Alright, Do you allow romance or no?

>>96485231
No

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First time DMing, using Foundry.
Are maps such as this too cramped for 5 level 2 players?

>>96485231
Romance doesn't belong in D&D.

>>96485485
Cramped rooms are fine. Then your melee dudes can plant their fat asses in front of the backline.

>>96485231
Always, in fact I encourage it.

>>9648549
Faggot

Would creating a table for items that the thief could get when stealing mid-combat with fast hands so it would become a sort of bread and butter for combat be a horrible idea? Would be like a cool little slot machine mini game. Could add some detrimental ones like too.

>>96485177
lmao always
>>96485231
lmao no
>>96485508
lmao retard

Oi, romance in the classical or modern sense?

>>96485231
You may seduce your fellow players at will.

>>96485599
That's gay as fuck

>>96485508
Leave the hobby you faggot fuck

i see the fucking OP is still owning you with satanic tarotic magic and no wonder why so many of you have trouble sleeping at night ! i tried a long time ago to put an end to this charade but the moderators put me out and OP brigaded my home address to keep my internet from working properly for months. well im back and im not going to let this one slide, not after what i know you did OP.

this is a satanic thread trying to impose itself in the dungeons and dragons universe, what OP is actually doing is performing a long ritual by manipulating you into posting in conformance with the expectations of his ritual by aligning your doomed souls to the satan ic traot, thujs ensuring he harvests your energy and life seed from you while youj are sepnt in captivity in the min d. do not feed OP do not engage with him

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>>96485177
How do I convince someone (myself) that the advantage / disadvantage mechanic isn't pure liquid shit?

>>96485637
It works better than having to add a load of modifiers that you aren't going to remember, while you hold up the entire table and interrupt the flow of the game just so you can make a roll that you're probably going to fail anyway. The ADV/DISADV streamlines it and allows the game to flow better. You're welcome to play by yourself with an Excel file if that's too much for you and you prefer wasting everyone's time with boring number crunching.

>>96485644
Ok, but are we seriously going to pretend adding 2 to a roll is some kind of insurmountable mathematical challenge? Surely you can just chill with the amount of bonuses overall, instead of throwing the whole probability curve out the window, no?

>>96485655
5e has those mechanics in place. ADV and DISADV just streamlines situational bonuses and modifiers. And it's not "adding 2 to a roll", situational modifiers are often compounded streams of numbers such as, +2, +1, -5, +3, +1 etc. Sure, the computation isn't exactly difficult but it's just bloat that slows the game down. Now imagine 4-5 players and a DM having to do that routinely and you can see how much slower you are dragging the game down.

>>96485666
But then if the game does use adds, then you haven't really gotten rid of them, and my point stands that what you want is less adds, instead of throwing the whole adds system out the window. Besides, you could still make Adv/Disadv just a flat +3-5 to rolls on top of everything else. The non-stacking rule would be the important bit. This way you would at least have some grasp of what is going on with your chances. I will concede that actual chances don't seem to matter that much to hoomans, so if you want to argue down that route, I can see that argument.

>>96485655
>Ok, but are we seriously going to pretend adding 2 to a roll is some kind of insurmountable mathematical challenge?
its not the difficulty
its the tedium of doing it every single time

>instead of throwing the whole probability curve out the window, no?
90% of people dont really care about probability curves
most people only really know "this makes things more likely" and "this makes things less likely"
adding a second dice adds more physicality to the roll and is more satisfying than adding a mental increase in number at the end

>>96485687
The additions in 5e are straightforward, tied to specific ability modifiers and the proficiency system. These are meant to be pre-added into a single number by the players. There's no reason to not do that ahead of time.
>it has to be black or white
I'm not interested in this level of "thinking". The modifiers exist, just not at a level that adds bloat and time wasting. Half the reason most people swapped to 5e when it first released was because of how much number bloat exists in 3.5 and Pathfinder. The ADV system just takes all of that and streamlines it into 2 rolls. It's a much better system and keeps the table moving.

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>>96485690
>its the tedium of doing it every single time
Just on this topic alone, for bonuses that come up every time you just record them. I do agree that 3.5 had way too many modifiers in combat, but that's mostly due to a bunch of granular rules each with their different modifiers.

>>96485695
>it has to be black or white
Stacking bonuses gives you more granularity over power growth than advantages do. I do see the appeal of the system at face value, I just worry it waters down the game, especially when it comes to power differentiation, etc.

I'll give it a try and see how it feels. Thanks guys.

Marking issue as solved, thread can be closed.

>>96485617
Put down the hooch

>>96485637
>>96485655
It's an imperfect solution, but it's not dogshit. It keeps things simple. And if you really hate it, go play Pathfinder 2 for a while and see how you like that game.

>>96485582
In the linguistic sense. Players are expected to speak in Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian, or Romanian.

>>96485485
Nah, it's perfect. Just make sure that the party is outnumbered twenty-to-one so they have to survive by exploiting chokepoints and rotating injured.

loli hags

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>Can't even buy PDFs of the books
>"digital copies" of the books are just some unlockable on their D&D beyond dogshit platform
>30$
>It is still the most popular RPG out there
I feel the urge to rip and tear.

>>96486526
just buy the books and 'scan' them if you care.

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>>96486526
>Trying to buy anything from Wizards of the Coast
Might I suggest an alternative?

