Big robot editionPrevious Heresy:>>94816195>New to The Horus Heresy? Here’s Everything You’ll Need to Get Startedhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/30/new-to-the-horus-heresy-heres-everything-youll-need-to-get-started/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/2.0_Tactics/General_Tactics>HH1 Black Books<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>NqlCmSpI>HH2 Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>1rki2Q6D>Miscellaneous Extras (Visions and Old Rules)<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>Q61izSiS『Adeptus Titanicus and Legionis Imperialis』>Adeptus Titanicus Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>IukARSLT>Legiones Imperialis Rules and Supplements<slash>folder<slash>hrVRQLJA#wGHrhiBVzl21Gb_Vu6U67w<slash>folder<slash>Fi9kQSwB>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.orug/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>homemade missions:https://clawsandfists.blogspot.com/2019/09/matched-play-missions-for-adeptus.html>Thread question:What are your most and least favourite things about your faction? Can be fluffwise, rulewise or modelwise.
>>94828821>What are your most and least favourite things about your faction? Can be fluffwise, rulewise or modelwise.>Dangels >Most Favorite I really like great swords because i like the idea of terminators swinging zweihander. >Least favoriteI hate that our RoW are actually detrimental to us. >Thousand sonsI like the candy red, and i like space wizardsI dont like that our space wizard powers kinda suck ass aside form 1 power.
You know what, lads? I fucking love pushing hideously expensive, yet lovingly painted and assembled, plastic and resin model soldiers at eachother. I mean, the rest of the world has gone mad. It's just marvellous.
>>94828876Based and correct opinion.While the rest of the world is going to shit im out here pushing my Preator on a Jet bike up the table going "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW"
>HH has the least interesting reveal of all gamesI mean whoo plastic thanatars, but every other game got a proper announcement of a bunch of stuff
>>94829181We got better stuff than Kill Team and better stuff than Underworlds.
>>94829263Those games aren't real.
>>94828821>favoriteI love the frothing berserkers with moments of clarity and introspection. It's a nice narrative contrast.>least favoriteOur rules are a fucking joke. Falax Blades carry the entire legion because of what I'm convinced is a typo (Breaching 4+ would make more sense with other balance choices GW made), Rampagers are only "great" because they get falax blades en masse, and every other option that's not a named character is dogshit. Red Butchers are a complete joke that leaves World Eaters with no useful Terminator melee except command squads, unless for some reason you need to bully a power armor squad with triple the points investment (including transport). Red Hands would be interesting if they weren't horrifically overpriced. Inductii are an active downgrade to an already meh at best unit, as is putting the character "upgrade" on any character at all.The sad thing is it's entirely "small" issues that could be fixed with a single round of errata. Make Ravening Madmen apply to ID thresholds and Red Butchers & Inductii instantly become... not "good" in the same league as some legions, but serviceable. Adjust one or two numbers on the non-Falax Caedere weapons and suddenly they're fine. Tinker with Red Hand points and they'd be a nice alternative to regular destroyers. These are not huge, sweeping changes. But GW isn't going to make them.
>>94828821>What are your most and least favourite things about your faction? Can be fluffwise, rulewise or modelwise.Blood Angels have cool fluff and a nice selection of models. Stuff like the ofanim court is cool in concept, being secret vampire hunters within the legion. I do love the overall legion aesthetic, definitely on the fancier side of things.Rulewise I find them to be a bit mediocre. Nothing that prevents them from winning or being decent, but +1 to wound is a bit boring in my opinion.I hate that Sanguinius is practically mandatory for that +1 WS, feels like BA can’t actually compete without it as a melee legion compared to DA or SW, though that’s more of a issue with the current weapon skill system. Certain units are also noticeably weaker than their contemporaries, like crimson paladins or ofanim court.Honestly, a lot of units in HH 2.0 need a revision. Small changes to buff some units and debuff others, but GW doesn’t seem to think HH needs any sort of balancing compared to 40k.
>>94829181You will get your tanks and consuls and you will like them. Proper plastic infantry units? Keep waiting bucko.I am happy for mechanicum bros though. They’ve certainly been waiting long enough.
