Previous: >>94855979>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://mtglands.com>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQ:What's your favorite deck or playstyle?
Gay Bolas
I switched my deck from liberty prime to captain american and he's so broken, like he can deal 12vin the air on turn five it's insane
>>94859559>What's your favorite deck or playstyle?Cards with "you may have any number of these in your deck". I have a deck with 35 of these bad boys and all the spells draw cards or untap all my creatures so I can spam them and tap them multiple times each turn. Does it win? Rarely! But I have fun with it every game
>>94859559>What's your favorite deck or playstyle?Aggro decks, i like styling on combo nerds
>>94859559>What's your favorite deck or playstyle?Izzet anythingThe main premise behind my fav deck is to play lots of small things then wheel
>>94859559>TQBeating face. Rakdos shenanigans to ensure everyone is slowly dying. Aggro, stompy, Heartless Hidetsugu tribal.
>>94859559>TQ:luv me discardluv me sacrificeluv mono blackluv me wife Braidssimple as
>>94859572Me and my friend recently got into a (friendly) fight because he made fun of my Bruvacs/Petitioners Lord Skitter/Rat Colony and Baylen/Hare Apparent decks. He said I was a brainless deck builder because all I do is put out creatures that multiply and turn them sideways. Meanwhile he's a combosweeb who thinks tutoring for card A&B is the height of big brain decks.
>>94859698I instantly lose all respect for people that run tutors to get combos off. What's the point in playing a singleton format if you're just gonna tutor for the same fuckin combo every single game? The worst offender of "brainless bullshit" imo
>>94859716Simple option select: I Demonic Tutor and then fire off my combo and protect it with interaction, and then say I tutored for the interaction.
>>94859796Most unrealistic part of this post is combofags running interaction
Is there a like.. fuckin 10+ CMC commander that when it comes in, the game pretty much ends? Kinda in the mood to make some sorta stall deck where I try to last as long as possible to be able to summon the commander, and when it comes in it just fucks everyone and everything up
>>94859819Eldrazi
>>94859826Man it's the one type of card I just don't care for. Like, I realize it fits my description precisely but I cannot stand Annihilator
>>94859523A red faerie?IM GOING INSAAAAANE
>>94859636imma shoot that bitch, draw cards some other way
>>94859819im building Valgavoth right now, i will supplement the time until i cast them with reanimation and general Mono Black Goodstuff
>>94859559>What's your favorite deck or playstyle?I like putting big creatures down and turning them sideways to attack.Also sometimes it's fun to play a lot of small creatures instead. Depends on the mood.
>>94859572Is there any way to play mill without being hated off by most people?I had a friend play Gyruda and he got HATED off very rapidly cause he kept making copies of Gyruda and milling and stealing.
>>94859887He will just be insta killed by removal since you can't protect him with counter magic, you also need to rely on your opponents having actual good stuff to steal
>>94859559>What's your favorite deck or playstyle?It's probably not viable in commander but i like ceatures that blow up when they die
>>94859909Play against people who understand that mill is actually pretty underpowered and not a threat at all.
>>94859911who cares if he is instakill? certainly not me.and even if he gets counterspelled, so be it.he will impact the board either way, and i run a reanimator shell, he will come back one way or another. Im building this list with inevitability in mind, and im embracing the throne of the archenemy
I have a serious hatred of thief decks because those are my cards and only i should be able to use them, it's a humilation ritual.
>>94859887>9 CMC in mono blackanon you better run Crypt Ghast Also word of advice, theft is hated a lot more than other playstyles. There's a psychological phenomenon where people give a huge amount of fucks about losing something that's theirs, much more than their opponent getting something. Really playing Magic is a really good exercise in how brains work.
>>94859933My issue with theft decks is that they suck to play against, they don't do anything then just take a few cards that are normally useless to them and then they just die, the only things they seem to get value out of is rocks and lands, the only time i've seen a theft deck actually do anything was when he played a bunch of midrange creatures then stole a bushwacker to swing for lethal, they just make everyone else worse while only gaining minor benefits, it's bad from both a fun and copetative angle
>>94859927That's nice. You can have "your" cards back once I'm done with them.
>>94859933Mono B is ramp, i dont know where the sentiment comes from that it is anything but.and i know exactly what im getting myself into>>94859927>>94859951the saltier your tears, the sweeter the juice
>>94859915anon most decisions people make are emotion driven Mill unfortunately has the issue of negativity bias, since humans remember negative events a lot more strongly than positive ones >People will remember all the damn times mill screwed them out of lands or a wincon >They will rarely remember the times mill got them the card they needed Unfortunately this means most people will always have at least a strong distaste for mill.
>TQTribal or midrange
>>94859971*typal
>>94859559>What's your favorite deck or playstyle?Group hug
>>94859959Some tried to steal my Cynette once, I countered it then played armageddon next turn to teach him a lesson, the other players were out do they didn't care and i had bridges so i ended up winning a few turns later.
>>94859968You're not wrong and neither am I.
>>94859927Your cards? You mean our cards.
>>94859967Mono b has some good ramp but I saw a player not run crypt ghast cause he thought the extort made it count as W/B in identity. It's always something I bring up whenever someone is in mono black.It's fine to enjoy making people feel bad but remember that others might enjoy your tears too. So if you have any strategies you hate playing against don't mention it.Or do if you want to be fair. Everyone crying can be fun.
>>94859990I do not live in soviet russia
>>94859976Thanks, but I'm straight.
