Blood in the Badlands Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>TOW: https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>94833517>Thread Question:What's the pitch to your ideal playable campaign?
>TQWe only play tournaments here
>>94844186I'm hoping they do a Great War on Chaos campaign, but that's probably way too grand in scope compared to the size if the game.
>>94844199what would you consider Faggot art anon?
First for orcs.
>>94844211this kind of bullshit
>>94844194how was LVO for TOW?all I learnt that GW was willing to official support it if the organizers didn't let Legacy armies be played in it which the organizers refused
>>94844226gw are fucking pathetic, they need to let go of this legacy meme
>>94844221Since you posted "coomer weaboo" art, you should keep your word and strangle yourself for posting gay faggot art.
How degenerate are Empire Nobles in TOW?
>>94844218>4th post>picture isnt even of gorbad ironclaw
>>94844218is that a green squig in the bottom left?
>>94844075They're a little bit dusty and very hairy, but you can probably fix that by using tweezers to pick up all the hair, then using a blow dryer. Maybe. Other than that, I think they look quite nice! The banner is cool, I like the icy weapon effect you did and the basing is nice too.
>>94844243yes
>>94844243About as degenerate as IRL renaissance nobles i.e. not very much. I mean there's some fucking around, but not really to excess.
>>94844243it varies a lot between location, wealth, piety to certain Gods vs other Gods, or if they are Slaanesh cultists or not, which probably a good third of Imperial Nobles end up at some point
>>94844262Yea, I dont know if thats the varnish or because I didnt dust them off prior and didnt notice how dusty they got.
>>94844230>>94844226Did they ever errata the vampire count degeneracy that banshees and mortis engines dished out?
Can Wizards make a regular attack using their Attack characteristics in addition to the Assailment spell, or is it an either-or scenario? I'm just trying to think of the viability of running an Illusion Wizard in a fighter unit with Spectral Doppleganger. On paper it looks fun, but I'm afraid that the 2d6 attacks will just average out at whatever their usual attack score is.
>>94844253Yeah. Squigs can be any colour. Red is common because it contrasts with the green, but they can be any colour out there.
>>94844253yeah, squigs come in all shapes, sizes and colours, despite the bouncy red ball with teeth and legs being the most common and famous ones.depending on your view of greenskins' origins and reproduction, that would mean that orcs and goblins too could have the potential to come in all sorts of different forms and colours, and that the dominant green ones simply beat the shit of everything coming up "not proper"
>>94844296That has to be my favourite Greenskin Artwork.
>>94844266You mean the period when kings routinely died from overeating at feasts?
>>94844266Are we talking "renaissance" renaissance, or Versailles under the Sun King Degeneracy "renaissance"?
>>94844299It has some fucking cool stuff between the squiggoth, the dwarf statue and floating runic drakkar, also the ominously huge and barely visible giant on the bridgebut my absolute favourite part is the design of the evil sun, the curved tusks and especially ones represented by real tusks mounted on the shield, it's a perfect development for that classic symbol
Most of these characters don't wear shoes.
>>94844396Nor bras.
>>94844396>women getting into a bloodbath over a disagreement over a dioramathe real fetish being catered to here
>>94844367Northern Renaissance pre-30 years War DegeneracySun King stuff is left for when Brettonia
>>94844392It is cool, but at the same time seems to be such a high stakes battle it would have to be the final act of some grand Waagh against a major holds last ditch effort to mobilize anything they got. So either from the Grobi Wars, where it would probably be less noteworthy, or it should be a legendary battle in its own right.
>>94844396>three casters vs a hybrid fighter/caster and two melee charactersthis seems unfair
>>94844367>>94844425Why not the North-Northeastern Flanders early-mid Renaissance/proto-semi Baroque during the time of Mayor Geemfland of Flanderstown?
>>94844447>North-Northeastern Flanders early-mid Renaissance/proto-semi Baroque during the time of Mayor Geemfland of Flanderstown?could you at least provide specific art of that?
>>94844367Nobody classifies the Versailles era as Renaissance. It ended in early 17th century when the final vestiges of the Medieval society were well and truly gone.
>>94844211>posts Thaggoraki-Trombaraki-WazzokYou've just posted a good example.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5vNwo7gNiU
>>94844463
>>94844463>>94844478You read my mind.
>>94844478damn it anon you should spoiler that degeneracy anon
>>94844447>>94844425You jest, but it's an important distinction.Degeneracy reached its peak in different places at different times. France was rather tame and catholic until Lois 14th blew all his GDP on coke and hookers, but places like Venice have been degenerate shitholes from 1400 to 1500 already.Meanwhile German Cities would have been rather degenerate in the late 1400s and early 1500s, but the Reformation Wars would cause a lot of protestant puritanism and cut down on the Degeneracy, while the 30 years war pretty much prevented most late Renaissance degeneracy outside some select courts like Vienna, who wouldn't reach their prime until the mid 1700s.Meanwhile, the Netherlands were never that degenerate, too prudish and autistic for that.Then you got places like the US who are peaking in terms of Degeneracy only now.
>>94844502I've got your important dick-stink-tion right here lmaofaoa
>>94844514I admit, that was a mildly entertaining post.
>have a game tuesday>dont have the cavalry bases i need nor can anyone locally print themoh shit what do?
>>94844529use a movement tray
>>94844542just blu-tac the models onto it?
>>94844547yeah?
>>94844551i mean i guess its worth a shot
>>94844502>king francis wasn't degenerateWhat the fuck am I reading?
going away until Aprilwhat are the chances Beastmen get released before I return?
>>94844553Not the peak.
>>94844555Poor.
>>94844555minimal I would say 15-20% chanceHigh elves I would expect in late February or early March timeframe
>>94844555>before you returnLow>just as you returnPretty good
>>94844555A decent chance. From now until April should be more than enough time to reveal & release everything HE-related, with Beastmen being next on the line.
>>94844018>mfw I clicked on those videos and now half of YT recommendations come from that stock
>>94844573Go into your history, and remove them from your watch history. Then you'll stop being recommended stuff.
>>94844573>clicks on algorythm bait brainpoisonwhat did you expect?
>>94844555I would say low. I dont expect HE until at least february, which means they will finish (wave 2) around march or so.
>>94844558As far as Renaissance rulers are concerned, yes he is. Louis XIV wasn't Renaissance by any stretch.
>>94844598I am aware, but the question was not who and who isn't renaissance, the question was if the renaissance was anywhere near as degenerate as people accuse it of when the truly degenerate courts only came about after the Renaissance.
>>94844293You can do both. The wizard casts assailments on his initiative, but depending on the weapon he has he attacks and casts Spectral Doppelganger on his modified initiative. So, if you're using a weapon that has Strikes Last, but you also have other assailments, your wizard can cast Hammerhand on his normal initiative and then attack and cast Spectral Doppelganger on initiative 1.
>>94844267So where is it worst, Marienburg?
>>948442932d6 averages out to 7.Spectral Dop HITS, not attacks. Unless your wizard has 14 attacks normally, its a boon.
>>94844655nuln
>>94844655probably but since Marianburg doesn't have any noble house there didn't apply to the original question.
>>94844669Vermintide 2 suggests that even low nobles can be hopeless degenerates.>Justus Frankce is the Baron of Ussingen and is allied with a unnamed Nurgle cult. He fled Ussingen before it was attacked by the Rotblood Tribe.
>>94844684there are other genric example in WFRP as well
>>94844711Just goes to show that stout faith in Sigmar is paramount for the high and low alike.
>>94844294Hah, the blue one in the back reminds me of a bloke who used to come to our school club back in the 90's who unironically greeted the room upon arrival with>whussup mah squiggazin a dumb fauxmerican accent. Man it was fun when you could make silly jokes and not be dragged off by the commissars to a struggle session.
>>94844733Give stirlander Deathjack gf
>>94844502Well we know the Empire is degen-AF then because the WHF not-Reformation was only just starting to become A Thing when the whole world got asploded.
