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>>96436405
Could look into FEC as well. They've got a range of chaff to big lads.
Otherwise just pick whatever you're happy to spend hours painting.

>>96436405
If you're looking for horde with a bit of large monsters, Skaven fill that pretty well. They have a good mix of ranged and melee along with hordes of trash and bigger monsters. Death in general should fit that as well, but there wouldn't be much for ranged.

Would James be so cheeky as to wait for October to release the SBGL Spearhead?

>>96436735
You know he absolutely would.
Same as Chorfs

>>96436735
Will it be vampire themed, bone themed, or a mix?

>>96436864
Spooky scary skeletons

I wonder if/when they'll update Hexwraiths. It'd be cool to see Nighthaunt get some real cavalry, but I'd be down for them to go to Soulblight as more of a grim reaper cav instead. Hopefully looking more interesting than the Barrow Knights at least.

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>>96436398
Don Quixote as a court knight would be fucked up because she is snapped out of her delusion but still plays the role

>>96436898
Unironically the flesh eater version of Don Quixote would be someone who can actually see reality but is still in the delusion.

GW sales must be down again they are rising prices soon. Anyone know if they are raising 40K prices too?

>>96436948
It applies to everything, always does. Games like HH and TOW are not immune either.

>>96436481
How much chaff are we talking about? Three blobs of twenty model dudes and three characters/monsters? I'd like to start AoS but I think the cheapest army for me to start are Blades of Khorne due to my numbers of red-skinned jakhals on 32mm bases.

>>96436923
>Attacks what his fellow FECs see as a windmill
>It's actually a mega gargant
Pure pottery

>>96436966
>Three blobs of twenty model dudes and three characters/monsters?
Up to you, I've seen elite monster mash FEC lists.
>I'd like to start AoS but I think the cheapest army for me to start are Blades of Khorne due to my numbers of red-skinned jakhals on 32mm bases.
If your mates are happy to let you proxy then go for it.

>>96436481
I wouldnt reccomend FEC if you dont like fighting the terrain. Besides that, the best fec lists dont use serfs at all. Stock ghouls have been bad for like three editions now

>>96436898
>FEC are magically delusional vampiric creatures playing the believe of being knights
>Don Quixote is a magically deluded Bloodfiend pretending to believe she's a noble Fixer
Fits, especially considering that, as it is implied with Ushoran, she would drop something serious out of the sudden then go back.
Also cuz Bloodfiends Family shtick

>>96436948
>sales down
>prices go up
that's not how that works. briefly checking their stock evaluation, with the exception of covid, it looks like they've been rising forever, they're doing this because they think they still haven't hit the peak of how much they can charge that people will still pay for. I won't pay for it, but I'm betting the 5% price increase won't stop most people. We're about 1 year out from people mortgaging their houses and spending 18 months paying off single model kits bought with Klarna

So do we have any 3rd Edition Battletomes stored somewhere?

I made a conscious decision and have actually been buying every book this edition.

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>>96437453
From the first to the third edition, plus bonus content.

https://files dot fm/u/p2hjvag9e8

>>96437453
Everything but the FeC, Khorne and Kharadron tomes are out there in the wild right now

>>96436966
As much or as little as you want, I've rocked Ush and a couple of Terrorgheists with a few heroes. Ghoul blocks go up to 40 with 20 base, cryptguard are in 10-20 blocks. You can get big cavalry and elite infantry monster thingys. But it's up to how you wanna run things, the roster isn't fuckoff massive but I enjoy what they've got.

You got options, except ranged. You have no real ranged options (I guess terrorgheist and crypt flayers?)

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>>96436897
I'd rather they just make dreadblades worth taking. It's a fucking sin they have such good looking models but GW refuses to do anything worthwhile with them.

Does anyone play underworlds? posted this >>96437535 but wanted to ask here too. I got into aos with skaventide and that's been great, but I'm also looking at underworlds as I have some friends who might be willing to try it out together

>reading deeper into the SBGL tome
>Deathrattle are usually easily controlled by Vampires, but with Wight Lords and Kings things are different
>it’s said that even Manfred would rather ally the regular way with them rather than try and force his will upon them
I know that they just a got a new Wight Lord and King model this edition, but were past editions this kind to the Skeletons in the lore?

>>96437510
Why are there 5 rows but 4 editions?

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>>96437699
Good news friend, I'm the underworlds guy!

Bad news friend the games in a bit of a fucking rough spot. Everything pre "current edition" other than the models is basically non compatible, BUT GOOD NEWS, everything old works together so if you can get some old lots together it'll be fine. All the old rivals decks, models, cards, boards, tokens, magic dice, etc. And it's honestly a very fun game. If you can find Harrowdeep and some older warbands cheap you could have a very fun time. It's a smaller but more close knit community online too.


Now for the annoying part. Embergard and everything that's come out since is only usable with Embergard, some old warbands have print and play rules online but you'll only be able to use cards and decks from Embergard. They "redid" the game which basically meant new warbands don't get their own decks anymore, everything is generic decks and a little bingo card for your warband abilities and stats.

>>96437710
Pre-first-edition weird wild west era
The source of the infamous mustache rules

>>96437510
>Reminding me that Nurgle didn't get a second ed book.

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>>96436398
Soon

>>96437717
Oh hm, that sounds kind of boring? As far as giving everything generic decks. Shoot. I was kind of interested in embergard simply because I already play skaven. Hm, I found harrowdeep for $40 and that sounds like a good time. Just when I wanted to pick something up from GW, they're pulling typical GW moves and ruining all previous compatibility..

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>>96437795
If you can find old shit cheap I'd say it's worth getting into "1st edition" otherwise Harrowdeep ain't worth the investment since you can just buy the teams on their own cheaper and not having a bunch of crap to throw away. I got in around Direchasm so I had a chance to pick up a bit of everything. I dunno, tabletop sim has all the old stuff floating around too if you wanna give it a college try. I genuinely love the game, and got 3 of my friends to enjoy it too, but Embergard left a real bitter taste in my mouth.

( 'll also say, It is slightly cross compatible, the game plays borderline the exact same between both editions which fucking kills me)

>>96437814
So theoretically, if I still pick up Embergard now, am I able to pick up older warbands? Did they release new cards for them? I love the Crimson Court since I also have some vampire counts.

I was thinking, Embergard, Crimson court warband, lizardmen warband, just to have some variety for players

>>96437839
No new cards, every old team is technically "playable" only a few actually got updated rules (the ones in the re-release boxes I believe got revamped rules) though certain teams didn't and just got order rules, so if GW didn't care enough about an old warband they get a generic ruleset to use on top of a generic deck.

But if you get Embergard, you just need the old models nothing else since all the rules are online and you just need the rivals decks which come with Embergard anyways.

>>96437724
like the sea drukhari or Atlantean elves.

>>96437874
I am simultaneously very thankful for your thoughts and posts anon, and highly disappointed in GW's decision making skills

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I wonder if GW will drop the dantes inferno sthick night haunt have and opt in to angels and more bibliographic designs.
Either way I want GW to make a giant dooting skeletonman.