>>94859984Just means that you gotta play with very logical people. Which is really fucking rare.Heck I'm pretty neither of us actually play logically all the time. I think there was a study where most people think they're more rational and logical than the norm. It's almost a guarantee every one of us has made irrational decisions driven by emotion in even recent magic games.
>>94860016Anon, it's a game, its's supposed to be fun, not logical, if you want that you need to play CEDH or sixty card
>>94860034Yeah but stuff like mill is unfortunately hated even if logically it isn't really that strong. There's some strats that are less feasible just cause it rustles jimmies, even if they can be fun to play.
>>94860053Mothman and Coram might be good options for a mill deck that pepole won't hatw you for
>>94860068Both of them give people proper reason to hate mill even more, because they present actual and feasible winconditionsSame reason why Sultai - Bant - Temur are absolute cancer, because they provide the answer to the simple meme question: What if the Simic value engine had a wincon?
>>94860083Coram's major wincon is milling yourself to get good shit in the grave. It's very rare most other types of decks are running shit like Yargle and Multani, Malignus, or Lord of Extinction.
>>94859559>tqI guess you could consider my favorite style to be stax, but it's less about stopping others from playing and more about overcomplicating every interaction to create the "this isn't magic anymore" fallacy.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>94859698Your friend is correct. You are boring
>>94860140no one is crying about self mill
>>94860601Then Coram can't possibly be bitched about. Without access to blue and with no real motivation to bother, he is very unlikely to mill anyone for any large quantity of cards.
Do you think they're going to reveal the precon face cards today, or will those be saved for Thursday/Friday?
>>94859819Nethroi. You dump Scourge of the Skyclaves into your yard so you can revive 30 power worth of creatures with the mutate.
>Some guy managed to get a phyrexian obliterator with pariah on the board>One of the other players has goaded my entire board.>The 4th player has go wide and has so many blocks my board will mostly die if I attack him too.
>>94859559>What's your favorite deck or playstyle?Flickering ETBs. Currently working on a bant deck to take advantage of it.
I want to build the explodie lady
>>94859559>What's your favorite deck or playstyle?I'm a simple man. Aggro, stompy, tribal.
>>94860345Pretty high CMC, only really good with pingers/ cheap burn spells where you can divide out the damage
>>94861039Captain america
>>94859716Same, im sure we're not the only ones.
>>94859636This deck is a massive pain in the ass to play against, isnt it? >>94861050True.
>nearly 60 bucksThink it will go down in the next 4 months or is this printing always going to be a whale tax?
>>94859617I'm building a beatdown rakdos after playing too much prosper. What do you think?https://moxfield.com/decks/4QezXxRwKE6pd8YMODIz2g
>>94861084I sure hope it is, otherwise I have failed to build the deck right
>>94860345Mothman
>>94861120what do you think?will there be massive openings of the collector boosters of a mere remaster over the next 4 months, while actual new sets like>Aetherdrift>Tarkir: Dragonstormare set to be released in that timeframe? you can take a hard and wild guess what most consumers are budgeting for
>>94861120>ugly treatment of a card that's too much of a pain in the ass to bother runningI wouldn't.
>>94861363Then its worth it to buy a box and try and sell chase cards.
>>94861181That's what I was thinking, I never thought I would be tempted by UB slop but it's such an interesting commander
>>94861427Only if you get lucky pulls, its a gamble
>>94861013>activate only as a sorceryCucked commander. But I understand it would be too annoying otherwise.
>>94861441the only real interesting bit about him is the new type of counter you have to explain to your table at least 4 times per any given game
>>94861427I was tempted to buy a collector box because I love Innistrad but it feelsl ike a shit set where it's really fuking hard to get your money back. 90% of the chase cards care commander only chaff.Also right now the prices are at their highest, once the set properly release they will go down.
>>94861485>I love Innistrad but it feelsl ike a shit set where it's really fuking hard to get your money back.Some cards in it are going for 100 dollars and it has shit like cratorhoof. Breaking even doesn't seem that far fetched to be honest.
I like this
>>94861629WOW FREE 10 DROPS OH BOY I LOVE CHEATING COSTS.
perfect for my Jenara deck
>>94861690What an unnecessary and dogshit card
>>94861690Why yes, I put an indestructible counter in this, blow up the board and then have 10 free mana.
>>94861629I'm so glad I stayed awake too long just to see this. Varina gets a fancy new toy that benefits from all of my discard = draw effects. Putting Compulsion back in for sure.
>>94861629I feel like lazotep plating should have armor nipples like Batman Forever
>>94861629Tortured Existence looking extra spicy
>>94861713>putting it in a zombie deckwhat's the fucking point? making a zombie a zombie?
>>94861629Ugly art, but pretty damn good ability
>>94861629god damnit this thing is good
>>94861629>EDH now with no thought required!
>>94861690Geee captain america can get this going pretty much right away
>>94861629>good card design>in my magic the gathering>actually utilizes something similar to eternalize but not overpriced and shitty
>>94861803Objectively not good design retardkun.
>>94861757This doesn't have a way to discard built in OR ward 3 so it's pretty tame by 2025 standards.
>>94861808Explain to me what makes it bad designit's>on theme for the plane>perfectly retrofits a specific type of token making mechanic>utilizes all 3 colors>isn't massively overcosted>doesn't make an engine on its own (if it had its own loot/discard ability it'd be retarded FIRE)
>>94861629Based>>94861690Cringe
ffs
>>94861629lulz
right in to the 99 of my Ramos big mana
>>94861823Cheating costs is bad design
>>94861885You're bad design, that card is fine.
