"Remember the days below" edition>What is this?/TG/ DEVELOPED A GAMEIT IS PLAYABLE. IT HAS BEEN PLAYED.EXPEDITION is a ~1880s era, Jules Verne-inspired retro-futurist, underground blood soaked adventurescape.It is a Skirmish wargame. Two players with their own expeditions, on a hexgrid map, explore & fight each other for victory and profit.3 versions of the rules exist, 2 of which have been playtested. The main one is 2e, to be found :>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/us7vnek39dc6k/AgarthaRulesas with maps, tokens and lore resources.>TL;DR Dochttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1LxdaGoBlJRTMuziMDupG5TeeFwNDnsIW2pfaRAcFDgA>Main Lore Doc, including links to anon-written short stories and additional lore in "Recommended..." sectionhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1bRrxdD1BMLmcMDFeszwqg2Rcjrt8DDo7tjAxoOB6KQ8>3e Rules Doc (READY FOR MORE PLAYTESTS)https://docs.google.com/document/d/14ZpHhEyUbjt-SCx2xuAd0lyh7Rs4J7rK5kHkljqykhk/>Unit Spreadsheet - Currently outdated, requires an updatehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rcleQtrT4Q0INiBW50-kq2ZXWJ-cjLOeVTLTJg_oX5E>Unit Design Dochttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1n0X89OdMPXJKQGm6kYcOABjhjE4NZER1fvmpDmDX1JAWiki>https://eadsttcoteg.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_PageKaiser Anon's audiodrama (now complete!)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwfxQxrHe4M&list=PLKLbVXLsxBBw1EHR-81wTYMJkWKKiQFfH>What can I do?Shitpost, meme, get comfy. Read over the docs to settle in.Familiarize yourself with rules and ask for an intro game or participate in playtests. If you are interested in designing a faction for a wargame, this is the place.Contribute if you have ideas. Give feedback on contributions if you don't.>TQ: How does Atlan's aesthetic look? Reference art will be appreciated.Previous thread: >>96307884
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fourth for KILL englishmen
Fifth for Atlantis.
>>96529340>sebastianist detected
>>96528583>>TQ: How does Atlan's aesthetic look? Reference art will be appreciated.This would be the noeme of my vision for Atlan. The way I see Atlan, they are the incarnation of cruel pragmatism. They are not lolwut evil like Chaos or Dark Elves in WHF, like I've said before I don't really see any faction as pure evil, (Hyperborea is pretty darn hard to find excuses for outside of hardcore relativism), but Atlan really grew in my mind to be the Soldier's Dilemma extended to an entire Nation ("You are a soldier on the frontlines. Your presence will very likely not be what decides if your side wins or lose, but for you it means life or death. On an individual level, you are rationally justified in deserting. However, to the General's mind, if every soldier thinks the same, the battle *is* 100% lost." This was the ancient justification for the death penalty for deserting). As such it feels to me that their armour and weaponry needs to be more effective than ornamental. I would suggest Maximilian armour as a basis, because its reaching toward the apex of heavy armour (Atlan goes to war often, they are practiced, and would adopt/develop something that works) and has a good variety of plain to ornamented. There's also a lot of weird headpieces to draw from. The greek connection would be drawn through the language used and iconography rather than the shape of the armor itself.
>>96529340Shut up Malcolm, you only got away because the vile sorceress whispering in your ear cheated you from your rightful death. You are not even a man anymore, only the shadow that Napoleon lacks.
>>96531123>Hyperborea is pretty darn hard to find excuses for outside of hardcore relativismFunny enough, there's a really great lecture on more or less that same subject. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpBJhbSG46A
>>96531123While I can appreciate the dedication to a heavy plate aesthetic, is there anything Atlan represents besides that? Like what's the civilian population like? If an adventuring party needs to stay at an Atlan city, what do they find there? How would a DM describe it?