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>>96437884
I'm trying my best to relay the information in the least shitty way possible despite still being pretty salty. The game itself is fun, Embergard is perfectly fine, it's just more underworlds. I think the old rivals decks and warbands were great but since GW are also cunts they're hard to get, I spent weeks last year trying to find Snarlfangs wolfpack for a reasonable price only to land on some fucking random RC parts shop in Arizona who happened to ship out a copy that was for some reason marked on the website.

My biggest gripe is their way of being like "Oh we'll get new people in" is saying "all the old toys don't work anymore, get fucked." Which if you're brand new is fine, kinda...? Also the new version they replaced all the art (which like, it's not like all the art was super amazing but there was some fun stuff) with just fancy pictures of the minis just posed around fancy. I'll say, give it a shot it is a very fun game despite all the bitching I'm doing, if you can I'd say try to hunt down the older shit too but that's a journey in and of itself.

>>96437702
Yeah, Wight kings in aos have been established as independent entities for a long while now. 2/3e talked about how many of their proud kingdoms were having to lower themselves by allying with vampires because OBR were breathing down their necks looking for bone harvests and there’s strength in numbers. I know that sort of undermines saying they’ve been established as powerful and independent, but it’s positioned as an alliance they’re choosing to make and that they can’t really be compelled into.

Even beyond that it’s a thing in aos that experienced necromancers can raise Wight kings, but they can never control them, and often had to bargain to get them to help out

>>96437903
So for now, since I found a decent deal ($55?) for Embergard, I'll be picking that up. Might do the Jaws of Itzl as well just because I love the models. Same goes for the Crimson Court but I might put that off until later. Thanks again anon

>>96437971
I don't think it undermines them being powerful and independent, it's just the reality of politics

>>96437997
Shit that's a steal, hope you have fun anon. It's a neat little spinoff game.

>>96438008
I'll be back eventually and post my warbands. I'm in the middle of a move to another country, so I won't be able to paint for at least 3 months while my stuff ships across the ocean though : (

>>96437899
I don't see a conection between current NH and Dante

>>96438033
Could get a 7 deadly sins thing going considering the whole ironic punishment thing Nagash has with NH.

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What exactly are Tree-Revenants? Are they proper ghosty ghosts who lack a degree of autonomy, or are they fully aware elves in a weird magical state?

>>96438312
They’re trees like every other sylvaneth is, the blue part is just fleshy pulp and they resemble aelves purely because of their relation to alarielle. They’re made of all the same stuff that a kurnoth hunter is on the inside, and born from soul-pods in the same way a dryad or treelord is.

They’re weirdly more uncanny to other races than something like a branchwych or kurnoth hunter because they look superficially like an aelf, and yet don’t breathe and all their features are just plant-based facsimiles of flesh.

>>96438312
fully aware tree-people that, out of reverence and tradition, choose to take on the aspect of the mythical elven protectors of the forest and that may or may not actually have an ancient elven soul in their lamentiri

>>96438403
>>96438407
Oooh, interesting. That raises the question then, do Sylvaneth as a whole have full autonomy, or is there some sort of forest hivemind going on?

>>96438435
They're autonomous AND have a constant treesong going on that essentially gives them to a lesser extent a collective wholeness and a way to share information that inevitably makes them somewhat alien to other normal races.
The song doesn't seem to extend from one realm to another, so it hurts them emotionally greatly to be isolated from ghyran since many of them are there.
It doesn't seem like they lose a sense of identity despite having that, so don't take it as a hive mind in the more extreme sense, more like a echo chamber on the internet, I guess?

>>96436735
The spearhead rules are in the battletome. Spearhead does not have a box for every set of rules, you aren't getting one. It's a supplement not a core book spearhead, for the diehards who will collect units individually for it

>>96438542
Is this (plus gitmob) the first time they've done this, bring out official rules without a boxset? Not counting any white dwarf semi-legal stuff.

>>96438547
For Spearhead, yes. Battalions, RoR, etc no.

how fast can khadrons go with those balloons

>>96438578
12" for personnel, 14" for gunhaulers, 10" for large ships.

>>96438602
>12"
so im guessing pretty darn fast?

>>96438612
Quite.

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Played a couple of games yesterday, surprised me how awful the new rules are for bruiser armies. I can see how S2D and Ironjaws are suffering so much rn.

>>96438312
Imagin peeling a banana. revenant is that with a tree

>>96437702
All the way back in 1st you vile fucking no lore reading cunt.

>>96438632
>Daisy-chaining knights
Inbred dickhead

>>96438454
Yeah the spirit song directly from alarielle is everywhere in ghyran, while in other realms they have to carry it through realm-roots connecting them back to ghyran and then having each glade basically act as a radio tower that broadcasts it from there for other sylvaneth to hear. It's like an emotional-informational link they commune with and are affected by

>>96438684
the chaos knight conga line stops for no grot

>>96437710
The first row are rules for WHFB armies to be used in AoS.

>>96437699
>Does anyone play underworlds?
I've started playing Embergard recently and I'm really enjoying it. I'm actually painting up Grandfather's Gardeners today!
At first I thought I wouldn't be into it because of the lack of unique decks and everyone making use of the same generic cards but I actually think it's more fun than old Underworlds. It's quick, it's enjoyable and the warbands feel unique enough due to their ability card.
I legit can't wait for the next box since I adore Kurnothi and Chorfs lol

>>96438632
Pretty cool looking game anon, are you the gitz player ? How do they feel this edition? Looking to maybe get into them via spearhead soon.
>>96438717
Yeah, stuff like kurt helborg and bretonnia and whatever

>>96438542
>some factions get two Spearhead boxes
>some factions get zero
James making some strange decisions

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whenever I go ebay hunting all I ever see are these plastic commemorative miniatures that I've never fucking heard of before

when do these get made and where are they sold?

>>96438971
They typically only get sold at events or at official GW stores at random times (Do YOU know the official anniversary state of your local GW store?) which is why most people only ever encounter them in places like Ebay.

>>96438971
Events, story anniversaries, stuff like that.

>>96438937
logical decisions based on warehouse inventory

Guys, would you recommend a single edge clippers like godhand/dspiae/redgrass etc. for warhammer? I heard that they are too delicate for thickness of warhammer sprues and could break so I would like to hear opinions of people who actually used them.

The 4th edition PDFs Battletome of Kharadron, Khorne Flesh-Eater, Naighaunt, and Hellsmits of Hasuth aren't out yet?

>>96439074
Noone has scanned any of those yet, no. The Hellsmiths tome isnt even out full stop yet

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Fuck this series is badly written and boring. AoS writing peaked in 2nd edition.

