he just a generic lord or a EC special one like a exuberant flaysworder or something
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>>94826441
and arguably showing a non-ultramarine image gathers a better reception

>>94826442
his return doesn't need explaining, he didn't go anywhere
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>>94826432
I think I want a better look at some of them, especially with other paintjobs but so far they feel about on par with TS
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>>94826449
and they couldn't rationalise showing a bit of every lesser chapter if they're only getting one miniature each, they might hype too much and get backlash in return
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>>94826453
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>>94826442
Why would they need to explain his return?
It was explained plenty, Abaddon made a deal with him(but this plotline was forgotten lol), 13th black crusade launched and there were roumors of traitor primarchs, Fulgrim was teased DUIRNG gathering storm, before Guilliman even got ressurected, he talked to Guilliman, then great rift appeared and daemon primarchs started spawning in galaxy, Fulgrim getting 2-3 additional mentions he's active.
Fulgrim is most active daemon primarch that despite being most active and teased longest is getting model just now after Magnus, Mortarion and Angron.
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>>94826458
>DUIRNG
did you sleep, anon?
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>>94826428
Codex isn’t out yet.
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>>94826442
Stoked to read this one. He is a fun bastard.
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>>94826390
Makes you wonder if they really want Salamanders codex/supplement or it's just another generic marine release.
Salamanders are one of the rarest chapters there is, barely 1000 marines and pre primaris had no official successors. They are also codex compliant with no special units, just master crafted weapons and flamethrowers.
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>>94826303
It’s just a headswap.
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>>94825415
>>94825379
One thing to add to your first question. Yes they replace their body parts, but some magi biologis(the geneticists and biology majors) clone themselves organic ubermensch bodies and transfer their consciousnesses into them to look more presentable.
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>>94826483
I am all the sudden sad that I've never seen a Jason Brody themed Salamanders army.
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>>94826442
Why did they decide to go with the smooth worm belly when they just did the HH one with a segmented, snake-esque one that looks infinitely better?
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>>94826494
The smooth one is more inline with current slaanesh daemons models
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>>94826471
No CSM or WE lord has extra attacks with 2 melee weapons, while their dual wielding loadouts are legal.
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What army's playerbase are the most annoying to deal with and why?
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>>94826410
Salamanders are the general audiance friendly chapter. GW wants to expand their range since they're the 'good guys' in 40k. They're not really but to noobies they seemingly care for people on par with genuine humanitarians like a star trek crew. You have to scratch the surrface to see that they're deranged human supremacists that simply see all humans as above xenos.
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>>94826483
even the special marine subfactions nowadays get a very minimal amount of exclusive units, so I doubt the even less important ones would get exclusive units, I don't see a reason to expect the rumours to be wrong about the incoming models either

>assault terminators
>vanguard veterans
>multipart outriders
>new speeder of some kind

>vulkan he'stan
>white scar character on JETbike
>lysander (terminator armor)
>raven guard character
>iron hands character in terminator armor
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>>94826511
Looking at the previous thread, Knights
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>>94826514
>that they're deranged human supremacists that simply see all humans as above xenos.
Why would that stop them from being tbe good guys?
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>>94826514
>they're deranged human supremacists that simply see all humans as above xenos.
But that's all Imperium
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>>94826523
It makes them too disgusted about xenos to rape them and that makes them evil. Historically, rape was an important part of society and humanity never recovered once antirapism happened. If they think of xenos as non-human, it makes them less sexually attracted thus able to rape.
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>be yesterday
>going to pick up paints from the LGS (ivory and a light brown paint to be watered down to resemble rust)
>Enter LGS
>There's a group of lads around one lad all chanting "tell us"
>Apparently the guy showed up with his marine dudes and the chanters wanted him to tell the homebrew fluff about his dudes.
What gives, /40kg/? I thought nobody at the LGS wants to hear about the backstory of your made up characters.
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>>94826524
Lol no its not, virtually everyone else seems people as utterly expendable. Look at the Imperial Guard, look at that Tithe episode that just wanted to exterminate all the systems bordering Segmentum Solar to deny the Tyranids with no interest in saving even a token amount of people.
Marines Malevolent bombing a refugee camp for fun is closer to how the rest of the Imperium values humans life. Theres their shtick they are the space marine manifestation of the Imperiums view of humanity to be compared to the Salamanders view.
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>>94826083
>that background
Realms of Battle coming back?
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>>94826539
>too many extra details
>made up story
>nobody wants to hear what you have to say
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>>94826542
>Marines Malevolent bombing a refugee camp for fun is closer to how the rest of the Imperium values humans life.
It is not.
Marines Malevolent are specifically an edge case of literal morons that nobody fucking likes because they are so retarded and have heads so far up their own asses that they are talking to Nurgle on the regular.
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>>94826524
i misread your point sorry anon, I'll rephrase
>>94826542
Humans are above enos but they dont actually value human life in itself
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>>94826505
Codex isn’t out yet. That might not even be a lighting claw as it’s not a power fist sized hand. Weird to be so sure of something.
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>>94826516
I just want my plastic fire drakes and a proper upgrade sprue for the Sallies that is on par with the Black Templars and Dark Angels upgrades.
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>>94826559
All dual wielding loyalist captains/chapter masters/generic characters have extra atacks. no chaos character has that keyword.
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>>94826552
Marines Malevolent aren't liked because they steal shit from other chapters, not because they kill civilians. Most chapters don't give shit about civilians, many like Iron Hands or Minotaurs despise them for being weak.
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>>94826514
>deranged human supremacists
But that's all space marines.