>>96531254I should say: Make sure you listen to the whole thing, because there's lots stuff at the start that only makes sense at the end. If you have time, listen to it twice. >>96531328>If an adventuring party needs to stay at an Atlan city, what do they find there?"They crossed the Sacred Atlan Wall? THIS MEANS WAR!"
>>96510993>you only roll for those who would be able to claim it at the start of the turn? Once awareness roll for every group? I like it.>I don't necessarily see it as OP (at least, not in comparison to the standard set by Warm MealsThe big problem is that it retains it's special properties as a Warm Meal. I think Cost 2 would be okay>Mounts, that could be a trait for the Uhlan Captain?That sounds good. I'm not so keen on the Olm-Wyrm anymore.>>96515096I image it's more an issue of material than politics.
>>96531351>"They crossed the Sacred Atlan Wall? THIS MEANS WAR!"This is exactly the problem I've always have with Atlan. I think it could be so much more than "muh plate armor" and "muh wall, muh war". But it's your baby, I guess.
>>96531582I think it is politics. Atlantis has shown itself to be a cosmopolitan nation of mostly ordinary Greeks in a land of fishmen, cultic mongols, eldritch worshippers and a secessionist group obsessed with adorning themselves in metal. Out of anyone it'd only make sense they'd be the ones to start diplomatic relations with the colonial powers. They're a people of nearly 5+ faiths with tens of denominations/mystery cults, at least fifteen different languages brought on by hellenized civilizations and conquered populaces, an actual representative government and a rulership not lead by a batshit tyrant. That's not even mentioning the likelihood of Atlantis's involvement in modern greek affairs, how else do you explain how a tiny county in Greece helped achieve full independence other then two islands and a byzantine holdout that was defeated a century previous?
>>96531716I once tried explaining to the dude he had nothing other then forced memes and parasitically aping off Atlantis for lore relevancy before, but got reddit snark and sarcasm instead.
>>96531799I'm not the Atlan guy, but I do like them. They have the same kind of appeal that looking at a classic Warhammer art piece can give you, where there's a bunch of freaky weirdos in outlandish getup sneering at each other.Narratively I think they've progressed to a good point. The Atlan we see in the game era is both new and unstable, having rapidly expanded after the Titking's rise. So it's alright if they're a little psychotic since they'll be due for a smackdown by someone in the 30 years before the deluge, like Taiping or Italy. The big complaint that I have about Altan is that there's clearly a lot of subfaction lore (the hospitalliers, the wall church, the different corps, etc) but it's hard to piece together. I think some more writeups are in order on that front.Anyways, here's what I think they look like. Except all the models are painted in a unified scheme, the stormcast are given shinbone removal surgery to make them tall but not superhuman (except immortals who we assume are in heels), and bits are crossbashed between figures to maintain cohesion.I'm currently knocking out some saur order models and testing the waters of magnetization but once that's through I can get back to my Atlan figures and push through some unarmoured (or less armored) ones.
Also, I'd like the shoutout Antediluvean Miniatures for having two ranges perfect for Agartha:https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/shop-lost-world-range/https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2019/03/27/shop-conquistadors-of-mictlan/
>>96531858See that's the problem. You're convincing YOURSELF that there's depth to it. But even in your own words there's not enough. Atlananon never did shit for expanding on it, other people did that. If everyone stopped doing a thing for Atlan right now, it would die here because the main guy pushing them is an barely functional autist who outside randomly blurbing out shit, doesn’t actually contribute anything of substance. Everyone else has had to carry water for this "faction" and all it's been is dart thrown concepts on a board. Size of a lake, depth of a puddle. Meanwhile even the guy pushing volcano god Italy put in actual fluff of more then a sentence to it, however unlikely the events and timeline of it is. Atlan anon hasn't done shit except mooch off other people's effort.