>>94828821>TQ>MostIH have become the loyalist equivalent of the WE/DG plague fleets, effectively uncontrollable rogue that will do as much damage as possible and you can only really hope they go in the right direction.>LeastNo dedicated melee weapons, IW got grav hammers, and I can't give nullificators Gorgon armor
Shotguns are really stupid and I will not be giving my reconnaissance squad shotguns
>>94828876>>94828981NOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Do you think I could get away with blue volkite in my mechanicum without people mistaking it for plasma?
>>94829888You're loss anon
>>94829920I lose nothing because they are stupid
>>94829914I think you should go with whatever complements your color scheme.
>>94828844I thought the 1.0 idea of DA having a generic faction rule then paying for additional Hexagrammaton rules was pretty cool, even if most of those rules were just bad.The current method just funnels you into always taking the same wing for a particular unit or the RoWs that just make you take wings that do nothing for certain units.
>>94828821Pray for me boys, i have fired up the Manafactoriums.I am building my warhound for my 3k list.
>>94829914If you paint your volkite anything other than copper you're a faggot.
>>94830067Well the current method is like you said in regards to some units just take specific wings. But all the RoW that dangels have actually hurt you more then they help you.
>>94829888Snipers it is then!
>>94830069Godspeed, anon. Keep us posted.
>>94829953Can't know the value until you have it and lose it, anon
>>94830067The Hexagrammaton rules in HH1 weren't bad, they were just massively over costed for what they did, even with the ability to stack different wings. For example: 25 points to re-roll Run, Fallback, and Thrust is ridiculous, but paying 5-10 points for it is fair. Same goes for the Hekatonystika abilities, too little bang for your buck.
my fast attack choices are a dreadclaw pod, a storm eagle, and a conversion beamer sniper predator
>>94830413How droll
>>94828821>TQWord Bearers>Most FavoriteYou can soup Demons, Marines, and Cultists together with reasonable effectiveness, which is what I've enjoyed since Vraks.>Least FavoriteGal Vorbak have to take Dreadclaws, and I hate the drop pods that can float around after they drop. I just think it's stupid and a waste of the awesome aesthetic of drop pods.
>>94828821/hhg/ what do you think of my house rule ideaPower Lance: Any model that has the cavalry keyword or is equipped with a jump pack, and has the ability to take a power spear may upgrade that power spear to a power lance for 5 additional points on top of the cost of the power spear itself.Power lance uses the same profile of the power spear, but is 2 handed, and gains the following on the first round of combat in which they successfully made a charge move. +1 str, Breaching 4+
>>94828821TQ: Alpha legion.Least fave: I am Alpharius memes.Fave: I like your toys, they are mine now, also two wound shotgun marines.Dark Mech:Least Fave: No real official models to use.Fave: No real official models to use, so I can convert a lot of it.
Progress is slow, but at least they're primed now.
>>94828821i have a question in regards to justaerin, in how you guys equip themso there's basically 2 choices i was looking at1) 2 with tabars and 2 with thunder hammers and 1 with Multi Melta and Tabar and all with banestrike bolters2) option was to make them all Tabars (1 guy with multi melta) and with Combi Meltasi am also hesitant of thunder hammers, as they don't really fit sons of horus to my eyes
>>94830657Your eyes are stupid then. Zero point of them not having thunder Hammers if they are available.
>>94830550Step one is done bro, just gotta keep going at your best pace, and they will be done. Don't stress yourself out or it sucks out all the fun right?>>94830687Yes... Let the WAAC flow...
>>94830687the kind of neurotic response i needed, nice.thanks for the confirmation, i will use the tabars then
>>94830724Make giant two handed power polearms, bigger than a terminator. Use as tabars or hammers depending on your mood.
>>94828821They lean heavily in to Skill Unmatched on their unique consul and both of their unique units only for it to to end up actively harming you in two of the three modes against equal opponents (the thing you're up against in 9/10 matches in the space marine game), with the third only being a situational boost if you're gambling on a combat resolution draw and your target isn't stubborn/inexorable/fearless, in which case it's probably not an elite unit in the first place and you should have just not used Skill Unmatched to get an extra attack in.