>>94844638>>94844662Thank you both for the clarification! That's exactly what I was hoping for.
does a unit on a mount (e.g bloodcrushers are on juggernauts) get all the special rules of the mount, as listed in the mounts own rules section?or do they only get the rules as listed on the units base profile?juggernauts have swiftstride as listed in their own section (just after characters, in the mounts section), but bloodcrushers do not have swiftstride in their special rules section
>>94844915oops, bloodcrushers have swiftstride and I missed it, ignore that part
>tfw no C7 Old World RPG to flesh out the world
I need to finish the based and put flock on them this evening. I've really enjoyed painting these chaos warriors. What are you working on?
>>94844835Soft Elven tummies
>>94844968we are getting it this quarter apparently going by the November production update, still no information about it other than it's being produced i would guess it's going to use d6 though>Warhammer The Old World>Player’s Guide Pre-Order Q1 2025>Adventure Book Pre-Order Q1 2025>GM’s Guide Pre-Order Q1 2025>Starter Set Pre-Order Q1 2025https://cubicle7games.com/blog/November%20Cubicle%207%20Update
>>94844973Hell of a lot of Chaos Warriors there anon, I've got a real weakness for units with multiple banners. Gives it that proper horde-of-warbands feeling.I'm just finishing up on the last three Chaos Knights before I can move onto my giant.
>>94844983whaaaaaaa this is the first I've heard of this. I'm excited
>>94844994why?it's an RPG system we know fuck all about there is nothing to really be excited about. C7 are generally decent RPG writers but it does feel very unnecessary when WFRP exist and is still getting a lot of support
>>94844990I guess I'll wield them in 3 units of 10, I just ranked them up like that for the photo. The chaos knights you've posted were a charming set, but damn they're hard to rank up even with 60x30mm bases. I think the 6th edition metal knights were the coolest chaos knights gw ever did.
Finished Castle, from AI Sloppa Concept to map.I'm quite content with how it turned out, hit some pretty big roadblocks with the courtyard and general setup now and then, but mistakes into miracles as they say. The overgrown aspect was really fun to flesh out once I had the basic method figured out.
Everything thinks we're getting Cathay as the secret 10th faction, but the retiring of black knights/grave guard and replacement vampire lords in AoS makes we think we're going to see Vampire Counts fully added to TOW.
>>94844981And earsies
>>94845011I agree, love those 6th ed knights; this set was given to me as a gift so these are what I'm going with for now. I've grown to appreciate them more but to be honest it's been a grind. As for the bases, my plan was to base all my army for 6th Ed and include Old World unit trays; this unit has defeated me. I could barely get them on the 30 by 60s, a 25mm frontage would be a nightmare and I simply could not be arsed. If (when) I acquire some of the classic Knights I'll have them on the smaller bases.
>>94845027Itd make more sense to bring back demons than vampire counts at that point. Besides it’s dogs of war stop pretending it’s something as grand as Cathay.
>>94845010>why?as I said, to flesh out the world. At the moment we really just have a map with a few blurbs describing a handful of locations.
Stormvermin are assholes.
>>94845093is this Mossa or someone apeing their style?
>>94845105genuine Mossa
What do you think about these monopose boxes of 10 from back then? It looks more like the sort of models that you'd get in a 4-5 pack.Were these discounted compared to a more posable kit?Do you like them or think they were terrible?
>>94845105>>94845093Its Mossa
>>94845110>hombres bestia del caos
>>94844968>>94844983i dont understand how tow is even remotely different from warhammer fantasy why bother to make a new rpg, just play wfrpg and say its a bit in the past or whatever???
>>94845069fair enough, let's wait and see but from the single-sentence pitch on the system I'm not entirely convinced.>The Old World is a different system tailored to the setting. We'll have more updates on this soon, along with some gameplay examples, but you can expect a more accessible system that retains the unforgiving brutality that distinctive to the Warhammer World!do wonder what Soon mean though since "Soon" was also used to describe the High Elf Player Guide release which is coming out in late March. so i could expect news anytime between now and April
>>94845142it an excuse to make a Warhammer Fantasy system that doesn't use d100 that's it
>>94845105These gnoblare are so much better than those GW makes, holy shit. They actually look distinct from goblins.
>>94845093why is he murdering his own niggas? this seems very mean and rude and gross and counterproductive
>>94845142To include more gay religious figures in the empire and have elves be even more elven
>>94845156oh thats gay but okay
>>94844835I would risk incurring the wrath of Malekith for this.>>94845169It's a Skaven, if there's no foes to kill they will gladly turn on one another. 'Loyalty' is a tabboo word in their filthy tongue.
>>94845181they don't need a brand new system to do that
>>94845196Its not Morathi, why would Mally care?
>>94845196I actually feel like Malekith would be ecstatic to ship off Morathi to someone else, preferably very far away.
Anyone have any links to downloads for the official audiobooks? Specifically Gotrek and Felix ones right now.
>>94844015>>94844036show me the proof. oh wait, you can't hahahahaha faggotsso fucking pozzed this gemeration is.
>>94845330But I want more female elf models. I want elf armies that are fully female.>just play daughters of khaine broYes, this is good, but it's a different game.
>>94845373>daughters of khaineWe don't use that nuspeak here, bro.
>>94845373>I want elf armies that are fully femaleGo back.
>>94845330>show me the proofI know its before your time, but the dark elf warrior kit had pretty clear female models (the boobs give it away).
>this army has females>it's now my favorite solely for that reason
>>94845446>Guerreros Elfos Oscuros >not "Elfos Negros"
>>94845470Yes, because Oscuro is "dark" while Negro is "black". Theyre different words idiot.
Even the humans had female soldiers in the 90s lore. E.g. the Marienburg Sold Down the River RPG book (1999) has a female human sergeant named Morgaine Bauersdottir.
>>94845470that would translate to black elves, not dark elves
>>94845485Can anons lust over them for a change?
>>94845483>>94845486No, Oscuro is "obscure", whilst Negro is "dark". You idios.
>>94845491https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oscuro
>>94845458People like all male armies, ones with furries in them even.
>>94845491you dunning kruger retard, obscure has a slightly shifted sphere of connotations in english, oscuro and scuro are the correct direct translations of dark.
>>94845490Same book also confirms human x elf fucking is canon so no can do
>>94845446for your edification the issue was on high elf female warriors specifically. dark elves used to be the only elf faction that had female line troopers/captains. which made for an interesting contrast between them and high/wood elves. later on woodies would alter their lore with a retcon that made them egalitarian in almost every aspect of their culture (minus a few exceptions e.g. wild riders). which did not mirror the dark elves completely either, since their girls only were included in the mainstay troops, not any of the elite soldiery minus witch elves of course. the high elves for their part have always had men doing the fighting, pretty much without exception except for the Handmaidens of the Everqueen. no models, no lore. nadda. only by the time of 8th ed. did the idea of female high elf warriors creep in because of SJW bullshit. and note, they shot straight to the top. no soldiery were ever shown to be female, but all of a sudden girls were bossing them around.
>>94845529>dark elves used to be the only elf faction that had female line troopers/captains.only because the high elves kit were done earlier and gw didn't bother with those details, not out of some actual fluff about high elves being different from dark elves for their warrior women
>>94845483Ayy carramba!
The new models and art still have like 95% of HElf troops being men, just with some female commanders and specialists scattered around, which is how it always was.
>>94845537show me the proof
>>94845498Explain me this then?
>>94844296>>94844392Where is the squiggoth ?
>>94844243>>94845093>>94845105I hate this artist so fucking much. I hate every faggot that posts his garbage. I hope you all kick your toes on a door frame today.
>>94845603I know this is probably way too advanced concept for your retarded brain to fathom, but different languages use words differently. Dark chocolate is called black chocolate in some languages, because they are, indeed, different languages.
>>94845690They're probably korean, if that helps.
>>94844973Next step is varnishing them.
>>94845708Koreans seem to do a lot of WF these days for whatever reason probably TWW
>>94845110They are OK-ish. As an oldfag I have many of those in my armies (especially orcs and goblins, but I also have some WoC and beastmen minis from that era; I also have halberdiers but I bought them quite recently). I wouldn't recommend them tho', unless you can get them for pennies, altough since they already are 30+ years old, they kinda get pricey nowadays).Pic related.
posting models, my first 3 ogre bulls.many things to improve such as the metals/ rust, details on leather and the eyes/ teeth.Im happy with how the skin worked out though, given that im mediocre at best and wanted to steer away from contrast paints.