>>96486547
The whole point is that I want to read the book now to see if I like the system before buying the rest of the books. I wouldn't even mind the 30$, but I'm not buying something I don't own in some dogshit platform.

>>96486552
Yes, you may.

>>96486565
look at the OP then? its got the things that you want.

>>96486333
The plan was (taken directly from Lost Mine of Phandelver, without modification):
>3 Redband Ruffians (CR 1/2) in room 2, likely to surprise the players
>3 Skeletons (CR 1/4) in room 4
>2 Redband Ruffians in room 5
>1 Nothic (CR 2) in room 8, doesn't want to fight
>3 Bugbears (CR 1) in room 9
>4 Redband Ruffians in room 10, drunk, the players likely to surprise the mobs
>1 Evil Mage (CR 1) w/ Staff of Defense in room 12, will either be surprised or try to avoid the players
With a pitfall trap in room 3 and one of the bridges in room 8 rigged to drop.

Seems pretty hard.

>>96486585
For a five-man team? That's a paltry three-to-one, good odds for any Greek.

>>96485485
playing the whole game on a grid is video game shit
bring a grid for big setpieces not walking through a hallway

>>96485231
Yes but not degenerated.
Something cute and vanilla, maybe with a bit of conflict but no debauchery like promiscuity or sexual sin.

>>96485617
tarot isn't satanic per se, but it bothers me that they do not use actual D&D pictures, ilustrations or fanart to make the new thread.

at least is not ai goyslop

Reminder that two weapon fighting style allows you to add your ability modifier to the damage of your bonus action attack, nick attack, and bonus action attack of the dual wielder feat

>When you make an extra attack as a result of using a weapon that has the Light property,

>>96486526
>>96486565
your local game shop or chain bookstore probably has a physical copy you can fingerfuck, otherwise just grab a free pdf like everyone else here

>>96486922
At least the threads stand out. So many threads already use bog standard fantasy art for their OPs, which would cause the thread to just get lost in the sea of bait threads.

>>96486922
then you'd have people arguing over what pictures

>OMG IS THAT FREAKSHIT IN THE OP??!?!?!

just be grateful an anon cares enough to make the thread on a consistent basis, that's all you can hope for from this site in the current year

>>96486902
This is Lost Mine of Phandelver.
The Redband Hideout is the big set piece of part 2 of the campaign, and it is the only event in part 2 that uses a grid.

What even compelled you to make that comment?

>>96485231
Absolutely yes! We have Session 0s for a reason and a part of that is discussing what the group's okay with collectively and as individuals. I've had players say
>"I'm not interested in having my character involved in any romantic material- but I have no issue with the others doing that."
or
>"Yes, my character might look around for someone."
and sometimes
>"My PCs already romantically involved with someone- they even have a kid AND a dog."
From experience, I've found that unsurprisingly, when you've got PCs who start romances with NPCs or other PCs the player starts to care more about that NPC/PC and works to help them more or do stuff for them. It makes the character feel more grounded to the world and in many cases I've seen players change the way their character behaves as they pick up mannerisms or ideals from their partners or they start making changes to their level up choices.
For example: My first campaign had a Rogue PC fall for an Artificer NPC- as they started up a romance and time went on, both of them multiclassed into Artificer or Rogue respectfully to symbolize both of them teaching one another their respective talents.


TLDR: Yes, it keeps player invested in their character and gives DMs opportunities to introduce conflicts/quests that are more character driven and personal

>>96487293
and? dont use a grid for exploring a whole ass dungeon. The map is there for your general reference, not for the players to move their token over like you're playing a video game. That stuff is only good for large combat setpieces in complex terrain with dangers/hazards etc, and even then. It's not for walking around looking for traps and talking to npcs.
You think because you're on vtt you have to setup video game shit. You dont need any of that. I don't think you realize the pointlessness of combat in a literal whiteroom of 3x4 tiles. There is no choice to be made, no positioning, no interaction.

>>96487394
>the pointlessness of combat in a literal whiteroom of 3x4 tiles.
what if they choose to move a whole 4 tiles back so they can use a door as a chokepoint?

>>96485177
Virginity status of your current PC, /5eg/?

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Are there any rules/guidelines for giving out information? I know the study action exists personally, I think it is stupid that it requires a whole action to "think" and know if you know something but regardless useful information on this statblock for example

>resistance and immunities
Upon knowing it's an undead, most knowledgeable players will assume it has these immunities, but other creatures are not as common so it'd be helpful to give this kind of info out, but on what DC? 10? 15?

>traits
>special attacks
>spell casting

All useful information that might alter how to approach a fight. Should it be info given out? On what DC? I don't think it should be all given out, but should they have a choice?

>DC 10 for creature type
>DC 15 the previous, plus resistance and immunities
>DC 20 the previous, plus a player can choose one to know a trait, special attack, or if it has spellcasting

Are there better ruels to steal out of 3.5 or pf1e?

What are some cool mind-controlled minions an evil Enchanter could have? What I have so far is a Rogue/Bard optimized for skills, a silly Paladin built around the Dragon Hide feat, and a Fighter who is good at grappling.