>>94830724> Horus literally has THE Thunder Hammer World Breaker, crafted by the fucking Emperor himself> I don't see them as a SoH weaponLiteral retardation> it's a Mace!!!It's unwieldly it's a thunder hammer
>>94828821>favourite thing about ECTheir LA trait is arguably the best in terms of both gameplay and narrative. Everyone is just straight up better if things go their way, even a lowly tactical marine, but if they underestimate their opponent and end up stuck in the mud they're no better than anyone else. It's all about that killing cut.>least favourite thing about ECThey lean heavily in to Skill Unmatched on their unique consul and both of their unique units only for it to to end up actively harming you in two of the three modes against equal opponents (the thing you're up against in 9/10 matches in the space marine game), with the third only being a situational boost if you're gambling on a combat resolution draw and your target isn't stubborn/inexorable/fearless, in which case it's probably not an elite unit in the first place and you should have just not used Skill Unmatched to get an extra attack in.
Do you guys have any recommendations for someone who wants to get into HH with Solar Auxilia? I know it's gonna be hard mode, etc etc but is there any units I should avoid or should I just go full narrative and build whatever the fuck I want? I've heard flyers are really bad. I was going to do a tank heavy mechanised Tallarn force with lots of walkers too.
>>94829920Wait a second, I know that saboteur from somewhere
>>94831003You should be making whatever you think is cool no matter what, doubly so with SA and Militia because you're playing for the vibe and barely trying to eek out a win. The SA leman russ vanquishers and executioners are really good, and their infantry can put out a ridiculous amount of firepower, even if its strength 3. Their laser destroyer rapiers are also stupid good for how much they cost.
>>94830897It's not, game rules are transient models are real, and it's modeled as a mace.
>>94830897>Weapon described in every single piece of canon as a maul/mace is a thunder hammer just because it has unwieldy on tabletopit's you who has literal retardation lmao
>>94830505Lovely conversion
>>94831003Take Leman Russ Vanquishers. You can decide how powerful your army will be on that basis. Everything else is really just dressing.
>>94830829i did have an idea that i could give the squad "leader" a power maul and say it's a thunder hammer while the rest have tabars and of course combi meltas wtih chain bayonets for coolness
>>94830897>Power fistIt's unwieldy it's a thunder hammer
>>94830897Man haha metaphysics haha
>>94831003A tank list is a good idea, because your army lives and dies based on how many Vanquisher cannons you have. S9, AP2, Heavy 2, Brutal 2 is an extremely good stat line for any weapon, especially one on a durable platform with a 72" range. It's your go-to anti-everything tool and any list without multiple is just going to lose against even a bad Legion list.
>>94831563>>94831372What about Exterminators? I like the plasma turret better.
>>94828876Only way to do it. Make models you like yourself. My dudes look horrible close up, even worse in pictures, but from 1m away on the table they are just right. And for others their models are just right
>>94831482Damn Storm Axes are thunder Hammers now? Finally the Buff auxilia needed.
>>94831362>>94831482Thunder hammer alignment chart time? >X axis: A thunder hammer is a hammer/a thunder hammer is a blunt weapon/a thunder hammer is used to hit things >y axis: a thunder hammer is AP2 brutal, Unwieldy/a thunder hammer does multiple wounds and is Unwieldy/a thunder hammer is Unwieldy
>>94831674I heard the plasma was the next best option so it's probably ok?Certainly not on the same level as vanquisher.
>>94831679>but from 1m away on the table they are just rightYou should probably go see... go meet an optician.
The new 40k EC looks like a great option for an overseer, he even has a whip
Anyone made custom banners? I’m shit at greenstuff sculpting, wondering if there’s a better way to do itPic isn’t mine, just one I found online
>>94831993Thats uh... thats 40k Lucius anon
>>94831820I can't leave my home. 4th floor , no elevator. And again l know how thry look in pictures, l make those. From 1m or further away they are fine.