>>94845529For my "edification" you say?>the issue was on high elf female warriors specificallyI, specifically, mentioned the dark elf warrior kit due to its relevance in terms of showing that "well its not on the models!" is not a good argument. >since their girls only were included in the mainstay troopsAs models. which has already been established to not be a solid argument. We know there are female cold one knights for example, there are also female beastmasters and highborn. Just about the only thing where you wont find females in the dark elf army is assassins, black guard and executioners. >no models, no lorehttps://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Athiellehttps://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Eldyrahttps://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Liandrahttps://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Liandra_Athinolhttps://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Riolta_Snow
>>94845415Big cringe
>>94845690Why? Hes technically competent and someone who puts some level of thought into the work, unlike most fan-artists
>>94844364>routinelyI will need a source on that, my boy
>>94845059On the topic of getting the 7th ed plastic knights to rank up on 25x50mm bases, I've found a couple tricks that could be helpful. Do keep in mind that I had to reposition my 5th knight on his base in order to get these guys to rank up properly long after they were built and painted.1) Don't be afraid to file down or trim certain parts of the shields if you have to. It will look bad when the model is viewed on its own, but once they're ranked up it'll look fine. Probably.2) Positioning matters. That sounds like an incredibly obvious statement, but it's true. If you can make your champion, standard bearer and musician rank up properly, the 1-2 models on the sides just need to be moved further to the left or right side of their base. It won't look perfect, but it'll work. Don't be afraid to angle them differently either, if that's what you need to do to get them to rank up. 3) Regarding having extra ranks of knights behind the first... forget it! You can probably do it, but you'll either need to position the knights in the first rank too far forward for them to have proper base to base contact when they get into combat or the knights in the second rank will have to be too far back for the unit to look nice. It's also not even worth it from a gameplay perspective, use those models for a second unit instead.On a semi-related note, it's nice seeing more chaos players in the thread. I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys do with the rest of your armies. I'll be painting some old-school knights in the near future myself and I hope they aren't as much of a pain to rank up on 25s as these were.
>>94845955Yea the 7e knights dont rank up great. The good news is that you dont and never will need a 2nd rank of CHAOS KNIGHTS
>>94845744The halberdiers are quite fun, the beastmen I can get new in box for £12 the only issue is its 8 models so not a full unit even.
>>94845955>it's nice seeing more chaos players in the threadWoC have always been one of the most represented armies.
>>94845012How many people are supposed to live inside that castle?
>>94845955Do I see some 5th edition plastic chaos warriors in the upper right corner?
>>94845238Yes, but also he would be vehemently jealous and took it as an insult to his pride and honor
>>94844367>>94844425>Sun King>degenerateJellied eel-soaked Engl*sh hands typed these posts
>>94845529>no models, no loreI guess nobody cannonically shits in the warhammer universe since there's no model depictions of it.
>>94845955So here's a picture of my chaos horde. I've 2 chimeras which I haven't yet rebased and I need to get some leaders on square bases as well. Maybe some marauder horsemen kitbashed from fireforge and gripping beast plastics like the ones on the lower right corner.
>>94845824yeah this totally proves that high elves routinely employ women in their ranks...even in the fiction books the girls are treated as exceptional instances. Liandra disguised herself as a male dragon prince. why would that be? hmmmmm i wonder.from a setting perspective, 8th edition was a mistake.
>>94846076> from a setting perspective, 8th edition was a mistakeYou mean 6th edition
>>94846036>no shityou are forgetting about Rogue Idols, anon. only greenskins shit in warhammer fantasy.
>>94846076>I'm making an exception for this special unit of warrior women with their own peculiar gender culture>I refuse to consider that this other special unit of warriors might have their own exceptional gender culture any example of women having to disguise themselves in the normal citizen levy?
>>94844973>30mm bases
>>94846098They were what was provided in the box, didn't have any spare 25s lying around.
>>9484609830s look better
>>94844186>TQWe have a pseudo campaign going with my 3 other friends and it's pretty fun. We just make matches thematic and do progression through different regions (game mats / terrain we own). It's fun because it's half min max brainrot combined with "well that's all the things I own so I gotta make it work". Really hope more people post games here otherwise it's gonna be another nogames loretrannies arguing over nonsense. Chaosflagmaxxer anon is the only one I see posting minis recently, so props to you bud.
>>94844523Those are some absolute gahongas by welf standards
>>94846181I've always wondered why the winged lionsphinx wasn't a build option in place of a howdah
>>94844733>>94844756Stirland is so fucking based. Total river troll death
>>94846098How's your scene doing? Heard that 8th and 9th age are pretty much dead now thanks to TOW.
>>94844835>pits and feet in the same imageBased
>>94845522>human x elf fucking is canonYes, yes, but what about human x dwarf fucking?
>>94845971You certainly did. I would have liked for my entire army to be built using the 5th ed kits, but they're hard to find so I decided that I'd only use them as units of undivided chosen warriors or knights. Maybe someday I'll locate enough of them to have an era-appropriate 5th ed army.>>94846050That is an obscene amount of dragons ogres. I can respect that. Their shields are even flat enough that you could freehand something on them, if you wanted to. I'm not a huge fan of dogres myself, but they're definitely strong. Regarding characters, I think finding and painting the character models you like the most is the best part of collecting a chaos army. There's been dozens and dozens of chaos champions and sorcerers released over the years and a lot of them are fairly easy to find for a (relatively...) reasonable price if you know where to look. I'm looking forward to seeing which ones you decide to collect!
>>94846294Played in a 9th Age tournament in November, it just got a new edition.
>>94846327unconfirmed same as HalflingxHuman or HalflingxDwarf
>>94846349Yeah, ideally I'd have marauder horsemen instead, I've some conversion ideas, but currently I'm running pretty low on storage space for all of my miniatures.
>>94846381>HalflingxHumanGuaran-fucking-teed>HalflingxDwarfMuch rarer but probably happens in the Dwarf Quarter of some backwood
>>94845955Many thanks for the kind advice; I'm pretty far along with these guys so will probably hold off on the rebasing for now, not least because I absolutely intend to field 2 ranks of five.In 1000 points games I've noticed my small Knights unit being weakened by enemy fire; I will field an oversized unit, they will reach the enemy and I will collapse flanks with them.
>>94846327>>94845522>human x elf fucking is canonWhat kind of confirmation was needed when Dark Elves exist ? Or you mean consensual ?
>never played a 'good' i.e on side of order army in my life>decide since I'm enjoying tow to try an empire army>play first game few days back>suddenly stakes feel high, losing guys feels like a real loss and failure of strategy rather than a callous dispensing of fodder>outrider squad cut to pieces by an ambush>hordes closing in is cinematic and reminds me of glorious stands in movies and books>disciplined fire evens the odds and halberds fight off the worst monsters imaginable in heroic combatalways used to laugh at guardfags and noblebright larpers but damn it really is compelling in a way evil armies never are. Pic related is one such moment where the stank did two vital wounds on charging drogres with the steam gun.
So for a while GW has only been producing art and rules for units which have models, because there have been some legal issues with third party models of units which GW hasn't made models of not counting as copyright infringement. That said, is this little blurb enough for GW to protect their copyright?
>GW hints at another Core Faction.>Kislev was the first faction that got a spotlight back in 2020.>Kislev has a huge role to play in the War Against Chaos.>Kislev is on the map.>Kislev had models and rules in 4th-6th.>Kislev has been a well known faction for well over 20 years now.>The hint suggests Cathay.>The current releases suggest Vampire CountsPlease, I just want Kislev.
>>94846546nuKislev sucks ass
>>94846546What role did the Vampire Counts play in the war against chaos? Did the Sylvanian vampires fight to protect the Empire so they could conquer it later?
>>94846566you could ask the same of Cathay
love me elf womensimple as
>>94846550I don't mind it.If Kislev had actually been an army in 7th and 8th, it would have gotten most of the units it was given in TWW.>>94846566What did the Tomb Kings or Bretonnia do during the Great War?