Hey, /5eg/. Pathfinder2e player here. Want to ask a question here: what's with the weirdly low attachment rate of 5e2024?
I tend to see many LFGs make expressed points of playing only the 2014 version, maybe a "mix" of the mechanics (despite the fact 90% of the changes are just flat out improvements to many classes and mechanics so you really aren't mixing anything). And it just reads very off to me. Even knowing the potential reasons like needing to buy (lol, lmao) all the new books again or their distaste in WotC's practices, nothing about 5e24 itself seems like it would create this genuine split. Having seen how easy the PF2e Remaster project went, to the point people are asking for more of the older books to be remastered ASAP, I can't imagine Wizards truly dropped the ball THAT HARD in marketing the deal. So what gives? What are your personal reasons to not diving on in.

>>96487695
WotC failed to really convince people of both:
- It being cross-compatible (though it is)
- The changes being for the better (though they are)

5etards in particular hate learning rules, that's why they're trapped in 5e and also take 5 minutes every turn.

>>96487695
The persistent downwards trend in quality of WotC's releases.

>>96487695
2 steps back for each step forward
also everyone has been playing for 10 years with their custom homebrew on top of 5e because unlike PF 5e was never a system that worked as a whole

>>96487695
>So what gives? What are your personal reasons to not diving on in.
ive swapped
some people are afraid of giving a toy company money

>just asking questions btw

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What's the coolest non-attunement magic weapon and why is it the Mace of Smiting?

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>>96487855
Giant Slayer. Laying big enemies out with a blow is cool.

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>>96487855
Javelin of Lightning is really cool, the Lash of Immolation is cute, the Lute of Thunderous Thumping is fun (Make it into a Guitar)...
While its not 'cool' mechanically- the Vicious Weapons are really strong and can be flavored into something cool. Like they seek blood or something.

>>96487695
The art in the new books is less inspiring!

>>96487578
>What are some cool mind-controlled minions an evil Enchanter could have?

Literally anything. They are mind controlled.

Which minions/hazards could one add to make the lair of a blue dragon wyrmling a worthwhile fight for a party of 6th level characters? I'm thinking multiple shambling mounds.

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>>96465669
>>96465669
>>96465669
You guys here about the game splitting into a Basic and Advanced again?

The new starter set, the one with all the card thingies, doesn't actually use '24 rules. It has its own rules.

>>96487532
>Are there better ruels to steal out of 3.5 or pf1e?
People laugh about "bear lore" but 4e had some decent rules and stat block blurbs about what knowledge checks told you. Bear lore isn't actually all that ridiculous, not every race is native to places with bears. It only seems silly because you, the player, have a large circumstance bonus to know about them because you live on the surface in the information age. The fuck does a githyanki or a thri-kreen or sahuagin know about bears?

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Highly specific build question: what's the half-feat with +1 to DEX that you would recommend for an Aarakocra Rogue 8/Monk 5?
Taking a half-feat for 18 DEX at Rogue 4, maxing out DEX at Rogue 8, taking Mobile at Monk 4.

>>96488336
>4e bear lore is actually something that makes sense -> DC 20: Dire bears typically maul prey with their claws or
crush them to death with their thick, bestial arms. Nature DC 15: Creatures caught in a crocodile’s
tooth-lined mouth are savaged until they manage to tear themselves loose or are killed.

not entirely sure why we need to do a dc20 check to figure out that a bear will use its claws or a croc will use its mouth to bite.

>links to a bait post btw

>>96487695
I'll bite, Ayoub.

There WERE certainly some improvements, but unlike PF unchained or PF2 remaster, there were a lot of changes that were objectively for the worse. And a lot of their worst foibles were just laughably repeating the mistakes of 4e.
>the whole OGL thing still scaring away all 3rd party support and adventure writing (GSL rerun, still not actually fixed because the new OGL is still worded sus in ways)
>unnecessarily redesigning abilities purely for the sake of making them easier to code in the now-cancelled Sigil 3D (gleemax VTT rerun in every concievable way except the murder-suicide)
>unifying mechanics across classes that don't make conceptual sense to unify, only ease of balance sense (e.g. subclasses always at 3rd, what do you mean a cleric doesn't know the god they serve until 3 levels in. An AEDU rerun in a way)
>redesigning features to nerf them that were not actually overly strong, just centralizing because other options underperformed, or nerfing the wrong issue of a problematic combo. (e.g. multi-smites, sharpshooter, wildshape)
>dev intended exploit-like mechanics that just feel outlandish or weird (attack of opportunity on allies warcaster buff casting, weapon juggling)
>removal of custom backgrounds, presumably due to tying backgrounds to significant mechanical strength, partially to take it away from race.
>removal of harmless flavor ribbon features
>still contains blatant trap options despite an insistence that they would all be fixed (savage attacker, find traps)
>new options or redesigns that feel INCREDIBLY pushed, either to prescribe a certain playstyle or to engender adoption of a controversial change (conjure minor elementals).
>pozzing of races that took them out of their core player fantasy. people who choose orc WANT to be angry intimidating smashy vikings. They don't want to be peaceful explorer nomadic twink mexicans what the actual fuck WotC. People who choose to be drow are edgelords, why take away their edginess?

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>>96488584
>schizo posting tourist
fuck off btw

>>96488487
>not entirely sure why we need to do a dc20 check to figure out that a bear will use its claws or a croc will use its mouth to bite.
Again, you the poster have probably got a +10 bonus to this roll.

Imagine if you had never seen a bear in your life. Maybe had only ever heard the word a couple of times in passing from travelers from far off.