>>96439140
The concept was interesting but they do nothing with it. There's no combatting the affliction of the Shudderblight Curse over time for the Ghyra Crusade, it's just a series of random battles without a throughline

>>96439140
nothing interesting or really lastingly relevant happens until like The Long Hunt, halfway through, then it starts to get kind of good and do some interesting things. The last two or whatever are the best of them and almost reach the level of broken realms

>>96439161
its fucking insane it takes them two books to actually launch the crusades the whole series is about, and the books before it don't matter at all

>>96439171
What's insane is that they try to pretend there's any real story where it's just
>lets make an episode about the latest random models to be released
They barely try to give a reason why things happen

>>96436735
>>96438542
I just checked and the old spearhead with the blood knights and stuff is not there anymore on the gw webstore. Decent chance we're getting the new one after all imo

Link to the novel Bad Loon Rising please.

>>96439140
I'll be honest, I never get books for GW games anymore cause of the three year cycle, so I don't even know what the Dawnbringers series was supposed to provide. Are they mostly written to provide story, new profiles, competitive scenarios, narrative scenarios? I know any rules in them are now out of date, but I may hunt down a pdf just to read if they're actually narratively interesting.

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>>96438758
I was the slaves player, tho i'll say they seem decent. Their damage isn't crazy, but their mobility and recursion is strong. Definitely a fun faction to play.

>>96438684

What's the problem with screening?

>>96439414
Ah sorry, thanks for the info anyway. Your bases look great, whole army looking good. Also fuck me me morghast are fucking enormous.

>>96439364
> Are they mostly written to provide story,
Yes
>new profiles
Yes
>competitive scenarios
No
>Narrative Scenarios
Yes

Dawnbringers in particular, in addition to story and new unit profiles had the gimmick of each book containing several Armies of Renown/Regiments of Renown which I think technically are all still considered tournament legal in 4E. Not that anyone would still play them from a power perspective.

As for the story stuff in general...they're not very well written, usually, but it's the most story movement we ever get from GW so they're kinda fun to read in that sense. Each Narrative Campaign basically wraps up the current edition storyline and sets up the start of the next edition.

They really did nothing for nova huh

>>96436398
>TQ
AoS lore and settings kind of suck, so I've been making up my own headcannon.
The bullet points are:
> During the End Times, those who absorbed specific winds of magic to become Incarnates were able to use their powers to create small pocket realms, similar to the Mortal Realms.
> When Chaos proved impossible to defeat, most factions fled into these pocket realms, sealing the entrances behind them and making it impossible for Chaos to invade.
> Archaon quickly learned how difficult it was to rule the world he had conquered. Once the world was brought to heel, his generals immediately began infighting—some over spoils, some over devotion to their patron gods, and some tricked by Be’lakor’s schemes.
> As a result, those sworn to specific gods splintered off to form their own factions (DoT, BoK, MoN, HoS). Archaon remained mighty enough to fend off aspiring champions, but not strong enough to reclaim the unified armies he once commanded during the End Times.
pt. 1

>>96440243
> Those who failed to escape were either killed, enslaved to Chaos, or suffered far worse fates.
> The refugees who reached the pocket realms eventually created portals to travel between them.
> All Order factions emerged as a result of survivors adapting to the environments of their realms; the same was true for Destruction.
> Death remained centered in Shyish and the remnants of the Old World. Nagash cared little for chaos corruption—his only focus was collecting souls and raising the dead to power his armies. When vampires and spirits proved insufficient, he created the Ossiarch Bonereapers. Flesh-eater Courts arose from survivors who joined Ushoran’s lords, their minds warped by delusions of grandeur and false nobility.
> Over time, the Incarnates began opening temporary tears into the Old World for scouting purposes.
> Sigmar first sent human scouts, but they were quickly overcome by the overwhelming corruption of Chaos. This failure drove him to create the Stormcast Eternals—warriors who, even if slain, could return through reforging to deliver their reports.
> Both Gotrek and Felix ventured into the Realm of Chaos together, at the end of their story. No one survived to tell their tale, but some legends claim that a duo of a Slayer and Human appearing out of nowhere, slaying an powerful foe before disappearing
pt. 2

Any criticism is welcome

>>96439161
>The concept was interesting but they do nothing with it
That's AoS setting in general.

>>96440243
>>96440255
This is both pointless and badly thought out, seemingly just to get back at archaon(?)

I don't think you even know what aos' lore entails

>>96439359
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>>96437698
dreadblades are 100% getting squatted as soon as they make new hex, its an inevitability.

>>96440431
they look so good but they're such a weird kit from a production standpoint probably. If glaivewraiths weren't safe I don't think dreadblades are very secure either. My copium is a hexwraith/dreadbalde dual kit

>>96440534
I still dont know if glaives were a mainline or underworlds thing

>>96440579
Both. They were a mainline kit that was later converted into an Underworlds Warband. Soul Wars era Stormcast had multiple similar undersized units that were just straight sold at retail for like $15 at the start of 2E.

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Todays preview is all 40k shit.
However it does look like the new white dwarf will be centered on aos' 10 years of existence.

>>96440641
yeah, probably the first time I buy a white dwarf.

>>96440641
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/b2ijmqp4/sunday-preview-knights-ravens-and-robots/

>Warhammer 40,000 isn’t left out, and there is a section on the Leagues of Votann, with new missions for the Space Marine Operations mini-game.
Oh thank god, for a microsecond I was starting to feel like 40k was being snubbed this week.

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My first ever mini what do u think? some tips or sugestions would be nice

>>96440534
It's so weird that theyy squatted them. They were a pretty unique kit that kinda broke away from the bedsheet ghost look with the addition of horse skulls. But GW loves to treat us like they're MTG cycling through card editions every year. They seem to forget that plastic minis are a durable hobby that you can't just keep swapping out available models in a 5 year cycle unless you're specifically upgrading them. I do wonder what the mindset is behind making some kits only available for a short time

Army for this feel?
https://youtu.be/3nLrkkl6mtU?si=TKEuOCZ6IHnXNdzp

>>96440709
Looks good for your first try. Looks like you went for an older, darker metal. You seem to have decent brush control since you stayed in the lines pretty well. My main suggestion at this point would be shades an highlights. The red cloth in particular looks real flat and could do with a wash and some brighter red at the edges. For the metal I'd just drybrush the edges to make some contrast and indicate where places might face more wear.

>>96440641
Still no chorf army set :( Hopefully next week, since that would mean the army set is at least out during September, but not holding my breath for it at this point

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>>96440641
>>96440641
>AOS 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY
>its a battle report, and a short story
>rest is 40k and heresy
Oh c-cool. Thanks....

>>96440431
I hate that you're probably right. There's no justification for squatting anything released in AoS's life when nearly every army has the same problem of anemic rosters.

>>96440785
Fantasy and 40k had some models that were 30 years old before they went away, and even then it was only because GW FINALLY decided to update them. This trend of just taking models away is a newish one that's really only been the practice for maybe the last decade. At least as far as I'm aware. It's fucking ridiculous that some models will only be available for a couple of years, and then get pulled from the store and squatted out of the rules and lore.
Hell I think it's even a uniquely AOS problem because I don't see a bunch of shit in 40k being squatted a few years after release. Even though there's definitely a few Space Marine kits I'd love to see binned and forgotten about.