I mean, if they were going to elevate one of the lesser chapters I don't think they'd go for Salamanders since we already have "green" space marines; Salamanders green is nearly as distinct from Dark Angels as Space Yiffs blue is different from Ultramarines'... ultramarine. You'd think it'd be White Scars first.
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>>94826447
'Lord Exultant', apparently
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>Deldar refresh arrives
>Vect is back
>He can go toe to toe with Abaddon and win (like he used to)
How would the community react?
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>>94826543
>he doesn't read history
Rape is highly important psychological warfare. Raping women of an enemy who still fights you is production neutral. They're going to incentivize the people from areas who haven't hit yet to fight you harder.

Rape the men. Rape every man you capture. They will never be able to fight again. They'll be traumatized enough that you don't need to bother executing them. It is the Scythian way.

Rape is also a tool of occupation. After you have already conquered a people you rape anyone to prove you can: men, women, children, dogs. Same thing with random public executions. It is the Assyrian way.

It is the way of everyone today. If you an army that doesn't rape is an army that doesn't function. You are weak if you don't.
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>>94826581
I'd be fine with that.
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>>94826572
The Tithe episode showed a Salamander saving a handful of survivors so they are the space mairnes that do try to save people. The rest of the human supremacist chapters don't make that effort or care
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>>94826543
>heretic thinks the emprah never raped in his life
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>>94826581
>but I don't want to build my list around the latest OP unwieldy centerpiece special character, GW, ayeee!
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>>94826581
>How would the community react?
They would ignore him and go back to talling about the latest Primarch book and theorizing which Primarch comes back next.
Xenos characters don't make headlines.
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>>94826584
I just realized, Orks reproduce through spores and get their best highs from fighting. They shed spores the most through combat and especially dying. In other words, when Orks attack an unwilling enemy, they technically force their enemies to assist in their reproduction.
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>>94826601
See >>94826577
>Your heart is as back as your skin if you hate all of existence enough to deny truth.
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>>94826581
I wouldnt use him regardless
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>>94826581
>>How would the community react?
>Who?
Thats all you xenos players will ever get. Take it or leave it.
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>>94826601
Wait I thought those guys were white
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>>94826621
They are. He's just in denial.
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>>94826624
K. My tax dollars go to whites.
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>>94826581
Is Vect a warrior? I always thought he was the mastermind in the shadows kind of character that never dirtied his own hands. Drazhar is his Death Vader to his Evil Emperor.
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Warhammer 40k?
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>>94826613
Your memeing everyone in the community knows who Vect is. But I do wonder if anyone in the Impeirum knows who he is. I wonder if the Imperium knows theres a single ruler of the 'eldar pirates' as they call the deldar, let alone his actual name.
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>>94826632
See >>94826633
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>>94826647
DOn't anon, he is unworthy
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real nomodels hours
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>>94826650
I must. It's not about what you or I want but what is right. And for his own sake it is right.
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>>94826638
I know who Vect is, I just don't give a shit about him.
He's a jobber like the rest of them.
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>>94826630
He's been around for like 10,000 years anon even if he learnt fighting as a hobby in the endless qeust to find new experinces he has a long time to get good and the VERY best Incubi, mandrakes and wyches etc to teach him. Plus he was a normal archon for a while before overthrowing the old royal families. And you don;t get to that station by being a pushover. He's 40k Malekith, hes a dark schemer who lives in a tall black tower and also one of the toughest fighters in fantasy. So his 40k equivlant in Vect shouldn't be any different.
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>>94826630
He had very high melee stats and special melee weapon. Yes he is fighter, in Commorragh you are dead if you can't fight.
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>>94826649
You are a dog.
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>>94826649
Dogs have intelligence. Antirapists don't. You need the educational rape more.
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>>94826630
Does this rape face look like he never dirties his hand?
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Is there any Eldar that can't fight? Given they were designed to fight.
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But Dark Elves are better
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Can you two retards post miniatures so that jannies can actually move their ass and delete your posts?
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>>94826674
>>94826668
Samefag less, carnac.
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>>94826691
You are speaking in code right?
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>>94826691
>>94826696
fuck off destinyfag
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>>94826684
I was going to say dead one, but wraith constructs exist.
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>>94826689
They are superior because they rape their slaves.
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>>94826704
What if the slaves consent?
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>>94826711
Assuming human slaves, they've legally set the age of consent beyond human lifespan therefore it will still be statutory rape.
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>>94826659
Vect literally jobs to Lelith in her book, he's a seething chud incel getting BTFO by succubi lesbians who don't need no man
it's beyond pathetic
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>>94826716
eldar lesbians don't exist because eldar women were at one point eldar men
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>>94826723
all eldar women are lesbians because elves are super fucking gay
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Kino of the highest order.