>>94861885because....? come on anon, articulate a point
>>94861713Are you an aussie?
>>94861843I like the Exhaust abilities, the idea of having a card with a super strong ability you can only use once is cool. And i presume that blinking it means you get to use it again, since its a new game object
>>94861908Nope, east coaster. It's 1pm and I haven't slept yet for various reasons.
Aetherdrift set looks fucking hilarious. Loving the salt from no fun losers
>>94861896Jesus christ wotc, the fuck is this?
>>94861896ONE BLUE MANADRAW THREE CARDSand you can try again if you play Loot second time from command zone.
>>94861920>Nope, east coaster. It's 1pm and I haven't slept yet for various reasonsProbably the cocaine
>>94861944well, JRPGs are like cocaine for me so that sounds about rightalso i am UNGODLY excited for this fucker. He's straight up Knowledge is Power but on a Zombie body with decent stats and in-built Looting
>>94861944That would make him cool, bumps bourbon beers and magic is fun; it was probably the aids.
>>94861943you mean after you blink him
>>94861880https://youtu.be/lDeThz30JtQThis card's theme song.
>>94861943you just displacer kitten him
Planeswalkers have been pretty bad in general for the last couple of years, but this one feels especially trash
>>94861970I was about to give you flack for not having it be Kickstart My Heart, but this is absolutely acceptable.FAT CUPPA PISS
This is pretty slow but could be good
Okay. I'm okay with this afterall. My queen, the artificer tribal is in my future.
>>94862035having a karnstruct in your command zone in azorius is not slow
>>94861894No it is a poorly designed card like literally every card spoiled in this thread so far. Disgustingly bad design>>94861895Not even going to dignify this retardation with a response go play Yugioh
>>94861880Buy your Umbral Mantles boyos.
>>94861896>three exhaustsovertuned
>>94862061Loot? Fucking awful. That esper dude? It's alright.
>esper zombies>not jund zombiesI fucking hate how esper gets EVERYTHING. Zombies being blue never made any sense at all.
>>94862121>all the best zombies are dimir>none of them are gruul>very few are rakdos>THIS CARD SHOULD BE JUNDNo.
>>94862121I guess its to lean into how blue is the experimental color, and that they often modify and experiment on life with black.I NEVER understood the white slice for zombies that got popular though.
>>94862062So with that you can just get infinite mana for abilities and toss a shitton of permanents into the field? Damn that seems cool.
>>94861998Thats because she's the wrong colors for vehicles
>>94862166in this set everyone is right color for vehicles
>>94862161You'd want some way to fill your hand. I was looking into Gruul card with activated abilities and theyre nooooot great.
>>94862182walking ballista
Praise Kek
>>94862178You actually think what they shosed us compares to Azorious Shorikai?
>>94862039Mm. Going to have to think long and hard about whether to swap out Riku for her. She can copy enchantments and artifacts, but not instants or sorceries, and only gets one copy per turn. Her copy gets sacrificed, but she doesn't need to be on the board when you copy it. Much easier infinite with Lightning Runner, less capacity for infinites with things like Academy Manufactor. Adds slight energy flow through casting artifacts and is less mana-hungry than Riku, but loses out on utility.
>TTGL referenceok I'll build him
>>94861962Well fuck. I guess I'm buying that deck. Gonna use the face commander for my Zombie deck.
>>94861896LMAO AND IT'S WITH COLORS THAT CAN CLONE EASILY FUCK THAT EXHAUST
>>94861962>5 mana TemmetDoes that seem ridiculously overcosted for an ungabunga combat based commander or am I missing something?
>>94862035START YOUR ENGINES!!!
>>94861880Discount Marwyn
>>94862202Need the anime alt.
>>94862243Chandra has a big bum?
>>94862343I need the anime alt for this
>>94862351Simic biomancers move tits to her ass for better aerodynamics.
>>94862202Boring.
>>94862039hmmm kinda cool
>>94862358That’s a boy tho
>>94862243And people wonder how Thing, Japan is almost always better.
>>94862391>That’s a boy thoNo she's not. So we need an anime alt foil art.
>>94862409 No foils
>>94862210Another Food Chain infinite.
my local meta has a serious love for mindslaver effects, multiple people are running emrakul, mindslaver, and worst fears, how can i use this to my advantage
>>94862402almost
>>94862541>tutor and counter doublerDesign in this game is so fucking dead holy shit
>>94862541
>>94862521deflecting swat effects
>>94862577Not doubler my had still dead design
Set looks like shit, I’m honestly relieved. Vehicles aren’t Magic, if they’d actually printed good cards and mae them vehicles I’d have been mad
>>94862057too bad it's not a real karnstruct. I was hyped until I saw the P/T.
>Exhaust - Cool idea>Start your Engines/Speed - Stupid I hate it>Vehicle focus - Stupid they are not fun >Goofy aesthetic - Awful >Frog God - NOT A FROG WHAT THE HELL WHYAt least this guy looks neat as a Connive/reanimator
>>94862605But all the cards posted are absurd levels of busted anon. There's literally a card with ancestral recall and dark ritual printed on it
>>94862358>extra gay Amuro Ray
This will always be the best Vehicle commander btw
Am I retarded or does Ancient Cellarspawn have good synergy with Hitdetsugu, Devouring Chaos? I'm new to brewing and I'm not sure how to rate spells. Are my observations correct?1. In general, 1BB for a 3/3 is underwhelming2. If both creatures are in play, Ancient Cellarspawn could *almost* double the dmg inflicted by Hitdetsugu in some situations.3. If only Ancient Cellarspawn is in play, the Commander is easier to cast. (good for commander tax)4. Deck could have a demon subtheme.