>>96531971I had fun carrying the faction water with Ages of Atlan, might as well give it a go for the others at some point.On an unrelated note, I'm making a start on a physical board. It turns out the local workshop has a limit for how many square centimeters you can cut on the laser cutter for personal projects each year and I've reached it in two weeks with only a third of the hexes I'll need (most of them have not been punched out of the wooden sprue yet and are thus not pictured)It might look a little rickety in the photo but that's because I need to sand all the edges and screw the frame to a backing so it will stay straight since it's in three sections (IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN TWO SECTIONS GODDAMIT)On a brighter note, the hexes take to spackle very well, which is good for basing. My plan is to paint the backing black so I can use it as pit tiles just by taking any terrain tile off, and then to have the rest be a mix of arid, jungle, and cave style tiles.
>>96532108It's late, and I forgot the picture. I think the ambrosia has worn off. I can feel my genes melting.
>>96532114My original plan was to make some of the hexes, make a small jig to test if they would fit with only a little sanding, and then make a big frame to hold them in map form. Unfortunately, I did not realize that I could cut out the remainder of the hexes I needed while making the big map until after the deed was done. I'll just have to use this big plate for something fun, like a location map of a canon-region like Errum or something.Finding another laser cutter will be a bit of a challenge to, but I'll manage. Worst comes to worst I can just order online from somewhere.
>>96529340>KILL englishmenU W0T M8?
>>96531328>is there anything Atlan represents besides that?Autarkia, jingoism and the pathos of being a hard man doing hard things because the world is hard on you. The strange amoral bent of (some, but more than you'd expect) Ancients who justified seemingly very evil things through (mostly) valid arguments (either Thrasymacus never made that argument, or he was trolling). >Like what's the civilian population like?A very large percentage of slaves, who for the most part are considered cattle. With the exception of rarely glimpsed gargoyles, grotesques, titanium olms and the highly sought after Amazon Slaves, you don't see Subhumans or Degenerated in an Atlan city (maybe in the shadiest ones), only Atlans, or rarely some Deepfolks from a vassal tribe. An adventuring party would probably not just stumble into one, they'd be invited as part of some negotiations, or captured and brought back, or would have to befriend an Iconodule they've met outside and somehow convinced him to smuggle them in. They probably wouldn't want to, Atlans are a dreary, taciturn and generally unpleasant people to be around, and unless they have some reason to, will be outwardly hostile if not aggressive toward any foreigner. Atlan women are ... "classically" beautiful (i.e, pretty by lower standards imo but that's me... ) but their character ruins any appeal they could have had (tsundere greek girls constantly asking you to die for the King is fairly niche, in an underworld otherwise filled with buxom cave babes) so the usual french (I'd say Latin, but whatever) incentive for contact doesn't apply. >How would a DM describe it?I assume it would be highly ordained and defensible, something like Tarragone or Split. I liked the idea of medieval metal brutalism, but if we go with Baroque it doesn't necessarily fit so much.
Btw if you're looking for a better british infantry model line that more accurately fits to the time period of Jules Verne would've suggested some of his philosophy, especially on totalitarianism and the fast speed of science, Team Miniatures has an entire platoon for second boer war khaki drill soldiers, including a scot.https://www.themilitaryworkshop.com/Team-Miniatures-BOER6010-British-Infantry-Covering-Head-Wound
>>96531971>Atlan anon hasn't done shit except mooch off other people's effort.Wtf. Unless someone else had exactly the same idea as he did, the Minos comparison last thread is his. I never asked anyone to only contribute by writing full lore, its obviously the easiest, if Atlan anon doesn't feel comfortable writing fiction that doesn't mean he isn't contributing. Whatever fault there is in the Atlan lore isn't his, it's mine for not focusing solely on it a year and a half ago, because it had nothing else to it except memes back then. Atlan anon was the only one who regularly playtested this game for the first year, he's got hundreds of hours invested in this. If you are in some disagreement over something, that's fine, we are building the lore through back and forth and it takes a lot of time and might create some friction on occasion, but dismissing his contribution isn't cool at all. Anyways.