Metal just has a certain magic to it.
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>>94826704
All citizens should be freed and get equal rights. That way they're treated as people and not property, and thus can be raped as fellow people. It's not legally the same to rape your toy as its rape another free person.
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>>94826741
It's called lead poisoning.
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why does GW hate admech so much
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>>94826691
See >>94826689
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>>94826753
Should admech be a separate army or not?
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>>94826716
The more I hear about the book the more dirty my boy Vect seems to have been treated. Surely him being an immortal god-like king of the dark eldar, you know a Pharaoh essentilly would be enough swagger to pull Lelith and her gf into a threesome if he felt like it. And if they both 'deny' him he could make them do what he wants. Or he merely wants them to think they can deny him as some long drawn out headgame and playful back and forth since he lives for interpersonal drama as 10k+ years old immortal whoseseen and done it all.
Losing to Lelith is not dishonourable shes a freak and the greatest fighter in the 40k universe. Fighting naked with some daggers and fishhooks in her hair and she can compete with the best of them in melee so I don't mind that
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>>94826744
I am now sad that DEldar have no Lusty Argonian Maid equivalent.
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>>94826716
Well she's best Dark Eldar fighter and one of best duelist in galaxy.
Against any other Vect would win.
>>94826630
When Vect had stats his melee skill was higher than Drazhar, but lower than Lelith. Higher than any SM character including Abaddon and Kharn, with only super special duelist Crowe form GK having same skill and Guilliman being higher.
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>>94826757
it seems like they are slowly getting ready to remove them
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>>94826761
The sooner he dies off screen the sooner he can save face and get a cool ominous background snippet saying he might actually be still alive and somehow manipulating everything to his advantage, and not get a miniature ever.
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>>94826749
Die
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>>94826771
He was alredy killed only to return and kill everyone at his funeral.
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>>94826771
He doesn't need to save face he just needs to come back lounging on his flesh couch made out of a still living (but wishes he wasnt) Jaghatai
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>>94826699
No.
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>>94826783
See>>94826796
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>>94826749
That's a pretty metal way to die
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>>94826785
Reminds me of that one guy who faked his own death then showed up at his own funeral at beat his wife for not being sad enough.
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>>94826479
what makes him fun?
>>94826761
wouldn't the primarchs be better fighters?
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>paint a 1k point Raven Guard army
>get bored before getting to 2k points
>paint a 1k point Adepta Sororitas Dmy
>get bored before getting to 2k points
>paint a 1k point Tai army
>get bored before getting to 2k points
>Emperor’s Children look cool…