>>94862633Nah. You faggots constantly misjudge new cards.
>>94862630>NOT A FROG WHAT THE HELL WHYMost gods don’t get subtypes beyond God. In fact, I think it’s only the Ravnican Gruul gods that do. Oh, and the ones that Bolas eternalized.
>>94862666cellarspawn only cares about the difference in paid cost versus mana value, and hidetsugu doesn't provide a cost reduction for his bullshit.
Friend just sent me this. This is fake, right?
>>94862671Some of us do. Some of us are right bery consistently. I need to see the exact wording for exhaust, so I guess I'll have to wait before I render judgment, but loot seems like an B- storm commander, and potentially A- in the 99. That esper discard thing is a solid A. The gw guy is irrelevant, as are the preconmanders.
>>94862671There is a card with one of the power 9 stapled onto it. You are retarded
>>94862702What's wrong with it
>>94862702No, we Spy Kids 3 now
>>94862703Exhaust is once per game unless blinked>>94862705Holy fucking newfaghttps://scryfall.com/card/mh2/197/garth-one-eye
>>94859559>TQ:My experience with card games before Magic was Hearthstone so I've found I enjoy creature based strategies that try to control the board by destroying enemy creatures. Gargos and Rith are probably my favorite decks.
>>94862734Phew, good thing he isnt in colors with blink! Wouldnt that be something!
>>94862734What about it? Loot is a better card than this lol
>>94862749blue?
>>94859698Tell him that tutors are functionally just another copy of the card he tutors for.
>set about racing and being fast>one of the prime mechanics takes at least 4 of your turns to become active HUH???
>>94862749Counterspell.Also if you are paying blink costs to get the effect suddenly it’s not as fucking good anymore you retard.>>94862751>muh power 9 stapled on!!!!>that already exists>NOOO THATS NOT AS GOOOOOOD!!!!!K
>>94862734Lotus is good because if it's not a token it is easily broken.... this isn't complicated, I thought you were good at the game anon that's an incredibly basic and important distinction here
>>94862734Like I said, I need the exact wording to figure it out exactly how broken it is, but assuming there's nothing unusual there are still a few very powerful things it can do.
>>94862767You are so unbelievably garbage at card evaluation holy shit hahahahaha.>Dude its not pushed at all, just counterspell it!
>>94862692True, he doesn't, but the entire deck relies on casting spells from exile with reduced mana cost like picrel.If both Hidetsugu and Cellarspawn are in play and there are 6 creature cards in my graveyard (best case scenario). I could cast Writhing Necromass for B, opponent takes 7 damage and an additional 6 damage from Cellarspawn.
Screencapping you retards for when it’s out and not even played that much
>>94862734>Exhaust is once per gameOh coo->unless blinkedSo it is just another generic ability then, would be cooler if it was once per game regardless of zones
>>94862630Luv' me Graveyard
>>94862804What card are you talking about? Also, you'll conviently forget to include the caps of everyone who's right.
>>94862702because it's a black man or because it's busted
I thought this is Verstappen set not Hamilton?
>>94862764I think it's 3 turns, but that's irrelevant to the point you were making.
>>94862862Honestly I was expecting more gimi set.
>>94862764it's a mechanic for limited, just ignore it
>>94862856>blocks with a 1/1 squirrelyou were saying?
Too many black people legendaries
>>94862916So it goes
I swear I’ll get around to building Grist some day
>>94862942Zask still reigns as insect king.
>>94861137I'm seeing a lot of combat damage while the commander seems like it's more aligned for burn. I'm all for big combat, but this seems like a pile of generic good rakdos cards. Like you looked at EDHREC, typed in "best rakdos cards" and hit autocomplete until you hit 100 cards.- Valgavoth does not synergize with much of what you have- Fire Covenant is a cool card, but it's just removal that drains you. No synergy with your commander or the rest of your deck whatsoeverYou could swap the commander for any other rakdos commander and nothing would change. I'd honestly start from the ground up and look at ways you can damage opponents without necessarily using creature damage.If it's the combat you like, I'd say look at a different rakdos commander alltogether.
>have a Varina deck>one of the precons is literally esper zombie tribalI don't know how to feel about this, it's crazy that the specific niche I want is getting a lot of support but at the same time if there's too many new cards to add to the deck making the necessary swaps is gonna suck.
>>94862703The Esper discard thing IS a precommander.
As a general rule are you more likely to counterspell the tutor? Or wait for what they tutored?
>>94862964I just think Grist is neat
>>94862998Yeah. I built a Temur energy deck five years ago and am going through roughly the same thing that you are.
>>94863003Depends on the skill of your opponent. The rule is counter the card tutored because they can still draw it or tutor it again, but a skilled opponent is going to anticipate this and set up lines around expected removal. This means countering the tutor can be a tempo play and a great way to unexpectedly force your opponents hand. My advice? Counter the card tutored for.
>>94861629This looks pretty cool. Yeah definitely one I'd want to check out. But he's in Aetherdrift? This guy is in the race? Does he have a car or something?
>>94861843So that's what happen to him. He became a ghost car driver.
>>94863074It seems like the commander decks are more about showcasing the two planes than interacting with the race
>>94862630This guy does feel great. Feels like a good alternate take on The Scarab God.