Without googling, tell me the deadliness threat level and primary attacking method of a slow loris. A cambodian would know easy, but do you?

>>96488654
>Without googling, tell me the deadliness threat level and primary attacking method of a slow loris. A cambodian would know easy, but do you?
wait, NTA but this sounds like a fun game.
Please describe it as you would to a PC

>>96488605
Feeling threatened by the truth? If you didn't want to hear everything wrong with your game you shouldn't have asked.

Maybe next time pay a focus group or put out a survey. They'll be a lot kinder to your tender fee-fees than 4chan.

>>96488671
>Hey, /5eg/. Pathfinder2e player here.
ESL?

>>96488683
naw, just a classic 5eggs retard

>>96488605
Every point made is valid. 5.5e has some seriously retarded issues. It has some improvements too but it did exactly what they didn’t want it to, split the fanbase. It will be like essentials was for 4e, a poor bandaid idea that ultimately flops hard.

>>96488716
But why did they make it in the first place?

>>96488716
>Every point made is valid
no they arent you fucking dipshit. its just pol tier rambling

>>96488603
Everyone fears the mouse.

>>96488603
you mean Giant? where you can pick up and throw motherfuckers around?

If you mean literally just destroying objects, all barbarians have that, the bonus damage you do applies to more than just creatures. That's one of the main differences between martial attacks and spells, they don't care what you're targeting so you can sunder objects and gear too. Being able to target objects is one of the things that makes firebolt good.

>>96488664
DC20: "Despite their unassuming appearance and mammalian nature, slow lorises have a strongly necrotizing toxic bite, created when saliva mixes with the secretions of a toxic gland in their armpit. It is strongly advisable to wear protective gloves when handling them, and to not eat their meat unless it's been very delicately prepared to avoid rupturing the gland."

>>96488724
They made it to screw over roll20. They were trying to buy them out and used a new edition as a bargaining chip. With a new edition roll20 were going to lose all their rights and WoTC were bringing in their garbage ogl. Fortunately their OGL plan backfired enormously and fell apart. But they’d already committed to making it and were still planning the sigil engine (which I imagine was outshone in every way be BG3). Their vtt failed too. Their efforts to corner the vtt market crashed and failed hard, what we’re left with is a bizarre half edition that is too afraid to become its own edition and as a result doesn’t justify its own existence.

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>>96488683
>"You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies? - Buster Baxter".png
>"On the internet nobody knows you're a dog".jpg
>where_do_you_think_we_are.bmp

Who's the tourist here?

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>>96488724

>>96488790
(you)

>>96488760
I wanted to read the sensorial description and try to guess without a roll the CR and main attack.

>>96488782
>They made it to screw over roll20.
And every other TTRPG brand that was using 5e or 3.5 or otherwise invoking the OGL as a base. I.e. damn near all of the OSR space (though not NSR), dungeon world, paizo, green ronin, kobold press, basically everyone that joined ORC.

They wanted a full market monopoly, VTT and D20 Game System(s). And adventures, because if you planned to sell any amateur works commercially, much less corporate level, you'd have had to put it on their DMs Guild or else submit to being vassalized by WotC, oversight and taxes owed.

>>96488891
"From a tree branch, grasping it with tiny pink almost frog-like hands and hand-feet, you see a bread-loaf sized creature that looks like a weasel and a lemur threesomed a fleece teddy bear. At the center of two dark rings, it stares at you with beady forward-facing black eyes that betray a mixture of predated fear and primitive curious wonder at these colorful giants in front of it."

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>Human
>Male
>Fighter
Okay, what's the personality, though?

>>96489168
That's the beauty of the male human fighter, anything and everything works. It's truly a blank canvas.

>Half-Elf, Drow (SCAG variant)
>Male
>Hexblade Warlock
Okay, what's the personality, though?

>>96489168
Honorable but not to the point of stupidity.
Practical but not to the point of psychopathy.
Gruff but friendly.
Would rather die than break an oath voluntarily given.

>>96489164
who cares about the ogl / orc when 5e/5.5e are both in the creative commons?

>>96489219
>who cares about the ogl / orc when 5e/5.5e are both in the creative commons?
OGL forbids its usage with any other licensing agreement, so you cannot use OGL material (e.g. any 3pp) in combination with CC material.

>>96489214
Why hasn't there been a knight subclass for Fighter?

>>96489255
>There is, it sucks.

>>96489255
Cavalier.

>>96489230
wait, are you suggesting that there's a company using kobold press (as an example) + their own materials and pushing it to market?

>>96489168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-K6JM-bjWg&t=6734s

>>96489273
Anybody making any PF1e/2e stuff (pre-OGL fiasco) was doing that, off the top of my head. Same with various other OGL-derived retroclones. Not "copying their materials," generally, any more than somebody making a new Warlock pact is copying 5e, but if anybody ever made a 3pp subclass of a 3pp class, that's OGL.

I want to be a bladesinger who actually stays in melee range. But the thing is that wizard has d6 hitdice and typically has low AC as well. What do?

>>96489346
Abjurer.

>>96489346
Tough Origin and False Life

>>96489273
From a legal standpoint it's possible.

Though Pathfinder or Free League 5e LotR would be a lot more likely to be getting 4th party content than kobold press imho. Especially pathfinder, i'm pretty sure i've seen examples.