>>96532431This must not be the same one I'm talking about because I remember the one that first did way back in the earliest threads just posting memes and not really doing anything of value other then shitposting. This must be a different guy.
>>96532434Initially Atlan *was* 100% memes, there was nothing else to it but "Part of Atlantis split off, they are mean, they like war a lot", that's it, sure. I'd argue that when you are at the phase of populating a world and generating its components its actually enough of a start, but of course, in comparison to how much meat there was on Atlantis, it looked very much like an joke. Whoever first incepted Atlan did not remain long, I believe. Atlan anon picked up the flambeau, what, 6 months later, and since there wasn't many folks around back then, and he dedicated himself to Atlan, so he quickly took the moniker. Most of the Atlan profiles are his, as well as a good section of the US, most Olms (if not all of them?), Lost Men, Whalurs and dozen others. More importantly, he followed through, playtested and improved on his designs over and over again. Anyways I guess this was a case of mistaken identity, but it still deserved to be said.
>>96532495>Most of the Atlan profiles are his, as well as a good section of the US, most Olms (if not all of them?), Lost Men, Whalurs and dozen others.Wait a second, I made those! Well, only the minor faction ones like Olms and such.You can when tell it's me because I always do>COMMENTARY:in all capitals. That, and the fact that most of my units are overcomplicated and unbalanced in the extreme because I haven't played since new year's day 2024.You called me "Based Profileanon" a year or so ago and that was very nice because no one has ever given me a name before.Would you like more units? I can make more. Or I can go back to whichever multi-page exploration of a one-sentence minor faction I'm thinking about right now. God, I love minor factions.
>>96532561>Wait a second, I made those! Well, only the minor faction ones like Olms and such.Ah! I knew I would get some of them wrong. > more unitsAny idea for fun cavalry mechanics we could slap on as traits for the Austrian Uhlan Captain? Right now I'm only coming up with picrel. Besides Satsuma being unfinished, the two main factions with the lowest counts of units, from memory, should be Ottomans and Duosicily, but they aren't really crying for more either. Otherwise its Characters (many faction could use a few more) or the Lost Men/La Ombre which could be worked on.> EthnicI've been thinking about a way to generalize the ethnic rule a bit, so that we could say have it exported to Satsuma/Imperial Japan & the USA (replacing the current factional rules). Basically, if you don't have a specific ratio of models with the various tags, you always go second. That simple of an effect. The rations would be set by the faction rule, and there could be a few, as long as it doesn't take too long to figure out. Obviously we haven't even tested the current ones but that's just an idea thrown out there.
>>96531716Fucking fun police.>it's your baby, I guess.Danes/North Sea Revanchists are actually my baby (as in, they litterly did not exist at all before me), and Whalurs are my favorite. The very first Atlan unit I posted was the Burdened Whalur, which i've come to think profoundly stupid, but whatever, at least it's profound. I probably could have and still could do more for Danes, but at the time i just really wanted to push it through, and worry about too much imposing and being ahistorical. I figure we'll see how well i do in Doggerland with them and go from there. Danes are the only guys I consider "mine", and you see how I treat them. >>96531971Retarded and dangerous mentally. Certified glass house moment.
>>96532373>Atlan women"The looks and personality of a statue; take that as you will", is my stance on that. This guy gets it >>4460524>tsundereKuudere.>>96531788I'm confused. Atlantis invented firearms independently, at least per the chart. Are you saying the reason they have them and Atlan doesn't is because Atlantis blocks trade to Atlan / Atlantis trades with colonials but Atlan doesn't? Atlantis couldn't block trade from Italians, Austrians, Germans, Ottomans, maybe not even the British, and not to mention smugglers and captured weapons. Also, although they don't have a gunpowder unit, they do have access to Magma Throwers through a Phosphorous rule, and Ottoman firearms through a Trait on Crystal Iconodule; that could all be changed, but that is how it is at present. It's also just much more in character and on theme for Atlan for it to be a material issue.>>96532953>if you don't have a specific ratio of models with the various tags, you always go second. That simple of an effectGenius. I wouldnt want to export Ethnic rules, but i am absolutely for simplifying them to that.