>>96440828
40K still has a number of models that are quite old, ever since the Eldar got refreshed I think either the Land Raider or Rhino model are the oldest models GW sells (not including reissues of metal stuff in TOW) AoS randomly squatting models is quite a strange decision, at the very least keep them in the book if they aren’t being sold (like what 40K has done for a number of models, though less so with recent codex’s)

>>96440828
Thinking about that one ancient Blood Angels character who somehow managed to have not just one but two datasheets all the way into fucking 9th edition

>>96437698
lack of effort put into rules through multiple tomes is usually a death knell for models. All those warcry, wierd unit size or ETB kits are like living on short borrowed time.

absolutely crazy the prices GW asks when they've pretty much squatted the majority of the 2e starter box at this point. I already don't buy NIB from retailers unless I play at their shop, and this edition firmly cemented that decision.

>>96440743
The box has shipped to people already, which usually signals a release in the next 5-6 weeks, so they will be released in september for sure.

>>96440641
Preview mentioned a glimpse at the future, so maybe a road map as well

My best guesses
Coming soon (Winter)
>Nurgle (big release)
>Slaaneesh
>Seraphon
>DoK
Future (q2)
>Ogors (big release)
>LRL
>Sons

>>96440944
I suspect Chorfs will be next week, they'll go up after the contest results are announced but soon enough for a mid September release.

Plus we just had 40K and TOW, so swinging back to AoS makes sense.

>>96440944
I subscribe to the theory that seraphon will only get some attention later on in the edition, and that's why they randomly got a spearhead not long ago, along with cos ogres and obr

>>96440944
I hope so, but why I'm currently iffy about it is that even if they get previewed for next week's Sunday is that they will barely scrape by for a September release, unless for some reason the wait time between pre-order to full release is shortened to 1 week. Oh well, nothing to do but to wait and see

>>96441012
Agree with this, those are the four armies we'll probably not see for a while.

Now if you filter them out, what's left is:
DoK
Sylvaneth
LRL
Fyreslayers
SoB
Nurgle
Slaanesh
Tzeentch

8 armies is less than they'll realistically release in a year, especially if they skip Fyreslayers for now, so we could potentially see all or most of these on a roadmap.

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>>96440753
GRIM
A two realm battle report is kino though, I remember playing those in 1e with malign portents or something

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Fucking when

Mosscairn......

>>96441124
WHEN THEY FUCKING FEEL LIKE IT JACKASS

>>96441040
Self reply, but I did just notice that they put "With our retrospective on Warhammer Age of Sigmar over, we’ll be catching a glimpse of the future and what the Helsmiths of Hashut have in store for us." at the very end of the Sunday preview. Makes it at least a good amount more likely that we'll get them on the next Sunday preview!

>>96441096
We did a game between two realms at our lgs once where you had to travel through realm gates in order to travel to another table. We had 3 tables, one ghyran, one shish, one aqshy running their realm rules each with 6 realmgates laid out on the board edge. Each player pulled a number out of a hat to decide which table they were deployed at and which table had the objective they needed to capture and bring back to their deployment zone. When going through a realmgate you'd roll a d3 to decide which table a unit was traveling to, and a d6 to decide the realm gate you'd pop out of. We played with 6 players and it was psychotic but so funny. People were running back and forth between tables and it took us like 14 hours but was so much fun.

Anyone got a link to the audiobooks of Covens of Blood or Beastgrave? Neither of them are on audiobookbay or they aren't seeded :(

>>96441197
yeah there was a bit of talk about that, the prevailing opinion here is that they might show off a new preview. Chorfs are probably coming mid september.

is Awlrach the Drowner not showing up for anyone else on GW's webstore?

>>96441529
Yep.

>>96441331
I have Covens on audible, I'll look into converting that to MP3 but I'm unfamiliar with the process

>>96441529
it does but trying to add it to cart from the american store seems to cause some weird error. switching to australia, it seems its still available.

>>96440944
>absolutely crazy the prices GW asks when they've pretty much squatted the majority of the 2e starter box at this point. I already don't buy NIB from retailers unless I play at their shop, and this edition firmly cemented that decision.


It's so fucking annoying, they're perfectly fine models. Just make them more elite cavalry, up the cost, fuckin great swell fantastic. I don't think most AoS factions have the unit variety and depth to just randomly squat shit when I imagine the mold still works perfectly fucking fine.

Them squatting glaivewraiths as much as I find it a bit funny is fucking stupid, the models are perfectly fine just come up with any kind of rules and bump their stats so they don't suck. NH already has like 3 fucking units that have been for their existence the exact same, scythe ghosts, scythe hand ghosts, and sword ghosts have all basically done the exact same shit with slightly different dice variables and yet Glaivewraiths don't get anything and get squatted.

So what, Myrnmournes can stick around because back in the day we had one god damn rule of them having a thing so we can reprint that endlessly without needing to think so they're fucking fine?

>>96441663
Glaivewraiths are just a little bloated I guess, and they stand out as horse skulls next to everything else have a human head I guess? I'm proxying them so i don't mind

>>96441529
If I search via google I can get there, but when adding it to the cart it causes the website to freak out. On the webstore itself it doesn't show up at all. Something's kind of fucked up.

>>96441678
I keep saying if you gave them long bases you could just call them hexwraiths and call it a day.

>>96438758
>>96438684
Duality of AoS posters

>>96441703
>guy who doesn't even own the game
>guy who does
yup. not either poster, but I can see why he complained about the knights, it's silly to have them face sideways to be a better screen when they logically should be facing forwards and taking up less horizontal board space.

>>96441725
that's what I was gonna say, had that happen in a game recently and it felt pretty lame. I get why it's done obviously but it looks silly and I dislike it even if it's a perfectly viable strat.

>>96441331
>Covens
https://files dot fm/u/b5mhhsapx6
Does this work?

>>96441725
Just a side effect of round bases. While models are facing to the side, you could still technically imagine them looking towards the enemy.
Wouldn't be a thing WFB, since there were disadvantages for being attacked in the side/back

>>96441749
OMG thank you anon <3 made this poorfag very happy.

>>96441760
Is there a way to make directional damage doable on rounds/ovals without being obnoxious to measure

>>96441932
Might have to check how 40k and 30k have done it in the past

>>96441663
>why dont they do this?
>why don't they do that?
They don't care dude, you think the game is some collective community were all supposed to enjoy and enrich our lives with. Its not, its just a crass vehicle to exploit the people who've foolishly allowed themselves to become invested in it. Enjoy your latest price hike.

>>96441529
Their store falls apart at least twice a month these days, I just use Google to find the link to the store page cause on my mobile it'll only let me type in so many words into their search before it deletes it all halfway through

>>96441760
>Just a side effect of round bases
No, it's a side effect of being a dick who insults his opponent's decency.

>>96440753
At least there is any Old World

>>96442003
at least there isn't any Old World*

>>96441973
I'd say why are you in the thread then if you're saying this but clearly you've got a pile of GW plastic sitting somewhere nearby.