>>94863088And after he lost the race, Valvagoth literally dragged him kicking and screaming back to Duskmourn.
>>94862630I approve of this commander.
>>94862942Oh she's going straight into Mothman and The Master.
>>94863093That is correct. I was actually genuinely surprised we didn't get a Vehicle commander precon, but this time they decided to "only" do two commander precons and doing an Amonkhet-themed deck and a Kaladesh Energy deck took priority.
>>94862916
>>94863072Im not sure why you would ever counter the tutor and not the card
>>94863018Keeping in theme of the gods not being able to attack or block but working in speed. That's at least in theme.>>94863093
>>94863170These all seem awful? It will take three turns of them taking damage to even get it online
>>94863093Oh, yeah alright that makes sense. I was preparing to see The Scarab God or someone drop by in a lazotep dragster. Didn't know it wouldn't all be racer themed.
A Raskdos gearhulk sounds wako bannanas desu
>tokens>1/1 counters>max speedHow do we go from BLB and Duskmourne to this fucking dogshit. Say what you want about either set but neither were just tokens and counters
>>94861629The amount of braindead anons impressed by a other way to cheat costs is depressing the community for this game is so dogshit
>>94863169you counter the tutor if the opponent is likely to have graveyard stuff going on, yeah they can regrowth the tutor too but its more likely that graveyard decks have recursion effects that hit permanents
>>94863170Probably the fairest 2 mana land in existence so fair it will not see play
>>94863181They're obviously designed for limited.
>>94863170replaces Temple of the False God in every precon within a year.
>>94863170The worst ancient tomb ever.>>94863169I explained it? If you're playing against skilled players, they'll do shit like tutor on the end step before their turn, and untap with protection and the intention of comboing out. They might be grabbing their key card, they might be grabbing fow or dovin's veto, there's no way for you to tell and they arent even obligated to windmill slam the card they tutored for that turn. If you're a skilled player and think you can out-tempo the tutor, it's worth a shot to fuck up your opponents gameplan, but that's galaxy brain shit beyond 95% of this general.
>>94863170Is speed a counter on the player?
>>94862771>>94862772>>94862787Did you faggots even read the card’s cost? 5 mana. And then an additional green to tap for 3. That is functionally worse than Gilded Lotus. >b-but you’re paying for the OPTIONS!The card is fine. Anyone calling it broken or pushed is retarded.
>>94862998>the necessary swapswhat an awful way to put it
>>94863271You're not very smart and I really dont want to spoonfeed you because you're an idiot, but imagine there was a way to use activated abilities without paying the cost of the creature. Especially multiple times a turn.
>>94863252no, it's an un-interactable mechanic
>>94862942
>>94863300Ok thats what i meant. You can have 4 speed accrued when you play that land right?If so its fine and playable
>>94863290>but imagine there was a way to use activated abilities without paying the cost of the creature. Especially multiple times a turn.Lmao you gonna Illusionist Bracers bro? Maybe a little Marvin the Mimic? We busting out Conjurers Closet and Dead Eye Navigator?Every mana you spend to activate the effect a second time is contributing to the cost being worse. At a certain point you might as well run a fucking 6 mana draw 3 spellFuck I wish these threads were separated by skill level
>>94863316on top of that the first trigger doesn't use the stack so it cannot be stifled
>>94863241>A major mechanic of the set is only for limited
>>94863325Yes, you would be religated to a lower power bracket based on that answer, and again, I'm not going to spoonfeed you. If you read that card as 6 mana draw 3 and not mana, card draw, and a wincon with haste, I dont know what to tell you.
>>94863357>I’m not even gonna run it as Commander bro!!!! It’s going in the 99!!! Then i-I-I’ll Worldly Tutor for it! Yeah! And then- then Kona Rescue Beastie it out! And then I get 3 mana bro!!!! That’s a wincon bro!!! It’s BUSTED!!!!How much mana you spending to do that, anon?
>>94863392I'll give you a hint: no more than 3BU to win the game. Less with a mild amount of setup.
>>94863401Sorry, I fatfingered it, 3BG. Shit happens.
>>94863401You’re so incredibly delusional
>>94861629Holy shit imagine this with Panharmonicon or Strionic Resonator to just double the token output
>>94863410I already rated it B- as a commander and A- as a combo piece. That's a very specific amount of mana including one in a colour that it isnt. It's almost like I have at least one specific line in mind.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/aetherdrift-mechanics> Pop quiz, hotshots. Which new mechanic is the most bussin'?Oh this is why MTG is declining- too many zoomers at wotc
>>94863415>PanharmoniconWon't work because it is only ETB triggersIllusionist's Bracers though will work
Can anyone recommend land hate or underrated land destruction cards? I'm building Coram MLD with the plan of using his ability and land recursion to stay ahead on mana, but aside from the obvious MLD sorceries, strip mine, blood Moon, and the like I'm looking for other efficient forms of land hate and resource denial. My table is full of blue and simic players so nothing is too mean.
>>94863439>look bro, imma be honest wit u- I read the effect and not the cost, and when you pointed out that it's 6 mana create 3 I had to backtrack to calling it a combo piece. I'm very embarrassed but I can't back down on the internet due to defects in how I was raised, so I have to do this cryptic bullshit because if I just said what I was referring to I would be open to criticism and probably embarrassed again. This is the only way I can call this a win and move on without thinking about how stupid I am at 3am when I'm trying to sleepOkay.