I hate what I’ve become, but that still won’t stop me
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>>94826821
>what makes him fun?
He ruins the life of everyone around him.
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Compare the EC army box to the DKoK... the points per dollar difference looks insane
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>Yarrick spat.
>Hack away you mean red nigger, he said, and the old daemon raised the axe and split the head of Sebastian Yarrick to the thrapple.
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>>94826715
That is ingenious and fully explains pic. I was wondering how the hell consensual sex between two physically adult-aged people can be rape. Maybe you're right about a link between rape and knowledge.
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>>94826442
who the fuck is Jude Reid and why is a nobody writing the return of Fulgrim? Ah well, I guess its better than having Nick Kyme do it.
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>>94826829
The Thrapple?!
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>>94826825
honestly that's a healthier approach than building 7k points of the same army
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>>94826825
if you cycle back around to Raven Guard and proceed in a circle then you're gucci
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>>94826821
Have you read American Psycho?
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>>94826821
>wouldn't the primarchs be better fighters?
Yeah because of favourtism by GW and the fans. in the TT of course she dies to them but in fluff she could tie with them and draw out a fight rather than straight up lose. She fights enely with Pheonix lords which are eldar primarchs in essence so no they shouldn't be 'better' fighters, near equals is the better way to think of them. Lelith is a monster
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>>94826841
>Pheonix lords which are eldar primarchs in essence
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>>94826828
Yeah, looks like 700 points+.
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>>94826825
having a few smaller armies is more fun anyway
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>>94826828
I fully believe points should be tied to the cost of the product and the rules for the product should be balanced around that
>but anon, 10 guardsmen shouldn't be as strong as 10 marines, and a guard army should have more models than a marine army
then make those 10 guardsmen a recursive unit that can return dead models or the whole unit over and over until balance/semblance of numbers is achieved
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>>94826841
>Pheonix lords which are eldar primarchs in essence
No one thinks that except you, knucklehead
Are you the 'Phoenix Lords are more popular than Primarchs' guy btw?
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>>94826828
I havent looked too closer at the DK box, in who's favour?
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Anybody have a link to the Lucius Bolter and Hammer episode?
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>>94826841
>but in fluff she could tie with them and draw out a fight
sounds dumb
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>>94826847
>>94826856
see >>94826696
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>>94826841
>Pheonix lords which are eldar primarchs in essence
Note: Eldarfags really believe this
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>>94826847
>>94826856
>>94826866
Samefag, by that I mean its the same 2 discord trolls pretending to be different people who also posted all the weird rape shit.
Phoenix Lords are the eldar version of Primarch since they're both leaders of a particular group of elite warriors each with different specialisations. GW treating them as slighty better aspect warriors is them not doing them justice.
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>>94826855
Anon the much easier option to your retardation would be to make the guard models cheaper in price to reflect their poor stats.
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>>94826871
I use to think the nidfags were the most insufferable 40k fanbase but the eldarfags here really take the cake.
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>>94826880
GW knows better than you what Phoenix Lords are and aren't, cretin.
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>>94826880
>Samefag
because I think leilith beating a primarch in a straight fight is dumb?
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>>94826882
>gw
>lowering prices
>easier option
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>>94826894
>straight fight
it would be an evenly matched confrontation since primarchs are gay and eldar are lesbian
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>tfw no cute Cadian tomboy gf
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Eldarbros.... where's our army set? Where's the new combat patrol? Not even a battleforce?
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>>94826880
Anon Phoenix Lord is Eldar who trained hard enough and have fancy armor. they fucking die and are replaced by other Eldar wearing his fancy armor.
Primarchs on other hand are designed superhuman creatures who's genes turn normal human into superhuman warrior strong and tough as ork while as fast as eldar.
Primarchs are way ahead of Phoenix Lords and phoenix lords were special exarchs since Eldar existed. When phoenix lord shows up it's just fany Eldar battle, when primarch show up is either universe changing event or apocalyptic battle.
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>>94826918
Where is the novel tie in that none of you ''''''''''eldarfans''''''''''''' will buy because you have a vendetta against Gav Thorpe?
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>>94826835
You heard the man.
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>>94825248
IIRC it was a Lord that killed him which is why it still felt emotions.
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>>94826922
>Primarchs are way ahead of Phoenix Lords and phoenix lords were special exarchs since Eldar existed
Phoenix lords and aspect warriors only emerged after the Fall
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>>94826924
You get this wrong. It's gav who's having vendetta against Eldar. All his eldar books are dogshit.
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>>94826898
>it would be an evenly matched confrontation since primarchs are gay and eldar are lesbian
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>>94826924
what army would dave meltzer play?
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>>94826924
We won't even get a celebratory Jain Zar model with bare feet...
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>>94826924
Chaosfag here, I'll die with eldarfags and say Gav Thorpe is a incompetent moron and should have been fired many years ago.
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>>94826931
I'm talking edition wise. Eldar got their craftworld fluff and rules and Phoenix Lords were just better exarchs.
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a phoenix lord might have a hundred lives in it but that's not really that much
100 idiots doesn't make you a super genius, it means whenever you do anything there are 100 morons trying to figure out the best move
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>>94826918
the combat patrol is going to be spiritseer+wraithguard+spiders+10avengers
no army set because it's not the launch of an army or a subfaction and because gw is going to make more money by selling the eldar units and characters at their absurd isolated price
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>>94826942
Ah fair enough then
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>>94826766
Surely there MUST be something that can be done. The 'Slutty Servile Sslyth Bond-Guard'?
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>>94826945
>spiritseer schizo still at it
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>slaaneshi reveal is lukewarm
>resident slaaneshi shitposter ramps up his eldar seething
like edgy clockwork
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Emp kids look kinda mid bros
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ork bros, what would you bring to a 500 point game? i was just going to play green tide with 40 boyz and 2 painboys, which is just made to piss people off but its not very good
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>>94826959
At least there is no "Bile in EC codex because some book" poster.
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>>94826959
makes sense, that is canon after all
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>>94826952
>Lusty Argonian Maid
>Seductive Sslyth Servent
An Archon must have fucked on in his court at some point, just for the glory of being the first to do it if nothing else
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>>94826373
There are dozens of us!
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>>94826880
Avatar of Khaine is the eldar primarch, not power rangers.
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>>94826969
Nta, and I'm not sure if I'm the poster you're talking about, but I genuinely expected fabius to be in the slaaneshi book, I wasn't aware he has actually been an undivided marine all along until anons pointed it out here.