>>96489346
Eldritch Knight literally exists for this purpose.

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>>96489255
3.5 had the Knight Class which was like a Paladin that focused nearly on defense and calling dudes to 1v everyone them.

Their kit (and that of Dwarven Defender if you're never going to bring that forward.) should have served as the basis of a shield base fighting style and yet, here we are.

>>96487695
Thanks for the responses. I genuinely meant no harm or punching down, I am genuinely curious or baffled by the community's disinterest. If anything, it kind of frustrating to see the 5e2014/2024 split thanks to how pointless it is. Paizo ain't great at marketing themselves or making strong changes, so it really does confuse me how they managed to make the 2e Remaster Project pretty much a slam dunk while Wizards fucked up, despite it being a way larger company.

>>96487782
>>96488584
>>96488716
As much as I want to believe the changes are bad and that's a big reason no one wants to live with them... I feel like most are at least on an acceptable level, or not enough to say it would be a mistake to move on them. Even the comparison to 4e Essentials doesn't make much sense to be, given how Essentials stuff is incompatible with 4e's original meta and design: it wasn't made to build up on it. It's not like every change they did was a complete middle-finger like what they did to Ranger.
Also some of the /pol/lack stuff, I can't imagine the average 5e player caring. Border-Hopper Orcs are as funny as aggravating, but I can't imagine being so into 5e 10 years down the line and not learn how either accept or ignore the virtue signallnig.

>>96487751
I CAN believe the poor marketing issue, if hard to believe they haven't realized it a year later. It WAS a very confusing deal ("so is THIS OneD&D?") and even PF2e still having people asking "So what is the difference with Remastered content?". Still, given how people are HOSTILE towards the change compared to confused, I can't imagine it really was THAT BAD a market move.
The new Starter Set and that controversy >>96488336, bait thread aside, does make it feel like they have no clue how to market the game anymore, though...

>>96489219
I would like to remind newfags that at the time ORC was created, 5e was not in CC. CC was in response to the ORC forming, in short the rest of the industry saying "collectively, we out-lawyer you, the whole reason the OGL exists in the first place is because your forebears knew it was a largely unwinnable case to argue copyright theft of game rules, and we can and will just make our own d20 license agreement with blackjack and hookers and then you'll have nothing."

But yes, the ORC in its current form is largely redundant, EXCEPT when it comes to things based on 3.5, which was not released to CC. Which is to say, a significant majority of WotC's competitors. I can't think of any systems other than black flag and shadowdark that use *5e* as a base, and they're both actually different licenses because they were published AFTER the OGL situation. Pugmire 1st edition I guess?
It's mostly just settings for use with 5e, like Humblewood or whatever that benefitted from the CC move. But it was great optics to the fanbase.
And everyone that WAS still affected because they used 3.5 just rewrote and rereleased under their own or a conglomerate one like ORC, e.g. M&M4, PF2 Remaster, etc.

In fact, you can kind of tell which companies were bullied into signing the new agreement, for instance, Goodman Games hasn't had any new material or even licensed fanmade creations added to their shop in over 2 years. Why did DCC disappear off the map? Almost certainly they got scared by the mass threat letter and signed.

>>96489563
>Also some of the /pol/lack stuff, I can't imagine the average 5e player caring. Border-Hopper Orcs are as funny as aggravating
But does it hype you to play an orc? It's not about them getting politically butthurt, of course normies don't care about that, it's about taking the wind out of their fun sails. They've committed the only sin in entertainment worse than being politically offensive, a truly unforgivable transgression, they've made it boring.

>>96489563
I have heavily considered just gestalt merging the two CC releases into one document, that either reverts or correctly refixes all of the especially dumbass 5e24 changes.

Legally, there's nothing they can do to stop me.

The only problem is without a selection of feats and subclasses it's pretty OSR tier basic.

>>96489575
>ORC was created, 5e was not in CC. CC was in response to the ORC forming
this is a lie btw. 5e was put into the SRD in 2023 Jan, while the ORC was published in 2023 June. ORC was a response to the OGL fuckery in 2022 december but wotc was much faster in their response to their own fuck up and put 5e into the SRD prior to the more limited ORC release

>>96489607
imagine being so unimaginative you have to rely on wotc to get you hyped up to play a character, what a sad life you have

>>96489575
>Goodman Games
wikipedia indicates otherwise, but maybe its because their website is shit that you cant find stuff

>be DM
>running game for a group of 4
>druid, cleric (Silvanus), monk, rogue
>two tree lovers and two dexfags
>no one to tank or do Athletics checks
>only rogue has charisma so we can't even theatre kid right
>combats don't last since I'm against 4 glasscannons
>cleric spent his free feat getting 3 INT skills to try and close the gap
I wasn't gonna tell them "no fuck you, you need a barb and a mage or you won't play" but hell if I don't hate one-dimensional parties

>>96489863
>combats don't last since I'm against 4 glasscannons
Found the problem. Kill a character and see if they're smart enough to fill the gaps.

>Human
>Male
>Fighter
Okay, I understand, but can you bastards stop spamming this shit? I'm NEVER going to play Human Fighter, I'm ALWAYS going to play as a barbarian orc, I don't give a shit.

>>96488336
>Bear lore isn't actually all that ridiculous, not every race is native to places with bears.
It's even less ridiculous than that, because the checks are largely about Cave Bears and Dire Bears, both being monstrous versions.