The EC announcnments got me thinking. Would a Splinter fleet of EC led by a Praetor whose obsession with history led him to believe he was the physical reincation of napoleon bonapartet and who briefly went to war with a SOH force thinking they were swiss mercenaries be too much? He and his fleet would die in a waterloo style space battle as he tried to flank beta garmon
>>94832070You should get your pipes replaced
>>94832011They turned Lucius into a kit with three different helmets, a phoenix spear, two pistols, a whip, and no laer blade? You sure? Retard.
>>94832106>the man who sold the Imperium
>>94831674eh, the Executioner is ok but is shit compared to the vanquisher which is the only good turret option by a mile. The vanquisher is so good, and by that I mean all the weapons should be about this level, you question why the other options even exist.You will find that over half of the SA units are absolute shit, do not take if you want a chance of winning.>TQSA: why do we really only have 1 heavy tank option? The other choices are priced so stupidly it makes no sense to take them. Also why do the vehicle squadron rules blow this hard? Having a fully kitted out Legate Marshal and crew fuck up some named Marine commander and retinue is fun as fuck.
>>94832070ESL fingers typed this post.
Thoughts on using a forge lord to run some thallax in an iron hands army.They seem pretty cool and it would be nice to have some more line units, especially if I've read it right and they get the -1 str rule too.
>>94832342Forge Lords are a powerhouse and thallax are also strong.
Should I get 1 or two mechanicum boxes?
>>94832303Idk, it reads more as functional illiteracy from some American trump supporter.
>>948324922 LIGMA mecganicum boxes
>>94828821Finished up my first ligma battlegroup so my titans look better in scale.Stil nobody playing the game though.
>>94832006If you're not married to the idea of a banner, just make a cool icon instead.
>>94832612Why not?These models look awesome
am I correct in understanding that bretheren of iron RoW does not grant the robots the legiones astartes rule?whats the point in taking it then?
>>94832651Too small.
>>94832780There is none, especially since you can only even get 1 of the best automata. Its awful, just take mech allies and paint them in your Legion scheme.
>>94832106no need to to be offensive anon. clearly the other anon ment the actual Lucius model, who does happen to have a whip, and not the multi purpose EC lord [insart stupid modern w40k name here].
I thought I was going to be lazy and just not paint the metallic trim on my MkIIIs because it's a pain in the ass, but I did one out of curiosity and it really just looks so much better.
>>94828821What I like most about my faction is that they're Mine.What I like least is that they're not all painted yet.
>>94832780it's thematic, and it allows you to take robots even when you really want to take marines and you're limited to a single detachment (eg Zone Mortalis)but also if you're one of the 14 Legions that can't be Sworn Brothers with Mechanicum it allows you to take advantage of bullshit like Forge Lord Warlord Traits for WS5 Vorax (Solar Marshal) or pseudo-Paragon (Silver-Iron Will), or abusing special rules like Lock-step (which can give you WS6 Vorax) and Iron Bulwark etc
I'm gonna make it, guys.
>>94833562We're all gonna make it
>>94833562i am not making it out alive in the end, what is left is the big question
>>94831070Delete this
>>94832646Icon? Woah what is this some kind of cult?
>>94833998Don't listen to Magnus and you will be fine bro
>>94830550Cool, are these Destroyers? How did you get so many hand flamers?
>>94832651tech priest auxilia is CUTE
WIP Sons of Horus Chaplain in Cataphractii. Literally just done the face and mask so far.I'm torn on how to paint him. Red and black is my obvious choice, but I worry it'll be a bit too close to Justerin like that? I'll probably end up committing to it anyway, even though he's planned to run with a unit of normal Cataphractii at the moment I'm sure he'll lead Justerin one day.
>>94834648>Sons of Horus Chaplainif those existed as more than overseers/military police, they wouldn't be wearing skull helmets like WB
>>94834697Good thing this one is deeply imbedded in one of the first Warrior Lodges and was firmly converted on Davin.
>>94834697SoH has more than enough edgelords to have at least one chaplain wearing a skull helmet.