>>96440641
Also Slop of The Rings.
Does ANYONE play it?

>>96442191
They don't have to, GW wants to hold the IP rights but afaik it actually does well enough

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>>96442191
>Does ANYONE play it?
Yes.

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>>96442191
>Does ANYONE play it?
Yes, Part 2.

>>96441948
I assumed over there they kind of get away with it because it's all on blocky vehicles and stuff where the sides are quite easy to determine.

>>96442210
>GW wants to hold the IP rights
Does it need to as of now? GW grew massively, Warhammer as game is almost untouchable even when competitors tried to use star wars, or game of thrones.

>>96442267
It's cuz if they let go of the rights someone else will make a better wargame

>>96441932
In proto aos, you'd have to measure weapon range from the weapon on the actual model.
>>96441996
I can think of worse ways of insulting the opponent.

>>96442284
As if warhammer players play warhammer because it's a good game!

>>96442267
A new LoTR wargame is a risk to shelf space be it fleeting or long term. GW are in the business of monopolising stores now. Warcry, Underworlds, titanicus, whatever just exist to push other games off shelves or stop customers from experimenting outside of GW.
Remember Aeronautica? That was made just to stop players from looking into X-Wing.

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>Old Empire ignored skaven presence and pretended like they weren't real until it was too late
>New Cities become actively paranoid at the first sound of gnawing
>Both get rat-nuked anyways
At least with the CoS it's a little reasonable seeing as most cities are little shitvillages with like 2 wizards in town

>>96442372
I guess it's a bit harder to pretend skaven don't exist when they just chernobyl half of the continent you live on

>>96442030
if we were smart we'd all switch a newer system that was still original creator owned that still retains its soul, made by people who still care about games like trench crusade, conflikt 47, conquest.

>>96442509
I mean, I enjoy the hobby aspect more than the game part. And GW can produce some really fucking cool models.

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>>96442509
Why not just modify the game to your liking at that point then trying something new

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Mid thread question
GW commission's you with the task to come up with a huge centrepiece model something in the 500-100 points range maybe even a god in lore, for your favourite faction.
What's it general design and maybe some fun abilities

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So... wtf is she?
Is Zenestra a minor death god? A saint? A mage fooling everyone? I don't really get it honestly.

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>>96442567
The giant fucking whale seen in the old idoneth art. Sidenote every other battletome cover mogs the new one so hard it's not even funny.
>>96442575
I think she's like the last follower of an ancient shyishian cinder god or something? But also seems to genuinely believe in sigmar? Idk somebody else probably knows more than me.

>>96442595
>Idk somebody else probably knows more than me.
Nah man I read all the Dawnbringers shit and I still don't get it lmao

>>96442575
I think she inherited the essence of a god like Krethusa; the Cinder God, an Aqshy death god.
That'd explain why she has a history as a human.

>>96442509
>made by people who still care about games like trench crusade
lel

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>>96442567
Well since FEC already got big Ush, I would really love if we got his "tower" or "castle" which is just a giant overgrown monstrous ghoul, muscles so big they're tearing through his skin, mouth with jagged teeth with just whole bodies kinda stuck in. Maybe a few banner ghouls or people manning the fortress. Kinda like those things from Elden ring but instead of rock it's just a giant malformed monstrous ghoul.

I like to imagine he was once Ushoran's servant who was told to maintain his keep, while he was gone he kept getting worse and worse, eating, drinking, just getting positively fucking massive. When Ushorann finally returned to his castle he called to his servant only to have the manor or castle he lives in begin to shake at the foundation as his servant rose up ready to serve.

>>96442595
She clearly doesn't believe in Sigmar, her cult has their mortality deplete like it's burning away which isn't a Sigmar thing.
She just co-opts the cults Umberogen. Worth noting Dawnbringers features the Hammerhal cults being purged due to corruption, conveniently when Zenestra is off crusading

>>96442595
man I love the Idoneth art from when they first came out

but boy do I still not understand if they're swimming or flying

>>96442643
swimming in magic fake water

>>96442567
Mage-knight on gargoylian dragon backed by a pack of goyles. Pose is them cresting over a shattered city wall in a countercharge

>>96442614
well I assume thats the one I know much less about.

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>>96437699
Harrowdeep is an ok start. V1 is better in my opinion than V2 (aka Embergard). The diferences is that in V1 each fighter has a warrior card with special abilities&inspire conditions (some warbands are really basic tho, with not much variance between fighters) and each warband has a default deck aka Rivals deck (this started at the end of Nightvault, or perhaps on beastgrave, as the ones before didn't had a full deck and you needed to add generics to make it legal)(those decks are very flavorful to each warband, showing what they are all about too) you could also use a rivals deck with the warband too. As for V2 each warband has a Warscroll with about 4 abilities and an universal inspire condition, the warbands don't have specific decks and you actually have to pick a "universal" rivals deck to play (the starter box has 4 while all the solo warband box doesn't have a deck but you can also buy separated decks)
>>96437717
>>96437903
>Everything pre "current edition" other than the models is basically non compatible,
Look for the underworlds vassal community on discord. The guys there are doing rivals decks for the new warbands as to be compatible with v1.
>>96437795
If you want to play Skaven in underworlds you can pick the nethermaze expansion box (Skaven assassins Vs Aelven assassins) or pick one of the 2 skaven warband boxes (one from nightvault or the one in Wyrdhollow = Skabbik's Plaguepack )(but you still need a big box for the maps)
Harrowdeep is an ok starter, the warbands are not overpowered and are actually beginner friendly.
>>96437839
If you go for V2 (embergard) you can buy the embergard starter then one of the 4 reprint bands boxes (death for crimson court, you can sell the rest)

>>96442635
>Priest who does sigmar prayermagic
>Doesn't believe in sigmar
Ok dumbass

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>>96442690
>Look for the underworlds vassal community on discord. The guys there are doing rivals decks for the new warbands as to be compatible with v1.

Yeah I heard rumblings of that, glad to see the dislike of v2 is pretty universal. Might wind up looking into to because I wouldn't mind some new warbands to add to my stuff. I remember a lot of cope early on while we were in that inbetween period for a refresh. I feel completely vindicated because when they announced "all warbands playable" I had this little thought in the back of my head that there's no fucking way they'd do it right.

And I was right, Eyes of the nine, Morgweaths blade coven and Ironskullz boys are still fucking hot shit. Imagine hyping up and having the ability to do a fresh start and you still make several warbands just hot shit for no reason.

>>96442726
Ate they prayers to Sigmar or some death god?

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>>96442851
I dunno this seems very sigmarian

>>96442635
>>96442871
She’s a genuine believer in Sigmar and genuinely channels miracles using his power, she’s just also either all that’s left of the Cinder God or their last follower who’s got the last of their power inside her. The wheel cult religion is the religion of the cinder god, a philosophy on the meaning of life as a wheel that keeps on turning, but she’s adapted it to adopt Sigmar as its patron.