The DC 15 check lets you know that Cave Bears have Darkvision, and the DC 20 check tells you about how Dire Bears have a grab attack that deals automatic damage on subsequent turns. Something the Cave Bear notably lacks.

>>96488487
Similar case for the crocs really. Guessing that a croc will bite you with its big mouth is one thing. Knowing that the jaws are designed to trap you and keep you there rather than just ripping off a chunk of flesh is more detailed knowledge.
And even in the example you pointed to, it's a DC 15 check to know that about crocs. That's a 25% chance for a random commoner to have that info, which certainly isn't bad.

And ultimately I'd rather the designers at least try to put DCs to various aspects of monster knowledge near the statblock, rather than the DM just having to make it up on the fly.

>>96489891
>at least try to put DCs to various aspects of monster knowledge near the statblock
...like they did in 4E?

>>96489863
>be a dm
>dont adapt the quests and encounter to the party
this is dming 101. If a PC takes speak with animals, there are gonna be animals around that witnessed the murder or something. If the party is full of face types, the quests should be a about diplomacy. Expand your horizon beyond combat

>>96489887
Sounds boring and like you have issues with your dad.

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>>96485231
Romance? No.
Court intrigue leading to banging princesses for favors? Yes. Fights over dwarven twin sisters? Yes.
But never any graph paper girlfriends or sheeeeit.

>>96489346
Bladesinger, while under Bladesong usually is around AC 17-23 before the shield spell. AC is only a problem before your first turn. HP wise, get the Tough feat. That extra 2 HP per level puts you at a max hp of a d10 class like a Ranger or Fighter.
For a 2024 Wizard, you could play a Human Wizard Bladesinger with the Tough Origin feat and the Magic Initiate (Cleric) feat so you’d have access to Cure Wounds or Healing Word with INT to heal yourself or others when needed. Also False Life can give you some extra Temporary Hir Points.

>>96490824
>Human Wizard Bladesinger
you mean elf - right?

I can't decide whether to go full damage mode with my Vengeance Paladin and take Two-Weapon Fighting or take Dueling for a more defensive style with my shield and longsword.
damn

>>96490841
You can play an Elf Bladesinger- you just won’t be able to get both Tough and Magic Initiate (Cleric)/Alert at level 1. I doubt most would want to sacrifice an ASI for one either. Now that I think about it a Dwarf Bladesinger with Tough would have an extra 3-50 hit points which leads to a heartier Bladesinger!
Not to say an Elf gets nothing good! They get shorter Long Rest so you can do some crafting and they get some okay spells like Misty Step from the High Elf. It’s just less good cause the Wizard already has that- but you do save up a preparation slot! And you got a one a day free casting!

>>96490920
>Dwarf Bladesinger
a dwarf in the role of a knife ear?

>>96490849
I just did some calculations, and it seems that while Two-Weapon Fighting does more damage, it's not substantial, especially at lower levels. I think I'll stick with my shield, longsword, and Duelist Feat combo.
although now I'm not very sure of my general feat

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>>96490936
Sure nothing stops them from doing it! If you’re using the 2024 UA version Bladesinger you can get Athletics Proficiency and use a Warhammer with INT! Run into melee, block and parry stuff with your hammer and smash some heads! Oh and have tremor sense while your at it too!

>>96490941
>>96490849
This is for 2014 edition but I don't know how relevant is still
https://mysticbasilisk.blogspot.com/2020/04/d-5e-which-fighting-style-is-best.html

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How can I fix my boredom with running 5e? After 4 years everything is feeling samey. Combats, enemies, subclasses, feats, everything. 24e isn't all that different either, it feels like amateur homebrew.

>>96491017
what level is your group and how long have they been at that level?

>>96491030
They just got to level 8 last session, this is the 5th campaign I've run.

>>96489563
The only reason the 2e remaster is a "slam dunk" is because PF2 players are cuckslaves to Paizo. People who make a game their identity aren't going to criticize a company even when it's obvious you guys are getting fleeced, even if they're using the OGL drama as an excuse.

>>96491038
what level do they usual get to?

>>96491052
>15th
>12th
>8th
>10th
About the level each campaign ended at. I only end the campaign when it feels right to, not when the group reaches X level.

>>96491067
im just wondering not if youre stopping early or whatever, but if its just because you're experiencing the same scenarios / combats and not really seeing more stuff to play with.

what types of adventures are you running?

>>96487433
>Dragonborn sorc
Recently lost in a downtime/side chapter to old crush she last met years ago
>half-elf rogue
Probably intact, haven't decided if she was raped as a child but her sister was and they were both physically abused
>fairy druid/artificer
Exaggerates his body count but it's in double digits over 60-plus years

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Is Warding Bond as OP in tabletop as it is in my video toy? Does your Cleric/Paladin use it or why not?

>>96491077
15th level campaign was the first campaign I ran, LMoP that continued after the official stuff ended. The wizard Icestaff got away so they went after him, did a little stuff in the Icewind Dales, then transitioned to the Underdark to kill The Black Spider's remaining gang.
12th was Curse of Strahd.
8th was magic school hogwarts bullshit.
10th was a jungly hexcrawl inspired by the Tomb of Annihilation book.