>>94863452Yeah man, zoomers totally write like that unironically and it's not some 45 year old man trying to appeal to the youths
>>94863181If you have ways of gaining speed beforehand, its okay? Kind of if it works like Citys Blessing.But even then its niche. I agree with the other anon that its essentially "Slightly Better Temple of the False God."
I'm glad my initial impressions on spoilers are lukewarm so I can save some money. Some cards I'll probably get as singles later but the set as a whole doesn't grab me. Something about this rubs me the wrong way. It's like if Fortnite was turned into a Universes Within set.
>>94861713It might be a fine inclusion but I'm not convinced it's a must play. First of all it's one of those creatures whose effect merely amplifies what your commander does, either your entire deck has a ton of discard effects or it might be one of those cards that offers nothing outside of synergy with your commander. Secondly, while the pseudo card advantage you get from the built in reanimate is nice, there's not that many worthile targets for a 3 mana effect in zombies as a tribe. Zombies is general are a horde tribe, not a big individual threat one, I think this dude might actually be better suited for something like a Raffine reanimator deck than a zombie tribal.
>>94863499Wow that's quite the post. See:>>94862703
>>94863458keldon firebombers is one of my favorites altho it's more impactful when people don't see it coming
>>94861880>base art looks better than the premium borderless versionI hate when that happens... I don't like seeing the ugly gold piss borders on my cards
>>94863540>I-I never even said it was that good!Except when you said >>94862705>There is a card with one of the power 9 stapled onto itinb4 "that wasn't meeeeee!"Then aren't you a silly billy for jumping in on someone else's conversation?Take the L lil gup.
>>94862630I just can't wrap my head around holding a 20th/21st century sporting event on the SAAR plane full of zombies and demi-Gods. They just saw that Indiadesh had an energy mechanic associated with it and were like "Uhhh, vehicles run on energy don't they? Let's have it there!"But hey, I guess I'm not being fair. It's not let they already had a perfect plane steeped the aesthetics of the 1920s-40s when vehicle racing was at it's cultural peak that they've already shown already has both vehicles and vehicle races and a mafia which would have something worth racing for stashed around to offer as a grand prize.
>>94863458Wake of Destruction can wreck if youre playing multiole people in W/U. Decree of Annihilation is one of my favorites but might not fit here if you want to play it from the yard.
>>94863559What they should have done IMO is have a Mad Max inspired plane instead of this, or just leave Vehicles where they belong in the trash
>>94861962Scarab God just got outdated holyyyyyy
>>94863507Ok zoomer
>>94859927>humiliation ritualYes.
>>94863558>it's the standard player who doesnt know how to evaluate assassins trophyHi gay baby standard playing anon. It seems you've realized that not everyone is the same person and have chosen to preemptively cope about it. Not my problem, though I'm not sure why you're posting here after that fiasco yesterday.
>>94862916Once the full set is released imma do the percentages of non-whites+women to white/asian men
>>94861120Even if it does cathar's is a miserable card. I don't care if it's good I won't run it because keeping track of 10000+ tokens with individual P/T becomes real annoying real fast.
What cards are good to run with miracle cards?Obviously Top, Scroll Rack, BrainstormWhat else?
>>94863559They mention New Capenna in an article about coming up with the story, and dismiss it because it's a plane about three-color factions and totally not because it was a critical failure
>>94863170More like Uragupda Pooway.
>>94863586>it's the standard player who doesnt know how to evaluate assassins trophyHave you finally gone full schizo? Are the standard players in the room with you right now?You didn't read the card, you has an impulsive reaction, you were embarrassed. It isn't reddit, if you just stop coping about your mistake no one will even know it was you
>>94861896>triple keyboards>in G/U/R for untapsThis is silly.The doublestrike and haste are just jacking off at this point lmao.
>>94863559>They just saw that Indiadesh had an energy mechanic associated with it There’s also the small matter of Kaladesh being the set that introduced vehicles to the game.
>>94862942Holy shit is that a femboy bug prince??? WE ARE SO BACK
>>94863559In a perfect world, New Capenna would never have been printed. Even in this imperfect one, we can hope to never see it again.
>>94862202>not a frogFuckers
>>94863018>haste>can't attack unless you have max speedSo this thing is an absolutely useless Commander
>>94863616Yes, actually. You went on a giant rant around this time yesterday about how assassins trophy was a bad card, and even our resident argumentative shitposter called you a faggot. But let's rewind, what did I say as soon as you mass replied and called me retarded?>imagine there was a way to use activated abilities without paying the cost of the creature. Especially multiple times a turn.And then you went full retard.
>>94863580Funny you say that
>>94861120I like their attempt to bring down costs of way overblown cards by just making alts for investard faggots to chase. They need to do this with every card over 5 bucks, print the regular version to hell alongside a very small run of alt card chase prints. Or in the case of dumb shit like the reserved list, print a bunch of alts into the ground while leaving the original art untouched.Of course none of this actually affects me since I just proxy everything over $2 anyways, but it really shows how stupid and fake the whole financial side of TCGs are.
>>94863636You can use it's unblockable ability, play it turn 2, and even if It's removed you can still get max speed
>>94863170>speed countersCARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES
>>94863624They say she’s a girl in the reveal trailer, this is her last race as apparently part of her species’ life cycle is to turn into cars
>>94862856oh god 7 damage, who can save me?
>>94863639>You went on a giant rant around this time yesterday about how assassins trophy was a bad card,Did I now? Fascinating how I have no memory of that. I'm sure you're right though, after all you were so right about the new Loot, right?