>>94844835I'm gonna be the contrarian here but the pic is shitelves are supposed to be thin/lithe/elegant
>>94846546Kislev is probably *the* easiest army to proxy, there are so fucking many Rus/Mongol/Polish historical ranges. Literally all you need is that and a "female ice wizard" with some basic green stuff sculpting and converting. Count them as Bretonnians.
>>94846496>cinematic nigga none of your shit is painted good for you for playing but bruhhhh
>>94846550If by saying "nukislev" you mean Kislev from Total War - from my slavic perspective it's much better aescethically and more consistent than old one.
>>94846546I don’t get how any of this reads as vampire counts for tow. If they wanted a legacy faction it would be demons, or hell ogres. Besides you don’t want the PLASTIC vampire counts kits, after having been assembling them and putting them on circles it’s been more of a fucking pain than it has with other factions. Just buy a pack of gw skulls and convert something else because I assure you, the black knights, grave guard, and any finecast shit is not with it.
>>94846546I want it too, man. No idea why they'd choose Cathay first>>94846566Vampires could come back as Vampire Coast or even as Bretonnian vampires. There are options besides Sylvania
>>94846627>No idea why they'd choose Cathay firstto appeal to foreign Asian markets
>>94846644Pretty sure asians would take one look at GW prices compared to their cheaper and established plastic hobbies and dip
>>94846644I doubt it. Chinks don't give a fuck about intelectual property so they'd just pirate everything. We all know that Kislev was on the table but was postponed due to the ukrainian anti-terroristic operation in Donbass.
>>94846644I like Cathay, the problem is that the main fantasy of Cathay is being like China endless waves of canon fodderbut in WFB you can't field endless ranks of Jade Warriors, so in the end it will relly a lot in the special units I don't care aboutabout the dragons I'm 50/50, they are cool but everything being dragons is kinda lame and it means we'll never have Fantasy Cao Cao
>>94846620Since GW has now created an almost complete separate line of models between Vampire Counts and AoS undead (like the WoC), they can relaunch the old VC line with no cross over between TOW and AoS, since that seems to be a hang up they have now.I don't know why they don't have Daemons come back because they are supposed to be the army in every game, but I would assume it's to do with the above stated reason.
>>94845093>the grotesque prolapsed chimp assHe just couldn't help himself could he
>>94846603it released a week ago calm down son
>>94846676Daemons are squatted through every GW system. In AoS and 40k they are rolled into mortal followers of certain gods. So either WoC gets god-specific lists or daemons will stay in legacy indefinietly.
Has anyone here played wolves of the sea list yet, it looks like it could be pretty fun.
>>94846627>There are options besides Sylvanianot with the old model range they would bring them back with, noat best mousillon would be an army of infamy
>>94845169>very mean and rude and gross and counterproductiveyes-yes
>>94846676You’re forgetting about the other scattered warscrolls like ghouls and wraiths that are in both nighthaunt and flesh eater courts. Flesh eater courts also won’t be getting a new update until what looks like the start of 2026 since they are at the end of the roadmap.
>>94846697Its a ballsack
>>94846720Some things do overlap between AoS and TOW tho'. For example - squig herds or mangler squigs.
>>94846728Oh okay. I was never clear on where the "musk of fear" was being squirted from
>>94846546I guess they keep Kislev for when they start introducing the chaos invasion.
>>94846720>ghouls and wraithsvampire counts can make do by using the previous metal ghouls, and by not using the 8th ed shitbesides hexwraiths are getting removed or updated soon and even the ghouls are way sooner than you think
>>94846591They are whatever his coombrained mind demands.
>>94846591iirc one of Malus sisters is chubby and one of his brother is almost obese (for elves standards).
Are there any cavalry units in TOW that are better wielded in multiple ranks?
>>94846730Yeah Age of Sigmar has this unofficial divide between factions that get updated old models versus factions that were completely transformed to fit the new lore.The new gobbos, vampires, and skaven are basically unchanged from WFB, but shit like picrel can only exist in AoS's weird half-baked setting.
>>94846442Yes
>>94846733they have glands for thatand rodents have large testicles
>>94846758Aside from Bretonnians in lance formation?
>>94846780>but shit like picrel can only exist in AoS's weird half-baked setting.I will argue otherwise, the only concept that can exist exclusively in aos is stormcastseven idoneth, kharadrons, fyreslayers, lumineth and ossiarchs could be given a corner of the old world and a minimal amount of fluff that connects them to the canon history and explains their differences
>>94846747>coombrain and its just normal human proportions
>>94846591>I'm gonna be the contrarianno arguing with that.
>>94846780What I meant is not all models need to be available right away for TOW like ghouls for example. GW technically could re-release finecast mangler squigs but they didn't and anyone who wants one just goes to AoS section and buys plastic one.
>>94844523>>94846747as if this was not a coombrain depiction just for pedophiles I guess.
>>94846808Setting coherence already took a severe beating in late 8e where they were clearly already setting up AoS aesthetics via shit like the Soulgrinders, flying elf ships, and half the new Tomb King units. Saying "oh yeah, another faction of Dwarf exists with literally early 20th century common aircraft and guns and also robots" would just be pissing on the corpse.
>>94846787Well i guess when you have a naked Morathi in front of you it's 100% consensual (not matter how low she is thinking of you as a specie).
>>94846808Please never mention stormcast eternals in context of TOW ever again, thank you in advance.
>>94846874soulgrinders were a 40k thing
>>94846808They should not be given a corner of the World though, they got Warcraft Aesthetics and skub shit lore.
>>94846924but enough about the empire
>>94846874>it's pissing on the corpseNo argument against that, or against the fact that aos ranges have a very different design philosophy for their sculpts, what I'm saying is that at a conceptual level, given the extremes some factions can get to, I hardly find asian elves with landmarks spirits any weirder than wood elves with forest spirits, or bone golems of nagash any weirder than egyptian undead with animated statues, or deep sea elves when we have lizardmen with dinosaurs, or again steampunk dwarfs when we already have industrial hell dwarfs.
>>94845969at least 3
8th Ed flanderization of Chrace has to be undone.White Lion Chariots go to far.
>>94846936> steampunk dwarfs when we already have industrial hell dwarfs.that reminds me, we're never going to get norse inspired dwarves, are we.
>>94846780>vampires>unchangedi feel attacked
>>94846941>8th Ed flanderization of Chrace has to be undone.did Chrace have any characterization beyond Axes and hunting lions?
>>94846945you can kitbash your own
>>94846941>8th Ed flanderization of Chracethe chariot is from 7th ed
>>94846949No and that was enough.
>>94846953I dont have the power of imagination when it comes with dwarves. Also I dont really have any visual references to draw from.
>>94846963so what was there to Flanderise?
>>948469567th was just 8th-Lite that started the entire CENTERPIECE meme.
>>94846971didnt 6th have the dragon issue?
>>94846969Making Chrace the LIONKINGdom. Everything is Lions in Chrace, the pets are Lions, the mounts are Lions the clothing is Lions.White Lions were a special cadre of Warriors who had killed a native beast and wore its pelt as a trophy, that was the extent of their involvement with Lions. The more domesticated you imply White Lions as a species to be, the less impressive it becomes when someone wears their skin.
>>94846945Doesn't sound like there's a real demand frankly, every time I heard a dwarffag mention something they like about their faction it's some kind of gun or cannon.Should TOW reach the point where it can put out serious amounts of new plastic ranges, then a sub range of norse dwarf that aims to update warriors, quarrelers, slayers, trve longbeards and anvil would be an absolute must.
>>94846814>its just normal human proportionsThat's the problem, though.
>>94847006You sound upset about strawmen more than anything.
>>94847021thats supposes to be Orion, renown Mel Gibson reenactor and mutant freak.
>>94846941White Lions are a male-only unit.Please stop flanderizing them.
>>94847026>strawmen
>>94847032kerillian just larps
>>94847044where's the problem
>>94847021Thats just what elves look like anon. Theyre just humans but a bit taller and with pointy ears.