>>96534542>This guy gets iti didn't... >>>/p/4460524>>96531328To answer you're serious questions:>Like what's the civilian population like? / How would a DM describe it?Book Four and Five of Lord of The Rings. Third Age Gondor in general is not a bad place to look for inspiration. It isn't exactly a one-to-one copy, but take that feel and fuck the EQ, you have something close. The landscapes are the best part. The Emyn Muil, Dead Marshes, Ithilien, Osgiliath, Minas Tirith, the Paths of the Dead. I've said it before many a time, but the Byzantine Empire. You can imagine all the classical ruins, and the medieval architecture built over them. Anatolia, the area around the black sea, these are good places to look for landscapes. Hussite wars are a good place to look also.>>96532373>if we go with Baroque it doesn't necessarily fit so much.Baroque isn't the primary thing in my mind, it's a component. You're attached image's base is a baroque painting. Guess it's not as helpful a term as i thought, but it seems it doesn't matter because everyone has come to more or less the same conclusion.
>>96531870>They even have aquilunguisThese look great. This makes me want to learn 3D sculpting.
>>96534542>anon misses the pointI'm sure Britain and British South Africa totally wanted to open up trade and cordial relations with the zulu who wanted them dead or gone. Those boers over there who share cultural ties to europe and are actually hospitable to normal law-abiding people aren't worth dealing with. >first contact with Atlan vs AtlantisSecondly the idea that Atlan even has trade with outsiders is so much handwavium. The uber-maniots with a eldritch aspect to them allowing anyone to trade, especially morally dubious smugglers just proves this faction doesn't even have a consistent ethos or logic to it. And yes, it does make sense for them to be isolationist and abscond trade with outsiders, there's a historical precedent with Sparta (which has blatant influences here) the Tokugawa Shogunate, the Qing dynasty, the kingdom of Cambodia and Haijin of the Joseon dynasty. Cultural and societal precedent doesn't just dissapear because reasons. "On character" isn't even written in stone and the theme is so inconsistent anyone could effortpost and its entire "theme" could be changed within a thread or two. Either they're the uber-xenophobe isolationists who focus on martial might and the military while having a weird cult, or they're a wholly inconsistent mess that literally couldn't exist if you decoupled everything from Atlantis in its so far constructed fluff. Secondly I think Atlantis could actually. Even in the fluff stated in the docs and in the past threads it's established Atlantis came first in historical chronology. Which means every expansion, every new village, every new port and outpost was first done by a unified Atlantean people. This wouldn't be a recent thing, it would one over the course of centuries prior to the game's offical startdate. If anyone could control trade around their general borders and the borderlands, it'd be Atlantis and Ulm.
>>96536538*Mu not Ulm
>>96536549 >UlmNew faction? Secret Olm-city of the future in the 8th layer? It's canon now that's for sure.>>96532953>Thoroughbred (??? Silver)Double the statistics of this unit's mount. Then, apply one trait (random?) from the inbreeding table to this unit.The joke is that the mount and the rider are thoroughbreds. This has a potential for fuckery given the wide range of mount options. Don't worry about it.
>>96536538>"On character" isn't even written in stone and the theme is so inconsistent anyone could effortpost and its entire "theme" could be changed within a thread or twoDo it then.
Around or shortly after the Fall of Paris, a similar sinkhole opened up in the environs near Ulm.Too small to swallow more than a couple fields, seemingly unconnected to the rest of Agartha, and utterly useless for the purpose of establishing a foothold underground.Despite this, it did play a role in sparking German interest in Agartha. Initially used for scientific research (miraculous phenomena such as the INNER SUN can be observed within, strengthening the Agartha connection), it now mostly serves as a tourist destination for those interested in the underworld but unwilling to venture into Agartha proper.Discussions have been made about establishing an Agarthan zoo within the hole, but no serious efforts have materialized.