BITCH BASTARD ORZHOV FUCK YOU ARE GOING TOO SLOW! YOU ALMOST HIT CHANDRA! GET OFF THE TRACK SAAR
>>94863684>>94863668Please buy booster boxes. Its a good set goys
>>94862942>>94862702>>94862630>have to get borderless if you don't want vehicle slop on your cardsThat's actually ingenious
>>94863684saheeli yuo are crashing the car
>>94863647Every card must be its own engine and payoff
>>94862210Man this art looks insane but it will probably be like $300 and out of my budget...Call me crazy though but this set looks insane compared to Innistrad Remastered I'm glad I was too poor to preorder it, will probably buy an Aetherdrift box now
>LGS doesn't allow proxies unless you own the card.
>>94863704>will probably buy an Aetherdrift box nowBuy an ad.
>>94863718What's an ad?
>>94863717I own the card, I just keep it in a topper at home in my basement.
>>94863673play some other formats sometime
>>94860016Go back to redd*t and stay there loser fucking faggot.
>>94863723Your post
>first place foils look exactly like those world championship deck proxiesThey've gone full circle
>>94863647yet another strong wommy. So fucking tired all males look like winnies.
>>94863771Huh? I thought you were talking about the card game?
>>94863777What the fuck is that. That's awful. What is that. Jesus.
>Energy Precon in March of the Machine>Energy Precon in Fallout >Energy Precon in Modern Horizons 3>Energy Precon in AetherdriftWHO IS THIS MYTHICAL ENERGY LOVING AUDIANCE?
>the women continue to look ugly>the big beefy sexy cat men continue to look big beefy and sexyMan I love being catered to
>>94863799
>>94863792>gee wilikers guys I wasn't sure about this Aetherdrift TM officially licensed Wizards of the Coast product but now I might just have to buy a whole box of it for $118.99 MSRP!Ad.Set is shit. Looks like shit. Vehicles are shit. Themepark sets are shit. No one likes it, least of all here.
>>94863777Finaly no one will make a big eye when they pick my proxies to read the cards.
>>94863806Extremely based
>>94863814How much does Wizards of the Coast pay you to sit here all day and be negative about the sets?
>>94863822Kek im afraid this is one time the old "im rubber, you're glue" isn't going to work you retarded shill
>>94863751I play pauper and premodern besides EDH just get fucked.
>>94863806How the fuck does a trailer sized chariot with a 1300 pound demon and his zombie entourage weighing it down keep up with futuristic aerodynamic motorcycles piloted by a 5'1 110 pound person?
>>94863839Imagine if this race was set in Neon Kamigawa instead of dumbass Kalajeet
>>94863846Please, no…they’ve already ruined Kamigawa enough…
>>94863777>let's print Death's shadow>but also staple draw card on itI understand there's tons of cards that exist already but jesus christ
>>94861896They are really desperate to make people want to play that ugly pokemon
>>94863854I'd rather old Kamigawa as well but if they are going to go in on the Neon aesthetic they should have just went full Akira instead of Hearthstone lite.It's not like we can't get a time spiral Kamigawa set either that takes place in best Kamigawa time
>>94863846Nashi would have been way cooler if they played him to be the main character in that caseScrappy underdog winning the race to try and save his dying mother from Jin Gitaxias winning the Piston Cup
>>94863862>>but also staple draw card on itFor 3What the fuck is it with people ITT literally just reading card effects and not costs?
>>94863806Oh this is ni->once each turnFuck.
>>94862202BBWchads are winning
>>94863839>magicLore-wise they win because everyone ahead of them crashed due to old consulate members participating in a coup led by Jace.
>>94863868Yes? That is still card draw stapled to a death's shadow anonIt's still death's shadow with an upside that's harder to remove because of crew. It's lazy design.
So it looks like Greasefang still the king of vehicles.
>>94863777It should have trample or menace
Your opponent has 60 life and an aetherflex reservoir in play.He says if anyone attacks him he will beam them for lethal.Do you attack him anyway?>Hard modeYou don't have a stifle or instant speed combo to get around the trigger.
>>94863911>triggeri meant activation
>>94863911Yes, because cowards don't make it to heaven.
>>94863911If he's unwilling to use it yet then I have time to draw into an answer to get around the trigger and he might be stupid enough not to notice me get to survivable life.
>>94863897Greasefang is a lady. Kolodin I guess is the king.
>>94863911>you're at sub50 lifeyou deserve to lose
>>94863932Do you know his pronouns? Its he/him buddy
>>94862289You've gotta be careful when rewarding players for what they want to do anyways. You also get +1/+1 drawing for turn, so he makes a board very scary very quickly without needing to attack himself. He's not a commander you play for 5 mana, you build up a board with a few zombies, cast him, cast brainstorm, and crash into someone for 60 damage.
>>94863869You can Blink him to make it happen more than once a turnIt's just the whole Max Speed thing that basically makes him a 5 mana Commander since you need to hit your opponent 3 times with some form of damage before he unlocks the Zombie token effect
>>94863948I don't really care about the zombies, the sacrifice ability is what's nice. The max speed is just a bonus
>>94863942
The art on these cards doesn't feel right, but I can't put my finger on why.
>>94863911If he's talking he's weak. If he could blast you without consequence he would. He wants to buy himself time. I wouldn't give him any. Full attack, even the dorks and Commander.
>>94864079They all have terrible shading and are deliberately designed to avoid any hint of potential sexuality so the poses are all weird and the characters look like shit.