>>94847044those are neither pets or mounts, nor anywhere close to the norm in chracewhite Lions are still a special cadre of Warriors who have killed a native beast and are wearing its pelt as a trophythey don't call random wild lions to pull their chariot because they're now friends with them or anything like that
>>94846572>>94846585>>94846627I wasn't asking because I don't believe vampire counts should be in the game. I was asking because I'm curious what the faction was up to around this time.
>>948469796th did not have a dragon issue, it had a very specific issue with chaos lords bearing the mark of tzeentch riding a chaos dragon and wearing the golden eye of tzeentch.
>>94846946Blood Knights, Wight Kings and Zombie Dragons with shiny new models are still the same old characters anon.
>>94847100I think they were dead.
>>94847078This conversation flares up in some way or another every now and then,, so once again: elves are not some weird alien looking race.They have features they tend towards, theyre lithe, slender and whatever else have you, but they are those things within human bounds, theyre not dunmer or eldar. Elves are just good looking humans with pointy ears and a lowish BMI
>>94847105Im pretty sure the new zombie dragon is an actual dragon instead of the 8th ed model.
>>94846699How is my shit painted then? don't cope bout work cause I do shift fieldwork n still banged out a tank, 20 missile troops, 2 wizards and an engineer with two converted cannons and played two games. You're just a fag who bought minis to le hecking game NOW, will get overwhelmed by the amount of plastic you accrued and will sell that shit on eBay or put it in a box. Hit the brush loser or wallow in mediocrity with other mental gymnasts here. The tank fighting the sphinx is mine incase your boney fingers type for me to post models.
>>94846971>7th was just 8th-Lite that started the entire CENTERPIECE meme.The edition violently hostile to centerpieces? That edition?I think youre getting your chronology mixed up. Centerpieces WERE a part of the game, back in your 6th and 5th editions, and then were no longer viable in any way in 8th. Between powerful kill spells, steadfast and whatever else have you.
>>94847110that saddle seems more trouble than its worth
>>94847122postem
>>94847133kek
>>94847110their hair, in art at least, improved massively, but everything else from 6th was a downgrade
>>94846941>8th Ed flanderization of Chrace 2008
>>94847147yeah, fuck that
>>94847133As opposed to the rest of her getup, which is very practical. Shes like 7000 years old, let her have her fun. >>94847142Had a massive crush on her 7e art back in the day.
>>94847103by that metric TOW doesn't have a dragon issue either, it has an issue with similar lord choices that can stack protective magical items and upgrades on the dragonif all the involved protective items got restricted to non-monsters only then tow wouldn't have a problem with dragons anymore since they could be managed with massed fire, artillery or great weapons at that point
>>94846707>Mousillon would be an army of infamyActually quite likely. It fits the time period, and gives a cavalry army which GW love. They could give black knights the lance formation for fun. Actually less likely is Sylvania with allied state troops. It looks like they don't want any crossover between the good and evil books (hence the lack of dwarfs with the Norse, and the two types of mercenary ogres).
>>94846780The vampires in AoS all look several orders of magnitude worse than classic whfb vampires, with the exception of maybe two of them. And we don't even have to mention their weird eel hair to come to that conclusion
Stop eating garlic.
>>94847168Stop sucking Blood.
>>94847110>Elves are just good looking humans with pointy earsLots of art depicted them having these typical elfen features, including yours. Fanart fap-pics tends to miss that completely.>and a lowish BMIThat's pretty much what started all this.
Stop boiling beer
>>94847157>restricted to non-monstersor if cost scaled with the additional wounds. imo more restrictive list building isn't a good direction and it's no more complicated than adding shields to a unit
>>94847166if we're talking strictly vampires (as in not the skeletons and what not) then its a tie because both are awful aside from the strigoi line.
>>94846707>mousillon army of infamyPlease God, yes. Normal VC are so fucking gay.
>>94847110>so once again: elves are not some weird alien looking race.personally I like the ayy elves far better, but I'm not going to pretend it's the only "correct" depiction
>>94847179>That's pretty much what started all this.That art (now deleted, not sure why) is not fat or overly voluptuous or whatever else, its literally just an attractive woman with an entirely normal build with elf ears. Although I would bet that there is probably a fat elf out there in the lore, probably mentioned in some book or anotherIts not "within the style of warhammer art", but thats mainly because the features are soft and because the ears are the wrong shape. Eastern elves have the ears go horizontal, while on western elves the ears go vertical. Warhammer art tends towards hard lines and sharp edges, while that particular piece was generally very rounded and soft looking.
>>94847230
>>94847230That's kinda nightmarish.
>>94846941that is a very small lion head
>>94847241
>>94847100Oh sorry anon.What we've been told from TOW so far is that they are mostly staying under the radar, and the Von Carstein are well and truly out of the picture at the moment.From the 8th ed army book they would take root in Mousillon after Duke Maldred around 2300 IC, and just after the Great War Ostermark would fight multiple battles against the Vampire Waldakir Rahtep and his undead army.The Tzarina that succeeded Alexis 2 years after the Great War was a Lahmian Vampire and she reigned for about a century and a bit before some Empire Witch hunters pointed out that she was a Vampire to the Kislevites, who were pretty unperturbed by it until they were informed that she wouldn't die of age and that there would be no climbing up the ranks for them, so they then killed her and stuck her (somehow) human son on the throne.So while they are currently underground, there is room to have them start rebuilding their strength parts of the world other than Sylvania, and the current Von Carstein power vacuum means that they could focus on other Vampire bloodlines like the Lahmian's.
>>94846757>chubby/almost obese (for elves standards)So the 1950s idea of fat
>>94847267Which is basically where this conversation started.
>>94847110Elven aesthetics are on a sizeable spectrum from regular ass looking to ayy lmao mystery niggas.
>>94847257
>>94847230>>94847257Were the elves really supposed to look like aliens?
>>94847237It's not about style, what caused this was an anon pointing out that warhammer elves would have less bodyfat.Yes, that means less than normal on human average. They aren't humans.And of course fanart fap-pics always depict their facial features as just rudimentary attractive human female with pointy ears.And no, pointing that out doesn't mean one wants them to look like weird aliens or that one says they are hard-canon depicted that way.But they have been drawn with non-human, classic fantasy elfen facial features since forever (elongated faces, hawkish features, almond-shaped eyes), even when different artists had their own take on that, portraying this through their own style.
>>94847304>as just rudimentary attractive human female with pointy ears.Because thats what they are. Elves are conventionally attractive.
So you're telling me a disgusting fat bastard elf woman not even Teclis would fuck is a 10/10 pornstar by human standards? Where do I find one of these fat pig elf femcels
>>94847324Teclis doesent get the option of elf women, its why he settles for humans, because humans dont know any better and find elves 10/10 in general.
>>94847316That's such a retarded argument. No, that's not what they are.Are you saying all this official art is wrong?Fuck off or deliver me one piece of official lore that directly states "they are just attractive humans". They are elves, they are depicted as elves, they have elfen features, and these may happen to be attractive to human eyes. But they first and foremost look like elves.
>>94847282I've always thought of Elves/HElves/Eldar as being angelic/nephilim-looking. They're humanoid but superhumanly beautiful such that they don't even seem real, like a classical statue of ideal beauty come to life.
>>94847324>Imagine being the slave to an overweight (by elf standards) dark elf recluse lady, who spends all her days in her tower because she gets bullied for her 23BMI by the other dark elf stacies
>>94847302nah, it's a choice that's very restricted to only some of the artworks from 6th ed onwards before that they had long faces but not really that alien
>>94847361slightly pudgy dark elves owe me sex
>>94847353Ah yes>pictured: your alien non-conventionally attractive elvesAnon these are literally just pretty humans with pointy ears.
>>94847258I think Lahmians would actually make a good AoI for Tomb Kings. Basically just add a vampire character which can replace your priest (plus whatever mortal units you like)
>>94847324yes, I'm going to bet ugly girlfailure femcel elves are those elves that are mentioned as dying by simply falling into an eternal sleep>Yet such is the extreme lifespan of Elves that is it not always easy to determine when death has occurred. Some nobles lie in state for hundreds of years, their families convinced they have merely slipped into a long sleep, and will awaken in their own good time. Some High Elven princesses have "slept" for centuries, with fresh flowers -- and sometimes even suitors -- brought to their bedside each day by servants or relatives
>>94847078anons itt would have you believe these are high elves
>>94847400The chances of them being high are actually pretty good.