>>96538304Come to think of it, there are a lot of semi-entrances around, aren't there?Clearwater I think would be about as small as an entrance could be while still being worthwhile to explore, and even then it's like climbing a Tibetan mountain in reverse to traverse the damn thing.
>>96538392I imagine a lot of these could be converted into proper entrances via the appropriate esoteric digging techniques, but that would require the cooperation of groups like the Wall Priests or Lemurian Rockbreakers.
>>96538419New Mu Geomancers might would cooperate, for a reasonable fee, of course.
>>96534405I'm not here to be the fun police. I initially enjoyed the whole "wall this is war" thing during the initial round of worldbuilding, but if that's all you have after months of these threads then yes I'm going to criticize it.I am not telling you to remove what are obviously key parts of Atlan's ethos and theme, I'm telling you to dig deeper. Go further, explore everything there is to be explored with regards to Atlan.
>>96538439Ah, but could you trust them?The Atlans would never even be willing to hear the request, let alone accept it.The Rockbreakers could probably be convinced, but who would willingly invite Lemurians into their nation outside of India?Mu is right out, for all the obvious reasons, and if they make an offer you should definitely refuse it.Truly, the whole idea is folly.
>>96538419I'm not so certain. For example, the British entrance from the third layer to the fifth: Could they cut a hole to the fourth by going halfway down?I don't think it would go well. Geomancy does sound like your best bet to be certain.God help the Germans when they try to make an entrance manually and find the 2.5th layer or some such nonsense.Since we're on the topic of Atlan lore is there anything people want to see? Or stuff for any Agarthan faction. Except Lemuria because I don't think I can properly write out how their stuff works even if I can perfectly intuit the prophecy/cultivation omni-duality
>>96538482Stories like the Price of Pearls from way back when suggest that Atlan does engage in a modicum of trade with foreigners.What happens on the rare occasions when Atlan invites foreign nationals in, deals with them, and doesn’t summarily kill them?
>>96538123>>96538304>>96538482>shitposting lore out of spiteyou're not disproving the point of Atlan posters not being able to be taken seriously lmao
>>96538518Not spite, just riffing on the Ulm thing.Also I’m not really an Atlan guy.
>>96538518>See someone talking about how Atlan's lore is insufficiently deep>Ask what people want to see deepened>Get lmao'd atCome on man, what do you want from me.
>>96538518https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrAYxWPN6c
Could it be? The return of atlanfag? I thought he was lost forever...
>>96538500Fuck you in particular, I wanted to go to bed at a reasonable hour and you made me write lore until 2:00 am again.On the eastern border of Maximillia is an orchard, a farmhouse, and a sign. In a dozen languages it reads:>”GEHE NICHT WEITER”>”NE MENJ EL”>”OKRENI SE”>”ŚMIERĆ”And so on.Leaned against a fence in the orchard, five men watched the proceedings at the farmhouse. In the yard were two processions, one in angular plates and heavy helmets, the other in crisp white uniforms and feathered hats. There was a great deal of bowing from one side, the other stock-still. It was for the best, two of the watchers couldn’t imagine those heavy suits leaning even a little without toppling over.Presently, one of the group snickered. He was from east of the sign, wearing a sallet helmet with a long and slender rifle by his side. Resting against the fence was a large pavise, a little redundant considering the man’s breastplate, greaves, and gauntlets. Against the party by the farm he was practically naked, but compared with the surfacers he resembled nothing so much as an absinthe-dreamt knight of old.“What is he of findings so funny?” asked another one of the group, a Slavic tinge to his German.Catching the man’s intent, if not meaning, the spring-gunner replied. Another soldier of the Kaiser leaned in, scribbling in a notebook to catch the words.“Well, let me see… Aha!” He muttered, holding his cracked spectacles over the page.“What? What is it?” Asked the other.“The language, it’s different than the Greek we learned at Gymnasium. Did you know there’s Spanish in there? They seem to be using archaic Spanish for-”“Go! Speak faster!” the first tried to interrupt.“The Duque, that’s the one of the Spanish loanwords, well, he’s not really a Duke. They call him that, but I think he might be what we would call a Hauptmann. They shouldn’t be bowing to him.”“Why is he not speak of this?”