Sigmar is the reason the wheel turns, it’s him that’s allowed life to continue in the realms as it does, it’s him that’s returned civilization to the realms, and she’s genuinely greatful for that. Whether she’s a shriveled up god who worships another god, or a worshipper of a dead god who also venerates the god that’s allowed her old master’s ideas to continue to exist in some fashion, she is a sigmarite through and through. She fought in the realmgate wars to help found his vision, and fights now for all his faithful, even those outside her cult.

>>96443138
>a shriveled up god worshipping another god
Cool concept honestly. Wonder what siggy thinks of ulric by now, or the elven gods of their old pantheon.

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Are we fresh out of rumors?

>>96443188
Worms

>>96443188
Been a while since we had some new stuff from reliable sources. If I recall the current rumours are :
-nurgle around christmas, pestigors and maybe some other refreshes (plaguebearers?)
-CoS getting 'some love', even older rumours mentioned cogforts
-something eshin?
-ascended khul but like way later down the line
-globb glittermaw (named ogre overtyrant), possibly accompanied by ogre refresh (that's a bit more dubious)
-tempests' eye getting blown up
Unless I missed something these are the major ones atm

>>96443248
>tempests' eye getting blown up
Why can't we have an event where a big good thing blows up an evil bad thing and everybody claps

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>>96443280
>Why can't we have an event where a big good thing blows up an evil bad thing and everybody claps

>>96443256

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>>96443307
damn I got owned

>>96443280
Kroak putting kagnos in the eternal cuckshed comes pretty close

>>96443307
>implying anything good happens in 40k ever

>>96443389
Nothing ever happens

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>tfw my fuckhueg base won't be here anytime soon

I just wanna base my Slaughtermaster.

I need this fatfuck ready for a Path to Glory I know will never happen.

>>96443538
>pic
I mean... maybe...

>>96443280
But Nagash isn't allowed to blow up the evil bad guy :(

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Someone in my local area sent me a pic of the used GW box, saw that fuckers shitty slaanesh army there still. Laziest fuckin paintjob i've seen.

>>96443175
I think it’s the story Pantheon that has Sigmar end up praying to ulric, though it’s less an actual prayer of worship in the traditional sense and more a “I dunno how you did it, buddy, this job is hard” kind of thing

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>>96443389
>bro wants to ignore everything from 8th edition onward

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>>96443640
Imagine being a fucking GOD and so incapable you're asking other gods for help. Sigmar is almost as bad as the Emperor from 40k but at least he isn't constantly kneecapping himself for his ebin sekrit speshul plan

>>96443638
I actually really dig how it looks even if yes it is the laziest colour scheme imaginable
>>96443664
To be fair to siggy he started out as some ooga booga knuckledragging barbarian warlord, being the incarnate of heaven and last bulwark of order against the forces of eternal-evil-mega-torture is probably not what he signed up for when he started beating up some orcs way back when.

>>96443682
As much as I love to dunk on him I think that's what makes him so appealing compared to the Emperor. He may be a god but he's still as human as he was when he was mortal, dealing with multiple threats and tons of people praying to him for things from "please sigmar help me kill these daemon fuckers" to "please sigmar electrocute my nipples".

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>get first double
>win

>>96443701
Sigmar and the Emperor basically opposites. One is a mortal with godhood thrust upon him and the other is a physical god aping mortality.

>>96442567
Malekith.
Pretty much use the image shown but add some fins for wind resistance and add a sharp looking racing stripe

>>96440394
Thanks for link

>>96442372
I never understood why the Empire always turned a blind eye to issues related to the Skaven.

>>96443973
They probably thought it'd spook civilians or something

>>96442567
Damn, most of my favorite factions already have their gods and/or big centerpiece monsters.
>Soulblight
Zombie gargant would be pretty cool. Especially if it came with options to Frankenstein some weird stuff to it, like hydra heads where the arms used to be or a dragon head in the hollowed out gut with a breath weapon. Put a howda on its shoulders and let be a big stompy Coven Throne with either one or several vampires on it
>Nighthaunt
A bigass walking furnace that burns the souls of the damned and the bodies of Nagash's enemies for fuel. Would be something like how the OBR fuse souls together to make their monsters but encased in iron, ever-ravenous, and shooting balefire everywhere
>Seraphon
Bring back the Dread Saurian with a new plastic model, with options to act as a Slann mount or have a big piece of Old One artillery on its back. Or a big Sauropod with the same thing.

>>96442575
Simply put, she is the leader of a cult that worships wheels as gods.

>>96443248
Can they stop blowing up the cities I like?
My mistake for liking Anvilguard and Tempest's Eye, what's next to blow up? Living City?

>>96443973
It always seemed silly to me given Skaven weren't really that subtle (except Eshin).

>>96443973
The only thing I can think of is that the Skaven would bribe or threaten political or high-status figures to keep their existence hidden within the Empire.

>>96443973
Because acknowledging that an essentially infinite amount of man-sized rat-beasts are beneath every inch of the world aside from Ulthuan would undermine Imperial authority and cause widespread panic.

Imagine your government saying "yeah we have malicious man-sized rat monsters living under every city and we can't really stop it."

>>96444046
Now we have infinite man-sized rat-beasts telefragging every city and they can't really stop it

>>96444091
At least now they recognize its existence, right?

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Any suggestions on something I might add to this base before I prime it? It's meant to be a pretty well kept vampire castle interior. She's dumping blood out of chalice onto the floor.

>>96444218
A rug or decorated tile I reckon

>>96444218
CUM CHALICE

how important are Places of Power in most games?

>>96444225
I suppose I could make a small rectangle out of greenstuff and slap it in front of her.
>>96444230
She's not hot enough for the cum chalice

>>96444225
>decorated tile
Meaning what exactly?

>>96444290
mosaic

>>96444218
if you have any stencils handy, you could pattern the floor. Otherwise I would just try to get the floor looking as bright white as possible before adding blood splatter for a nice sharp contrast.

>>96444392
If I had the means to do it I'd make it marble, but I'll make it a bright grey stone probably.

>>96444410
Air brush and some dryer sheets will do just fine, anon.

>>96444416
I said if I had the means. The air brush would be the means.

>>96442225
I dunno why, but this excites me more than a 2k AoS game.

>>96444848
>Skirmish style game at the proper size
As it should be…..

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WHEN?!
When are these fuckers coming out, I need them :(

>>96445016
Next week. I’m waiting for underworlds myself.

>>96445024
I am, sadly, going to CONSUME like fuck in the next few weeks. I want the Chorfs, and I adore Kurnothi so I also want the new Underworlds box set and I also want to get the new Sand and Bone box for Spearhead.
Be an expensive month or so.

>>96445038
I've kinda hit critical mass after getting the deathrattle box and found 20 extra barrowguard for 40 bucks so I've got a fuck ton of skellies to work on.