I don't dislike the idea of the black legion having characters coming from other warbands, like haarken who's obviously practically a NL, and it would be nice to see the creations of bile get an undivided kill team, but then again wouldn't slaanesh fans want to field fabius in their armies? I think GW should include a clause so they can get him too at the very least.
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>>94826938
Eldar/harlies for the Japanese references and the flips
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Where is the faggot that was exercising every day now?
I need to see his failure, his rotund stomach, his unhealthy diet, etc.
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>>94826994
what was his shtick? he was exercising every day until EC release?
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>>94826511
Guardfags
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>>94826989
the avatar is a demon primarch, not a primarch.
normal primarchs are a category below.
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>>94826992
Eldar flips and acrobatics is a Minoan bull leaping reference. So Ancient Greek no Japaense anime
>>94826989
>Avatar of Khaine is the eldar primarch
>Gets deafeted by Chapter Masters
When the Lion gets his head cut off by an Phoenix Lord I'll buy it
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>>94826997
Yeah
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I am excited for the new EC. I will be getting the collection. Fuck. I've waited like 8 years for this, ever since the TS got their update back in late 2016 I think. It was obvious all 4 mono god legions would get the same eventually. The EC have always been my favorite of the mono god legions so it's nice they finally got around to fucking making them. Not a fan of some of the heads but that's easily fixed and I have plenty of CSM bits. Might throw some horned helmets on a few guys for variety. Can't wait for some new EC art too. There really isn't much out there for them, at least not for 40K.
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>>94827002
Khaine isn't a daemon.
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>>94826965
do I like the other player in this hypothetical
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>>94827007
>>Gets deafeted by Chapter Masters
Primarchs can be weak, Kurze was beheaded by a human assassin.
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>>94827017
Didn’t he let it happen to “prove” his visions were right?
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>>94827017
Assassins are way above the normal human baseline, argueably they're more gene enhanced and hypno-indoctrinated than Space marines. I see them as closer to custodes than space marines. Regardless Kurze let her do it and didn't put up a fight
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>>94827010
>
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>>94827017
Assassins are vastly superior to standard space marines and also Kurze let himself get killed to "own the Emps"
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>>94827027
>Assassins are way above the normal human baseline
Still just a human.
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>>94826990
No you are not the poster. He was super annoying grasping at single book that came before Bile model refresh, in 8th ed and somehow hoped that single scene from book would override 8th ed suplement and 2 CSM codexes stating that Bile is still undivided af, and his own faction rules.
Also Bile isn't Black legion, he is his own thing, freelancer who work to whoever pay him at the moment.
Fabius was never Slaaneshi, he was always undivided, since his first apperance. He just don't give fuck about chaos gods, he just do his own genetic pet project alongside spawning armies of CSM for whoever pay him. Dude left Emperor's Children after Heresy ended.
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>noise marines are a unit of 3 because FUCK YOU
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>>94827030
Tabletop rules aren't canon.
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>>94827036
IIf they're human and not post humans than Space marines and custodes are also just humans
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>>94827039
first time?
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>>94827039
anon...
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>>94827016
no idea desu, its just something that my lgs is doing for fun. its more for new players, i just wanted to run a meme / fun list
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>>94827010
it's a rough category, not a literal one, the norn emissary also fits that category
even if the avatar has had demonic rules from time to time through the editions
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>>94827017
>Primarchs can be weak, Kurze was beheaded by a human assassin.
Anon it was assisted suicide because Curze was schizo and wanted to prove that his vision of Emperor killing him was true. He let it happen to validate his vision. He could have stopped her before she even set foot on planet, before she entered his castle and even naked he could kill her no problem, but he didn't and allowed her to chop his head off just to prove a point.
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>>94825766
>>94825778
>>94825803
>I thought you liked options, so why are you complaining about bad options?

See, at first I thought you were just retarded on purpose, but I'm starting to think you genuinely believe this, and now I'm sad
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>>94827039
> That’ll be 75$ please!
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>>94827039
Isn't 6 their lucky number?
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>>94827039
Six, article literally confirms
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>>94827024
yes
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>>94826922
Esl kun
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>>94827051
>even if the avatar has had demonic rules from time to time through the editions
Anon he had daemon rules for as long as he had rules, and daemon keyword as long as there were keywords. He was even mentioned in daemonhunters codex as one of reasons why Malleus would fight Craftworlders.
>>94827010
Khaine isn't, he's a god, Avata is his daemon, fragment of his godly essence just like chaos daemons are parts of chaos gods.
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>>94827039
They aren't they're 6. The box says it comes with 2 units of 6. Makes sense because that's Slaanesh's number. Granted they didn't do that with Berzerkers or Rubrics but whatever.
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>>94827039
Theres 12 in the box
They come in 6s
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>>94827009
Don't care didn't ask
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>>94827077
Yeah well I said it anyway faggot eat shit.
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EC is the first chaos army I am interested in consooming
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>>94827046
>>94827047
>>94827056
>>94827066
>>94827067
>>94827073
>>94827076
>its 6 therefor its okay
should be a unit of 5, its only 6 because GW hates people with older armies
I cant say, buy a unit of FW kakophoni to use
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would you buy the tankbustas for 62 USD / 50 pound equivalent, /40kg/? im getting a little desperate
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>>94827009
Glad you're happy about a faction release.
I'm too addicted to third party guard because I love chunky heroic scale to be excited for nearly anything guard related from GW.
>ever since the TS got their update back in late 2016 I think
That was one of the best modern remasters of miniatures ever. I think the Emperor's Children marines are well done too, but I don't recall many Emperor Children CSM being made that much so I don't think there was much to work with. Maybe that's why it took so long for the EC to get a remaster.
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another day, another guard model