>>96538880“Would you complain if a whole welcoming committee was organized on your behalf?”The second thought for a moment, before laughing too. The spring-gunner reached over and grabbed the man’s forearm, placing an armoured palm over the soldier’s mouth and shaking his head.The first soldier took a panicky step back, grabbing at his rifle-sling.The other two men of Atlan, who had been lazily jabbing at apples with pikes until now, dropped their weapons and held up their hands, glancing over towards the procession. The spring-gunner released the second soldier backed away towards his comrades.One spoke, wearing a helmet with many holes and a chestplate with even more.The first soldier forgot his fear and scrambled for his dropped notebook as the Arkodamode continued speaking. He began to translate aloud.“Do not laugh, never laugh, laughing bad, very bad.”The second soldier recovered his composure, as a Slav in the Austrian army he understood what the Arkodamode meant.“What about him?” asked the second soldier, nodding to the Spring-gunner.“Stupid, or maybe they mean foolish? Stupid but quiet.” the first soldier translated.
>>96538885Things settled down again. The interminable ceremonies by the farm continued. Did the regimental band really have to play their entire repertoire for the visitors? They were an impromptu formation at best, and certain instruments are simply not meant to play together.The third Atlan, another Arkodamode, removed his helmet. The sound of the band seemed very distant and quiet now. The other two looked at each other, nodded, and removed theirs. Apples were more important than protection it seemed, for a moment at least.The spring gunner was lightly tanned, with fair and curly hair. A sculptor would have considered the man for a classical model, before discarding him because of the missing eye and constant sneer-leaning-smirk.The first Arkodamode, the one who spoke, looked like a Greek sailor the second soldier had shared drinks with in Dubrovnik, with a square beard and heavy tan. His face seemed more unchanging than his helmet.The second Arkodamode was a surprise to the surfacers, with dark straight hair and a reddish-brown hue of skin. His eyes were distant, focused on his Duke’s group.The spring-gunner was biting into his apple while the first Arkodamode slowly cut his into pieces. The second soldier spoke up.“Where of Atlan are you come? I am of Hrvatska.”The first soldier muddled and stuttered through a translation, repeating a few of the words to himself.The first Arkodamode responded solemnly without looking up as he continued to slice his fruit.“Panthalas.”“Atlan-tis!” sneered the spring-gunner, gesturing towards the first Arkodamode with his thumb before spitting on the ground. When the first Arkodamode raised his eyes the spring-gunner flinched, quickly apologizing in his native tongue.“But are they not war?” asked the second soldier.“Dohelos, Neodamode, Arkodamode” replied the Arkodamode, before handing his apple slices to the second Arkodamode.
>>96538890Before the second soldier could respond, the spring-gunner began to speak. He thumped his fist against his chest and smirked as he bragged.“He says that he is the son of an important man, and that he is a spring-gunner because of how they are honorable, respected, loved? There are a few translations.” The first soldier explained.The second Arkodamode cooly commented as he finished his slices, never looking away from the main Atlan force.“‘Bat-eater?’ What does ‘Bat-eater’ mean? And does ‘Olm-spine’ have a religious meaning?” rambled the first soldier.“What of you?” asked the second soldier to the second Arkodamode.The response came calmly but distantly.“He says it was ‘this or the mines’, and that ‘the mines were the path of wisdom’. He says his family have been miners for a very long time.” Answered the first soldier.There was quiet again by the fence in the orchard as the band struck up by the barn. The Atlan soldiers did not ask any questions of the surfacers.