>>96445089
All this stuff is coming out right as I finished my Maggotkin daemon army so for once I'm mostly free to start a new project. It was ordained lol

>>96445089
>>96445105
Tell me about it.
>new gitz wolves finally holy fuck
>They're a gorillion dollars
>new skellies and crazy sick zombie dragon
Help. My wallet keeps claiming I'm being too rough with her, but surely she's just being dramatic

>>96443797
>10 years of crying
House rule it or play a different game faggot

>>96443280
tbf it was bad news for mortgage cities in the rumour too. It just doesn't matter anymore when the rules are disconnected from the fluff with battle formations as abstract groups

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Full Hobgrot army WHEN

>>96443797
>The most telegraphed mechanic in the game
>People still lose because of it
Skill issue.
Either build around defending against a double or just roll 6's

>>96445394
Never, chorfs might get a ranged unit but they'll look different
What a blunder

>>96445394
Who's stopping you ?

Just gobz (1960 points) - General's Handbook 2025-26

Kruleboyz
Auxiliaries: 0
Drops: 4

Battle Tactic Cards - Wrathful Cycles, Scouting Force
Manifestation Lore - Manifestations of Gorkamorka
Spell Lore - Lore of the Swamp

General's Regiment
Hobgrot Slittaboss (70)
• General
• Swamp Staff
• Egomaniak
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer

Regiment 1
Hobgrot Slittaboss (70)
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer

Regiment 2
Hobgrot Slittaboss (70)
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer
Hobgrot Slittaz (160)
• Reinforced
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer

Regiment 3
Hobgrot Slittaboss (70)
Hobgrot Slittaz (80)
• 1x Champion
• 1x Musician
• 1x Standard Bearer

Faction Terrain
Skaregob Totem

>>96445417
will that fit on a table

>>96445427
Probably not, but you'll definitely surprise the opponent

>>96445394
hopefully never, the hobgrots in kruleboys were thought to be a necessary evil because they would logically double as a chorf unit, but no, gw needed to make a second faggot unit of hobgobs with the same role
and now they're pretending they fit in warclans
disgusting

>>96445394
Run Hobgrots with sloggoths tbhon

>>96445427
400 hobgrotz is not THAT much

Camels wouldnt be out of place in hedonists right? At least compared to the other 3 chaos deity legions.

>>96445585
They would look out of place since the army doesn't otherwise have normal steeds or animals anywhere

You gotta make them freaky camels

>>96445606
camels but with boobs on their backs.

>>96445645
That's the low hanging fruit, but they would be gravity defying boobs, making them not look like boobs at all in the end

Maybe it's better to stick to a fiend-like head, clawed feet and various decorative chains and stuff on the beast

>>96445394
>Hobgrots
>Sloggoth
>Trogg fer hire RoR
>Converted Sludgerakers
This is going to be my army

Skimming through ars goetia and I really gotta wonder why gw doesn’t just pick this up for reference for chaos stuff in Aos.

>>96445866
because original chaos was a ripoff of dnd demons, not anything deeper, while nowadays warhammer is so self referential its designs are showing symptoms of being pathological inbred.

>>96445876
moorcock

>>96445895
gw didn't steal demon's DESIGNS from moorcock
they took the background from there

Is Soulbound a good book to pick up just for exploring the lore of AoS? I don't play RPGs.

>>96445936
Soulbound is as non-canon as black library

>>96445936
It has quite a bit of fun tidbits about the day to day mundane stuff in the realms, which might be interesting for you.

>>96445952
so it's absolutely canon, good to know

>>96445963
just like kragnos' conversation skills

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Stormcast dreadnoughts soon

>>96446021
>Okay Sigmar, what do we do with lightning geists?
>Just put them in a big armored shell and let them go wild on chaos
Unironically would this work? Would disposable unit of geists work?

>>96445986
>just like kragnos
yes

>>96446027
They're the opposite of disposable, they're the tragic remains of dutiful soldiers sigmar has responsibilities and guilt over.

>>96446021
I just want the lightinggheists to be like that one depiction in the Aos app.

>>96446034
Anon, Sigmar has designated executioners who obliterate Stormcasts souls so they die a true death. Sigmar doesn't give a shit.

Why hasn't Anvilgard been addressed outside of Black Library which is a shit show

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Wd stuff on warcom

>>96440944
I've seen several mentions of a big Nurgle release now. Any idea of what it would include? My guess would be new plaguebearers.

>>96446071
Stormcast and Stormcast and Stormcast
Vs
Khorne, Nighthaunt, and Kruleboyz
yeah okay

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I don’t really pay attention to it much, but this art of the big man is so cool.

>>96446078
don't forget the skaven

>>96446076
Pestigors and probably plaguebearers yeah
>>96446091
Sigmar just throwing ghal maraz around like it's nothing will always be funny

>>96446071
Don't tell me they're representing khul with that prince model?

>>96446078
Portal clearly shows it's Stormcast 1v4-ing

>>96446076
nurgle release, not big nurgle release
and no sign of bearers, only gors

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gikf8db9/blood-bowl-returns-for-a-new-season-of-mayhem/

The Blood Bowl rumors were true, Bretts vs Tomb Kings this time. TK haven't changed much apparently, but Bretts are actually new and not just a copy of the Empire Nobles team from last edition.

>>96446076
Based on what? The Warband? Gloomspite have had warband new stabbas for like 7 years

>>96446514
Did it take anything off the rumor engine

>>96446514
The Empire Noble team was a copy of the Brettonian team from BB2

>>96446514
>Bloodbowl gets new plastics before TOW
GRIM

>>96445024
>>96445038
I bought the current one for the Crimson court and I'm buying the new one for Velmorn and, to a lesser extent, the zombies. I've spent close to $450 in August on models, paints, and supplies. Fuck I didn't realize I spent that much I thought it was closer to $250... I really need to speed up my painting because fuck me I'm developing a back log that my little WIP boxes are now struggling to contain.

>>96446542
TBF Blowblowl got new Saurus like a year before those awful old sculpts were finally replaced.

>>96446534
I'm aware. That's why it's notable that this Brettonian team is entirely new.

>>96446514
Oh also, there's a hint at the end that a new High Elf team is coming. Expected I guess, but hopefully they change them, they were always an incredibly boring team.

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I'm going to try playing the game for the first time, but i will be using just some Khorne models that i got when i was just collecting and painting, and i want to know if it's ok enough for a 1000pts game:
1x Mighty Lord of Khorne (General)
1x Bloodsecrator
10x Blood Warriors
3x Mighty Skullcrushers

1x Slaughterpriest
20x Bloodreavers

>>96446076
No idea, personally I don't think they need much, and I'd rather see something for Tzeentch mortals for a chaos release, but GW doesn't release models based on army needs, going off the Gitz release this year.

The pestigor rumor is based off them being in the animated series recently but not sure if it has any more weight than that.

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>>96446076
pesto, pity hero, spells

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>from the 6th of September you’ll be able to take to the skies with one of the newcomers to the Kharadron Overlords – the Vongrim Harpoon Crew.
Is there some way this can be saved via kitbashing?

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>>96446789
The pestigor rumor materialised on talks on tga.