>>94861629So is he th precon commander then?>>94861962 or is it this guy? Either way they seem like they go hand in hand.
>>94863967So Greasefang still the best Vehicle commander ok I take that
>>94864117Temmet's the face, Hashaton is the secondary.
>>94863559Genuinely have no clue why Capenna wasn't in some way involved.
>>94864145Mark Rosewater actually explained that they considered it, but considering they were for sure use Kaladesh/Avishkar, Capenna would've been just 'another city' and they wanted each plane to be distinct. Why Capenna and Kamigawa don't have any RACERS involved is a bit questionable though.
>>94863668This is absolutely just the Turbo Duel set. Even has speed counters like the Duel Runners had.
>>94862243Really sick art, shame she fucking sucks
>>94864153Guess them already having decided which planes before hand explains it. Weird as that is. But it certainly doesn't explain why Capenna or Kamigawa or really any other planes don't have racers. Isn't everything connected through those omen paths now? Thought for sure we'd see a Gisa and Geralf too. Right after Thunder Junction.
>>94864193Eh, Innistrad feels irrelevant to something like this, and they already have the Duskmourn team for the 'spooky racers'. It is a little weird that the only 'returning plane' racers outside of Amonkhet and Avishkar are Kylem and Duskmourn though. Kamigawa feels like a shoe-in and it's not like the shark people DID anything in the race anyway, you could replace them.
>>94864174Her face could be a bit prettier but overall it does look nice, I like how the Aetherflux contrasts all the reds
>>94864174Only thing she sucks is clit (canonically)
Magic setting is absolute shit at this point and needs to be reset
>>94863911yes I swing at him I don't care if it's a bluff or not I don't negotiate with niggerflux terrorists
>>94864126The face commander isn't always the best one though. Does anyone ever play whatever the face commander of Shorikai's deck was?
>>94863806>>94863948I'll be building a new lurrus deck
>>94864357>Magic setting is absolute shit at this point and needs to be resetNeeds more UB to fix it
>>94864386I legitimately forgot that Shorikai wasn't the face commander. Kotori mostly gets mentioned for looking weird and that's it, though maybe people are digging back into the archives for vehicle commanders. Speaking of which, there's this guy from the Assassin's Creed set.
This set looks so fucking ugly, the cards the themes the power of the cards. Makes sense this dogshit general is lapping it up
If i want to buy a card over 10 bucks I usually just buy a booster or two of whichever set it's from (if realistic not like 15 dollar boosters) and then just print the card if I don't pull it. I figure it's fair, I paid, I am owed cards I would like to use. Thoughts on this proxy mindset?>just buy the singlesGambling is fun and contributions are being made to the MtG market regardless
>>94864193The flavor article mentioned that Avishkar and Ravnica are emerging as interplanar political superpowers and, for the time being, are maneuvering around each other like nominally-friendly elephants in a very small room. It’s possible that Capenna and Kamigawa are more aligned with the Ravnican hegemony and so didn’t participate for political reasons.
>>94864357Step 1: All dragons are sexually frustrated and bisexual.
>>94864357Sadly as you can see the community is all too happy for this garbage so that will never happen in any meaningful manner
>>94864357>t. Jace
>>94864529Don't give a fuck. Once Elon buys it things will be better (assuming he hires the right ghostwriter whose work he claims as his own)
>>94864548Elon won't buy it, he was being a performative dickhead, that's literally what he does. He did the same thing with Twitter but then Twitter basically called his bluff.
>>94864443>this dogshit general is lapping it up>say the inverse of reality>guaranteed (You)s!
>>94864586Have you even read the thread anon???????????
>>94864586It's funny how much he supposedly hates Magic yet lurks here 24/7It's okay to just admit you're a scalper who knows nothing about the game, no one is going to avoid the set just because you say it's dogshit so you can buy in at a low floor lmao
>They printed a second version of the Sam Hyde commander while Modern is still being raped by Boros Energy
>>94864605Show me, anon. Because I can show you people shitting on the set.
>>94864632Who cares, it doesn't get into Modern.
>>94864483Any sealed product purchased just signifies your enthusiasm with Galadriel being an African-American
>>94864632Jay Dyer commander when
New thread>>94864695>>94864695
>>94863799I've literally never seen an energy deck in the wild, and my store's scene is pretty big.
>>94864619I love magic i do not like this set what are you talking about i am making a new deck for this weekend as we speak
>>94864246>Duskmourn team for the 'spooky racers'Oh right. Forgot about Winter. Yeah fair enough then.
>>94864520It's possible they did send racing teams but they were in one of the lower leagues that apparently did some races but went almost completely unmentioned by the story.
>>94864357Hard agree, but thankfully the lore is 100% ignorable. Most fantasy has become garbage.
>>94862967At first it was a Karlach deck but I like Florian as card selection while the rest of the deck is all combat. In a way I wanted a deck that doesn't rely on the commander. It is good stuffy as in I want cards that give good tempo but still give a bit of value. That's the reason for Valgavoth in the deck. This tries to be an aggressive deck without token shit cause I dont care about tokens.
>>948618969/10 times this thing comes out draws and eats a Doom Blade immediately.
>>94864520This is the first line of text I have ever seen that makes me like the idea of omenpaths
>>94864529What community? Nobody except "investooooors" and trannies buys this garbage anymore and we know it because at least for last 3 years MTG is in financial freefall.>>94864548>He still believes in whatever autistic baby Elon says himShiggy Diggy....