>>96538899The first soldier began to speak this time, stumbling over himself as he flipped through his notebook to search for words.“What are you of saying?” asked the second.“I told them of my home in the city, of our many books and our new electrical lights.”“They do not seem for being impressed.” chuckled the second soldier.“Tell them of my mountains, of old fortresses by my sea and my tile-brick roof.” he continued.“Your tiled roof?” asked the first soldier.“It being very expensive” replied the second.The translation commenced again. This time, even the second Arkodamode glanced over.Each soldier responded in turn, the second Arkodamode went first.“Mountains are good. Holy, safe.” piped the first soldier.“Their gunner wants to know how expensive the tiles were.” he translated.The first Arkodamode did not speak. He held his helmet in his hands, looking into the many holes of the faceplate. He turned around and placed it back on, and would not face the group again.The spring-gunner grinned cruelly at the Austrians.“Panthalas.” stated the second Arkodamode.“Fortresses by my sea.” whispered the first. The saltwater of Atlantis ran down his cheeks.
>>96538880>On the eastern border of Maximillia is an orchard, a farmhouse, and a signNow I want to hear the story of the farmer that went and set up his farm at the very edge of the forbidden territory. As in, someone told him that crossing the line would mean almost certain death, and possibly war, and he just put up some "Do not enter" signs and just made sure to build everything on his side of the border.
>>96538880>“Atlan-tis!” sneered the spring-gunner, gesturing towards the first Arkodamode with his thumb before spitting on the groundI like the implication that -tis has become an a sort of insult suffix. You did a really great job. Landed everything.>>96539977In some way or another, he's probably the cause of all this.
Continuing to figure out the Atlan's aesthetic, I've made this, trying to combine Alphonse Mucha's "Byzantine Heads" look for the noble women of Atlan, while also trying to mix weird helmets with medieval plated armor and puffy sleeves. Maybe a bit slender for heavy armor atlan, though...Also, a bit of a heads up. I'm not going to be able to make much art (or participate much in the threads for that matter) for about a week or two. Work is becoming worse by the day, and until it becomes manageable again, I need the extra time. If anyone has any idea for an edit, please post it and I'll try to get to it eventually.
I like the idea that, beneath the warlike and argumentative surface, Atlan’s culture is possessed of a deep melancholy. Their history is largely defined transgressions against them, vengeance for those transgressions, and either bitterness or grief over the things they lost in the process.Not the sort of thing they typically share with outsiders, being a people of stiff upper lips, but something expressed in the quiet moments when there is time for contemplation.
Very nearly ready to upload the game on the TTS workshop, anyone wants to suggest art for the background? There's too many good ones for me to pick a favorite.
>>96540147I like the idea of an underworld chivalric romance interacting with European industrial expeditions and big game hunters.>Atlan knight, riding an iguanodon>runs into British hunter and his batsman>Atlan knight does battle with a Megalosaurus that the big game hunter had been stalking>despite the Atlan stealing the hunter's kill, the hunter is impressed and the two strike up an odd friendship while both are on their quest/safari respectively>mystery of the short story is the nature of the Atlan knight's quest
>>96543797I wouldn't be surprised if the SACRED WALL is either a new invention of the titking or something previously relegated to the depths of the wall church. Regular Atlan units seem more tired than fanatical, it's only when you get to Immortals and up where the ALL CAPS titanium mind poisoning kicks in. I guess the titking only needed to purge or convert the upper ranks when he took over, or maybe they were always like that to some level.
>>96543617Something like this. Maybe not this exactly, but I think "Eiffel Tower and Paris underground" is the best way to summarize the setting.
>>96544963To add, there should probably be a military aspect, so maybe an image of French soldiers parading in France with the Eiffel Tower in the background.
>>96543617I agree that >>96544963 is probably the best option. Though we could fix the smudge right next to the eiffel tower.
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