>pelt should be lions (male)>pets / mounts should be lionesses (female)Simple as.Lionesses live in packs with their cubs in the hills, lions live alone high in the Annulii Mountains.Because of the magic/chaos in the mountains peaks the older a male is the are the bigger and stronger he is, infused with magic.Lionesses are fierce in protecting their cubs but also more social which means they can be domesticated if captured young enough.
>>94847157You are correct! But also, you are wrong! The golden eye of tzeentch specifically gave a 3+ ward save against all missile attacks to both the rider wearing it and his mount. As you can probably guess, whoever came up with that item was smoking crack. Normally, in 6th, the rider's items and armour only protected the rider, not his mount. This is not the case in TOW, because the rider's and his mount's profiles are combined. However, you are correct, the easy access to ward and regen saves is what makes dragons so annoying (not that I would know, I still haven't played against someone with a dragon lord) in TOW. But it's not that simple either. Setting aside the fact that, generally speaking, dragons were not good in 6th, as they got evaporated by cannons immediately, TOW's dragon problem stems from the fact that almost every army can make a giga-satan dragon lord. In 6th, it was really only tzeentch armies that got to bring their retarded strong chaos lord on a dragon. Therefore, 6th did not have a dragon problem. It had a tzeentch chaos lord (who, by the way, is also a level 4 wizard) on a dragon with the golden eye of tzeentch problem.
>>94847376No, slightly pudgy dark elves will use you as a means of excising their frustrations over their mistreatment by society.
>>94847424I will fatshame them into submission. One grab to the belly pouch and a woman's ego is completely destroyed.
>>94847156How does she finger herself ?
>>94847422You forgot to mention that the chaos lord is also immune to magic weapons by virtue of the chaos runeshield.
>>94847413You’re weird
>>94847413And both genders grow a mane. There, now you don't even have to change the models.
>>94847128nta, but that was the time when things like the arachnorok spider and the like were being introduced in every army. im not going to fight the monster lovers, those models were very cool. but 6th barely had anything that took up more than a square 50mm base (not counting chariots ofc)so you're right from a gameplay perspective, but the model ranges were definitely tending towards bigger showcase models. actually, do any anons remember when the plastic giant kit came out? 6th or 7th?
>>94847393>>pictured: your alien non-conventionally attractive elvesYou dishonest swine, retarded coombrain>And no, pointing that out doesn't mean one wants them to look like weird aliens or that one says they are hard-canon depicted that wayMy previous statement. It's just a collection of images that I found humorous because of the attached text.Also, what you are posting is fantasy flight games art. Might as well post TW:W screenshots as evidence.Fact is: Official art tends to depict elves not as regular attractive humans. It depicts them as elves with classic fantasy elf features.
>>94847431Anon I dont think you understand how "not actually fat" we are talking. The picture of the elf who started this is still like, entirely thin
>>94844529You forfeit
>>94847361>she's so low status and such a loser in delf society that you're the only slave she could get>half your day is spent just cheering her up and basically playing boyfriend out of pity (but she would kill you if you didn't)>the other half is spent getting absolutely sexually obliterated while she works out her sexual frustrationSigmar, I see what you've done for other people, and I want that for me
>>94847458I don't think YOU understand the amount of shame a woman feels over the belly pouch. It's mere existence, no matter how big it is, is enough. Sometimes it's not even there except for certain postures and still it's a one hit KO. And it's the thin ones that are most weak to it. 23 BMI is the optimal strike zone for this maneuver, I assure you.
>>94847353The middle picture (the one with the bird) is doubtful
>something elf-related releases>more /vg/ posts with inane lewd-shitIt has always been like that
>>94847452Oh sure, 8th (and 7th before it) added a lot of monster models. The hydra got a model in 7th and then a new model in 8th to duo-kit with another big monster. Bunch of new plastic dragons. Chaos got a bunch of big monsters. Greenskins got the spider. TK got some big shit. And all of those monsters fucking sucked. Out of every new thing they added in 8th that fit on a 50x100 or bigger, basically only the chimera was good, and only the chimera, war-hydra and war-sphinx saw any play. So I really wouldnt say theyre "centerpieces", at least in game terms. It might have been that big cool model your collection revolved around, but realistically it was something that collected dust on your shelf while you fielded 20 more spearmen. But its also worth mentioning that models in general were getting bigger by then too (from 6th onwards). Monstrous units/cavalry became a thing, cavalry in general became taller, chariots got beefier. 7e cold one knights were a lot bigger than 6e cold one knights. 7e chaos knights are a lot bigger than the 6e chaos knights. >do any anons remember when the plastic giant kit came out? 6th or 7th?Tail end of 6th I believe.
>>94847413it's a fantasy creature, as far as we know both genders have manes and/or they live more like solitary tigers than social lions
>>94847361They are the one joining Cult of Slaanesh.
>>94847437Also yes, that was a magic item that he could use. I also didn't mention that mono-tzeentch armies were pretty OP back then too, even without the dragon lord. Not only were screamers really good, but having extra power dice (aka enough power dice to actually cast all the spells you want to cast) was real nice. There were some degenerate army lists that could get something stupid like 20 power dice by spamming chariots. Disgusting! But, when I look at the absolute state of the mark of tzeentch right now, I yearn for those days, even if my army only has one unit of tzeentch warriors.
well this thread went fast im not even sure why it did but the general has seen a general uptick since the New Year for whatever reason.
>>94847520We're all excited for the high elves.
>>94847492they should just go to the Warhammer /aco/ general
>>94847511Lol no, Cult of Slaanesh is Chad/Stacy only.
>>94847520>For whatever reason It's people interested in Empire that are increasing the interactions in this general.
>>94847520We're gooning to "fat" elves
>>94847523but in general all the /wfg/ threads are pretty fast these days this one was just even faster than usual
>>94847528Morathi does not allow pretty women around here.(Also Malus' fat sister is the Slaaneshi one, the pretty one turn to be turbo-Khainite)
>>94847533I’ve seen only 2 (could just be the one) army here for empire. It’s a wip too
>>94847353Something some sperg writes in a RP Sourcebook should be taken with a grain of salt.
>>94847533I doubt it
>>94847455>what you are posting is fantasy flight games artIts officially licensed GW product that you included in your gay little collage. >Fact is: Official art tends to depict elves not as regular attractive humans. It depicts them as elves with classic fantasy elf features.Official art depics them as conventionally attractive insofar as the regular GW artists know how to depict conventionally attractive people.
>>94847548Morathi doesn't allow pretty women who mog her (which are extremely, extremely rare). They're still unimaginably hot, just not as hot as her
>>94847525last time I looked at that thread it was all rule 63 (gay) and ork/monster rape (jewish)
>>94847548>the pretty one turn to be turbo-KhainiteAnd then malus leaves her in a closet because he learned to not stick his dick in crazy after like, 3 attempts.
>>94847157Oh yeah, the tzeentch chaos lord in question also has access to a spell that makes him reroll all failed hit, wound and save rolls. On a 6+. He even has enough points left over after buying the golden eye of tzeentch and the chaos runeshield for a spell familiar. He'll have that spell in 5 out of 6 games. So, yeah. 6th did not have a dragon problem.
>>94847564>porn threads are gay and/or semiticwhat were you expecting?
>>94847564they split the rule 63 stuff into it's own thread so i think the Aco warhammer thread is mostly Eldar and SoB gooning
>>94847576Expecting? That. Hoping for? Vanilla, loving, romantic sex between members of the same species who are in committed relationships.
>>94847555>Official art depics them as conventionally attractiveOkay, so pic related is just wrong.
>>94847593does anyone but Adrian Smith present High Elves like this?seemed to be a style choice almost exclusive to him
>>94847605karl kopinski and paul dainton too try to make them similarly elongated, but smith brings it to the extreme in these vignettes
>>94847593Going by adrian smith valten has black hair and is chinese. So yes, maybe take his attempts at drawing people as opposed to armor with a grain of salt. This is exactly what I mean, you take the very stylized work of artists that dont do good looking people of any sort (certainly not back in the day, adrian smith has some good looking ones for some card game though, Cult?) and then go "wow, this is how things must look"
>>94847605Example one >>94847021Example two >>94847304Example three >>94847455Different styles, different artists (I think), different editions, classic elfen features. Not regular humans with pointy ears.