>>96489563
> It's not like every change they did was a complete middle-finger like what they did to Ranger.
He doesn’t know

>>96491122
3/4 are pretty combat heavy, maybe you need a more story shitter adventure where the players take more narrative control and have them tell the story while you adapt the world

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>>96485177
>Party is fighting 3 Werewolves
>Our Cleric got bit and turned instantly, becoming another werewolf we have to fight
>Get clawed and bit at by the Cleric but rolled high enough constitution to not turn
>Want to use Giant Insect on my 3 spiders to create some distance between me and the werewolves but the DM says they're just gonna turn into werewolves if they get bit
>No homebrew stats for the Spider-werewolves or anything, just basic Werewolf stats if it comes down to it

Looking back on it that was just a way for the DM to avoid dealing with 3 additional creatures
Luckily our party didn't snowball into a bunch of us turning into werewolves and it was only our Cleric that had a run of bad luck

>>96491040
Probably, but given the sheer size of Wizards and D&D as a brand, they have to do something HORRIFIC to their own playerbase to lose nearly all their own cuckslaves. Sending the Pinkertons to all their homes-level. You can't really say 5e doesn't have its fanatics, especially with people still playing the 2014 edition instead of just not playing D&D. So again, what gives?

>>96491156
I would like to know, that's why I asked.

>>96491442
They absolutely do even though the new product is imo somewhat inferior. I'm just seething at PF2 fans because I've read one too many PF2 shill posts lately.

Going into a low-level adventure where my plot hook (we each got a different one) is that there is a fruit with powerful healing properties somewhere underground in the ruins of a castle that was swallowed by the earth.

I kind of want to play a character with a physical disability. Any ideas?

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>>96491485
tactical wheelchar

>>96489891
>25% chance for a random commoner to have that info
30%. There are 6 rolls out of 20 that result in a success at +0.

>>96491485
if serious, isn't there a zatoichi style blind swordman with blind sight?
if that was a joke, headless.

>>96491442
ive just done a quick initial look on websites for finding groups / tables for online play and there's more groups looking for 2024 (+2014 because the content is compatible) than there are for explicitly just 2014 content. its like 60-70% of tables are using the new stuff it seems.

ive not done a complete survey of it, but its probably just a lot of complainers who've made a fuss about not wanting to switch. there's a lot of people who sit around in the 5e community space and just hate 5e, and despite wanting to and playing other games, they just sit around the 5e spaces because thats where all the cool kids are

>>96491592
I'm serious, but all my ideas don't come online until 3rd level at the earliest.

>>96488584
>what do you mean a cleric doesn't know the god they serve until 3 levels in
The warlock bitching has some merit because they at least propose your patron being unknown until level 3 in the flavour, but how do you get this?

>>96491442
We did a survey on here not too long ago. It was a pretty even split between 5e and 5.5e. I think the main reasons 5.5e is underperforming and not seen a big uptake are as follows
>Finishing/continuing a long standing campaign
>Don’t want or need to buy a new book. The improvements barely justify the cost. Even pirated you have to learn the differences in the new rules.
>Don’t want to learn new rules
>Many people already have their own 5.5e with excessive amounts of houserules. WoTC encouraged this through their lazy design
>Don’t like specific changes. For example the subclasses being at level 3 for everyone. For example a warlock with no specific patron, sorcerer not knowing his ancestry etc. They also nerfed martials even more as many monsters no longer have the loophole where magic weapons bypass many resistances. Ranger was nerfed???

It just doesn’t seem like it was an edition made with the intention of making significant improvements or changes. And the 5e community were already making many house rules and have a plethora of third party content to use. People are taking up 5.5e but slowly and not everyone will swap over.

>>96491602
you don't get a proper response from a deity until then

>>96491608
third party content was also much clearer about what they changed and how, but you have to study 2024 to find what changed. There is no clear patch notes to see what got changed and what was kept.

>>96491626
>There is no clear patch notes
you mean the release videos which explained changes or their website which has it as well?

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>>96489214
>Honorable but not to the point of stupidity.
>Would rather die than break an oath

Pardon?

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Should female clerics be pretty?

>>96491637
I said clear. I want a list in order of what main mechanics were changed. Not a video, not a html5 thingie, I want a couple A4 pages that tell me what I need to keep track of.

>>96491649
i got u senpai

https://rpgbot.net/dnd-2024-5e-transition-guide-and-change-log-everything-thats-different-in-the-new-players-handbook/

>>96491017
5e is deep as a puddle mechanically. It's only good for bringing new players/coworkers/friends in easily. The fun is in DnD, not 5e. To have the minimum of 5e in your game, have the minimum combat.

>>96491656
oh, I though it was gonna waste space tying to be funny but it was better than expected.
I still feel that WotC should had included something like this instead of the un-intuitive things they did. If you want to funnel your audience you need to make it easy to grasp.

>>96491644
All young female characters should be pretty. Especially the sexy nuns.

>>96491678
>https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1810-updates-in-the-players-handbook-2024
if you want a wotc one

>>96491644
Unless they're old, yes.
>Not every acolyte or officiant at a temple or shrine is a cleric. Some priests are called to a simple life of temple service, carrying out their gods' will through prayer and sacrifice, not by magic and strength of arms. In some cities, priesthood amounts to a political office, viewed as a stepping stone to higher positions of authority and involving no communion with a god at all. True clerics are rare in most hierarchies.

If you're gonna be chosen and gifted by god, you should look the part.