Cadia stans
simple as
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>>94827109
wew lad what coomer video is this from?
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>>94827049
If I just wanted a friendly list that still had some stuff to do then maybe something like this
Char1: 1x Mek (45 pts): Kustom mega-slugga, Wrench
Char2: 1x Warboss (75 pts): Kombi-weapon, Twin slugga, Attack squig, Power klaw

10x Boyz (80 pts)
• 1x Boss Nob: Big choppa, Slugga
• 9x Boy: 9 with Choppa, Slugga

5x Lootas (50 pts)
• 4x Loota: 4 with Close combat weapon, Deffgun
• 1x Spanner: Close combat weapon, Kustom mega-blasta
5x Stormboyz (65 pts)
• 1x Boss Nob: Slugga, Choppa
• 4x Stormboy: 4 with Choppa, Slugga
1x Deff Dread (120 pts): Stompy feet, 2x Big shoota, Rokkit launcha, Rokkit launcha
1x Trukk (65 pts): Big shoota, Spiked wheels
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>>94827109
>When the Guardsman plays the Uno Reverse card during a raid, legally allowing him to take a Dark Eldar home
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>>94825701
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>>94827121
thats not too bad desu
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WITNESS ME OH DARK GODS
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>>94827128
there's a third pinhead with the lord
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>>94827072
>Khaine isn't, he's a god, Avata is his daemon, fragment of his godly essence
His avatard aren't daemons either.
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>>94827103
it's 6 because 6 is Slaanesh's funny number.
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>>94825701
>>94827128
>pinheads
Why did they do that?
To link to dark eldars or something?
Is it old lore or anything I missed?
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>>94827128
>>94827136
Fucking coneheads.
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>>94827135
>death guard have crawlers as big pieces
>thousand sons have the vortex beast
>world eaters have the lord of skull
what big piece will you use for the pinkies?
I say a soulgrinder wouldn't look too shabby amidst them.
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>>94825922
Hello I am here again.
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>>94827135
these things look so goofy to me
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>>94827159
Chaos looks like shit, yes.
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>>94827145
>Slaanesh is the God of Perfection
>The Eldar created Slaanesh
>Eldar utilize cone helmets
>Slaaneshi worshippers emulate the cone helmets
>Cones are perfection
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>>94827153
Still haven't got a clue really. Maybe Shalaxi Helbane or something, idk.
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>>94827039
Just curious, are noise marine guitar or bass?
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>>94827168
got a 3d printer?
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>>94827145
not sending your brightest are you guys
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>>94827176
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>>94827176
>>94827182
Neither of these scream "Slaanesh" to me
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>>94827153
land raider with speakers on top
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>>94827182
or these to convert a chaos knight, I think
https://cults3d.com/en/users/Cenobyte6/3d-models
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>>94827153
>TSons can take the Vortex Beast
>WE can't take the Slaughterbrute
¿Por que?
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>>94827185
Secondary. These are classic.
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>>94827159
The LoS as a whole is pretty brutal. The treads, the blood tanks and shit.
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>>94827177
But people call me crazy for pointing out that Be'lakor also has a conehead and is implied he was a non human who ascended and thus must likely an eldar
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>>94827156
nice
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>>94827120
>video
videos, actually
it's just a lewd cosplay slut doing her thing
https://www.instagram.com/kittilittl/?hl=en
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>>94827177
>Why did they do that?
>To link to dark eldars or something?
Are you supposed to be a bright one?
>>94827197
Jesse what the fuck are you on about
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>>94827195
Classically dogshit, yeah
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>>94827197
are bloodletters all eldar too?
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What do you think of the new GSC releases?
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>>94827185
They used to be slaanesh's demon engines in epic
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>>94827219
The only slaaneshi thing on them is the crab claws on the first one
Without that nothing differentiates them as a slaaneshi unit
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>>94827197
>Be'lakor also has a conehead
not any more than bloodletters do, in fact he does so less with the new model
>is implied he was a non human
no, it absolutely isn't, he comes from the old world, from a human tribe
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>>94827197
No, it's not implied. He was a human from the fantasy world. He has elements from all the daemons of the four. Bloodletters are cone-headed.
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>>94827227
>>94827228
fantasy is not canon
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>>94827226
?
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>>94827231
but fantasy is canon
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>>94827218
But bro
Those are Nurgle Cultists
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>>94827231
he's literally from there, if fantasy is not canon then belakor isn't canon
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>>94827233
>third party model
>overdesigned trash
name a more iconic duo
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when is 11e
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The Flawless Host scheme would look fucking sick on the new EC models
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>>94827237
>>94827239
if fantasy is canon then aos is canon which means the horned rat is a full chaos god and slaanesh is in jail
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>We have Cain and Jurgen at home
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>>94827218
>>94827238
jokes on you they're malstrain hybrids
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>>94827249
>horned rat is a full chaos god
40k skaven when
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>>94827251
that cant be jurgen he doesnt look like he smells enough
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>>94825204
The new blood angels upgrade sprue is uniquely bad. See the black Templars primaris upgrade sprue for reference
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>>94827240
you and virginity
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>>94827265
epic comeback, muhammad
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>>94827249
Time is convoluted in the Warp.
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>>94827249
correct
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>>94827251
imagine if they did release a random guardsman who could one shot daemons with a lasgun
poor little daemon players...
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>>94827251
Honestly, why the fuck do they refuse to make Cain and company?
It's not like "he's dead" is an excuse when Gaunt is a squad you can take, not even legends
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>>94827280
is cain dead?
you absolute nigger did you really just spoil the series?
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>tfw missed the reveal