>>94847625how can anyone look at this and not think chaos is the coolest thing everarchaon has a necklace made of skulls, a sword that's screaming and a helmet with two huge horns, man. That's bad ass. Yeah, archaon is a huge faggot once you dig a little deeper, but he knows how to present himself at least.
>>94847241I FUCKING LOVE KARL KOPINSKI SO MUCH BROS
>>94847629>example one>not even an elf, literally just a logo
>>94847625Bringing up Adrian Smith is a strawman, I posted all manners of pics that share these classic elfen features.Give me one source stating that elves are "just attractive humans".>>94847646How the fuck is that a counter-argument of any kind?It depicts an elfen face.
>>94847629Oh are we using black library cover art now? Cool. Heres this. Also I hope this means you accept naggarothi hive cities as canon.
>>94847637that's a smith piece, bro.this is a kopinski piece.
>>94847658>Bringing up Adrian Smith is a strawmanNo you retard, you literally posted his art and asked "so I guess this is wrong then huh?">>94847658>It depicts an elfen face.It depicts stylized art of an elven face. It is a logo.
>>94847362remember when wardancers were all male?
>>94847706it was a diffrent time that GW does not want to revisit
>>94847409nice
>>94847702>It depicts stylized art of an elven faceis this artwork a stylization too?
>>94847663Nah, that cover is just shit.>BL writers making up dumb loreA tiresome discussion.>>94847702>you literally posted his artAmong other artists.>It depicts stylized art of an elven faceCool, so it shows an elfen face with classic elfen features found also in other official warhammer art showing elves.What the fuck anon, how can you argue against this idea that elves have typical elfen features. That's standard fantasy since D&D.
>>94847734>writerstry artists
>off-model depiction of an elf according to /wfg/
>>94845110Older single pose plastic models have a lot of soul. They do tend to lack detail compared to newer models but a lot of that can be countered with competent painting. The main issue with them these days tends to be the scale looks wrong when used alongside newer models for the faction.
>>94846511They can't do anything to stop 3rd party models. The only thing they protect is their trademarks which they know they can enforce. Everything else replies upon people caving to C&Ds and threats of legal action, but in general they only go after those using the trademarked names, or where people are charging for direct copies of their stuff. They are living on borrowed time in regards to being able to bully 3D printing stuff into some amount of compliance though.
>>94847518what if MoT also gave the opposing army more power dice too. seems thematically fitting. imagine the big fat grins on the faces of Tzeentch's ass watching a fucking artillery duel of spells happening below. who cares if a few of his own get zapped along the way?
>>94847821Yes.
>>94847879those helmets would be apalling to try and shoot in
>>94847867Yeah practically they can't actually go after all the 3D sculptors and the remasters, but if they provide a model for something, then they retain the legal right to sue someone who copies it. If they don't make a model of something in their art, then someone else can come along and make it. So where does "providing instructions to build the model yourself" fall on that scale?
This is how an Elf should look like according to Andy Law.
>>94847911Pig disgusting
>>94847679shit, i got mixed up. sorry anon
>>94847911pretty close to altmer in TES
>>94847911Looks like an ugly asian
Thank god I have advanced autism and can rationalise all the depictions of elves in one coherent theory.
>>94847970Is the coherent theory "yeah Warhammer is weird sometimes"?
meanwhile GW approved TWWH concept art.
>>94847986fucking barf dude
>>94847986Looking pretty good desu
>>94847970is that how autism works? really?
Thats why I love Kerillian.She's the missing link between just a human babe and the Ayy Lmao Elf we know and love.
>>94847990cope/seethe/mald
>>94847983No>>94848001Mine is
elf qts are just cute
>>94847911I like my High Elves to have bright iris colours like light grey, blue and green.I like my Dark Elves to have dark and unnatural iris colours, like purple and dark grey.I like my Wood Elves to have midnight black eyes, with no distinguishable iris or pupil.
Working on marauder horsemen, theyre surprisingly finnicky models but I should get them done by thursday for the game.
>>94848052Based and tasteful
>>94848052There should be variety in all things.
>>94847910>then they retain the legal right to sue someone who copies itUp to a certain point. If it is a carbon copy then yes they can legally pursue it, at least for sure when it comes to physical models. The debate is still on about STLs made in the image of existing models simply because the product itself is a digital file with isn't something GW actually sells so it therefore cannot be mistaken as legit which is what the actual laws around brand dilution/counterfeiting/whatever are. It just hasn't gone to court yet since no one has pushed back on it legally yet. Cults3D took a pretty reasonable stance on the issue and said they will not knowingly host STLs that are carbon copies of existing models, but anything else is basically fair game so long as trademarks are not used. They didn't even take down the guy doing the rips from TWW, those were taken down by the creator under legal threat via the US court system because GW basically bankrupted the guy with legal proceedings before any ruling could be made. 3D printing really isn't the threat to GW that people make it out to be. At least not yet, but if volumetric printing pans out like we hope it does then it will be a real threat to them.
Bretonnia's mounted knights look really cool. The foot knights look really gay. I don't know if it's been said yet, but now it has.
>>94847986
>>94848118I think it'll be a long time before it's cost effective for the casual wargamer to have their own printer, but it's definitely an option for independent mini creators or printing services where you send your files. Issue is, there already models made of cast resin or injection-moulded plastic which are cheaper than GW, but they haven't yet caused GW to lower their prices.
>>94848052>>94848213purple is Slaaneshi corruption
Ulric > sugmar
>>94848240No, its just what people from nagarythe look like.
>>94848245Myrmidia > Sigmar > Quetzl > Grimnir > Ulric > Khaine
>>94848288>GHR looking down on your petty gods comparison
>>94846327Back to your containment thread, slop faggot.
>>94848288Ulric is tyr in the Renaissance ageHammer Jesus and spear thot can't compete
>>94848288Khaine soloes the lot of them.
>>94848364whfb khaine is a god of murder, not a god of war, he's a pussy.
>>94848412"Khaela Mensha Khaine, usually simply called Khaine, also known as the "Bloody-Handed God" and the "Lord of Murder," is the Elven god of violence, war, cruelty, blood, destruction, and murder. "Khaine is the god of plenty of shit. Hes also the most significant deity after the chaos gods as a combined force.
>>94848427bullshit
>>94848214The price is already around the point where it isn't hard to get into it, but the learning curve and time involved is what largely deters the casual from adopting it. Along with the exaggerations of 'safety' concerns. That is why it wasn't a real threat to GW's business since they get plenty of casual walk-in business as it were. But if volumetric pans out and the learning curve and time involved drops to basically zero it will only be a matter of time before that tech comes down in price to make it consumer ready. And print on demand places will adopt it early and be able to pump out stuff significantly quicker than before with less hassle involved. All this being said I doubt GW would ever actually drop prices to try and compete. The result will just be a further disconnection of GW as a requirement for the hobby. Definitely won't kill them, but they might at least have to acknowledge it to some degree and maybe even adapt to support it down the road.
>>94847110They look creepy to me
Kinda surprising that none of the border princes on the map are from Cathay. Seems like an easy place for GW to put them to be relevant in the old world
>>94848557The other issue is that the casual player won't be printing multiple armies' worth of miniatures. They'll probably find a couple of designs they like online and then just buy the rest as plastic kits
>>94848647Yeah that is basically why GW's casual business isn't currently under threat. But if volumetric works then print on demand can be significantly cheaper and readily available with much better quality than we currently see from print on demand. At which point it will come down to STL availability and the smarter creators will be selling commercial licenses directly to printers effectively creating a proper market. Fuck knows how the Chinese recasters might adapt to this as well, but they could potentially even undercut the print on demand. It will be interesting times regardless.
Anyone know the model sizes (the actual height, not the base) for the bestigor or beastlord models?