>>96488336
Yea. I know the old monster manual and a cool tidbit
>Gaze of Stone. Basilisks are ponderous for hunting creatures, but they needn't chase prey. Meeting a basilisk's supernatural gaze can be enough to affect a rapid transformation, transforming a victim into porous stone. Basilisks, with their strong jaws, are able to consume the stone. The stone returns to organic form in the basilisk's gullet.
>Some alchemists are said to know how to process the basilisk's gullet and the fluids contained within. [Properly handled, the gullet produces an oil that can return petrified creatures to flesh and life.] Unfortunately for such a victim, any parts lost in stone form remain absent if the creature revives. Revivification using the oil is impossible if a vital part of the petrified creature, such as its head, is detached.


Which is good to know. If someone gets petrified, and you don't have a cure on hand, maybe someone with a decent survival skill can harvest the oil of a slain basilisk for a cure.

And as I said, there are rules for what to roll as a study action, but not what the roll would provide

>>96489939
I'll take a look at these. Thank you.

>>96488487
I think it's good to know that it doesn't have any other abilities, like magic resistance, like a crag cat.

>>96489891
>And ultimately I'd rather the designers at least try to put DCs to various aspects of monster knowledge near the statblock, rather than the DM just having to make it up on the fly.

Yea, this is exactly how I feel. As the DM it's nice to be able to remain consistent in how you deliver the game and having to memorize all the bullshit rules you produce off the top of your head is annoying.

>>96491596
>>96491608
Thanks for the info, guys. I personally think that the 30-40% of tables not using 2024 content is still really weird and kind of unhelpful, but I at least understand the reasons and apprehensions. Hopefully they sort something out. Even as a Paizodrone, I wouldn't want 5e24 to flop, at least not for insane levels of self-sabotage with 5e14's own dominance being in the way. I think that's honestly kind of a scary thought.

>>96491927
>I wouldn't want 5e24 to flop
Why? If it flops maybe they'll have to make something decent. I like 5e that's why I'm here but I love variety too. If more people try games other than 5e I'm all for it. I despise pathfinder though. The people who play it are too retarded to play something non d20, but too pretentious to just play 5e.

>>96491644
Yes, but not instagram pretty, which is what you posted.

>>96487695
>>96489563
>>96491442
>>96491927
The biggest factor really is that, over the ten years between 2014 and 2024, the playerbase had identified a lot of the issues and come up with a variety of fixes and homebrew material. A fixed and updated 5e was kind of already available, with multiple places to discuss which materials to use. And the best part was that it was modular and could be adjusted to suit your playgroup's preferred level of power and complexity.

When WotC announced a revision, there was a lot of expectation that we'd see something along the lines of what we'd been seeing amateurs come up with. Instead, we got mostly-pointless word shuffling, needless standardization that broke some class fantasies, a few spells being completely rewritten solely to overwrite their broken 2014 counterparts, and a half-assed weapon system that was clearly hurriedly copied from BG3. There were some good ideas in there, but the useful material per page ratio wasn't worth making the jump for groups that had already instituted more comprehensive and meaningful revisions. While some brewers, like our local Bullshit Anon, have implemented some of the 5.5 changes in their work, they're typically treated more like a list of possible changes than as a base edition to build on.

>>96492541
>a half-assed weapon system that was clearly hurriedly copied from BG3
The other parts I can agree with but the bg3 weapon system uses abilities with cooldowns while the 5.5e weapons have passive abilities. Bg3 weapons always give their powers while in 5.5e you need to go martial classes and get a set number of them. They’re fundamentally different so I have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.

What are the odds for a revival Dark Sun?
What are the odds for it to be good?

>>96492745
Decent, given the recent UA
Incredibly low

Anyone ever kick a player for simply almost never rping? I don’t mean “funny voices” or whatever pretend tryhards think of when they hear RP. I just mean no matter which character this guy plays he always acts or thinks the exact same way. It’s never the character speaking or reasoning or making choices, it’s always really the player. I have to do extremely obvious targeted scenes or dreams or npc encounters directly tied to his character for him to remember he’s playing a character and then maybe for 5min he might remember and “switch” to the character’s attitude/motivations/behavior. It’s tiresome and stands out because my other players really bring interesting and fun (for me and other players) behaviors that make for great moments, and when they play something else one one shots or whatever you can see the difference. This guy is just dead weight and brings nothing in that aspect. He’s never original or clever or surprising.

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Lads fought this yesterday, thought y'all might like it

>>96492834
>anyone ever kick a player for being a bad player?
Sure. It's usually some other version of being a bad player, like not paying attention, not showing up, etc., but anything that ticks them over from increasing everyone's fun into decreasing it is a no-brainer.

>>96492898
I guess my problem is he has no issues there. Always shows up, no drama. Just sucks at the “making it fun for others” part.

5th level fighting tournament one-shot, eight players, single elimination PvP, 2014 rules, you're allowed to take a short rest between rounds, but the entire tournament happens in the span of one day. What do you playé and why?

>>96492933
Right so just do a value analysis.
>Will kicking him lead to better games short term?
>How about long term?
>If not, will it be reasonably easy to fill his empty slot with someone that will make the game better short/long term?

>>96492953
Depends on the setting details. I'm not going into something like that caring overmuch about whether I win or lose.

>>96492953
Moon druid for obvious reasons