did lucius the ugly fucker get a new model?
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>>94827280
We have to deal with DEI squads until the 20th
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>>94827288
Please be bait...
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>>94827288
He's a guard character so of course he's dead or otherwise MIA from the tabletop.
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>>94827041
Tabletop ruled are far more canon than fluff. Mechanics come before fluff.

Primary v Secondary sources, friend.
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>>94827293
if only there was a website run by GW that had all the reveals on it...
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>>94827293
yes
he's ugly and with a cartoonishly zigzagged mouth and nobody cares
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>>94827288
Cain is a regular human so he's obviously dead since the timeline has moved forward by a couple hundred years since his introduction
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>>94827288
It is said several times that you are reading his memories edited by Inq. Vail
Also he has been listed as dead lots of times and he wasn't.
So who knows?
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>>94827288
It's referenced multiple times in the series that Cain is perpetually listed as active, because any time they label him as KIA he somehow shows back up somewhere. Usually with Jurgen in tow.
As I recall, the 'furthest along' update on his status says he was deployed during the 13th Black Crusade, though without any other details.
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>>94827309
bro
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>>94827317
He's dead and buried with honours, he died at some point in the 13th Abaddon tantrum, but he's been MIA so much that they just list him as MIA instead of dead
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>>94827323
they're not gonna waste those resources on a commisar, sister
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>>94827323
Are you stupid, you are reading Cain's memoirs in his books. He's stated to be dead
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>>94827330
bro in first book hes already over 100 years old
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>>94827330
Are you all so fucking new that you haven't read a single Cain book?
He lived to 200 and something due to his affiliation with the inquisition
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>>94825222
>every Daemons player
all 5 of them
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>>94827345
Im one of them
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>>94827293
It's in the OP you doofus
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>>94825204
>Are they getting worse
Yes
GW tris to cram too many niche into a single kit instead of making multiple small ones.

Take the BA upgrades;
The multiple pads means you buy 1 per squad
But at the same time it's full of 1 time use bits like the terminator bits.
Also every type of pads are in it, so if you don't use bladeguards, phobos, gravis, or even termies, well though shit, the standard marine pads are in this pack, you'll get them anyway!

The real solution was to make multiple smaller upgrade packs; want to upgrade your phobos to be BA? Buy the phobos pack. Want more BA pads for your intercessors? Buy the BA pads. Want to make Death Company marines? DC pack!

But instead what was essential half a dozen kits and updrages sprues was all merged into one pack that DOES NOT EVEN WORK as you don't even have enough pads for a single intercessor squad.

TL;DR: They're shitty upgrades because GW wanted to spend as little as possible while being able to say "we have customization!" and get paid for it.

t. own multiple Dark Angel upgrade packs
(ravenwing, old DA, 2x small firstborn sprue, 2x old primaris small sprue, 2x new primaris upgrade pack)
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>>94827350
I'm so sorry, anon. I hope you get your chaos daemons army.
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>>94825222
How is this a problem? Daemons are just flavor units for Chaos Mortals.
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What's this trend about making units of three for elite guys now?

>>94825204
>They literally only give you one half of a fucking stormbolter
>Just one fucking half
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>>94827344
why would you waste time reading about normal humans? marine books are more interesting
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>>94827350
the fuck are you doing here
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>>94827202
I do appreciate when they take the time to have good costumes
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Should Newrecruit and Unitcrunch be added to the OP under "community links?"
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>>94827368
newrecruit 1000000000000% should
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>>94826090
this image is making fun of you
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>>94827368
They were there but got removed by the throoder
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>>94827368
What's that?
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>>94827352
>GW wanted to spend as little as possible
Literally would not work any other way from a business perspective. Only a neckbeard retard without any sense for logistics would think 6+ SKUs for one sub faction that aren’t even needed to play said faction on the tabletop would be feasible
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>>94827365
yeah, that cosplay slaps
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>>94827389
OP is abbreviated from the two words Original Poster. It refers to the person he started the thread.
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>>94827368
Newrecruit and arguably wahapedia should be in the OP
Unitcrunch is a compfag number crunching and fun destroying site, fuck that shit
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>>94827389
newrecruit is the new battlescribe because the creator has effectively abandoned it and left it to some dedicated people that don't know a better alternative to keep it on life support. The thing is basically brain dead but its heart is still beating. It is honestly time to move on from Battlescribe.