>>94848647When i got a 3d printer I went a little overboard and printed 4 full armies, Tomb king, bretonnia, high elves and dwarfs
>>94848782https://minicompare.info/?bestigor-a=&beastlord=
>>94848839What a godsend, anon. Now I can figure this part sourcing shit out.
>>94847432Very carefully
One of the stories in the Ignorant Armies anthology refers to warpstone as red. Are there any other places it's been mentioned as red or even anything other than green?
>>94848622so the Border Princes is no longer the your guyz region?
>>94849294In the original skaven article (and I believe a few other places) it's described as black or a void.In fact, the first place it's shown as green might be in Mordheim. The skaven had green gas and green magic for a long time so it was a simple step to make it green. I've seen pics where it's black with a green light/edges, but in time it just became simpsons uranium.
>>94849381>The skaven had green gas
>>94849294Nagash's pyramid is implied to be made of black warpstone as well as some chaos dwarf artifacts.
How attacks will High Elf spearmen get in CC in 8th?By my math, with 10 frontage, the first two ranks fight, Spears allow a third, and Martial Prowess allows a 4th rank. Is that right? Am I off?
I don't know how thread relevant this is, but I'm trying to prove if I'm crazy or not... was there an article in White Dwarf specifically focused on the Empire's Steam Tank? Like, I know that in 6e's days there were three articles on Steam Tank lore, and a Warhammer Chronicles article giving rules for Steam Tanks in 6e, but was there specifically an article that gave option rules for upgrading your Steam Tank to resemble one of the named Steam Tanks from canon? The gun-less, ramming-focused Sigmar's Hammer, the mortar-toting Implacable, or Von Zeppel's design, which was basically a throwback to 4e's War Wagon and served as a platform for a bunch of engineers with experimental weapons?I'm thinking maybe it was a 7e expansion, since 7e gave the Steam Tank an entry in the Empire's new codex, but didn't give it any variants/upgrades...
>>94847258How many Von Carsteins were there? WHF seems to imply there's enough that you can make up your own, but it's hard to imagine more than the few named characters we have. I'm trying to write a vampire that got lost in the Von Carstein war, drifted into the moot, and was forcefully domesticated by a village of halflings that recognized the horror of an empty stomach was in their midst. It could be any house tbdesu, but I'm not sure how vamp clans work in WHF or if any others were involved in the war. I don't even have a name for my vampire, he's just the Shadow Elder after living there for a hundred years.
>>94849355It still is. They mention in the articles that the border princes shift to quickly for a cartographer to truly capture, and this map is more of a snapshot of the major powers at one specific point in time.
>>94849381That explains why Mordheim uses wyrdstone instead of warpstone. They wanted it to be green so they just made their own thing which was eventually folded back into warpstone.
Why do people call them beastmemes
>>94844983I emailed them like last week. They said it was coming. lol
>>94850019Vlad turned every noble who sided with him into a vampire. Not all of them will be powerful and influential like Konrad and Mannfred though. Some might raise armies of the undead and go to war (although not on the scale of the vampire wars), but some will just be pale and spend all their time indoors.
>>94850126sure but when on twitter they put out a statement saying the high elf player guide was soon but the release window for that turns out to be late march
>>94849938Okay, what might be throwing me off is that I was remembering that there's a White Dwarf featuring displays of steam tanks customized to resemble the canonical steam tanks - does anyone know what White Dwarf issue that was? The pictures are up on the Warhammer Fantasy wiki, but it doesn't source them.
>>94846008Knights of the Blazing Sun be like
Cathay when?I need to make grognards seethe asap.
>>94850900I remember when Cathay was said to be in Total War Warhammer 3, the seething was off the charts.
>>94850900later half of the year
>>94850900Hobbymog grogoids and their child-painted VC with an Ind/Araby/Nippon army in the meantime
>>94847105oh you don't mean the models, fair
>>94847105Does AoS even have normal undead? I thought all they had was Osteoid™ Osteomaurader™ Bönsoldyers™ and those gay plant zombies
>>94851057Disconnect from reality. If you can't tladd a sentence of flavour text to bring the rule to life, we might as well be playing chess.Top offender here is the AoS/40K Command Points nonsense. "Your Dire Avengers over here can't fire really fast this turn, because the Wave Serpent on the other side of the battlefield rerolled its save so you have no points left." It just saps the game of its wargames feeling.
>>94851057Do the exact opposite of what shrimplified 40k does unless you sell marinepig models to retards at the volume a company like GW does and actually need to dumb down your rulesDo the exact same as whatever the fuck Tuoooomas Penisman has done and go look at the Mordheim and old WFB rules, they're flavorful and designed to get you in the headspace of your warband/army instead of braindead WAACing like an AoSmonkey
>>94846610Don't you have a street corner to squat on while drinking bathtub vodka? Stop stinkin' up the threat with this shit.
>>94851121I'm Russian and I agree with him. What's wrong with TWW Kislev? Also gibs me land fo free
>>948509002026 at the very earliest
twwh cathay just looks like an elf faction. dont like em.
>>94850946Don't be silly anon, trollanon types don't have any talent or creative impulse or actual affection for the setting's less explored corners, they're just the kind of jaded, emotionally stunted sadsacks who imagine that when they show up to the store with Female Hello Kitty Marines or whatever they'll elicit outrage and seethe rather than pity and assumptions they're soft in the head.
>>94850909Yeah but a lot of that wasn't because Cathay was in, but because they were a base game faction when people wanted Ogres and Chorfs to be base game factions instead.
All this shit about Elves is getting daft, especially because both>Elves are just hot humans!and>Elves are horrifying Ayyys with chins you could open tins of beans with!sides are wrong. Actually, Elves are fashion models. Think about it. Thin, waifish, faintly androgynous(not to a fetish degree or anything, just the point where the women are more handsome than pretty and the men are more pretty than handsome, in relation to idealized humans), with features that *can* be beautiful but often in a slightly odd way - striking, pronounced, symmetrical.
>>94851223You just said what I said but markedly dumber and fatter.>>94847355
>>94851223Elves are unnecessarily tall and should be cut down to size with axes.
>>94851223>>Elves are horrifying Ayyys with chins you could open tins of beans with!And who said that?
>new grave guard will be a bitch to rank up >old grave guard are absolutely hideous and not fun at all to hobby withDont have a printer so I cant even do that. What are my other options?
>>94851401>>old grave guard are absolutely hideous and not fun at all to hobby withyou have absolutely shit taste anon, maybe you should play slopmar instead
>>94851401get the even older metal grave guard, it ranks perfectly and looks great, only downside is the lack of different poses
>>94851450The old grave guard are so exaggerated you would think they originated in sigmar.
>>94851502old grave guard arent the 2008 ones
First orc character for my black orcs army
>>94851162>slanty eyed people look like slanty eyed elveswho'd have thought?
World map has been updated.Cathayan ship sighted off Couronne, and Kislev have a city past the eastern bounds of the Mountains of Mourn.https://www.theoldworld.com/
>>94851648They should be gritty like the other humans.
>>94851681It's gonna suck.
>>94851681dont care, explore norsca more.
>>94851681>>94851700Ok, now I've got to eat my hathow did they get here? do the elves let them pass on their sea routes? do they genuinely follow the long road around lustria? do they use the undersea or do they have flying ships?
>>94851700>https://www.theoldworld.com/interesting that the Norse Dwarf hold are on the map but not interactable neither are most of the Empire provninces
>>94851732they do have a big canal that lets them go around Khuresh at least in TWW and enter the sea east of Ind so i would guess they go round the Southlands to the Old World after that
>>94851681That has to be the luckiest Cathayan ship imaginable
>>94851732>how did they get here? ancient chinese secret
baking a new thread
>>94851768>>94851774>>94851774>>94851774
>>94849355There are "people we know" in the border princes, there have always been "people we know" in the border princes.The border princes is a chaotic region populated by countless petty kingdoms, estates and fortresses and ruled by all sorts of minor nobles. Making it good for /yourguys/, this does not mean that its some unknown fucking void where records and established powers dont exist.Leotpold from tamurkhan, gnashrag the black prince from 7th ed/nights dark masters. Theres even various locations we know about previously.