>>96446809
It depends on whether it's that specific model or just one random model out of that kit
In any case swapping the head and hands can probably be more than enough to make a cooler model, and with enough spare trinkets it could be turned into a proxy for a kharadron hero

>>96446809
it looks good, there's nothing to fix. KO players have been asking for some unhelmeted heads for 10 years, and the new tactical garbage is a better solution than the flying pegs

>>96446839
BEARDED unhelmeted heads

So for nurgle Christmas release, I’m gonna guess pestigors, a pestigor foot hero, and spells. They’ll fill the chaff role in mortals lists, but not actually do much with it and turn out worse than just bringing plaguebearers

>>96446958
anon that kit comes with a stupid number of heads, no one is forcing you to do anything.

>>96446809
Swap the head with a helmet and maybe change out the gun if possible and call it a day. I like the idea of dwarf women units, but if all they're going to do is put a womans head on a mans body, it's not going to look good.

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>>96446958
KO have incorporated unbearded women in their ranks as far back as the second edition battletome at least.

and as a KO player myself, the more diversity in the model range the better

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>>96446809
reminder not to judge a female model by eavy metals paintjob. they make women deliberately ugly

>>96446809
On the plus side at least eavy metal managed to paint a face that looks like a woman.

>>96447056
According to Warhammer lore, their women do not have beards but long, bushy hair. Dwarf women with beards are a thing of Tolkien's dwarves.

>>96447056
>KO have incorporated unbearded women in their ranks as far back as the second edition battletome at least.
and nobody asked for that

I prefer kharadron helmeted either way desu.

>>96446958
then kitbash it with one of the hero heads then? Should be pretty easy to make a guy dwarf

>>96447242
a whole bunch of nomodels nogames revealing themselves here. the new vongrim salvagers kit comes with just shy of 20 heads per 5 models, enough to give every one of hte 5 models a bearded male head, or a helmeted male head, or all helmets mixed gender, no helmets mixed gender, or anything inbetween.

it even comes with enough that the entire squad can be women

>>96447259
I'm confused, are they giving away the entire harpoon crew kit or just the single model? The wording on the website is slightly confusing because they say "these miniatures" but also "free mini"

>War Cry getting a balance update on top of a new team
That’s a good thing right? Would be neat if they started with aping Kill Team with adding special upgrade sprues to pre-existing kits for boxes too

>>96447284
It means they have a new rules writer/project lead. God knows how the timeline for new releases looks if they stumbled for a year after the original guy left though

>>96445105
Look at this fuckin' guy, not having a bunch of unpainted minis. I am pretty happy though, I've gotten a big chunk of stuff done recently and if I can just keep having big chunks done as time goes on things will probably go pretty fast.

I've learned a valuable lesson though, save the coolest minis for last.

>>96447259
It comes with 18, not 20 and there are only 4 male helmets.

>>96447097
Jungle dwarf pussy?

>>96447386
He was talking about his head hair, but they are in a fantasy world, so a hairy clam is a common sight.

>>96447417
hell yeah.

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Question: Do Kharadron and Fyreslayers still care about their beards or can they just walk around clean-shaven?

>>96447474
kharadrons break the taboo out of practical necessity, but otherwise still value their facial hair
for fyrelslayers it's still an unforgivable hairesy

>>96447474
They're all shown with some length of beard so

>>96447474
KO seem to care less about beards. Not like 100% smoothchin but definitely groomed shorter

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A pestigor unit and hero would be kino but usually it's just an isolated unit before a real expansion, isn't it?
Lame, they could totally push out microfactions with so little

>>96447536
A beastman hero is something impossible at this point in AoS, perhaps in a future when they reintroduce it as a faction again.

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>>96447590
We must not lose faith, if the 40k space dwarves returned, why not the chaos furries?

>>96447582
I imagine they'll get reintroduced at some point, knowing GW. No clue how or when, but I can imagine it.

>>96447611
>if the 40k space dwarves
All we have to do is wait thirty years.

>>96447536
A generic hero like a shaman of the plague herd might be possible, but a hero like a Malagor of the plagues with fly wings is practically impossible.

>>96447645
not so much, only up to the 9th edition like the space dorfs

>>96447582
Tzangors are still in AoS, with their Tzangor Shaman as well. Pestigors could very well be the Nurgle equivalent, another workaround to have Beastmen in AoS. I think it’d be amusing if GW decided to let 40K have Pestigors too since they also have Tzangors and even Fellgors.

>>96447536
I hope that pestigors get reimagined into weird bug-goats

>>96447582
Yeah, it's not like we have statements to that effect or something

>>96447623
>beastmen are back in AoS
>No refreshes whatsoever. It's the exact same models as before plus one new hero, who's the resin kit model from ToW
>new base sizes for every unit, because fuck you
>Beastmen are immediately shafted into legends in ToW, because fuck you squared

>>96447826
It really is fucking dumb, did they ever even pretend there was a real reason to it?

>>96447826
TOW doesn't hold the same view towards squatting as mainstream types. If it has rules, fantastic. If it's available to buy direct, perfection.
Only 40k/AoS players put their collections in the cuck cage because GW mandates +0.0001% warehouse efficiency.

>>96447826
That will happen once recession hits again and GW will squat neo Forge World vanity projects like hh and tow

>>96447846
Morghur Gavespawn refresh down the line? Greenskinz and Gitmob left to before replacements arrived

>>96447582
Why did they remove them anyway? I know they're going to be put into Old World, but I don't see why they couldn't just print two rulesets for AoS and Old World and be done with it. I would understand if they were being pulled entirely because they weren't popular or something but this just seems like a bizarre choice.

>>96447826
I see that you are a big fan of those furry ones and it hurt you when they erased them from AoS and sent them to "it's not warhammer fantasy."

>>96447861
I mean it'd be neat but also kinda goofy to make a big fucking thing about it if you're just gonna bring them back a couple years later.

>>96447882
Something about wanting to be able to keep track of what system is popular so they only want models available for use in one game. How will they ever be able to tell if your buying beastmen for TOW or AOS. Nevermind the people who are buying a box for conversion bits. Who would do that?

There any Sigmar YouTubers who don’t flaunt their political shit? Surely there must be someone who isn’t Arch tier or a shitlib right? I’ll even take a GW shill at this point

>>96447930
pancreas no work is fine, but he's not explicitly sigmar.

They've been designing warhammer for 40 years and some brainlet at gw still somehow thought 2+ save KO boats with healing and AoD was going to be ok, in the same release cycle where a 4+ ethereal needed to be gutted btw.

>>96447930
Tom mentioned Trump indirectly like once in the last 12 years when he ass hurt about j6 on Vince's show and he shut him down.

>>96447930
2+ tough is pretty much the only one I usually check because he used to cover fluff from battletomes and campaign books relatively soon and without too much fanfare or forced memes.

>>96447945
The rules writers are barely better than minimum wage workers. They don't know what they're fucking doing and haven't for years.
GW needs to bring back blast plates, lots of magic variety, points costs for wargear and options on models, armor facing, etc.