Unitcrunch is for mathhammer autists.
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>>94827352
>Remember me...
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>image limit reached
New thread

>>94827414

>>94827414

>>94827414
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>>94827420
Why did you create 3 new threads?
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>>94827433
1 real thread and 2 containment threads for admech players
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>>94827392
Yeah I'm sure that making multiple unique kits for a subfaction would be stupid, which is why it was done for DAs, BAs and SWs.
Anyway did you enjoy the new reveals for the new unique EC kits?
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>>94827302
>>94827351
i just wanted someone to post a jpeg, i cbf going to the gw website

>>94827303
thats a shame
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>>94827413
It's incredible how the mere fact of having helmet variation and different decorations on each guy makes a standard box of marines so fucking cool
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>>94826032
>one female character for each setting at any given time
Say it ain't so!
>>94826218
It was, more or less. They'd only just started fighting other Marines, and the Tau, Necrons, and Tyranids hadn't even shown up, so outside of Orks and random Xenos ruling over stolen worlds, it was pretty easy breezy for Marines (comparatively speaking).
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>>94827445
False equivalency, you’re comparing cosmetic upgrade kits to kits for faction-specific, playable units. No one needs to buy a Phobos kit and a Phobos upgrade sprue to play those units in their marine flavor of choice. Want to play sanguinary guard or inner circle companions? You just buy one kit
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>>94827504
No one needs to buy any of those kits actually
You can just paint them in a different color.
No one needed a different kit for death company marines, sanguinary guard, inner circle companions, etc.

These kits exist because people wanted it.

>false equivalency
You lost the internet debate before it even began, get shafted you baby dicked loser, pwn'd ur ass
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>>94827522
>you lost the internet debate before it even began
True, it was silly of me to say anything about the viability of having too many product offerings in a money-sink hobby like this
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>>94827582
Thank god GW is smart enough to be sparse in their range offering
anyway did you like the new marine releases?
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>>94826561
I think there'd be less griping in general if the upgrade sprues were better for everyone. I'd like if the Dark Fury squad and Mor Deythan got new releases, but I'd also be fine if the Raven Guard upgrade sprue was more than a single bolter (which lost its unique profile), a grenade arm, and then general iconography. I know they probably wanna keep it "cheap" in a single blister, but a chapter upgrade box filled with unique weapon designs and armor shit would be a nice exchange for deleting half the Space Marines' chapter identities.
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>>94826716
>Reading BLslop by mohawk braindead asshole
Lol, lmao even
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>>94827592
You sound like a broken record, I already admitted I was wrong. Still, I’d like to see how the sales numbers for upgrade sprues compare to chapter-specific units
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>>94825186
FUCK GW
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>>94827676
I'd say it depends on the kit and faction, I don't suspect new upgrades kit to sell that much, then again I bought a lot of them

But my guess would be that specific unit kits sell more because people don't overthink it and will
1) buy the kit to play the unit
2) build the kit as the instruction says, period

Upgrade kits are already pretty niche, doesn't mean they don't have demand (that's me, I'm the demand)
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>>94827446
>i just wanted someone to post a jpeg, i cbf going to the gw website

IT'S
IN
THE
OP

IT IS THE PICTURE IN THE ORIGINAL POST
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>>94825751
why does this cunt get 2 models while we've never gotten a fucking Ciaphas Cain model depsite the amount of novels/stories he's been in?
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>>94827747
because he's dead?
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>>94827756
Gaunt died centuries before the current time in 40k and he still has his unit.
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>>94827707
Yeah I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t immediately buy any new BA upgrade sprues if GW released more
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>>94827446
Do I look like I know what a 'jpeg' is?
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>>94827778
I said a while ago I'd buy 2 of the old BA tac squad if they re released it and I stand by my words
The old world bringing back old plastic kits give me much hope, my wallet is quaking
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FUCK GW
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>>94827900
why do you wanna fuck james what are you gay
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>>94827769
wtf gaunt is dead? why the fuck would you not spoil your text?
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>>94828367
FUCK TENTH EDITION
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>>94828469
youre gonna have to wait until 18e otherwise i have to contact the authorities for being a child molestor
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>>94826825
There's nothing wrong with this, 1k points is the superior way to play Warhammer. I have 6 1k point armies I use all the time
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>>94826761
Vect doesn't care because he already has a waifu, Lady Malys
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>>94828484
fucking projecting weirdo deep strike yourself
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gw can burn in hell



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